E573 Morgan Wallen

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He's arguably the most popular musician on the planet.

He's the East Tennessee Elvis, baby.

You know what he is.

I mean, he's so prolific.

He's very competitive.

And I admire his attention to detail.

Today's guest is one of a kind, Mr. Morgan Wallace.
Yeah, dude, good to see you, bro. Good to see you too, man.
Yeah, it's awesome, man. What's been going on? Yeah, my mom was visiting for my birthday.
We went to the Opry. You did? Yeah.
Cool, man. It was cool, dude.
Trace Adkins. Did she come up here a lot or no? No, she hadn't been here since I moved here.
It was your birthday? Yeah. Oh, happy birthday.
Yeah, thanks, man. When is your birthday? Two days ago, March 19th.
Okay, cool. Yeah, my parents are in town as well, but I'm trying to get them to move here.
Oh, you are? Yeah, I'm working on that. That's been going on for the last few weeks now, so we'll see.
Yeah. Yeah, dude, your dad's so funny, dude.
Yeah, he's the man. He's unreal.
Dude, because we went on, what was, we went with, is it Morgan Wallen, the foundation? Morgan Wallen Foundation? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Up there in the Greenville area.
Yeah. During the flood stuff.
Yeah, during Hurricane Helene. Yeah.
And your dad came, and it was awesome, man. They had the food truck.
They had, you know, they were doing food drives, and I met some people up there. We went and visited the houses and stuff.
That was awesome. Yeah, yeah.
That was a cool day, man. It was good.

I wish we did stuff like that more often.

I guess we could.

Well, I think that's why.

I mean, you have a foundation that can do it

when you're not able to do it.

For sure.

But yeah, I agree with you.

It feels like.

It feels good to actually get out and do it yourself.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

It can be a little stressful.

You know, you got to keep it timed up, right,

to where you're not sticking around in one place too long

and all that stuff.

You know, you got to be a little tactful about it, but it's good.

Yeah, and Tony Vitello, is that his name?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, dude.

He came out.

He's the best.

Yeah, he's cool too, man.

Dude, he's cool.

He always helps with stuff involved in our foundation, and we stay in touch on a regular basis.

Y'all do?

Yeah.

I tried to invite him to a bracket the other day. I was like, you're probably not allowed to do this are you he said no okay all right that's that i'm in that bracket yeah yeah i tried to invite him into that bracket you and me you're tied right now i think we're in first yeah we are i saw that i checked this morning dude yeah one thing that was crazy about your dad though he was fasting whenever we're doing that that's right he'd been on a 40 day fast yeah he's done that for like as long as i can remember i remember him like when i was growing up he would just go and like stay out in the in the wild you know in a tent or something and just drink apple juice or something i'm like dude how how is this possible you know that doesn't sound like that sounds like hiding from your wife yeah yeah he needed some space didn't have enough money to get get a trailer or something but that was i just didn't because it was crazy because i'd just been looking into fasting because people say it like if you fast it'll help like eat away the cancer cells that are in your body so when he was like i've been on 40 days well they say that that only takes like a couple days to do that what, what you're talking about, right? Yeah.
Like if you fast for a couple of days, it'll do that. Yeah.
I think. Yeah.
No, that's right. You get past 48 hours.
Yeah. I think what he was doing it for was, um, spiritual purposes.
Yeah. That's what he used to do it for.
And that's probably what he's doing it for now. Yeah.
A team of researchers from MSK has shown for the first time that fasting can reprogram

the metabolism of natural killer cells, helping them to survive in the harsh environment in and around tumors while improving their cancer fighting ability. But it just blew my mind.
I was like, God, this dude's on 40 days. Put this dude back in the Bible.
Yeah, I mean, dude, I don't understand how that's physically possible. You know, I pretty much have been for the last little while fasting until,

you know,

noon.

I'll do my workout and like everything

in the first part of the day

without eating.

Yeah.

But I can't imagine

going a whole day

without doing it

to be honest.

He's got some bandwidth

on him, man.

Yeah,

he's a pretty strong-willed guy.

He's always so chipper, dude.

Yeah,

I just,

I'd love to get

and hang out with him.

That was probably,

and he would tell stories

from getting in the military and stuff. Some of that stuff is bonkers.
Oh, yeah, some of that stuff ain't going to be repeated on here. He makes me look calm.
Dude, that's the crazy part. You start talking to him, you're like, oh, well, some of this checks out.
For sure it checks out. We don't need a DNA test in this family.
But you said they're moving down here? Yeah, I'm trying to get them to. We'll see how it goes it goes but I'm working on it I've been talking to them about it for a while But you know just Somebody uprooting their entire life to come somewhere But me and my sister live down here It's a tricky It's always tricky getting stuff like that to happen But we're working on it Yeah that's a lot man Is it I know you have a son Indio, yeah.
His name's Indigo, but I call him Indy. Indy, right.
What's that been like, dude? Because that's been probably one of the biggest things in your life, I'm sure. I mean, outside of your, I mean, like, yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think. I don't even know how to ask that question.
I think it just gets better and better as, you know, the older he gets. I mean, it's always been cool.
But, you know, when he's he's four years old now he'll be five this year just the personality that keeps coming out and the relationship that you build you know and he's he's got a little he's got a little sass on him like he's got a he's got a little attitude you know which is i like i like that spunk you know like the uh yesterday my dad was telling him uh he was trying to get him to eat it's a it's kind of a task to get them to eat, to sit still long enough to eat, you know? And my dad was telling him he was trying to get him to eat it's kind of a task to get him to eat to sit still long enough to eat and my dad was like hey man if you don't eat I'm going to put you in the bedroom you got to go to sleep or whatever I don't know exactly what my dad said to him but he looked at my dad and he said I don't want you to stay here anymore all day brother wow I mean like it's you know and you're behind your dad you're telling him like yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah uh just anything to keep him keep him rocking but he's a he's a sweetheart but whenever you get him yeah oh yeah he uh he's almost too sweet he's too nice to everyone like people he doesn't know you know like hey man we don't like everybody man

we don't know these people man stranger danger yeah yeah so i'm trying to teach him a little bit of that but he's got he's wild definitely he emailed me the other day asking me to send him some zins i was like dude you gotta yeah yeah i couldn't believe he figured out you know how to get a hold of the ipad like that i'm not i'm not really big on letting him you know sit around with an iPad, but I guess he got my

nieces or something.

She probably had him since...

