E548 MrBeast

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Speaker 1 Today's guest is one of the biggest content creators in the world.

Speaker 1 He's an entrepreneur, a YouTube guru, and he has created more energy and excitement into the world of giving back than possibly anyone.

Speaker 1 He has a new show called Beast Games, where a record-breaking 1,000 people compete for the largest prize in entertainment history, $5 million.

Speaker 1 Grateful to finally catch up with the one and only Mr.

Speaker 2 Beast.

Speaker 2 So is it already started? We go on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll start right now, man. Let's do it.
Mr. Beast, Jimmy, nice to see you today.
Likewise. bro, that's awesome, man.
So, Beast Games, that's the show.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So, before this, we were showing on episode one of a show I have coming out December 19th.
What did you think of it? We watched it and then he started talking. His team was like, hit the camera.

Speaker 2 It was like, wait, wait, wait. Now I'm dying to know.
What'd you think?

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought a lot of things, man. First of all, I thought that you are obviously you're this wizard of Oz, Willy Wonka, kind of

Speaker 1 William Wallace of finances type of

Speaker 1 energy going on. Okay.
You know, there's there's a lot of that.

Speaker 2 A lot.

Speaker 1 Like, I've never seen a show where every,

Speaker 1 I mean, couple minutes, there's a, there's like another

Speaker 1 twist of possibility, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I kind of realized how many game shows are missing so many little elements in there where they could manipulate the situation more or create more of an environment for like

Speaker 1 competitors in the game to make choices that would affect them and others, you know?

Speaker 2 Yeah, and like basically having layers and stuff like that. But the big thing is no one's ever set up like that many cameras before because it's a logistical nightmare.

Speaker 2 So it's hard to do these kinds of things normally unscripted because like, you know, we, we had unfathomable amounts of footage, like over 100 years of footage from that episode.

Speaker 1 100 years of footage?

Speaker 2 Yeah, because I mean, we had to have over 100 people work on it and post. So it's like.
to be able to do something at that scale, even just like to set up the cameras and edit and everything is,

Speaker 2 I mean, no one's ever done it before.

Speaker 1 It's diabolical almost. Yeah, you know.
Yeah, you said there's a lot of world records that were broken in the, in the shooting of

Speaker 1 this

Speaker 1 series.

Speaker 2 Yeah, 40 Guinness World Records.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, we have like so many plaques now that we have up on our wall.
I'm basically making a wall out of Guinness plaques just from the show.

Speaker 1 What are some of the records you guys broke?

Speaker 2 Most contestants ever in a show, largest cash prize in a show. Most cameras recording at once in a show.

Speaker 2 Most people,

Speaker 2 which you saw. Yeah.

Speaker 2 and a show like most money given away in the first episode of a show just like stuff like that yeah oh that's the most people probably since 9-11 I would think oh my gosh we might have to take that out

Speaker 1 yeah and that I shouldn't have said that I'll say something else

Speaker 1 yeah I haven't seen that many people uh

Speaker 1 at the same time wait why was there a cut before you say what you're saying right now huh oh there's just we needed something

Speaker 1 you had to use the bathroom yeah yeah yeah just had to use the yeah I had already I'd already soiled the conversation oh that's the most people at once that I'd seen since,

Speaker 1 oh, since I was in the parking lot of a widespread panic concert, you know, but that was LSD.

Speaker 1 That kind of works a little.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think that's actually, honestly, you should keep the first one.

Speaker 2 There we go, dude.

Speaker 1 You said it, I mean, that's a great point. You make the choices, man.
Yeah. Do you feel like this wizard? Like, because

Speaker 1 as I'm watching, I'm like, man, there's so many things. I'm like, where does the motivation come from? Is it to like, do you get so much joy out of like having the manipulation of the situation?

Speaker 1 Is it giving away the money? Is it, cause there's so many moments in there where I'm like watching people's feelings change. Like, what is it for you that like, or have you been able to figure out?

Speaker 1 Because you've done so many of these types of competitions and opportunities for people, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, this, the thing is, you. I feel like I am motivated by a lot of things.

Speaker 2 And these kinds of game shows, it's fun to like create environments that have never been created for and just like, almost just see kind of what people do like a lot of that is just like mass behavioral psychology like if you offer someone money to eliminate other people how much money would it take you know um so it's kind of a little bit of that but it's also i just like making great content and like i like do you know making things you can't find anywhere else because it's just fun to like see how the world reacts to it yeah and so in this instance or in a lot of what we do like we one time we put we just put a big circle on the ground we put a hundred people in it and we just were like whoever leaves last gets half a million dollars and then it's just like, how long does it take?

Speaker 2 Who's gonna leave? Um, like, those are the kinds of things I like personally and just curious on, like, what the fuck's gonna happen, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah, what's like one thing you've learned then about people's psychology? Have you learned, or does it change a lot?

Speaker 1 Like, are you learned, like, are there some general rules you've learned that people will like behave around money or that sort of thing?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, that's an interesting question. That's, I honestly, I feel like people

Speaker 2 are

Speaker 2 a lot nicer than you would think. Like they're not as

Speaker 2 they don't tend. And maybe it's because when we do it, they know the video is going to be seen by 100 million people.
So they're thinking of their personal image.

Speaker 2 But a lot of times I have given people the opportunity to like screw other people over for some money. And usually they don't take it or they like.

Speaker 2 push like it requires way more money than you would think, you know, like someone who'd theoretically be making $30,000 a year and you would offer them 10 grand, but it means this other person gets eliminated or gets punished in the challenge.

Speaker 2 And a lot of times, like, they'll say no, you know, and I'm like, whoa, that's not an easy decision to make. Like, there's some integrity here, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you mentioned that we were taping that you were surprised by some people's integrity.

Speaker 2 Exactly, especially during this show, like, I sometimes throw large copious sums of money to eliminate other people to like offer it to certain people, and they say no.

Speaker 2 And I was always just like, What the fuck? Wow, this is crazy.

Speaker 1 Is there one age group, or gender group, or any demographic you can give me on who it seems like after doing a lot of challenges where you gotta see some integrity.

Speaker 2 No, it's pretty this is 10 episodes. If we watched it all you would see 10 episodes of that? Yeah, you would see that it's like pretty widespread across the board.
I mean maybe

Speaker 1 the one. I don't think a senior citizen could some seniors can't make it through that.

Speaker 2 You saw that one 70 year old and she passed, which is she passed away? No, passed the challenge. Oh God.
I hope she doesn't pass away before the show airs.

Speaker 2 That would be bad.

Speaker 2 No, I don't think people, some seniors, I don't know if I i would let one of my grandparents watch this yeah just the levels of yeah your heart beating there's a lot yeah yeah that's what i was going for what what i really wanted is like in my youtube videos sometimes people say they they don't have enough emotion or they lack the storytelling or whatever and part of it is like it's just youtube when you go to like a stream platform like amazon prime video or netflix you're like sitting down to watch something usually for like hours and you're to watch like this longer story and show.

Speaker 2 But when you go to YouTube, more than likely, like, you know, you're going there for a a quicker hit.

Speaker 2 You're not sitting down expecting to watch a 10-episode series, like, you're just clicking on videos and watching. So, content put up on YouTube is just different.

Speaker 2 It's like, you know, series don't do as well.

Speaker 2 And you, you know, and so it's much easier to build characters and feel emotion over these 10 episodes, six hours of content than it is in a 20-minute video because you have like 10 minutes to build them up, but then you got to wind the story down because the video is going to end in 10 minutes.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? So, my big thing here was like, I really wanted you to feel something.

Speaker 2 And I wanted to like flex those muscles and like actually build characters and like give emotion and things like that, you know, like when we were watching that, even though I've already seen it like a hundred times already, I could feel my heart pounding.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, or it might have been the Celsius I was drinking.
I don't know, but like I really could feel the emotion. That's what I want.

Speaker 2 Like when people watch the show, I want them to have very intense feelings.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, I mean, I definitely did, man.

Speaker 1 And the interesting thing to me, too, is like a lot of times with game shows and it's the contestants that you start to get to know, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 But with this, it's not the contestants like well you will later on but because there's a thousand of them right first i gotta you know lay down the hammer axe you know 900 of them or whatever and then we can build them up ah i see and i definitely learned why no one ever uh does stuff with a thousand because that's the most contestants ever it's it's a lot to like just everything is you know a thousand hotel rooms a night you know what i mean if the hotel room is $200.

Speaker 2 It's $200,000 a night in just hotel rooms and you're feeding them and even like every little thing is so expensive when you times it by a thousand.

Speaker 2 And then like to record a thousand people, you need a thousand cameras. Just to buy a thousand cameras is a bitch.

Speaker 2 And then to hook all the cameras up to the server, we need like 56 miles of cable to run it over there. And then you need like fucking 250 camera people to check in on them.

Speaker 2 And so it's like, I know why people don't do reality shows at this scale because it's so fucking expensive.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, what was the total budget of this show?

Speaker 2 Can you, can I want to tell you, but can you just believe it so it doesn't make it in? For sure.

Speaker 1 Can we believe it in some artistic way so it at least looks exciting?

Speaker 2 No, just be like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 Or do this?

Speaker 2 Sure, put that over my mouth. It was, we spent

Speaker 1 dollars. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I hope my mom's all right.

Speaker 2 I didn't mean it. Don't cancel me.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just trying to give some different.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to give some different reactions.

Speaker 2 Put that in the intro.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God, bro.

Speaker 2 You spent that much on this yeah because it gets crazier like that first one we we built a thousand towers and those are real towers that have actual hydraulic press doors that are have to be safety proof with giant foam and crash pad at the bottom with the light system right because we're turning them red and green and then we had to build custom software to connect it all where you press a button and the lights change and then we had to rig like i told you a thousand cameras in there to a giant control center like just that first episode alone was i mean crazy man and do you have to take it all down at the end yeah yeah i didn't i don't own that building yeah because the problem is like we needed six massive hangers so like we basically in canada there's like these six giant airport hangers and we were just like hey can we use those and converted them all to these big sets and then right outside is a field and that's where we built that city which was awesome so i i have in this field at one point i have like 800 people working over here just building a city in the middle of a field and i've got like 600 construction people in these six hangers just building these other sets and then i have all these i mean at some points we had like over 2 000 people on set just in this town in canada so it was it was great and were you employing just a lot of locals i mean just you were just you would set up you would put out the employment opportunities in advance uh yeah we we worked with uh two different unions and then yeah we hired a bunch of people locally and and things like that so yeah it created a lot of jobs locally there and where does your joy come from like because you give away you've given away a lot of money right and you give away a lot of joy while i'm watching like there's something also i like there's moments in there as i'm watching i'm like oh what would i do in that instance right that comes into my head and then you see the reactions if somebody screws somebody over and you see the reaction if somebody is gets screwed over and you kind of think like okay well what feeling would i want to have you know and and then like in the moment you're like oh yeah i would definitely take the money but then right now looking back when i start to even think about some of those moments i'd be like man it must have been really tough to leave and have those people feel and so maybe i wouldn't have right it's just it's interesting just as a viewer all the little moments that i kind of navigate and then kind of of learn about myself but what do you get like like you give away so much money do you feel like you're like making up for something in a past life or like is there something that like um you didn't grow up with a lot of money you know no and so did was it do you like when you think back on little moments like did you see somebody give some money once and it made you feel excited or like are you able to connect any of those dots as you get a little bit older and have some more breadth of time you know that's where i i should come up with this you know

Speaker 2 heart heart-throbbing story of like i just want to you know uh help people because i couldn't when i was younger or whatever but the honest truth is like i know how to make content go viral we're really good at making good content and i just believe a world where i help people is just more fun than a world there where i don't and that's kind of really it i just i've noticed where you know videos where we do help people or give away money i tend to just be a little happier enjoy it a little bit more and so i just lean more that way um that's cool that yeah i mean that's the truth i mean i could I could,

Speaker 2 one time for fun, because like everyone has these like PR publicists and PR people, I just talked to one. I was like, huh, what advice would you have for me?

Speaker 2 And they're like, you need to come up with a better story and why you help people. And I was like, well, what I, because this is what I usually say.

Speaker 2 It's like, well, the truth is it just is slightly more fun than what I don't. And they're like, no, you need to come up with a better one.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, like you were saying, like, you know, say like you helped a homeless person. It brought you immense joy and all this stuff.
And I was just like, yeah, that feels kind of fake. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 sometimes that's just the truth. It is.
And it's a very simple truth. Yeah, I like helping somebody out.

Speaker 2 It's just more fun than if I don't. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, it's scary to think that, though. Like recently, I was giving some money to some people that had been suffered from a storm, right?

Speaker 1 From some flooding. And,

Speaker 1 but, and, and I'm not saying that to make myself look exciting or anything, but it was nothing like this. And if they see that and then hear what I get, they're like, oh, this is the guy.
This guy's.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, this is just our reality show. But yeah, in general, I don't know if you've watched any of our videos, but we built 100 wells in Africa.

Speaker 1 We oh, yeah, I know. You helped the, yeah, you guys have given water stuff.
You've taken plastics out of the ocean. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But well, the wells stuff, that one was interesting or really eye-opening for me because we were one of them, like, we went like four hours into the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 2 And you're like, you know, in places where these people don't have the internet, like they're, I mean, really intense poverty. And it's like, it's pretty eye-opening.

Speaker 2 I would recommend if anyone ever has an opportunity to like just work on a project or do something in places like that it's like crazy to think that we're on the same planet you know what i mean and yeah who like don't even have access to clean water and have to walk an hour every morning to go to a river to get water but then you look upstream and there's literally cows shitting in that same water that they're you know drinking out of because that's like that's the world they live in and like we have anyways i don't know it just yeah no look no i think putting things in a perspective right changes things for people exactly were you was did you have to like kind of achieve a certain amount of finances before you were able to start giving away finances kind of no i've always like my first brand deal was ten thousand dollars and i just walked outside and gave it to a homeless person wow so i've just always done it because it's just like you know if i um do this then hopefully this video makes fifteen thousand dollars and then i'll give away fifteen thousand dollars right and then hopefully that video makes twenty thousand dollars and i'll give away twenty and so i just had that idea of where i was like what if i just give away the money and then it makes more money and i give that away and then i've just kind of been doing that for like eight years and now you're at $5 million, which is the largest amount that has ever been given away in a game show.

Speaker 2 Or in a reality show, in any show, really. No one's ever given away.
I think Squid Game was the most of 4,560,000.

Speaker 1 Wow. And did you want to beat that kind of?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. That's why the number is 5 million.

Speaker 2 But we also gave away like. you know, another 15 plus million on top of that just throughout the show.

Speaker 1 No, I love it because you hear so many companies that, companies that just like, it's about their bottom. And it's like, this is like the opposite of that.

