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That is Victor Davis-Hanson, who is the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marsha Busky Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College.

And Victor is a syndicated columnist, a military historian, a philologist, a rancher.

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The web address is VictorHanson.com.

We are recording on Saturday, November 30th, and this particular episode will be up on Thursday, December 5th.

Plenty of things as usual to

talk about.

Victor's written a

really wonderful.

Do you ever write anything that's not wonderful, Victor?

Yes, I do.

Look at book reviews of the case for Trump.

You mean the bestseller?

Yes.

Go read the bulwark.

I was called by a former editor at Commentary, a Nazi, basically.

I remember because I.

Gabriel Schoenfeld.

I attacked him in National Review when he did that.

Yes.

He was a very good editor.

I don't know why he...

I can see why he disagreed with it, but I thought it was on toward of him to suggest that I was a Nazi and was anti-Semitic.

Yeah.

Well, drunk derangement syndrome is a real thing.

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Hansen.

I talked about it before the time I called you

Victor David Hansen in front of Sarah Pale.

And oh, that was so embarrassing.

I like Sarah Pale.

I feel kind of bad.

Did you see what she, just to interrupt you a minute, did you see when she sort of said, she said somebody asked her if she was up for a position in the Trump, and she said something to the effect that the mama mega net was forgotten or passed over?

Yeah, wasn't she, there was a picture of her against the Capitol building.

She was in D.C.

I wonder what that was about.

They were so unfair to her.

I think she was, she should be given a position.

She was very competent.

When we visited her, Victor, so this was a National Review cruise too.

I remember Dick Morris kind of hijacked that interview.

He did.

I like Dick Morris.

Yeah, he was all over her about.

By the way, this is a year before John McCain.

2007, I think it was.

It was.

And we were invited to the governor's mansion for a reception.

And remember, she won in

2006.

She was probably the only bright light on the election that year.

She had a 92%

favorable rating in Alaska.

I just remember she was, people said

she was stunning beautifully.

Remember that?

She was.

She was.

And I remember one person said, what does Mr.

Palin does?

And she had a twinkle in her eye, and

she kind of

flirtatiously twinked.

And she said, he's in the oil business.

And everybody thought he was a big oil executive.

So that was good.

And

she, all you have to know about that ill-fated, ill-crossed 2008 campaign, guess who was one of her handlers?

Wait a minute.

Could she be on MSNBC?

Yes, she is.

The original

Benedict Arnold, Nicole Wallace.

Nicole Wallace, yeah.

Yeah, she sabotaged that campaign.

Gosh, she's still licking her wounds.

She'll be doing it

for the end of the day.

Oh, I think they'll all be out.

All of those people will be out.

Jory Reed is screaming and yelling, but there's no money there anymore.

They've lost half their audience.

Yeah.

It's not a sustainable proposition.

Let the free fall continue, and as we've said,

maybe Elon Musk will find some change his couch and buy it and convert it.

I wouldn't wish that on anybody.

Hey, Victor, you have, I need to mention VictorHanson.com, The Blade of Perseus.

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Folks should be subscribing.

Okay, so you have a syndicated, your weekly syndicated column, and the title is Universities Have a 2025 Rendezvous with Reality.

It begins.

Universities have suffered a cataclysmic decline in public approval and support.

A Gallup poll this year found that only 36% of Americans polled either expressed a great deal or quite a lot of confidence.

Higher education wants the agreed-on touchstone to upward mobility.

Victor,

the reckoning is coming, in part because of demographics, and in part because of a failure to deliver on the product they promise.

And there are other reasons.

Tell us about your

perfect storm.

It really is.

You have a

birth rate that's gone from 2.1 just 25 years ago to 1.6.

There's fewer students.

You've got a

student loan loan program that subsidizes education to the tune of $1.7 trillion in outstanding loans.

I think, Jack, that 45% of students graduate with debt.

And we know that

almost 20% now are in arrears.

They're not paying the loan back.

And that affects everything from the age of marriage.

I discussed that in the Dying Citizen, to the first

age of your first child to home home ownership, they've all been delayed or retarded because of that, that huge debt.

The universities we know now almost doubled the rate of inflation until recently on their annual room board and tuition

escalation.

Once they knew they had a

captive audience that the federal government was guaranteeing

And there were not low interest loans.

They're six and seven percent now, some of them.

So

and then you look at the bias.

Stanford University, I think, was around 94%

of the faculty poll that they voted for Biden in 2020.

I think 96% gave money to Harris this time around, 2024.

This is the university that censored Scott Atlas and Jay Bachari.

That's curious, Jack.

What do you do when

you say that a colleague with a PhD, an MD, a full professor, a Hoover Farlows, Freeman's Bogley Institute,

distinguished publications like Jay Bacharya,

is incompetent, is malicious, has blood on his hands, and then you try to censure him.

And he turns out to be the head of a $50 billion agency whose primary purpose is to give

medical grants to universities and other concerns, but mostly to universities, of which Stanford wants $500 million

from the person that they tried to destroy, psychologically, intellectually, spiritually, career, everything.

I don't know what they will do, but I do know that about 25% of that money that goes to these universities, A, they charge a much higher overhead than private research tanks.

and corporations, etc.

So their overhead is gouging the government.

And number two,

a lot of it now is DEI.

In other words, it's not going to what is the effect of,

I don't know, diazonon on pregnant women as far as birth defects.

It is

to what effect do Hispanic people feel that in the surgery center their opinion is not accorded what

it should be.

Kind of like DEI,

race, race, race, race, gender, gender, gender.

So So that is going to be very interesting.

I talked about Stanford, you know, and then we had all these campuses have had, we had a 900-page Jack

report on anti-Semitism by liberal faculty, and it was damning.

It said that Jewish students felt intimidated, frightened, and why not?

We had the pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas encampment.

There's supposed to be no overnight camping, four months with impunity.

They trashed the president's office.

There's a lot of felonies still outstanding for those people.

They defaced columns and a colonnade of historic sandstone.

They shouted down Judge Duncan.

A DIA coordinator hijacked his lecture.

This is the,

I think I mentioned that I woke up once and there was a helicopter sound and it was a paparazzi taking pictures of Sam Bankman Friedman and his

two Stanford law professor parents who both were under investigation for taking, what was it, $10 million

per year?

Did they dodge the bullet?

Did the parents dodge the bullet?

I don't know.

I don't know.

Before the bullet was launched, he was often referred to approvingly as an advisor to her.

to his son, who was one of the wealthiest men in the world.

