Transformation and A Winning Mindset with Derrick Harper, Sr.

Speaker 1 This is Wake Up to Wealth, a podcast dedicated to helping you change the way you think about wealth.

Speaker 2 And now, here's your host, Brandon Brittingham.

Speaker 2 Eric Harper Jr. in the studio with us today.
Senior, hold on. Senior.
My kid.

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? I was supposed to be a junior, but I had to go and create one. Got it.
Well,

Speaker 2 I'm blessed to have you in here, man. And, and, man, your social media is on fire.

Speaker 2 And I didn't, unfortunately, I didn't get to hear you speak last time at MDM because of the fucking shit I was dealing with with kidney stones and shit. But I heard you speak today, man.

Speaker 2 You, you blew it. You blew it off the fucking roof, man.
Thank you for being here today. I appreciate it, man.

Speaker 2 You know, just being able to give back pour into people who want to grow, man, you want to show up for people who are trying to show up for their families.

Speaker 2 So, you know, whatever I can give, you know, I try to give it. And so someone doesn't know who you are.
Who are you? You know, I've always had a struggle with that. I'm just me.

Speaker 2 You know, and I know it sucks. I'm father.
I got married at 19. I've been married 20 years.

Speaker 2 Two amazing kids.

Speaker 2 You know, everything is about faith. I served in the Air Force,

Speaker 2 overseas, and I realized that

Speaker 2 although that did help me fight. for people, I wasn't fighting hard enough.

Speaker 2 And I realized that people needed a lot more help than just security and defense. They needed a way and a means to actually improve their life.
And so I started taking that route.

Speaker 2 So, you know, part owner and, oh, Lord, over 60-something businesses. But

Speaker 2 before I'm a businessman, I'm just here for the people.

Speaker 2 And very humble. I know that word kind of sucks, but

Speaker 2 while everybody wants the attention, I try to shy away from it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 you know because i i'd rather build people and sit back a little bit than to be the one in the forefront Well, and I get it, but after you speaking today, the more people need to hear your message.

Speaker 2 I'm just coming into that. You know, Ryan was like, bro, like, no, I mean,

Speaker 2 literally, I had an entire presentation in my head that I was going to do today. I changed it on the fly after you spoke.
Oh, wow. What were you going to talk about? Cause you killed it.

Speaker 2 Well, I was, it was the same premise, but the, you know, be the person that makes someone believe in God more or less, bro, that was a pattern interrupt for me.

Speaker 2 Like, I was like, I'm going to go, I was going to do some more tactical business thing.

Speaker 2 And I said, no, I'm just going to go, I'm going to go super deep on leadership because I was like, fuck, when you said that, that like clicked immediately.

Speaker 2 I was like, holy shit, man, that, that's powerful shit. Like, I'll, I'll use that on stage and I'll always, I'll pay homage to who I got it from, but I will repeat that one.
No, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 And, and, you know, it's just a bunch of life lessons too, you know, because I I realized every time I was building for me, God just gave me enough to build for me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, and start learning about nonprofits.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, man, the way that that works, if I implement this and I know, because if you got people still in your inbox that they're struggling and you don't have a resource for them, it just means you're not building fast enough.

Speaker 2 So I just looked at it as, okay, God didn't make me this smart. He didn't give me this grind.
He didn't do all of this just for me. It couldn't be just for me because it's way too much.

Speaker 2 I got to IQ 143. Wasn't for me.
It's to build for a bunch of people. And so, you know, the whole thing is like, how can I get people what they need at a faster rate?

Speaker 2 And that's why more people need to hear message. And that, I mean, because it's broad,

Speaker 2 you know, you got my film guys in here. We travel all over.
And I mean, that shit was powerful today. More people need to hear it.
Let me ask you another question.

Speaker 2 Like, where the hell do you pull this shit out on that you put on Facebook?

