E560 Antonio Brown

E560 Antonio Brown

February 07, 2025 2h 2m Episode 560
Antonio Brown is a former NFL wide receiver who played for the Pittsburgh Steelers, New England Patriots, Oakland Raiders and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Lately he is known for his social commentary and "Cracker of the Day" picks on X.  Antonio Brown joins Theo to talk about his active online presence these days, his favorite players and moments from his legendary NFL career, and why he thinks "Cracker of the Day" could help solve America’s racial problems for good.  Antonio Brown: https://x.com/AB84 ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit  https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ  Underdog: Sign up for Underdog with promo code THEO, or click the link, and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and a Free Pick with your first deposit: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-theo-von  BlueChew: Go to https://bluechew.com/ to try your first month of BluewChew FREE.  Symmetry Sauna: https://www.symmetrysauna.com/theo  BlueCube: Head over to https://www.BlueCubeBaths.com and get $1,000 off when you mention Theo’s name. ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Cam https://www.instagram.com/cam__george/  Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Today's guest is a former NFL wide receiver, a pro bowler, maybe one of the greatest NFL receivers of all time. He played for the Pittsburgh Steelers, the New England Patriots, briefly for the Buccaneers, and possibly for the Raiders.
Since then, he found himself in multiple endeavors, like his prestigious Cracker of the Day Awards, where he gives out awards to whites and honkies and others.

I had a good time getting to know him.

He is very unique.

Today's guest is the C-T-E-S-P-N

bad boy, Mr. Antonio Brown.

And I will find a song

I've been singing

I'm on this. Like them, get off my DG.
Yeah, people on it? Oh, I didn't see them, but I believe you. They got a lot of lurkers around here.
A lot of lurkers. Yo, I like this haircut, though.
What is that? A mullet? Let me think of how they call it. I'm trying to think of the term for it.
That shit is swaggy, though. I ain't going to lie.
I think it's... Yeah, some people call it that.
I never... Oh, it's a rat.
I know your hat say rat tail. That's rat king, baby.
Rat king. But I think for me, it's just...
Oh, we on right now. We live? No, we can wait.
I'm live. I'm ready.
Come on. Shit, we in this...
We on... We fucking here, though.
Some people call it a mullet. I think it's just as is, man.
You want to go shades today? We can do them. What do we got? We can wait to put them on, whatever.
Whenever you... We got to step into the shade time.
All right, we'll do that. Let's put like a shade on.
I need a pair, though. Bring my guys some shades.
Let me see what we got. You got some of those?

Yeah, put those shit on.

Are they?

Yeah, gas station movie theaters.

7-11, 7-12, bitch.

Welcome.

Let's go.

We taking it to the next level in these bitches.

We going to the movie theaters.

We got to go 3D.

All right, we going 3D out the gate, boy.

Right to the movies.

I'm with TV, baby. Good to see you today, man.
Good to see you, boy. Right to the movies.
I'm with TV, baby.

Good to see you today, man.

Good to see you, TV.

My movie theater.

Why they don't call you TV?

They always say Theovan.

They don't just say TV.

I'm trying to think

if some people says TV or not.

Some people might say it,

but I don't know.

It's a good question.

Come on, man.

Your nickname should be television.

Yeah. Yeah, listen, I'm trying to think of what a good nickname for me would be.
What's your nickname, AB? Gold Diva. Good Dick.
Mr. Catch-em-all.
You never heard of Ash Ketchum? Ash Ketchum? Ash Ketchum. Uh-uh.
He catch Pokemon. He does? But his slam was catch them all.

And it's an Asian guy?

Yeah, Asian guy, yeah.

Oh, they love to get out there and catch them drawings, you know, animations.

They should have an Asian Pokemon.

Catch them all.

Championships.

Yeah, that'd be cool. That's something I would love to witness more of AB good to see you man Thank you man how you doing I'm alive man You know it's a lot of pressure out there Facts The trenches are getting fucking tight Real tight It's It's getting sticky It's getting Sticky Bro somehow I have to leave my shoes and just walk off in my socks, bro.
Got to. Got to leave your footprint and we out, bro.
Pull an A-B, bro. Just be out, bro.
Fuck it. That's it, huh? Yeah, that's it, bro.
That must have been the best day whenever you quit your job. Yeah, that was the best, bro.
Because I think there's a part of that, bro, where everybody could feel. Because everybody wants to take that shirt off And walk out there Take that moment right But some people can't Buy FedEx Buy fucking What's another good company Buy UPS UPS Target Anything Yeah It's always good man When you go walk out on your own freedom And make the moves That you believe in You know because in life life is already written for everyone if you want to be a football player you know if you're in high school you got to pass the clearinghouse you got to have the right grades for the sat it's a certain requirements that they lay out for you gotta for what you got to be to be that yeah in my life you got to lay out what you want to be within yourself and most of the time you know the most important thing is to be in tune with God you know what I'm saying yeah cause I guess as a football player the path is kinda there it's like you gotta do this you gotta be everything lined up for you right in my life you gotta create your own life man you gotta have the freedom and the balls to you know choose what you want football don't last forever, there's injuries.
There's a lot of things that go into it.

Oh, hell yeah.

Oh, damn.

Y'all got them. We got the honey pack.

Y'all got them backwards, huh?

Yeah, I brought some Zy.

Yo, I know you.

You can smoke it, man.

I'll watch you.

All right, bet.

I'll fucking watch you smoke that shit.

This is like therapy.

You know, as a black man, they always want to fuck me over.

Who does?

Backwards? How many's in there? They put five in there, huh? Yeah. Why? You think they shorten you? They always shorten you.
You got to have one on the bench. Oh, damn.
And what's in there? That reminds me of Poppy Steak. They bring that steak out to you.
You been there? Of course. That's what all the girls like to go.
Poppy steak, huh? Yeah, they like that beef at poppies. Dang.
That's when everybody comes running. You shake that.
I like you shake that eight ball at a party. Bro, you have them coke ghosts.
They show up like, ooh, they've been dead, but they hear that eight ball shaking it, but like, ooh. They go crazy when they see that 80.
Dude, I, oh, there's poppy steak right there. That's where they pull up.
Yeah, that's the movie steak. They grilling that meat right there.
Yeah, they're going crazy. That meat came in a lunchable.
That's a fucking, bro, that's a rich-ass lunchable. That's a fireable, right? That's a rich-ass lunchable right there.
That shit came in a hot pocket. Dude, my mom used to put silverware.
She would fucking, she'd put silverware in a lunchbox. Nothing in that bitch.
She tried to open it up. Bam, boy.
And I could, what the fuck is eating? Nothing, bro. Stay hungry, huh? Stay hungry, motherfucker.
Keep going. Keep going, boy.
You're the chitches. Hey, what do you want to get, bro? My mom had a good sense of humor.
She'd be like, ha, ha, I love you. That's what she put in there.

So the note was nice, but it still, yeah, I would have preferred some proteins or something in there.

But, yeah, what you smoking, Backwoods?

Yeah, I smoke Backwoods.

I got my nephew some good Backwoods clothing for Christmas last year.

Sweats and hoodies, right?

Yes.

He's a Backwood guy?

I think he's nine. I don't know if he is or not.
You know, he's still pretty young. He's young.
He's a Roblox guy. Okay.
But if they did a Roblox backwood collab, he'd be on it. That's him right there.
Max in the middle. Oh, yeah.
Handsome kid. Yeah, he's pretty good.
He got a good hairline on him. I know.
Kid's swaggy. Yeah.
I don't look at him too much. Where you from, Dale? You from New Orleans? I'm from outside of Louisiana.
I'm outside of New Orleans. Trying to think if we had any pro athletes that came out of our area.
Yeah, one of my baby moms said they came from the same spot you were in. Really? Yeah, you know I got a baby mom collection.
How many? Oh, damn. How many you got? I think I got enough in the backwoods, maybe five.
Oh, wow. You got a pack.
You got a starter pack. Yeah.
I woke up a sour patch. Where's my starter pack? Dude, I heard somebody say you're not a real black father until you've had three kids.
Is that true or not? Like in the black community, that's what I heard. No, I think you ain't a black father until you get on child support.
Because then you know what it take to be a black father. I think my dad was on child support years and years.
I think it's just like in a black community, I feel like the government is taking a woman. It's like, yo, if you grew up in an inner city community, you had a kid with a woman.
It's like if you're going to go out of the way and and try to make some of yourself, the government going to take your spouse because now they tell the spouse, yo, you're going to be in Section 8. You're going to get free food, food stamps.
The government just took my mom. Now they took my mom.
Now my dad can't even come back to the house. So it's like- Why? Because if he comes back, then she loses the- The benefits.
So it's like, exactly. So it's like, the government really just took your bitch so as a black father it's like man to experience that you really you know i mean to be a black dad and in all seriousness it's like really bad because you have a kid and you're trying to go out and make some of yourself and these women the government come in and take it right out because it's like yo it's to be a dad.
My dad had me when he was in college at Louisiana Tech. Oh, he went to Louisiana Tech? Yeah, my dad.
Up in Ruston, huh? Yeah, right around you. Right around your area.
Was he playing ball up there? Of course. My dad was touchdown Eddie Brown, like the greatest receiver all the time.
Bring him up. I want to see a picture of him, man.
Touchdown Eddie Brown. Pull up to Louisiana Tech.
There you go right there. Pull up Eddie, bro.
If you need him, he's in the end zone. That's where you're going to have to pull him up, bro.
Yeah, they call him touchdown. He got like 300 tutties.
Hey, bro. Yo, he's like the number one arena league football player all time.
Really? Did he play in Boise? Where did he play arena at? He played in Albany Fibers, the team I just bought. And I realized they don't want us to own shit either, bro.
I bought the team. They was kicking me off the field.
I think I just got to move out of America. What do you think, TV? I'm trying to think where you could.
Because you would be considered an export at that point. Yes.
So that's a trade agreement we'd have to get with another continent, I would guess. I'm trying to think of who we could get for you.
Who could we get on the international market? That's a good question. That's what I'm saying.
Who could we do it? How could we do it? Who are we going to trade an AB for? That's what I'm saying. What's the market value for this shit? Yeah, what's the uh...
What's the pussy rate on that? Yeah, what's the exchange rate on the NAS dick? You know, what's the exchange rate on the AB if we put you out there? For real, I'd be feeling like a cow or a dog. Like these bitches, Theo, these bitches want to milk me like a cow.
Who are you talking about when you say them? People in general, people that's around you that know your position. Like Theo, you're real successful now.
Like do people just take photos of you everywhere or do people expect more out of you? Like if you was going to a restaurant with your buddies, like who covering the town? Yeah, I think I would like to cover it most of the time just because I know that I have the ability to cover it without having to worry about it as much. Maybe, you know, the next day or week, you know, but sometimes, yeah.
You don't feel like a cow? I feel like a cow, but I feel like I'm my own shepherd at the same time. You got to be your own shepherd, but you don't want people to treat you like a cow.
You don't want people to treat you like a cow. Yeah, no, I think, no, I don't, I think what makes me kind of uncomfortable.
Yeah, sometimes if people are recording you for no reason, that's weird. But that's weird.
But that's the new world we live in. Everyone want to get that film of you just so they can show somebody later or just feel like they cool by association.
And it's like, yo, boy, I didn't want you to record me right now. I'm relaxing.
Yeah. You don't need cameras right now.
Dude, I saw one one time. It was me just walking somewhere, dude.

And I'm not the best walker or whatever, you know?

How you walk?

You got a nice scroll?

Are you walking like?

What you emphasizing when you walking with a scrot TV?

I say chest up.

Yes.

Eyes up.

Yeah.

You on your toes or your heels?

I'm right in the middle, baby.

You know what I'm saying?

I'm that middle dog.

You won't catch me on the front or the back, dog.

Like that. Just somewhere in the middle.
I see at the 50-yard that's where i'm at bro right between the legs right in the middle yeah i'm that fulcrum baby i'm just because you don't know if the lord's getting me or the devil's getting me i'm right there i'm on that tightrope that's how i walk i like that i'm on that fucking tightrope boy you don't know if i'm fucking you't know what i'm doing i like that but yeah i like to be um i walk let me see yeah i kind of push my like forward i move like i'm moving forward like a demon wow yeah oh like a pretty nice demon though nice-ass demon. Yeah, but sometimes, yeah, I saw a video one time, and it was like, damn, this dude ugly, bro.
That was a fucking video. That was the caption with it.
I was like, damn. They was hating on you? Yeah, bro.
No, when somebody call you ugly, that means you swaggy. That's an excuse for it.
They didn't mean it like that. I think they didn't mean it like that.
I like your attitude. When people call you ugly, that means you swaggy.

Like, look at this ugly motherfucker.

That means you look a fly, bro.

You know what I'm saying?

Oh, that's a good attitude.

You're right, bro.

We ugly as fuck, son.

Ugly motherfucker.

Yeah, if you need me.

Ugly ass.

Look at these pieces of shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's a good attitude, man.