And she, the mother, was bragged upon as a bundler of stealthy money in Silicon Valley who wanted really radical candidates but didn't want their name associated.

So she bundled.

And they were under investigation.

I don't know what happened to them.

I know that some

law associates put up the bail, but I don't know if they lost that bail or not when he was returned to prison for violating some of the conditions of his bail.

But they lived about, I don't know, a mile or so from my apartment.

So I would, you know, there was a lot of crowd for a while when he was wandering around the backyard or wherever he was there.

But that's Stanford now.

And I didn't even get into my close friend, dear friend Scott Atlas.

They just said they wouldn't

lift the censor, as I pointed out to Sammy.

They censored him, and they were going to bring it out.

There was a group that was ashamed of that, really good people, and they asked to resend that, or at least to have him

be accorded due process.

They wouldn't even let him come in and explain.

And then they said, well, we can't do it before the election because it would help Trump.

Think of that, Jack.

You're a Stanford professor that no one has ever heard of.

And you think, wow,

I am so brilliant, such a genius, so well known to the people in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

If I vote in the Stanford Faculty Senate, to rescind the Scott Atlas, that will swing the entire election to Trump because I am so influential.

Think about that attitude.

What kind of mindset could even conceive of such an absurdity?

Then they came out back after the election.

They said, nah, we thought it over.

We don't want to.

He's still censored.

Excuse me, was he part of a separate action?

Because

you and Scott and Neil Ferguson were part of one action.

But

Scott was a separate thing also.

They were riding high because the medical school censored him, the faculty senate censored him, then after, that was earlier,

and then after July 6,

they were really high.

They thought that they were going.

So David Palumbo, who was the chairman of the English department at Stanford and was the nominal founder of Stanford Antifa, and had been notorious for taking well over 60 students out on a local bridge across the bay at

commute time and getting at least 60 or so arrested for causing, I think, 13.

He was our accuser, and he had accused.

My fault, as I said earlier, was that I was on Tucker too much.

And they thought that I had not vigorously objected if Tucker or Laura questioned the integrity of the balloting in the 2020 election.

They never said that I had said that the election was stolen because they, I had to read all the transcripts, Jack.

For six weeks, they made me read all these transcripts.

And then Neil,

long ago, two or three years earlier, had said to a student, jokingly, if you're going to be on a student group that invites lectures and the left has just not played fair and got all their lectures, then maybe you should do oppo research on who they are.

That was kind of a joke.

And then the next thing, you know, Neil Ferguson urges the destruction of an 18-year-old.

And they brought that back up.

against Neil.

And then we were kind of orphaned.

We didn't have any support on campus.

but boy, we had a lot of support with Rush and all the other people.

Everybody rallied to our.

I was very thankful about it, and they dropped it.

But I don't trust any of them anymore.

I have nothing to do.

The one of the thing was, it was very funny.

I would go to the, Fox would call up

and say,

Victor, you know, we're going to have you on, Laura or Tucker.

And then I'd say, well, I'm not home at the barn.

I have a studio in the barn here at the farm but I'm at work so I'll go with the Stanford studio and they said yeah and I had done that Hoover has a studio but it closes at five o'clock usually so if I was doing a later show so I'd go to the Stanford studio and the guy would say uh uh uh uh uh

you have to write out in advance everything you're gonna say

and then Fox people would call me and say, are these people serious?

We've never heard this.

I said, I know it.

Well,

we're not going to let you come on.

I said, you shouldn't let me me on.

I don't want to come on.

So then I made some calls and complaints.

And somebody called me and said, oh, this was a mixed communication.

We're sorry.

We don't censor people.

We have people left and right.

And I said, well, you should because the CNN people, I've been in there and I've heard them in your studio and they're ranting about Russian collusion and the laptop.

So they said, no, it won't happen again.

Sure enough, next week I go back there and they said, we're sorry.

You have to write out everything and what you're going to say to be pre-approved.

I said, you people are for free speech, I thought.

Well, well, well, well, you know, so I just said, I'm done.

Zero, bomb, kaboom, no more.

So I don't do the Stanford Studio anymore.

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Victor, back on the column, and you mentioned you brought up Jay.

What if

for some reason that Victor Davis-Hansen was in the shoes of Jay and in control of $50 billion

of

grants?

First of all, there may be the case that there's just too much money going out the door of the federal government to win.

Elon will cut that out.

Yeah.

But what leverage applicable to a college,

a university such as Stanford, would

that money be used for?

What would you want to see conceded?

Well, it's not what I want to.

Yeah,

I think what Jay will do, and the Department of Education in particular will do

is

Ms.

McMahon and McMcMahon?

Linda McMahon.

Yes.

They will say that if you're going to receive federal money, then you have to honor the Bill of Rights.

So you cannot suppress free expression or speech, your university.

You cannot shout down speakers.

And if you have people accused of particular thought crimes or sexual, you have to give them due process.

We know the Supreme Court has given you a little bit of leeway, but as far as we're concerned, this is a privilege, not an obligation.

So, you universities must do that.

Then, I think

parallel to this, but connected, will be in general, the administration is, I think, will say something along the following.

This mega endowment is out of hand.

50 billion Harvard, 35 billion Stanford, 40 billion Yale.

You know what?

You guys are getting $3, $4 billion

a year in income, and you're not paying any income taxes.

Not paying any.

So we would like you to pay a billion dollars at least, or 20%, 25%, 30% on your endowment, because

you do things that are political.

You're not diverse.

We don't care if you're all left-wing, but you start to censor people on their political beliefs.

You ban their facilities based on their political belief.

You You are political organizations and our opinion.

So we're going to try this experiment.

And then I think

in addition to that, and this may sound controversial, I think they're going to take a hard look at the student loan position.

They're going to say, you know what?

It's not that cheap, five or six, and you're putting these kids for the rest of their life in hop.

for 20 years.

And when you go buy a car in California, you've got to sign 15 pages.

And if if you're taking out a loan for that car, you are warned, this is how much it'll be, this is how long it'll take.

You people lend out 10 times the sum of that.

And you don't apprise these 18-year-olds of what type of debt they are incurring, what will be the permanent

interest rate explicitly, and what will be the likely earning

potential once you graduate in four years, five years, six, seven, in chemistry, biology, ethnic studies, race studies, whatever.

They don't give them any information.

So, what they should do is say, we're going to get out of the student loan business, but we're going to expect that these elite universities with these huge endowments

pledge their endowment for the security of the loan.

So, you want to go to Stanford University, you will take a loan out against their $35 billion endowment.

