Messi & Miami Out, Bruce Arena In, MLS Playoff Recap, USMNT vs Jamaica Preview

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Speaker 2 The playoffs are heating up. There's been some incredible results, some great series.
LAFC beat Vancouver. NYCFC upset Cincinnati.
I was surprised at that one.

Speaker 2 Orlando City just advanced past Charlotte.

Speaker 2 But the one everyone's talking about, LB, the one everyone's talking about is the one with Lionel Messi and Intra Miami going down in three games to Atlanta United. Wow.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, first of all, from MLS's standpoint, they have to be ecstatic about the way the playoff format has gone.

Speaker 1 But I'm guessing there were a lot of... A lot of tissues and tears cried at the league offices after Messi went out the other night.

Speaker 1 I think the only person who was more upset than Messi was Don Garber, probably. And

Speaker 1 it's sad for the league to see him go, but Atlanta deserved it. Our boy Brad Guzan was the hero.
I think he was the star of the show.

Speaker 1 Do you see the video of him and Arthur Blank after Arthur Blank, the Atlanta United owner, he of Home Depot starred him?

Speaker 1 They're hugging together, drinking beers together, and

Speaker 1 Brad's pumping him on the back and saying, great job, Artie.

Speaker 2 Anybody who's been pawed on the back by Brad Gazant knows that's not a nice feeling.

Speaker 1 It's going to leave a mark.

Speaker 2 But listen, I mean, it was that series had everything.

Speaker 2 It's always fun, I guess, if you're neutral to watch the underdog

Speaker 2 win. It's such an interesting concept when you look at Messi and what they've done.
Supporter Shield, chasing the points total, all-time points total.

Speaker 2 them winning without Messi at times during the season. I mean,

Speaker 2 it's been one heck of a sideshow, but unfortunately, they lost.

Speaker 1 And that happens. And, you know, the

Speaker 1 Atlanta, first of all, Atlanta deserved it. This was not like some, if you would do it over three games, you deserve it.
This is not some fluke, right?

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 somewhat controversial, I don't know how you feel, but like somewhat controversial play,

Speaker 1 Tomas Aviles for Inner Miami. Miami had just tied the game.
Messi with the header to tie the game. He's trying to wheel his team back.
So it's 2-2.

Speaker 1 Atlanta are attacking. And Aviles, Inner Miami player, goes down in his own penalty area while the play is developing.

Speaker 1 And seemingly is either cramping or injured or something. He goes down.
And the inner Miami players, some of them kind of stop playing.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 1 And Atlanta United have the ball and serve it into the box. And great header score to make it 3-2 and end up winning the game.
And Miami were sort of...

Speaker 1 aggrieved by it, but I mean, you don't have to kick the ball out. The rules say you do not have to kick.
It's the referee's discretion, discretion, player's discretion. You don't have to kick it out.

Speaker 2 Look, you'll never convince me otherwise. If there's a head injury and it's an apparent head injury, the referee has an obligation to stop the game.
We all know that.

Speaker 2 The fact of the matter is, and you and I have been on

Speaker 2 both sides of this, you don't have to kick the ball out. If a player is injured, the rule states you do not have to kick the ball.
It's at the discretion of the team in possession.

Speaker 2 By the way, keep playing. If you want to stop the game because you're so worried about your player being down, go hack somebody down.

Speaker 2 Go take a foul, take a yellow card, whatever the case is, but don't stop playing and then pretend you're gonna argue that's not even that's not even in question so for me that's that's null and void atlanta won this fair and square i thought it was great it had everything had spice i mean even so much so that the inner miami players after the game didn't want to shake hands for me that's brilliant i think it's great i mean good for them well i mean i don't i don't like that i think oh just shake their hand right i mean yeah yes say sportsmanship congratulations for sure i mean i saw messi walked right off the field and you know maybe in the locker room they all came out and said, congrats and whatever.

Speaker 1 But they were, and by the way, your fans are out there too, right? So at least congratulate them on a great season and thank them for all the support they've had.

Speaker 1 And, you know, just getting back to this by going down in the box thing, this,

Speaker 1 I was coaching in NWSL the last part of this year, and I saw this in almost every NWSL game, literally like clockwork, 10, 15, 20 minutes into the game. goalkeepers on the ground saying she's injured.

Speaker 1 Ref calls out the trainer. Every player comes over to the sideline and the coaches like change everything about their whole game plan that they had, right?

Speaker 1 Well, my first comment is, well, if your game plan is always changing that much, what are you about? Do you have any identity? Are you just always changing to the opponent?

Speaker 1 Second, it just became such a joke. Everybody knows what's going on.
It's just such a joke. And so what I think.

Speaker 1 you know, what I'm waiting to happen, and I bet you this does happen because anytime there's, there's new rules put into anywhere in life, people take advantage of it, right?

Speaker 1 Any walk walk of life, there's a new rule, people take advantage of it.

Speaker 1 There's a new tax code put in, everybody's taking advantage of it, right? So like, so the caveat is if you go down with a head injury in your own penalty area,

Speaker 1 the referee has to blow the whistle, stop the play. And guess what happens after the play resumes?

Speaker 1 It goes to the team that was defending, right? So if Carlos Bocanegra is defending your penalty area, goes down with a head injury, the ref blows the whistle. The other team could be on a a breakaway.

Speaker 1 Totally. Blows the whistle.
You get the ball back. Yeah.
Right. You, as the defending team, get the ball back.
And so

Speaker 1 I'm wondering. Yeah.
I'm wondering what, like, if he had gone down with a head injury, the ref might have blown it and they would have got the ball. They would have stopped the attack.

Speaker 1 Well, at some point, I'm waiting for this because it's becoming a bit of a joke. So I'm waiting for it to happen.

Speaker 2 I tend to agree with that. Look, when I talk about the sportsmanship aspect, I do like a little bit of housery.
When you can get under the skin of another team, should they have shake of hands?

Speaker 2 Of course. Of course.

