Violence: Historical, Current, and Potential

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Speaker 3 This week, Victor is looking at 1944 in World War II, and we'll learn about ending the war with both the Nazis and the Japanese. Not completely, but almost.

Speaker 3 And then we'll also look at some news stories in our first segment. And we've still got the LA riots going on, so we'll get an update on those.

Speaker 3 And then Greta goes to Gaza and assassination attempts in South American presidencies or candidates for those presidencies. So we want to take a moment for that.

Speaker 3 We're going a little international this Saturday. So stay with us and we'll be right back with those stories.

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Speaker 3 So, Victor, I know that we need a little update. All the news is on the LA riots.
And what I wanted to ask was, so Trump has sent his Homeland Security, obviously, 700 Marines, 2,000 National Guard.

Speaker 3 And I was wondering, in addition to whatever else you want to say, how's Trump doing? How's this response?

Speaker 5 Well, I mean, he had a press conference this morning, and he handled himself very well.

Speaker 5 He said, I'm sensitive because in 2020, I begged and begged and begged incompetent mayors, governors, governors like Tim Waltz.

Speaker 5 He didn't bring in the National Guard for seven days. So I had to act belatedly and then I got criticized.
This time I'm taking no chances. And he mentioned that the L.A.

Speaker 5 is going to be the scene of the Olympics. It's bad press, and it was not nonviolent.
It was violent from the beginning.

Speaker 5 There were people, as Trump pointed out, that were handing out expensive bio-shields, helmets, all sorts of riot gears. I don't know.
And the signs were pre-printed, most of them.

Speaker 5 So he went through all of that. There were all these side issues.
Maxine Waters, who is completely on hinge, tried to break her way in to see the SEIU union head who was in ICE detention.

Speaker 5 And she just said, I'm a congressman, a congresswoman, as if she can do anything. And they said, no, you can't.

Speaker 5 And she's, I think, and then the police chief, remember that he had that morose face in the initial when it first started when Karen Boss surrounded surrounded and kind of ritually embarrassed law enforcement by saying, this will not stand.

Speaker 5 And they're looking, hey, this is getting violent. And so Trump likes the chief, but as I pointed out in an earlier Daily Signal video, LAPD didn't quite react as quickly as they might have.

Speaker 5 They did, now they're on board. What's the sum total of all this? The sum total is the entire left-wing narrative has collapsed.

Speaker 5 The narrative is that there was just a lot of peaceful people walking around, and then these vicious Gestapo people snatched them.

Speaker 5 And then people who were legitimately working and wants to go, they took some time off for peaceful protests. There was no cars.

Speaker 5 They were not calling automatically driven cars to have them assemble to blow them up. They were not blowing up people's cars.
They were not throwing rocks at cars.

Speaker 5 They were not attacking highway patrol vehicles. They were not spitting in people's faces.
They were not burning American flags. They were not failing to disperse.
They were not taking over 101.

Speaker 5 That's what they were doing. And so the left, it was like the 2020 optics where somebody said mostly peaceful demonstrations and the flames were going out.

Speaker 5 There was a good scene on CNN or MSNBC where they said the same thing and there was a car on fire. So I think that the left now, and what do I mean by the left?

Speaker 5 I'm talking about Representative Torres who said, get the F out, ice of my, you know, and then Karen Bass, we won't stand for this.

Speaker 5 And then Gavin Newsome, this is chaotic, this is reckless, and then a lot of really weird stuff. He said, hey, Tom Holman, come and get me.
Kind of rugged,

Speaker 5 just

Speaker 5 punking him. And then we had his tip with the Treasury Secretary, Scott Basson.

Speaker 5 We're not going to, we might just withhold federal taxes because we pay 80 billion more than we get and services from the federal government. I thought he was Jefferson Davis, maybe.

Speaker 5 And then he said, and that pays the federal government's bills. Come on, Gavin.
It's a little over 1% of all federal revenues. Why don't you just realize that you're polling 27%?

Speaker 5 2% want you to be the nominee. You're going nowhere, and you're blowing up what was left of your viability politically.
You're going to be termed out. What are you going to do?

Speaker 5 Because people are looking at you, and this comes on the heels of the fire in Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 When you couldn't say a word about Karen Bass junketing or the deputy mayor phoning in bomb threats, or the head of water and power has no idea why the reservoir is dry, or the fire chief who was fired talking about DEI whether hydrants dry, or why you wouldn't let people clean up their hills of fuel for the fire.

Speaker 5 So it's just a one-two punch. And

Speaker 5 Gavin Newsom is in big trouble. The biggest trouble, though, is the whole illegal immigrant deportation, because there was a CBS poll that showed that fifty 54% still want deportation.

Speaker 5 That rises to 75%

Speaker 5 when they're told they're violent criminal. Then they said they were just sweeping people off the street.
They went into an employer who was trying to create an illegal alien workforce. And among the

Speaker 5 people that they arrested, they were,

Speaker 5 you know, charged with assault. charged with attempted murder.
There were some terrible people. And so as that all gets out, the left then looks ridiculous.

Speaker 5 And now what they're doing, they're not only getting money from these NGO nonprofit left-wing that are, by the way, we're paying it for it in California, $45 million in taxpayers' money.

Speaker 5 But they're not only getting riot gear to hand out to people, now they're handing out American flags because they're thinking somebody called up and said, hey, I'm a U.S. senator.
I'm supporting you.

Speaker 5 I like what you're doing, but you're making it impossible. I got an election coming up in November.
What is this? So, you know, suppress the Mexican flag. There's also an existential question.

Speaker 5 I mentioned it on Laura Ingram the other night. I mentioned this 20 years ago in Mexico.
I had a student, and he was waving the Mexican flag during the controversy over Prop 187,

Speaker 5 and they were burning the American flag on the Cal State campus. So I said to him, why are you waving the flag under no circumstances of the country, under no circumstances you want to go back?

Speaker 5 And you're burning the flag of the country that you say you want to stay in, even though you're here illegally. And he couldn't answer that.

Speaker 5 And so it was so weird to see these people spitting on the American flag and burning it, and then Mexican flags everywhere.

Speaker 5 And so, is it confusion, or do they think all these Mexican flags say that LA is now part of Mexico and they are trying to remind everybody?

Speaker 3 That would be what I would think.

Speaker 5 These people actually think they're in Mexico. What are we trying to do is look at the illogical emotional response and see if there's a logic to it.