Oh, yeah. like that i'm not i'm not really big on letting him you know sit around with an ipad but i guess he got my my nieces or something we probably had him send or he probably had her send the email you know hey haven type this out for me um threes or sixes does he yeah yeah does he i just downgraded to the threes man man.
I'm weaning myself off. Are you? I don't know.
I might just be putting 2 in. That's great, dude.
That's just a little bit of mouth math, homie. Yeah, yeah.
But you'll see a dude with like 11 3s in. I'm like, bitch, just get a damn 20 or something.
That's like Andrew. Oh, your cousin? Yes, yes.
He'll have a multitude in there. He's only on the Citrus, though.
He's hilarious, dude. Well, I'll ask you about him in a little bit, man.
All right. Does your son have like a favorite song of yours or anything? Yeah, it's a song that's not out yet.
Like this album that I've been working on, this is the first time where he's, it seems like he's really starting to put two and two together, you know? Yeah. I would come home after I'd been writing and I'd show him songs this time.
This is the first time that he's ever cared, you know? And I was, there's a song called Eyes Are Closed on my record and I brought it home that night. You know, we wrote it that day and took it home that night and I was just playing.
I wasn't really playing it for him. I just had it kind of playing in the background because it was my first time hearing the demo of what we had just done that day.
And he was in the background. He kind of, you know, moseyed on over there and started being like, ooh, what's this, you know? And then after it was done, he said, I like that song, Daddy.
Really? And it was like the first time he had ever done that, you know? So it was a special moment for me, something I'll never forget. And he said, play that again.
Oh, that's cool. And I was like the first time he had ever done that you know so it was a special moment for me something i'll never forget and he said play that again you know and i was like yeah this song's a hit for me no matter what you know so um that was the first time i had really seen him like all those you know dots start connecting yeah i bet that's special for a while he uh he thought that soul by john michael mc me singing He thought He was like Play Daddy's fast song He called it the fast song Soul to the lady And I sang And he thought He thought that was me singing I said damn man I mean that dude sounds pretty good But come on He's just bidding on pigs at his daycare? Yeah, probably.
Well, I went down in the ground of candy. Is that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He called it the fast song, and I finally broke it to him. I said, that ain't me, dude.
Oh, yeah, and the email he sent me, he's like, yeah, you need to listen to my father's hit Cotton Eye Joe as well. Oh, yeah.
Well, we are from Knoxville, you know. He's seen that sign a few times.
That checks out, man. As you make more music, so the new album, I'm the Problem.
Mm-hmm. As you make more music, because you have been so prolific, I think that's the word.
What does prolific mean? I think that's the right word, too. Okay.
But I don't know if either one of us should be. If there the dictionary guys it's like producing much fruit producing much fruit foliage or offspring actually it says um i've been that prolific in that term but yeah presenting one plentiful it says uh producing many works but is it does it get tougher to like okay how do i have I not have a song that sounds, that's similar to a song I previous had? Because when you have so many songs, does that get a little bit tough? Or what's that like? Yeah, I think it does.
You know? Like, has there been a great song that comes, that's like you guys have put together, and then you're like, oh man, it's just a little too close to this? Well, for this album, I feel like I just didn't let it get to that point you know if at

least if i was a part of writing it you know i think i can't remember exactly how many ones i

was and wasn't a part of writing um but if a song came in from like as a pitch i kind of knew

immediately i was like oh these people are writing this might have made my last record maybe

probably not but you know it's like it's like that's what it felt like to me right a lot of

the this might have made my last record. Maybe.
Probably not. But, you know, it's like that's what it felt like to me.
Right. A lot of the pitches were that.
Yeah, because I guess people are just going, they don't know where your next step is and who you are. There was a select group of writers that I kind of, you know, told a little bit what I was trying to accomplish, you know, and I feel like that really helped me find a certain one of the sounds that's on my record.
But for me, when I'm writing, you can kind of tell from the idea almost if the song is going to be similar or not, you know, and that was something that was tougher for me because a lot of the things that were successful and that were easy in the past were just like whiskey, drinking, you know, like all that stuff, and I've kind of just almost explored every angle of that that's possible you know like there's still there's still some possible ways to get get that in there but i tried to i tried to dig deeper man and you know and i and i a lot of my guys that i write with we kind of kept a at least for me when i was writing we kept five or six guys we didn't always write together but you know that that kind of core group of guys, we all just had a good sense of what we were shooting for and just trying not to say the same thing that I've said before and, you know, incorporating new things. So I feel like it was harder.
You know, I had to work harder. Yeah? Like, what do you mean, like finding new angles, like dropping? Yeah, just finding new angles and just thinking up ideas, you know, and there's, you know, or just maybe somebody had an idea and they brought it in and i'm like well that's pretty good but like trying to find a way to to make it something different you know like it would sounds like that idea would have been on the last record but maybe i can flip this or flip that into making it something that's more unique you know so just trying to dig deeper and not just not just saying oh yeah not just being content with something you know yeah just digging deeper and because you can kind of yeah it's funny i was talking to um charlie handsome the other night i'll dude that guy's bro him and marissa is that is marissa yeah marissa yeah bro they're hilarious bro they are hilarious she's so funny dude she kind of keeps him in check i feel like it's the pairing both of them uh because he's kind of so kind of rough around the edges like i don't know maybe that's a crazy it's not a crazy thing to say about him no definitely not i think he'd probably agree with that yeah he's he's just so he's so real he's just he's pretty blunt guy yes pretty blunt yes which i've always loved that about him you know when he first got to to town i guess that was probably we wrote if i know me i mean i had to be either 17 or 18 when i first met him wow and 2017 or 18 not when i was 17 or 18 years old but um you know he kind of i think he came from la so he had like this i don't know i guess it's different out there you know if it seems like it's like a dick measuring contest out there a lot well people are probably yeah yeah that could be true and i think he had brought a lot of that mindset to nashville you know and i whenever we were first writing i'm like hey man you know like you you ain't gotta be you ain't gotta be like that you know like it ain't it ain't like that here yeah you know so we just uh and i would give him a hard time when he would be acting like that i'd always you know talk shit and stuff so we just became instant friends like that kind of i could see that 100 dude yeah because what did i say oh he gotten married right and his wife one night i think that she probably had a cocktail or two and invited me to their wedding right yeah and i had to work that weekend but i saw pictures you win i think hardy went it looked like a good time.
I mean, it was a beautiful wedding, man? Yeah. And I had to work that weekend.
But I saw pictures you win. I think Hardy went.

It looked like a good time.

I mean, it was a beautiful wedding, man.

I mean, really, really beautiful.

It was on an island somewhere.

Yeah, an Isle of Mirada.

It was like, you know, you heard of that show Bloodline?

Oh, yeah.

It was that compound where that was filmed.

Oh, damn.

So it was legit.

God.