And I guarantee you, Jack, that they will have zero tolerance for Mr.

Spaghetti Arm and pro-NT for Shaudi, an anti-Semitic student who takes five years to graduate, da, da, da, da, da.

And I know that the name is still valuable as far as a cattle brown that's marketable, but they understand

that

not so much as in the past.

But of all these universities, especially these small liberal arts colleges that don't have the resources, but they're very very hard left and very intolerant.

If they have to guarantee their own students' loans, people will

have a, they will not have the money to hire all the DEI people, all of these hyphenated, you know, gender studies, leisure studies, environmental studies, peace studies,

race studies, Asian studies, Chicano studies, black studies, white studies.

None.

And they will have to graduate people in four years so they can get their money back.

And I think they should also take a look at the schools of education and predicate a lot of federal money and say, you know what?

We strongly urge states to give

graduates a choice.

They can either get a master's degree in an academic subject, and that qualifies you, as we all know, for parochial or private schools.

It doesn't even have to have that.

If you have a BA, you can teach at a private school.

It's much better.

But if you want to teach at a public school and you need a credential for that extra year, we'll have an accelerated MA program choice.

And I guarantee you, 75% of recent graduates would rather get a master's in their major than go through that indoctrination year-long in the School of Education.

And that would be very valuable.

So there's a lot of things they can do.

I would like to see an

a national exit test, SAT, at the end.

Just say, you know what, we are bringing back the SAT for entry, and because we don't trust the relative value of a high school GPA, we don't think that people like Victor who graduate from Selma High School with a 3.99,

that is worth as much as Bill over here that graduates from, you know,

Connecticut.

Yes, St.

Paul's with a 3.2, and he's right about, they were right about that.

So just as we don't trust

GPA for being the standard that adjudicates excellence, we have to have the SAT to help.

So, too,

we don't trust the BA.

We think that a BA from Yale or Harvard is a joke now.

And we want to find out what they know before we can certify it.

So, we're going to just have a national exit SAT.

So, we urge all the universities that when you graduate, you take a SAT test.

Take the same one.

And let's just make sure they they don't do worse after four years of your indoctrination than they did when they applied.

They would go crazy, Jeff.

They would go insane.

But it would be very valuable for an employer to say, hmm, he went to Stanford and he had a 770 when he applied.

And oh my god, it's 720 now.

What happened?

Yeah.

Victor, I'm shocked you had only a 3.99.

I don't know what.

I had a B and P E.

Oh, there you go.

That's a long story, but there was a person who was a rival for Valledictorian.

Yeah.

And I was bad in,

no, actually, I had two B's, two subjects, calculus, and I was on the

baseball team, and I quit.

And they made you,

they judged you in all these different, ten different sports.

And

I mouthed off to the coach who was teaching PE.

I didn't particularly like him.

We were arguing about the, I believe this, I was 16, and I was arguing with him about the New Deal.

And he said the New Deal saved America.

And

anyway, I didn't disagree with him, but he thought it was, anyway, I did a high

broad jump and he took two feet off because I was a big mouth.

And I got a B plus, and then I got a B and

calculate.

Yeah.

And then the other guy who was,

I shouldn't say this, he may be listening, I doubt it, but was very uncoordinated.

He would have got an F in competitive PE, but you know what they did?

They gave him credit for taping the team.

So he went in and he was the son of an administrator at high school, so he volunteered to tape our ankles on the football team.

Oh, kind of tape him.

Yes, they gave him an A, so he got a straight A.

I didn't care anywhere.

I bet he had spaghetti arms, too.

That would be a little bit generous.

You know what?

He's very sprite.

I liked him.

I liked him.

He was very bright.

There was a group of people they called themselves the nerds in this school that was pretty wild.

It was tough school, working-class kids, a mixture of small-town America, the Oklahoma diaspora in the 60s.

that really hadn't fully acculturated, and then probably 30, 40%, maybe 50% Hispanic, many people, you know, first generation or born in Mexico.

And you put all that together, and it was pretty, you had to fight a lot.

But my point is, there's five or six kids that we call nerds.

And nerds in 1969, 70, 71 was a guy who had a, remember those little pocket protectors?

Plastic?

And they had three or four different colored pins.

And then you remember they had that, they actually made like a leather scabbard on your your belt for a slide rule, and they would wear it like a Roman gladius, a sword.

And then

all those guys trained up.

They were

sticking out of the pocket protection.

And then they had those little, they brought, they wore briefcases.

They carried a briefcase.

All the guys,

the gang members and all the poor white guys, when they walked by, they would kick their.

Yeah, and then they would, there was one other thing they did was they they always were in PE and people would rough them up so their glasses were always breaking.

So they'd put a band-aid between, right above their nose, you know, tape their glasses to protect it.

Yeah.

And I was just wild.

I mean, it was, everybody says that schools are out of control now.

I can remember.

Well, no one was getting shot back.

No one was getting shot, but

if the pack or the mob called you a nerd

or you were a pansy, they can use the word pansy.

If you were a pansy, if you were a pansy, then you were going to be, you either had a long four years.

Yeah, it was a very long four years.

Well, Victor,

still, I have one more thing to bring up about your column because this 2025

year of reckoning, I think, back on the demographic stuff.

But we'll get to that.

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So, So, Victor,

last quick thing about the column you wrote.

I was talking to,

where I work at Anfil,

we help some colleges with their fundraising and development.

And one particular school, and the kind of schools we help are, let's call them, authentic.

They believe in something.

So

I find that they will be immune to what is coming.

But still, this one particular place is pulled back, like, wow, we're going to face it.

we're going to get through this, but there is going to be a huge fall off.

There's already 2 million less students now in college from, I think, from 2019 to now.

And then the demographic drought

is hitting.

So I think in 2025,

and then more so in the following year, we're going to see a lot of colleges just shutting their doors.

And what college will not be shutting their doors, but expanding?

Small liberal arts college?

Hillsdale.

Record, record $300 million in fundraising.

And endowment, well over a billion, all brand new facilities.

I think their applications are running 14 to 1.

For acceptances?

Yeah.

I don't know if those are multiple, you know, sometimes people apply to multiple places online, but it was just an enormous interest.

I think one of their problems right now is small liberal arts colleges, private with small endowments, are going broke.

And they're offering Hillsdale the whole shebang.

You know, here's this little, take it over.

And they don't, I think they're at a crux where they don't know, do we want to have a Hillsdale in every state?

Will that dilute the mission statement and product?

Can we count on that?