Speaker 2 I even hated myself when I walked off the field sometimes because I was angry. You know,

Speaker 2 it's good to shake hands and give people their flowers. Listen, we know you all have comments and opinions on Messi.
Send them to us at Unfiltered Soccer.

Speaker 2 We'd love to hear what you have to say. Some tasty matchups in the second round.
There's going to be some single elimination games. You've got the Hudson River Derby, New York City FC Red Bull.

Speaker 2 You got LAFC versus the Sounders. You've got the dirty South Derby, which you named it that.

Speaker 2 South. Orlando City and Atlanta.
And then LA Galaxy, Minnesota. So, I mean, these are going to be some spicy, tasty matchups.
Really looking forward to them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's going to be fun. It's going to be a good

Speaker 1 few weeks, few games coming up. As Ricky Pooch said for the Galaxy, I think he said we have

Speaker 1 22 days in between games. So

Speaker 1 can you please be better? And I think he and the Galaxy were happy with the format.

Speaker 1 One who was not happy with the format was Jordi Alba from Miami.

Speaker 1 He said, it's clear to me that it's been done this way for years, but if you ask me, and if it were up to me, I'd have the champion of the conference against the champion of the other to make it as fair as possible.

Speaker 1 I don't know where he came up with that. I do repeat, congrats to the rival team.
He wouldn't even say their name. Probably doesn't even know their name.

Speaker 1 I think they competed very well against us. They knew their weapons.
The goalkeeper was spectacular and good. I think that is clearly what marked the difference, but he's not happy with this format.

Speaker 1 You know about the format going in. Don't complain about it Bro, you know what this means?

Speaker 2 This feels like a welcome to America moment. We love a playoff.
We love an upset. Like, I get it.
Most people aren't on the fence. They either love the single table or they love the playoffs.

Speaker 2 I kind of get it. I've played in both systems.

Speaker 2 You know, in America, we love a playoff. We love, we love an underdog.
And that's just kind of how things are scripted for us. So there's always next year for Jordi Alba and

Speaker 2 Enter Miami, but this is the format and this is how you got to do it.

Speaker 1 Well, also coming next year,

Speaker 1 a good friend of ours back on the sidelines, Bruce Serena, named MLS coach and general manager of the San Jose earthquake.

Speaker 1 I just want to say, real quick: the important part there is that he's the general manager. Correct.
The way they've built that roster over the last five years or so has been a total disaster.

Speaker 1 It's just a total mess.

Speaker 1 And Bruce has a lot of house cleaning to do. I remember he would always say this when he first came to the galaxy in 09,

Speaker 2 from 09 then to 2010 or maybe 08 to 2009 i think he only kept four players on the roster and he just did a full house cleaning i would expect him to do the same thing i mean san jose was worst team in mls in 2024 and and again he has the autonomy from having the role of gm and what i would say is you look at people like bruce arena bob bradley's another name um Greg Berholter.

Speaker 2 These are guys in the game who are going to going to have those titles.

Speaker 1 They're going to go into an interview and look at the the club holistically and say i i have to have more than just being the coach because i have ideas i have thoughts and they have the power to do it so hats off to bruce well he wouldn't have done it otherwise i mean everywhere he's gone he's done that and that's how he's successful and so just to address real quick what happened in new england because i think it's important for people to hear so he went to new england did a great job turning around the club to some of his backroom staff made some what he would agree are inappropriate comments

Speaker 1 um Those comments were,

Speaker 1 in my opinion, disgustingly then used against him as opposed to just saying, hey, Bruce, please don't say that. He has said that he made mistakes.

Speaker 1 He was suspended by the league, and only in December was he able to be reinstated after doing a lot of work and working on himself and being contrite.

Speaker 1 Those of us who know Bruce and I've known him since I was 16,

Speaker 1 he's like a father to me. He is a very good human being who says a lot of bad things at times.
And we're in 2024 now, Tim. There's things you cannot say and that are not appropriate.

Speaker 1 And he's aware of that. And I'm sure he will change for the better for it.
But this is not a bad human being.

Speaker 1 There are a lot of people in MLS who probably shouldn't be there, but he is not one of them.

Speaker 2 I agree with you. And look,

Speaker 2 we are in a new day and age. And it's not just about telling someone to not say it.
It's about helping to educate them and they can better themselves. Bruce Serena has done that.

Speaker 2 He's been very apologetic. And ultimately, America is the land of second chances.
We know that from top to bottom.

Speaker 2 And so I'm glad he's getting a second chance that he hasn't been completely ostracized because the league is going to be a better league with a coach like Bruce Arena in it. So happy to see him back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, agreed. And one guy we also hope to see back at some point is Jim Curtin, who was let go by the Philadelphia Union.
I hate this. I cannot tell you how much I hate this.

Speaker 1 Sports are about expectations. Philadelphia Union, when Jim Curtin took over, were an afterthought.
Nobody thought about them.

Speaker 1 They were an exciting new club, whatever, but nobody thought about him in the same way.

Speaker 1 Since he's been there, this is the first time this year that they've missed the playoffs since 2017.

Speaker 1 Two-time MLS coach of the year. They won the Supporter Shield in 2020.
They lost the MLS Cup final to LAFC. Three times they've been the Open Cup runner-up.

Speaker 1 Twice, they've been to the semis of the CONCACAF Champions Cup. I mean, what else can this guy do?

Speaker 1 And by the way, according to capology.com, they had the second lowest payroll of any team in MLS this year. And now you're firing because he has one bad year.

Speaker 1 And look, we don't have all the context what's going on behind the scenes, except, but he's a great human being.

Speaker 1 Jim's a great, everybody loves him. And this is just a joke.
To me, it's just a joke.

Speaker 2 I think the good news is that somebody... soon is going to get a very, very good coach.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 look, the expectations aside, and you'll never convince me otherwise, so don't try, even though you can send us your comments.

