Bad Examples-Barely Filtered

Welcome to the shit show.

Things are going to get weird.

It's your favede villain, Kale Lower.

And you're listening to Barely Famous.

All right, fuckers, welcome back to another episode of Barely Famous Podcast.

I'm sitting with Tracy and Jessica, the co-host of the Bad Examples podcast.

I'm very excited to be here.

This is wild.

This is the collab nobody knew they needed, but everybody fucking needed.

Well, I'm ready for it, and I'm so excited.

If you guys don't know who Tracy and Jessica are, they first started on Jersey Licious, which was what year?

Do you guys remember that?

2000.

It's 15 years this year.

So you guys started on Jersey Licious when I started Teen Mom.

Yes.

Roughly the same time.

Because I remember.

When was Teen Mom?

What year was it?

2010.

Holy shit.

2009, 2010.

Wow, they were really up in that reality game together.

The peak of reality

for sure.

So now you guys have bad examples podcast, but catch me up to where you guys are today.

And did you guys become friends before the show or after?

Okay, so this is the funniest thing.

The first day I ever filmed the show, Jessica came on as an extra and she sat in my chair.

And I was like, I am in love with this girl.

I need her to be like an extra on our show all the time.

Like I preached her to all the producers over and over.

I was like, you've got to keep bringing that girl back.

She's so good.

And then they gave her a spin off with.

Do you remember like before filming, before you knew what filming was, like, we were so green to it?

Is that the word?

Green or blue?

You're green.

What does that mean?

You're green to something.

You don't know.

Oh, I didn't even know that.

I've never heard of that.

Okay.

Well, I did.

We're green to this.

You're green to green.

Yeah.

You didn't know.

Like, you didn't know.

And I just remember we're sitting there and they're like, redo it again.

And we're like, what the fuck do you mean?

We did it like seven times.

We had no idea.

Like, oh, the whole show was so fake that everything was staged.

It was like, take two.

We need to put you back in those outfits because we missed a moment.

Like, everything was staged.

So produced.

So produced.

Overproduced.

Yeah.

But I loved her.

We bonded over that.

We were like, what the fuck is this?

Yeah.

You had not met before.

No.

No, it was our first day filming, and she was just an extra there.

And I was like, we got to bring this girl in.

Like, I need extra.

You were, bitch.

You were a fucking extra.

You sat in my chair and then you went to Loo Regina.

You were such an odd extra that they fucking gave you your own show.

I love being that Anne to Larry Cap.

I don't want to be the main event.

No, but she was.

She was so good that they were like, no, we love her.

So you got what you brought, we're brought back.

I call myself the star of the background, you know?

That's exactly what you are.

I love that.

We instantly clicked.

And

from, I mean, we've been friends for so long now.

It's actually insane years.

Yeah.

But we've only known each other in this like weirdness of our life.

We don't know each other outside of filming of any kind.

Yeah.

Because we've always filmed something.

But do you, you guys hang out and you have like a relationship outside?

Yeah, like we're at each other's kids' parties and stuff, but like we're not hanging out like on a Friday.

We film and that's it.

Like our relationship is so like she knows everything.

I think out of all my friends, she knows the most details about the most everything.

Like, cause I tell her everything.

But isn't that so weird?

Yeah.

Because I feel like, and you guys might be able to relate to this.

I feel like so often in this industry, we come across people who we absolutely love, but after you meet them that one time at the event or at the podcast or at whatever you're at, you never speak to them again.

Well, that's why I was so happy that they gave her her own show because I was like, she fucking deserves this.

And then like, we get to continue doing this.

It's so fun.

So, what, what caused you guys or inspired you guys to start Bad Examples podcast?

She did.

We had even know what a podcast was.

I had heard about it.

I don't know if it was before podcasts were out.

Yeah.

I was like, What?

We had no idea.

She's like, No, no, no, there's this thing called a podcast.

And I'm like, okay, what is that?

And she's like, I think we need to do it before it gets too big.

Yeah.

And I was like, oh, whatever it is.

Let me know.

That's so fun.

That's how me and my first co-host started.

She was like, do you want to do a podcast?

I was like, not really.

No, she's the evil genius behind everything.

I'm like, it's pinky in the brain.

I am

truly, me just i just show up

so evil all i do is with her it's so big she doesn't even tell me what we're filming until we're out though i love filming though because you need that it's like the the pantser and the planner yeah i learned one thing from reality tv it was that it's just better to get like the lie the real reaction no for sure scripted as it is you did get raw reaction you can't say raw jersey it's again that was that should have been one of the reactions i saw

so how much of your personal life then blew up because of Jerseylicious?

Like you were, your ex was on there, your, your family, everything was on there.

My family didn't want to be on the show, so they weren't on there.

But like people go up to my mom at Target and they're like, oh my God, you're Tracy's mom.

And she's like,

I don't even post her that often.

So people are really paying attention.

Did people know who you were before you started the show?

And that's how they found you?

It was so weird because I was like kind of popular on MySpace.

Shut up.

Yeah.

So people would come up to me on the boardwalk and they'd be like, are you from MySpace?

And then like, it just like continued to Jerseylicious.

And now it's two girls and now it's bad examples.

And like, it just kind of keeps happening.

So for people who don't know, you guys need to go subscribe to Bad Examples podcast.

But can we talk about two girls one slice really quick?

Oh my God.

And you guys just met Dave and Portnoy or Dave Portnoy.

Yeah, she did, not me.

Oh, how was he, first of all?

Hell.

When I tell you, like, I've done some like kind of cool shit in my life.

Yeah, of course.

I don't care.

I'm not a big celebrity.

no because when i saw it i was like oh they're gonna go to they're gonna go to barstool i she didn't even mention it she's so fucking stupid i i behaved as my mother said because my mother's me she goes you would have thought paul mccartney walked in the way you were behaving really i fucking lost i was so embarrassing i he asked me he goes oh what are you doing here and i went um i'm a pizza influencer like she was i called myself a pizza influencer i'm not a pizza influencer you've never done that in your life

an influencer it's the most embarrassing thing you could say about yourself and he was like cool like i crumbled i was so embarrassing i didn't mention two girls one slice like we have a we do do pizza reviews i didn't mention that i didn't mention

the podcast i didn't mention that i was so embarrassing and cringe and i'm like please god have them cut it out i will say

offer to pay for his food super nice guy he has what the kids call riz oh and that riz jizz i don't yes not the jizz wait is he nice So nice.

He has like daddy energy.

You know what I mean?

Okay, but he seems like such a dick online.

Yeah, but that's what daddy energy is.

It's like he's like

a dick to everybody, except for like, I feel like he'd treat his girl really well.

I can't explain.

He was sexually, it was sexually confusing to me because he is not somebody I normally find in truth.

He's not hot.

And I'm looking at him like, would I fuck Dave Portnoy?

Like, maybe.

I think so.

Yeah.

She called me and she was like, bro,

Dave is standing next to me.

I am such a weirdo and also like daddy energy did you just

laura do you own the restaurant no i was reviewing i was doing it literally she was in the middle of the pizza and he even is his own review two girls one slice is pizza review yeah and why why did you start that question so okay so we um i have been doing restaurant reviews for like a really long time now because restaurants will pay you to come and you know promote it online.

