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Welcome to the shit show.

Things are going to get weird.

It's your faved villain, Kale Lower.

And you're listening to Barely Famous.

Where do you want our hair gap?

Uh.

Yeah, my hair's more on this side.

That works.

So you want my hair on this side?

Sure.

She's the boss.

No, whichever side.

Just make sure the other one's not coming through the front.

She is the boss.

Like, people think that I'm the one in charge.

I'm the one getting the content, making sure everything's in order.

I do the hair and makeup, so we make sure it's all perfect.

Are you serious?

yes i'm serious i take a selfie yeah

she's on it

and then we'll make do

content later wait until you gotta do your other okay wait until you see her when she takes out her camera oh yeah oh my gosh it's a big pink camera but this camera literally makes you look like the most glowing goddess ever and no editing just it's the camera it's just the camera for real it's amazing welcome catherine and gabriella to to the Barely Famous podcast.

Thank you.

I am just like, please don't edit any of that out.

Like, we were already rolling.

Just leave it in there.

I'm blown away.

So I started watching Smothered.

Okay.

Met you guys.

I want to know your thoughts.

So I have some questions.

And I don't know if you're under contract.

I obviously don't want to get you guys in trouble.

I met you guys at two events back to back.

I think we were in LA for both of them.

Yes.

Is that right?

Fabulous.

How do you like working with Johnny?

We love Johnny.

We love Johnny.

I also had Johnny on the podcast.

Oh, fun.

Yeah, I had him on for a Patreon episode.

And he was just, because Johnny and I have worked together for years and then I ran into him for the first time in so long and I met you guys.

Yes.

So when did you guys start filming Smothered?

So we actually started filming in April of 2023.

Last year.

Right?

Yeah.

So we started filming last year and then it debuted on the 12th of December.

December.

But it's actually, today is actually a very big day because one year ago today, we were announced as the cast on smothered how did you get casted though did you apply for it yes you did

mama let's give credit where credit's due

yeah

yeah this was all my mom's doing and i looked up the show i had never seen it before and i was concerned you were concerned but do you feel like you have that sort of relationship i am definitely smothered for sure so we definitely fit the show like perfectly to a tee but before the people on it were weird they were concerning they were concerning i've definitely seen other casts And I was like, okay,

okay.

But we made it our own, so it was okay.

100%.

I mean, I saw the casting over five years ago when it was called Mini Me.

And I always dressed the girls alike.

We were always so close.

We always all looked alike, going, you know, wherever, the four of us.

I was one of the sisters.

So I sent in pictures.

I am.

I sent in pictures of us, you know, all matching.

Yeah.

And I didn't realize until after that the show was named Smothered.

And then I kept in contact with the casting agent, Paul, who we love.

And we did get the opportunity to audition three years ago, but it wasn't the right time.

You know, we did do the Zoom.

We did send in our, you know, homemade tape, but I just kept on keeping contact with him.

And yeah, and then I learned how to do Instagram.

Yeah.

Social.

I was like, if you want to actually be on the show, like, we need to get the social media going because, like, I was doing social media for a while.

And I was like, mom, you got to learn Instagram.

so she's been doing she's been doing good she shows up in my tick tocks I keep telling her to start her on TikTok well you actually came up on my for you fit my for you page I think last week just organically and I was like wait a minute I know her and you're doing the curly girl like hair how you get your hair

stunning hair I'm assuming it runs in the family or are yours is yours natural as well yes I hope that my daughter has the hair that you guys have it's just

incredible curly hair it's very different it's like a full-time job having to work on it well once I saw the video I was like do I want Mallie to have curly hair?

I know.

And your sisters have it too from what I saw on the show.

And when you originally were wanting to go on the show three years ago, was it for all your daughters?

Or was it always with Gabriella?

It was always with Gabriella.

Oh, period.

Because

I mean, I feel like because

when you looked at past episodes, and I didn't watch Smothered that much prior.

Okay.

It was always with one daughter.

And I think with Gabriella, because we are so close, we are so much alike.

Where the sisters were close, we're a close family, but they don't like to do the pageants.

They don't like the modeling and the glitz and the glamour.

Okay.

So it was more with Gabriella.

And then when we started doing the social media together with her TikToks, when initially when I would show up, the numbers would go crazy.

Yes, and everything

would go viral.

It would be like a transition.

So like I'd be sitting here, I threw a shoe that was the first one.

And then my mom caught it with her foot and it went boom and then it went to my mom sitting there and it was a very iconic and people went crazy on it.

So, you know, my saying is when mama shows up, the numbers go up.

Yep, that's true.

It's true.

Hey, the proof is in the pudding.

Look at the numbers.

No, I believe you.

You don't have to convince me.

When I watched this, I was like, okay, but my question is, how do your sisters feel about that?

Like, are they upset by it at all?

Or are they, this is what they've been used to kind of their whole life?

Because I did see on one of the episodes that they didn't want to be matching anymore, but you still didn't mind it.

No, if anything, they're embarrassed, and it makes it seem like they're left out, but they don't want to be matching, they do not want to be doing pageants, they're just embarrassed.

And we do ask them all the time.

I mean, they're in school, so you know, and they go

all the time.

Yeah, I mean, they're a good sidekick, they are the fan favorites,

they are authentic, just as you see them.

The little one, Sophia, I mean, she's funny as could be, and you know, yeah, I get the hate, but you know, you do.

I say, Why hate?

Appreciate,

right?

Do they really call you calf?

Well, I don't like that.

No, oh, you don't like it, no.

The oldest one, some yeah, she is.

I don't like it.

No, that's not you're the youngest, that's the middle child, actually.

Interesting, that's disrespectful to call me that, but no, the little one doesn't.

No, Sophia does not call me that.

The little one, you know, she sees as her princess.

She has no idea.

Maybe she's not a princess.

But I'm obsessed with all of them.

The sisters,

they secretly like the show.

I secretly had fun filming.

Oh, sure.

So they secretly like it, but yeah, they don't want to do all the fun things that we do.

They just don't want to.

We invite them.

We invite them to everything.

