#606 - Lainey Wilson

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Speaker 1 Today's guest is a country singer and songwriter. She's my Louisiana sister.

Speaker 1 She just released the deluxe version of her latest album, Whirlwind. She's on tour now.
She always is up to something. I'm so grateful to spend time again with Miss Laney Wilson.

Speaker 1 Dang, girl, you got that deluxe coming out, huh?

Speaker 2 Deluxe. God.

Speaker 2 How many songs are on it? I mean, it's five.

Speaker 2 But I'm already working on that next record.

Speaker 2 I'm already working on that, the record before the record's out. You know what I'm saying? Like the next one.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I feel like you're just working in the past and the future.

Speaker 2 that's it

Speaker 2 nobody else

Speaker 2 oh

Speaker 2 oh

Speaker 2 why does that sound like telling a ghost story yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 1 that was the best that kid that got under there and told that ghost story really with the flashlight yeah and then there was always the one kid he couldn't control the flashlight it was just like

Speaker 1 he'd put it straight into your eyes and you were like god it's a dang exorcism i just was thinking about it.

Speaker 2 Did you ever hear any stories from the Myrtles

Speaker 2 in St. Francisville, Louisiana?

Speaker 1 Like the plantation?

Speaker 2 The plantation. I mean, my mama took her gifted students down there.
She did. And she got some weird stuff in her pictures.

Speaker 2 I just, I just thought about Louisiana. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, that's some of the kind of stuff. I mean, they,

Speaker 1 I mean, first of all, being gifted in Louisiana, I was in some of those courses.

Speaker 1 Were you? Yeah. I mean, you just got the full alphabet they gave you.

Speaker 1 I remember like regular ed, they were cutting kids off at like M.

Speaker 1 I'm like, what?

Speaker 1 You'd meet kids that could only knew words that had the first half of the alphabet in them.

Speaker 2 I was like, God, you got a. That's some Louisiana stuff.

Speaker 1 But then you'd get in that gifted class and they had, dang,

Speaker 1 13 more letters in there.

Speaker 2 Dude, I was never in the gifted program. Really? No.

Speaker 2 I'm too AHD.

Speaker 1 Oh, you did have it on.

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm like, I never really got like diagnosed with it, but I absolutely know that i'm like

Speaker 2 squirrel squirrel squirrel you know i was thinking about i wasn't thinking about oh you had spelling and reading and no you had 4-hdhd i think you know what i'm saying that's i like that that's a real kind of rural version that's it that's what i'm gonna i'm gonna call it yeah you can't pay attention but you'll pet something if it shows up uh-huh

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 2 me and my sister we did show horses i bet there's a we'd walk out there like this this is like you're holding like right there at the you know at the at the bit. Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 And then so you walk out like this, and then you have to like get all four of their feet lined up. And my horse half the time was a pain in the ass.

Speaker 2 But I think I got like first runner up, something like that. God.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they didn't have that.

Speaker 2 Were you in 4-H?

Speaker 1 No, I was not.

Speaker 2 You weren't?

Speaker 1 I was not in it. I think they, something happened.
Our area got discontinued for a year or something. I think the barn sunk or wherever they were running it out of.

Speaker 1 They had a dang infestation over there or something. Or termites.
I mean, a bad batch of termites came.

Speaker 2 That's some Covington stuff, huh? Oh,

Speaker 1 they took that thing down in the night, that barn.

Speaker 2 They left town. See ya.
Yeah, those things were full.

Speaker 1 I was like, how did y'all not see them leaving? They ate all that wood.

Speaker 2 They ate all that wood and just took off, you know? Gosh.

Speaker 1 It was that kind of thing. Show horses.
I bet there's a,

Speaker 1 because a lot of women put in extra hair. Do you ever have to do it or no?

Speaker 2 Put in extra hair on me? Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 2 You think this is mine?

Speaker 1 I can never tell.

Speaker 2 Is that all yours?

Speaker 2 It is. That's it.
You got that good hair.

Speaker 1 Well, it's coming and going.

Speaker 2 You still got all your hair.

Speaker 1 It's coming and going, honey. Something will happen.

Speaker 2 I'm sure. I'll probably lose mine before you lose yours.
You know, that's just how it goes.

Speaker 1 I bet there's a horse out there that is so happy you are wearing its hair.

Speaker 2 I hope so.

Speaker 1 I hope so. I bet there is just a.

Speaker 2 I have a horse who's turning 31 this year.

Speaker 1 No, you don't.

Speaker 2 31, text.

Speaker 1 And how is he?

Speaker 2 He's good, but I think I just got the last ride on him. Oh.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Was he in your 4x4 video or no?

Speaker 2 No, that wasn't him. No, he's in Louisiana.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 I don't know if any of these pictures right here are text. The one that looks the closest to him is that one right there.

Speaker 1 God, he's beautiful, huh?

Speaker 2 Yes, he is. I got him when I was nine years old and taught me a lot.
Did he? Taught me a lot. He did.
I mean,

Speaker 2 how to stay in the saddle, you know? I mean, he was not broke. That's him right there.

Speaker 2 That's in 2020 back in Louisiana.

Speaker 1 He's 31.

Speaker 2 31. And

Speaker 1 my God, he's got to be getting a pension now, huh?

Speaker 2 He better be.

Speaker 2 He better be. If not, we better talk about it.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's awesome. Yeah.
Oh, Tex. And did your sister have a horse too or no? Yep.

Speaker 2 She did. Hollywood and their best buddies.
And he's, I think he might be like a year or two younger than Tex, but they hang out in the pasture. I mean, they are like,

Speaker 2 you can't separate them. God, maybe they met online or whatever.
They probably did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think, I think I would like to get a horse. As soon as I get a family or something, I'm going to give me a little horse.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay. Where are you going to put it? That's what what I'm going to do.

Speaker 1 Probably in the yard, I guess.

Speaker 2 I mean, I guess. In the front yard?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 That's also some Louisiana shit.

Speaker 2 Fence in the whole house.

Speaker 2 Yeah, dude. You have a horse in the front yard.

Speaker 1 You live on a quarter acre and you got a horse.

Speaker 2 At least you got a horse.

Speaker 2 Oh, God.

Speaker 1 God, dude. Yeah, I do miss being in Louisiana a lot of times.
It gets interesting as your life changes when you get outside of there. You know, do you notice it feels slower when you go back now?

Speaker 2 Oh, yes. 100%.
Even just calling mama and daddy back at home,

Speaker 2 that's why I do call and FaceTime my family so much. I just kind of,

Speaker 2 you know, you think about

Speaker 2 the fast pace of all of this. I mean, it is like life is constantly changing every single day.
It's probably the same way for you.

Speaker 2 But it's important for me to just call back and kind of that's that's what kind of plants my feet on the ground. Yeah.
FaceTiming my nephews who don't think I am cool at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm talking about the

Speaker 2 oldest one, he's six years old. And the teacher asked the other day, they were talking about like the farming way of life and the country living life and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 And somehow country music got brought up. And she was like, does anybody in here like country music? And Knox, he's in the back of class and he's just like,

Speaker 2 you know, not raising his hand. And she's like, Knox, you don't like country music? And he goes,

Speaker 2 not really.

Speaker 2 And then she goes, if you had to choose a favorite, who would it be? And he said, well, I guess my ain't Lainey.

Speaker 2 I'm like, oh, you little asshole.

Speaker 2 Forced to do it. Forced.

Speaker 2 There's nothing I could do that would make them think that I'm cool.

Speaker 1 A couple more number ones. I mean, I don't know what it takes for these kids.

Speaker 2 I know. I don't know what it takes.

Speaker 1 They're almost like the damn CMA voters or whatever.

Speaker 2 That's exactly how it feels. I'm like, what else can I do?

Speaker 2 Please vote for me.

Speaker 1 Kids are funny. My little nephews won't even answer my calls anymore.
I'm like, dude, what are you making?

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 Leaving you on red.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they just, it's different. They don't, I think they just, they're locked in their own universe, you know.

Speaker 1 Have you guys, you're just getting married? You get, are you married yet or not?

Speaker 2 I ain't married yet. Okay.
I'm making him wait. Oh, making him wait.
He made me wait.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Was that your wedding ring on? Yeah, that's not. Did you see that thing? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, boy. when he opened on that box i was like

Speaker 2 yeah i guess i do

Speaker 2 oh i guess i do i'd have been dang i'd have considered it and i prefer women you know i know i know god where did he get that out of he well he uh designed it that's all he designed it did he really yeah uh-uh yeah

Speaker 2 yeah you see that uh-huh thing would make superman sit down for a half hour that's it that's it we uh we got engaged at george jones old house.

Speaker 1 I remember seeing the video, seeing something of it. Oh, there you go.

Speaker 2 There he is.

Speaker 1 Mr. Hodges right there.

Speaker 2 Good guy.

Speaker 2 He is a good boy.

Speaker 2 He just lets me do my thing, and he does his, and it's just, it just works. Does it? My best buddy.

Speaker 1 Wonder what errors people make in that type of thing, I guess. I mean, it's so hard because people's schedules just get so hectic.

Speaker 2 Well, for sure.

Speaker 1 Does he come on the road with you if you're out, or does he kind of pop in and out?

Speaker 2 Every now and then. Like he, he's busy doing his own stuff and that's great.
You know, like I've always said, like,

Speaker 2 I have to have somebody that has their own dreams and goals and motivations. And, you know, then we can, we have things to talk about and come together and dream.

Speaker 2 And I just didn't want to be the only one dreaming kind of thing.

Speaker 2 But yeah, he's, he's awesome. He's

Speaker 2 killing it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got to check him with

Speaker 1 Mr. Hodges and see what's going on.

Speaker 2 You need to come out to the house. We had a crawfish bowl.
I think. Wait,

Speaker 1 y'all invited me to something. I did.

Speaker 2 We were having a crawfish bowl. I think it was actually Duck's birthday.
Do you get crawfish a good bit?

Speaker 1 I don't do it in Nashville very much.

Speaker 2 We got it sent up. Was it good? It was from South Mississippi, and it was,

Speaker 2 it was good. I've heard it's good.

Speaker 1 It was good. God, I've heard it's good.
Yeah, I got to come and have some. I got to get some this year.
I can't even believe I haven't done it that much.

Speaker 2 We have some

Speaker 2 during the season at our bar downtown, Bell Bottoms Up.

Speaker 2 They got a truck out there, a crawfish truck. Oh, really? Hell yeah.
Kind of sounds dangerous,

Speaker 2 but good, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm surprised they don't get hijacked more by criminals and stuff, but I think that's just us from Louisiana prefer it. Look at that.
God, that's it right there.

Speaker 2 That's it. Oh, that'll definitely.
Get in my belly.

Speaker 1 Get that salt intake. Look at the beautiful color on that.

Speaker 2 That's nice.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you get the dark red one, the one that's been like to hell and back.