Speaker 5 So if that's true, all these young people that are either here illegally or the children of people who came illegally, for the most part, maybe they were parents who were legal, maybe they were legal, but they may all had one thing in common.

Speaker 5 They said that Mexico was not for them. So they come over to a different paradigm, completely different.
Its history is completely different. This is not Spanish Catholic conquistador.
colonization.

Speaker 5 Remember,

Speaker 5 the Spanish crown would not let anybody, unless they were Catholic and Spanish, go into their colonies, and the vast majority were males.

Speaker 5 North America, Canada, United States were largely Protestant from the British Isles and then Western Europe. And from the very beginning, it was mostly what the left calls settler, not conquistadors.

Speaker 5 It was families, Plymouth Rock. So it was a very different paradigm.
So they're saying that we left our paradigm because we wanted your paradigm.

Speaker 5 And now we've got a million illegals, and it's our paradigm but why would you wave the flag then if you don't like that paradigm so carry the logic a little farther further so we now we have our mexican flag and we've created a virtual mexico in los angeles then somebody's going to say but that's why we left so i'm leaving l a to san francisco and you're going to say well we're going to go and wave mexican flags and do it to then i'll go to oregon you see what i mean it's totally incoherent then you have president sheinbaum god doesn't she have anybody with a brain in Mexico advising her?

Speaker 5 So the first thing she said, these are our people and we're going to weigh in. We're going to provide them legal counsel.

Speaker 5 President Sheinbaum, if Americans are burning the Mexican flag in downtown Mexico City and they're protesting, waving old glory, first of all, your biggest problem would be restraining Mexican citizens with trying to kill them.

Speaker 5 They would have no rights. You would jail them.
And then if Donald Trump said to you, we're protecting our people in your country.

Speaker 5 We're we're going to come in and give them what you think you would do. Now, I think I know what you think the United States' response will be.

Speaker 5 Do you realize there's a bill in Congress right now, President Jean Baum? It has a lot of issues related to you: finish the wall, 10,000 more, border patrol, and tax remittances.

Speaker 5 And they're arguing about the percent, 2.5% to 3.5%.

Speaker 5 You get 63 billion, Central America, 60 billion. I will bet my life that we will hear somebody immediately say that's too little.

Speaker 5 If Mexico is interfering in our affairs and these people who are burning Los Angeles and assaulting people are on any federal or state health, housing, food, education, legal subsidy to free up money to send back to Mexico, because Mexico either cannot or will not take care of its own needy, then that's not sustainable and we're going to up that.

Speaker 5 So I would expect that this big, beautiful bill will have an element of 10% or 15%.

Speaker 5 That will cost her, her big mouth, about $10 billion if that should happen.

Speaker 5 The second thing, President Scheinbaum, you are deliberately allowing China to fabricate, assemble telephones, computers, cells, cars, equipment in your country to evade a tariff.

Speaker 5 You're running up $171 billion.

Speaker 5 Do you really think with that surplus that you are colluding, if I could use that term with it, Chinese, do you think Donald Trump's not going to be angry about your activity and your interference into the internal affairs of the United States?

Speaker 5 You also have cartels, and they have been making about $20 billion killing Americans. So I think people are so angry.
Remember the polls. It's 54.
I would give you another poll.

Speaker 5 The people that you are aligned with, if you look at the popularity of Mayor Karen Bass, it's in the

Speaker 5 if you look at Gavin Newsom's popularity, Survey Monkey says the last 30 polls show him at 27 percent. Another poll shows that 2 percent of the Democratic Party want him as their nominee.

Speaker 5 However, there's two polls, as I said, 54 percent want deportations. But this is, I think,

Speaker 5 75 percent want

Speaker 5 deportations immediately of anybody convicted of a crime. But when you look at

Speaker 5 polls of relations with you, you mean Mexico and the United States, they have crashed. You're down to about 33% of the American people.

Speaker 5 And most importantly, on the first 100 days of Donald Trump, there was a poll, and they asked each specific group by gender and race, what's your sense of Donald Trump's first hundred days?

Speaker 5 It was positive, but Hispanics were 62%.

Speaker 5 So to whom are you trying to appeal to the illegal aliens that may be the more uh dominant and burning i don't know why people are not at work how can you do this for two or three days work days and not be at work or mexican american citizens because i have a feeling that they have no sympathy with you or mexico and they're very happy in america as american citizens and they don't like people expropriating the mexican flag and acting as if they speak to those so all these mexican american and central american left-wing representatives, maybe you'll say, well, Victor, somebody voted in them.

Speaker 5 Yes. But I have a feeling that they don't represent the majority of Mexican American citizens.
We'll see.

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Speaker 3 And I thought maybe we would start. It's kind of a little bit comical, but with Greta Thunberg.

Speaker 3 And she has gone to Gaza, and she is now on a plane back to, I think she's in the Netherlands, but she is Swedish, Victor. Not to disparage your...

Speaker 5 I'm hoping you weren't going to mention that. I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 5 I can tell you right now, everybody, that if there were a bunch of Swedish-American left-wing radicals like her, and they had come into the United States illegally, and they were burning and doing things and waving this Swedish flag, do you think I would have one iota of solidarity with them?

Speaker 5 No. I would be out in the streets saying, deport them.

Speaker 5 I would say, I would wear Viking horns and say, go full Viking on them. Get rid of them.
We don't want them here. We don't want ingratitude.
Come over here from Sweden.

Speaker 5 But she's, of course, not in the United States. She's 22 years old, and she got on this little boat.
I guess it was kind of a rigged sailboat. It had a motor, but it looked like it was clean energy.

Speaker 3 Didn't she call it the freedom flotilla or something?

Speaker 5 I think the idea was to have sails that you can, theory, could use

Speaker 5 so you wouldn't be burning and destroying the planet to get to Gaza.

Speaker 5 So they were going to get to Gaza, and then they thought they were going to be the heart throbs of international media, but then the Israelis intercepted them and basically gave them a choice.

Speaker 5 You can be detained in Israel or we'll send you home. Poor little Greta got to go home on coach and she was a little tiny.
She's very diminutive. She was in that seat all by herself.

Speaker 5 Looked kind of nice. There wasn't anybody around her.
She looks like she's got a good deal and probably got a free ticket home. I don't know what she thinks she accomplished.

Speaker 5 The Israelis said, if you stay here, we're going to show you the actual documentary evidence, a long film of October 7th.

