Sleepless in Spain

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Speaker 3 Welcome to the shit show. Things are going to get weird.

Speaker 3 It's your fade villain, Kale Wower.

Speaker 3 And you're listening to Barely Famous.

Speaker 3 Hello.

Speaker 3 I'm eating dinner in Spain. Is it probably lunchtime over there?

Speaker 6 It's 1:18 p.m. here, so it's 7.18 p.m.
where you are. Yeah, yeah, so dinner, should have already eaten something for the day, haven't, but I'm about to eat some leftovers.

Speaker 3 I am so jealous of your leftovers. The food here is absolutely disgusting.

Speaker 3 And my recommendation, if anyone listening to this podcast, is obviously always be thankful, grateful, blessed that you're able to travel, which I am so thankful.

Speaker 3 Um, but the food here is absolutely awful. So, my recommendation would be to probably not come to Madrid, it would be to go to Barcelona, Mallorca, Valencia, even, but absolutely not not here.

Speaker 3 I was diagnosed with, is diagnose the right word? That feels really dramatic.

Speaker 3 To say I was diagnosed with strep throat. I have strep throat, so I'm currently on

Speaker 3 ibuprofen

Speaker 3 and the lovely steroid prednisone.

Speaker 3 They also prescribed me a

Speaker 3 probiotic, which is nice.

Speaker 3 That was really kind of them. And I'm just truly pushing through.
This is the first day that I don't feel like I'm swallowing glass. So I'm able to actually,

Speaker 3 they're still swollen, but I'm able to swallow it down. Should we talk about why you got strep throat?

Speaker 6 Because it's absolutely because you haven't been sleeping.

Speaker 3 We need to talk to a doctor. Okay.
Like, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 This is the craziest

Speaker 3 connection, but I...

Speaker 3 Because you have to be exposed to that bacteria or to that virus or to whatever in order to get said illness, right?

Speaker 3 Like the people that say, Oh, if you go outside in the cold, you're going to get sick. No, actually, that's not how it works.
You have to be exposed to said illness, right?

Speaker 3 For some reason,

Speaker 3 every time I don't sleep for several days in a row, and when I say don't sleep, I mean significant, significant hours in the night where I'm not sleeping.

Speaker 3 I'm not just talking about waking up once, twice, three times, tossing the turn, like truly not sleeping, up from one to five, up from one to four, just really, really bad sleep um that la trip fucked me up so i'm wondering if

Speaker 3 either i was exposed to strep that caused me to not sleep for those days leading up to having strep or

Speaker 3 if not sleeping i couldn't i couldn't fight off

Speaker 3 the exposure to strep like i just don't understand why it's always strep like kristen you've known me for 13 years

Speaker 3 why when i don't sleep i immediately get strep what is i don't understand you have had strep in 13 years

Speaker 6 at least 15 times at least 15 times do you know how many times i've had strep in those same 13 years never

Speaker 6 hasn't happened it's not it's not common like in adults it's not common at all i do know a little bit about strep like bacteria or whatever it is so like

Speaker 6 it is everywhere It is so everywhere. So I think personally,

Speaker 6 you are so affected by lack of sleep. Like, I think there's a lot of things that affect people differently.
I don't think not sleeping is good for any of us, but like, I can handle not sleeping.

Speaker 6 Like, it doesn't do to me what it does to you. Like,

Speaker 6 my brain will be foggy, but like, you get fucked up.

Speaker 6 Like, you immediately, and it's actually crazy now that I put this connection together because when you were texting me about your neck and your throat and whatever, I'm out here thinking like, COVID or the flu or something like that.

Speaker 6 Never did I think strep, even though I knew your ass has been up all the the time because we've literally texted basically the whole time you've been gone at every single hour that I've been awake.

Speaker 6 So I didn't put the connection together, but like, and you get strep bad. Like, I have never in my life seen someone's tonsils swell to the size that I don't know how you breathe.

Speaker 3 They look like balls, literal balls in your throat.

Speaker 3 Out of all the times I've gotten strep throat,

Speaker 3 two times have been horrible.

Speaker 3 One time was in high school where I tried to drink a soda and it came out my nose because my throat was so so big i missed two weeks of school two full weeks like five days and five days

Speaker 3 and then this time those are the two times that it was the worst out of all um i don't know but the honestly you saved my life i'm not even kidding like i'm not even being dramatic like that night before i got diagnosed i feel just dramatic to say that you were diagnosed with strep yep diagnosed with strep um I was in the bed.