Speaker 1 It's like, let's do something good and let's make a bunch of money, but then let's let's give it away yeah it's like the opposite of like all the other treacherous type of um

Speaker 2 uh capitalism that you hear about you know yeah i mean i it's interesting because now that i've done like a streaming show or whatever and uh it's like a lot of these shows their cash prize is like 250 000 500 000 it's like i wonder why they don't give away more you know what i mean like you'll watch this whole you know 10 episode show just to see who wins 250k and it's like the first three minutes of our show we gave away a million dollars you know yeah you're like yeah this is yeah so it'll be interesting i'm curious to see how people react to it because i just but anyways we're gonna make other

Speaker 1 yeah dude we had a dude he would give you 10 bucks to look at his butt right wait what yeah when i was a you know when i was younger than i am now for sure he was a child i don't want to say a child but you just pretend i was a child right because i was and this guy would give you 10 bucks to look at his butt right not up close far away you know but it like,

Speaker 1 so yeah, that guy could have given us a lot more.

Speaker 2 Do you need to file a police report? I have no idea, dude.

Speaker 1 But I'm just saying, it's like everybody has a game show and you're like, yeah, people, these, these prizes are cheap, you know? That's what it was kind of what I was getting at.

Speaker 2 Anyway, we can take that for you. You were on a game show and a guy gave you $10 to look at his butt.

Speaker 1 We had a dude in our area, I'll be honest with you. He'd give you $10.
He'd walk off a little bit. He kind of spread his butt a little bit.
And you had to kind of go like that at him.

Speaker 1 And you got the money, you know?

Speaker 1 Okay. So, but it wasn't it wasn't close up and it wasn't even super invasive.
It was like, you know, I get it's uh how old were you at the time?

Speaker 1 I was old enough to be like, hey, this guy's kind of a crazy guy, you know, but he's also cheap, you know? So probably 13, 12, 11, probably.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 2 But anyway. Are you sure you don't want to file a police report?

Speaker 2 You sure you don't want to take care of that?

Speaker 2 He's not currently still offering 12-year-olds $10 licking his fuck because we might want to put an end to that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right, actually. And maybe that's the type of game we can go to do next is trapping guys like that, you know? $12 butt games.

Speaker 2 That's different.

Speaker 1 Anyway, I shouldn't have said anything like that.

Speaker 1 Just so our viewers know, right? I know you have the largest YouTube channel that exists, the most that they can have on there.

Speaker 1 You have more subscribers than, I think, people in America.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I haven't thought of that.

Speaker 1 What's the population of America? Sorry to cut you off, Jimmy.

Speaker 2 Like 300 million, right?

Speaker 2 Almost four. Oh, it's almost four.
Is it? The same America population.

Speaker 2 334. Oh, yeah.
We're about the same. We're at 330.
Yeah, so

Speaker 2 we're tied with America.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I guess it's,

Speaker 2 I mean, I, uh, it's crazy, man. Like, eight years ago, I was in high school.
So it's kind of funny when I think about it because eight years ago, I'm raising my hand desk to use the bathroom.

Speaker 2 And then, yeah, I guess now we have the same subscribers as America. Yeah.
Yeah, it's pretty.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a difference.

Speaker 2 Pretty wild how it happens. It's,

Speaker 2 it's a lot, man. You know what's interesting?

Speaker 2 Cause you're, you're talking about like our large subscriber count is it's like when when I had like uh 10 million subscribers, I was like, I thought this is fame.

Speaker 2 Like this is, you know, like I would go on a Walmart and I don't know, maybe one person would ask for a photo and it was like, this is fucking cool. This is what it's like.
But you don't.

Speaker 2 There's just like such a big difference where, and this is going to sound obvious, but where I'm at now than when I had like 10 million subscribers or where I was like four years ago.

Speaker 2 And it's, it keeps getting crazier every year and every year.

Speaker 2 Like, like people will follow my car to like, you know, if I'm out and they see me, they'll like try to stalk me so they can see where I live.

Speaker 2 Like, wow, you know, that's like, that kind of stuff didn't happen four years ago or almost anything I do ends up on the internet, right? Like,

Speaker 2 um, one time I was like at a drive, every time I go to a drive-through, it's like flipping a coin on whether or not 10, like someone's going to go, Mr. Beast.

Speaker 2 And then all the people in the back are going to run to the window and it's going to be this thing that's, you know, kind of intense.

Speaker 2 Or if it's just like a really, really old person and I'm like always super happy when like I pull up to a drive-through and it sounds like they're 50. Cause I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm good.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But if they're, if they sound like they're in their 20s or 30s, it's brutal. Cause then it's like one time someone did that.
They opened it. She was like, you're Mr.
Beast. I was like, yeah.

Speaker 2 And she goes to whip out her phone and was like, hey, I don't want people to know what I'm driving. Like, we could chat, but just please no photos.

Speaker 2 Cause then if it goes viral, I'm gonna have to sell this car. And like, it's just a lot of work.
And she's like, okay.

Speaker 2 And then she goes to get the food and she comes back. And there's just, I see just 10 other people that work, I won't even say the restaurant, but behind her coming up with their phones recording.

Speaker 2 I was like, I thought I could trust you. And I had to drive off before they handed me my food because I was like, if I don't, they're going to start filming.

Speaker 2 People will see the car drive, blah, blah, blah. And then it's funny, like the next day I see on Reddit, Mr.
Beast is an asshole, just drove off.

Speaker 2 And it's like, like, no, you forgot to tell the part where I was like, hey, please don't dox my car. You know, just immediately leaves that whole thing out.
And so there's a lot of that.

Speaker 2 Like, or another time I was at a restaurant. I don't even know who I was with, but someone paid for my food.
And

Speaker 2 I was like,

Speaker 2 when I asked for the bill, they're like, oh, someone paid for it. They're like, told me, tell you they like your videos.
I was like, cool. How do I tip? And they're like, well, we don't have a bill.

Speaker 2 And I was like, okay. So I just laughed.
And then the next day I see on the internet, Mr. Beast stiffed me and didn't leave a tip or whatever.
And it's like, someone paid for my meal.

Speaker 2 I didn't get a bill. It's not like I carry cash.

Speaker 2 And I was just, it's so, I have so many instances like that where like, no one gives a fuck when you're smaller about all these little things.

Speaker 2 But like, as I've gotten bigger, yeah, it's just like every interaction, it's uh.

Speaker 2 it's like a 10% chance this thing's going to end up on the internet and or they're going to try to twist things or or whatever. And it's just gotten crazier.

Speaker 2 Like people, like I said, follow me or, um,

Speaker 2 yeah, it's, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you get, well, you get to a point also with popularity where you've also gone oh, you can't go back first of all. You can't unbeast yourself.

Speaker 2 Well, actually, I can unbeast myself. If I wear a beanie, I've noticed, like, I've, I've tried all sorts of outfits when I fly to see which ones get rude.

Speaker 2 If I put my bangs in a beanie and put that on, because I've never worn anything like that in my videos, the amount of photos I take go down like crazy. Wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So it's like, and then if I combo the beanie with like a pair of glasses, because I also have never worn glasses in my videos, it takes it down so I've like studied it okay because like I used to just rock a hood but that's kind of like suspicious it's like especially in places where it's not cold people yeah guy who's like a bank robber but he's at United Airlines makes them like double look and then they're like oh shit so the hood strat doesn't work um but the the beanie and glasses strat that's that's the key yeah if you want to be like low-key yeah no i think there's different ways to do different little disguises i i do think it's interesting what you're saying though like about like i i would notice um,

Speaker 1 this is just for me, but I would notice, like, someone would pay for my food sometime at a restaurant. Yeah.
But then I would read, like, oh, he didn't thank us for it. Right.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 1 so really, they were paying for it. So I would, like, engage with them, right? Which is, it's okay, but it's like at some point, it's like, maybe I'm doing with I'd rather just pay for the food.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd rather just pay for my food. I didn't know that there was this other exchange to it, right? So I'm not complaining.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for the extra food, but if I'm in a hurry or something and now I'm in a different spot and now I'm in a conversation where somebody also then wants to ask you about a business thing or something.

Speaker 1 It's like,

Speaker 1 you know, there's no rule book for these kinds of things. Right.
There's no rule book for it.

Speaker 2 So you kind of have to like learn on the go, like, what do I do when random people pay for my food? Oh, I guess this is the random people paid for my food etiquette.

Speaker 2 I have to stand there and demand a bill from the waitress five times until they give it so I can tip. I then have to walk around the restaurant and find who paid for it and thank them.

Speaker 2 It's like, these are the things that you just kind of have to learn as you get more famous. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, it's just interesting, you know?

Speaker 1 And people will be like, oh, famous people complaining, you know, but it's like, but if somebody, if popularity is a blessing and a curse, and sometimes it's a side effect of what you even wanted to do, right?

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Speaker 1 How did you become, just so our listeners know, how did you become Mr. Beast? You know, yeah, were you a, were you, was there at a point where you were just a beast? And was there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. So when I was

Speaker 2 probably 13 or 11, you know, Xbox Live, I just was randomizing the name and it gave me like the name Mr. V6000.
And so that was just like my Xbox gamer tag when I was playing Call of Duty.

Speaker 1 So they gave you, did they ever come after you and try to claim any title to it?

Speaker 2 Well, no, because it's just like a random name generator. They don't own it.
But then, so then when I started a YouTube channel, I just called it Mr. V6000.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 everyone was just like, why is the 6000? I was like, I don't know. And then I eventually just dropped it.
And there's Mr. Beast.
So that's kind of how it came about.

Speaker 2 But in terms of how I got where I am now, I started making videos when I was 11, had no fucking clue what I was doing. They were absolute trash.
And then

Speaker 2 no one watched them when I was 11. No one watched them when I was 12.
No one watched them when I was 13. No one watched them when I was 14.
No one watched them when I was 15.

Speaker 2 And then I started to get like, holy fuck, is anyone ever going to watch these? I'm like four years in.

Speaker 2 I'm like having depressive mental breakdowns because I'm pouring everything I have. But I mean, like at the time, you know, obviously everyone thinks the videos I make are great.

Speaker 2 And I thought I was making like insanely great videos, but they're just trash. I just, um, and like the problem is I didn't have anyone to teach me how to edit.
So I'm like learning on my own.

Speaker 2 I didn't, I didn't know anything about cameras, didn't know anything about anything. And then 16, no one's watching them.
17 is no one watching them.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, fuck, I just like, I only, my whole life, I was just like, I just want to do YouTube. I need to make enough money by the time I graduate high school so I can do this.

Speaker 2 Or I'm fucked because like I didn't have good grades or anything. And, you know, we didn't have much money because my parents were overleveraged in 2008.

Speaker 2 They're in the army, bought some properties 2008. And then the recession or financial crisis hit, went bankrupt, lost everything.

Speaker 2 So like my mom was also like, fuck, my son's just going to be

Speaker 2 like, just going to be homeless. And she, she hates it.
And, and so I finally, 18, about to graduate high school, still no one watches the videos. No one gives a fuck.

Speaker 1 I'm making it. I did it on graduation night.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I remember like, yeah, it's just like my mom's like, all right, it's time to accept reality. Got to go to community college, got to get a degree.

Speaker 2 And I was just like, I didn't want to, but I was like, okay, let me just pick the easiest, lamest fucking degree. I think it was like some communications degree in my local community.

Speaker 1 Zoning is one of them.

Speaker 2 But then

Speaker 2 two weeks into it, I just was like, fuck this shit. And so every day, because I didn't have enough money to move out, I just go to college, but then I would just work on videos in my car.

Speaker 2 And I was just like, okay, in six months, my mom's going to find out that I have straight zeros, kick me out of the house.

Speaker 2 I got to get it where people are watching my videos enough where I can like live off of it over the next six months. And then I just started doing a bunch of stupid stuff.
Like

Speaker 2 around this time is when I counted to 100,000. Yeah.
So so

Speaker 2 which and a lot of other things like that.

Speaker 1 And I watching somebody semi-unconscious count their way through like the 80,000 is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was, and well, there was one part, I think, at 93,000 where I was like 92,999, 91,000. I actually went backwards.
I didn't realize it. And then I just went 91,000 one, 91,002.

Speaker 2 So I like, it's, yeah, it was, it was, cause I was so just out of it at that point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there are moments in that where you're like, yeah, somebody helped this guy or something. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 But anyways, around that point, I had a month where I made 20 grand and then i was like mom i have straight zeros i'll move out tomorrow and then i just moved out so that and then yeah then we just kept reinvesting it all and here we are so it's like a 15 year journey and it's been pretty crazy was it hard to learn to reinvest in yourself is that like a um

Speaker 2 i i know you kind of mentioned a minute ago was that like a thing is it hard to learn to reinvest no for me it always came natural because like i i have a well now it's a little bit crazier because we're traveling everything but back then i lived in a place that was 720 a month and i split it with someone so needed $360 for rent.

Speaker 2 And I had like a $2,005 Dodge Durango, which wasn't that expensive. So it was like, okay, $1,000 to cover my expenses, everything else, just pour back in.
You know what I mean? So if you just live

Speaker 2 below your means, then it allows you just to go crazy and throw everything back into it. And I just was like a fucking machine back then that lived to make the best videos possible.

Speaker 2 And so every dollar was just a way to just make a better video.

Speaker 1 Wow. So you want to make the best video.
There's something about it that you want to make the best video.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, it's I've obviously studied the algorithm, studied the tens of thousands of YouTube videos. I'm a data nerd.

Speaker 2 And what's interesting is the data always just shows that the better a video is, the more views it gets. It's like if people watch it and enjoy it, YouTube gives it more views.

Speaker 2 So it's like, yeah, it's the better. That's, that's what took us from 100,000 views a video to a million to 10 million views of video to 20 to 30 to 40 to 50 to 100.

Speaker 2 It's just, you know, people notice when you put in the effort and go above and beyond it. So they just keep coming back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that, yeah, watching, I mean, I know this will be on Amazon, right? Yeah, Prime Video, the Beast Games thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But watching some of your stuff is just like, man, this is like fantastical. You know, it's like fantasy.
There's fantasy parts of it.

Speaker 1 What was one you guys just put up about? You went out into these, like,

Speaker 1 like this cave.

Speaker 2 Seven days in the Underground Cave?

Speaker 1 Was it a real cave or not a real cave?

Speaker 2 So we did seven days in a cave and seven days in an underground city.

Speaker 1 Which one are you doing? Underground city.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's in Romania.

Speaker 1 that's uh that was crazy it was so great because it's like it's mixes like past and present it's like i can't it's like

Speaker 2 are we the mayans or the aliens here i can there's this mix of like yeah you know where is this a real city is it not it it looks brand new but then it's also has well and the romans used to mine salt out of there i think it was like uh something crazy like two billion uh pounds of salt have been mined there or something ridiculous yeah so it's been used for over a thousand years and then they built a a little underground city there.

Speaker 2 And there's a Ferris wheel and everything. It's so mind-blowing that, like, how there's a real Ferris wheel there.
Yeah, in that underground city.

Speaker 1 That's a part.

Speaker 1 That's one thing. It's just like, I can't tell sometimes when it's new or old, or it's like, it's just, it's fantastical.
You know, that's what it feels like to me.

