Barcelona w/ Danny Brown | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir

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Do you pull the balls like tight? Because that skin is like all wrinkly. That's when it cuts.

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It's like if it's like this. I don't pull it tight to the neck.

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I'm a couple days, though. What does that mean?

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Where you been and where you going?

Speaker 2 This is Aries Travel Show. Yeah, we're going to talk about travel today.
It's you be trippin'.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Welcome to UB Tripping, everybody. It's a travel podcast.
Every week, some guest takes me to some place they've been, and we talk about what we do. It's wildly inaccurate almost everywhere.

Speaker 2 If you guys are looking for facts, this ain't the podcast for that. It's just experiential.

Speaker 2 Today,

Speaker 2 the man, Danny Brown, you, you, do you second time on? Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 First time we were on your set, I I think. I know, right? I just

Speaker 2 repurposed your set. Yeah, we back.
And then I got my own. Where do you want to go? What do you want to talk about today? I have no idea.
Okay.

Speaker 2 My whole brain is, I told you, deal with this movie and shit. My whole brain is all over the place, man.
You told me last time about some festival where they were just hooking it up.

Speaker 2 It might have been Primavera. Yeah, Primavera, definitely.
That's my favorite festival ever. Why? Because, I mean, it's just a great time and it's huge.

Speaker 2 You can tell, like, I don't know the budgets of festivals and how it's ran the catering

Speaker 2 you know everything you got to add everything and it's just like the highest it's like the baller shit i will say far as catering like i think hop scotch festival where's that that's canada

Speaker 2 i went to oceiaga once oh that's what it is oceaga i had it wrong it's ocea in montreal bro i was there and i was somehow i got backstage stuff we weren't performing at it I think somebody was running another festival, so they got us.

Speaker 2 And I could hear them. And they be having like five-star chefs and shit.
All the musicians are like, this is the best cater I've ever had.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they'd be having like five-star chefs and and what's the negative version of that like what's the version of that a what of catering yeah like the opposite of oceiaga like when you get to a festival are they acl I ain't gonna lie acl they just had grilled chicken and white rice for a

Speaker 2 lot of white people they had a little more than that it's just my my dj who i'm with he real weird about food so he won't eat certain he only eat like chicken and like bird he eat like a 12 year old and they didn't have nothing that he could eat there and he just made a rice sandwich that i was like damn, you know, the catering fucked up when a motherfucker eating a rice sandwich, like rice and white bread.

Speaker 2 And he just made a sandwich and just ate that. I was like, damn.

Speaker 2 If you're doing a festival on a major DJ. DJ is white, too.
So, of course, he ate a white rice sandwich. Star? I always say his name wrong.
It's not Starboard. That's a boat.
It's not Star Lord. What?

Speaker 2 You're DJ. Skywalker.
Sky Walker. Damn it.
Skylar. His name is Skylar.
Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I like when people rename themselves rap names and it's like Lil B. I'm like, like, what's your name, Brandon? It's like Lil B.
Like,

Speaker 2 what's like, where's it coming? I could never think of a rap name. It took me forever.
My rap name is Daniel Brown. Yeah.
And I mean, I got that from a pimp. What? Yeah, it's a pimp named Danny Brown.

Speaker 2 And you killed him and took the name? No, it was a documentary. I think maybe it was American Pimp or Pimp Up Hosanna.
One of those pimping documentaries. Your name's not Danny Brown?

Speaker 2 No, my name is Daniel Sewell.

Speaker 2 Like Thomas? Thomas Sewell? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Do you know what that is? Ain't it Sewell, though? His name's Swell. I don't know.
I think it's Swell. I don't think it's Sewell.
Only other Sewells I know is like, I think it's a football player.

Speaker 2 Last name, Sewell. Sewell, anyway.
But yeah, I don't know shit about that last name. My grandma married a nigga and then they get divorced.
So we got a last name that don't mean shit to me.

Speaker 2 I'm supposed to be Smith.

Speaker 2 Dude, one time they were talking, it was

Speaker 2 two basketball players, Larry Johnson and Kevin Johnson. Grandma Mom.
Yeah. And KJ.
Yeah. And somebody asked him, like, hey, what do you think about Kevin Johnson?

Speaker 2 And Larry Johnson's like, like, yeah, I mean, we're both from the same plantation, probably.

Speaker 2 So it's like, he's my home. Exactly.
It's like, what?

Speaker 2 But, yeah. So, um.
All right, so Primavera, let's talk about Spain and all that stuff, or at least there's Lair. So, what was that? What's what's that type of thing? Is it a camping festival?

Speaker 2 Or is it like till?

Speaker 2 I mean, it's huge. Yeah.
So, I would believe they got to have some type of camping ground. Bigger than Bonnaro, same size? Yeah.
It's bigger.

Speaker 2 Because, I mean, far as like from stage to stage, like it was, it's like, it's hell. to get there.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, you might not see what you want to see, y'all, because it's not, you know what I'm saying? Wow, I like those because then you're just stuck where you are. Yeah, damn, that's it.

Speaker 2 Primavera sound.

Speaker 2 Is it out by the water? It is. I mean, they do a few of them, but the Barcelona one's the best one because they do one in Porto.

Speaker 2 They do a Primavera sound in Porto. Yeah, I've been to that one too.
That one wasn't that good. But the one in Barcelona is the best one.
Do you go out into

Speaker 2 gen pop? Nah, I used to. Yeah.
Earlier, but

Speaker 2 now I wouldn't do it. I mean, now, I mean, I'm sober as fuck.
Why would I do that? Oh. You know, I did.
I mean, I did during Coachella this year, but I had no choice. I mean, I was.

Speaker 2 What do you mean?

Speaker 2 I mean, because I was there on other people's sets. Oh, right.
So I had to guess. I mean, I still had the artist pass.
Yeah. But,

Speaker 2 yeah, I mean, I don't know why.

Speaker 2 Oh, to get to stage to stage sometime, too. It's easier to just cut through than trying to go around the backs and shit.
So I think that's why we was doing it.

Speaker 2 but i did i watched charlie set from the crowd xtx yeah

Speaker 2 right before i left because i was hungry but this goddamn when you're doing pimavera sound you were using that yeah hell yeah soon as i got there that's that's what i mean maybe that's why i'm a little um what i mean i'm just being giving them too much props because as soon as you get there, I remember checking into the hotel, and I don't know if that's a thing I should be saying, but they, I remember the people at the hotel was like, do you want to see the dealer?

Speaker 2 I was like, the dealer? What do you mean? What's the dealer?

Speaker 2 And they was like and i was like yeah i'll check the dealer out like i don't know what this is but yeah and soon as i soon as we went upstairs i set my bags down on the bed somebody knocked at the door and i'm like what the i opened the door it's the dealer the dealer at the door he's like what you need i'm like what you got he done i'm like i need some i'm like i got i want some molly He just started pulling shit out of his balls, like bags and shit, like Molly, weed, Coke.

Speaker 2 I'm like, all right, boom, boom. So everything right there.
Soon as we, soon as we fucking got there, so I get, I get everything I get. I'm like, shit, it's lit.
Now I'm going down to the bar.

Speaker 2 I I go down to the bar. As soon as I get down to the bar, it was some random girl, like some Paris girl.
She's like, Do you want to be my boyfriend?

Speaker 2 And I was like, Yeah, I want to be your boyfriend.

Speaker 2 And then we went together. And then we was boyfriend and girlfriend for that whole weekend for five days.
It was only a weekend, dude. Festival, festival flings are the best flings.

Speaker 2 But it was like that happened for me literally my first hour I was there. And then I was like, all right, she's like, just go to the Newt Beach.
We went to the Nude Beach and fucking ate primes.

Speaker 2 You want to go back to the business?

Speaker 2 What? Does this chick even know you? Or is she like, these are this is where the musicians are? Like, this one's cool. This will do.
I don't think,

Speaker 2 no. Actually, she did know who I was because I've seen her before.
I actually seen her at Coachella.

Speaker 2 And then she seen me at Primavera. I was like, Denny, you want to be my boyfriend? I was like, sure.

Speaker 2 That was wild times back then. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't do that now. I know, sugar whales.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Guys, don't do drugs.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It'll ruin your life.
Blah, blah, blah. But anyway,

Speaker 2 that's so customer service friendly.

Speaker 2 So that's why, in my head, that might be the best festival ever. It might not be.
It's the best to know what you want. No, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 In my head, that might be the reason that's the best festival.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Like, actually, no, the sound was terrible.

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? And I was rolling the entire time. I didn't sleep the entire time I was there.
It was horrible.

Speaker 2 What was your drug? It was Molly. Molly.
MDMA, baby. It's so fucking good.
And they had the crystals.

Speaker 2 I know that. Just dropping rocks.
Like,

Speaker 2 just crunching it.

Speaker 2 Wilding out, man. When I think about those times, it was like, man.

Speaker 2 I'm just, I'm glad to be alive. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 A lot of risks we're taking. I mean, did you have to, that was pre-fent, right? You didn't have to worry about it.

Speaker 2 Oh, what a good time. I know.
I was just watching something today. They were saying like 90% of the cocaine got fent.

Speaker 2 And I was like, damn.

Speaker 2 You know, because all that fent shit was going down right before I quit and shit. So I'm pretty sure I probably bumped into a fent pack here and there.

Speaker 2 Like I was saying, like all my all the motherfuckers that I used to get fucked up with, I'm like, I'm pretty sure all the motherfuckers don't, they doing fan. I mean, not purposely.
Just some.

Speaker 2 But yeah, they probably addicted to the fent and don't even know it. But I tested a baggie once, and it was like, of like a lot, and it was like, oh, it's positive.

Speaker 2 I've already done it for this bag. Damn.
It was like my third time going into it. Molly? Yeah, I think it was Molly.
And then it was like, but we've used it and we didn't die. No, they did it.

Speaker 2 We were testing. We were like, well, this one's safe because we didn't die.
They did it right.

Speaker 2 Right. Exactly.
Exactly.

Speaker 2 It's like that Michael Jackson stuff. She's like, just not too much.

Speaker 2 That was good. Why was that Molly so good?

Speaker 2 Just that little extra.

Speaker 2 It's like that keep sprinkle of fentanyl. That seasoning.
That fentanyl seasoning.

Speaker 2 That's fucked up. Don't do drugs.
Don't do drugs. Obviously, I don't do drugs.
Whatever.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's like this whole shit. Like, you know, I started back smoking weed, but as soon as if this THC ban is happening here like that, I'm done.
I'm not. THC ban.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're talking about banning all THC products. Like THC in the basis.
Yeah. So the loophole is going to go away? Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 2 But it's going to take some time for it to happen.

Speaker 2 Let's talk about Primavera sound.

Speaker 2 So then you were using. Did you ever go into like the crowd there? Yeah.
I was wilding out then, yeah. What'd you do? You were just like going and hanging out with my girlfriend.