Speaker 2 Cause literally like every day one of the first things i do when i look on facebook is i go read your oh wow that's i like go

Speaker 2 coming from you well i mean because it's i bro it's always so impactful it's like and it's tactical and it's real life and like i bro and but it's like you know some people on facebook he's like oh man that was a witty quote or it's this or it's that it's like once or twice Your shit is every, like day in, day out, like your copywriting and your content is like, it's fucking stupid.

Speaker 2 Like, where, where do you pull that shit from i mean you're pulling it from internal but like how do you fucking externalize that all the time because most people are just posted on facebook yeah right i made a commitment to really transform the people so that's like in anything you can't go and be an nba player if you just half assing right you got to really practice and put a lot into it so i just put a lot of thought through how would my post transform somebody whole mindset right and you know it can't just be half ass in it if that's my goal so you know i think through the process and then i I bring a life experience in.

Speaker 2 And then how would I transform? And then it takes me back to who am I trying to transform.

Speaker 2 Okay, the person that I'm trying to transform, what mindset was I in when I needed to hear this message and how did I need to hear it? And then I write it that way.

Speaker 2 If you like repeat that.

Speaker 2 If you're listening to this shit, like play that back, because if you apply that to any type of sales process or sales funnel, that's like a fucking million dollars worth of game right there.

Speaker 2 Like no doubt. Cause we talking people high level who, if we're trying to get them a transformation, they're not what we are.
Right.

Speaker 2 You know, and people forget, you know, they, they think that it's just a cliche saying, don't forget where you come from. It's millions of dollars in that.
Yeah. You get what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Cause if you don't, if you forget where you come from, you're not going to forget the mindset you were in when you were there. And that's the whole thing.

Speaker 2 It's like, I really, you know, to be honest, I don't even be talking to the people on Facebook. I talk to my old self.
Damn, bro.

Speaker 2 And those are all posts that if I can talk to my old self, I would say. That's powerful.
And it's a second chance to be able to do that. You need to say that shit on stage.
Will you remember?

Speaker 2 You remember that? I'll try to remember that for 10 times. Bro, you need to say that shit on stage.
Yeah, but that's all it is. It's like, man, what would I tell myself if, you know,

Speaker 2 it's easy after I done made millions and millions, right? To say, oh, blah, blah, blah. But it's like, dang, I needed to hear that then.
It would have sped up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so whoever grabs it, grabs it, right? That's how I know, because I can transform anybody who's following my path. I I can't transform them if they're not on my path, though.

Speaker 2 So I can just keep talking to my old self. And whoever picks that up, that's who I know God's sending to listen to me.
Yeah. Another thing you did today that, oh shit, you unpacked so many things.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 the whole, the whole e-book and turning that into a funnel, we're going to have a whole separate conversation one day about that. Cause, bro, my mind was blown on that.

Speaker 2 But another thing that you talked about today,

Speaker 2 which I've never seen anyone articulate it as a complex idea as simple as you did, but essentially how you've gotten equity in companies.

Speaker 2 If you don't mind, I'd love for you to talk about that for a few minutes. Yeah, it's just two things, man.
And I can give you a sauce. I have a funding company that I can care less about funding.

Speaker 2 And I really have a coaching program that I really care less about coaching. So

Speaker 2 coming from where I came from, you had to be fluid. So I have to be who I have to be for the person I'm transforming, right?

Speaker 2 So if I know know that this company is about to struggle, I post myself as a coach.

Speaker 2 And that's why a lot of people coach coach, because now if you can respect me as a coach, you're going to come to me with your problem. No doubt.
So I got into the M ⁇ A space, right?

Speaker 2 Mergers and acquisition space, where I wanted to start buying businesses back in the day. Right.

Speaker 2 But I realized everybody I went to send an LOI to talk about their business, they inflated their numbers. They made it seem like it was way bigger than what it was.