Speaker 2 Winning is everything to me. Like, if you have a guy who's a winner and you happen to have a down year, so be it.
Forget all the outside vitriol and all the noise. You've got a really, really

Speaker 2 good to great in this league in the MLS head coach. You've had one bad season.
Certainly his resume and his history. dictates that he gets another chance, right?

Speaker 2 And what he's done on a low budget at a club that that sells young players, the fact that he's had that success, it's difficult. It's difficult to see that.
And

Speaker 2 for him to be let go, but as I said, someone is going to get a very, very good head coach. But, Tim, what

Speaker 1 like the grass is very rarely greener, and people just don't understand this in sports. Like, what is, what else is could he possibly have done with that team, given the roster he had every year?

Speaker 1 They're not, if imagine they spent like Inner Miami or the Galaxy or Sounders or whoever, LAFC. They don't.
And they get to this point.

Speaker 1 It's a miracle. It's literally a miracle that they do as well as they do.

Speaker 1 And now, I mean, just be careful what you wish for, man, because

Speaker 1 it's going to be hard to find Jim Curtin again.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's somewhat short-sighted. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Anyway, let's take a break. We will be back on the other side talking.
A lot of U.S. men's national team.
We'll get to the Premier League this weekend as well. Lots to chat about.
We'll be right back.

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This is a segment we like to call USLNT on USMNT. It is international break.

Speaker 1 We all love an international break.

Speaker 2 It's the best time, best time of year.

Speaker 2 U.S. will face Jamaica in the quarterfinals of the CONCACAF Nations League.
Big game for you. Talk to me.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Where have we gotten where people are worried slash

Speaker 1 and talking a lot about a quarterfinal against Jamaica? I mean,

Speaker 1 this should not be a contest, right? So I understand all of the

Speaker 1 challenges with travel and, you know, are the players fully, fully up for it, whatever. But it's Jamaica, man.
Like

Speaker 1 we beat Panama a few weeks ago and everyone was going crazy. And then we go to Mexico and look terrible.

Speaker 1 And so this is a two-leg series that we need to win and we need to win convincingly and move on. As simple as that.

Speaker 2 I mean, listen,

Speaker 2 without being disrespectful, it should be a layup, right? In terms of a talent standpoint,

Speaker 2 the U.S. should take care of business.
Hopefully, you know, I think the ideal situation would be take care of business in the first leg, right?

Speaker 2 And then be able to kind of chop and change a little bit for Pochatino to see some players.

Speaker 2 We'll see what happens. I'm not, you know, I tend to think like you,

Speaker 2 the U.S. should take care of business and it shouldn't be that big of a deal.
I think the bigger question is the roster and the, you know, the audit of the roster and how we feel about it.

Speaker 2 Of course, Pachatino is looking at new faces. Do you have any concerns in any particular areas with this roster?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I do. And I'll just, I'm just going to go through positionally and I want to hear your thoughts too.

Speaker 1 My bigger thing is, we expect now, probably unrealistically, what this roster should should look like and how this team should play.

Speaker 1 When I just objectively, and obviously I'm a huge, as you are, national team fan, men's and women's, right?

Speaker 1 If you just objectively look at the roster, where our guys play and what kind of impact they're having,

Speaker 1 you have to then be realistic about where this team is, right?

Speaker 1 And I've said this before, but when you look at France's roster or Brazil's roster or Spain's roster, I mean, they have world-class players all over the field.

Speaker 1 That doesn't mean we can't compete with these teams. It doesn't mean we can't compete with them, but let's not go into these games saying we should be, you know, we should be on par with these.

Speaker 1 No, we shouldn't. I mean, we went to Mexico and got our ass kicked three weeks ago, right? Like that's, that's the reality of where the roster is.
Now, the best players make us way better.

Speaker 1 And I spoke to someone inside U.S. soccer a couple of days ago who's very, very close to that team.
And he said, look, when our best players are on the field, we can compete. And when they're not,

Speaker 1 we're just not that good. We're not.
And so here, you know, I'll just run through it. So,

Speaker 1 you know, I'm going to hear your thoughts on this for sure. Goalkeeping, to me, is a massive concern.

Speaker 1 I mean, we don't have anybody playing at a high level consistently right now that I would say has absolutely just said, this is my spot. Wide with Serginho and Jedi,

Speaker 1 solid, but essentially there are a lot of question marks. There are.
They're just question marks. Our midfield is, I think, strongest part of our team outside of Christian in the attack.

Speaker 1 Tim Wea now playing well. Hopefully that continues.

Speaker 1 As always, number nine is going to be a problem, depending on where Flow's at at any given time. And then our depth is just a huge,

Speaker 1 huge problem. I mean, the depth is a huge problem.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 I echo some of those thoughts. The fact of the matter is, one of my biggest gripes going into the 2022 World Cup was

Speaker 2 I just don't see our best players in the lead up. And the leadup can be a year.
We didn't get our best players on the field consistently enough together, right?

Speaker 2 So then at the World Cup, they were together, but they hadn't been in the trenches. They hadn't been through the difficult moments together.
That's where you build trust.

Speaker 2 That's where you build team camaraderie. That's where you build this ability to get through big moments.
And so we can go back a few weeks to Mexico and Christian Police, the captain, left to go home.

Speaker 2 That's fine. That's fine.
People have an opinion on it. But going down to Mexico with your full squad in a game that's going to be tough, away from home, and nasty builds character.

Speaker 2 Like you can, you can lean on that in two years' time. And every time you miss an opportunity like that, it's tough.

Speaker 1 Well, don't forget, Tim, we don't have qualifying. Right.
So like these other tournaments are great and gold cups gray.

Speaker 1 But it's qualifying is when you're really up against the fall and you know it. And I'm like, I'm getting goosebumps talking about it.

Speaker 1 There's games where you go in and you're like, if we lose, we're not going to the World Cup.

Speaker 1 And those guys lived it in 2018, right? Like we're not going to the World Cup.

Speaker 1 And you have to feel that. So when you go to Mexico, it's like, okay, it's a friendly, whatever, but you're in that stadium.
You're like, shit, this is real.