You're right. I am ugly, motherfucker.
And watch my ugly ass get some shit done. Yeah, watch this ugly motherfucker go to work.
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. That's a good attitude.
Man, you know, life is about attitude, you know why? It really is. People like to create narratives, create stories.
They don't really care how people feel. They don't care how your family react.
They keep us at a certain level. I don't think that's just a community because, bro, I grew up in Miami, Florida, Liberty City.
We had a big drug game, if you never heard about it, called John Doe. Yeah, Michael Irvin, huh? Yeah, but Michael Irvin from, like, Michael Irvin just played football in Miami.
I don't know if he grew up in Liberty City. I think he grew up in Broward, so I don't really know what his lifestyle was.
But I know I grew up on 58 Terrace and 17th Avenue in the heart of Liberty City. Wow.
You know what I'm saying? In the culture of a black community because I know I love to see you talk about black people, black community because I feel like you're from New Orleans, so you've been around a lot of black people your whole life. But being in Liberty City is not like the country because I know New Orleans is like country, low country.
It's like a mix. Louisiana is a mix of like.
Country. It's a mix of country, light city.
But in Liberty City, yo, we have like the John Doe boys is like the police of the neighborhood. Okay.
So like these guys, like you pull them up. Yo, pull up John Doe.
Wee, Basin, Blow. Pulling trying to watch later yeah I'm trying to show I'm trying to educate you guys about the black community where we come from look up the guy from John Doe his name Traven Bubba just look up Miami John Doe put it on these motherfucking watching Mythbusters on this bitch put something on man put it on Jack John Doe right there penalty case a john doe gang leader in peril is just disqualified city you see that in the 1990s in the 1990s in a uh okay and liberty city so when you do the homework the black community is ran by a john doe group gang they just make money in our neighborhoods you see what i'm saying So They don't even live there No they live there Oh they do They live on the next block On 58th street Yes Trav his family Had a whole crowd This guy had a whole It's like they was running A business in the inner city That wasn't the right business But they show The inner city people hope like the good cars that came by when we had football games they came and supported like you guys playing against them oh yeah we got here go to money jerseys they gave us hope nice shoes yeah nice opportunities to make us look forward for the great things yeah but these environments that was called what section eight you ever heard of section eight oh.
So these type of environments was given to who? Our moms. Most of the people that's living in the inner city is single moms that's been provided the house from the government to put us in these places with low-income people.
And so we had the 106 in park, the look at TV. We had the John Doe guys to come over and give us hope about, you know what I'm saying? They was like our neighborhood heroes because we didn't see, people didn't come to Liberty City and have regular lives kind of like.
No, they didn't. It wasn't like a lot of dads.
They were like doctors and shit like that. No, it wasn't a lot of dad presence, period, because it's Section 8.
Your dad can't even come around these areas. So these areas are outsourced by the government because now if your dad come in, play your mom, they don't get the food stamp card to buy you food.
So these guys are like our heroes that gave us hope in those situations. You know what I mean? Yeah, now I see that.
I never really thought about that concept before that the dad couldn't come back because it would affect... Now your dad gonna come.
If your dad come, your mama don't get the Section 8. She don't get the free the free lunch the free housing what women who have a lot of kids and a lot of stress and a lot of dudes with a lot you know what i mean yeah i didn't thought about it like that well in our neighbor in our in our area a lot of the black girls got they all got um um pregnant you know over the summertime after seventh grade because white people I love my white people, they put their kids on birth control at 16.
They already got a chip in them that's blocking it. That's probably because of other black moms.
They already had a kid probably early. So whatever your family or your mom, whatever you grew up in that situation, to you that would come the normalcy.
You know what I mean? So the percentage of black women going to college is pretty low. So if you're in a neighborhood where it's a fast neighborhood and people growing up fast and they're doing stuff fast, you're probably, I mean, the less likely chance of you definitely getting pregnant.
Oh, yeah. Because alpha male, you know, black dick is king.
Yeah. I haven't seen it.
Yeah, I don't see. Yeah.
I mean, I i mean i've seen something online i don't need to see any right now you know what i'm saying i'm good i hope these shades block out black dick bro you feel me because i ain't trying to see any today bro yo the rate of fucking yo in the in the liberty city they see a fine girl they're like yo tv you didn't nut You should nut in that. That's what the black culture are preeminated in Liberty City.
So then I have to go over and try to get some sex with a lady? I mean, no, they're telling you, did you nut in that? Like if you was from Liberty City and you brought a hot girl, they would have been like, yo, TV, you ain't nut in that? Wow. They give you the wrong guidance.
Oh, I see. At an early age.
Imagine, you were in the neighborhood. They didn't say, hey, TV, you didn't take that lady on a nice date? No, they all tell you to take her on a date.
They're just going to say, bust a nut in there. Oh, wow.
What up? Dude, the cracker of the year this year was Shane Gillis, man. Congratulations, dude.
Yeah, Shane Gillis is amazing, man. The cracker of the year was Donald Trump.
Oh, he was cracker of the year. Yeah, man.
He overcame so much. And he kept his class.
He kept his coolness. Imagine, he almost got killed while running for president.
Yeah. Almost got took down by people trying to take him to jail.
You never really see a cracker really go through this type of intensity of his life and the government trying to take you down. It's only like a nigga to be real but he handled it with such class did that give him more respect of course you see how many black people changed the tide and switched for him you see steven a smith apologize like a bitch yeah he fell on his knees too everybody exactly because he had a certain show it because trump showed that he could be a nigga handle it with class.
It's like black people go through that shit all the time. Look at my boy Young Thug.
Just fucking went to jail for some shit he made up. Some shit was made up.
Like he, you know what I mean? Free Young Thug. Free Quavo too.
Is he locked up? No, all these guys out. Quavo, Young Thug's out.
Oh, good. Free Young Dirk.
Free Young Dirk. What'd he do? Or what didn't he do? I mean, what they say he do.
It's a bunch of he say, she say. I don't know the facts.
Don't ask me, Jack. Don't ask me.
I got nothing to do with it. I got nothing to do with it, man.
You dig? But no, that's a big thing that happened for Trump was they put him on all of those charges, right, that he was in court every week. And then they tried to shoot him.
They tried to kill him. And so that's, if anything, if anybody, if any group could probably relate to some of that type of energy, black community.
They trying to kill us every day. You know about Martin Luther King, you see Nipsey Hull.
It's a whole list of, yo, pull up the list of black guys that was elite who just died out the blue. Maybe it was, what do they call it when they kill you out the blue and they don't even know? Oh, assassination or whatever? No, that's when they just kill you.
Oh, they just, what do they call it when they just, they kill you and they just be like, oh, it was a, you know what it's called. Oh, accident? Assassinate? Nope, we just tried that one.
Conspiracy? Exactly. It was a kapussy.
Yup. Kapussy, yeah.
It's like they think black people is like the new vagina, like the designer vagina. We're going to keep using them.
Keep fucking them. No, you're going to keep fucking them.
Like what happened to Kobe Bryant? I never see no other airplane going down. When other time has it happened when a chopper just went off like that? Yeah, and it was for Kobe Bryant, though.
I think Donald Trump just did a big thing yesterday. Released the conspiracy information for the King family.
Martin Luther King. Why is this hiding conspiracy amongst people of my kind of people that's being fucked over? Well, why, first of all, if we live in a country where it's free, where the communication.
Yeah. Why didn't his family didn't get the condolencesices to know what happened well why didn't we all just get the truth you know i'm saying why the files have to be like why is there a top secret files because black guys are like designer vagina i just give fuck i mean that go to list yo you got the list black linciaga bro yeah it's like they're just fucking you over well did you see some of the stuff i've I've seen is that people are trying to accuse him of being homosexual.
Of course. That's what happened with every black man.
They just try to throw him under the gun. Just throw your fucking shit that you build up like it don't even matter.
Under the LGBUS. Dude, Martin Luther King was in a hotel getting pussy before they shot him.
I believe he was. Come on, man.
You see how he looks? You think Dr. King is not getting pussy? Yeah, I could see him definitely getting pussy.
But that's what they do. They change the narrative on guys.
Well, they want to. Why they do that, though? It could be a character assassination.
Nah, yeah, it's always a character assassination when you're black. They're always going to make it seem like you're just too aggressive or too flamboyant.

You know what I'm saying?

But when you say they are, does it mean like, are you talking the FBI, the CIA?

I don't know who is they.

They is a word that you just try to figure out who is they.

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

So when I say they, I'm not talking about no particular people.

It may be, but it's definitely some people in power. I don't know who they is.
They is a mid-school word. That's why it's called compussy.
Conspiracy, compussy. Okay.
Because we don't know who the guy who's doing the fucking, but we know we getting fucked. Right.
Right, TV? Oh, if I wake up with cum on my shoulder, bro, something must have happened. Bro, I'm having wet dreams.
It's cum all over my fucking self. Something must have happened, bro.
Yeah, bro over my fucking self yeah bro i feel like what's going on what's going on what the fuck is going on don't ask me bro if you ask me i don't know i got nothing to do with it my name benny i'm not in it but i'm seeing what's going on i'm just seeing what's on. What do a mechanic and an auto shop owner in Georgia, a taco restaurant operator in Arizona and a life saving medical innovator in Tennessee have in common? They're all small business owners and they're all thriving on TikTok.
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Oh, go on. So that's why I started the Cracker of the Year.
To just bridge the gap between people because we all want a human race. And I was like, you know what? Let me bridge the gap.
You know, because I love my crackers. You know what I'm saying yeah that made me rich shout out to Art Rooney Dan Rooney some of my favorite crackers of the year you know I just you know we want to bridge the gap of racism but just yeah some of the ways to do that is humor I agree humor right you a funny motherfucker well thanks man you are too dude thank you bro you definitely you went you went about it some ways too.
That's like your own thing. I think you're really unique.
Thank you, brother. Did you always have a desire to be like, I know this is a kind of a strange question, but did you always have a desire to be unique or to be different? I just like be myself, man.
I feel like in life, it's free to be who you are. Well, were you always like that as much or were you more of like was there a point where you're like you know what i'm just gonna do things how i want to do them now nah you gotta always respect authority you know what i'm saying like in life you gotta know your position yeah and respect authority you can't really in life you need people you can't really do nothing by yourself like even playing football it's like yo, yo, I'm going against my man, but I got 10 more mans helping me out to make this easier.
So it's like, in life, you need a team. You know what I'm saying? You can never do nothing just by yourself.
And there's always a collective of people that's there in your corner that's preeminating your highest self. So to me, I just always felt like, yo, I grew up in Liberty City.
My dad was a great football player, but my dad endured a lot of adversities through his family. You know what I'm saying? We're just growing up in the 40s with my grandma.
My grandma having to work a job and my dad having to take sports for like a job early. You know what I'm saying? Right, so was it even something you think he wants? Because I feel like this and I was on, I wonder if there's a lot of young black men, right? Young black women that do sports that don't even really want to be doing them, but it's a means to an end because at some point it was kind of the only choice.
I think there's more choices now. Exactly.
You know, and that's just my outsider judgment. I'm not saying that I know that, but it seems like- No, you do know that.
That that that's a valid opportunity because think about it you growing up in liberty city bro we i'm growing up where it's like drug selling and dope dealers killings right in this neighborhood yeah guys that's going to prison for life right in this neighborhood so it's like you either become a part of that or you make a commitment right there and you're within yourself to be like yo going to be that. I'm going to do this.
And that preeminates the attitude and that individualistic I see what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? So right there you're creating some sense of individualism just by not going with the mainstream that is in those types of neighborhoods to have a little bit more drugs and violence going on.
Exactly because you can either be a part of it because you've seen it or you can commit to be the difference. You know what I'm saying? But do the people in the neighborhood that are committed to the more hectic lifestyle and the more trench behavior, do they look down upon guys who are trying to get out? No, they respect it, man.
Like those guys that come to me and be like, yo, don't do what we do, man. Ain't got money, man.
Make sure I got your jerseys this week, man. We got the game.
Two touchdowns. So they giving me incentives.
Like, yo, keep doing this because I feel like guys in the city, when they get accustomed to the gritty, it's just because they know. It's like, man, ain't no other way for us.
That's how my uncle grew up. My uncle just always felt like, man, I ain't working for nobody.
I ain't because he felt like he was already in the system but i just felt like man i wasn't gonna let the system deteriorate me from going after who i wanted to be yeah you know what i'm saying i feel like a lot of women that's in the black communities and males they get accustomed with the this the trauma and uh they always get addicted to it the trauma and everything because your whole family here you see your mom like damn this is what mom went through and turned it to so sometime i feel like you feel like man it's a part of my family now to just be here but to me you know i had the attitude like man i ain't gonna let my situation now affect what i can be and what i could do because in this situation right here i could make it better and then once once there's enough better avenues, the younger youths coming up start to see better opportunities. Better opportunities.
Oh, I remember, yeah, when I was growing up, the black kids in my area, they didn't have, we had like the best job you could have, it felt like, was a school teacher, right? We had a couple of black female school teachers. We had an assistant principal, Raleigh Coleman, shout r.i.p and he used to sleep in the trunk of his car at lunch a little bit he used to get catch him a little break catch him a little nap he's probably one time i was over by the fence i saw him getting in that bitch i'm like damn what's raleigh doing and he looked at me like he was catching a little nap yeah but they didn't have like a lot

like i remember dude it wasn't until a few years ago i went to a doctor for the first time that

was a black that's why i see you never i've never seen i and i'd never thought that i'd never seen

it before i've seen black doctors on television i'd seen but you know and i i'd probably met black

doctors but i'd never been into the room you're like okay you're gonna go meet with the doctor

and you get in there and it's a black eye like damn damn, is he going to know what's wrong with me? You know, I just, my brain didn't. Comfortability with it.
Yeah, it was just different. So then I started to think, well, I wonder what it was like for black people always going to white doctors.
Then be like, does this doctor care about like, just even just the thought in your head, right? Yeah. So that was just, it's definitely interesting.
I think you never really see people. I feel like you come accustomed to, you know what I'm saying? Like, it don't matter what color the person is in position.
You know what I'm saying? I feel like black people grew up where it was so rough. It's that you got to have a lot of love in your heart to not even.
Get into that. Yeah, to just turn demon.
It's like, yo, you got to have, you know what what i'm saying so black people do got a lot of love in their heart because you go through the most it's like yo i can't even be a good football player without somebody saying something negative and it's like i guess for a black person we're used to that we're used to people assassinating our character or putting pressure on us to turn oil to get more diamonds out of us because that's that's how we was built. Yeah, it's in the history, man.
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I always... Like, you fucked some black pussy before, right? Well, let me think about some of this.
I, yeah, I definitely... Okay, Did you have an addiction for the zona vagina?

