Farm Chores with Matt Mathews

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Speaker 2 Hey, I'm Drake Jane.

Speaker 1 Happy Friday.

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Speaker 1 Hey fuckers, welcome back to another episode of Barely Fucking Famous. I have someone who's famous, famous today.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 We have Matt Matthews and we're out on the farm. Are you fucking ready for the show?

Speaker 2 I'm ready.

Speaker 2 My cheating's already. I'm shaking them.

Speaker 1 Wait, I, as soon as I walked up to your house, the chickens came out to greet me. Uh-huh.
No, that was everything. I didn't know they could hear because I didn't know they had ears.

Speaker 2 She's slug.

Speaker 1 But I have so many questions. He has eggs out on the counter.
They don't have to be refrigerated. What the fuck is going on in this farm? But this is like farm shit.

Speaker 2 This is farm shit.

Speaker 1 I love it. I told my kids I thought.
There's chicken shit in the barn. No, I love it.
I filmed every one of my kids' reactions to me going to Alabama. And my one son was like, what's Alabama?

Speaker 1 And I was like, it's a, it's a state. And he's like, but what state? And I was like, Alabama.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 do you homeschool them? No.

Speaker 1 Listen. So listen, I was telling your makeup artist Lauren, she came to my hotel this morning and I said, you you know, the first things that come to mind when I think of Alabama were,

Speaker 1 she goes, what, fucking your cousin? And I was like, yep. Or no, no.
She said, people with no teeth. And I said, no, fucking your cousin.
I was like, that's what people say, right?

Speaker 1 And then the second thing is Hoover, because remember that show on MTV called Two Days? Yeah. Love it.
Was obsessed. And then third, the first 48.

Speaker 2 Oh, baby, we're on every episode.

Speaker 1 Every episode.

Speaker 2 Baby,

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 2 that's actually a part of my comedy show. So, like, when I go perform and I tell people where I'm from,

Speaker 2 if they're like, we've never heard, I'm like, y'all watch verse 48 because we're on every episode.

Speaker 1 No, literally, literally. Literally.

Speaker 1 So, I went on Instagram and we're going to read these together because I she Lauren couldn't understand where I was getting from with like the incest thing, but that's what people talk about.

Speaker 1 But I have not seen that. It's pretty normal.
Yeah. Like, I love it here.
It's very country in some areas. And then you go down to the city.
Like, when we flew in, it was the city. It was cool.

Speaker 2 It's like she's Delaware, right?

Speaker 1 So I went on Instagram and I was like, Let's tell me what you first think of when you, and she also told me there's beaches here.

Speaker 2 We're not a third world country.

Speaker 1 I, well, I knew that, but I didn't think of them on the coast of,

Speaker 1 you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Wait, so someone, the first person said the Montgomery mollywop.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Was that?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, that's the mollywop.

Speaker 1 Forrest Gump.

Speaker 2 The movie was filmed in

Speaker 1 Alabama. Two people right off the bat said incest.

Speaker 2 So I wasn't wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sweet home.

Speaker 2 Alabama. Alabama.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Duggars and Sweet Tea Party on a boat.

Speaker 2 Uh-uh. I don't know nothing about that.

Speaker 1 Are the Duggars from here?

Speaker 2 I don't know nothing about them. You know, I don't fuck with kids.

Speaker 1 Can we talk about that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I also didn't want kids and then now I have seven of them, right? So what's your beef with children?

Speaker 2 I don't fuck. I don't fuck with kids.
So what is

Speaker 2 there? No.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 Lauren was Lauren. For those of you who don't know,

Speaker 2 I just got nauseated.

Speaker 1 No, for those of you who don't know, Lauren is his makeup artist and friend. And so she did my makeup this morning, right? And she was like, oh, you know, I'm going to head out.

Speaker 1 I have to go get my daughter or whatever. And I was like, oh, if Matt's okay with it, like, just bring your daughter.
It's fine. And she was like, no, he doesn't fuck with kids.

Speaker 1 And I said, wait a minute, why? Because I need to know what the beef is. So you just don't like them.

Speaker 2 I don't like them. Okay.

Speaker 2 they loud

Speaker 2 loud obnoxious

Speaker 2 like i can't stand when i get on a plane and you know

Speaker 2 i'm like can you shut your kid up we shut our kids up like baby i pay my money just like everybody else up in here to be on this flight okay like i don't want to i don't want to listen to your kid so no judgment to y'all if you want to pop a baby out of your snatch or seven more power to you but it just couldn't be me right okay that's fair my my oldest son does not want children.

Speaker 1 He does not like children. He doesn't like drool, poopy diapers, the smell, the crying.
He doesn't like any of it. And I don't care, like, that's fine.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But so when I said that to Kristen, because Kristen was like, oh, they're Matt's a, what did you call it? A dink? So she said that, and I was like, a dick? He's a dick. And she's like, no, a dink.

Speaker 1 Dual income, no kids.

Speaker 1 Did you get that? Did you see that fucking chicken? I didn't know they fly.

Speaker 2 You are slow. They ain't got no ears.

Speaker 1 They got wings. Like, wait, so do they like fly?

Speaker 2 I mean, like, short

Speaker 2 period.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay.
It's like Southwest, you know, just like short, short flight.

Speaker 1 There's something on fire down there, just so you know.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. I had a little, I was burning trash.
Oh, oh, okay. Last night.

Speaker 1 Them chickens. I don't know.
There's no meat chickens here, just so y'all.

Speaker 2 Don't y'all hear us filming the damn Mary Kate. Get your ass out of here.
Not Mary Kate. That's Mary Kate and Ashley right there.

Speaker 2 That is Mary Kate and Ashley.

Speaker 1 How did you choose which name fit each?

Speaker 2 Because they're twins.

Speaker 1 Wait, in real life?

Speaker 2 Yes, they're identical twins.

Speaker 1 So how do you know which one's which or you don't?

Speaker 2 Because that one has a blacker tail than the other one. See, look at them.
Twins.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, speaking of this, I'm going to, I got chickens, right?

Speaker 2 I got

Speaker 1 four

Speaker 2 bannam.

Speaker 1 Bannum chickens. I got two ducks, and then I have four silkies.
So my kids and I, I know you hate kids. It's fine.

Speaker 1 You and my oldest son would get along because he also, he's a kid, but he don't like kids, you know?

Speaker 1 So we started naming them, right? These are the names that we have so far.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, first, tell me your, your, all of your names.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Mary Kate.

Speaker 2 Can y'all hear them? Like, will y'all be able to hear them?

Speaker 2 So, God.

Speaker 2 Get out. They're hungry.
So they are hungry because I was waiting on your ass to get here to feed them. And you just laid out.
Are you lost?

Speaker 1 I was.

Speaker 2 I was lost. Then she says, I'm here.
I look outside. Ain't nobody here.
Like, where is this bitch at?

Speaker 2 Okay, so, you know, I had Fluffy.

Speaker 2 Fluffy was my heart. Like, she was, like, not, like, see, the rest of these chickens, I don't fucks with them.
Okay. Like, I love them.
Right.

Speaker 2 But, like, I could punt them across the yard and I'd be fine. You know? Like, I could take them to KFC tomorrow.
Like,

Speaker 2 the one that's all the way out there in the field, like, she knows better. Right.
Like, I've taught her better than that. I've raised her better than that.
And she's out there fucking around.

Speaker 2 And when she gets eight, I don't want to hear it. Okay.
But I hear it. But like Fluffy was my baby.

Speaker 2 Like she followed, she was a dog. She followed me around everywhere.
Like her personality was just like everything. She was like.
She was everything.

Speaker 2 And so I started doing videos with her. Right.
And that's what like skyrocketed farm chores, right? Which is why I had the Forever Fluffy line. Because when we lost Fluffy.

Speaker 2 That's why you named it that. That's why I named it Forever Fluffy.
And so the house that we're building, I told you about, we're actually,

Speaker 2 I'm having this picture painted of of her and it says the house that fluffy built stop because like it's because of her it's because of her that all this has happened you know so it's like it's because i got money so like i'm like she's the reason that i get to do all this you know um so i had fluffy Mary Kate Nashley.

Speaker 2 I got Blackie Chan.

Speaker 2 I got Left Eye.

Speaker 2 I got

Speaker 2 Brit Henny Spears. Brit Henney Spears.
I got I'm a 90s baby.

Speaker 1 Well, so my old

Speaker 1 alias through Teen Mom, we when we checked into hotels, what this, I'm talking about like the peak of teen mom, right?

Speaker 1 We had to check into hotels with aliases. Mine was Britney Spearhead.