Speaker 2 Is that that the one that like died before they say sometimes it died and got brought back to life i'm like nobody's resuscitating these things like i heard the one with like real flat tail yeah is the one that was like dead before they cooked it yeah i heard that one got around a lot in college too i heard yeah there's definitely yeah i mean you hear a lot of myths about those but there is always like the crawfish that's like way too dark it's like it just like at the color of way you're like what is going on and you just got to go around it yeah you just got to sit it to the side yeah yeah yeah i feel you and there's one sometimes they're still blinking at you a little bit.

Speaker 1 You know, one of them still has got that left turn signal going when you pull them off that pot. I'm like, some of these you should, people should not be eating.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 1 congratulations on everything you're doing. Everything's going so great.
Thanks. How burnt out did you get last year? Were you really burnt out? Because I'm not joking.

Speaker 1 Every time I would talk to somebody, I'd be like, is Laney okay? Because it seemed like you were just as busy as possible.

Speaker 2 It was wild. I'll be honest with you.
It was it was wild. But, like,

Speaker 2 you know, I've been at this for a long time. I've been in Nashville now for 14 years.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I remember the last time you were on, we talked about, yeah, when you got there and living in your camper and, you know, the shower breaking and you standing in there just doing a prayer circle by yourself.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I feel like

Speaker 2 the last two years at least, I felt like all my dreams were really just coming true. Like, honestly, tenfold, more than I could have ever even imagined.
Like I knew I wanted to write songs.

Speaker 2 I knew I wanted to tell stories. I knew I wanted to play shows, but it was a lot and it was a lot of opportunity coming at once.
And

Speaker 2 I wanted to say yes because for so long I didn't have opportunity, you know? Oh, yeah. And then

Speaker 2 I said yes. And I was like, all right, I'm going to do it.
I was tired mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, all of it. But I tell you what, Theo, I'm all right.

Speaker 2 And I am in a healthy, healthy place right now. I feel like I've had a lot of balance this year.

Speaker 2 And I've just, I've learned a lot. You know, I've learned like what you say yes to now might not even come into effect until like a year down the road.

Speaker 2 And so it's, it's important to like protect your peace and, um,

Speaker 2 but also like, you know, roll your sleeves up and get her done too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's kind of tough because you feel like I got it, you know, you want to take advantage of stuff, but at the same time, you're like, I don't even, like, how do I even show up for this?

Speaker 2 Well, that's the thing, too, is what I'm realizing is like how important it is to, I mean, your cup's got to be full in order to keep pouring out.

Speaker 2 You know, and then if you're just pouring out from a half empty cup over and over and over again, at some point in time, the dang thing is going to run dry.

Speaker 1 Oh, you turn into a damn methadone clinic at that point.

Speaker 2 Exactly. And you don't want that.
Uh-uh. You don't want that.

Speaker 2 That sounds terrible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not preferred.

Speaker 2 It's not preferred. And

Speaker 2 yeah, but I've learned a lot. Like, I feel like, and especially we put out a record last year called Whirlwind.
And I think it's just funny how

Speaker 2 even though like music was the thing that like,

Speaker 2 how can I say it? Is the thing that like was about to make me lose my mind, you know, like all of these opportunities, it's still the thing that I ran back to.

Speaker 2 It was the thing that like helped me kind of navigate that time of my life was was writing more music and just like putting pen to paper and picking up my guitar.

Speaker 2 That's like, that's what I do when I was nine years old coming home from school and I didn't know how to, you know, talk about what I wanted to talk about.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you've run in gifted courses. That's why you only had to have a damn alphabet.

Speaker 2 I mean, I was, I was writing songs about tequila and cigarettes, you know.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 As a child? As a child. Are you worried? Look, that was a concerned look on your face.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think I'm worried.

Speaker 2 I'm also kind of impressed. I'm like, hey, dude.
I have one that went like,

Speaker 2 at 10 years old, my cigarette pack is empty. My tequila bottle is gone.
Thinking how you da-da-da, and you're gone. I keep looking for the future, but it comes to the past.

Speaker 2 I don't have to think about you no more, freedom.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 No way.

Speaker 2 Hell yeah. People would pull up in the yard like coming to buy a horse from Daddy, and he'd be like, hey, sing on that song you just wrote last week.
I'd get on the trampoline. That'd be my stage.

Speaker 2 I'd say, my cigarette pack is empty.

Speaker 1 Just your big tail just popping up out of the back every now and then. Wait till you're at that like crescendo.
You're jumping to hit the high notes.

Speaker 2 That's right. You do your toe touch.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Freedom at last.

Speaker 2 Freedom at last.

Speaker 1 That's the best thing, man. That's the most American thing ever.
That's the best song. Look at that.

Speaker 2 that is that a picture you in that red and white and top left and i don't know why but during this one phase of my life i was doing like that's you this underbite that's you were you a missing person it looks like i look like i need to be on a milk carton yeah oh my god yeah that's me

Speaker 2 wow that was our rodeo shirt Dude, those road, the rodeo stuff's so great, isn't it?

Speaker 1 I love the rodeo.

Speaker 2 I love the rodeo too. I feel at home with the rodeo.

Speaker 1 It's my favorite. I was just watching, now I seem like a real creep, but I was just watching videos.
There's some little girl. See if you can find it on my TikTok.

Speaker 1 I think I shared it yesterday, or maybe I'd have saved it. It's this little girl who just, man, she gets out there and bail races.

Speaker 1 She must be weighed 40 pounds out there and looks like she has two jobs.

Speaker 2 Stop. She's just a sandwich.
She knows how to do it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I really love that. Pretty impressive stuff.
Yeah, I love the rodeo.

Speaker 1 I wish I could, if I had like a, that would be one thing I would like to invest in a rodeo team. If I could get enough money and then invest in like a rodeo team, you know.

Speaker 2 I like that. You let me know when you need some more investors.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that'd be cool. We'll do it.
Dude, I love the freaking rodeo. Do you really love it or not?

Speaker 2 No, I do. I grew up doing it.

Speaker 2 My daddy is still the president of the rodeo committee back at home. Oh, yeah.
And so it's like, it's just, there's something about it even when you just roll up and you just smell it.

Speaker 2 You know, it's like,

Speaker 2 I love it. We used to barrel race and we were PRCA flag girls and all that.
So I'd ride in with the flag and sing the national anthem and screw the lyrics up every single time.

Speaker 2 Every time. Really? Yes.
There was a text message, you know, back when there used to be like, forward this to 10 people. If you don't, you're going to die kind of thing.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 There was a text message going around the arena that ended up making its way to my sister somehow that said, Did you hear Lainey Wilson mess up the national anthem? Send this to 10 people.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Oh, my. So I'm like, guess what? You can't hurt me.
You know what I'm saying? You can't hurt me. Yeah.
We've been there.

Speaker 1 Dude, that's the dang gossip superhighway. That's when gossip just hit the dang HOV lane.
Yes. I can't believe that that's how it got.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is her right here.

Speaker 2 Let's go, girl.

Speaker 2 Look, she said, get the hat off of me.

Speaker 1 You're not even playing, bro.

Speaker 2 Look at her. her

Speaker 1 that's crazy and she should do doordash how does she not work for them dude if she worked for door dash we'd be getting our stuff quick bro it'd be warm when it got there it would be warm even if it was a cold item it would be warm

Speaker 2 look at her boy that is incredible who is that i love that i know little cowgirl

Speaker 2 look at her

Speaker 2 Daddy, stop.

Speaker 1 Pretty cool. That's great.
Yeah, I love, I mean, I just met, like, even just growing up in Louisiana, like, did y'all ever have a parade in y'all's town or not?

Speaker 2 We did. Our rodeo parade.
Yeah. And we'd ride through the town and everybody come out and we'd throw candy.

Speaker 2 It was good. It was.
Remember those days? I mean, those were like the good old days.

Speaker 1 Picking the candy up off the street, you know?

Speaker 2 Did you do a lot of like Mardi Gras parades and stuff like that? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 We did Mardi Gras parades. But the parade in our town, they had like, even the people in it, we'd be like, tallest guy in town or whatever, you know? Stop.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would be like kid who can walk backwards like the shit was like you are lying no uh that's some south louisiana stuff

Speaker 2 we don't do that kind of stuff in north louisiana first of all they're not that different than each other okay well

Speaker 1 i mean they are but we these are like our heroes in the community or whatever you know stop no we had i'm trying to think of who else we had and they would just walk through the parade or like be in a car and wave a car and stay on the side of it newly single or whatever sometimes if you had a little bit of cash you'd get your daughter out there or whatever

Speaker 1 And that was kind of a good, that was a neat thing, I thought, because it was kind of showcasing the goods of the area. You know,

Speaker 1 it's really not a bad idea.

Speaker 2 Got to shine a light on it.

Speaker 1 I mean, that was kind of the original OnlyFans. A little bit was just dropping some drops.
Stop.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, you know, kind of more of a Christian OnlyFans version, but driving a decent woman, buying an open convertible.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Got it.
Sitting up on the back of it. Yeah.
With the signs down the side. That was decorated with the Christmas lights.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Miss Rabies or whatever. They always have the crest.
I'm like, that shouldn't be. You guys should have picked it something else.

Speaker 2 Miss Rabies.

Speaker 1 That was always a little bit different.

Speaker 2 Well, there is. So there are so many

Speaker 2 different festivals in Louisiana, what I've realized, and I got to hang out with them some.

Speaker 2 It was like the duck queen, the duck festival queen. It was like the strawberry festival queen, the watermelon festival queen.

Speaker 2 It was like any kind of queen you could think of, any kind of animal or fruit.

Speaker 1 The frog, yeah. It exists.
In rain, they have the frog princess or whatever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have like the

Speaker 1 mosquito queen or whatever.

Speaker 2 The armadillo queen, the possum queen. Just some nervous, this thin girl just

Speaker 1 standing on all fours, just shaking.

Speaker 2 Mosquito.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they had all, but yeah, there was all that in Louisiana. That was a lot of it.
What

Speaker 1 do you notice, like, as your career gets busier that like you have to spend so much more time doing the career part?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Um, and it changes, like, so like, like, is there stuff that you miss from the earlier parts? Like, is even like little moments?

Speaker 2 For sure. I mean,

Speaker 2 things are different. You know, I don't miss going to the grocery store.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2 I don't. I ain't never liked going to the grocery store.

Speaker 1 Well, the one area gets so cold or whatever, you got to go in there to get the cold goods or whatever.

Speaker 2 That's right. And you got to run over to the other side just to warm up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 God, I'd be in there looking at something.

Speaker 2 I'd be like, oh, I'll be right back. I have to go over there and just go like this by the cereal boxes and then head back over there.

Speaker 1 Or I'd open up that little chicken warmer thing they got out of here

Speaker 2 in the rotisserie thing.

Speaker 2 Sometimes they don't lock it. You can get up in there.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'd be, well, I wouldn't get in, but I'd put my hands in.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, I do remember doing that, too.

Speaker 1 I cracked it, just kind of, you know.

Speaker 2 In Walmart. Oh, yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 I'm the guy. I'm always cold.
I feel like I'll be the guy like at a Circle K who have both of his hands in that

Speaker 1 little hot dog spinner.