Speaker 2 I mean, what you don't, right, what you don't get, and I worry about the not having to qualify.

Speaker 2 You and I have been on that bus down that long, desolate road, heading to San Pedro, Sula in Honduras, and it's two hours before kickoff.

Speaker 2 And there's people, streams of people walking down a country road. And you pull into the stadium and it is packed.
People are dancing. I mean, there is, there's not a seat to be had.

Speaker 2 And you're like, oh, oh, we're in something right now. And you don't get that when you don't have qualifying, simply put.
So, yeah, look, I worry about the makeup of the team.

Speaker 2 Again, a lot of our goalkeepers currently aren't getting,

Speaker 2 aren't getting top minutes.

Speaker 2 I think a couple of them are getting overlooked defensively. Under Great Bro Holter, these defenders were asked to play expansive and probably to me, it seemed like square pegs and round holes.

Speaker 2 Is there enough to have a solid back four that don't go too far that defend? Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2 The midfield for me is where, as you mentioned, our best players are, simply put. And if we can get a collection of them together, you know, you look at Gio Reina, you look at Musa.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Tyler's back playing. Tyler's back.

Speaker 2 Yeah, which is great that Tyler is back fit. Can he stay fit? Like that's that's going to be where games are won and lost for us.
And then up front, big question mark.

Speaker 2 We haven't had a number nine in a long time you know a reliable number nine like a josie altador um that's going to get you goals on a regular basis um and don't forget the last generation had josie altador who was who was the goal getter but they also had you and clint dempsey who are you know u.s soccer's leading goal scorers right so when the number nine couldn't carry the weight you you guys jumped in so we don't necessarily have that with this team um it's going to have to happen fast yeah well what what happens tim that the reason why that's valuable having people adding in goals and

Speaker 1 putting fear in players is you cannot then just focus on Christian, right?

Speaker 1 So like if Weston is getting forward and consistently scoring, if Tim Wea is consistently scoring, Flo's playing well, now you go, okay, well, you want to hone in on Christian and try to take him out?

Speaker 1 Fine. Other people will score.

Speaker 1 And that everybody else was a benefit. I was a beneficiary of Clint being on the field.
Correct. Right.

Speaker 1 When Clint and Josie were on the field, I could sometimes float and hide and show up in the right spot and they'd forgotten about me. Bang, it's in the net.
Right.

Speaker 1 And right now we don't have enough of that. So hopefully, Tim Wea keeps going and

Speaker 1 we can find that. I'd be curious from our listeners, leave us a comment on Unfiltered Soccer YouTube page.
Let us know what you think is the best team right now.

Speaker 1 Walk through with us what we just talked through. Are you concerned, feel good about all the different facets, goalkeeping, defending, or midfield, our attack, and our depth?

Speaker 1 We'll find out on the coach, right, over time. But there's not a whole lot what Chattino can do in a short period of time.
So

Speaker 1 it's going to be an interesting break.

Speaker 1 I hope, Tim, I could be wrong. I hope we skate through it easily.

Speaker 1 And I also similarly hope everyone doesn't go crazy if we do and say we're the best team in the world because we still have a long way to go. But

Speaker 1 this is now where it really starts to matter for us.

Speaker 2 It does matter. And by the way, if we don't skate through this, not saying the games are hard, then we've got.

Speaker 2 a whole lot more to dig into on the next few episodes of this podcast because there's a problem if we don't, simply put.

Speaker 1 All right. We'll take a break when we come back.
Some Premier League. We'll get into some other stuff, some mailbag questions from you guys and some anything but soccer, one of our favorite segments.

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Speaker 1 All right, Tim, between your work, your daughter, your son, or maybe just your own enjoyment, how much traveling do you think you've done to see soccer this year?

Speaker 2 Honestly, I've lost track at this point.

Speaker 2 You know, just this summer alone, I was all over the place.

Speaker 2 But it is, it's a beautiful thing to see how many soccer fans and how soccer has been embraced no matter where we go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I was just in Austin. I'll be traveling to New York.
Everywhere I go, I meet fans. Whether I'm going to see a game myself or just on vacation, I see people everywhere.
I hear stories.

Speaker 1 I hear stories about their pilgrimage to Everton to go watch a game, to go see the new stadium, to go see their favorite team.

Speaker 1 They get immersed in the chants, the songs, that incredible feeling of seeing the game up close and personal.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, I think that's where the game has changed. These trips have become a big deal for soccer fans.

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Speaker 2 LD, for me, the holidays are all about connection to family and to friends. We host a lot.
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Okay, LD, let's get into some Premier League action. Man City fans don't hate me or do.

Speaker 1 I've dealt with it before.

Speaker 2 But what is they lost, City lost 2-1 to Brighton on the weekend, making it the fourth straight loss for Manchester City all competitions. What's going on there? Talk to me.

Speaker 1 Sports is all about expectations, right? If you're not expected to be in the top six in the Premier League and you finish fifth, you're the best team in the, world. Everyone's

Speaker 1 your man city and you lose four in a row. You're, you know, people are like, what's going on? Can we just take a moment? Pep has never lost four games in a row.
Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 Now, that's a phenomenal record. I don't care what great teams you've played at.
City haven't lost four in a row since 06. Yep.

Speaker 1 So this is,

Speaker 1 this guy is a genius. But I will say, I will say.

Speaker 1 Teams now are not fearing them. And that is the biggest thing.
And we've been in those shoes where you're like,

Speaker 1 this is a national team parallel too.

Speaker 1 When we would go to Jamaica, they were like, oh, we're playing the national team. Now they're probably like, I don't know.
There's got a little sign-off, right?

Speaker 1 And I remember the first time, Tim, the first time Panama beat us at home.

Speaker 1 And you could see in their eyes, they were like, oh my God, this is possible. Right now with Citi.
Brighton's like, hey, we can win this game.

Speaker 2 Totally.

Speaker 1 And they believed it. I mean, they really believed it.