Hit me up.

Why didn't I know about that?

Right.

No, no, no.

They pay you big money for, yeah, to go eat for free and post.

Did we do that?

Yes.

You you should come with us.

It's fun.

Okay.

So then I was like, Jess, like we should be doing this for pizzerias because pizzerias, like after um, like COVID, I felt like they needed like the boost.

That's why Dave did it, small businesses.

So I was like, we should do this.

So we get paid to go to pizzerias, eat their food, and make videos and whatever, and post it on our pages.

So I was like, let's come up with a name for us because all these other people, like pizza reviewers, they all have like cute little like MySpace names.

So I was like, come.

So she asked our following on bad examples, like what we should come up with.

And we got all these ideas or whatever.

and she goes i settled on two girls one slice and i remember being like i feel like that's a porn like two girls one something and i looked it up do not no no no look it up i abort mission never heard about it again no and it's never been talked about because once you do you'll never be the same no it'll live it'll be your roman empire

so now we go by two girls one slice and every time we say it it's almost like our icebreaker because they're like wow what a great name so they think we're lesbians because they're like it's she's got to be if they're doing two two girls, one slice.

And I'm like, no, it's just because neither of us can finish a full slice of pizza.

So, we just share one.

Yeah.

So, we take one bite of every food that we try, but

yeah, two girls, one slice, and now they refer to us as two girls.

Oh, that's like, is two girls coming?

Like, that's wait, yeah.

So, again, I've done some cool stuff in my life.

The pizza review is not supposed to be that cool.

I'm at Chuck E.

Cheese with my kids, and a man comes up to me.

Hey, Jessica.

I'm like, Yeah, he goes, From two girls, one slice, and I'm embarrassing.

Yeah, you're like, I'm a pizza influencer.

Come on.

Did you make a video with David?

Dave?

Dave?

She was in his review that he does for Barstool.

It's so

embarrassing.

Did you ever talk to him since?

Did you get his contact information?

Did I get his contact?

I had a lisp.

I listed it.

You said it with a lisp.

I thought you were just joking.

No.

She was like, I'm a pizza influencer.

Like, like weird.

You do it one more time.

A pizza influencer.

He's like, oh, so what do you do?

And I'm like, I eat pizza.

Like,

I'm here supporting you girls.

He's so stupid.

And he's just like, okay.

Like, he was horrified by me.

Who wouldn't be?

I'm horrified that I had to witness it in his parcel.

I did a runway show with little Kim.

Like, I've done a lot of funny.

I did cool shit in my life.

Dave Pournay is the one that just

took me out.

And I'll never be the same.

And then I couldn't sleep.

So I'm like, he'll never be the channel.

Because he comes in with the camera.

You guys heard it, right?

I know he follows the pizza.

you know he's got the camera guy yeah so my whole reaction

no uh yeah that's all i'm thinking i couldn't sleep at night i'm like oh my god

no this took her what would her destiny if you were there what would you

have been like me and him would have been besties by the end of the time i kept saying to her i was like i wish that i was there just so we didn't look so fucking useless like because i really like i don't get weird

i really don't like i was at parties with kardashians nobody makes me like awkward like that and i feel like dave is like chill like he just wants someone someone who doesn't make him feel weird.

And she was like, explain that we love each other.

Did you guys like the pizza?

Was it good?

Yeah, it was Spinacho.

Where was it?

Spinachio.

That was the other thing.

I'm in North Haledon, New Jersey, like a place I've never been in my whole life.

That was what it was.

Where's he on?

I don't know, but he.

We don't expect you to.

Oh, don't worry.

I did ask him, Show, what brings you into town?

What am I?

I wish she was joking.

I want, can you please say,

hey, fuckers, welcome back to another episode of Barely Famous.

Hey, fuckers, welcome to another episode of Barely Famous.

What brings you into town?

What am I?

A 50-year-old woman?

I have no game.

What brings you into town?

No.

Do I want to fuck Dave Fortnite?

I don't know.

Guess what?

I have no shot of it.

I blew it.

Yeah.

No, but in the comments, they were like...

The girl in the back with the brown hair is an eight or a ten or whatever they were saying about you.

Like,

yeah, I would take that.

I'd be like, like, repost.

repost re-tag you at least

like commenting on it he thinks he thinks i'm a i sit at that pizza place and he pizza all day like he has no idea no we're gonna reach out to him listen david dave davey if you're listening jessica is more than just a pizza influencer yeah It's fine.

He'll know now.

We're going to tag him

until nobody can deny that he saw it.

You know what I mean?

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But you guys are so open on your podcast.

You talk about everything, which is very much on brand for me.

I talk about shitting my pants.

I talk about anal.

I talk about all the things.

You know what I mean?

And the shitting my pants is not associated with the anal.

Oh, okay.

I didn't know about it because of the anal that you were shitting me on.

No, didn't know.

The anal story is pretty cool.

Thought I needed to spice up my life.

New anal?

First time anal?

Second, second time.

And this time,

well, I was, he was in it and I was like, I just don't like, this isn't for me.

And he goes, I never wanted to do fucking anal.

Oh, and so there was no conversation.

There was just like insert.

Well, so some, like, I was like, let's spice up our life.

Let's do anal.

Oh, okay.

And he was like, if you want, micro talks.

He was like, if you like it, I love it kind of thing.

And so we did it.

And then when we did it, and he was in my butt behind me, I was like, I don't know if I like this.

And he's like, I never wanted to do fucking analog.

I never wanted to be here.

Thank you.

And I was like, oh, wow.

But then the shitting of my pants is on really.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

So thank God for that.

So I have a question because I offered my my anal virginity um on my wedding night anal virginity alessandra had literally just said that she will offer it up on her wedding night but do you really want to be having anal on your wedding night that's what happened is we got there and we were like this feels inappropriate and then i was like

like we'll do it on the honeymoon and then like

i chickened down on the honeymoon i couldn't did he want to do it He was kind of like, he was like, okay, I will do it, but I'm also not like, I don't need it.

I think guys get weird and nervous to ask for anal.

analytics.

But I really think that people lie about liking it.

I'm not saying

she has a friend who strictly like her bumble account should say anal only.

I don't believe

anal.

I don't believe it.

I feel like women are saying that to attract men.

Oh, no.

Like pick me energy.

Yes, because

they have a way that they like it.

I mean, it did absolutely nothing for me.

How'd you get?

How'd you get it in?

Like we used lube.

Like a shit.

It was expired, but we used it nonetheless.

We knew lube expired.

Expired lube?

Yeah.

What does it mean expired?

Can it lubey?

I don't know.

I don't typically use lube, but we just, it was a gift.

Like, someone sent it to me as a brand deal sort of deal.

Yeah, I have that.

And it was expired.

It's in my drawer still.

I have yet to use it.

I hope that it isn't bad to use when it's expired.

I'm like, I don't need a butt fungus or something.

I don't know what's going on.

Can you please?

I told you this episode, butt fungus.

I told my best friend that if she

eats someone's ass, she'll get E.

coli.

Is that true?

I also told her.

I told you.

I was thinking.

But I told them.

I told her it gets too close to your eye.