Speaker 2 Going to see shows. Whatever she wanted to do.
I was doing whatever she wanted to do.

Speaker 2 What was it or do? Besides music? We was just getting drunk, like going, you know, sitting there, going to random, just bar hopping type of shit.

Speaker 2 Bar hopping until it was a show that you wanted to see. Bar hopping.
What do you mean bar hopping? Just like going from bar to bar. I mean, they had like in the festival? Or like outside?

Speaker 2 Yeah, outside in the city. Wait, how does the festival work? You can just go in and out.
It's really easy. Yeah, when you got artist pass or shit.
But it's like close? No.

Speaker 2 I like leaving, going out to certain places and shit. Hey guys, I'm going to break into today's episode and let you know a little bit about Danny Brown.
This is the first thing I'm doing.

Speaker 2 Public, so I'm going to pretend like I'm on my phone. That'll help me

Speaker 2 feel able to be free. Yeah, I'm just talking to a friend.
See that? Man, no sound difference at all if I go like this. And yet here I am pretending to talk on my phone.
I'm in front of

Speaker 2 Bolivia's greatest general, his first full president after Bolivar stepped down.

Speaker 2 And maybe one of the greatest generals in Latin American history. To let you know about one of the greatest rappers of all time, it's Danny Brown.
He is,

Speaker 2 I've heard him described as a Richard Pryor of hip-hop. And man, I didn't fully understand it until I heard this album, Stardust.

Speaker 2 It is. Okay, I'm just going to tell you right now, we were going to do this podcast probably three months earlier.

Speaker 2 And before it started, Danny was like, hey, can I play you my new album? And I was like, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 And then he played it for me. And I'm telling you, man,

Speaker 2 I couldn't do the podcast afterwards. It's so fucking good.

Speaker 2 It's beyond, it's like,

Speaker 2 I don't even know how to describe it. It's a concept album.
And it starts and it finishes with

Speaker 2 one question.

Speaker 2 What am I doing this for?

Speaker 2 And in between the question and the answer,

Speaker 2 he takes you through just a tour of every different genre of

Speaker 2 hip-hop there is. I mean, this song is like, oh, this is a

Speaker 2 Denver Grime. Oh, this song, this is like, oh, Chicago slip-bop.

Speaker 2 he's legitimately like on another level

Speaker 2 and the question starts he posts it what am i doing this for

Speaker 2 it's a concept album so it's loosely based on himself and in the end he he gives you the answer

Speaker 2 i'm doing it for you i'm doing it for the fans

Speaker 2 i mean

Speaker 2 It was so fucking good. I called Daniel Simonson afterwards.
I was like, Danny, I can't do a podcast now. This thing is,

Speaker 2 it's moved me. Danny Brown is probably one of my most unlikely friends.

Speaker 2 I mean, the odds of us becoming and starting a friendship is, it was slim tonight.

Speaker 2 You know, I grew up upper middle class, religious, Jewish.

Speaker 2 And Danny Brown is retarded.

Speaker 2 But this album, Stardust, is not retarded. And you know, it pains me not to call something retarded.
I mean, there's there's almost nothing in my life that I don't want to call retarded.

Speaker 2 It hurts, actually.

Speaker 2 Danny, I'd love to call this album retarded. I just can't do it.

Speaker 2 Fuck.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's really frustrating. You know, I mean, if you know me at all, you know how much I love calling things retarded.
And Danny, you are retarded. But this album is just another thing.

Speaker 2 God damn.

Speaker 2 Anyway, you guys, it's available right now. For the cheap skates, like myself.
Listen to it on Spotify. I mean, listen to it all the way through.
Don't stop. You got to give yourself an hour.

Speaker 2 I mean, the DJs that he has on this thing are fucking wild,

Speaker 2 undiscovered,

Speaker 2 hyper-pop. I know that's not what you're supposed to call them, but for whatever reason, they're much more aggressive than

Speaker 2 some of the other pop DJs.

Speaker 2 Is that the right word, Danny? DJs? Oh, the guy who makes, you know, makes the beats. Danny also is touring right now.
You can see all his tour dates.

Speaker 2 I wrote it down.

Speaker 2 I'm going to one.

Speaker 2 All tour dates are available at x Danny BrownX on Instagram.

Speaker 2 No, he's at xdannybrownx on Instagram. DannyBrown.warp.net.
What?

Speaker 2 What's Danny Brown taking? See, retarded. That's what I'm talking about.
Legitimately, retarded. Let's just go with Danny Brown.
Why wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 He's going to be in Minneapolis at the Uptown. I played there.
Standing room only for him.

Speaker 2 The whole back row for me. Empty.
Denver, Sacramento, Salt Lake, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Santa Ana. This is all this year.

Speaker 2 San Diego, Tempe, Austin, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Baltimore, Philadelphia at the TLA. That's where Dice did his fucking best album.

Speaker 2 Theater of Living Arts. Brooklyn at the Warsaw.
That's going to go fucking off. And then next year, he's in London at Victoria Park.
In August, I'm fucking, Danny, give me free tickets.

Speaker 2 You know, I don't pay for shows. Also, guys,

Speaker 2 the first time I went to see him, it was somewhere on the west side of

Speaker 2 New York. I couldn't believe it.
I felt like I was in ecstasy, and I was not.

Speaker 2 God damn, he's so fucking good. Guys, get started us right now.

Speaker 2 Big shout out to Warp Records for putting this out and for fucking believing in the process this must have taken to make this high level of fucking concept album. I just can't understand it.

Speaker 2 It's really, it was like, not much moves me, but it was like,

Speaker 2 it was like moving.

Speaker 2 God damn. It was like legitimately.
I called Daniel. He was like, he was like, so you ready to do the podcast? Danny said, and I was like, dude, I can't do that now.

Speaker 2 I can't talk about some fucking festival in

Speaker 2 wherever, Barcelona.

Speaker 2 I gotta process this. I mean, legitimately.

Speaker 2 Anyway, whatever. Listen, hip-hop's not my world, but great things are my world, and this is a great thing.
I'm gonna show you a picture of Bolivar.

Speaker 2 For myself,

Speaker 2 you can find me at this podcast. Is that all of Danny's stuff? Oh, Alto Corenta.
The last album was fucking great.

Speaker 2 The one about gentrification. Jen's terrific vacation.

Speaker 2 That's my favorite.

Speaker 2 And just see him all every week on the Danny Brown show right here on the YMH

Speaker 2 network. I've been on there two different times.
Go start with one of those episodes if you have to watch it.

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Speaker 2 Anyway, she'd love it. She heard it.
She'd love it, guaranteed. But also, you don't have to be that to love it.
It was just, you have to love great things.

Speaker 2 All right, let's get back to the episode. More festivals.
Maybe miss festivals.

Speaker 2 Let me show you Boldy Bar real quick. quick.

Speaker 2 I mean

Speaker 2 Sucre, greatest general in history of Parkinson.

Speaker 2 Maybe Latin American. Self-set of Pachincha, Ayacucho.

Speaker 2 Fucking wild. Alright.

Speaker 2 Let's go back to the episode. Because

Speaker 2 it'd be like different stages all around the city type shit. It's like they got one spot with like maybe three or four stages, but then they got a couple other stages in other places.

Speaker 2 And your passwords everywhere? Yeah. Wait, wait, wait.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I thought it was just like Bonnaroo or like Glastonbury or Horse Army. It's huge.
They got the main part is huge, but then they also do have a few stages that's elsewhere.

Speaker 2 Maybe just one stage that's elsewhere. Maybe not a few.
But I do know we left and went like a nice Uber ride to a whole nother stage, like downtown somewhere, a whole nother area.

Speaker 2 Because I remember because this motherfucker was pissing in his mouth. I can't remember the fucking band.
Wait, what? He was on stage.

Speaker 2 I can't remember the band that did this, but he was on stage and he pulled his dick out and he started pissing in the air and catching it in his mouth.

Speaker 2 And I was rolling on Molly at the time and I was like, man,

Speaker 2 am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? Like, I was fucked up. I remember that's when it started peeking on me, too.
I was like,

Speaker 2 what am I seeing? Like, you know what I'm saying? That's figured where you're like, I know I'm saying this, but I know I'm also on drugs. So I can't be sure what's happening.

Speaker 2 So I was like, oh, and I was getting that wave.

Speaker 2 Oh, shit. Who pissed in their mouth? What year was it?

Speaker 2 What year was it? Do you remember? No, whatever year I was that I played it. You only went once? Yeah.
I mean, I played that when I played Porto, but I only been at the Barcelona once.

Speaker 2 Find that video. It had to be, because that was last time.
I did the vice interview with A. Sal Rocky.
So that had to be

Speaker 2 maybe 2012. No, maybe 2013, 14.
Wait, he's pissing. First of all, yeah, he's pissing the ball.
I mean, Gigi Allen was already dead. Wasn't him.

Speaker 2 And then just casting it. It was a band.
I can't remember. It was pretty popular because it was a bunch of people at the stage.
How hyped did the crowd get? They loved it. I bet.

Speaker 2 I mean, I bet. First, like, what what are you doing? And then when he got it, I can imagine the crowd's like, yeah,

Speaker 2 that shit is crazy. Like a little arc and then back down.
Yeah, I didn't enjoy it.

Speaker 2 I'm like, oh, no, they've got to get out of here. This is borderline too gay.
Yeah, I don't know. I just don't know

Speaker 2 what's to come. Like, how do you top this?

Speaker 2 I was at a burlesque kind of showroom place.

Speaker 2 Where at? New York.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 somebody pooped into a toilet, stood on the toilet, and pooped into it. Oh.

Speaker 2 Left at the box? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, I know.

Speaker 2 I didn't go. I haven't been to.
No, I haven't been to the New York one. I went to the London one.
That's a London box? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 It was a great time. I mean, I wasn't, I didn't see nothing too crazy, I think.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But the reason I say it is because once they reach into the toilet with their hand, I'm like, we're pulling the curtains. I don't want to be, I don't know where this is going to go.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's that feeling. You went by yourself?

Speaker 2 to the box, yeah. No, but Chappelle used to have uh comedians' balls there, that's how I got to know it.

Speaker 2 He would just like have comics, he'd just like open bar, he'd have people who knew all the levels of comics.

Speaker 2 So, somebody's like, I don't know, someone else was like, They're good, and it's like, Okay, damn, that's fire, yeah.

Speaker 2 He just like opened, just enjoy the box, but it would still be, they would still be putting on normal box shows and shit. Okay, yeah,

Speaker 2 it was so cool.

Speaker 2 I saw him once, too, and it was like, I, you know, I barely run into him, but I was like, Oh, hey, uh, you gotta, I got a hand job at your party. He goes,

Speaker 2 Yes, man, that's why I do it.

Speaker 2 That's right.