Speaker 2 And then by the time you bring a forensic accountant in,

Speaker 2 you realize you spent so much time and money yeah right so now i'm like how can i do this better so if i do if i do the coaching route when they come to me and they need a coach that means that they feel like they're failing somewhere then that's where i need to hit and they're going to be vulnerable if you can tell you the real tell you everything yeah and if you pose as a funding company and they're trying to get funding now you also they also tell you where they need the money at they need it for personnel that means they got personnel issues and they probably got high overhead right if they need it for marketing that that means that they're either spending too much money on marketing or don't know anything about marketing right so what i did is we went to the philippines and built a huge we call it a call center but a development center where we got a bunch of people so i'm like well if we're getting them four or five bucks an hour and they're trained and they can do all of this Now, when a company comes in and they need me to coach them, I can evaluate two things.

Speaker 2 If they're a good leader and just don't have a system, I would get equity, right? Because now I can trust that they'll lead and make them.

Speaker 2 But if they suck at leadership and their system sucks, it's because of their leadership, I'm going to buy them out.

Speaker 2 And so now what I realized, it was easier to do that having more information from either the lending side or the coaching side.

Speaker 2 And now when it comes to, I got a solution for you as a coach, but I'm going to charge an astronomical price because I know that you're not going to pay that, but you'll give me equity.

Speaker 2 Because most people, they'll hire a coach. but then still want the coach to do the work for them.
So if I got to use my resources, I need equity.

Speaker 2 I'm sure you figured this out, but like, do you know how genius that is? Like, that's like, that's extraordinary that you've figured that out and done it and done it successfully multiple times.

Speaker 2 And the money looks different too. Of course.
You know, because like I remember where I used to have to be the most popular person in the world to make a million, have a million dollar month. Right.

Speaker 2 You get what I'm saying? Of course. And now I'm looking at like a million dollar weeks.
Right.

Speaker 2 But I don't have to be the most popular person on social media. I can look at the deposits deposits coming in every month from other companies.
Right.

Speaker 2 And you're not necessarily doing all the work, managing all the employees, dealing with all the problems, dealing with all the headaches. Right.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Cause you got to have a good leader who's going to be able to do that. And it even helped me create a whole nother business called a CEO incubator.

Speaker 2 Right now, the people who I'm developing and the CEOs.

Speaker 2 While we're in the transition of buying you out and getting you out of there, I can put an interim CEO in place to make sure we infuse the coaching.

Speaker 2 You know, so it's so many things, so many like arms that you can build just from the M ⁇ A space from the coaching side. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because when I realized that when I, every business that I either tapped into the equity side or bought from the coaching perspective, all of them did all right.

Speaker 2 But the ones that I just went and purchased from like a beds by sale or all of the rookie sites that, you know, with the broker people out there, they fail. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because, you know, they'll tell you the numbers. You see the P ⁇ L statements.
It tells you everything but the culture of the company. Right.

Speaker 2 And culture is something that you don't tap into after you buy it. Correct.
So coaching, right, is the only way to find the culture of the business before I buy it. Right.

Speaker 2 And, you know, that's going to be the biggest thing because you don't even know what contingencies to put in place until you know the coach. Yeah.
So, you know, it's just crazy.

Speaker 2 That's what I had to figure out because I got tired of either coaching people who went out and made a couple million dollars and they'll go hire Grant Cardone. Right.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 And it's like, bro, I got you there. But then now you're paying so much for a coach for the name.

Speaker 2 And nothing against Grant or any big names, but shit, the amount of shit that you've given on this podcast and you've given on this stage is more than most of those motherfuckers that I know that got the names, that charge stupid money to do it.

Speaker 2 You know, don't give them the same tactical things that you just gave today. Marketers.
Right. You get what I'm saying? Yeah.
How do you know? Dance embarrassed. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 So a dance embarrassed like when it's tax season and you go and the bears out there dancing with the sign, you know what I'm saying? Come here, come here.

Speaker 2 But when the bears stop dancing, you don't even see it exists. And a lot of those are marketers.
It's like, you know, the shiny objects in drawing, but nobody really transforms.