Speaker 3 I have two, we have two hotel rooms. So Elisha was like, you need to sleep in this room by yourself.
Like you can't, you can't be with the kids.

Speaker 3 I was planning out how I was going to go to the hospital and I was going to have to stay there. And Elijah was going to have to fly home with the kids.

Speaker 3 And we were going to have to explain this to Javi and Chris. Like, I was like, I'm going to die.

Speaker 3 Like, I literally took on my comforter from this room, the comforter from that room, put on my jacket, laid in the bed, and I'm literally convulsing. My teeth are chattering.

Speaker 3 Like, I didn't know what was going on because that's not a common symptom that I get with strep.

Speaker 3 But this is the

Speaker 3 all the stuff. And I don't know how to pronounce it.
Yeah, I don't know how to pronounce it in Spanish because it's like a crazy name.

Speaker 3 But she said that, first of all, you sent me a link. The doctor was at my hotel to see me within 45 minutes.
I didn't even have to go anywhere. So that was so.

Speaker 6 Truly love that. So you thought you were going to go to the hospital and die.
I was like, we're finding someone like concierge medicine. We were on very different thought patterns.

Speaker 3 No, because I had never experienced this level of symptoms. Yeah.

Speaker 3 The only thing that I knew it was strep was because my neck, my throat, and and then the white patches. So I was like, okay, obviously it's strep, but like, what are these other symptoms?

Speaker 3 Like, I'm definitely going to die.

Speaker 6 So, um, my biggest fear is when we've had to travel, me getting sick and having to like literally get help in a different state. So, I can't imagine the panic of having

Speaker 3 like in it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that scared the shit out of me, which it's funny because when I was like looking at where you were to find like restaurants and stuff,

Speaker 6 and I was like on your location, I already had found the nearest hospital, which was across the highway. But then when I Googled it, it had bad reviews.
So I was like, we're not sending her there.

Speaker 3 I always get prescribed prednisone when I have it because my

Speaker 3 tonsils get so big, so it helps the swelling. And I was like,

Speaker 3 I don't know how Spain feels about like prescribing. I don't know how it works.

Speaker 6 No, you don't. It's so different.
Right.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 when I told her,

Speaker 3 she's like, you know, I have to give you antibiotics or you're not going to, you can't fight this on your own. I was like, I know.

Speaker 3 And I was like, when I normally get it, I also go on a steroid. And she said, I can prescribe you prednisone.
So then I was also like, okay, because I don't know. We're in Europe.

Speaker 3 Like, I don't know what they, how they feel or what, how they treat things. And

Speaker 3 I was just thankful. I was so thankful.
And she was here so fast. She got it through.

Speaker 3 The pharmacy was quick. Everything was good.

Speaker 6 When you told me how fast they were coming, I was like,

Speaker 6 we couldn't, that would never happen here.

Speaker 6 That would never happen here.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 6 So I was like very thankful, but also very jealous. Cause I was like, damn it.

Speaker 3 Never be us.

Speaker 6 But literally, it could never be us.

Speaker 6 I had to tell you.

Speaker 3 No, I'm so excited. They announced the Stitch movie coming out.
I love it.

Speaker 6 This was one of my birthday gifts from Corbin.

Speaker 3 Well, I'm glad you're finally drinking out of Stanley's.

Speaker 6 I am. Especially with.

Speaker 6 Your handy dandy straw toppers that you got me.

Speaker 3 Straw toppers. Yes.
I'm not.

Speaker 6 I this is me. When if it, if it's like, if he forgets to put one in and it sat there for a little bit, I'm like,

Speaker 3 why are you and I the same person? Because Isaac has the Olivia Rodrigo one and he left it in the classroom.

Speaker 3 Um, he got it back and he's like, I can't drink out of it. I'll never look at it the same with the straw.
And I me and Elijah are like, change the straw. Replace the straw.

Speaker 6 Yep.

Speaker 3 That's literally just so suspect about it.

Speaker 6 I don't know why. I'm just like, there's definitely a bug in here.

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 3 When I went to Thailand, I had a spider in my straw, but I saw it. It was.

Speaker 6 I think that really did me in. Like, for you.
Thanks. Thank you.
I think that really I'm also eating alongside you. This would be Thanksgiving leftovers.

Speaker 3 I'm so jealous. The food here is absolutely horrible.
I don't know what anyone says.

Speaker 3 I need to know.

Speaker 3 Is it

Speaker 3 go ahead?

Speaker 6 Is it seasoning? Is it spice? Is it flavor? Like, what is that?

