Unfiltered Conversations with Sterling: Part 2

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Speaker 8 Welcome to the shit show. Things are going to get weird.

Speaker 8 It's your favede villain, Kale Lauer.

Speaker 8 And you're listening to Barely Famous.

Speaker 8 Welcome back to part two with Sterling on Barely Famous. If you missed it, part one with Sterling aired on January 10th.

Speaker 8 It's two episodes back, so feel free to go catch up on that one before you listen to this one.

Speaker 8 But if you've already listened and you're back for part two i hope you love this one just as much switching gears changing gears also um we have matching cars now we do and matching tattoos and matching we do have matching tattoos we do oh okay nipples i my legs are hairy we got those in 2016 2016.

Speaker 8 that was an incredible year

Speaker 8 we were off our rockers no no no we were insane i had five boyfriends that year you did i had several actually when we got these tattoos my very first boyfriend ever came to the shop to the tattoo shop, Terrell.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh, he did. I did hear about that.
Did you know that was my first tattoo? Yes. That was my very first tattoo.

Speaker 8 Shout out to Paul Terrell.

Speaker 8 He actually just started a podcast of his own where he's tattooing for the podcast. Like, that's the podcast is people, because they're like therapists.

Speaker 8 You know, when you go get your hair done, your hair is your, your hairstylist is your therapist, right? But same way with tattoos. Yeah.

Speaker 8 So his whole like idea for the, I was like, Paul, you shouldn't be paying for a podcast.

Speaker 8 Like, I should sign you to my network for that it did he we just haven't talked about it from there but other people on this network yeah you do yeah who alessandra's on it i just signed caitlin and ty from teen mom oh really yeah they're launching next month okay so it's not this isn't your podcast name this is your network killer killer network is my podcast company Killer Network podcast company.

Speaker 2 This podcast is called

Speaker 8 barely famous, but it's under the killer network.

Speaker 2 all three of yours are under killer.

Speaker 8 No, only two. Coffee combos, since it's the like the original podcast, is not under killer.

Speaker 2 I'll need to get me more educated on I don't listen to podcasts. That's okay.
I would like to. I guess I don't know, maybe because my kids are always in the car.

Speaker 8 I don't think yeah, it's weird because like I'm not going to listen to something that my kids shouldn't be.

Speaker 2 Okay, so maybe that's it. I've literally, I think I've only ever listened to maybe one or two podcasts, but it was times that like my kids were not in the car.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Cause I mean, if they're not really kid-friendly, honestly, and it was not even, it was, I think it was when Snookie had a podcast with uh Joey, I think I still have it, they were hysterical.

Speaker 2 I need to say something else. Is it a memory? Yes, it's a memory.
Do you remember when we were in California? I don't think we've ever told anybody this. Maybe one person.
We were in California.

Speaker 2 I don't know if it was for a reunion or if it was for

Speaker 2 the Grammys. And we left that restaurant.
And as we were walking, we both smelt something and looked at each other. Oh my God.
Okay. At the same time.
No. Okay.

Speaker 8 We're filming for Teen Mom.

Speaker 2 Yes, we were filming. Because Tony.

Speaker 8 Larry. No, Tony.
And Larry, they were both there.

Speaker 2 Yes, but Tony was the producer at the time.

Speaker 8 Yeah, so I had this producer, Tony, for me. We loved him.
Yeah, we loved him.

Speaker 8 He was a producer for

Speaker 8 several years before I got a new producer. So we're walking down the street.
This is like, you guys know what episode this is where I'm fighting with my ex over the phone. I'm a horrible mom.

Speaker 2 This was the Grammys. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 8 Yeah. This was the Grammys trip.

Speaker 2 Oh, might I add? They were

Speaker 2 the crew was fuming at us because we were supposed to be up and ready to film at eight o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 And we left them outside until almost noon because we were like, we don't want to do this. And we were just hoping they'd go away.
Sorry. And they didn't go away.
They were sitting there.

Speaker 2 I was like, oh my gosh, we really have to do this. We definitely did that a few times.

Speaker 2 There was a lot of footage that they could not use of us filming together because we would they would tell us to talk about something and we would talk about something completely opposite of your storyline so that they couldn't use it

Speaker 2 because we were just like no we're not or we dead ass look at them and be like we're not talking about that anyways i don't remember there's so we filmed a lot together and they did not use even a fraction of because they're sick of us because we would they would tell me to ask you something and you'd be like i'm not asking i looked i would look at them and be like i'm not asking that no flat out she would be like i'm not doing that like i'm not asking i'm not doing that No.

Speaker 2 I was so defiant. I was like, I'm not doing that.
I was like, she just, I would look at them and be like, can we not make this about the kids, please? Like, why are we still talking about this?

Speaker 8 You would say it just like this.

Speaker 2 I'm still talking about this.

Speaker 2 That's so funny. She's like, my God.

Speaker 8 I'm not asking her that.

Speaker 2 It's like, that happened three months ago. No, literally.

Speaker 8 But that's how it was. Okay, so we're in California for the Grammys, fighting with my ex over the phone, whatever.
We're leaving this restaurant. We actually saw Emma Roberts at that restaurant.

Speaker 8 She sure did. She was sitting next to us and and she's on the phone and she's like, I don't know what they're filming, like talking mad shit.
She probably doesn't remember that.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, hey, Emma. Hey, girl.

Speaker 8 So we're walking down the street and these trees on the street or whatever, it was like, you know, semen has a smell.

Speaker 2 It does.

Speaker 2 It does, right?

Speaker 8 It has a smell. We are walking down the street and we have mics on and we're like, oh my God, do you smell that? That literally smells.

Speaker 2 Our face goes and looked, we made eye contact. It smelled so.
I was like, I literally looked at it. I was like, is someone having sex?

Speaker 8 She said that on the mics. And then Larry and Tony were so upset.
They were like, could not, did not want to have this conversation with us. But we were like, why does it smell like that?

Speaker 2 And Tony was acting all. I was like, you know, you know what that smells like.

Speaker 8 I think you said that to him.

Speaker 6 I did.

Speaker 2 That's why people didn't like me.

Speaker 2 I feel like that's why people don't like me because I'm very, I come very honest.

Speaker 8 Why does it smell like semen?