Speaker 2 You are lying. And I'm lying.
And that's why that right there is why nobody needs to be eating the hot dogs from the convenience stores because of people like you.

Speaker 1 I'm not touching the frank.

Speaker 2 It don't matter.

Speaker 1 I'm just keeping my hands warm. Well, they should have a little warming section right above that for people that are cold.

Speaker 2 They should. They should.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 life has changed.

Speaker 2 And I mean, of course, there's things that I miss, but I also know, like, on a serious note, that like this. This is my calling.
Right. You know, and I knew that at a very early age.
And so

Speaker 2 I just think like with anything in life, there are times when there are things you just kind of have to like give up. And

Speaker 2 so I'm okay with that because

Speaker 2 this is what I feel like I was like born to do and made to do. And so

Speaker 1 it changes. Things change.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they do. I know.

Speaker 1 It's kind of tough. It's tough sometimes because you want to be that you want to be the same person, but also who you are changes and you grow up and things are different.

Speaker 2 That's right. And, you know, like I didn't really like sign up to be a businesswoman or whatever, but you kind of have to be.
You have to like rise to the occasion.

Speaker 2 And other opportunities have come my way. And I'd be silly not to, you know,

Speaker 2 to hear what it's about and take that step. So, yeah.
So, I thought when growing up, you know, when I was jumping on the trampoline and singing freedom at last,

Speaker 2 I thought that I was just going to be writing music and playing shows and bouncing around. And

Speaker 2 that's not it at all. This is like 80% business and 20% music, but I'm willing to do the 80% business so I can do the 20% music.
Amen.

Speaker 1 You know, it really is. It changes in the beginning.
It's just all, it's mostly all the music, I guess. Or actually, I don't know if now, maybe it hasn't merged more.

Speaker 1 Like, you have to make your own flyers. I remember having to make my own flyers at home and like trying to figure them out on the computer and stuff.

Speaker 2 Yes. My granny used to make these little like CD covers and little stickers.
And my granny. She would make, oh, make print off on the computer.
Like, we'd burn the CDs where I'd recorded some songs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that CD burner. Uh-huh.
Dude, I found a triple-decker CD burner one time. That thing had three rows in it.

Speaker 2 What in all the world? Oh my God, baby, we're doing it. Look, my daddy found a burnt CD of ours that had Colt 45 on it.
He popped it in the CD player and listened to it. You remember that song?

Speaker 2 Colt 45, two zigzag. Baby, that's all we need.
We can go to the park after dark, smoke at tumble for weed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, then I have heard this, dude. Unless somebody stole that beat from them.

Speaker 2 At the marijuana fire, we can take our turn singing them dirty rap songs. Stop to hit the bone like Chichen Chong sell taste from here to Hong Kong.
Let's go. So, roll, roll.

Speaker 2 Anyway, Daddy put that into the...

Speaker 1 I have to have heard this, huh?

Speaker 2 CD player.

Speaker 2 And he about had a heart attack. It's Afro-Man? It's Afro-Man.
Oh.

Speaker 2 Next time I see you, you better have learned every lyric to this song. Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 1 I promise y'all will.

Speaker 2 I will learn. We need to play it at a show.
You need to come up at a show and we do Colt 45.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I'll do it. Oh, my.

Speaker 1 As long as your dad will dang two-step over there on the side of it.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh. He's going to have a heart attack.

Speaker 1 And we'll get the trampoline out there, too.

Speaker 1 You know, I'll jump on it.

Speaker 2 Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Dude, I love this. I saw African at a frat party one time up in the University of Mississippi, and he was like so high with everyone stage.

Speaker 1 He hit a note that just shook him a little. And he had just vomited in his own hat and just threw it.
And

Speaker 2 some freshman kid just was like excited.

Speaker 1 I think he thought it was just a hat, not that a hat that had vomit in it.

Speaker 2 He just stopped. And he put it on?

Speaker 1 No, he just caught it.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay, okay. He put it on, the guy's down.

Speaker 2 He's just waterboarding himself out there.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Afro-Man, that guy's played everywhere, huh?

Speaker 2 I guess so.

Speaker 1 He's played everywhere. Colt 45, I don't remember it, but I believe that it happened.

Speaker 1 Because I got high. I remember that was like his big hit.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 I was going to go to work. Till I got high.

Speaker 2 And those are the jams.

Speaker 1 Oh, those were the jams, man.

Speaker 2 That was it. But my daddy, like, he tore up the CD.
And, you know, he's like, you ain't going to be singing stuff like this at this age.

Speaker 2 But it was okay for me to write about tequila and cigarettes, you know, and be like, hey, play that song.

Speaker 1 I guess as long as you were like the person writing, then it made everything okay, okay, you know.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's right. That's right.

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Speaker 2 So it's Whirlwind Deluxe. Whirlwind Deluxe.
And it's out right now. And it's out right now.

Speaker 1 And there's new songs on it.

Speaker 2 There's new songs on it. There is several new songs on it.
So when I was writing Whirlwind, like I was saying earlier, it was like during that time of my life that was

Speaker 2 chaotic when you were asking if I was okay.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 then I felt like after the dust kind of settled after I put that record out,

Speaker 2 I had a minute to really just kind of like

Speaker 2 just get my stuff together. And these were the songs that I wrote, but I still felt like it was kind of connected to the tail end of the whirlwind.
So I felt like they were still in that family.

Speaker 2 And so I just wanted to, you know, add a little bit to the story. And so they're out.
I'm so proud of them.

Speaker 2 One of my favorite songs i've ever written is on there it's called peace loving cowboys

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 it's uh it's a bop how do you what made you feel like it was your favorite kind of like did you just know i don't know it's just that that feeling it's like when you're writing the song

Speaker 2 everybody in the room has has that feeling it's like the holy spirit it's like you just feel it um

Speaker 2 and you just kind of feel like the song's gonna be around for a long time yeah even if that just means that like you're gonna sing it 30 50 years from now. And so that's how I felt about it.

Speaker 2 I was like, I'd be okay with singing this song for the rest of forever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you kind of have to, I guess, and you have some truck songs already. Do you feel like you can't do any more vehicle songs?

Speaker 2 I got a vehicle song on. Look, don't you even play.

Speaker 2 I'm doing what I said I'd never do.

Speaker 2 Shotgun. One called

Speaker 2 King George, King James. King what? King Ranch, King George, King James.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 God, I want some of that. That's it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got a heart like a damn

Speaker 1 F-150 hybrid, I think.

Speaker 2 A hybrid breaks down a lot.

Speaker 1 Them bitches will break down, dude. And they will, actually.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh. Heart like a Prius.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a song yours? Hot Like a Prius?

Speaker 2 Heart like a Prius.

Speaker 1 Oh, Heart Like a Prius. Oh, yeah.
What about look up some

Speaker 1 Lainey Wilson songs that she never, the titles of songs she's never done.

Speaker 2 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Use Perplexity and see what they got.

Speaker 1 Pick up whiskey on a Wednesday.

Speaker 2 Look at twanging my bones. Twang in my bones.
That's good.

Speaker 2 I got that twang

Speaker 2 in my bones.

Speaker 2 I think you'd eat an MRI, bro, if you have a twang in my bones.

Speaker 2 Did you see Moonlight Daydreams? Oh, my God. Is this what people think of me? Mason Jarr Miracles.

Speaker 2 Hey, those are some good peaches. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Kissed by Kudzu just sounds like you need some damn calamine lotion. That's all that is.

Speaker 2 Kissed by your cousin. Yeah, kissed by your cudson.

Speaker 2 It's just some guy who has a kudzu rash on.

Speaker 1 He's so

Speaker 1 inflamed from the kudzu, you can't even tell if you're related or not.

Speaker 1 Kissed by my cuds.

Speaker 2 That's a good one.

Speaker 1 See if they make them sillier. If you look up goofier ones,

Speaker 1 there you go.

Speaker 2 Honky tonk hiccups. Honky tonk hiccups.
That is hilarious. Yeah.
but it'd have to be honky tonk hiccups

Speaker 1 saying

Speaker 2 boots gotta be the best

Speaker 2 they should have dude there there has been a time where i thought i was about to have hiccups on stage uh-uh oh yeah and what do you have to do to oh i think you're supposed to eat a bunch of sugar or something right i do that anyway oh yeah all right so i ought to be clear but uh

Speaker 2 No, and then there was one time where I was like, I don't know what's happening, but I feel like I'm about to burp i'm feeling i don't know

Speaker 1 and it's just like you have to just get it off your like somehow get it off your mind right just like start staring at somebody or you're about to sneeze oh the craziest that feeling one guy came to get like uh it was it somebody's introducing me to their uh to their friend the other day and the guy just kind of came in for and as he's coming in for like a close like handshake thing i was just going in with sneeze i didn't know you did not i sneezed right into him sneezed right into the guy yeah and i think that's like a mating call in some cultures or whatever I didn't mean it to be, but it just was like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 What did he do? Huh?

Speaker 1 He just kind of went like that. I don't know.

Speaker 2 What would he do?

Speaker 1 He wasn't stoked. He wasn't upset.

Speaker 2 He was,

Speaker 2 he was understanding, but it was, you know, did you say, I'm sorry, or just like, thank you. I was like, well, what do you expect? You know?

Speaker 1 So, and that's what I think about the government. That's what I said.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 What are some of the goofier titles bringing back up?

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 Lasso my latte. Oh, that's a good thing.
That's what you're doing over there right there. God, I did.
Lasso the latte.

Speaker 1 Boot scooting Wi-Fi is pretty good.

Speaker 2 Stop.

Speaker 2 Hold up.

Speaker 2 Gravy on my guitar. It just reminds me.
Hardy

Speaker 2 took me and some of my crew to a strip club in Huntsville. Mm-mm.

Speaker 2 And they have biscuits and gravy night. Uh-uh.

Speaker 1 Yes. Oh, that's great, huh?

Speaker 2 On Thursday nights.

Speaker 1 And how much is it? Is it pricey over there?

Speaker 2 Well, he gave me 101s, and it was like, have fun. It was like my end of tour gift.
It was.

Speaker 2 And you're over there just buying biscuits and gravy. Well, it wasn't biscuits and gravy night that night.
We had just missed it. This was like a Friday night or something.
Oh, got it.

Speaker 2 Huh.

Speaker 1 I've seen them do bingo night at a strip club, too, which is kind of cool because everybody will get right up there

Speaker 1 and be using their blotters and stuff.

Speaker 1 And some of of the Christian women would even blot out their eyes so they don't see all the sexual stuff.

Speaker 2 Uncle Buck's booby bungalow. That's it, right there.

Speaker 1 Is that what it's called? That's it. Uncle Buck's booby bungalow.
And they got biscuits and gravy. What night is that on?

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're going to have to ride on down there. Oh.
Ride on down there. Load up.

Speaker 2 Load up.

Speaker 1 I'll take tech for one last ride down there.