I don't want anything.

So, butt play is not really pass on, yeah.

No, no, I'm not into butt play.

Yeah, and so I asked my friend yesterday, I was like, Hey, like, what do you think about anal?

And he was like, I don't have any interest in that, like, I'm not into it.

So, I do think that people are lying about it.

Do you want to know a Tracy hot tip for butt play?

I'm so sorry.

Did you stick a finger in it first?

No, no, no.

I okay, so what happened was I learned from men that say that when you are in doggy, that they're literally staring at your asshole.

Yes, the whole time.

100%.

I hope you wiped well.

So, no.

Small, the smallest one you can get, butt plug.

Diamond.

Little pretty.

She puts a diamond in her ass.

I just diamond in her ass.

Because if you're going to stare at something, it should be like glistening.

Glistening.

It shouldn't be the wrinkles of my ass.

Right.

Like a starfish.

No, I get that.

Something pretty, like a little rose, maybe.

I don't know.

But do you not feel like you have to poop the whole time?

No, no, it's so small.

They have like different size.

They have like a really skinny one.

Should I order one?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, no, just glimmer it up a little.

Okay, so do you insert insert it before doggy or how does that work just so yeah i would i'll probably just start like if i know like he's the big doggy guy i'm like all right let's get it in there like before you have sex yeah so does he know you're putting it in or do you just like there's a diamond in there so should i there is like take a shower put in the butt plug and then initiate

okay i actually love that just bend it over because when he just sees that he's like wow something nice to look at I just feel like there's no way these men are getting turned on by like the wrinkles in your ass all bleached or not there's no way have you bleached yours i haven't i don't need to but i don't think that

i feel like a little a little spark will never hurt anybody i agree i would agree with you i would and you guys talk about this stuff on your podcast thank god because yeah because we feel like there's a lot of girls who can't that don't have friends like that so they need somewhere to talk i don't have zero filter so and people love it or hate it yeah yeah well the ones who love it like are really thankful that they're like oh we spend our drive to work laughing at you guys and like being like yes girl like and then the other ones are like unsubscribed and i'm like like, oh, that's okay.

We don't want you here anyway.

Cause we don't like sensitive.

True.

We want you to want to listen to our embarrassing sex story.

Have your exes ever used something against you that you've said on the podcast?

No, because I really don't think anything that I've said, I don't have text proof of or blatant like evidence of.

Yeah.

Like talking about text messages before we started recording.

And which one of you said that you don't delete text messages?

Her, but I save them and send them to her.

Everything I have immediately, immediately as it happens, I screenshot it.

And then she, i went to look for something a text from me and her phone they were there was no text dude she deleted our text

because we text all day and send shit i don't have room in my phone i have our text from 2016 thank god because you're the reason that i did well when i needed the receipts

that's kristen yeah literally no and the becky that you met before she left she has every like we've got into a fight in 2020 and we stopped talking for five years she saved our conversation from that fight like she still has it and i was like i I am going to jump off that balcony right here.

Yeah.

Like, probably don't.

Don't ever just delete it.

No, no, no.

Do you delete your texts?

Um, it depends who they're from.

I also think that we have to be careful with group chats because that is where the information lies.

So

then I don't know who to blame.

I often tell one person one thing and then a variation of it to other people just so I could tell who it came from.

I also, low-key, for men who have nudes of me, don't ever post them because I wrote your name really small in the bottom corner.

So if you post it, I will sue the fucking shit out of you for porn because I know which ones are sent to who.

You can also, if someone sends you an image, you can save it, go to info and see what, how many people they sent it to.

Whoa.

What?

Well, I don't know.

Wait, what?

So like, if you have a nude and you send it to multiple people and then they turn around and save it, they can see how many people it was sent to.

It also could see like the date it was taken and the location, right?

Yeah, I know that.

Wait, so some, one of your exes sent one of your nudes?

Yeah.

Well, the craziest part of this is I I didn't even know he took the pictures, but he has no money, so I couldn't sue him.

Yeah, that's why I gotta stop messing with people.

Yeah, broke dick is great, but you can't do it.

It is.

Oh my God, every time it's so different.

It really does.

And you're just like, why does it have to happen this way?

Because they have nothing else going for them.

Yeah, it's like God was like, listen, you're going to be poor, but like, you're going to have fire dick.

So, like, it's a trade-off.

Yeah, like fire dick.

Okay, so catch me up to speed where you, you're married.

Yeah.

You're not married.

I am not.

I have recently broken up with.

Okay, and we weren't going to talk about it until we got on this podcast.

Do you want to talk about it?

I mean, I think because people know that it happened, we can just like lightly brush.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

So I saw him on your social media.

I thought y'all were like this.

I didn't even know you guys were together for almost like a year and a half.

I thought you guys were like five years and was like in it.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

I know.

That sucks.

Yeah.

It's so weird.

You know how hard it is because you have kids.

Like anybody you introduce into your life, like, it's a big fucking deal.

So, like, after Tracy's divorce,

it took, I mean, how long you've been divorced?

Five years.

Yeah, it.

I was like, meet really children is a big deal.

Yeah.

Trying to date somebody that I knew would be like, my kids would be safe around, that they would be good for that.

Like, I'm like,

I don't know.

I just like, I felt like I tried so hard and then I found somebody that I was like, said all the right things on paper was perfect.

Like, and like checked boxes to bat,

you know, like when you date, like, let's say you're meeting a guy that, like, doesn't know who you are.

Okay.

So, Tracy, I know some women won't tell guys till the third date that they have a family or children, whatever.

Tracy, up front, I have kids.

This is where I live.

This is my life.

I'm not having any more kids.

I mean, first conversation, it's heavy, but you have to do it.

Right.

At this point, I'm always like, listen, I don't want to make it weird, but like, just so you know, so you don't waste your time.

I never want kids.

I'm not having any more.

Like, we're not doing that.

I have three of my own.

You don't want that?

No problem.

Enjoy dating, but like, not me.

I actually respect it.

I understand the mentality of waiting until the third, fourth date.

But for me, I have to say it right up front.

Right.

Well, also, like, Google me for two seconds and you're going to find out anyways.

Why would I not just tell you?

Right.

Because you don't want someone Googling or like sending the, you don't want him to send you to the group chat and they're like, wait, you don't know who she is.

And then they tell her.

Right.

Yeah.

I get that.

I try not to mention like, like when they're like, oh, do you have social media?

I'm like, let's wait on that because like I don't want you being like, oh, I like her because of that.

But I do like line up the kids real quick.

Yeah.

And like, i have like i have three i'm not giving details about my kids but i'm like i have three kids i do not want anymore and that's it just so you know so it was going well for it was going like amazing my family loved him his family loved me we were all in like all in he was telling me like

like this is forever like we started a business together and i said to him like i'm not gonna jump into a business with somebody if this is not forever so please just make sure you know for sure before we do this and he was like i'm not going anywhere blah blah blah worked forever or whatever promised me up and down, left and right.

I'm going to move closer to you.

The trigger for me, he took me out for my birthday and wrote me like nine promises.

I promised to always protect your daughters.

I promised to help Julian be a father that he'd like be proud of.

I promised to never make promises I can't keep.

