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Kristen. Hello.
I'm eating dinner in Spain. Is it probably lunchtime over there? It's

1.18 p.m. here, so it's 7.18 p.m.
where you are. Yeah.
Yeah, so dinner. Should have already

eaten something for the day. Haven't, but I'm about to eat some leftovers.
I am so jealous

I'm going to go some leftovers. I am so jealous of your leftovers.
The food here is absolutely disgusting. And my recommendation, if anyone listening to this podcast is obviously always be thankful, grateful, blessed that you're able to travel, which I am so thankful.
But the food here is absolutely awful. So my recommendation would be to probably not come to Madrid.
It would be to go to Barcelona, Mallorca, Valencia even, but absolutely not here. I was diagnosed with, is diagnosed the right word? That feels really dramatic.
To say I was diagnosed with strep throat. I have strep throat, so I'm currently on ibuprofen, the lovely steroid prednisone.
Um, they also prescribed me a probiotic, which is nice. That was really kind of them.
And I'm just truly pushing through. Um, this is the first day that I don't feel like I'm swallowing glass.
So I'm able to actually, they're still swollen, but I'm able to swallow it down. Should we talk about why you got strep throat? Because it's absolutely because you haven't been sleeping.
We need to talk to a doctor. Okay.
Like, here's the thing. This is the craziest connection, but I, because you have to be exposed to that bacteria or to that virus or to whatever in order to get said illness, right? Like the people that say, oh, if you go outside in the cold, you're going to get sick.
No, actually, that's not how it works. You have to be exposed to said illness, right? For some reason, every time I don't sleep for several days in a row, and when I say don't sleep, I mean significant hours in the night where I'm not sleeping.
I'm not just talking about waking up once, twice, three times, like truly not sleeping, up from one to five, up from one to four, just really, really bad sleep. um LA trip fucked me up.
So I'm wondering if either I was exposed to strep that caused me to not sleep for those days leading up to having strep, or if not sleeping, I couldn't fight off the exposure to strep. I just don't understand why it's always.
Like, Kristen, you've known me for 13 years. Why when I don't sleep, I immediately get strep? What is, I don't understand.
You have had strep in 13 years. At least 15 times.
At least 15 times. Do you know how many times I've had strep in those same 13 years? Never.
Hasn't happened. It's not, it's not common.
Like in adults, it's not common at all. I do know a little bit about strep, like bacteria or whatever.
It is so like, it is everywhere. It is so everywhere.
So I think personally, you are so affected by lack of sleep. Like, I think there's a lot of things that affect people differently.
I don't think not sleeping is good for any of us, but like, I can handle not sleeping. Like, it doesn't do to me what it does to you.
Like, my brain will be foggy, but like, you get fucked up, like you immediately. And it's actually crazy now that I put this connection together, because when you were texting me about your neck and your throat and whatever, I'm out here thinking like COVID or the flu or something like that.
Never did I think strep, even though I knew your ass has been up all the time because we've literally texted basically the whole time you've been gone at every single hour that I've been waiting. So I didn't put the connection together, but like, and you get strep bad.
Like I have never in my life seen someone's tonsils swell to the size I don't know how you breathe they look like balls literal balls in your throat out of all the times I've gotten strep throat two times have been horrible one time was in high school where um I tried to drink a soda and it came out my nose because my throat was so big I missed two weeks of school two full two full weeks, like five days and five days. And then this time, those are the two times that it was the worst out of all.
Um, I don't know, but honestly you saved my life. I'm not even kidding.
Like I'm not even being dramatic. Like that night before I got diagnosed, I feel just dramatic to say that.
You were diagnosed with strep. Yep.
Diagnosed with strep. I was in the bed.
I have two, we have two hotel rooms. So I,

Elijah was like, you need to sleep in this room by yourself. Like you can't, you can't be with the kids.
I was planning out how I was going to go to the hospital and I was

going to have to stay there. And Elijah was going to have to fly home with the kids.
And we were

going to have to explain this to Javi and Chris. Like I was like, I'm going to die.
Like I literally

took on my, the comforter from this room, comforter from that room put on my jacket laid in the bed and I'm literally convulsing my teeth are chattering like I didn't know what was going on because that's not a common symptom that I get with strep um but this is the um all the stuff I don't know how to yeah I don't know how to pronounce it in Spanish because it's like a crazy name. But she said that, first of all, you sent me a link.
The doctor was at my hotel to see me within 45 minutes. I didn't even have to go anywhere.
I truly love that. So you thought you were going to go to the hospital and die.
I was like, we're finding someone, like concierge medicine. We were on very different thought patterns.
No, because I had never experienced this level of symptoms with strep. The only thing that I knew it was strep was because my neck, my throat, and then the white patches.
So I was like, okay, obviously it's strep, but like, what are these other symptoms? Like I'm definitely going to die. So, um, my biggest fear is when we've had to travel, me getting sick and having to like literally get help in a different state so i can't imagine the panic of having to get like in it yeah that scared the shit out of me which it's funny because when i was like looking at where you were to find like restaurants and stuff and i was like on your location i already had found the nearest hospital which was across the highway but then when i, it had bad reviews.
So I was like, we're not sending her there. I always get prescribed prednisone when I have it because my, my tonsils get so big so that it helps the swelling.
And I was like, I don't know how Spain feels about like prescribing. I don't know how it works.
Like it's so different. Right.
So when she, when I told her, um, she was like, you know, I have to give you antibiotics or you're not gonna, you can't fight this on your own. I was like, I know.
Um, and I was like, when I normally get it, I also go on a steroid. And she said, I can prescribe you prednisone.
So then I was also like, okay, cause I don't know where in Europe, like, I don't know what they, how they feel or what, how they treat things. And yeah.
I was just thankful. I was so thankful.
And she was here so fast. She got it through.
The pharmacy was quick. Everything was good.
When you told me how fast they were coming, I was like, that would never happen here. That would never happen here.
No. So I was very thankful, but also very jealous.
Because I was like, damn it. Could never be us.
But literally, could never be us. Speaking of Stan Lee's, I had to tell you.
No, I'm so excited. They announced the Stitch movie coming out.
I love it. This was one of my birthday gifts from Corbin.
Well, I'm glad you're finally drinking out of Stan Lee's. I am.
Especially with your uh handy dandy straw toppers that you got me yes I'm not well I this is me when if it if it's like if he forgets to put one in and it sat there for a little bit I'm like why are you the same person because Isaac has the Olivia Rodrigo one and he left it in the classroom um he got it back and he's like I can't drink out of it I'll never look at it the same with

the straw and I mean Elijah like change the fucking straw replace the straw yep that's

literally just so suspect about it I don't know why I'm just like there's definitely a bug in here

I don't know when I went to Thailand I had a spider in my straw but I saw it was I think that

really did me in like for you thanks thank you I think that really I'm also eating alongside