Speaker 1 So like me and Brittany Spears would be. Y'all are, yeah.
We should probably take a picture together.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I have left eye. That is Coco right there.

Speaker 2 I got Ruru.

Speaker 1 Who names them? Do you? Me. You're just like, yeah, this is a vibe.

Speaker 2 I know exactly what they're. I know when, I know when it's time.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And do they also have babies? Or you just

Speaker 2 all of them, all my, I don't buy chickens from outside people because they bring diseases and shit. So like I hatch all my, all mine.

Speaker 1 And then are any of them meat chickens?

Speaker 2 No, I don't kill none of them because they're my babies. So I can't eat it.

Speaker 1 Do you sell them? Are they meat chickens?

Speaker 2 No. Okay.
No, you ain't eating my chickens. Right.
Now, like, I have had a rooster that I put in the crock pot before.

Speaker 1 Did you slaughter it yourself?

Speaker 2 My husband did, but we did eat him.

Speaker 1 What was that like?

Speaker 2 Like eating a chicken.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 But like.

Speaker 2 I mean, what do you think it was like? No, but it was only because he was so fucking mean. Like you would walk outside and he would attack you.
Oh, okay. And I was like, I'm done with you.

Speaker 2 Like, my rooster now does not bother you. He is not going to mess with you.
He's living his best life. Like, he's good.

Speaker 2 But if I don't fuck with mean animals. So if you want to play with me, I will put you in the crock pot.

Speaker 1 Well, so when I went to Iceland a couple years ago, they eat horses there, right?

Speaker 2 Oh, no, no, no, same.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I asked him, I'm like, How do you determine what horses get eaten? And he was like, Basically, the ones that are not

Speaker 1 good enough get eaten. So, it's the same concept with your like mean ones, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, the names that my kids came up with for the chickens and ducks, we got spaghetti and meatballs.

Speaker 2 Okay, how do we feel about those?

Speaker 1 Could do better, we could do better, yeah. Donald Trump,

Speaker 1 okay, uh, peanut butter, okay, armadillo, Armadillo.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 One of the silkies is named purple.

Speaker 2 Purple.

Speaker 1 I think they saw a picture of like a dyed silkie. And so it was like

Speaker 1 they put food coloring on it or something. Okay.
And so then they were like, oh, I want a silky named purple. I don't know.
Long story. And then Goofy.

Speaker 2 Goofy. Okay.

Speaker 1 How do we feel about those?

Speaker 1 We still have one, two, we have three more to name. And I was like, this is not on me because I can't tell them apart.

Speaker 2 So I'm going to let y'all do this. I have to name them based off their personalities usually.
Okay. Or like what they look like.
Okay. You know, like Coco.
She's all brown and got little spots.

Speaker 2 So she's Coco. Yeah.
Yeah, makes sense. Mary Kate and Ashley, they're twins.
Left eye only has one eye. So like, how did that happen? She got attacked by

Speaker 2 a raccoon. And it tried to like pull her little ass through the coop.
And it took out one of her eyes. Do they go to the vet?

Speaker 2 No, they just survived with the fittest. Yeah.
Okay. Okay.

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Speaker 1 What is the dynamic between you and Rob out here on this farm? Like, are you equally doing farm tours? Do you have like divide and conquer? What is that?

Speaker 2 You know, what's so funny to me?

Speaker 2 What's so funny to me is everybody thinks that because I am like the

Speaker 2 the like I don't know where he's going with this people think because because I'm the more like flamboyant that like I don't do none of this shit. That never crossed my mind.

Speaker 2 But like my husband is very like, you would never know he was gay. Okay.
Like he's very like, he's butch. Okay.
You know? Okay. Which is like, that's what I like.
You know, I can't fuck with a fairy.

Speaker 2 Like, there's this, I'm the only one here. So, but I'm very self-aware.
Okay.

Speaker 2 So everybody thinks because he's so macho and like masculine that he does all the shit. He's in there sleep.
Okay. I'm out here feeding feeding horses, feeding pigs, feeding chickens, clean.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm the one that does it all. Like, if it were not for me, we would not even probably have a farm.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 2 Like, the only thing that he does is the goats. I don't fuck with the goats.
I don't fuck with the goats. I don't like them.
They stink. I don't fuck with them.
They're, they're terrors. Right.

Speaker 2 But every, all these other animals are all mine.

Speaker 1 So there's not really the dynamic is he does the goats you do everything else. Yep.
Okay.

Speaker 2 That's the dynamic.

Speaker 1 My kids, I have to bribe them to take care of our chicks.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's mostly me.

Speaker 1 And when I'm not doing them,

Speaker 1 that doesn't sound good. Yeah, no.
When I'm not taking care of them.

Speaker 1 When I'm not taking care of them, Elijah is doing it.

Speaker 1 But also, I'm one of those people that's like really particular about things.

Speaker 1 So I want, I'm like, can you switch out the, you know, now that they have feathers, like, can you switch it out to like, hey, and like do all that? And he, if he doesn't do it right, so it's like.

Speaker 2 I mean, baby, you got seven kids. Yeah.
That's a lot of free labor.

Speaker 2 Bring them to my house for the weekend.

Speaker 1 They would well first of all you would not fuck with them

Speaker 2 if they was out here working.

Speaker 1 You're like as long as we can do child labor, that's fine.

Speaker 2 It's free labor. They ain't clocking in.

Speaker 1 So now you took off on TikTok from your boudoir photography.

Speaker 2 Started with boudoir. Yes.
Got it. So like the I posted a boudoir.
I didn't want TikTok. I've been very open about like not wanting.
TikTok at first. And everybody, it was during the pandemic.

Speaker 2 And everybody was like, Matt, you have got to get a TikTok. You're so funny.
You have to do a TikTok. And I was like, okay.

Speaker 2 So I posted my first TikTok of me posing a client. Okay.
And it was funny because, like, I've been a boudoir photographer for over a decade. Like,

Speaker 2 I have spoke and taught workshops. I've spoken at like the biggest photography conferences out there.
Like, I've, to toot my own horn, like, did it big in the boudoir industry. Right.

Speaker 2 You know, like, I've made, and I felt like I kind of like made it as far as I could make it. Okay.
Um, and so

Speaker 2 my work was really good. Like, I knew I was an excellent photographer.

Speaker 2 But what got people was my personality. And so I was posing a client and she was a beautiful plus-size girl.
And I was posing her. And I took, I like, I laid her on the floor.

Speaker 2 And what we called it was the titty crusher. And she was laying flat on her chest, like, you know, flat down.
And I like picked her butt up. I was like, girl, get your butt up.

Speaker 2 You know, and I like pulled her butt up. Yeah.
And I took a photo of her. Like, we did a butt shot.
And it was beautiful. And I posted that and it got 18 million views.

Speaker 2 And I grew from like a hundred a hundred followers to 500,000 followers in like two days it was insane from this one video one video and I was like what

Speaker 2 so I kept doing my boudoir videos then all of my videos started getting deleted because of the content that because of the content okay because of adult content right for for because they're in lingerie so I was like okay well I'll pivot so I started doing um thirst trap videos what's that where i would teach them how to take a sexy photo like i think i might have seen those i would like put my phone up and i'll be like okay so this is how you take a sexy photo like let's pop your leg up let's arch here put your phone on a video okay and then once you video it hold that pose for three seconds screenshot that hoe and send it out And that's what, that was like a tagline.

Speaker 1 We need to do that at some point to film that because I need practice.

Speaker 2 So you would, you would put your phone on video, you'd hold the pose, screenshot that hoe, and send it out. Like that was the thing.

Speaker 2 That

Speaker 1 off was taking off getting millions millions millions and i was like okay well then am i getting too far ahead no i need i need to know all the okay because i somebody in my facebook group like on my barely famous facebook group was like have matt matthews this was years ago and i was like i don't know who that is and so then circle back years i you had come up on my for you page and i was like i love him like i need to follow him so i wanted to know where did you

Speaker 1 did you pop off when i found you or had you popped off already?

Speaker 2 I had popped off before you and I connected.

Speaker 1 Right, which is what I figured out. I was like, and then I went on your stuff and I was like, oh my God, like he's been around for a minute.
I just hadn't seen him. I hadn't seen you yet.

Speaker 2 So now you're fucking everywhere. I really kind of like popped off during COVID.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 And then now my photography business in general had done, I've been booked with sessions and like teaching workshops for 10 years. Yeah.
So like I've never had problems there.

Speaker 2 Like I've always been booked and doing great. Then the internet blew up.
Right.

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 started doing the thirst traps. Okay.