Speaker 1 God, I'm trying to think of what food goes good with

Speaker 1 a good tit or whatever, kind of, I shouldn't even say it, but you know

Speaker 2 anything.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, supposedly, I don't know if this is true or not, but they were like, y'all got to come back for biscuits and gravy night, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 And I thought, oh, that's nice, you know, sitting around eating some biscuits and gravy. No,

Speaker 2 they're rolling around in the gravy and people are throwing the biscuits.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I don't want that.
My mother loves

Speaker 1 biscuits and gravy. If I took her and you didn't get to eat it, she would be upset.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is Uncle Buck's third annual biscuits and gravy raslin.

Speaker 2 Wrestling. Oh.

Speaker 2 I love how they spelled wrestling.

Speaker 1 Well, the recipe better be good because I'll tell you this. If I'm even that close to biscuits and gravy, other people are.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm going to have a little. I'm going to have a little.
I'm going to have me a bite.

Speaker 1 You telling me somebody ain't going to whip something around fast enough?

Speaker 2 Or just something's going to land in my mouth, honey? You dang right.

Speaker 1 God, I just hope it's sausage gravy, too. I really like that.

Speaker 1 What about Halloween? What was y'all's Halloween like growing up? Do you remember that over there?

Speaker 2 I mean, we'd go to the house.

Speaker 1 Did you eat trick-or-treat, or was it, was there not enough folks?

Speaker 2 We'd have to go to Monroe to trick-or-treat because that was like the biggest town. We'd just go to like random subdivisions.
And

Speaker 1 go to the rich subdivisions.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 People that had lights out in front of their house.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. I was like, oh, these people got money.
Oh, dude. We.

Speaker 2 I got a pumpkin, too.

Speaker 1 We had electricity inside our house.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like normal people. That's right.

Speaker 1 But some people had a light right outside of their front door, and I was like, you got to be effing cute.

Speaker 2 I know. I was like, must be nice.
Must be nice to open your front door and see what's happening in the world at night.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh. That kind of shit pissed me off, dude.

Speaker 2 I know. I know.
But we would like some years.

Speaker 2 Like I lived on this one road that we just had a few neighbors. And so we'd go like see my granny and we'd go see, you know, the Olivos and we'd go down the road and see the Graysons.

Speaker 1 and would everybody dress up or no me and my sister would yeah yeah did you dress up for halloween yeah i dressed up i had some kind of alternative you or not like like our mom was always working so we'd have to get dressed up like our dad was like in charge of getting us dressed up or whatever and he was like 75 years old or whatever so he didn't know what was going on um

Speaker 1 what was i oh i remember one year i was a ghost but i was like too scared to stand under the sheet or whatever no you were you were like claustrophobic yeah or i was just like i'd be like ooh but but then I'd lift it up and be like, it's me.

Speaker 2 I'm under here. It's me.

Speaker 1 Like I would scare myself, you know?

Speaker 2 You are alive.

Speaker 1 Oh, I definitely remember that, dude. I was like, I cannot be a ghost anymore.

Speaker 1 What else? I was a wheelchair. One year I had a little chair, like a kid's chair that we put like around a rope on my neck, and I carried two bike tires with me.
It was pretty cute.

Speaker 2 You are.

Speaker 1 I swear.

Speaker 2 You need to be in that parade. I was, dude, what are you talking about? It's that parade that went through your whole town.
That's the parade you needed to be in.

Speaker 1 Tallest kid, best list.

Speaker 2 He always got his own car in that parade. Dang it.

Speaker 1 He's over there just trying to whistle at people.

Speaker 2 We might have been from the same town.

Speaker 1 Dude, yeah, there was something nice about that. Or somebody that had too many freckles, they'd put them in the parade sometimes.

Speaker 1 You know, there'd always be some girl named Abigail or something that had too many dang freckles. That's right.

Speaker 1 Dude, I'll tell you something that was amazing was I was in, I had a show in Winnipeg, Canada, after the show.

Speaker 1 They said there's some people here that are actors in town that are doing a show here and they wanted to come and say hello. And I got to meet the people from Little House on the Prairie.

Speaker 1 They're redoing it.

Speaker 1 Remember that show?

Speaker 2 That's cool. Yeah.
They're redoing it. That's cool.
So when's that happening? Did they?

Speaker 1 It's coming out. And I got to go to set the next day, too.

Speaker 2 What was that like?

Speaker 2 Awesome. Was it just like even the like

Speaker 2 the clothes and everything just seemed like from a different time? Everything. Period pieces.

Speaker 1 There they are.

Speaker 2 That's going to be incredible.

Speaker 2 And yeah, the reboot. You think you'd ever want to be in something like that? I don't know.

Speaker 1 I met the man who's doing Charles Engels, and he's,

Speaker 1 I would have to be his brother that was in an accident or something

Speaker 1 because he's really got the looks all locked up, you know? You ever meet somebody like that? They're so good. They keep all the good looks to themselves.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're over there just.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of people like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're over there looking at photos of themselves and shit. I'm just hiding from mirrors, you know?

Speaker 2 Exactly. I want them.
them to just turn the light out.

Speaker 1 I'm over there just buying five-watt bulbs from my house, you know, just trying to keep my own reflection away from me.

Speaker 2 Amen.

Speaker 1 Were you in pageants growing up? You were in pageants, yeah.

Speaker 2 I was in one pageant,

Speaker 2 and it was a

Speaker 2 Farm Bureau pageant. My mama back in the day was the Farm Bureau queen.
And so she was like, you know, I'd love for you to be in the Farm Bureau pageant. And so the on-stage question was:

Speaker 2 What does agriculture mean to you? And I think I had one line, and I think it was what really sealed the deal. And I said, Agriculture is the backbone of America.

Speaker 2 And then I think they just said, give it to her. Give it to her.

Speaker 2 Give it to her.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's pretty much what I was right there.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. You won it.

Speaker 2 I won the Franklin Parrish one.

Speaker 2 That's big, though. That's big, boy.

Speaker 2 But my sister, she went through a little phase where she was doing some pageants.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 this is hilarious, but she was doing the watermelon pageant. I think that's in Ruston, Louisiana.
And she gets up to the microphone and she goes,

Speaker 2 I'm Jana Wilson, Konkaskikent number three.

Speaker 2 And then in the microphone, she goes, shit.

Speaker 2 Walks off. She definitely didn't win.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But she won a lot of people's hearts.

Speaker 2 Konkaskikent.

Speaker 1 oh if you's a dying kankaskikant oh we had oh that's beautiful

Speaker 2 she was in another one and they it was a junior miss pageant and they asked her they said what does going green mean to you and she goes don't pollute

Speaker 2 she's off didn't win that one either god dang dude y'all needed what y'all needed was like a uh like kind of a question answer groom or something. I know.
Y'all didn't practice that.

Speaker 2 We needed a coach. Yeah, y'all needed a damn coach we just like had the bullet points you know i'm saying just one bullet point

Speaker 1 yep that's awesome dude you get to the point yeah that's it honey we don't not wasting anybody's time up here don't pollute yeah we got to get these crops out of the ground

Speaker 2 we do not have time to waste yeah

Speaker 1 did you um did you ever did you tune in with a lot of that john bonet stuff did you ever tune in with it I've, you know what?

Speaker 2 Like, I remember being a kid, I remember a little something about all that.

Speaker 2 But is there a new like show or something that's out about it right now?

Speaker 1 No, I don't think so. There was one that came out like last year.
Was it? And I watched it. Yeah.
And I mean, I think it's one of those weird things because a little kid was like this, you know, like,

Speaker 1 and so I started thinking about it. I think,

Speaker 1 and I know he's not going to be happy to hear me say this.

Speaker 1 And I'd love to have him come on the podcast and talk about it sometime. The dad did it.
Really? I shouldn't have said that, or he might have come on.

Speaker 2 Really? So did they, they did find her? I don't think you did it, sir. Did they find her?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they found her. They found her.
She wasn't alive when they found her. Some people think she's still alive.

Speaker 2 But yeah, anyway, sorry to bring the buzz down.

Speaker 1 I just didn't know if.

Speaker 2 That was so, what year was that?

Speaker 2 It was like early 90s, 96.

Speaker 1 Ooh, 96, baby. Dang.

Speaker 2 That is so strange.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 2 Strange.

Speaker 1 But did you get caught up like that? Was there people in there out there? Were you like, oh, this kid, you know, like, did you, were you guys that deep in the trenches of it?

Speaker 2 Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no.
We like went to the consignment shop and bought up, you know,

Speaker 2 bought the dress they had. That's the one I wore.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you guys were just kind of last-minute pageants.

Speaker 2 We're just like, or a double up, like if for the Farm Bureau pageant, I was like, I'm going to wear my prom dress for, like, I'm going to, we got to get our money's worth, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So that's what I did.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 2 That's what I did.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 2 Were you ever in pageants?

Speaker 1 No, we didn't have that. They did have a good, but I didn't have any direction as a child, and I did get to dress myself for photo days and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 Did you? And like, what would you put on?

Speaker 1 I do a tank top sometimes. I would do.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I did one year.
I did a costume, like kind of thing.

Speaker 2 Like a

Speaker 2 wheelchair costume?

Speaker 1 No, skeleton.

Speaker 1 And then one year, one year I did do a nice outfit. It was kind of like a bow tie and stuff like that.
Maybe see if you can search that up real quick. So you can find me in a little bow tie.

Speaker 2 You were like, I'm going to dress nice today. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I'd seen somebody else dress nice, and I was like, oh, I see what they're doing.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 I see what these bastards are doing.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh. Oh, there's one.

Speaker 1 That's when I lived in Russia for a little while.

Speaker 2 Different times.

Speaker 2 Right there. Yeah,

Speaker 2 boy.

Speaker 1 Look at that ear pierce, too, boy.

Speaker 2 Look at that hair. I had glasses, too.
I was blind as

Speaker 2 a picture of you. That's actually me.
That's me. Wouldn't that picture be you and I look the same? That would be crazy.
We brother and sister.

Speaker 2 Man.

Speaker 1 God, those are the days. That was fun.

Speaker 2 Look at that.

Speaker 1 Being alive, piercing your own ear. Did you do that?

Speaker 2 Did you pierce your own ear? Yeah. I do.
Would you pierce it with? I was talking about I'm a man.

Speaker 2 I did not. I went to the Claire's in the mall.
Y'all did? God.

Speaker 2 I was just a little baby. My mama got my ears pierced when I was like a few months old.
Uh-uh, really? Brought me home, and my daddy was mad.

Speaker 2 You got it looking like it is kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 Your kid can't even see that good. And you got, dang, you know, you got earrings.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like feather earrings. You got some big hoops coming off or something.

Speaker 1 Hey. What's the youngest you can get a child's ears pierced in America? There's got to be a two-week.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 There's got to be like a catch and release type of thing or something.

Speaker 1 with the youngest age to pierce a child here

Speaker 2 it's two months how what is it around two to four

Speaker 1 after that vaccine it says

Speaker 1 because i guess that they're putting that metal or semi-precious metal through your ear

Speaker 1 you can't be allergic to things that are semi-precious

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 2 that's it when when you're touring are you choosing places to go now or like what's that like well it's kind of like mapped out to the point where it's like i don't I don't know how it is for you.