Or should we just pull our horns in and just concentrate on the mother ship here in Michigan?

So it's a tough call because in one way, they've hit on a paradigm that is so successful.

Every time I go there, I go there, I've gone there for 21 years, I just, when I get on the ground there, I feel relaxed.

I go on that campus, I thought there's not going to be somebody come up and say something.

If I leave my books in the coffee shop, they're going to be there.

If I go teach and I'm so,

because I am absent-minded, if I leave

you know, my cell phone on the podium, it's going to be there.

When I was at Cal State Fresno, my wife bought me a leather jacket to emulate a bomber jacket.

I was teaching in a class, same classroom for three hours.

I literally put the jacket on my back, walked away to use the restroom across the hall, came back 90 seconds later, and it was stolen.

And that happened to me a lot.

So my point is that there was something about that college, the ethos.

It was 360 degrees, cultural, social, economic, everything.

Those students, they're healthy, they're nice.

they've done something or they attract somebody.

They do both.

They attract a particular Hillsdale profile.

You know, and when I talk to the students there, they're polite, they're industrious, and it's just.

Well, there's a lot of middling, you know, we josh about faith in Catholic schools, but yeah, there are a lot of middling Catholic colleges that have

because they're not authentic, they're like nominal religious schools.

There's no reason to go to them.

I know, but St.

Thomas Aquinas, there is.

Well, that's not nominal.

That's actual.

Yeah, gosh, when I went down there and spoke, I was just as impressed as Hillsdale.

Gosh, the students were wonderful.

There's not that many places for parents.

I've talked to so many parents that were determined their children would try to go to the Ivy League, and they just shrugged and said, no more.

I don't care what the brand is.

And as one said to me, that brand won't even be a brand in five years, given what they're doing.

And

what they meant was that it's not just the violence, the anti-Semitism, this constant screaming and yelling, whether it's

going after a Stanford judge at Stanford or chasing students into the library or

defacing and destroying stuff at Columbia or Harvard law review guy trying to go after a Jewish student.

It's just that they're not that good.

Their faculty is not that good.

They're politicized.

And I mean that.

I mean mean that.

I mean that.

Well,

let's change our topics here to something that

I find really troubling and dangerous.

So does Chris O'Day.

Chris is a friend.

I met him at a National Review event in Chicago some years ago.

Awfully nice guy.

And he said, you know, I've got this article or two.

And, you know, we come across people like that in our lives, Victor.

I've got a book, Victor.

You know, help me get it published.

But I read it, I thought, this guy is onto something.

So

he just happens to be an expert in international logistics.

And that means shipping and

containers, etc.

And we are in a dire way here in the world because Communist China has invested in this.

And this means not only the ships, not only the containers themselves, which are kind of tracking devices, but the ports in various countries around the world and the infrastructures around the ports, which include train systems, etc.

So, China, he wrote a piece for Real Clear World

about China's port in Peru.

And Jing,

you know, he went to Peru, and yet another

foothold that China has made around the world.

So, this belt and trade system that they control, I don't know if it controls the right word yet, but essentially

international trade

and

trade, whatever you call them.

I can't think of the phrase now.

Anyway,

the seas,

China's a, this is a huge threat, and they own the Panama Canal.

They're in places in South America.

Anyway, Victor, pause it,

yeah.

You just take a map.

Just take a map and say, where are the choke points in terms of national crisis, where it's a Panama Canal

or the Eastern Mediterranean, Piraeus, or Naples,

or entry into the North Sea, wherever it is,

they're having an effort to...

What they do is they go into a place like Greece that has a lot of foreign debt,

a stagnant GDP, and they look at the Piraeus, and it's one of the most naturally

advantageous ports in the world.

At one time it was going to be a home port for the American

Sixth Fleet, excuse me.

And

they offer them beautiful port facilities and then they're in debt.

So if you go look at the Piraeus today, it's beautiful.

It's been completely rebuilt by the Chinese cruise ships.

And they're building now a rail outside to circumvent the traffic congestion.

But there's a price to it, and it's their autonomy.

They expect those countries that are so indebted.

They vote with them at the UN.

They try to push them to go away from the West.

They're dependent on Chinese products.

They hurt their domestic producers.

So they have a long view.

And it's very analogous our situation with China, especially their military billup, about 1913, 1937, 1938, where the United States looked at Europe and they saw what Germany was doing.

There was a dreadnought race between Britain and Germany.

They saw the German army, the general staff of the general army, was light years ahead of everything.

We were a constable airy.

You know, we're used to fighting on the frontier, very small, no military,

no munitions.

And the same thing, believe it or not, after we disarmed 1937-38, Germany's been rearming since 1934-35.

Our army is smaller than Portugal.

I think it was number 19th in 1939 when the war broke out.

out.

We had no planes, no tanks, and we all these Japanese and German and were formidable, and that's what China's doing.

The only question I have is,

and the historian Thucydides talks about democracies.

At a key point in the

seventh book of his history, he wants to explain the inexplicable.

And the inexplicable was: how did

this democracy, this democratic city, send 40,000 of its own

sailors and soldiers and its imperial subjects all the way 800 miles to Sicily and have the whole force

completely destroyed.

And

yet they fought on from 413 all the way to 404.

and they almost won.

And he says that, as is true of democracies, they have an amazing,

they have amazing ability to get themselves in trouble.

But once they reach a consensus, the sense of legitimacy and urgency is like none other, and they go crazy.

And it's a beautiful description of what the United States did, and Britain too, in World War II.

So I just don't know at what point

Does the America wake up and say, we can't build ships anymore.

We can't build frigates.

We can't build...

We're behind on the drone.

The Chinese have corrupted everything.

We've got to go into a Marshall Plan or something, a Carl Vinson Naval Act,

emergency mode, and maybe Trump can do it.

But

we are, it's sad to be an observer and watch this DEI and all of these extraneous, superfluous expenditures.

And then you see, gosh, where do you start, Jack?

You look at our military.

When you mentioned China, does China have a DEI program?

Maybe.

I hope they do.

I hope it's something like a Comissar program and everybody must take communist training to see if you are orthodox thinking and you still hate the yellow dog

running dog capital.

I hope, but I'm not sure they do.

And maybe they have a socialist mandatory acquisitions program.

I don't think they do.

And then I don't think their generals graduate.

from the military, go get lucrative retirements, and work for Chinese munitions companies

to use their former contacts to effect procurement.

And that doesn't mean it's bad, but it means it's not always based on real military realities as far as the corporation's concerned, if it's profitability at stake.