But they didn't want to walk like a flamingo.

No, no.

No, they didn't want to learn.

I really tried to get Sophia to do the teen pageant.

I was like, this would be wonderful.

She can try for Miss Connecticut.

You can be for Miss Connecticut teen.

I'll train you both.

And she said no.

No.

But you were former Miss Connecticut.

Is that right?

Okay.

Can you tell me about that?

How did you get into pageants?

So I was a dancer growing up and I know I just thought that pageants would be a good stepping stone from dance.

Okay.

I was in the Miss America system because dance was 50% of the score at that time.

The two different pageant systems

or Miss USA.

that goes to Miss Universe and Miss America.

So Miss America is the talent.

That's the difference between the two.

So I was always in the Miss America system, and I just couldn't win.

But she was always like first runner-up.

She was like right there.

Yeah, I mean, I got tired of being first runner-up, second runner-up.

So then I was like, okay, it's pretty clear.

Maybe they don't want me.

Hey, that's kind of familiar what happened.

But anyway, maybe they don't want me.

So I went to the Miss USA system.

Okay.

And the first runner year, the first year I was first runner-up.

The second year, I was second runner-up.

And then the third year, I won.

And I don't know.

I just thought the world was here.

The world was right at my doorstep after trying so hard and dancing since I was a little girl.

And then six weeks after I won Miss Connecticut, preparing for Miss USA, my mother died suddenly.

So, which you'll see on the show.

I never really told anybody.

I mean, what you saw on the show was very authentic.

It was the first time that I really opened up and told what really happened.

I don't know if I was just like embarrassed.

So when I went to Miss USA, I was certainly not in my right headspace.

I found my mother dead and it was really a tragic time for me.

And I just, you know, had a hard time coping through such loss.

Was she a huge support for you in your pageants?

She was a huge support for me.

She was my, you know, she was my mom.

I mean,

you know, we were together all the time.

So, you know.

Were you as close with her as you are with your daughters?

I was very close to my mom, yes.

But, you know, it was a little bit of a different time.

Like, she never drove.

Okay.

You know, she just, she, she, she had her license, but she never drove.

But yeah, I mean, my mother was my playmate.

My mother was, you know, who I went to the store with.

We even had a little part-time job together.

So you did.

Yeah, we had a little bit of all this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When I was in high school, I worked at a little clothing store when I was 16, and she worked there at night.

Yeah.

So, you know, we we would walk to work together because neither one of us drove.

And it was a long way.

I mean, it was at least like two miles.

I mean, we that's a long walk.

I don't know, maybe it was a mile, but no, it was like it was a while that we would walk to like the plaza and we'd have our little job together.

So

yeah, I mean, it was very tragic.

I was very sheltered as a child.

I never, like, I didn't even know how to do the laundry.

I never knew.

I do not do laundry.

I saw on the show that your mom does her laundry.

Oh, I do it all.

Correct.

And not that I like it, but

you're like, I didn't have to do it for as long as I had to.

And she does not to do it.

So,

yeah, I was very close to my mom.

And I think that gives me a real heart of compassion for people that have been through any kind of loss or any kind of struggle because I know how it is.

And I know how difficult it is to stand up again after you've really been.

you know, everything's been taken away.

How did that shape your relationship or the, you know, the impact on you becoming a mom with your first daughter because i know that you're the middle child so what did that look like for you when you became a mom well number one i had no idea what to expect because if you don't have a mother or you know a very good mentor i mean i had my friends but to kind of guide you through i was scared i was like oh my gosh you know is my career i was always been i've always been very career oriented is my career going to to fail now what am i going to do how does it look like and then you read those those books that are horrendous.

You know, what to expect when you're expecting it.

I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to go through this and this is terrible.

I'm like, you know,

so

yeah, I mean, it did impact because I didn't have that guiding force to help me and to call and to say, what do I do with this?

And many women write to me and say the same thing when they have lost their mom or, you know, a key figure in their lives.

So when I had the first daughter, yeah, I'm very protective.

I mean, I'm very close to all three girls, very protective.

Never wanted them to have sleepovers, very careful.

You know, if they were in the car with someone, you know, if I didn't know, I would always be the one to, again, have the kids over to my house, always have the safe place at my house, always be the one that would drive the kids to wherever they needed to go.

Right.

So, yeah, all our experiences impact us.

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How do you feel now that you know that?

Um, I have known it.

I just didn't know the details that you worked with her.

That's kind of really cute.

Yeah, because now we should work together.

We open a shop now, I know you just like go walk together.

Do you also do hair?

I saw that you do hair, yes.

I'm a hairstylist.

No, my mom does not do hair, she um, she actually works for a radio station.

Yeah, so we all kind of have our separate jobs also.

Um, people think that just because we're on reality TV, we don't work anymore.

I know I'm like, no, I have like a ton of jobs,

yeah, we still have a lot of jobs.

But how do you get time off for then for this?

Because you're from Connecticut, is that nice, which is not too, too far for New York-based things, right?

Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's it's really quick.

I mean, we just take the train and luckily I have the best boss in the world.

She lets me take time off and I just move my clients around my schedule.

Oh, good for you.

It makes it nice and easy.

Yeah.

Our schedules are very flexible.

I love that.

And do you still live with your mom?

I do.

And do you have a plan to move out or do you think that that's going to be as long as you possibly can?

I have no plans to move out right now.

Whoop, whoop, as it should.

Mom's hype about that.

You know it.

I also feel that way.

Like, people thought it was crazy.

I just bought 20 acres in Delaware and I'm like, I want my kids to live with me as long as possible, especially with the climate of the economy.

I'm like,

you don't need to move out anytime soon.

I don't want you to pay any more bills than you have to pay.

We don't, there's no reason for us to be in this rush to be so independent.

If we're

not, if what we have is working, there's no reason why you need to move out if you don't want to work.

What's the problem?

I love that.

Maybe we should look into more land.

I mean, we should be able to build a new system.

Just build a compound, right?

I like that.

We do have land

right next to us that we own.