Speaker 2 So, okay, so tell me more about Barcelona. You like it there? What are the bars like?

Speaker 2 I can't say I really remember too much, being that I was rolling on Mali for the most part.

Speaker 2 But.

Speaker 2 God, festivals rule. Barcelona, I just really liked that.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's like a freedom place. But I did also, we did go check out a lot of skate parks and shit, and that was cool.
You skate? No.

Speaker 2 But I was saying, like, you know, I was with my homies from Trash Talk, and they, you know, they super into skate culture. They got the brand Babylon and all that shit.
So

Speaker 2 they was all skating and shit. I was just hanging out with them.
You just go with your girlfriend? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the girlfriend. I think she might have split off for me.
This one, we might have broke up. I mean, not broke up, but we had parted ways for a little bit of time.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because I had other obligations. I had like interviews and press and shit to do.
Oh, I thought you meant other children. And I didn't, that was the thing.
I was up all night.

Speaker 2 I didn't shower or nothing. And then they say, you know, like, you got to interview.
I was just showing up the place just dirty than a motherfucker with pajamas on.

Speaker 2 It was a wild time. It must be so great to be a musician where you're like, this isn't a professional.
This is a professional. But it was.
Oh, right. I didn't sleep enough.

Speaker 2 So then I'm just taking more Molly to wake up. How were your shows? Show?

Speaker 2 The show, it was horrible because, being that I was just rolling off Molly so much, I decided to wear a leather jacket with no shirt up under. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then by the time nighttime, by the time I was going on stage, it was like 40 degrees outside.

Speaker 2 The Molly wasn't working. So I was uncomfortable drinking Hennessy, trying to warm up.
It's like, oh, it's over. Do you ever get too fucked up to do a show?

Speaker 2 I mean, I was not too fucked up to do the show, but up there not doing the show the right way,

Speaker 2 ruining the show. Yeah.
I've done that, got up there, and just forgot every lyric I wrote. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I used to do that a lot. That was really bad.

Speaker 2 How does that feel? That's horrible. I mean,

Speaker 2 if it's at comics, we can just be like, there is no script. It doesn't set anything.
I mean, so that's what happened. I would just like go to the next song and then maybe try it.

Speaker 2 Maybe they won't notice it. And then I'll fuck up that song.
And then I'll get to the point where I just end up rambling on stage, talking shit. Damn.
Just drunk.

Speaker 2 Are there festivals that are better and worse, like stage-wise?

Speaker 2 We're like set up right for comedy. It's like some festivals.
Obviously, because you know, some festivals, they have these big sponsors that's paying for everything.

Speaker 2 Then you get some festivals that don't really, you know, like I played a festival, I want to say, um,

Speaker 2 last year, somewhere around Ireland, somewhere. And it was, you could tell it was really, I mean, it was like the biggest thing for the city, but it was a small town type place.

Speaker 2 And it's like, we just don't, we don't have a shit. It was like, you know, like on a farm or some shit.
Yeah. I've been to some crazy shit.

Speaker 2 I've been to some festivals before where you're getting taken. You're like, hold up.
Are we really about to play a show or am I being kidnapped right now? Where are we going?

Speaker 2 I don't see. I haven't seen a tree of nothing.
We just look like

Speaker 2 we've been kidnapped.

Speaker 2 Some of them really are the middle of the show. You're like, what the fuck? Like, the gathering of the jugglos used to be the most random middle of nowhere

Speaker 2 ever. Sturgis, yeah, I've never been to a Sturgis.
Oh, that's true. They almost booked me one year, and then it didn't happen.

Speaker 2 I think, no, they booked me, and then I think my managers or something, they was like, I don't think it's a good idea. That's like the last minute.
It's just the biker festival? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I remember I did get booked up with a Sturgis. Damn, I'd be cool to see.
I know, right? You know, there's some like gross fucking my old lady sex.

Speaker 2 Happening everywhere. Yeah.
Biker sex. But this, I mean, I'm happy this year.
This is like the first time I really get a break of not torn. Yeah.
I mean, and then I'm done with the album.

Speaker 2 So it's like, what the fuck? I really have like, I don't have to worry about working. I could just really just enjoy my summer.
But guess what? I'm not about to do that. I'm about to go back to work.

Speaker 2 I'm about to start working on the next album. I'm like, fuck it.
Immediately. Yeah.
This new album, by the way, I got to say, what's the title? Stardust. Stardust.

Speaker 2 It's

Speaker 2 so cool and interesting. It's like sprawling.

Speaker 2 I mean, the range of like, of like lyrically, I mean, musically is a different thing too, but like lyrically from, from like,

Speaker 2 I don't know, finding what your place in the world is and coming to terms with like your, your, who your fans are and why you're making art in the first place to like roadhead.

Speaker 2 It's such a fucking, it's such a lofty fucking task you brought up. Thank you.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 I'm telling you, man, we were going to do this podcast before, but then you played the album and I was like, I got to think this over. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But the version you heard, I think we cut a few songs, so it's shorter now. Remember, I had it longer.
He was like, yeah, this is pretty long. It's long for sure.
Yeah, but now, so we cut a few songs.

Speaker 2 And it's a, what do you call it? A, um,

Speaker 2 like a story album. Yeah, it's like a concept album.
Loosely based, loosely based scripted concept album. I just thought it was so fucking interesting.

Speaker 2 I mean, I had to call my friend Daniel that you met, Simonson, and just like talk about it.

Speaker 2 You're the Richard Pryor of music. I think you and MM.
You're not the first person to say that. You remember?

Speaker 2 The first time I ever heard that was Ali Shaheed Muhammad from the Tower of Call Quest.

Speaker 2 And I remember this when I was first coming out, I was getting popping and shit. And he was like, he was kind of like being like a mentor for me, type of shit.

Speaker 2 He bought me my first fucking MacBook. Like, I didn't have a computer.
And I was like writing, working on music and stuff. I was like, man, if I could just get a computer.

Speaker 2 He's like, you don't got a computer? Like, no. You know what I'm saying? I know.
I look up one day. It's a fucking MacBook I delivered to my Creole.
It's like, what the fuck? But anyway, I got that.

Speaker 2 I remember one time, but he was telling me that, but he was telling me it. He's like, you'd like the Richard Pryor rap and shit.

Speaker 2 But he was like, you got to learn how to tone down the shock value in some sense.

Speaker 2 Like, it's cool to be able to say whatever the fuck you want, but you got to realize there's repercussions that come with that shit. And he was right.
Explain that. And he was right.
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 All right. Even just something small as, I wouldn't say this is small, but how I used to make so many overly sexual songs.
Then my daughter is in high school and they find out I'm her dad.

Speaker 2 Now they think she's a fucking freak just because. Oh, right.
Or just promiscuous. And you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Okay. So that's how that type of shit comes back.
Like you're just saying, now I learned my lesson.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know how. What's his name? So it's one of those things where it's, you know, he was just pretty.
And now I understand that. Just like,

Speaker 2 you know, what message are you trying to put out there? Well, it changes too, probably, as you get older. Like, I wanted to put that message out.
Now I want to put this message out.

Speaker 2 I mean, at that time when you were just wanting to get into the game, you know, shock value at that time wasn't a thing. I think when I first shocked

Speaker 2 a bad term, it's like it's got a bad connotation to it. Yeah, especially with comedy.
Yeah, but it's not like, but you weren't going to shock people. You're going to entertain them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but you're just saying shit that you know will raise eyebrow, you know? Right. And that's what I was, that was like kind of like my thing.
And I grew up on rap like that, you know? Right.

Speaker 2 So it was like, yeah, but I totally get, I totally understand it now. You know, I heard sturgils like that where people are like, how come you don't sing about mushrooms and DMT anymore?

Speaker 2 Because I fucking covered it with my dad now. So I don't want I want to talk about that stuff.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 oh, fuck, what was it? And it was the first album. I mean, not the first,

Speaker 2 because obviously I wasn't doing shit my entire life, but since I've been getting fucked up and been since been sober, like making an album sober, like that was so hard for me to just

Speaker 2 learn. It was like I had to reteach myself how to rap again.
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So that took some time to just even be like, yo. Yeah.
So it's like I relearned again. But now I feel like I'm better than fucking ever.

Speaker 2 Like I literally, you know, my girl fucking, um,

Speaker 2 you know, we got this new house and shit. She's like, yo, let's go get some furniture.
I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm thinking ain't no big deal. We go get a couch.
I get up to the register.

Speaker 2 It's fucking $13,000 for the couch. I'm like, oh, shit.

Speaker 2 But I couldn't back out then. So we get the couch.
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Speaker 2 Yeah. But I woke up the next morning and someone had emailed me about doing a verse for like 20k.

Speaker 2 You just got it, and I was like, oh shit, so I did the verse, then they sent the money.

Speaker 2 I was like, see, if I would have been the bitch and didn't want to buy the college, then that verse wouldn't have come. So I looked at it like that.

Speaker 2 Wait, let me tie this into the album and also Barcelona and Spain. The gay culture up there or trans stuff, this might have been before trans was so prevalent when you were doing Primavera.

Speaker 2 How was it? How was it there?

Speaker 2 It always looked like a lot more open-minded than most places. Yeah.
Yeah. But I think, was that the same year Arca played? I don't know.
Who? Arca, who's like one of the hugest artists right now.

Speaker 2 He's definitely trying to work with Arca this album, but it didn't work out.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 The way you told me it was all these trans producers. But it was just, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 It was just...

Speaker 2 It just worked in my world of just alternative experimental shit. And I was just hearing the craziest beats and shit.
Like, it started out with me really,

Speaker 2 like when me and Peggy was making Scaring the holes and then he put me up on a dario core who which i didn't know was jane remover at the time and then i was like yo we can do some shit like this but i was into hyper pop already at that time with like a hundred gex and shit like that but i wasn't deep into the deep into the real shit of it you know i knew about like dorian and you know stuff like that but once i got into jane and all them it was like it was i mean i that's why you know i credit them so much for this album jane and um

Speaker 2 underscores because like when i first heard their albums that's like i fell back in love with music again

Speaker 2 what were they doing

Speaker 2 just like fat fat it's like try to explain that to me I mean well with the underscores album just having something so um

Speaker 2 just just a dialed-in concept album oh really it was just something that was so conceptual and just big you know yeah so you know me that dude it goes so far it comes from like

Speaker 2 what am I doing here in life and in this in this in music and whatever your thing is

Speaker 2 you know this one obviously was music but then it's like it's really just speaking to anybody who does anything. Yeah, you know, you know, you're building both.
It's open to interpretation.

Speaker 2 Yeah, try to leave it like that. But yeah, like to like full, like, I've lost it all.
I've fucking, you know, I've negated everything. We threw songs at different places of this thing.

Speaker 2 I mean, I don't, man, I was just like.