Speaker 2 Then even some of those were getting deleted. And I'm like, I'm clothed, you know? Like, and so again, I pivoted.
Yep.

Speaker 2 And like, I am always a person that's like, okay, you always have to think of something new. Like, if you keep doing the same shit.

Speaker 1 forever and ever and ever it's going to eventually die off that's what i told kristen last night i said people know who kristen is um i said to her yesterday i said we need a plan like what is our game plan for this and this and then moving forward what is the plan moving forward?

Speaker 1 Because the shit's changing. And TikTok is a scary place to be because just as fast as you get popularity, they'll shut you down.

Speaker 2 Gone. Yeah.
So you've got to think ahead.

Speaker 1 So now you pivot for a third time.

Speaker 2 So I pivot for a third time and

Speaker 2 I pivoted doing my farm chores. And it was just.
One day I came out and I was feeding the animals and it was in the middle of summertime. Okay.

Speaker 2 But I've always like, I've always been a rogue person. So like in the morning times,

Speaker 2 I sleep naked. So like in the morning times, I generally wake up and I put on a robe.
Okay. Feed the dogs, make coffee, drink my coffee in my robe.
And I didn't want to put on clothes.

Speaker 2 So I would come outside and I would take care of my animals in my robe, like real shit, like not putting on real clothes. And my best friend, my husband, they would always be like.

Speaker 2 Like, you are a whole ass fool. Like, put on clothes.
To be fair,

Speaker 1 you cannot see the neighbors.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't have any neighbors.

Speaker 1 So who, it it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 Like I could be out here naked. Yeah.
Right. So it doesn't, yeah.
Okay. So I really would be out here.
Yeah. No underwear with a robe on and slippers feeding pigs and chickens and horses.

Speaker 2 And like I was doing all of that and

Speaker 2 one video, 12 million views.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I wonder if that's the one that I saw.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 it was just like, it was nuts to me because I'm like, this is just what I do. But again,

Speaker 2 so this is, I think this is, this is not, I don't want to sound like cocky by any means,

Speaker 2 but a lot of people on social media will get big or like they'll have a viral video and people will kind of know them from that video, right?

Speaker 2 But at the end of the day, if you don't have a personality to continue to carry that, it fizzles out.

Speaker 1 Or if it is that one-off and you create your whole identity off of a character.

Speaker 2 Off of a character.

Speaker 1 You can't maintain that.

Speaker 2 Right. Right.
It's hard to to maintain. So between boudoir, between thirst traps, between, you know, like farm chores, I've always been the same person.
Right. Right.

Speaker 2 So every single time they've popped off because of my personality. Right.

Speaker 1 And that doesn't change.

Speaker 2 And that never changes. So I've always just been very goofy and like very,

Speaker 2 if I think it, I say it, you know, very blunt. Like just, I've just always been who I am.
I always say, you can't be anybody but yourself. No, but you shouldn't.
Like you can't, you can't maintain it.

Speaker 2 Like, and at the end of the day, you're going to to be who you are. Like, that's it, period.
And I got a lot of hate on social media because people would say,

Speaker 2 I'm, I'm acting black or I try to talk black or I have, you know, like I black sent. Like one of the number one, number one

Speaker 2 Google searches one day was Matt Matthews Black Sent.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, Alabama, you have a southern accent. I'm like,

Speaker 2 I have a southern accent.

Speaker 2 But what people don't know about me also is I did grow up in Bessemer, Alabama, which is predominantly black. And it is

Speaker 2 one of the number one crime rated cities in the country. And I grew up in government housing with an alcoholic mom.
Like we were really poor.

Speaker 2 We didn't have like

Speaker 2 a lot of, you know, I had a lot of trauma and a lot of like, you know, like I almost got shot. You know what I mean? Like things like that.
When you were a kid?

Speaker 2 Yeah, because like I grew up in a really bad area.

Speaker 2 Like one time time we lived in an occono lodge because like we didn't have any money and my mom couldn't keep a job because of her addiction so like we lived in the projects and like we would move every time the rent was due literally because we couldn't stay there and she used my social security number to turn the power on like i didn't learn until i bought my first house in 2015 that

Speaker 2 My credit was ruined because my mom had been using my social security number to turn the power on in all the places we lived. So I grew up the only white kid in my neighborhood.

Speaker 2 I grew up the only white kid in my church. I grew up, you know, like

Speaker 2 that is what, that's how I grew up, you know? So, like, there was never of like a, and people were like, oh, well, your, your accent doesn't always sound like that.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, no, but if you go to an interview, you're going to have a different voice than when you're talking to your friend. Right.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Like, when you're talking to your friend and we're fucked,

Speaker 1 girl. It's like your customer service voice.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a customer service voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like, No, like, yeah, sometimes my voice is going to change. But I always say like my accent never changed.

Speaker 2 It was just like the how I'm saying, yeah, yeah. Um, but that was like a lot of flock that I got at first, and I was like, you know,

Speaker 2 what is she doing?

Speaker 1 How which one is that?

Speaker 2 Sister, sister.

Speaker 2 Oh, no. See, what's happening is she's up there trying to lay her egg on the hay, and sister wants to get up there and lay her egg there.
So they're fighting over the spot.

Speaker 1 Wait, how do you know they're trying to lay eggs?

Speaker 2 Because that's what she's doing on top of the hay.

Speaker 2 Can I look? Yeah.

Speaker 2 What is she doing up there? She's laying eggs. A bear? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Is that their legging? No.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 It's not.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh. There's probably multiple.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They fly, Cale. They don't fly all the way up there.
Yes, they do.

Speaker 2 Yes, they do. How you gonna tell me? that's like me telling you your kids don't do something when you know damn well they do well they be getting into trouble

Speaker 1 not that you guys have the same experience but when you're what you're describing to me is a lot like how

Speaker 1 what we know about eminem

Speaker 1 right like he grew up in detroit

Speaker 2 you know eight mile and that whole situation it was it's not so much cultural appropriation as it is where how you grew up right and so but people don't know that about me you know because that's not like I'm not on the internet talking about that all the time Okay, right because I don't want people to look at me and be like oh poor pitiful Matt like, you know, I wrote a book about it now my my, you know, I started my first comedy tour and like my show is about my life.

Speaker 2 So like people will come to my show and they expect farm chores.

Speaker 2 They come to my show and I'm taking them on a journey of like laughter and inspiration and sadness, you know, because I lost my biological mom in 2007 to addiction.

Speaker 2 So like my my dad got custody of me when I was nine years old and I moved out of the projects with my mom into a trailer park and so I grew up in the projects and then I moved to a trailer park and I lived there with my dad and then my dad remarried and to the woman that I called mom you know the woman that raised me from nine years old on and then she died in 2015 and so

Speaker 2 My life

Speaker 2 it's a lot of like a lot of pain a lot of trauma a lot of loss at a very early age

Speaker 2 And people don't know that, you know what I mean? So it's like they don't realize,

Speaker 2 yeah, like, yeah, I'm from the South. Yeah, like,

Speaker 2 yeah, I have an accent. You know what I mean? But like, I never let that stop me.
Like, people would get on my business page of my photography and they would leave reviews.

Speaker 2 And they never got photographed? No, yeah, never got photographed. And they would just leave reviews about my accent.
Oh, he's just a character of black women.

Speaker 2 He's just trying to make fun of black women. It's the A-A-V-E for me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like,

Speaker 2 you really just don't know anything about me. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 it was just like a,

Speaker 2 I never, I've been picked on my whole life. Yeah.
You know, like I was the white gay kid in the projects.

Speaker 1 What was that? Because did you grew up in Alabama then? So what was it like when you

Speaker 1 realized that you were gay or you came out? What was that like being a gay?

Speaker 1 kid or you know a gay man in alabama so i didn't come out until i was a teenager okay i was too scared But people made fun of you for being gay before you came out.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So they always knew I was gay.
You know, like people would always make fun of me. They'd call me, you know, faggot and, you know, queer or whatever.
And they would always make fun of me.

Speaker 2 However, I, my mom was like...

Speaker 1 Your bio mom?

Speaker 2 My bio mom. Okay.

Speaker 2 And I say bio mom and my mom. So like, okay.
But like my bio mom, she would physically fight people in Walmart. Like she would, she stayed in jail.
Like she would beat the shit out of you. Like me?

Speaker 2 No, not Not you. Like, she beat up my teacher in a parent-teacher conference in the fourth grade.
Like, beat the shit out of her.

Speaker 1 So, you've been some shit. You've seen some shit.