So I just hope that

Trump can reform the Pentagon, get rid of DI

and get procurement that gives us drones and

lots of platforms that are inexpensive and not just a few one hundred and seventy million dollar F twenty two s or something.

And then they've got to stop the estrangement attack on people who haven't been vaccinated, people who are so-called white males who like to go into combat units.

They've got to really do almost everything.

And they've got to do it quickly because the Chinese are

escalating.

And the other thing is,

I'm trying to remember who said this.

It might have been Fred Fleitz,

but somebody pointed out,

I do too.

Somebody pointed out recently that Joe Biden has the worst of both worlds.

He has weakened the military and unweaponized it, but he has this Joe from Scranton, Braggadatio, and smart Alec punkness.

So he tries to punk people, and they say, well, what do you think about Israel retaliate?

Don't.

What do you think about Iran?

Don't.

What do you think?

And he says it with a swagger.

But it's all going back to that Joe Biden.

I'm going to take Trump behind the gym and beat him up if I was in high school with him.

Remember that?

You ain't black.

Hey, junkie.

It's that tough guy insecurity.

I took that kid that made fun of my sister and I banged his dead.

Let me tell you about the corn pop saga.

I told old cornpop, I'm going to measure.

I need to measure off.

I told my friend, measure off six feet of chain so I can go take on old cornpop.

Yeah, Joe.

I and he says I remember guys like Trump in high school we remember people like you too

you were always mouthing off how tough you are and aggressive and bullish and you were a complete fraud and that's what he is because he threatens people

Putin's a colour he's a murderer no you don't treat a murderer or killer that way what you do is you build a bigger more effective military than his You get a much more efficient economy that doesn't have hyperinflation and then you sit tight.

In other words, you do what Teddy Roosevelt, you keep quiet and carry a big stick, and you don't shoot your mouth off and carry a twig.

And so that is what's scary right now, that he's been gone all over the world, and he's weak, and he's politicized and

weak in the military, but he shot his mouth off as if he's tough.

And nobody listens to him.

They love to humiliate him.

Remember Obador when he was in Mexico and Obador had to help him down off the steps?

And then Oberdor mouthed off and said, Oh, I think it's a beautiful thing.

I have sent 40 million of my people to America.

Ha ha ha.

Oh, you know what?

I tell all my immigrant citizens to be sure to vote against Republicans.

Ha ha ha.

And that's what he did.

Well, we have.

I'm going to get back to him at the end of the show, Victor, because

he pulled some nasty stunt, more than a stunt yesterday.

This is Joe Biden.

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Yeah, when I was at Victor's house, I noticed that this old letter framed on the wall, and Wellington Mara

had offered your dad, who played for, where did he play?

Your dad played for

the Pacific with Coach Stagg.

Amos Alonso Stagg.

Stagg, yes, he did.

He and his

first cousin kind of brother, Victor Hansen, were one was a tight end and one was a tight end.

It was a both tight-in

team formation, run the ball down their throat.

They were very good.

He played, he ruined his knees, but he played.

He got a lot of concussion.

But he was a big guy,

almost 6'4, you know.

Big Swede.

All right.

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We are the Danes with our brains blown out.

Oh, gosh.

Okay.

All right, Victor.

Hey, keeping on things military.

We've mentioned this every one of the last few podcasts about how elated we are given the election results.

But meanwhile, in Ukraine,

the meat grinder carries on.

And

there is talk now from the Russians and maybe others about a line being crossed.

So here's from the Daily Mail.

NATO and the U.S.

are at full war with Russia and have crossed all red lines by allowing Ukraine to use long-range missiles.

Putin official warns.

That Putin official, by the the way, Victor, is the former president, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, who

he's playing the role of bad cop, but really

I mean like awful cop.

Yeah.

Do you think the line has been crossed?

I think they're getting to the point where in the Kremlin they're sitting around a table and saying

We have threatened to use tactical nuclear weapons so many times that we have to do something to restore credibility.

B,

there was a general rule of the Cold War that you do not use a proxy to attack the home ground, whatever the pretext, whatever the strategic logic of your superpower rival.

And we learned that when we tried to arm Cuba to hit the American mainland.

And

we learned that when

the United States was using in the Cold War maybe Turkey to target nuclear missiles at our homeland.

So

we both stopped it.

And we didn't do it in Vietnam.

We didn't really do it in Korea.

But the Americans are now using Ukraine and supplying them with very sophisticated top-of-the-line weapons that are hitting targets inside

Russia.

As I said on the last podcast, historically, there's not a good record about that happening in any context.

Once we intercepted the Zimmermann telegram that Mexico would be used,

an offer from the German foreign minister to use Mexico to attack the United States and therefore would be given back the southwest of the United States.

That was one of the two pretexts we used to go to war in World War I.

We had no

We had no patience with that.

So any time that

you meddle like that, you've got to be very careful, and we're meddling.

And so, I had talked, I wrote an article about Ukraine we talked about three weeks ago,

and I've noticed that Richard Haas wrote something similar.

There's people I admire at Hoover, I think Stephen Kotkin wrote something.

I don't mean that they're derivative of why what they wrote something similar simultaneously or slightly different.

But I think what I'm getting at is there is a consensus.

And Zelensky today, just today, and I'm speaking on a Saturday morning, November 30th, that

he was willing to give up land.

So I think we all know what's coming, Jack, under Trump, and that is he's going to use these weapons that Biden foolishly put in.

He's going to tell Putin, I don't want to do this, it's provocative, I don't want to try to break you.

You were doing very well when you sold natural gas.

I didn't approve of it with the Nordstrom II, but you've got a lot of energy.

You could get rich if you just kept out of European affairs and sold them energy.

And why in the world are you partnering with China?

They hate you more than they hate us.

We should be triangulated.

We don't care if you like them, but why partner with Iran?

You want Iran to be a nuclear power, Vladimir, right on your borders?

That's insane.

So, and you know what?

I can't say it public, Vladimir, but you're not going to get back.

Zelensky's not going to get Crimea.

We know it's been yours since 1787.

We understand that when it declared itself independent, that Ukraine grabbed it and stole it before you could.

We understand that.

We understand the Donbass.

Khrushchev gave it to Ukraine with the idea that it would never, never not be part of the Soviet Union.

We get that.

We understand who Robert Kagan and Victoria Newland are and the whole, let's get Ukraine into NATO and be provocative.

We understand all that.

So here's the deal.

You keep the Donbass, you keep Ukraine.