I haven't been to the addiction yet.

Yeah.

This was an old one.

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You know about testosterone?

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Do you ever get like you got no pussy and you just feel like your mood off?

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Okay, then.

So you were a man.

You get it.

I'm not saying you addicted.

I'm saying you need sex because it's a part of the human body.

That's normal.

Exactly. It's normalcy.
You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, buddy. I know what you mean.
That's normal, man. That's normal behavior.
Let me think about this. You know, there was, I definitely, I envied black culture sometimes.
I mean, a lot of people envy black culture because black culture is where, like, people take a product to make it cool, right? So a lot of times, a company will come out with with a product nowadays they attach a black artist to it or put it through the black community in some way and then it makes it cool right does that make sense to you of course because okay i don't want to say i'm accusing of that or anything i'm just saying that that's what i've heard does that make sense to you that's pretty much a fact of the world is like name some things that's black that you need in your life? Coffee. I know every...
Oh, yeah. Coffee.

You got oil.

What else you like that's black hold on let me just ask you some questions ooh black olives alright so let me just ask you some questions yeah give me some black olives fuck them green olives bro if you was if you was to go get a haircut if you was to go get a haircut or if you were to call a a haircut, or if you were to call a handyman, what's some of the, like, Spanish woman clean the house for me, Mexican people clean up real well, you know what I mean? Like, what's some stuff you use black people for? Let me think. Feel good, music, entertainment.
Yup. So black people set the culture for, like, Artistic culture.
Artistic culture for how you feel, how you dancing how you dancing how you i mean the value of jewelry like you know i mean a lot of our a lot of culture is kind of set by the coming through the black culture let me think the let me think of the word i'm looking for give me one second here a lot of um black people i, add jazz to things, right?

And that could be to music.

Black people been getting robbed for everything.

What's the artist who was a big artist who just copied everybody?

Bruno Mars or whatever?

Nah, I don't know.

Bruno copied.

Oh, copied?

I didn't hear that.

It was a rock star guy who just copied every black guy song.

Big famous guy.

You talking about Elvis?

Elvis.

Copying off Chuck Berry?

All right, thank you.

Exactly. Robbed the black culture of all their songs if he would just let them go with it.
Did he? Bring it up. Did Elvis rob the black folks? I put that up.
Elvis fucked us over. Damn, really? His manager was a dog, man.
I'm not saying he didn't. Elvis was fucking girls that was 13.
How you think R. Kelly got the artistic to know like what a rock star is?

No, no, no.

You don't think so? R. Kelly I think came up

with a little bit

of his own shit, man.

Yo, Elvis was only

fucking girls

that was teenage ages.

No, no, really?

Yo, Google it

so we can educate

each other here, please.

Yeah, let's see

what's going on, man.

What did Black

and...

Ray Charles.

That boy stole Ray Charles

so bar for bar.

Bro, everybody stole everything from Ray Charles, bro. Come on, bro come on you're right but it's like Elvis was so big Elvis was so big right you couldn't say hey you couldn't say no against him you gotta give the credit to the people you take you just can't rob people of their art oh I agree with that you know what I'm saying you gotta at least get the credits in 1994 Ray Charles sat down for an interview with NBC's Bob Costas and gave scathing critique of Elvis Presley to say that Elvis was so great and so outstanding like he's the king, the king of what? I know too many artists that are far greater.
He was doing our kind of music. So he's saying that he's like he's saying like there was some culture vulture style going on.
But does it say that he stole? I'm not saying that he didn't. I've heard this.
Pull up the songs that Ray Charles said that he stole. He can show you the bar for bar.
Probably on YouTube. Yeah, I'm just trying to get some truth here.
Because I've heard this too. I don't know if it's true.
It might be. It's definitely true.
But think about it. If black people ran the country, it'd be true too.
Because they'll will they people in the way too. So it's not like a knock.
It's just a fact. If you came up in music culture and you heard about Elvis Presley.
Because what was Elvis Presley time that he was around? We probably wasn't even around when he was around. 50s or whatever.
Exactly. So you got to think back.
If R. Kelly came up and these guys were looking up to a guy.
Yeah. Oh, no.
I could easily. Yeah, play those songs right there.
Okay. 10 black rock and roll musicians Elvis Presley stole music from.
It was hard for black artists to get their music played on mainstream stations, but that did not stop record label executives and white artists from discovering music from black artists and covering their songs. Elvis was arguably one of the biggest stars to cover songs by black artists while mimicking their mannerisms and vocal inflections.
where here was a white kid that could do rock and roll or rhythm and blues or whatever name you want to call it. And the girls could swoon over him.
Nat Cole got in trouble in Alabama when the women swooned over him. Got put out of town.
And black people have been going out shaking their behind for centuries. What the hell is unusual about them shaking their hips and stuff? And that's all Elvis was doing was copying that.
This is Otis Blackwell. He is the voice and pin behind some of Elvis's biggest hits,

such as Don't Be Cruel and All Shook Up.

After briefly pursuing a solo career,

he decided to step behind the scenes

and become a songwriter when he discovered

how good of a living he can actually make doing that.

Yeah, I'm not saying I'm just curious.

I'm curious about it too, man,

because you always hear this,

but then I'll never really have any information about it because this kind of shit happens all the time in every type of community where in every type of business where people will see stuff they copy it and they take it there's still lawsuits about this every day it feels like also the laws at the time didn't like the laws protecting against this are stronger now than they were at the time i'm sure and if a black guy walked in a place that he stole my music he'd probably be scared to even say that because of the repercussions he was so big for the executives like back in the day there was a different time if you like just dive into the history and see like it wasn't big for black blues artists they was cutting you off that was what ray charles was saying like they was stopping your way for even making means you know what i'm saying i could definitely see that but that's part of being creative if he i don't i love every special yeah i want to say it's no knock on elvis but i just go back to the theme that was talking about black people in history been put down but if if a black person ran the world it'd probably be the the same way. They would just do it a different way.

They would do it for the black people.

But it's not like a bad thing.

It's just what it is. It's what it is.

Exactly.

But I could imagine this.

Imagine this, man.

Imagine you created something really cool, right?

Especially music.

Of course.

Because I think music is so special to people, right?

And then somebody stole it, right?

And you can't even, because of how you're perceived.

But that's black culture.

That's what I'm saying.

But how you're perceived at that time, especially, you couldn't even go in and say, hey, this person stole it. Nobody ain't even because of how you're perceived but that's black culture that's what i'm saying but how you're perceived at that time especially you couldn't even go in and say hey this person ain't even gonna represent you right we're gonna represent you to go after that so you gotta see your craft but that but that's the part of being black bro that's the anger that you know you're being raped of your character you've been character assassinated you've been conspired and it's like you still got to find the energy to put yourself up fucking put your shoes exactly just like being a football player like yo boy don't forget a football player is a number right it's you a number yeah they're picking many of you number 84 number 72 number two yeah it's all the numbers so it's like it's to come to an end.
You know what I'm saying? Like, what are you going to want?

You want me to leave when I'm hurt?

Or you want me to leave when they don't want me no more?

Okay, so how am I going to transition to another job?

Right.

Are they going to take, oh, all I could be is a coach?

Like, I can't even show up on time to be a player.

But, bro, if you work for FedEx, you can get that bitch there quick, bro.

No, I can't work for FedEx.

But I'm just saying, bro.

That's what I'm saying.

But that's like an average job, like from a guy coming in. You know how fast you can get that bitch there quick, bro.
Nah, I can't wait for him to say that. But I'm just saying, bro.
That's what I'm saying. But that's like an average job

from a guy coming in.

You know how fast

you can get that bitch there

less than overnight, bro.

You know how many hits I took?

The AB service, bro.

You get that thing there fast, bro.

You put a postcard

on that thing, bro.

Imagine how many times

I hit the ground.

I played football

since I was six years old

to like 31.

Like, yo, 27 years old.

Somebody, you waking up not even thinking in reality. My life is like, yo, how could I get open on, Theo? I'm living this.
This is my life, waking up. How am I gonna get open? How am I gonna win the...
That's not even real life, Theo. Well, is it? I mean, it's a short part of life.
Right. It's a stick.
Yeah, it's not real life, but it's definitely like... Nah, it's real, but it's like, yo, it's just a part of your life to get to a position in life where you can live a better life.
Right. You know what I'm saying? Because how many opportunities you got when you coming out of a black neighborhood? Like what you really could do? You either could represent the neighborhood, rapping and doing some stuff.
Okay, rapping. Maybe civet, like, you know, politics.
You could be a... Nah, I know a black guy coming from the city

being a hot dog. Oh, come on.
They got some...

What about that dude at the Trump thing the other day?

That was smokes and jokes.

Yeah, yeah, bro. That was smokes and jokes.

The guy at the Trump thing, do you see him?

I see him. Pull him up.
Pull him up, man.

Let me see what he was repping.

He was repping?

He was Martin Luther X. He was trying to

be everybody out there, bro. That's what I'm saying.
It just looked like a joke. He was trying to be everybody.
Yeah, he was the nigga of the day. Oh, he was? Yeah, he definitely was.
He's the only black guy doing some shit like that at a type of event. Well, you know who I'm talking about.
Exactly. I've been watching.
Yeah, yeah, man. That was hilarious.
He was doing a lot. Oh, damn, that's us right there already.
That's us, yeah. I'm putting us up.
And that's who is that guy right there. That's a real cracker.
He's the cracker of the day. Oh, he got it.
He got the ginger beer with the black fro. Oh, he look like this.
Now he's rocking out. He'll sneak in your bank account.
Yo, who is your top five flyest crackers? Because you got to be up there. Oh, I'm not up there, man.
Give me your top five. Give me a top five flyers crackers in the world that you know.
Wow. That I know or that I've seen or whatever.
That you'll give top five. All right, straight up.
Out the gate, man, my dog. Brian Purvis, bro, who I grew up with, bro.
Okay. One OG Wigga kid.
Okay. When they used to have him, bro.
I used to have a lot of more younger kind of like Wigga type of kids, you know? Okay. Like, you know what I'm talking about? Bring him him up right there coming to man one of the cues of attempted murder and arm robber that's my dog right there brian purpose bro he won it right now that was a long time ago nah they got him right now oh shit but he'll be back you can't hold him down bro he was in learning disabled bro because they put him in there for wanting to be a they'd never seen a white kid that wanted to be black right they put him in learning disabled bro they do that to them so you had people that had real learning disabilities in there for wanting to be a black.
They'd never seen a white kid that wanted to be black, right? They put him in learning disabled, bro.

They do that to him. So you had people that

had real learning disabilities in there.

Fucking Knock Knock Wilson was in that

bitch. And then you had Brian

Purvis just in there wearing like a

Scottie Pippen jersey and fucking just flexing.

Just got swag, right? Yeah, they're like, nah, we never

seen this shit. He must be mentally handicapped.

That's what I'm saying. When people don't see something they're used

to, they just throw you to the wolves

and that shit could create trauma. Imagine what

trauma that created in that kid.

Yeah, man. He just wear it.
He's trying

to flex a Larry Johnson jersey

and they put him in there, man.

They ain't understand him, man.

He's definitely in there, bro. He's goaded.

He's locked in. I respect that.

Other beautiful crackers that are out there

that are still existing well in the world.

Hmm.

Let me try to find a good

Thank you. Goated.
He's locked in. I respect that.
Other beautiful crackers that are out there that are still existing well in the world. Hmm.
Let me try to find a good. Travis Kelsey not up there? Nah, he's good, man.
But there's so much now. Everywhere is getting too much Kelsey.
I'm over Kelsey at the moment. So he's not in your cracker top five.
He's not in my cracker top five. Yeah.
I'm going to keep'll name some more okay um who your niggas of the day your top five niggas let's don't put it like that if we can okay because i can't you know well uh let me think some great um never ignorant getting goals accomplished come on gang gang gang baby let me think come on well let's go through some of the criteria. First of all, what is a criteria?

Because you have cracker of the day.

What's a criteria to become a cracker of the day?

You just got a good cracker energy.

You know what I mean?

You feeling like a boss.

Are you doing something?

You did something that was... Everybody loved their crackers.

What's your favorite crackers anyway?

Yeah.

What kind of crackers you eat it and watch it?

What's your favorite snack?

