107. Mario Lopez: Daily Routine for Success in Hollywood and Health

Speaker 1 Can a person really live comfortably to like 110, 115? 120 to 140? No question. Yes.
Are you serious? 80 is about to be the new 40.

Speaker 1 We know now so much about cellular physiology and human biology that within the next five years, it will be our choice whether or not we want to live to age 120 or 140 or we want to take the opposite route.

Speaker 1 Wow. That's amazing.
As I've gotten older, one of the things I always say is that I always train for sanity, not so much vanity. And the activities that I'm involved in, jujitsu and boxing.

Speaker 1 However, the body doesn't respond the way it used to or the way I like it to. Being in chronic pain, it's an awful, awful feeling.
Chronic pain will wear down the strongest of human beings.

Speaker 1 That's the thing, it's relentless. What's incredibly powerful is the big data is starting to show that things like exercise are more powerful than SSRIs.

Speaker 1 Talk a little bit about what your routine does for your mental health. I think the real answer, not to be corny or anything, but

Speaker 1 ultimate human.

Speaker 1 Welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. Today, we are joined by a true icon in the entertainment world who's graced our screens for decades.

Speaker 1 But beyond his incredible career as an actor, host, and producer, he's a dedicated advocate for health and wellness.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about a little scare that he had very, very early in life and how that may have impacted his current fitness journey. Mario Lopez has truly made wellness a priority in his life.

Speaker 1 And today, he's here to share with us some of his insights on how to stay fit, healthy, and mentally strong while balancing a thriving career and family life.

Speaker 1 Mario, welcome to the Ultimate Human podcast. Thank you, Brecka.
You're so serious. I love it.

Speaker 1 That was like so, that was so serious. That was your 60 Minutes voice right there.
Okay. I know.
I do have a radio voice. You know what it is? It's the microphones and like the studio.
Crazy intimacy.

Speaker 1 I feel a need to like just lower my voice and

Speaker 1 talk right into the world.

Speaker 1 How you doing, brother? I'm doing well. Nice to see you.
Good to see you again, too, man. You and I have had a great journey together, man.
We have.

Speaker 1 I love how we initially met through our mutual friend, Dana White,

Speaker 1 who, as you know, speaks incredibly high of you and

Speaker 1 was anxious for us to meet. He was.

Speaker 1 Because like you said in your intro, health and fitness is a top priority. In my life, I always say, if you don't take care of your health without that, nothing else really matters.

Speaker 1 And you think a lot of other stuff is important until something happens health-wise. And then you realize what really is important.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, even since we started our journey, you know, you had a little bit of a health scare on our journey. I mean,

Speaker 1 you and I were going to shoot an episode of Access Hollywood. Oh, with my neck.
That's right.

Speaker 1 I was like, what health scares you talk about.

Speaker 1 What health scares you talk about.

Speaker 1 That's right. We're just going to throw it out there.
I did. Well, yeah, that's an injury.

Speaker 1 No, you FaceTimed me in a neck brace. And I was like, bro, what's up? Yeah, that's, well, that's the thing too and um I mean I could turn this into a therapy hour, but you know as I

Speaker 1 as I did in the lights as I've gotten older and I think we've talked about this before

Speaker 1 one of the things I always say is that I always train and work out for sanity not so much vanity. It's like a de-stressor.
You get rid of any sort of anxiety.

Speaker 1 I like to get it out of the way in the first thing in the morning. So the rest of my day is sort of easy and it just allows me to kind of just be alone with my thoughts and you just feel good.

Speaker 1 You get the endorphins going. You just feel good right off the bat.
right?

Speaker 1 And the activities that I'm involved in, um,

Speaker 1 usually are that of a much younger man, you know, which is uh

Speaker 1 trying to get me to talk you out right now. So she's quietly like, can you talk some rest of everyone in my world?

Speaker 1 But like jiu-jitsu and boxing and, you know, very physical, violent activities, even though I liken it to like physical chess, it takes a toll on your body.

Speaker 1 And I really do it. It's, I'm sparring out there and I'm not just kind of hitting pads.
And so I, and I, and I like it and I, I love it. One, again, it's like physical chest.

Speaker 1 You're constantly problem solving. But two, it makes me feel alive.

Speaker 1 And you're problem solving under stress, which I think is a metaphor for life. Exactly.
And exactly. And it makes me feel alive and it makes me feel young.

Speaker 1 However, the flip side to that is that the body doesn't respond the way it used to or the way I like it to. Right.
So I've had to make adjustments on how I approach it and how

Speaker 1 I go about my physical activities, or else I won't last and

Speaker 1 I'll start falling apart. Remember the movie, the Blues Brothers? Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm dating myself now. Remember how that car, the car that they were driving

Speaker 1 was in the best chase, like one of the greatest car chases of all time. And then when it finally parked, it just boom.
Yeah. It collapsed.
That's like my body.

Speaker 1 Like in this last year, I've been going a thousand miles an hour. And then one year after another, I tore my rotator cuff, I tore my Achilles, I tore my biceps.
Wow. All in jiu-jitsu.

Speaker 1 Took my hand, boxing.

Speaker 1 And then in jiu-jitsu, my first serious injury from what you're full circle to what you were talking about, I had a pinched nerve, which doesn't sound bad, but when it was right under the neck of the disc, it was the most

Speaker 1 excruciating pain. And it shot down my arm and I had like this tingling and it made this finger and pinky go numb.

Speaker 1 It's about 95% gone, but still a little, you know, a little bit, it's about 95, but that's because I still do the activities.

Speaker 1 And so it wasn't something you just work on through massage and what have you. We started to treat it and do some stuff.
Then I had to start getting shots and all that.

Speaker 1 And you do have to lay off, which is hard for me, but the best know when to rest. So you got to do that.
So it's more, and that did a number on me kind of psychologically, too.

Speaker 1 So I remember, man, I remember when you told me, you called me and you told me you had to cancel the show. You were supposed to be in Orlando.
I was coming up there to meet you to do the show.

Speaker 1 I mean, being in pain and chronic pain,

Speaker 1 and it just doesn't let up, it's an awful, awful feeling.

Speaker 1 And chronic pain, your mind just, oh, yeah, it will wear down the strongest of of of human beings i mean i i i've watched it break family members of mine i mean low back pain neck pain and neck pain and low back pain especially because you just can't get away from it right right it's relentless yeah it's relentless thing it's relentless and you were getting the cortisone injections and i remember i sent you some turmerics and i sent you the hydrogen bath right yeah i was like dude i'm gonna overnight use some stuff to to to try to accelerate this healing process as much as we could we we use some peptides bpc157 which is a body protection compound 157 it's a it's a

Speaker 1 technically a gastric peptide, but it's really, really good for wound healing.

Speaker 1 And you eventually were able to walk your way out of it. I mean, you say you're 95% now.
Yeah, I'm back. You still do feel it, though.