Speaker 1 It felt like, dang, this is dang fantasy, you know?

Speaker 1 So you're a Mr. Beast.
Is there a Mrs. Beast? Do they have a Mrs.
Beast?

Speaker 2 I mean, I have a girlfriend. Okay.
You know, I didn't. I just call her Tia.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So she, yeah, you just call her by her natural name or whatever God-given name.

Speaker 1 Do you remember your first girlfriend ever or no?

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 but you know, I'm, I love my current girlfriend. Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what I was just, or yeah, I was just thinking, like, were you good at having girl?

Speaker 1 Like, was there ever a girl that you even had a crush on your neighborhood or anything when you were a kid?

Speaker 2 You don't just say her name. No, it's, bro, when I,

Speaker 2 I,

Speaker 2 when I was growing up, I was so, I mean, I still am, but I was incredibly awkward. I had a lot of pimples when I was a teenager.
Yeah. Like, I have scars on my forehead.

Speaker 2 from I was so I was an acne up freak that just obsessed over YouTube. I don't, I didn't know how to talk to a woman.
Like, if they were like, hi, I'd probably just be like, uh,

Speaker 2 what are you? You know, so it was, fuck, no, no.

Speaker 2 I mean, but it kind of worked to my advantage a little bit because that's why I just grinded so much from 11 to 18, which most people probably would have been trying to talk to girls or

Speaker 2 that'll kill all your team. Exactly.
Whereas I was just like, fucking, you're playing baseball and grinding on YouTube every second of the day. So it worked worked out at my advantage.

Speaker 2 Do you know Accutane?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Accutane, didn't it kill? It didn't kill Jessica Simpson.
What happened to her?

Speaker 1 That wasn't her. Sorry.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I don't know.
It might have killed someone. I mean, it's a pretty intense thing, but I took Accutane and it just got rid of all my acne.
Oh, it helped? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 And actually, I was one of a Call of Duty YouTuber I watched when I was younger. He just said that he started taking Accutane and all his acne went away.
And I was like, okay.

Speaker 2 So I asked my dermatologist and I took it. And then all my acne went away as well.
And I was like, holy shit, where was, but I didn't take it till I was like 19 or 20.

Speaker 2 And I was like, my God, why didn't someone tell me about this?

Speaker 1 When did anybody tell you?

Speaker 2 Yeah, when I was 15 or 16. And I probably, it's probably for the better because it's pretty intense, but it like dries your skin out like crazy.

Speaker 2 And it gets to the point where the, your skin will get like, it shrinks your pores too. So like the blackheads on your nose will literally come out on their own.

Speaker 2 And like you'll like wake up one day and you'll just have like all the stuff. Like if you squeeze blackheads, they'll just be sitting on top of your nose.
It's like a miracle.

Speaker 1 Like when people put that worm rod in the ground, you ever seen that when they electrocute the ground to get the worms out basically like that yeah no and it's it was just a crazy thing so anyways i'm saying this because if there's any of you out there in the same spot as me accutane changed my life i hope to be like that call of duty youtuber was to me when i was younger to you it was it was wild some dude on call of duty is like hey get some accutane yeah he would just do it like a story time and talk about how he fixed his acne and i was just like oh changed my life dude we had to get this blot or they had something there was this finally i got a prescription because mine was bad too dude like and i was afraid to smile because sometimes you would have that hard patch and it would just be like it would be like a gang of acne, like yeah, MS Thurtacne or whatever.

Speaker 2 I know it too well, man. That was my fucking forehead for years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you would smile and it would fucking just squirt on somebody. It was almost like you were

Speaker 1 afraid to make certain faces because a couple of them would go off.

Speaker 2 You know, it was like, you know, like, actually, I don't know if mine was that intense.

Speaker 1 I had, and if you'd get them like in here in the corners of my eyes, it was so scary. And I already have a big nose, so if I get a pimp on it, I'd have to stay home until it went away or whatever.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 God, dude, yeah,

Speaker 1 acne was crazy because you didn't do anything, right? You've been at home. You're just growing up or whatever.
Yeah. And then God's like, oh, yeah, you little bastard.

Speaker 2 I know. It's like you see these people who don't wash their face and they just have perfect flawless skin.

Speaker 2 And then you're over here doing everything you can and you got, you know, 100 blackheads on your nose and probably 40 pimples on your face. And it's just like,

Speaker 2 why? Why am I being punished? You know, like, why me?

Speaker 1 And we had this blotter stuff. It was like this, this green stuff came out at one point.
So you have to put it all, it had like a blotter almost like a, um, for playing bingo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you'd put it all over your skin, but it had green. It was green, right? It's kind of green.

Speaker 1 And you couldn't tell right when you put it on, but if you were at school and you had a white shirt or something, your whole shirt of your neck would start just getting green throughout the day because you'd sweat it down, you know?

Speaker 2 It was harrowing. How old are you?

Speaker 1 I was probably 11, 12.

Speaker 2 Me growing up, we had proactive or whatever the fuck that was. That's what you had.

Speaker 2 I don't remember the screen shit you're talking about.

Speaker 1 We had prayer and some other shit that they had. Yeah, meeting the first girl was.
Oh, I remember in our apartment complex, some dad.

Speaker 1 I remember this is the first girl that I maybe had a crush on or something. The dad got a daughter a drum, right, for Christmas or whatever.
Yeah. And she would make her play like on the back porch.

Speaker 1 He would practice. And I would go around and listen.
And

Speaker 1 she would play,

Speaker 1 what's that ice cube song? It's like

Speaker 2 it was a good day.

Speaker 1 Bum bum bum bum bum bum.

Speaker 2 Bum bum bum bum bum bum.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Kind of thank God.
Bum bum bum. Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No bark.

Speaker 2 No boom boom boom boom bum.

Speaker 1 Love that. Let me play that, dude.
And I would just go down there and I just fell in love listening to play that. Yeah.
And I remember that. It was like the first time.

Speaker 2 And then what happened between you guys?

Speaker 1 Oh, nothing. There was some violence between our families a little bit.
My brother had some issues, I think, with her brother, but there,

Speaker 1 but that like the first crush.

Speaker 2 What kind of violence?

Speaker 1 Somebody like got upset at somebody and somebody threw like

Speaker 1 a stump or whatever through somebody's bathroom window.

Speaker 2 They really got hot sometimes, dude.

Speaker 1 But I, but between me and her, she didn't know that. I don't think she ever knew that, but I would listen to her play that and the dad would yell at her to fucking play it.

Speaker 1 He was, I think, a Raiders fan or whatever.

Speaker 1 Anyway, sorry, kind of rambling.

Speaker 1 You just got back from India, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nice, dude. How was that?

Speaker 2 Have you ever done shows or anything in India?

Speaker 1 I went to India when I was a student. We went to Madras and we worked at like a children's home.
It was like, it was just a week, but it was magnificent, man.

Speaker 1 Some of the most beautiful, energetic humans in the world, you know, like a lot of happiness I felt like over there.

Speaker 1 So I really enjoyed it. What was your experience like?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I enjoyed being there as well.

Speaker 2 Well, we,

Speaker 2 yeah, it was, it was pretty. Pretty intense, not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 We like when I, I mean, it's, it got off to like, I literally as i'm walking out the airport there was just a bunch of people there waiting you know um right so i took some photos said hi to people whatever got in my car um and then that video someone filmed got posted on like this uh big like i guess uh celebrities are like a really big thing like bollywood stars in india and so like they posted on this instagram account and it got like 20 million views in like the next 10 hours so basically um

Speaker 2 like everyone knew i was in india after that which we also said we were coming coming because we were going to like, you know, talk on a stage because I was launching a product and things like that.

Speaker 2 But it got pretty intense because people were trying to find which hotel I was in and they were like camping out at all the hotels.

Speaker 2 And so like, I'm like, as we're pulling in, like, with my seat really reclined, because I didn't want to know. And somehow they figured out which one we're staying at.

Speaker 2 And then there's people waiting out there. And there's, it, it got pretty crazy.
And then we. We just like launched our chocolate bar at a mall.

Speaker 2 There's a feastable over there? Yeah, feastables. We launched it over there.
And there was like, I mean, it was crazy the amount of people that showed up.

Speaker 2 We were just talking on stage and whatever, but the problem is so many people are showing up there that they like, like people were going on in places in the mall where they weren't supposed to, getting in locked doors.

Speaker 2 And the line and crowd was getting so big, they made us end it early and leave, which was annoying because like, I felt bad because so many people showed up.

Speaker 2 And I just wanted to at least like wave and say hi to a lot of them.

Speaker 2 And then. Yeah,

Speaker 2 I met a lot of the biggest Indian creators over there and super cool, filmed some stuff. Wow.
Yeah, we just we

Speaker 2 what was also interesting is um we did this uh meet and greet with a bunch of uh Bollywood actors like their kids and just said hi to them and um I've I've just never watched any Bollywood films so I was just you know hanging out saying hi to some of these people and like I took a photo with this kid and one parent and then one of the guys beside me who just works there was like hey

Speaker 2 Do you know who that guy is? It's this. And he showed me like an Instagram account.
He had like 60 million followers. I was like, no.
He's like, oh, that was the guy I just met. He's like, yeah.

Speaker 2 I I was like, Oh, cool. And then I took a photo and said hi to another kid with his mom, and he's like, The guy was like, She is, she's like in these movies and like this.

Speaker 2 And there, he was like, freaking out. And I was like, And I didn't know who any of these people were.

Speaker 2 And so I was like, Okay, now I need you to tell me who they are before they walk up. And so, he'd like, it's just this random guy I just met.

Speaker 2 Um, and he's just like, Okay, here's here's this person's Instagram account. It'd be like 30 million followers.

Speaker 2 Like, there, apparently, there's like twice as many people use uh Instagram in India than in USA. So, I didn't know any of this, but like, it's a really dude.

Speaker 1 You forget about that and just how many people there are. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 TikTok's banned in India. So that makes more people use Instagram.
And so it's like really, really big over there. Cause that was like, it was, I was, it was crazy.

Speaker 2 There's so many people that I met that just had crazy high follower accounts. And it's like, I, you don't see that over here in America.

Speaker 2 And then I looked into the data because I'm a data guy and I was like, oh my gosh, like a fuckload of people use it over there. And the usage skyrocketed after they banned TikTok.

Speaker 2 And same thing with YouTube, actually. Like India, more people watch YouTube in India than in America.
Um, because again, like in America, we're competing against TikTok over there, they're not.

Speaker 2 And then the fact that there's over a billion people, so it's like a YouTube is bigger over there, too, then. Yeah, YouTube's bigger over there.
So it's like a huge market. But no, I had a great time

Speaker 2 and it was just, it was pretty intense, though.

Speaker 2 Like, I posted an Instagram story showing us driving down the road, and they're just everywhere we drove, there's just dozens of kids that would just run along the side of the road and follow our car.

Speaker 2 Just excited, yeah. Yeah.
And so it was, it was, I felt, I felt love. Yeah, I felt very loved.
That's, that's for sure. I was like, damn, people over here, they care.

Speaker 2 Um, and it was, it was cool, it was cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a lot of good energy over there, and it's safe energy, too. So, the excitement, I feel like in a place like India, you don't feel like it's going to get,

Speaker 1 was it getting shady, you think?

Speaker 2 Not like uh, that I thought people would stab me, but they're, how do I say it in a way where it doesn't sound like a penativa? They were a little less concerned for personal space over there.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. They're, they're like more, they'll run up to you and get like really excited.

Speaker 2 People, it's not a lot of personal space Yeah, they're like get your own pillow like in America You know people dab you up like a group of five or six people and they'll stay a foot or two away, you know, but over there like they'll just run up and hug me and like get really really close and it gets a little intense sometimes like I noticed like some of them did not give a fuck about my personal space especially if it was a bigger group.

Speaker 1 Oh, they'll slide in your mouth if you leave it open. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 So that was that was an interesting thing.

Speaker 1 They just, yeah, I remember being, they would, people were sleeping on the side of the road there, I remember in India when I was there.

Speaker 1 You would just be driving at night and and people just, you know, somebody was just walking, and I guess they decided to get some rest or whatever.

Speaker 1 But yeah, you don't even get your own pillow in India. Like, you lay down, and then there's other, you know, people have a little quad.
It's just, there's a lot of people there.

Speaker 1 There is, you know, there's a lot of folks.

Speaker 1 You were talking about feastables, dude. And thank you guys.
Sent me some. You know, I'll go the whole day.
I don't need any sugar.

Speaker 1 Middle of the night, crack open to a box of feastables that some asshole sent me. And

Speaker 2 that asshole. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they're awesome. Thank you.
And the peanut butter one is probably my favorite one. Thank you.

Speaker 1 But then it's like, I just have so much, you know, I freak out in the middle of the night and cause I'm just a damn sugar pervert. And then now I just can't go back to bed, you know? But thank you.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 but what I want to say is, would you ever do like a Willy Wonka type of thing? Because I feel like this, I mean, you already are kind of there, you know?

Speaker 2 So, you know, we put 10 golden tickets in it one time. I already knew that.
Yeah. No, it's all good.
So we, it's funny you asked. So, yeah, that's a great idea.

Speaker 2 We should, it's almost like we should put 10 golden tickets in random bars. I should build a chocolate factory, fly them down and have them compete for it.

Speaker 2 Did you already do all that? Yeah.

Speaker 2 But hey, it was pretty cool. It was years ago.
Most of your fans probably have no idea I did it.

Speaker 2 So yeah, we put the golden tickets out.

Speaker 2 I built an actual chocolate river. And you know what's funny?

Speaker 2 I don't even know if I've ever told this story, but we, I like, it's the day before we're going to film. You know, the 10 golden ticket winners are in town.

Speaker 2 And I go to the chocolate factory to just, you know, check out things. And the chocolate river is just not there.

Speaker 2 Like we literally had like a multiple feet deep spread across this like warehouse, like Chocolate River, but and it's like there. But then I come back the next day and it's just not there.

Speaker 2 Like it's literally empty. The entire thing

Speaker 2 you think?

Speaker 2 We don't know. I mean, I guess there was like a hole in the

Speaker 2 lining on the bottom of the river we built and it just all sank through.

Speaker 2 I don't know. But see that Chocolate River right there.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. I did not know this at all.

Speaker 2 Yeah, posit right there. Uh, is that the guy that took it? Uh, no, that's Nolan, one of our friends.

Speaker 2 And then that's a he every time someone got eliminated, they got in the boat and we uh paddled them down the chocolate river out the factory, but uh, yeah, so it's like the day before, and I just walk in and there's like a waterfall and everything, but it's just empty.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, Where the fuck did my chocolate river go last night? And so we had to like blitz to refill it and redo the entire thing. It was a fucking shit show.
Just search uh Mr.