Just straight up that saltine that came. Nice.
I think it just said crackers on the box right there. There's a cracker of the day right there, a young white fellow with a joint.
She's holding him butt. There you go.
Oh, and there you go. So these are some good crackers right there.
Oh, that's Travis. Yeah.
You know, Travis acting like your guy. He got the gun with the Florida swag.
He was looking at it as your boy. Like, he look a little awkward right there.
Yeah, he got that Draco on him, baby. He pulling up.
Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence, yeah.
Yeah, that's a $200 million quarterback right there. Is he really? Yeah, for the Jaguars holding the scrap in Florida.
He looking like he know Yak. But you got to have that in Florida.
He looking like he know the sniper game standing like that. Right? That's swag though, right? In Florida, yeah.
Got that Florida swag right there. You gotta have that.
That's a Florida birth certificate. A fucking...
Being a cracker of the day is just being a cracker that is... That's showing up.
Exemplify confidence, boss-like energy, and that give people that happiness. Like, what do you see when you see Trevor Lawrence posted up with a Florida Gators top? Looking like a teenager, holding the scrap, like he's in Florida, understanding the culture and the energy of what's going around him.
I say, you know what? Let's give him one more year. Give him one more year.
That's what I say. You know what I'm saying? Let's re-sign him for another year.
That's what I say. That's what I say.
That's what it gave me. This guy right here, he under major pressure.
Zane Gonzalez. He got to win the game for these guys.
This is the cracker here type energy. He fixed this hair.
Ain't your head it's none of your head Zane but he got that cracker energy like he's ready to have that pressure he understanding this moment it's a big moment and he's getting his fucking hair fixed that's crack of the day that's crackerism right that's it right no ER bro yo he got the game on the line and he's going to get the shit done. Oh, yeah.
He fucking scratching ass right now. He fucking fending out the fade.
He's like, look, let me make sure my fade so I don't fade this ball, man. That's what he's thinking.
He's like, shit, the pressure on me. All these fucking black guys couldn't win the fucking game.
That's a good point, bro. All these dickheads.
Every time the white, the kicker goes in, the truth should be all these black guys couldn't win the game. All these fucking guys couldn't do it? And they trying to act like now it's up to me.
And not a pressure on me. And he bought this shit bricks.
Look at him, yo, best play. Look at Zayn fisting his face.
One top. Let's have him.
Back it up and let's see how many times he fixes shit. He fixes shit like 20 times.
Fix your hair. Yo, can we get the count? He fucking...
And he's two for two. He's's two for two right there And he's still fucking rubbing his head But he's understanding the moment He's getting this shit right He went overtime right there He did overtime at the end But you gotta look good for your moment too No but he look like his ass is tight right now Look a little Trump Jr right now Now what about him Now how does the how does he, now how does the community feel about him? That kid look like he's the next fucking, that kid look like he's the next fucking president and fucking assassin.
He the young dumb. Nah, he just look like a young Trump.
His body language, his face remover, like, it's like he got a subtle confidence, like he knows something we don't know. He look like one of them alfalfa kids.
Like just a kid. Oh, Tay.
Yeah. Like he got it figured out.
Like, yeah. I respect he doesn't put himself out there.
He doesn't try to do too much. No, he's a boss.
He's real low key. He got the mannerism of like he already got it figured out.
It's like he's one of those special beautiful crackers. Like you go to him when you got a problem.
He just make the problem solution. Yeah.
Yeah, he changed it. Like, right there, he look like he ready to change the tie.
He look like he's his Trump son. He's like, he's a younger Trump.
Like, the amazing thing Trump have done. You know, I got on a shirt today, man.
I didn't even see that, man. Yeah, shout out to Trump, you know.
Yeah, and thank you for telling me. Give me the shout outs, too.
I didn't realize that they did. Shout out to Trump.
Give me the shout outs too. I didn't realize that they did that.
At that point, after all of the things, man, a lot of people got on Trump. A lot of convicts, inmates, people that have ever been accused of crimes a million times that didn't trust the justice system, they all got on his side.
Because they knew Trump understand what it felt like. Now he knows what it feels like.

The build like a nigga.

Trump showed the world what it was.

And he freed

some of my guys.

Did he?

Sniper game.

Shout out to Kodak Black.

You know Kodak Black.

Yeah, he freed Kodak.

KB.

KB Kodak Black.

I wish them pills

would free him

because he didn't seem

like he'd been going through it.

No, listen.

Hold on.

Let's get this clear, right?

Anytime a black guy

is being judged or misunderstood or Kodak Black is a genius. Hold on.
Oh, I agree with that. Why do when a black guy is representing culture and representing something that you may not understand, it'd just be like, oh, he on drugs.
It seemed like every black rapper who become really well he's associated with drugs you think so future what did everybody know future percocet molly percocet but that's what everybody that's what people were singing yeah now all of a sudden kodak black get his life together doing billion dollar businesses opening up stuff right here locally in florida signing artists getting other people opportunity to live just a million dollar rapper yeah he's not just some drug addict guy who just he fucking got big businesses he got a team and how he's a real business a real business no doubt a real but you i think you i think yeah you're right you know i'm definitely judging just off of video clips that i see and stuff like that nappy hair a guy with goals, a guy with gold. No, I don't see the nappy hair and gold.
That's not the part of the judgment. Some of it is some of his behaviors and manners.
What's the behavior? Okay, what's the behavior? Just some of the like things where he's kind of fading in and out of consciousness. That's a part of being an artist.
It could be. He's still in his artistry.
You're right. That's what big people draw to him.
He's an artist. I agree.
But you just can't throw him to the side. Like not time he doing something cool or if he doing the lazy move oh he do the crazy he got the definitely he got like he got different dance he's got the he got the bop he's got the swag he got it oh he has like it's almost like a like a redesign of Bobby Schmert like the you know what I'm saying a totally different yo he's like he's like the African he's like the Haiti king man he's like oh I didn't even think of him being Haitian is he Haitian? of course you know what I'm saying, a totally different Yo, he's like the African He's like the Haiti king, man.
He's like Oh, I didn't even think of him being Haitian. Is he Haitian? Of course.
You know what it's like to be in Haiti? Yo, Haiti don't got water all night like America. Really? Bro, in Haiti, you gotta hang your clothes when you wash them on the line.
TV, if you go around the front of the house, your brother wearing your drawers. You sit in the whole neighborhood wearing your clothes.
Your clothes gone.

You don't fucking wait with this clothes?

You fucking stand right by there and watch them bitches drop.

Because your clothes, your boxers is wearing by your brother.

It's Haiti.

They're not getting clothes.

You're right, man.

Bro, it's a different life.

So before you quick to write off people.

I didn't write him off.

I'm not saying you wrote him off.

Jump to conclusions.

Jump to conclusions.

I'm not saying you. I'm saying they.
I'm saying they. But I'm part of that.
You're right. Jump into conclusions, right? Because sometimes we all do it.
I see a clip and jump to conclusions. Oh, you're right.
We all guilty. I'm not saying it's you.
It's us as humans. As a culture.
As humans. Just as humans, yeah.
As humans. Because we all get the same hours.
We all feel the same emotion. We all go through the same things.
Yeah. got to know how to be better people because they preeminate a better world.
Yeah. If we work together better and we get to know each other better, we can do better things.
Yeah, yeah. Because we all, we all here together.
We all need each other. No matter what you got or what we got, we all got to go to work together to make something work.
Yeah. That's what we call the ecosystem.
Economy. Economy.
Yeah, no, I knew this shit. I knew you knew it.
I knew you knew it, man. Yeah, but yeah, man.
That's what we're trying to do. We're trying to bridge together the racism to bring more people together so it's not a default of having your guy in prison because someone through, because bro, being placed in a position could make you feel a way.
Imagine your guy who you love, you put in your top firecrackers. Not because what he got,

not because what he doing,

because what his heart is like

and what position he was put in

and that position that was put in

preeminated his behavior

because he felt like shit,

everybody gave up on me.

And that is not a colored thing or...

That's a human thing.

Anybody who put it under the circumstance

of everybody saying, fuck you, eventually you gonna say fuck you yeah you know what i mean what's so funny that's i think that's one of the what i think when i was young i did like i could sometimes i don't even know if this is racist to say man but i'm gonna say that shit well get it off your Hold on. We all from different ways of the world.

Sometimes I would look at black.

Sometimes I would see black people or other black kids and stuff.

And I would be like, I don't know what their life was like.

But I feel the same way they do.

There's a little part of me that has the same feeling.

Like I just felt like the world hated me so far. Because you're different, bro.
You come from Louisiana, your country, look at your haircut, the way you talk. Yeah, I don't know what it was.
Just whatever it was, there was something inside of me that fucking was like. You feel like you a different guy, bro.
You got a creativity to give to the world, bro. You got a connection.
But sometimes I could, there was this little part of me that felt like I could mildly relate. Relate Relate mildly.
I'm not saying I don't know what it's like to be like somebody's life. And I'm not trying to keep interrupting.
I just want to be clear. I'm not trying to.
God, it's respect. I'm here with you.
I know you. God, man.
It's gang time. So if those, so the cracker today, so those are, it's just, it's a.
It's just the bringing, bridge the gap between people loving each other. Yeah.
Because bro, say some some of the words that Crackers made up. We all got different lingo and we all like it.
Yeah. You know what I mean? But you got to watch people's intention, though, too.
That's a huge thing. No, but that's what I'm saying.
The ex Elon Musk gave us an opportunity on X-Hop to speak freely and positively bring people together. So imagine, I started Cracker at a date that bring positivity to people.
It is fun. It's fun.
People send them all the time. Now look at that cracker of the day, man.
Everywhere I go, they're like, yo, Amy, can you make me the cracker of the day? Because this energy is, bro, the world is making people feel better. No matter who you is, people just want to feel good and live a good life.
We all know one thing in the world, right? We're going to pay taxes and die. In the meantime, let's just live a good life, man, because we don't know when the day is going to happen.
Let's just build each other up. I got black babe moms, white babe moms.
I love all people. Everyone should love each other and we should.
Well, yeah, no shit we should. We're just having a tough time doing it.
Nah, because that's why we need more people like you bridging the gap, talking about the stuff that's uncomfortable, making awareness. You should bring a black guy up here who's going through some shit and speak to a guy.
Bring awareness. Raise awareness so people know you know what's going on.
We can't change the rules that's aware of the world, but we can allow people to know we're aware of what's going on and we can be a part of the thing that make people feel good. Yeah.
Let us, let us least. Do I do diligence to also, but just to show each other that we're aware.
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It's okay to feel how you feel. That's the freedom of the world.
Right. You don't have to hide your feelings.
You don't have to hide who you want to be or who you are. Right.
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I know they're not in everybody's price range and that's understandable. But at the same time, I want to support my friend and and his amazing company now someone said that the prize for the cracker of the year was was shane gillis right shane gillis was what cracker of the year he was the uh funniest cracker of the year funniest cracker of the year and i agree very funny man and the funniest cracker of the year i agree he got my vote now my question is there was said that there was a prize where whoever won it got to say the n-word one time is that true or not i heard that yes okay because i feel like everybody in their life have said the nigga the word you said it rapping the song it's a party bro everyone said it and kids even tom brady one time told me man my son was asking me about it because it's thing.
It's like you put power on the word. Like, don't say that.
But words could mean whatever you want them to mean. It's all about how you take it and interpret it within yourself.
Oh, yeah. If you say I'm your favorite nigga, it's like, yeah, I'm your favorite black guy.
You know what I'm saying? If I say you my nigga, that means like you're my guy. Like you my brother.
If a black fella says that to me, I feel pretty good for that. Hey, you're my nigga.
I fuck with you. We genuinely have a bond that I care about you.
I feel like, okay. You know what I'm saying? Let's do it.
I'm going to buy some fucking J's. You know what I mean? I'm fucking ready to do this.
I'm fucking ready to do this. But now, why don't black people lease the N word out to be said at a certain event or something? I think there could be a lot of money in that.
Is that crazy to say that? I feel like just how you use it. You know, sometimes.
Oh, I agree. I don't mean use it in a derogatory way.
But say, like, tonight they had, like, Angelina Jolie was paying 50 bands to say it, right, on a live stream. That'd be cool.
And you sold tickets. Because you would want to see how she said it.
Right. So that's the thing.
And you sold tickets to it. Because she said it like she had slaves or she said it.
Right, right. Because I might be fucking a white girl and be like, yo, call me a nigga.
Damn, who are these people? You don't like that? Huh? I have no idea if I like it or not. But I just think like it's like.
It's prerogative. Okay.
You know what I mean? It's like exciting. It's just like it's fucking.
And will they do it sometimes? Yeah. No way.
Why wouldn wouldn't they i'll smack them on the ass oh i don't know i don't know giddy up oh i didn't know they're doing all that so i guess if somebody's fucking you you can say it that's crazy how many times you said there were niggas just like rapping a song or oh probably just a couple hundred times though i bet that's what i'm saying it's a it's a part of the words and we don't have to hide our feelings as people of saying stuff to be a normalcy. Right, right.
To feel, yeah, when it goes against kind of what's normalcy. But I think it's, yeah, obviously you want it out of like people that are using it in like a derogatory.
But do you? I feel like when people get mad anyway, they're going to use it in a derogatory way because that's what they was taught. To give off negative energy.
You know'm saying I used it one time there was a black cat or whatever was crossing my path or something and I was furious what you said look at this nigga say that shit let me know how you said it say that shit Theo right now say that shit it was around Halloween alright let me know how you say that shit let me know how you say that why you can't say it bro cause it's not gonna end well I don't think why would it not N-word. It's the N-word, bro.
All right. Let me hear how you say that shit.
Let me hear how you say that. I cannot, bro.
I can't say it. Why you can't say it?

Bro, because it's not going to end well, I don't think.

Why would it not end well?

It's the N word, bro.

Vocabulary.

You know what I'm saying?

But we have to bleep it out, don't we?

No, don't bleep it out, bro.

Like, just start.

Just be like, A.B., you're my favorite nigga.

All right, A.B.

All right, perfect.

Wow.

Why did we say it, man? I can't be saying that kind of shit. That's what I'm saying, bro.
I don't want to say it anymore. Nigga me, never ignorant.
I don't want to say it anymore. Never ignorant getting goals accomplished.
It's all about what the acronyms stand for, bro. Words can mean whatever you want to mean, bro.
But you can't be running. I can't be out at the mall or something and saying it, and I'm trying to stop somebody and be like, hey, here's the acronym.
You know, like that's the thing. I don't want to say it anymore.
When people know you from... You grew up with black people all your life.
Yeah, but I just don't want to say it anymore, man. How about this? Let me think about this.
No, because think about it. We got to change, reverse racism.
Yeah. And that's what the cracker of the day is about.
To make the comfortability because you don't have to hide some of your... But you can say you my G, you my champ.
You you my dog Calling me your favorite nigga It's not a bad thing because In 50 years people will look back and think that this is an important conversation I think Of course this is an important conversation because we're educating each other and we're bridging the gap of racism We should not be doing that dude This is where we are in life bro This is where we are, you're right This is where we are bro, right now That's where we are bro, that's true. This is where we are.
You're right. This is where we are, bro.
Right now.

