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Speaker 1 They didn't play well one step forward, two, three, or four steps back.
Speaker 2 They have no divine right to be anything other than just another team in the Premier League.
Speaker 2
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Speaker 1 LD, my man, what's happening? Wow.
Speaker 1 Listen, we're going to start off by talking some travel. Because you know what? I think both of us were traveling this week.
Speaker 2 Yes, we were.
Speaker 1 Let me just say, for my sins, I was in Orlando.
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You'd never get me to Orlando unless my wonderful, amazing daughter was playing soccer, which she was. I was down there watching her ODP games.
And
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yeah, didn't do a lot. Stayed in my hotel room because Orlando is not my place.
Sorry about it.
Speaker 2 I'm going to apologize to all of our fans ahead of time in Orlando and also New Orleans, where I was. Also, not my favorite place.
Speaker 2 I went to New Orleans one time for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 2 And I was down there at like 6 a.m. the morning after down on Bourbon Street.
Speaker 2 And they had this
Speaker 2 machine,
Speaker 2 this vehicle, and they have this hose.
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And they go down the street and they literally just hose all the crap that's been sitting there all night in the gutters and the drains. And I was like, this is so disgusting, dude.
It was so gross.
Speaker 1 So what were you doing in New Orleans?
Speaker 2 I had a speaking engagement. Actually, I did a really cool, there's a
Speaker 2 really bizarre, but an insurance company called We the People put on this event every year. And like, insurance is just boring by nature, right? But, like, it was so exciting.
Speaker 2
These people were so into it. They were partying all weekend.
And so, I came in and did a keynote speaking. Oh, I love it.
It was really fun, actually.
Speaker 1 There's a recording of this.
Speaker 2
No, it was fun. All right, guys.
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Big news on the weekend, Tim, Saturday. We're going to start with US LNT on US MNT, US played Venezuela.
I would say overall,
Speaker 2 solid result. People don't know how difficult it is to be fit and get through 70, 80, 90 minutes after only training for two weeks in preseason.
Speaker 2 So I thought overall, it was a really solid performance by the team. I think Pochatino will be pretty happy.
Speaker 2 Big standout for me, Jack McGlynn.
Speaker 2 He's interesting. Here in San Diego, about, God, it must have been six or seven years ago, I went to a
Speaker 2 U.S. under 17 like identification camp.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 2 And I remember seeing Jack, he was one of the names there and he was the Eastern Region whatever guys.
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And I remember seeing him there and I was like, God, he's talented, but he seems like he's kind of frail, thin. I don't know if he's going to make it.
Click to the last few years.
Speaker 2 This kid's been on a pretty meteoric rise and he capped it with a great performance on Saturday.
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Yeah, he's a player caught my eye over the summer. And I just think he's...
you know, he's kind of got that X factor.
Speaker 1 And just because you have, you know, you know this, just because you have talent doesn't mean like you're going to make it, right? You've got got to, you've got to rise through the ranks.
Speaker 1 You've got to take your lumps, but he seems to be doing it in a good way. And every time he features, you know, he leaves you wanting more.
Speaker 1 He leaves you feeling like, okay, there's growth here, right? And I think that's, you know, that's the biggest, that's the biggest takeaway when you look at young players.
Speaker 1 It's like, we know young players are going to kind of stumble and the great performance is going to be few and far between. You almost give them a little bit of license for that, but
Speaker 1 you want to see growth. And
Speaker 1 I think he's got a lot of positivity in his game. I like his confidence.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 2 He's like a little brash,
Speaker 2 cocky.
Speaker 2 What you need.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I think you need that. You know, I've often said, you know,
Speaker 1 I label the
Speaker 1 people all shucks guys. Like guys who are just kind of like all shucks,
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they don't make it to an elite level. You've got to have arrogance and brashness to go on the field and think that you're the best.
Like that's just, that's the nature of it. But I thought overall,
Speaker 1 you know, we've talked,
Speaker 1 we've talked tirelessly about what January camp means. And I think overall, it's, you talked about it, fitness.
Speaker 1 Can you keep your fitness, try and get through 60, 70, 90 minutes, put in a good performance, win the game, not take too many injuries.
Speaker 1 And ultimately, you have more time with the manager and the manager has more time with you. So I think
Speaker 1 3-1, great victory, but ultimately success in the game.
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Yeah. So we said last week, I said last week, there will be two or three guys that you start to recognize in this camp.
And if you're a U.S.
Speaker 2 national team fan, but not really an MLS diehard, you would have shown up and said, oh, it's Jack McLynn's all right.
Speaker 2 And there will be two or three guys who come out of nowhere and just keep your eye on him, right?
Speaker 2 If he maybe gets another opportunity and does well, and then next thing you know, you can end up on a World Cup roster. So speaking of his brashness, there was an interesting moment with the penalty.
Speaker 2 So Matco
Speaker 2
Milovich. Miljovich? Milhevich.
And Milhovic. Yep.
Speaker 2 There's a penalty in the game, if you didn't see it. So he and Jack McGlynn get into a little tussle over it.
Speaker 2 And ultimately, Jack McGlynn loses out
Speaker 2 and
Speaker 2 Milhavich
Speaker 2 ends up missing the penalty, right? And
Speaker 2
I got to tell you, Tim, I absolutely hate when this happens. First of all, I hate, hate, hate this.
I've always always hated it when guys fight over a penalty. Yeah.
Because, and I'll tell you why.
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What is the ultimate goal of a soccer game? To win the game. Yeah, yeah, of course.
Right. To win the game.
Speaker 2 So I could care less if my grandma or grandpa take the penalty, just put it in the net and let's win the game. Now, I took penalties a lot, but I couldn't care less.
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Like sometimes I gave him to Robbie Keene. Sometimes I gave him to Clint Dempsey.
It didn't matter. Just let's just score the goal.
And I hate that. And this is why I hate goal bonuses too.
Speaker 2 I hate it because guys are like, oh, I got six grand writing on this. I'm going to steal the ball.
Speaker 2 I just hate it. And I'll just say, Pochatinos did a great job.
Speaker 2 He said after the game, we didn't say anything about who would take the penalty in case we had one, but it was good because I think the argument showed the character. I mean, he was protecting guys.
Speaker 2
Sure. But your job as a coach is to tell someone you're taking the penalty.
You have to because this situation is really ugly. I think it's really ugly.
I just, I hate it.
Speaker 1
Yeah, well, I've looked, I got strong feelings on this. I think, and I've seen it in my own teams, it's idiotic.
It's idiotic. And it's an oversight
Speaker 1 in the game plan and preparation because
Speaker 1 with all of the set pieces and all of the details in terms of tactics, in the best teams and all the teams I've played on,
Speaker 1 before you go out or in the team talk, it's
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you're on penalties. And if you're not on the pitch or if you've taken a knock, That's right.
The second person's on penalties. That's it.
Speaker 1 There's no discussion. And oftentimes, when there is is a tussle like that, then the manager after I've had this happen, then the manager's like, okay,
Speaker 1
we're sitting and deciding who our penalty taker is. Like, to me, it's idiotic.
You have to have one penalty taker or two.
Speaker 1 They need to be designated by the manager, and that's it.
Speaker 1 There is no arguing. I don't think it's character.
Speaker 1
I think it's absurd. I really, really do.
The only time. The only time that I ever,
Speaker 1
and by the way, you said you were the penalty ticker and you've given the ball to people. That's the person who has a responsibility.
They want to give it away. You can give it away.
Speaker 1 The only time I would ever say that a penalty taker should give the ball away is if his teammate is on a hat trick. That's the only time for me because hat-tricks are so special and so rare.
Speaker 2 But otherwise, no, like.
Speaker 1 Take the penalty and be done with it. So there are kids.
Speaker 2
Yeah. Young kids.
Yeah. Go ahead.
Speaker 1
No, and I'm okay. Yeah.
Look, young kids, it's,
Speaker 1
you know, know, the other side of the argument is they're in the shop window. They want to get the goal.
It's their, you know, it'd be their first or one of their first few goals with the NASDAQ.
Speaker 1
And they want to impress the coach. So I get that side of it.
It's not that big of a deal. But I get it.
Speaker 2
And then during the week, you know what? Go up to the coach and say, I'd really like to take penalties. Yeah.
Right. And tell the coach and say, or can we take some penalties?
Speaker 2
And whoever misses first doesn't get to take it. Sure.
Like, don't do it. Don't do it on the field.
There were two times, Tim, that I remember off the top of my head giving up penalties.
Speaker 2 One was we were beating Mexico 2-0. Yeah.
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Very end of the game. And Clint had had a phenomenal game.
And I was like, Clint, you want to take it? And of course, Clint was like, hell yeah, dog. Give me the ball.