Yeah, but, and then so when I saw it, I said, hey, man, I'm sorry I couldn't make it to the wedding. He's like, well, you know, we weren't really expecting you there.
Yeah. I was in the damn wedding, and I don't know if they was expecting me there.
I showed up about an hour before we were supposed to start and left before it was over. But I was proud to be there, man.
It was cool. I really appreciated it.
It was cool. But he's just like, look, man, we don't super know each other that good he said right but it was so it was so like just the realest shit ever he's like and if we become better friends and you know and that happens then yeah man i'd expect you to be at my you know if i get divorced or if i if i do a renew of the vows i said but i'd expect you to be my divorce now it was just like and i was like dude you so right.
I was like, and then it made me want to get to know him more because it was like just cutting through the bullshit. I love that.
That's a definite, that's an accurate way of describing him. Which I think is probably what makes him a good songwriter too because it's like you got to, like, if you too much bull, it's like if you can cut through the bullshit.
Well, yeah, he'll definitely tell you like like or if you're if you're on something he's like man that sucks you know and that's what i mean i feel like i have a pretty good gauge of of you know what's good and what's not but like it's it's nice to have another person in the room who will tell you straight up yeah because especially when you when you do get to like get to this level people sometimes don't check you the way they should you know they'll just let you rock with it and you know, whatever. Damn dude.
No, it's just interesting to hear you say that. Um, I had a guy a few years ago, I was, I'd taken out a guy to, we went to lunch and he's married and we're both straight, but we went and had lunch together and, um, thanks for clarifying, but yeah, he was just, he's been like a manager of like some of the most popular comedians over time and I was talking to him he goes well you kind of have to evolve with your audience he's like you know going back to kind of what you said earlier about like you know some people probably present songs to you that would have been great an album or two ago it's like damn that would have been but it's like you evolve yeah I mean you can't blame you can't blame them you know what I mean you can't expect them to know what's in your head and what you're going to do next.
Yeah, and they only have, like, the footprints that they've seen you so far make that they can even judge on. Right, right.
Like, I've heard wasted on you. I've heard that 2.0 18,000 times in my inbox.
A lot of them don't even make it to me because it gets snipped before it even gets to me. But I've heard plenty of them, you know.
Oh, yeah, for sure. I understand it, but, you know, you can't settle like that.
Yeah. But you also don't want to go too far either because then your fans are like, dude, you know, what's he on? Yeah, he's Chris.
What's his name? Chris Gaines? Is he just taking a lot of mushrooms or something? You know, like you can get that guy too. This man at one time goes one thing you have to you have to evolve with your audience if you try to hide that you're evolving or that you're growing because your audience also grows right yeah so he's like if you try it's it's it can be a trap sometimes to try to just uh fit your fit your current feet back in your old footprints and i just thought it was interesting to hear somebody say that i'd never really thought about because sometimes you're like oh this worked and i gotta stay right here but you're not there anymore you know yeah and i mean even if it's just subtle changes it don't have to be like huge things you know yeah you don't have to come out and do like a mozart style right right you know like my last album i had plenty of trap beats and stuff like that this time i was like hey man let's just let's tone that back a little bit i'm tired i tired of it.
I'm tired of hearing it. So if I'm tired of it, they probably tired of hearing it.
You know, so just like certain things that you can still get that same swag or that same, you can accomplish certain things without doing the same exact thing. Yeah.
So it's just simple stuff like that in some cases. Do you feel like you've always had a pretty good like instinct about that kind of stuff? Like, is that something you think you really have, like you kind of can feel? I like to think so, man.
I feel like I can tell when something's getting tired. Yeah.
That's a gift, man. Yeah, I guess so.
Maybe God gave me that. I don't know.
I've also learned from people that I've been around for the last 10 years who I feel like I've learned from and that have helped me with that as well. You know, I don't think I was just fully just, I think I had a knack for it already, but I think I've, you know, developed it and learned from people as well.
So, yeah. I've always had a tough time, like, because I've always been like a do-it-yourself kind of guy.
Like, I feel like I know what I'm doing. Like, I work hard.
But then recently I've had to i've had to like realize i need help more it's like i can't always give this guy a hard time i need it i need to you know i'm saying like i can't always butt up against every wall you know because i'll just do that it's just my nature because i don't want help a lot of times yeah yeah man that shit has been that's a big that's a big deal yeah it's been getting better though recently yeah even just like just little things I just started noticing it's getting a little bit better. And the irony is everything's been easier.
Yeah. The more I let help come in.
I think there's certain areas in my life, like with music, I've always kind of, I've been a good teammate. I don't know why that is.
Maybe I've just always liked the aspect of feeling like you on a team, I guess, cause I played sports and stuff so much growing up, you know, like for me, I enjoy the camaraderie of making music with my buddies and doing all that stuff, you know, so I've always kind of enjoyed the, the, the help and the team aspect of that. But there's other areas in my life where I, I'm like you, where I'm like, I don't, you know, whatever.
No, no, I'm good.

Yeah, I'm good.

So it doesn't necessarily permeate throughout my entire life. It's just that one thing where I've been able to do that.

Yeah.

Oh, dude, I'll be sitting in the damn bottom of a hole.

There'll be a thousand people out there with rope,

and I'll be like, I'm good.

Yeah, I'll find one.

I'll figure something.

There's one down here somewhere.

And they'll be up there, and they're like, this dude's an idiot. Yeah.
Yeah, you're damn right I am. Yeah, I'm proud of it, too.
Yeah, I'm proud of it. That's the best part.
Is it tough in your life? I mean, dude, your music, it's like, it's just been such a wave that, like, I mean, You couldn't travel around town without seeing every guy at a stoplight look like you know look like a morgan wall and look like a like a hear your music ever every store like are there moments for you where it's like god this guy's got a ton of like it's like we're almost where you become too much for you like is that ever like you don't does that make any sense yeah no it does um it's it's still it's still weird and there's parts of that that i don't like i mean i think anybody who has to deal with that it's not ideal you know it's not ideal to go everywhere and even if you don't get get like you know bothered you you you were on edge the whole time because you thought you might it's like there's just not a lot of not there's there's things that you just don't do yeah you just don't do them anymore yeah you know but that's okay that's why that's why i've taken up hunting so much i think you know because i can go be with my buddies i'm in the middle of nowhere i can be at ease i can not stress out um you just find ways to supplement it i think you know yeah yeah it's kind of funny you can't you can't really go to a bar anymore because there'd be too much hassle and it's probably best thing for you it's definitely the best thing for me you know I mean if you're using a bar as a specific example that's definitely that's definitely the best thing for me I ain't't been in a bar since the last time

I was in a bar

that everybody knows about.

How is that?

That feels like a bar right there.

It does.

I ain't been in a bar

since the last time I was in a bar.

It sounds like an old country song

for sure.

But yeah,

that's the most public time

I was in a bar.

That's the last time

I was in a bar.

Dude, have you seen those?

There's an AI thing that makes country songs.

There's one about a bar.

See if you can pull it up, Trevin.

Is it good?

Dude, it's pretty funny.

Let me see.

This shit kind of surprised me.

What of them's about?

Oh, it's the right one, Kitchen. And the second one right there with the guy and the lady in the truck, yeah.
Turn that up for a second. It's just ridiculous.
Look, change it to whiskey and have Morgan Wallen sing it. That's one of the number one comments.
Hey, start it back over and just turn it up a little bit. We can't hear it, But this is just like AI made this.
I woke up in the morning to crack myself a beer. Then went down to the kitchen to grab myself a beer.
Made myself some breakfast, another beer, of course. That's when my baby said to me, I want to get a divorce.
So now I definitely need to go grab another beer.

Or two, or three, so I can start thinking clear.

Oh, it's a perfect day for beer.

That's good, man.

But it's just crazy that AI wrote that.

Like, it's just somebody just put it in.