Speaker 3 For anyone listening to this and tells me, oh, just go get Spanish food. Oh, go get paella.
Oh, go get croquettes. They're disgusting.
They're horrible. They have no flavor, no salt.

Speaker 3 They don't believe in salt here.

Speaker 3 There's no seasoning. Elijah is like, I'm going home and I'm making Thanksgiving dinner because he was like, I don't know what to do.
He, we went to Segovia yesterday for a tour.

Speaker 3 He's like, should I go to the store and see if they have salt and pepper? Like, he's like, there's no flavor. Like, even this potato is fucking plain.
The meat is plain. Everything is plain.

Speaker 3 There's no, there's nothing. We talked to Javi's family.
They're like, no, the food is

Speaker 3 no.

Speaker 6 I feel like now

Speaker 6 your next big invention is going to be like travel-size condiments.

Speaker 3 Because it's got to be,

Speaker 6 it has to be like

Speaker 6 a universal problem, I feel like. Like, there's got to be more countries and stuff that have like

Speaker 6 no seasoning.

Speaker 3 Well, I think it's, it's pretty common across Europe.

Speaker 6 Which is, I mean, they say that Europe has like the healthiest food and stuff.

Speaker 3 And I love that.

Speaker 6 Do we feel like you've lost weight? Because your face looks thinner.

Speaker 3 Well, I don't know because the prednisone is making me hungry, which is not really helping.

Speaker 3 I think I'm going to gain 20 pounds when I get back to the US, like immediately gain it as soon as I look at the food.

Speaker 6 I mean, probably.

Speaker 6 Like, I'm probably eating chemical-filled things at this exact moment. And I made them from scratch, but I made them with things that weren't from scratch.

Speaker 3 We talk about how while I've been sitting in my hotel room crying about how sick I am, I was scrolling on TikTok. And did you see on TikTok the

Speaker 3 Dollar Tree meals woman?

Speaker 3 I bawled my fucking eyes out because this guy was telling the story about how he went to the Dollar Tree and saw this woman and like was picking out all the ingredients from her TikTok.

Speaker 3 And then I found her and I saw her and I was like, oh my God, like this, I'm obsessed with this and I love this and we need more of this in the world.

Speaker 6 1000%. I was so, I I was also just very impressed.

Speaker 6 Like, so impressed. Like, I love resourceful people.
I follow so many resourceful people because I feel like it teaches me stuff. And I love learning new stuff all the time.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Roy and I, not to that level, but like we,

Speaker 6 like, I'm talking like within the last six years, we used to dollar store food shop.

Speaker 6 Like to just put it together with whatever we could do. And some of those meals were like probably not the best for you, but like

Speaker 3 at least they fed you.

Speaker 6 they fed me. Yeah,

Speaker 6 literally no complaints. That's why I'm always like

Speaker 6 I think people forget about dollar stores for like anything in general. Yeah, it's not a dollar anymore, obviously with like inflation and stuff, but like I think people do forget that they exist.

Speaker 3 No, for sure. They definitely available to a lot of people.

Speaker 3 I think on coffee combos, I told Lindsay about the dollar, the family dollar that's on my street. And I will go down there and grab a box of hamburger helper.
I don't give a shit. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You know, it'll feed the whole family or whatever. But I love resourceful people, and I love that they're sharing it, and there's no shame in it.

Speaker 3 Because at the end of the day, I think they're helping way more people than you know, the people that are judging, like, oh my god, they made their Thanksgiving out of you know, Dollar Tree food or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 3 And it's like, well, if it keeps them fed and it keeps them, you know, if it's making them happy, I just, you know, she created a whole Thanksgiving meal on you know, $20, $20.

Speaker 3 And then she also, you know, said, if you wanted to spend an extra five, like you could do this. And I thought that was really cool.

Speaker 6 Nothing pisses me off more than people who want to shit on people that do things like that because I'm very, like, for the people who want to say and pass judgment, I hope you're never in a position where you need to do that.

Speaker 3 1000%.

Speaker 6 Like, I hate that shit. Nothing, I don't think anybody that's ever sharing anything deserves to get any type of like hate.
I don't believe in that at all.

Speaker 6 To me, I'm just the type of person that's like, if I don't agree with something, I might shit talk about it to you. Like, I'll send it to you, but I'm not going to go comment on their shit.

Speaker 6 Or I'll just keep scrolling and be like, that was the dumbest shit I've ever seen. Like, it doesn't apply to me.
And I'll keep going.