Don't have to take it.
Speaker 2 Clint will bang that thing.
Speaker 2 The other time I did it was at the end of one of the finals in LA. We were up 2-1 against New England, and it was in extra time.
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And I had hit a long ball from like midfield. And some, I think Robbie Keene or somebody went down and got fouled in the box.
And I was so tired, dude.
Speaker 2 I couldn't even run to the 18 or the, I was like, I just looked from like 40 yards away. I pointed at Robbie and I was like,
Speaker 2
same thing with Robbie. He's like, don't have to tell me twice.
Right, right, right. Anyway, but otherwise, I mean, yeah, I just, I didn't like that.
It was unnecessary, I would say.
Speaker 2
An unnecessary way to put a little damper on the game. But ultimately, I think great performance.
Pochetino clearly had the team ready. They are motivated.
Speaker 2 And then they got another one again on Wednesday. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Well, and then also Patrick Ajamang, big credit to him, scored his first goal. Obviously,
Speaker 1 that's special
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for him, for his family, for everybody. So got to make mention of that as well.
And hopefully that will continue into the next game. Yeah.
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A couple guys left camp. We just want to mention this quickly.
So John Tolkien got signed with Holstein Kiel in the Bundesliga.
Speaker 2
He left camp early. My assumption is he left so he could get there, get into preseason, get ready.
So I totally understand that.
Speaker 2 Jalen Neal had a little injury,
Speaker 2
so he left camp. Understandable.
The interesting one was Jesus Ferreira left, and we talked about him a lot last week.
Speaker 2 The quote was so that he can return or so that he can focus on returning to full fitness.
Speaker 2
So I was trying to dive into this. I spoke to someone at U.S.
soccer and they said that. That is actually the truth.
Speaker 2 You know, they wanted him and he wanted to get up to full fitness ahead of the Sounders season.
Speaker 2 So it's an interesting one because I don't know if that means he didn't come in fit or was he carrying an injury because this was a big opportunity for him, Tim. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Well, I think he's, no, I think there, I know you spoke to some people at U.S. soccer.
Speaker 2 I think there is
Speaker 1 there are moments, particularly with this camp, you have a few more,
Speaker 1 a few more luxuries in terms of the management. And I've been a part of camps where sometimes a guy maybe comes in to be a part of the team or be a part of the first week,
Speaker 1 maybe from the coaching staff to say, Hey, you're on our radar type thing, or hey, we like you and want you to be around the setup and it's an opportunity to come and be around the setup.
Speaker 1 But actually, maybe you're not completely fully fit, so we're not going to push you. Um, and look, he's dealt with injuries, right? He's dealt with injuries, um, last season.
Speaker 1 And so, I do think that is important. And having, you know, again, I think that Pochatino is building bridges.
Speaker 1 We saw a little bit of that, we think when uh he sent christian pulissic back to ac milan um before the mexico game and maybe he's doing that now with seattle right maybe he's saying um
Speaker 1 look new times new player
Speaker 1 we're gonna need him at some point and maybe when we need to push him we're gonna need to lean on that so there's all types of different things that go into these decisions but
Speaker 2 we'll just say i don't know who's who whose decision it was more his more pochetino more seattle whatever but then Ajimang scores, and now it's like, okay, you left the door open, right?
Speaker 2 And this is the way, this is the way.
Speaker 2 That's football, yeah.
Speaker 2 It'd be interesting to see how those two progress throughout the year and what that looks like. Let's move over to Europe.
Speaker 2
Really, really happy all of us were if you're a U.S. men's national team.
Tyler Adams starting to get minutes again. He played really well against Newcastle.
Speaker 2 I thought he was, he's been very good, and he's helped Bournemouth a lot in the last few weeks. So it looks like he is knock on wood, getting back to fitness, starting to play well.
Speaker 2 And if you're a national team fan,
Speaker 2 this is crucial and this needs to continue for the next 18 months.
Speaker 1 You know, the thing, it's hard.
Speaker 1 I find it difficult, not that I ever try, right? But I find it difficult to criticize Tyler Adams because he always delivers. He just always delivers.
Speaker 1 It's the mentality he has. It's the type of kid he is.
Speaker 1 The difference is, though, it just, I watched the game and it was, there was something different. There was a sparkle.
Speaker 1 There was that, you know, I like to say he has the bit between his teeth, but he always had, he always has that.
Speaker 1 There's a, I think, when you're fit, and we both know this, when you're fit, fit, not like just getting by or still have a little bit of a niggle, or maybe you're fit, but in the back of your mind, you're worried.
Speaker 1 Like that performance to me was Tyler Adams with zero worries, zero concerns, fully fit, fully confident. And again,
Speaker 1 he oftentimes has that, but dealing with the injuries that he's had,
Speaker 1 that creeps into your mind.
Speaker 1 And mentally, oftentimes that can affect your performance. But this just, you know, when you talk about, if you've ever seen Tyler Adams at his absolute best, that was him on the weekend.
Speaker 1 And so like, you're just thinking, well done to himself, the physio staff, Bournemouth, getting him fit um, and really being up to speed because he's a joy to watch and he's he's a special player.
Speaker 1 He really, truly is. And so, as you said, for US MNT fans, like, long may that continue.
Speaker 2 Yeah, let's just, there's a part of me in the back of my brain that's like, you're almost just waiting to just make sure he gets through the next game and gets through the next game.
Speaker 2 That happened. I just, I just hope it can continue.
Speaker 2 There was a
Speaker 2 U.S. Derby in Italy, Milan and Juventus.
Speaker 2 Christian Pulisic didn't play.
Speaker 2
Conte Sau said there's nothing serious. They just didn't want to risk him.
He's still, you know, recovering. But Weston McKinney was fantastic.
Tim Wea came off the bench and scored a great goal.
Speaker 2 Weston played right back, which is interesting.
Speaker 2 He's got, in my opinion,
Speaker 2
all the qualities to be a great right back, too. Kind of like Tyler Adams, to be honest.
I feel like both of them could do that in a pinch, no problem.
Speaker 2 The interesting thing for people to understand: so when you play as a central midfielder,
Speaker 2 you have people behind you that can put out fires too, right? So you have a little more leeway to take risks, take chances, go into tackles that you might not otherwise.
Speaker 2 When you play as a, not as a central defender, but when you play as an outside back, it's really interesting because there are certain things that are very similar and very easy.
Speaker 2 The hardest thing, and you know, I wasn't a defender, but the hardest thing people had to pick up was making sure you were with your line all the time, right?
Speaker 2 So the other three defenders or four defenders, depending on what system you're playing.
Speaker 2 But you have to be watching across the back line all the time, knowing where you're, in this case, his left winger is defensively, the guy he's playing against, where he's at, and then making sure you're staying with the line all the time.
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And that's not an easy thing. That takes like lots and lots of time to practice, but he fit in perfectly.
They got a shutout, and I thought he was excellent. Yeah.
Speaker 1 And by the way, the caveat to that is: if you've never seen how
Speaker 1 Italian teams defend, it's not normal, right? Like, so, you know, in certain, in certain countries, you can go, oh, yeah, chuck the guy right back and just stick.
Speaker 1 No, Italians defend like nobody else on the planet. And it's so systematic and it's so drilled.
Speaker 1 So the fact, you know, again, talk about big credit to Weston, the fact that he can just slot in and play well, right? Like it's not an easy thing to do. in Italian football.
Speaker 1 But, you know, I also think he's kind of a Swiss Army knife. He has, he's, he has so many,
Speaker 1 he can play so many positions and he plays them well. And I often wonder, like, is that a blessing or a curse? I think it's a blessing because you get on the pitch, right?
Speaker 1 And you have the ability to be available to your manager and you're going to see more of the field, which is always the best thing for a player. You know, I think the concern
Speaker 1 because what I care about is the U.S. Men's National team is he's so good in that number eight role.
Speaker 1 If everyone's fit,
Speaker 1 his energy, his exuberance, his ability to make late runs into the box, his goal scoring prowess, like that to me, I think is where he's at his best, certainly with the U.S. men's national team.
Speaker 1 And so ideally, you'd like for him to be getting as many reps and as many games in that position.
Speaker 2 But, okay,
Speaker 1 the bottom line is he's playing and he's
Speaker 1
doing really well. Tim Weya, look, you know what it's like, goal scores.
Can you keep banging it in the back of the net?
Speaker 1 And the more that he can do that at that level, which he's shown he can do and is doing, I mean, again, brilliant for him, brilliant for the national team. And then obviously, Christian Conte Sal says
Speaker 1 it doesn't seem serious, which is obviously a great thing. And the more opportunity he can get to, you know, get himself fit, ready for the next game,
Speaker 1 for me, that's the most important thing.