Speaker 1 Thank God. I mean, if I'm being very meticulous, yeah, just a little bit.
And maybe because of the

Speaker 1 same movements and the wear and tear, I'm very cognizant now of the positions that put me in because I'm a grappler, and so it was a lot of the shooting and messing with these big guys.

Speaker 1 And the thing about jiu-jitsu is the size is really supposed to be sort of irrelevant when it comes to the technique, but size does matter. That's why there's way classes.
So I have to, I manage the

Speaker 1 expectations with the way I approach, and I had to change my game a little bit.

Speaker 1 But it's okay. And so it's just like in life, you have to evolve, you have to adapt.
And that's what I've been doing. But it's sort of hard to get your mind around it.

Speaker 1 And listen, I'm going to be 51 in a couple of weeks. I can't believe that, dude.

Speaker 1 I should be, I'm 54. I turned 54 on Saturday.
Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 But you look 25, and I mean, I might look 48. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 No, I feel lucky, man. And people ask me, I mean, there's no, I know.

Speaker 1 You came up to me at the UFC and you were like, brother,

Speaker 1 would love to work with you. I'm like, dude, I want to know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 Well, people ask me, I just, you know, I usually just kind of answer with, you know, I drink a lot of tequila. It's like embalming fluid.
But I think the, I mean, I think the real answer.

Speaker 1 I'm going to cut that from the official record.

Speaker 1 I think the real answer,

Speaker 1 not to be. corny or anything, but I mean, I really am like a genuinely, like, I think a happy person.
And I feel, I know I'm very blessed and I don't take it for granted.

Speaker 1 And I've got my mom and dad still with me who are very much still still together. I got a great wife and kids.
And

Speaker 1 I'm happy.

Speaker 1 And I think being happy has a lot to

Speaker 1 kind of do with it. And obviously I'm not, look, I like to have a good time, but I'm not partying with crazy, you know, extracurricular.
Yeah, you're in the party capital world out here in L.A., too.

Speaker 1 So you have plenty of occasion to do that. So, you know, I'm not

Speaker 1 burning the candle to both ends

Speaker 1 in that sense. But, you know, I do like to have a good time.
I do like my tequila. I do like to have a good cigar here and there.
Well, I think it's, you know, it's the 80-20 rule.

Speaker 1 My daughter talks about it all the time. You know, she's 26 years old and she spends 80% of her time like really, really taking care of herself.

Speaker 1 And 20% of her time, she acts like a 26-year-old should act.

Speaker 1 You got to have balance. Yeah, you got to have balance.
I think when the pendulum swings too far in one direction,

Speaker 1 then you end up quitting. And, you know, that's a lot of the clients that I work with.
I'm like, look, the secret here is not that you go. hardcore dogmatic in one direction.

Speaker 1 It's not like keto, paleo, carnivore, you know, pescatarian, vegan, vegetarian. It's, you know, start with a whole food diet um

Speaker 1 and you cannot supplement your way around a poor diet if you're not eating whole foods if you're if you're eating like you know a highly processed diet you're eating a lot of high glycemic sugars you know if you're eating a lot of food dyes pesticides herbicides insecticides preservatives glyphosates you know eventually you're just bathing your cellular biology in a toxic soup.

Speaker 1 It's sort of irrelevant. You can't outwork a bad diet, right? And what are your thoughts on

Speaker 1 intermittent fasting? So I'm a big fan of intermittent fasting, sort of right

Speaker 1 for the right profile, right? It's again, intermittent fasting is one of those things that can be a complete life-changing game-changer, or it can be a worst nightmare.

Speaker 1 And when I say it's a worst nightmare, especially for early menstruating females, we're sort of flipping the script here now I'm on your podcast, but that's okay.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 We're not supposed to be interviewing you, but no, but no, but I asked because it seems like,

Speaker 1 did I try it for a day?

Speaker 1 As active as I am, I was concerned about the energy level. Well, so, so in your case, you actually have the polar opposite issue that most people have.

Speaker 1 You actually have very good blood sugar regulation, right? So

Speaker 1 when you are highly insulin sensitive, not insulin resistant, when you're insulin sensitive, that means that your body actually reacts very well and controls your blood sugar very well.

Speaker 1 You measure this with something called hemoglobin A1C. It's the three-month average of your blood sugar.
And you look at that compared to your insulin levels.

Speaker 1 You know, if you're in the low single digits for insulin,

Speaker 1 then this means that your insulin is is reacting very quickly. So in other words, when you go prolonged periods without eating, i.e.
intermittent fasting, you get hypoglycemic.

Speaker 1 You get low blood sugar, which actually robs you of your energy. And your pituitary, which is sort of the master puppeteer, it's regulating all of our,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 and women, it regulates

Speaker 1 their menstrual cycle.

Speaker 1 And men, you know, it regulates the amount of testosterone that we secrete, amongst a ton of other things, growth hormone, our sleep cycle, our circadian rhythms, our body temperature, our metabolic rate.

Speaker 1 But the pituitary is there to save your life. It really doesn't care how fat or skinny you are, how pretty or ugly you are.
It doesn't care about your hair, your skin, and nails.

Speaker 1 It cares about survival.

Speaker 1 And so, what happens is when you go prolonged periods with really, really low blood sugar, the pituitary perceives this as starvation and it begins to throttle back your metabolism.

Speaker 1 It has the opposite effect of what you want, starts to actually slow you down. in an effort to save your life.

Speaker 1 If you think ancestrally, if we went prolonged periods without food, then energy conservation was a priority, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, if there was, if food was in abundance, well, then we wouldn't be so worried about energy conservation. But we, we didn't

Speaker 1 evolve with a cabinet of crackers three feet off of our elbow, right? I mean, we didn't eat 24 hours a day, even have access to food 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Speaker 1 We regulate everything now: our body temperature, our lighting,

Speaker 1 you know, the amount of food that we eat. So, most of us, most Americans are eating

Speaker 1 11 to 17 hours a day. And it's hard to imagine, but most people, the first thing they do when I get out of bed is, you know, coffee, something goes in their mouth.

Speaker 1 And right before they go to bed, something else goes in their mouth. And so.
So that's, I'm sorry to interrupt.

Speaker 1 But so that's okay to have something go in your mouth right before you can go to bed because the old adage used to be that try not to eat, right? Right before you go to bed, but that's a fallacy.

Speaker 1 Well, I would say try not to eat a big meal within two hours of going to bed. You know, I would take something like a perfect amino, a non-caloric

Speaker 1 full spectrum, Yeah, full spectrum amino acid. The last thing you want to do is stuff yourself and go to sleep.
It feels good, though.

Speaker 1 You know when you stuff yourself, you just lay down and then you cause it.

Speaker 1 It feels so good. Yeah, but then when you look at your sleeping.
No, I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 It's like the two glasses or four glasses of wine before bed.

Speaker 1 Do you know what? Who's counted a bottle?

Speaker 1 Everyone listening to this podcast. Really?

Speaker 1 Everybody that says they have a glass of wine before they go to bed is absolutely lying.