Speaker 8 Why does it smell like semen outside?

Speaker 8 and it says some trees release chemicals that can make the air smell like semen so we weren't crazy no we weren't crazy but people were calling me crazy because i've talked about it like sparingly throughout my life since then i will never forget that moment have you smelled it since then never have i ever smelled it again no i've definitely i mean you have seven kids i smell semen pretty often

Speaker 2 i mean

Speaker 8 it also if you let someone not pull out you will smell like a dead body i'm sorry what what did you just say

Speaker 2 What did you just say?

Speaker 8 If you have sex with someone and they don't pull out, it smells horrible.

Speaker 8 No, you like hours later, if you're not, even if you shower and it's still kind of dripping out or whatever, you'll smell like a dead body. Oh, I can't even.
We're all celibate here. No, I am.

Speaker 2 It's been almost two years.

Speaker 8 I was just like, no, we're not.

Speaker 2 I was just like, do you see these three kids?

Speaker 8 Oh, I got from no kids to three kids in a year.

Speaker 2 That is crazy. That's an insane tail effect.
Am I going to be pregnant after this podcast? I want to be? No.

Speaker 8 Okay, you're done?

Speaker 8 Yeah. I shouldn't really ask that.

Speaker 2 I think that's a rude question, but I, I, I've always told you this.

Speaker 8 I thought you were going to have twins.

Speaker 2 I wanted twins. I wanted twin boys so bad.
I always said, once Tylie turns 10, I'm done. And she's about to be 13.

Speaker 8 Did you mean it, though?

Speaker 2 Yes, I mean it.

Speaker 8 Like you wouldn't, what if you met someone that you wanted to have a child with? Would you, or would you just, that would be.

Speaker 2 I would let them know right off the bat that I'm not having any more kids. And that's a deal breaker.
Then we'll have

Speaker 2 next.

Speaker 2 Sorry. Fair.
Just because I feel like if I had kids in between Mila and like, like if I had like a five-year-old and like a three-year-old and four kids, I would probably have more.

Speaker 2 But I don't want my two oldest to be like you, like yours are all like, they have all good age gaps. It's not like you have Isaac and one-year-old twins.
Fair.

Speaker 2 Isaac and Lincoln and one-year-old twins.

Speaker 8 Does our sister is what, 10 years older than you? Yes. And then how old are the siblings above her?

Speaker 2 My oldest sister is 13 years older and my brother is eight years older.

Speaker 8 So that's, I mean, those are big gaps.

Speaker 2 So they were all together and then there was what, me by myself. And I hated it.

Speaker 2 I won't, that's why I won't do it because my two right now are growing up together. And if I were to have another one, that one would be by itself.

Speaker 8 So Becky and I recorded a couple weeks ago about Christmas and she said that her Christmases changed pretty quickly.

Speaker 8 So like she was used to it a certain way and then it just stopped because her siblings are so much older than her that she basically was robbed of those same Christmas memories because of the age gap and how they were.

Speaker 2 No, I don't literally don't cry. I've cried about that.

Speaker 8 Because I don't think it's, it wasn't intentional. I think it just happened that way.

Speaker 2 It's because they, you have that family dynamic with

Speaker 2 all those kids. And then when the youngest one comes up, it's like, okay, well, everyone's out the house except for this one.

Speaker 2 And you wake up in the morning, all the things, like the excitement of waking up in the morning and all that, you're doing it by yourself.

Speaker 2 I remember when my siblings were out of the house, I was like,

Speaker 2 I just, everything was just by myself.

Speaker 8 I hated it. Essentially, like only child.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I wanted them, and they're, I mean, my, my young, my oldest nephew is only six years younger than me, and he has a kid.
So I'm a great aunt.

Speaker 8 Okay, we're going to play a little

Speaker 2 game. All right.

Speaker 8 What do you need brutally honest advice about? So answer it for each other. The way I smell.

Speaker 2 Each other?

Speaker 8 Oh, each other.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 8 I'm like, if I smell bad, you need to tell me. One time I was getting botox and sterling told me that i stunk she's like you've always stunk

Speaker 2 what

Speaker 8 that is such a lie no it's not

Speaker 8 what that is not a lie after lux was born i was like oh my god i smell so bad i really think it's like the pregnancy hormones and you were like kale you always smell like that

Speaker 8 Then I like cried to bone and quay about it.

Speaker 2 You're lying right now. Okay, I, you guys, I am very honest.
If somebody, I will, I will tell some, my closest people, I'm going to let you know if you smell.

Speaker 2 I'm going to say, hey, go put on some deodorant.

Speaker 8 I will say at that time, Lux was a newborn. So I probably did always smell like that.
And so it was like hormones like rebalancing because I don't think I stink and I am very self-aware. And I'm.

Speaker 2 No, you never stink. Like, never stink.

Speaker 8 Maybe you were joking.

Speaker 2 I, I think the context of what I was meaning is maybe you've smelled like that all the time because of the pregnancy. What? I don't remember saying that.

Speaker 8 Oh, I do because I was traumatized.

Speaker 2 I'm such an asshole. I'm so

Speaker 8 truly have. Sorry.
That, that is the reason why I am self-aware the way I am today about my smell.

Speaker 2 Okay, repeat the question again.

Speaker 8 But that is not, I answered the question incorrectly. What is one thing the other person needs brutally honest advice about?

Speaker 2 One thing that you need to advise. Wait, brutally honest advice.

Speaker 8 You'll never guess what picture that Kristen just sent me. What? Remember how you just said that we got our nipples pierced in 2016?

Speaker 2 She got got her nipples pierced.

Speaker 8 Can you imagine, Kristen? She sent me mine.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh. I was literally in the parking lot while you went and got that done.

Speaker 8 So these were my, my boobs were really nice.

Speaker 2 Your body was tea that year. That's why you got knocked up three times.

Speaker 8 Four times. Four times.

Speaker 2 That year. Oh.

Speaker 8 Was it? Three times that year. Yeah.
Like within a year, yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh. We could talk for hours.

Speaker 8 Okay, what does she need advice about?

Speaker 2 Okay, what do I need? Okay,

Speaker 2 what do I need advice about?

Speaker 8 Brutally honest advice about? I don't think you need any.