Speaker 2 Beast Chocolate Factory, and you can see like you can see what it actually looks like or on youtube um yeah i'm sorry i'm so behind on that no it's all good i i mean i have so many crazy stories i can tell you about the fucking crazy shit we've done like who else has built a fucking chocolate factory yeah i didn't even know why here skip ahead to the inside yeah or yeah right there look at that shit on and candy and everything yeah positive wow yeah so those are real real candy i mean

Speaker 2 It was fucking difficult to keep the bugs out of there.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. You don't think about that.
Bugs like candy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so we gave the winner the option of, you know, keep the factory or just have $500,000. And I was like, yo, like, this

Speaker 2 chocolate river is probably going to disappear. It tends to do that.
These candies are all going to go bad in the next few days. This is going to be an absolute disaster.

Speaker 2 I'd recommend you take the money. I'll give it to you.
I mean, I'm not, you know, I will, but I just, it's going to cost you like six figures to like clean this shit up.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't want to just dump that on you, you know?

Speaker 1 Was that Bobby Flay in that too?

Speaker 1 At the end is gordon ramsey so the the last challenge they did is they had to cook a dessert and then whoever uh gordon ramsey said did the best won the chocolate factory oh wow and he looks a little bit like charlie from the original chocolate factory pull up a charlie from the original chocolate factory photo there let's do a little shot compare gordon ramsey to him and i'm going to be so accurate here which blew my own mind actually

Speaker 2 yeah actually

Speaker 2 Actually, Carl, the guy to the right of Gordon, kind of looks like.

Speaker 1 Let's go. Hold on.
No, no, no. The picture I want is up one.

Speaker 1 No, down, scroll. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, right there to the left, left on that side, right there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Carl kind of looks like that.

Speaker 1 So pretty close, huh? Yeah. Your imagination.

Speaker 1 Pretty close, right there. Holy shit.
That could be his.

Speaker 2 What is that shirtless photo of Gordon? Wait, wait, wait. No, go to that shirtless one.
What am I looking at though?

Speaker 2 When did he start posing like that? I don't know. My boy.

Speaker 1 That's one vote for Bobby Kennedy right there, dude.

Speaker 1 That's crazy, bro.

Speaker 2 Oh, Bobby Flay.

Speaker 1 bobby flay's daughter is beautiful actually man i don't care if she hears it um

Speaker 1 she's super talented that's exactly what i mean she's also a stunning young lady um

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 1 what are we saying

Speaker 1 no i got more to say i'll tell you this um

Speaker 2 yeah so you already did that man yeah and what's also interesting is while we were filming that video i was doing a different video where i didn't eat any food for two weeks what's the longest fast you've ever done i just did three days the other day of only water and it was it was or i did 72 hours it was good got a little temperamental yeah but i kind of enjoyed it and how long do you do i did 14 days only water only water yeah i lost uh what was it like 20 something pounds it was was it to lose weight or just to you know it was for a video just to see what happens um and

Speaker 2 you like After like day five or six, like you're pretty fucking drained. Like you have no energy.
You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 2 If you read online about extended fast, people will be like, oh, you'll lose minimal muscle mass and it's mostly fat.

Speaker 2 And which seemed like a lot of Reddit threads and things when you first Google it, that's what it tells you.

Speaker 2 So I did a DEXA scan before I did my extended fast, you know, where they measure the fat and muscle in your body and do one after. And I was like, I lost like six pounds of muscle.

Speaker 2 It was like pretty depressing how much muscle I lost. Yeah, you lose it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, which I mean, is obvious, but that's not what the internet said would happen, which I was like, someone needs to like correct this because, yeah, it was, it was pretty depressing.

Speaker 2 So I lost whatever it was, like 13 pounds of fat and seven pounds of lean mass.

Speaker 1 But It's depressing because then you're so you start to and you don't want to explain to people hey, I'm fasting because people think something's going on with you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but even after you start eating, like the muscle didn't just come back. So it's like, yeah, that was that was pretty brutal, but it was, yeah, it was intense not eating.

Speaker 2 And I still was filming and working throughout it. So like on day 10 and 11 and 12, like it was really fucking with me.

Speaker 2 Like I standing up was just like brutal, you know, and like walking around or anything like that because you have no energy.

Speaker 1 You needed a real cane like Willy Wonka had. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was, that was intense.

Speaker 1 And what were you, did you notice like, but your clarity got pretty sharp as a whip where you able to use that?

Speaker 2 People say that, but no, for me, it never, that never hit. I never got that like a superhuman clarity because that's what I was hoping for.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, I just like, I was just fucking tired, man, all the time. I was too tired to have clarity.

Speaker 1 Oh, I could read people's damn minds.

Speaker 2 I thought that guy was naked at first on the right.

Speaker 1 Former all-pro NFL tackle Russell Oak Kong is also over 150 pounds since retiring, including losing 100 pounds in 40 days by fasting every every day.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's just, that's crazy. We just started a video where we, uh, or we're about to start it after when I go back home.

Speaker 2 We built a gym, like a, just a weightlifting gym, um, and then we put a big red circle around it. And then we're going to give a guy, uh, either,

Speaker 2 I don't know which one, um, if he loses a hundred pounds before he leaves that red circle.

Speaker 2 And so, and he has a trainer in there and he has a chef at everything he'll need. And then, um,

Speaker 1 yeah, and then exciting.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So, like, that video might take like a year, you know, and so he just, he's living in there.

Speaker 2 We have cameras set up and it's just like lose a hundred pounds or, or leave, you know, and if you lose a hundred pounds before you leave, you, you win the money.

Speaker 1 That's fair, dude. They should do that around a, like an indie car race, you know?

Speaker 1 Just put a big, huge circle around like a talladega or whatever. Why? And just be like, lose a hundred pounds.

Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't think about the end of it.

Speaker 2 Another video we're about to start too is I bought a jet jet and then we're grabbing two people who just got like graduated from pilot school or whatever, just got their license.

Speaker 2 And we're going, if you guys live in this jet for the next 100 days, don't step foot out of it once. In the next 100 days, you get to keep the jet.

Speaker 2 So then they'll own a private jet, but they can fly it around or do whatever just as long as they don't leave. They just can't leave.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So like, I'm hoping they'll like fly to New York and just Uber eat some pizza to the door of the jet, then fly to California or whatever. And it just like, yeah, that'll be a fun one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that sounds interesting. Is there a video? Say if you got you, they shut you down.

Speaker 1 They're like, beast, you're done no more beasting around here boy no more get out eat beast what if people were like that and then you had to make you got to make one more video do you know what it would be you think

Speaker 2 that's uh only one more i mean because you're already you've i mean you've got the five million dollar you know you've upped the ante yeah well that's on the the show but on youtube because i don't i don't have that i don't have streaming money on youtube you know what i mean um i don't I don't know, man.

Speaker 2 We've

Speaker 2 there's not, because there's so many things I want to do. It'd be hard to pick one.
Oh, there are. Yeah.

Speaker 2 you still have a ton of ideas oh unlimited i mean the the bottleneck for me is not ideas it's just like actually pulling them off you know because a lot of these are multi-million dollar projects that take months upon months to set up months to film months to edit etc so it's just like they're pretty brutal like one of the ones we did recently that i thought was really cool but like this is an example of how much time it takes is we we built a bunker underground.

Speaker 2 Did you see that one? I know. I'm not sure.
Okay, well, so we had to dig like a super deep hole.

Speaker 2 We bought a bunker, put it in, covered it up, and then built, pull up the, like the outside of it for him so he could see what it looks like. And then we had to, yeah, that top one right there.

Speaker 1 I've seen some of this. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 So that, that's a bunker we built. And then those two people, if they lived in there for 100 days, they went half a million dollars.
Oh, they did it too. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And then like, but you have to set deck the bunker. And then, um, so that's like multiple months of building and everything.
And then you put them in there.

Speaker 2 And then that's still three months and 10 days of filming.

Speaker 2 And then, you know, you have to have like camera crew there going around the clock and you have to have a medic there just for safety and all these other things and i have to check in every day and then now you come out the other end you have 100 days worth of footage which takes you know editing team forever to come through and watch and edit and then build stories so like that's like a eight month long project you know what i mean so that's they're just like it's a lot yeah it's very very intense and and that's the thing is like

Speaker 2 the fact that i can do all this for a youtube video it was like unfathomable when I was growing up. Like it's crazy to see like the kind of

Speaker 2 content that can be supported by YouTube.

Speaker 2 You know, like i think on that video we probably spent like four and a half million dollars um making that yeah just on that between the bunker and the prize pool and everything and how many uh shows can you have like can you have a couple of things going like that at once yeah we have to i try to upload two videos a month so we have to be working on six day videos at a time because these videos take months to pull off so because if we're only working on one at a time then i'd only upload once every like three or four months and do you come up with most of the ideas yourself or do you have kind of a team when you guys kind of pool them yeah so that's where it's interesting because uh the ideas are incredibly important because like you i do a lot of seven day challenges right i spent seven days buried alive i spent seven days in solitary confinement i seven days a cave underground city seven days on desert island blah blah blah and what's interesting is like you could do seven days buried alive so me laying in a coffin for seven days or you could do theoretically right i could lay in a bathtub for seven days right both take the same amount of my time both are me just laying there but the one in the bathtub isn't going to get any views no one gives a fuck the one of me laying in a tomb underground, everyone will care because it's like, fucking, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 This dude buried himself alive.

Speaker 2 So it like shows like the theoretically, it's kind of the same thing, but this idea is just in a different sitting environment and will probably get 10,000 times more views.

Speaker 2 And so it shows like the importance of the idea, if that makes sense. Like it's not

Speaker 2 views or success isn't just, isn't directly correlated with the effort you put in. A lot of it has to do with what is the overarching concept.

Speaker 2 And so once you kind of realize that, you just like get really obsessed with how do I come up with crazy, cool, original, viral ideas.

Speaker 2 And so that's what I spent most of my teenage years obsessing over. And I used to do every single day, I would brainstorm video ideas and I'd write them down.

Speaker 2 And that's how I built like, I have this like Google sheet with like 10,000 ideas on it. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 I thought of trying to sell that to YouTubers at one point because there's so many there, I could never film them.

Speaker 2 But then after a while, now that things have gotten so big and I have to like film 25, 28 days a month and I have all this stuff going on, I can't do an hour a day. So I hired people to do it for me.

Speaker 2 And then, you know, like once a week, they'll just go, hey, here's 200 really cool, unique ideas. I'll flip through them and, you know, and they'll usually inspire something in my head.

Speaker 2 Because a big thing too is like, this is what I've probably said this on podcasts before, but like, if there was a, like a fruit in Africa that if you ate, you grew two feet taller and you didn't know that existed until I just told you right now, right?

Speaker 2 You wouldn't have been able to brainstorm ideas around eating that fruit. But now that you know it exists, you could.
And so it's like very important to

Speaker 2 always be intaking new information and learning things because that's how you, you know, come up with more original creative stuff.

Speaker 2 Like I noticed when I first started hiring people to like, you know, start brainstorming stuff for me that like after two months of someone doing this, you would just basically start getting the same ideas on autopilot, right?

Speaker 2 Like if a guy really likes basketball,

Speaker 2 you'll start to notice like, oh, 10% of his ideas have to do with basketball. But it's not because basketball is like, the greatest ideas are most viral thing.

Speaker 2 It's just because that's what he watches. And so, you know, and you'll notice if someone watches baseball, they'll, oh, now they conveniently have baseball ideas.

Speaker 2 And, and so what you want is you just want to get someone who you just almost like want to make them constantly learn and absorb new information.

Speaker 2 Listen to 10 different podcasts, one episode of each, not 10 of one. Listen, you know, watch every sport, not one.
And you, you almost have to.

Speaker 2 like to train people to help you come up with good ideas you have to just train them to watch a bunch of different content absorb information and you'll see it come out in their ideas if that makes sense so first of all you'd find somebody who you like okay i like this that this person comes up with ideas.

Speaker 1 And then you'd be like, Now I just need to have, I need them to encourage them to consume different things.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's almost like information ingredients, different ingredients to come out with a different cake or exactly.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so you control their information diet by

Speaker 1 information diet.

Speaker 2 That's so wild. I mean, and that's, yeah, I mean, I obsess over things, so yeah, it's important, but that's that's that's been super helpful.

Speaker 2 Um, because yeah, it's just that's how we because a big part of getting 100 million views theoretically on a video is if uh any, you you know is it something someone has seen before or not like uh there's this ted talk i watched one time and he was talking about how you know if you're driving down the road and you just see a cow you you're probably not even going to look at it right who cares you've seen them all the time but if you're driving down the road and there's a purple cow you're gonna look like four times you're gonna remember that like you you know someone could ask you a year later and you'll be like yeah i saw a purple cow and it's like The only difference is it's purple.

Speaker 2 And it's kind of the same way on social media, right?

Speaker 2 Like if you're scrolling through videos and it's something you've seen before, nothing too crazy it's just you it's almost like you should visualize it as like that's the equivalent of someone seeing a cow but if it's something they've never seen before like you putting a bunker underground and two people living in it that's that is the equivalent of a purple cow on social media like how do i make something that prince would drink milk out of you know wait what'd you just say like how do you make something that prince would drink milk out of prince um

Speaker 1 prince musician what's his last name

Speaker 1 Prince. Prince.
Okay. You know what I'm talking about? Prince from Minnesota?

Speaker 2 No. Oh, Prince.
I've heard the word.

Speaker 2 Litericovich. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know that song? He's a musician, but purple. He was like a purple guy.
Gotcha, gotcha. So, like, how do you make this, right?

Speaker 1 There's 2,000 princes, right?

Speaker 1 But he's the, he's.

Speaker 2 He's the one-on-one. Yeah.
He's Prince. Gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 1 Right? Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, how do you...

Speaker 2 I gotcha. I got you.

Speaker 1 I'm saying the same thing you're saying. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So that's a very important thing.

Speaker 2 So it's just if anyone watching ever wants to do social media,

Speaker 2 make your ideas the purple cow. Don't just be the cow.
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Speaker 1 Like, what are some common misconceptions about you or your work? Do you feel like?

Speaker 2 Oh, that's a good one. um

Speaker 2 i would say the biggest one is i think uh people think we make content for kids and like you know but oh that's a great one yeah great answer yeah and it's uh a lot of because i've been famous famous air quotes i don't know but for a while now and i The thing is, when I was like in my young, like 20 years, I'm 26 now.

Speaker 2 When I was like 20 or 21, I didn't have much experience with storytelling or like making these like videos with contestants and like how to like show what they were feeling or anything.

Speaker 2 So back then the videos came across a little like

Speaker 2 ADHD, like fast paced or whatever, because it's not like I had Christopher Nolan as a father teaching me. I was just learning storytelling as I was going.

Speaker 2 So a lot of my videos back then got a lot of views.

Speaker 2 And like same when I was like 22 or 23, but you know, the last three years, we've really leveled up the storytelling and building characters and especially the last 18 months and gotten better at like making content that,

Speaker 2 you know, people in their 20s and 30s would be like, well, this is like good good and could enjoy.

Speaker 2 But because a lot of people haven't seen my newer videos and watched my older ones, they still think all my videos are like that. So they just kind of like push it up.