Speaker 2 You know, with Tim Wea,
Speaker 2 I think, and, you know,
Speaker 2 I haven't spoken to him, so I don't know if this is true. After he got that red card in Copa America that, you know, ultimately ended up to the U.S.
Speaker 2 ultimately getting knocked out and Berhalter getting fired,
Speaker 2 he just seems like a changed player, maybe in person. And again, I'm not, I'm just seeing, saying what I'm seeing from him.
Speaker 2
But sometimes those moments, Tim, like, those are the best thing that can happen. Totally.
I had
Speaker 2 in 2002, we had a great World Cup. In 2006, I had a terrible World Cup.
Speaker 2
And sometimes those down moments, you find out what you're made of. And it seems like he's come back.
You know, my response in that moment was like, I'm not letting that happen ever again.
Speaker 2
And it seems like he's got that same mentality, like, you know what? That's not good enough. And I'm not going to let that happen again.
So he's been on a tear, man.
Speaker 2 And when he's in this kind of form, you just think about as you're putting together a team moving into 2026 World Cup. Yeah.
Speaker 2 If you have he and Christian on either side of whoever who's playing well, Pepe, or whoever,
Speaker 1 you start to get some like some real quality and you get weston tyler adams whoever musa um there's some real quality now and the front part of the field starts to look pretty good yeah i mean you make you make a good point about about 10 weeks look the fact of the matter is if you play at an elite level right uh in europe and and with your national team that's an elite level you're going to fail more times than you succeed.
Speaker 1 That's just the nature of the game. Day in and day out, training five times a week, playing once or twice a week for a decade or more, you're going to fail more times than you succeed.
Speaker 1 And you have to be able in the big moments, right, when you get sent off or
Speaker 1 miss a sitter or whatever the case is, you have to be able to take the criticism in that moment and learn from it.
Speaker 2 Not
Speaker 1 tell people to go stuff it. Just understand the criticism, understand
Speaker 1
what you did wrong if you feel you've done wrong and change it. And you sense that change.
I think other people do as well. And that's a sign of maturity that's a sign of of uh look
Speaker 1 we're all none of us are exempt from those tough moments right but it's how you kind of how how you allow them to kind of shape and form um you know your your future experiences and you and and and how you go about your business and he's doing it in the right way so um i think that was a big moment for him and and and it's showing I see this too with college football players.
Speaker 2
We forget these are their kids. They're 18, 19, 20, 22.
Weston McKinney had the same thing in Nashville a couple years ago when he made some bad decisions off the field and got sent home from camp.
Speaker 2
And we all made those dumb decisions. I did it too.
You did too. And you got to learn from it and grow.
Speaker 2 Just one other quick note
Speaker 2
on the bad side of things. Malik Tellman suffered an ankle injury, it looks like at PSV.
And his manager, Peter Bosch, says
Speaker 2
he's probably going to be out for a while. So wishing him the best.
And hopefully that doesn't last too long because he's been in good form too. And U.S.
Speaker 2 men's national team fans definitely want that to continue.
Speaker 1 Yeah, wish him well.
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Speaker 1 Okay, LD, let's talk Premier League. Oh, boy.
Speaker 1 Manchester United, one.
Speaker 2
Brighton, three. Yikes.
They didn't play well.
Speaker 1 It is a classic one step forward, two, three, or four steps back for Manchester United. Of course, with Ruben Aymer being the coach, all the spotlight is on him.
Speaker 1 He had some interesting, interesting words to say after the game. Let me read you this quote, and then I'm going to let you take off with this.
Speaker 1
He said, I know we can succeed, but we need to survive at this moment. I'm not naive.
We need to survive now. We are the worst team.
Let me read that again.
Speaker 1
We are the worst team, maybe, in the history of Manchester United. I know you want headlines, but I'm saying this because we have to acknowledge that and change that.
Here you go.
Speaker 1 That's your headline. Go.
Speaker 2 All right. So I was watching the Everton game, which we'll get get into up at the Toffees.
Speaker 2 And I was watching, you know, on NBC, they've got in the corner the scores up there.
Speaker 2 So actually, you don't even see that because you're working. But
Speaker 2 so I saw United 1-1, and then I saw United 1 Brighton 2.
Speaker 2
And then it went back to 1-1. So I figured there was some VAR or whatever.
And the next thing I know, I look and it's 3-1 Brighton. And I was like, what is going on? So
Speaker 2 here's, I've said this over and over, Tim, and I'm going to say it again.
Speaker 2 They just aren't, they just don't have good enough players.
Speaker 2 It's like,
Speaker 2 again, I've compared them to the Dallas Cowboys, but
Speaker 2 you just have this idea that they're supposed to be wherever they are, and nothing is given in life. They have no divine right to be anything other than just another team in the Premier League.
Speaker 2
They have no divine right. And people have these crazy expectations of why are they this? Why are they? Look at their roster.
They're just not good enough. And so I, more than what Ruben Emeron said,
Speaker 2 the way he looks right now, he looks defeated, dude. Like when I watched the press conference versus his first press conference, and he knew, look, he's not stupid.
Speaker 2 When he came in, he probably was looking at other rosters and going, oh, boy.
Speaker 2 But now he's seeing it up close every day. And he probably thinks in his mind, Tim, he probably thinks he's got like three or four decent players for him.
Speaker 2 I mean, honestly. And the rest he's
Speaker 2
not good enough. Totally.
Totally.
Speaker 1 Look,
Speaker 1 you know, again,
Speaker 1
I read the comment. You know, let's pick some of this out.
He said, we need to survive this moment. You know, as soon as
Speaker 1 you start to mutter the word survive or survival, people are like, oh boy, relegation.
Speaker 1 I tend to think, and English is a second language and he speaks very good English. Survive this moment means they're in a really low spot in terms of mentally and
Speaker 1 the morale of the club. And I think that's, I know that's what he's talking about, survive this moment
Speaker 1 in our season, this feeling, the era of this club.
Speaker 2 But,
Speaker 1 you know,
Speaker 1 here's why I like him coming out and saying what the worst team maybe in the history of Manchester United, because that's what the facts are saying.
Speaker 1 And unfortunately, I have watched so many Manchester United managers, particularly the last one, Eric Tenhaug, when you are, you, me, and everyone else is reading this, this script, this script, right?
Speaker 1 And he'll go, he'll stand up there and tell you, you're not seeing what you're reading. You're thinking, wait a minute, you can't keep trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
Speaker 1 Like, tell us what we already know.
Speaker 1
And so I do like the truth about that. And I do, I think it's clever.
And here's why. I've been around enough managers, particularly in England.
Speaker 1
You have to create your own narrative. You have to, this team is good enough.
You just said it. It's not good enough, nowhere near good enough to be a Manchester United team, to
Speaker 1
play in the the Champions League, to win a title. And he knows that.
He also knows that he has a very fundamental system that is completely flawed if he doesn't get the right players in.
Speaker 1 And he knows that that time is coming. January is probably not the right time to bring in the right players,
Speaker 1 but the summer and a windfall and getting players out.
Speaker 1 And I think the more he pushes that, Sir Jim Radcliffe and Indie Austin, Omar Barada, and the powers that be in the hierarchy at Manchester United will listen to that.
Speaker 1 We'll probably already know that.
Speaker 1
But I think this continues to push his narrative. And I do.
I like him as a manager.
Speaker 1
And I certainly think you can't judge him as a manager in terms of his style and these players because these players don't fit. They don't fit his style.
They don't fit at Manchester United.
Speaker 1 And the proof is in the pudding because they haven't for a number of years now.
Speaker 2 So I like what he said. I like his honesty.
Speaker 2 There's a fundamental issue when new managers come into a club that's struggling. Here's the fundamental issue.
Speaker 2 Generally speaking, you go after a type of manager who has been very, this is what's happened in modern soccer.
Speaker 2 Very successful, unique, creative in the way they do things, very system-oriented or doing the things they like to do.
Speaker 2 And the challenge is when you drop that, you take that manager and drop him into a team or her into a team that doesn't have the right ingredients to make the meal that you want.
Speaker 2 Now there's a huge problem because you need to get results now. And so my question for you is, when he first signed this deal, did he go to them and say,
Speaker 2 this is going to take one year, 18 months, two years? And if you're not okay with that, do not hire me because we're going to suffer in the interim.
Speaker 2 Because he's not, you know, David Moyes, and we'll talk about him, is the other end of that spectrum. You can drop him in almost anywhere and he's going to find a way to get results.
Speaker 2 Now, is it creative and new and progressive and everything that, you know, sexy managers are these? No, but he will get results. And so, did he say that? Is Manchester United willing to suffer now
Speaker 2
and take its blows now? And I've said this about other sports, Tim, too. I see it a lot in the NBA.