Dude, AI is nuts, man.

It's just making beer songs.

I was talking to my mom about AI this morning.

But that is, I mean, you know, could be a hit. Hey, we're sitting here listening to it.
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You know what I'm talking about. about bad words what uh what do you look what are you listening to right now man and everybody asks that uh it's a good question i've been trying to find new stuff to listen to i don't find a whole lot of new stuff to listen to i've been listening to like old i'm mostly only listening to music if i'm driving or if i'm working out that's about the only time i listen to music which i do those things a decent amount you know kind of same man that's kind of when i do it yeah um stephen wilson i've been listening to yeah he's he's good he's really good great lyricist yeah yeah he's he's a special talent that song about his um my father's son hardy played that one with him god that's good yeah that guy is really really good zach top's voice is really amazing i don't i don't listen to country music a whole lot i think i've always kind of been that way.
I know, Zach. I, that's good.
Yeah, that guy is really, really good. Zach Top's voice is really amazing.
I don't listen to country music a whole lot.

I think I've always kind of been that way. I know

who Zach Top is, and I do agree.

He's very solid.

Jesse Murph, Big X to the Plug. You've heard that song?

They have a collab

that's pretty dope. That's cool.
Yeah, it's good.

Me and Big X,

we almost did a song,

but I don't know. I didn't.
I actually sent him a song, and he didn't finish it um but i don't know i didn't i actually sent him a song

and he didn't finish it so i don't know that's on him um i guess i don't know what he was doing he was jail did he i think so what not not a long time not long enough not i went to jail too man

hey if you behind bars

write a couple

yeah

no it was kind of spur of the moment thing though I got a song on my record called Miami I haven't heard that one yet They sent me a couple of the songs Did they? Yeah, it's cool Yeah, Miami, it's like a It's a Keith Whitley flip So it's like an old You know Miami, Miami, that song? Have you Miami Miami what took you so long I want you never call oh no I've never seen it people talk about Keith Whitley that's one of his like bigger type songs I guess but we flipped it and turned it into more of like a it's a little more like rap style but it's cool man I like it it's cool it seemed like it could use a rapper on there um i didn't end up using a feature we ended up just making a second verse but it's it's one of those songs where i could it wouldn't be surprising if we got like a remix and did that you know what i mean once it's out and all that stuff um what you you're famous like you guys had this whole tan like these different walkouts that you did over the years right Really fun and thanks for letting me be part of the one in Nashville Yeah yeah Do you have a favorite one that kind of stood out to you And no judgment to any of them I mean Neyland Stadium is That's my home That's where I grew up Peyton put those pads on Peyton that one was really good The baseball team one we did was really good too. But that Peyton one, that was one of the, you know, it's hard to beat.
Anything that happened those two nights at that stadium, I find myself just being like, yeah, that's pretty – those are like some of the best memories I've had. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. That's so sick.
He's so ridiculous. He came out looking like he was actually about to go play with his facial expressions and stuff.
Hey, I think half the boosters wanted to sign. Some boosters I think were trying to holler at him.
Probably. Hey, man, you got another year of eligibility.
We'll find something else. Yeah, man, that was special, dude.
So cool. Yeah, but the walkouts, they're just, the energy that comes from those, it just could last you, I mean, maybe not the entire show, but it'll last you a while, you know, and then once you get out there and compound the energy that comes along with the actual show, it's just, it's a rush.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's that coach right there that we put that water on.
Yeah, Hypel?'s thugging He's big thugging right there He was dude What else has happened So You have your The first time you're gonna play Your new album will be At Sand in my Boots Fest I'll play some of my album there Okay You know the album comes out on the 16th I'll play on the 18th I'll probably I'll play some of my album there. Okay.
You know, the album comes out on the 16th.

I'll play on the 18th.

I'll play some of the new stuff.

That's another thing, man.

It's hard picking set lists at this point, too.

Oh.

You know?

That gets real tricky.

Do you do that yourself?

You kind of organize it?

Yeah, me and my band do it together.

You know, a lot of it's a lot of it's data driven you know because you can see you know which songs people the majority of people want to hear like oh yeah you're always going to miss somebody's favorite song you're probably gonna miss my favorite song you know in some in some sets um just trying to figure out a way this year since i'm you know i'm only playing 20 shows so probably if i can try to figure out a way to not play the same set list all the time you know because last year i i'd interchanged a couple but i think it's going to be i'm going to make a bigger effort to try to make the set list different for at least each night. Maybe not every single show be a different set list, but like night one, night two.
Yeah. Because we're playing two nights in each place.
So trying to separate the two nights as far as music goes should be interesting because we've never done that before. We would always just do like maybe change one or two songs.
I'm thinking maybe a little more than that. I like that.
Yeah, that way if he wanted to come for both nights too they couldn't hear different stuff yeah a lot of people already do come both nights so that'd be nice for them too yeah there's really no way to do it perfectly somebody's going to be disappointed or you know at any point oh he didn't play this song or he didn't play that song but trying our best i'm not going to play for four hours either so you know yeah you gotta keep it within reason we got to meet in the middle guys yeah yeah i'll do my best i don't want to sing for four hours you know i'll two hours about maybe a little longer two hours you put it on man i like my show like i'll be out there for maybe about an hour and 15 minutes is probably the sweet spot for me to be on stage, I think, with a comedian where they're just,

because we don't have any backup instruments,

so people are like, fuck, somebody tapping a violin or something with this bastard, you know,

people get a little bit tired of it.

But I can't, and that burns me out, man.

I used to do two shows, now I only do one a night,

but I can't imagine.

Oh, you used to do two shows in one night?

Yeah.

Back to back?

Yeah.

When you first started as a comedian.

I think I remember you telling me that.