Speaker 2 Really? I'm perfect.

Speaker 8 No, I feel like you're pretty, you're very level-headed and reasonable. I don't, and

Speaker 8 it's the same way I would never offer my advice to Alessandra.

Speaker 8 Like, y'all are very, very level-headed. Like, y'all don't need brutally honest advice.
At all. Like, I can't think of a time where you did.

Speaker 2 I think I could disagree. I think ours is the same.
Men?

Speaker 2 No, I think we both need really honest, brutal honesty

Speaker 2 on

Speaker 2 our smell. Like, I have, like, you have to tell me.
I literally will tell somebody, I will go in your face and be like, please make sure I don't smell. You've done it to me.

Speaker 2 I'm like, please smell my breath. Make sure I don't smell.
And you're like, no, you're good. Or you'll be like, here's some gum.
Yeah. But I feel like both of us, our answer is the same.
Love.

Speaker 2 No, I went to the bathroom and I did the same thing. I always do that.
And then when I'm on the toilet, I'll do this.

Speaker 8 Yeah, because I need to know.

Speaker 2 I need to know what I smell.

Speaker 8 Elijah will be like, did you just smell yourself? And he acts like it's brand new every single time. And I'm like, you've seen me do this 700 times.
Why are you asking me if I just did that?

Speaker 8 I sure did. I'm never going to be in a position again where I need someone to tell me that I stink.

Speaker 2 No. That's.

Speaker 2 I.

Speaker 2 There's nothing worse than being next to somebody that smells. And somebody's breath that smells like somebody just took a dump in their mouth is it my yeah, my nostrils can't handle it.

Speaker 2 And I would, but honestly, like when your breath smells, can you not taste it? I can taste it.

Speaker 2 Like right now,

Speaker 2 I could probably use a mint.

Speaker 8 You had a mint in your mouth the other day.

Speaker 2 I did.

Speaker 2 I eat mints all day.

Speaker 8 That's why.

Speaker 2 I'm so self-conscious and I carry hygiene wipes.

Speaker 8 Alessandra had them in the car for me because I was like, I need a wipe. And she's like, here.

Speaker 2 And I'll do it in the car. I don't care.
No, I don't care. Just a little.

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Speaker 2 Have a great day.

Speaker 8 What's one thing you cherish about your friendship?

Speaker 8 Cherish about the friendship. You're like a sister to me and you're honest with me every time.

Speaker 8 No matter if my feelings are going to be hurt, you're going to be honest.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah. I also love that we pick up where we left off every time.
So I could literally not physically see you for two years or three years, but I know at any given point I could call you. Yeah.

Speaker 8 About anything.

Speaker 2 Agreed. I also could add that I cherish that our

Speaker 8 we have done a good job at even though the distance, how far we live, that our kids love each other still too oh my god i don't think people realize that tyle and isaac are like this they still to this day i'll go upstairs i'm like who are you on the phone she'll be like isaac do you remember when the kids got into the dinosaur digging kit with all the yes it's like the fake um concrete situation yep and um you're like Tylie, did you get into, did you do that?

Speaker 8 And she was like, no. And it was everywhere.

Speaker 2 It was like, you're a terrible liar.

Speaker 2 That was like

Speaker 8 Lincoln got into chocolate and I was like, did you eat some chocolate? And he's like, no. And it's all over his face.

Speaker 2 And you're like, did you ever see when Lincoln was obsessed with saying, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 He'd go, what the fuck? What the fuck?

Speaker 8 What the fuck? What the fuck? And we would just be like, what did you say? Just to hear him say it again. Because he couldn't say the.

Speaker 2 He said, say the cuh. And then he's like, I'm a tow boy.
Oh, yeah. I'm a tow boy.
What the fuck?

Speaker 2 He was the cowboy. I was obsessed with Lincoln.

Speaker 2 He was a little squishy. He still is.

Speaker 8 I wanted to squeeze him.

Speaker 2 And that's why he used to say that to me.

Speaker 8 Me, you want to tissue?

Speaker 2 You want to tissue?

Speaker 8 He'd say that to Mila. Like, I want to kiss her.
Me, you want to kiss her? So he had cuteness aggression. He did.

Speaker 2 He would

Speaker 2 kiss her. He would walk up to her and go,

Speaker 8 he probably have a video somewhere.

Speaker 2 I do kiss her.

Speaker 8 Oh my God, he had cuteness. And I have that with him to this day.

Speaker 2 I'm like, oh, I want to pinch you.

Speaker 8 And he's like, mom.

Speaker 2 I did that to him when we went for Thanksgiving two years ago. I was like, I just want to squeeze you.
He's like, stop. You sound like my mom.

Speaker 8 Which we are.

Speaker 8 Aunt Sterling.

Speaker 2 I, because he's a button. I just want to squeeze him.
You should see Rio. And then my aggression, my, my, with Isaac, it's more like a softness thing.
I'm like, oh, whenever we met, he was four.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I went to his fifth birthday.
Yeah. He was always a baby.
Little baby.

Speaker 8 He was Creed's age. And now he's in high school.
And I'm like, where's the time? Like, he's going to have his license next year.

Speaker 2 Oh, that makes me want to throw up. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Same.

Speaker 2 Don't say that.

Speaker 2 Don't tell me that.

Speaker 8 Yo, yeah. I mean,

Speaker 2 I know she only has one more year of middle school and she'll be in high school. That's so crazy, too.

Speaker 2 Good grief. We're old.
Okay, so yes, reverting back to that, what do I cherish most? I feel like I agree with everything that you just said on top, adding that the kids remain close.

Speaker 2 And I also, on top of the fact that we always can pick up where we left off, is that I feel like people would never, ever guess like our conversations we have.

Speaker 2 Because what we've ever anything we've ever filmed is nothing like what our friendship is. No, absolutely not.
No, we in like the laugh until we pee, you always pee.

Speaker 2 I still do. I always cry.
And the cry.

Speaker 8 I wear diapers now.

Speaker 2 Good. No, in real life.
No, I remember you had one on at the show. I did.
You did. You couldn't tell.

Speaker 8 Thank God.

Speaker 2 Yeah, your butt just looked really good.

Speaker 2 It was the diaper. It was a diaper butt.
Like, I could, we could do this literally for hours. I literally.