Oh, you're making me ill.

You're making me fucking

ill.

Literally, I was like, I was just feeling like something was a little off.

My grandmother had just died, stood up with my family at the funeral, stood up with my family.

Literal chills.

Literal.

Literal chills.

And then I was like, I just felt like like something was off.

So I was like, maybe I'm just really emotional from like my grandma dying.

So let me just bring it up.

I'm like, listen, I feel like something's a little off with you.

I can't figure it out.

Maybe I'm being emotional.

Just tell me, like, no, everything's fine and I'll move along.

And then he hits me with the,

well, if I'm being honest.

And I felt everything in my body shut down.

And like, I'm a very combative person, but with him, I was so subdued, so submissive, so understanding.

Never raised my voice.

Like,

I just, because I was like, if you don't disrespect me, I'm not going to disrespect you.

Like, I will match your energy.

And he was like, well,

every time I come to Jersey, I hate it more.

I don't like being there.

I hate the traffic.

I hate the people.

I hate the this.

I don't, I don't like the anything.

I like where we live.

He lived upstate.

New York?

Yeah.

Okay.

He lived upstate.

So quiet, small town, a little bit of an older community.

It's super desirable.

It's like

you would have to skin me alive before I moved to a place like that.

No offense to anybody that lives upstate.

Me, as an outgoing person, I would physically die there.

Rot.

I would rot in my house.

Like, I can't understand it.

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But was like, I never want to live there.

And I'm like, but you've been promising me since the day we met, you're going to move here.

Like, how can I be with you if you're not going to move here?

And he was basically like, I don't know.

Do you want me to tell you?

It's just not for me.

There was never, and I'm so sorry for dragging you along.

There was never empathy.

There was never emotion.

May I?

Yeah.

I call it the post-it note breakup because it wasn't just, I don't want to move there.

He, can I say it?

I don't know where you're going to say.

The dogs.

We can edit it out.

Yeah.

Just say it and then said,

I promised my dogs a backyard.

Take it in.

Okay.

I promised my dogs.

I said to him back, you know, they don't speak English, right?

Because I didn't have an answer for that.

You made promises to begin with.

You made promises to human beings.

Yeah, I said it was like, you also made promises to four people who believed everything you said.

Two dogs are not going to need therapy after this if you don't give them a backyard.

You got her a promise ring like less

two months ago.

Called me.

I'm getting her this promise ring.

And I'm like, yeah, I think it

was sweet, it was sweet

because he didn't have the kids, but he had to be able to do it.

But it's in between because he meant to you,

and also, I'm an overthinker and I need a lot of reassurance.

So, I think he felt like if I give this to her, it's a constant reminder every time she looks at it until we're at that point.

And the goals, it's in the middle of the day.

And I don't want to rush an engagement, but that's not what I was looking for.

She wasn't asking for anything.

That's like infuriating.

Like, she didn't ask for the promised ring.

It was him, like, I want to be the father Julian never had.

Like, yeah, he has no male role models in his life.

And he literally chills.

He promised to be that.

I don't want I could cry right i'm not gonna cry but i could cry like because it's you don't do you don't i was so careful

kids and she and you did everything right i know people are gonna be like why didn't you no you did everything right this time and she and i liked him same and i liked him because his energy like they were yin and yang like he was so chill whatever but like that conversation when he said like he wasn't gonna move the children were not brought up once not once the during the breakup conversation not once did he say you know what i love those children and i'm so sorry i will talk to them.

Like I will sit down and tell them, like, sometimes things happen, but they weren't brought up once.

How?

And he knows everything she goes through with the baby daddy.

Like, he knows everything.

And the coldness of it was scary.

So when was he going to tell you if you didn't say something?

Bingo.

Bingo, ready?

I said to him, when were you planning on telling me this?

And he said, and I quote, indirect quotes, I wasn't going to.

I was just going to ride it out.

So you were just going to continue to lie to me until it inevitably, I was like, hey, like give you an ultimatum.

Like, when were you going to tell?

Like, I was so blindsided.

I,

I just, I don't, I can't even put into words.

I was like, this was my husband.

I, I was so clear about not posting him for so long because I was like, I'm not posting you until I'm sure.

And then when I did, he was like, he gained like 6,000 followers from it.

as you would like, you know, and I kept thinking like, there's no way that's why he's in it.

But then like we broke up three days later, he wiped me from his Instagram.

Like I never existed.

And now like

on bumble, he's back on bumble.

Not just on bumble, because anybody could be back on bumble after a thing.

You photoshopped me out of all of your bumble pictures.

So you have photos of yourself, but you chose to use the photos of me and you together.

And like.

This is not an easy Photoshop.

He recreated doors in the background.

No, like, I know you're fucking lying.

He remade a new arm for himself in one of them.

I was like, yo, this took energy out of your life.

Like you consciously sat there and were like, oh, let me take all of the photos me and you have and use them.

I feel like, and I'm speaking from experience.

Anytime that I've done something like that where I immediately start dating someone else, it's because I already had chemistry with someone before we broke up.

And so immediately following that relationship, I was able to get into another one.

Do you think that there could have been someone else?

I actually don't.

And the reason I don't think there was anybody else is because he went to work and went home and wanted no socialization.

He was not a social person.

Okay.

Like even me going out to like offering, like, let's go on a double date, his response would be, well, just because your friend has a husband doesn't mean I'm going to be best friends with him.

And I would be like,

okay, but you are going to have to be around people for, like, I feel like he got so used to being with him and his dogs alone in the house that that's all he ever wanted.

And like, low-key was trying to get out of that with me.

Maybe

depression.

I don't know what it is.

It's something that needs to be addressed.

I feel like it's the situation and the coldness to which it ended needs is undiagnosed for sure.

Something is wrong.

You can't invest 18 months almost with someone and just cut them off like that and say, I was never going to tell you

wild.

I promise my dog's a backyard is the craziest thing I've ever heard.

I didn't even know how to respond to it because I was like, you know, they don't speak English.

Was it in a person?

She literally said that.

Was it in person?

No, it was over the phone because I had just been like, hey, I feel like you're off.

Is everything okay?

Like we were on FaceTime and he was basically like, you know, whatever it is, what it is.

And it was very, there was never, I never got an I'm sorry

ever.

Not in the whole conversation.

So, how do you take that and explain it to the kids?

I only told my oldest daughter because I was on the phone with him five times on FaceTime a day.

And like, now they're starting to pick up that I'm not on the phone with him anymore.

And so my oldest was like, Are you okay?

Is something wrong?

And I was like, Listen, I have to talk to you about something.

We're no longer together.

And she was like, What?

Like, the way this child transformed into from nine to like 16, like in the response that she gave, she's like, that

removed him from her pinned conversations in her phone because they talked, you know, and like was just like, no problem, unfollowed him.

She's like, I don't want anything to do with him now.

And I was like, this is trauma that I feel like you're going to experience later on in life because you really thought and I really thought, but I haven't told the other ones yet because I don't want to break them.

And my little one is still talking about him.

And this is what, like, this is what

he knew that these children were abandoned essentially by their father.

They haven't seen their father in how long, right?

And he knows

where he pretended to be this hero, and then to leave the same way the dad did to put them through the same thing again.