Speaker 2 When I say you're the Richard Pryor, and Daniel says it too, it's like, there's a story of him being up in the belly room at the comedy store at daytime, just like turning the mic on and just like speaking into it so he could like make himself hear noises and like cover just like weirdness.

Speaker 2 That's crazy. Not about like the drug use or anything like that,

Speaker 2 but just like, just like fucking with the form.

Speaker 2 And people don't be seeing shit like, you know what I'm saying? Like, people don't see that side of the shit.

Speaker 2 So that might be some correlation there in some sense of even how I go about taking my approach to making music. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 All right, let's get back to Barcelona.

Speaker 2 What's the skate scene like there? What would the picture be? I mean, like I say, I didn't, I don't really know, but because like I say, I'm not

Speaker 2 for four days. I'm not super duper into skate culture like that, but I do know that it was a different level of what I've seen of just going to normal skate parks.
Like these was pros.

Speaker 2 Like this was like, do you know what I'm saying? It's like full of like professionals.

Speaker 2 It was probably some bunch of famous motherfuckers. I just didn't know what they was.
That's so cool. But it was dope, man.
Just that whole scene out there, man. And then.

Speaker 2 It's just a party. It's just a party and lifestyle out there, man.
Were the other musicians hanging out and partying?

Speaker 2 Like the other.

Speaker 2 i was hanging out with trash talk so but i was friends with them but i'm trying to think and i was hanging out with like rocky and them but no i don't i don't think i had

Speaker 2 yeah i don't think i had many friends that was out there at the time did you so like the the the versions of festivals like the range of like star to not star like i've been on some with like the black keys but like we're not we both get the same pass yeah but like we're not hanging out you know so the non-star the 3 p.m band yeah they can do whatever they want they can just walk no one knows them

Speaker 2 They just walk through, do whatever. But then sometimes, like with those artist areas, they do put a time limit on you.

Speaker 2 So let's just say you get a trailer, and then another band got, after you play your set, you got to get out the trailer, then another band. Take some trailer.

Speaker 2 And you can chill around if you want, but you ain't got no trailer no more. And that's when it's like, all right, play the crowd or go home.
Yeah, Big J, we were in

Speaker 2 Ottawa Blues Fest.

Speaker 2 Ottawa? Yeah. Oh, okay.
It was like a three-week festival. It was blues, or that was just.
I think it started that way. Oh, but they call it blues.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they'll do like one like blues band a day or something jazzy, whatever, like Jack White or something. Yeah, exactly.
And it's all just like that. Yeah, it was like Call Me Maybe season four.

Speaker 2 You know, but um,

Speaker 2 anyway, he was like, We're like, let's go up to like, we can get in between the stage and the and the crowd. And I'm like, no, he goes, we've got these artist passes.

Speaker 2 Like, they're going to know that it's, we're not like, whatever. And Jay was like, what do you mean they're going to, we, we are artists.
We're on. I'm like, but not technically.

Speaker 2 He goes, no, what are you talking about? We're on the festival. That didn't make sense to me.
No, it's good. But, like, some of those, like, I know with Coachella, you know, they got main stage, and

Speaker 2 I think it's just main stage passes. So you can't get in there.
Yeah, that's true. So you can go to all the other stages, but you can't go to main stage.
Because I got to be annoying as hell.

Speaker 2 You're Wynne Butler, and then some fucking young band was like, can I show you my thing? He's like, come on, man. But also, it was fucking Lady Gaga hairlining.
And you know, she don't play that shit.

Speaker 2 So it was like, everybody, the whole shit clear out. Get the fuck on.
Lady Gaga cut. You know what I heard about Madonna?

Speaker 2 No idea if this is true or not. New toilet in her dressing room.
And then you got to clear the toilet when she's gone. Yeah.
Because you don't want anybody taking her DNA. No, I believe that.

Speaker 2 Because I've heard some crazy stories about Madonna. Like, I was watching some, I'd be watching engineer videos and shit.
I'm talking about doing like sessions with artists and shit.

Speaker 2 And there was this one engineer that was saying, you know,

Speaker 2 she got her writer of shit that she used in the studio, and that's all. She don't use nothing else.
That's it. And they got everything for her.
She went in there and she recorded.

Speaker 2 She's like, it don't sound right. This ain't it.
And he just got totally mad and beef with the like, we got everything you needed.

Speaker 2 But, you know, some artists, man, after you've been doing this shit for so long, I think you got the right to be an asshole. Because

Speaker 2 you go through so much shit of people taking advantage of you in this music industry, man.

Speaker 2 You got to have your defense mechanisms. Yeah.
Heard a story about Louis playing some arena. And then he was like, hey, turn the lights down for the, like, sound check and stuff.

Speaker 2 He goes, turn the lights down. And I want the sound up to this.
And the lady's like, well, no, usually you set it to here. He goes, I know, I know, but I want it down.

Speaker 2 She goes, well, usually we we set the lights to here. And he goes, Lady, you're gonna do it.
Either I have to go over your head or not, but just fucking do it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I thought she was about to say he turned the lights down and started jacking off.

Speaker 2 Not again.

Speaker 2 You can say whatever you want. He was never accused of turning the lights down.

Speaker 2 Oh, he had that before. I was going to see this.
In no report, did it say the lights went dimmer.

Speaker 2 He had a ring light on.

Speaker 2 Just like around the dick so he really shines on there. Let me get my ring light out.

Speaker 2 Tell me more about Primavera sound and like going out there because I didn't realize it was a city festival like that. Man, I'm jealous because I only got it to play that one time.

Speaker 2 I want the motherfuckers to bring me back. Well, I did play the Porto.
The Porto one, but that one blows. I mean, I wouldn't say it blows, but that's just a different vibe in city.
Yeah. I feel like,

Speaker 2 I don't know. I wouldn't say racist, but.
Oh, Porto? It's just felt the, I felt the vibe walking around the city being like, I don't know if I'm safe.

Speaker 2 Are there some festivals where you're like, you're like a,

Speaker 2 as like a black guy or rapper, you're like the token?

Speaker 2 I remember one of the Oasis guys got mad when Jay-Z is. Yeah, when he headlines

Speaker 2 right here, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't consider it to be a token because to me, I feel like it's...

Speaker 2 It's a privilege. Not a privilege, but I feel honored.

Speaker 2 When you have a festival that's like predominantly rock and roll and it's like a lot of bunch of different genres on there, and then I'm like the only rapper.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that makes me feel like I don't feel like I'm a token in that scenario. I feel it makes me feel like I'm that good.
Like,

Speaker 2 I mean, maybe like a few years ago, Glastonbury, like the same festival we just talked about, they only had maybe like four rappers on there, and I was one of them, and it was no name, the other rapper that's from Chicago.

Speaker 2 So, we were like the only two American rappers that was there. So, to me, I feel like that's like props.
Like, yeah, they know who the fuck with. That's cool.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 Because they can get anybody. It's fucking fucking Glastonberry.
So, for you to pick me,

Speaker 2 and then the list was that small. So, hey.
Also, I'm older than you, but like, when I was coming up, it was rap was such a different world than rock. And it seems like it's so blended now.

Speaker 2 It's just like these songs are just songs. Yeah.
And it's like, oh, you happen to be rapping, but it's like, especially like with you and JPEG, it was like, this is like...

Speaker 2 Honestly, this is kind of electronica. Yeah.
If anything. Yeah.
But I think it's more so with me. I don't know about anybody else, but that's what I was raised on.
Being from Detroit and Techno.

Speaker 2 And, you know, even my homie, he was just, you know, they came up here to help me move and chick. They just did movement, you know, Detroit, the movement festival in Detroit, the China Festival.

Speaker 2 And they were just telling me, like, man, techno is back. I'm like, techno is back? They're like, yes, techno is fucking back.
Straight techno. Which I can believe, though.
It's about

Speaker 2 time for the resurgence. Yeah.

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That's like my kind of music.

Speaker 2 But I do love,

Speaker 2 what is that?

Speaker 2 Trezor in Berlin.

Speaker 2 Oh, the club. Yeah.
You ever been there? I've been to another one there. I've been to a few of there.
But Trezor, man.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm saying, like, me, the music of techno and like the fan of like electronic Detroit music and all that shit. Yeah.
Like that's like, that's where it's appreciated.

Speaker 2 And there's one where it had upstairs was house and then downstairs was techno.

Speaker 2 And that's the only, and it's the only time I knew I could tell the difference between the two because I would like listen for a while. Warehouse type of situation.

Speaker 2 I think we might be talking about the same shit. But it was huge.
It was like maybe a few floors, I want to say. that.

Speaker 2 I know I was like, I was, and I had went, because they invited me out, and I, and I went by myself and shit, but I was just like. Did you really? Yeah, I was like,

Speaker 2 I was probably in there for maybe, I just really went shit because I wanted to meet them because I've been a fan of, you know,

Speaker 2 of how much they supported, you know, if it wasn't for Berlin, like, ghetto tech probably wouldn't be what it is. Ghetto Tech? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I love these names of genres.

Speaker 2 So I was just like, you know, I always just knew like Trezor and Berlin was like a, you know, that was like the mecca for some.

Speaker 2 Drugs are crazy there. Because so I went with a guy, and eventually he's like, I got to leave.
I got my kids' fucking soccer tournament tomorrow.

Speaker 2 And I was like, all right, well, I'm staying. And then you just find friends who are like there.
They're like, want to come to the bathroom? I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 2 Whatever you're going to do, let's do it.

Speaker 2 Oh, it's so fun. You don't have to be with anybody.
No.

Speaker 2 And it's just jumping.

Speaker 2 It was crazy. I mean, I wish I was more into my wild stage.
Then you were already sobered up? No. I mean, no, not really, but I was at that phase of my life where I was new.

Speaker 2 You go to the dark room there? No.

Speaker 2 I just found out this last trip what a dark room is. It's just for like.
Yeah, it's some gay shit. Yeah, gay shit.
It's like home, the Home Depot bathroom. That's the dark room.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then, like, the etiquette, what I've heard is, like, you can come in just to snort something and get out, but, like, come on, get in, get out.

Speaker 2 This is for fucking. Yeah, that's, that's real shit.
Anybody in here playing games? You in here bone bonehawking? Get your ass up out of here.

Speaker 2 What are you doing?

Speaker 2 Who are you texting? My mom? No, my realtor. Okay, cool.

Speaker 2 Cut up Danny Brown saying my realtor.

Speaker 2 All right, tell me more about Primavera or Barcelona in general or Spain. What did you do while you were there? I told you.
I had my girlfriend. Yeah.

Speaker 2 How'd you break up with her? You're just like, this was great? No, actually,

Speaker 2 we had exchanged info, and then we used to, I used to go to Paris, and I see her when I get into Paris, and then we just lost contact. Black chick or white chick, she's white.

Speaker 2 I just literally just lost contact. I remember every time I'd be at some, well, not anymore, but I used to be in Paris.
I'd be like, dang, I wonder what this bitch is up to.