I just want eating alongside you. This would be Thanksgiving leftovers.
I'm so jealous. The food here is absolutely horrible.
I need to know what is it? Go ahead. Is it seasoning? Is it spice? Is it flavor? Like what is bad? For anyone listening to this and tells me, oh, just go get Spanish food.
Oh, go get paella. Oh, go get croquettes.
They're disgusting. They're horrible.
They have no flavor, no salt. They don't believe in salt here.
There's no seasoning. Elijah is like, I'm going home and I'm making Thanksgiving dinner because he was like, I don't know what to do.
We went to Segovia yesterday for a tour. He's like, should I go to the store and see if they have salt and pepper? Like, he's like, there's no, like even this potato is fucking plain.
The meat is plain. Everything is plain.
There's no, there's nothing. We talked to hobby's family.
They're like, no, the food is no. I feel like now your next big event invention is going to be like travel size condiments because it's got it has to be like um a universal problem i feel like like there's got to be more countries and stuff that have like no seasoning well i think it's it's pretty common across Europe.
Which is, I mean, they say that Europe has like the healthiest food and stuff. And I love that.
Do we feel like you've lost weight because your face looks thinner? Well, I don't know because the prednisone is making me hungry, which is not really helping. I think I'm going to gain 20 pounds when I get back to the U.S., like immediately gain it as soon as I look at the food.
I mean, probably. Like I'm probably eating

chemical filled things at this exact moment and I made them from scratch, but I made them with

things that weren't. We talk about how while I've been sitting in my hotel room crying about how

sick I am, I was scrolling on TikTok. did you see on TikTok the um Dollar Tree Meals woman I bawled my fucking eyes out because this guy was telling the story about how he went to the Dollar Tree and saw this woman and like was picking out all the ingredients from her TikTok and then I found her and I saw her and I was like my God, like this, I'm obsessed with this and I love this and we need more of this in the world.
One thousand percent. I was so, I was also just very impressed.
Like so impressed. Like I love resourceful people.
I follow so many resourceful people because I feel like it teaches me stuff and I love learning new stuff all the time. Yeah.
Marie and I, not to that level, but like we, like I'm talking like within the last six years, we used to dollar store food shop, like to just put it together with whatever we could do. And some of those meals were like probably not the best for you, but like.
At least they fed you. They fed me.
Yeah. Literally no complaints.
That's why I'm always like, I think people forget about dollar stores for anything in general.

Yeah, it's not a dollar anymore, obviously, with inflation and stuff.

But I think people do forget that they exist.

No, for sure.

They're so helpful to a lot of people.

I think on Coffee Convos, I told Lindsay about the family dollar that's on my street.

And I'll go down there and grab a box of Hamburger Helper.

I'm going to go dollar, the family dollar that's on my street. And I'll go down and grab a box of hamburger helper.
I don't give a shit. You know, it'll feed the whole family or whatever.
But I love resourceful people. And I love that they're sharing it.
And there's no shame in it. Because at the end of the day, I think they're helping way more people than, you know, the people that are judging like, oh, my God, they made their Thanksgiving out of, you know, Dollar Tree food or whatever the case may be.
And it's like, well, if it keeps them fed and it keeps them, you know, if it's making them happy, I just, you know, she, she created a

whole Thanksgiving meal on, you know, 20, $20. And then she also, you know, said if you wanted to

spend an extra five, like you could do this. And I thought that was really cool.
Um, nothing pisses me off more than people who want to shit on people that do things like that because I'm very like for the people who want to say and pass judgment I hope you're never in a position where you need to do that 1000% like I hate that shit nothing I don't think anybody that's ever sharing anything deserves to get any type of like hate.

I don't believe in that at all.

To me, I'm just the type of person that's like, if I don't agree with something, I might

shit talk about it to you.

Like I'll send it to you, but I'm not going to comment on their shit or I'll just keep

scrolling and be like, that was the dumbest shit I've ever seen.

Like it doesn't apply to me and I'll keep going.

Why is that such a difficult concept?

Like why does everybody feel the need to like project negativity and bullshit onto everybody all the time? Well, they don't have to leave it in the comment section. Like it's so to your friends or do you not have any cause you're a shit person? I don't know.
That seems like it's, it could be that too. A hundred percent.
I think it's a common like projection. You don't have any friends because at the end of the day like if i hate something if i feel strongly enough about something i'll send it to you or the group chat and just go about my business but right like who needs comment shit i mean here we are talking shit on a podcast talking shit about people talking shit that's fine right as long as we're talking shit about people talking shit.
Tell me all the things that you've done in Spain so far. We went to the Royal Palace on day one and that was actually really cool.
I always wonder how they preserve certain things. And I wish, obviously this is like first world problems or just whatever.
I wish that they were able to make it look more like how it was when they found it, because they have like all the artifacts and the items in cases where like sort of strategically placed throughout the house, I guess so people can walk through it. And I get that.
But for example, in one of the rooms where King Charles, King Charles III passed away, he passed away in his bedroom. I wish that they would have set it up like a bedroom.
Does that make sense? Because it's like you walk through the bedroom. But I guess, too, that might not make sense.
I take that back because people lived in it after King Charles III died. So I guess it would have been maybe somebody else's bedroom or maybe it wasn't used as a bedroom anymore so I guess that makes sense but the little like note card thing that like tells you about it if that is the way that you're presenting that room I just wish that they would there would be a way to present it as a bedroom because it didn't look like a bedroom it's so funny you say that because I actually stumbled on a tiktok that was showing Abraham Lincoln's deathbed.
Okay. I didn't even realize that he died in a bed.
Like, I thought he, I thought the story ended at, he got shot at the like theater. He would have survived that, but they searched for, they cut his head open and searched for the bullet and made his brain into mush.
Okay. So never, I didn't go past the got shot part ever.
Like just didn't. So I was like, what the fuck are they talking about? So I'm like looking at it and they like have the bedroom supposedly like, like it looks like a bedroom.
Like it's just a place you can go like go see is like the bed thing. But I'm like, I'm confused at like why the bed looks fine like the bed's made and stuff there's no like blood stains like that really confused i'm like if you're gonna like make it into like a artifact type thing why would you not leave it as is like so i was thinking the same thing so now that you're saying it about like the um royal palace i'm like okay at least i'm not crazy because i didn't think anyone else was

thinking the way i was thinking no i definitely but yeah like for that obviously no one probably

slept in that bed after he did right i would think not unless it did maybe but i'm just it's

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See nerdwallet.com for details. Well, so the palace was really cool.
The level of detail and the paintings that were on the ceiling of these rooms that had like 100-foot ceilings. I don't know if I'm being dramatic about that, but I don't know.
No concept of depth and measurement. So I have no idea.
It's sort of like the ancient Egyptian pyramids, right?

Like how the fuck do you do these crazy,

intricate paintings on the ceilings in the fucking 1700s?

Like I just, I can't, I'm like.

Resourceful.

They probably built like scaffolding.

Yeah.