I mean, it's not 20 acres, but yeah, you don't need 20 acres, just one.

Right.

I mean, that's, I like that idea.

And even if you're not, you know, necessarily in the same house, you can be right next door.

I don't know.

It's, it's hard to find people that you trust in in life sometimes.

And if you're so very close to your family, why not?

But has that impacted relationships with maybe significant others?

I don't know if you've ever had a partner.

If you've had a, you're married, right?

Has that ever interfered with a relationship, like a romantic relationship?

I mean, for me, I'm definitely staying single right now.

I mean, I've had boyfriends in the past, but like right now, it is kind of hard because like, one, in this industry, it's kind of hard to have a boyfriend because it's just a better look to be single.

And also, like, we're just, we're traveling all over.

So it's like a man, like, needs time and attention.

And I mean, I'd love to give him attention.

And I love boys for sure.

But I'm am looking for a boy who's very independent in his own career.

That way we're kind of like busy.

Sort of, yeah, independent in that no that makes sense but would do you think that they would think that your relationship with your mom is weird you know my mom calls it a love triangle so um weever she's dating you're dating because you have to vet him out kind of yeah to get along with my mom yeah and i mean if we're gonna go to like a gala or an appearance like and he wants to come and like take our picture sure but like only take the picture he can't be the plus one because you guys are each other's i am the plus one or she's the plus one it'd be great if he was like a photographer too so like if he's like trained photographer to come take our picture but like he has to you know be able to come and hang out with us yeah no i think that makes a lot of sense though you need someone who is there to support not to sort of interfere unless he wants to have the spotlight because we do have our eye on one boy oh

you have we as a we know both of us

like a little one

brought it up Well, yes.

Okay.

His name is Juan Soto.

He's number 22 on the Yankees.

Now, but he might be traded.

Whatever.

It doesn't matter where he's going

And my mom's down for him.

I'm down for him.

Well, no, he's mine.

Is he singing?

Who knows?

And how do you know about him?

Well, we actually...

Cute.

We went to the Yankees.

We did go to the Yankees and we did see him in the middle of the year.

We walked in a fashion show at Yankee Stadium on the in the same outfit?

Right there.

Yes.

Did he see you?

How could he miss her?

Hello?

This is true.

So, like, we're working on that.

So, are you talking to him?

Maybe.

We'll see.

You never know.

We're working on him, but we're working on it.

He has to do it too, but he has to,

but Juan, baby, he has to like accept both of us.

Like, because in other words,

he's got to come to the compound and he's got to be with us in the compound.

He has to build the house.

He's in the MLB, right?

So, I think they don't have a cap salary-wise.

I think payment-wise, so he needs to build the compound for you.

Oh, he's doing well.

And also, the good thing, no, we can do our own.

I want strong women, you know, of course.

We're gonna do our own kids.

We're gonna do our own.

No.

We're 25.

I had three kids by 25.

This is true, but yeah, no, we get, no.

But, but I think

I always want the girls to be strong and independent on their own and not to be

reliant on a man.

Reliant on a man, because then you're going to feel like you're in quicksand and not going to be able to get out.

No.

Do your own thing.

If someone comes and they can add to your relationship and add to your life, wonderful.

But you have to know them for a long time.

And I don't know, I feel like, in addition,

you know, I have very good instincts of people.

I'll be able to tell right away.

Yes, 100%.

And your sisters would be able to tell you right away, too.

Yes, yes.

You know, so I guess the big picture is:

yes,

she is available, but right now we are very busy and it would be a package deal.

The dating would be a packaged deal.

And with your sisters, too, or no?

Yes.

My sisters don't care.

They don't care.

No.

Okay.

But, but, you know, I mean, I want to be a part of everything.

Of course, you will.

Yeah.

Yeah.

On the show, you mentioned your dad on one of the episodes, but not really.

I haven't seen him on the show.

Yeah.

Is he not wanting to be on the show?

My dad likes to stay behind the cameras.

He likes to like check on the lighting.

Like if anything breaks, like he's there to fix it.

He has like, so I call him Dewey instead of dad.

So we just call him like Dewey because he has a dad.

So Dewey is your dad.

Yes.

His name's

Okay, so but the way it's on the show is Catherine's husband.

So I assumed dad's not in the picture and that is your second husband is how I took it.

Screaming.

So dad is on so Dewey is because it said Todd's and then Dewey in quotes.

So I was like, oh, I wonder where like dad is, but that is dad.

That is dad.

Got it.

How does he feel about all of this?

Like, does he, is he on board with the pageants and the looking, the dressing alike and everything?

Yeah, he's very supportive.

He just likes to stay in the background.

Okay, got it.

And if anything needs to be fixed, he can

know how to sew.

He would braid our hair growing up.

Like, he's a dewey.

Like he's got the Dewey skills.

And we love that.

He knows.

We love that.

Yeah.

And like right now, he's home taking care of the six Chihuahuas.

You have six Chihuahuas?

Yes.

I saw two on the show so far.

Yeah.

So far.

I know they interrupted.

They interrupted with like the sound guy.

So we had to like, you know, the little feet.

Yeah.

We had to like put them away for a lot of the show.

Well, I can't, I can't help it.

I do a lot of pet adoptions when we work with the rescue.

So, I mean, I just want to give all the dogs, all of the animals, a home.

There should be a home.

Again, I like, I'd like to build a rescue one day.

But I do work with a wonderful woman that, you know, we do a lot of events together.

Actually, we have one coming up on Saturday.

So that's really exciting.

Yeah, it's nice.

Well, you know what's so funny is that you brought up, you know, people think that we don't work since you've been on the show.

But that's a really good point.

That's probably something that people don't necessarily think twice about.

And have you ever talked about the adoption or the foster with the animals?

Not on, not yet, but we good for you.

No, they need to hear this because it's not just reality TV.

You guys actually have other things going on.

Oh, yeah, a lot of things.

Yeah.

We do one or two pet adoption events a month and, you know, hundreds of dogs get adopted out.

And it's really nice.