Speaker 2 So, yeah. Okay.
Yeah. So, like,

Speaker 2 I always like, I make jokes about that. So, I'm like, I've never been like a frail kid.
Right. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 So, like, when people would make fun of me or they would talk bad about me or like they would try to hurt my feelings in school, I was always quick to be, you know, I was quick back with it.

Speaker 2 And I would fight you. Like, I would hit you.
Like, you went.

Speaker 1 But at the time, you didn't have a choice. You were trying to defend yourself and hold your own.

Speaker 2 Yeah, absolutely. Like we, I remember one night we, um, we were laying and we had one bedroom in our apartment.

Speaker 2 The, the two of us were laying, and I talk about this in my book because this is such a core memory to me. We were laying in bed and

Speaker 2 our apartment where we lived, um,

Speaker 2 it kind of had like this, uh, like our, our bedroom window was, was by the staircase. Okay.
And so

Speaker 2 we were laying in bed and I just hear gunshots. And I hear this woman yell like, don't do that.
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 Please, please, please, don't do that.

Speaker 2 And then just gunshots. My mom opens the window and she's like, I got a baby trying to sleep in here.
Can y'all shut the fuck up?

Speaker 1 With the gunshots?

Speaker 2 With the gunshots. I'm like, oh, this is it.
Like, I literally thought to myself, this is the night that we die. Like, they're going to shoot us.
You know, because like she did not care.

Speaker 1 But at the time, were you thinking that? Or like in retrospect, you were thinking that?

Speaker 2 No, at the time, I thought this is the night we're going to die. Like, I knew that night was it.

Speaker 1 Nobody knows this about you.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 Literally nobody. So now when people react to that, what is your response? You're like, well, see, like, I'm a real person.
I'm not a caricature. I'm not.
Yeah. You know, I'm, I'm,

Speaker 1 um, I don't think that Kristen and I just watched something on Netflix and it was, what was it called? Baby Reindeer.

Speaker 1 Kristen and I just watched Baby Reindeer about this comedian who tells his life story, kind of what you're doing right now, but he tells it in story format. So it's like seven episodes long.

Speaker 1 And the shit that he went through, nobody could have ever imagined. And I feel like people do relate to pain a lot more often than they relate to like the happiness.

Speaker 1 So like what when people react to that, like what do you even

Speaker 2 so I think that's why my comedy career exploded the way that it did. And it's the reason that I've sold shows because

Speaker 2 I tell my story every night on stage

Speaker 2 and I never get tired of telling that story because every night I tell that story and I look out in the audience and I see people crying and I see people like

Speaker 2 I was in that I was there and like seeing you where you are made me realize that I can get there too right you know and so like for me

Speaker 2 I don't regret a single bit of how I grew up. I don't regret any of the moments that I had.
I don't regret like any of the trauma that I went through because it's made me who I am today. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 And I would not be successful without those, those traumatic things that happened to me.

Speaker 1 It humanizes you. I think when I think of comedians that I, you know,

Speaker 1 Kevin Hart, for example, I didn't really know who he was until he started telling his story. Right.
And so I feel like people relate to that and it kind of creates like a

Speaker 1 bigger, more balanced audience for you.

Speaker 2 And I love that for you. A lot of comedians, they get on stage and they just tell jokes.
Yeah, but

Speaker 2 you don't know them. Yeah.
It's like they set up a joke they set up a punchline. When I started doing comedy, which was taking it back, which was my next pivot, you know, I pivoted to farm chores.

Speaker 2 Right. Blew up.

Speaker 2 Wait, take me back. I know.
We're so like. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you take off on Instagram, you pivot for a third time, or not Instagram, sorry, you take off on TikTok, you pivot for a third time, you start farm chores. Where does stand up come in to play?

Speaker 2 So everybody was commenting, you need to be a comedian. You need to be a comedian.
You need to be a comedian. I never watched comedy.
I never wanted to be a comedian.

Speaker 2 It is never a thought that crossed my mind. I always wanted to be a singer.
That's what I wanted to do. I was always sing your ass off.

Speaker 1 So I could also see that happening.

Speaker 2 But I never pursued it because I never thought I was good enough. And so singing was more vulnerable.
Okay. And it was like, I'm not good enough.
If they tell me that I suck, then that kind of hurts.

Speaker 2 So I never put myself out there that way. Okay.
As

Speaker 2 comedy, I was just being who I was.

Speaker 1 But I feel like stand up is different than your, like, when you're doing the farm tour stuff and you're being funny, that's your personality.

Speaker 2 It's so different. It's different.
It is.

Speaker 1 So the same thing could happen as being a singer. So

Speaker 2 both. So you're right.
Like it was, it is the same thing. It's still vulnerable.
But at the same time, being on stage as a comedian is the most natural thing I've ever done. Okay.

Speaker 2 Like when I stepped on stage, I just started talking. Okay.
Okay. And I was like, I'm making these people laugh and I'm not even trying.
No, literally. You know, because it was just me.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was just who I was. So when I got on stage, I was like, I'm getting paid to just talk.
You know, like, I'm getting paid to run my mouth.

Speaker 2 And so it really worked. And it made me just feel good to see people laugh.
Yeah. Like to see, to know, know in my heart and my mind and my soul that these people, they're out there struggling.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 They're out there struggling every day. They're going through shit that is hard.
They are like, they are living tough lives.

Speaker 2 And for two hours, I get to bring them into a theater and I get to let them forget about all of the bullshit and all the things that are going on in their world.

Speaker 2 And I get to make them laugh their ass off. Yeah.
And that made me feel like just some type of way. So like I got off stage that first time and I was like, I was meant to do that.

Speaker 1 Wait, what were the nerves like going up onto the stage?

Speaker 2 Oh, I almost shit on myself. I was so scared because I was like, what if they don't laugh? Like, what if they don't laugh? What if they don't think I'm funny? Like, what if they boo me? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, what do I do?

Speaker 1 You know, were you an opening act first?

Speaker 1 Which one is that?

Speaker 1 I think that's Mary Kate.

Speaker 2 Mary Pay and Brihanni are right here.

Speaker 1 Are they friends in real life?

Speaker 2 And they're also friends. And they're friends on the farm.

Speaker 1 Because I would have shit myself. You till you did open or you didn't open.

Speaker 2 So that's the thing. A lot of big comics do not like me.

Speaker 1 They don't like you? Why?

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 a lot of comics to get to where they are in my career that

Speaker 2 I told you you wanted to do this. You wanted to do the podcast and the podcast.
I love it.

Speaker 2 A lot of comics have, and respectively, like this is not me shitting on them by any means, but it took them 10, 12, 15 years to sell the amount of tickets that I sell. Okay.

Speaker 2 And they worked really hard and they grinded. Right.
But, you know, the world is different now. You know, the world, the world revolves on social media.

Speaker 1 Right. And it's free.
It's free marketing.

Speaker 2 It's free marketing. So like, yeah, times are different.
It's not that I'm better than them or not that I'm funnier than them. I just knew how to market myself better.
Right.

Speaker 2 Or differently. And I built a following of people that genuinely just like, they just loved me.
And they like, they like, those people that followed me, they

Speaker 2 like the people that follow me.

Speaker 2 are ride or die for me. Yes.
Like I have the most incredible audience. Like they love me and they ride for you no matter what you do.
Yeah. Whatever I do, they support me.

Speaker 2 And I don't know what the fuck I did to deserve it, but I'm just so grateful for them.

Speaker 1 But so the first thing that comes to mind is I watched an interview,

Speaker 1 Matt Reif, right?

Speaker 1 And he talks about in this interview that I watched about his start to comedy and things like that and where he was like sleeping on people's couches and doing this and like didn't know if he was going to make it in the comedy world, right?

Speaker 1 Very different, but TikTok, Instagram, all of these things were not a thing for him. And I'm not saying it for him specifically, but other comedians too.
Like, they didn't have that.

Speaker 1 So you did it differently. It didn't.
That is the biggest fucking B I've ever had.

Speaker 2 That's a B.

Speaker 2 Do y'all want me to run them out of here? Because they're getting on my fucking nerves.

Speaker 2 Whatever you want.

Speaker 2 What were they fighting about? They were just fucking talking. Oh.
All they want to do is talk.

Speaker 1 Wait, do you have any silkies?

Speaker 1 Is there a reason? Those are bougie chickens. They were so cute.

Speaker 2 I'm not bougie, though. A little.

Speaker 2 I mean, a little.

Speaker 1 This is the nicest farm I've ever been to.

Speaker 2 And this is not. Wait till you come to the new farm.