But like even then to think about it,

you still have to be laying, I guess you would lay on your back and paint yeah because I feel like if you were doing like this it would be hitting at an angle but don't you feel like even then it would be sort of skewed to the position that you're in like I'm not gonna write the same way with my hand if I'm writing above me. Like, on a...
Yeah, because you have to get your... You would have to have your hand like this, basically.
Like, nothing. It's just so fascinating.
So Creed was like, wait, the king died in his room? Like, he was so fascinated. And then there was a crown.
I didn't get to see the little note card of, like, whose crown it was, but there was just some really, really cool stuff in there. And they had a one room that was probably more than one room, but that was completely granite.
It was all granite, like all the moldings on the wall and stuff. We did an aquarium.
We did Segovia, Tour of Segovia. I personally would not recommend that with kids.
I truly, if I'm being honest with you guys, I would not recommend coming to Madrid at all. For me, I just have not found it to be as fascinating as other places.
And I would not say that it's kid-friendly to go sightseeing. The sightseeing, the sightings are also very far from where we are.
So that could also play a role. Segovia specifically was really hard for Creed because he's four and it was a lot of walking.
And so you go and you see this castle and we thought we were going to get to go in the castle the same way to go inside the Royal palace. So we get there.
We do a lot of walking. We think that we're going to go into the castle.
And then Creed was all disappointed because we didn't get to go in the castle. And I can't blame them because I was also disappointed.
And so it was just one of those things where it's like, I guess if you have the time and you're in Madrid, like, sure. But like, don't spend 12 days in Madrid.
You know, like if you're going to drive through and maybe see someone like you could truly in one full day do Segovia, Toledo, the Royal Palace. And then I can't think of the fourth one.
You could do them all in one day. I mean, it would be a lot of driving, but you could do it.
And that's really all you need. A lot of this, it's giving big city in the US.
Okay.

So yes, there's history here. And I don't want anyone that's listening to this to be offended or upset by this.
But this is just my personal take on it. It's just if you have time to do it as an adult, maybe.
But like with kids, no. But I wouldn't have known that if I didn't come.
When I was trying to see like things that there were to do there to some suggestions, it, everything that I was finding was saying that it's not, like, the most family-friendly, like, place to go for an extended period of time. There's just, like, not too much to, like, do.
Yeah. And it's funny because I was talking to Alessandra about it and I was, like, telling her about, like, the ski thing that I had found.
And you were, like, you have to own your own skis. And she was like, well, it kind of makes sense in Europe.
Like because that like people would have snow gear and stuff like that. And they spend, it's so easy for them to travel country to country to country in Europe.
It's not like, we're not used to that. So like for us, it's foreign for them.
It's not. There was a European, I want to say he was from London and he was on TikTok and he was, he came, he's in the U S right now, or he was in the U S when I saw the video.
And he's like, you know, a lot of us in my country, we talk, we talk about why Americans don't, a lot of them don't have passports and a lot of them don't go anywhere. They don't leave the United States.
And he gave this whole perspective on how different each of the U.S. states are and why you don't really necessarily need to leave the country to see like really cool in different places because we have it all within the U.S.
but also that it's so expensive to travel within the United States itself that leaving the country is so expensive for America that a lot of Americans just don't do it so it's it's very different from in Europe. Like I can be in Portugal in five hours.
You know what I mean? Like I could be, you know, in another country and a couple hours, get on a train and it's not a big deal, but they, we don't have that luxury in the United States. Like we can't get on a train and go to Canada.
I mean, we could, I guess, in theory, I don't think we have a train to Canada. I don't know.
That's actually a good question. Cause I have never like the only trains that I've ever taken in my life are literally to New York city.

And I only take the express because I don't want to be on it for like an extended period

of time.

So like, I don't know, but I know train traveling by train is so popular in other countries.

Like that is like their main method of transportation and stuff.

And I'm like, what would that be like? Like I've never investigated like train routes to anywhere else besides New York. Well, I texted Isaac cause he did want to come on this trip, but because of the days of school that he would have had to miss and just the workload that it takes to make up work at his school, he was like, I just still can't swing it.
I texted him and I was like, you're not missing anything. And I'm glad that you made the decision you made because you would have lost your mind.
Like if he would have, if he would have decided to come here and have to make up that amount of work and miss out on that a month and miss out on that amount of in time, like real time stuff. I think he would have been really, really disappointed and really upset.
And I just told him, I was like, I'll take you somewhere next year. And you know, it'll be a time where you don't have school.
And he was like, okay. Yeah.
I mean, I just, I also think 12 days, I feel like is such a long time and all. Okay.
So let's get into the soccer portion for Lincoln. Cause like I've gotten zero updates.
Like, is he loving it? Does he not care? Is he like thriving? Is he not? Like what, I need to know all the things. So we're here for soccer.
For anyone who didn't know, I probably talked about it a hundred times. He was picked to play soccer here in Madrid.
And it's Saturday, the soccer program was Saturday to Saturday. But because the eight and a half hour flight and the six hour time change for us, it made more sense to extend the trip, both in the front of the trip and the back of the trip.
And I did originally have plans to go to Portugal after, because it is only a five hour drive with me getting strep and then how bad the food is and just sort of other logistics of where we're staying we were like no we're not going to Portugal we'll make a separate trip like absolutely not the soccer portion itself is every single day so from I'll do like a little run through of like this has been every single day for him so when people were messaging me on like Facebook or texting me and they're like hey Hey, did Lincoln get to play yet? Did Lincoln get to play yet? No, he got to play every single day. So it's not like, you know, a one and done, like we're came here to watch him play one time.
So Saturday to Saturday, 8.30 AM. And mind you, he's in a room with roommates.
So he's not staying in my room. He's not staying in the other room that we have.
He has two roommates in a room and we don't really see him. So it's like sort of like, um, like a college little experience, like a sleep away camp.
Yeah. Except for I'm in the hotel room down the road, down the hallway.
So eight 30 breakfast. And then they leave by nine to go to the soccer field and they're doing training sessions from nine to 11.
Then they have a snack time and then they do training from one to two and then they have lunch and then they do matches or other training sessions from five to seven.

And then they come home, eat dinner at eight, take a shower and lights out by 10.

So we don't see him except for we can go to games or we can go to a match, but we can't we can't go to the practices and stuff like that.