Speaker 5 And that would entail beheading people, torturing them, decapitating them, burning them alive, raping. And

Speaker 5 no, I don't want to see that. It's propaganda.
So she refused to see it. So they said, here's your one-way ticket.
Don't come back.

Speaker 3 It shows how removed from reality she is. You know what I mean? Oh, that's propaganda.
No, those things really happen.

Speaker 5 It's typical of the left.

Speaker 5 They don't want any. It's like the LA riots.
They keep saying somebody gave them the talking points. It's NBC.
All of them say, peaceful, peaceful, peaceful, peaceful.

Speaker 5 And you think, what are all these cars burning up? The only funny thing about was this guy, totally incompetent. He takes a big gas can and I guess a hot engine, and he pours it around.

Speaker 5 And he's acting really smart. And then the other guy thinks, well, I'll light it.

Speaker 5 And I don't think he's ever been around autos because the whole thing blew up in his face. And he was lucky he didn't blow up everybody.
But that's another sign of an incompetent.

Speaker 5 There were some celebrities out there, too, that wanted to get their smell of tear gas in the air, but it was pretty pathetic. And all these things on the left were pathetic.

Speaker 5 You know, at some point I was thinking, when I was watching everybody saying this is peaceful, as everything was taking over freeways and hitting policemen and lighting cars, and one guy had a hammer and he was just breaking all the windows, those big heavy glass windows in the police precinct.

Speaker 5 Another guy was taking a hammer and hitting parts of the building to break up rocks to throw. And I thought, and they're still lying and saying it.
I thought, wow, think about it.

Speaker 5 We had Trayvon Martin, that he was just this young little tweet, young-strapping little kid that happened to be wandering around when George Floyd came up and murdered him when he was,

Speaker 5 I don't need to get into it. And we had Jesse Small that Camilla Harris, oh, this is terrible.
And he paid two people to slightly beat him up and,

Speaker 5 you know, charge white people with white. And then we had the Duke La Crosse.
Remember that? All those.

Speaker 5 They raped a sore black woman. And then she admitted that was false later.
Then we had the La Croix, the Covington kids that were berating a Native American Vietnam veteran, combat veteran.

Speaker 5 Remember that? A guy had never been to Vietnam during the war, and he started and staged the whole thing. And I can go back even further to Al Sharpton and Tawana Brawley and that whole bit.

Speaker 5 It's just.

Speaker 5 And then we can go into Russian collusion, laptop disinformation.

Speaker 5 They never stop. They never say, okay, we're lying.
We've got to stop this because we've destroyed. Instead, they said, we caused a lot of chaos and we took a lot of time out of their schedule.

Speaker 5 And that's good because we are morally superior. And he means necessary or justified.
So we don't care if they're true or fabricated. Nobody ever apologized.

Speaker 5 Camilla Harris said, I'm so sorry what Just Juicy did. He misled me.
No.

Speaker 3 It seems

Speaker 3 the Democrats are incapable of legislation. And so they're hoping that this mass rioting,

Speaker 3 mass disturbance on the part of the moral is going to do something for them.

Speaker 5 Why are they incapable? Because

Speaker 5 nobody wants what they would do.

Speaker 3 Yes, that and then just incapable.

Speaker 3 Look at how the DNC, remember that scene where they were trying to decide how to vote when they said this or saying, well, you have to do this and that with this intersectional.

Speaker 5 When they elected David Hogg, the guy that won, he was in obscure Minnesota for 13 years, head of the Minnesota Democratic Party. He was named David.
They leaked this sport.

Speaker 5 David Hogg has been all over the airwaves saying, well, we got to get a new party. And he wants to get all these radical leftists that will win the primaries.

Speaker 5 He knows one thing, that all the tech money and all the big money is on the hard left

Speaker 5 in that party. And he knows that young people will come out to vote.
And he knows they can win primaries. But he also knows they'll lose the general election.

Speaker 5 And they have no issues they can run on because they're all 20, 80 issues.

Speaker 5 So then the chairman, it was like he was, he's supposed to be a dynamic Napoleonic tough guy, you know, a young James Carville or something.

Speaker 5 And he goes, then you must know that I am trying so hard and trying to raise money as my job commands me to. And then you just kind of become very well known and nobody knows who I am.

Speaker 5 I can't do my job. I thought, who's worse, David Hogg or this simpering critter that can't get a backbone? Why don't you say, listen, listen, you SOB?

Speaker 5 I'm not cussing on my, but he could say, you blank, blank, blank, blank, you punk, you're 25 years old. I've been in this business, and this is what we're going to do.
But he can't.

Speaker 5 But that's like saying Chuck Schumer is going to go to AOC and goes, you're a joke. And he's not.

Speaker 3 So are you trying to tell me that in addition to their inability to pass policy and the cacophony of their general party structure, they have absolutely no leadership?

Speaker 5 They have no leadership, and they don't know. That was why Joe Biden squared that circle.
That was a brilliant thing they did. They got this old decrepit moderate.

Speaker 5 He wasn't a moderate, but he was an empty vessel, waxen effigy, and they put him there by design. Jim Clyburn was one of the architects of it.
They got all the nutty people out.

Speaker 5 They got Spartacus out. They got Buddy Jig out.
They got Warren out. They got crazy Bernie Sanders out.
They got the Castro Brother or one of him out. They got every nut they could out.

Speaker 5 And then Joe said, I'm just kind of,

Speaker 5 it's COVID. I can't do anything.
I'm going to stay in my basement. Hey, make up my basement like it's an office.
And he just stayed there. And then they outsourced it.

Speaker 5 And then these leftists came in and they just caused havoc. And then the old guys came in and said, hey, we have a midterm coming up.
So this is what's going to happen.

Speaker 5 All you guys have to keep your blank mouth shut for 90 days. You let the old insiders, and they said, okay.
So they said, Joe, go drain the petroleum reserve.

Speaker 5 Joe, go over to Saudi Arabia and say you didn't mean it. Please, please, and go down to Venezuela and go over to Iran.
Or basically tell them, please, please, please.

Speaker 5 Joe, you got to cancel that student loan money. But the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court, forget the Supreme Courts.
Just brag that you're going to go around it. And he did.

Speaker 5 And, hey, Joe, you've got to do some amnesty for marijuana. And then they called in New York and say, you idiot.
Now we're bleeding on the, I I like what you did. We got more constituents.