Speaker 2 You just get in the room. Yeah.
You know,

Speaker 2 that is powerful. So, so evaluating, because I know you're going to have this answer just talking to you.
So you evaluate a bunch of businesses, right? And you're going to say.

Speaker 2 Obviously, you have whatever metric in your head is. I'm going to say yes or say no.
I say no to 99 of 100. Right.
So what I want to know is the ones you say yes to, why? Well, the feeling is one.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Trust in my intuition and gut.
Right. So that's the first.
If the person feels like a slime ball, I'm not dealing with it. So

Speaker 2 you're betting on the leader. Oh, exactly.
The current leader. The leader is everything.
Without the right leader in place, everything is dead. Right.

Speaker 2 And so I don't, you can have the best marketing plan, the biggest budget. right in the world look at the sbx what's his name sam something the you know he generated billions but it was a scam.

Speaker 2 It was poor leadership. Oh, the FTX guy.
Yeah, they just found him guilty on everything. And so it don't matter how much money you're making in this grandiose idea can be a male.

Speaker 2 But if you got a scammer as a leader or a poor leader, everything is going to fall. Yeah.
And, you know, and people just think leadership is being in charge. Right.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 And so a leader. Talks for an hour about that today.
That's it. Yeah.
And, you know, it's way more than that. Like, a person got to look at you and want to follow you.
Right.

Speaker 2 not nothing it's nothing you're going to be able to say and you said that there's nothing that i can say that would make somebody say hmm what he said makes me want to lead him you know you're going to watch me for a while right and the thing is is we don't do enough of that though the ones who fail Think about everybody's talking about what they got scammed out of and all of that now, right?

Speaker 2 This cost of money to slow down. Damn, right.
But everybody who they claim scammed them, they didn't spend enough time vetting. Right.

Speaker 2 That means that that person that you invested in all your money into getting you from somewhere, you didn't even see if they was a real leader or not based on what they did.

Speaker 2 You followed what they said, looked at their following, the rooms they was in, what they bought, and you was like, that's a leader. No, that's a marketer.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I will tell you, and I hate to say this, is that there's a lot of influencers and people who sell shit on the internet. And they were my heroes before I got in the room with them.

Speaker 2 And I got behind them. And a lot of it was bullshit.
Fluff. Yeah.
It sounded great. Sounded great.
Man, that lip service was amazing. And,

Speaker 2 you know, and also you got to be ready for a real leader. See, the real leader don't sound sexy.
Yeah. You get what I'm saying? So, like, the real leader

Speaker 2 at all. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And, well, the real leader will, I mean, the fake leader going to talk about how they made a million dollars in the pandemic and they created a program to show you not like, bro, how does that sound?

Speaker 2 Yeah. So, okay, you made a million dollars in the pandemic.
You can just automatically, I'm not even you.

Speaker 2 First of all, I, you know, I haven't even did a disc assessment yet we got totally different personalities right we don't even know our habits your habits might be way different than mine and then you're telling me oh set this up set that up it's like no it don't work like that so

Speaker 2 when if you're listening to this one of the things that man you just got to understand the lid of your organization is your leadership here's a guy who buys businesses you know

Speaker 2 had made businesses make shit tons of money he's made shit tons of money and what and what did he say You know, what's his number two step after his own intuition is, you know, who's the leader and what's the leader like?

Speaker 2 Yeah. It has to be.
Think about this, though. If it doesn't have a leader, you're going to eventually have to lead it.
No doubt. I'm not trying to buy another job, dude.
I don't want another job.

Speaker 2 I'm not trying a job. I'm not going to do that.
So if I'm going to buy something,

Speaker 2 I need that commitment from that leader. Yeah.
You get what I'm saying? Yeah. And like.
One of the things that Jay-Z said, I would rather have 10% of a watermelon than 100% of a grape. No doubt.

Speaker 2 And so what a lot of people don't realize is it's the equity that they don't want to give up was causing the wrong people or the right people not to be able to come in. I think which album was it?