I don't know if we go to the practices, but which is so not not a thing for you guys because you and Javi are like at every practice so how are you guys dealing with that we have been doing better I think even at home too like I think that we sort of were holding ourselves to unrealistic expectations and standard standards for being at Lincoln's stuff before we had other kids. You know, I had Lux and Creed, but, you know, he and he had Eli.
But in certain situations, I feel like we were like, oh, we'll always be able to go to every single practice. And then, you know, the older that we got and the more kids that we had, specifically me.
But we, you know, he emailed me the one day and he's like, I'm not going to go to practices on your weeks. Like if you're going to be there, he only, he doesn't need us both to be at every single practice.
And so that kind of opened my eyes. And so it's been okay.
And I know that he's right here in the hotel and they, you know, go to the, it's, it's good. And so there was an opportunity for parents to go on a tour with the team.
And I looked at him and I said, do you want me to go on the tour or do you want to be with your friends? And he was like, I want to be with my friends. And I was like, okay.
So it was one of those things where like, I was trying to let him have a space. I think living with a roommate for a week has really opened his eyes because, you know, he doesn't even share a room at my house.
So

sharing a room with two people that you don't know that you've never met is truly like a college or sleepaway camp experience. I think he's really liked it overall.
I think it's hard meshing personalities together to sleep in the same room, but he's like, can I come shower in your room? Can I come take a poop in your room? Can I do? and so it's just been

I think as a mom

a really really good experience for him I don't know how he I don't know how he feels about it but I think for him as a mom I think it's really really great I think that's also really cool for Lincoln that all of you guys got to come for him oh and his aunt and his grandparents which is so cool. It's godmother which is really cool and his first you know that's his first cousin so and you have locks there and creed there like his some of his siblings came like i don't think this is i think lincoln will always remember this i don't think this is something like that he'll ever forget i don't think any i mean i think even lux and creed will remember it forever and lux and and Creed have been making the best of all of it.
And, you know, they've learned a lot on the trip. We've been practicing Spanish vocabulary because I can still get on the app for school.
And so Lux has been, and we're in the perfect place for that. And so we see words in Spanish and that's helping.
I mean, I would absolutely do another trip like this, just not here. And I would do a lot more research about where.
Because the other thing, too, is if I would have known Madrid is what it is, I maybe would have split the trip up with six days and six days being somewhere else. So that way it would have been.
Like two pieces? Yeah, because like I said, it would just take a train ride. I mean, I don't know if that's only for like European citizens.
I don't know how it works, but I think that with a little bit more research, I could have done a little bit different planning. I think too, like maybe if you knew how much you would not have seen Lincoln.
Right. That's the other part of it is like, you know, we've been going to the games at night, but.
Outside of that, you're't see him so yeah we I we didn't know I I and I'm that's fine like it's it all worked out and I think that it's all still fine but um yesterday we went to it was like a late late lunch early dinner in Segovia and for anyone that's listening to this that has a weak stomach and Kristen you're eating so I don't know if know if I should tell you, but like it is part of the story. So is this the picture that you were going to send me? And I was like, don't do that to me.
Yes. Okay, it's fine.
We're good. It'll be fine.
Well, trigger warning. It's about a dead animal.
So if you don't want to listen, skip the next 10 minutes. So we're at the, we had no idea what to expect.
This was included in the Segoviagovia tour you go into this restaurant it's been there for like decades and one of their traditional meals i guess you would say is like a whole roasted pig and it includes the face and the hooves and everything like they it took a video of it so i'll post it I don't know if Instagram will like shut me down, but I'll, I'll post it. So it's this guy, I don't remember what he's called.
So I'll do some research and figure out what this man is called, um, both his name and like what his title is, like what he does, but he wears a very specific outfit, we'll call it. And I'm pulling up the video right now.

And they serve the pig and it's on a plate.

And, you know, you can see it and you can see the things and the hooves and the things.

So he's holding a plate, like a dish, right?

And he's doing this speech.

And at the end of it, he cuts the pig down the spine with the plate.

Thank you. at the end of it he cuts the pig down the spine with the plate okay and then so he's cutting it down the spine and then he cuts it this way and then he throws the plate on the floor and it shatters and then you eat the pig did you eat it no the way that i would have been traumatized no Lux was traumatized Lux was oh my god you had the kids I did not even like wow wow other cultures have like this is not just Spanish culture because I know for a fact that other cultures do this and it could be like um like other Hispanic cultures and I and i'm sure other cultures in general do this but lux was so disturbed even elijah was sick and he couldn't eat so that surprised me because i feel like elijah eats everything he literally picks crabs like that's dead on your plate and it's a whole crab so to me i'm like i was a little bit shocked by his reaction to it but lux was really upset and we lost our appetite.
We didn't even eat the dinner itself, which was like other things besides pork. And we couldn't eat.
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It's so interesting to me because we've had conversations before about how I have someone in my family that he is Puerto Rican and Egyptian and his dad's Egyptian. His dad's also Muslim.
So his dad does. Yeah, they don't do pork.
So out of respect, he does not eat pork in front of his dad or around his dad. He has a twin brother and neither one of them will do it.
And I was telling you about it because I didn't understand. And you were saying how like poor Muslim people.
Well, it was something about pork is like dirty. Yeah.
So like here you're somewhere else and they like, it seems like it's like a delicacy. Yeah, like a delicacy or a traditional meal that they do.
That's so interesting to me. Like just like how some, you could literally have both sides of.
Well, so it's sort of the same and I don't think there's any religious I don't think there's religious contact or there might be actually some cultures won't eat like shrimp because they're like dirty yeah they're like bottom feeders and so in some cultures it's like we don't we don't eat shrimp for that reason and then in other cultures you're like throw shrimp on everything oh my god i never i because i literally have never left the country i've never even like researched like other that's so funny countries so i'm just like now that makes me want to know like what foods do y'all not eat compared to like foods oh that's a good question so that is really intriguing to me because like i wonder's the same thing with, like, I wonder if there's anywhere that doesn't eat chicken. I'm sure.
I'm sure there's places that don't. I mean, I don't know.
That's a good question. I do know that food poisoning is big around here.
When I Googled that and found that out, I was like, no, I'm telling this bitch immediately because she's got kids that'll be puking everywhere. My kids aren't eating a whole lot while we're here because the food is not great.
But two people have firsthand told me

that they had food poisoning here. So when I was looking stuff up, it seems like it was a

collective understanding that like we didn't know that Spain's food is like notoriously not good.

Well, I think that a lot of people who have not been here, and again, this is only speaking to

people who have not been here or are not familiar with any Spanish cultures, is that people assume

Thank you. Well, I think that a lot of people who have not been here, and again, this is only speaking to people who have not been here or are not familiar with any Spanish cultures, is that people assume, a lot of people assume that like Spanish food is one in the same, but it's not, right?

Like Puerto Rican food is very different than Spanish food in Spain, right?

Like you can't, you don't go to a restaurant here and ask for rice and beans. Okay.
So did you think that though, going in? Not necessarily. Because you're pretty like well-versed, I would say when it comes to different shit like that.
Cause you tell me this shit all the time. And I find it so fascinating.
You don't know the difference. I literally, in my head, it's a category of like, this is spicy and that's just Spanish.
I think that's what people think is that all Hispanic cultures are classified under one umbrella of Spanish food, but that's not the case. Spanish food is Spain.
Puerto Rican food is Puerto Rico. Mexican food is Mexico.
You know, Venezuelan food is Venezuela. I think it's very different.
And so I love like out of all the Hispanic foods that I've tried so far,

my number one and my number two is Puerto Rican food and Cuban food. Like those are my two favorite,

then probably Mexican number three. Right.
But Spanish food is not on the list. Like what is that? Um, that say that, um, TikTok, it's like M&M's not on the list.
Not on the list. No,

it's not. And it's, it's what it will be.
But so they have this dish called paella,

which we got on the first day and it's, it's a rice dish, but it still was absolutely awful.

