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Hello, ladies.

Hello, gentlemen.

This is the Victor Davis-Hanson Show.

I'm Jack Fowler, the host.

We're recording on Sunday, July 10th, 2022.

And this particular episode should be up on the World Wide Web on Thursday, July 14th, Bastille Day.

I don't know why people celebrate that day, Victor, because

that revolution only brought misery to the world.

Hey, you're Victor Davis-Hanson, the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow of the Still Ramsay.

I had

a contract plug-in for long covet but i still

oh you're alive all right people that have long covet we're we're a special protected group jack and i really resent this oh finally you're a victim i like it yeah i am a victim now i'm a long hauler well listen i i know you're soon enough going to be in michigan so i have to say this about you also you are the wayne and marsha buskie distinguished fellow in history at hillsdale college and you'll be teaching there this september or August.

What's

I will be there the first two weeks,

God willing.

And I have to teach, you know, five, four days or five days a week.

I can't remember.

But

yeah, I'm going to teach a class on strategy and give a talk on why study military history to the community and the university.

I've done that for seven.

Hold on, 18 years, 1804, yeah.

This is the last, I'm getting old.

And then after I got COVID the second time, and I haven't had as good results.

But I've noticed for our broadcast, I have a formula that makes me sharp.

So what does it involve?

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and I'm ready to go oh I take M and N that's a niacin precursor and I get a surge of energy for this

wow you

see I have to do it because I've been losing my mind with this stuff it has brain problems brain inflammation that you've noticed well victor you lose your mind you'll still be smarter than 99 of the people in this country so hey wait a minute biden had a huge popular vote.

He did.

He did.

Sounds good,

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Yeah.

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Well, it's okay.

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I don't know, it's kind of, may seem kind of low-grade thing to discuss, but I think this is a typical sign of the insanity that America is undergoing right now.

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And I'm reading, again, we're recording on the 10th of July.

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Cheryl Strittenberg, that's the name of the mom, has petitioned the Oregon Department of Education to roll back the, this is what it's called, the Menstrual Dignity Act.

The law requires public schools to provide free menstrual products in all bathrooms, including those designated for boys as young as kindergarten.

To pay for the dispensers, about 5.6 million would be diverted from the state schools fund, enough to pay 30 teachers' salaries for two years.

Victor, this is just, this is freaking insanity.

And it reminded me, and it might not be the easiest connection of the dots, but you know, a generation plus ago when all these daycare programs were being shut down on these insane charges that kids were being, being, you know, sodomized with knives and rocket ships going to the moon.

And yet

these daycare program owners were prosecuted, sentenced, some died in jail.

Janet Reno, the

Attorney General of Florida, got her fame from doing this kind of crap.

And America looked back shortly afterwards and said, this was nuts.

And I have to believe America's either going to look back at this Oregon law and laws like it, or looking at it right now and saying, this is nuts.

Victor, is this nuts?

Yeah, it is.

And it's part of the

downsides.

I mean, there's more upsides than downsides, but democracy has this tendency to go into bouts of mass frenzy.

You know, in Herodotus, there's a really interesting passage when these Ionians, that's, you know, where modern Turkey is, they come over to the mainland.

Greece was considered these, even though Ionia was older, this is where the power was in the early fifth century and they wanted help to break away from the persians the ionian revolt and so they went to athens and sparta and they got a very i mean the spartans being spartan just said well how how far away are you people from here and when they told them because they just said forget it and they went to athens and they got this maddening, you know, roar of approval.

And dryly comments, it's easier to persuade 30,000 than it is a few Spartans.

The point he's making is that

even though there's all these disunited voices and there's all these disparate viewpoints, once a democracy gets into a frenzy, it's very, whether it's witch trials or killing Socrates or you name it, they're very.

they're very dangerous.

And we are in a mass hysteria.

I think it was partly ignited by the lockdown, quarantines, COVID, the George Floyd

revolution.

But if our grandparents could come back for one day and we tried to explain the transgender phenomenon, they wouldn't understand it.

And so we're saying that male restrooms shall offer tampons.

And I guess what they mean by that is

1.5% of the population considers themselves transgender, right?

So maybe half of that 0.5,

2.2 to 3, 0.2 to 3.

So what I'm getting at is let's say

there's 100 people who use a bathroom every hour, and the school is so worried

that maybe one half of one person will come in there who is a biological female,

but has apparently either cross-dressed or removed her breast and is now taking testosterone and is a male, but not to the extent that they can

cease menstruating.

And therefore, the school will provide a tampon for a quote-unquote male who is quote unquote still capable of menstruating as her former self as a woman.

Is that right, Jack?

I think

you forgot to add a kindergartner.

Oh, yes.

And that,

I guess, is what they're after.

And then it shows you that what's really screwed up about this society, we don't care for any of the majority.

We never do.

We go on these tangents.

So we're going to spend all of this money.

And

usually it's when you can't address the felony, you go after the misdemeanor.

And what I'm getting at is you could understand that if these kids in Oregon are all in global 99% rankings in math and science and Oregon and all these states are just world famous for their excellence of their public schools.

And then they said, you know what, we've done such a great job.

For 10 minutes out of the day, let's just think about gender and race.

And we'll think of, we'll just consider it because we can't, it's kind of like, the Bloomberg effect though.

When Bloomberg, you remember, couldn't remove the snow from New York, then he talked about supersized drinks and what the threat that posed to humanity of people getting too big a sugar drink.

I think he outlawed them.

And what I'm getting at is that they can't instruct people.