We'll negotiate about the land you stole

since February 24th.

We will, if you comply and go back to your demarcation point, we'll have a DMZ.

We can arm.

We will arm and help build Ukraine.

So with the EU, they'll take the primary responsibility.

You will not have a NATO member in your former province.

You will have the Crimea, the Donbass.

That's what you can tell.

You succeeded with your new alliance.

You stopped the NATOization, but you're going to have to stop.

And there's all sorts of carrots if you stop.

We are not at war with you.

But if you keep it up,

only bad things are happening.

There's a million and a half people dead, Ukrainian, dead, wounded, or

missing.

And what you've done, Vladimir, is you've created a battle of Stalingrad, but you're on the losing, maybe not the losing end, but you're really taking casualties.

We don't want to see this go on.

I think there's a deal there, I really do.

But

not if you keep launching more and more missiles.

I know that I understand that as a military historian, that launching missiles that are doing damage and getting Putin angry are a negotiating lever.

as you lose, you know, they're losing the area they acquired around Kursk when they invade it.

But there's a limit to that.

And that's why it's important right now when you have some credibility left or some leverage and read Trump's Art of the Deal, Art of the Comeback.

He has some leverage when he comes in.

I think that's what he'll try to do.

I really do.

I think it'll work.

Well,

Aramis, let's hope that is the case.

Victor, we have a

president, two presidents.

I think he's the current president, although I'm not sure if he is, and a former president to get your views on.

And we will do that when we come back from these final important messages.

We're back with the Victor Davis-Hansen Show.

Victor, today's New York Post, Saturday the 30th, has a picture of Joe Biden.

He's up in Nantucket.

Nantucket is the place where he goes every Thanksgiving.

Nantucket is the place where liberals

get very, very upset when Governor DeSantis flies illegal aliens into the neighborhood.

Biden picks up an anti-Israel book during Black Friday shopping.

Retiring President Biden hit the shops on Black Friday and surprised onlookers by picking up a copy of a book describing the establishment of Israel as colonialism that's been met

with Palestinian resistance.

The book is The Hundred Years' War on Palestine, a history of settler colonialism, conquest, and resistance.

It's by Columbia University Press Professor Emeritus Rashid Khalidi.

So here's...

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Where have I heard that name, Jack?

Go ahead, Victor.

It's all yours.

I remember in 2008 that Barack Obama went to a banquet honoring Rashid Khalidi, who was going to assume this endowed chair at Columbia, and had been a radical Palestinian spokesman with some suggestion that he had condoned or advocated the use of terrorism as a tactic against the Jewish state.

And

Barack Obama had said something at this banquet, remember?

And they had taped it.

And because they're the Los Angeles Times, who believes in

hard-edge, cutting-edge, tough journalism, they had taped it.

It would be a great story.

It would be analogous to the picture of Farrakhan and Obama taken right during the campaign season.

And guess what happened?

These lions turned into mice.

Remember that?

They wouldn't release it.

The L.A.

Times said, oh, we're not going to release this.

We've got to protect Barack Obama.

He's going to be president.

Same like they suppressed the picture of him.

So we never found out what Obama said.

But he's a very controversial person.

And I would guarantee you that if you read

Rashid Khalidi's history of the Palestinian version of the current Palestinian-Israeli standoff, it's not going to be disinterested.

And if you're the president of the United States and you go into a bookstore during the holidays and you walk out with one book, one, let me repeat that, one book, you don't, and it's a radical Palestinian's view right when of this dispute, right when there's all this world controversy, and you flash the cover, or you're either stupid or you're trying to send a message.

Maybe the message is, hey, you Jewish voters, I know I still got 40 or 50 percent of you, and guess what?

The election's over.

You can't do anything.

I'm on my way out.

This is what I think of you.

I went in there, and you know, I don't read anymore.

I can't comprehend anything, but I just want to get this book and flash the cover so everybody sees it.

Yeah.

I think that's what happened.

There's

the hatred of Israel.

They hate Israel.

They hate Israel.

I don't understand that.

You know, I've said before, I never met anybody Jewish until I was 18.

But my mother was so pro-Israel.

And so it was my father.

And

we had a congressman who was an Israeli.

Can you believe that?

In the 1970s?

From the 60s.

Central Valley?

Yes, Fresno.

He was very liberal.

His name was John Krebs, Jewish American, but also, I think, a dual citizen of Israel.

He actually fought in the 67-day war.

And

my parents knew him very well and liked him.

But my point is that when you go, when I first went to Israel, and I've gone back several times, there's something about that country that is just, I don't know, it's amazing.

Everything.

It's just, it went from being

without any advantages, physical advantages, monetary, just a bunch of poor

refugees and an indigenous community that had been there forever in the most hostile environment, and 80 years later,

its GDP exceeds Europe.

Things work there.

It really is amazing what they're doing.

I was in Haifa and just

that is one of the most beautiful cities in the world.

And it reminds me of what San Francisco used to be.

So I don't know why people have this hatred of it.

When you see there's two million Palestinians that are living there, and everybody says, well, those Jews got to get out of that West Bank.

I mean,

yeah, maybe settlers is a controversial idea, but if you're a Palestinian and you live inside Israel, you're going to be treated a lot better than if you're a Jew living in the West Bank by a Palestinian.

And all these people and these campuses with the pink hair and the rainbow T-shirts, I can tell you, after being in Gaza and the West Bank, if you go over there and you

demonstrate, just try that.

Or try it in Syria, try it in Saudi Arabia, try it in any of those countries.

And all of you radical Palestinian students or Egyptians or Jordanes have come over here and you occupy all of our facilities, you rush the president's office, you chase a Jew.

And I just would like to suggest to you that was all predicated on an administration that secretly empathized with you, but did not have public support because public support shows 65%

favor the Israeli position.

So just a word of warning.

Should you come over here as a guest of the United States and should you deliberately break, flagrantly so, not your university, we don't care about university, we know what they're like, but you break the law and go out and occupy the Bay Bridge or the Manhattan Bridge, or you try to disrupt the Christmas festivities, or you try to swarm Black Friday shopping in Chicago, or you go, there's not going to be any public support for you at all.

And this new administration will probably say, if you commit a felony or you're arrested, you're going to have your green card.

Next plane.

Yeah, next plane, you get your wish.

And they're not going to say this to you.

They're not saying, we're going to punish you because you broke our laws.

We're going to say, you you know what?

We agree with you.

Palestine is a beautiful place.

The West Bank is nice.

Gaza needs talent to rebuild.