That's where we are, bro.

That's why Trump the president.

That's why Trump went through all that stuff.

Being assassinated.

Right.

That's a black person thing.

Going through fucking the court system.

Every day.

And he's showing that it's bullshit because he's showing that.

He was at court, left court, only to try to be assassinated and had to go back to court.

That's fucking being like Martin Luther King, fucking Malcolm X, all these fucking black guys in history that we just went over. Cracker of the year, bro.
Look at that motherfucker right there, bro. He showed all black people that he understand what it take to be a nigga.
Gang, gang, bro. Assassinated, court.
It's like, come on. Everything.
He free, he free. Third wife.
Third wife, tall son. That's black stuff.
Of course, he got baby moms. I don't hear about his child support.
It's heavy, dude. But I'm saying this, though.
You don't think, say, if Angelina Jolie was going to rattle off an N-word at 7.30 tonight, right? And the black community sold it on a live stream, right? People could log on and pay to watch it. They're going to love that because know what they're going to like? They're going to know Angelina loves black culture.
She can say nigga. Right, but also then that money.
And not hide it. When you could be a realist and be truthful of who you are and not hide who you is because that's when you're being fake.
What's being fake, TV? Hiding who you is. So if you already sent it to yourself at Halloween, why you don't say it with your brother? I'm your nigga.
I'm one of your niggas. I just don't want to say it anymore.
You got to feel like a man when you say this shit, bro. You already sent it.
Don't be fake because that's the culture. I'm not going to fake it now.
I just don't like it. Because that's faking it when you sent it in secret and you're not able to say it around your people.
That's why I'm making Cracker of the Year the normalcy. You're my favorite cracker.
These are my favorite crackers because, yo, these are my guys. These are my brothers.
These are the gang gang. These are the people I count on and look up to.
These are the people who run in the world and put me in position. Well, it's funny because you really kind of came into this position.
Like, I got a text from Rogan yesterday, last night. Big time.
Middle of the night. I don't know.
Like, he's the human owl, bro. Bro, he's the fucking smart my, one of the fucking crackers of the year.
He's beautiful. Was he? I didn't know he was cracker.
Man, Rogan won some shit too. He was nominated? He won.
What do you mean? I didn't know he won. I thought you only gave one award out.
Yo, we had a lot of awards. You missed, we had like 12 awards.
You did? Yeah. Bro, I love what you're doing though because it's so, we're reversing racism, man.
I love it. Well, it's new.
We are human. It human it's new anytime this is like the kodak black thing and i go back to one of my friends kodak black tony o'brown kbav the guy moved artist street now they think he on drugs why he got on drugs this guy just got a nice bop to himself that sell his music the guy write his own rhymes i've seen him in the closet he fucking write the rhymes come back come back and put them.
It's like fucking genius. Genius level.
Kid been through so much adversity. Never gave up.
Sniper game. It's not to kill people.
It's to see the goal and hit it. Gang, dude.
How do you get in that? Sniper game. Kodak Black.
I'm going to tell him you want to be in it. Oh, that's his club? It's his game.
It's his game. That's my brother.
I got one of the chains. No, I love Kodak, man.
I don't think there's anybody like him.

But you're right. I jumped against Cruz's and thought he was...

Oh, I think he reminds me of Lil Wayne in a way, bro.

He's like that because think about it.

We grew up with this kid for almost a decade in rapping,

hits, records, and while going through adversity.

Lil Wayne went through adversity.

He was with the Hot Boys, went by himself,

was the only guy with cash money and fucking turned genius while going through adversity. Went to prison.
Came back. Kodak Black went through the same fucking shit and still on top of the game and music and creative screen and art screen.
And unique. But to come through all of that.
The perseverance. Fucking shout out to Donald Trump, man.
For freeing him, man. I love Kodak Black, man.
Not every. From Haiti.
If your clothes not off of the line, your clothes gone, man. That's it, baby.
If your clothes ain't off of the line, your clothes gone, bro. So imagine what it's like.
It's not water all night. It's not America, man.
You ain't got water all night. You got water all night, motherfucker.
Imagine that. Rich ass.
You coming back over here with little clothes, man. You ain't got no clothes.
Your shit shrunk. You got nothing.
Yeah, bro. What if a big dude borrow your shit and the next day you got to wear it again? Nothing, man.
Ain't no clothes out there. It's bad.
So it's like, yo, man, we got to continue to bridge the gap with people who don't understand and make the uncomfortable comfortable. Respect.
You know what I mean? And I feel like we got the power to do that. We got the voice and people, you know, and we already doing it.
If you already said no word nigga, then it should be comfortable when you see one of your favorite niggas. They'd be like, yo.
What's up, my buddy? I'm your favorite nigga. I think, well, I think there could be a day.
I feel like you got to get the comfortability to grow in it. You got to.
I can't practice that out in the wild, man. You got to practice it with me.
I'm your black friend. You're going to practice it with your black friend.
Okay. Yeah.
You got to practice it with you. Yeah.
Just call me. We have niggerisms.
I'll call you for crackerisms. Okay.
Okay. Hold on.
We'll just break bread. Like, yo, if, if you feel me, what do you say if you didn't have no breakfast waking up as a black guy? Yeah.
Fuck. We just eat a bag of chips.
Yeah. If you didn't have no food as a white guy, another barbecue breakfast, bro.
You like, yo, mom, we don't have breakfast? Mom, you know, you know, breaking bread with just cultural things. Because that's what I'm saying.
Culture create the economy. You know what I mean? So we create a diverse culture where we could talk about the uncomfortability.
You've seen Kanye West, one of my coach friends, talk about the uncomfortability and get people on his ass. But the only thing he was doing was speaking the truth of the uncomfortability.

He wasn't

trying to bring nobody down.

He just said something

that made people uncomfortable.

But as humans,

let's practice more with

saying stuff

that makes people uncomfortable.

No, no.

Let's make the uncomfortable comfortable.

Let's not make people uncomfortable.

Let's work towards

bridging racism

to make everyone, man.

It's okay if a white person

act like he's black.

Kodak Black want to be Kodak White sometimes. Sometimes he want to be a white boy.
He want to act like a white boy. Let him act like a white boy sometimes because guess what? Michael Jackson wanted to be a white boy.
He turned white. And an Asian woman.
He wanted to be everything. Michael Jackson bleached his skin to turn into a white guy.
Imagine what was going on inside of him, man. Of course, because he figured it out.
And man, maybe it's a little better if I look like them. Right.
Because they're in position. Maybe somebody will care about me if I look like this or something.
No, they'll make me the biggest artist ever because now it'll look more better. You think? I mean, if a black guy ran the world, who do you think he'll put in position? You know what? That's a good point.
If Michael Jackson didn't look like he looked, do you think he would have been the same success of artist? Might be right. Might not have.
You know? Who knows? Might not have. Not in a bad way or anything, but just no judgment.
As a fact, he might not have. He was a black kid singing in groups.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He turned white and went so...
Shake it, shake it, baby. Exactly.
He wouldn't have talked to like that as a white guy. I was like, that's different.
That's interesting, man. Yeah, man.
They had, what was I thinking about? What were you just talking about? Michael Jackson was alive. He'll ask me to smoke one for him.
Did he smoke a lot of pot or not, Michael Jackson? Bring it up. You know, Michael Jackson was really like how they portrayed him to the world was different how he really was.
Well, I heard he really liked women. That's what I've heard.
He used to call women fish. Yeah, good fish.
Springer. Yeah.
He gave a woman a hug. Yeah, you could do more than hug me.
And they never showed that side of him. They never ever will because they don't need to.
We need to show him in a real submissive. He don't need to be a black guy like dominant with his dick on you think they was, they, that's the thing, how media can change so much, the perception,

but they can't do that as much anymore.

Do you feel that?

Because now we got the ex-op.

Thank you for Elon Musk.

We could.

I will say that, man.

That is one thing I felt like he was, it was something where, yeah, wow, you can say anything

you want over here.

Because maybe me and you could get on the ex-op and be like, all right. TV and AB are talking.
Crackerism and niggerism. Yo, TV, if you go to a black party, how I got a black party? You should probably show up 40.
You probably show up an hour late. Hour late? Yeah.
And bring some food. A couple babes with me, too.
Of course. Bring in the hotties.
We need decoration. You know a decoration? Shit that look good.
Bottles in the club. Yeah.
You feel me? Maybe because I'm a thug. Right when I walk in, put on trick daddy, bro.
Right away. Or I fucking stand on the porch, dog.
You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? If you don't put on trick daddy, I ain't fucking coming in. It's a thug holiday.
It's a thug holiday. All day, every day.
I'm a th day. I'm a thug.
R.I.P. Trick, man.
R.I.P. Trick? Trick's still alive, man.
Oh, yeah. Damn, bro.
You crazy. You got to come to Miami, man.
I didn't know. He's down there.
That's why we got, of course, Trick got his soul food restaurant. He cooked.
Nuh-uh. Of course.
He got crazy with his pops. See, me and you, we should talk niggerism and crockerism.
I don't know how many times we can say say that on here, man What is wrong with that? They'll stop us, bro They don't want us Communicating like this You think they do? Who is they? Good question We don't even know who's they But they out there But we gotta do What God called us to do Is communicate That's all we do Having a conversation We're not saying That a conversation Can have changed anything We're just opening Our minds of people who get in uncomfortable so they can get comfortable to know two guys from across from the world from two different cabrids the gap of being comfortable to talk about how to see it from both sides yeah thanks man you know what because I think there's not a lot of times where it's like you feel with like if you're talking to a black person or a black guy where i feel like uh can we try to just be completely real about what we're thinking or what our what our thoughts have been or what our real questions are exactly all of that put that shit on the table so it's like dude i remember first time i ever uh i was doing high school sports or something, I was lifting weights and a black friend of mine spotted me, right? He was spotting me. And that was the first time I remember a black guy I'd ever even touched.
A black guy's hand? Touched my hand. Yeah, we were spotting each other.
But it was like, but I would just remember it. You know what I'm saying? Like thinking about it consciously, like, damn, I never just.
Right, I'd never. It was the same time when I went into the black doctors.

Like, oh, I'd never.

I just had never had, like, would it?

Like, okay, you know, let's do it.

But that's why we should talk about niggerism and crackerism because now it's like, damn.

For a person who never had that experience, they could tune in and hear me and you talk from both sides of a culture.

And people could dive in and be like, damn, that's pretty cool.

It's like that.

Like, oh, I understand that now. So now if a person should be able to go to a black party, they might have the Q&As if they had a black friend.

of a lot of people. And people could dive in and be like, damn, that's pretty cool.
It's like that. Oh, I understand that now.
So now if a person would be able to go to a black party,

they might have the Q&As if they had a black friend. So we're like, oh, shit, I was listening to TV and AB in the space.

And AB was telling the TV, like, you go to a black party,

how to, you know what I'm saying?

Right.

What the culture is.

Right.

If it's like, okay, and TV was telling AB about, like,

how crackerism if I was to go to a white party.

Different things. Yeah.
Different conversations. Yeah, I think we just have to change the name and take the N word out of the name.
That's going to be heavy for people. Yeah.
Because you can't have somebody talking to their friend and like, what are you doing tonight? And they're like, I'm going to this. No, I'm listening in.
Niggerism. Right.
But if somebody hears that, it's just not going to end well for people, I think. It's going to be a lot.
No, I think we just got to promote it. A bridge in the culture.
I don't know, dude. No, I love the bridge in the culture part.
Because everybody's saying it. Like you said, you said it under your breath.
So it's like. No, I've said it.
I mean, in music. Of course.
That's what I'm saying. It's a part of us in music as a culture of people.
So it's like, if you already said something. Yeah, there's, yeah, there's been people who've said it, I know.
Some people in our area used to write it in, like, put it in, like, a piece of paper, and then they would put it in a bottle, like, you know, a message in a bottle. And they'd throw it out in a river or somewhere, you know? Because I feel like the word has been given so much power through, like, generations of people.
But it hurt a lot of people so much. No, I feel like it only hurts you if you allow it.
Things in life only give, if you give it power to it. If you giving it power like, oh man, I don't want to say it, but I'm saying it's like, you giving it, it's like the boogeyman.
It's like, alright, you can go see if he come, but it's like, it's not real, but if you acting like, damn, the boogeyman might come. It's like, you getting that emotion in yourself, but it's like.
Yeah. As people, we already, you know, the biracial, interracial, it's all growing, man.
It's picking up speed. Oh, it's going to be beige.
I say all the time. In three generations, everybody's going to be beige.
It's going to be a mix. It's going to be a complete mix, man, especially at the rate that a lot of.
Every white family got some black dick in their family. How many black people you got in your family? One dick? Two dicks? How many people you got? Let me think.
I mean, mean i definitely there's always some black in a white family like oh yeah my yeah i mean my cousin is that's what i mean so you got black in you so you can't act like you're not dealing with black people on a day-to-day yearly basis that you have like you play with sports with black people so you heard you've seen the mannerisms yeah i think it was a lot more like growing up for course. And if I was at home, probably would still be kind of the same way.
Exactly. So you grew up with that culture already.
But if we get out I don't know if we can be out there. I mean, what do you guys think, Nick? Is that a realistic program to start or that sounds crazy? Hell yeah, it's realistic.
I think it could work. Why not? Well, I disagree with you guys.
Why do you think Elon Musk bought the X app from Twitter? Not by saying the N word. To give people the amendment back for freedom of speech.
Now, that's a good point. If we don't talk about the uncomfortable, how when you have an interracial baby and my interracial baby go to his white side of his family house? Yeah.
Because he got to learn that. He got to understand that because that's some thought he going to have in his head, just like your friend.
And now they're going to be like, damn, you mixed baby, but I want you to act white. And then it's like, what if he like wearing the jersey like your friend? Now they're like, oh, he fucking won't even want to be like us.
We're going to put him in a fucking LD culture. Now he doing something to ruin his life because somebody made him feel like no one loved him.
So he did something wrong out of spite because no one loved him. That's what he felt.
You know what I'm saying? So we could save. But he was cold on the court, though.
I know that. We could have saved him to make him feel like, yo, you're not weird.
You're not a dickhead or you're not an all ball, man. You're special.
You got energy because you got passion towards something that a lot of people don't. So let's use this energy to the right way so you don't put yourself in a position where you want it and you can't be around your close friend Theo now.