Our public schools are in ruin, and yet they can find the time and the energy to go on these tangents about putting, and they'll have a palsy directive.

They no longer, they no doubt had a lawyer draw it up.

They're going to have a facilitator.

They're going to have a complaint.

It's because they can't educate, is what I'm getting at.

They cannot educate, whether it's the teachers' unions, or whether it's the parents, or whether it's the system or our schools these days, whatever the reason is, they cannot educate.

And because they cannot educate, they drift or redirect in other directions where they think they can.

And so, anytime you see these stupid ideas and these wasted efforts that cost enormous amounts of capital and labor, you should say to yourself,

this is the

misdirection because the direction has been lost.

And this is the tangent because the trajectory has been broken.

And we're going to see it, you know, Jack, there's about a million and to a million and a quarter students anticipated that have dropped out of the college system.

That is, they're 18 and above, and they're projected not to go to school in November, and they didn't go the last year.

And if you do the math of maybe 75 to 100 students per professor, you're talking about 10 to 12 to 15,000 layoffs, professors that will not be needed with this radical reduction in the student body numbers.

And then you think to yourself, but we're hiring not hundreds, but thousands of diversity, equity, and inclusion czar.

So what we're going to get is we're going to have a lot of unemployed or recently minted PhDs,

but they're going to be told, well, you know what?

There's no room for you to teach French and there's no room for you to teach college level mathematics, but if you want to be a diversity, equity, inclusion administrator, you can.

That's because the universities cannot face the reality.

They cannot tell the population, give us your children.

We will give you an economic product and we will guarantee that after four years, they will graduate and they will have a liberal general education and they will also have expertise at the undergraduate level.

And we can guarantee you that.

They can't do it.

So they're going to

gravitate into these other directions.

And the people say, you know what?

I don't want any part of it.

So the parents, as you said, when they look at this, they said, you know what?

Where's the closest parochial school?

Where's the charter school?

How can I get out of this insane asylum?

And the public schools are going to face the same thing as higher education.

They already are.

LA School District, you know, it's getting rid of Merritt.

So.

Well, Victor,

speaking of higher education and education, let's move on to Betsy DeVos.

I like Betsy.

I know her a little bit.

I assume you might, but even if you don't, she was the Secretary of Education under President Trump.

And we were just talking about something creepy,

tampons and kindergarten boys' rooms.

And something creepy happened to Betsy DeVos.

And you're going to tell us about it.

Yeah, well, she has a memoir out, and she is touring the country, or I should say, higher education.

And she's in the memoir, she mentions that when she was injured, and I guess, well, I guess the word would be what she was immobile, huh, Jack?

She couldn't escape.

Right.

And she mentioned that she was one of joe biden's victims where he comes in and he does this creepy thing i think in her case it was touch her forehead or something too long

but of course he violates the sacred space of women and he's been told not to and he's been told not to to such an extent during the 2020 primaries that remember he did that little video where he kind of said well i'm kind of I'm kind of from the old school.

I understand I've got to change and more A's have changed and you can't really but he what he should have said was

i'm a pervert and i like to get young girls and come in from the back and blow in their ear and touch their bra straps and smell their hair and i understand that even though i'm powerful and i violated the work the space of subordinates in most cases or strangers and and and daughter yeah and daughter and took a shower with my daughter which she thought was a little bit too old I guess.

I can't do that and be politically viable.

So I wanted to make a fake apology, and that's what he did.

But, you know, I was just thinking the other day about another matter, Bill Clinton.

Why is it that all of these liberal icons, these radical feminists, these champions of equality, why do they all take advantage of women?

There's Bill Clinton, and there was one thing that was a common denominator in Bill Clinton, and that was he took advantage of these women.

They all, after their sexual Congress with him, they were not happy people.

They felt they had been in some way exploited.

Why does Joe Biden, you know,

why does Tara Reed come out of nowhere?

And then we know from an earlier broadcast that her mother at the time, 30 years or so ago, was worried that her daughter had been assaulted.

Why does Joe Biden continue to do this?

Remember Al Gore?

You remember the, is it sex poodle?

The crazy sex poodle?

He went into an organ.

Was it where was it?

Oh,

yeah.

Remember, he had a massage and

said that he exposed himself.

Yeah, he wanted a happy ending.

Yeah.

I don't think, I mean, they had a long, they tried to cover that up, but all of these people were icons of feminists.

I'm not saying that powerful men, you know, Donald Trump and Stormy Dan, I'm not saying any of that in the Access Hollywood.

I understand that.

But why do people who profess

to be icons and guardians of women's equality and dignity.

Why do they always end up like this with some, you know,

sorted?

It's not just an affair, it's a sordid situation with Bill Clinton and biting the lip of somebody or, you know, Paula Jones in a room of Quickie or blowing some girl's hair.

Just, it's creepy.

And I don't understand it.

I don't really, I really don't understand.

I think it has something to do with the loss of deterrence.

And that is that a lot of creepy people profess that they're feminist,

and then they feel

then women lose their deterrence around them because they wouldn't dare do that.

And they buy an indemnity policy.

So a Bill Clinton or a Joe Biden or an Al Gore thinks, you know what?

I'm a left-wing abortion rights advocate.

And because I am, I took out an insurance policy.

And if I do some really creepy, sick little things, they're going to give me a second, third chance.

Well, the laws don't apply to them in any which way.

The actual laws of America or the

moral laws of Judeo-Christian civilization, they're above it.

I don't even think they think they're violating the laws.

They just think that they don't apply to me.

I think the loss, as I remember, you know, it was a while ago.