Speaker 2 Well, you could see it as well.

Speaker 2 well i mean the city this is what happens when you're at the top and you set a standard city is is the best team in the world and for all the obvious reasons and the fact of the matter is you you end up losing four in a row and it's like a boxer right a boxer's never been knocked out before as soon as he gets knocked out that chin is a little bit wobbly right and team and and and fighters don't fear you as much that's what's happening um with city at the moment teams feel like they have a chance and look the stats are telling you they're conceding early goals that's never been the case before normally they score a goal and then they go on to score three or four.

Speaker 2 Teams think, hey, if we stick at this long enough, if we stay in the game, City are going to concede because the stats are telling us they've been conceding at a rate that

Speaker 2 hasn't really happened under Pep Gordiola. What I would say is, am I concerned? A little bit if I'm City, but here, here's the other thing.

Speaker 2 I have nothing to back that up with. Every time under Pep Guardiola, there's been a problem, they've bounced back.

Speaker 2 They've figured out some way to hit some form, win 10, 12, 20 games in a row, and go on a run.

Speaker 2 So my expectation is while there's cause for concern, do I think City will go on a run that matches something they've done in the past? Yes, I do.

Speaker 2 I do think that, which then, for me, puts the onus on Liverpool. I think City are going to make a run.
That much I know.

Speaker 2 The question now is, with Liverpool being at the top of the table, playing brilliant under the new manager, Arna Slot, can they handle the onslaught and the pressure of being on top?

Speaker 2 That's the question for me.

Speaker 1 Well, I know if I was Rodri's agent right now, I'd be on the phone with City saying, hey, guys,

Speaker 1 there's a coincidence here, but I don't think it's a coincidence, right? When he got injured, this is when this happened. And he is,

Speaker 1 you always find out how valuable a player is when they're not on the field. Not when they're on the field.

Speaker 1 It's because when they're on the field, you get used to it and everyone thinks it's just normal and natural. Goes off the field and you go, oh, damn.

Speaker 1 And so he's vital to that team and does so much for that and for Spain, by the way.

Speaker 1 And it just makes you realize how good that guy is.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And by the way, Pep knows Pep knows that too, right? Like he can kind of play with a false nine if Holland's not there, even though Holland's the best tricker in the world.

Speaker 2 Kevin Nebronna, people can fill his boots, even though he's brilliant. Pep knows there ain't nobody filling Roger's boots.

Speaker 1 And so he's why is it always like, why is it always that position that's so valid?

Speaker 1 Like, I remember with early days with the national team, like when Chris Armis was on the field, it was just like, we were just different.

Speaker 1 When Claudio was at his best, when Pablo, when Michael Bradley was at his best, you'd just be like. That's the guy who can't come off the field.
Sure.

Speaker 1 You know, I don't know what it is, just that position.

Speaker 2 I think it's the heartbeat.

Speaker 2 I think, I think it's their ability to drop into the back four, protect the back four, be good on set pieces, create tempo, be unselfish in terms of like, hey, I'm going to break things up, give you the ball, you go forward.

Speaker 2 I mean, it happened on our teams, right? Sixes, Michael Bradley, particularly in our era, he would break things up, give the facilitate, give the ball to you, give the ball to Clint, and watch it go.

Speaker 2 And then there's a leadership element to it that, you know, when I look at a Rodri, Rodri's basically Pep Guardiola incarnated on the pitch, right? And, and not everybody can do that or be that.

Speaker 2 So interesting.

Speaker 1 He's the

Speaker 1 Dax McCarty of Man City.

Speaker 2 That's, that's big praise for Dax McCarty.

Speaker 1 You're welcome, Dax. It's a big shout out.
Big praise for Rodri.

Speaker 2 I wasn't. I wasn't expecting you to go there.

Speaker 2 You know, we talked about city struggles and how Liverpool are essentially the beneficiaries of that, although

Speaker 2 they're playing really, really well. And yes, City are stumbling, but

Speaker 2 they're playing fantastic, probably ahead of schedule from everybody. I don't think anybody could have seen this coming.

Speaker 2 I know Klopp left a really solid squad, which is why people were like, well, Klopp, why are you leaving? But the fact of the matter is, Slot has come in and done brilliantly for them.

Speaker 2 He's changed the tune. He's gone away from that heavy metal football pressing, counterpressing to kind of sitting back a little bit, creating tempo in the right moments.

Speaker 2 And the team has responded with unbelievable performances individually and collectively. So,

Speaker 2 yeah, hats off to them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's been

Speaker 1 now the blueprint in how you come in after a legend.

Speaker 1 Most fail,

Speaker 1 but he hasn't. He's been brilliant.

Speaker 1 Speaking of Liverpool, this is an interesting story. Premier League referee David Koot has been suspended.

Speaker 1 This just came up this morning following the release of a video of him making some interesting comments about Jürgen Klopp.

Speaker 1 He had some not safe for internet or work comments about Jürgen Jürgen Klopp said he is a

Speaker 1 C word. He said Liverpool are sh

Speaker 1 and went on to disparage him quite a bit.

Speaker 1 I'm guessing he's never refing again in the Premier League.

Speaker 2 I mean, oh, I can't see it. I can't see it.
I think it's a big problem.

Speaker 2 Look, let's dig into this a little bit. What I saw in the video was his eyes were telling a different story than his mouth was.
So that's a starting point, right? And

Speaker 2 I can't make any accusations of

Speaker 2 what was ingested before that. But I don't have this like massive problem with what he's saying.
Hear me out. I abused referees.

Speaker 2 I said things I should have never said. Most of the time, I was very apologetic afterward, or I went home, looked at myself in the mirror and thought, Tim, you should have said that, right?

Speaker 2 But the fact of the matter is that referee also went home because he's human. And I would be shocked if he didn't go, oh, that Tim Howard, what a lovely guy.
He probably said, you know what?

Speaker 1 He's a beep, beep, beep, right?