Speaker 8 So finish the sentence. You're You're the only person I can blank with.

Speaker 2 Shower with.

Speaker 8 Would you shower with me? We have to.

Speaker 2 Shower.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I was going to say we probably have. Yeah, I would say you're the only person I can shower with.
Besides Elijah, obviously.

Speaker 2 Shower.

Speaker 8 You're the only person that would literally let, like, dig into my vagina. If I had to.
Yeah. Like, if I ever lost a tampon in there and I needed help, I'd call you.
Dig it out.

Speaker 8 If I needed to shave

Speaker 8 and I couldn't get to crevices, I'd call you.

Speaker 2 I'm fully probably going to be bathing you here in the next couple of days. True.

Speaker 8 Will you empty my drains? Yes.

Speaker 2 Okay. I'll do whatever you need.
Shower, what else?

Speaker 2 I also

Speaker 8 dig my toenails out.

Speaker 2 I'll dig your toenails out. I also feel like it's a very

Speaker 2 not talked about enough topic is people that you travel with.

Speaker 2 I,

Speaker 2 when I go on vacation with people, I don't, I really, actually, let me revert back. I...
Don't go on vacation with people.

Speaker 2 You're really the only person that I really go on like a true out-of-the-country vacation with.

Speaker 8 And we have fun. We make the best of it, even if it's a shitty situation.

Speaker 2 But you kind of have to go on vacation with people that are on the same level with you financially. Yes, 1,000%.
Otherwise, it's not an equal trip.

Speaker 2 And I feel like that's why we've been able to travel together because we pay for our own stuff.

Speaker 8 You and I have never fought about that.

Speaker 2 That's another rumor. You pay for all my trips.

Speaker 8 No, we fight about who's going to pay for stuff. We pay for stuff.
And I've even fought with your mother.

Speaker 2 You lose that battle every time.

Speaker 8 Every time. But your mom is never going to let me pay for anything.
But what I'm, I say all that to say I agree because I think there's resentment builds.

Speaker 8 And I don't mean that in a way that's like, oh, I have more money than you. I don't mean that.

Speaker 8 Not you. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Like in general, like for people.

Speaker 8 Like

Speaker 8 you do, there is a resentment or the person that does have the funds wants to go do all these things and the person that doesn't have the funds is, you know, feeling like they can't say they don't have the funds or they're not having a great time because they can't, you know, keep up with the joneses and i don't love that and i don't ever i would rather say no to a vacation altogether if i'm not on that same level for that reason and i feel that as the person who

Speaker 2 can

Speaker 2 do all those things

Speaker 2 i know i know you are like this so i'm speaking for both of us i know i'm like this i'm like well i'll just cover

Speaker 2 it

Speaker 2 because I want you, I want us all to enjoy it.

Speaker 8 I want us all to have a good time. But I don't hold it against people.
Right.

Speaker 2 But I know other people do. But I also like, it makes it, I feel like more for me, like going on vacation with somebody equal financially,

Speaker 2 it's hard to, I feel like I spend a lot of time trying to make them feel comfortable like it's okay. Yeah.
And I feel bad because I feel like they feel like they're a burden. Yes.

Speaker 2 And that in itself is kind of draining. But like I obviously might, out of the kindness of my heart, like I'm like, it's fine.
I'll do it. Like I'm not, like you said, not holding it against you.

Speaker 8 But some people do though. And I think that's where there was, like, you and I have done vacations with people.

Speaker 2 That's a cool thing.

Speaker 8 Yeah, for both parties, truly. Because once you like keep making it a thing, it becomes draining for the person who's willing to pay for it.

Speaker 2 Because then, I mean, not all people, but some people end up being like, I mean, well, like going to dinner with people. Oh, well, Kel will get it.
She'll cover it.

Speaker 2 Oh, I'll go to dinner. And we've talked about this.
I grew up like, oh, well, we'll just go with Sterling because she'll take care of it. You know, and it's like, I don't know.
Like, and I, feel like

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 8 At some point, when you realize it, you're like, oh, this is not okay. And this is exhausting.
At first,

Speaker 2 you don't realize. Am I paying for this friendship? Right.

Speaker 8 You're like, am I funding this friendship?

Speaker 2 I think so.

Speaker 8 Well, I just

Speaker 8 pay for it in hush money and cars. So when you need a new car, just, I guess, call me.

Speaker 2 You've done a lot of things.

Speaker 2 I think I need a new car.

Speaker 2 I need a vacation soon. Actually, I need a new house.

Speaker 8 Imagine. Could you see yourself moving out of this house?

Speaker 2 I think we have one more move in our life, maybe. Really?

Speaker 8 Would you stay in the Dallas area? Like where you live?

Speaker 2 No, for sure. Stay in the Dallas area.
I want more

Speaker 2 lake land. Yeah.
I like the size of my house.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I think it's perfect.

Speaker 2 It's actually might be,

Speaker 2 I don't know, maybe a little too big for the three of us. But I mean, one day I'll be married, so there'll be four people in here.
That's true. That is true.

Speaker 8 Maybe you could build one instead of buying.

Speaker 2 I've thought about it, but it's like...

Speaker 8 It's more expensive to do it, but I definitely think...

Speaker 2 The thought of moving makes my head spin. Okay.

Speaker 8 And what ways do you think your differences complement each other?

Speaker 2 Wow. I think our whole conversation has been that.

Speaker 8 It has come full circle this whole episode.

Speaker 2 In what ways do our differences complement each other? I feel that there's a good balance because...

Speaker 2 What qualities that Cale has, mine's the opposite, but in a way it balances out.

Speaker 8 I'm a hothead. I I always have been.

Speaker 2 You get, I feel like you get a lot more stressed out. I get worked up.
Worked up. Yes.
And I'm like, I don't.

Speaker 8 Level-headed.

Speaker 2 A little more level-headed, maybe. Yes.
Not in a sense of like, I'm better than you. I probably.

Speaker 8 No, in a hothead in a way that I get like super flustered. I get super worked up.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, calm down. Do you get upset about that though?

Speaker 8 You're like, is it really upsetting?

Speaker 2 Is it really upsetting or is it, or is something else bothering you that made this upset you more?