Speaker 6 Why is that such a difficult concept? Like, why does everybody feel the need to like project negativity and bullshit onto everybody all the time?

Speaker 3 Well, they don't have to leave it in the comment section. Like, it's so

Speaker 6 to your friends, or do you not have any? Cause you're a shit person. I don't know.
That seems like it's, it could be that too.

Speaker 3 100%. I think it's a combination, like projection.
You don't have any friends.

Speaker 3 Because at the end of the day, like if I hate something, if I feel strongly enough about something, I'll send it to you or the group chat and just go about my business.

Speaker 3 Like who needs to comment shit?

Speaker 3 I mean, here we are talking shit on a podcast.

Speaker 6 Talking shit about people talking shit.

Speaker 3 That's fine, right? As long as we're talking shit about people talking shit.

Speaker 6 Tell me all the things that you've done in Spain so far.

Speaker 3 We went to the royal palace on day one, and that was actually really cool. I always wonder how they preserve certain things.
And I wish, obviously, this is like first world problems or just whatever.

Speaker 3 I wish that they were able to make it look more like how it was when they found it because they have like all the artifacts and the items in cases where

Speaker 3 like sort of strategically placed throughout the house. I guess so people can walk through it and I get that.

Speaker 3 But for example, in one of the rooms where kings charlie king charles the third passed away he passed away in his bedroom i wish that they would have

Speaker 3 set it up like a bedroom does that make sense because it's like you walk through the bedroom but i guess too that might not make sense so i i take that back because people lived in it after king charles ii died so i guess it would have been maybe somebody else's bedroom or maybe it wasn't used as a bedroom anymore so i guess that makes sense but the little like note card thing that like tells you about it

Speaker 3 if that is the way that you're presenting that room, I just wish that there would be a way to

Speaker 3 present it as a bedroom because it didn't look like a bedroom.

Speaker 6 It's so funny you say that because I actually stumbled on a TikTok that was showing Abraham Lincoln's deathbed. Okay.

Speaker 6 I didn't even realize that he died in a bed.

Speaker 3 Like, I thought the story died.

Speaker 6 I thought he, I thought the story ended at he got shot at the like theater.

Speaker 3 He would have survived that, but they searched for, they cut his head open and searched for the bullet and made his brain into mush. Okay, so never I didn't go past the got shot part ever.

Speaker 6 Like just didn't. So I was like, what the fuck are they talking about? So I'm like looking at it and they like have the bedroom supposedly like like it looks like a bedroom.

Speaker 6 Like it's just a place you can go like go see is like the bed thing. But I'm like

Speaker 6 I'm confused at like why the bed looks fine. Like the bed's made and stuff.
There's no like bloodstains like nothing. That really confused.

Speaker 6 I'm like, if you're gonna like make it it into like an artifact type thing, why would you not leave it as is? Like, so I was thinking the same thing.

Speaker 6 So now that you're saying it about like the Royal Palace, I'm like, okay, at least I'm not crazy. So I didn't think anyone else was thinking the way that I was thinking.

Speaker 3 No, I definitely, but

Speaker 3 yeah, like for that, obviously, no one probably slept in that bed after he did, right?

Speaker 6 I would think not.

Speaker 3 Unless his wife did.

Speaker 6 Maybe, but I'm just, it's just, I don't know. To me, it's just like

Speaker 6 either show it all or like, what am I looking at?

Speaker 3 Well, so

Speaker 3 the palace was really cool. The

Speaker 3 level of detail and the paintings that were on the ceiling of these rooms that had like 100-foot ceilings.

Speaker 3 I don't know if I'm being dramatic about that, but I don't don't have, I don't know, no concept of depth and measurement. So,

Speaker 3 um,

Speaker 3 I

Speaker 3 have no idea. It's, it's sort of like

Speaker 3 the ancient Egyptian pyramids, right? Like, how the fuck do you do these crazy, intricate paintings on the ceilings in the fucking 1700s? Like, I just, I can't, I'm like

Speaker 6 resourceful.

Speaker 6 They probably built like scaffolding. Scaffolding.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but like even then to think about it, you still have to be laying, I guess you would lay on your back

Speaker 3 and paint.

Speaker 6 Yeah, because I feel like if you were doing like this, it would be hitting at an angle.

Speaker 3 But don't you feel like even then it would be sort of skewed to the position that you're in? Like I'm not going to write the same way with my hand if I'm writing above me that I don't want to.

Speaker 6 Yeah, because you have to get your hand, you would have to have your hand like this, basically.