Speaker 2 Heck, you just talked to her. Oh, God, festival flames.

Speaker 2 But sometimes, you know what I'd be thinking? Like, when you meet, this is my theory of it. Like, you met girls and you're like, damn, I wonder what happened to that bitch.
That bitch dead.

Speaker 2 I was thinking about it, like, that bitch probably died.

Speaker 2 I ain't seen her. It's so funny you try to look it up on Facebook or something or like wherever you were just not there.
Yeah, she did. Yeah, or had kids.
We are at that age, yeah.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm saying. We at that age where motherfuckers got married and had kids.
And, you know. Do you remember we used to get wild and do Molly and shit?

Speaker 2 Do you ever think about those girls where you're like, okay, you're a mom now, whatever. And you're like, I wonder if your kids know.
You have a seven-year-old son.

Speaker 2 If he knows what a wild bitch you were. I don't want to think about my mom like that.
You think about doing drugs and bathrooms. Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 But no, man.

Speaker 2 I mean, if your dad was a DJ,

Speaker 2 right? Yeah, but it was, that's, I would say it's more a hobby. Oh, okay.
Then him going out there. I mean, he had kids, man.
He was like, those DJ dreams died.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but he had to have turned it up once or twice. Yeah, my dad.
I mean, he had to have at least had a night or something. My dad was in the streets for show.
Yeah. He was in the streets.

Speaker 2 I love that term.

Speaker 2 I mean, yeah.

Speaker 2 Do you ever, oh, do you see what's that called? The fuck it, who are those Irish rappers? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Kneecap. Kneecap with Buckfast all day and all night.
Yeah, I fucks with them. Yeah.
But yeah, I got up on them from that shit. But yeah, I fucks with kneecap.

Speaker 2 Yeah. What was the booze and the food situation like at Primavera? I mean, they had good

Speaker 2 stuff there. I wasn't eating.

Speaker 2 For one thing, I don't think I ate the entire. I ate some prawns.
Like I told you, you ate some prawns on the beach and shit. Some what? Prawns? Prawns.

Speaker 2 The ass shrimps yeah yeah we ate some of them that's the only thing i remember how you do molly for three four days that's crazy i know you just keep re-upping no i had bought a lot i'm saying like you just keep like yeah starting to wear it out go starting to wear down you try to sleep i think you slept you closed your eyes you looked at your eyelids for for three hours maybe yeah i didn't get up and then it was like gone i looked at

Speaker 2 such a great term i remember because i mean we i guess we tried to sleep but i mean motherfuckers laid down but then i do remember we was right back up it was literally probably nine in the morning we was on the beach drinking again wow what time did the festival start every day

Speaker 2 maybe about one maybe noon one okay we're on a time somebody told me it was like a it was like a it was like a seven to two

Speaker 2 festival now 7 p.m to 2 a.m primivera yeah it might be i wouldn't doubt it that makes sense but i like that because i do remember i did play at super where i was like this is this i play at like dinner at midnight or something like that and i was like this is trash that's what i don't like i don't like playing super late like that i know but if everyone's up

Speaker 2 like like uh the problem with like

Speaker 2 it's camping festivals and then like non-camping festivals non-camping festivals are over at 11 that means the headliner gets on at 9 30 and they have to be done in an hour and a half oh yeah and then everyone pours out but like 11 i'm not done

Speaker 2 where everyone's on drugs and they're pouring us out into the city so you ever you ever camped at a festival yeah i mean

Speaker 2 I always think like, so motherfuckers don't be fucking in the tents and shit.

Speaker 2 I did not.

Speaker 2 But there was a girl that, if I had found her, I could have fucked in a tent.

Speaker 2 I just couldn't find her. I was trying.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's what I think of my hair. Like, it's just, motherfuckers got, because I'm at a festival, man.
I'm doing my, we fucking, man.

Speaker 2 Well, dude, one year I had an RV and this chick I was just talking to, and then, and then she was like, she was like looking around. I was like, can I take a shower in here later? I was like, yeah.

Speaker 2 And she was like, want to have a festival fling? And it was dull on the back of that RV. That was fire.
Yeah. This ain't easy.
Because even now, I've been watching the P. Diddy trial.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And they talked about this motherfucker was going to Burning Man. See, I was like, this nigga was turning Burning Man to Diddy parties.
I knew I wanted to go for a reason.

Speaker 2 I just thought it was a sand.

Speaker 2 That's my only concern. Didi was out there getting, wow.
Dude, my concern with getting invited to a Diddy party is like, if you show up and like, oh, it's a Diddy party.

Speaker 2 And I want to be like, which side am I on? But see, this is the thing that I've been watching the trial. From what I'm under.

Speaker 2 I mean, I guess it was freaky shit going on at the parties, but that's not, they're not talking about that. The freak offs is, it was his own private parties.

Speaker 2 That wasn't happening at the big parties that he was having with all the celebrities. So, why does everybody go, I was, I was there, but I left early.

Speaker 2 Yeah, why don't they just go, I was there, I stayed till the end, and then nothing happened? Yeah, I didn't see shit, you know, but yeah, the freak offs was great.

Speaker 2 That one story, they're talking about it was the one, the one male prostitute. He said, um, he came in and he was um dancing for Cassie and shit.
They about to do the thing, and then he looked up.

Speaker 2 The nigga Diddy was like hiding behind the blinds with a hijab on jacking off.

Speaker 2 But like, that bitch, like a jack-off ninja. He's hiding behind shades and curtains with a hijab on beating his shit.

Speaker 2 That is wild.

Speaker 2 The hijab is what got me, but they say he has a bandana. He has all types of, but all the area escort was like, as soon as he said the first word, they knew it was Diddy.

Speaker 2 Like, what the fuck is you doing? I mean, if you that's so funny, trying to be like, take the damn bandana off, man. We know it's you.

Speaker 2 Take that, tape that.

Speaker 2 Where are you fucking that? In your hotel. Huh? For the thing like that, you'll take a trick back to the hotel.
Where do you mean? If you like festival flames type stuff, right, right, right.

Speaker 2 Festival flames. That's some dirty shit.
Motherfuckers be out there musty. Them motherfuckers was stinking.
Everybody stinks. Yeah, man.
That shit is that.

Speaker 2 I will say, what I did notice at this Coachella,

Speaker 2 this new version of kids

Speaker 2 aren't like what we were. Explain.

Speaker 2 And I don't know if it's better or it's worse, but they all seemed a lot respectable.

Speaker 2 I've seen them, I seen them picking up trash and throwing his cigarette butts away and throwing cigarette buttons just seemed like respectful.

Speaker 2 Like, I was like, damn, I remember when we was like festival, like, we were wild and didn't give a fuck. Like, but they out here, they be a nice, like, real respectable kid.

Speaker 2 So, shout out to this new generation, dude. You're always so positive.
That's what I always take. You're right.

Speaker 2 Shout out to the general. For real, they got it together, man.
I really got that. I mean, children are our future.
That is the problem with camping. Glasto, for sure.

Speaker 2 It's like if somebody's drunk and can't find their way to the bathroom, your tent will do fine. Oh, shit.
Yeah. Glastonberry? Yeah.
You clamp that Glastonbury? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Glastonberry scene like, because it rain and shit and fucking, then you're literally just in the middle and a fucking farm type shit, like sheep and shit walking by.

Speaker 2 So you got to bring these boots that are up to here, Wellies.

Speaker 2 I know. Damn.

Speaker 2 I played Glastonbury like three times. Really? How was that to play?

Speaker 2 I mean, it's the, I mean, it's like, you feel like championship game shit.

Speaker 2 Like, I look at some festivals, like, I look at, to me, I always use sports as like a metaphor for music or whatever the fuck.

Speaker 2 So I look at it like, you know, you play your season and you going to festivals getting picked up. That's like going to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 But if you playing like Coachella, Glastonberry, oh, you went to the chip, you playing the championship game now, you know? And you got to put on a show because that's not one you can fuck around.

Speaker 2 I'm fucking strashed.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 my last Glastonberry said, they played on TV. Because, you know, you can watch Glastonbury live on TV.
I'm like, oh, they playing.

Speaker 2 And I didn't find out right until I'm going on stage because I had to sign the paper. And I'm like, she's like, can you sign this? And I'm looking, I'm like, to be broadcasted live.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, and then that was the dope shit because me and my girl, after we left, we stayed in London the next two days. And we just sit in bed and just watch Glass and Berry for another day.

Speaker 2 I'm not sure. The whole time.
Cold Play killed it. God, it rules.
It's so sprawling. And there's like almost different villages you stay in.

Speaker 2 So I was on top of like where the main stage is and there's up this hill and I'm like towards the top of the hill. So how is camping? I mean, you are a camping backpacking type of motherfucker.

Speaker 2 So, for me,

Speaker 2 it still takes some getting used to. The dirt.

Speaker 2 Sleeping on the ground and shit. Give those little pads.
Just to hear music. Shout out to real fans, man.
Because guess what? As much as I love music, I ain't doing that shit.

Speaker 2 You would love it. You couldn't pay me to fit.
You would love it. First of all, the drugs are everywhere.
I'm talking to the old Danny, not now.

Speaker 2 Oh, Danny, yeah, because I would be drunk and I would pass out anyway. I wouldn't give a fuck.
I heard Tyler was in Bonner of the Euros there, just camping. Tyler? Yeah.
The creator? Yeah.

Speaker 2 yeah i don't believe that

Speaker 2 it could have been future

Speaker 2 i don't believe it i mean camping me meaning like they tour bus was there when they stayed at night they just were in in gen pop camping and they slept over i don't i wouldn't i can't see that he'd get mobbed right there's no way you can't even if it's like 2012 2015 man no that wouldn't happen it's fun because you're just there with everybody so it's a community what is the shower and situation wet wipes I'm glad you asked.

Speaker 2 That ain't gonna get it. There's no shower.
You gotta just do that. That ain't gonna get it.
Yeah, for fucking, it's tough. Because you gotta probably use a couple.
That ain't gonna do it.

Speaker 2 You probably gotta use three. Bonnaroo is disgusting, too.
It's so hot.

Speaker 2 And then that gets muddy and dirty. Like, the dirtiest is Bonnaroo.
How do you fuck with a dirty pussy?

Speaker 2 They do it all the time.

Speaker 2 And then there's so much dust in there. As soon as you get wet, the fucking dust is going to connect.
I guess now I'm just saying that's just me. That's just me and my freaky frog thoughts.

Speaker 2 Maybe motherfuckers ain't fucking in them tents because it's too dirty.

Speaker 2 Then where are they fucking? I mean, they're just not. They're like, this is.
Yeah, right. This just can't happen.
We too dirty, man. They're fucking.
Day three? Fuck no.

Speaker 2 Day three, that's when your inhibitions are gone. You're like, everybody's been fucking.
I haven't been fucking. Oh, yeah.
I guess I got to fuck.