I mean,

you know, when you hear the stories of these poor innocent animals that are just basically thrown to the wolves and, you know,

the brave people rescue them and we try to give them wonderful loving homes it's wonderful

good for you i love that so who picks out the outfits that y'all wear

oh it is a little bit of both of us but i definitely get the final say she has the final say people think that i'm the one that's smothered she smothers me too well i make sure it's all like done to a tea perfect yeah so she's like okay i'm texting johnny i'm like send me the background of the event like so i know like the aesthetic i know what we're going for oh you're in depth.

It's in depth.

No, we usually try to match the background.

Like, we make sure.

And we bring, we bring backup outfits.

So she brought in a sec, yeah, your backup outfit.

And she's like, this might clash with the chair.

I've never had

in my life had a guest do that.

And I love it and I respect it.

And I think that you, you should put in the effort because why not?

Got to match the aesthetic.

But what happens if you like something that you're wearing, but you don't necessarily love how it looks on you?

What do you do?

You just say no?

Or do you ever dress separately, like differently?

We never dress not matching, and so it has to be matching to a tee, even like the earrings, the necklace, like the boots, everything.

Um, usually, like, sometimes, like, she's like, the only difference is she's like a little taller than me.

Okay.

So, if something's like a little too long on me, I'm like, it's not going to work.

Either I have to pin it up or we got to wear something different.

Yeah, we usually compromise very well.

If I feel not comfortable on something, then she'll be like, oh, okay, if sometimes if material is a little too thin, but normally we're pretty good.

We have the same style, we have the same size, yes,

and the nice things the brands will send us, like matchings.

And so, I just make content for the brands, and then they send us whatever we want, which is very nice.

And the brands love it because it's like you get two generations with the both of us.

So, and usually the moms.

It's how it looks on the mom, it's how it looks on the daughter.

And you, the moms are the ones that have more, you know, the money to spend for the daughters.

So, brands should target two generations.

No, because that's a genius marketing plan.

And I feel like matching.

Johnny, Johnny, where are you?

Hello?

I saw on the show that you guys refer to it as matchings, which is the first time I've ever heard matchings with the S.

So I think that that is the brand.

Like you guys need to do your own brand on matchings.

That would be cute.

Because now I have

Camriella.

Absolutely.

Yes.

Do you want to buy matchings?

Absolutely.

Of course, you want to buy matches.

Yes.

No, I literally.

I'm telling you, it's really, there's something so psychological about it, too.

It's, it's sharing.

It's love.

It's like you go to the store.

And again, I always bought three or four, you know, with me, but like for the girls, by the time from the time that they were born, the first one would match with me.

When she came along, the two would always match.

It was easier because I never wanted her to feel like left out.

And I'm not like spending a fortune.

I go to Marshalls and TJ Maxx, even if it was a $9.99, you know, with the little socks.

I love the ruffle socks.

I still wear them.

Always, always in the little platform, you know, the little shoes.

And now we're just obsessed.

Like, we're obsessed with matching each other, but like, we're obsessed with like the the whole look being like matched like i have this swimsuit line it's literally a bikini and then it has a matching headband and i literally want to pass away every time i wear it because it's just that good like i just i don't know anything that makes me more happy

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The matchings that we bought last week were

the sharks.

Yeah, no, we were here in New York last week.

The matchings that we found, she loved them.

Absolutely.

No, and she loved them.

And I wasn't 100% because it was like a little bit sure, and the the top's going to have to be

sure.

I love them so much.

I was like, okay, that's fine.

So, but there's something so nice about if I'm in the store by myself and taking a picture and saying, do you like this?

And then buying two.

And again, it's, it's not,

you can do it very frugally.

Yeah.

And we also met someone in LA and he literally said to us, because like we're obviously one, two, he goes,

the outfit is the third person.

And we were like,

genius.

Genius.

The outfit's a third person.

You need the matchings at all times.

Yes.

You love the matchings.

You love that word.

I mean, I love it so much.

The matchings, but I also need yours.

I need your sisters to get on board.

Yeah.

Well, they always did.

I mean, you know, for Christmas, matching PGs, just wait.

Like, I'll make a TikTok with them with the matching PGs for Christmas.

Yes, they'll get on board with that.

They'll do that.

Yes.

Or for Christmas pictures.

Always Christmas pictures with, you know, like a pretty dress.

Or maybe we'll force them to do something.

We'll see.

Maybe if I just ask, like, hey, please just do this for for me.

I really need the matching.

Yeah.

Can you get dad on board, Dewey on board as well?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, he'll do it.

Whatever.

Oh, yeah.

He'll

do it.

But sisters, yes.

But, you know, again, they did match for years.

I mean, and again, I never want them to feel uncomfortable.

Right.

Okay.

And even when they would go to school, sometimes they didn't want to be matching if they were, you know, on the boss and when they got a little bit older.

So I always want them to be, feel comfortable.

Could you imagine if you had twins?

Like

the matchings that you would do.

Oh my gosh.

Wow.

I know.

That would be incredible.

And I don't know.

I just feel like it brings us closer.

It brings us closer.

So what you're saying is that when I get home, I immediately need to match my daughter.

You need to buy matches.

And you need to go to the store.

Yes.

And then it's funny because like we'll be walking down the street and people will look at me and then look away and then they'll look at her and they'll just be so confused.

Like, did I say the same person?

What did I just say?

Like, what did I just say?

Twins?

And of course, mommy loves that.

I'm like, loves it.

Literally, we just had a guy going down the escalator.

He's like, he's like, oh, sisters.

Sisters.

He's like, wow.

And then he got his mom and he's like, is that a mom?

Nope.

That's nope.

She says.

I'm obsessed with this.

I'm obsessed with it.

No, Valley's not ready.

My daughter's name is Valley.

She's not ready when I get home.

So, how old is she?

She's one.

She's a twin, but she's a twin with a boy.

So the boy, I can't do matchings with boys the same way.

Yeah, you can give them a little

eye or a little, yeah, same same color combination.

But yeah, it's so much fun.

And you'll see, like, she'll love it.

Everybody will love it when you walk down the street.

Yes.