I don't think it was just coming out now.

It was a while when she was on the tour.

I think she said he was gross.

I think she even, I'm doing by memory, I think she implied it was a type of intimidation more than just physical creepiness.

You know what I mean?

I'm putting my head right on your head.

Ha ha,

I'm in your space.

And that she well, he's the kind of guy to do that.

I think Rich Lowry told me, I'm sorry, Rich, if he wasn't you,

but he

would come up to you as a senator and you'd ask him a question.

And then he'd be the kind of guy, grab you on the shoulder.

Yeah, that's exactly what he did, as I remember it.

He would squeeze really hard, like, yeah, I'm answering your question.

I remember being up with me.

She had a really, I had a bad, really bad bike accident.

So I was, I was interested.

She did.

She was really,

I mean,

I think they had to reconstruct her shoulders or something with screws.

She was really injured and she was frail and she was in pain.

And he came up and he, I think he came from his usual,

what he was like a little BF-109, huh?

He came in from a back attack or maybe it was a frontal assault, a die bombing assault, and he comes in and grabs her shoulders, I think, that were reconstructed.

And then he does his little thing.

And then we're all supposed to say, that's just, put old Joe Biden from Scranton, Jack.

Well, he was in heaven the other day, Victor, when he was putting on those Presidential Medal of Freedoms.

He got to, he was in his prime position, right behind people.

I'm sure a lot of women thought, on the one hand this is a great honor on the other hand i've got to put up with joe biden's yeah creepiness but then they thought well the media will never report it so it won't be that bad well victor let's uh get out of the creep factor let's uh cross the ocean to europe and the european union

And here's Europe on the edge, except for France, on the edge energy-wise,

beholden to Russian natural gas, having in Germany, for example, having self-destructed its own internal energy system.

And now they're at a very difficult crossroads, overrun by a green mentality, also layer that onto everything.

But in the face of all that, here's a headline.

And I'm reading from Legal Insurrection.

Good friends up there, great website.

European Union votes to classify natural gas and nuclear as quote unquote green energy subhead environmental activists decry the plan as quote greenwashing and quote fossil fuel and nuclear energy so you know victor even the the bureaucrats in the european union uh have sort of know that you've got to have heat in the wintertime right reminds me of the barnyard wall and

animal farm all animals are equal when they wake up all animals are equal but some are more equal than others And all non-wind and solar is bad, but some non-wind and solar is okay, better than others.

So they've changed the rules because they had no choice.

And

Germany and most of Europe's got plentiful coal, and they have abilities to process it and use it in a way that is not as environmentally destructive as it was in the past.

But when you get to natural gas, it gets a little stranger because none of them say say that carbon monoxide or the smoke or the soot is a danger.

It's just the heat is what they object to, even though it's a clean burning fuel.

And so now that's okay, and they have some of it, but they have to import most of it.

And then nuclear doesn't, I mean, it's the actual emissions are not that hot.

So it's a clean...

it's a clean fuel.

And yet they don't, they won't want it, I guess, because of Three Mile Island and Chernobyl and all these things that have happened.

So it also then sort of makes us ask the question, who are they?

Remember that question, the wild bunch, when they said, babe, they, they.

And

finally,

what's his name, Edgar?

What's his name?

The old man says.

Who are they?

They, the very, you know, who are they?

And so who are these people?

These green people who say greenwashing and

want to live in Germany or live in a european country or live in the united states with what 50 of the present grid working and shut down and just rely on wind and solar who are they and i think if you would do a deep i think they represent germany's 1.36 or something fertility rate and these are usually usually prolonged adolescent this is the western disease jack that is threatening the entire west and the westernized world whether it's japan or europe the united states and we know what it is It is a prolonged adolescent that goes to the university, gets imbued with all these radical ideas by tenured professors who have jobs for life and are not worried about, you know, going home and looking at the 7-Eleven inventory that they manage for the next day.

It's guaranteed income.

They pontificate.

These young kids lap it up.

They go get their apartment.

They don't mow the lawn.

They don't worry about getting the septic tank pumped.

They don't do any of that.

They just live in their apartment.

They have their bicycle.

They bike three or four miles away.

Once in a while, you know, if they have to go, they rent a car.

And they're numerous in Europe.

And they have counterparts in the United States.

And they say to themselves, we don't use much energy.

And so they think everybody should live like them.

The farmer,

the lumberjack.

the mason, everybody lives like them.

They don't need it.

So when they say you're greenwashing, they say, we don't need natural gas.

We don't need coal we don't need any of these fuels we can get by yeah and what they mean is our lifestyles isolated self-contained irrelevant are perfectly sustainable

based on coffee and cupcakes yeah that's that's their that's their maya yeah it's crazy give them a cell phone and coffee or starbucks and they're fine but tell them well where where are you going to get the glass and the windows at your starbucks or the plastic cover for your cell phone?

Or

how did you be able to walk down there safely without a police force?

And all these people, other than you, live normal lives and they have families and

they have homes and they need energy.

Yeah, and they need fossil fuel that's a product for everything in their life on top of it.

It's crazy.

I hate to call it fossil fuel.

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So, Victor, the border agents, the men, they're whips, they're whipping, and they didn't do anything.

No, they did, Jack.

But they were

not.

One twirled his reins unnecessarily.

He twirled it at a distance.

He held it out and twirled it.

And that gave off a threatening,

I don't know what it was, threatening wind or something.

And

I'm doing this, I think, by memory, but one of them.

One of them committed a felony.