Speaker 2 I'll be the dork or driving back six hours back to fucking wherever. I mean, I know those.
I feel like

Speaker 2 the freaky shit is really like EDC.

Speaker 2 But that ain't like tents and shit. That's city.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I feel like that's because that's drug central. Isn't that how Coachella is?

Speaker 2 Everybody goes back to, like, did they camp there? Did they go back to? It'd be like a lot of after-parties and shit. Yeah.
Coachella.

Speaker 2 Because they'd be like, because Coachella got like a lot of houses and shit, like around the grounds, and a lot of people be renting those houses and shit. Yeah.
Parties and shit there.

Speaker 2 Because that's what. I think Charlie had a party at one of their houses not too far.
I think she's going to have a nice future. What do you mean? It's a done deal.

Speaker 2 The future is here.

Speaker 2 You know, she's not British. She's putting on a fake accent.
The future is here. No, Charlie, so British.
Nah, she's faking it. No, man.
Yeah, there's an expose about her. No, man.

Speaker 2 I've known Charlie way too much. In her relation with TMZ.
No, I've known Charlie. She's faking it for props, and it's worked to her favor.
I've known Charlie. Listen, I get it.

Speaker 2 You're defending your friend's fake character, but

Speaker 2 she's from Chicago.

Speaker 2 She's from the streets of Chicago.

Speaker 2 She calls it pop. I mean, that's a good theory.

Speaker 2 No, that's British all day. That's British to the T.
That motherfucker got tuna on it, right?

Speaker 2 Who is that Czech Polish rapper you did one with? Oh, Tyukrenka. Damn, that was good, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 That was really just like, I was in, I had a show in Warsaw. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Where at Auschwitz? No.

Speaker 2 Actually, on some. Wait, what, actually?

Speaker 2 Actually, no, it was the best show in my entire tour. Really? Yeah, I didn't know Warsaw gave it up like that.
I was like, damn, because I've been there before. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But it was a way, it was a long ass time ago. But when I came back, it was like, it was crazy.
It was like one of the best shows that I had. As far as like the turnout.

Speaker 2 Amsterdam was crazy too. But then Tyu Crank was, and then just hit me up.
It was like, yo, he's backstage. And it was just like, obviously, you know, you're backstage.
You got to be somebody.

Speaker 2 I was like, yo.

Speaker 2 And then, you know, just told me who it was. And I was like, all right, I'm checking music out.
And then I went, literally, I was leaving the venue.

Speaker 2 I put on my headphones and I was playing some songs. I was like, oh, this shit kind of dope.
And I just. Fucking DM's like, yo, you want to make some shit? Wow.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 And then I got back to the crib. As soon as I made something that I thought I can hear her own, I sent it to her, knocked it out.
Yeah, that was. The craziest feature was it's Brokey though.

Speaker 2 It's Brokey. Why? It's fucking because these kids are insane.

Speaker 2 Like I literally, I wanted, because Brokey is like one of my favorite rappers right now, so I definitely wanted to have Brokey on the album.

Speaker 2 So I was like, you know, making songs that I thought Brokey would sound dope on. I finally found one.
I sent it to Brokey. I was like, yo, can you do something? She's like, oh, this shit crazy.

Speaker 2 Literally, like 20 minutes later, the verse was back. No.
Like, how the fuck did you just do that? Like, I recorded it off my phone, like your phone and it sounded perfect like it was in a

Speaker 2 million dollar studio where's broke from um the bay oh cool hell yeah how's the how's the bay rap scene now um i don't know i can't say i really know too much about the rap scene that's going on in the bay

Speaker 2 i like this album too i just want to get back at the festivals a second but like but like um It was, it was almost like as you were playing it for me, I felt like it was so cool to be able to like listen to it.

Speaker 2 You're like, this is,

Speaker 2 I don't know, this is Chicago Grime Core. This is Tucson hypey.
This is whatever. And all those like super sub-genres.

Speaker 2 That's just that's the internet in me. That's really all that was just finding these artists like somebody like Centoni, like doing the breakcore stuff.

Speaker 2 Breakcore. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What is that? I mean, I guess to me, breakcore,

Speaker 2 it's

Speaker 2 not,

Speaker 2 I would say just like a sub-genre like drum and bass.

Speaker 2 You know? Sorry, I'm looking for a drum and bass. Or like jungle.
You know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I guess it's a lot more faster, I guess. I don't know.
You fuck around with I like nightcore, too. What's nightcore? Nightcore is just they just speed songs up super fast.

Speaker 2 Any song you can think of, it's a nightmare. It's a nightcore version on the fucking internet.

Speaker 2 They just speed it up and get it. Yeah, it's fast as fuck, and it sounds like chipmunks and shit, but it'd be dope.
You get a New Orleans balls. I'm going to actually nightcore me.

Speaker 2 I'm going to nightcore my album. I'm going to do a nightcore version.
The new. Oh, really? Yeah.
Oh, this album. Just play if it.
What? Yeah, I'm going to do a nightcore version.

Speaker 2 You know, New Orleans Bounds? I love New Orleans Bounds. Big Frida? I play Mad Sounds.

Speaker 2 Big Frida, yeah. You play what? I play mad shows with Frida.
Really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I want to say mad shows, but we've definitely been. We've shared dressing rooms before.

Speaker 2 My friend was doing Becky. Not Becky.
Yeah, I think so. Was doing Molly for the first time.
She goes, What should I? Is there any music I should play? I'm like, yeah, Big Frida.

Speaker 2 You want to dance.

Speaker 2 She will make you.

Speaker 2 Man, it's been some times, but I don't know. I've done Molly before where I've just wanted to listen to like Bjork.

Speaker 2 Interesting.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's that no speed molly. Just like, yeah, that was the real version.

Speaker 2 I want the fake shit. Where the meth at?

Speaker 2 Where the shit that's going to meet? You really do. Yeah, you're like, I didn't want to chill out and have a vibe.
I want to turn up. This ain't the turn up, Molly, man.
Where the horny Molly at?

Speaker 2 When I was in that, when I was in the middle of the morning, you mean meth?

Speaker 2 Yeah, all right. Call whatever you want.

Speaker 2 When I was in class where I was passing my fucking Viking friend from

Speaker 2 Edinburgh, Edinburgh, and I was like, she was like, hey, do you have ecstasy? I was like, yeah, I was like, it was Molly. She goes, oh, no.

Speaker 2 She was like, I want ecstasy. Why? Not Mandy.
Why? She wanted that speed. Oh, okay.
Yeah. She was like, I'm looking for something to wake me up.
Yeah, I feel that, though.

Speaker 2 See, that's how I know I was fucked up with the whole Molly and shit

Speaker 2 anyway, because I thought that's what it was. Right.
So when I got Molly, that did that, Mandy, that's one of the first time that happened. I was like, I don't, this ain't it.
I don't like this.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm not even moving. Yeah, I'm like, this is.
I love you so much. It's making me want to take a nap.

Speaker 2 I'm just like laying in the bed. I can't move.
I can't just lay it in bed with my eyes closed, but I'm not going to sleep no time soon. And I'm just sitting here listening to massive attack.

Speaker 2 Like, what's going on?

Speaker 2 You ever play those festivals that are like not English speaking? No, I haven't. All rap and rock and like American.

Speaker 2 I played. There's some like South American.
Or like one you said, like Rotskilled. That's like fully, like almost all rock.
And I played that, which was dope. That's like crazy metal.

Speaker 2 I think it's Denmark.

Speaker 2 Rosskill. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What was that like? I played that. That was.
I mean, like you say, that's one of those ones.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't say I felt like a token type situation, but I was like, I don't belong. I don't belong here.

Speaker 2 Are there rap festivals? Yeah, Rolling Loud.

Speaker 2 What? Rolling Loud. Where's that?

Speaker 2 They have them all around, but mostly Miami, I think, is the main of it. But yeah, Rolling Loud.
But I feel like

Speaker 2 what we would consider to be rap festivals, be it like a lot of the radio stations, like they had every summer, like hot 97 summer jams. Right, right, right.
Those would be considered

Speaker 2 to be like more urban. They did Rock the Bells last year before.

Speaker 2 I think went to a couple of those, and it ruled. Rock the Bells, I think they had stopped doing them for a long time.
There's also a lot of old-timers.

Speaker 2 I played Rock the Bells before. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like the Bay one, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Rock the Bells is, I mean,

Speaker 2 as someone that's becoming a real old rapper,

Speaker 2 we need those festivals and shit for the elderly so we can still get up there and be able to kick our bars.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was pretty cool to see like MC Light or like people like that come out and do their once. And it's like, I'm reading it, like, you haven't played in 20 years.

Speaker 2 And they still be able to kick that shit. That's the thing that I love.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Like, yes.
Yeah. And that's just dope, too, because you got to think like how rap concerts are now and the way people tour.
Rap music wasn't like that back in the 80s and 90s.

Speaker 2 So there's a lot of these people that was fans of them that grew up and never got a chance to see them live and are just not getting a chance to see these older rappers because they didn't tour.

Speaker 2 Well, I saw Radio City and City Field, but more Radio City. You see them come out and they were just like, and then taking pictures of themselves.
Even like not Prime Minister Pete Nice.

Speaker 2 Who's the other one? MC Search. MC Search.
And he's like, I can't believe we're here. Yeah.
We never thought we'd get to this. It took LF Cool J to bring us here.

Speaker 2 So I think that is dope that they do that. And then they dot the, what was that? I think it's the 50th anniversary show.

Speaker 2 yeah yeah yeah so they did that it was that summer it was last year the year before and it was like they so they all like let's show what hip-hop is yeah so you went to that oh that was dope yeah city feel was a great one

Speaker 2 who's the one that what's the name always likes what says kane big daddy kane big daddy kane yeah yeah he was there so the wild wild west playing that it just brings kumo d kumo d

Speaker 2 God it brings me back to high school that's how I know I was when I was a kid remember with the whole Kumo D and LL cool JB and they was going back and forth I was on Kumo D's side Really? Yeah,

Speaker 2 that's how I know I was just.

Speaker 2 I mean, I was like the first big rap battle. And that was like mainstream rap.
That was like, I remember because it was like doing like contests, like who you think will win.

Speaker 2 And I remember everybody was going for LL Cool J and just me wanting to be different. I was going for Kumo D.
But obviously, I know that I'm a dog that fucking LL Cool J won. Obviously.

Speaker 2 I remember when he had a Greatest Hits album and the review was, I don't think you understand. Rappers don't have Greatest Hits album.
They're not a rap. Kool LL? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but even just to have a Greatest Hits is like. Yeah, even the album you just put out, it was it was good.
Wow. I was like, damn, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 2 I'm not saying that I was, wouldn't think LL Cool J could still make some cool shit, but just in this day and age of what rap is now, it's just, I just didn't expect that.