You're going to get an opportunity.

And please go back and help your

fellow show solidarity, your fellow Palestinians, and build the beautiful society that you see in Dubai or Ghatir.

You can do it.

We hope you will be successful.

Victor, I know you talked to Sammy the other day in the recent podcast.

Amongst the things you talked about was lack of appreciation for Israel having invoked the retribution that we should have invoked about people who killed our citizens and went unpunished.

And I just have a great, and always have had a great admiration for the IDF.

And did you see the story the other day where they destroyed this Hezbollah underground?

I mean, damn.

It almost had a mythical existence that people had referenced it in two contexts, That it wasn't just in a depository, it was a factory where Iranian parts were being assembled, and that it was so stealthily

concealed and so carefully guarded, the secret of its existence, that they didn't think anybody would ever find it.

And they found it and destroyed it.

I think they were referenced in the article a bunker buster bomb.

Yeah.

Like several, several bombs.

Several.

Yeah.

So, I mean, I don't, I think one of the reasons that Netanyahu agreed to what might

seem an asymmetrical deal was that

it's diminishing returns as far as Hezbollah.

You're never going to eliminate it, but they have so detreated it that they feel that given the chance of getting all of their own people back living near the border, and given the fact that they're going to have a demilitarized zone, and given the fact they've humiliated Hezbollah, they're going to stop back and see what happens and see if the Lebanese step forward.

I don't think they will, or if Hezbollah

is weak or anemic, they'll be weak for 10 years.

But they're basically saying we have a window, a breathing space now, and we're going to

see what they want to do.

But we've shown the world that within three months we can destroy everything they are.

We can take out their hierarchy, their iconic figures.

We can destroy their armories.

We can isolate them.

And I think they're also saying to the world,

we've done what we need to do with Hezbollah, and we've almost done what we've needed to do with Hamas, and now we're going to be free to turn to

the creator of this entire mess.

And one country that everybody hates is theocratic Iran.

Amen.

I am just curious about Netanyahu,

who I know you've met with him any number of times or talked to him, and

there's no wrong answer here.

Is he the kind of guy you would want to have a beer with?

What's he like

to talk to and deal with?

He's very confident.

He's very confident, very short of himself.

I've talked to his brother a lot too.

Very bright, very bright.

Her father was the

scholar of the treatment of Jews during the Spanish Inquisition.

Yoni, the older brother, was the hero of the Entebbe raid, who was killed, the only person who was killed of that raid.

See, it's a historic family in Israel.

It's very controversial.

One of the reasons they hate him is that under Sharon, he was the economic minister, and he took a socialist kibbutz type of economy and did a Milton Friedman on it.

And the prosperity you see today,

and the,

I don't know what the word is, the

ultra-success.

Yes, the just just unimaginable success of the tech sector.

It's one of the

most advanced tech sector and economic,

the hedge fund, and the investment, all of those consortia, that's due to the climate that Netanyahu created.

And that, more than anything, hurt the left.

The Israeli left is very

close to our squad left.

They're very fanatical, and they hate him.

And

I think they hate him for a variety of reasons.

He grew up in the United States for a long period of time.

His father relocated, I think, to Cornell.

So he speaks English with a perfect accent.

He understands America better than anybody.

They understand they'll never get anybody in Israel that has a better understanding of how the United States works or speaks a language so fluently without an accent and

is so shrewd and has dominated.

He's the longest serving

Israeli prime minister.

But

more of the criticism comes, this is what's ironic, the left calls him corrupt and a warmonger, but actually

the problem he has right now are the right-wing parties that feel that in the euphoria of defanging Hamas

and neutering Hezbollah, there's an opportunity now to resettle Gaza with Jewish settlements that were expelled by Sharon in 2000, I think, 6,

are go and expand the settlements.

And he's trying to resist that and basically say

we won't increase the settlements if we can get a government other than Hamas and the Gaza and maybe even get golf money to come in.

They're working on the

Abraham Accords with Saudi Arabia, etc.

I talked to him a long time.

I've talked to him on the phone.

He's a very impressive figure.

I wouldn't want to negotiate with him

because he's like Trump.

That would be a very interesting discussion because he's got the same confidence and he's got the negotiating skills of Trump.

And I think that the fact that Trump is in charge of the United States and Netanyahu, who's in charge of Israel, is in councils in Iran that are being held, that is a nightmare.

That is a nightmare.

They thought that as long as you had a leftist control of Israel and you had somebody like Biden or Obama, they could do whatever they wanted.

And now I think it's their worst nightmare.

Well, Victor, having talked about the current alleged president, I think we promised not, maybe it was the previous podcast, never got to it.

We'll get to it in a future one, about this talk about AOC in 2028.

But let's talk about one other past president, and this is Bill Clinton.

I love the Daily Mail.

I check it out throughout the day.

And here's a headline: Bill Clinton makes stunning confession about his bizarre behavior after Hillary's defeat in America's quote-unquote darkest election.

Let me just read something here quickly.

Bill Clinton was so enraged by the treatment of his wife, Hillary, during her failed presidential bid that he couldn't sleep for two years, he now admits.

Maybe he didn't sleep.

Maybe he was, who knows what he was doing while he wasn't sleeping.

I'll jump ahead.

Clinton still blames Hillary's defeat on

a toxic combination of Russian propaganda, an unprecedented investigation into her emails by Comey, and a supine political press, which he says took more interest in the email controversy than the merits of the candidates.

Let me just say to Bill,

hey, Bill, I just want to talk to you, Bill.

I just tell you that I know that you've done all you could for us, but here's the deal, Bill.

Your wife was Secretary of State.

Do you think that anybody wants to pay you $500,000 in Russia, as the mayor of Moscow did when your wife oversaw the transfer of North American uranium to the control of the Russians?

Do you think that anybody ever believed you when you told us at the height of this crisis that you're now lamenting that your private jet just happened to bump noses with Loretta Lynch, the Attorney General's private jet, where then you went out and talked just about your grandchildren, rather,

how to get Hillary out of her mess, because after all, she had, what, 30,000 emails that she destroyed, and many of those from the ones she did not destroy showed that she was transmitting classified information as Secretary of State of the United States against the law, which was a felony.

And you were discussing that because lo and behold, Loretta Lynch suddenly said,

I didn't know I was attorney general.

I don't make those decisions.

The investigatory people, the FBI that really bring me all of the evidence, and then I adjudicate whether it justifies and diet, that doesn't work.

I was all wrong.

Comey can do both.

Hey, Jim, you bring the evidence and you decide.