You know what I mean?

You can enjoy the life.

You know what I mean?

So it's like let's not be quick to shut down on the things that people doing that we already comfortable with.

Well, because think about this, AB.

If you had when people who said something that was crazy, right, at first people said, that guy is crazy, right? People said, that motherfucker is crazy, right? Write him off, kick him to the climax. Write him off, right? Even if you look at like Robert Kennedy Jr., right, I don't care if you like Bobby Kennedy or not.
He was a friend of mine before I knew that he was going to run for politics. We were friends, right? I saw him as a reliable, honest friend.
And then he started running for politics, and he was talking about the vaccine and shit. And people said, he's fucking crazy, right? I mean, people that knew him, people that mutual friends, like he's crazy.
And then he made it all. He made it past I'm crazy to getting half of the people to believe him, you know? Well, that's a part of the journey.
But that's how everybody's done that. Like, everybody who ever said anything that was important started off by saying it was unimportant.
It was not considered of value. It was uncomfortable.
It was uncomfortable. That's what I'm saying.
Kanye West, you seen what his financial statement say? Uh-uh. How's he doing? $2.7 billion.
Pull up Kanye. Pull up Ye.
Pull him up, man. Pull up Ye.
Have you seen him recently? Yeah yeah he's in uh china right now he live out in china oh wow yeah pull up yay look what it say the network is with the network on him in 2025 yay's network stand at 2.77 billy yes that's confirmed by etan venture services based on his music portfolio and his sole ownership of the EZMAR. Yo, Kanye West, the only black guy ever give me $2 million.
He gave you $2 million? $2 million. For what were we all doing? Oh, you had Donda, right? Yeah, just like, yo, how much money? Then he was like, yo, how much money you want from me? To pull up in a support? No, just like the runner brand, just like, yo.
Is that Donda what you're wearing right now? This Kodak Black right now. Kodak got my Donda piece but this this kodak it's my new sg chain i just got from kodak but yeah wow that's i got the donda piece i got that in the new chain make it himself yeah he had icebox make it wow yeah so like you can think about a guy like that he said something that was uncomfortable right remember and what they called him they called him they wrote him off just like they did your friend.
The media cooked them. But guess what? I feel like black people were so used to being cooked and during the cook that you just, you know what I'm saying? It's kind of like a part of the history of being cooked.
Put us on the grill, bitch. Let's see.
Let's cook. Let's see what happens when things heat up.
Yeah. Let's see what happens when things heat up.
Exactly. So you just overcome the pressure a little bit more.

You know what I'm saying?

A little bit more with damage.

You overcome the pressure because you're used to the pressure.

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

People say Kanye was crazy.

He take Lexapro.

He take this.

He own drugs.

He had problems with this.

He's going crazy about his kids.

It's like, no, we're raising emphasis on how our families are important.

It is. Kanye believe in marriage.
He believe in, you feel me, businesses or a pioneer culture. When I see you, like I have black friends now that have like children and their households are way different than the households of my friends that were black when I was a kid.
You know, it's a different. Not in poverty.
It's like, oh, wow. It's like more of like, yeah, it's crazy.
But you seen Trump just go through it a little bit. Assassination.
Court system. Everything.
Public news. Shame.
And that bronze. I'm surprised he didn't go full dark on that bronzer one day and just pull up.
Right? And just go crazy. He the president.
He can hit a button, wipe everyone out. He still, he handled it with class.
Just like all the black guys. He showed up.
He didn't run from it. He didn't take himself out.
He didn't crash out. He didn't give out.
He didn't give in. Well, he went to China, but maybe he just didn't, he liked being there better.
He got a new wife, man. He's happy.
He don't want to deal with it. Yeah.
He's married. At a certain point, I wouldn't want to deal with it.
Especially at a certain point, the media. I want to be happy.
The media, every time you turn around, it's almost like they're trying to make you crazy. They're trying to bring you down.
Why you never? We just seen the guys wrote 2.7 billion. We should be throwing pep rallies.
Yeah. We should be throwing freaking niggerism parties for Kanye West.
A guy that broke his jar in the fucking crabs. The guy that gave so many people opportunities.
Making beats. Producing turn rapper, to signing people and giving and giving and giving to just be constant, broke down.
Well, I think it's, I do find it interesting in entertainment that I feel like all the black artists should be represented by black agents and managers. That's one thing I feel like I don't see a lot.
But then also, what do I know about anything? If you got a black guy- Is that crazy to say that, you think? No, I feel like you should have the guy that's going to get you the best opportunity, that's going to rep the brand and make you feel comfortable. Because think about it- It doesn't have to be a black guy, huh? No, who matter who it is.
It could be a purple guy, pink guy. As long as he gives your well-being for what he go and get the deal.
Gang, gang. And most of the times, they're going to talk to a white guy.
Right. Who's working for the company that's going to give you the money.
So it's rather be a guy who look like him to broker the deal. Gang, gang.
And most of the times, they're going to talk to a white guy. Right.

Who's working for the company that's going to give you the money.

So it's rather be a guy

who look like him

that broker the deal.

It'd be probably easier

for him to talk to him.

Yeah.

Right or wrong?

Yeah, you're right.

Because who's the guy in the NFL

who owns the team?

White guy.

Exactly.

Every team, huh?

Every team.

Wow.

Exactly.

So who also owns the networks

that you're speaking on

and we're representing?

Different, some select people. You know what I'm saying? Select the people, but.
Select people, certain people. Certain people, but the majority, you know what I'm saying? In life, you did this do what's right to benefit you.
It's not. Right.
You got to get something that. Life, man, just do with the people that's going to be genuine and got your back, no matter what color it matter what color it is oh yeah man i talked to my friend stan the other day he's probably my closest black friend man and we have some real important conversations sometimes where you just feel like unconditional support from my friend no matter what yeah exactly um what happened do you i know you call you you call your your channel your uh ctesESPN yes is that who came up with that was it you yeah it was me because I feel like people wrote me off when I walked off the field like yo he crazy yeah a lot of people thought he was crazy and a lot of other people took their shirts off and left their jobs you ever see all those videos I didn't see it was a tricky video they had like 30 videos and listen I'm not a quitter now don't give up your fucking day job.
I built up a lot of wealth to fucking sit on when I left out. Yeah, when I left, I was getting into a Lamborghini, so that's a little different.
That's a little different leave out. Did you feel, but did you have an actual mental, did you have CT, you think? Did you ever feel it? I feel like CT is a trauma when the NFL just, you know, being a football player, you got to go through trauma.
But it's like, you know, you prepare your body to endure the trauma. Like, I lift weights, you know, physical therapy, mental therapy.
I manifest the goal. You know what I'm saying? So you do all the mental clarity things that you got to do to be welled off.
You know what I mean? Take therapy. Do all the well-being things you need to do to be a functional human right family a godly man spiritual so i feel like when people don't understand you or just like why would make them lead the field for millions of dollars that's what they try to say with football players but cte is a real thing that they determine when people pass away it's been a lot of players football players that died over that died over the course of years that they just write them off like they had CTE.
But we all have trauma. And CTE is a trauma that we all endure.
Like you said, how you grew up dealing with trauma. Life is a trauma.
Life is not perfect for no, but only person had it. Jesus walked the earth and he was the only one living life perfect, but his life was evolved for traumas they killed him in this earth as an example so like our lives good point man life is a lot of trauma life is all trauma bro sometimes your fucking back hurt your knee hurt you sore but that's what life's about our bodies is not gonna last forever your mind is not gonna last forever we all gotta do they to die so when you think about life in the aspect of the reality it's like yo i'm not crazy i just walked off to put myself in a better opportunity you just

may not understand it and just thought it was crazy because you putting yourself in my shoes

oh fuck no i've left work early many times you know what i'm saying

my job was on tv and now they're making on the news it just happened to be one of them days but

as a normal human we all had these days this is normal shit you gotta left your job you feel me

Thank you. on TV and now they're making on the news.
It just happened to be one of them days. But as a normal human, we all had these days.

This is normal shit.

You got left your job, you feel me?

We leave it early today, boy.

No bullshit.

So it's just like, man.

That's it, dude.

So you never got actually diagnosed, though, in CTE?

Nah, man.

People can't even die. I know CTE.

That's why I started CTSPN to talk to people about their traumas and how they deal with their traumas and cope with their traumas, overcoming adversity. Because I feel like being a great football player, being a great person in any form of life, you had to endure a lot of adversity.
Like, tell me some of the things that you went through as a kid, how you was raised. You told me one of your traumas.
You said, man, I always feel like a connection with a black person. You know what I'm saying? That was probably a trauma because that's something as a kid you may have to hold in.
I felt unseen. That's what I felt like.
I felt like nobody saw me. And so I think that that was something sometimes I could, when I would see how maybe black people were looked at or treated sometimes or some of just how they even treated themselves sometimes.
I would notice just little things sometimes. As I became an adult, I could relate to little things.
I'm not saying I could relate to any of their history or anything like that, but I'm just saying there were little things I could relate to. Like, man, now I can see why I gravitated towards some of these kids because I didn't feel seen.
I didn't feel like anybody saw me. And if they did see me, I felt like they thought I was fucking nothing.
And so there were little things like that sometimes that I don't make it. Maybe you could think about.
I don't know. I'm not trying to make a black culture about me, though.
No, but listen, but that's why I started CTSBN, so people could talk through their traumas, cope with their traumas, understand how to deal with it, because I had to learn how to deal with my traumas to put myself together and be able to be in the position I'm in.

Because that's a part of life.

Life's about how you overcome adversity, how you deal with adversity, and how you overcome

your situation.

I'm sure you've been through a lot in your life.

And that's why I started CTSPN to show high-level athletes and high-level people what are the

things that made them great?

What are the things they had to go through?

Because we all went through some.

You could have been raised with one parent. Maybe you just never seen your dad.
Maybe you were just artistic. You liked the computer.
You never played outside. So you just, you know, it could be- You may have been raised with a sick sibling.
You may have been raised- But everybody got some type of trauma they're facing. Maybe you're not tall enough and you can't pursue that dream you want.
It could be any little thing as a human that we're facing and we all facing some trauma. So that's why I started CTSB and so I could talk to people from their traumas.
What's your adversity? How you overcome it? What was the bridge point? Okay. How do you get through that? And people can see when they're watching the video of, okay, I'm talking to Theo Vaughn.
Okay. How the fuck Theo Vaughn overcame that situation? Like how did he get in that position? Because I feel like...
Because is it a weekly show, CTSPN? I feel like I need to do more weekly. I feel like I just be usually randomly talking to people about their traumas when I see...
You know what I mean? Because sometimes it's a lot to talk to people about their traumas because a lot of people hide their traumas. Oh, yeah.
You know what I mean? A lot of people not like that. Yeah, you become ashamed of you become ashamed of them but comes like of course but it's like we can't be ashamed of the uncomfortable because that's the only way we get better to dress the uncomfortable then the mental health facility the therapist you've been all that yeah because that's a part of recovering and getting the load of your better self so how long when you had to go to a mental health facility how long you had to go for just uh yeah, yeah.
Six weeks? Two weeks. Oh, that ain't too bad.
Yeah. Was it nice in there or not? Yeah.
It's in Colorado. Colorado Springs right there.
Psychological. You get to thinking.
Man, life's about looking at your life. Not the lodge.
It's called the lodge. The lodge.
That's where you went? Exactly. Yeah, it's nice there.
It's beautiful, bro. It's a whole facility.
Spa, gym, everything. You just find yourself.

Because it's like in life, if we could just save ourselves from the moment like your friend

before we just get to that point where it's like, damn.

You know what I mean?

Free Brian, bro.

Free Purvis, bro.

You know what I'm saying?

Bring him back out.

It's like most of the time, it's like, yo.

Look at that.

In life, you know what I learned, Theo?

In life, it's better to be happy than to be right. You know what I mean people get so much trauma in their life they get so much trauma like your friend has so much trauma from people treating them wrong he felt that it was the right thing to do probably just do the wrong thing oh I'm sure man somehow I'm going to show you to fucking see me and if it's going to have to be a crime it gonna have to be whatever it needs to be see me to get that love motherfucker you're gonna see me somehow right exactly i'm just saying but that's the attitude they take as a human you know i mean you take that on your own and it's like yo bro ask your friend out like was that really happiness right is that really happening sometimes though the pain somebody I believe is feeling ain't even their pain.
It's from another generation, man. So you have somebody out here expressing a pain that's just been stuck in their DNA because the DNA has to be even at the end of the line.
God made it all even. And so I believe that that's to find a way to even out because nature is a pretty even lady.
And that's what about the large and therapy and CTSPN. It's about understanding your trauma.
So realizing it. What is CT? Bring it up.
I just want to have a clear idea because I always say it all the time and I have no idea what it is. It's the new crazy.
It's like the new what you don't understand. But it's really like a head trauma that the NFL diagnosed that players die by that they can't find out till you die.
So they can't find out

till you die.