Speaker 5 We got more welfare recipients. But we got this midterm, 2020.
We got the general. So can you kind of go through tough border talk?

Speaker 5 And then right before the general election, we'll start to close the border. And that's exactly how they operate.
Anybody who didn't see it, I can't believe the people voted for that.

Speaker 3 All right, Victor. So let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and we'll hear your take on 1944, World War II.
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Speaker 3 So please come join him there. Well, Victor, allies are coming near the end of their war, but I'm sure they had some stumbling blocks in 1944, so I'd like to hear about them.

Speaker 5 Well, but I'll just say one thing. I remember that Donald Trump, they asked him about Gavin Newsom.
I like the way Trump just matter-of-factly says something that could

Speaker 5 either be termed childish or outrageous or true. True.
So they said, how about what's your relations with Gavin Newsom? He's a nice guy.

Speaker 5 Everybody knows he's utterly incompetent.

Speaker 5 Utterly incompetent. No other politician would say that, but it's true.

Speaker 3 I think he said before that, I like Gavin Newsom, that he's utterly incompetent.

Speaker 5 Yeah. So 1944 is, we talked at 43 was that critical period at El Alamein,

Speaker 5 at the Battle of Kursk, where the Russian juggernauts stopped the German. After Kursk, July 1943,

Speaker 5 the Wehrmacht was not capable of a sustained offensive.

Speaker 5 And we talked about the Americans then had met with Montgomery and North Africa, and they had a quarter million prisoners, larger than Stalingrad, surrender. North Africa is clear.

Speaker 5 They had taken Sicily is clear. And they're stuck in

Speaker 5 they invaded Rome, and now they're stuck in Italy, 1944.

Speaker 5 And the British Army is going on the inside, and the Americans down the outside of the Athenaeus on their way to meet in Austria, and they're never going to get there. Italy is going to be a debacle.

Speaker 5 And that's going on in 1944. The Americans are starting to learn in mid-1944 after the disasters of 43 that they

Speaker 5 that if they have P-47s or P-51s that are coming out, fighter escort, and they not always do precision bombing, but they do area bombing like the British.

Speaker 5 They allow the fighters to detach from the bombers. They're getting better results.
They're still not there. The Battle of the Atlantic is pretty much over now.
The submarines have lost.

Speaker 5 They can't stop the convoys either to Russia, from Britain and the United States, or from North America to Britain. So what's the big thing happening?

Speaker 5 The big thing happening is D-Day, which is going to be June 6th, and

Speaker 5 roughly 180,000 people are going to land there. They're going to be trapped for about a month and they're going to break out.

Speaker 5 By August, they're going to be in Paris, and most of France will be liberated.

Speaker 5 That is very, very important because that means that American and British fighter bases can be moved eastward three to four hundred miles.

Speaker 5 And Germans will not be able to be in range of hurting London or attacking bombers as they go with the channel.

Speaker 5 So suddenly, after D-Day, you start to see dramatic increases in the efficacy and the ability of fighters not to sustain losses. And they're going to inflict a lot of losses

Speaker 5 on the Louffois.

Speaker 5 And so that's going on. The only thing in the Eastern theater that, excuse me, there's three theaters, but in the Western theater, what's happened, the Mediterranean is secure.

Speaker 5 There's no problem getting oil through the Suez. The Atlantic is now secure.
There's no German surface ships, there's no submarines to worry about.

Speaker 5 The Americans are now in France, and they're moving westward with the British and the Canadians, and they've got over a million men.

Speaker 5 They have complete air supremacy because of the Typhoon and Spitfire fighters and the Thunderbolt and Mustangs.

Speaker 5 They are as good or better than anything the Germans will have until the Mischer-Schmidt 262 jet. There's some things that are bothering them.
In July, they have a pulse jet.

Speaker 5 It's a buzz bomb, cruise missile, and they're not very accurate, but they have a wallet of 1,500 pounds, 1,000 to 1,500 pounds, and they go about 350 to 400 miles an hour.

Speaker 5 And then the gyroscope, they cut off the engine, and they don't know how to stop it. They can shoot them down, maybe with planes.
They don't know when they're coming.

Speaker 5 22,000 British citizens are going to be wounded or killed. When they start to,

Speaker 5 after D-Day, they're going in there and they're looking around Brussels and Belgium and areas where these things are launched. By August, September, they're launching a ballistic missile,

Speaker 5 5,000 of them. And you can't stop the V-2.
And that has 2,000 pounds of, and that causes another round of death. And so it's not so easy.
At the same time, the Russians have been going eastward.

Speaker 5 And as the Americans land in Diday, Operation Bagration, they have taken the Crimea, they have taken back Sebastopol, they are now in Romania, and they've made up about five.

Speaker 5 The lines in the Eastern Front did not change much from June, excuse me, from December of 1941 all the way to January, February of 1944. Now they're fluid as the Germans are starting to crack.

Speaker 5 And so the idea is the Americans will continue bombing and advance, and that, and the Germans will have to go back and forth with divisions from Russia to the Western Front, Western Front to Russia.

Speaker 5 And what happens is the Americans and British and Canadians are moving faster per day than the Russians are. So there's a fear they're going to come into Germany, at least across the Rhine, before

Speaker 5 the Russians will get into East Germany. And so it's what's going to happen at the end of 1944,

Speaker 5 they are going to start to see some battle-hard divisions, some of the best divisions in the world, they being the Allies. And everybody knows the difference between exterior and interior lines.

Speaker 5 As Germany, as the German Empire collapses, it's easier to put troops back and forth on trains. They have less territory to cover.
They're near their logistics.

Speaker 5 The lines of the Americans are going 800, 900 miles, and they have the Red Ball Express.

Speaker 5 They have to drive trucks full of gasoline cans, and they need half of them to power the truck to get there and get back. So it's slowing down.

Speaker 5 The other thing is they have decided in Tehran that they're going not to ask for an armistice.

Speaker 5 They want an unconditional surrender.

Speaker 5 That makes that defeating the German army in the field is much different than invading and taking over every square inch of Germany and throwing out all of the Nazis.

Speaker 5 That's going to cost hundreds of thousands of lives more. If you go to the Pacific theater, it's wide open now.
The Americans have had and the British have three three areas that they've divided up.

Speaker 5 The British, because they're worried about India, have been mostly responsible for Burma flying the hump over

Speaker 5 the the Himalayas to get supplies into China. They have now taken control of Burma, but the Japanese have in in their Yogo offensive, have threatened India.
So the British are tied down still.