Speaker 1 Having a bottle of wine before before they go to bed. I forgot that you mentioned wine.
So my ADD keeps kicking in. So my wife and I recently, we, I, yeah, I don't think we finished the topic so far.

Speaker 1 Do we even do that?

Speaker 1 We've got like six open ones in the back. We both are in the middle of the day.
People listening to this are like, you guys have seriously completed coherent thoughts.

Speaker 1 I think we are. I think we are.
It's a conversation. It's like two politicians just avoiding our own questions.

Speaker 1 The thing about wine, like I enjoy wine. Why is it? And I don't assume it's really cheap wine because it doesn't seem to be.

Speaker 1 But why is it I'll have a couple and I still wake up up a little sort of groggy as opposed to if I have some nice tequila or something, I'm fine. It helps me go to bed.

Speaker 1 So now I'm almost, it's almost, I'm deterred to have it, unless I know I can sleep in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So three things with, you know, alcohol, and then I'll be specific to red wine, but I mean, you know, alcohol, it's not really the alcohol, it's what the alcohol becomes, right?

Speaker 1 Alcohol becomes something called acetylaldehyde. So the liver converts it into this compound called acetylaldehyde, which is a very acidic compound, highly acidic compound.

Speaker 1 So it actually lowers, slightly lowers the pH of the blood. Now, the pH range of the blood is very narrow, right? It's about half of half of a point.

Speaker 1 And so as we get more acidic, lower in pH,

Speaker 1 this is what gives us headaches. It interrupts our cellular metabolism, doesn't allow us to get into deep sleep or even REM sleep for that matter.

Speaker 1 And so what happens is in deep sleep, like, first of all,

Speaker 1 let's just put sleep on the proper platform. It is the human superpower.
It really is. I always say human superpower.
It's incredibly underrated, right?

Speaker 1 These people that always say, well, our friend always, our Dana, as a matter matter of fact, because I was just having a conversation with him the other day.

Speaker 1 He tells me he only sleeps like three, four hours a night. I go, How do you do that, bro? He's still training everything.
Trying to push him to five, six hours a night.

Speaker 1 But one thing about Dana is if you look at his sleep routine, like he lays down and in three to five minutes, he's boom, he is in he is in deep sleep.

Speaker 1 And he, you know, he was on a CPAP machine when I first started to work with him. He's not on the CPAP machine any longer.
Um, and his, and his sleep scores are actually pretty good.

Speaker 1 But, you know, sleep is the human superpower.

Speaker 1 And, but people don't realize, you know, why is sleep our human superpower i understand that i'm resting and i'm you know i'm calm and you know my mind is relaxed but but what's physiologically going on during sleep well during deep sleep something really really special starts to happen the there's a there is a waste elimination system in the brain called the glymphatic system.

Speaker 1 We know our lymph system, right? Our lymph nodes, our lymphatic system. You know, your lymph nodes get swollen in your neck or they get swollen in your upper axillary region when you get sick.

Speaker 1 So our lymph nodes and our lymph system detoxifies and eliminates waste from the body. And by waste, I don't mean stool and urine.
I mean cellular waste.

Speaker 1 And the glymphatic system is in the brain. So when the brain is eliminating waste, repairing, detoxifying, regenerating, this happens during deep sleep.
When deep sleep

Speaker 1 occurs, it activates the glymphatic system. So your brain flushes toxins.
Well, if you don't get into deep sleep, you never flush those toxins. You never actually use that glymphatic drainage system.

Speaker 1 So people wake up foggy, drowsy, groggy. The other thing it's doing, besides from lowering your, the pH of your blood, is it's actually causing your blood sugar to rise.

Speaker 1 So you think about what, you know, what does wine become? Two, three glasses of wine become after it gets metabolized. It becomes sugar.
So now you're, it helps you fall asleep.

Speaker 1 Alcohol is initially a stimulant, then a suppressant, but it helps you fall asleep. And then as you're sleeping, your blood sugar is starting to rise.

Speaker 1 As your blood sugar is starting to rise, your pH of your blood is dropping. As the pH of your blood is dropping, you're not going into deep sleep.

Speaker 1 As you're not going into deep sleep, you're not eliminating waste, repairing, detoxifying. That makes perfect sense.
May I ask a question?

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on naps? I'm a big fan.

Speaker 1 Huge fan of naps. But does it, does it suffice for, let's say, you get six hours sleep, but you take maybe an hour nap during the day.
It's still not as good as seven hours contemporary.

Speaker 1 It's not as good, but the research on napping, believe it or not, is really starting to validate that, you know, no less than 20 minutes, no more than 90 minutes, right? No more than 90.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's a good rule. No less than 20, no more than 90.
No less than 20, no more than 90. There's something that they call sleep inertia, right?

Speaker 1 So after 90 minutes,

Speaker 1 sleep has now taken over and is the priority. It's like a tu-choo train going down the track.
You know what I mean? You know, a parked locomotive can be stopped by putting a quarter under the tire.

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Speaker 1 So you don't want that sleep inertia to start carrying you into the REM and the deep and the deep. So just enough to

Speaker 1 20 minutes minimum, 90 minutes maximum. Absolute game changer.
I don't want to quote the statistics, but

Speaker 1 there is a significant high double digit reduction in all cause mortality in people that regularly nap. Wow.
So

Speaker 1 an active individual for myself, I mean, I should strive for eight at least, correct? You should strive for eight.

Speaker 1 But you know what's what's really interesting is, you know, now that we're really, really getting data on sleep,

Speaker 1 not everybody needs eight hours of sleep. So it really is based on the individual.
It is, really is based on the individual. And

Speaker 1 what you should do is begin to develop a

Speaker 1 measure your sleep, aura, whoop, you know, Fitbit, eight sleep mattress.

Speaker 1 Find a way to measure and track your sleep because the things that are really affecting your sleep are probably not the things that you think. Really? Yes.

Speaker 1 Because I have, fortunately, now, no problem falling asleep and I'll go to sleep.

Speaker 1 sleep the thing is staying there do you have to get up to go to the restroom if i'm actually just trying to face the camera i realize that no no no no i'm not over there no no i meant do you have to get up to go to the restroom at all

Speaker 1 not not right now not right now when you're asleep because like i can't full disclosure i can't make a whole night now i'm fidgety so

Speaker 1 no no not like i just have adhd and i i don't have to piss no i meant i can't make it through a whole night now i have to at least get up once is that just an age getting up once is is is perfectly normal okay that's getting up three to five times which a lot of people do Rip it no way.

Speaker 1 People get up three to five times.

Speaker 1 There's so many people listening to me. Get out of here.
You get up three to five. How do you have a sleep? You get out of here three to five times.
Because they're pissing all night.

Speaker 1 Wait, is it the fluid intake or is it just it's it's the it's the food and fluid intake, right? I mean, you're eating and drinking right up until the time that you go to bed. Yeah.
So all that.

Speaker 1 No, I'm a one-timer. That's fine.
That's okay. I'm a one-timer.
And I got it master tour. I barely open my eyes like Yoda.