Speaker 2 He said, it was one of the recent ones, ones, 1% of a billion is more than we've ever seen. Right.
Yeah. And that's, and that's real, though.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And most people, they, they out there in la-la land, but if you really just break it down, it's all about what can I bring to the table. Sure.
I've never met anybody and asked them for something.

Speaker 2 I've always asked, no matter who, you can ask a thousand people. The first thing,

Speaker 2 by the way, downstairs,

Speaker 2 after I spoke today, he literally asked me, what can I do for you? So that's real shit. No, for real.
What do you need?

Speaker 2 Because the thing is, is, and

Speaker 2 I came from a culture, or I came and was raised in an environment where popping off,

Speaker 2 you had to stay humble. We get that mix.

Speaker 2 But so you got to be careful on what you say. But I'm going to say it, I'm rich.
I mean, and you, I shouldn't feel embarrassed by saying that. Fuck no, you should be proud of it.

Speaker 2 And you know, it's like

Speaker 2 it's a line between being humble and not pushing people away based on where I came out of. Right.
But it's like, I'm already rich. Why can't I go help everybody? Right.

Speaker 2 Because I don't need money from anybody. But my thing is, is I will never have a money problem if I can help you get richer.
Sure.

Speaker 2 And even if I never asked you for a dime, if I help you make an extra $5 million doing something,

Speaker 2 there wouldn't be anything. Anytime I call you and be like, hey, Brian, let's grab a drink.
Let me get some time because I need to ask you something. Sure.
You wouldn't be reluctant to give me that.

Speaker 2 Absolutely not. I mean, one of the things you said on stage today, I was, bro, I was paying attention.

Speaker 2 You said, if I want to be a billionaire, I got to create a bunch of multi-millionaires. Got to.

Speaker 2 And another thing that I learned too is most millionaires teach the game. Yeah.
Most billionaires create the platform so people can perform the game. Bro.
And I was like, oh, I got that from my coach.

Speaker 2 And so now,

Speaker 2 and when you look at Zuckerberg, he created a platform. How many multi-millionaires have been created off the platform, Facebook, Amazon?

Speaker 2 How many multi-millionaires have been created off the platform, Amazon? Bezos don't have to get up here and be a logistics guy. You get what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 2 And that changed the way I looked at everything. And that's why I always say, never try to eat from an environment that you didn't plant a seed in, which was phenomenal when you said that today, too.

Speaker 2 It's when you plant it, and especially if you look at the people as seeds, take the people, plant them somewhere, right? And then water them. That's that every day I'm pouring into you.

Speaker 2 Every day I'm pouring in. Which I believe in that

Speaker 2 wholeheartedly. And then they grow.
Yeah. So instead of fruit, they got more money.
They got more influence. They got this that they can lend to you to leverage.
Yeah. But you created it.
You grew it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And so a lot of people don't want to grow people if the money, if you know, if the money isn't there first.
So I tell people two things.

Speaker 2 When I launch something, I can do it two ways. I have a seed price and a fruit price.
The seed price is because people don't see where it's going to take them yet.

Speaker 2 They only believe in the vision of what it's going to do. So the seed price, I do it for a little lower to get people where they need to be.

Speaker 2 But then after they produce the fruit, after you see the testimony and you know it worked, you can no longer get the seed price. Now it's the fruit price because you've seen that it works.

Speaker 2 It's proven. Right.
And I do the same thing with relationships. I got seed relationships and I got fruit relationships.

Speaker 2 If I build with you at the seed level because you believe in me, I'm going to build with you forever. But if you coming just because you see the fruit, I'm going to actually, you might have to pay.

Speaker 2 You get what I'm saying? So that's a different way that I'm going to deal with you at that point. Man, that's fucking powerful.
I mean, that is some powerful shit.

Speaker 2 Like, this is this is why you've got to get on more stages because more people need to hear this shit. Do you know what I mean? And it's not about, it's, it's, you're obviously a spiritual man.