And the felony was as these Haitians were swarming illegally across into the United States and his horses were scared and they were trying to use long runs.

He's, remember they, in some of the pictures, there were women?

Yeah.

One person, one,

said, you're, don't use your women, or he said something like, this is why your country's S-H-I-T shit, because you use your women like, you know what I mean?

It was like, don't.

don't use them as a barrier to get into my country.

And this is why you're, and that was the offense.

And they twirled the reins.

And so they used inappropriate language by saying the word SHIT.

And one guy, as I said, he

twirled his reins and they were rude to these lawbreakers.

And there was a lack of, what, what would you call it, leadership or lack of

control, a lack of responsibility.

And remember, Joe Biden said without any evidence that these people, I think I'm quoting him, didn't he say, they will pay?

They will pay.

So there were,

I think everybody should remember

the context.

15, 20,000 people from Haiti come up uninvited at a time of a pandemic with no vaccination.

and no tests, you know, no thing around their neck or in their pocket saying I'm negative.

And they swarm illegally in the United States and an outnumbered group of border patrol who ride around the border and along the Rio Grande, they are overwhelmed.

And a lot of women try to get into the

climb up on the banks, and the horses get scared.

And they have these very long reins that they use to rein in the horses.

And they're jumping up and down.

And the media says they're being ripped.

Lies, of course.

And Joe Biden said, this is outrageous.

These people will pay.

And Mallorcus, remember that?

He got on the wagon last summer.

And of course, when we all said and done, they went an investigation.

And the Border Patrol was innocent.

And we understand that they couldn't say they're innocent.

So they said that one person said S-H-I-T

and said, this is why your country should.

That was one felony, I guess.

And the other felony was he didn't need to twirl his reins.

He twirled them in a threatening manner.

Didn't hit anybody, but he didn't have to twirl them.

That's not in the rule book.

And so think about it.

You're faced with mass illegality,

these people.

Trying to hold back the tide.

They have no respect for the United States.

The first thing they're going to do as would-be Americans is break the law, entering your country.

The second thing they're going to do is break the law by illegally staying in your country.

And the third thing they're going to do is probably have fake ID

to provide them.

And the fourth, become a victim.

Yes.

And all of a sudden, we're going to go after these.

And, you know, this is very important because some studies show that on the actual border,

not just the administrative, but about 50 to 70 percent of the border patrol are minorities.

And many of them are Mexican-American.

And they're some of the most capable, patriotic people in the world.

So when Biden goes after the Border Patrol and he wonders why he's losing the Hispanic vote, is it Mayo Flores's husband is a Border Patrol agent?

Yeah.

So he's basically saying to the Hispanic community,

if your husband is on the border and

he does his job and the media feels that he shouldn't do his job, we're going to concoct some, we're going to first declare him guilty and try to ruin his viability, his career.

But if we can't do that under further investigation, we're going to come up with some stupid little you know, incident and we're going to justify the fact that we didn't give him due process when we accused him of something.

And And how's that going to go over with people?

They're sick of it.

I think, you know what, it really introduces a larger subject that I think everybody listening really knows.

And that is this.

Joe Biden is not a nice guy.

Never was, never will be.

He gets up there and you look at his eyes and they tighten up.

His face tightens up and he starts screaming and he gets angry and he says really mean things about people and he says lies and he attacks the Supreme Court overseas, or he says, I'm going to take Donald Trump and beat him up at the gym, or he talks about corn pop, or he's not a nice guy.

And when he did that, this is outrageous.

They're going to pay.

It was really, people,

they're not stupid.

They don't have amnesia.

They remember that.

And that is incrementally, constantly,

insidiously driving down his appointment ratings.

People say, you know, I remember that about him.

I remember his blowing on that little girl.

I remember the corn pop stories.

I remember his latest outrage.

And we haven't even talked about the 10-year-old rapist victim that had to go to Indiana for the abortion.

It may well have happened, but what a lot of people have pointed out in the media, then if the president's going to bring that up and accuse conservatives or creating the landscape for that tragedy to happen, then they'd better give the details.

And so far, they haven't offered offered any details, i.e., who was the rapist who did that?

Is he facing any consequences?

Because that's what we want to know.

If a 10-year-old girl was raped and impregnated and had to go to another state to get abortion, well, if you're going to use that as a political weapon, that incident against the state, I guess, of Ohio, then you have a moral obligation to say, and this person,

we promise you that the person who did that horrible crime will pay and we have him in custody.

But they didn't.

And as far as I know, they didn't.

Well,

look, criminals are the protected class increasingly.

First of all, if there is truth to the story.

And as we've seen so many incidents in recent years, Covington boys, et cetera, things like that.

When the truth comes out, it doesn't fit the initial narrative, which is usually a leftist narrative.

By the way, speaking of criminals, Victor,

we have this case in New York.

Guy

owns a bodega, he's attacked, he defends himself, and he's arrested, and he's put in Rikers Island, and he

$250,000 bond because of pressure he's gotten out.

But the instinct is to punish the good guys and genuflect before the bad guys.

Well, you know, there's two immovable objects that are and you don't, there's a force and a movable object, and you don't know what to do.

and they're colliding so on the one hand you have citizens who are terrified to go out of their homes because of this crime violent crime spike after the woke revolution the quarantines and the psoriosis da and all of these contributoring factors i mean they're in the news this poor man that was what 73 in philadelphia and a gang of six young teens,

both boys and girls, attacked him and killed him like he was an animal.

They just butchered him.

I mean, they hit him with a traffic cone until he was dead.

Sent him to the hospital.

He died in LA.