Speaker 1 And I just kind of like go and put my hand in there, you know, go do what I got to do. And then go back.
And so then I'm good to go. That's fine then.
I do the same thing.

Speaker 1 And then always deny like being on the seat. And then my wife is like, No, it was you.

Speaker 1 And then lately, I've been taking this methylene blue, um, which is a it's actually a blue fabric dye, but there's a lot of science around methylene blue.

Speaker 1 I don't want to go down that rabbit hole, but it actually turns your urine blue.

Speaker 1 So now every time I dribble on the seat, there's no way for me to like get away with it because my wife doesn't take it. Yeah, yeah, she's like, Well, what are the blue drops on the seat?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I don't know, that's a coincidence. Wow, that's weird.
They weren't there when I went to sleep. That's a point.
It's a cool party trick. You want to see me pee blue? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Methylene blue, by the way. Amazing, you know, amazing compound.
I mean, it's, it's, it's, uh, uh, I mean, the implications for this in health and longevity are just tremendous.

Speaker 1 It's probably one of the least expensive, if not the least expensive, supplement I've ever encountered. I'm going to jot that down.
Yeah, methylene blue, which actually

Speaker 1 what it does, you know,

Speaker 1 without getting too deep down the science rabbit hole is it actually changes the state of iron inside the cell from a ferric state to a ferrous state and pulls oxygen out of the blood into the red blood cell where it's bioavailable for our mitochondria to use as energy.

Speaker 1 And remember, if the mitochondria, if the powerhouse of the cell gets oxygen, it's 16 times more efficient.

Speaker 1 It creates 16 times more energy for every revolution of this little cycle called the Krebs cycle.

Speaker 1 So if you really want to stimulate your cellular biology, you've got to get oxygen into the cell and into the mitochondria. And methylene blue helps do that.
So last question about sleep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is it me or does it seem like as you get older, you need less of it? This is true. As you get older, you need less of it.
I mean, it's interesting. I was talking to

Speaker 1 some folks on RFK's team and some of my other.

Speaker 1 He's in great shape, by the way. He's in great shape.
He's in great shape. Yeah.
And I love his philosophy on the food supply and

Speaker 1 the research going into our nutritional research. And, you know, I just, I'm really on message with him about what he wants to do at a governmental level, you know, to improve our food supply and

Speaker 1 to fix the pandemic of chronic illness, not just in this country, in the adult population, but also in the population, children.

Speaker 1 We have the sickest generation of young children we've ever had in this country. Again, a total other topic, but you know, we're

Speaker 1 covering a lot of two guys with ADHD.

Speaker 1 So I want to circle back to your health. You know, this is about Mario Lopez.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Your question.

Speaker 1 But I want to talk about for you because

Speaker 1 I love to kind of back my listeners into a corner and say, you know, what's your excuse? Because clearly you have a very busy schedule and you don't dictate your schedule.

Speaker 1 You don't have, you know, you have to be certain places at certain times, access Hollywood. Exactly right.

Speaker 1 So what's a typical day for Mario Lopez look like? Like walk me through, you know, you wake up in the morning, you take the supplements that I've got you on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I wake up, you know, around six,

Speaker 1 sometimes earlier if I need to, and

Speaker 1 get get the kids all ready, kiss them off to go to school. And then I go, and then I go to train to get it out of the way.
Yeah. Like I said, it's either boxing or jiu-jitsu,

Speaker 1 which I do two, three times a week, each one. And then one day.
Just like down the street from your house?

Speaker 1 In the neighborhood on the way to work and another one, again, not too far from work. So it's pretty geographically convenient.
So I'll do something like that.

Speaker 1 Then usually on the Wednesday, I'll take a break. I'll do that Monday, Tuesday.
Wednesday, I'll take a break and do a little,

Speaker 1 not rehab, but just kind of, I'll go, I'll make myself go see my PT guy sometime, right? And uh, stretch and kind of get something to worked on because I'm usually banged up.

Speaker 1 Then on the weekend, um, depending on my body, I'll listen to my body, how it feels, and I'll train either a little bit harder.

Speaker 1 And then one other day, I'll go do a spin class with the wife or something, right? Just to kind of mix it up. But I do try to do something every day, to be honest, unless I'm traveling.

Speaker 1 When I'm traveling, I take the time off. But again, I do it just to feel awake.
I don't feel like I woke up unless I did something and to kind of clear my head.

Speaker 1 And, you know, there's a lot of stress going on with the stuff I'm juggling. So it just kind of helps me check out for a second.
So I get up at six, I get that out of the way. Then after that,

Speaker 1 I'll come get something to eat. I'm making calls on the way.
I'll come do my radio show. I have a nationally syndicated radio show called On with Mario.
We're in the room. My heart.

Speaker 1 In the room right now. We're in the moon right now.
We're in the room right now. On with Mario Lopez.
There we go.

Speaker 1 So that's a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 So we do that. So I go, so I come and I'll do that.
Then from there, I'll go down the hill because it's all here at Universal Studios.

Speaker 1 And I do Access Hollywood, the first show, which is the nighttime show. Right.

Speaker 1 Immediately after that, I got about a half hour break to kind of get prepped and prepare for the daytime show, Access Daily, which you've been a guest on a lot now.

Speaker 1 And that's sort of our Reaches and Kelly type show and lifestyle, pop culture, and all that. And we have guests.
And so then that takes me through the afternoon.

Speaker 1 Then after that, I usually either have...

Speaker 1 If it's not another gig, because at some point I was either doing another TV show or I squeezed in a holiday movie or I was doing something else.

Speaker 1 I squeezed in a holiday movie just throwing that out there so i'll you know i'll do i do a podcast that i do once a week called the three knockdown rule of fought fight podcast or i'll have meetings um

Speaker 1 or different stuff uh in in my um

Speaker 1 that i've got on deck to uh what producing and what have you yeah so it's pretty much 100 miles and running from the time i get up to when i'm wrapping it up which could be about from four to six but then after that i'm dad for a little bit i'll either got a jiu-jitsu or wrestling practice or my sister my daughter's cheer, and then I'm home in time.

Speaker 1 Or your kids are in jiu-jitsu and wrestling. Yeah, my boys.
My boys are too. Yeah.
That's awesome. So we got, no, I got them, you know, and I want them to learn.

Speaker 1 And again, I think just builds a lot of character and

Speaker 1 helps their confidence and a lot of attributes

Speaker 1 for, you know, as a young man growing up. So then after that, I'll have dinner with them, unless I have a dinner meeting, and then maybe watch TV.
I try to at least watch TV for about an hour.

Speaker 1 Just to calm the mind. Just to calm the mind and then go to sleep, do it all over again.
Yeah. No, that's great, man.
And, you know, there's

Speaker 1 a pandemic of what we,

Speaker 1 I think, is improperly phrased as mental illness in this country right now.