It's a rice dish, but it still was absolutely awful. It like wasn't good.
Okay. And then I got crucified on TikTok because I was eating Italian food in Spain.
And I said, ma'am, I said, Spain is closer to Italy than the United States. What is the difference between eating Spanish or what is the difference between difference between eating Italian food in Spain and eating Italian food in the U S please explain that to me.
But I don't understand why anyone cares what you're eating in Spain. I'm sure we should be eating at Olive Garden in America.
The first thing he was eating was McDonald's. So I don't know.
So I don't understand why I'm getting yelled at for eating Italian food in Spain. Like I'm here to try all the things.
And when one thing isn't good, I'm going to try the next. And there is such a melting pot of people here in Spain, too.
Like I think we call America the melting pot, but Spain has so many different people here. And there's actually a lot of Asian food here as well.
Okay. Okay.

Yeah. I feel like you can always find Asian cuisine some, like, everywhere you've been.

Maybe.

But so that's what you're proving my point.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, I don't understand why anybody would care what the fuck you're eating.

Like, did I initially think you were crazy when you were like, I'm getting, like, a burger?

But then you told me about the seasoning

problem and I was like well you got to try it all till you find something you can eat or else you're gonna starve no there's literally nothing what else so what else has been different you were telling me about like there's no like um little like convenience stores and stuff okay So hotels in America have.

Like the little.

Yeah.

Like I don't think.

You'll. stores and stuff? Okay.
So hotels in America have like a little in them. Yeah.
Like I don't think you'll see a hotel with a convenience store in them more frequently than you won't. Here, there's no convenience items in the hotel.
So there's no little corner of the hotel that has snacks and toothbrushes and whatever else, like Tylenol, like they don't have that um there's also not a variety of snack foods in general like if you go to the grocery store we went to the grocery store and we got bananas apples and oranges as the kids snacks were in here but they don't have like a snack aisle and if they have an aisle that has snacks in it it's very minimal which is really just so interesting compared to America I mean there's a reason why we're obese and they're not here. Obviously, the outlets are different.
So if you're traveling to Europe and you've never been out of the country or you've never been to Europe specifically, you have to get an adapter. And this is an example of an adapter.
These are the prongs that they use Okay. Just check the country that you're going to and it'll, and then get the right adapter accordingly.
The convenience of things nearby is also like everything from where I'm at right now in this hotel is about 40 minutes. So there's not a whole lot that's like super close.
I was shocked. Like when you were initially telling me like all the things I was so shocked, but that's like, because I'm naive because I'm, I live where I live.
You know what I mean? Like I have a Wawa on every single corner. I have seven 11.
There's not like a convenience store nearby to like, go get a snack or go get it. Like there's just not that.
And then the executive lounge that's here, like upstairs, I, you know, I paid a little extra for it because in another hotel, when we went to Disney, it was like a snack bar with drinks. So if you needed a quick snack, you know, and, or small plate hors d'oeuvres, whatever, small, light breakfast, just like anything like that, that's sort of the vibes that I would thought it was.
No, there's no food up no food up there it's just drinks but a coke you can get a coke anywhere which we love but you did tell me it is not the same thing as a mexican coke don't let this bottle fool you this is not a mexican coke this is absolutely not a mexican coke um a mexican coke is different they are good but i was gonna say like whose is better spains or

mexico's mexico and then they're sugar baby they have uh fanta here and it's it tastes like carbonated orange juice it's not like a regular like soda yeah Excuse me?

Does that mean orange?

Yes.

Okay. But this tastes and smells and feels like carbonated orange juice.
But I will say that they're freshly. I don't, I'm not an orange juice drinker.
I don't like orange juice, but I will drink freshly squeezed orange juice. I do not like any sort of, what is it called from concentrate? I don't like fake orange juice.
Their fresh squeezed orange juice downstairs in the morning is really good. I'm trying to think what else is different.
I see a lot of the kids during the week that are going to school, they walk. There's a lot of walkers.
So I think their lifestyle here overall is just healthier than America. And so we're coming over here and not, it's like a shock to our system, right? Not even just the culture.
It's like the food, the, the, just being healthy, walking. Yeah.
I mean, think about our lifestyles. We are, most of us unless you are like working on your feet and with your hands and things like that most of us have office jobs to some degree we're we're completely sedentary um then we get in what do we get in cars trains buses whatever to subway system all that all those things to get home.
What are we doing? We're sitting again. What is like a huge pastime for people sitting and watching TV, sitting and watching sports, scrolling on our phone.
Like everything is about like sitting here. It seems like Europe in general is the complete opposite.
no and I can can get behind that part of it. Like, and I think if you added a little bit of seasoning, I'm not saying preservatives and chemicals and all that, but just like a little bit of seasoning, I can get behind it.
You know what I mean? And also just being outside all the time. Like it's soccer is so big over here.
I think that's why they also have the program. It's it's on the TV right now is all over.
And so all these families are coming out to go to the soccer and go to the practices and do this and do that with soccer and whatever other sports that you're playing. And so I think that's also big too, is like, you know, you're, you're getting out and you're grown people who are not even playing pro are just going outside and playing soccer for fun.
Which we don't do that.

No, like maybe an occasional softball tournament, but nobody's really going out there and doing

shit in America.

No.

And truly, I feel like even softball, like anytime I'm trying to think of people that

I know that play like group sports as adults, like everything I know about them is they

also like proceed to get wasted either like before, during, after, maybe all of it. So I feel like that's counterproductive.
That's a good point. I mean, the drinking age here is 18, but I think that they're so used to it that it's not a problem the same way it is in the US.
Yeah. No, I would agree.
I would wholeheartedly agree. I mean, I have my own thoughts on the drinking age.
I think it's insane that you can sign up for the military and do a bunch of things at 18, but you can't legally drink till 21. We've got it ass backwards on a variety of levels in the United States.
I mean, overall, it's definitely an experience. I personally like Barcelona and Mallorca, Spain better than Madrid.
But if you can stop for a day or two, definitely don't stay for two weeks. How fucked up do you think you're going to be coming home? I'm wondering the same fucking thing.
Oh, also on the way here, when we were stopping our flight here, had a layover in London. Our specific terminal had very little food options and what little food option there was, the one bao bun spot, my kids would not eat that.
They didn't know what it was. They weren't going to try it, whatever.
Nobody's problem, but my own. There was also no convenience store items in that place for kids.
So there was snacks there, but there was nothing for kids. No diapers, no wipes.
I don't have small children with me, obviously, but you know, I have Creed. They didn't have children's clothing.
So if you're traveling and you're doing like a layover situation or you're traveling at night so that you can wake up in the morning and be refreshed or whatever, like make sure that you have pajamas, diapers, wipes on deck in your carry on, because that is a mistake that if I would have brought Rio and the twins that I wouldn't, I don't think necessarily prepared for, cause I had never done it and I didn't really know what it looked like in our, not wing, our terminal of that airport L I think it was LWR LHR. I can't remember, um, of London.
There was, there was nothing. So just keep keep that in mind if anyone has any really long trips coming up pack a carry-on with sleeping items I wish that I would have put my kids in pajamas that makes sense draw extra clothes to change into when we got to the lounge we were able to use the lounge for British Airways um so just like a little travel tip and then also the coloring book bags were an absolute hit coloring books were a hit British Airways.
So just like a little travel tip. And then also the coloring book bags were an absolute hit.
Coloring books were a hit. British Airways, I cannot speak for all three.
Like there's first class, business class and coach. I don't know if coach has them, but where we were, they did have headphones already.
So I had bought them and put them in their backpacks ahead of time. You won't need those.
And I'm trying to think what else just to help anyone