You try to, the galaxy went through this for a long time.
Speaker 2 You try to plug one hole and then you try to plug the next hole.
Speaker 2 And then you try, the next thing you know, you're playing whack-a-mole all over, as opposed to just blowing the whole thing up and starting over. So, do you think he's had those conversations?
Speaker 2 Are they aware of it? I mean, are they willing to wait and suffer?
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 1 I tend to think
Speaker 1 that Omar Barada
Speaker 1 and Sergeant Radcliffe and Nielsen and the whole crew aren't naive to this. I think they took this club over from the sporting side, and I think they saw
Speaker 1 the holes and the flaws.
Speaker 2 And, you know,
Speaker 1
I often say with rock bottom, be careful because there's a trap door. And I think they understood that.
I tend to think
Speaker 1
Omar Barter, excuse me, Ruben Amran would have had those honest conversations. He seems like it on the surface to say, look, this is the way I play.
This is why you've come to get me.
Speaker 1 You've seen how my sporting teams play.
Speaker 1 I'm going to need certain players. Yeah, he probably said, I think he probably said, you know what? There's
Speaker 1 eight players in the squad that I think can do a job. And he probably said, I can get a tune out of them.
Speaker 1 I think now having had some time with those players, that eight players, and that's an assumption, is probably, he's probably realizing it's like three, you know, like there's like three players that I would maybe keep around and
Speaker 1 start, but ultimately, but then again, again, that's difficult because with PSR, you can't change this overnight. You can't get rid of this whole team and bring a whole new team in, right?
Speaker 1 And so I think a lot of the players we see now come next season will either be out the door or sitting on the bench as squad players, good squad players.
Speaker 1
But I think we're going to see a lot of change. By the way, we don't see a lot of change in the summer.
I've got more questions for another podcast.
Speaker 2
Well, there has to be. I mean, there has to be.
There has to be.
Speaker 2 Look, if maybe there are three or four that you say could start in the right environment and things going well, maybe it's seven or eight, right? But right now, everyone looks terrible.
Speaker 2
They just look terrible. All right, let's move on to the other team in Manchester.
Manchester City, you're back.
Speaker 2 Well, maybe not.
Speaker 2 They absolutely battered Ip Ipswich 6-0. Phil Foden was scintillating.
Speaker 2 They are unbeaten since Christmas.
Speaker 2 So four wins and two draws.
Speaker 2
They look better. It's Ipswich, so you're not getting too crazy about it.
But do you feel like maybe, maybe it's turning a bit?
Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm looking at the table now.
Speaker 1 They're
Speaker 1 12 points behind Liverpool, right? Liverpool have the game in hand. We know that's emergency star Derby, which I think is rescheduled for the 11th or 12th of February.
Speaker 1 City can't win the title this year, but I was going to say, are they looking at that or are they just looking at Champions League, right? No, but it's Champions League.
Speaker 1 Like Forrest are on 44 points, City are on 38.
Speaker 2 Like, there's every chance
Speaker 1 they overtake Forrest for third place
Speaker 1 and push, you know,
Speaker 1 are they able to push Arsenal a little bit?
Speaker 1 Probably not, but like, you know, I tend to think forests for as well as they're doing will start to slowly digress, not not implode. Um, but yeah, I think City can get back to winning ways.
Speaker 1 They also have, like, there's a, there's a click and a shift in this mentality, which for it's been so catastrophic, their fall from grace, right?
Speaker 1 Which has made it, which is because they've set such high standards, which makes you feel like, oh my God. Like,
Speaker 1
they're getting some players out of the door. They're making one or two other signings.
By the way, Pep Guardiola is still a genius.
Speaker 2 He didn't lose that
Speaker 1 in four months. So if someone's asking me to bet against them finding form, Holland banging in goals again, Phil Foden coming to the boil, them getting one or two other midfield replacements or
Speaker 1
another striker, like you asked me to bet against them going on a long, unbeaten run? No, I won't. I won't do it because I've seen it.
I've seen it. So
Speaker 2 yeah, I think they're slightly back.
Speaker 1 did, I did a felt for Ip Switch on the weekend. I was talking to a buddy of mine who is an investor in the club.
Speaker 1 And I just thought like, because I've been on the other end of it, it was like three and a half halftime. And he rang me at halftime.
Speaker 1 And I thought, I thought like, they got to keep it at like four because four, four sucks, but like six is demoralizing.
Speaker 2 Like, I, I've, I've been there.
Speaker 1 I've been there. And like
Speaker 1 three, when I conceded three or four, I'm like,
Speaker 1 I kind of got a hand to that one. If we would have done this and put ourselves in the right situation, maybe could, when you get to six, I'm telling you, LD, you go home and look in the mirror.
Speaker 1 Well, that's a scary sight to look in the mirror after you can see the six.
Speaker 2 And you're like, I'm not really, I'm not really that good.
Speaker 1 Like, and you start like the mentality of the team. So, my worry for Ipswich, and I know we're going a little bit off culture here.
Speaker 1 They have Liverpool next game, and then Southampton, and then Villa, right? So, my hope for them is
Speaker 1 in the bottom three.
Speaker 1
The hope is that you get a performance at Liverpool. I don't think you'll win.
Then you go into Southampton, the dreaded six-pointer, think you win that game if you're Ipswich.
Speaker 1
And now all of a sudden you're playing Villa, who are a better team. But then you're thinking, look, we've had a good performance against Liverpool, didn't get the result.
We won the game.
Speaker 1 We're supposed to win against Southampton. And now have we gained enough momentum into this Villa team against the Villa side and maybe get a result?
Speaker 1 But six is tough, but the focus is sitting there for me. Really good performance.
Speaker 2 People don't realize that.
Speaker 2 To your point, the difference between three and six is massive psychologically. And fans are like, oh, it's only three.
Speaker 2 No, nuts let's get one back and I'm like no no no no just don't get destroyed we had a game actually in Houston you'll appreciate this we had a game one year with the galaxy in Houston and after like 14 minutes we were down three zero yeah and I was like and we were we were not at it like you can't win
Speaker 2 no chance zero and I remember I was the captain so I pulled the team in and I just said guys
Speaker 2 I was picking my words carefully, but I was like, have some pride, basically saying, don't get destroyed. But there was no like, we can still do this.
Speaker 2 I was like, we're losing today, but let's just make sure this, I think it finished 3-0, but I was like, let's make sure this does.
Speaker 1 That's incredible insight for our listeners because it's funny you say that.
Speaker 1 It makes me think of a time I was the opposite.
Speaker 1 Everton are playing in the Europa League against sporting Lisbon. It's like Seamus Coleman's like first
Speaker 1
European game. Like he's still, he's still just a young kid.
And
Speaker 1 we had a patchwork back for, we're getting beat beat a five nil bro five nil i'm chasing after the ball on goal kicks i'm like rah rah like crazy american guy we could do this i'm like and people like my teammates are looking at me like what are you doing it's five nil like and i remember in the dressroom afterward like david molly's looking at me going
Speaker 2 what was the point of that like and i and i'm and i i was so heartbroken because i'm like i don't know maybe get one back for five nil that's the uh that's such a classic american oh my gosh you know like when i listen to games when i listen to english commentators when it's 2-0 and there's like, it's getting into extra time or out of time, they're like, oh, win for Manchester City here.
Speaker 2 And in my mind, I'm like, no, no, they could still lose this game. Like, you know, like, Americans are so dumb.
Speaker 2 But sometimes you do win when you're down 2-0 and actually, you know, five.
Speaker 2 No, not five.
Speaker 1
Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I want to talk about Holland because I think that's important.
He signed a not nine and a half year extension with City Saw. Obviously, it's this,
Speaker 1 you know, this half of the season plus the next half and then an extra nine.
Speaker 1 You know, he's showing a lot of trust in the club. The club's obviously showing a lot of trust in him.
Speaker 1 According to the New York Times, any release clause from his last contract had been removed. That for me is a sticking point, LD, because he's the best striker in the world.
Speaker 1 It's, you know, you hear the rumors like Real Madrid. He'll win a couple titles at City, and then he's off to Spain.
Speaker 1 All of those claws
Speaker 1 have been gone, removed, which means he's not really going anywhere unless something drastic changes.
Speaker 2 So help people understand. So
Speaker 2 a lot of times people have relegation clauses, right? Which nobody expects City to ever get relegated. They also have, a lot of times players have a release clause, meaning if you pay a certain fee,
Speaker 2
the player's free. So it could say, the player can say, $100 million release clause.
If anybody, my uncle, Real Madrid, my mom gives you $100 million, I am free. Right.
Speaker 2
But if all those have been removed, you're right. He's not going anywhere.