Speaker 8 Let's get introspective.

Speaker 2 Because I feel like every time people are upset with something, there's always something that was before that caused them to be more upset. To set them off.

Speaker 8 Yes. 100%.

Speaker 2 Like you're set off. Okay, something else happened.

Speaker 8 Yeah, because it's not that deep.

Speaker 2 It's not that deep. Right, right, right.

Speaker 2 Like when Tylie is like in a bad mood and she says it's something, I'm like, okay, let's reel it in. There's something else that happened.
100%.

Speaker 2 Before that, because you would not be this upset over that.

Speaker 8 No, I agree. I had nothing to add to that one.
Okay, I don't think.

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Speaker 8 Is there a Buckeys around here?

Speaker 2 The closest Bucky's from my house is probably 25 minutes.

Speaker 8 So where I'm going before I leave.

Speaker 2 Yeah, let's go. Okay.
I'll take you to Bucky's. Okay.

Speaker 2 Bring your wallet. You're going to spend a lot of money there.
Can't wait. You have to get the beaver nuggets.
Oh, the beaver nuggets.

Speaker 2 I love, I will say that reading, my vocabulary has expanded.

Speaker 8 What are you reading right now?

Speaker 2 I haven't read anything in the month of December yet. Okay.
I and I, this is the first month I haven't read. Oh, we're Kindle girlies now.
I know. I am such a Kindle girly.

Speaker 2 I don't even have this whole copy. Okay.

Speaker 8 Here's the thing: is that so? I do. See, here's where I'm like toxic.

Speaker 8 I have to, if I love it, I have the means.

Speaker 2 So why not?

Speaker 8 I

Speaker 8 have to, if I love it, I have to buy the physical copy of it to have on my shelf. I feel that.
So like if I read it on

Speaker 8 Kindle, like I read one that was on Kindle Unlimited,

Speaker 8 or I don't know if it was on Kindle Unlimited, but it's called Such a Quiet Place by Megan Miranda. Read it, ate it up in like less than 24 hours.

Speaker 2 I'm obsessed with that author.

Speaker 8 That was my first book. I haven't read anymore.
Loved it so much that I ordered it on Amazon the next day because I was like, I have to have this on my shelf.

Speaker 8 Because so now I'm like, I'm supporting them on Kindle.

Speaker 8 But here's the thing that I don't love about kindle and maybe if authors have any insight here like i do feel bad because they get like one cent from that purchase so if you buy it on kindle they make like two cents

Speaker 2 but i feel like that's the price that they're paying for allowing it to be on kindle because they have a choice true they do have a choice because like if you think of colleen hoover none of her books are on kindle unlimited okay but if you read frida all of her books are on Kindle Unlimited.

Speaker 2 Then she's got, she's got the funds. She's like,

Speaker 8 she's got the means.

Speaker 2 She's got the means. She's got the means.
She's like, I'm doing great. Here's my books for free.
You bought the Kindle. I don't need a cent.
Y'all are all going to be reading my books.

Speaker 8 I will say this, though. Colleen Hoover, if you're listening, I would love to talk to you when Verity becomes a movie.

Speaker 8 Also, Reminders of Him, because I told y'all that was my favorite book, and so is Verity.

Speaker 2 So those are both on my TBR. And I...

Speaker 8 You haven't read them? I have not read them. First of all, the names.
in Reminders of Him, just the names alone, the character names alone are everything. Ledger, Diem,

Speaker 8 Kenna. Like, these are just like quality, memorable names.

Speaker 2 I read that book. She should have read those books before having seven kids because she would have used them.
No, truly.

Speaker 8 I read that book last year and I still remember the names. Second to that, Verity is the, that name alone is crazy.
That book is insane. And if you have a weak stomach, don't fucking read it.

Speaker 2 I don't have a weak stomach, like at all.

Speaker 8 Did you read it pregnant? No, I waited until after I had the twins.

Speaker 8 Like, I was warned, because there's twins in the book. I was warned to not read it until I gave birth, which I waited until I gave birth.
And then as soon as I gave birth, I read it and I understand.

Speaker 8 I have to read it now. You have to.
That has to be the next book that you read.

Speaker 2 Well, actually, my next book, I want to read

Speaker 2 How My Neighbor Stole Christmas or something like that.

Speaker 8 I actually have a book club live this week on that book. Do you open the book?

Speaker 2 Yeah, the 27th. It's literally soon.
I'll probably finish it in like a day or two. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 My whole book club loved it. Because I brought three books.
You brought three. And my Kindle.
You'll finish that. You'll finish all three of them.

Speaker 8 We got to sit on Book Club Live.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'll read it tomorrow. It's

Speaker 2 going to be on Sunday. I'll have it done by Sunday if I start tomorrow.

Speaker 8 Well, I mean, you have a whole week anyway. So if we end up getting it.

Speaker 2 I went and it's like really,

Speaker 8 I didn't read it, but I said I, because I've heard so many good things about it. My book club loves it.

Speaker 2 I want to read it. And I, just for how cute the cover, I juggle, I judge a book by its cover.
I will

Speaker 8 books a chance if the cover is ugly, but I also will buy a book because it's nice.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then the book sucks. And I'm like, well, I guess it looks pretty on my shelf.

Speaker 2 Speaking of you having, you buying books, that's your toxic trait, even though you have a collection.

Speaker 8 Elijah, one time, was so upset at the cost of a book, an audio book, because I was like, if you want to read, like, maybe try listening. And he was just like, I think it was like $17.

Speaker 8 And he was so, he was like, $17, like for an, like, he couldn't understand. So now the running joke in Book Club is like, don't let Elijah see the price of the book.

Speaker 2 That's a little bit of a break. Everything $99.
I always round it up. So you're not fooling me, honey.
When it says $19.99, I'm like, it's $20. Tyler's like, no, it's $19.
I'm like, it's

Speaker 2 $20.

Speaker 8 But what were you about to say? The books?

Speaker 8 Do you have a library?

Speaker 2 No, okay. So I do have a little bit of a shelf, but I really

Speaker 2 pick it up. It's literally

Speaker 2 five of them on there. That's fine.

Speaker 2 I wanted to buy you a book for Christmas, a couple of books. I did, but you have so many.
I didn't know which ones you had.