Speaker 1 Can we do a part two at the new farm?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 But what I was saying about it doesn't,

Speaker 1 not necessarily Matt Rife specifically, but other comedians, they kind of are doing that whole thing. They didn't have,

Speaker 1 it's not your fault that you built this following somewhere else and were able to take that and pick it up and move it to,

Speaker 2 you know, stand-up.

Speaker 1 So that was the thing was like I already built a following before stand-up but to to not like someone because they had a different start is not

Speaker 1 I mean I'm trying to think of a situation like

Speaker 1 that's not fair right like so you're saying

Speaker 1 not you the people who watch who are fans of music right someone like Taylor Swift had a different start than Kelly fucking Clarkson right why are we gonna not like her because she had a different start and ended up in the same space that doesn't that doesn't make sense to me and I don't understand how people get to that conclusion, like how they get to from point A to point B.

Speaker 2 I think at the end of the day, it's just jealousy. It has to be.
Because,

Speaker 2 like, I didn't pay my dues, is what they think. You know, because like, well, in reality, they just don't know that, like, I paid my dues filming content.

Speaker 2 I paid my dues putting myself out there every day on the internet. I paid myself

Speaker 2 right. I built that following before I became successful as a comic.

Speaker 1 But it's just not computing for me. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It's just like not, I can't.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's like.

Speaker 2 People are just assholes.

Speaker 1 I also don't love Matt Reif anymore and I haven't followed him on everything. Oh, you're my favorite comic.

Speaker 1 Anyway, moving on.

Speaker 2 Let me see what you say.

Speaker 1 I'm going to Matt's show this weekend. Yes.

Speaker 2 In Reading. I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 I'm super excited. I got into comedy probably.

Speaker 2 10 years ago. Okay.

Speaker 1 Around 10 years ago. Growing up, I didn't understand stand-up.
I didn't understand it. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I feel like you have to hit like a moment in your life where you're like, oh, now I get the joke. So I started loving that.
I've been to a couple of like stand-ups.

Speaker 1 I saw Matt Reif before he popped off at the Laugh Factory in LA.

Speaker 1 And I really, that was, oh, God, like seven, eight years ago. And I just love comedy.
I love stand-up shows. I went to one in Pennsylvania, actually not far from Reading.

Speaker 1 So I'm really excited to go to yours.

Speaker 2 I'm excited. Like, I'm excited because I tell people all the time, like, I'm filming my special.
Yeah. My first special.

Speaker 2 We're filming this July. And

Speaker 2 I tell people all the time, like

Speaker 2 come into my show with an open mind. Yeah.
Like, don't come into my show expecting what you see from other comics. Okay.

Speaker 2 Because I'm not a traditional stand-up comic. Okay.
I don't tell jokes. Right.
I don't set up a punchline. I am a comedic storyteller.
Timeout.

Speaker 1 So you don't have like a pre-written script that you're going off of?

Speaker 2 I do. So like I have my show which is like my show is

Speaker 2 the same okay however i do a lot of crowd work okay so that's different every show right um but my show is my story right you know so that is the same okay but

Speaker 2 the jokes are

Speaker 2 the way I'm telling the stories. They're hilarious stories because of how I'm telling them and the and like the facial expressions that I'm putting into it and like the acting that I put into it.

Speaker 2 Like it's not,

Speaker 2 well, John and Harry walked into a bar,

Speaker 2 and you know what I mean? Like, it's very much

Speaker 2 comedic storytelling. Okay, like you're like, damn, that's just funny.
You know what I mean? Like, and there are like moments in my show that are real and raw and like vulnerable.

Speaker 2 And then you're like, oh my God, he's been through so much because I really put that out there in that show. Right.
Like, I wanted my show

Speaker 2 to be my next pivot. Okay.

Speaker 2 So my show was

Speaker 2 Matt Matthews, not farm chores. You know, so did I give it? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So like that was

Speaker 2 people expected farm chores. You know, when they come to my show, they're expecting farm chores.
But I'm like, how do I really get on stage for 90 minutes and talk about farm animals?

Speaker 1 Well, no, that's a really good point too, because at some point you stop growing because there's, if you're only taking farm tours and you're bringing farm tours from TikTok directly, from real life to TikTok to now comedy, Yeah.

Speaker 1 Then where's the growth?

Speaker 2 What's the next step? It becomes stagnant. So you have to continue to pivot, you know? And so now it's like, what is,

Speaker 2 you know, what is, what is the next thing? So people would come to my show and I would see them leave reviews on Ticketmaster or whatever. And they're like, I just...

Speaker 2 learned so much about this man that I never knew before.

Speaker 2 Like I have so much more respect for him now, even more than I did before, because like for him to be able to take the pain and the trauma and all that and make it funny and make us laugh and inspire us that we can do the same thing like that's what the show is about

Speaker 1 have you ever experienced like prior to this or even in this whole thing when you meet people and you like say things that you

Speaker 1 because you and I had very traumatic childhoods and just going off of what you said about your mom Similar, right?

Speaker 1 But I'll say things that seem so normal to my life and And people are like, what did you just say? And I think it's normal. Have you done that too?

Speaker 1 Who is that?

Speaker 1 It doesn't bother me at all.

Speaker 2 Get out.

Speaker 2 Go.

Speaker 2 Go. Go.

Speaker 2 Get your motherfucking ass out.

Speaker 1 Is that Ashley?

Speaker 2 Or Mary Kate? That's gold. Gold.
Oh.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The fact that he could tell them apart is so funny to me.

Speaker 1 Get it out.

Speaker 2 Oh, stupid bitch.

Speaker 2 I could not.

Speaker 1 Wait, I saw someone say that you're so mean to your animals and you don't even love them.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you're like, this is my love language.

Speaker 2 I love them. Yeah, yeah.
Everybody's like,

Speaker 2 maybe your animals are so bad because you're so mean to them. Where? No.
They eat literally the best food they have my chickens are free range first of all his dogs don't eat kibble they eat

Speaker 2 they eat salads and they eat raw meat i love that no i vegetables the raw meat thing is so good for them so 10 out of 10 recommend well i mean my dogs are seniors you know like my dog sadie is 13 and she still runs and plays like they go get acupuncture and chiropractic adjustments every five weeks they're yeah okay kristen junior

Speaker 2 kristen has six dogs i have a holistic we have a holistic vet. So like, I love that.
We're very holistic.

Speaker 1 Does she come here or he or she come here?

Speaker 2 No, we go to her office. Okay, got it.
Yeah, got it. Got it.

Speaker 1 So like when you were growing up and all these things, these crazy things were happening to you, it was normal to you then.

Speaker 1 But in retrospect, now when you're talking about it as an adult and you bring it into your content, your comedy, whatever. Do you say things and people are like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 Like, that's not normal. Or like, why are you laughing about that?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Do you get that reaction? All the time.
And what do you do? You're like, well, I'm like, I'm like,

Speaker 2 that was normal to me. You know, like, and that's the thing too, is like, it is.

Speaker 2 So this past weekend, for example, I played, I had two sold-out shows in Federal Way, Washington, which is basically

Speaker 1 not D.C.

Speaker 2 Yes, the state. So it's, it's the suburb of Seattle.
Okay. Um, so I did two shows there.
And when I got to Seattle, I was just so blown away by the amount of drug use because it's decriminalized.

Speaker 2 So like people are just like out on the sidewalks, just like, you know, like just laid over and they don't get in trouble they have safe places to use drugs they don't like there's there's literally safe places for them to go get needles and shoot up

Speaker 2 and it's just so crazy to me and they have defunded the police so like the police won't even come like if you get in trouble if you're getting a wreck like anything like that they ain't coming they're like so sorry and a lot of the restaurants the bars like the the clothing stores all of the stores have closed they've put plywood up because you can steal.

Speaker 2 Like you can go in and steal and walk out and you don't get in trouble. Because the police aren't coming.
Because they're not coming. And so the stores have ended up closing down.

Speaker 2 So we did this show in Federal Way and I was just like, just, I was like, wow, this is really sad. You know, like, it's just really sad to see these people like this because I grew up like that.

Speaker 2 That's what I saw. But I made a joke about it because you have to make a joke about it.

Speaker 2 Because if you stay in sadness, then like you never, you never get out of that. So I made a joke and I called it Fentanah Way.

Speaker 2 And I said, I said, man, I love being here in Fentanyl Way, Washington. What did they say? Oh, they loved it.
They died. And I called it the Fentanyl Fold.
You know, like how people are folded over.

Speaker 2 I was like, y'all seen the Fentanyl Fold. I was like, there was this girl outside doing her damn eyebrows and her face was touching the ground.
You know, I'm like, girl, stand up.