So
Speaker 2 that's an interesting commitment because at some point pep's going to be done yeah right and you don't know who the next manager is no by the way relegation no you don't know who the next manager is and pep oh i didn't think about psr by the psr with all the charges
Speaker 2 you know which we should know soon could they could i mean i think it'd be short-lived but you know right i didn't think can you imagine earlier in holland making like 600 grand a week playing in that championship i i wonder i'll tell you what i wonder if i wonder how much it costs right now to get the rights to that documentary Because I reckon
Speaker 1 I could do a season-long documentary with City and the Championship.
Speaker 2 That would be amazing.
Speaker 1 Yeah, and that this podcast would be a whole different kettle of fish, but
Speaker 1 you know, the other, I think, the other talking point about that, right, is this keeps him in the Premier League for nine and a half years. Um,
Speaker 1 you know, Alan, Alan Shearer, and everyone's talking about the goal rate that Holland is on. You know, should Alan Shearer be nervous? I don't think so, right? Because Alan Shearer is 260 goals.
Speaker 1
You know, it's crazy. And you as a goal scorer, if you're saying it's crazy, you must know.
I mean, Holland currently has 80 goals. You know, in City's 16 remaining games,
Speaker 1
let's say he scores seven more goals. We're assuming, right? Ends the season with 24 for the year, 87 in total for the Premier League.
So he'd have to,
Speaker 2 in order to beat Shearer. 174 behind him.
Speaker 1 73.
Speaker 2 73 behind him.
Speaker 1 he'd have to average 20 goals a season per season. And he'd pass year in the last season of the contract, which is 20, 33, 24.
Speaker 2 I'm not betting on that.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I just don't see him at it. I don't.
Is he talented enough? Yes. I don't see him at the club for that long.
I know that he signed. It's got Bobby Bonilla written all over it.
Speaker 2 He's been making money long into retirement.
Speaker 2 All right, let's move on to our tough days up the tough days.
Speaker 2 So, David Moyes back at Goodison Park. God, it was such a, I mean, imagine.
Speaker 2
I know how I felt. I can imagine how you felt watching David Moyes at Everton again.
It was just such a throwback.
Speaker 2 Absolutely destroyed Spurs in the first half.
Speaker 2 Spurs got back into it a little bit at the end, but Everton won 3-2.
Speaker 2
I have a lot of thoughts about Everton, but let's start with Spurs. Sure.
They've lost 12 of their last 22 league matches as a starting point.
Speaker 2 Last year, they lost 12 games total.
Speaker 2 We just have to ask the, I mean, how much longer
Speaker 2 are Spurs fans, management, ownership going to deal with this? Right. And
Speaker 2 Ange Postakogo seems like a very likable guy, but at some point, man, I mean, they're down at the bottom of the, I think they're 15th. They're only
Speaker 2
just ahead of Everton. Yeah.
How long can they deal with this?
Speaker 1 So interestingly enough, a dear friend of mine is
Speaker 1 from London is a is a spurs season ticket holder and
Speaker 2 for all his sins for all his sins and he and he um
Speaker 1 we had a conversation we and we've had a lot of angels to cognitive total conversations um
Speaker 1 on nbc in studio because it's like i said about ten hog we are see land we're seeing something so richly with with with tottenham and ange comes out every game and tells us we ain't seeing that.
Speaker 1 And so
Speaker 1 I have a ton of thoughts on it.
Speaker 2 And look,
Speaker 1 our Premier League insider, David Ormstein, said he's he's 100% safe, which again, I know the kiss of death is when ownership comes out, but it seems as if that's real.
Speaker 1 What would save him is they have Lester next weekend.
Speaker 1 So he, that doesn't mean it's a win because the way that they're playing.
Speaker 1 They're in both cups still. I don't think they fire a manager who are in
Speaker 1 both tournaments, FA Cup. And I think they're leading in
Speaker 1 EFL Cup
Speaker 1 after the first leg. So
Speaker 1 I don't think you sack a manager who's still going good on both fronts.
Speaker 1 The issue for me is
Speaker 1
every Premier League team, whether you like it or not, goes through an injury crisis. Every Premier League team does.
Now,
Speaker 1 their injury list is long and
Speaker 1 you could argue that that injury list is long based on how they play, actually. But he's got defenders running the most high intensity sprints of any defenders in the Premier League.
Speaker 2 So, okay.
Speaker 1 But my issue is, if you have an injury list that long, right,
Speaker 2 you're now playing square pegs and round holes.
Speaker 1 You are.
Speaker 1
You're getting guys to fill in who are the midfielder. Now he's playing center back and left back.
You're all over the place.
Speaker 1
The responsibility then lies on the manager to set his team up and say, hey. I know we play a high line.
I know we play both of our fullbacks inverted. I know we go for it.
Speaker 1
But we haven't haven't won in a while, and this is a problem. So we're going to go to Everton, and I know we've got a young patchwork back line.
We're going to go 4-4-2. We're going to get a result.
Speaker 1
Yes, our principle is going to be the same. Play between lines.
Look to get forward when you can. Overlap on one side.
Speaker 1
Keep one of the fullbacks home. Maybe you both don't go.
But the fact of the matter is, he's saying, no, I've got young players. I've got players in the wrong position.
Speaker 1
And I'm still going to kind of hang them out to dry. And I think that's a massive problem.
I think that's on the manager. And if he, if he dissects it any other way, I think it's wrong.
Speaker 2 It's really hard, Tim, for people, I see this in all walks of life. People who are extremely successful getting to the top have done it a certain way.
Speaker 2
And then when you get to the top and there's adversity, they don't want to change. And it happens at every level in all types of businesses and professions.
And you see it all the time.
Speaker 2 And the reality is, is in soccer, man, you have to have some ability to adapt. Yeah.
Speaker 2 And sometimes, you know, some man, there's a spectrum, right?
Speaker 2 So when I was coaching, most of the time, most managers are on the end of the spectrum where it's like every week, they're changing everything about their team based on the opponent, everything.
Speaker 2 How they train, everything they do. And over time, players are like, what are we? What are we? We don't know what we are.
Speaker 2
But then there are quite a few managers now in world soccer who are on the other end of the spectrum. It's like, we are doing what we're doing.
Amarim is like this now, right? Rostakogu is like this.
Speaker 2
No matter what. Russell Martin at Southampton.
No matter what, we are going to do this. And it feels like now there will be some coming back to the middle because you have to adjust.
Speaker 2 Now teams are so good.
Speaker 2 When teams try to build out of the back, teams now have adapted to go after you so
Speaker 2
hard and so well structured that they can pick you off and score goals. And that's the hardest thing to do in the sport.
And you can score goals quickly and create big chances.
Speaker 2 So he's got to adapt, dude, or he's going to be gone.
Speaker 1 The other part about that is, and this may be hard, this may be harsh, but fair, LD,
Speaker 2 the Premier League is unrelenting.
Speaker 1 I would probably say the Bundesliga is as well, right?
Speaker 1 He has coached this style, which
Speaker 1 in a phone booth is a fun, entertaining style, right?
Speaker 1 But he hasn't done it at this level.
Speaker 1 and and and yes fair play he he did it with celtic in in scotland you have two you have two dominant teams that monopolize the best players that's it so he hasn't done it at this level where every
Speaker 1 single game you could get beat he's not done it and
Speaker 1 my worry is that he's being so stubborn that it's worked other places that he has that he doesn't take that 30 000 foot view because he's so close to it to see that maybe maybe i need to tweak a few things so yeah interesting Pride cometh before the fall.
Speaker 2
Sure does. And yeah, we'll see what happens.
All right, let's move into some MLS news and notes.
Speaker 2 First on the coaching front, Tim, NYCFC announced earlier this month that Pascal Janssen will be their new head coach.
Speaker 2 I don't know anything about him, but it sounds like you've spoken to some people who are high on him.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, some people on the inside that I know seem to really like him. Say he's super buttoned up, dialed in,
Speaker 1 coached quite a lot in Hungary and Holland. And we know in Holland that tactically
Speaker 1 and technically, those teams are spot on in the Air de Visi. So if he can bring any of that to New York City,
Speaker 2 look,
Speaker 1 they've shown they're willing to go out and back
Speaker 1 their coaches in terms of getting the right players through the door to play that style.
Speaker 1 So I think Pascal Jensen is actually quite a good signing and people on the inside are really, really excited about him. So apparently that hiring process went really well and they got their guy.
Speaker 2 Okay.
Speaker 2 Vancouver Whitecaps announced Jesper Sorensen as their new head coach. He coached at Brunby in the Danish Superliga.
Speaker 2 Interestingly,
Speaker 2 he finished fifth his first season, then he finished second last year, and then they sacked him when he was in fifth this year. So,
Speaker 2 interestingly, I don't know anything about him either.