The guy parked his car and they went out.

They just pick up any news account.

And it's almost

every day,

random people.

I mean, there was a very upscale restaurant in Chicago where a guy ran off the road trying to steal a Lexus and ran into people while they were eating.

So this is increasingly common.

And people know there's nothing that's going to happen.

Either the teens are not going to be arrested, or if they're arrested, they have a long felony record, but they're not going to be prosecuted or they're going to be out.

And so they have to make the necessary adjustments.

If they're older or in many cases, female, and you hear them talking all the time in news accounts, they don't go out.

They're prisoners in their homes because we don't care about them.

Joe Biden does not care about these people.

Lori Lightfoot does not care about these people.

She wants to care about the criminal and contextualize the violence, excuse the violence.

And then there is the other type of person who says, I have to go out.

So what am I going to do when a bunch of teens run up to me or somebody hits me?

Well, I'm going to arm myself.

But if I arm myself, then I might have to use it.

If I have to use it, the whole weight of the criminal justice system is against me.

And at best, I will go broke with legal fees.

And at worst, I could go go to Rikers Island.

So that's what it's troubling everybody.

And you get the impression, I don't want to be conspiratorial, but this left-wing assault on the Second Amendment, I'm thinking of all the problems that we have,

the right to bear arms is not, I mean, I'm not speaking to myself, I'm speaking as an American citizen as exhibited in polls, but it's down to about 10.

In other words, inflation, gas prices, crime, and then it's the Second Amendment, gun control.

But when you look at all the ways you might reduce violence, gun violence, other than outlawing a particular weapon, there's a lot of things you could do.

You could make it a felony to possess

a handgun.

For example, if you had a felony record.

You could just say, you know, if you're a convicted felon and you have a handgun, you're going to be arrested and you can be incarcerated for a year.

Or if you use a weapon in any sort of crime, you'll face five years.

But we won't do that.

We won't do that because that would arrest particular groups that would be considered disproportionate

demographically.

So we can't do that.

So we can't address the felonies.

So we go after the misdemeanor.

It's some guy in Michigan in camouflage that goes out.

you know, with semi-automatic AR-15 and shoots a bunch of, I don't know, varmints.

And then, you know, we, some crazy kid gets a hold of one.

But the actual number of violent shootings we know are

committed by young people against other young people and not in a going into a high school and shooting a bunch of people.

That's terrible.

That probably attributes 50 to 100 a year.

We're talking about 9,000, 10,000 a year.

And we can address that without taking away the weapons of Americans.

And then you would say, well, the left knows that.

So

why do they keep doing this?

Why don't they just say, okay,

let's have a grand compromise?

Joe Biden always talks that he's bipartisan.

He wants to compromise.

Why doesn't he just say, bring in all the Republican senators and House members, and we'll tell you what?

If you guys say that an 18-year-old can't buy an AR-15 till he's 21, then we will have a federal law that says, you know, if a convicted felon is in the possession of a weapon, he will go to prison for at least one year, no bail.

They wouldn't do that, but that would be a start, wouldn't it?

And they'll never do that because for them,

there's something there that it's an elephant in the room, but there's something there.

They do not want a lot of law-abiding citizens.

to possess capable firearms.

Right.

They do not want that.

That's scary.

That's really scary because that's the first thing that totalitarian governments have done in history.

The first thing they go after are registered weapons and they try to confiscate them.

Right.

Victor, I had to go to New York City last week and I had to take the subway.

I had to.

And I knew I was going into this.

By the way, we've said this before.

It's not good.

It can get a lot worse and it has been a lot worse.

I lived through the 60s and 70s and 80s in New York City.

It's going to get there, Jack.

Yeah.

Well, it's friends, people who listen,

it can get really, really bad.

But calculation there, thanks to the stop and frisk policy that was finally implemented.

Even Bloomberg admitted there were probably 60,000 people who were not murdered because of that.

New York at its highest rate in the early 90s, the murder rate had reached about, it was like 2,600 people were murdered in that calendar year.

Never mind all the rapes and et cetera that happened.

But

why shouldn't I be able to protect myself

in this cell?

But I can't.

I can't.

I'd be the criminal for doing that.

I'm out in the middle of nowhere, Jack, and I have four dogs.

And my wife and I take a morning, 7 o'clock a.m.

and an evening, 7 p.m.

walk, just around, I mean, we have 41 acres.

We walk around 20.

It takes us about 18 to 20 minutes, the circumference.

And it's out in the middle of nowhere.

And we're unarmed.

Sometimes we forget even to bring our cell phones.

We have dogs with us.

And I would say that one out of 15 evening walks or early morning walks, that would be two a month, there is something irregular.

By irregular, that means that a neighbor says somebody had just broken in and stripped all of his copper wire out of his ag pump.

Or there are bins now.

Think of this.

Our own property, the neighbor has taken bins and filled them with rotten raisins.

So they weigh a thousand pounds and put them across the alleyway.

He asked,

and then I saw them and I said to him, what are you doing?

And he said, we have to stop these people somehow.

They put logs across the huge big telephone poles across the alleyway so that the people cannot drive in.

These people being criminals.

And I had a person come into my driveway and say, you know, I need to walk around your place.

I said, no, you don't.

Well, I'm looking for my three-wheel vehicle that was stolen.

Well, then you find the story is that he stole it.

And he was trying, he was, he lost it in an act of theft.

And so I would say that in the last five years, I've seen the following.

A dead dog or two with a rope around their neck from being used in dog fights, dumped.

I would say I've seen a semi, semi-truck on blocks that was stripped.