Speaker 2 But he's working with Q-Tip, so he was going to make it happen. I saw what's her name come out at City Field for that

Speaker 2 for 50th, Queen Latifah. Yeah, I was about to say that.
And she came out with this big, like, yeah, her thing.

Speaker 2 Same thing you're saying. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Same thing thing you're saying though she's like i'm going to like win votes here yeah i'm gonna like

Speaker 2 she had to be the queen because you one thing about a person like queen latifah you got so many kids and everybody else they don't even like who are you yes she was telling them that this was like one of the best female rappers she was telling them she was she was top tier like Queen Latifah definitely was like the best female rapper for like three four four years

Speaker 2 yeah and so she I think she was saying like you for you don't know who I am but you should know she was like the first real real like I feel like gangster even though she wasn't saying like gangster shit, but you believed what she was saying.

Speaker 2 She wasn't like, you know, pretty, cute, girly, hardy rapper. Yeah, it was like hard.
It was like just horror lyric shit. Yeah.
And she would get on songs with dudes and body them type shit.

Speaker 2 She also has one lyric. I don't know exactly what it was, but she goes, but can she be a crossover success? They said after the first of my 87 acting roles.
And it was like, Jesus.

Speaker 2 And then just to take it to the next level with the acting shit. Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 I think that she want to fucking prove to, I mean, you know, to the younger generation to be like i'm i'm not i'm as a fucking rapper first i'm not a fucking actress

Speaker 2 that makes me want to go to a festival ah you go to festivals every year man that's just

Speaker 2 but like yeah i gotta i'm actually going to i'm going to one next week

Speaker 2 outbreak where's that in london in manchester just two days

Speaker 2 I'm actually pretty excited because a lot of my friends are going to be out there, so it should be fun. Really? Yeah.
Jane's going to be out there.

Speaker 2 Frost's children, I think, are going to be out there. oh no it should be dope wait there was something i was gonna say about the album that i forgot oh

Speaker 2 who was it who's from the bay they called they she said it was brokey yeah creation with a dick creation with a dick what's the whole verse what's the whole verse i was trying to stop something that's the verse like that no no not the whole verse just what she rhyming creation with a dick with

Speaker 2 a dick

Speaker 2 i don't know damn it i gotta get that i gotta get that later i was trying to remember i was like i forgot what the first part of the rhyme was but i'm creation with a dick is so specific to who the fuck would know that.

Speaker 2 And I told all my friends in the bay, and they were like, what?

Speaker 2 Actually,

Speaker 2 last time I was in San Francisco, I played the show with Brokey. Oh, really? It was dope.
That was our first time getting to meet him, so that was dope. Wow.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we got to do this. How about this? One day I'm going to travel, but like when I'm, I'll be gone when this comes out.

Speaker 2 You do a festival somewhere. Yeah.
I'll come meet you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then like I'll be camping. No, I'll do it.
Until you get there.

Speaker 2 The day you're there, I'll come in, roll with you, get some air conditioning, get some free bottles of water. That's going to have to be next year.
Yeah, next year. Do you think I got nothing else?

Speaker 2 Like, I told you, my whole summer's off. Yeah, next year.
I've been picking up little spot dates here and there just to, you know, pay some bills. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But for the most part, I'm not going to be working to next year.

Speaker 2 So I'm sure I will get a lot of festivals next year after this album come out. Probably.

Speaker 2 Are you going to do like a, okay, we got to end it anyway, but like, are you going to, are you going to do like a play this all the way through or kind of stuff?

Speaker 2 Are you going to like mix in old stuff with new stuff? Or are you going to do like like play solidly this and then mix in when I play the tour.

Speaker 2 When I tour for this album, I'm gonna play a majority of this because I haven't created an album for live in my last two albums. Yeah, you're gonna dress up, you're gonna have like a dress up and like

Speaker 2 character changes. Yes, you know, because the character grows through it, yeah.
He goes from

Speaker 2 upstart, like an ODB kind of guy, to like a rich

Speaker 2 done and forgotten to like to a comeback. That's not the same outfit.
Yeah, you're right. Damn, now I got to do outfit changes.
You got to have ripaway layers. You're right, though.
But

Speaker 2 I put some thought into this, and I'm going to play a huge chunk of the album and then, you know, mix in the classics that they want to hear. Wow.
You get these people to play with you sometimes?

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, I'm, I mean, I'm not.

Speaker 2 I can't say right now because I'm not all, it's not already set in stone, but most of the people that are on the album are going to be opening next, and they're going to just switch out here and there.

Speaker 2 So once they're opening already, then they'll play on the show. They will play on my show.
And then I got songs with them, too, so I'll come out on their sets and do songs with them.

Speaker 2 We're trying to create more of being like

Speaker 2 Danny Brown show and some opening acts and give it more of a festival vibe. Like maybe have four or five acts from different walks of life and different genres and shit.
And then, you know.

Speaker 2 I love that.

Speaker 2 This whole idea of like no openers, come out.

Speaker 2 do your show and leave is like come on man and then maybe have like a dj on you know yeah it's fun to to watch some fucking low-level band it's a mini festival i want it to be i don't want people to i want people to come and dance let me have six hours here yeah not come and stare at the stage right and just stand there like party this is more of a party this not a rap show yeah so that's the vibe i'm going for i love it

Speaker 2 okay before we go

Speaker 2 okay so you worked with a lot of people on this

Speaker 2 What's going on with this collaboration that I want? Well, yeah, with Billy Strings. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 2 You went to every genre possible in this fucking album, Stardust, and you left off Bluegrass. I mean, it's a little, it's on there with a little bit with the Quadeca song.
But no, I definitely down.

Speaker 2 I'm down. Like I said, we talked back and forth.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're making progress. It was making progress at them.
But obviously, he's a busy. And then he went to Grammy and it's like, yeah, come on.
That's how it happens. Come on.

Speaker 2 That's usually how it happens.

Speaker 2 That's usually how it happens. But we were talking.
It was making it happen.

Speaker 2 I finally went to a show. How was it? Sick.
But another thing, too. Festival vibe.
I do know another thing, too. He had hit me up and was like, yo, are you

Speaker 2 lactose intolerant?

Speaker 2 But y'all trying to make me shit on myself?

Speaker 2 I can't do this.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 2 I'll be fucked up tomorrow.

Speaker 2 Speaking.

Speaker 2 But thank you.

Speaker 2 I love that. I know how little professional I am.

Speaker 2 Wait. Wait.
So you were saying what?

Speaker 2 No, last time I talked to him, he was like, are you in Michigan?

Speaker 2 Michigan boys. I know.
No, he seemed like he was there. Like, we wanted to link up.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, oh, no, I live in Texas. He's like, fuck.

Speaker 2 So I think we were making a lot of progress because he thought I was still in Michigan and we can just link up in any given moment. Oh, right.
And that wasn't the thing.

Speaker 2 Because I think he more so wants to get in the studio together than us emailing tracks back and forth. What's the process?

Speaker 2 Do you just go on a walk with somebody like that and then just like, let's talk a little, what we want to do?

Speaker 2 Or you just go sit in the studio and just like

Speaker 2 smoke weed and just like until something happens. That's usually what, like, that's how I deal with this album.
I would fly them out and have them out here for the weekend.

Speaker 2 And you just got to go to the bottom.

Speaker 2 And then the first day, we'll just build chemistry and talk, listen to music, you know, get to know each other, see where our limits are, what we can say to each other and how we can behave in front of each other.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And then the second day, get to work, and then the third day, fix what we worked.
It's so funny. We probably put on airs and then somebody's like, I did a bunch of malls.

Speaker 2 Somebody said, Molly, you're like, what?

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, whatever. And somebody's like, yeah, whatever.
You're like, you do it. I do it.
Yeah. All right.
Let's let Lucy. Let's go.

Speaker 2 Then you know. But for the most part, I worked with the he comes to here every tour.
Yeah, yeah, I know. So, yeah, next time he's here, I'll definitely try to get up with him.
They would be so cool.

Speaker 2 I definitely stay in touch. I hit him up, you know.
Really? Yeah. Okay.
Every time I see him do some cool shit, I'll be like, yo, that was dope, you know?

Speaker 2 So we definitely, I would say, we are acquaintance.

Speaker 2 First of all, I love that.

Speaker 2 At minimum, that's fucking great. So

Speaker 2 I will say it's... You both put on such good fucking shows.
I would say it's positive. It's more trading positive that that will happen.

Speaker 2 And I'm and and as me, a person that loves to touch and experiment with all types of forms, I'm excited to do it. So whenever he has the time and we can make it happen,

Speaker 2 I'm here.

Speaker 2 Have you listened to any of that stuff yeah it's so it's like i just see this overlap of like of hyphi music of of all the different cultures i just think it's the um level of songwriting

Speaker 2 that's what i think we we are i wouldn't say we just we're about in the same you know range of what we can do lyrically interesting that we can find something to connect on that will make it make sense yeah you know that's my whole thing is what makes sense in my world because you see a lot of times when people work together and they make songs and the shit don't work it's because it's no chemistry there for it to work

Speaker 2 making music with somebody is just like anything else you're both from michigan you're both sober now yeah that's what i'm saying so i think you both lived hard enough we can make something to like get sober for a reason i'm totally confident that we can make something work you know yeah and neither one of you judge drugs no

Speaker 2 dude

Speaker 2 anyway all right well that's great at least we're trending yeah no it's gonna happen it's just all about that's one thing about musicians is your schedule yeah you can't just throw out something shitty And a lot of us, and it's, it's, it's, it's like I say, it's fun to do shit, you know, even, but a lot of times

Speaker 2 just having that,

Speaker 2 you know, that, that being able to work in the same room.

Speaker 2 And I used to be a person that hated doing that. And that was just me being so self-conscious of being like, man, what if I get there and I don't do nothing good?

Speaker 2 And, you know, just having that pressure on myself. And, you know, but now I understand that it's not no pressure.
Yeah, I can be whack one day. I'm going to be able to come back and fix it.

Speaker 2 But it's all about having that camaraderie of being in a room and working on a song together. Yeah.
You know? And then I could be building something. It makes sense.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Sounds like that's the whole start of this album is that.

Speaker 2 Even what you told me that we're like, you're, you're like, when they were like,

Speaker 2 hey, we want to rap with you. What do you want? And then you're going, like, well, what do you want to see? Yeah, because you're this new core.
Because they're kids. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, everybody I was working with are damn near under 25 and under. I'm fucking 44 years old, so I'm like, I could be their dad type shit.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So for me, instead of having these kids come into a room and a lot of them, this is their first time ever being in a studio and being like, do this, do that, do that, trying to tell them what to do and be like, no, y'all been listening to my music.

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? What would you want to hear, Danny, do? How would you want? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 As you've been a fan and you've been listening to my music and you know what I can do, what would you like to hear?