Speaker 2 How are you going to see your eyebrows? And, but we had a mom and her daughter leave the show crying and were calling me a jackass. And like,

Speaker 2 because her son, she emailed us afterwards. So I know.
You know the story. Yeah.
So she emailed me and told me that her son passed away from fentanyl overdose and

Speaker 2 how, like, how awful it was of me to make jokes about it and you know she wasn't a fan anymore and like for her to have to listen to that after her son died from it it just like really you just you know bothered her and she didn't like me anymore basically and i responded and i said i'm sorry that your son passed away like that is a pain that i will never be able to take away or make feel better for you because i've had more losses in my life so i know like the loss of somebody that you love i'm like i cannot imagine the loss of losing a child you know did you tell in this show that your mom passed away from an addiction?

Speaker 2 Yeah, but they left before that. So they didn't hear all that.
And so I said,

Speaker 2 you know, I can never,

Speaker 2 never like replace your son. And I'm so sorry that you had to go through that.
I can't imagine how awful that was.

Speaker 2 However, I will not apologize for the jokes that I made because had you chose to stay for my show, you would have seen that I lost not only my biological mom, but my adopted mom to addiction.

Speaker 1 Oh, she also passed away from addiction.

Speaker 2 And it was an addiction we didn't even know about. We had no idea.
No clue.

Speaker 2 We never knew. Until she passed away.
Until she died. Never knew.
Nobody ever knew. We were all blindsided.

Speaker 2 And so I told her, I was like,

Speaker 2 if you would have stayed for my show, you would have saw

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 what I was doing was making a joke. to make people laugh and to lighten a situation that is really, really dark.

Speaker 2 You know, like you have to be able to laugh at dark situations and dark times so that you don't stay in that sadness.

Speaker 1 Well, it's also interesting to me, too, that people, the audience, right? Like the court of public opinion picks and chooses how, who they're going to crucify for the same type of thing, right? So

Speaker 1 Kevin Hart makes jokes about his dad being, I think, crack addict or something, Coke, something like that.

Speaker 2 That's okay, but you can't do it.

Speaker 2 Or

Speaker 1 Shane Gillis, you know, makes jokes about Down syndrome, but if I were to do it, I'd get canceled. So it's really interesting to me that they'll pick and choose who they're going to support.

Speaker 1 And it's okay if certain people do it, but you can't. And so, and I think you get it tenfold because you started on social media.

Speaker 1 So where you come, if you come directly into comedy from whatever you were doing and there's no backstory in terms of like how you got there, it's okay for them to do it, but not you. Right.

Speaker 1 And I hate that for you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I really hate that for you. But at the same time, it's like, I know who I am.
I know what I stand for. I know that I'm just, I know that I'm a good person.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And it's like, people on social media, like, I don't care. You're not going to hurt my feelings.
There's nothing that you can say that's going to make me feel bad about myself.

Speaker 2 There's nothing that you can say that's going to make me realize that like it's going to hurt my feelings. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
You know, I'm like, you can suck my ass. I don't care.

Speaker 2 So just suck my ass.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's fine.

Speaker 1 So what is, what is Rob's role in all of this? Because I still haven't met him.

Speaker 2 And I saw I was going to meet him and I was so excited. Okay, so we have, you know, my brand, the Matt Matthews brand.
So I have, I have a whole natural candle line.

Speaker 1 Do people know, you're married, right?

Speaker 1 Do people know you're married? Yeah. And so, but I never see him.

Speaker 2 He doesn't like being on the camera.

Speaker 1 So how does the relationship and all of that? Because social media will tear people the fuck up. There's relationships.

Speaker 2 Which is why I try not to share him. I try to respect that.
Same. He doesn't like it.
So like there's sometimes I'll show him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 But because he doesn't like it, i try to respect that well also just for to protect your relationship to your marriage because i also elijah is a man of very few words yes so i'll he'll agree to do my husband not me

Speaker 1 he'll agree to do certain things or like i'll catch him off guard and he'll be like yeah you can post that like it's fine but he's not part of like my bigger presence because i want to protect it same

Speaker 2 and because

Speaker 2 you choose to protect it and because you choose not to put it out there they want it even more and they or it's the it's the again one of the number one things searched about me on the internet is Matt Matthews' husband.

Speaker 1 Or they'll be like, they are not really in love. They don't really love each other.
This relationship isn't real. He doesn't really like her.
He doesn't really like him. Yeah.

Speaker 2 How was Kelly Clarkson?

Speaker 1 Um, we love her. Do we not love her? Are you gonna say? Or Kelly?

Speaker 2 Hold it. Okay.
So the time I had with Kelly, she was great.

Speaker 2 Very warm. Like that was on air? Fun on air.

Speaker 2 We didn't meet each other off camera okay like at all i was kind of shocked by that because like i figure i mean we're both from the south so like i was expecting like

Speaker 2 i was expecting her to like come back stage oh thank you so much for being here like i was expecting that which didn't happen she did hospitality like that southern yeah yeah yeah but she did have me a goodie bag in my room with like a mug a tumbler and like some chips and like a note from her she wrote me a note nice um

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 but I mean, that was it. Yeah.
Um, and then like the only time that we talked or communicated was on camera.

Speaker 2 So, but at the same time, I also know that like she has a lot of guests on, and it would probably be a lot to like go to every single person's room and like thank them for coming and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 So, like, I mean, I kind of get it. It just wasn't what I really was expecting, but that's not necessarily, necessarily a bad thing.
It just may be like they're on a time crunch.

Speaker 2 And like, we have, she had filmed, like, they filmed two episodes in a day, I think.

Speaker 1 I don't know, though because i recently had an experience i was telling you before we started rolling right like i had the um

Speaker 1 i had an interview with michael evans bailing who was on all american loved him i also felt like the conversation went as well as it did because i knew his work off the podcast and i feel like it takes away the relatability and it takes away the genuine conversation when you don't have those interactions in person before like when i came up to your house like it felt so genuine and real And I feel like we'll be friends.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Oh, we're stuck.

Speaker 2 We're stuck.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be sending pictures of my selkies and be like, what should we name this one? Yes.

Speaker 2 Like we're face topics. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like I just, I love that more, I feel. And so it does, it's a little disappointing.

Speaker 1 Or like if you go on another talk show and they don't really know who you are, it's just like another name on their show.

Speaker 2 I don't love that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I've experienced that on this side of.

Speaker 1 the industry and also on the other side of the industry where I am the talent and then I go on a show, right?

Speaker 1 So like good morning america i'm concerned that that might be the same situation for you i mean

Speaker 2 probably like it is what it is

Speaker 2 like you know you have got to be kidding me i love it like this is back well i love her she's back well

Speaker 2 um

Speaker 2 i feel like it's it at the end of the day like it is just part of the industry you know like these people have so many talent coming through that they just don't really give a

Speaker 2 but you have to give a

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 2 i mean my ultimate like i told my publicist the other day i was like i don't care if i never get on another talk show

Speaker 2 i want to sit down with drew barrymore yes i love her so much

Speaker 2 I have, do you remember when she was on the movie Ever After? Yes. In the 90s? Yes.
There's a scene where she walks down the aisle before at the ball and she wasn't supposed to be there.

Speaker 2 And she walks down the aisle. And before she starts to walk down the aisle, she says, breathe.
Just breathe.

Speaker 2 And I have just breathe tattooed on my rib cage because of that yeah and that's always been my like my no matter what's happening in life like you cannot change the situation but you just breathe and keep moving yeah and so like that's always been like my my like thing and so i told my publicist i was like i want on drew berry more show you'll get it like no you're no you don't want you are going i'm going on the show right period there because i feel like she's just the most genuine person like she's the sweetest like

Speaker 2 i you know and people make fun of her they're like why is she always always touching people? Like, holding. I'm like,

Speaker 2 if she doesn't hold my hand while we're sitting there, I'm flipping over the couch.

Speaker 1 So one where she's like this close to their face. Yes.
But see, that is like the personal

Speaker 1 I want to be. Like, we don't have that connection.

Speaker 2 If you don't hold my hand, I'm flipping over the couch.

Speaker 2 Drew Barrymore, if you don't hold both hands and we don't have that connection, that spark, the couch will be flipped over. You're like, I'm no longer a stan.
stan no so for uh from your

Speaker 1 where you're at in your career

Speaker 1 i love that i didn't know chickens could climb

Speaker 2 i had no fucking clue your audience is going to be so annoyed just hearing them though the whole time they're going to be like damn can they shut the up what is the next step in your goal like what are your the things that you want to accomplish still so obviously you're on your second tour they're sold out everywhere well not yet i'm still on my first tour oh i thought this was the second one my bad still on my first one we filmed my special in july i just signed a very large deal for my second tour.