Speaker 2 The, the, the gifts that you have, fucking more people need to hear this shit. But you know why? It's not that I don't want to do it, right?

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 let's have a, uh, a real conversation. Have you ever had a white guy come to you and say, this is why I don't spend money with you, white people? Have I? Yeah.
Every race.

Speaker 2 No, no, I'm just saying, like, have you had a white guy who get pissed at you and say, see, that's why I don't buy from white people.

Speaker 2 Have you had a white guy say that? Probably not. No, it's more been like

Speaker 2 you know you're flashy you're this well see that's because personality yeah that's something you can control right see i can't control my color right right but

Speaker 2 what i'm what i have to really be conscious of right

Speaker 2 is

Speaker 2 when it comes to the people that i'm really trying to help It's a certain way I have to do it. I can't do it the way you do it.
Right. I have to do it in a way to where I'm still sparing Philly.

Speaker 2 Understood?

Speaker 2 what i'm saying i do yeah and so you gotta remember the story i told when i was about to blow my brains out yeah see i was franchising a credit repair company yeah same credit repair company at that point i was doing like four million a year right and i had the university the credit i was the founder of the credit repair university yeah

Speaker 2 literally certified to have these people out here now right and this is 2014 2015.

Speaker 2 so now When you fast forward to what happened, though, I franchised this credit repair company because what I realized, and I didn't know about the franchising laws, that's right.

Speaker 2 I had to learn, right? Right. So, I was just trying to help people.
So, with the university, people they got it, they learned it, but they kept having to start over.

Speaker 2 They didn't have a brand, and so they wasn't going to get the success that I had because I took time to build my brand. So, I said, Well, let me just make my brand available to y'all.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I franchised. But what I failed to realize is the competitors don't like my brand popping up all over the world, all over the country in their backyards.
No, hell no.

Speaker 2 So, now it's kind of like, you got to get off my block or we're going to call the feds and we gonna have false complaints and and they don't just file false complaints they get other haters other business owners most people aren't really haters if you look at most people who hate their competitors who can't leverage what you have right well not only that or they see something in you that they will never be right and so now if i can't join that i can't be that i gotta stop that right or i gotta bring you back down and i'm gonna tell you something on that but anyway they went to the cfpb the attorney generals in all of these states, and then they filed spam complaints.

Speaker 2 But it was real people filing and some anonymous. And now all of a sudden, my life goes.
And so, like I said, I put a big seed in the ground.

Speaker 2 I go to church and I just, you know, because I got the franchise going. And I said, God, five-figure seed, I threw in the ground on offering.
And I said, hey, God,

Speaker 2 please make me a better leader. I left church, got a call from my brother.
Mom passed.

Speaker 2 The same day. So I'm like, hold on, God, get my money back.
You know, I don't, you know, I was like, I want to reneg. Like, let me, you know, so fucking uppercut it twice.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was like, hold on, I just blew a bag. But anyway, so, and then

Speaker 2 I go online and I see a 35-minute slander video. I'm like, what?

Speaker 2 And they did so well. I was like, it was like, yeah, it was like 10 of us got together and we're going to put a stop to this guy.

Speaker 2 And so I was like, dang, 10 people wasted about eight to 10 hours of their life apiece to destroy me. And they couldn't even get together and build something.
It's weird, right? It's crazy.

Speaker 2 Which is why they are where they are, right? Yeah. But so what happened is all hell was breaking loose in my life, at least I thought.

Speaker 2 And then they filed a bar complaint against my attorney when she was never the attorney, right? Yeah. And we talking when she 20 something years practice, she represents the who's of the who, right?