Chronic traumatic encephalopathy.

Yeah, but it's like,

yo, you already got that shit

if you hit in so much, right?

You a football player,

we banging every day.

So it's like...

It's a brain disease

that worsens over time

and can lead to dementia.

It's caused by repeated blows

to the head,

such as concussions

that damage brain tissue.

CTE can affect anyone who has experienced repetitive head trauma, including athletes, military veterans, and first responders. So do you have to get a diagnosis? Did you get a brain scan done? I mean, I got a lot of brain.
Dang. I feel like, yo, this is just like some of the, like, the, just.
Think about it. Think about.
You never felt anything crazy. Okay, sorry.
I'm sorry I'm interrupting you. Playing football, you got to understand, Vaughn, you're signing up to fucking bang out.
Right. Like, before you even, you playing the NFL, you're lifting weights.
When they're hitting you, they're hitting you to hurt you. Like, if they hit a guy like you, Theo Vaughn, if they knock you out on the field, they're going viral.
They're going on TV. They might get a job pay raise.
So it's preeminent for alpha males to just lift weights, to hit hard, to bang out. So you know before you sign up.
Right. If you sign me to the zoo, you know him, but you don't expect him to show up like an animal.
Of course. So it's like, okay, after you're done being an animal and you realize being the animal just was for a short time that is not realistic it's just a part of your life right it's a kid game that you made your life and you feel like you realize you get 30 something like yo i don't got that much fucking college on my knees these shit it's only a thin line of college right that got.
That's just, you ain't going to be able to run forever.

You know what I'm saying?

So you realize the real things of being an athlete.

The future.

You're just a number.

Was there an athlete that you saw?

Was there a receiver or an athlete that you saw one time that really, like,

brought it to your attention?

Wow, the physical, the long-term effects of the physicalness of this?

No, I feel like you always understand as a player,

is it going to be physical?

But I feel like it's up to you to play the game smart and put yourself in position. It's like your craft.
I'm a football player. I'm a receiver.
I know how to run the routes on you with the timing and the precision and make sure I don't get hit. Was there a season that you could have showed up for better in yourself? You just had too much going on in your own life.
I always showed up. You did? Yeah, that was my life.
My life is my football. if I don't play good, I don't get treated good.
Who do you miss catching passes from the most? Probably Big Ben. Really? Yeah, Big Ben.
Probably Tom Brady, too. I mean, I caught some passes.
I mean, I'm really grateful to be outplayed with some of the best quarterbacks in the world. You did get to.
That was a blessing. You know what I mean? That was a super blessing, man Being a good receiver depends on the quarterback.
You know, you're only as good as your quarterback. Man, I was blessed to play with none but championship quarterbacks, you know, Big Ben and Tom Brady.
It's kind of wild when you see guys that leave a team to go to a team that doesn't have a great quarterback just for the money. But I guess that's part of it, huh? Nah, it's a bad decision.
You gotta ask Tyree Hill. Yeah, huh? He tried to be a cheater, man.
He should have stayed. He fucking Patrick Mahomes going to the Super Bowl.
You in fucking Miami? Nah, you are in Miami. It's nice.
It's not nice in Miami. It's not.
You come to Miami after your career when you're ready for vacation. Miami's a vacation.
You don't want to be down there with all this party scene and BBLs everywhere. It's a distraction, man.
You need to play in Kansas City. It's cold, and you focus on football.
Damn. You know you're going to win.
What's BBLs mean? You want to know where the BBL is? I know. I hear the term all the time.
What is it? Bring it up. You never had no BBL? I don't know if I have or not.
I want to see what it is. Brazilian butt lift.
Oh, okay. And they go to Brazil to get it? Oh, Theo ain't got no ass.
You ain't got no chicks with no ass on, Theo. I don't know.
How much is it? You got to buy a new ass. It probably costs like 15 bands depending on what size you want.
Zoom in on that one on the right. Zoom in on that.
You like that ass, huh? Hey, bro. That's the ass of the day.
Hey, let's go, boy. That's the crack of the day.

That's the crack.

She put the crack in her booty crack.

That's Brazilian, huh?

That's wild.

That's a new ass.

You got to get your bitch a new ass when it been hit.

Oh, God.

That's crazy.

Fuck, I'll get her an SUV maybe if we're married or whatever.

But what about the, whoa, whoa, what's this thing going on?

That's funnel cake.

That's that funnel cake. That's that funnel cake.

That's that.

Right there.

Dead ass.

Literally, bro.

God, that's a Birmingham butt lift.

She got that bitch down in fucking Central Alabama.

That thing fucking lopsided, bro.

Dang. Double cheeky, huh? No cheeky.
You get that skinny VVL. It depends on what you arrange and how you want to open your hips.
I don't know. I don't want anything.
I don't want to. Somewhere it's like if it's too much, it kind of like I don't want to fuck something that's fucking back, you know? You don't want the Jell-O? I mean, I don't know if I don't want to Some women it's like If it's too much It kind of like I don't want to fuck something That's fucking back You know You don't want the Jell-O I mean I don't know If I can handle it man I mean I might swerve Hit that corner You know what I'm saying bro Oh shit Whoa What do you think about That new Jell-O song You think you like that You know what man At first I was like The bar Like the main bar is good But then I was like I don't know But then i was listening to it yesterday a couple extra times and i did i felt like you got one yeah i was it's just like i think it's yeah i liked it i liked it it's not like an old 90s song right it does a little bit and it makes you feel like anybody could like it almost all like somebody from yeah 15 to 50 yeah you could take that in shout out to j Jell-O athletes being rappers, man.
That's pretty cool. It is cool, man.
I really like his brother played for the Pelicans for a while. Yeah, his brother's ballers, man.
It's good to see all his brothers. It is cool to see three brothers get to do something together.
It's exciting, you know? And they had Zion Williamson down there. Yeah, that kid got bungees.
Yeah, that guy. They're so exciting to play.
But now that Zion's in, how are they in their last 10 games, Pelicans? Look at their last 10 games, man. Zion, carry these guys.
They're going to be as good as he want to be. He just misses a lot.
They got to take care of him a little better. Oh, yeah.
He got to take care of himself, too. I think so.
But then also, you know what? I'm just judging. I don't really know.
Nah, I feel like they got to take care of him too. And it's on him too.
It's like, yo, it's a collaboration. You know what I'm saying? A combination.
If the Pelican's going to be great, they got to go with Zion. If Zion go down, they go down.
That's a good point. How do you figure it out? It's a mutual duo.
Y'all got to bring your king to the puzzle, man. You can't have your guy.
You're right. I think I'm just a little angry at him as a fan.
No, no. He's a professional.
I feel like I expect more out of him, too, because he got so much ability. It's like, it's so much more in there.
Yes. And time goes fast.
Time ticks, man. You think it's not going to tick.
I feel like we just got to get him. They got to build him up.
What about when Le'Veon left? Was that weird when he left Pittsburgh? Man, I took the heart out of the soul of the team. Le'Veon Bell, one of my close friends, is like, man.
Why was his energy? He was like the team. People loved him, huh? Man, especially for Steelers is known for the running backs.
Oh, yeah. Jerome Bettis, they love him.
Le'Veon Bell is one of those guys. Willie Wheels Parker.
Willie Parker, breaking long runs. 70 yards.
He's a smoking guy. Bro, he didn't get enough acclaim, man.
He was a great player, man.

Welday Moore.

We had always good running backs.

Welday Moore out of Tulane, wasn't he?

No, where's Mo'El?

Yeah, Tulane, right from New Orleans.

Come on, let's go.

You know your history.

Let's go.

We had a lot of running backs.

Isaac Redman.

We had a lot of good guys, man.

The bus.

From the Steelers.

The bus.

I feel like.

Frank O'Harris.

Frank O'Harris.

Yeah, legendary guy.

A lot of history over there.

Jerry Olszczanski.

He was an offensive lineman, but I still don't know. It was just so sad because it's like, yo, Le'Veon, one of the guys we drafted, one of the guys you just, you know, he was his heart still a guy.
He was so special. And it was like, damn.
It was like money stopped us from our goals. It was like, damn, y'all can't come there.
You know, that's what I mean by both sides of people of culture, even the team. I feel like once the old linemen in the team went, they're like joking them online because they was feeling freaking trauma.
It's like, yo, we need him. But it's like how he feel like he don't need us.
So now they're like, yo, it's like, fuck you, fuck you. It's like, man, as people, we got to make the uncomfortable comfortable.
And looking back, it's like, yo, that could have maybe won this championship. Couple championships.
You know what I mean? Just if we had the courage to fucking go get Le'Veon, bro. But what about, do you think agents sometimes ruin the possibility for there to be a...
I feel like a lot of different people in your corner, you know, telling, you know, I mean, building you up on what they think you deserve and what's best for you. Yeah.
Not seeing the bigger picture and I feel like, you know, that's a part of life. Yeah.
You know, sometimes in life, if you don't act on the opportunity, you could miss it, thinking it was positive for you and maybe it wasn't. And it's like, you know, life goes on no matter who you is.
So it was like, yeah, I don't take my life for granted, man. I just, in that moment with Le'Veon, I just wish we could have.
Because it would have been awesome if it did happen. It was like, what could have? It's like, what could have? We don't want to never be living in that realm of what we could have done when we had every opportunity to do it.
You know what I mean? That was some special moments, man. Who you got in the Super Bowl, man? Who you got in the Super Bowl Super Bowl? Gotta go to Kansas City.
It was like, how you go against Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey for a 3P? Yeah, I think also... It's like, I want to see it now because now we're seeing another level of greatness and another level of, like, specialness.
Shout out to Andy Reid for fucking just knowing how to do it. It's true, huh? Hell yeah.
Dude, I saw... but you had the tweet the other day was so good.
He looked like Darlene from fucking Roseanne, bro. That shit was.
That shit was hysterical. That's just funny.
It was hysterical, yeah. Bro, we got the best X app, bro.
I only like my X app and my Xbox. Because you can say what you want.
X app and Xbox. Yeah.
And ex-girlfriend. Sometimes.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, sometimes.

But this is so true.

Remember when my homies played Darlene on Rose?

Nah, he definitely, that's his twin right there.

That's not his face or no?

You're too cold, man.

I'm like Jacob and Assassin.

Do you just, does somebody, do you also have somebody else writing stuff for you or is

just you?

Yeah, it's a combination.

Me and my guy, Jacob.

Jacob is an asshole. Oh, that I met here? Yeah, Jacob.
It's me and him coming out. Wow, he's fucking, that's savvy, bro.
Yeah, he's fucking the savage. He's a savage.
That's savvy, dude. Yeah.
Are there some players that you're still tight with? And is there a player? Of course. Yeah? Yeah, man.
I got a lot of great players. Le'Veon Bell, one of my closest friends still.
He came with me on the Trump campaign. Mike Wallace, one of my close friends under the radar.
Played with me for a long time. Plexico Barrett is one of my long time.
OGs played with me in 2013. You know what I mean? Helped me like, yo, man, move your split.
Little tip is he showed me. We're just working the outside receiver, how to play with the split so people not understanding the routes and knowing what I was doing so I could just run different routes from different angles so they wouldn't see it just little little things little things that helped me be great you know what I mean uh Deion Sanders was always a pioneer in my corner you know when I walked even when I came back to play with Tom Brady just the whole process in that you know Tom Brady was always a prime factor even though I joked him and shit you know being in the turner he always was one of my friends because he's a pretty stand-up guy all the way stand up you know i mean you always remember those people in the darkest time who was there for you you know i'm saying who wrote for you you know i mean i knew when i went to the raiders went to the patriots with him had a star stint i think he got to know like damn he'd be really a smart working hard guy with you-hard guy with, you know what I mean, a lot of energy and to go, you know, where I'm in the guy.
Because, you know, coming to football teams, you're going to learn a lot by a guy. One, is he in shape? Could he understand? Could he know what to do? You know what I mean? I feel like I built that camaraderie with just showing him for that week of work, just like, damn.
Yeah. You know what I mean? He brought me back.
I got that year off. He won the Super Bowl.
That's heavy bowl that's heavy you know i mean that's big you know i mean it was it was just amazing to know that we could do like we could go plan something that we set out to do and do it and do it do you um do you think belichick is as good without brady or it's just in the end it's all just a matter of pieces no one is in the nfl is without a quarterback right and Tom Brady's don't come around you know what I'm saying you never find a guy who just got overlooked right and he just fucking turns Superman and just fucking wipe your ass out for 20 plus years you know what I'm saying because not a lot of people get that trauma you know what I'm saying like Tom Brady had trauma like right something inside of him or inside of his father, grandparent, and his DNA. Yeah, something inside of his heart that was like, something in his balls.
Wanted to cook. That was fucking ready to go and not fucking off the, like some shit you never see again.
Even him as an analyst, I'm loving him as an analyst because he gives you different insights that you never would have heard. He have heard he said the other day in one of the games he said that oh I usually looked at how far I had to get and I averaged it usually about a second per yard he said when he was like when the clock was really low or something whatever that fucking live a dream football like yeah you could tell it's like Drew Brees is the same way that fucking Tom Brady is a one on one trust meone.
Trust me. Drew Brees is the same.
I stayed at his fucking house. That kid's 42 years old, fucking breath-alized on the fucking treadmill the day after the game and the fucking treadmill on incline.
He got on a fucking knee sock, his fucking fucking hat. We won the Super Bowl.
They fucking got on, got a fucking MCL the whole game. He can't even wear it.
Yo, he wearing jeans to practice. He practiced in their fucking denim jeans.
Damn. With a knee brace.
And he like, yo, one more route. Fucking, he's always a one more guy.
He's never. One more.
Yo, this is right here for the Super Bowl. Wow.
Now, he's always just the most prepared, bro. I never seen a guy live and sleep fucking winning football games.
Like, fucking he lose a game, that fucking guy, like he lost a relative. Like someone died.
Like he lost one of his legs. Yeah, like even if you seen him, it's like you don't want to see Tom at that loss.
Yeah. It's like, yo, he's fucking dropping even more.
Like, fucking hit the guys even more. It's like some shit you want to be.
It's like some Navy SEAL shit. Right.
That much energy. That much affection.
It's like, yo, let's go out and fucking do it. Towards it.
Describe, I wanted you to get some of these worst teams. I'm going to give you a name of a team.
You just give me a word or two to describe them. Ravens.
Aggressive. Browns.
Toilet bowl. You know how to take the Cleveland.
How many times you take the Cleveland Browns to the Super Bowl? How many times? You understand that bar? Y'all better dig Jim Brown up. I'm talking about taking a shit.
Oh, damn. The Cleveland Browns to the Super Bowl.
That's the toilet. Because that's the only Super Bowl they're going to.
The toilet. You go to the Browns, yeah, you know where you going.
So people know when they go in there, it's done, huh? Same shit, different toilet. You know what I'm saying? It's just a foul of shit.
Oh, come on, bro. What about the Bengals? The Bengals? The Bengals, I think, are Patman Jones.
Raw player, great player, but some way they're going to fuck it up. Just a fuck up.
Just a knucklehead. You feel me? Some way to Cincinnati always fuck it up.
It's like Joe Burrow just look like Ellen.