Speaker 2 It hasn't been announced yet, so obviously I can't say, but you already know because I told you. I signed a very large deal for a second tour

Speaker 2 with a very large company. And so I'm going to be doing a second tour.
I'm probably going to do some music in there.

Speaker 2 Maybe eventually I would, maybe, I don't, I'm not even trying to be like Taylor Swift, but like maybe

Speaker 2 an album one day, you know?

Speaker 1 That would be so fucking iconic.

Speaker 2 I'm working on a second book. Period.
Um, get on book talk.

Speaker 1 I need you to get on book talk.

Speaker 2 I'm going.

Speaker 1 I also need you to get on Goodreads. Goodreads.
Go follow me on Goodreads. You have to, because,

Speaker 1 especially now, with like book talkers that are creating content around books and they're telling people to go to Goodreads, it's just another place for people to get their eyes specifically on your book.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so we're doing that.

Speaker 2 Um, are you gonna take your own cover?

Speaker 2 No, since you're a photographer, no, no, no,

Speaker 2 nope. Do men do boudoir? Yeah, they They do.
Okay.

Speaker 2 My ultimate goal, I think, that would just be so fun

Speaker 2 is

Speaker 2 a sitcom about my life.

Speaker 1 I could see you acting.

Speaker 2 Like 100%.

Speaker 2 A sitcom, like a farm chore sitcom. Would you play yourself? I would play myself.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Like, think about

Speaker 2 full house. Yes.
But like modern day full house with a gay couple that lives on a farm. No, absolutely.
Like, it would just... Dream network.

Speaker 1 What would be your dream network to have that on

Speaker 2 i don't know because

Speaker 1 because you know just nobody watches cable i think

Speaker 2 it would have to be a streamer i feel like hulu netflix peacock like what are some other i those are the only ones hbo oh that's right oh my gosh frank max hbo max okay those are like the big ones we're working on i'm doing a series right now called doing the most with matt matthews yeah and that's where i go and do just like crazy things so like things the thing is like everybody says you can do everything can we go skydiving?

Speaker 1 Yes, I want to do that so bad I got AFF ground certified so that I could skydive by myself I like did the whole class I never actually continued because I like

Speaker 1 That was like during wait Are we gonna go skydiving together? Yes, that's what I was saying.

Speaker 2 I want to go so bad. I've always wanted to go to go together.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay, because I've gone so many so many times.
I've taken a lot of people skydiving one of the girls from team mom came skydiving with me in Hawaii. Okay.
So I was like, you have to do this.

Speaker 1 You're going to love it.

Speaker 1 but like the liberating first of all let me just tell you though when you skydive you're gonna want to take a nap a few hours later because the adrenaline wears off and when you crash you crash all you go to hell okay like you're in hell you're like i can't open my eyes so let's do that for your series okay and you're gonna love it and we'll pick a cool place where you'll get like good views not like social media views yeah like views from the yeah yeah yeah um

Speaker 2 because we i already know how that operates but um okay so the series is that where is that youtube so yeah so right where right now we're filming everything right um once it's once we totally film the series it'll we're gonna it'll be one episode a week okay um right now it's proposed youtube okay um i know i know i know you have issues with that um

Speaker 2 but like so the first episode we did fitness we did bungee fitness so like they strap you in and you know i wanted to do that i knew exactly what you were talking about um second episode i went to an all-black business here in birmingham a black-owned business and i cooked with the mom it was called

Speaker 2 no that's why it was so great. Cause the restaurant is called Yo Mama's, and it's incredible.
It's so good. One of my favorite places to eat.

Speaker 2 Should we eat there? It's right next to my store if you want to go eat there today. Yes.

Speaker 2 It's so good. It is

Speaker 2 like soul food. And so

Speaker 2 the lady, Yo Mama, the mama of it, I got to cook with her. And so like she was teaching me how to make like salmon croquettes and like

Speaker 2 salmon. I'll watch that.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Pancakes. Like she taught me to make homemade pancakes, like, all these different things that I don't know how to cook.
Okay.

Speaker 2 So, like, that's the premise of the show: everybody says, Matt, you're so good at everything. You do everything.
Yeah. And so, I'm like, well, let's do some shit that I'm not good at.
You know?

Speaker 2 So, tomorrow we're doing goat yoga.

Speaker 2 But you hate goats. Yeah.
Okay. That's right.

Speaker 1 Like with your own goats?

Speaker 2 No, hell no. Okay.
No, we're going to like an actual goat yoga place. Okay.

Speaker 2 And then I'm doing, I'm going to be a guest bartender. So I'm going to bartend at a brewery.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Are you familiar with alcohol and healthy drinks? okay okay I love this for you I'm sure you love it so it's going to be fucked this

Speaker 1 when I go to the nail salon um they always have the TV in the background that's this like

Speaker 1 maybe you guys will know what it's called um it's like this guy who goes to all these other countries and like tries the food and like makes the food and do you know who I'm talking about

Speaker 1 no he goes to like Asia and like all these you're giving

Speaker 1 Doing all the cool shit. You know what I mean? I love that.
And I think people are going to fucking love this. They're going to love this.
Let's hope. Do you want to babysit for one of the episodes?

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Don't want to babysit. But if you ever want that for an episode, just let me know.
Okay. We'll have you.

Speaker 2 No, hand your breath. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're like, I'm never calling. You could come to Delaware and you could take care of some farm animals in Delaware.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 He's like, they're not my animals.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Have you been around the Amish? They have Amish here.

Speaker 2 Yeah. They do?

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They won't be on camera.

Speaker 2 You act like we don't got nothing here.

Speaker 1 Well, that's how they treat Delaware. So that's why I'm treating like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 So you're just trying to shit on us because y'all get shit on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, basically. Like I had someone ask me where Delaware was and I, what state that was in.

Speaker 2 And I said, Delaware is the first state.

Speaker 1 Like we don't have taxes because it's the first state.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So, so you're going to do your series. When does that come out?

Speaker 2 Summer-ish.

Speaker 1 Summer-ish. Okay.

Speaker 2 So 2024. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because

Speaker 2 we're still not done filming.

Speaker 1 Is the big tour that you're going to do in 2024 or 2025? or you don't know? Can you say?

Speaker 2 Yes. So

Speaker 2 I start working. I've already started working on the new material for the new show because it's a new show.
Yeah. I'm doing some comedy clubs in September just to kind of work out the new material.

Speaker 2 Because you never know. Like when you're doing stand-up, you cannot get your material ready until you get on stage and start

Speaker 2 seeing what works and what doesn't. Because you may think something is great and the audience may not like it.

Speaker 2 You have to like get on stage and it's trial and error. Okay.

Speaker 2 So I'm doing three comedy clubs in september to work on the new show okay and then the new tour will probably start in october okay how do you feel about like ellen degenerate stand-up did you ever watch her stand-up have you do you watch stand-up nope

Speaker 1 do you not want to why

Speaker 2 um

Speaker 2 i don't like to compare myself to other people okay and if i watch other people i will compare myself to them okay um

Speaker 2 i don't think The majority of them are funny. Okay.

Speaker 2 I've watched like 90% of the Netflix specials and I'm like, how did they get a Netflix special? Because this isn't funny.

Speaker 2 Like, I watched the Netflix specials and that may be controversial, but like, I watch Netflix specials, and I'm like,

Speaker 2 when am I supposed to laugh?

Speaker 1 That's how I felt about Matt Rifes.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 where's the joke?

Speaker 1 I saw him live, and I thought it was, it was all right. But then, like, re-watching it, I think I thought it was funny because I was there.

Speaker 1 But then when I watched this, I wasn't there for the filming of the special. But when then I watched part of it, and I was like, I turned it off.
I don't even think I finished it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I didn't finish it either where's the joke do people compare you

Speaker 2 yeah we get compared all the time why you don't

Speaker 2 I don't understand I think it's because we're just young white guys okay so they compare us a lot do you also get work done to your face I know actually I have I got Botox yeah I do have Botox Disport or Botox Botox okay um I just got my Botox yesterday actually well it looks great

Speaker 1 I started moving a little bit and I was like fuck that I can't I can't some movement right here yep people don't know the difference between fillers and discord Botox. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So they're like, oh my God. Like, stop washing your face.
My stepmom literally is like, she's like, if you keep getting work done to yourself, you're not going to look like yourself.

Speaker 2 I was like, I've never had work done to myself.

Speaker 2 I've had Botox. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And you can't even.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 somebody asked me Saturday if I had a nose job.

Speaker 2 I was like.