Speaker 1 He's a victim of his own success.
Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 I see a big trend in MLS where European sporting directors come in and and then they want to hire a European coach.
Speaker 2 And for the most part, it hasn't been crazy successful, but we'll see how both of those go.
Speaker 2 And then some interesting player news.
Speaker 2 Sounds like Charlotte FC are in talks with Wilfried Zaha. Yeah.
Speaker 2 I don't like it personally. I don't know how you feel.
Speaker 2 Not a fan of it.
Speaker 2 It just seems like he's passed it. Once he went to Galatasarai,
Speaker 2 felt like that was the end. But God, is he talented, man?
Speaker 1
Yeah. I mean, I think he, he, his home was at Crystal Palace, and it's a good home.
You know, went to United
Speaker 1 in a tough transition moment after Sarlot Ferguson. Um, he was flying high, he was a little bit younger, uh, didn't work out for him, which didn't work out for a bunch of players, me included.
Speaker 1
And uh, but he was, he was brilliant at Palace. I can say that he's brilliant at Palace, that was his home.
You know, what I
Speaker 1 like it for Charlotte. What I would say is this, and you've more than anybody in MLS have dealt with this, right?
Speaker 1 this is one of those things where it's like wilf
Speaker 1 it gets hot in the summer here like there's gonna be a kid out of college that's just gonna kick you and he doesn't care that you're Wilfred Zaha um
Speaker 1 I
Speaker 1 like it but also if you've ever seen him play he plays with he's at his best he's one of these guys that g's himself up that he he could start a fight in an empty house. He's just like,
Speaker 1 anybody who touches him, he just wants to fight and be nasty because I think that gets him at his best. But again, that's going to happen to him every single game, you know?
Speaker 1 So I just wonder from a mentality standpoint, if he's fully prepared for that. But again, talented, on the ball, tricky.
Speaker 2
I like it for sure. It'd be fun to watch.
Yeah, for sure. I just
Speaker 2 felt like once he left Palace, he was like, all right, totally. I'm on my way out.
Speaker 2
We'll follow that one. That's what you worry about.
Yeah. Oh, we thought for a few weeks here that Neymar might go to Chicago.
Speaker 2
Uh, he has, it sounds like, I don't know if it's confirmed, confirmed, but instead he's going to go to Santos in Brazil, which means it's time for Carnival. Yes, holiday.
He's
Speaker 2 sounds like he's going home to party. There's a
Speaker 1 I was going to say, I'm happy for Chicago this didn't happen, but I think
Speaker 1 you mentioned that you might have heard something that Greg Berholter was actually over in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 2 I had a report, yeah, that he was over in Saudi Arabia. So, obviously, they're trying to make it happen.
Speaker 1 Obviously, Greg wanted it to to happen.
Speaker 1 What I would say is
Speaker 1 thank God for unanswered prayers. I don't see, and look, Greg is a good coach, and he probably thinks he can get the best out of anyone.
Speaker 2 That's what a good coach does, but that won't, that one would worry me. Look, that had the classic, you know, a few exciting moments, good games, the rest, just total disaster.
Speaker 2 And his Saudi coach even said physically he can't do it anymore. And that's in Saudi, right? And so it's like, yeah, I mean, I think that was a bullet dodge there.
Speaker 2 It also sounds like, and it's a little complicated, but it sounds like Atlanta United might be bringing back Miguel Almaron, who hasn't been playing as much at Newcastle.
Speaker 2
That seems like a good fit. Like, he would love to be back there.
Yeah. Could be really interesting.
Speaker 1 Yeah, that'd be fun. Look, I think Eddie Howe, who's a fantastic manager at Newcastle,
Speaker 1 kind of got the best out of
Speaker 1 Almaron the other
Speaker 1 year, maybe not his first season, not Eddie Howell's first season, but in his second season,
Speaker 1
Miguel Amaron hit the ground running. He was flying.
He was assist goals. He was coming on the, he was like drifting onto the inside.
He was brilliant. He really was.
And again, since then,
Speaker 1 Jacob Murphy's kind of taken over that right-hand side, which is fine, but he still has it. He still has it.
Speaker 1 If he's hungry and he's excited to be back in Atlanta, as you just mentioned, that could be a really fun one.
Speaker 2 Well, he always felt like a guy who
Speaker 2
it didn't matter where you were playing, what the stakes, whatever, like he just came to play. He just feels like he just always comes to play.
And so it feels like a good fit there. Totally.
Speaker 1 Totally.
Speaker 2 All right, let's take another break. When we come back, we'll get into Mailbag, Anything But Soccer, right here on Unfiltered Soccer with Landon and Tim presented by Volkswagen.
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Speaker 2 All right, Tim, between your work, your daughter, your son, or maybe just your own enjoyment, how much traveling do you think you've done to see soccer this year?
Speaker 1 Honestly, I've lost track at this point.
Speaker 1 You know, just this summer alone, I was all over the place. But it is, it's a beautiful thing to see how many soccer fans and how soccer has been embraced no matter where we go.
Speaker 2
Yeah, I mean, I was just in Austin. I'll be traveling to New York.
Everywhere I go, I meet fans. Whether I'm going to see a game myself or just on vacation, I see people everywhere.
I hear stories.
Speaker 2 I hear stories about their pilgrimage to Everton to go watch a game, to go see the new stadium, to go see their favorite team.
Speaker 2 They get immersed in the chants, the songs, that incredible feeling of seeing the game up close and personal.
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Speaker 1 Jordan, get on in here. This is your favorite segment of the week.
Speaker 2 Oh, new background.
Speaker 2 Wow. Jordan.
Speaker 1
Jordan, I save this. I say this because I have a bone to pick with you, and I knew that would throw you on live podcast.
We are unfiltered.
Speaker 1 And I feel like some of the questions you, I've heard from some friends
Speaker 1 that we've gotten, you know, we've gotten a few, I have gotten a few
Speaker 1
not so nice comments. And we're unfiltered.
So, I think you need to bring us some heat.
Speaker 2 What? They're not good.
Speaker 2 They're too filtered.
Speaker 1 No, I just think there's some people out there who maybe
Speaker 1 disagree with some things I or you have to say. I think we need to give them their just due and stay unfiltered.
Speaker 2
No problem. Okay.
Oh, I see. Okay.
Speaker 3 How about I make a deal with you?
Speaker 3 Because I think the two of you know at this point, I like to be very buttoned up and prepared. So next week, we're going to be doing a mailbag episode.
Speaker 3 And so, how about next week I bring a little extra fire?
Speaker 2 A little thunder. All right.
Speaker 2 D-Lair. D-Line.
Speaker 3 The ones that I picked for this week are still pretty good, though.
Speaker 2
Okay, good. All right.
All right. You guys ready? Ready? We're ready.
Speaker 3
Okay. So we're going to start with a question from Vince via email.
I just wanted to get your take on if you think the LA Galaxy can repeat as MLS champions this next season.
Speaker 3 A lot of things went right in order for Galaxy to win the cup this year.
Speaker 3 And with not having Ricky Pooge for most of this next season, what do you think their odds of repeating are and vince also wanted me to let you guys know that he's trying to boost the number of episodes in which we mention ricky and that's right
Speaker 2 as long as landing's on it'd be fine i'm happy baby thank you vince uh i'll start um as we've talked about many many times the the key in mls is getting into the playoffs and then getting in healthy And you have to say, everybody stays together.
Speaker 2
Most of the team stays together. And Ricky Pooge is back at the end of the season.
As long as they're in the playoffs, it'd be hard to bet against them.
Speaker 2 I feel like the Galaxy could go anywhere and win a game, especially with that front four.
Speaker 2 And so far, we haven't dived in a lot yet or dove in, dived in, dove in, a lot to MLS offseason.
Speaker 2 We will at a later date as we get closer to the season, but the galaxy, in my opinion, made a massive upgrade and huge pickup by bringing Sean Davis over from Nashville, central midfielder who's just really, really good.
Speaker 2
And so he's going to help them a lot. He's a classic MLS veteran who just helps you win games.
So I wouldn't bet against him. Obviously, I'm biased, but I wouldn't bet again.
Speaker 1 I was going to say, I was going to say, no bias there. I mean,
Speaker 1 naturally,
Speaker 1 I would say they have a good chance, but they have to get through Houston and the West. And that's going to be a problem
Speaker 1 given the team that Pat Onstad is putting on the field and
Speaker 1 Ben Olson is going to lead the charge.
Speaker 2 charge so save it pal could be tough it could be tough for for them but uh repeating is always hard i think it's always repeating is is extremely because there's psychologically just so people understand
Speaker 2 it is so hard to be motivated excited and up for every game for a year and then when you win there's a natural it's just human psychology like oh we did it and to then have that same chip on your shoulder and go after it again when you have a target on your back because now everyone's like, oh, we're playing the champs.