On your property.

Yes.

Or on our alleyways that are shared.

Yes.

I have seen, I can't even count the number of people who have been in the process of injecting or using drugs or fornication, but

I cannot.

And then I've had people

with an semi-automatic weapon.

Maybe there's a dead body,

yes, there was a dead body, and that shut our place down.

I don't want to get into it, but that was ruled a suicide.

But at the time,

there were a lot of unusual circumstances that were very tragic, but the body was in a car at 105 degrees for two days.

So

I've seen all of this and I always ask myself, and when I walk through this beautiful almond orchard that we own, I look at the ground and I see almost nightly food,

butts, marijuana butts, used condoms, used toilet paper, tissue papers with body fluids,

abandoned, you name it, all over the ground.

I see broken bottles.

So people come in there.

So my point is this.

If I were to be armed and I thought about it, and I have a lot of guns, but they're all long guns.

If I were to have a handgun, I would say of all these incidents, once or twice a year, I would have had to point it at somebody.

And what would have happened?

I think that I don't know if it would have escalated or, and I don't know if I don't do that, well, I'm going to be shot sometime.

But I do know one thing that I cannot call law enforcement to come out and protect me.

They won't be out there in time, or they're overburdened, or they'll just say it's a trespasser.

But I don't know who any of these people are.

They have never asked permission.

I don't know why they think they can just drive from town and park in your orchard and commit a felony or do something.

I do know that anything that is of value, whether it's a brass valve on a drip line, or it's copper wire from a place, is being stolen.

Put it this way: anybody who drives out to a person's farm, enters it illegally, tries to escape notice and stays there for more than 30 seconds has a nefarious purpose.

They're not out there collecting leaves for their for their leaf collection, put it that way.

They're not studying the size of the almond crop.

And that's what's really scary.

And so I think everybody has an urban counterpart of that, and they don't know what to do.

At some point, do they have a rendezvous with a bullet or a knife?

And if they're afraid that they do, should they go through the long process of buying an automatic handgun, learning how to use it properly, learning how to store it in a home with children around, getting it licensed, getting a concealed permit, carrying it with you, knowing which person you might have to draw it.

It's a lot.

of responsibility but a lot of people are asking themselves what to do because they don't feel the state can protect them or wants to protect them or think they should protect them.

They think, well, you know what?

You've got too much money or you're overrepresented or you're privileged.

Kind of coming to you.

Yeah.

And the final editorial comment here is,

if your discourse and your narrative is you, you, you, you, you, you're privileged.

You have too much privilege.

You have too much money.

You're the wrong skin.

You, you, you, that filters down and people say if i attack that person

then there's going to be little social or political or legal consequences to that because everybody thinks that that person is a bad person right and so that's what happened after especially after george floyd when when everybody started to i mean george floyd was many things i felt bad when i think Officer Chauvin shouldn't have kept his knee so long on him.

But I mean, he was a convicted felon.

He put a pistol into a pregnant woman's stomach

in a house, home in housing.

Home invasion, right?

And yet you see him with angel wings on.

And so something happened to this country in this bout of insanity since May of 2020.

And

everybody could predict what was going to happen.

Given the discourse against the police and the romantic notion that anybody who commits a felony is a victim, you were going to see more people committing felonies and you were going to see less people trying to stop them.

And when you add into that formula, the George Sorrell's profile of the proper prosecuting attorney, which is not prosecuting and no bail and letting people out under the guise of COVID,

you got what you have.

You have today, we got, it was inevitable.

And now the citizen is saying, the government is saying to do you, and I'm not, I'm not, I want to be be clear to the listeners, I'm not exaggerating.

I'm not making this up.

When Joe Biden, remember he said specifically about a handgun, you don't need a, was it nine millimeter?

He said, you don't need a handgun.

He was, it wasn't just, so they do not want people to have the choice to defend themselves from violent criminals.

And if you do do that, you're facing the whole weight of the criminal justice system that pivots against you.

Right.

Take one for the team, Jack.

That's the idea.

Well, we're going to get into another crime thing, but if I may, and I've said this before, taking one for the team means, in my own family, not my current family, but my brothers and sisters, et cetera, growing up in the Bronx meant

in living in a quote-unquote good neighborhood, two parents both mugged, three of my four brothers mugged, two of my sisters raped, car

stolen, house excuse me apartment broken into and that was typical of new york and you had no you had no recourse yeah you took a lot for the team well it's but so did a lot of it within a proximity of uh two blocks of my home uh growing i knew you know you know four people who were murdered you know so i got you remember when uh Kendi, not Professor Kendi, it was Tanahitsi Coates, was the heartthrob of the bicoastal wealthy white progressive left.

And he wrote that, you know, the talk he talked, you know, he had to have every African-American young person had to be warned by his father that the police system would go after him at some point.

Right.

Not that 50% of African-Americans would commit a felony, and therefore it would be very, you have to be very vigilant that human nature is frail as it is, that people might overreact.

None of that context, just the straight, they're racist, they're going to go after you talk.

And I wrote a column for National Review and I said, I had a talk.

Well, my father was up with my mother, and he was in Oakland, and he was confronted.

My mother was in a state appellate court judge by four or five African-American males who were going to rob them.

And so my dad was a big guy, but he was 60 or something.

And he said, well, what do you need?

Tell me what you need.

So my wife can get out of here.

And so he gave them each $20 and they left him alone.

And when I was a graduate student, I had zero money.

And so I lived in a place called East Palo Alto,

which was right on 101.

And at one point, a guy put his hand through our apartment.