And if it's something I agree with, I'll praise you.

If it's something I don't, I'll leak that you're an idiot.

And so that's what he that did.

As far as the steel dossier and Russian bill, you know what Hillary did.

She took an old right-wing dossier that was ossified and calcified, and then she paid a foreign national, Christopher Steele, which is illegal to do.

You cannot hire foreigners to work in a political campaign for president.

And she told him, hey, Christopher, I've got to hide my money to you.

So wait a bit.

It's going to go to the DNC.

The DNC are going to take a deep breath, and then they're going to write a check to Perkins Coe Law Firm.

Then they're going going to take a deep breath, and then they're going to write a check to Fusion GPS.

Then they're going to take a deep breath and get it to you.

But it's coming from me.

It's just, I don't want to have my fingerprints on it.

So I want you to get all the dirt you can.

Oh, pee-pee tape?

He urinated on the bed

because he heard that.

It sounds so great.

Now, here's the next clincher.

We're going to leak that to all my former friends in the State Department.

We'll give it to Victoria Newland.

We'll give it to the regular hack politicos, and we're going to leak it right before the election.

So we can say that Donald Trump is, as my former associates, Jim Clapper and John Brennan, said, he's a Russian asset.

He's a puppet.

And that's what they did.

And there was no Russian collusion.

We know that because they took 22 months in the dream team, the All Stars, the killer team that Andrew Weissman bagged about, Max Boot wrote and said it would demolish Trump.

They found nothing.

The dream.

dream.

So, given all that, he has no credibility.

So, why is he upset in his memoirs and he couldn't sleep?

He could sleep after he was serviced by Monica.

I bet you he slept very well that night.

I bet he slept even better with Paula Jones and Katherine Willis and on the jet with Jeffrey Epstein.

But you know what?

I know he's telling a truth in oneness aspect.

He could not sleep because she lost the election.

Because if she had won the election, then Bill Clinton would be the de facto president.

And he would be all in his desk with the phone ringing and he would give memos and he would have all the interns and he would be running the country like Obama is now.

So Hillary would be, Hillary would be his, he would play Joe, he would play Barack Obama to Barack Obama's Biden, and Hillary would be his Biden.

And he would be telling her what to do and all this, and he would be all over the news.

And what a great thing.

And that didn't happen.

In fact, she was humiliated.

She's humiliated.

She's self-destructed.

He is self-destructed.

He's basically playing the role now of Dorian Gray, Oscar Wilde's Dorian Gray.

All of his sins are written on his face and heard in his voice.

And he's I don't buy that for one bit that he couldn't sleep because Hillary lost.

He couldn't sleep because he lost.

Imagine the amount of money he

imagined, I assume, the amount of money that would be coming into the Clinton Foundation that

just fell off a cliff.

Yeah, had no money coming in.

It was all bribe money of people who wanted quid pro quo.

That's what they, and they were using the money basically to fly on the Clinton Foundation jet.

Yeah.

And so he never came, he never comes close to the middle of the day.

The only redeeming feature of him is in all of his contorted machinations and Machiavellian plotting, he did understand one thing,

basically, only because he was tutored by crazy Cajun Jim Carver, James Carverll, and Dick Morris.

And basically, they told him: Bill,

if you want to be a liberal Democrat, you have to triangulate.

So you have to give bones to the constituencies.

You have to say you're for 100,000 police officers.

You're for school uniforms.

You're for night basketball.

You've got to at least say that.

You've got to at least have one iconic performance art art moment.

Take on Sister Solja.

Get her out there and say her racist lyrics are not permissible.

You do that, and you can win the middle class.

And they were right about that.

And then Hillary didn't understand that.

Yeah.

Well, Hillary, also, I see some, we'll know by the time you and I re-engage in a week, but

there's some prattle that she may throw her.

No, she's not going to do that.

There's an internet.

Some people, one of the nice things about hosting this show, and I'm not hosting, being your guest,

is this.

I get so many emails with, you know, like pictures.

Yes.

So I got one this morning that says

the power of Donald Trump.

And it says, before Trump, and it shows Hillary like 2014, and she's all bubbly with Botox.

She looks pretty good.

And then afterwards, now is kind of like a bag lady picture.

and then they show before Trump they show a made-up perfectly coy

uh Camilla Harris and then they show that video where she looks like a drunken disheveled person and they go after Trump

oh man

we

well we we gotta enjoy it while we can

so hey you've been I think my friend Gary I don't know if my friend I have a friend Gary who sends me the most informative

email.

And Gary struck I think Gary struck again.

I got up from two or three people, but Gary always has the best renditions of them.

Well, thanks, Gary.

Hey, Victor, you've been terrific.

We have a growing listenership, as you know.

And despite our garage band Pirate Radio set up here, it's

we're trying to do better.

I got

because

Spotty has died and Sport has died, then Spike and Gracie are in mourning, so they're not barking all the time.

So it's quiet.

How many pups are?

We had five at our

zenith.

Two.

We have a 13-year-old arthritic dog that hobbles around Gracie, and then we have an insane, mindless Queensland named Spike, who's about eight, who has an IQ of about five.

But I like him.

But he's just, he bumps into things.

He doesn't know what he's doing.

When you let him out of the iron gate for the yard, he bites the gate as he goes out as if it's a cattle foot or something, you know.

Australian cattle dog.

Oh, wow.

I love your dogs, Victor.

Well, I'm sorry, but God rest their souls

and keep the other ones around.

Hey, but as I was saying, listenership is growing, and folks can take the opportunity through Apple to

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And thank you for doing that.

Some leave comments.

We read all the comments here and read the comments on Victor's website also.

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I adore V.D.

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I listen to a lot of podcasts while I work on my farm because it's hands-free.

I listen to a lot of young hosts who are loud and who curse so that I have to cut the volume in front of my elderly mother.

Hansen sounds more like a nice, quiet NPR host.

But it's considered what he's doing to be.

I don't really think I am an NPR host.

But you're a conservative.

I can always listen to Hansen in front of anyone in my family without concern for any offensive language.

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Thank you, Farm Haint.

Victor Ont does not perform blue.

He is very family-friendly.

Try not to.

Yeah, I'm sorry for the occasional dam.

I do live in a rough neighborhood where by processes of osmosis, I hear the taboo word, F-word.

Well, you hear gunshots.

Why shouldn't you hear F-words?

I hear gunshots a lot.

I went out on my farm yesterday, and there was an armed intruder walking around the periphery.

Oh.

You never know what to expect.

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