Speaker 2 I wanted, but I wanted to get you the collector, like the author's, like the collector's edition of them.

Speaker 8 Well, I have a special shelf for my collector's edition.

Speaker 2 But it's books that I've read that I love that I don't think you've read yet. But I think you have them on your shelf.
What are they? Have you read the Knock Them Out series? No. By Lucy Score? No.

Speaker 8 They're like 600-page books? Yes.

Speaker 2 There's three of them. There's things we never got, or things we

Speaker 2 never got over. Things we hid from the light, and things we left behind.

Speaker 8 No, I have not read them.

Speaker 8 Are they collector's edition?

Speaker 2 They have collector's edition, but I know you don't like extreme spicy books. Are they spicy? A little bit, but they're like, I can have a little.
They're not like, you know, I like dark romance.

Speaker 8 I like it. Have you read Still Beating?

Speaker 2 No, but that's my TBR.

Speaker 8 Wild Ride. I've heard.

Speaker 2 One of my friends ate that book up. She loved it, but I also loved Credence.
So

Speaker 8 did you read Credence? Absolutely not.

Speaker 8 We can't do smut.

Speaker 8 She's a reader, too. Brother and cousin fucking or whatever.

Speaker 2 No, they are not related. What? They're not even related.
What's happening?

Speaker 8 That's what I worked on TikTok Center and I couldn't do it. And I took a trick up TikTok recommendation the other day and I'm still pissed about it.
And it is sick to my stomach.

Speaker 2 Oh, I ate Cradence up. I like dark.
I like dark romance. I also like a book that's very much of a slowburn and like has a good story.

Speaker 2 Like if you love like a good story, like small town like vibe and like there's like, it's like continuous and it's, you fall in love with the characters in the first book and they make the second book and third book based off of those characters you fell in love with the first book.

Speaker 2 You'll love that book. I loved,

Speaker 2 I don't know why I liked them so much, if I'm being honest. I can't even sit here and tell you, I just liked the story.

Speaker 2 And it wasn't like, yeah, there were some spicy moments, but not like I can handle that. There's some books that are just like every other page.

Speaker 2 You're like, good grief, do they do anything else but have sex? But did you read them?

Speaker 8 Like that? Did you read them one after another? Yes. Okay, so that's I want to start the addicted series, which is like two books.
Me too. I want to start in January.

Speaker 8 So if you want to start, we should try to like buddy read.

Speaker 2 Okay, I want to.

Speaker 2 That's on my TBR.

Speaker 8 Would you ever film a book club episode with me?

Speaker 2 You do this?

Speaker 8 I do this about books only.

Speaker 2 Yeah, let's do it. Period.
To conclude, we talk way too much and sorry.

Speaker 8 If you guys would like another part of, or if you have specific questions for Sterling and we could do another part to this, I will be back in Texas in the coming months.

Speaker 8 So I could, in theory, come back and do a second part to this.

Speaker 8 I loved having you on Barely Famous, and I hope that Alessandra will be able to make this one or two cohesive episodes because I don't know where the lines are. I'm just saying, this was chaotic.

Speaker 2 We are chaotic.

Speaker 8 I love you.

Speaker 2 Thank you for coming on.

Speaker 2 Conversations are all over the place yeah this is normal conversations this is regular but i love you so much thank you and i love you and i'm so glad i finally agreed to this after the 50th time yeah we don't talk about nothing bad

Speaker 2 you y'all you guys real quick she asked me to do this probably 50 times and she was like yeah yeah no i was like i don't think so

Speaker 2 i don't want to talk about drama

Speaker 8 understood we don't have to talk about the drama I'm like, I just like our friendship.

Speaker 2 I feel like people forgot about me.

Speaker 8 Oh, no, they didn't. So I feel like we did did a good job.
Thank you for coming on.

Speaker 2 We're the best podcasters. I love you.

Speaker 8 We're the best podcasters.

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Speaker 8 Okay, so just to give some context, just to be super clear,

Speaker 8 I, Alessandra and I went to Sterling's house the day before my surgery or two days before my surgery. And so I,

Speaker 8 Elijah came to Dallas for two days. His mom watched the babies.
He came to Dallas, took care of me for my surgery until Monday. And then he came back home to take care of the babies.

Speaker 8 I stayed with Sterling. And then I ended up changing my flight early to come home because I was just ready to be home and I just didn't want to burden Sterling anymore.

Speaker 8 But I had so much fun catching up with her. It was the first time I had seen her in two years.

Speaker 8 She came to my house two, two Thanksgivings ago, like we were talking about in the episode. And it was just really nice to have,

Speaker 8 honestly, to reconnect with my friend without my kids because her kids are older now, right? So it was just nice to like reconnect for a little while.

Speaker 8 I did do a post on Instagram asking what questions you had about my procedure. And I know some people were a little bit confused about what I got.

Speaker 8 Originally planned just for the breast reduction, but ended up getting a revision on my tummy tuck scar so that it would be just as low as my C-section incision.

Speaker 8 That being said, I was not fully prepared or aware that it would be a bigger scar than my original one. My original tummy tuck scar went from like hip bone to hip bone, like the pelvis bone.

Speaker 8 You know, the ones that like stuck out when you wore the jeans in the early 2000s, the lower eyes jeans in the early 2000s. It was like, that's where it was.

Speaker 8 Now it more so wraps around more like a full lower body lift than a tummy tuck, in my opinion. That's not what he called it, but that's what it looks like in my opinion.

Speaker 8 And so I don't necessarily think I was prepared for that. So some of the questions that you guys had for me, planning on getting it done too, is there any skin that sags?

Speaker 8 I'm not sure if you mean for the reduction or for the tummy tuck or slash revision. I have no skin that sags whatsoever on me.

Speaker 8 I just want to clarify too, for anyone that's looking to get a tummy tuck or lipo or reduction.

Speaker 8 When you get a tummy tuck, whether it is a revision or your first time, lipo is automatically included in that because in order to give you the results that you need with the tummy tuck, they have to do lipo.

Speaker 8 Like it's not like, oh, you're getting a tummy tuck, tummy tuck and lipo. It's like you're getting a tummy tuck, but the lipo is all automatically included and they probably won't tell you that.