Speaker 1 And what's what's incredibly powerful is the big data is starting to show that things like exercise are more powerful than SSRIs.

Speaker 1 than these selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, than the actual chemicals and the synthetics and pharmaceuticals that we use to quote unquote improve our mental health.

Speaker 1 28% or 38% reduction in all-cause mortality by exercising on a right regular basis, 28% reduction in cardiovascular risk. But talk a little bit about

Speaker 1 what does your routine do for your mental health? It makes all the difference in the world.

Speaker 1 That's why I try to do it in the morning and get it out of the way because,

Speaker 1 again, any stress or any sort of issue I'm dealing with or things I'm juggling or worried about schedule and and all that helps me kind of clear my head and I have to focus on whatever it is I'm doing.

Speaker 1 And in the activities that I'm doing, I'm either going to get choked out or knocked out. So I got to really get

Speaker 1 yeah. So I got to really focus and allows me to kind of escape.
And then after that, after you've been choked out, your days, nothing's going to get harder than that. Yeah.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So you're a purple bell, right? A purple belt won't strap away from a brown. And I always tell them, I want to take the hard road.
I don't want any sort of gimme.

Speaker 1 And I'm proud to say that, you know, I feel pretty confident that they've been hard on me and, you know, I've earned it. Yeah.
So, but it does. It

Speaker 1 helps me with anything that I don't really get bothered by anything after that.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I'm a huge fan of jiu-jitsu. I don't practice it myself, but I work with a lot of fighters.

Speaker 1 And I find some of the most composed people that I've ever met are people that regularly and intensely either practice yoga or jiu-jitsu. And I think it's going back to that,

Speaker 1 you know, being calm under stress, right? Having to actually

Speaker 1 think under stress, right? Because

Speaker 1 there is always in your mind that you could get hurt. You're exactly.
You have to be comfortable being uncomfortable. Yes.

Speaker 1 And I think that is such a metaphor for life, you know, like when you're holding certain really intense yoga poses and you're trying to just focus on your breath.

Speaker 1 when your thighs feel like they're going to peel off the bone.

Speaker 1 And for you. Wow, that's a serious yoga class you got.
Yeah, dude, you ever do a candlestick pose and try to hold that while you're breathing? I'm candlestick with the little

Speaker 1 kids feel the bone move, though. That's what's Next level,

Speaker 1 you don't have a good yoga voice.

Speaker 1 You know, you walk in and I'm like, all these chicks are in the candle post. And I'm like, you guys look actually comfortable in this thing.
And I squat down and I'm like, I'm dying.

Speaker 1 You go, you're intense like me. You go all the way.

Speaker 1 I do. I go all the way, man.

Speaker 1 Nothing makes me sweat like yoga does. But I'm just such a fan of

Speaker 1 jiu-jitsu and the martial arts because I think people think of it as just teaching you to be violent, but it actually teaches you the polar opposite, teaches you the the calm. Exactly.

Speaker 1 And I remember seeing an interview with Dana White one time, and I forget who he's being interviewed by, but they said, if you could just pick one word on what makes the difference between a good fighter and a great fighter, what would it be?

Speaker 1 And he said, composure.

Speaker 1 And that's exactly what you're getting out of the Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Absolutely.
Is learning to be composed. You're exactly right.

Speaker 1 And I think it complements every aspect of my life when I have to give a speech, if I'm hosting something, if I don't get nervous. Like I just just, well, maybe I've been doing this a long time too.

Speaker 1 But at the same time, I think that does help being growing up wrestling, boxing, and doing jiu-jitsu and all that. I think it does.

Speaker 1 It doesn't, though, that atmosphere and being in those sort of, you're completely vulnerable there, right? In the sense that there's no team, it's all you.

Speaker 1 You have to rely on yourself and you got to figure it out. And I think once you start getting comfortable and being able to do that, the rest of life is sort of easy in what, in what's thrown at you.

Speaker 1 So I don't really get too excited about too many things.

Speaker 1 My attitude's like, I'll figure it out. Yeah.
No, that's great, man. I mean, where do you find like the daily motivation to keep doing it? Because

Speaker 1 I think that so many people

Speaker 1 with careers that are maybe not as demanding as yours

Speaker 1 will gravitate towards

Speaker 1 their career and they don't take that time for self-care. I mean, and just talk about like

Speaker 1 what motivates you to do it every single day. Well, I make it a priority, and like, I think I started off

Speaker 1 our discussion, you got to make health your top priority.

Speaker 1 And I stress that with people that I care about, my family, uh, mom and dad, you know, and his heart is like my own man is who drinks and smokes every day. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I know I'm not going to change this. We butted head so many times.
I know I'm not going to change who he is, but I'm like, dad, can you at least let's do it? Let's be a little physical. And they say,

Speaker 1 pardon me, as far as exercise, because he's very physical. He's always working.
He's always doing something. We couldn't just hang out at my house and watch TV.

Speaker 1 If I did for a little bit, then I wasn't allowed to do it the next day because he would put me at work.

Speaker 1 Sounds like my dad, Captain John Brecca. Yeah, you can't, just he did not like laziness.
He just didn't want to see anybody just sort of hang out. But

Speaker 1 my point is, I make it a priority. I, those that I care about, I always stress and tell them you gotta, you gotta get your body moving, a body in action or in motion, stays in motion.

Speaker 1 And more mentally, what it helps me, and like when we talked about how it helps me just kind of mentally and with stress and what have you, I feel it's it's been a big advantage.

Speaker 1 And now I just, it's addicting and how you've just, you just feel good. And, you know, as I got, as I get older, I, I, I, I'm even, I made it even more of a priority.

Speaker 1 That's why I was lucky enough to hook up with you and, um, and to get educated on all these.

Speaker 1 I mean, obviously, I'm learning so much from you, but, but it's sort of never ending because as you get older, your body's changing, you're evolving, you've got to adapt with it. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I, you know, you and I have had an amazing journey. We did the gene test.
We did did some blood work.

Speaker 1 You know, what was really cool was how, how really you have this childlike fascination with it, which I

Speaker 1 have the same with you know, modern medicine and science. And I have this very childlike

Speaker 1 curiosity. Um, you know what I'm gonna die? Do you want me to tell you? Do you really know what I'm saying? Because I know that was your deal for a while.
I've been meaning to ask you.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I wonder if Breca knows when I'm going to die. You know, that's got so out of hand because that was,

Speaker 1 by the way, don't tell me. No, well, I read it right here.

Speaker 1 And is it true? Is it true that we can now, if we take care of ourselves, if I'm taking this, like, for example, this is Gary Bricker Root,

Speaker 1 can a person really live comfortably to like 110, 115? 120 to 140. Come on, come on.
Yes. Come on.
Get out of here. Are you serious? 80 is about to be the new 40.
I'm too.

Speaker 1 How good is that? Isn't that awesome? He's the best 80.