Speaker 2 So like when someone says like, ah, your videos are too ADHD and you don't have any storytelling, I'll usually like show them like one or two of our newer videos.

Speaker 2 They're like, oh my God, this is great. And I was like, yeah, let me guess, you just haven't seen a video in two years.
They're like, yeah. And so.
That kind of is a little bit of a misconception.

Speaker 2 I'm constantly fighting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, is that you're still like this kind of just entertainment for kids or that you're your entertainment, your ability to entertain is also still junior.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. And so, um, which obviously younger people watch the video.
Oh, yeah, great.

Speaker 2 I mean, I think like anyone, you know, could watch that bunker video and be like, whoa, this is just high quality, entertaining stuff. It's not like that.
Oh, I love that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like the child inside of me liked it and the adult inside of me liked it. Exactly.

Speaker 2 You know, so that, that would be one.

Speaker 2 I guess other misconceptions of, of it is like,

Speaker 2 we,

Speaker 2 I mean, we, it looks like a lot of these videos just, you know,

Speaker 2 it just looks like me and the boys having fun because that's what I want it to look like. I want to put the boys in an environment where they're just themselves and things like that.

Speaker 2 I think people think what I do is a lot easier than it is. Like,

Speaker 2 like these things are monster monumental projects that are a bitch to fucking do. And it's like, you know, and you know, a hundred plus million people are going to watch it.

Speaker 2 And you know, like, so everything's just got to be fucking great and perfect. And, but we don't have years to do these things.
We're trying to do what most people do in a year in two months.

Speaker 2 So it's like, you know, it is tight timelines and it's, it's just, we don't have the budgets of these giant studios or anything when we're doing these YouTube videos.

Speaker 2 And it's just, it's, it's very, very difficult. You know what I mean? Like I have hundreds of employees full-time.
You do? Yeah. That depend on that YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? At Mr. Beast Productions.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I, I, I don't even know if we have, I guess Mr.
Beast Studios.

Speaker 2 But yeah, it's, it's just a lot of pressure because it's.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's just a lot of people depend on it. These and it's, it's just absurd to think that I have all these employees and we're spending all this money.

Speaker 2 And I just assume like the magical YouTube algorithm, when I post this video, is just going to give it to 100 million people every single time. Wow.

Speaker 2 And it's like, it's just like, that's a lot of stress. And it's like, it's a lot of people who, you know, watch the con, it's just a lot of everything.
It's a lot of pressure, a lot of stress.

Speaker 2 And it's like, if I don't film, then there's no video. So it's also not a typical business because, you know, you can, on any other company, you can replace basically anyone.

Speaker 2 And you were the business. Exactly.
I am. Like, literally, if I'm just like, yo, for the next month, I don't want to film,

Speaker 2 the business is dead. You you know what I mean? So it's like, it's,

Speaker 2 yeah, it's, I, I wouldn't,

Speaker 2 I, yeah, I just,

Speaker 2 it's a lot. It's just a lot.

Speaker 1 No, it seems like a lot. But do you, did you know it was going to be that much stress? Do you find that you like the stress? Like, I remember even just for myself, right?

Speaker 1 Like, we have responsibilities now. We do like six episodes a month now.
Yeah. And at first, I remember I could barely do one episode a week was tough.
And some weeks it still is.

Speaker 1 But then some days I'll go through and it's like, this just starts to feel easier.

Speaker 1 I start to kind of of acclimate to where i am and then there's a part of my brain that's like okay well now what can we do but that same part of my brain is just the brain that that forgets like fuck when we barely just got to this place yeah and are we even okay here right so it's tough for me to like monitor the different parts of my brain the one that wants to do more or try new things and the one that also wants to make sure we're okay we're at and not forget to be happy right and be happy yeah yeah it's like yeah

Speaker 1 so most of the time i work now it's like um i guess what my question is like,

Speaker 1 I don't know what it is, man. Do you know what it is?

Speaker 2 I get what you're trying to ask.

Speaker 2 It's like, how do you, uh, which side of the pendulum are you swinging between being stressed and wanting to die constantly or like prioritizing being happy and like that, basically? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And are you able to battle that? Do you know, did you know you were as competitive in, and, or do you think you're competing against like the algorithm or you want people to see it?

Speaker 1 Like, you know, what is that thing that are you able to notice? Like, because I don't even know sometimes what drives me to do things or even want to learn more.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would say I

Speaker 2 like you, I'm just incredibly, incredibly, incredibly competitive. I just love winning.
And I, it's the thing is, I think people have a misconception.

Speaker 2 They like try to put everyone, especially famous people in a box where it's like, this is what motivates them. And this one reasons why they do everything.
And I believe you can be motivated by.

Speaker 2 multiple things, right? Like one thing that pushes me is the fact that, you know, a lot of my friends I grew up with work for me. And, right.

Speaker 2 And I don't want to ever have to fire them because we can't afford to pay them. I have people who, you know, moved across the world to come work for me.

Speaker 2 So, you know, that's one thing that motivates me, being able to provide for the people who risked everything. Another thing that motivates me is I just love entertaining people.

Speaker 2 And the fact that I get to entertain 100 million people or 200 million people or whatever it is, like I think our average videos are doing 200 million views in the first year.

Speaker 2 Like, I know that's a thing that won't last forever. Right.
I mean, that's like,

Speaker 2 at some point, you know, I'm not going to be able to upload something and 3% of the humans alive are going to watch it. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 So part of it is I want to make sure I'm like taking advantage of the opportunity I have here because this is like, I, what, and when I'm 40, I can't expect that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Like, um, and so that's one, and another one is like, it just, for whatever reason, it just is like built in my blood. Like, this is just what I do, like, working is just what I live for.

Speaker 2 And like, I don't really know what else to do with my life. Like, it just, I'm just a machine that goes.

Speaker 2 And if I'm not working on something, like, stimulating and pushing and innovating, I just kind of get depressed. And like, I'm like, why am I alive? What am I doing?

Speaker 1 Who do you get that from? Was you one of your folks, you think?

Speaker 2 No, I've just kind of always been like this. My mom hates it because I don't really celebrate wins or anything.
I just always grinding on things. And

Speaker 2 yeah, I don't know. I think just some people are hardwired like that.
And I think, but I

Speaker 2 think you just got to be who you are. Like that, it just is who I am.
But there's, there's other people who see my lifestyle because I've talked about it on podcasts.

Speaker 2 And, you know, a lot of creators want to be like me. And then they end up scaling up bigger teams and they end up trying to do videos like me.

Speaker 2 And then they end up, they they're find out they're miserable and they fucking hate it and it's too much trash and pressure. And so I wouldn't advise this for most creators, right?

Speaker 2 Like I don't, I don't, like, I don't have work-life balance. I just

Speaker 2 don't work. No, I just, I mean, I'm like, there are some months where, you know, I film 28 days, you know, and I still have to run feastables.
I still do, you know, film 28 days on the main channel.

Speaker 2 And then I, I film for our peaceful anthropology channel. I still film stuff for TikTok because we have over 100 million followers on TikTok and I have to do stuff on Instagram.

Speaker 2 I still have to network and do these things. And

Speaker 2 it's like, I mean, it's basically if my eyes are open, I'm there to work.

Speaker 2 It's like, you know, I have a person whose job is just to help me basically write everything I want to accomplish on a whiteboard.

Speaker 2 I mean, it will take up the size of this wall and it's like all my prials and things I could be doing, things I should be doing, things other people need me to be doing.

Speaker 2 And then, you know, we'll just go in the next seven days, I'll circle all the things I want to do ancillary on top of what naturally I have to do.

Speaker 2 And then he'll just like schedule it basically every second my eyes are open. Right.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 which is good because it helps me. I sometimes fall into a trap of being reactive.
Like, you know, my content, you know, channel needs me to film this. This needs feastables needs me to do this.

Speaker 2 And, but, you know, you're never going to achieve something great if you're just constantly like a ping pong ball being told what you need to do by your employees.

Speaker 2 So occasionally you need to be proactive and do other things that, you know, other people wouldn't think of and be a little bit more of a visionary. So doing that kind of helps.

Speaker 2 make sure I'm prioritizing things correctly and things like that.

Speaker 1 Well, it's interesting because in the beginning, you're kind of working for yourself because you're the creator, but then you build an audience and then you start to work for the audience in a weird way, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And there's no judgment against that, but I just noticed that in my own life in the beginning, like, I'd give anything to have an audience, you know, but it's more like me.

Speaker 1 It felt like me being me, but then it also starts to feel like you, no, now you have the audience. Now you have somebody to work for.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you, you, I, yeah, because you technically couldn't just 180 and like, you know, because if you did, you'd lose your audience.

Speaker 2 And so, yeah, I guess technically you're working, working for them in a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say, what did you learn about being a boss? Like, cause I never wanted to be like have any employees, right? I never even wanted to be an employee.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to have any employees. I wanted to have pizza, you know, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Sounds like the life.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to live in a park.
But what I'm saying is,

Speaker 1 oh, shit, hold on. I know what it is.
I think that what did you learn about yourself, like about being a boss?

Speaker 1 Like, I learned that if I don't show up in a comfortable way, then it affects how my employees are.

Speaker 1 I've learned that I have to communicate better as to what I want because people don't just know what I want.

Speaker 1 There's some things that I've learned, learn them the hard way kind of. Were there things that you've learned just about being a boss?

Speaker 2 Oh, I mean, of course.

Speaker 2 Cause I went from one to, I think now across everything, I employ over 400 people. So full time.
So it's like, yeah, I mean, that when I first started hiring people, I was, I was 19.

Speaker 2 So like, or not, maybe even 18. So I was a teenager with no idea.
I mean, yeah, you asked what I learned. I mean, at the the start, I literally went to, this is how stupid I was when I was a teenager.

Speaker 2 I literally went to a comedy club or whatever, comedy. Tariq, what was it? Comedy? It was just an open mic.
Oh, an open mic. Yeah, Tariq was one of the people I hired there.
It's funny.

Speaker 2 He's still here seven days later or seven years later, but I went to an open mic and I was just like, you know,

Speaker 2 I want my YouTube channel to be a little funnier. So I'm just going to go hire some random comedians out of Open Mic.

Speaker 2 So I just went to one and then I just was like writing on like a notepad every time they, they made me laugh, the comedians and then the the ones that made me laugh the most.

Speaker 2 I just afterwards went backstage and I was like, yo, you want a job? You want to help me make YouTube videos? And that's how I first started hiring.

Speaker 2 And then after that, I went into like my local Best Buy, you know, like the electronic store. This, I mean, it's fucking stupid, but I didn't know what I was doing.

Speaker 2 Like, obviously, if you want to hire people, you should just go. find production people or people with creative experience or whatever, not go into a local Best Buy.

Speaker 2 And I hired like seven people in my local

Speaker 2 electronic store. And so I have like this ragtag group of comedians and this ragtag group of people who sell fucking laptops.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, yo, and mixed in with some people I just hired from my high school. And I'm like, and we're making these videos that are getting views.
And like, I'm scaling up.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, you know, I'm like, guys, let's give my 3 million subscriber 3 million pennies. And they're like, how the fuck do we get 3 million pennies? I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 And we're just like brute forcing shit. And I mean, it was an absolute dumpster fire.
I didn't know what I was doing because I wish. I had a mentor or something.

Speaker 2 But then after a while, I realized, oh, maybe I should hire people who have a little bit of experience in this field, not laptop salesmen and comedians. And

Speaker 2 over time, we kind of, I started to figure it out.

Speaker 1 But you stayed in motion, it sounds like, too, though. Like you kept, you were like, this is how I do it.
I need something funny. I'll go to a place that has funny.

Speaker 1 I need a guy who can, you know, sell refrigerators, but talk about also iPods, right? I'll go to a Best Buy, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Best Buy is the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life. It's pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 Because some of those people are just smoking weed and wearing a shirt. They're not even clocked in.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was like wearing a blue shirt. It was not the high, yeah, the highest quality people.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 One of them ended up being a convicted felon, too. And I didn't even realize that when I hired him, but yeah, so I was just like, oh, you know, Best Buy hired them.
I'm sure they do, they're fine.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
I didn't realize I was supposed to do background checks when I was a teenager. Obviously, we do that now.
But yeah, I made everything. I didn't know how payroll worked or taxes.

Speaker 2 I didn't know, I didn't know what a CFO was or bookkeeping. So it's just like a lot.
And I just had to learn it it through trial and error, but this, we have an audience the whole time.

Speaker 2 So it's not like I can just pause things and then like go, oh, let me just get rid of all these best buying comedians and replace them for real people. So I have to keep filming.

Speaker 2 But these videos we're filming are videos no one's ever done before. So these are really complicated things that are constantly going wrong.

Speaker 2 Like I think back then, like one in three videos I filmed, just like, I didn't like it.

Speaker 2 So I scrapped it or it got fucked up when we were filming it or whatever, because like it was, these are just big spectacles and we just didn't have the team for it. And I was reinvesting everything.

Speaker 2 And like, there was one time where I like, uh,

Speaker 2 I accidentally overspent and we were like negative $200,000.

Speaker 2 Yeah, my mom was like losing her fucking mind. And I was like, it's fine, mom.
I'll just next month, I think we'll make like, you know, 200 grand or whatever.

Speaker 2 And I'll just like spend a little less and we'll dig out of this hole. Like, did she

Speaker 1 hated it? Because she was helping with the finances.

Speaker 2 Well, that, but we just didn't have money growing up. And so, like, like when

Speaker 2 I wanted to, like, when I think one month we made like $100,000 and she was like very adamant. She's like, just put 20% away.
Just let me build a nest egg, this and that.

Speaker 2 And I was like, no, actually, I was thinking of just giving like $100,000 to Twitch streamers. I think that'd be a good video people would like.

Speaker 2 And she's like, she like for 10 hours straight was like, why not give them 80,000? It's like, he's like, and this is where I'm a lot better at communicating now than I was back then.

Speaker 2 I was like, I mean, you're talking like, this is a guy who grew up with pimples, didn't communicate much, sat in his room and fucking worked on YouTube videos and obsessed over, you know, business and entrepreneurship where everyone else just wanted to watch South Park.

Speaker 2 And so I, I didn't relate to anyone. So my social

Speaker 2 skills were negative 10,000. So I was horrible at communicating things.

Speaker 2 So I'd just be like, and like in hindsight, it's kind of obvious, but at the time, like there was a huge language barrier between me and my mom because all that existed in this brain was make the best videos possible, you know, and she didn't fully get that.

Speaker 2 And like, that was, that was it. I was, I was a robot.
That, that, that is what I live for. I was a, I was not a human at that time.

Speaker 2 And so I was just like, if we made a hundred grand, why would I not spend the hundred grand on videos? And she'd be like, put some away.

Speaker 2 And I was like, but if I put it away, I would just spend it on other videos. So why can't I just spend it on videos now? And we would just do that hours every single day.