Speaker 2 Like he has an opinion and he's a human being and he's supposed to be neutral. Of course, he is.

Speaker 2 But the fact of the matter is, if you abuse somebody, don't expect them to have something nice to say about you. And that's what happened in the case with David Kooten and Jürgen Klopp.

Speaker 2 And so the big mistake he made was not having an opinion on how he felt about somebody because he's human.

Speaker 2 The problem is

Speaker 2 he allowed himself to be video recorded. And look, let me speak on this.

Speaker 2 I've had teammates get in big, big trouble because their mates or somebody from home had a recording of them and they wanted to sensationalize it.

Speaker 2 And you know this because you and I played at Everton together. Football players in England and around the world are godlike figures.
Even your schoolmates, even your family want a piece of the pie.

Speaker 2 So what happens is, is it like malicious and blackmailed? No. But what this guy did, I guarantee it was like, hey, my mate, he's a Premier League ref.
You'll never guess what he said about Liverpool.

Speaker 2 Boom. He sends it to somebody else.
Then there are spider webs and then the game of telephone happens and someone ends up with the tape they shouldn't end up with.

Speaker 2 And it's a sad state of affairs, man.

Speaker 2 Again, I don't have a problem with what he said simply because that's his opinion of a situation that he's been in that wasn't really nice, an interaction with a manager that wasn't really nice.

Speaker 2 You got to be careful. Once you say it and it's out of the bag, the PGMOL is going to have to suspend him.
They're going to fine him. Yeah.
Well, he can't.

Speaker 1 I mean, he can't ref again. I don't think so.
I mean, you just don't think so. So here was, this was an issue.

Speaker 1 When I went to Everton, and you, I think, you were more used to it because you'd been in the Premier League for so long at that point.

Speaker 1 So, we played a game away at Wigan, and just before halftime, I like got into a tackle. I fell on the ground, and I don't remember who it was, but he kicked the ball.

Speaker 1 And I thought he, I thought he kicked it hard. So, I'm laying on the ground.
He kicks it at me, and I look at the ref, and I said, just kick the ball at me. What's going on here?

Speaker 1 And he looked at me and he goes, get up. My grandma can kick harder than that.
Right.

Speaker 1 And so in the moment, I was shocked because like I had never heard a referee speak to me that way, yeah, ever. And

Speaker 1 in some ways, like, when I hear people like you and other players in England talk about it, it's funny because it's banter, whatever.

Speaker 1 But then I was thinking to myself, I'm like, you can't be speaking to players like that. You shouldn't, and they do.

Speaker 1 And there's like this culture in England where, like, it's funny and they can banter and all that. So I'm like, no, just shut up and do your job.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 Like, if I berate you and go after you, book me. Fine.
But don't be trying to like be cute and make all this banter and stuff. Get out of here, dude.

Speaker 2 it's hard it's hard and that's where the line gets crossed right because he's like oh whatever klops this and it's like okay well you're you're gonna suffer for that though yeah and yeah that's kind of why you just have to walk the line even though he has an opinion um moral of the story just don't let people videotape you it never it never ends well in

Speaker 2 any walk of life um speaking of more controversy uh manchester united who are under the tutelage at the moment of uh Rude Van Esteroy

Speaker 2 before Amarin comes in from Sporting Lisbon to take over over

Speaker 2 this week, actually, they beat Lester pretty handily, 3-0.

Speaker 2 Alejandro Garnacho, a player who I really like, young player, Starlet on the wing, scored an incredible goal, an incredible goal, but refused to celebrate. It was at Old Trafford.

Speaker 2 He's been taking some stick. The team's been taking some stick.

Speaker 2 My issue with it is this.

Speaker 2 Going back to not videotaping yourself, his brother. By the way, he's got a lot to say on social media as well.
Like, sort your family out, tell them to come to the games and clap and then go home.

Speaker 2 home never mind being on social media and here's the other thing i know he's a young kid and and i don't think manchester united have a lot of leadership because if you do you can kind of grab him and say look this is how it works the team's stunk they got your manager fired like the fans have a right to boo and to be upset and like this whole concept of you're not going to celebrate like that's only on and he's a young player it's only going to heat more pressure on the kid because the fact of the matter is you know this i've only scored one goal for those listening um

Speaker 1 you were there you scored i was there and you celebrated with me but you you scored a lot of goals and like that's actually a time to kind of let out your anger and your frustration and your emotion like there's no need to keep it in because it's going to backfire well if he let it out he might have you know done something stupid which is fine which is fine i don't mind that right well look emeron starts starts today started today so this is one of his first big tasks not just garnacha but can you get them to believe in the club again and love the club because players go i mean he right now does not he doesn't like the club, right?

Speaker 1 He doesn't. He doesn't like the fans.
He doesn't like his experience. He doesn't like how it's going.
So they need somebody who will help them.

Speaker 1 But forget about the on the field and winning and all that. That's a byproduct.
Can you love the club? Can you be connected to the club in a meaningful way?

Speaker 1 And that's Emiram's, I think, his number one. That's his number one priority early.
Of course, he wants to win. They have to win, but they're not going anywhere this year, right?

Speaker 1 So mid-table, top of the table-ish

Speaker 1 finish is fine. But you need to start to build a new culture because this is this is the low of the low.
When you players aren't even celebrating at home, I mean, that's bad, man.

Speaker 2 That's the problem. It hasn't been culture since Sir Alex Ferguson left.
It's been 11 years. So, big job for Ruben Emerin, but I think he can get it done.
I like him.

Speaker 1 We'll find out. I think so.
I mean, he, by the way,

Speaker 1 his first real Derby with him beating City last week was crazy. That's pretty special.

Speaker 2 The football gods are real.

Speaker 2 It's a real thing.

Speaker 1 It's amazing how that happens. Well, you guys let us know your thoughts.
I'm curious.

Speaker 1 Are you okay with Garnacho doing that? Are you not? Let us know.

Speaker 1 You're probably more fine with it than I am.