Speaker 1 It's going to be the new 40. And I sincerely mean that.
If you are alive in five years from today,

Speaker 1 it will be your choice whether you decide to live to 120 or 140 years old. The data is there.
Absolutely. Wow.
I mean, we understand

Speaker 1 cellular human biology and the communities and the ecosystem of the human body better today than we ever have in modern history. The challenges that, you know, the

Speaker 1 modern medicine and the regulatory environment can't keep up. I mean, we have the convergence for the first time of big data, artificial intelligence, and

Speaker 1 early detection. And so we can take trillions of independent variables and create an actionable result.
That's what we did with your gene test. When you did that cheek swap,

Speaker 1 it wasn't like, you know, two or three variables that went into deciding how you were going to supplement.

Speaker 1 It was trillions of variables because of the infinite possibility of combinations of your genes. And now we know how to supplement for deficiency, not just the sake of supplementing.

Speaker 1 And a lot of this has to do with us just getting back to the basics. You know,

Speaker 1 so we were talking before the podcast. This is my third city in three days.
So I woke up day before yesterday in Las Vegas, you know, after the fights, um, UFC 306. Um,

Speaker 1 and then I, I woke up, um, I went to bed in New York. Um, then I had a day of meeting, I was only on the ground for 21 hours in New York.

Speaker 1 Um, and then, uh, I woke up in New York City and went to bed last night in LA and woke up this morning in LA and here, here we are. Look at that.
And your energy through the roof still?

Speaker 1 Dude, through the roof. Like, I'm having a hard time sitting here.

Speaker 1 I really am. And I mean, part of it is like, I'm just,

Speaker 1 again, I have this like childlike fashion. I really feel like I live somebody else's life, but

Speaker 1 because I just am so enthralled with what I do and get to meet great people like you and do these podcasts and talk about what I love. But the truth is that,

Speaker 1 you know, we know now

Speaker 1 so much about cellular physiology and human biology that within the next five years, it will be our choice whether or not we want to live to age 120 or 140 or we want to take the opposite route. Wow.

Speaker 1 No, I want to go 140. I do too, bro.

Speaker 1 I do too.

Speaker 1 Wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 Podcast. I'm not a million-50 years.
I'm not a middle-aged guy then. If I'm going to go by that by the way, no, no, no, you're young.

Speaker 1 You look 25.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, you are. You are a baby.
I know you never get tired of hearing that. I love this.
140. Dang, that was way off.

Speaker 1 Cutting myself short. 120 to 140 easy.
You know,

Speaker 1 it's because, you know, we have,

Speaker 1 we've always focused, in my opinion, on the macros. You know, how do we look? How do we feel? But we never really, you know, the good anti-aging science, you know,

Speaker 1 is not only inside the cell, it's gone through the cell into the mitochondria. And we realize that

Speaker 1 aging is a mitochondrial disease, is a shift in the metabolism of the mitochondria. And to the extent that we can stop this or slow it down or prolong its decline, you are extending life.

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Going back to exercising, being healthy for your

Speaker 1 mental health, your well-being, I would imagine then stress and anxiety does take a lot of toll, is a toll and can age you, become debilitating at some point. Is that true? It's true.

Speaker 1 You know, there are stresses that are good for the body. You know, not all stress is bad.
Oh, no question. You know, I think we take a very myopic view of stress.

Speaker 1 I mean, if you think about certain stresses and how the body responds, so there's a, there's a response in the body called hormesis, right?

Speaker 1 We're a hormetic stress, where you stress the body and it strengthens in response. If you don't load a bone, it doesn't strengthen.
If you don't tear a muscle, it doesn't grow.

Speaker 1 If you don't challenge the immune system, it weakens, right? Coming out of the pandemic, you saw the effects of the global weakening of the immune system.

Speaker 1 I don't care what side of the aisle you're on.

Speaker 1 The worst thing that we ever did for humanity, social distancing, residential quarantining, and masking. There is no question.

Speaker 1 And the reason for that is that we actually took human human beings out of contact with other human beings. We didn't come in contact with the normal pathogens and

Speaker 1 things that actually cause our immune system to fight and to strengthen. That used to be the approach before.
I don't know why it changed or why did it.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I don't want to get into like sinister motives for it, but

Speaker 1 the truth is I think most people

Speaker 1 right now are of the mindset that maybe

Speaker 1 The governmental elites don't necessarily have our best interests at heart. Not that they have a sinister interest or a sinister outcome for us, but maybe they don't have our best interest at heart.

Speaker 1 There's a lot going on behind the scenes that influences public policy, things like that.

Speaker 1 And so,

Speaker 1 what we should do are things like what you're doing, just take health into our own hands. I mean, you know, people ask, you know, how do you wake up with so much energy every day?

Speaker 1 Well, I do the same routine every day, every day. If you look at my Instagram this morning, you know, I took all the kids, everybody that's off camera back here, my son, my daughter,

Speaker 1 my cameraman, my wife.

Speaker 1 And we have this Airbnb in LA. There's a big patch of grass outside.
So we went outside barefoot, sat on the ground. We did a round of family breath work.

Speaker 1 We actually let the sun hit our skin, gazed in the direction of the sun. Love that.

Speaker 1 Hydrated, took some amino acids, took some mineral salts, mineralized the body. We feel freaking amazing.
We feel great. You're exactly right.
I've done that as well when you've told me.

Speaker 1 And it's such an easy thing, inexpensive, obviously. You just got to go outside and find a patch of grass.
And you do. You feel, you feel

Speaker 1 so much better. In the sun, I know it gets a bad raps.

Speaker 1 It's beautiful backyards. Yeah.

Speaker 1 oh thank you thank you

Speaker 1 it's not done i wait till it's done

Speaker 1 but yeah the sun kind of gets a bad rap in the sense that there does have some benefits like you said i do feel better when i'm i know what the people are saying with the skun skin cancer and this and that but do it just like anything not as long as it's not too much look at the trajectory of skin cancer you know we had the highest rise in in skin cancers after the advent of of sunscreens Really?

Speaker 1 No question.

Speaker 1 I mean, if you look at the number of the rate or the incidence of skin cancer and you were to chart that year over year, starting, let's say, in the mid to late 80s, and you were to see this parabolic rise in skin cancer.

Speaker 1 Um, and it's concomitant with the um launch of sunscreens. And so, so you would think if if sunscreens are preventing um sun damage, we would have a reduction in skin cancer, but we haven't.

Speaker 1 There's significantly more skin cancer now than there was even in the 40s before we had sunscreen. That's why, and I think you know, the truth is most of us are not getting enough sun.

Speaker 1 It's not that we're getting too much sun. I think there were 23 brands of sunscreen since 2018 or sorry, since 2008

Speaker 1 that have been pulled from the market for directly causing skin cancer. Wow.
Sunscreen. Wow.
I mean, especially the aerosol versions. So every time we try to step in the way of mother nature.