There's another guy and I rented it.

He was a kind of a weightlifter.

He was kind of a good guy.

And we took a bat and hit the hand and never saw it.

Although, I went down to the local liquor store to get a Coke a week later and I see this guy with a bandage on the same hand we, and he throws a beer can at my head.

And so, another time I'm riding my bicycle to Stanford University at the intersection of 101 and University Avenue, the gateway to Palo Alto, where I live.

And a carload of young people come by and they physically try to take me off my bike.

And because I had no money and I thought I have to have this bike, I clutched it as if it was a holy cross or something.

He couldn't give me away, and I was kicking and then people saw that the third thing i'm going to say is that

my wife worked at the veterans hospital and she got very close to i would say special needs people that had psychological or even things like down syndrome that were adults and one time we were walking down university avenue and she was talking to one of the people she saw that was a patient and a lot of people were making fun of him young teens.

And she said, oh, I know him.

So I walked over and,

you know, I said, you better stop that.

That person's disabled and got into a big raucous.

But my point is this,

based on these experiences, I said a lot of people have a talk too, Mr.

Coates.

They have a talk that say, it's not racist.

They just say that if you go into a particular neighborhood at a particular time,

you're going to be profiled, and there's going to be a particular profile.

It's not a stereotype, it's based on arithmetic logarithms.

And you better be careful.

And you should tell people that that are young and unacquainted.

And that's called the talk, just like you're the talk.

And I got so attacked by the left, said I was a racist, I was horrible.

But I believe that was true.

That every person should tell a young person, do not drive in Oakland after 10 o'clock at night.

No matter what color you are, do not do that.

Don't go on the BART way in the morning.

Don't do it in the early morning.

Don't do certain things.

And

that's considered racist.

Well, what does that mean when people say that?

And what are they trying to advance?

That you're not supposed to think that way?

You're not supposed to tell people that?

You're supposed to, is it sort of like the city of San Francisco when people on the BART were attacking people and they would not release the videos because they felt to release the videos that is the actual historical occurrence might represent an overrepresentation of black teens and therefore it would commit it would contribute to racism so therefore they would rather you know take a chance with the victims you know not knowing who might attack them this is all about it's all sending a message and the message is well you follow the law and you're a bourgeoisie uh person and you're not poor and you can be you're expendable you can take one for the team because we're not going to

we're not going to worry about you we're going to worry about the perpetrator and the social economic conditions under which prompted this noble person to turn bad for a nanosecond to do something to you that your social economic forces have done something to him.

His is concrete, yours is more nebulous, but nevertheless, you're guilty that's the message well victor we're going to talk a little more about crime i have a reader question that was sent in and then we'll uh wrap up this uh broadcast but we'll get to that question right after these important messages

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Okay.

Now, let's get into a.

We have a letter from Bill Stacey of Lexington,

South Carolina, and he emailed me and he's a big fan of the podcast and he said, I'd like to suggest a topic for discussion.

And here's what he wrote.

It's a big jump ball.

The criminal justice system has become a hugely profitable industry.

All the highly paid lawyers, prosecutors, judges, et cetera, have no interest in seeing crime disappear.

Think how many people would be out of work if crime suddenly stopped tomorrow, bailiffs, clerks, law enforcement, bail bondsmen analysts prison guards etc etc laws are written by lawyers for lawyers they have nothing to do with reducing crime or protecting honest citizens not to mention the left's efforts to break down civilization through increased crime victor what are your ideas on the situation and before you answer that i might say just personally there's some stuff in here i would disagree with and some i would and there's a lot packed in here but I think what Bill Stacey here is asking may indeed be the kind of thoughts that are on represent the thoughts of a lot of folks.

So, uh, what are your thoughts about this, Victor?

Well, I grew up in a, you know,

pretty wild place, southwestern Fresno County, it still is, or it's worse.

And I went to a high school where

it wasn't a picnic.

And so

I asked myself, what kept things normal?

Why in 1966 could you walk through Salma and not be attacked?

And the answer is the eternal answer across time and space throughout the century.

It's called deterrence.

And everybody understood that if you committed a crime, that there would be consequences.

And the consequences would be multi-dimensional, Jack.

Your name would be in the local paper, whether you were 18 or not.

It would say Victor Hansen, age 15,

if I didn't do this, but it would hypothetically say, Victor Hansen, age 15, was caught at the Selma food market shoplifting.

And then your family would be held in shame.

And then you would be sent to the Fresno County Juvenile Hall, which wasn't a picnic.

And so nobody wanted to do that.

And so there was a deterrent.

And crime was very, very low.

And so when you systematically

remove those deterrents from human nature, you say that we're not going to have any shame culture.

That's a puritanical, fossilized relic out of our racist, sexist past.

We're not going to do that anymore.

And we're going to consider why that person hit you over the head with a two by four and what were the social economic reasons why he did that.

And then we're going to ask, did you do anything before he did that?

Were you in a place you shouldn't have been?

Did you give him a dirty look?

Did you do something?

And then we're going to give you a second and third chance.

When you put all that, that's what the person is writing about,

because these are the expensive bureaucracies and agencies and institutions that were the alternate form of law enforcement, the non-deterrent.

Then what was the net result?

The net result was rampant crime.

And that's where we are today.

And the irony, of course, is that this was all dreamed up by liberal bicoastal elites and the main victims of it are inner city minority people.

That's where crime is the highest.

They are the most frequent victims like the 73-year-old poor man that was killed in Philadelphia this week.