Speaker 1 I'm not a huge. I can understand why you're frustrated if you're him, but they do need leadership, by the way, Tim.

Speaker 1 If I had done that, you would have grabbed me by the throat and said, hey, what are you doing? Enough of that.

Speaker 2 They don't have it.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's get into some mailbag.
Yes. Jordan.
Jordan, get in here.

Speaker 1 Come on in.

Speaker 2 Hello. Jordan, one of our producers is our mailbag expert.
She takes all of your questions and feeds them to us. So hard-hitting ones, please.

Speaker 3 Okay, let's start with if you could insert one retired U.S. men's national team player into the current lineup.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 just one? That's a great question, by the way.

Speaker 1 Okay, give me a sec.

Speaker 2 Tim Howard,

Speaker 2 there's no way compared to who else is.

Speaker 1 All right. To be honest, right now, given the goalkeeping situation, I think I would.
I think I would. I think that's what this team needs more, probably more than anything right now.
Yeah. So,

Speaker 1 that's a terrible question, by the way, to stroke his ego.

Speaker 2 Listen, it's the answer. The answer is simple.
You and Clint, I can't pick one. I mean, you guys,

Speaker 2 between you, there's goals, there's hunger.

Speaker 1 One of the two people can't keep the ball out of the net, pal.

Speaker 2 No, no, it's a tough job.

Speaker 1 All right, what's next? Next.

Speaker 3 How about a

Speaker 3 fake scenario? In a freaky Friday situation where you guys swapped, do you think Landon is a better keeper than Tim is a forward or vice versa?

Speaker 1 I'm that's a great question, actually.

Speaker 2 Give me your opinion. There's only one answer.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, there's not actually.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you this. So when I came to Loyal, or sorry, when I was at Loyal, we had, I would go to goalkeepers.
So I was out coaching. I would walk over to the goalkeepers.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 you know, like in warm-up where the goalkeeper coach holds the ball, like drops it and volleys it at you and you catch it. That's like every goalkeeper in the world.
Sure.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 So this is like 10 yards away. Sometimes the goalie would drop the ball, right? And it comes to him.
And I said to our goalkeeper coach, Matt Hall, I said, Matt,

Speaker 1 I played sports my whole life. If you gave me gloves and you kicked a thousand balls at me from 10 yards, I would never drop one, ever.
I would never drop the ball, ever.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, how is this possible? No, it's not a lie. It's a lie.

Speaker 2 It's just like hand-eye court.

Speaker 1 And it's easy. I could do it all day.
But I'm like, how can these guys not catch a soccer ball every time it comes to them?

Speaker 1 Now, look, there's other parts of goalkeeping that matter, and I would be terrible because I'm a chicken and scared. But

Speaker 1 I just don't understand how you can't catch a ball that's kicked you from 10 yards. How is that possible?

Speaker 2 You bring up a good point. Let me ask you.

Speaker 2 Let me counter that by saying.

Speaker 1 Wait, can you just answer? How is that possible?

Speaker 2 I'm going to answer it in the form of a question.

Speaker 2 How is it then that...

Speaker 2 Your first touch sometimes got away from you and then you get yourself into a tackle. No, that's different.

Speaker 1 That's in a game with other things going on. I'm saying you and me standing 10 yards apart, you kick, and you're not, I'm not saying blast it.
I'm just saying the way you guys kick it in warm-up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. You know, like at my hands, I will never drop the ball.

Speaker 2 I, I, honestly, I can't, I can't speak to that. Especially the gloves.

Speaker 1 The gloves I think just sticks to the gloves.

Speaker 2 I didn't either. You had a bad goalkeeper.
That's it. I don't know what else to say.
I would be a better outfield player than my announcement.

Speaker 1 I saw it at Wave. I saw it at Loyal.
I'm just, I know you.

Speaker 2 Answer the question directly. You'd be a better goalkeeper than me than I would be an outfield player?

Speaker 1 I think physically, you're just better. So, like,

Speaker 1 if I was like four inches taller, I'd probably win.

Speaker 2 Fair enough. So, I win.
Keep going.

Speaker 3 Okay, one more for you.

Speaker 3 So, whether things are going great or everything has gone wrong, fans are always talking about four groups of people in soccer: the players, the managers, the owners, and the referees.

Speaker 3 What is a role in soccer that you think doesn't get enough credit or doesn't get held accountable enough?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I, you know, in my opinion, your director of sports science is one of the most important people at the club because

Speaker 2 we know that

Speaker 2 when you miss game time, you drop points, right? Like the more games missed by your best players,

Speaker 2 it correlates to a lack of points. So keeping players fit and healthy,

Speaker 2 sports science and being innovative in that field, that deserves more credit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I would say, actually, I think the recruitment department, so it's whether it's your director of football or whoever, whoever handles that, general manager, whatever, there is a huge problem.

Speaker 1 You saw it with Chelsea over the last few years. You see it with United.

Speaker 1 When a new manager comes in, it's like everything thrown out the window, eight players gone, eight new players brought in, and there's no consistency about what the club wants to do and what they want to be.

Speaker 1 And then oftentimes you have a GM. signing players without the coach agreeing to it.
And then it's a big disaster because if if there's no alignment there,

Speaker 1 if you're going to play a certain way, let's use Man City as an example.

Speaker 1 Man City would struggle mightily to play without Kyle Walker on the field, without a kanji, without guys who can run and defend half the field by themselves because they always in the opponent's end.

Speaker 1 They're always attacking. So on the counter, you can't have a slow center back who's really, really good on the ball.
You'll just get destroyed.

Speaker 1 So if you don't have alignment there, you're in big trouble.

Speaker 2 yeah and and to answer that even further um what what brighten are doing at the moment in terms of how how how they create their recruitment model they've got their next three head coaches lined up they know exactly where they're going to find their next players so it used to be just you have to find players and figure out the rest they know who they know who's going to come in from a scouting point if if hertzler leaves like the zerby left like potter left they know exactly who's coming in they're never going to left be left hamstrung so i think that's the new model yeah agreed all right jordan Awesome.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Thanks for watching.