Speaker 8 So that's just that. In terms of loose skin, skin that sags don't have any anywhere, not in my reduction, not in my revision, nowhere.
How affordable was your surgery and the pain level?

Speaker 8 I paid $20,000

Speaker 8 for tummy tuck revisions.

Speaker 8 I don't even know what to call it. Like I keep calling it a tummy tuck revision.
It's not a tummy tuck revision. I guess it was.

Speaker 8 It was a tummy tuck revision because I had a tummy tuck after two kids, but then I had five more children. It caused my muscles to separate above my belly button.

Speaker 8 So there was a bulge above my belly button. He revised it and then he also revised the scars from my previous tummy tuck with my C-section tummy tuck.
So I guess it was like a full revision.

Speaker 8 And then I had the Light Bow 360. Light Bow 360 for me included waist up.

Speaker 8 So it was my upper back lower back my stomach and my flanks did not include anything from the bottom i did not have a fat transfer i did not have a bbl i did not have anything below my waist done and the reduction i paid twenty thousand dollars so i don't know if that answers your question but the pain level breast reduction was not bad at all um i do have a little bit of pain on the side boob area but that was more so from the lipo it's more so from the lipo 360 than it is from the reduction i've had virtually no pain from the reduction itself.

Speaker 8 The most pain that I've had is not from the revision of the tummy tuck or anything related to the breast reduction. It's solely liposuction, has sucked the life out of me.
So that's that.

Speaker 8 How bad is scarring? Well, I will say that I think all the scars related to the reduction and the tummy tuck revision are very, very thin.

Speaker 8 So they're a lot thinner than any scars that I've had previously from pretty much anything.

Speaker 8 There's no real liposuction scars outside of like if you have a chicken pox scar, it might look like that, depending on your skin type.

Speaker 8 So, the scarring isn't bad. I also won't be able to see any of them.
So, in a bathing suit and a thong and underwear, my tummy tuck revision scar will be covered.

Speaker 8 I'm not entirely sure about how the scarring will look with the reduction because, with the reduction comes a lift. So, I do have that anchor lollipop situation.
I'll have to circle back on that

Speaker 8 how bad it scars, or if you can even tell. I typically knock on wood.

Speaker 8 I scar really well, so hopefully, it will be pretty light. I also got these silicone,

Speaker 8 I call them band-aids, like silicone patches. I don't know for all of the scars, my tummy tuck scar and my

Speaker 8 scars from my

Speaker 8 breast reduction. And they go around the nipple, they go down the line to your under boob, and then that full anchor underneath to keep them flat and as seamless as possible.

Speaker 8 Talk about pain level and restrictions. Pain level for liposuction is off the charts.
It's the worst thing I've ever felt in my entire life. And

Speaker 8 restrictions are you, I cannot lift anything more than 10 pounds for six weeks. And that includes my babies, like my small children.

Speaker 8 You also have to sleep on your back or sitting up in a recliner for six weeks as well. So it sounds good in theory, like it might not hurt to lay on your side.

Speaker 8 For me, I can't even try to lay on my side because even when I do, I'm in so much pain.

Speaker 8 But also, I think for purposes of breast reduction or if you do like an implant or something, I think there's also like implications, I guess is the word.

Speaker 8 If you were to lay on your side, I don't know if it would change the pockets or distort your results. I don't really know.
So I'm, I go by the books.

Speaker 8 When I get any medical procedures or if I go on medication, I go exactly by the books. Laying on your back flat or in a recliner for six weeks and nothing over 10 pounds.

Speaker 8 What have you all done to your face and where do you get disport? I've posted where I get disport before on my Instagram. So you'd have to go look through my highlights to see that.

Speaker 8 I actually have not really done much to my face outside of Dysport. I did do...

Speaker 8 filler in my cheekbones one time, but it's not really for me and I don't like the sound of it because it makes this like really weird squirting sound and I absolutely hate it. It makes me cringe.

Speaker 8 I've done my lips before. I don't have them done currently.
I had them done about a year ago, um, and I don't really touch my face.

Speaker 8 I also have veneers on my teeth, but they're laying on top of my regular teeth, so they were not shaved down at all.

Speaker 8 And unfortunately, I was not able to get liposuction done to my chin this time because he said that it is all skin, so there's nothing to suck out of it.

Speaker 8 I would probably need something like a lower facelift or to have the skin like tucked under my chin, basically. So, I really don't touch my face.
Okay, I did do three

Speaker 8 consultations with different doctors. The pricing is very different.
One of the doctors quoted me $40,000

Speaker 8 and

Speaker 8 including a mesh, like

Speaker 8 bra to keep my boobs up. Out of the three consultations, two,

Speaker 8 here's the thing. One of them suggested yes, I needed it.
And then two of them suggested nothing. They didn't mention any mesh.

Speaker 8 like corset or bra situation. When I went to go see the doctor for my pre-op for for this procedure, he did suggest it in person that I don't recall.

Speaker 8 I'm not saying he didn't mention it on the call, but I don't remember him mentioning it on our consultation. The price points were very, two of them were very similar.

Speaker 8 And then one of them was $40,000. I obviously opted to not go to that doctor.
Why didn't I go to Dr. Miami again? No, honestly, there's no real reason.
I think. I know from experience what Dr.

Speaker 8 Miami's schedule was like.

Speaker 8 And I think that it was not, I didn't ask, but my assumption was based on my last experience was that there was going to be no availability for when I was looking to get it and I actually wanted to get it when I could because I didn't have my four older kids for over two weeks so that was my primarily my first decision making you know situation was like what doctor do I like and then secondly what is their availability did insurance cover it no I did have um documentation for needing a reduction a couple times but I did not opt for insurance I think insurance ended up because I went to a consultation with Dr.

Speaker 8 Obang in LA before too. So I guess that's four consultations.
And he did run it through my insurance back at that time.

Speaker 8 But then I ended up not getting any procedures done. So I like postponed and then I just kept postponing.
Thankfully, I waited because now I'm officially done with kids.

Speaker 8 And at that time, I think I had less children as well. I did go through insurance that time.

Speaker 8 And I cannot remember if it was denied or if it was that they only covered like a really small percentage of it. I just want to know how long the recovery is and how you're feeling.