Yeah, I think, like, even whenever I first came to town, you guys one night and uh and saw me over at zany's man that was cool yeah and you came and did my podcast early man and that helped me uh it helped give me some uh just support in the community i didn't even realize it was early because to me i'd been listening to you for like a little while you know so i already knew you and knew your knew about you and knew your story and everything so it wasn't like hey come do this weird new guys podcast i already knew who you were so well it's just support you know it was nice to have some support right when i got into town yeah yeah no i'm glad i'm glad we got to do it man damn that was in 2020 was it really god dang bro look how happy you were i think i got i'm joking dude we both look happy as the pictures happy. That's the pictures we picked.
I look like I'm in pain. You look like you just came from the dentist.
I look so white. Yeah, I think we had some...
We had bad lighting then. Golly.
We bought some better lights. Looking pasty, boy.
What's up with the free time now? So you go hunting. Where do you guys like to go? Well, all over over the place man i i got a farm outside of town that we that we've been you know planting and oh getting getting all out there getting all the agriculture right um i don't think you've been to my farm have you oh no i may have just been your house yeah you just been to my house i believe but yeah so we got we got deer and tur.
Oh, yeah. So that's pretty much what it's geared towards.
It's a really good—we bought it. It was already a really good turkey farm.
And then we've just been adding a lot of the agriculture and all that stuff to try to make it a better deer farm. What makes a good setup like that? Like, what's the best way to make it set up where it's challenging to the hunter but also like i mean it's always going to be challenging when deer hunting just you know because you only get to kill two two bucks in a in a season in a state you know so you're not you're not just going to go out there and shoot everything you see oh you know what i mean like you you may let a really good deer walk because you're trying to get a better you know that there's a better deer in the area or you believe there's a better deer in the area you know like we have cameras and stuff now so we can kind of take inventory on stuff but um you're not you don't i think people i don't know what people think about hunting but like you don't just go out there and just massacre animals you know right you're not out there with a handgun or not no but i mean it's uh it's interesting i mean the main thing is food you know food and bedding that's that's really all that's what those are the two main things that you need to have a good hunting farm okay as long as you got their the type of bedding that they want and preferably the type of food that they want then you're going to keep those deer on your farm because they ain't gonna they don't need to leave to go find either one of those right they're happy so they'll stay in their home range and they'll stay there and you can grow them you know like we don't want to at least try to get them to be five years old um and that's that's minimum that what we want to do um you know depending on where you're at in the country people will let them get older um it's it's a little different i think depending on your land depending because you know like if you if you spend all this time and money and then you got your neighbor who if your deer walks across to their property line they might shoot it before you you were planning on shooting it so you know it's it's a little bit of it can be a little bit of a game um so there can be property beef property line beef like that oh yeah there's all't hear that.
Yeah, there's a lot of hunting property line beef. And what about reindeer? Do you ever see reindeer out there or not? I personally came across one.
My son did just get a reindeer call, and one of my buddies from Alabama made him a reindeer call. Oh, wait for Christmas? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, it's hilarious. It was cool.
Bro, you got to use that with him. That with him that's pretty cool imagine that dude you're a kid and you think it was a nice reindeer call you're bringing in santa dude yeah he thinks that's what he's doing i mean that's that would be i don't even think he's actually tried it like he uh i guess that was probably last last christmas so he's just he's came he's just got a lot of new interest and stuff this year so i think i was i came home this this past weekend and i was working on my turkey call just in my mouth you know and he he was trying to like mimic me and stuff it was it was hilarious he's just screaming basically is it fun to watch him kind of grow like what has it been interesting is there moments where you see him learn something and you almost see him learn it? Does that kind of happen? Yeah, it's cool.
I've been working on him on how to catch and stuff. I've just been using a soft basketball.
I've got one of those basketball goals you hang up on the door. Oh, yeah, there's just so much fun when you're a kid.
I use it more than him still. You're him rebound for you.
Yeah, every time I'm on a phone, I'll just put my headphones in and just start shooting for like 30 minutes. Since it's been cold, especially.
Yeah. But, yeah, just, you know, when we first started, he couldn't do it.
And then, you know, a couple weeks later, he's like catching, and, you know, he can catch a bounce pass bounce pass now you know it's just like just seeing those things progress in such a short period of time is cool does it make you have a different appreciation for your own dad or is it adjusted y'all's relationship any you think is that a weird question to ask no it's not a weird question i i think yeah i think it probably does you know i mean me and my dad we butted heads a lot up, especially once I got to high school just because I was kind of ridiculous. And I think he was kind of ridiculous when he was that age too.
So he was just trying to, hey, don't be like me when I was that age. You know, like I know what this turns out.
I know how this ends usually. So we just butted heads.
You know, you don't believe anything your parents say when you're that age. No, it's the last person last person you want to believe it's so crazy it's not even possible i there wasn't possible in my head to believe that that's crazy to think now i'm like damn they were right but in my head it was not physically possible to think that they could be right it just wasn't it's kind of crazy because like oh these two people that love me and care about raised me this far they're trying to ruin my life yeah that's what you think it's wow totally it's it's insane really but um that's what i thought but yeah i mean after you know i moved out and once i really once i think i got moved down here to nashville that's when we we became even closer yeah closer than ever because i moved here pretty young you know i was 22 when i I moved here and almost been here 10 years coming up.
So it's, I think just having that space and then just being able to, you should get older too, you know, and you're, Oh, that's the biggest thing. You're like, Oh shit.
No, that other shit even matter. Like, yeah, you may, maybe you could have went about it a little different or whatever, but like the intentions were right.
Yeah. I mean, I just got spending time with my mom is like a lot of my life.
It's's like i'm waiting for my mom to like show me certain attention or affection or something the other night we're just sitting there we're watching at the opry and she went there like 40 years ago or something you know and um and i'm like it's kind of stupid but i just reached over and grabbed my mom's hand you know because it's like it's not about me being a kid anymore it's being, she's an older woman now. So it's like, let me just be an adult and almost act like I'm the parent, you know, I'm not the parent now, but let me, I don't know.
It's an old part of me, like a child part of me would be like, oh man, it's my brother. I wish my mom would, you know, pat me on the back, just do something, you know, show me a little bit of love or something.
But then I just grabbed her hand and then we just watched it together. And it was like me kind of, I don't know, it was a little moment for me where I was like, I'm not going to be that old grudge.
I'm just going to move forward. That's cool.
Yeah. But it was just interesting.
Or just to get my mom a hug while we're sitting there, you know? Yeah. Me and my mom, my mom always, we always had like a super, super good relationship.
She was always loving and stuff, you know? So I just, I felt all that for my mom. But me and my dad, you my dad you know like i said we butted heads so it was more of just getting past that phase in my life but for i didn't once it was once that phase was over it was over right to me yeah i know i wasn't i don't i don't have any sort of hard feelings towards it oh yeah dude your dad is so funny dude right when i see him my face just fucking smile i just me too He's just energetic.
You said he was chipper. That's the right word for him.
And he's been fasting for like 700 days, dude. At this point, I don't know.
He ain't fasting right now. I've been seeing this man eat during this trip he's been down here.
He ain't fasting. Don't let him lie to you.
Because I've been basically eating clean and stuff, trying to get ready for tour and all that and they're you you know bribing me with all these hamburgers and stuff i'm like man go cook at somewhere else what uh what about motorcycling you you got a motorcycle i remember last time i saw you you were talking about did you get one yeah i got it oh you have a harley hat on today i do yeah gang I do, yeah. Gang, gang, that's nice, dude.
Let's go, baby.

I got this awesome vintage thing.

Yeah, that's tough, dude.

Yeah, man, I enjoy it.

You do?

Yeah, which I kind of had ridden dirt bikes and stuff a little bit,

you know, enough to understand my way around a bike already. Right.