Speaker 5 MacArthur is now approaching the Philippines. He's gone Operation Cartwell around New Guinea, and he is going to invade the Philippines.

Speaker 5 That's going to be a nasty fight in Manila and then to get back all of Corregidor and Bataan and all of the other islands.

Speaker 5 Then there's going to be these fantastic, I don't mean fantastic, I should just say gargantua battles, the Great Marianas turkey shoot, where all the Japanese carriers, now eight to ten of them, are going to come out finally and challenge the Americans over the Marianas and then over

Speaker 5 the

Speaker 5 Leite Gulf. These are the two biggest naval battles in history.

Speaker 5 And when they're all done, the Japanese fleet is destroyed and all of their naval pilots are dead, basically, and most of their new generation planes are shot down.

Speaker 5 And they unleash the Hellcat fighter and it just decimates Japanese aircraft around the Marianas. And the idea is they look at a map and the Marianas, I'm talking about Guam, Tenyon, and Saipan,

Speaker 5 are 1,600 miles to Japan. And they can be supplied by sea, not overland.
That's cheaper. Because now you have absolute maritime supremacy.

Speaker 5 And so the idea is you're going to build these 8,000 to 10,000-foot coral runways on all three islands. And this new bomber that can go 1,600 miles one way, it has just about 100-mile leeway.

Speaker 5 You take off Saipon, Tenyan, or Guam, you fly eight hours, average 240 miles an hour, and then you're over Japan for about 10 minutes, 15 minutes. And you hit Cobe,

Speaker 5 you hit Tokyo, of course, you hit bases, you mine the harbors of South Korea. They can do a lot.
Then you have to fly back. So that is part of it.
Part of the air power was to take islands.

Speaker 5 And the big two will be they'll have to take the Philippines, but on the horizon, they've got to go in February into Iwo Jima because that's halfway between the Marianas and the mainland.

Speaker 5 And the B-29s are starting to hemorrhage. They have mechanical problems.
They're being shot down. So if they can land halfway at Iwo Jima, refuel, recoup, save crews.

Speaker 5 So they had, and that's a horrific battle. And then what we're going to see on 45 is Okinawa.

Speaker 5 The tragedy about all these wars, when you're fighting, is that last 12-month period from August 1944 to August, September 1945, that is where the most casualties per day are going to be inflicted on the Allies.

Speaker 5 So it's the worst. period of the entire war.

Speaker 5 So the British are trying to break into China. The Japanese are trying to pull out out of China.
They have 7 million troops on the mainland. They have the ability to get 27 million.

Speaker 5 They have the ability to get 20 million civilian troops. Everybody's going to look at what happens at Okinawa from April to July of 1945.

Speaker 5 And so the big question next year is, we're going to have to get inside Germany and we're going to have to get inside Japan.

Speaker 5 grab Tojo and Hitler by the neck and defeat these people. One of them will be done without that because of air power, but the other one will be done with partnership with Russia.

Speaker 5 But that's the downside either way, because if you want to go into Germany and destroy Nazism, then you're dealing with Joseph Stalin.

Speaker 5 And he has territorial ambitions in Eastern Europe, and he is as bad as Hitler. And if you want to go into Japan, it's going to be a bloodbath.

Speaker 5 And if you don't want to go into Japan, given Japanese militarism, you're going to have to inflict a degree of damage from the air by firebombing and the atomic bombs, it's going to be very controversial.

Speaker 3 Well, I have a couple of questions before we go to our break.

Speaker 3 I'm kind of wondering about the truth behind the statement that Germany's army started to be reduced to boys and old men, because you were saying they had to go back and forth between the Eastern and Western Front.

Speaker 3 It was a shorter distance from their supply line, etc.

Speaker 3 But to what extent were they relying on on troops that were super young or old men?

Speaker 5 That started in late 1944. They are going to lose about three and a half to four million soldiers.

Speaker 5 Germany, the German Empire that started the war, including there, the Janschluss with Austria, etc., was about 81 million people.

Speaker 5 And so I'll give you an example of mobilization. The United States has about 150, 140 to 150 million.
We've mobilized 12 million.

Speaker 5 Russia has about 220 million. They mobilize about 12 million.
What I mean is at any given time, that's a size, but they're going to lose 20 million.

Speaker 5 Germany is half that, roughly, less than half. And they try to recruit Dutch Nazis

Speaker 5 and they get Spanish, the Blue Legion, to go to Russia. They get Italian, but they're not successful.

Speaker 5 So most of the time, they have a pull of 18 to 30-year-olds of about 6 six to eight million, and almost half of them are dead.

Speaker 5 And so what Hitler won't do and he should do, he should pull troops from areas that are indefensible and irrelevant. So he should shut down all the Navy.

Speaker 5 The Tirpitz and the surface ships will be sunk. They're in fjords in the north.
The U-boat thing is over with.

Speaker 5 It's not going to, I mean, they're getting sophisticated U-boats with snorkels, long, long-range batteries, but it's not going to change the war. And Werner Braun Brauns V2 is not going to change.

Speaker 5 It's a very inefficient way to deliver a pound of dynamite basic explosive. But what he does is he keeps like 20,000 troops in Norway.
He keeps troops. He's still, he should just vacate Italy.

Speaker 5 He's still got troops in Italy and he's fighting Italians and Americans.

Speaker 5 And he should have made a, he's got, he will have a quarter million Germans holed up in the Atlantic ports at places like Brest, Lehav, Calais, New Richel, and they're in fortresses.

Speaker 5 And he thinks this is brilliant because it's going to tie down the Allies. But Eisenhower and Patton just say, well, they're going to blow it up anyway.

Speaker 5 They did with Brest, and they're going to do it with every port. And

Speaker 5 we still have the beaches, and we have one mulberry, and we'll get Antwerp eventually. That was Montgomery screwed up.
And the point he's making is to just bypass them.

Speaker 5 So he's got a quarter million troops, and they're of no value. So, yes, they're running out of troops because they've lost three to five million people.
They have a lot of people back home.

Speaker 5 So if you're a crew, an 88 millimeter crew on the Eastern Front and you're blowing apart T-34 tanks at

Speaker 5 a mile and a half, two miles, and you're giving the Tigers and Panthers protection, and suddenly you get a call and saying the 8th Air Force is bombing all of German cities.