Speaker 2 It's like, we want to try to make sure that, you know,

Speaker 2 we're letting the demand build back up in that city and things like that. And then

Speaker 2 trying to make sure that we are going to different places, you know, kind of like popping in some of these little corners that we hadn't really got to hit just yet.

Speaker 2 So yeah, it's like it's a team effort of just figuring out where we're going. We're about to go back to Australia.
Yeah. You been to Australia? So good.

Speaker 1 Did you go to Bondi Beach?

Speaker 2 I have not been to Bondi. Bring it up real quick.

Speaker 1 Just so you don't forget to go. It's worth going.
It's like 18 minutes outside of Sydney.

Speaker 2 Okay. And you just take a ferry?

Speaker 1 No, you can drive right there.

Speaker 2 Oh, really?

Speaker 1 It's the most beautiful beach I've seen. That's not like a super tropical place, if that makes any sense.

Speaker 2 Got it. So it's kind of like a city on the beach.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But it's

Speaker 1 a pretty man.

Speaker 2 I'd love to do that.

Speaker 1 If you have a family and stuff, do you think you'll raise them over there in Nashville or not? Do you know?

Speaker 2 I will. You will? I will.

Speaker 2 I think Nashville is just a good spot. Like, even if, if, you know, music wasn't a thing, I think it's just, I think they got like good schools.
And

Speaker 2 I feel like you can go far out. Right now, you can go far out enough on any side and still feel like you're in the country.
You know,

Speaker 2 I want to raise my kids like I did, like playing in the dirt. And

Speaker 2 I don't know. I just want them to like be outside and.

Speaker 2 And do the things that we grew up doing. You know what I'm saying? And like, just enjoy those things too.
Because

Speaker 2 you see these kids at these supper tables on their iPads and on cell phones. I'm like, oh, gosh.

Speaker 1 Grilling like digital meats and stuff on there.

Speaker 2 Yeah. We, uh, we, me and Duck took some kids that he coached last year to eat Mexican food not too long ago.
And these two little boys across from us.

Speaker 2 That's like

Speaker 1 that's kind of like it. That's the Louisiana way of kind of saying we're having a United Nations meeting.

Speaker 2 Exactly. That's what was happening.
Look, look, honey.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But these two boys sitting across from us, they were twins and they were just like for 17 years old, like carrying on great conversation, making eye contact.
Like it was,

Speaker 2 you could just tell that they were like raised right.

Speaker 2 And then I realized they said they had never had social media. And I was like,

Speaker 2 that's why you can carry on a conversation?

Speaker 2 Dang.

Speaker 2 Dang.

Speaker 1 Well, a lot of people are homeschooling their kids now, too, and keeping everything away from them, you know?

Speaker 2 Which I'm not trying to like, you know, keep everything away from them because I think then you kind of mess up, you know.

Speaker 1 Well, they said there's pedophiles in the Roblox now.

Speaker 2 That's what I heard yesterday.

Speaker 1 You know, that's, I'm, and I, yeah, I've heard it.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh. They're everywhere.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, but I didn't think they were in the Roblox, honey. You know, I know they were out in these streets.
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Speaker 1 So I just want you to think I'm making that up.

Speaker 2 Stop.

Speaker 1 That's how I feel too. I discontinue my account.
I just only had it for two weeks.

Speaker 2 You have to be protecting and watching. Like

Speaker 1 it's that's what I'm saying. You could do homeschooling.

Speaker 2 I want you to homeschool my kids.

Speaker 2 I'd love for you. Uncle Theo.

Speaker 2 all right

Speaker 2 dude that would be so that would be terrible what are you talking about man you would teach them something you would teach them you would educate them oh hell yeah boy you would educate them i teach them how to do cpr uh-huh

Speaker 1 with a unique style that a lot of people don't do which is what a lot of people breathe straight into the lungs i kind of take a roundabout pattern what are you like people's elbow on or something

Speaker 2 I do different stuff. Okay.
But are you really

Speaker 1 certified? Decent success rate. Yeah, I'm certified in CPR, honey.

Speaker 2 Are you really? I need to see like a badge or something.

Speaker 2 I don't believe it. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
I'm deputized. Did you know that? I can believe that.
Look, I'm deputized. Are you? Yes.

Speaker 1 Somebody in town that was a sheriff gave you one in Richland Parish.

Speaker 2 They asked my daddy to be a deputy. You better quit.
And

Speaker 2 then daddy was like, I'll do it if Lainey can do it. Yeah, I love that.
I went up there and got sworn in. Did you?

Speaker 1 I love that dude.

Speaker 1 I was at a Vols game like probably a year and a half ago and some guy up there, and I will say he was an, I want to say he was an alcoholic, but he had drunk a lot and he'd probably drunk most of his life.

Speaker 1 And you could tell because some of his kids didn't even talk to him or whatever. But anyway, what I was saying was he was like kind of,

Speaker 1 he was getting drunk.

Speaker 1 And I said, I'm going to go downstairs and say to somebody, and he goes, Well, look, man, if you have any trouble down there, he goes, I'm a sheriff, just flash my badge, you know.

Speaker 1 So, this guy gave me a sheriff's badge, right?

Speaker 1 I swear. So, I didn't know how they work or whatever.

Speaker 1 So, I'm down there talking, and then something happened in this area where, like, some people started, like, we're kind of talking shit to each other and stuff. So, I just break this thing out, right?

Speaker 2 I swear. You had the right promo size.
No, I didn't do that, dude.

Speaker 2 I'm not a cop.

Speaker 1 I'm a a sheriff, dude. I'm just, sheriff's just raised the bad shit.
That's right.

Speaker 2 That's right. That's right.
That's right. Yeah, and then they go get something to eat.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 But I flashed that thing and then a real cop,

Speaker 1 a female police officer, kind of like pushed me up against the wall. And she's like, what's going on here? And she like

Speaker 2 was like reprising.

Speaker 1 primanding me for having a fake identification or whatever. And I was like, the guy gave it to me, you know?

Speaker 2 But it was spooky for a minute. I thought they were going to take it.
You thought you were really about to get in trouble. Yeah.
It was like when was that?

Speaker 1 Probably two years ago or maybe a year and a half. I think they were playing Georgia or something.
And they got their tails kicked.

Speaker 1 Tennessee did. But yeah.
But I remember like, God, that guy's the worst sheriff or whatever. Like he didn't even, he didn't give me any.

Speaker 2 He's just like, yeah, like he could have told you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. If you got a piss somewhere or something or just whatever, that shit gets heavy.
You splash this bitch.

Speaker 1 And I flash that bitch. And they just

Speaker 1 oh my god right up against the wall that lady had me i was pretty nervous but i respect her she's doing her job right there that's right um

Speaker 1 oh that doesn't look too that looks like a first of all that looks like a pretty decent looking woman in the town i'm from

Speaker 2 i will say that

Speaker 1 oh i remember them haircuts yes oh god yeah well we had our bus driver we cut everybody's hair Your bus driver cut people's hair?

Speaker 2 Mr. Ray, yeah.

Speaker 1 He cut his hair. He had a barbershop.
I don't know if you had a barbershop anyway.

Speaker 2 I thought you meant as y'all were walking off the bus. He just

Speaker 1 would pull over probably six times a year.

Speaker 1 He'd have those clippers going. He'd just get everybody in there cut up.
You are lying. 40 minutes, he cut everybody on that thing.

Speaker 2 That is hilarious. Walk right off that thing.
Everybody be looking slick walking off there.

Speaker 1 Pretty slick enough.

Speaker 2 With their ears lowered.

Speaker 1 And the best thing is, if everybody looks the same, nobody looks better or worse.

Speaker 2 You ever had like a real bad haircut?

Speaker 2 I mean, like a real, real, real bad haircut.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, I've had almost all of them. I think if you just look through pictures of me online, you'll see them.
You're right, you're right.

Speaker 2 I've had one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I went to that Roberts Beauty College or something that was in our town and they were running a special. It was like 75 cents to get your haircut.

Speaker 1 And I was like, well, at that price, I got to go open there.

Speaker 2 100%. You got to see what it's about.

Speaker 1 It must just be a great deal. And so I got in there.

Speaker 2 I got in there, dude.

Speaker 1 And they were letting people that were just like, I don't even know if they were haircut. Some Some of them were just like recovering mechanics and stuff.
They were letting anybody,

Speaker 1 anybody who could keep their hands stable enough in that bitch, they put a pair of scissors in them. And yeah, they did stuff to me, man.
I can't, I still will never be the same.

Speaker 1 I walked out of there. And I had to walk home.
It was about two and a half miles. And the whole time I was so just depressed.

Speaker 1 And I kept trying to get a good reflection in my head and different things I was walking by.

Speaker 2 Dude, a bad haircut, like a real bad haircut,

Speaker 2 can

Speaker 2 it can be painful.

Speaker 1 Well, especially as a man, because it's like you don't have, as a man, you're not going to grow breasts or you can't wear lipstick. So like you were down 0-2 in your chances of.

Speaker 2 That's right. And then you just got to wait for it to grow back.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So you have one item going on.
You know, maybe you can do eye drops. But otherwise, it is a haircut.

Speaker 2 It is a haircut. Duck dyed his hair bleach blonde

Speaker 2 as a joke. Just like as a joke.
What a joke, was it? Well, I don't know, but I'm going to tell you right now, I didn't think it was funny. I didn't think it was funny.

Speaker 2 I said, you better sleep with a ball cap on until that thing grows out.

Speaker 2 Now it's starting to look like frosted tips. Uh-uh, really?

Speaker 1 We'll take him down to damn Panama City and let him make a little bit of a bad thing.

Speaker 2 That's where he did it. Uh-uh.

Speaker 2 As a joke, we were playing Panama City and my mama and his mama and he like had this bright idea.

Speaker 2 They all got it done? No, they just did his. They just did his.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 they videoed my reaction to seeing it.

Speaker 1 They did?

Speaker 2 And it was like.

Speaker 1 Let me see. If you can find it, pull that up.

Speaker 2 I want to see that. My mouth was wide open.
I was like, uh-uh. Nope.
The wedding's off. Wedding's off, bro.

Speaker 2 Weddings off, bro.

Speaker 1 Who's going to play at your wedding? Do you have to play at your own wedding if you're like a really good musician?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 I don't want it to be about, I want it to be about what it's supposed to be about that day. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like the love, the nuptials.

Speaker 2 Now, I might like write him a song or something and like

Speaker 2 share it later on or whatever before but like

Speaker 2 i don't know i'm just like

Speaker 2 yeah i just didn't know if you have to play it your own i never thought about that i'm not i want to have some kind of like jazz band or something like that oh big x the plug big x the plug he could do it which i loved y'all's interview

Speaker 1 yeah he's great he is great we went and watched his show in national when he was there it was fun He was?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The whole, yeah, it's just like, it's great energy, you know.

Speaker 2 Where was he playing?