But I like Chase Daniels.

Yeah, you like Chase Daniels?

Yeah, he is.

He's a backup quarterback, right?

He's the running back.

Oh, he is?

Chase Daniels?

David.

What's his name?

Chase.

He's the number one receiver.

I don't know how to know his name, but his name Chase.

He's a fucking elite.

I think he was the triple crown of the league.

You're talking about Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase.
Jamar fucking they are yeah Jamar being chased that's for sure yeah um I love Burrow he had a great season nah he did he played like a champion though he did good at this for like but still the game is you gotta get nah Joe Burrow played. What about the Jets now? The Jets is the Jets.
It's like just the side chick in New York, you know? Oh, damn. You know? No, I feel like all New York teams right now is just...
It's hectic. Yeah, it's Milwaukee right now.
It's hectic over there. What's a little bit of news that's going on, man? We got any news stories? Yeah, Trump said mlk file yeah that's why i told you he's gonna talk about that but see i believe that that's the here's what i believe in that i believe the cia or the fbi or whatever has gone through probably marked stuff in there to make mlk look bad right of course they changed the narrative they want to bring him down because here's what happens is they start to first they give you leaders then they start to release information that brings those leaders down and when they do that they kill a culture they're killing a culture right of course so now all the people that had him as like a as a role model and um and he may have had a guy and a high level guy he may have had a unique life that was filled with different things but it didn't make him maybe a bad guy so it just might it just might it just take away that's what i'm saying like you want to take away your culture that's what america and being based on for black culture and white culture too man it happens now for white culture too i think it happened for all humans that's what we got to preeminate it just mostly for the blacks the black superheroes oh yeah i mean it's definitely happened more to blacks But now you're seeing where they're going and taking down like they're really the media can go and take black leaders down.
Right. I mean, that's all it is.
It's a media takedown. It always is.
That's all it has been. What else we got? The only person in the world after with a functioning pig organ is thriving after a record two months.
Oh, damn. Let's pull that up, man.
Have you had any? They got a pig organ they put in somebody. This, this, the only person in the world with a functioning.
Black person? Damn. Ooh, damn.
Is it? An Alabama woman passed a major milestone Saturday to become the longest living recipient of a pig organ transplant. Healthy and full of energy with her new kidney.
61 days and counting man that's that's kind of messed up man i feel like hiding a piece of hiding pork inside of a black person seems fucked up and fucking alabama come on come on man that's insider trading bro you can't that's fucking they just turned it to a pig i mean it's just like that's just bad walking business bro oh but a lot of people love bake you can't put a piece of fucking bacon inside of somebody's body why the fuck would she get that that's all they had that's a good point man see that's the kind of shit that bike people been going through like hey we ain't got a regular heart yeah like some side shit like we'll put this fucking side heart in you yeah they can't do them like that they gotta stop doing us like that god damn bro at least we could get a regular one they can't got no regular ones out there yeah at least definitely yeah you can't that's wow yeah even if it how fucking what's the source of you living like in a pig organ even give her one with the beats off a little bit that's fine you know put that remix in her but don't give her a pig heart. Even give her one with the beets off a little bit.
That's fine. You know, put that remix in her.

But don't give her a pig heart.

Scientists are genetically altering pigs.

So their organs are more human-like to address a severe shortage of transplantable human organs.

Well, that's interesting.

What else, man?

What else have we covered?

I'm trying to think of things that I wanted to cover today, man.

Tiger King star Joe Exotic claims eight prison guards beat him up after one tried to force him to give oral sex an interview with mackie that's tiger king y'all mess with him this guy remember oh shit they trying to take tiger king out they trying to get him in jail but he in there slurping for show bro he been in there um but yeah that's one thing I think is if they... I don't know what else I think, man.
My brain's tired. Yours get tired sometimes? Nah, I keep going.
How much pot do you smoke today, you think? That's my first two joints. Damn.
Yeah, I can't. Black people are so much better at getting high, I think, man.
Because you got a lot of trauma. It just helps you relax.
Fuck, dude, I got high. I couldn't fucking walk four or five feet without making sure everybody's okay.
But obviously, black guys will play a whole basketball game on being high. Yeah, you got high testosterone ready to go.
I don't know. It was always a beyond blew my mind.
You just got to slam your if you if you want to be black, just slam your dick in the door. It's going to swell up.
And then you black. You know, then your energy going to go up.
You really? I don't know, bro. Bro, I can't take any more medical.
I can't take any more suggestions from you today, bro. You're going to have me with a sore dick yelling the N word out on the interstate.
We're going viral. Yeah, we're going viral.
It's a black party, bro. Oh, man.
I appreciate you coming, AB, man. Thanks for having me, man.
It was an honor, man, to just sit down, talk about some huge stuff, even if it was uncomfortable, just make the normalcy of just breaking bread, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I'm intrigued.
What do you kind of see, like, what things you want to do in the coming future? Because it's like, I feel like at first people thought you was kind of crazy. And then now people are, like, thinking, well, you know what? That's all judgment.
What do you want to do? What's some things you, like, do you feel like you want to achieve, you know? I just want to, you know, serve my purpose in living, you know, giving out light, encouraging people, and, you know, bridging the gap. You know, some of the stuff we've been doing on X, bringing a comedy between like bridging the gap of people and just opening people's minds of, you know, experiencing, being and making people aware of what the traumas they face, you know, just being a normal person, not even being a celebrity or any type of color, just people as humans.
Yeah. You know what I mean? Going through traumas and overcoming and just bridging the gap or just raising awareness with leaders.
What's one of your biggest regrets you've had over the years, if you have one? Shit. My biggest regret probably was just, like, not throwing a wedding for myself.
You know, I feel like so many people fuck me over and do so much bad parties. I might as well just go to the altar with myself and celebrate myself.
That much, huh? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because I feel like life is about living. And I feel like you got to love yourself.
And being a black person, you experience so much trauma with someone, people writing you down, changing the narrative, character bringing you down. So it's like you got to keep enough sanity and not enough, you know what I mean, enthusiasm to just be encouraged and have the confidence because not everybody can overcome with people writing them off, killing their character, bringing them down, making them feel a certain way.
It takes a strong individual to be able to, you know, overcome that. So I feel like just continue to raise an awareness, talking to people like yourself, high-level people that, you know, bridging the gap, which is raising conversation that inspire the youth and the world, you know, just spreading the light.
You know, I think I accomplished a lot of things in my life in a short time, and I feel like now it's just being that inspiration as a human. The highest thing you could do is inspire.
So just inspire people, raising conversations, inspiring people, bringing smiles, bringing people together. You do that.
I mean, definitely. Yeah.
I think you really seem like an interesting guy. I'm glad that I got to get to chat with you.
And I do think, too, they should auction off that N-word once in a while, man. Maybe we have that little auction, man.
Think about it. Maybe we had a nigga awards and then just maybe change the name where I know you hate the word, but it's like, it's a part of history.
The word only get, yo, we need to create a new dictionary. we'll sit in the back this time.
If y'all do have it, how about that? you got to be in the front line. That's going to cause a lot of controversy, dude.
I ain't going to build it up. We're going to throw out the teachers, get the commercials.
We're going to make sure. We're going to free Brian Purvis, let him give one out.
Yeah. We're going to talk to Brian Purvis on the CTSPN and talk about some of his traumas.
What did he learn and where he had in his life now. And why he went to black culture to feel comfortable too.
Because I think that's an interesting thing. I feel like that's what embracing it.
Probably how he grew up made him feel like he was one of the guys. Because imagine when people, not your own people, when your own people treat you like shit, you feel like black people.
Cause all I people know is to be like treated like shit. So it was like, yo, we're going to treat you like shit.
So it was like, until you break the culture of shit and making people understand, it's okay to be of the not normal, but still have that love to still build them in the right way. So you don't turn the right wrong way or do the wrong thing.
You know, we got to save people. And if they had like a thing, say if like, you know, tonight, bro, right? 9 30 PM.
Macaulay Culkin is doing an N word, bro. That's comedy.
From home alone. You telling me how many people would pay to stream that? Man, they going to love that.
And then you give the money to. We donate to the organizations, the black communities.
To black organizations. Exactly.
We make it beneficial, man. We know everything we do with positive intent to bring people together.
We're going to get a lot of hate for even thinking about that, I think. But I could.
I feel like we can't worry about the hate. I feel like in life.
Okay, you're right. Because sometimes the hate come, man.
After the hate come rewards. Yeah.
After the hate, 2.7 billion. Right.
what i'm saying after the hate come to love i feel like if you're not getting hate then you're not raising the comfort you got to be uncomfortable right you got you're right you have to be uncomfortable to get comfortable right this is how you feel uncomfortable about it is that we got to find the resource to make you comfortable and we found the resource okay let's do it like this we're gonna give back to the black communities so now we're not just saying this and the talk are ready to be funny we got a real resource behind this and we bringing people together oh yeah because this is a natural thing it's not like when people haven't said there's a little kids I told you Tom Brady's son's been to like yo you think about the word I had the Tom's they had to explain them in the word I was like yo man I think it's not in the 50s what people use is that it's not slaves no more you know what I'm saying it's like it's the normacy of black families being rich and living upon the same culture of generational wealth yeah and building that up and seeing what the future that's like in the universe you know exactly I mean I'm just a witness I'm just a bystander in all of that um but yeah I, I think that would be really interesting to see if that was a way to raise some money. But that also might be really crazy.
I think we're talking at the X-Hap right now. We was thinking maybe like the Cracker Olympics, but we maybe could call it the ABC Olympics.
ABC and the C's for Cracker? Yeah. Yeah.
You know what I mean? That way it's not like a, that's why everybody can feel comfortable because we're not trying to promote comfortability. And you, dude, a lot of good crackers ain't getting it.
They, they want, it's, you want to be, everybody likes a little bit of shine, you know? Everybody deserves shine. We all humans.
We deserve shine. No matter who you are in the face of, you deserve time.
Yeah.

All plants, bro.

Everybody's working hard towards something, man.

All plants, bro.

We look at the sun, man.

Which we got.

Yeah, we got another.

Anything else you want to talk about, A.B.?

The Elon Trump fart.

The Elon Trump fart coin.

The ETF 500.

Elon Trump fart coin.

I wish I could pump out a fart right now.

Before I'm on half a belly.

But yeah, this is the coin.

It's a Bitcoin.

What's your thoughts on crypto?

So, I'll a safe, bro. I get scared about my money.
Oh, wait. I did get like one, probably one 60th of a Bitcoin or something.
How much? 1 40th of a Bitcoin.

How much is that?

I think maybe 3,500.

I got a little put away.

Nothing crazy.

Jeez up.

Might be 4,000.

So check out the Elon Musk fart coin, man. So it's Elon Musk fart coin,

Elon Trump fart coin.

Which one is it?

Elon Trump fart coin.

So check out the Elon Trump fart coin.

And what is that?

It's a coin that's out on. It's one of the best coins that I don't crypto.
Oh, really? Yeah, it's going up. It's heating up right now.
Let's see that. Elon Trump fart 500.
Pull that up. Elon Trump fart 500.
Yeah. That shit looking down like a fuck.
Do it on a long day. That's just 24 hours.
Give me a damn month. Yeah, a long day should be in green ski there you go i go to greens so elon trump coin 500 elon trump fart oh yeah i was gonna fart with it i thought he was gonna bust some ass no that's all right man i don't think we need it let's don't bridge the gap that much bro etf uh etf 500 okay trump fart 500 coin crypto is going up gang gang you I trade a lot, man.
I try to get into it. It's a lot of money in the digital aspect.
Yeah. No, I agree.
It's a huge part of the culture now, too. It's all different things that happen in financial cultures.
I'm curious to see what the whole future of crypto and that whole world looks like. Meme coins and everything.
It's interesting. AB, thank you, man.
I really appreciate your time. My honor, man.
Thanks for having a conversation, chatting with me. Yeah.
And for just all the tweeting and stuff, it's a lot of entertainment. So thank you for that.
It takes a lot of time to do that. People don't think about that.
It's a lot of time. So thank you for the commitment.
And best of luck to you, man. Thank you, brother.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Now I'm just floating on the breeze

And I feel I'm falling like these leaves

I must be cornerstone

Oh, but when I reach that ground

I'll share this peace of mind

I found I can feel it in my bones

But it's gonna take a little bit