Speaker 2 Oh, the champs are coming to town. It's really hard.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but
Speaker 1 I also think, well, one, we know how great of a coach Greg Banny is. I think
Speaker 1
not having their best player is actually going to give him a little fuel for fire. It's going to, he's going to be able to drive those players.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
Almost reverse psychology and basically say, don't drop your standards. We know it's going to be tough, but we've done it before.
We can do it again.
Speaker 1 And then, by the way, they get this massive boost at some point in the season.
Speaker 1 So, yeah,
Speaker 2 it's it's hard though.
Speaker 3
Okay, how about a question from YouTube? This one is from Ryan. What venue in the U.S.
as a U.S. men's national team player has been your favorite to play in?
Speaker 3 And if you were still an active player, what new stadium do you wish you could play in as a U.S. men's national team player?
Speaker 2 Great question. Yeah.
Speaker 2 Well, outside of Dignity Health Sports Park, because that was home for so many years for me.
Speaker 2 I would say Kansas City, sporting Kansas City for me.
Speaker 2 The close confines, the crowd was fantastic. It gets a little like dark and shadowy because it's kind of set in a little bit.
Speaker 2 So I just, I loved playing there. And that would be my answer for
Speaker 2 when I was playing. What new stadium?
Speaker 2 Nashville's was pretty cool when I went to visit. That would be a cool stadium to play in.
Speaker 2 Maybe Cincinnati and Austin also looks really cool too.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I don't think you can ever get too far away from Columbus Cruise Stadium for everything it meant to
Speaker 1 me as a player and, you know, my teammates, one being Landon. And, you know, we, we have never in this country had a national stadium,
Speaker 1 which hopefully will change in the future. But again, that will also take time.
Speaker 1 You go to these countries and you play in a national stadium and these things were built just from brick and concrete and they're old and they have they have character and they have meaning.
Speaker 1 And we've never had that in America. And based on performances and results, and dos Acero and
Speaker 1
Columbus. We created that in Columbus.
And, you know, the fee, and I say that because the feeling was, we're going to, we're going to play Mexico in Columbus, or we're going to win.
Speaker 1 Like, there was just,
Speaker 1
there was never a sense of anything other than that mentality. And, and, and it did.
It had, it had everything to do with it was small and metal, and we knew it was going to be cold.
Speaker 1 And so as a player, you walked off that bus match day minus one or,
Speaker 1 you know, or pregame. You just felt the chill in the air and you thought, we're going to win.
Speaker 1 And so that for me was, I think Cincinnati, you know, in terms of new stadiums, I just haven't been to a lot of them, but I think Cincinnati seems like they've got a cool thing going.
Speaker 1 So maybe I'll get to visit this season, but certainly playing would have been cool.
Speaker 3
Okay, last one is from Matthew via email. You talked about the importance of the FA Cup and the history of it on last week's episode.
How do you feel about the U.S.
Speaker 3 Open Cup and MLS only sending a few clubs while prioritizing League's Cup?
Speaker 2 Go ahead, Tim.
Speaker 1 No, I'm after you.
Speaker 2 I'm going backseating this one. All right, here's my feelings.
Speaker 2 This is complicated. And
Speaker 2
we live in a society now where everybody wants to take a side. Everyone wants black or white or paper or plastic or red or green or whatever.
And this is very complicated.
Speaker 2 So I'm going to give you a fan's perspective, which I think fans love this tournament. I'm going to give you a player's perspective.
Speaker 2 Players in MLS, until you get to the quarterfinals, are like, this is annoying, right? This is just, it's just annoying because we don't have the history.
Speaker 2 They don't feel the same way they feel about the FA Cup in England.
Speaker 2 Players from San Diego Loyal, when we were in the second division, loved it.
Speaker 2 The teams we played below them them in NPSL or in lower divisions loved it because they had a chance to do something special.
Speaker 2 MLS owners hate it because they lose money. Now, maybe there's some sentimental like, oh, we can grow this and this can be special.
Speaker 2 MLS as a whole, as an entity, hates it because
Speaker 2
they lose money. There's not a lot of prestige behind it.
There's nobody in the stands until you get to the final. And then it's just fixture
Speaker 2
congestion where they could fill those dates with something like the League's Cup. So it's a really complicated dynamic.
Me personally,
Speaker 2
I love it. And I would like to see actually more money put into it.
MLS teams take it more seriously and help it grow together. I understand MLS's side of it.
Speaker 2 But I think overall, the right thing to do would be to invest money in it from U.S.
Speaker 2 soccer MLS and make it bigger and better and more valuable and then in 30 years we'll look back and go thank God we did that and the last thing we want is for this thing to peter out yeah well it's I mean it's hard to add to that explanation which was thorough and insightful I think that
Speaker 1 just from the value of the tournament I like it I like that
Speaker 1 you know,
Speaker 1 when you, when you,
Speaker 1 there's a dollars and cents aspect to this, so that has to stay on one side of the line. I mean, you can, that's a completely different part of the conversation from
Speaker 1 the player side. Again,
Speaker 1 I've been on
Speaker 1 teams in MLS where you just think we're probably not going to win the league here, but this is a really awesome opportunity for us to have a cup run and win a cup.
Speaker 1 You know, being an owner in Memphis, winning an open cup game, even a one round beating an MLS team, like it drives your season tickets. It drives
Speaker 1
excitement in the city. So, like, that that plays a huge factor.
And I know with
Speaker 1 Houston, obviously they won the Open Cup right before I got there, but that's a huge deal for our club, the Houston Dynamo, and for the city.
Speaker 1 So, I think there's, look, there's two parts of the conversation
Speaker 1 that ultimately have to get married, but I like the tournament.
Speaker 2 All right.
Speaker 3 Thanks very much, guys.
Speaker 3 Don't forget, next week we're doing lots of mailbag questions. So, let the people know what you want to hear about.
Speaker 2 Love that.
Speaker 1 Also, we need you guys to send in your questions.
Speaker 1 We're going to have an episode on February 4th about promotion relegation.
Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. And
Speaker 2
LD promotion relegation. I'm excited.
Who does not want to talk about that? It's awesome.
Speaker 1
I mean, it's going to light a few fires. It's what everybody wants to talk about.
I think it's so exciting.
Speaker 1 on both you know both sides of the argument so uh we're going to have uh we'll have a lot to say about that we need questions so send in question, guys, if even basic, like what is it?
Speaker 2
What does it mean? Super important. Or as complicated as you want so that we can dive into it and talk about it.
We're going to have some guests on and we're going to do a big thing on it.
Speaker 2 So it should be fun.
Speaker 3 Feedback at unfilteredsoccer.com is how you get your questions on the mailbag. Anyway, you're such a pretty specialty.
Speaker 2
Yeah. That's my job.
That's what I'm doing. Love it.
Love it, Jay. All right.
I'm out of here. All right, Jay.
Bye, guys. Bye-bye.
Appreciate you. All right, Timmy, anything but soccer ABS this week.
Speaker 2
A couple interesting things. First thing I want to talk about.
All right, I love this stuff. All right, so I was watching the NFL games this weekend.
Speaker 2 Kansas City Chiefs win at home.
Speaker 2 Patrick Mahomes is,
Speaker 2 I love him.
Speaker 2 I love everything about him. I know he's very polarizing.
Speaker 2
And you know why people are so annoyed by him, Tim? It's because he's so good at winning. Totally.
He's good at winning.
Speaker 2 He is good.
Speaker 2 But I love it because I play, when I played,
Speaker 2 I cared about winning.
Speaker 2
I cared about winning. Like, I wanted to win.
You can have all your goal scoring and all this BS and all that. I wanted championships, right? And like, he doesn't care.
Speaker 2 If he goes 11 for 18 and has a pick, but they win, he couldn't care less. And most people and young players in our society are now like, I want the Instagram photo of me scoring the goal and all that.
Speaker 2
And like, even if we lose 4-1, I scored the goal. And here's the highlights and all that.
And it just BS, right? And so he just cares about winning.
Speaker 2 Now, what comes with that is he's always stretching the line, dude. He's always towing the line of what's legal, what's not.
Speaker 2 And so there are a lot of calls that he gets, the Chiefs get that drive people absolutely crazy. And he puts the refs in tough positions.
Speaker 1 If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying, but keep going.
Speaker 2 That's true.
Speaker 2 He puts himself in positions where he might get hit a second late. He might just be about to step out of bounds, but then stop for a second, get hit and go flailing.
Speaker 2 He dove this weekend on the sideline, which I don't want to hear anyone tell me that soccer players dive anymore because he dove too, and I don't want to hear it anymore. But I love him.