Speaker 2 Right. And so anyway, now it's a hit to her because she's like, I got to answer this BS bar complaint.
What they were trying to do is create the conflict of interest because if she was the

Speaker 2 representation, she couldn't represent me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And she knew everything right so now you know pray pray pray but what i realized is when all of the things was coming out the haters knew where to find me to try to destroy me yeah and so it gave me this ptsd of not being the one out and i'm still trying to show my i get it you know when people say hey well you need to show the world and it's like well

Speaker 2 That was cool when I was trying to make money. Now that I'm rich,

Speaker 2 I'm not trying to be the most popular person to get to work because even though I might inspire some people it still

Speaker 2 will be pretty much it'll put me in a bad place of where I was before understood and so you know it got me to the point where I was literally in that closet about

Speaker 2 if I wouldn't have got too drunk to kill myself I would have been dead right now well which is I hate to hear that but you know the thing is you're a chosen one and you were put through that yeah for a reason, right?

Speaker 2 But see, now you, now you know now that I was literally a better leader because God literally had to put me through that humility to put me back so that I really understand a person face to face.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Instead of just being the rich guy telling somebody I can bring them along.
Yeah, I understood. I understood.
Well, this time we just built an army around you. So that's it.
Yeah. I did.

Speaker 2 And so now that's why I tell people, build community. Yeah.
Because when you build community, I don't. And you have.
I mean, because I pay attention to your stuff. They can't.

Speaker 2 If they come now, the last person who tried to put a slander video out on me, somebody posted it in their group and and their YouTube page that had, I think they had like 180,000 subscribers.

Speaker 2 They put a slander video out and they lost their page in four hours.

Speaker 2 The page that they worked so hard to build, God let them build it because they was gifting people and then they went off assignment to try to damage another person who has God on assignment.

Speaker 2 And the freehive

Speaker 2 came in and literally just reported the page back to back. So they're getting 10,000, 20,000 complaints on their page within an hour on different IPs.

Speaker 2 Page can't stay up. And then now they're mad that they paid, but they don't have a voice to be able to try to slander me now.
So we had to build an army, but it wasn't just an army, a messy army.

Speaker 2 It was an army on the same assignment. If anyone spends any time and listens to you and has anything negative to say, there's something fucking wrong with them.
Well, I mean,

Speaker 2 negativity is, uh, it's perception too. Of course.
100%. So what I learned, this is what I learned, because I came, you know, both my parents is on drugs.

Speaker 2 I remember like having to jump over the hole in the floor in the trailer to get on the toilet and hope that the toilet don't fall to the left when I fall through the floor.

Speaker 2 We had a cat to go on there to get the mice. Like we had a pet cat for the purpose of like chasing the mice that come in the house.
Like that was my life, right?

Speaker 2 And so knowing that.

Speaker 2 Like when I keep saying I'm speaking to that person, but knowing that one of the biggest things that I like to focus on, my ADHD just called me. So where were we going with that?

Speaker 2 Because I done went down. Hold on, I went down my ADHD.

Speaker 2 You were talking about,

Speaker 2 you said negativity was perception. That's okay.
Yeah. Thank you for the spot.
So what I realized, though, right, is when I came up out of that, I used to think rich people was evil.

Speaker 2 I used to, because of where I came from. Of course.

Speaker 2 So what I realized, when you grow apart from somebody, Let's say we knew each other all the way from third grade to 10th grade, right? We know everything about each other. We do things together.

Speaker 2 And then now I disappear off the grid. And then I go get rich.
Yeah. And you're doing what you do.
I'm getting rich. I'm changing lives, inspiring people around the world.
You see me on this, on that.

Speaker 2 You don't remember me of that, though. So you're going to start saying, man, I remember such and such.
It's not really negative.

Speaker 2 It's just that when people no longer have access to you, they automatically going to put you back in the position where they're familiar with you at. So now it's not that they hating.

Speaker 2 They just can't accept where you came from because they had no parts in it. So they want to put you back down where they're familiar with you at.
So you got two options.

Speaker 2 Stay where you at and don't address it or stoop back down to the level to make them comfortable. So they got two things.

Speaker 2 They can either grind hard to get where you at to get back familiar or they can try to pull you down to get back familiar with you.