People smile.

Just have her on your time.

And it's just like a happy thing to do.

It's nice.

It's really lovely.

It's not just for the holidays, just random, like middle of summer, middle of winter, whatever.

Do people in Connecticut think all of this is crazy that you're matching all the time?

Because they surely had to have known who you guys were before you started filming.

So now that you're filming, do they also think that this is just insane?

Yeah, I mean, ever since it came out on the show, like going out in our hometown's been a little odd because it's like, you know, it's a small town.

You also have a pink Jeep, so you don't

lend it.

It's not giving small town vibes.

I know.

So it's odd.

You wanted pink.

Oh, for sure.

Okay.

It's the only color.

Do you also have a pink car?

Well, no, because

then I wouldn't be in with her.

She wants to be in the car with me.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, no.

I mean, I would get a matching car for her car, but then if I get a matching car for her,

no, she must be closer to me.

No, because then we'd be in separate cars.

So y'all drive together.

Yes.

Yes.

I mean, when we go to work.

She has worked for it.

Her favorite color is actually white.

Yeah.

She loves everything white.

So like the house is white.

She has a white car, but I made us paint the front door pink.

But it was green or teal.

It was actually green.

Yeah.

It was very active.

And now it's pink.

Now it's pink.

And one of the rooms, rooms in your house that I saw on the show are also painted pink.

Yeah.

We're working on

a lot.

I really hope in the future, maybe in, maybe on TV.

We'll see.

I would really love the garage doors pink next.

We have free garage doors.

It'd be so good.

So,

I want to do

a whole house pink, but

we have siding.

And so, I'm like, dad, what if we take off the siding off, we have it painted with cement, and then we paint it pink?

He's like,

Dewey will do it.

Dewey's like, he would do it, but that's too big of a picture.

He would do it.

But that's a big project.

But maybe for Twitter.

We just have a lot of pink extra pictures.

Listen, TLC will give you your own show if y'all just live in a big pink house, pink pillars.

We got to make the pillars pink.

Well, I did say, here's a little tip.

I did say we do have the land that's right next to our house.

It's all paid.

I've got to know.

I've been telling her that constantly.

We can make a whole pink Barbie house right there, and that's where we can film.

Yeah.

Just to film, not to live?

We can live there too.

Sure, whichever.

I've been telling her.

I know we need better natural lighting in this house.

It's like all

about is like natural lighting.

So our house does need better natural lighting, but we'll see.

You're never going to hear a no from me.

I need

this next question.

You might, you might tell me no.

Okay.

Okay.

Can you define philanthropy?

I can.

Oh, shoot.

I remember this.

And how could it help society?

Oh, my goodness.

So I've learned that

philanthropy is like, it's like helping people, right?

Yes.

Yeah.

It's like philanthropic endeavors.

Period.

Your animal rescues, your animal give backs.

Those are philanthropic.

So much.

Actually, we're working on Toys for Tots we're going to do next month.

I have so many.

I work with the Marines, and we have so many Toys for Tots events that we're going to be doing.

I don't just call it charity events.

Why go philanthropic?

Oh, she doesn't know big words.

That's all right.

No problem.

That's what you got the llama for.

And if I don't know it, so what?

Dumb and dumber.

Whatever.

Whatever.

But you know what?

Everybody has gifts.

You know, I'm not the best speller.

So what?

I'm not that.

Philanthropy.

No.

P-H.

Oh, my God.

It's not enough.

No.

P-H-Philanthropy.

No, I think it's enough.

I don't know.

Just say good works.

Just say charity events.

Just say charity events.

That's so funny.

So what is your favorite part?

What was your favorite part?

I don't know if you're still filming now.

I obviously don't know if you could talk about that, but what is your favorite part about filming?

And did they think you were crazy?

Because you guys are so different from anyone else on Smothered.

Did you like it?

Did you not like it?

Would you do it again?

We would definitely do it again.

We love, love, love filming.

And like, I'm a content creator on social media.

So, like, it's, it's basically like the whole thing.

But, like, seeing it in like such a big scale with the production, we love the producers.

Love them.

We love the cast, the crew.

It was just so fun.

I feel so blessed that we're able to do it because we're doing it together.

And just sitting on that couch, you know, Gabrielle and I with our little matching and then sisters.

Yes.

It's like so cool.

Because when we do the confessionals, like the producer obviously like stood next to to the camera and like would ask us all the questions.

And so it'd be like a therapy session with like the sisters and they obviously are forced to sit there and like answer the questions.

And it was so funny.

The talks got funny.

And it's like home movies that we're going to have forever.

Exactly.

The sisters love home movies, but they're like, oh, this is a lot of work.

I'm like, guys.

Do the sisters know that you refer to them as the sisters?

Yeah, they do.

And they don't.

We always did.

Always.

Yes.

Yeah, they're sisters.

I would be one of the sisters too.

Yeah, my mom wants to be one of the songs.

Like, we have friends from dance competitions, and they'd be like, oh, Catherine, yeah you're one of the sisters but you're also one of the sisters we're all the sisters

we're all the sisters but if I'm with Gabriella then there's the sisters yeah if I'm with Sophia the little one I'd be like there's the sisters

okay so it's not just Sophia and your sister your daughter's name is the other Lauren Lauren Lauren and Sophia are not the only ones referred to as the sisters.

Correct.

People think, oh, we don't even use their real names.

We just say the sisters.

No, no, no.

They have names, but we're all the sisters.

Yeah, yeah if i'm shopping with sophia for example i'll say oh maybe sister would like this or maybe you know the sisters would like this referring to lauren and get a lot of plurals the sisters the matches

i don't know

but it's wonderful we would definitely we definitely want to continue on reality tv But your own show, maybe.

That would be.

Who do I need to write to at TLC?

Or work.

We'll talk later.

Okay.

Okay, because I've just

it would be so good.

So good.

I also want my own show.

So

just be like, hey, you give them a show.

I'll do a show.

You get two for one.

That's right.

You know what I mean?

That's right.

That's like one big production

thing.

You know what I mean?

Yep.