Speaker 2 And you're the one making the music. So that gave them less pressure for them to have to do something good to where I'm being like, no, I trust you.

Speaker 2 I don't care what it's, you know what I'm saying? You tell me what to do.

Speaker 2 So, and that's what made the album, I think, a lot better because it made me open my mind up to understand what these kids are into instead of me being an old boomer and being like, y'all whack.

Speaker 2 Y'all don't know shit. Yeah.
You know? They do have a comedy like these kids today do this and this. But

Speaker 2 if you were the older comedian, you'd be like, this is sick. You guys are doing great new stuff.
It's amazing. Exactly.

Speaker 2 Danny, I love you, buddy. I'm so excited for you.
Love you too, man. I'm so excited for people to hear this one.
You got a vinyl on this one, right? Hell yeah. That's the whole point.

Speaker 2 That's what's going on right now. We're trying to be able to get the vinyls and the hard copies to be out before the digital versions.

Speaker 2 I don't know if that's going to happen, but I always fuck up with that. Yeah.
It'd be better if you did.

Speaker 2 It takes like because it'd be cool for someone that you know that pre-ordered a hard copy and they will get it two days before everybody have it online. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So that gives you more incentive to buy the vinyl. I got your old one on vinyl.
Thank you, man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I did not buy it. I stole it from there.

Speaker 2 But I go out of my way to steal it. That's right.
It wasn't an easy thing to do. I like that better.

Speaker 2 I appreciate that batter. They're motherfucking paying.
I know you got the money to buy it. It's harder to get a record under your shirt.

Speaker 2 The fact that you risked your freedom shows that you love me a lot more.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's records are surviving.

Speaker 2 We're out here.

Speaker 2 Buddy, I love you. Congratulations.
Stardust, everybody. Fucking check it out.
Yes, thank you, man. And the pod and everything.
Yeah, man. The Danny Brown show.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm really excited for you. This thing really made me like, I called so many people afterwards.
They were like, I got to reconsider what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 It was crazy. I've never been inspired by a goddamn rap album before.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I will agree with you. I ain't even going to.
You can feel it, right? Yeah. No, because it's not.
I would say this is my favorite. I can honestly say this is

Speaker 2 my favorite album that I made. And

Speaker 2 not necessarily have to do everything with the music, you know, but just because of where I'm at in life and everything that I went through to get to that. Like,

Speaker 2 if I didn't go go through all the bullshit that I went through, I wouldn't have never made an album like this, you know?

Speaker 2 Yeah, so now it's like I got my priorities. I care about shit that the old me would be like, you a bitch

Speaker 2 for even thinking about that shit. That's so funny because it's like, no, it's I'm committed to this fucking art form.
Yeah. So now I'm in this space now.

Speaker 2 So now, like I say, I'm because you want to play it off. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Because actually, because a lot of my albums, I feel like when they ended, a lot of people, you know, you felt sad or it's like I was gaslighting you to feel to feel bad about my drug addiction.

Speaker 2 But with this album,

Speaker 2 every time I listen to it and it's over with, I feel inspired. And that's, and I, I can't say I've ever done something like that.
So that's why that's what I got out of it.

Speaker 2 It's I was inspired afterwards. I feel emotional.
It's even talking about it now. I'm like, oh, so yeah, I mean, it's so great.

Speaker 2 I heard an interview with, I think Roger Waters might have been the other one for Pink Floyd. I don't know.
It doesn't matter. We'll say it was Roger Waters.

Speaker 2 And it was the 25th anniversary of Dark Side of the Moon. And they go, hey, when this came out,

Speaker 2 did you know like it was going to catch on like this? Like, you know, what it was going to be? And he goes like, yeah. Yeah.
I wrote Dark Side of the Moon. I could hear it.
Obviously, it's amazing.

Speaker 2 And I kind of have that same kind of confidence.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I'm not,

Speaker 2 I know what it's going to do for me and what I want it to do. You know? Like, I'm not about to sit here and put expectations on it or anything, but I feel like

Speaker 2 it was something I needed to get out in my life, and especially in my disography. Now, where it goes from here, I don't know, but this had to happen.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's like this guy. You told me the one guy you worked with, and he was like, I've only done concept albums.
Yeah, Cordeca. Cordeca.

Speaker 2 Which actually, his album's coming out real soon, and it's fucking amazing. Like,

Speaker 2 I'm, to me, I'm at the point where I'm, like, honored that these people want to work with me. You know, like, I'm not like, I'm on some humble shit.
I'm not like, oh, Danny Brown.

Speaker 2 You should want to work with me. It's like, man, I can't believe you guys respect my music enough to want to work with me because I look at y'all like fucking superstars.

Speaker 2 Well, you're so good at staying positive. He was like, you're asking about Kendrick and Drake.
You're like, what'd you think? They're like, oh, that halftime special was awesome.

Speaker 2 And I was like, oh, so you don't like Drake? I'm like, no, Drake rules. Yeah.
And you're like, oh, right. You just see the positive in everybody.

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm not saying I always was like that, but I know music is subjective in a sense where what. No, it's nothing's whack, really.
Like, you look at a motherfucker like Captain Beefheart.

Speaker 2 When he was putting putting that shit out, you can't tell me motherfuckers was like, this is horrible.

Speaker 2 And then now it's still, people still talk about the album to this day and go back, like, that's a fucking classic. And that's a concept album.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, all the, all the, uh, David Bowie, whatever, Ziggy Stardust,

Speaker 2 Tommy.

Speaker 2 They had some, some, like, concept albums that kind of went away. I also, I do have a theory of that, and I believe that music has dropped in the tier list of entertainment.
Say that again?

Speaker 2 Music has dropped in the tier list of entertainment. Meaning that people, music at that time were movies for people in some sense.

Speaker 2 Same way motherfuckers used to listen to the news, and then they got to watch the news, and you stopped listening to the news, but people still listen to the news somewhere. You get what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 That's that same kind of thing, I feel like. So now we have so much music.
So much. And the playlists and this and that, the art of...

Speaker 2 People getting together being like, don't listen to it till I come over. And y'all all sit together around in a room and y'all listen to the album for the first time and experience this like a movie.

Speaker 2 And I'm pretty sure there's still some kids that's doing that to this day. But that's not, that was the whole culture of it at that time.

Speaker 2 No interruption, put on a CD or a dip or a tape or before that vinyl, and you're like, We're playing this all the way through, right? And that's the only time we can hear it.

Speaker 2 It's not like, well, I heard the Spotify, but I'm gonna. And then we all, then maybe only one person had it, and then we all had to go over his house to listen to it.

Speaker 2 You know, we didn't all buy it that day. Rolling Stone was like the new albums, and it was only four or five.
It was a time where we were like, who got it? Every two weeks. Like, could you buy it?

Speaker 2 You who bought it? Or we go to your crib and listen. You know what I'm saying? And then if it's fired, then everybody else buy it.
But if it was always like the first one, who gonna be the task?

Speaker 2 You get the two tape there. Tape it to tape.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, from CD to tape.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 The quality is so bad. You ever do the tape where you're like, shh, be quiet.
It's not even like two and a half. I used to tape loop.
Tape what? Tape loop.

Speaker 2 That's when you, okay, I had a karaoke machine, and you know how you can,

Speaker 2 it'll be like the intro of the beat where there's no rapping. Mm-hmm.
Okay, so you dub that, and then you pause it right when it stops. And then you keep doing that until it loops over and over again.

Speaker 2 And then I would have the blank part, and then i can rap over that it might be off sometimes it might be skipped off actually nas on nas ill matic the song um one love that's a pause loop really pause loop that you know he's actually british he's fake a big there we go again

Speaker 2 all right daddy buddy i love you congratulations again thank you doc i want this vinyl i got you man right

Speaker 2 well that's the reason i had you in for one free vinyl

Speaker 2 no i got i got man that's one thing about me man i mean that's like even me, I'm moving right now. I just literally had so many fucking boxes of iinos.
Like, don't nobody want these bitches.

Speaker 2 I can't get them away. Really? Always got a garage full of iron.

Speaker 2 You can't suck them.

Speaker 2 I must really don't want one of these. They cost like 30 bucks each to make.

Speaker 2 I just give them as parting gifts. Anybody come over and leave with Danny Brown ghostographies?

Speaker 2 I think I bought a bunch here. Like, here, just take them.
I don't know what, put them somewhere. Yeah, use them for skeet shooting.
These are boxes that fucking collect. All right.

Speaker 2 I did find a box of old atrocity exhibition t-shirts. I know people want those, but what? I'm stashing them shits.
Atrocity t-shirts. I tried my album atrocity exhibition.

Speaker 2 I actually did the, when I did the merch for that, I did it with Braindead, the company. Okay.
So, um, I'm at the clothing brand. And so they are like really, people want those shirts.

Speaker 2 They're like super rare. Like, so, but I'm stashing.
Yeah. Sell those shows for like.
They got to be like a hundred a pop. Yeah.
I tell you what I did.

Speaker 2 Once I was in Indianapolis, I went to a record store, and

Speaker 2 then I went to the comedy section. I saw my comedy album, my very first from 2011, was in there, $4.

Speaker 2 And I was like, cool. I would never see them.
Oh, shit. I only made a thousand, I think, ever.
Oh, damn, that's fire, though. Yeah, I was like, what?

Speaker 2 And then I bought it and then I sold it at my show for 200 bucks. Fire.

Speaker 2 That's what you call inflation.

Speaker 2 That's the only one I have. That's a real hustler, man.
You're Arius, man.

Speaker 2 Damn, you Jewish. Yeah, I'm like.

Speaker 2 That's what Danny found out.

Speaker 2 Jews are different. You're really Jewish.

Speaker 2 All right. Thanks, buddy.
Thank you, man. All right.

Speaker 2 Okay, that's the episode. What are the odds? This is straight.
Probably slim. Probably very slim.

Speaker 2 Once again, go listen to Stardust right now, you guys. Shout out Warp Records for putting this out and for like legitimately.
When I talked to him, I said, when's it coming out?

Speaker 2 He goes, hey, they realized how fucking great this album was. And they were like,

Speaker 2 we need to regroup and think how to release it properly.

Speaker 2 What was I going to say?

Speaker 2 Oh, God, it's so fucking good. Again, it's like, and it just reaffirms any comic should listen to it where it's like, what are we doing this for? It ain't the money.

Speaker 2 It ain't the fucking sluts.

Speaker 2 It's like at its base, it's for you guys. So you can come have a good time.

Speaker 2 It's going to be a cool shot if those pigeons get in the way.

Speaker 2 Anyway, I'm going to run through those motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 They're all still there.

Speaker 2 X Danny Brown X on Instagram, the Danny Brown Show, which I've been on multiple times. And tour dates, you should go see him.
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Slow motor straight move.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 Bye, everybody. Next week, see ya.