that's traveling coming up. Coloring is big.
Do snacks. A lot of people think that you cannot bring snacks on a plane because you can't bring drinks on a plane.
That is not true. You can bring food through security.
You cannot bring liquid. So keep that in mind.
Pack your own tackle box tackle box of snacks um what else i feel like if you can get a

direct flight get that yeah we have a direct flight home and i'm just so fucking thankful

and we get six hours back so i'm hoping that we're gonna sleep so fucking hard do you want to say what you how you feel about spain elijah tell me tell me how you feel about spain wait what are you reading let me see that he has read more books than me. He's read four fucking books.
He's reading them in 24 hours because there's really nothing to do. So like, we'll go do something and then we come back and we read and the kids play like Creed got this little dinosaur thing at the zoo today.
And it's like sort of cute. It's like dinosaurs and like this like little flashlight.
And I'm like not letting him buy anything that won't fit in his backpack to go back on the plane but i mean these little things that keep him occupied and honestly they're working so it's like not a big deal but like you can um you make the shadows yeah yeah so um anyways for people are like how are you reading with kids on um there, they're self-sufficient. This book, shout out.
Her name is actually Alessandra also. Okay.
This book is the most sick and twisted thing I've read in a long time. And if you guys liked Never Lie by Frieda McFadden, I finally found a book that is comparable to that.
And that's saying a lot. That's saying a lot because that one is so fucking good.
This one is comparable to that. And this is so insane.
So who read it first? You read it first and then Elijah's reading it now? I'm almost done. And so when he finished his book today, which he started yesterday, he asked what he should read.
So I said that one. I'm reading it on my Kindle.
So Elijah, when are you going to come on Chapter 7 Book Club? he's already read he should read so I said that one I'm reading it on my Kindle so Elijah when are you going to come on chapter 7 book club he's already read he's read two books of book club picks sign him up he's leading the next one okay tell us about Spain tell her about what you think pros and cons talk about this seasoning tell me about about it. It's invisible.

It's not there, non-existent.

It's garlic.

Do they have pepper and just not salt?

So this would be their salt, and this would be their...

The only thing that they give you is that here you go.

Okay.

Salt, no, nothing.

This is sugar.

I know, I was using it.

So wait, so they don't have condiments like dipping?

They have...

It's just olive oil for everything.

Well, that makes sense.

That tracksuit.

What's olive oil going to be?

Nothing.

He's upset.

I mean...

He said we're going home.

We're going to pick a date.

We're going to make Thanksgiving dinner.

And we're going to have Thanksgiving because we're starving.

I told him my concerns. I said we're going to get home and I'm going to gain 20 pounds.
You're not going to gain 20 pounds. You're definitely probably going to gain at least five from everything that I know from people's like stories about Europe.
They lose a shit ton of weight when they go. And then of course, like our food's disgusting, like with chemicals and preservatives and whatever.
So they gain it back when they get home. Plus, you're not walking as much.
You're not doing all the things. So you probably will gain a little bit of weight.
You're probably going to swell a little bit just because we have nasty stuff. I don't have time because I'm getting a boob job.
So I don't have time for that. Like, I need to come here right before the boob job.
I need to come from, go to Europe, and then go right to boob job. Yeah.
How excited are we about the boob job? How excited are we about the boob job? Are you excited about the boob job? Elijah, are we excited about the boob job? I mean, how small are we going? I would like to have a full B. B? I think you're going to be a C.
I would like to be whatever Lindsay is. I think Lindsay's a full C.
He's like small D, full C, for sure. I think she told me

she's a double D, but I don't know. Like 28? 30? No, that's a back size.
That's not a...