And all you have to do is go to Google News and even the left will start to report some of these things because it's getting close to home.

As you notice, this crime is going out from the inner city.

And what the tragedy is that very liberal people live in the big American blue cities, Baltimore, Chicago, Washington, Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Houston, et cetera, Austin.

And when that criminality reaches a point where it starts to hit people other than minorities,

And these are very liberal people that should be shocked, but they're not, that the victims of their own ideological experimentations are poor people in the inner city.

But when it starts to affect them, then you'll see a gradual turning on george sorrel's uh entire theory of criminal justice victor i'm just curious as we close uh your your mother was a judge was she involved in criminal um yeah yeah she was it was she had a very strange

you know people say well you grew up rich or what no i didn't it was it was very strange my grandfather who was born in this house where I'm speaking in 1890, had three daughters and he didn't know how, and he spent his entire life, he inherited 40 acres and he bought his brother and sister out and he didn't get out of debt his little 120 acres for until he was in the 60s and he didn't think anybody would take it over so he had this weird idea in the 30s that his three daughters would go to college and therefore they would have skills and therefore they could keep the farm so he mortgaged his farm and he sent my mother to the University of Pacific and then to Stanford and she got two BAs one from UOP and one from College of Pacific at Stanford.

And then he wanted her to go to law school in 1946 when she graduated.

And then he took his other daughter and he sent her straight to Stanford, mortgage, and then she got a master's degree.

And then he had a third daughter who was severely crippled with polio.

And they tried it and she couldn't work.

And so she came back home.

And he paid for her to learn how to make Afghans on a huge loom.

But the point is, they all came back to this little farm.

And even though they had been at Stanford, they, I don't think, culturally were comfortable.

And they married people from this area.

And then we lived and then there was no money.

So we were in this very strange situation where I was growing up and my mom had a degree, law degree from Stanford and my aunt had one, a master's and she was a college teacher, but there was no money in farming.

And my father was trying to farm and he was trying to be a high school teacher and then a football coach.

And

we lived in this little farmhouse and helped my grandfather get by.

And she did this.

She raised, she didn't, nobody believe you should just leave your kids at home.

So she stayed home until I think I was eight or nine and she was in her 40s.

Then she went up.

and to the local court of appeal was a legal researcher and then she was a principal attorney and it was years and then when she was in her 50s all of a sudden they needed women i mean that was the big thing to appoint a judge And here was a woman who had done all this appellate court judge.

She was from Stanford.

She was a Democrat, but she had, she was on a farm, so she wasn't frightening to the right.

She knew all these conservative people in the area, three kids.

Her husband had a good, so they appointed her a superior court judge.

That was a criminal judge.

And she was juvenile court judge for a year.

And then she was made an appellate court judge.

I think she was the second woman in the state.

But then very tragically, she got a brain tumor in her mid-60s, early 60s, and fought it for two or three years.

It was a meningeoma that was supposed to be benign, but it turned out to be a rare, malignant meningeom and killed her.

And the whole family had died early.

Her sister had died of 49 of breast, they had a gene.

All three daughters died of cancer.

But that idea that he wanted to, it was very strange.

I'll just finish that.

He went through the depression and he had said to me, I don't think the small farm is going to survive, but I think the land is very valuable for people to live on.

So I've got to figure, and I don't think we have business sense to get big and corporate.

So I've got to have the next generations have to have off-farm income.

So he inculcated, you've got to go to college.

So when I grew up, my mom would say, there's two things you have to do.

You have to preserve this farm and this house and this, your grandfather's house, and you've got to go to college.

And that's the only way you're going to do it.

And you've got to do farming and college.

And the irony was that when I started to do that in the 80s, they were the most antithetical things in the world.

Every attribute that made you successful as a farmer would ensure your failure as an academic.

Everything that you were taught to be like and to act like an academic would ensure your failure as a farmer.

Plus,

your crops, raisins, are not exactly the most profitable crop and being a classics professor is kind of.

I mean, when I was 26 and I had my PhD and I came home, believe me, when a guy, I won't mention anybody's names because the people or relatives are still here, but when somebody takes your irrigation water and he's stealing it, and he knows it's

and he knows you're not going to do anything, and he knows the ditch tender is not going to do anything, and you come up as if you're a professor and say, wow, you know, this is an ambiguous situation.

And I think that I want to see, I want to see you emote and what is your position.

And then we can do this and we can have a discussion and we can art.

That's not going to work.

It's not like, that's not going to work.

You have to say,

you do that again and you're going to regret it.

And you're not going to do it anymore.

And you, you stole my water.

So I'm taking yours.

I'm taking it right now.

What are you going to do about it?

That's how you do it.

That's why academics are so ill.

And I was ill-prepared.

I mean, I had grown up that way, but I had been brainwashed through, you know, eight years, undergraduate and graduate.

It took me a whole year or two to be electric shocked back into the real world.

Normalized.

I never quite fit in either world.

I wasn't a very good academic and I wasn't a very good farmer.

And as a victim, I can plead victimhood.

It was because of my upbringing, Jack.

Victor, I love your nasally academic mockery voice.

It's very funny.

Okay, so we're going to close out as we normally do, thanking our listeners for listening, whether it's on, oh, wait, I forgot.

I'm eating a grape right now, so I feel like I'm

performing.

Oh, good.

It only costs a dollar a grape.

Yeah, almost.

I think we mentioned before the wild bunch on this, this particular.

Oh, so that was Edmund O'Brien.

That was the older one.

Edmund O'Brien out there.

Yeah, that was the name of the guy as the old guy.

Yeah,

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