Speaker 2 And it was interesting during the podcast because
Speaker 2 when he got two, uh, two Houston Texan Will Anderson and someone else came together on him to hit him and actually hit each other. It looked pretty bad
Speaker 2
in real life. And the ref flew a flag, threw a flag.
They can't review it in that specific instance, but during the broadcast, Troy Aikman goes, oh, come on, man. And Troy was a quarterback.
Right.
Speaker 2
And so, like, he hated it. And it's, it's a part of the game.
But what I would say to people who don't like it is,
Speaker 2
then go earn it the way he has and the Chiefs have. Right.
Michael Jordan used to get all those fouls too, like these little hand check fouls and whatever.
Speaker 2
And it's like, if you, then you go be that guy, Josh Allen, go into Kansas City this weekend and beat them and win a Super Bowl. Crazy.
And you'll get all those little calls too. Yeah.
Yep. Look,
Speaker 1
there are a lot of things I hate. Let me start by saying that.
I hate NFL refereeing. Hate it.
So much so.
Speaker 1 I remember getting on
Speaker 1 this rant and
Speaker 1 I texted my producer at NBC, Pier Musa, the great Pier Musa. And
Speaker 1 he produced more NFL games than you've ever seen in Premier League games.
Speaker 1 I think he was like, why are you calling me? And I was like, hang on a second. Listen.
Speaker 1 with the Premier League, from being in England, all they do is talk about refereing.
Speaker 1 Like referee, you talk about the game, you talk about refereeing and then what beer you're going to have in the pub.
Speaker 2 Like that, that's all anyone cares about, right?
Speaker 1 So referees' decisions are huge in the Premier League, right? And in soccer in general. And I was saying to myself, these guys get let off the hook so often, NFL referees, pass interference.
Speaker 1
That wasn't pass interference. Well, they're just going to be a spot foul, 15 yards, whatever it is.
Let's get on with it.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but yeah, but that put them in field goal position and then they won the game. Like it's so annoying when you see some of these things from the refereing standpoint.
Speaker 1 What I would say about Patrick Mahomes is
Speaker 1 we must be on the same page because I, before this became headline news, I would think that all the time.
Speaker 1 I'd be like, why don't you just, this linebacker running a million miles an hour at you, just tiptoe the sideline, step out of bounds and get hit?
Speaker 2 Because by the way, referee is going to call.
Speaker 1 What is it, roughing or late hit or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 Referee is going to call it.
Speaker 1 So you might as well use that to your advantage.
Speaker 1 listen every every advantage is is important and by the way you're your your quarterback can do it too because quarterbacks are protected so um you know i i i love um i'm obviously a giants fan but i love what what patrick mahomes is doing it's exciting um love him or hate him i tell my daughter all the time like if they're hating if they're hating on you you're doing something right so you know i it's uh i don't i i think it'd be really hard for them to three peep but by god they got every chance to do it i we both played with a guy, defender, Jeff Agis.
Speaker 2 And
Speaker 2
Goose was so good at this time. I played with him in San Jose.
So long ball gets hit over the top. Yeah.
Speaker 2
And he would be chasing it down and the forward would be chasing and the forward was behind him. So Jeff had the angle on the ball.
He would slow down.
Speaker 2 He would wait till the striker barely any contact and he would just fall straight on the ball.
Speaker 2
And he's running back towards his own goal. And people have to remember referees are human first.
Yes, it's their job, whatever, but there's so much subjectivity that's not black and white.
Speaker 2 So he would just wait for contact, fall on the ball, grab the ball with his hands, and the ref had no choice. I swear to you, maybe once in four years, did that not get called?
Speaker 2 And he did it five or six times a game.
Speaker 1 And now it happens in global football everywhere. You're like, just don't touch the guy because he's going to go.
Speaker 2
Correct. So you wait for the contact, you fall down, and it's like, okay, is that cheating? No.
Is it using the rules to your advantage? Yeah.
Speaker 2
I mean, he, yeah. I mean, so if you don't want, then don't touch him.
Better reference. Touch him, right?
Speaker 2 So it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. I am actually, incidentally, I just told my son last night, I'm going to the game this weekend.
Speaker 1 Wait, in Kansas City? Is it?
Speaker 2
In Kansas City. Oh.
Yeah. So I'm going to be able to do that.
And you get tier for that. You're a big time.
He is a huge Patrick Mahom fans.
Speaker 2 Shout out to the Hunt family who are the owners of FC Dallas because they were able to hook us up with tickets. So it's going to be so fun.
Speaker 1
You're a poor son. He's a Galaxy fan.
He's a Kansas City fan. You're setting him up for massive, massive.
Speaker 1 He's a LeBron fan, too, isn't he? Tell me, he's a LeBron fan.
Speaker 2 But you know what he said to me? You know what he said to me last night? So I told him last night and he was like, what? We get to go see Patrick Mahomes play live? I said, yeah.
Speaker 2 And he said, a couple of times we've taken him to New York or one time we took him to New York and one time we took him to Cabo. And we are not like this, but it just worked out where
Speaker 2 we brought him and he sat in first class with us.
Speaker 1 Nice.
Speaker 2 So he goes, Dad, are we going to, we're going to sit in one of those seats, right? With the big seats and they bring us food the whole time.
Speaker 2
And I was like, you know, Tal, no, we're flying Southwest this time, but we're sitting there. He was devastated.
He's like, what? I didn't even know people sat back there.
Speaker 1 Shout out to Southwest. If you're listening to the podcast, you know,
Speaker 1 we take upgrade vouchers.
Speaker 2
All right. Last thing.
I just want to real quick. The Eagles game yesterday.
Speaker 2 I don't know if you noticed, but AJ Brown, wide receiver for the Eagles, showed up to the game in an old-school Honda Accord. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 I was just thinking to myself, like, dude, he's just like one of us. Yeah, come on.
Speaker 2 Except he ain't but i love that dude he showed up in the honda accord i can't imagine like all his kids side note like did did did he get stuck in the snow because i'm guessing that honda according yeah i don't have did not get make it out of the parking lot no chance i guess he made it but i just love that dude like i love that guy and and
Speaker 2 look i mean
Speaker 2 you kind of get to a point and you probably deal with this too like It's nice to have great things, whatever, but like you just want to be comfortable in which and he probably just loves driving the car.
Speaker 2
So he just drives it. No problem.
I had a teammate, Todd Dunavant, who drove, I don't even know what it was,
Speaker 2
some old car. It had like 300,000 miles, literally Tim, for 10 years at the galaxy.
And I'm like, Todd, you're making a couple hundred grand now. Can you just buy something?
Speaker 2 Like, just something decent? Doesn't have to be like nice, but like, you just did.
Speaker 2 Um, so I'll give one good story about cars. I think you have one too.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I do. It's um,
Speaker 1
I played with a guy at Everton, uh, Mohamed Bezich. Um, and it was when Roberto Martinez was the manager.
My guy comes strolling in in a white Lambo, gorgeous, gorgeous, right?
Speaker 1
And he whips it into the player's parking lot. Just gets out strolling with the Louis Vuitton wash bag.
Everything's cool.
Speaker 1 And it's my guy, too.
Speaker 1 And sure enough, next day,
Speaker 1 Moan got the Lambo.
Speaker 1 So we're like,
Speaker 2 where'd your Lambo go?
Speaker 1 And he's like,
Speaker 1 he's like, the guy first said I have to get rid of it.
Speaker 2 I was like, what? What? What?
Speaker 1 And Roberto Martinez was like, he saw because, you know, where the manager's office is
Speaker 2 on the corner.
Speaker 1 He said, the seat's too low. Your hamstring, you're going to have hamstring injuries from
Speaker 2
and he made him silly. He made himself because he thought it was physically bad for him.
Oh my god, yeah, God bless him. And so, Mo and
Speaker 1
Mo was one of the one of the best guys I ever played with. He was like, Okay, sold land.
Poor fella.
Speaker 2
We had a guy in San Jose. We drafted him.
I don't know. I think he was the first overall pick, maybe, or second overall pick to us.
Speaker 2 And
Speaker 2 Chris Carrieri, so he shows up i i know from north carolina or something you know
Speaker 2 exactly yeah so he shows up his first day
Speaker 2 and it's like a preseason it's like february march top down this like bright red corvette right and like for a guy who was making like 30 grand we were like where the hell did he get all this money so we were all humble like nobody was making money back then in mls and he shows up in this bright red corvette strolling in and we were and it was like dude you really that's the first impression you want to make so we called him corvetti forever i think he played in the league for like two years.
Speaker 1
I remember that. It's absolutely cool.
Corvetti.
Speaker 2
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