Speaker 5 You bring that battalion back because we need the 88 millimeter to point its gun straight up as a flat gun. They have to withdraw 10,000 88 millimeter troops just to protect the skies of Germany.

Speaker 5 And Stalin will give us no credit for that. But once we start to do that, and once Germany starts to run out of manpower, then it starts to accelerate at the end of 1940 after the Battle of Balls.

Speaker 5 I just want to finish on one thing, and that is December, first, second week in December, Hitler's intelligence says that there are two green divisions and everybody in the Ardennes as they're approaching the Rhine area and it's cold and they're not trained and Germany still has about a million frontline troops and he can secretly withdraw them from the eastern and he can go in complete radio silence and the weather is predicted to be snowy and cloudy and rainy.

Speaker 5 No

Speaker 5 Allied air power, no

Speaker 5 No information about what Germans Germans start doing everything by notes and messengers. And they surprise the Allies.
They break right through these two green divisions.

Speaker 5 And their plan is to go all the way to Antwerp and cut the British off, like they did in World War I, and tried to in World War I, and what they did in 1940 when they did cut the British and the American, and then keep those two armies separate.

Speaker 5 And if they were to have a surprise, maybe they would have numerical parity in certain areas, and they couldn't be enforced.

Speaker 5 And then they could get to Antwerp and blow up the harbor, steal all the goods, steal the oil, get American supplies, blow up the big port that the Allies.

Speaker 5 And for the first week, it looks like that's going to happen. They go anywhere from 40 to 60 miles inland, and we take Belgian towns.
And then, of course, George Patton is told to cut off the bulge.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 he says, let me go straight to the base of the bulge. And while they're going east, I will go straight north and cut it off.
And then they'll be encircled. And that would have saved everybody.

Speaker 5 But they said, if you do that, they're going to go another, the balloon, if you cut the balloon off, they're still going to have enough air to go another five or ten miles. And

Speaker 5 we can't allow that because they're taking areas that we promised would never be retaken. Well, they nixed that.
So he goes up to Baston, saves Baston.

Speaker 5 But then for the next all of January, they have to push the bulge back. And they lose more dead, wounded, pushing the bulge back to the Rhine than they did in the initial fighting.

Speaker 5 That's one of the greatest tra tragedies of the war that they did not allow Patton to try to slice the bulge off its base.

Speaker 5 So then in January the Germans are back where they were in February and then they have about a month and a half where the Allies are trying to push, push, push to the Rhine River and find a bridge or bridge it themselves.

Speaker 5 And they are going to pay a terrible price. They're going to get into when they get across and earlier, they're going to get into forest type of fighting, deep forest.

Speaker 5 They're going to meet generals like General Model Modo, and they're going to lose a lot of troops.

Speaker 3 One last thing, I always wondered about this Mariana, Great Mariana, turkey shoot. How much damage did it do to the Japanese military?

Speaker 3 And is this when the Japanese are deciding to have kamikaze bombers?

Speaker 5 That's the first time that they start to see see kamikazes.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 they're very worried about it for a variety of reasons. They start, and it inflicts a lot of damage.
It's not going to be like Okinawa, where they sink 17 ships and kill 5,000 sailors.

Speaker 5 But when you start to, when that,

Speaker 5 when Nimitz

Speaker 5 and Halsey and Struance and everybody start to look at,

Speaker 5 they were able to shoot most of them down, but they start to look at certain things about it that start to worry them. First of all, all, they have all these zeros

Speaker 5 that were preeminent from 1939 to 42, but now they're obsolete. And they have new fighters, but not the raid-in and new ones that are about comparable with a helicopter, but they haven't come into it.

Speaker 5 So they thought that these would be easy to shoot down.

Speaker 5 But now they're either coming right along, they either come in clouds and mass and they go straight down at a high speed, or they go in right above under the radar, right above the waves, or they do both at the same time.

Speaker 5 Second thing they understand is if the zero had a range, meaning that's their radius, of about 700 miles, then they had to come back home 700 miles. So they only had a total range of 1,500.

Speaker 5 But if you're on a

Speaker 5 one-way mission, you don't have to come home. So their range doubles.
So they can now reach the American fleet. from not just bases in Okinawa, but from the mainland.

Speaker 5 The next thing is it's one thing to dive down on a carrier and drop a bomb. It's very hard to hit it when you're going three or four hundred miles or slap.

Speaker 5 But if you are a suicide bomber, you are basically a cruise missile.

Speaker 5 And the pilot's life is the control system, his brain. And so he can maneuver everything.
He doesn't have to drop a bomb. Got a 500-pound bomb.
He just keeps it on the plane.

Speaker 5 And all he has to do is find a way to go down. If you shoot him, you can't stop him.
In the old days, as he's coming in, you could shoot and get him off course and the bomb would miss.

Speaker 5 But now you've got to blow the whole thing up right as they come down. So it's a cruise missile.
Only it's better than a cruise missile because the pilots can adjust.

Speaker 5 It's kind of like a modern-day drone. And so it's got a double the range, and they all have their funerals before they take off.

Speaker 5 They have a ritual sake drink, and they're escorted by sophisticated fighters, and almost none of them turn back. And they coordinate there.

Speaker 5 And they learned during the Marianas that this is going to be a terrible thing.

Speaker 3 All right, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break, and then we'll come back and talk a little bit more about international politics, the Iran and Trump, and then also the South American assassinations and assassination attempts of political individuals.

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Speaker 3 Welcome back to the Victor Davis-Hanson Show. You can find Victor's podcasts on YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, and Apple these days.
So I hope everybody is joining us there who like the video version.

Speaker 3 So, Victor, I was wondering your thoughts.

Speaker 3 The recent thing in Iran is that the International Atomic Energy Agency has told us or let out, I think a week or more ago, that Iran has enough visible material or enriched uranium to build nine bombs.

Speaker 3 Does this change anything in what's going on in the U.S.?

Speaker 5 Everybody's arguing over the level of enrichment. They say they are up to 60% enrichment,

Speaker 5 but they have the ability to go to 90% in case of 10 or 12 bombs, and nobody knows whether they have done that yet.

Speaker 5 What's disturbing to the Israelis and us is that they keep finding areas that they didn't know about before from informants.

Speaker 5 And so if the United States were to preempt or Israel was to preempt and hit their nuclear facilities, they wouldn't be sure that there's not three or four bombs.

Speaker 5 And because Rafanjani is in the past, one of the prior prime ministers said it's a one-bomb state. He had a point.