And then I said to Tracy, like, how do you trust after this?

Because she did everything right, right?

Like, she was honest.

These are my needs.

These are my wants.

So you did everything right.

And it's, how do you trust again?

Because he verbally, he gave you everything you wanted to hear.

Yeah, it wasn't just on paper.

Where do you go?

Like, where do you go from here?

I, I don't know.

And I don't know.

And it's just the broken, like, it, as a married woman, I'm like, like, I'm, do I, I looked at my husband's phone right now.

Like, I don't trust anybody anymore.

Like,

he, it broke my trust in people.

Like, I don't know.

Well, it's one of those things too.

I talk about it on my podcast all the time.

It's like when to introduce somebody to your children.

And when you go through something like this, and it's sort of, it's a blessing and a curse, right?

Because we're glad that you didn't go through years and years and years with this person for him to just ride it out.

You don't love me then?

Or what is, what is going on?

Right.

But then the other side of it is if you were to meet somebody else who is serious about you, at what point do you know it's serious enough to to invite them into your children's lives you wait until you have a a ring yeah you wait until an engagement ring but then at that point it's like what if they don't like him right no i so you how do you balance i'm terrified i'm terrified

to anybody on no and and and rightfully so and i know that it's so fresh that we shouldn't be thinking about your next relationship but but when you're a mom you have to think like that but you know what it is like I I come off so cold.

I really do.

And I'm the first person to be like, I don't make love.

I don't do any of that.

Right.

I skeeve the word

i skeeve the word but i am such a romantic all i want is like i feel like i believe in love because of the way i love like and i want to give that so bad so like people are like you know do you want to be in love again just not right now and i'm like no i want to be in love tomorrow like i want that so bad that like like i don't know when it's gonna happen but like i want it to be like i want the fairy tale yeah and like i really do love all that mushy stuff like anybody that's super corny sign me up I love it.

I love it.

I want you to text me good morning and good night and like check on me in the day.

And like, I like the attention.

I want you to touch on me all the time.

I love that.

Like, you do?

Yeah.

I want you to

loving me, kissing on me.

Like, I love that.

If you're not doing that, I feel like I'm unattractive to you.

That's your language.

That's what I need.

Like,

well, if anyone is serious and likes Tracy and

wants big tits,

loves big tits, that's your girl.

So then I'm like, what the fuck?

Is now every time I look at a man, I'm like, oh, he looks undiagnosed.

That man definitely likes children.

Like, I'm like terrified of every man now.

Would you date men with children?

Yeah.

I mean, the thing is, my son is deaf and legally blind.

So, like, he is not, not that the girls are not, but he is such a priority to me.

Like, I never want to like try so hard to get other children to like us or fit or whatever that like it doesn't blend properly.

I would obviously prefer not, but if I would open to anybody, because I can't expect people to accept me with children and me not accept them with children, it's it's a lot because you're a blended family is really hard.

The kids could hate each other, yeah, the kids could resent each other for you being anything.

It's very hard to dealing with emotional children and, like, especially ones who have seen neglect in their life, I feel like is wild.

But are you gonna have any more kids?

That's that's the problem is that a lot of these people, these guys, they're young, they want families of their own.

That's why I have four baby daddies.

Yeah, you keep doing it.

You're collecting them like Super Bowl rings.

Pokemon.

People get so upset about it.

But I'm like, because I end it when I don't feel like the relationship serves me anymore.

It's not a thing for anybody to be upset of.

You're setting boundaries.

But at the point that it gets to like, okay, we're at two, three, four, I should also not be having children with them.

So it's like, oh, catch 22.

Yeah, I mean, but that's your life.

So fuck whoever has an opinion about it.

I don't care.

It bothers me.

If it doesn't bother you, who the fuck cares?

And your career is.

My kids don't care.

So they're getting more and more family every time you do that.

So it's like they have to be excited to to be like, oh, we got to get another sibling or whatever.

Like, they're not going to look at it like, oh, we don't have the same dad.

They could not care less.

They don't know any difference.

Whatever you do.

It bothers everyone else more than us.

Yeah.

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It's hard being a single parent.

Dating is fucking insane.

I never knew dating pool.

Would you ever go on Raya?

I'm on a waiting list.

Bro.

How are you on a waiting list?

Why don't we?

We should pitch a reality that you're going to be.

You won't accept me.

Am I not good enough for you, Raya?

They've asked her to do dating shows.

She won't do them.

You won't?

She wants to come to her.

No, because I feel like men really, like nowadays, men want, it's disturbing how men want to be treated like princesses so badly.

Like they want to be famous so badly.

Yeah,

and it's so weird to me.

The second a guy says to me like, oh, what you got a lot of followers on Instagram, I'm instantly turned off.

Yeah.

Cause I'm like, ew, like you're such a skeeve.

Like you're definitely the guy in every girl's likes because all you care about is social media.

I need a guy who's like so fucking boring that he doesn't post anything.

How about a woman?

Yeah, I say this all the time.

i just said it to my cousin i'm like she's like i'm so sorry about anthony and i was like no it's fine i'm a lesbian now and she was like no the you're not i'm like i know i wish i'm so i wish i don't know

like i feel like it's so much easier i see all these happy lesbians and i'm like this is safe

all of them they're all the lesbians in this room are like no

happy i feel like it's just the it's dick dick is making you stupid stupid stigmatizing the thing

i know i know

i'm so pro dick dick.

I hate it.

I fucking hate it.

I hate it.

I love that.

It's a big, giant masculine energy.

Like, I love that.

Like, where are you going with that?

Well, I love it.

That was like a big, big, big giant dick.

Yeah.

I was like, no,

that's not fitting in your butt.

No, it is not.

Exit only.

This is not an entry.

I can't.

Okay, Jessica, can we talk about a lip?

Just touch on it, dust on it, a little glitter and greed.

I know.

You're in the middle of a lawsuit, so we can't say much,

but people may recognize you you from glittering and greed.

Yeah, it's it's crazy because we have so many other things going on and people are like, did I just see you on a prime talk you series?

And I'm like, Yeah, you did.

I can't believe I have not watched it because I don't want to hurt my own feelings, but I knew about it.

We talked about it on my other podcast.

My co-host watched it.

Did you?

Yeah.

She watched it.

She watched it.

And I told her, I said, I'm not watching it.

We were just devastated.

We were absolutely devastated because we've always talked about Lisa Frank throughout the years.

We've had the podcast since 2017.

And we've always talked about Lisa Frank because as a child, I never could afford it so I bought all this shit from my daughter like backpacks wallet I bought all this stuff thinking oh my god she can use it even though like I know that uh Lisa Frank was like not a thing for years and years but I bought all this stuff for us it was it never stopped no it never stopped for yeah for all of us yeah so I bought like the alien backpack and like I still have them but um

it's hard to get I I feel your pain because The reason that I wanted to work with her is because she was a role model to me.

She's a cool woman, like especially back then, like to be a woman entrepreneur, so successful.

And, you know, she's an artist like me.

I was like, gosh, the first time I met her, are you kidding me?

I, I, I, it's fucking Lisa Frank and she's a real and she's a real person.