Speaker 1 Your nose is literally.

Speaker 2 perfect.

Speaker 1 I was like, why is it so symmetrical?

Speaker 2 I was like, this is the nose I was born with. I have had liposuction.
Did you? Yeah, it did absolutely. I also had lipo.
It did absolutely nothing for me.

Speaker 1 See, I loved my lipo.

Speaker 2 It did nothing for me, and it was the most excruciating thing I'd ever had.

Speaker 1 That is the worst pain I've ever experienced.

Speaker 2 I was awake during mine. They didn't put me to sleep.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They put a sheet right here so that I couldn't see them.

Speaker 1 Was it laser lipo or regular?

Speaker 2 No, it was.

Speaker 1 It was this.

Speaker 2 I know you're fucking lying. No, they did not put me to sleep.
Why? They just lie to Kane.

Speaker 1 But are you

Speaker 1 not good with anesthesia?

Speaker 2 No. I'm fine.

Speaker 1 So why did they do that?

Speaker 2 She said it makes the recovery process worse.

Speaker 2 Did you agree with that, Kristen?

Speaker 2 I just went with it. I didn't know.
What? And I had always had.

Speaker 1 Did they give you volume?

Speaker 2 No, gave me nothing. And when I left, she said, take Tylenol.

Speaker 2 Where did you go? To a place in Birmingham.

Speaker 1 No, listen to me.

Speaker 1 Liposuction is the most painful

Speaker 1 cosmetic surgery that I've ever had.

Speaker 2 It was excruciating. You don't understand.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 My husband drove me home and I laid against the door and I cried.

Speaker 1 No, I thought I was dying. Christine took care of me.
Not only did she.

Speaker 2 Did not prescribe me any pain pills. I had Tylenol.

Speaker 2 Are they certified or whatever? Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 Matt, I would have died.

Speaker 2 Like, she's doing it, and then she hit a spot.

Speaker 2 she hit a muscle right there and I felt it and I almost came off the table like we were I she was like yeah his blood pressure is going up really I was like we got to stop I'm done so I was like that's the end of my cosmetic procedures

Speaker 2 I did it because I've always been very self-conscious about my belly like I've never been able to lose it you know and like I've always been very self-conscious of that and she was like oh you just have a little bit we could lipo that and it would just be flat Could you do like Ozempic?

Speaker 2 I mean, I could, but I won't.

Speaker 1 I get accused. I just got accused on social media of Ozempic, and I thought that was funny because I would have, but I'm like not on it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I would. Yeah, right.
I'm not because I try to be very holistic. Okay.
And I'm like, I just think to myself, like, what are the fucking side effects of that?

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 the shit, like, I don't even like to take Tylenol. Right.
I don't drink alcohol. Okay.
Like, you know, so I'm thinking to myself, like,

Speaker 2 what are these bitches that are popping the O gonna, you know, like, what's going to happen to you?

Speaker 1 Have you seen Scott Disick lately? No.

Speaker 2 Who's that?

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 What? I don't know who that is.

Speaker 1 Courtney Kardashian's ex.

Speaker 2 Maybe if I saw a picture.

Speaker 1 I'm about to show you.

Speaker 2 Who's Courtney Kardashian?

Speaker 2 I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 Imagine. Hold on.
When I saw this, I was sick. I'm like, okay, Ozempic, I feel like liposuction.
When I got liposuction, I had like the whole mommy makeover, right? It was after my second child.

Speaker 1 I thought I was going to be done having kids. So I was like, let me do this whole thing, right

Speaker 1 for me was using it as a jumpstart so from the time that i got it and i was healed until i ended up getting pregnant again i maintained it right so you ruined that whole makeup oh 100 girl 100

Speaker 1 but so my point was that just it's it's a

Speaker 1 It's a starting point, but you have to maintain it. I think a lot of people think like you get lipo or cosmetic surgery and you don't have to maintain it.

Speaker 1 It's like the solution, instant solution, right? But when you get things like that, you have to work out and maintain it.

Speaker 1 I think that Ozempic or or other weight loss drugs would be the same where you're like using them as a starting point and then you have to maintain them in other ways eat healthy exercise all the things right so anyway i this is um i guess because if you don't know who scott disease is this isn't going to hold any weight for you but like i mean i may know him when i say the picture the picture on the left is his face now because of ozempic ish allegedly things he looks like a crackhead yeah

Speaker 1 So like that also, I've heard things like Ozempic butt. Have you heard of that? No.

Speaker 1 Where like you lose weight so rapidly that your butt sags and so it's like your butt but like it's just hanging skin have you heard this you can keep that

Speaker 1 so I'm like scared of that because my butt is so big I'm you can't correct that no so I'm scared don't do it but I but like I get no

Speaker 2 don't do it

Speaker 2 I'm gonna get my boobs done though I mean, I think you look fine.

Speaker 1 I just would like to my text.

Speaker 1 Okay, so just text me. I can't see it now, but did you have fun doing farm chores?

Speaker 2 Mind your business. Like, just mind your business.

Speaker 1 I would do lipo, boob job. You wouldn't get any, like, I know.

Speaker 2 I have no interest in plastic surgery again. After that experience, you were like, fuck it.
Fuck it. Okay.
I'll wear Spanks.

Speaker 1 Actually, Spanks, the company, I just got my first pair of like Spanks pants. They're fantastic.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm coming out with my own Spanks line.

Speaker 1 Are you being for real or are you being funny?

Speaker 2 No, for real.

Speaker 2 I fucking love that. It's called right and tight shapewear.

Speaker 2 Where do you come up with these names? Because one day I put spanks on and I was like, baby, I'm trying to be right and tight, not left and loose.

Speaker 1 Left and loose is also good.

Speaker 2 And it just, it just stuck. Well, I love that.
So when is that? So my tagline, we're working on it now. My tagline is, you don't want to be left and loose.

Speaker 2 So get your right and tight shapewear by Matt Matthews. Period.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And you get it all on your website.

Speaker 2 All on my website. Okay.

Speaker 1 So mattmatthews.com.com. What else do you want to plug while we're here? Nothing.
okay then let's do this

Speaker 2 shut up shut up nothing

Speaker 2 i'm not gonna be myself i am so ready to do farm chores i have my boots on um i am gonna change my pants probably yeah well you gotta put a robe on oh well 100 but i'm not gonna be naked underneath of it because i will be loose and goose what is it left and loose i will be left and she is loose as a goose yeah after seven kids i mean i'm gonna get a little uh

Speaker 1 vaginal rejuvenation.

Speaker 2 You need it.

Speaker 1 After that.

Speaker 2 He's like, I don't even know, but after seven, I would just say,

Speaker 1 my last two, they're twins, and it was a C-section. Oh, thank God.
So baseball.

Speaker 2 I basically just need a little nipple tucking down the bag. I'd say I'm a platinum star guy.
I've never, I've never.

Speaker 2 What is it called? I'm a platinum star. Platinum star.
I've never touched a vagina.

Speaker 2 I didn't even come out of one. Wait.
I was a C-section. Oh.
Oh.

Speaker 2 never touched a vagina

Speaker 2 wow didn't even come out of one so you had never you've never

Speaker 1 okay um now that we're talking about this really quick

Speaker 1 my ex-girlfriend looks just like you

Speaker 2 is that i mean she must be cute yeah no hit her she's got a beard well no that's the only hold on let me see If this bitch is ugly, I'm flipping this table.

Speaker 1 She's not ugly and neither are you.

Speaker 1 Lord, I'm scared.

Speaker 2 Wait, so

Speaker 2 you're a bisexual?

Speaker 2 What was that?

Speaker 2 Why am I about to pee on myself? I can't because you start laughing and your laugh makes me laugh. Hold on.
You're a bisexual. That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 It's like a thing.

Speaker 2 You're a bisexual. Are you bisexual?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I guess. Or did you mean like a friend that's a girl? No.
Like a girlfriend. Yeah.
She's my girlfriend. Okay.
Like was my girlfriend. I don't look nothing like that.
Yes, you do. No.

Speaker 1 Things are coming on barely fucking famous.

Speaker 2 Let me tell you something.

Speaker 2 This has been a real treat.

Speaker 1 This has been an experience.

Speaker 2 This has been an experience.

Speaker 1 And it's about to get even more.

Speaker 2 Yes, because we're about to do farms. We got to feed these animals.

Speaker 1 Okay, wait.

Speaker 1 We need to close this out with like, instead of get up, we're doing farm chores. Should it be get up, get up, we're doing farm chores? Okay, this podcast is over.
Get up.

Speaker 2 We're doing farm tours. Period.
Period.

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