Double for any trouble.

It's true.

It says that in the Bible.

Yeah.

Like if you've been through a setback, you're not only going to get one blessing, you're going to get two.

It says it.

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So you're going to get double.

Like if something bad happens to you, just keep going forward.

Be good.

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If you ever had grandkids, would you also want them to match?

Yes.

She was like, wait, I don't know.

We actually joke that she's going to hold my kids because, like, I have abs.

I got them.

She doesn't want them.

I can have them.

First of all, like, I'll take them.

Isn't that disgusting?

I'll care.

Having another human being inside of you.

It's weird.

That's weird.

But it's cool.

That's weird.

Isn't that disgusting?

I will take, I will carry your children.

Are you being so serious?

You would carry her children?

That would be really ideal.

If she wants to.

That would be ideal.

Not one of the sisters.

I could ask them.

I don't think they would do it.

This would be iconic, though.

I would do it, but we got plenty of time for that.

Yeah, no, 100%.

I'm not pushing kids on anything.

I've had enough for all of us in this round.

There's so many.

Yeah, there's some.

You have seven, so we have ten between us.

I want seven.

We have ten.

Your mom's going to carry seven kids?

I don't know if I'm going to carry seven kids.

We still girls.

We can adopt.

No.

That's philanthropic.

I could, but like

seven, you're not going to have seven kids.

Seven is crazy.

You won't even make it with one.

Do you have hobbies that you don't do together?

So I know you're a hairstylist, you're a radio, like a personality in Connecticut?

I work in advertising for you.

Oh, got it.

Okay.

So do you have hobbies that you don't do together?

Hmm.

I don't think so.

I mean, we do most everything together.

We like everything, you know, we go for our walks together.

We go to the gym together.

We take dancing lessons together.

So, do you do anything with Dewey?

No.

I only do it with the kids.

Poor Dewey.

What?

No.

Dewey cooks.

He makes really good stuff.

I always cooked for all these years, but now.

But now it's all different.

I always cooked.

Always cooked, shopped, cleaned.

But now, you know, we're traveling so much.

Do the sisters do things with Dewey?

Yeah, I mean, they're in school okay what is the age gap you're you are 23 22 24 yeah and then my older sister is 19 so there's five years in between us and me and my older sister are 16 months apart oh so you guys are really close in age okay and so they're both in school yeah and then that doesn't really leave a whole lot but he's probably getting a lot of manly time by himself he works a lot whatever

he's fine

we love dewey yes there's a lot of dewey fans out there we love dewey we love him.

Okay, so what are your favorite mother-daughter duos in pop culture and media?

And Athlex, Jennifer Garner and her daughter look a lot alike.

And she's in Yale in Connecticut where we are.

A daughter.

Oh, yes.

Who else is there at like mother-daughter duo that I'm like?

She's knuckles.

You know, I mean, I'm not like, okay, I'm not like a huge Swifty.

Like, I will not die, right?

But like.

If you see her, she's always with her mom.

And it's literally the sweetest thing ever.

I don't think I've ever seen her mom.

Yeah, but her mom's back.

She's always with her.

Always with with her.

She's with her.

Her father's always with her.

Every time she's at the baseball, not baseball, always.

Football games, her mom's always there.

The concert.

Good for her.

I love that.

And her mom, her mom's always at the concerts with her whenever she's on tour.

And she picks out.

Have you seen like the 22 hat that like the little kids get?

No.

There's like this like little 22 hat that she puts on like one of the kids and the mom picks it out of the whole crowd.

That's cute.

I didn't know that.

Who else is there?

Like what other?

I'm trying to think, what other mother

you got it right here, baby.

That's it.

Look no no further

maybe

look no further Riley Keogh and Lisa Marie Presley or like are they like kind of like a mother daughter duo maybe I don't know

Sidney Crawford has a daughter that's kind of a look alike too her daughter is modeling now I don't know their names a certain mother daughter duo just walked in

the Victoria Secret fashion show

There was a mother-daughter duo that walked, and I was like, we should walk.

But it was like a mom and then Johnny.

call Johnny for everything hadith and yoga hadith too okay

I just I wonder what that's like

it's fun I mean we've walked in New York fashion week now we walked in Miami swim week last

when was that June and July we went to Miami how was that it was nice yeah yeah it was fun that's really we had a really good time so it was great mama was in a swimsuit rocking it you walked in a swimsuit yes good for you good I love that no it was good I just like a little

cover-up or a little side or a little something or a little skirt.

But yeah, it was fun.

It was great.

So because of the show that you're on and that you guys do this in real life,

what are some of the things that people have said to you that's like maybe not the greatest?

Oh, God.

Like misconceptions maybe

or just like...

What is maybe something that people say to you all the time that you're like, wait, what?

When we first started doing the TikToks together and I would show up and they would all go viral.

They were wonderful comments.

Lovely.

Oh my gosh.

She looks like your sister.

You two are great together.

So lovely.

There was hardly any bad ones.

But as soon as we started on the show, then the bad ones come.

It bothers me because I'm a mama bear and I don't want her to be hurt.

I'd never be hurt.

But she's very strong and it doesn't bother her, I think, because she grew up more with social media.

Social media, like with our generation, it's like we know, like, it's honestly sad if you're sitting in your basement literally commenting about like us.

Like, who are you?

you what are you doing you know right so like it's not gonna hurt me but like for my mom it's like they it hurts sometimes sometimes in the beginning i will tell you after

don't even say it i'm gonna tell her when the first show came out i mean i got so many bad comments and i didn't think there's anything wrong with it i mean i do drink celery it is very healthy it's great for your skin yes I drink, I've drank celery juice every morning for the past five years.

I follow the medical medium protocols.

What is wrong with that, though?

What is the problem?

Exactly.

What is the problem?

But there were so many terrible things.

Like they talk about my looks.

They'd say that I got plastic surgery to look like her.

And I haven't had it.

There's nothing wrong with that.

She's never had plastic surgery.

I haven't had anything done.

There's nothing wrong if you do want to do anything, but like terrible things about me.