Like, yeah, crazy.

They never meet your idols.

It's a thing.

It's a thing.

They'll disappoint you.

They'll disappoint you.

And I hate to like, I have seen like a lot of the comments, like, I like, you, I won't watch it.

I don't want it to be ruined for me.

And I get it.

I get it.

But that being said, you guys should watch the documentary on Prime it's on and it's on Prime think for yourself see for yourself what is it but I we are in the middle we're like pre-trial shit right now so I really can't talk about it but when I can I do have a lot to say a lot of tea to spill I'd love to do it here um I also have some thoughts about Morphe

and um

we've got a makeup girly right here so I don't know much about Morphe I don't know much about anything in the beauty industry so you don't know you're so pretty well

it's because of CD and the other girls I don't do this

do that.

I just, I hate that that's where we are today is like finding out people that we love and were inspirations to us growing up and we have such high hopes and then they let us down so hard.

And that's like everyone's childhood.

I feel like every, anyone I knew that grew up around our ages loved Lisa Frank.

Even now I just sold Crocs on Poshmark and Posh Peanut did.

the pajama line with Lisa Frank and I bought that for my daughter and I.

And I just, it's so hard.

I will say it is a crazy story.

It is a crazy chapter of my life that

it it ruined me for a long time like I was in a really really bad place like a really bad place um financially mentally everything I mean I didn't like where do you you know when you're a creative person you put all your energy into something and then it gets just overnight taken away from you you're like where do I go from here

what am I good at what am I you know

who am I really yeah

when somebody who has that much power takes everything you love away from you there's nowhere to go except for looking what you have left.

And that's the most devastating thing because they could not care less.

And my mate of line, like Lambert Dolls was my baby.

Like I say this, like I am an older mom and I am an older mom because I was like, I can't do both.

Like I'm a businesswoman.

Like I really didn't think you could do both.

Like now I know better.

And I'm, but then I was like, no, I can't be, that would be a distraction.

Like I put.

my life, my world into this, you know, to the point where I like help put, push my family back, which as you all saw, did not turn out well because it took me a long time to get pregnant and start my family.

So it's all like,

it kills me.

It kills me.

But I do want to come back and tell you more about it.

Because absolutely.

You know, like I said, we're pre-trial stuff.

I have an attorney now.

So I have high hopes that you'll be able to bring back Glamour Dolls at some point, if that's what you want to do.

That would be amazing.

And so many, like social media has been so nice.

They were like, we will support you.

Like, it has been amazing.

Like, the, the story has turned.

It's been nice to tell my side because, you know, for the longest time, I don't even think you knew really.

You wouldn't tell me because you were like, I just can't talk.

I couldn't talk.

I think it's so draining.

But like, I still in my makeup kit have Athena.

Like, I live for this color, this shadow.

Athena, I lived in it and I won't let it go.

And the kitty kisses, like, my kids still use her lipsticks because they're like, it was such great quality.

It was so good.

And we loved it.

You need to bring back like a pizza palette.

Or bring when you bring back Glamour Dolls, do like a pizza.

You just do that.

All the colours.

Do we have to coffee that right that before we leave does my lipstick smell like pepperoni you're just making out with a guy like did you see the fucking pizza the grease on your lips yes it is i mean oh yeah pizza grease oh that would be awesome oh i love that well so you guys could do a collab a jersey themed one pizza pizza collab so much like so much you could do with it it just sucks because like when you get like you were saying when everything is ripped from you you don't have a choice you kind of have to look at the pieces and decide am i gonna try to put back together what i can or do i start over or do i not bring it back at all?

And that's really hard.

It's crazy because I thought that was like the worst thing that's ever happened to me.

And then like building my family and like having fertility issues, like that became, oh, cry.

What is wrong with you?

I can't even say it.

I know.

It was hard watching you through that because it was like she was the girl who never, she was like, I don't really want kids.

And then all of a sudden,

I was like, how do you have kids?

What do you feed them?

Like, I don't know.

Pizza.

No, no, she literally is like so annoyed when it comes to all that.

And all of a sudden, like, she's the best mom ever.

It's wild to watch.

Who is so wild?

I don't know.

I tell you all the time.

I have no clue who you are.

Every time she like, Joel, thank you, Kristen.

Yeah.

Paper towel, though, really.

Sorry.

Sorry, that's all we had.

Let me just dainly get my eye eyes with a paper towel.

That was me.

I've been crying all week.

So I completely understand.

I just, I hate that for you because also going through fertility issues is a whole other can of worms.

And so in the midst of everything, you're like, what the fuck?

Where do I go from here?

Yeah.

Where do i go are you okay i'm okay we talk about if you're okay

i don't have a cry log like becky does yeah but i do cry a lot yeah how did you guys feel about that would you ever make one of those cry log cry log i would be overwhelmed i struggle to keep three kids alive every day cry log just seems like a part of that survival technique three o'clock when the kids come home cry log begins yeah it's like when does it begin every day i see a pattern here like i'm just a day she starts crying all the time you know how she keeps a log of like what she was doing it's just like made eye contact with a child like cry

so wrong they're such a double like i'm so grateful and blessed to like have children a family but then like sometimes it just like why yeah

yeah and kids will test us and make us cry all in one day

all i wanted tonight was just like time to get ready like yeah give me 20 minutes to just be my own person and i'm curling my hair with the baby on my hip like one-handed curling like she's attached to me what am i supposed to do like i need to be a person and a mom.

How are you supposed to do it all?

It really is hard.

Like, we live in a really crazy age where we're supposed to do it all.

And, like, nobody even bats an eye, just what we're supposed to do.

But they don't ask dads to do that.

They're not asking, nobody's asking dads.

They're like girls when they do anything.

Oh, my God.

When they touch a baby, pick them up.

They're like, what an active dad.

And I'm like, bro, that's your fucking sperm in your arms.

Get it together and take care of it.

I seen a thing that was like, you take your kids to McDonald's, and everyone's like, oh, God, you're the worst mom.

dad does.

He's so fun.

Like, he's the best dad.

Yeah.

He's a fun dad.

It's just, it's different.

And, you know,

this morning was the, I was like having a mental breakdown because I can't just get rentals.

I was like, are you okay?

She's like, Tracy, I'm having the worst day.

I'm in the worst mood.

And I'm like, wrap it up.

Wrap it up.

We're going to, we're going to prioritize.

First, we're going to get dressed.

Then we're going to, then we're going to pack our bags.

Then you're going to come back and do your hair after and you're going to do your makeup in the car.

Literally, I had to like step her through.

She's like, okay, I'm in a better room now.

I'll see you later.

We'll see you in a few minutes.

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How do you guys feel about nannies?

Do you guys use nannies?

I don't.

I never do.

I'm very lucky.

I have my parents, my in-laws, everybody.

It's a rotating cast of characters in my home.

Rotating cast of characters is a really good way to put it.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm not against them.

I love one.

My parents live a little bit far, so we visit them every weekend because I like, you know, my parents are very young still.

So they're active and they want to do stuff with my kids.

So I'm like, I'm going to take advantage of that now because I want them to remember them as like super involved for grandparents.

For sure.

But like, I don't have any help during the week.

None.