Speaker 1 You're like, if I put away 20 grand, you know that I'm only going to be able to make 80% of the best video I could make at that time. You always just

Speaker 2 be like, why am I putting the money away? Right.

Speaker 1 I was like, mom, to not make a good video.

Speaker 2 Exactly. I was like, mom, my rent is like $350.

Speaker 2 The car is fine. Yeah.
I was like, why do we need to put it away? And she's, she'd just be like,

Speaker 2 and but, and I also didn't fully realize this, but you know, she would even get trauma to like 2008 when they lost everything and went bankrupt. And so she was like,

Speaker 1 we got to save something. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 But yeah, so that's what would make it intense. And I didn't fully understand it at the time either.
So it would like get her to the point where she would cry because I would reinvest everything.

Speaker 2 And she just like, didn't want what happened to her in 2008 to happen to me. And I just like didn't care.
I understand. I just like,

Speaker 2 wow. Trust me.
Videos. And so that happened.
That was a thing for a very long time. But eventually she got to the point where she's like, you know what? I'll just trust you.

Speaker 2 And that's when, that's when things got great. Cause then like it helped my relationship with her a lot because she started stressing less and she just believes, you know, I got it.

Speaker 1 She's like, Jimmy, you'll figure this out. Exactly.

Speaker 2 And like, Mr.

Speaker 1 Beast, son beast.

Speaker 2 Yeah, when shit happens, she just goes, I know you'll figure it out. I'm like, thanks.
Like, no need for you to cry or freak out. Like, I got this.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Did you ever do something nice for your mom? Something.

Speaker 2 Do do you guys ever go to a concert together or something uh y'all like to do anything together right now i don't really get any time off so i we joke like in 10 years all the things we'll do when like things kind of cool off oh yeah but no we she she gets it she um

Speaker 2 She actually sent me a message like, I think it was like four days ago, like a really long message saying how like she was very grateful that she still gets to work with me and do things with me and how like most people in my position would like push their mom away.

Speaker 2 But we, we do, a lot of our bonding is like doing work stuff and things like that because it's like then it's like something i truly care about you know what i mean like if we went to a concert like she would see through that facade she would know i'm not doing that because i care just doing it to like check a box so but when we work together it's like genuinely fulfilling and it's cool to like she likes to work too yeah well it the stuff she was doing when we're building the business no that was very stressful now we have it to stuff that's a little more chill and where it's fun like you know we have hundreds of employees that have divvy cards and all these things and so we have a lot of bank accounts you know how do you know you know, someone's not just stealing money?

Speaker 2 Yeah, sure. Who else can you trust besides your mom to control the master accounts?

Speaker 2 Because at some point there is a master key of someone who could, I mean, if they wanted to just withdraw a million dollars and just fucking run to Mexico, right?

Speaker 2 You know, so like, that's like a really big thing that I count on my mom just to like manage the accounts and make sure there's no fraud and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 Cause I, I don't fucking know, like, um, and things like that. Um,

Speaker 2 but yeah, it's uh it's been a, it's been a fun journey. And so yeah, I'm very grateful for my mom.

Speaker 2 It's kind of crazy that like moms just put 18 years of their life just pouring everything into building real, yeah, this human.

Speaker 1 And it's a risk, dude. Yeah, like this human.
And most humans look up most humans or whatever.

Speaker 2 Wait, most humans?

Speaker 1 It's you know, it's a shaky business,

Speaker 1 just being a human.

Speaker 2 I know, and then they just unleash you in the wild, and then you just move on. And it's like, it's just wild.
It's really a crazy premise, you know? Yeah, because I'm thinking about how, like,

Speaker 2 you know, when I love to spoil my mom because I'm like, you just like gave everything for 18 years, especially after 2008 and all this stuff, you know, worked multiple jobs just so I could like, at the time, what you thought was just be a brat and work on YouTube videos.

Speaker 2 And you thought, you know, just basically, it almost would have seemed my, my purpose in life was to make you as miserable as possible, yet you kept raising me and didn't give up on me.

Speaker 2 Um, and it's like, so I think of that and then I'm like, fuck, I need to spoil my mom. Yeah.
Cause like, you know, like, I think of a different parallel universe where I'm not in this position.

Speaker 2 It's like, damn, I would never have been able to like repay her for all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Spoiler as much.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
Or spoiler as much.

Speaker 1 There's been recently like in the news and stuff, I'm not as a breadth on it, but there was like, they were trying, it seemed like they were trying to like poke holes in you guys's company and stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But a lot of it,

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 2 there were, I don't know if there was like

Speaker 1 different allegations and stuff against if it was against you or your company, but none of it,

Speaker 1 from what I've seen, there was never, there was never any like

Speaker 1 validity to it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Right.

Speaker 1 Do you believe that there was actually something going on at your company that was bad?

Speaker 1 Or do you believe that other people, like at a certain point, if your company is doing so well that other companies or outside dark interests get upset and try to lead like reporters or create like a negative buzz?

Speaker 1 Is that a crazy question?

Speaker 2 No, no, it's accurate. It's

Speaker 2 the thing is, again, I have hundreds of employees that I employ full-time, but I've also hired hundreds of people in the past.

Speaker 2 And sometimes, like, you know, sometimes we have hundreds of contractors just working on singular videos because the sets are so big. So we work with lots of people.

Speaker 2 It's impossible for there never to be anything negative. You know, that's why you have HR and things like that.
So, no, I mean, it would, it'd be.

Speaker 2 crazy to say there's never been any issues where no one that's ever worked for me has ever been unhappy or you know one employee has never said anything you know dumb to some other employee that made them want to complain or things like that so

Speaker 2 but I think the thing is, it's just obviously completely blown out of proportion. Like, that's not a thing that's just particular to us.

Speaker 2 Any company with hundreds of employees, obviously, there's going to occasionally be something someone says is something that's inappropriate or something that's not ideal.

Speaker 2 But that's where, when we're made aware of it, we obviously have HR look into it, or if it's something serious, we'll bring in an outside third party, have them look into it, and just tell us what to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, and it's weird for you because if something happens at Nike, then it's like there's an issue, there's something that happened at Nike.

Speaker 1 But if something happens at a production company and you are basically the

Speaker 1 business, then a lot of it probably just feels.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like I have people I employ that I've never met in my life. I probably never will.
I mean, because we just have so many people and some of them don't work in my hometown and things like that.

Speaker 2 So yeah, I mean, the answer is like, yeah.

Speaker 2 It's absurd to think that, you know, hundreds of people or sometimes over a thousand when we scale up contractors working together all these hours that there'll never be any issues.

Speaker 2 And yeah, all I can really do is make sure I'm not creating an environment where we're influencing that, which we're doing our best. And like,

Speaker 2 and then when those kinds of things happen, just bring in someone to look into it and just be like, yo, tell me what to do because I'm a fucking YouTuber. You know what I mean? Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, if someone says something like, you know, hey there, darling, or whatever, and then someone, that person feels like that was inappropriate, like, I don't want to be the judge of that.

Speaker 2 I want to, I don't want someone in my company to be the judge of it.

Speaker 1 I want to bring someone in and be like, yo, talk to them, gather the facts, and you tell me what I'm supposed to do, which is what we do and that's all i i really can do you know yeah yeah it would seem like god it would just seem like so much stuff is out of your hands when it's got to be tough when you're a creator you know because you want to be do every you know you kind of want to do everything and have it as a business scales it's kind of tough because you can't you know um

Speaker 1 what else did i want to ask you about oh i wanted to ask you about oh he's got the flash cards sorry dude no no it's cool i went as long as i could

Speaker 1 that's about that was a long for me uh so yeah like you've had like we were talking earlier about like philanthropy. So you had like you've taken plastics out of the ocean, right? You put

Speaker 1 help people with eyesight.

Speaker 1 You put the water, you've done water wells in Africa or Zambia.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, in Africa. In Africa, all across Zambia.
Africa.

Speaker 1 Did you?

Speaker 1 Like, what is, is there like a overall goal of like a big crazy vision you see for the future of like some sort of philanthropic idea?

Speaker 2 For us or just in general?

Speaker 1 yeah just in general it could be anything um

Speaker 2 well the thing i've been focusing most of my time on in that area recently is um so for feastables obviously chocolate is made of cocoa there's a lot of unethical stuff that goes on on cocoa farms i don't know if you're aware of that a lot of child live look i've used yeah it depends on what kind of farms we're talking about but i yeah yeah well there's some definitely yeah in west africa like uh so

Speaker 2 majority of the world's cocoa comes from cote divarian uh it's like i believe like 70 of the world's cocoa.

Speaker 1 Kuntavaravana?

Speaker 2 Cotevar.

Speaker 1 Cotavara.

Speaker 2 Cotevar. Yeah.
Cotevar.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Cotevar.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And then Ghana.
They're on the left side.

Speaker 1 Oh, and Ghana. Cotevar and Ghana.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 Two countries. They're on the left side of Africa.
It's kind of like we're the round part right there. It's like the perfect place to go grow cocoa.

Speaker 2 And so, but 46% of the labor on farms there, which is where almost all the cocoa in the world comes from, is child labor. So it's like pretty, pretty, like just a lot of things going on there.

Speaker 2 And so that's where I've been focusing a lot of my attention because obviously we we need a lot of cocoa for feastables.

Speaker 2 And so we used to get our cocoa from Peru, which ethical sourcing is not as big of a problem over there. We use a lot of family-owned farms and blah, blah, blah.
But the thing is,

Speaker 2 there's not enough cocoa comes from Peru to supply big chocolate.

Speaker 2 And I wanted to show, like, so saying I ethically source my cocoa from Peru doesn't really prove anything because big other chocolate companies will just go, okay, but we can't do that.

Speaker 2 There's not enough cocoa in Peru. So like that doesn't count.
It's not possible to ethically source cocoa in West Africa. So

Speaker 2 and I knew if feastables kept growing, eventually we'd have to switch over there.

Speaker 2 So this past year, we switched our supply chain over there and we've been just working with the, have you ever heard of Tony Shacolone?

Speaker 1 Probably not. Tony Shakalone? Yeah.
No. And is it a real person?

Speaker 2 Well, it's a reporter who went like super deep in exposing like the chocolate industry and chocolate.

Speaker 1 Really interesting guy?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
And then, but and he was like, and no, no chocolate companies would ethically source their cocoa. And he kept exposing them and none of of them were doing it.

Speaker 1 Would he be a cool guest, you think?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, he'd be awesome.

Speaker 1 Wow. It's crazy.
I didn't know there was bad chocolate out there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so he started his own chocolate company to prove that you could ethically source it. And he called it Tony's Chocolate Only because it's the lonely.
Oh, yeah. I've seen those.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Badass Baller Company. And so I've been working with them to figure out how we can also ethically source our chocolate because they're the only ones really doing it.

Speaker 1 Clean cocoa, dude.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So we built a supply chain with them.

Speaker 2 And so like all our farmers for fair trade certified and then we pay our farmers a living income because a big reason why there's child labor is because farmers in West Africa just don't make enough money.

Speaker 2 So it like that is like, if you're to rank the issues, like the number one issue is just income. Like they just can't even afford to hire adults.

Speaker 2 They don't make enough.

Speaker 2 So what they do and what we're doing for feastables is we pay, there's a living income reference price where they basically look at the cost of bread, the cost of living, cost of inflation, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 And they go, if a farmer were to sell you a metric ton of beans, if they don't get paid this number, then they won't be able to make a living income.

Speaker 2 They won't be able to live, which then means they'll be forced to use child labor because if not, it's like they're, that's the only way they'll be able to survive. Right.

Speaker 1 So they need to make have children working.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So they need to make, and I'm paraphrasing this in Mild High stuff, but they need to make this theoretical number, which is living in income reference price.

Speaker 2 And so that's what we guarantee our farmers. So

Speaker 2 if like they theoretically sell us the cocoa, a metric ton of cocoa for less than that, we'll pay a premium on top and be like, no, here's extra money.

Speaker 2 This is what you need to make make so you can actually live.

Speaker 2 But, you know, we don't want child labor on the farm. So we'll, we'll guarantee you you'll make this much, but I don't want to see fucking nine-year-old Timmy on the cocoa farm.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 So that's like the big thing.

Speaker 2 And then we do like, they have farm coaches that, because another way to help farmers make more money is not just pay them more, but it's also help them get more yield out of their farm.

Speaker 2 So they have coaches that will help counsel them and, you know, theoretically try to help them get five or 10% more yield out of the same hectares they have, occasionally give them some supplies it's like very like all about getting it because it's it's an income problem for a lot of them why they're using child child labor like you could go to the farm and be like stop using child labor but if they can't

Speaker 2 survive yeah the family can't eat if the kids don't exactly work yeah so um that's that's been a big journey i actually spent for recently a week in ghana just going through the whole supply chain so i worked on the farm farm you know and then you lay the crack the pods laid out to dry and then saw like the where they dry and then where they store the beans and even how like the government like um does QC on the beans went through the whole thing all the way to the ship just to like so this has been the last year of probably like

Speaker 1 a good fucking chunk of my time has been going to like figuring out ethical sourcing with them because it's it's very like it's very expensive you know so I just want to make sure we're doing it right and um yeah and also that's a way of that's a really a big form of philanthropy itself because you know just teaching these people how to do how to have more success in their own lives i mean that kind of stuff is huge you teach one person in an area and then they can be a leader and teach other people.

Speaker 1 It's like you don't even realize kind of the residue.

Speaker 2 Well, the biggest thing,

Speaker 2 I hope to,

Speaker 2 like, I hope to get it where if Feastables keeps growing, where we can be like, look, we're a big chocolate company and we're ethically sourced and we're profitable.

Speaker 2 So then we can look at other big chocolate companies and go, you have no excuse, right? Right now, they can all just say, it's impossible. You don't understand.

Speaker 2 You know, you don't have scale at companies our size. This is like, this is a fairy tale dream, but because no one's doing it,

Speaker 2 you know, that's actually doing serious revenue.

Speaker 2 So, if we can get to that point where theoretically we're selling a billion dollars a year of chocolate and it's ethically sourced and it's profitable, then like they have no excuse. Exactly.

Speaker 2 And so, like, cause there's over a million kids in child labor and on cocoa farms in West Africa right now.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And like, Feast Worlds itself is not going to be able to get all a million out.

Speaker 2 But if we could theoretically get tens of thousands of kids out of child labor and then use that in my, you know, platform and stuff like this to bully everyone else, then hopefully that can create a snowball that gets hundreds of thousands of kids out of child other.

Speaker 1 Big chocolates going down, boy.

Speaker 2 We'll see. I mean, it's just, I hate Three Musketeers.

Speaker 1 I'll say it out loud. And when people eat them, and I'll say this, when people eat them, I judge them.

Speaker 2 No comment. I don't want to get sued.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying I don't like them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he does not like Three Musketeers.