Speaker 5 I mean, the Iranians have been very macabre about that. They have said, we like the idea that half the Jews are in one state because it's a one-bomb state.
We can get rid of them.

Speaker 5 So Donald Trump keeps saying that he doesn't want to do this. It's going to be a terrible choice.
But the Iranians are not going to give up their nuclear program.

Speaker 5 They look at what happened to Libya, just to take one example. In 2006, Qaddafi had all these centrifuges.
Nobody had the same discussion. He's crazy.
If he has a bomb, what will we do?

Speaker 5 And then he gave it up because he was scared about what happened to Saddam. He gave up his nuclear program.
I was in Libya in 2007 when I met Americans that were out looking for centrifuges.

Speaker 5 And they were staying at a hotel owned by the Maltese. But my point is that

Speaker 5 once he gave up the nuclear

Speaker 5 card, Gaddafi was removed from power by the British and the French when they bombed it. And so my point is that Iran knows if they give up the nuclear thing completely that

Speaker 5 some country could we could get rid of them very quickly. And their people could get rid of them very quickly.
So they're not going to give it up.

Speaker 5 And that means I think we have a rendezvous with a big decision sometime between August and October.

Speaker 5 And that will be Donald Trump will exhaust every measure, and then we'll see why he's doing this new 2.0 Iran deal, given he trashed the original one.

Speaker 5 And his critics say that he's naive and he just wants to be a Nobel Prize winner. His supporters say, no, he's got a MAGA base.
He's got to deal with a MAGA neo-isolationist.

Speaker 5 He wants to show them that he exhausted every diplomatic avenue.

Speaker 5 And same thing with it. But one way or the other, if you think that it's an existential threat, then it's going to have to be taken out.
And that's going to be done in the fall.

Speaker 5 And that's going to cause a big riff here at home because the economy will be roaring, I think, given all the investment tax cuts will be in. And then you'll have a disruption in the world oil market.

Speaker 5 Once you start bombing, you don't know what's going to happen. And the MAGA base, JD Van, Tucker Carlson, Don Jay, all of those people have said they don't want this to happen.

Speaker 5 And Israel, one way or the other, is going to be blamed because they'll say the Jews did it. But

Speaker 5 it's going to be a very volatile time time this autumn.

Speaker 3 This Washington Free Beacon had a story that said that Iran is going to meet the Jacksonians in America.

Speaker 3 And that meant, according to the story, that what would happen, if I could extrapolate from what their position was, is that they're going to hit them and they're going to hit them hard so they can have it quick and over with because that's how Jackson, let's not get too involved.

Speaker 3 Let's just take out the problem as fast as possible.

Speaker 5 If you were going to do it, people look to what the Israelis did with Saddam Hussein's reactor in 19, I think it was 80 or 81, and what they did to Bashar Assad's nuclear reactor.

Speaker 5 And it was a clean sweep. There were no others.

Speaker 5 But this is different. And if you were going to do it, you're going to have to get a week to 10 days of diplomatic cover.
And you're going to have to have all your resources.

Speaker 5 And you have to be on guard.

Speaker 5 Because if you start doing this and China goes into Taiwan or Russia starts to do another Kiev Thunder Road, you're going to be in big trouble because you're going to have to deal with multi-crises.

Speaker 5 But if you're going to do it, you're going to have to take everything out so that they don't recoup.

Speaker 5 And just for good measure, you're going to have to, it seems to me, their missile defenses are being rebuilt. You're going to have to take all of them out again.

Speaker 5 You're going to have to take their seaports out. You're going to have to take all their airfields out.
You're going to have to make sure that they are emasculated militarily.

Speaker 5 It could take two or three weeks, and then you can imagine the domestic upheaval here, what we see in LA, the riots, at least something like that.

Speaker 5 Because we know the left sympathizes with Iran, the Palestinians, Hamas, Hezbollah, and they will have no shame in demonstrating on behalf of a wicked theocracy that's attacked by it.

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Speaker 3 So Victor, let's turn to the Latin American scene. And recently, I think four or five days ago, the candidate for the Colombian presidency, the right-wing one, Miguel Uribe,

Speaker 3 there was an assassination attempt and he, in fact, got shot.

Speaker 5 And I was wondering your thoughts on typical young charismatic guy, Sirius

Speaker 5 Bolonzaro, had been stabbed, you remember, during his campaign? And was it the Ecuador president that was also attacked?

Speaker 5 You start to get a little paranoid because when you start adding them up, Steve Scalise and Donald Trump two assassinations, and then you see these assassination attempts.

Speaker 5 It's kind of the international left is really, I mean, they always, I mean, they always said that Lee Harvey Oswald was a right-winger. He wasn't.
He was a left-winger.

Speaker 5 The people that tried to kill Ronald Reagan were left-wing or crazy left-wing.

Speaker 5 So I think what I'm getting at is all the

Speaker 5 The left-wing, we are moral. We are for equality of result, we're for the little guy, we're for this, It all f filters down.
And that these people are horrible, they're oligarchs, they're garbage.

Speaker 5 I mean, think about the United States, garbage.

Speaker 5 Biden called half the country garbage, chumps, gregs.

Speaker 5 Hillary called them deplorables and irredeemables. You know, Obama called them

Speaker 5 guess you call them clingers. Peter Strzok and Lisa Pates said that you could smell them in Walmart.

Speaker 5 So when you start doing that to half the country, or you start demonizing people, or you say that these South American people are Hitler and da da da. Same thing happened in Europe.

Speaker 5 There's, you know, European right-wing people are threatened all the time, and nobody stops it. And so it just filters down and it lowers the bar of acceptability.
Same thing with the riots.

Speaker 5 I mean, if you make your hero

Speaker 5 Obigar Garcia, and you're told he's an M13 member, and you're told that he slapped and threatened to kill his wife, and you are told there's serious questions whether he really did, was in danger about his grandmother when he couldn't be, but that he had been involved himself in a plot to kill people.

Speaker 5 And if there are serious allegations that he was a trafficker on a hundred different trips, and there are some suggestions that he was trafficking women as well, and you make him a hero,

Speaker 5 or you make Mohammed Soleiman's family a hero when we learn that he released a video to his family and said that jihad was more important to him than his family. They knew all about him.

Speaker 5 And then, you know, as I said, Mangioni, the killer, you make him a hero. Then a lot of people start to think, I could be a hero.
And you say that you legitimize violence.