So me and Cody and TD and a few other of us, a few others, we all got bikes. Look at that shit.
I'll buy the cologne, whatever they're selling right there. It does look like that.
It really does, huh? Exhaust by Morgan Wallen. Exhaust.
Smells like a fart. That wouldn't be a bad cologne, though, dude.
Smells like Morgan Wallen's farts, man. What if you had a blow to start that thing? What if you had one of those breath things on? I'm surprised I don't.
Has anybody ever had a motorbike that has that on it? I'm sure they have. I'm surprised I don't have that on every vehicle I've got.
Shout out to Davidson County. Sorry, man.
That's hilarious. No, that's a handsome picture, man.
That looks nice. Thanks, man.
But you get out there. I like it because it's like you got your helmet on.
Nobody knows who you are. You get out there.
You got to focus on it, too. You ain't on your phone.
You ain't doing doing anything else you're just thinking about what you got to do on that bike yeah so i enjoy that aspect of it a lot you like at least me i physically can't do anything else other than you know think about what's going on on this bike be locked in yeah so i like that aspect of a lot you know you'll be riding and all of a sudden it's five hours have gone by and you just don't realize really that that happened yeah damn i gotta get out there sometime i'm just so bad i'm bad at being in motion well that might not be for you then yeah i'm better i'm better what do you mean wait what do you mean keep going i'm bad at just like being in motion and having to think at the same time i'm more of a stop and think well then move what are you what are we thinking about just, whatever the next thing has to be. It's just hard for me.
Like, I get, I just, I think I just... You can just be in the back of the line then.
Yeah, yeah. I'll be in the back.
You can just follow us. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I would be a good, yeah, I don't want to be at the front. Okay.
Yeah. Or the middle.
The middle is probably the safest anyway. You can be in the middle because you're protected in the back.
You're protected in the front. You don't have to make any decisions.
You just follow the decisions. That's where I need to be then.
You should take, what's Harry? You should go take Harry's motorcycle class. That's who we took our class from.
Really? Is it good? Yeah. I mean, I learned things I didn't know.
It wasn't easy necessarily either. There was things that were challenging.
Do y'all go in a pack when y'all go out there? I've ridden a couple times by myself, but I would have somebody following me, you know, like my security or just anyone. But we mostly just ride at least in groups of two.
Yeah. A lot of times groups of four.
That's tough, man. Maybe I'll have to get out there.
I got to pray about that. Yeah, I don't want to.
Don't let me. I'm not influencing you at all.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, thank you. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I don't want to be out there just like, listen, I'm the problem. You can just get in the sidecar.
Me and you, Ryan. Get a little German sidecar.
Yeah, dude, your cousin Andrew and I are friends, man. Yeah.
He's a class. Dude, he is.
Okay. Your family is funny, dude.
You guys are. We've got a lot of characters in our family that's what you have dude even when i remember you first told me i met you about your uncle david or somebody would come to your holidays oh yeah and then just different people you would tell me and then getting to meet your dad and then uh yeah andrew and i become friends over the years he's he's hilarious dude yeah he definitely is hilarious went fishing with him he fucked, that dude, he'll put a damn, he'll start fishing anywhere.
You guys buy a Chase Bank, and he'll cast over there and put a frog top on there just because there's a bank. He'll catch a damn, he'll catch a safe deposit box over there at the 12-pound, brother.
Oh, God. But, dude, he's just good.
He took us out to some property.

Him and Ben Weprin, I think is the guy's name.

Yeah, Ben.

Yeah.

And we had a blast, man.

But he's good.

Where'd y'all go?

To Hull and Wall?

No, we went to...

Oh, you went to Ease.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We went to Ease, and it was cool, though.

I hadn't been there.

God, that's beautiful.

That place is immaculate.

God.

Yeah, that was good, man. We got some big fish in there.
It's a beautiful spot, man. But does he hunt with you? Does he hunt? Does Andrew hunt with you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, some.
He does, yeah. I like hunting with him.
You know, he works for Field and Stream, so he travels a lot doing that job, which I think is a really good job for him. He loves it, man.
Yeah. Yeah, he's talented, but he's hilarious, dude.
We all keep telling him, like, he should have his own youtube channel or something really should just a series of some sort and this is the things that happen to that guy i'm like dude i don't know how this has occurred to you but you know the world deserves to hear this yeah that's the world deserves to share in your pain that you're dealing with right now because the things that happen to him are just unbelievable man bro he's just such a good story yeah he's a bro he has been getting to know him has been a gift man yeah he he is a true he's a treasure man he's a national treasure he's a buried treasure i mean i really he is buried right now we keep i mean no he's maybe he'll take this and he'll watch this clip and go start his channel you know he's entertained yeah man he's just entertaining he's easy to be around and yeah that field and stream job with him is perfect and he could do both he could have that job and do you know that could almost or find a way to put them together but you can't say it could be a part of the same thing you couldn't find a guy that's more perfect for that um has there been something nice that you kind of got yourself as a gift that you started you know feeling like you were doing pretty well and i mean a trip you took or anything yeah i mean i i'm i used to be probably a little more frugal than I am right now.

Yeah, same.

I don't like going to get stuff.

I don't like shopping for stuff, too.

Yeah.

I'm trying to think if there's anything that I was just really splurged out on.

You know, I got a couple of watches and just things like that.

And then I got a couple of nice cars. I mean, I don't feel like I'm an over-the-top big spender guy.
Yeah. You know, and a lot of times.
What was your first car? Do you remember it? Yeah, it was a Jeep Cherokee. Was it really, dude? I got a freaking Jeep Cherokee, dude.
You do right now? Yeah, and Los Angeles have a car there. It's got like only 12,000 miles on it.
Oh, this thing had a lot more than 12,000 miles on it. Really?

Yeah.

It was a white Jeep Grand Cherokee.

I think it was a 95 if I'm remembering correctly.

Dude, I like those cars.

It was not a bad car.

I mean, it wasn't whoever had it.

It wasn't the most.

It was like that right there.

That's exactly what it looked like.

God, those bitches were tough, dude.

That's exactly what it looked like.

Yeah, I had them Ford Escort, 84 Ford Escort.

Pull that bitch up, dude. If they'll even allow you.
Yeah, I had them Ford Escort, 84 Ford Escort. Pull that bitch up, dude.

If they'll even allow you,

sometimes Google won't let you

look at them anymore.

Them bitches are visually outlawed.

Bro, that shit don't cross.

It'll remodel your eye line

when you look at that bitch, dude.

God damn, that bitch looks horrible.

I hadn't looked at it in a few years.

I mean, yeah, that's pretty bad especially that one on the right that blue one god that one pulled up and barely pulled up it's pulled up slow dude it's got a two-cylinder in it. Probably it had a fucking outboard motor engine in it.
You had to steer it the reverse way. You had to do a John boat.
Yeah, it had a boat motor in it. Steered it from the back.
Dude, somebody stole my passenger seat in that bitch. Really? Was you had was it only a two-seater anyway no it had three extra little seats in the back okay okay but they weren't even a bench it was three individual little bitty seats three booster seats right there either i had to have three kids that were triplets i guess or a couple small buddies but buddies.
But somebody had stole my damn passenger seat, dude. Did you ever get it back? Uh-uh.
Some of them were eating at a Burger King, and somebody stole that bitch out of there. But then people had to get in.
They'd get in the car, but they couldn't sit right there. Dude, I'll tell you this.
Did you put a couple blankets down or something or what? I don't know. Whatever, dude.
But the the one time i picked up a dude i was getting him to buy me alcohol at a gas station i was skipping school and he got in this kind of homelessy kind of guy and he got in instead of sitting in the back he just got on his knees right there at the passenger side so i'm driving and he's just he was your friend i didn him. No, he's like a guy who I gave money to buy me alcohol.