I don't know. You said 28, 30.
I will never be a 28 30 i will never be a 28 i'll never be a 28 what is your life like you're probably a 28 right now i don't even what was your your bus size now that we had our little guest appearance from elijah um so like how has it been this is your first time each other. So like, how has that been? I haven't had any real issues.
I don't think with, I'm trying to think. Traveling internationally was fine.
I think getting sick and getting my period the same day the doctor told me I had strep, I also got my period. And that was really, really hard because I came into this room and have been trying to like hibernate in here and not get anyone else sick.
And so basically still needing to push through whatever I need to push through doing, like obviously this recording, but also going to Segovia, going to the zoo. Like those were things that I already booked and I paid for them in advance.
And then there was a museum of illusions. He ended up taking the kids there by, by himself.
And like, he's a trooper, he's fine. But it's like, that's the hard part, right? Like that though, that's the real challenge.
Cause I could travel with him. That's fine.
He's super helpful, you know, whatever, but being sick, having my period still needing to push through to do these things has been a lot because I'm not, my body clearly needed me to slow the fuck down and I didn't. And then I still didn't and I'm still not.
And so it's just that part is where I'm like, I'm burnt the fuck out and I just want to rip his head off, but it's not his fault. Right.
Like I can't expect him to read my mind. And so that's been a little bit challenging.
Um, but that's, I mean, that's the time of year as a whole. I think think everyone is ready for a break everyone's ready to like rip someone's head off because none of i don't know anybody in my personal life that like i know a few people in my personal life that slow down but i don't know that many people that slow down even when your bodies and we as women are so bad at that like that was like one of the first things that my neurologist told me he was like um with everything going on with like the ms and whatever he was like um ms is a woman like woman's disease um affects mostly women in their like early 30s is usually when you start getting symptoms and things like that and there's like huge links between like living life of like trauma and doing for others instead of paying attention to yourself and like that's just diseases as a whole like when you don't listen your body is gonna deteriorate it's gonna do it for you when you don't choose to take a step back and just slow the fuck down your body will do it for you and it's fucked up and it's in some ways causes more issues right like I can't expect my four and seven year old to just be okay sitting in a hotel all day long so I have to push through even though I don't feel up to it and if I didn't Elijah still has to come through for them because you know we traveled all the way over here we have to make the best of it we prepaid for things and I just you know I don't expect them to sit here in the hotel all day long so it's been it's been exhausting and I think just a learning curve I think moving forward we know you know to extensively because I just have gone off of past experiences and in other countries where it's like I do if the flight is really long like Hawaii for example we were there for over three weeks you know what I mean like I knew the flight time and the time change alone I could not get back on a flight with three kids in a week so we had also done it you have been so many times before you decided to bring all the kids you know what I mean so I think that that's different I'm sure that traveling with kids I mean having kids in general is like a whole different beast.
But I'm sure that like adding travel to that, like international travel is hard enough. But then adding kids to that because they do have way more energy than we do.
So like they're not going to want to just sit there. Like they don't want to have relaxing days.
Like they haven't hit that phase in their life where they like naps yet. You what I mean I mean they have liked the experience they have thought it like like I said Creed was really upset when we couldn't go in the castle so I I'm thankful for the experience in that way like they're able to see other places and I couldn't be more thankful for that and just you know Isaac's patience with you know him not being able to come or whatever but I think that we'll make up for it and if nothing else they all every single one of us got something from it and I think that's like the only that's what we can be thankful for um Elijah started his reading journey when we were here right like that's cool no that is that's actually really cool because I'm very interested to see if you guys continue reading similar books or if you only did because like that's what you had but like I wonder if he's going to pick his own books like I want to know Elijah's TBR well here's the thing and I was thinking about this when I couldn't sleep I was like listen the books sort of pay for themselves right because if I read them they got one use and then he reads them and then they get two uses if Isaac and Lincoln ever choose to read them then they'll get more and so like they end up paying for themselves and I feel I feel justified in not reselling them and I can keep them on my bookshelf so it's like okay this is it this could be good that's gonna be what you tackle when you get home is reorganizing your books no absolutely I was thinking about making a his and her shelf like the two black ones in the office love that like I have the little one in the middle that could be all the un.
And then the one, like one of the shelves is hers and one of the shelves is his for like what we've read. But then if we both read something, then what? I mean, I'm not a proponent of spending extra, but it looks like you might need to.
Well, I guess you better start reaching out to all of the authors. Hey.
No, I think that's so cute. I think there's always, I mean, there's negatives and positives with every trip, right? Like even not internationally, but I think that while the experience of Spain itself, like as Spain might not have been great, it seems like you've had a lot of other things coming from being in Spain that are good.
Yes, 100%. And like you said, I think that this is a trip that we will remember forever for good or bad reasons.
You know what I mean? Like, yeah, exactly. Who knows? Like funny jokes down the road.
You know, I think that, I don't know. I think about like, just like, like I will, my dad always was like the vacation planner.
And this one time he sent me and my mom to this, like, basically it was essentially an Airbnb before Airbnb was a thing that he had booked. And we went with my mom's friend.
And like the way we still talk about that shit to this day, because we thought me, my mom and her friend and her daughter all thought we were getting murdered on that trip. Like we still talk about it.
It was the worst trip I've ever been on. Shit was horrific.
Our door had bullet holes in it. Horrific or horrific? Horrific.
Horrific. Yeah.
It was, like, the door to the thing had bullet holes in it. The owners were just incredibly creepy.
There was, like, a girl hiding in a locked staircase. It was, there was, like, a, I'll have to tell you one day, but we think about that to this day.
And, like, trip my dad wasn't even on so it was a horrible trip my dad wasn't there and it's still fucking hilarious oh 100% you always will always I'm sure we're gonna laugh about this and we'll have jokes for date like yes Thanksgiving here was it was rough tell me about that like what so I know you signed up for Thanksgiving dinner the same day that you had whatever the pig experience was.

So what was Thanksgiving in Spain? We get back to the hotel after we do the tour of Segovia. And if you wanted to do a Thanksgiving dinner, it was $89, $89 American dollars per person.

And keep in mind, they don't season food. And it was a plate that was, again, this goes back to Europe being just, I guess, better than us.
It was a plate that had about this much food on it for $89 per person. and it was green beans, some sort of turkey roll.
I think there was meatloaf stuffed in it. Oh, okay.
And then a dollop of mashed potatoes that tasted like... Not potatoes? Correct.
It was... If I read the menu correctly, I think it had truffle in it.
Oh, well. I feel like I didn't read that part.
No, I didn't. It was...
I took a couple bites and I said, I'm going to head out for the night. Thank you so much.
Because they don't celebrate Thanksgiving here. But I guess because it's like an American program that partners with Madrid, that was how that happened.
And I think we're going to get a lot of hate on this episode. People are gonna be like, all Kale did was trash Spain.
But honestly, this location in Spain just wasn't for me. And maybe people can recommend places to go that have better food.
Yeah, like tell me where to go for soccer that has good food.

I know that this program specifically also partners in London and in Germany, but is, do they have the same problem with bland food in Germany and London? Because obviously we don't want to run into the same. Also, is it in like a better area? Is there more to do? Like I'm just wondering,aac texted me he said he really wants to go to greece i don't know how big soccer is over there so i don't know if that's something that i should plan to like do or you know whatever because lincoln has now encouraged lux who wants to do this program and it is a week long there's week-long camps in the united states um collectively we will not be back to this location yeah i mean it's a it's a one and done it's a one-time experience once in a lifetime i cannot wait to get home do you think they still sell whole turkeys after thanksgiving wait back the fuck up did you hear about the whole butterball turkey incident that was going on what did you not see this all over tiktok no it was like factually proven this is not alleged that butterball turkey like butterball um was they were getting...
I't even know the politically correct term for this but men at the warehouse were having sexual relations no they weren't with the butterball turkeys prior to thanksgiving no they weren't yeah they were i Like multiple men? Yes, ma'am. In multiple warehouses or in the same one? I don't know if it was multiple warehouses.
I'm about to look this up for you. Ma'am, how were they caught and what the fuck is going on? I don't know.
I don't know. So I'm pulling this up right now.
You gotta be fucking with me right now. Something was getting fucked and it's, it's not me fucking with you.
So PETA. No.
Wait, before they were alive. I mean, before they were dead, they came out with a YouTube video talking about it's not just Butterball, the disturbing abuse of animals.
Animal sexual abuse on farms happens every day across the country. Our investigators have witnessed these acts.
Sexual abuse on the animals, like while they're alive? I think yes, and probably also while dead, if i had to guess if if there's people sexually abusing corpses i'm gonna go like human corpses i'm gonna go with they've probably done it to animals as well what would possess a human being yeah i found it okay on november 5th the non-profit organization posted an interview clip with an unidentified investigator who claimed he witnessed harrowing instances of sexual assault against the live turkeys at the Butterball plant. In the graphic video, the undercover worker accused a Butterball employee of shoving his finger up a turkey's cloaca.
Another worker allegedly humped a turkey while it was restrained. So you're not missing much in the United States right now.
What the fuck? I don't know. But yes, they sell them.
Don't get a butterball because I don't know who's been in it. But we ate prime rib.
We didn't do the turkey this year so i'm at a loss for words like real words like we're assaulting animals like i heard about bestiality i guess it is um pretty late in life uh most recently which wasn't really that, was of an ex-Amish person who is on TikTok and talked about the sexual assault of animals in his experience in the Amish community.