Speaker 3 Thank you for answering my questions. But as your producer, can you tell the people where they can submit their questions so I don't have to

Speaker 1 come up with them on brand? Go ahead, Tim.

Speaker 2 Well, at Unfiltered Soccer, hit us on YouTube, any of your social channels. Like I said, hard-hitting questions are the best.

Speaker 1 All right, let's move into ABS. We've been looking forward to this.
Anything, anything but soccer.

Speaker 2 Love it.

Speaker 1 First one, Tim. Yep.
I want your thoughts.

Speaker 1 Bronnie James already heading to the g league yes it was that's completely scripted i'm here for it

Speaker 1 scripted you they had this planned 100 100 no what do you mean no oh he was on why would they even have him on the roster why didn't they start him there okay so

Speaker 2 lebron james deservedly so by the way whether i agree with this or not and i don't

Speaker 2 want it as part of his legacy to play with his son. That's amazing.
You think of like

Speaker 2 Ken Griffey, Ken Griffey Jr., like that's, it doesn't happen very often. And it speaks tremendously to his longevity and also to the talent that Bronny James has.

Speaker 2 The fact of the matter is when you go into NBA circles, Bronny James is not a NBA rotational player. He simply isn't.
That's not me making it up from New York City.

Speaker 2 So when you look at players of his caliber who have been drafted where he's been drafted, They're in a G-League. They're not in an NBA rotation.

Speaker 2 He was in the NBA rotation at the start of the season to get that golden moment which i believe lebron deserves to have scripted he was tim tim they had it like the first game so why didn't he just go after that

Speaker 2 like why they keep him around for another 10 games well because i because i don't i honestly don't think the number matters it just happened to be in the first part of the season he was going to go like i don't think it was going to be play the first game sub in at the 23 minute mark and then okay off you go like it wasn't good it was never going to be one and done but i think he's in the right place now

Speaker 2 and by the way lebron james makes all the decisions at the lakers don't kid yourself i was just going to say was he in on this yeah oh definitely so he was saying send my son down to the g league no i i don't think that i think the conversations happen at the board level and like hey we're gonna do this we're we're going to we're going to um appease your wishes but also understand that we're not going to use a roster spot on him for the full season and that he i think there was definitely those conversations Like, nobody's surprised by this.

Speaker 2 He will have had to sign off on that 100%.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, by the way, by all accounts, and I don't have any inside info, but everything I read and see is that he's a phenomenal kid, like a really good young man.
And so

Speaker 1 let's hope it goes well for him. Totally.
All right. One other.
So in the Niners-Bucks game, I was watching because I had Baker Mayfield as my fantasy QB.

Speaker 1 And it's not the best choice, but he's been phenomenal.

Speaker 1 Niners kicker Jake Moody missed his third field goal of of the game. He's been really good, by the way.
And then was greeted on the sidelines by Debo Samuel, who voiced his

Speaker 1 frustration with Moody and his long snapper. And the long snapper Tabor Pepper came to Moody's defense and kind of got into it with Debo Samuel.

Speaker 1 So just, I, I, Debo Samuel, when you watch him play, he's kind of old school. And I like this about him.
He's like, if I don't like what's going on, I'm going to tell you.

Speaker 1 And so you have to remember, man, this is these guys' livelihoods. yeah.
And old school, it was like everybody on the roster and the kicker, right?

Speaker 1 Right, like everyone hanging out, whatever, and then there's the kicker, right? And so, like, they all hated him.

Speaker 1 Now, it's all kind of changed a little bit, and there's more camaraderie around that, whatever.

Speaker 1 But it was uh, it was a pretty spicy moment, and honestly, I don't have a problem with any of it, I don't have a problem with Debo doing it, I don't have a problem with Moody saying, hey, man, I'm trying my best.

Speaker 1 I don't have a problem with the long snapper coming in and protecting Moody.

Speaker 1 And in the end, Moody kicked a game-winning field goal. So maybe it it worked.

Speaker 1 I mean, people have this idea, and we saw this a little bit with Berhalter and the national team, where everything has to be nice and friendly, and we love him. And we're happy.

Speaker 1 And it's like, no, no, no. You need to get elite performance out of people.
Yeah, yeah. And sometimes to do that, you got to ruffle feathers.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I got, I'm with you. I got no issue.
I mean, football in general, by the way, I'm a big NFL fan. It's a little bit over-aggressive.
And, you know, you get coaches fighting with players.

Speaker 2 So every time a coach speaks, he's yelling. Like, it's just, there's a, there's a lot going on there.
And kickers have always been outcasts.

Speaker 1 They're like goalkeepers.

Speaker 2 Totally.

Speaker 2 We touch the ball way more than kickers do. Like kickers get like one moment, you know, and you have to be amazing.
That's why the greatest kickers are so clutch and lights out.

Speaker 2 This happens all the time. Got no real issue with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I feel for kickers because like.

Speaker 1 Most of them used to be soccer players, right? So I want to be one. You know, the best story I heard about a kicker, actually.
Do you remember a guy named Morton Anderson? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think he kicked for the Titans.

Speaker 2 Titans Saints. He had the one bar helmet.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's right. So he,

Speaker 1 I remember someone telling me in his contract. I can't verify this, but I'm just going to pretend it's true for sure.

Speaker 1 He had in his contract, he was like 40 years old and the Titans wanted him to kick. And he said, all right, I'll kick on Sunday, Monday through Friday.
I'm flying back home.

Speaker 1 I think he was in New York or somewhere. I'm flying home all week.
I'll come Saturday. do some practice and I'll play on Sunday.
And they were like, no problem. He made like a million plus bucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's like

Speaker 1 a big deal.

Speaker 2 Him him, and what was the other guy? Sebastian Jenikowski, the guy from Faris State.

Speaker 1 He was a unit as well. I imagine he was.
Oh, happy days.

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