Speaker 5 So you're in the street, and Gavin Newsom says that ICE is reckless and it's chaotic. And Karen Bass says to people, this won't stand.
We're not going to let this stand.

Speaker 5 And Representative Torres, I guess her name is, she says, get the F out of here. That's our Maxine Olson tries to go into it.

Speaker 5 What I'm getting at is they create the atmospherics that allow people to come out of the woodwork and shoot people

Speaker 5 on the assumption that they will be they're either delusional and they think it's okay and there won't be any ramifications, or they think if they're caught, they'll be famous.

Speaker 5 They'll get somebody like Taylor Lorenz to interview Mangioni. She said, you know, basically he was cute.

Speaker 5 Remember the Sarnoff brothers? They put the one of the brothers on Rolling Stone as if he was a heartthrob killer.

Speaker 3 It seems to me that in Latin America, Mele, who is the Argentinian president, should be very careful because it seems like the target is right-wing individuals.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it is. It is.

Speaker 5 But it is here, too. It is here, too.
It's the idea is, well, they're greedy, and so you can kill them with exemption. Left-wing people are generous and don't touch them.

Speaker 3 Well, I have two stories left, and we can do one or the other because we are on a little bit of a time limit here.

Speaker 3 Rubio is

Speaker 3 imposing sanctions on judges who issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu, and that was on judges on the International Criminal Court. But maybe more interesting is the state Stacey Abrams

Speaker 3 funded or gave $20 million to a friend of hers as or a lawyer friend of hers. And she's out there.

Speaker 5 And into it until they started

Speaker 5 $2 billion in affiliate

Speaker 5 NGO money that she was in charge of. She is going to go down, really, when you start to look at this, is one of the biggest fraud and crooks in our generation.

Speaker 5 $20 million to one of her friends in a law firm for what? For voting irregularity or something.

Speaker 5 You get on election denialism. This is a woman who, for two years, said that she was the governor of Georgia.

Speaker 5 She lost like 50,000 votes to Kemp, and yet she went around and she was feed by everybody as the real, you know, as the real governor.

Speaker 5 So she's never really won anything since she was a state representative. She's failed in everything she's run for, and yet she's a heartthrob of a left for some reason.
I don't know why that is,

Speaker 5 but she's not very competent. She's not an appealing character.
She's hard left. But she makes she's up there with Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and grifting.
And

Speaker 5 how she gets away with it, I don't know.

Speaker 5 We're dealing with a

Speaker 5 2.1, somewhere between 1.9 and 2.1 budget deficit. And we just, that crazy Biden team printed $7 trillion

Speaker 5 before they were done. And that money was just lavished on all of these left-wing people.
And nobody's asking for it to be paid back. There's no accounting.

Speaker 5 So there should be an investigation of her and her financial impropriety. There really should be.

Speaker 3 It makes you wonder whether this was a girlfriend of hers or not at $20 million.

Speaker 5 I don't think she's gay.

Speaker 3 I don't know. I have no idea.
Doesn't she write? Oh, she just writes salacious novels.

Speaker 5 She wrote her pornographic heterosexual novels.

Speaker 5 I think Tucker Carlson read one on the air

Speaker 5 or some song.

Speaker 3 Yeah, something like that. Well, Victor, let's then turn to some

Speaker 3 comments from our viewers on YouTube. And this is on the Julie Banderis interview and lots of people loved Julie.
I have to say reading down there she's great but here are some of the better ones.

Speaker 3 Hillsdale College outstanding because you were talking about education.

Speaker 3 I have two grandchildren there presently. I keep forgetting their great-grand great grands

Speaker 3 from my siblings. They love it and they were so smart before they entered Hillsdale.
Now they're unbelievably smart. Book smart as well as street smart.

Speaker 3 I'm a very proud grandma, and that is from Suzanne Roberts.

Speaker 5 6745. I was in my graduate way.
Everybody's smiling. They're very happy.

Speaker 3 Michael Wilson, 7971, says, this is a good chance, a good change of pace. I really like Julie, and it's good to hear what she's like on a more personal level.
Always, I'm glad to hear from Victor.

Speaker 3 Thank you both for doing this. I thought that was what was interesting about that interview as well, but it was interesting to hear Julie on her personal level.
So you did a good job on that.

Speaker 5 I got some criticism on the David Mammoth that I talked too much, but it was billed as a conversation, not an interview. But I might have to watch that next time.
I got criticisms when I did

Speaker 5 with the Stephen Quay when I asked him questions, and I did some other ones where people said, oh, that wasn't even an interview.

Speaker 5 You just asked a question, then you just went to sleep and they went on. So you have to find some balance.

Speaker 3 Some commented on other things you were talking about, and one of them was the airlines and people dressing on the airlines.

Speaker 3 And this Steve First1512 says: when the airlines start treating passengers other than like cattle, maybe people will start dressing up for flights again.

Speaker 3 Given the probability of delayed and canceled flights, getting bumped and the like, you're damn right. I'm wearing, I'm dressing comfortably.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 Jigs, VJHJ, KBF, I'm not sure what that is, says, young people dress like slobs because of celebrity culture. Look at Justin Bieber or Biber who goes out.
Look how Justin Biber goes out in public.

Speaker 3 Sweatshirt, sweatpants, socks, and slides. So they're just doing it from example.

Speaker 5 So thank you, our audience, for the comments.

Speaker 5 They all have good points. I detest flying.
The new thing now is it's happened to me twice where you're sitting there and somebody goes like this,

Speaker 5 right when you're boarding and you sit down. This happened to me on a Detroit flight to Pillsdale and one to Miami Beach.
People,

Speaker 5 can I ask you something?

Speaker 5 My partner and I

Speaker 5 kind of just bought a ticket maybe a week ago, and he's right

Speaker 5 behind me.

Speaker 5 And I'd like to have him,

Speaker 5 I have a window and he's behind me in the window so I'd like him to sit next to me and then you could have his window seat I said I don't want a window seat I like to be able to go to the bathroom easy without waking and I bought my ticket two months

Speaker 5 does that mean you're not going to let my husband and I sit together I said well you could have done what I did and would you change if I asked you and she said well it depends on what it is but that's really common now that's just part of the time just switching around well thank you Victor, for all of your wisdom today.

Speaker 3 And thank you to the audience for choosing to join us on this weekend episode of the Victor Davis Nansen Show.

Speaker 5 Thank you very much, everybody.