And now this is like.

Yeah.

Like you're fingering turkey.

Yeah. Are they going to be fired? Are they going to be put in jail? I'm not entirely sure what's going on.
I'll have to do some follow-up investigating on that one. But I literally was like, you know what's sad? This shit didn't even really shock me.
Like there is not much in life anymore especially with human beings that shocks me isn't that sick no it is i'm so desensitized that it's not even funny and i think like that's just us as a generation across the fucking board and that's like really scary to think about but i literally was just like what for what like why, why would you do that? Like, what is wrong with a brain that would make you think that that was a great idea? Ugh. Yeah.
I, like, can't get over that. I'll never support Butterball again.
I was disgusted. So I was just like, okay.
So we skipped out on the turkey this year. Yeah.
I don't blame you. I don't blame you at all.
And I honestly, I'm not really a turkey fan anyway. So like I always say like I'm a sidesgiving type of bitch because I don't fuck with turkey.
So I do all the sides and no meat. But this year we didn't even have groceries till Wednesday night.
So we did, we did prime rib. What was the reasoning behind your, your last minute? Life has just been lifing.
And like, I feel like just across the board, I was, we were so unprepared for Thanksgiving. Like we had plans like a month ago, what we were going to do.
And then it just started getting closer and life is just life. And I was like, Hey guys, like, what are we doing on Wednesday? I called Corey at work.
I'm like something about groceries. Well, first of all, I was down sick for like a solid 24, over 24 hours puking my guts out the Monday preceding Thanksgiving.
So I was like, I don't even know if I'm going to even be eating anything at that point, or if I'll be alive. I didn't know.
We're both in our deathbeds in the same way. It was really, really bad.
So I was like, I don't know. And then Wednesday hits and I was like, hey, like, what's the plan? And Corey's like, oh, your mom got groceries.
And I'm like, no, she didn't. And he's like, she told me she was going to.
So I call my mom at work and she's like, no, I didn't. And I was like, okay, so we're going to.
1000%. I was like, our communication is trash in this house right now.
So we just whipped it together. And I was like, okay, well, fuck the turkey.
Let's do prime rib. Well, that's like actually awful.
Given what I just said, not, not do that to the turkey, but we're going to gonna skip the turkey and what if we did like first I said steak but it was gonna it was nasty here on Thanksgiving like it was so rainy no it was just during rain so I was like let's do steak and then I was like nah and I'm like oh why don't we do prime rib usually prime rib is our Christmas day dinner thing that's the only time of year we eat it so I was like well like, well, what if we just did it now? And then usually we do mashed potatoes, but I had this like recipe for scalloped potatoes in the crock pot that I wanted to try. So we did that.
And then I wanted green bean casserole. So I made that.
Mom wanted her candied sweets. She did that.
Corey wanted asparagus with like panko and Parmesan. He did that.
Corey ended up cooking everything yesterday. Actually, asparagus with panko and parmesan

sounds bomb as fuck.

You got to try it.

It's so good.

It's like our favorite way to eat it.

And you like put it in the oven so it like crisps up.

That sounds so good.

I've been in my crock pot air lately.

So I have a lot of recipes to send to you to try.

I actually cried the other night

because I was like, I can't go home to chaos.

I told Elijah today when we went to lunch, I was like, listen, the day before we leave Spain, we're doing an order before. So when I get to, when we land back in Philadelphia, I can place the order.
The groceries will be there when we get home. We're doing a full order meal planning for two weeks.
I want to have everything there ready to fucking go. I was like, because this is so chaotic for us to be living, you know, because we, there

was like a period of this year where we were eating dinners together, like four or five

nights a week.

And, oh my God, my kids love it.

We love it.

It just feels like, I don't know.

It just feels way better.

So I love that idea.

And I'm, I, if you send me that recipe, I want to try the pinko and parmesan.

So good.

And it's all easy crock pot crock pot's the way to go so we had two crock pots going i did i did my um green bean casserole in a crock pot and then i did my um i did we did the scallop potatoes so freaking good totally worth it we made like a beef stew like two weeks ago best thing ever ate cory made this like cheesy chicken broccoli rice thing bomb like we've been killing it with the crock pot thing so i'm so tired eating out and like it's the same thing every single day it's like nobody wants to think about dinner until it's like four o'clock five o'clock six o'clock at night what are we doing for dinner well now there's nothing taken out nobody prepped anything no one's in the mood to cook. Like, it's just four o'clock, five o'clock, six o'clock at night.
What are we doing for dinner? Well, now there's nothing taken out.

Nobody prepped anything.

No one's in the mood to cook.

Like, it's just annoying.

So I was just like, no, we're going to start crockpotting.

And I've been sending Corey recipes that I find on Facebook.

He's doing the majority of the cooking and stuff because he gets done work like usually earlier than I do.

So he's been doing that.

And we've been fucking thriving.

It's been great.

I love that for you.

I'm so happy for you. I definitely want to do the same.
Try two weeks. Sounds good.
In theory. I used to try to be on prep for two weeks and get all this stuff for it.
A lot of stuff would go bad. So try it for like, do like one, one week.
True. Cause I also don't have half the kids.
Um, well, no well no not half I also don't have two of the

kids for the second week so that's a good point yeah I'll try the I'll try the one week um Becky I was crying in bed texting Becky and she's like I'll I'll build your chat GPT to like I like paid for the premium one she's like I'll pay for it to like build whatever you need what what did I say chat she yeah i paid for the pro one or whatever so that she could help me do all the things. So when I get back, she's going to help me with that.
And then I'm excited to get home. I'm really excited to get home.
Are you excited or are you nervous? No, I'm excited to get home. I won't be home for long, obviously, because we have a big, big, big interview coming up for the following week of Barely Famous.
And i didn't want to put out a best of so if you guys hated this episode i'm really sorry and it was really just to catch up between me and kristen and yeah we wanted to tell you guys about spain i also just wanted i didn't want to put out something old and we have a really really really big interview coming up for Famous. And so, um, just trying to plan out the rest of this month.
I know that, um, during the holidays, it gets really crazy and a lot of people slow down listening to podcasts. So if you've made it this far, thank you so much.
I hope you all had a fantastic Thanksgiving. Um, I'm going to do Thanksgiving, I think December 14th is when we're going to do a Thanksgiving dinner because we're just so hungry.
You know, you guys deserve it after the lack of seasoning experience. I also wonder if you guys have been like off seasoning for this long when you get home and try like and season like what you're going to think.
Like I wonder if your taste buds are going to change. Like too salty.
Like are you going to be like,, whoa, culture shock again. Um, at the end of this month, when all my kids are with their dads, I am leaving again to get a boob job.
So the next time, actually I'll have, I'll be a brand new person in 2025 physically, not your face, not my face. I'm not touching my face.
All right, y'all stick with us. Next week is huge.
Thank you,

Kristen, for catching up on the Spain journey. I hope you had a happy Thanksgiving and I'll see

you when I get back from Spain. All right.
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See ya.

Bye.