Oh,

okay.

So, but anyway,

I don't know why I'm telling you all this.

Um,

I just cleaned out my car.

Actually,

I did not.

That's not true.

I just,

um,

I'm going to clean it out though.

I am going to clean it out this year for sure.

I look,

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Does it feel, is there a moment where you feel that the album is finished? Is there a moment where you're like, I just can't, this is far enough? Could you keep going on an album? Could you keep fine-tuning it forever? Yes, for sure that's a real possibility you can overdo it yeah yeah yeah oh the powers that be will give you a deadline if you want certain things to happen you know like you want your vinyl to come to be out to be ready by when the record's ready um you know things like that so you kind of they put a you know they give you a buffer because they know you're not gonna have it in time they got a buffer for the buffer they got they got like a eight week buffer i think that they put on me but those time those time limits are are healthy i think you know because especially i mean it's not like we weren't working i mean we worked really hard on this album pretty much since tour was over i've been writing and you know just recording all that so i mean we recorded 50 or 51 songs and cut 13 or 14 wow really yeah yeah um so what happens to a lot you just kind of decide this doesn't fit here right now? Yeah, some of the songs were songs that I wrote. Some of them weren't.
So if I didn't write them, then they'll just, whatever happens to them, not up to me anymore. And then if I did, you know, who knows? I might make a side project of something.
If, you know, something that has nothing to do with my name,'ve always kind of wanted to do that anyway you know just kind of figure out a way to it wouldn't be my voice it wouldn't i don't know how you do that i'm sure there's all kinds of ways to go about it now you know these days but oh yeah but not be my name not my voice not be any kind of style of music that i that i normally do you know just to see what happens to it It might be like house music or something, you know? I don't know. That would be pretty sick, dude.
Yeah, dude, if you had house music. I mean, people would, if they saw my name on it, I don't want it to have my name on it.
I want to just see what happens if it just gets put out into the world. You know, maybe I'll like put it on a story or something, whoever it is, you know, Dream Jacker or whatever the team is.
Whatever the name of the guy is. Wet Dream Jacker.
That'd be mine. Dream Jacking, currently.
I mean, me and my buddies were talking about this topic the other day, actually. I don't know.
It might actually happen. Putting out something secret, creating something yeah well i bet because that's an interesting thing it's like once you kind of have made a name in one space it's kind of hard you can't you know you almost have if you want to get a real test of what people think of something you kind of have to secretly do it some other way yeah but it wouldn't it wouldn't even be similar to the top of music that i totally understand it would be nothing even close to what i'm doing now it would be like i i mean i like i like house music a little bit yeah so i'll listen to it working out or driving or stuff you know like melodic stuff i like melodic stuff like that kind of yeah yeah yeah but i feel like a lot of that stuff doesn't necessarily have a lot of words and stuff you know so maybe what if i took a song of song of mine that didn't make my album, but it's got a story, it's got all these things, you know? What would people like that? I don't know.
Dude, I thought, I started thinking of this about two years ago. So they have like ED, you go to these nightclubs and stuff, and they'll have like John Summit, these different kind of guys who are playing like house, like trance or whatever.
Whatever it is, it's just people doing dope really late at night and just doing like this you know whatever that is i don't know the difference between all those styles of music it's like it's one style of music i know there's sub genres and all that but yeah same i don't have a clue but i'm always like why don't they have a like a more like country or like why is it always like if they had remixes of a lot of great country music like um that and you put it to that same type of shit that because a lot of people want to still go have that environment but i don't sometimes you get tired of that music it just gets kind of old so if they had remixes of some dope country shit i'm like if they had two country djs that came out like i feel like it would be so sick just doing remixes and shit it would be cool i'm surprised they don't have that already me too me. Me and Caleb Presley thought about trying to do it, but then it was just like you just don't have a lot of time.
And that becomes something too. It's like there's things you want to do and you just don't have enough time.
Yeah, and that's smart for you to realize that. I mean, it'll be like, well, I'm going to quit my job.
It pays all my bills and go be a mason. It's like, well, maybe don't do that so yeah just fucking remix it like in brooks and dunn um before you go man uh you have some you have some amazing artists are going to be on some of these tour dates with you yeah i do did you have to call them individually call them individually and ask them? How'd that kind of go? Because some of these are idols, really, in the industry.
Well, I feel, you know, Miranda, I'm good friends with Miranda. I'm good friends with Brooks and Dunn.
So that was pretty easy? Yeah, I mean, there was already mutual interest, and that's something that's kind of been a conversation for a little bit longer than just, you know, this year. So that one kind of just worked itself out between them and my managers.
I'm good friends with Thomas Red as well. So that one, they were all – He's nice, huh? He's super nice.
God, what a nice guy. He lives nearby, I think.
Yeah, I think you're right. It just all kind of happened pretty naturally.
But, I mean, it's unbelievable to me. You know, like I haven't really – this page that's pulled up, I mean,

just to see the people that are opening for me, it's like it doesn't even make sense.

Miranda Ella Langley, she's a new – Yeah, she's a badass.

Or she's newly more popular.

Yeah.

I'm not going to say she's new.

I don't know about her history.

I don't either, but –

Miranda Corey Kent, I'm not familiar with them.