Speaker 1 He was playing over at

Speaker 2 not Brooklyn Bowl. You're not, you're talking about Brooklyn Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yep. He was playing at Brooklyn Bowl.

Speaker 2 Got it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was good. I saw Red Clay Streets.
Where did I see them at?

Speaker 2 They are so good.

Speaker 1 I saw a video of you guys singing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You and Brandon. Yep.
In Canada.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 he's the real deal. Oh.
I mean, they put on a hell of a show. I'm just a fan.

Speaker 2 I think that

Speaker 2 it's just like timeless. It's like they stepped out of another

Speaker 2 time and they're just doing something so different.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I'm just a big old fan.

Speaker 1 And their audience is a lot of men, too, are their fans, I realized.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let me seal it by that.

Speaker 2 That's cool.

Speaker 2 My goodness gracious, let me tell you the news. My head's been wearing from midnight and day.
That having never

Speaker 2 been me

Speaker 2 out to the pencil, got it to me.

Speaker 2 You spoke to me with a voice so sweet. I thought I heard a shot when the rain goes beat.

Speaker 2 Oh, man, leaving the homes to steal.

Speaker 2 He said, Lady, don't do my will. But tell that long goes by.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 pass the hat. I'll put some money in that.

Speaker 1 I'll put my second born in that hat.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh. That's special, huh? Yeah, he's he's cool.

Speaker 1 Have you guys done a song together? No, do you like to do a lot of collaborations like that, or do you not like it?

Speaker 2 Well, no, I it seems to be really hot right now, too. I love collaborations, but I was doing a bunch of collaborations there for a minute.
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 You did. I know the one with Hardy that I loved.

Speaker 2 Wait in the truck. Yeah.
Oh, I forgot that was in the truck, too. Truck, truck.
Look, sorry to say that.

Speaker 1 I didn't. I look.

Speaker 2 I don't care if you're talking about it. How funny?

Speaker 1 God, I don't care if I just.

Speaker 1 I don't care if you, every one of your songs talks about it at CarMax. I'm still going to look some more.

Speaker 2 Well, I ain't going to do that. Okay, okay.
I ain't going to do that. I ain't going to do that.

Speaker 1 I forgot about waiting in the truck, too.

Speaker 2 Weight in the truck, four by four by you, heart like a truck.

Speaker 2 Truck, truck, and we got one, like I said, coming, King Ranch, King George, King James.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got a damn heart like a damn little

Speaker 1 50cc motorcycle, honey.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got a heart, got a damn

Speaker 2 outboard motor on it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I got a heart.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 I got a heart that's got it. That's got damn training wheels on it.

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That's the four-year-old. He was like, Call Aunt Whiney.

Speaker 2 So right when I think they don't love me, he says stuff like that to my sister. They tap in? Like, call Aunt Whiney and show her.

Speaker 2 I'm like, oh, see, y'all do love me.

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Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it would be fun to like teach a kid something cool, you know?

Speaker 1 If I had me a little kid, I think I would do homeschooling. If my wife wants to do homeschooling,

Speaker 1 I would be for it.

Speaker 1 But I don't want the homeschooled kid that stays at home and never meets any kids, even on the weekend or whatever.

Speaker 2 I'm going to set your ass up. Let me think of of who I can set you up.
You are? I'm going to set you up. Oh, yeah.
Thanks. What's your type?

Speaker 2 Woman.

Speaker 2 Just a full grown woman. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, obviously.

Speaker 1 But yeah, adult woman.

Speaker 2 Adult woman.

Speaker 1 Positive attitude. Warm eyes.
Wants to be a mom. Okay.

Speaker 1 What else?

Speaker 2 Hard worker. Okay.
Right?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 a nurse, I think I would like, but I think I may just say that because of hard worker.

Speaker 2 Yep. But

Speaker 1 I got to pray a little bit more about it too and just help get my

Speaker 1 kind of sights lined up, you know. Let the Lord kind of.

Speaker 2 I'm going to tell you right now,

Speaker 2 he can. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He can.

Speaker 2 I'll be praying for it too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Thanks.
Because

Speaker 1 you can meet people, but you got to like, you know, you just got to meet the right one. And sometimes you just got to be patient, too.

Speaker 2 That's right. And he'll make it clear.

Speaker 2 He always does. And I always heard that won, won't, wah about, you know, when you know, and all that stuff.
But, like, I, I do believe it now.

Speaker 1 Did you lock? Did you make like a little

Speaker 2 list?

Speaker 1 List or altar or whatever?

Speaker 2 An altar. Or like a.
Yeah, yeah. I made a list of like, I went through some doozies.

Speaker 2 I'm talking about like stuff

Speaker 2 I'm embarrassed about now. You know what I'm saying? I'm sorry.
God bless you.

Speaker 2 But embarrassed to think that I let somebody do me that way. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then, uh,

Speaker 2 and then met somebody who just would never in a million years. But

Speaker 2 I did like, I took a few years to myself. Didn't even go on a date.
Like, but also nobody asked me out either. Like, wouldn't nobody asked me out.

Speaker 2 And, um,

Speaker 2 but those years were, like, really important for me. And I figured out, I'm like, okay, like.
No more playing around. Like, I'm, I'm the next person I'm dating.

Speaker 2 Like, it's got to be, I'm not going to spend a few years of my life with this person if it's not like going in the direction that

Speaker 2 it's supposed to. And

Speaker 2 so I was like, okay, yes, I want somebody who is, like you just said, like hardworking. And I hate to say that this is even a quality on my list, but loyal.

Speaker 2 You know, that should just be, that should just be. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, it shouldn't be a quality.

Speaker 2 It is kind of true on me. I know.

Speaker 1 I got into a sad place.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 1 That I'm going to be their only spouse.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would love to be their only spouse.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I think like write it down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just have to be more intentional about it.

Speaker 1 You know, I've been get, I've been, I've done some of that, but I want to do, I want to do even more of it because I want to see how fine-tuned could you get that arrow, you know, if you really locked in with some intention.

Speaker 1 But I do notice myself not spending time, like a lot of times, like wasting it in areas, you know, or trying not to spend my time wasting it in certain areas, you know?

Speaker 2 Yes. It's just kind of like cutting the crap.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I think that's a big step right there.

Speaker 1 Right, is you deciding, yeah.

Speaker 2 Is just being like, just no more. I want something.
And then only, only the real thing can find you at that point. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're going to find somebody. She's going to be badass.

Speaker 1 She better be. I'll tell you, I'm already pissed at her a little.

Speaker 2 Are you? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm mad at her too. Thank you.

Speaker 1 I got a couple notes in my phone. I'm texting her right whenever I get her number.

Speaker 2 That's it.

Speaker 1 Because I'm definitely got it.

Speaker 2 She's going to have to be. I'm just trying to like envision what this chick is going to be like.

Speaker 1 She better work out of town sometimes.

Speaker 2 I'm telling you that. Okay.

Speaker 1 Because I don't want her messing my house.

Speaker 2 That's it.

Speaker 2 That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 I think the big thing I realized,

Speaker 1 I want to be able to have kids that have like a comfortable, a nice, like emotionally well upbringing. So that's what I need, like an emotionally well woman.

Speaker 2 Just a good girl. Like just

Speaker 1 well-rounded. Yeah, we'll find it.
Maybe she has a couple animals or something. Or we could get some animals.
Because sometimes you meet a woman, they already got too many animals.

Speaker 1 You could see they're trying to do their own little zoo or something. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Put that horse in the front yard. Yeah.

Speaker 2 On a front porch, you know?

Speaker 2 That's how that's how y'all going to live. Well, that's how I, that was my old way to meet a woman, just put that horse in the front yard, you know? But I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 Now the horse needs going to the back. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 But I can't live like that anymore.

Speaker 1 What else? You have a movie that's coming up. Is that true?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Reminders of him.

Speaker 1 Reminders of him.

Speaker 2 Reminders of him. Colleen Hoover.
And I will say I'm very excited about it. It was an opportunity for me to kind of dip my toes a little bit into

Speaker 2 being something other than a musician,

Speaker 2 which was fun.

Speaker 1 Well, I know you've done in some Yellowstone, right? Yep. Was this more like extensive than that? Or what was different about it?

Speaker 2 This, you know, it probably took me three or four days to like film my part.

Speaker 2 And I feel like with Yellowstone, because I was in like several different episodes, it was probably like a little bit more filming.

Speaker 2 But I had fun. I had fun.

Speaker 2 I feel like I kind of like found myself within the character, you know? Like, I realized that, okay, maybe I don't have to be playing music to feel like I can play the character.

Speaker 2 Dang, which is cool. Like I might,

Speaker 2 who knows?

Speaker 2 Who loves?

Speaker 2 I want to do a comedy. Do you?

Speaker 1 God, that would be good. You'd be so good at it.
We should make one then. Let's do it.
Me and David Spade wrote a movie. It's almost done.

Speaker 1 I can't talk about it anymore on the podcast because we've talked about it on too many episodes, but we're editing it right now.

Speaker 2 Is that so fun?

Speaker 1 The editing itself is a nightmare, but it's fun. Got it.
It's like a puzzle. You're like figuring out, okay, we got to to move this here.
How do we move this? What do we do?

Speaker 2 So it's probably like putting a record together. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's been a big learning experience.
It's been good, I think. But yeah, you definitely start to see like, oh, I could do more of these or figure out how to do it or create different ones.

Speaker 1 Like funny ideas. Yep.
Are you going to start like a festival back at home or anything?

Speaker 2 Do you think have you thought about that? We've talked about it. I mean, we've.

Speaker 1 Like, do you feel like you have to? I guess it becomes like a thing.

Speaker 2 I definitely like, would love to be able to do something specifically like for my community. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Just, you know, just to like bring in some more people, some more fans.
And like just even last year, we played a couple shows in Monroe back to back.

Speaker 2 And I heard, you know, that a lot of people had lots of business that week. And that's important.
I want people to flourish and do well.

Speaker 2 Like, these are, this is a community that believed in me before anybody did, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I would love to do something like that at some point, but it takes a lot of, like, I want to do it right. You know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. It's got to be right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You want to definitely have some

Speaker 1 crawfish trucks out front.

Speaker 2 Crawfish trucks.

Speaker 1 That'd be it. I wonder what your festival would be called if you had a festival over there.

Speaker 2 I don't know. What would it be called?

Speaker 1 I don't know. You got to think.
I mean,

Speaker 1 it's got to be like a neat critter that's from the area, I guess, kind of. I mean, it could just be the Laney Wilson Festival.

Speaker 2 No, there's something cooler.

Speaker 1 Well, there's something probably that had a little more critter in it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we definitely had a critter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, you have a decent amount of critter, it seems like. I'm not trying to uncritter you or whatever.

Speaker 2 You kind of uncritter, Mike. I didn't think I could.

Speaker 1 Dude, did you ever go on? Like, I remember you told me that you went on this horrible date one time. It was like a Valentine's Day.
Remember, we made a little cartoon about it?

Speaker 2 Oh, roses are red, violates are black. Why is your chest? It's bladder as your back.