Speaker 1 So I should avoid the aerosol versions just as a general. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I mean, unless you're spending a prolonged amount of time in the sun. I mean,

Speaker 1 you know, when you're in the beach or what have you, but no, not really. But

Speaker 1 deep tallow and beef tallow and zinc, probably the best sunscreen that you can use. Okay.
ISBF, no, no, no, no damaging forever chemicals and,

Speaker 1 you know, hormone disruptors in these natural compounds.

Speaker 1 Lots of sunscreens are made naturally.

Speaker 1 My favorite is the combination of beef, tallow, and zinc,

Speaker 1 because those not only leave your skin not feeling oily, but they block the skun and they do a lot for you. But you're olive complexed, man.
You're meant to have sun. In fact,

Speaker 1 about half the population is clinically deficient in vitamin D3. The darker your pigment of your skin, the the more deficient you likely are.

Speaker 1 This is why, you know, when the pandemic happened, they go, well, it disproportionately affected minorities. Well, that was true, but it had nothing to do with the fact that they were minority.

Speaker 1 It had to do with the pigment of their skin, right? So African-American, Latino, dark-complexed populations have lower levels of vitamin D3, and that's why we need to build an immune system, right?

Speaker 1 And the second leading cause of morbidity in COVID was clinical deficiency in vitamin D3.

Speaker 1 You know, and that's and and and this is why I wanted to get the message from you is yeah, you know, because you're you're living a fast-paced life. You're in the public eye.

Speaker 1 You, you don't control a lot of your schedule. I mean, you have times and places that you have to be.
You, you, you have a career. You have contracts.

Speaker 1 You have responsibilities that you don't get to just shift around. You can't just call access and say, I'm not feeling it today.
You know, I'm not showing up.

Speaker 1 You have to produce. And so, you know, the point that I wanted.

Speaker 1 to drill into with you because you look great you're in great physical condition you're still dominating your career i know that you still have aspirations for your career i want to talk about some of those um

Speaker 1 but it's because you've you've made health and wellness a foundation of of this journey and um and i and i deeply respect you for that thank you i appreciate it you know to that point you know what what is on the horizon for mario lopez i mean well i i you know acting dancing i mean kind of

Speaker 1 all the above

Speaker 1 i feel um very blessed to be as busy as i am especially at this stage in my life And I don't take any of it for granted. I love doing my radio show.
I love doing Access Daily, Access Hollywood.

Speaker 1 I love being able to do a holiday movie a year, sometimes one more. You got a holiday movie coming up this year? I do.

Speaker 1 With my new relationship with Great American Family, which will simultaneously be played on Hulu.

Speaker 1 My grown-up Christmas wish, and my wife's in it. My son's in it.
It's a very awesome. It's a family affair.
A bit of a musical or singing and dancing in it.

Speaker 1 And shot it outside of Chicago and happy with the way it turns out. It's it's done, it's done.
It'll be airing the first weekend

Speaker 1 after Thanksgiving. And is it a feel-good oh, yeah, Hollywood feel-good,

Speaker 1 romantic, yeah, romantic, and uh, yeah, and like I said, it's got musical elements, so that you know, so that's a lot of fun. So, uh, you know, I mean, I like keeping busy, yeah.

Speaker 1 Um, what's your preference, though?

Speaker 1 I mean, you, you do like the Access Hollywood segments, um, you do a radio show, you do movies, you know, what where do you find the most joy in in that giant sphere of, let's put it just under the sphere of acting?

Speaker 1 Well, I, I love the entertainment business as a whole. I, I really do.
I'm a fan first, and I think that helps when I'm interviewing and hosting because I do.

Speaker 1 I love TV, I love movies, I love music, and I think, and I'm just fascinated by it, and I like being around these incredibly talented people. I love learning about them.
I love, I love,

Speaker 1 hearing their backstories. And I'm just kind of genuinely inquisitive person.
I always want to hear, how'd you get here? What, what, what was your route? And I want to hear your journey.

Speaker 1 And so, and I get fascinated by that. And that I haven't, um,

Speaker 1 I haven't lost that. That's, I've been, I'm doing it like now 15 years, the show.
And the radio show, I think it's like 10, maybe 12, 12 years. Well, so, yeah, so 12 years.

Speaker 1 So, and the voice of God just came in. Yeah, yeah.
One of our producers here. And, uh, and I still have a great time and I love it.
And I still have a great time.

Speaker 1 And I look forward to talking to the, the guests. And, uh, um,

Speaker 1 and I genuinely enjoy what I do. And I don't want to stop doing it.
I'll do it as long as I can do it. So I continue to want to do that.

Speaker 1 I would love to, as far as on the horizon and goals, I want to continue to produce more things. I've got some really cool docs coming up.

Speaker 1 So going behind the camera. Behind the camera.
Creating the content. There you go.
And creating some more content. So I think if anything, I'd probably start.

Speaker 1 focusing a little bit more on that. And then, you know, you get to the point where kids start getting a little older.
You got to start figuring out what they're going to do.

Speaker 1 And probably be hitting you up for advice on that.

Speaker 1 But yeah. So, but I I don't take it for granted.
And I know that everything's just sort of a temp job and it can be gone like that. And so

Speaker 1 I try to attack it every day with, you know, some

Speaker 1 I've been so blessed with just really, really great kids. And it's,

Speaker 1 you know, I think it'd be fair to say that I'm inspiring to them, but they're actually more inspiring to me than I am to them. Yeah, they create incentive and motivation.
They surely create incentive.

Speaker 1 They create motivation.

Speaker 1 Like watching them pursue any kind of dream or have any kind of success is like, you know, multiples more of an impact on me than any, you know, the milestones that I set for myself. So I agree.

Speaker 1 It's really, it's really interesting to live through their eyes. I mean, you get to act in a movie with your son.
That's got to be an absolute milestone. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 With him, my wife, and the last movie, I had my daughter. And so those are just like kind of priceless moments that.
Are they giving you crap offset? They're like, no, because if they didn't directly,

Speaker 1 the kids are the kids.

Speaker 1 Did they take direction from you? No, they're pretty, you know, they're pretty. I make sure

Speaker 1 they're dialed in. They're well prepared.
They know it's not like some game that we're playing. And

Speaker 1 they've made me proud so far.

Speaker 1 So for you, because

Speaker 1 you've been in this entertainment business for so long, you've seen good actors, average actors, great actors.

Speaker 1 What makes the difference in your opinion between a good actor and a great actor? And I'll give you a little preference.

Speaker 1 I have a very well-known, very, very famous, you know, DJ friend of mine.

Speaker 1 And I asked him one day, I was like, what makes the difference between a good DJ and a great DJ?

Speaker 1 And he gave a one-word answer that I thought was really profound. He said, the transition, right? The transition between songs.

Speaker 1 Like, you should never feel this, you should never feel an abrupt stop, start, stop, start. Because, you know, it's a good DJ takes up the crowd

Speaker 1 journey. I agree with that.
Reads the crowd, knows when to stand on them, knows when to back off them. And he went down this whole cycle of how

Speaker 1 he's,

Speaker 1 it was Steve Aoki, but how he really. Oh, he's been here.
Yeah, he's, yeah, he's, he's, he's amazing. Yeah.
Great guy, great human. Talk about somebody who's on a, on a wellness journey, too.