Have you seen people on social media talk, like, rip people to shreds for having nannies?

I don't pay attention to any of that.

I'm very good at like.

of like I have a really thick skin.

So anything they say, I'm like, I basically laugh at and block them.

Sometimes if they catch me in a mood, I'll give them like something that I get, you know, like flagged for.

Are people pretending like if they couldn't afford a nanny, they wouldn't do it?

Yeah, of course they they are of course 100%

because I have childcare at my house from nine to four.

Yeah, consider it a nanny, right?

But after four o'clock, she goes home and I don't have help on the weekends.

But people think that I do everything that I do, but that would be daycare hours.

Like I have you just have daycare in your house, correct.

I get ripped to shreds.

So I didn't know if you guys also experienced that, but I also knew you do though.

I get with parents all day.

Why though?

For what?

Because you're with your parents.

The way my kids dress, the way I go out.

Like, apparently, like, bathed, well-fed, and dressed.

If it's like something inappropriate, like, my kids are in cheer.

They live in shorts and a crop top, like a sports bra.

That's like what they wear.

And then I'll bring them out and get them a thing of ice cream.

And they're like, wow, she really brought them to get ice cream in a crop top.

And I'm like, we're on our way to cheer.

Like, I don't really, that is the attire for cheer.

Like, and everything, the wrong dress, she looks too mature.

No matter what I do.

Straight was the villain.

I am the villain of my shuttle.

So no matter what

I do, I could be the best mom ever.

I could save a child from a burning building.

And it was like, well, she could have done it faster.

Yeah.

Or she could have saved other things, memories that she didn't get for the family.

Like, it doesn't matter what I do.

I'm always going to be the bad guy.

Do you feel like you want the redemption story or do you not?

No, I fucking don't care.

I don't really care.

You have to just be like...

Beat down.

Yeah, I've been beat down for so long that I think I'm just numb.

It's not the right place to be.

I think it's really wrong.

It's like I was able to like internalize the villain story.

And so I was basically speaking it into existence where, where the villains, the villain's story was not,

it was created for me.

Yeah, right.

I didn't do that.

And so then

I was pigeonholed there.

And so then I became the villain because I was the villain for so long.

Right.

And I don't know how to like redeem myself, I guess, or how to talk myself out of it.

I don't know.

So I just wondered if, do I just get used to it?

And just I'm always always like, I was silenced for a long time as a child from like an incident that I dealt with for a really long time.

And I didn't say anything.

And the second that man died, I was so vocal and rude and nasty to everybody who tried me.

So like I naturally became the villain because I was like, I'll never be quieted again.

Like that's not going to happen to me.

Right.

So now like they're like, oh, my mom, she's like, oh, you're so abrasive.

Like it doesn't, you don't have to be nasty about it.

I'm like, no, nasty is how I survive because I need people to know, like, I am not the one.

I'm not the two and I'm not the three.

Like, find somebody else, go play where it's safe.

I'm not it.

Like, and because that man died, I then had this like drunk with power and I ran with it.

And so I'm instantly the villain because I have a mouth, I have a voice.

I'm not going to let anybody push me around.

So I'm always the villain.

Even my friends, like if there was like something went wrong in a relationship, even if that girl did what was wrong, I am somehow the reason that the relationship failed because I'm the natural go-to villain.

I feel like we're so aligned there.

Yeah, and I just don't care.

I don't care anymore.

I'm like, ahead, think whatever the fuck you want to think and think it again because I don't care.

Whatever you want,

whatever works for you.

Like, whatever helps you sleep at night following me is crazy because I'm like, these people, like, don't you have a husband to go fuck or a child to like change a diaper of?

And you're on Instagram watching my every move and then writing, rewriting about it and like collecting friends who also hate me.

Like, that's

sociopathic.

Like, I need these people to like refill their meds immediately.

Bonding over hating someone where you would have otherwise never been friends before, ever.

You would probably would have never talked.

You don't like each other.

You've talked shit about each other, but now that you bonding, you're bonding over hating me is the weirdest fucking energy.

It's so scary because it's like, these are the people that are like out and about in the world.

Like,

it's so weird.

Okay, I want to play a game.

Yeah, never have I ever.

Oh, I lose this every time.

Okay.

So

I didn't put these questions together.

So they're going to be as surprising for me as they are for you.

It's okay.

Okay.

Do we put out five hands?

I mean, five fingers?

Oh, ten fingers.

Oh, ten.

Okay,

just let Tracy win.

No, I'm going to lose is the problem.

You're going to win.

Oh, okay.

I got the game.

Never have I ever tried it in the back door at least once.

You've never tried anal?

No.

Are you kidding me?

We just had a whole conversation about that.

No, no.

So what I did was I just, just the tip like prom night and then let him come in my ass, but I didn't.

Oh my god, put your finger down.

That's not your name.

That's not the same.

He wasn't fully in.

So wait, are we letting them finish in our butt?

Like they just slip it in.

I just, I was not on birth control at the time, and I thought it was a solvable solution.

So I was like, let's try it one time.

No, no, no.

And I was like, all right, this isn't awful, but it was only just the like little, you know, just the tip.

Like, Tracy,

I want to know how does that work?

Because I don't think anyone I've ever been with in my entire life would have enough time

to come in my ass, to pull it out and slip it in.

The way that my asshole would rip wide open

if it went.

It's such a little, like, right?

Like, what's the tip?

No, the tip is the worst part.

Oh, well, that's all I got in.

That's why I said put your finger down.

Okay.

I need you here when I record because she never would have put her finger down.

That counts as a finger down.

The casualness of became in my asshole.

Okay.

She's so nonchalant.

Like, we would just like, oh, look at the blue sky.

It came in my ass.

It came in my ass.

Shit, my pants as an adult.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, thank God.

Thank God.

I was driving home with my kids, and I was like, guys, this is going to be a problem.

Did they rat you out to your camera crew?

Cause that's what mine did.

No, I literally just ratted myself out just now.

I shit myself in jeans like that.

Could you imagine the shit coming out of the ribs?

Okay.

Faked an orgasm because I had shit to do.

No, I don't fake anything.

If you suck, I'm going to boo in your ear.

Oh, boo.

Do better.

i'm not faking anything sent nudes to the wrong person oh yeah

you've done that who did you send them to on accident the wrong guy that i was sexy and he was like oh this was a surprise

asked me for them and he's like no and i was like lol i was just joking okay it's t to okay

you sent Who was it?

Just take a step back.

You sent nudes to the wrong guy.

Then you had to do a whole thing with your fingers and you were on the highway in the car.

What was that story?

No, no, no.

I sent a screenshot of a conversation I had to my ex-husband.

Oh, and then why did you pretend to be fingered?

Wait, what?

I don't remember this.

I do.

I'm traumatized by it.

You showed like.

Oh,

I don't want to reveal this shit.

This is a girl.

I'll reveal it off camera, but like, I reveal it.

No, he's not going to hear it.

No, because somebody's going to hear it.

And the next time I send it, they're going to be like, that's not right.

You're lying.

Reveal it.

It's worth it.

Okay.

So

if you're texting a guy and he's like, How wet are you?

All you have to do is spit in your fingers and go like this.