Speaker 1 And I can say that, can I?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you can say that. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't like them.
I could say I don't like Three Musketeers either. Not because of anything, just I don't like.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. I don't know any of their behaviors.
I don't know what they're doing before they mail it to me or whatever. I don't like it.
I never have liked it. And I don't even believe in it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which is also a way that I feel about it. Like when I open it up, I don't even, I don't even believe in it.
And paydays, the nuts aren't any good in them anymore. And they were better when my own.

Speaker 2 Yeah, paydays, I feel like

Speaker 2 if they had like a little more saltiness, a little more nuts, those things would be the bomb. Yeah, it's, it's a little, the chewy stuff in the middle is just a little too overpowering now.
I agree.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Paydays are like so close to being a phenomenal product.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And the nuts used to be a little more, they had more edges on them. They looked like more nuts.

Speaker 2 I, I, bro, I relate. I had a payday recently, I thought the same thing.
I was like, this like fucking shit in the middle, it's just not, there's no flavor. I want more fucking salt.

Speaker 1 It fell off for me, and I don't know when. My mom used to get them sometimes, it would be like a special thing that she would get, but she would let us watch her eat them.
I'm going to tell you this:

Speaker 1 did you, do you have you ever dealt with, like, you're so big on YouTube? Do you ever deal with sanctions and stuff on there? Have you had to deal with that? Is that a conversation you have with them?

Speaker 1 Sanctions? Like, or do you, or they say, like, you can't do certain things?

Speaker 2 Like, do you have to like submit all your videos and like go through a process like that um well can we even talk about that or no yeah we can talk about the the conspiracy theorists are going to run away with this but a lot of uh there's uh when there's like um a higher ad pl uh what is it when you get bigger there's like a google preferred or whatever where it's like uh for bigger advertisers like coke or whatever like premium advertisers they want to make sure they're not advertising on you know, bad content.

Speaker 2 So like for bigger channels, YouTube, if they'll review your video before it goes up, just to make sure it's it's clean and you're not just like saying Hitler a thousand times

Speaker 2 to make sure it's good for bigger advertisers. So they review it for that, but they do that for, I believe, thousands of creators right now, which, you know, but you don't have to do that.

Speaker 2 It just helps you get higher ad rates. But no, I mean, I just post whatever.
They don't know what I'm doing or anything. And

Speaker 2 they're pretty chill.

Speaker 1 Do you think they're in a tough position?

Speaker 2 With what?

Speaker 1 Just like having to set up parameters for different videos and like the effect that it could have on certain people and that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 Like, I think, I always always just think about it from my perspective.

Speaker 1 I'm always like, well, we're upset, you know, sometimes like, oh, they'll make us take a joke or this joke or this sort of thing. They may not, you know.

Speaker 2 Well, the thing is, they're not making you take it out. They're just saying, if you don't take it out, you won't get higher ad rates.
That's a good point.

Speaker 2 Think of any brand that spends a billion dollars a year on marketing. That's them saying, hey, YouTube, if they, here's, if any of these things are in a video, we don't want to be on it.

Speaker 2 And YouTube's just going, hey, take this out, or we can't put these premium ads on you, which I think makes perfect sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Sometimes I only look at it from my perspective.
I'm not able to look at it from like, oh, also, this is a platform where they allow us to to put our stuff up. Exactly.

Speaker 1 And then, so they also are trying to do business as well. You know, um,

Speaker 1 what else do we have here? We're almost done.

Speaker 2 I mean, we can keep going. I'm having fun.

Speaker 1 You don't drink, right?

Speaker 2 I've maybe drank like five times in my life. I don't like the way it makes me feel.

Speaker 1 It's like, is it out of control that it makes you feel, you think?

Speaker 2 No, it just like. Well, so I didn't drink alcohol until I was like 23 or 24.
I wanted to stay the fuck away from it because I have a very addictive personality.

Speaker 2 So my goal is to go my entire life without ever drinking alcohol.

Speaker 2 But then I was like with Logan Paul one time, or I was at it, I was at a casino

Speaker 2 gambling. And then Logan Paul was there.
And then he was like, let's hang out. And then was it a UFC fight or something? I don't even remember.

Speaker 2 It might have been like Floyd Mayweather versus Connor McGregor or something. Oh, yeah.
I don't know. But so I was like, okay, let's, we can gamble together.

Speaker 2 And then we're walking to like the tables and he stops by a club. He's like, let's just go in here.
It'll be one minute. I was like, oh my God, I fucking hate clubs.
They're so boring.

Speaker 2 So I go in there. One minute turns into like two hours.
And I'm just just so fucking bored. And I just caved.
I was like, okay, I need to just drink.

Speaker 2 And I'd never drank in my life, but I'm like, something. I need something.
I'm dying.

Speaker 1 And a lot of people need to drink to me.

Speaker 2 So that's what I like. That was the time I did it.
And then I was just like, oh, I just kind of like feel weird, but it's not a happy weird. It's just like, this is, I, I just don't like it.

Speaker 2 They don't dig it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I think people, I think it's getting less and less popular in the world, kind of, especially with like younger generation. It's just like, they just think it's kind of dumb.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It just, I don't know.
It, I, I, I don't know how to describe it it's like

Speaker 2 it just makes me feel stupid and like but not a good stupid it's not like a happy stupid it's like it's just dumb like it's a waste of time yeah i've definitely i've done a lot of that um in july you tweeted if you were to lower the age for president that you might run um

Speaker 2 do you still think that ever um no no no i i mean I might when I'm older, but not

Speaker 2 if they lowered it, that was mostly a joke just because I knew people would freak the fuck out and talk about it. And it worked.

Speaker 2 But I would, if I were to,

Speaker 2 it would probably be like when I'm like 50 or 60, because I would need to like, accomplish everything I want in business and stuff, and then probably take like 10 years.

Speaker 2 And I'd have to go be like, uh, do something at the local level and then the state level and work my way up. But yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 1 But there could be potentially a president beast. You never know.
Oh, yeah. 100%.
You never know, especially after you learn a lot.

Speaker 1 Do you, has Elon ever reached out to you to do something cool together? Because I mean, you guys, at a certain point, you guys are both like

Speaker 1 pioneers in certain schools of thought and certainly creative folks.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, he's pioneering taking us to Mars, electric cars, talking with your phone through your brain, digging tunnels, fixing traffic, you know, getting rid of a trillion dollars of waste in the government now, and this and that.

Speaker 2 And I'm pioneering

Speaker 2 funny videos.

Speaker 2 I don't know if I put those in, but

Speaker 2 kidding. But he, yeah, we bumped into each other at the Super Super Bowl, said hi.
Um,

Speaker 2 I, I, I don't even, I think he asked me, do, do, do I think people call it, call X Twitter still or do people call it X? And I was like, yeah,

Speaker 2 most people call it Twitter, I've noticed. He's like, interesting.
I think that was kind of like the gist of it. Yeah.
And then, um, but outside of that, no, not really. I mean, I've been talks with.

Speaker 2 People at SpaceX and we've been cooking ideas and things like that, but not Elon himself. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we tried to ask if we could interview those um the two people stuck up in that oh my gosh that'd be crazy I wanted to be the first one because people are like who you want to get on your podcast and like anybody and I was trying to think who could you not get him like oh somebody's not on earth yeah that's who you got to get yeah that would be somebody who's just loitering or whatever you know and um I love how they're not aliens but yeah it's like all right do you think you could get Elon on here one day do you think

Speaker 1 maybe yeah they just they offered to send me a starlink if I want to get one so I might get one are you using them oh yeah starlink's amazing.

Speaker 2 Bro, when you're in fucking Zambia in the middle of nowhere, it's the only way. It's Starlink in Antarctica was amazing.
Like Antarctica, you're in the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 2 And I mean, literally the furthest from human civilization on the planet. And yeah, you can get internet.
It was such a phenomenal product.

Speaker 1 Did you see anything cool, like unique? Because a lot of people say Antarctica that they're hiding secret stuff up there, that there's that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Antarctica.

Speaker 2 You should go to Antarctica at some time in your life. It is.

Speaker 1 Oh, I would love to go up there if I was up there.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 there's like uh,

Speaker 2 there's you go to South America, and then you get on a Boeing 747, like an actual like commercial plane, you go to South America, yeah, you go all the way to like the very bottom of Chile because Antarctica at the bottom, yeah, yeah, um, and then uh, you board like a commercial plane, like you're flying like fucking Delta here, and it just starts flying, and you just you fly over the ocean, and then you see just this just endless abyss of white snow and mountains, and you just keep flying deeper and deeper and deeper into it.

Speaker 2 And then you just see this just fucking ice runway. I mean, it's the sketchiest thing you'll ever see in your life.
And it just lands this commercial airliner there.

Speaker 2 I had no idea of any of this going into it. I kind of went into it pretty raw.
And you get off. It's just this janky little like ladder thing type E.

Speaker 2 It's, they, no, yeah, go down one image right there. That one, click on it.
Cause they have to brush all the snow off. Yeah, that's what you land on.
Wow. Just ice.
And then

Speaker 2 that's not the one we went to, but then there's just this research facility where there's like three big tents that researchers work out of.

Speaker 2 And then there's like a hundred tents that they all live out of.

Speaker 1 So there's no actual terminal?

Speaker 2 No, because they're it like, so the time we're, it's like sun 24-7, but then there's like these intense winters, like three or four months a year where it's like dark and you can't be there.

Speaker 2 So they have to pack everything up and leave. You can't leave anything behind.
So it's like a temporary thing.

Speaker 2 And so we get out and there's all these researchers doing experiments and cool shit. And I'm just like, hey, I'm here to film a video.

Speaker 2 So, and then a snowstorm. So, we were supposed to just be there for like two days or three days or whatever, but a snowstorm hits.

Speaker 2 So, what we were going to do is just go out in a random direction and then just set up a camp in the middle of nowhere in Antarctica and try to survive for 50 hours. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 But there was an intense snowstorm. So, we're just, we had to sit in these research facilities and wait them out.

Speaker 2 And one of them was so crazy. It's like this.

Speaker 2 uh tent with like door and it like flew the door flung it open it was so intense that we had to like tie like hold the door shut because it's like like, barely snowing.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, my God, I think we're gonna die. Like, it was crazy.
They're like, we haven't had a storm like this in a while.

Speaker 2 And like, uh, you have like all these little tents that you live in and like the big communal tents for the, where everyone hangs out and stuff.

Speaker 2 And the little tent, like, we had to build like actual snow walls around our tent because there's so much wind blowing that like our tents would have got swept away.

Speaker 2 So we had to, I had to barricade the, I'm like, this is just a normal thing. They're like, yeah, that's just what happens.

Speaker 2 And so you're like building a wall around your, your, you know metal pole reinforced tent that you're gonna sleep in um and like when the winds would pick up at night i'm i'm like it's like is my tent just gonna fly off like and there's nowhere to run to yeah you just run to the bigger tent but it's like it was crazy you know and also in antarctica bro it's like you can't pee or shit in the snow or anything like because you can't leave anything behind like that's massively illegal and so everything

Speaker 2 all your waste and stuff you have to store and carry and hold and that kind of stuff fly back with it uh well they they will but you'll just put it it in like a piss tank where they'll hold on to it and the shit in the shit bag that they like, this big shit thing they had.

Speaker 2 Um, but also, you get snowblindness because there's everything's white and the sun reflects, so you have to wear glasses when you go outside, or it'll literally blind you, which was like that was crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, imagine, first of all, you're almost blind, can't shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, uh, well, so you wear these like tinted glasses,

Speaker 1 but bro, but it's like you're 80 years old.

Speaker 2 It's so beautiful, though. It's like crazy to just see, you're just in the middle of nowhere.
It feels like you're on a different planet.

Speaker 2 And it was like, sometimes you just walk outside and you just walk in a direction. You just see nothing anywhere.
And it was

Speaker 1 a zoo or anything like that?

Speaker 2 No, there's nothing. Is there anything?

Speaker 1 No roads or nothing, huh?

Speaker 2 No, there's literally nothing there. I mean, and like, so after the snowstorm calmed down, we just went out, like got on these like little skis or things,

Speaker 2 went far away. But this is where it gets scary because there's crevasses and ravines and things like that.
So you could be walking and then just fall 100 feet and die, right?

Speaker 2 Because there's like the snow could have like slightly piled up over like a hundred foot gap in between the ice or things like that.

Speaker 2 So you have to have like this device go out in front of you that checks to make sure there's not just like a giant hole you're going to fall in. You have to mark everything.

Speaker 2 So we go out in this random direction. scan everything.
And then we scanned like this little like 100 foot square foot perimeter, put up flags.

Speaker 2 And it's like, guys, if you walk across those flags, there's a chance you'll fucking die. So, boys, stay within this unless we scan more areas.

Speaker 2 And then, yeah, we just started setting up tents, raw dogging it in the middle of nowhere Antarctica, far away from the research facilities. And it was, it was a fucking awesome experience.

Speaker 2 And then there's this mountain that no one had any records of someone climbing. So we climbed this pretty tall mountain.
And so I got to name it,

Speaker 2 which I named it Shopify because they sponsored the video and helped make the whole thing happen. But so, but like, it was crazy, man, climbing up this mountain.

Speaker 2 And I just, I had no idea how we did that. I, it was, it was, can you pull it up? Just like go to the 50 hours in the Antarctica?

Speaker 1 Uh, is it nice? Like, and there's no people, there's not like Antarctican, you can't go to a bar, nothing, there's nothing.

Speaker 2 No, there's literally nothing. Like, this, there's research facilities.

Speaker 1 So, do you think there's crazy stuff going on down there? Like, they say there's a lot of, uh,

Speaker 2 no, I don't think there's anything. I didn't, I, yeah, that's you look at that.
Wow, it's fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we were deep in there,

Speaker 1 And it's super cold, huh?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it depends on the time.

Speaker 2 Well, so the problem is like when you move around and you have so many layers, you start to heat up and then you take the clothes off and then you get really cold. Yeah, see, look where we went to.

Speaker 1 Is there a chance that at one point it was thawed out and it was a normal land and we'll be able to explore it one day and we just don't know or that's complete nothing?

Speaker 2 Well, there's uh, it's not straight, like those are real rocks and stuff. So it's ice on top of stuff.
So yeah, there is land. Um, and it is crazy that oh my god, bro.

Speaker 2 Yeah, look at that snowstorm we got hit with. So this is after we left the research facility.
And now we're going to set up camp.

Speaker 2 And like, yeah, those are the goggles you have to wear to not go blind.

Speaker 1 And then right here is where. It's like a human iditarod kind of.
Oh, that's the island? That's the mountain you named?

Speaker 2 No, no, no. That's just black mountain.
Yeah, the mountain's behind us over there.

Speaker 2 And then this is us setting up our tents and just, I mean, we're just a bunch of stupid kids. I don't, I don't know how we pulled this off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could have lost a kid easy.