Speaker 2 And a lot of people choose the pull down option because it takes those accountability off of them and they don't have to do anything but throw something out there and let you do all the work to come back down.

Speaker 2 Y'all hearing this shit?

Speaker 2 No, it's just no, I mean, that's fucking

Speaker 2 shit on stage too. Because when they come, like, you got to realize, think about what hate is.
Hate is just a reflection of getting back familiar with the person. Like, my family don't support.

Speaker 2 They this, they that. They don't know the new you.
Yeah. The old you, like,

Speaker 2 man, it's crazy. It's deeper.
The new you is not even related to them anymore. No.
The old you died out. You just ain't buried them yet.
And that's so powerful. Man, I could talk to you for hours.

Speaker 2 Like, seriously, but you gotta get to the airport. And I

Speaker 2 and I know, and I appreciate because I we went longer than we usually do because I was just letting you go because you were you were spitting, but uh, I like, and and I thank you so much, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 And one thing I will say we can have an offline conversation is whatever I can do for you, I will do it because you're doing it already because just being jingle, the amount of game I got from you today

Speaker 2 in this room and downstairs downstairs was shit, bro. It'll make me eight figures.
Like, no, no, no question. Like, seriously.
But what I want to end with is I ask everybody this every time

Speaker 2 is we call the show Wake Up to Wealth. And the reason why we do it is I grew up poor.

Speaker 2 And,

Speaker 2 you know, I was taught about money wrong. And thankfully, I was the one in my family, the generational one that broke the financial curse and got us out of that shit.

Speaker 2 And what I learned was,

Speaker 2 you know, the matrix, whatever you call it. And I think part of the reason why they were trying to take you down is because you're educating people on how to get out of the matrix.
Yep.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 what I believe is when you learn about money and wealth obviously starts in the mind and everything else, but when you learn to control wealth and you learn to wake up to wealth, your life changes.

Speaker 2 And what I always ask everybody, and it can be whatever, it's your version of it. What is waking up to wealth to you?

Speaker 2 Knowing that I have genuine people now

Speaker 2 in my corner that I can actually talk to, right?

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 one of the things you said,

Speaker 2 and I used it, I'm definitely going to use it and credit it to you. Everybody goes back to their childhood space.
Yeah. When I bought my Rose Russian My Lambo, it was because I wanted that as a kid.

Speaker 2 Damn right. That was it.
And it was it. And I wanted it as a kid.
And the feeling you got when you got it. Man, it felt like that kid.
No doubt.

Speaker 2 And so we want to go back and redo the access we didn't have. So now I done got the money, I got the veil because I own homes.
Like, I didn't do all of that, what I've been locked out of.

Speaker 2 And it all comes down to like,

Speaker 2 I only want to be around genuine people with good hearts. Yeah.
They're harder to find. I can go out and create something and make freaking $200,000 from a post in an email.
Right.

Speaker 2 That don't excite me. Yeah.
Build finding a genuine person, though, that's without a gender, that's that's really on a pad to change the world. That's gold.
That's wealth. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And building with them and playing my part of that, because I don't need the credit. Right.
I just need to know that I played a part in the changing the world. That's all that matters.

Speaker 2 And if I can find people to do that with, that's wealth to me. That's powerful.
We'll end on that. That's it.
Man, I appreciate you being here today. Hey, because

Speaker 2 people need to follow you and they need to buy into the shit that you're doing. Where can they find you? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So at Derek Harper Sr., D-E-R-R-I-C-K, a r p e r s r um on instagram and derek a harper senior um on facebook those are the the two i'm on facebook way more than instagram yeah um but and they can tap in they can they can shoot me a text they can text uh apex um to 404-999 uh

Speaker 2 3828 404-999-38228. Just 3828.
So text Apex there and I'm going to send them a grid of of what we talked about downstairs. Which was fucking insane.

Speaker 2 And if you're listening to this, get that shit because it's, you need it. Man, I just want to say thank you.
Thank you for spending your time with me today. No, I appreciate you for having me, man.

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