Like what, like...

I shouldn't wear the same outfits because I don't look good in them.

I think you look great.

What's the problem?

I would, I would be, I mean, even if you weren't here and wearing wearing the same outfit, you look fantastic.

I would wear these outfits or the dresses, no matter if we were matching or not.

I'm comfortable with it.

So there were so many like bad, bad, you know, negative comments.

Like I literally went in my closet and kind of cried a little bit.

I did.

I did.

I admit it.

I have feelings.

I'm emotional.

But since then, It's been, it's, it's fine.

I don't really look at it anymore.

You know, there's a handful of things that'll be like, you you know, I'm stealing her spotlight.

I'm not stealing her spotlights.

We're going through life together.

We like it together.

I ask her, not often, but you know,

are you happy?

Even last year, are you happy?

I want to make sure she's happy.

Are you comfortable?

If she wanted to stop matching and not do shows and not model with me tomorrow, I'd be like, okay, I would still be there with her because, I mean, she can't even rent a car.

I mean, she can't really.

When we went to LA, we had a wonderful time.

We were there for a week.

Going to that reality show, Star of the Year for Us Weekly, was incredible.

But I would still have to go with her, even if I wasn't part of it.

But what's wrong with the mom?

What's the problem?

So if she,

you know, if Gabriella said to you today, I don't want to do this anymore, would you be okay with it?

Yes.

But

would it hurt, I would imagine?

I mean, I always think of her first and her happiness.

I think that it adds to her life and her career.

But if she really really in her heart just woke up one day and was just like,

I'm going to wear Crocs.

I'm going to, you know, whatever.

Wait,

are we, are we slandering Crocs?

Well, we're.

No, my older sister wears Crocs and she's just like, you know, crocking.

You know, there's nothing wrong with the Crocs, but it's like a family

joke

where, you know, they won't wear shoes.

The oldest one will only wear crocs.

So it's a little bit, there's nothing wrong with crocs.

Yeah, exactly.

But if she woke up one day and she did not want to do our career anymore or whatever, I'd be like, okay.

Trust me, that's not going to happen.

I've always felt like I was destined for more.

And that's going to happen with me.

This is where I'm belonging.

And I feel like it's an inspiration to women, no matter what your lot in life, what challenge is, your age, your demographic, whatever.

I think it's an inspiration that you can still follow your dreams regardless of what's going on in your life.

I mean, you know, for 20 years, I was home raising my girls.

She did the whole home thing and now we're like

now you're best friends.

Yeah,

now we're living life and traveling constantly.

And it's been, yeah, I mean, it's wonderful.

I mean, I couldn't think of anyone else I would want to do it with.

And if I was just doing it on my own, it wouldn't be as much fun.

And like I said, like we, it was literally one year ago today that it was in Access Hollywood announced us as the cast.

So like one year ago, like this is such a special day.

Yeah.

And like my mom was actually out working working and I was luckily home and like I made the announcement post on my Instagram and like I had like prepared it to get people like excited for the announcement.

I was like, oh, something's coming.

And it was like such a big secret because when you're announced to the castle, you cannot tell anyone for months and you're filming

for months.

And so it's like, and I, I post on social media every day.

So to keep that big secret for so long was crazy.

But

you were so excited.

It was.

Were you so excited when you.

It was incredible.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's good to have a good relationship with your production team.

Yes.

Because there's nothing worse than having a horrible relationship with a production team when you're not happy and you're like, I we were happy, no, good for you, yeah.

I actually said, um, if I was to have my own show, I would want to go to TLC, yes,

but I've never worked with TLC, so I'm just speaking off of like what I see.

Yeah, we loved the biggest shock is how many people watch.

I mean, we know that TLC is like a big network, but like, how many people stop us on the street, even if we're not together?

Oh, really?

Crazy, yes, even what about when you come to like places like New York and LA and things like that?

It's constant.

We're together.

It's constant.

No matter where we are on the street.

Oh my God, smothered.

Oh, look, you're mother.

Oh, everywhere on the street.

And everywhere we go, they don't.

No, they just say

and a lot scream, smothered.

A lot of men.

And they're like, oh, no, like my wife watches it.

No, they do.

And I was like, no, you watch it.

I was like, I know you watch it.

And they're like, yeah, I know.

What is your favorite reality TV show?

Do you watch reality TV?

We do.

So we do watch The Bachelor and Bachelorette a lot.

Okay.

We just finished The Golden Bachelorette.

It was kind of good this season.

It was kind of, it was kind of really cute.

So wholesome.

Oh my goodness.

I didn't see it, so I have no idea.

It was kind of good.

It was good.

Personally, I love the show Too Ought to Handle.

My mom thinks it's a little scandalous, but it is, but that's why they get the second.

I love it.

Do you watch Love is Blind?

No, we don't actually watch that.

I watched the first season a little bit.

Me too.

And then we love Dancing with the Stars.

Okay, would you ever go on Dancing with the Stars?

But what would you do if one of you got picked and the other one didn't?

We would have to go together.

We're a package deal.

Could you imagine one of them having both of you out there?

It'd be, I know, honestly, it'd be good with both of us because, like, imagine they're filming and we're in separate rooms.

We'll have separate partners.

Don't want to.

Oh, no, we're going against each other.

Well, I mean,

we're going whatever.

No, we'd be in two separate rooms matching.

Wouldn't that be iconic?

And it's like, oh, which one's which?

Or we'll.

Have you pitched this idea yet?

Johnny.

Johnny.

Johnny.

Johnny.

Yes.

Yes.

I think we would love to be on Dancing with the Stars.

You could dance.

I actually have a question for you.

Oh, okay.

What is it?

Who would get sent home first for Dancing with the Stars?

But let me ask you this.

You have a dancing background.

Do you also have a dancing background?

A little bit.

They danced.

You girls always danced.

Competitive.

I mean, that's what people don't see.

Like, the girls dance.

And like, we've competitive.

So we both did pageants.

And like, pageants is a little bit like dance where it's like, it's a competition.

It's kind of an individual sport and it's competitive.