Speaker 2 Obviously, we had a safety expert there, but yeah, but obviously that's it then just skip ahead like to towards the end where you see me climbing up the mountain it's probably it yeah i don't know maybe after this or before i just wanted to see or yeah and that's just an ice

Speaker 2 thing you're in yeah keep going to the left

Speaker 2 no that's a the tent but it's metal reinforced yeah to the right a little bit yeah right there just hit it uh

Speaker 2 right click a couple or double tap yeah so look at this right here this is us climbing up the mountain look at those views

Speaker 2 it's

Speaker 2 gnarly

Speaker 1 shopify.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I did an ad read. I was like, what's the most interesting time I can do an ad read? And I was like, where people wouldn't click off? I was like, you know, well, I'm climbing this mountain.

Speaker 2 It'll probably be more interesting.

Speaker 1 Do you think you'll get to do a video with Kim Jong-un ever?

Speaker 2 I mean.

Speaker 1 Like a game show to help some of his citizens?

Speaker 2 I feel like they would think it's Western propaganda. I don't think they would let me.
You know, when I first started uploading in China,

Speaker 2 they were like, they called me like a American capitalist or whatever, whatever I post my, like, we posted some of our videos that like, uh, got views. They're like, this American, yo, capitalist.

Speaker 2 So we start, so I stopped posting the videos where we give away money and just more like the challenge videos. And then they're like, oh, this is cool.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 1 they just don't like the money as the goal.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 They don't want to inspire. They don't want their people to see that.

Speaker 2 I don't know what the logic was, but I just noticed that a lot in the comments. So I was like, okay, let me just switch up what I'm posting over here.

Speaker 1 What do you watch on TV, man? You watch anything?

Speaker 2 What am I watching?

Speaker 2 I'm about to start Penguin.

Speaker 2 That HBO show. I haven't started that yet.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I haven't seen that yet either.

Speaker 2 I was on the list for tonight.

Speaker 2 Honestly, I'm watching Beast Games. Like, I probably watched that episode we watched earlier a hundred times.

Speaker 1 To give still notes on it, think about it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, notes, but I've also... Now I just get enjoyment out of watching other people watch it because that episode's mostly locked, but I'm like.
So good, man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I've watched like maybe 30 people watch it. So it's like my, my like, uh, guilty pleasure is just watching like what other people watch my show.

Speaker 1 So that's it's awesome. And to know that it's more for adults, it's like you still, I think you're right.
I think you were perfectly right. Like when you think about Mr.
Beast, it's like.

Speaker 2 you you there's a part of you that still thinks part of it's for children and it is for children yeah but it's also for everyone but beast games is definitely for everyone i mean it's the most aged up mature stuff we've ever done and i just i just can't wait man because we spent over a year working on that.

Speaker 2 I told you how much money we spent on it. It was so much time and effort.

Speaker 2 And like the YouTube videos you make and then you upload two months later, to sit on this for so long and we have 10 episodes of it filmed, it's like, just to put it out in the world just

Speaker 2 fucking awesome. God fucking damn it.
I can't wait.

Speaker 1 So that's something that excites you just to see people see it?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, I'm so excited.
I'm so, because.

Speaker 2 Most people have no idea what it is than the ones that are going to watch it. And they're just, I feel like their minds are just going to be so fucking blown.

Speaker 1 he told me everybody's on their own individual platform and how many platforms were there a thousand towers yeah

Speaker 2 that's crazy bro yeah i had to build a thousand of those and then a thousand high uh well we need a three thousand hype uh hydraulic presses or whatever they're called to open them and uh 3 000 hydraulics and it's like to build those and then a thousand foam pits and a thousand crash pads and then we had to rig up a thousand lightings and a thousand gopros and then to build all that and then the screens on the side and i mean even just five million dollars of real money having that there there and all that stuff and then building the sets it's and that's just one of the 10 episodes you know what i mean so we had to do that 10 times built a fucking city name one show who has just gone okay this field build enough housing for 500 people build a sports facility build two massive five-story towers build a helipad build this build that build that and make it look good and a wall yeah closest thing i can think is that angola prison rodeo have you ever heard of that it's down in um no outside of baton rouge i mean it's not like what you're talking about but it's like they put on a pretty good event once a year down there and the prisoners are do the rodeo and wait what yeah the angola prison rodeo angola prison pretty awesome if you're into that kind of stuff but yeah you would probably you would definitely be able to do this way better but just letting you know there's a little bit of competition out there

Speaker 2 Wait, so those are prisoners?

Speaker 1 Yep, they put them all in this circle, right? And if you leave the circle, they send the bulls through. And if you leave the circle, you lose, right?

Speaker 2 And what do the prisoners get out of it?

Speaker 1 I think they get like a time with a basketball or something. I don't know what the prize is.
I'll have to look and see what the prizes are.

Speaker 2 It's crazy. What?

Speaker 2 He's staying in there.

Speaker 1 And this is.

Speaker 2 He really wants that prize. Right.

Speaker 1 But yeah, just to let you know, so there is a little competition out there.

Speaker 1 Have you ever seen the last question halfway? You ever seen that show Hands on a Hard Body? You ever see that movie? No.

Speaker 2 Wow. Hands on a Hard Body.

Speaker 1 There was a car.

Speaker 1 Somebody went to a mall.

Speaker 2 Oh, that one.

Speaker 2 The documentary, yeah. I haven't seen it, but I've heard of the Last Take Canoff Car Keeps It type thing.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. I've seen a clip of that on TikTok.

Speaker 1 And they all have their hand on a hard body. The original one is great.
Oh, there's a musical now? That's hilarious. Yeah.
And the guy's like, nothing getting me to take my hand off, but he's gone.

Speaker 2 We did Last Take Hand Off Lamborghini. He keeps it.
He did? Yeah. With 50 people.

Speaker 1 Well, this is how somebody trumped, somebody walked up and was like, hey, you want this chocolate bar? And a guy like, I would love it.

Speaker 2 And he took it with both hands.

Speaker 1 Damn. Who takes a chocolate bar off somebody with both hands?

Speaker 2 And and he made a mistake and he lost yeah so we we did one too where we put took a million dollars in cash had people put their hands on it um

Speaker 2 and i think one of the four people i don't remember but like because after like 18 hours you start to like

Speaker 2 you know and you're not 100 to 100 focused i think he just like reached to grab something and then was like oh shit and lost a million dollars They say that the world will be changed by individuals and humans.

Speaker 1 And sometimes you start to think that that's not going to happen, you know, that people are going to expect a government to do it.

Speaker 1 But then I think you meet somebody like you and you're like, wow, anything is maybe possible, man. I think that's kind of like a feeling that I really got spending time with you today, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, thanks for sharing your new show with me. And is it tough for you to like, so if you have, if you spend so much time working and

Speaker 1 would it like is relationship something that's hard for you to navigate? I know you said you have a relationship.

Speaker 1 Is that a tough thing for you to drop in and also be like a regular person? Like, cause I'll notice I'll invite a girl over and then I'll sit there and do work.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, that's relationships, just even outside of of dating have always been a problem for me because like, I,

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 2 this might have been a traumatic experience because I still picture it to this day and occasionally have dreams of it.

Speaker 2 But I remember when I was like 15 or 16, like, cause I'm so obsessed with YouTube. I remember like at lunch one time, like one

Speaker 2 person literally just looked me dead in the eyes and said, do you know how to talk about anything besides fucking YouTube? And I, that like, and I was like, whoa.

Speaker 2 And I, like, and then I was like, okay, I'm going to not talk about YouTube. And then, so I just didn't talk.
Like, and like at one point, someone unironically asked me if I was mute.

Speaker 2 Like, cause I was just like, in my head, I was like, well, people think I talk about YouTube too much. And I don't know anything else besides YouTube.
And so I just didn't know what to do.

Speaker 2 And it was like very like traumatic for me because I was so fucking obsessed with it growing up. And the problem is, though, right.
And back then, I thought, okay, I'm a freak of nature.

Speaker 2 I'm the problem. And I tried to, I tried to watch South Park.
And I think it's a good show, but I just didn't find it interesting.

Speaker 2 And, um, and my like opportunity cost brain back then was like, no, I need to be working. This is blah, blah, blah.
And so I just never related to anyone.

Speaker 2 I thought it was because I'm a freak and it's all me, me, me.

Speaker 2 But then I, as I, when I was like 18 or 19 and I got a little smarter, I realized, no, it's just in my school, there just weren't people who were interested in the same things as me.

Speaker 2 And so I was like, that's, but it is what it is. I don't need to change who I am.
I just need to change the people around. And that was like a big turning point for me.
Wow.

Speaker 2 And so, no, I don't struggle with the relationships.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, if you just put me in a room with

Speaker 2 someone who doesn't, isn't trying to achieve anything or doesn't want to do anything extraordinary and just wants to play video games and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't relate to them.

Speaker 2 I'd, I'd, it'd be a struggle. Um, but you put me in a room with someone who is building a business and trying to do something cool.
Like, I mean, we could probably talk for 10 hours straight.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? So it's just all who you're around. It's just those people are pretty rare and you, you don't stumble into them.

Speaker 2 You have to be very diligent to like have those kind of people in your life.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, that, that, just putting myself around the right kind of people has helped like crazy. And my current girlfriend, she's amazing.

Speaker 2 She understands that like, you know, growing the channel and making great content. And right now with feastables, because we're trying to build an ethical supply chain.

Speaker 2 So I'm doing this on fucking steroid hard mode and all these other things I'm trying to do. It's like, it's not easy.
And like, you know, she. gets it.

Speaker 2 You know, like, there are just some days where I won't be able to come home.

Speaker 2 There are just some days where, you know, I'm going to film for 16 hours and I'm going to, I will come home and I don't even know if my eyes will be open.

Speaker 2 Like I'm going to come home and just pass out because it was so intense. And so it's great.
Like, and we, we communicate really well and, and that kind of stuff. And I'm very happy.
Um,

Speaker 1 but yeah, I guess that's kind of the gist. Like, did you have to say, like, will you sub, can I subscribe to your heart or something like that? Like, did you?

Speaker 2 No, I, um, it's actually nice, though, because one thing I've found is, um, because we're not robots, you do have to take time off, even though I hate that. You, you can't work all the time.

Speaker 2 And so I found that in the past, I would just like, if I went eight days, like really hard or nine days, like sometimes I could get it to 10 or 12 in a row, I would just like wake up and just feel like shit and crash.

Speaker 2 And I need to like watch an anime or something to like decompress and blah, blah.

Speaker 2 But I found like, if I consistently spend time with my girlfriend, I don't like boil up to this point where I'm so stressed and I need to crash.

Speaker 2 I'm losing my mind at borderline and have a mental breakdown. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I kind of navigate it a little bit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like, you know, because then I get these like decompression shots when I hang out with her more consistently because it's like, you know, when you just go home alone to an empty bed, it's like, what do you do besides just sit there and think about work but if you have this beautiful woman you're like oh this is cool let's talk about things and it's like helps you like take your mind off work so i've noticed that's been a good uh benefit is like i don't i just don't have like borderline mental breakdowns as often yeah

Speaker 1 so yeah connection some you got to connect with people and it puts you in a little bit better better place and yeah yeah it's important um uh Jimmy, thanks so much, man.

Speaker 1 Thanks for spending time, dude. I'm definitely a fan.
I, you know, yeah, I'd love to chat again sometime about business or something. And, you know, it's funny, you meet people.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you think they're, they're heroes or they're great. And sometimes once you learn about them, it's kind of like whatever, you know,

Speaker 1 they were better to see from afar.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry that I was better from afar to let you down. No.
Maybe next time.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, that's not the case, man. I'm excited.
Yeah, I'm excited for everybody to see Beast Games.

Speaker 2 Are you ever doing a show in North Carolina?

Speaker 1 If they're children or adults, yeah, man, we'll come over there for sure. I'll invite you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, if you do a show in North Carolina, we'll be there.

Speaker 1 I'll invite you to one. Thanks so much for all the content and entertainment.
I'm excited to see what you do in the future, man. I think you inspire a lot of people.

Speaker 2 It's so nice. I hate getting complimented.

Speaker 1 No, but I think it's just like anything is possible. I agree.
I hate fucking getting.

Speaker 2 I'm going to start complimenting you. This podcast was amazing.
You had great questions. It was very free-flowing.

Speaker 2 I thought, you know, sometimes you just go on a podcast and it's an absolute shit show, but this one wasn't. And I think you're very exceptional at what you do.

Speaker 2 Your vernacular is very good. And I just really loved your shoes and how you did things.
And I thought your squad was pretty good. They're very welcoming.
You made sure I had two cans of Celsius.

Speaker 2 That was awesome. And just all around a good environment and everything.

Speaker 1 Thanks, man.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 we'll see about that. Mr.
Beast. See,

Speaker 2 am I the only one? All right, to close it on this, am I the only one that feels uncomfortable when people talk about you like that?

Speaker 1 Oh, I can't. It makes me really uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 I can't wait for them to get done saying

Speaker 2 nice. And I've had to train myself to just sit there and take it because I used to always change the subject and it would make it even more uncomfortable because and kind of awkward.

Speaker 2 So now I've just like practiced like

Speaker 2 doing this because before I noticed my default would always just be to these people start complimenting and I just change the subject instantly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, me too. I'll be like, oh, that's sweet of you to say we should go outdoors.
That's what I'll say.

Speaker 2 Yeah, or I'd be like, yeah, interesting. Anyways, so what?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, it's very sweet of you.
I was wondering the other day if the Jets will win anything this year. And people were like, what are we even?

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's gotten, yeah, sometimes you navigate a little bit better as time goes on, you know.

Speaker 2 Is this brand also paying?

Speaker 1 Nope, I just like their water.

Speaker 2 Wait, so Celsius had to pay.

Speaker 2 These guys got it for free.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But we'd like to get a water.
My goal one day is to make a water.

Speaker 2 Let's see if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 This is my goal to make a water, right? I'm going to have a hat, like a

Speaker 1 wellness facility for people recovering from addiction, right? Okay. And it's on land that has an aquifer so they can access water.
And the people that are getting well are helping to create like.

Speaker 2 So you employ the people with addiction so you get them out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yep.
And then the water gets sold and the money goes to the facility. Yeah.
So it's like, because so many people have been ruined by addiction that our government supported, right?

Speaker 1 Or didn't really combat, like an opioid epidemic. So I'm like, well, how do you beat them and you get something that everybody needs that's clean for people, which is water.

Speaker 1 And then every time they drink, buy it, they're helping somebody get clean, you know?

Speaker 2 Or what if you give them drugs and they go sell drugs and then they just put their addiction to good use?

Speaker 2 Oh, I see what you're talking about. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I feel like that'd do better.
Because they probably know the drug landscape and other addicts really well.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a good point. You're kind of putting them in a whole new territory, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 I feel like just lean into what they're good at. They're a drug addict, just let them sell drugs.

Speaker 1 You know what? We'll try both. We'll try both, you know,

Speaker 2 and we'll get some. We'll get some.
All right, he's been trying to end this for like five minutes. All right, bye.

Speaker 2 Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be

Speaker 2 cornerstone.

Speaker 2 Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it

Speaker 2 in my bones

Speaker 2 But it's gonna take

Speaker 2 a little

Speaker 2 bit