Speaker 1 But, dude, it reminded me. So, one time when I was a kid, I stole my mom's car, barred it, whatever you did.
You know, you're like 13, and this girl down the street, dude, had

Speaker 1 she was just looking pretty good, you know.

Speaker 1 And she was like willing to sneak out of her house at night, right?

Speaker 2 So, I was like, Was she the same age?

Speaker 1 Yeah, same age.

Speaker 1 So, I was like, I'm gonna go pick her up, and we're gonna go out to this like boat launch area that you can park the car out there and dance a little bit and put on some country music, put on some top 40 or whatever.

Speaker 1 You know, they play some strawberry wine, or maybe some.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think of whatever else, maybe some

Speaker 1 John Michael Montgomery.

Speaker 2 Let's go.

Speaker 1 You know, something that'll just dang, just keep my eyes open, you know?

Speaker 2 So anyway, pick her up.

Speaker 1 And this girl always wore like a two-piece bathing suit, like, because she was on the swim team at school, right? So anyway, but I don't even know I said that, but anyway.

Speaker 2 Well, I needed the visual. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Anyway, picked her up. We go out there.
We're listening to some music.

Speaker 1 A car comes across the parking lot,

Speaker 1 goes into the water and starts to sink. Right.
We're the only people.

Speaker 2 Swear.

Speaker 1 We're the only people out there it goes right off the boat launch

Speaker 1 and then starts to sink and the headlights are up towards the top of the water the car sinks you are lying no and it's me and her and i'm like oh my god i'm out here we stole my i i can't call the polake what do i even do i'm gonna get in trouble right did you jump in the water we run right over there to the thing and um

Speaker 1 I was like, we got to get, we got to do something, you know, what if somebody's in there? Like, we were the only people out there. And she's like, okay, on the count of three, we'll jump in.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, dude, you don't do the count of three, dude. If somebody is drowning in a car,

Speaker 1 you know what I'm saying? Like, that is the way.

Speaker 2 One, two,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't, you don't waste people's time that are drowning if you can just jump in, right?

Speaker 1 So anyway, she goes, I was like, all right. She's like, no, we have to do it.
I was like, all right. So she goes, one, two, three.
I jump. She doesn't even jump.

Speaker 2 You are lying. And she's a swimmer.

Speaker 1 She's a swimmer. And I'm not that great of a swimmer.

Speaker 2 And that's a life lesson right there. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
That's why you need to pick a woman who is willing to go that extra mile. That's it.

Speaker 1 Because there's a lot of these fake-ass swim team bitches out there. But anyway, moving on.
Anyway, I reach down in the car.

Speaker 1 I get underwater, reach down in the car, and I feel like the car seat and stuff. And they had like one of those like covers on the car seat that was like that fur, you know?

Speaker 2 You know, they had the white fur seat cover sometimes.

Speaker 1 It was like, I don't know, it wasn't like Dalmatian. It was something nice, you know, and light, something.

Speaker 1 It was fake, probably. Yeah.
But anyway, yeah, something like that.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Wolf or something.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 so I touch it and that scared me so much. I thought, I didn't know if it was somebody's ski it just like, so I start kind of vomit, like underwater.

Speaker 2 I'm like getting sick.

Speaker 1 Get back up above the water. Now I can't hold my breath to go down, right? Like the car's completely underwater.

Speaker 1 So get out, we run back to the car, drive to this bar that was close by, and we started just like, we ran inside and we're like, this car went off into the water. There's like six people in this bar.

Speaker 1 They all clear out of there and then they all run down to, they all drive down or run down to this, to the dock.

Speaker 1 And people are jumping in the water, saying some lady's name or something. Got in my mom's car, left.

Speaker 2 So you don't know what happened?

Speaker 2 Left one day. There was somebody in there, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 How did the news not come out in the town or anything?

Speaker 1 I mean, we were kids, so I don't think we would have heard it probably because it was more adult stuff.

Speaker 2 So did your mama ever know that you took the car?

Speaker 1 She does now.

Speaker 2 She does. Sorry, mama.

Speaker 1 Almost saved that woman, mama.

Speaker 1 And if you'd have let me borrow your freaking car without a freaking ass, I probably wouldn't have been able to save her.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't have to sneak back home.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I think that was something.

Speaker 2 I'm still thinking about the girl not jumping with you. Oh, it's unbelievable.
You can't stay on a count of three and then not go.

Speaker 1 And who has time to do count of three? Somebody's drowning. You're like, all right, one, two.

Speaker 2 You don't do that.

Speaker 1 I don't know what ever happened to her. Dude, there was a beautiful girl in my town that kissed me one time by a fire, and then I never, ever, ever saw her again.

Speaker 2 That's how it goes. God, uh-huh.
I wonder where she's at. You remember her? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yes, I remember her.

Speaker 2 We need to get in touch with her.

Speaker 1 And she let me brush her hair for almost 15 minutes out there.

Speaker 2 You literally just had a brush and you were just combing her hair. She brought it.

Speaker 1 I'm not that creepy. Yeah.
But I would, yeah, I helped her out.

Speaker 2 That was my 4-H. That was your 4-H.
It was.

Speaker 1 What is this? Oh, you see, Justin Bieber showed up, this fake one?

Speaker 1 What you talking about? That a fake Justin Bieber showed up the other night.

Speaker 2 To where?

Speaker 1 In Las Vegas, and everybody thought that it was him. I'm like,

Speaker 1 this does not even seem like him.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 It seems like Chet Hanks just had a long weekend, kind of.

Speaker 2 What in the world?

Speaker 1 But there were literally, I guess, like thousands of people flying.

Speaker 2 Watching everyone get scammed. It was wild.

Speaker 2 So many people get scammed nowadays.

Speaker 1 I just saw the other day that we were at one of the biggest scamming times. What are some of the biggest online scams?

Speaker 1 Have they had any Lainey Wilson imposterators?

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. I mean, I don't know about dressing up like that and whatever, but I'm just talking about like online in general, like the amount of messages I get about.

Speaker 1 Oh, ticket scamming, all that stuff?

Speaker 2 Well, just like people who think that they are like actually in a relationship with me and stuff because like somebody's pretending to be me. And so it's, it's really bad.

Speaker 2 I've ruined a couple marriages on accident. Didn't even mean to.
You didn't. Yes, I sure did.

Speaker 2 Lainey. Yeah.
They're like, my husband of 30 years believes he's talking to you and this and that and whatever. Yes.
And I'm like, oh, no.

Speaker 1 And what do you have to do then? You can't call me.

Speaker 2 There's literally nothing like,

Speaker 2 there's nothing I can do.

Speaker 2 I'm just besides like telling y'all about it, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah. If you are not married to Lenny Wilson, you are not married to Lenny Wilson.

Speaker 2 So that's, well, you think it ought to be that simple, but I mean, I've heard, I've heard all kind of stuff. I was,

Speaker 2 I mean, one woman got scammed by a buddy of mine, and she showed up to the show, had her bag packed and everything, and was just waiting there.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm going with him. And they were like, no, ma'am.
Like, but she had been communicating with somebody online. And thought it was him.
And thought it was him.

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 1 It's getting that real.

Speaker 1 I guess I would be shocked. How could you think it would go that real online?

Speaker 2 You know, it's like a certain, what I've noticed is it's like a certain age group of,

Speaker 2 it's probably like lonely, lonely people. Right.

Speaker 2 Whether they're married or not, they're lonely. Right.
And

Speaker 2 I don't know. It's just like they just find like the right person.
They must try it to a million people to find the right person to actually convince. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, and they're asking for money and they they just uh

Speaker 2 give them lots of money lots of money and it's sad it is sad

Speaker 1 I just I guess I don't I mean like I guess I'm trying to think if somebody emailed me and said I am

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think of somebody that would really

Speaker 1 have me just fired up probably

Speaker 1 Can't even think of anybody off the top of my head. Probably like a night nurse or whatever, like a ICU nurse.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 1 no, that's not it. It'd have to be somebody faint, like you know, publicly, probably.

Speaker 2 Huh? Somebody that you'd be like, I can't believe they're messaging me.

Speaker 1 God, yeah.

Speaker 1 Who could that be?

Speaker 2 Maybe Pamela Anderson.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one of the Spice Girls or somebody.

Speaker 2 Spice Girls, for sure. Ginger or Baby Spice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, or Marjoram or whatever, isn't that one?

Speaker 2 Sporty Spice.

Speaker 1 Oh, Scarlett Joneson. Who else? Johnny Depp? That's a man.

Speaker 1 I don't know. None of these people are doing it for me.
Maybe Tom Hanks.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 if Tom sent you an email,

Speaker 2 look, Tom, one of the best actors in the world. But if he said,

Speaker 2 Theo, I'm in a bind.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I need $200,000. Because

Speaker 2 that's the crazy amount. It's not just like, hey, I need $100.
Right.

Speaker 2 People are

Speaker 2 getting

Speaker 2 screwed, glued, and tattooed.

Speaker 1 I would not say that. I would send him maybe $1,200.

Speaker 1 I am not saying that.

Speaker 2 Say, God bless you, Tom. Yeah, I'm not sending somebody.

Speaker 1 That much money is crazy. Yeah, I don't know what goes into the psychology of that.
We should talk with somebody and learn about that.

Speaker 1 What is one of the biggest scams that's happened online with somebody? But I mean, that one with Justin Bieber is crazy. People thinking that that's him?

Speaker 2 Like, I remember like Kip Moore got scammed, and there was like a Dr. Phil episode about it.
Not Kip Moore, but

Speaker 2 somebody

Speaker 2 was getting scammed by somebody pretending to be Kip Moore. And it was just like the girl really thought she was, you know,

Speaker 2 in a relationship, like for real, for real.

Speaker 1 I'll have friends that will send me stuff. It's like, oh, is this you? And it's like a fake email or something.
It's like, that would be insane if that was me.

Speaker 1 Like, if you read through this, you know, it had like recipes for things I like for dinner. So I'm like, who you think I'm going to send something like that? But I guess, yeah, people get caught up.

Speaker 1 I mean, I've fallen for stuff when I was growing up, Ponzi Sheen, stuff like that. So I guess we've all fallen for something.

Speaker 2 I was trying to buy a French bulldog. You were bit by a French Bulldog? No, I

Speaker 2 I was trying to buy one. He's got good taste.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some old French Bulldog.
And I got scammed. Nuh-uh.
This is probably about six years ago.

Speaker 1 God, now that is not cool. Because they are really cute.

Speaker 1 And you see them and you just wanted them. And do you see pictures or they also had videos of him?

Speaker 2 It was just pictures. I mean, I'm a dumbass for thinking that.
Like, I've learned a lot.

Speaker 2 That was definitely my thought.

Speaker 1 Really thought it was Jelly Roll. Ohio man says he was scammed by AI video of the singer.
A Springfield, Ohio man said he lost money. I really thought it was Jelly Roll.

Speaker 1 Appeared to be from a celebrity that happens to be a fan of. The message said he won $50,000 on a brand new car.