Speaker 1 I mean, the guy doesn't drink, doesn't have any extra

Speaker 1 activities. He likes to vibe.

Speaker 1 He does like to throw cake at Tester. And I'm like, is that a sugar-free cake?

Speaker 1 Right. But what, in your opinion, is you observe this industry and you see greatness, right? Because I think there's a large pool of good actors.
Right.

Speaker 1 But then you have these iconic, great entertainers. Some of them have been on top of their game for decades.

Speaker 1 I'll say this because a lot of them, most of them are really, really talented. And it's either God-given or they put in a lot of work.

Speaker 1 But I think the ones that stick around, that are here for decades, and that have been

Speaker 1 megastars, I really feel it's they're nice people and they know how to communicate and they get the game.

Speaker 1 Either they're really good at, but they're acting outside of the script, but they know how to treat people. They know how to communicate.
They know how

Speaker 1 to sort of galvanize and make everyone sort of feel good about them. And I think that goes a long way.
It seems like the people that I've interviewed, the Tom Cruises, the Jamie Foxx, the

Speaker 1 Gabriel. You sure, the Cabrios of the world, these are guys that they're nice guys.
It seems like the biggest thing.

Speaker 1 They're nice. They're good people and they get it.
And they

Speaker 1 don't,

Speaker 1 I feel at least they don't necessarily take it for granted. And

Speaker 1 I think they've been blessed for a reason. So it's the ones that

Speaker 1 maybe you have those middle, those, those, those reality stars that are trying to, you know, that they're kind of hot. And those kind of, you know, you can see kind of the attitudes.

Speaker 1 I've seen many an actor come and go in their windows

Speaker 1 to be short. But I feel like the ones, they're actually nice people.
And I think good things do happen to good people.

Speaker 1 So, so if you, if you were going to give advice to a young, aspiring, up-and-coming actor about how, how do I have a

Speaker 1 career that stands the test of time in Hollywood? Because Hollywood is a nasty place. I mean, it's a tough place.
Absolutely. I think Nasty was right the first time.
It really is. It's cutthroat.
And

Speaker 1 look, this is the, I would say, I'll say this. This is the best time ever in the

Speaker 1 history of

Speaker 1 television, cinema, ever, just in life, that one can get into the entertainment industry. Why? Because now you can create your own own platforms, create your own content, get your own buzz,

Speaker 1 and you have control of something. Before growing up, I didn't have, there was no internet, there was no YouTube, there was no any sort of social studio or not.

Speaker 1 Now they're with their, I just rather doing like four or five pilots, you know, these television shows you test to see if they're going to become TV series off of someone's social media account because they were witty, they were telling personal stories, they created this content where it created buzz and attention.

Speaker 1 So now you're sort of in control of your own destiny if you want it to be as much energy and work as you want to put into it, where that wasn't the case before. If I grew up right now,

Speaker 1 I'd be one of those YouTube kids with like hustling with like these millions.

Speaker 1 I'd be damned if I didn't have like millions of followers.

Speaker 1 You'd just be doing this. I'm not even a kid, so I don't know what I'd be.
You know what I mean? But I'd be probably, I don't know what it would be.

Speaker 1 Like I see my kids watch these like kids open toys and play.

Speaker 1 It's like nonsense that there's like, I know I'm a lot more personable than that because I'd figure out whatever was resonating out there and I'd start to hit it hard.

Speaker 1 But right now, especially if you're a young person, there's no better time than to get into this business. If you really want to and you really want to bust your ass like a little savage, then create.

Speaker 1 Bust your ass like a little savage. Create your own content, be consistent with it, be disciplined.
And

Speaker 1 that's all you need. You can do auditions over Zoom now.

Speaker 1 You know, my mom used to drive me two and a half, three hours every day or every other day, whatever, when I would have auditions for five-minute auditions and then drive me right back down to San Diego.

Speaker 1 Now you could do like five or six a day in a Zoom. Yeah.
That wasn't the case. So now it's better than ever to get in there as far as opportunity and as far as you

Speaker 1 making something for yourself and not having any sort of excuse. Yeah, that's so awesome.
And a lot of people are worried about AI and the AI impact on the industry.

Speaker 1 And I see both sides of the coin, but it's not going to be a big deal or it's actually going to eliminate all of acting and they're just going to produce movies on AI and people won't even be behind a camera anymore.

Speaker 1 What's your thought on?

Speaker 1 I too see both sides of that equation. I think we're a long way away from

Speaker 1 scary coming. It is at the same time.

Speaker 1 It is. It is.

Speaker 1 It's exciting and scary, but I think we're a long way away from replacing actors. I think so too.

Speaker 1 I don't think you ever

Speaker 1 in that human component. And that human component, I think, are irreplaceable.
But that's, again, not our take right now. But I still think it's going to take a minute before we get even to that.

Speaker 1 So what would be your takeaway health advice

Speaker 1 to people that have busy schedule, schedule that have kids,

Speaker 1 that have careers and a marriage and a schedule that they've got to keep up?

Speaker 1 What would be your takeaway um health advice what would what would you want them to know stop making excuses everyone's busy everyone's got a lot on their plate everyone says i don't have time yeah and so they try to justify it that way you got to make the time you make a priority you make it a priority you'll make the time just like when you're in love you'll make the time to meet that girl yeah you're nothing's gonna get in your way you're gonna find that time you're gonna make that time well that's how you got to look at it you've got it you've got to make that time whether that's shaving an hour off of your sleep,

Speaker 1 maybe not going out that night as late as you wanted to, but you really have to look at it as part of your everyday routine and start being consistent with it. And it's all about discipline.

Speaker 1 At the end of the day, life is about discipline and the choices you make.

Speaker 1 And I think the best choice that an individual can make for themselves is making their health a top priority. So quit making excuses and just do it to paraphrase Nike.
I love that, man.

Speaker 1 You know, I wind down every one of my podcasts by asking all my guests the same question. So there's no right or wrong answer to this question.

Speaker 1 And it is, what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human? What's it mean to me to be the ultimate human? What does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 try to be the best version of yourself and

Speaker 1 grow in the right direction every day, physically, spiritually, emotionally.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 being a human means we're going to make mistakes.

Speaker 1 But as long as you learn from those mistakes and keep moving forward, not veer off track, I think you'll be the best human you could be, hence ultimate human. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Love it, brother, man.

Speaker 1 I love chopping it up with you. I'm excited.
I can talk to you for like, I talked to you all day. I can't believe this is.

Speaker 1 All I know is

Speaker 1 we are going to do a podcast in 50 years, guys. So stay tuned.
That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right here in this studio. That's right.
50 years from today, 2075. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 We'll be back for the follow-up episode. I love you, brother.
It's been a great journey with you, man. I'm looking forward to being on the show this afternoon.

Speaker 1 And as always, guys, that's just science.