And it looks like you're wet and you're not.

And I'm in a fucking penguin onesie and he's all turned on and I'm fucking frying pancakes.

Not the penguin onesie.

Like, he's like, oh, what are you wearing?

And I'm like, black lingerie, and it's a fucking penguin hoodie.

Like,

that was a text you said you're excited.

Oh, that's so embarrassing.

I love that for you.

Oh, I'm going to do it right now.

Oh.

Oh, my God.

But have you taken a photo and the guy's like, wow.

And I'm like, yeah, meanwhile, I'm like, no, because I'm going to do that.

I'm going to do it on my ride home.

You also put another, she says you're the faker orgasms.

Put the other finger down.

No, I don't.

I won't fake.

I'll just fake your fingering.

Okay, got it.

Had a one-night stand and never learned their name.

No.

No.

Okay, same.

Hooked up with someone while someone else was asleep in the room.

Yes.

Wait, asleep in the room?

I've hooked up with people with other people awake in the room.

Oh, Jesus.

Same thing.

Put the finger down.

You fucked in the room with me?

Who with who?

I did.

Not you being reminded.

Were you there too?

No.

Were you there too?

Was the whole room there?

All the girlies are like,

posted a thirst trap with the sole purpose of ruining someone's night yeah i also delete it the second that person sees it like if it's on story and i know that person that i wanted to see it sees it i'll just delete it love that yeah love that the job has been done pretended to be asleep to avoid sex or fake sleep after

no I'm the one who's like round two, round three.

I mean, I'm married.

I've had to have done that at some point.

It's like

for sure did it while I was married.

Had a full meltdown over a man I knew damn well wasn't shit.

Oh, yeah.

All the time.

Several of them.

Several.

Pretty much every man I've never cheating on.

Why are we like this?

Every man I've ever dated.

Did you ever, unrelated to this, have you ever done something fucked up to someone you were dating and had a mental breakdown and cried in front of them about it?

No.

I cheated.

What did you do?

Like I cheated on my ex-girlfriend and then I cried about it to her and was like, you know what I mean?

Oh, like, how did she take the victim?

She took me back.

She did?

Yeah, several times.

That's for extra sad.

No, because

I I got my karma over and over after that.

If I saw her, I would say sorry.

Sorry, girlfriend.

Got back with someone just to prove a point and then left again.

All my hands are down for that.

Yeah, I would say I don't really remember the details of it.

I had to have got back with somebody just for the fuck's sake.

Yeah.

Have you?

How long have you been with your husband?

It's embarrassing.

It's a long time since high school.

No, it will stop.

You guys went to the same high school.

We went to the same.

I was not with him since high school.

You guys knew him?

I think I've seen more than one dick in my life, Tracy.

Oh, well, that's not what I meant.

No, but I did know him in high school.

But then I got drunk one night, like way after high school, and that's how that happened.

So five years, 10 years?

So probably like 15 years.

When did you get to that?

You've been married with him since I met you?

2017, but we were together for 10 years before that.

Oh, wow.

I was living my best life.

So 20 years almost.

Damn.

Yeah.

A dream.

Yeah.

So married a long time, but you know, a lot of wisdom to be learned every day.

Yeah.

It's something like a power couple, though, because she's so unserious and he's so chill.

So it works out really well.

Like he'll come home from the boy, like a night with the boys and she'll just be like, you got to tell me something funny that happened.

Instead of being like, we're there girls, where like she could not give a fuck less.

And he does not entertain anyone.

So he don't even like answer people's Instagrams.

Like he has no.

As he shouldn't.

Like he's just so chill.

He's like really great human.

When you find a man that does not care about social media, it's so freeing.

It is so nice that like he doesn't even know what the fuck I'm up to.

It's wonderful.

Like it's it's nice.

Like will we?

I want a man to be a man.

I want to go back to there.

Guys posting selfies for me is like not hot.

Like it doesn't do it for me.

No, I think I actually think men posting selfies is the most cringe thing that I ever see.

It's just got like, what are you doing?

What are you doing?

Like what are you?

We've recorded episodes and he he'll be like, do not use that.

And she's like, okay, no problem.

And then we upload it like the next day and he'll never hear it.

Yeah, well, because he just doesn't.

So part of bad examples, kind of what you do, which I like.

Like we bring in the people in our lives.

Like they become characters, right?

In a way.

So we made a segment for my husband.

It's like Denny's do's and don'ts.

And it's like, you hear a little like, woof, woof, like cop, but he fucking hates it.

I pretty much force him to do it.

He'll get to the job, like arresting someone.

And we're like, Denny, quick second.

Do you think?

And he's like, I literally have someone in cuffs.

Can you call me back later?

It's like, we're like, this was an emergency.

I hate you guys.

He hates us so much.

What?

Oh, he talked about the girl he fucked with the back bracelet because he was so mad.

He fucked a girl in a back brace because he thought it was a corset, and I've never died harder in my life.

I'm like, is she okay after?

Like, y'all are married though, right?

I'm like, We were like, Tell us your most embarrassing story.

And he was like, Yeah, I fucked a girl on a back brace.

I'm telling you, I could not breathe.

We have the brake bracelet.

But the clip went viral, and he was like, I don't want the back brace girl to hear it.

You know, I know, did she hear it?

Did she reach out?

I don't know.

We don't know.

He wouldn't know because you don't check his DMs.

You don't know.

so good that's all i have for today's episode where can people find you um so bad examples podcast on instagram yes uh two girls one slice spelt out t-w-o um on instagram and then we're on patreon yeah patreon.com slash bad examples personal instagram oh um mine is tracy demarco underscore d-i-m-a-r-c-l you're really just hottie just hottie just hotty the most known thing ever, but it's going to last forever.

My late identity is Jess Hottie.

It's like to say her lies, Jess Hottie.

I kind of love it, though.

That's like become a thing.

It's become an embarrassing thing.

But yeah, I hope your audience, I feel like our listeners are the same.

Yes.

Like they are from the same breed, same old.

Yeah, we want new besties.

Like that's our listeners.

are our friends.

And I think what makes us different than other podcasts is like we connect with them.

Like our podcast, the way it grew and the way we grew and how we've kind of, we talk about everything about ourselves is because of them because

they'll ask us.

They trust you more of this.

Can you see that?

We're like, noted, we got it for next episode.

100%.

We, the people that you're DMing on Instagram is us.

You're talking to us.

We don't have people running it because we want you to feel that personalization from us.

Like anything you want, we will try to get back to you.

We work really hard to like make that connection.

And I think Tracy and I.

People are like, why would we listen to your advice?

Why aren't that so funny?

And we're like, no, we're really good at giving advice.

we just suck you don't take it

because you lived it and that's what i understand why would you take advice from someone who's never lived that experience like when you have these crazy stories and like you've been through wild or like really hard

why wouldn't you listen to us yeah and we're we take you for everything like Tracy's divorce was super hard.

We, we, we talked about it all, like my miscarriages.

Like, yeah, then we've talked about swingers.

We give blowjob tips.

Oh, we can leave some of those?

Yeah, for sure.

Okay.

Love that.

That's it for today's episode of Barely Famous Podcast.

We'll see you next week.

Thanks for having me.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

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