Speaker 2 I want to see it.

Speaker 1 Then the account sent. a video of the man who appears to be singer-songwriter Jelly Roll asking him to cover shipping to get his prizes.
Huh.

Speaker 1 They're not linking to the video, but this is the image from the AI-generated video.

Speaker 2 That is insane.

Speaker 2 That's the thing, Theo. Like, used to, you had to be like, I got to see it to believe it.
Right. But now,

Speaker 2 you just got to figure out yourself. You got to have that wisdom and discernment whether or not you believe it or not.

Speaker 2 I mean, there's been stuff in the past month going on about like me and Duck having a baby, getting married. They gave me six fingers on one hand.
Uh-uh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, and you say you're cheating when you're doing your songs or whatever.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And then, like, they put my daddy in a hospital bed picking his guitar.
And I was in a wedding dress in the hospital room because I had to go to him to get married.

Speaker 2 And then I showed my daddy the picture. And

Speaker 2 he's like, not pissed about just AI making that rumor up. He's like, I got more hair than that.

Speaker 2 I'm like, really? That's what you got to say? I got more hair than that.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 Look, if you got it, you got to keep it.

Speaker 2 That's right. That's it.
Dang.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess everything's getting weird out there. Yeah.
But have you met any actual impersonators of you?

Speaker 2 There is,

Speaker 2 there's a girl in London that actually puts on,

Speaker 2 she teams up with this guy who I believe does Luke Holmes. So it's like her and her name is Georgie, I believe.
They just like put on these like co-headlining shows together, which is really cool.

Speaker 2 It's like a...

Speaker 2 There she is right there. That's pretty cool.
Elaine Wilson experience.

Speaker 2 She's awesome. And she's got the dance moves and everything down.
Like, she does Lainey Wilson better than me. She does.

Speaker 1 That's got to be pretty funny.

Speaker 2 I'm like learning some stuff from her. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 She's got the whole outfit and everything.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool.
Look, she does a cowgirl of a night. She like, she just got it going on.
I'm proud for her that she's like,

Speaker 2 you know, making a job out of it. Like, yeah, it seems like a fun job.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's pretty special right there. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my niece's first show that we went to together was your show over here in Baton Rouge. I think it's probably two years ago.

Speaker 2 We're about to be back in Baton Rouge. Y'all are? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm about to have to come.

Speaker 2 Yeah, come on. I'd love it.
We're going to be there in September. Tell your family, come on.
God, I want that.

Speaker 1 My mom's down there now. She would come.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
Tell her to come on.

Speaker 2 I'll bring her. Come on.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I'll have to.

Speaker 1 Oh, I saw that they just opened up your

Speaker 1 exhibit at the Country Music Hall of Fame. Yes.
Did you go see it yet?

Speaker 2 I did go see it. It was wild.
My mama kept everything.

Speaker 2 She kept my baby blanket. She kept this little like plastic star that went like on the wreath the day I was born and it said a star was born today.
You're lying. No.

Speaker 1 So they were betting on you.

Speaker 2 They were like, she got to do it. Lord help us.

Speaker 2 God, honey.

Speaker 2 Yes, it's so cool because I really got to like kind of zoom out. And, you know, it looked like a bunch of tiny little steps, like everything I've done since I was just young.

Speaker 2 And then, like, me impersonating Hannah, Montana, all that stuff. That's my journals.
I wrote Tim McGraw a letter when I was 18 and was like,

Speaker 2 All I need is a shot and I can do the rest. You did? And I still have never met Tim McGraw.
I think I need to send him the letter now.

Speaker 1 Well, I think you guys will probably make a movie sometime soon.

Speaker 2 I'd like that. But yeah.

Speaker 2 Is that you right there? That's me. My God.
That's me on a good day.

Speaker 1 I thought it was your stunt double from England. Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 That's Georgie.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that'd be so good.

Speaker 1 You start sending her to spend time with your family?

Speaker 2 I mean, honestly.

Speaker 2 They might like her better than me.

Speaker 1 Leni, that's so cool.

Speaker 2 It's cool.

Speaker 1 And that's in the Country Music Hall of Fame?

Speaker 2 Yes. It's like everything I've

Speaker 2 ever done. For me, like being able to look at it with my parents and, I mean, because they worked their butt off so I could do what I was doing.
And they, when I tell you, Theo, they believed in me.

Speaker 2 They,

Speaker 2 they're, they're the kind of people who are, they're real realistic. You know what I'm saying? Right.
Like, people don't, those kind of things, like, don't happen in our area.

Speaker 2 But for some crazy reason, they're like, no, this is, what's she going to do? Like, this is like, we know it.

Speaker 2 And they helped me do whatever. I mean, whether it was like helping me buy my camper trailer or

Speaker 2 if there was like a singing competition somewhere in another state or whatever, I was like wanting to sign up for it. And like mama would take me and

Speaker 2 Daddy would pay for the gas, you know, like it was just like a team effort.

Speaker 2 So it's cool just to see

Speaker 2 everything come from it. And it's just awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, parents just want to be proud of their children, right? And so I think, you know, and parents get proud of their children if they see them do something small or big, I think, you know.

Speaker 1 And so I'm I'm sure even just to have a, like, to have something like that where so much of your child is kind of like

Speaker 1 recorded and has some, you know,

Speaker 1 in a museum, that's damn.

Speaker 2 I know. I said, I ain't never been more proud that my mama was a hoarder.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But she kept it. Oh, it's beautiful.
They were trying to send this tractor tire swing that we like

Speaker 2 used to swing on. I'm talking about this tractor tire swing that was like this big around.
They're like, no, we don't, we don't need that. My dad's like, no, y'all take it on up there.

Speaker 2 They're just trying to clean out the house, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, there's this stack of your dad's old pants.

Speaker 2 You're like, What the hell? No, just take it. I don't want to take them up there in the Nashville.

Speaker 1 The exhibit just morphs into a garage sale.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 what

Speaker 1 I know your bell-bottom pants. I remember being at your show and seeing all these

Speaker 1 girls and some men wearing different kinds of laney bottom-style pants, right?

Speaker 1 Do you have a brand that's pants now? Or did that become like a thing?

Speaker 2 So I actually have a partnership with Wrangler, which is so much fun because we get to do like,

Speaker 2 we have like our fall collections and then we'll have some stuff for the winter and then we do spring and summer. It's just fun.
It's like another way for me to be creative.

Speaker 2 But we actually just launched a bootline too called Golden West and really was inspired. from really just like when I think of songwriting and how I've kind of learned how to write a song.

Speaker 2 I feel like I've been given the opportunity to write with such incredible writers. They've kind of taught me how to step into other people's shoes and like tell a story from their perspective.

Speaker 2 Oh, there we go. There they are.
There's the somewhere over Laredo boots. Those top two right there are bestsellers right now.
Really? Yep. It's fun.

Speaker 1 People are wearing these little boots now. What is that called? That little booty.
A shorty. That's a shorty? Shoddy.

Speaker 2 Ooh. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I've been seeing those. We're going to find you a nurse and we're going to get her a pair of boots.
Yeah. We're going to hook her up.

Speaker 1 A couple Appaloosas right there.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 Heck yeah. And tell her she can take them boots on out of town if she wants to put them together.

Speaker 1 Never mind. She can come back at least once.

Speaker 2 Okay. That's what I was saying.

Speaker 2 At least once. Golden West.
Oh, I like those. Yep.
They got some

Speaker 2 styles. We're excited.
And it's doing really well already. And I'm just excited to like continue.

Speaker 1 Are they only online, or people can get them in some stores too?

Speaker 2 Only online right now. So, okay.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 2 And then we're just going to continue like dropping, you know, dropping some and see what happens. But it's going in a great direction.

Speaker 1 How do you start to feel about your, that you have the possibility to think that your best songs are still ahead of you?

Speaker 1 You know, I know with comedians, you start to think like, man, I'll never have a bit that's as good as that, you know?

Speaker 1 Does that affect an artist? Like, what's that like for you in your world? I mean, because you've had some, you know, you have a lot of great music.

Speaker 1 You've had some that have been bigger hits than others. That's just the way it goes.
But do you, does that, like, what is that like? Do you have fears like that ever?

Speaker 2 You know, I mean, it's absolutely like crossed my mind because I think just like being human in general

Speaker 2 probably crosses everybody's mind, you know, even like getting out of a relationship. Like, I'll never love anybody else as much as I, you know.
Yeah. But I think

Speaker 2 I keep like shocking myself or like surprising myself and being like, like,

Speaker 2 we ain't done.

Speaker 2 I really do feel like we're really just getting started. Like even the songs that I've been writing in the past six months for the next record,

Speaker 2 I feel like we keep leveling up. And I don't really know how that happens.
By the grace of God, so

Speaker 2 he's

Speaker 2 delivering.

Speaker 2 Amen.

Speaker 1 Yep. Yeah, I believe it.
I think, yeah, it's those moments because there's days where you'll feel like, okay, everything is being perfect. I'll feel this way.
Everything's on the right path.

Speaker 1 And there's days where I feel like, man, I'm on a detour right now, you know?

Speaker 2 And I think just trying to like

Speaker 1 tune, like, almost like you're using a tuner for a radio dial, just trying to tune my heart in, you know?

Speaker 2 That's right. It's like positioning yourself.
I'm learning that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's like positioning yourself so you can be, and also like getting rid of the things in your mind that are like stopping you or preventing you from finding whatever that next like

Speaker 2 great joke is or great song. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to get rid of those roadblocks in order to

Speaker 2 find them. Yeah.
And sometimes the roadblocks are people.

Speaker 2 Sometimes it's just like a.

Speaker 1 Sometimes it's, yeah, a damn roadblock. It's an actual roadblock.

Speaker 2 Literally. And you're just sitting there waiting for them to turn the sign around.

Speaker 2 You know, you just.

Speaker 1 But no, you're right. Sometimes it's people.
Sometimes it's a habit.

Speaker 2 A habit, dude. A habit.

Speaker 1 How many people have not had made certain amazing things things happen because of a bad habit, probably?

Speaker 2 God.

Speaker 2 I know. It's

Speaker 2 that's oh.

Speaker 1 I just want to get tuned in. It is the Lord FM, honey.
That's what I'm saying. That's it.

Speaker 2 The Lord FM. God, just reset.
Let me know when that's a station because I'm going to tune in too.

Speaker 1 Reset my dial.

Speaker 1 Tell Mr. Hodges that we said hello.

Speaker 2 I will. Yep.
Appreciate it. Come see us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to try to come see you there down there in Baton Rouge again. That would be great.
Cool. And yeah, thanks for all the beautiful music.
Congratulations.

Speaker 1 And thanks for coming and just chatting with me about Louisiana.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Yep.
This was fun.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Congratulations, Lainey Wilson.
Best of luck.

Speaker 2 Now I'm just floating on the breeze. And I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
I must be

Speaker 2 cornerstone.

Speaker 2 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of mind. I found I can feel it in my bones.

Speaker 2 But it's gonna take

Speaker 2 a little