Speaker 8 So, as of this recording, I'm two weeks, a little over two weeks post-op. And

Speaker 8 when I'm sitting down for a long time, I do have a hard time standing up straight.

Speaker 8 When I get up to walk, and I walk a little bit slower, it is very difficult still, two weeks later, to get in and out of my car, but I do have to drive. I'm no longer on any pain meds.

Speaker 8 Sometimes I take ibuprofen as needed, but I'm not on any muscle relaxers. I'm not on narcotics.
I'm not, I do take Arnica. That's a personal choice.

Speaker 8 Arnica is for like bruising, swelling, that sort of thing. How long is recovery? I mean, I don't know.
I think it varies by person. I will say that my incision itself does not hurt at all.

Speaker 8 I did lose feeling in my stomach from my belly button down to the top of my vagina in 2016 after my first tummy tuck. So I have no feeling there at all.

Speaker 8 So I think that's why I also don't feel my incision. The lipo is by far the worst, worst, worst, worst part.

Speaker 8 How many sizes did you go down? I went for, I went from anywhere between a 36 and a 40 triple D.

Speaker 8 And I only say that because my back size obviously grows and shrinks with my weight loss and it fluctuates so much that, as you guys know, that's your back size.

Speaker 8 And then the cup size was, has remained pretty consistently a triple D. And I went down to a small slash full C.
I'm a 54 triple D. How about is the pain? Honestly, oh, sensation in my nipples.

Speaker 8 And do you lose any sensation in your nipples? Yes, right off the bat. I lost it, but it is starting to come back.
That is not the case for everyone.

Speaker 8 And that goes for a regular boob job without a lift. And that, I think it's just in general, depending on the, your body.
So you can't really make your decision based on someone else's.

Speaker 8 I know someone that has a boob job, no lift, no reduction, no nothing, just a regular boob job with implants. That is it.
And she lost all sensation in her nipples. And that was over 10 years ago.

Speaker 8 So I, you can't really.

Speaker 8 One size doesn't fit all here. That's really all the questions that there is.
What is a lip flip? That's with Dysport. That's completely separate than surgery.
Did you get drains?

Speaker 8 If so, are they uncomfortable and scary? How is the removal? I had one drain and it was on the left side of my revised tummy tuck incision.

Speaker 8 And I lost all feeling from my belly button down to the top of my vagina, not top of my vagina, my pelvic bone, my pubic bone.

Speaker 8 And so when they pulled the drains out, I didn't even feel it. I actually think we might have a video of it and Alessandra can edit that or something.

Speaker 8 I don't know because I think I took a video of that. It does not hurt, just the one drain.

Speaker 8 And they basically make the decision on when to pull it out based on how much fluid is collecting in your drain. So you have to, I think, by the my post-op appointment, my drain had like less than 15.

Speaker 8 I think it's MLs in it. And so they were able to take it out, but it's not scary.
It doesn't hurt. It doesn't bother.
You just, they clip it onto your clothing.

Speaker 8 And so in those first few days, pre, in those first few days post op you're pretty down and out of it from the meds so it won't you won't even be affected at all and then

Speaker 8 last one

Speaker 8 who did your lip lift

Speaker 8 i never had a lift i never in my life had a lip lift i don't even know what that is Your surgery before Christmas or after Christmas. I did my surgery on December 21st.

Speaker 8 It was a Saturday and I paid extra for that. And that's really it.
Do I love my results? I don't know because I'm still swollen. You'll swell from three to six months post-op.

Speaker 8 By six months, you're pretty much at your new baseline. So, I'm still really swollen, and I literally wearing a bra puts an indent where my ribs are because of the swelling.

Speaker 8 So, I take my bra off sometimes and just like let it go back to normal. Um, outside of that, if you have any other questions, I'll probably be posting a ton of stuff on TikTok.

Speaker 8 I'm an open book about it.

Speaker 8 Um, make sure you have a support system in place because this time around was so emotional mentally for me, it was very lonely in my thoughts, just about like the body dysmorphia in general, but also about

Speaker 8 it's lonely because nobody can understand the pain that I'm going through. Nobody can understand the looking at my body and seeing it mutilated before the results are finished.

Speaker 8 Nobody can understand how hard it is to shower and how humbling it is to shower that first two weeks after your surgery. Like, I mean, it was rough.

Speaker 8 I, uh, Elijah actually took a video of me directly after surgery. Or I think it was like the next day.
I don't even remember.

Speaker 8 and i was so out of it and just like completely emotional but he was like what do you want for breakfast and i was like i don't remember what i said and i was like make sure you order the boys breakfast first of all they weren't even there so like you're gonna feel all kinds of shit that like you don't even expect or whatever like it is truly especially the older you get the more kids you have i think also plays a factor.

Speaker 8 So I just want to prepare you mentally. I did have lymphatic massages done after my procedure.

Speaker 8 And the woman that did my lymphatic massages in dallas literally told me she had a patient she didn't tell me who obviously hip a violation she told me she had a patient that went on suicide watch because of how traumatic and lonely obviously not for everybody but sometimes you know it just literally opens the floodgates for a lot of different feelings.

Speaker 8 And I did not have that experience the first time I got a mommy makeover in 2016. I will say that those 10 days post-op while I was still in Miami, I was very, very emotional.

Speaker 8 But by the time I got home, I was fine. Like I didn't even think twice about my surgery.
This time around, I have cried at least every other day.

Speaker 8 So, and I'm two weeks post-op and I've been home since before I was supposed to come home. So I will say if you're traveling out of the state, they do recommend 10 days wherever that is.

Speaker 8 So when I was in Miami, they recommended 10 days. When I went to Dallas, they recommended 10 days

Speaker 8 because you do, you should go to your post-op appointment.

Speaker 8 And also just like the blood clots and being able to move around, that's like a big part of it, is you have to move around, even if you don't want to, if you're sore. And I will say that

Speaker 8 getting up from any position, whether it's laying down or sitting down, can be a little bit difficult. I'm two weeks post-stop and it's still hard.

Speaker 8 And then it's suggested that you wear your compression garments for as long as you can tolerate. I think it's for blood clots, not entirely sure, but that's all I have really.

Speaker 8 And if you guys have any other questions, let me know.

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