If it's a man. It is.
Yeah. He's he's good too i'm gonna have to check him out um yeah ann wilson she's she's a christian artist um by trait but she's you know dabbling in the country music world she's she's really good um you know she's on her she's on her agency so she is yep yep um you started I'll have to check her out Oh Gavin Adcock's on our, she's on our agency, so.
She is? Yep. Yep.
You started, I'll have to check her out. Oh, Gavin Adcock's out there with you too.
He's a wild man. That fucking guy's wild, dude.
I love that guy, man. Oh, dude, yeah.
I, he's walking, he's like, I see, he'll eat a fucking, he'll eat a damn three pack. I saw him eat a three pack of beers.
He probably did. Oh, he'll eat fucking two beers, dude.
Yeah, he doesn't give a damn, dude. He played offensive line for Bud Light for a couple years, I think.
There is nobody like him, dude. He's definitely outlandish.
What are those things? Those military, what are those MREs or whatever? He's just got beer in there. Dude, he'll fucking...
But he's... He's entertaining.
He's entertaining. He's got a good voice, too.
And his music seems like he just keeps getting better, too. So I'm happy for him, man.
I got to tap him more with him. I saw him play with Kid Rock and him on one of his shows last year.
Dude, I'll say this. Bob Ritchie, his live performance, dude no he'll he'll let him have it won't he bro i was fucking i mean i know you know but i didn't he it was good i've never seen it person like firsthand but it was really i can imagine i mean i knew it would be but it's just been some time you know it's hard to keep up you know i mean being out there for two hours i mean you guys get i mean it's a it's a lot man it is man it can be for sure i mean depends on how often you do it too you know i mean if you're doing it some people i guess still do it three three nights a week i'm just i'm just gonna do it too because it feels like a disservice to to me and everyone else to do it three days in a row you know but two two seems like a good sweet spot um you can as long you know you play the show probably don't go to bed till three four in the morning just because you're so wound up yeah you're up people visit and you got to say bye to everybody all that shit well i don't do all that anymore much but even if your family's there yeah but even still they know what the priorities are at this point so if i if i play a show you my boy, if my boy's with me, he'll be asleep already anyway.
So I'll just, we head straight out. Don't stick around.
I try to go to bed as soon as possible. Usually, like I said, don't have until three or four.
Then you try your best to sleep till noon, one, two, as late as you possibly can, just because of your voice after doing all that. You know, you need all that rest.
So it's become a little bit more like a regiment for me, which is good. You know, I got a vocal coach and all that stuff too now.
So it's just like a whole boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. This is how it is now, you know, and that seems to help me a lot.
Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of interesting.
When I was a little younger, I could do some of those stretches, and now'm like i don't i wish i when i do see them on the schedule it's a little bit tougher not comparing comedy and what you know no but you're i mean it is i mean it's still the same thing it's like a regimen it's like yeah i gotta sleep in late and it's like well that kind of sucks because now it's like it's kind of hard if you wake up at 10 to go back to sleep for two more hours because it's light out it's really hard it's hard but you know you need that two more hours of sleep otherwise i'm gonna be edgy you know and i won't be able to man i might not want to go work out just all the little things like yeah it does it is it's important because it's just about getting yourself back on the stage for that next that when it's time to go it's time to go yeah i mean back in the day i mean which we weren't playing two hour shows back then either you know but we would play six six shows in one week you know so i don't know how i mean

it just had to be young i guess you know i mean it wasn't like we were i wasn't no the only regiment then was sleep till four start drinking at five you know what i mean like that's what it was then and we're gonna be good ain't that right bro hell yeah that's a gavin adcock national anthem yeah i I think back in the day, if I had a camera on me like Adcock does now,

they would be probably saying some similar stuff about me. But he's a little more bold with it, I guess, than I was.
Well, he's really, yeah. Oh, dude, he'll be on stage.
People are throwing fucking beers. He just has beers bouncing off of them.
He's an animal, dude. He'll be on stage.
People, I think there's some, he's like, people are throwing fucking beers. He just has beers bouncing off of them.
He's an animal, dude. He'll be like, the PA system's shut down, but we're going to still fucking perform.
He'll just yell. He'll holler out a beer can and just yell out of it and shit.
He's fucking doing all kinds of shit. He is ballsy, dude.
His personality is cool. He's a fun guy.
Very entertaining. I've got to tap into more of his music.
I haven't listened to a lot of his music. Yeah, you need to get him on here.
Yeah. I do need to.
People say that we look alike a little bit, but I think they're just being nice to me. To you or him.
One of us. One of us, dude.
Oh, yeah. You got your drink here, man.
You brought this today. That real tea.
How's it going? Real tea. Man, it seems to be progressing nicely.
It's good. I like it.
I like it on ice better. Yeah, brother.
But I've always liked sweet tea better on ice. I mean, you know, because I've been – I'm trying to eat and live and drink and all that stuff clean.
So for something that's actually healthy, it's good. Yeah.
Yeah, it's good for sure. I like it.
I like having a nice little can of tea or something. I'll keep a couple in the car.
I'll drink them warm even. Do you? Yeah.
I'll get a whole one in me at a stoplight. Yeah, I don't do all that.
You don't? No. My drummer told me one time he had drank like, I can't remember how many, you know, like 13 or something ungodly in a short amount of time.
I said, damn, man, you're going to have kidney stones for sure. Hey, dude, that's, well, maybe he'll have a band, a cover band of the Rolling Stones, and it's called Kidney Stones.
It's the Rolling Kidney Stones. Is there a song sometimes of your own that you'll listen to or one that catches you sometimes and it'll kind of catch you in your feels a little bit is there anyone that you're like i mean yeah the song the song i wrote to my son is is the song oh the one that's not out yet yeah that does that it'll be out soon but um i mean it's also one of those things to where you know i've tried so many times to write a song like that for him and it always fell flat so I'd listen to it on the way home or whatever after we wrote it and I'd be like that's that's good you know but it's not it's not how I want it and I also didn't want to write like a song to him that was all I don't know sappy and slow and you know just like what you would expect a dad's son song to be.
Right. You know, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

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just like what you would expect a dad's son song to be.

Right.

You know, I wish you wouldn't grow up, you know, all that.

Like, I didn't want it to be that.

Another birthday cake.

Yeah, it's like I didn't want that song at all.

That song's been written plenty enough.

So, and I wanted it to keep, like, have a little bit of my sound and my swag and just, like, and to be honest. You know, so it was a hard thing to try to get all those things wrapped up into one song.
And it's called Superman is what it's called, and I feel like we accomplished that. And when we wrote it and I was riding home, it was actually the last song that made my record.
So it's not like I've had it for a long time. You know, it took us a while to get that song.
And it was actually Blake, one of my buddy Blake's, it was his idea. And the hook was different though.
It said Superman. I don't remember what the hook was exactly, but I was just singing it and I was like, oh, I know what it is.
And I and I changed the hook, and it made it. It was like, oh, there it is.
Unlock it. And all three of us, or four of us in the room, just kind of was like, oh, yeah, that's it.
You know, and then on the way home, I was listening to it and started crying, and that's the first time that it happened with a song for him. So that's, I kind of knew.
That's cool, man.

Yeah, man, there's one thing I've always thought

you had very good instincts, man.

I've always admired your instincts, you know?

Whether it's humor, we're joking around, whatever.

You're fucking sharp, dude.

You're a sharp fucking guy.

Yeah, it's been, I appreciate you just supporting my podcast

and, you know, it's nice of you.

And thanks for all the great music, man.

That one about the mom, oh, I wrote the oh yeah and that one sometimes that's one of my favorites still if i'm driving home at night or something i'll listen to that one dude you know that's a good one that was like kind of puts me in a good spot you know yeah i like that one too man um yeah and what's the one about the mom um you talking about my mom yeah thought you should know yeah that one yeah yeah that one god damn dude i pull over and cry sometimes do you really i will i'm like fuck you can't cry and drive you little bitch this goes back to what you're talking about uh thinking and motion and all that stuff yeah yeah it is too much morgan wallen man one of the most prolific artists of i think of that ever on the face of the earth, man, one of the most

prolific artists, I think, ever

on the face of the earth, man. It's a pleasure,

dude. I feel lucky to get to know

your cousin. He and I are close.

Yeah, just thanks for all the

entertainment on behalf of everybody.

It's just been a

gift, man. Thank you, man.
I say the same

to you. I appreciate everything that you do for me.

Cheers, brother. Excited for the new album.
Yes, man. Thank you, man.
I say the same to you. I appreciate everything that you do for me.
Cheers, brother. Excited for the new album.
Yes, sir.

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