I don't know because if you both have a dancing background, I don't know.

Maybe you should go on different seasons.

No, we want to do it together.

Well, I know.

If we did two different seasons, then we could live in LA twice and then I could win, then you could win.

You could both be winners.

Whatever they say.

Whatever, Josh.

As long as they go on.

Josh.

As long as we can get on the show.

Whatever.

Whichever.

But I think it would be really fun together.

No, that would be really fun.

What other shows could you guys picture yourselves on?

I'm trying to think.

Like, would you ever do something like Special Forces or have you heard of that one?

No, I haven't heard of that one.

I think it's on Fox, and you go to like a different country and you do these like crazy challenges.

I know Jamie Lynn Spears was on one where she had to fall backwards out of a helicopter into the ocean.

I don't want to do that.

No, I don't want to do that.

Immediately.

What do you see that show with the bad cooking?

Oh, nailed it.

Nailed it.

That would be funny.

Is that on Food Network?

Someone had

that for us.

Nailed it would be funny because it's just about bad chefs and like i'm a horrible cook um or celebrity family feud would be really talking about that that would be cool because like we have a whole like roster the sisters get them on you know people go with and they said the sisters would do that so why don't you do it why don't you do that next johnny

oh my gosh we put him to work John, I said, how,

what are we going to talk about?

Is there anything that you guys don't want to talk about?

He's like, just talk to them.

They're fine.

Talk to them.

Ask them whatever you want.

I said, okay, fine.

But, okay, so what is is your favorite perfume?

Do you wear the same perfumes?

We hate perfume.

We don't wear perfume.

No, my mom says it's toxins.

It is because they're hormone disruptors.

Yeah.

And she also says that if you wear too heavy of a perfume, you're hiding something.

Yes.

My mom is very specific about she does not like perfume and no candles.

Yeah.

Scented candles.

It's just, again, I follow the medical media protocols and everything he says is true.

I wish I had more time to read his books and to even implement more of his protocols, but the scents are not good.

You know, it gets in your brain.

Whatever mom says.

So I don't like a lot of scents.

Okay.

So perfume, no.

What about like essential oils?

Would that be fine?

I don't know.

I didn't do any research on that.

As long as it's pure and natural, because we breathe in toxins all the time now.

So that's why it's very important, you know, the celery juice, you know, that wild blueberry juice, you know, trying to get as much fruit and vegetables in your body as possible to get rid of the toxins that we have to breathe in and that we're, you know,

subject to.

Hopefully counteracting those

toxins.

You have beautiful skin.

I was on

chemicals to get rid of.

I did Accutane

in order to have,

it was rough.

But you're a writer.

Are you a writer?

Is that true?

I'm a big book girly.

Why would have brought you my books in?

Next class.

I am a big book girly.

I am obsessed.

So, where can people find your books?

So, after I lost my mom, you know, I didn't even want to live.

I mean, I had no experience in writing.

I had

no degree in journalism, but I did have a heart that wanted to help people.

So, I started writing a newspaper column.

Okay.

And it's still been in the paper after all these years.

It's been in like literally half my life.

It's in the paper in Connecticut, the New Haven Register, and it's in other papers around the country that that group owns.

So it's a newspaper column.

And then from that, I wrote three books with real publishers.

I self-published my first one and then did three others with real publishers.

So I think if you go online and you go on Amazon, the books are on Amazon.

No, absolutely.

I would love to like share your books and any way that I can help.

So yeah, I mean, through the years, it's crazy because I've gotten so many beautiful letters through the years from people that have read the column and the books to just help them overcome if they've been through a tragedy or loss.

But they're inspirational books.

Oh, I love that.

Okay, cool.

So, I'll also put them in the description of this episode for you.

But is there anything else that you guys want to share or let the listeners know?

Well, we do have something for you.

Thank you.

The diamond crown.

Is this one of the necklaces?

Yes, she's a sister.

She's a matching.

She's got her matching.

She's matching.

Oh my gosh, I know.

So we have the rose gold, and this one is gold.

If you gold.

Oh, I do wear gold.

Okay, then take the gold.

Okay.

The box.

We also have silver.

And we also have silver.

We design them and then we wear them on the show.

So, you know, you see them on the show.

I saw them on the show.

You can put on for yourself.

Oh, I'm going to wear this.

I'm going to do a video on it.

Actually, can I put it on?

We can do a video for us.

I know you could tag the Diamond Crown Collection on Instagram.

Because when we found out that we were getting the show, I was like, oh, you know what?

We should have something that people could feel that they're a part of us.

I love that.

So,

yeah.

I'm trying to figure out what we're doing.

They can get the matching.

And then we're all matching.

Alessandra's going to open it for me while

she designed the whole thing.

I mean, I have sold products on QVC for many years, Inspirational of Nature.

So I had a manufacturer.

So Gabriella literally drew the emblem that you'll see, the crown.

Yes.

And from that,

he made the sample.

Yeah, I love a thick chain.

Like, the thick chains are super modern.

I used to wear like this product necklace.

I was like a thick chain.

And then I love like a triangle shape.

I think it's also very modern.

The diamond is my birthstone.

And then the crown, you know, we did pageants and like whether you're going to wear a crown on your head or wear it on your chest.

Like it just, it's kind of like a confidence piece.

It's also just like bougies up an outfit.

Like even if you're going to be casual, you're going to look bougie with the necklace on.

Right.

I want to see that.

Like this is like, my mom's like, oh, this outfit's kind of dull.

And I'm like, but put the necklace on.

And it's another one.

That brings it all together.

I love that.

I'm going to put it on.

You can even, yep.

You can even put it on like any of the chains.

Like you can adjust it, make it more of a choker.

Where can people find you on social media?

Obviously, we want the accounts to grow.

We want people to be able to find you.

Tell us where we can find you.

So you can find me on Gabriella underscore Vigorito on TikTok and Instagram.

And are you on social media or is it just her accounts?

I'm on Instagram, Catherine Golasso Vigorito on Instagram.

I love that.

Thank you so much for coming on the Barely Famous podcast.

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