Speaker 6 Like, nothing.

Speaker 3 It's just so fascinating. So, Creed was like, wait, the king died in his room.
Like, he was just so fascinated. And then there was a crown.

Speaker 3 I didn't get to see the little note card of like whose crown it was, but there was just some really, really cool stuff in there. And

Speaker 3 they had a one room that was probably more than one room, but that was completely granite. It was all

Speaker 3 granite. Every like all the moldings on the wall and stuff.
We did an aquarium.

Speaker 3 We did Segovia, a tour of Segovia. I personally would not recommend that with kids.
Truly, if I'm being honest with you guys, I would not recommend coming to Madrid at all.

Speaker 3 For me, I just have not found it to be as fascinating as other places. And I would not say that it's kid-friendly to go sightseeing.

Speaker 3 The sightseeing, the sightings are also very far from where we are so that could also play a role so govia specifically was really hard for creed because he's four and it was a lot of walking and so you go and you see this castle and we thought we were going to get to go in the castle the same way to go inside the royal palace so we get there we do a lot of walking we think that we're going to go into the castle and then creed was all disappointed because we didn't get to go in the castle and i can't blame him because i was also disappointed And so it was just one of those things where it's like, I guess if you have the time and you're in Madrid, like, sure, but like, don't spend 12 days in Madrid, you know, like if you're going to drive through and maybe see some of like you could truly in one full day do Segovia, Toledo, the Royal Palace, and then I can't think of the fourth one.

Speaker 3 Um, you could do them all in one day. I mean, it would be a lot of driving, but you could do it.
Um, and that's really all you need. A lot of this, it's, it's giving, it's giving big city in the U.S.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 So, yes, there's history here, and I don't want anyone that's listening to this to be offended or upset by this, but this is just my personal take on it.

Speaker 3 It's just, if you have time to do it as an adult, maybe, but like with kids, no.

Speaker 3 But I wouldn't have known that if I didn't come.

Speaker 6 When I was trying to see like things that there were to do there to like send some suggestions,

Speaker 6 everything that I was finding was saying that it's not like the most family-friendly

Speaker 6 like place to go for an extended period of time. There's just like not.
too much to like do.

Speaker 6 And it's funny because I was talking to Alessandra about it and i was like telling her about like the ski thing that i had found and you were like you have to own your own skis and she was like well it kind of makes sense in europe like because that like people would have snow gear and stuff like that and they spend it's so easy for them to travel country to country to country in europe it's not like we're not used to that so like for us it's foreign for them it's not There was a European, I want to say he was from London and he was on TikTok and he was he came he's in the US right now or he was in the U.S.

Speaker 3 when I saw the video. And he's like, you know,

Speaker 3 a lot of us in my country, we talk, we talk about why Americans don't, a lot of them don't have passports and a lot of them don't go anywhere. They don't leave the United States.

Speaker 3 And he gave this whole perspective on how different each of the U.S.

Speaker 3 states are and why you don't really necessarily need to leave the country to see like really cool and different places because we have it all within the U.S.

Speaker 3 But also that it's so expensive to travel within the United States itself that leaving the country is so expensive for America that a lot of Americans just don't do it.

Speaker 3 So it's, it's very different from in Europe. Like I can be in Portugal in five hours.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Like I could be, you know, in another country in a couple hours, get on a train and it's not a big deal. But they, we don't have that luxury in the United States.

Speaker 3 Like we can't get on a train and go to Canada. I mean, we could, I guess, in theory.
I don't think we have a train to Canada. I don't know.

Speaker 6 That's actually a good question because I have never like

Speaker 6 the only trains that I've ever taken in my life are literally to New York City and and I only take the express because I don't want to be on it for like an extended period of time. So like

Speaker 6 I don't know, but I know train traveling by train is so popular in other countries. Like that is like their main method of transportation and stuff.
And I'm like, what would that be like?

Speaker 6 Like I've never investigated like train routes to anywhere else besides New York.

Speaker 3 Well, I texted Isaac because he did want to come on this trip, but because of the days of school that he would have had to miss and just the workload that it takes to make up work at his school he was like i just still can't swing it i texted him and i was like you're not missing anything and i'm glad that you made the decision you made because you would have lost your mind like if he would have if he would have

Speaker 3 decided to come here and have to make up that amount of work and miss out on that amount and miss out on that amount of in time like real-time stuff I think he would have been really, really disappointed and really upset.

Speaker 3 And I just told him, I was like, I'll take you somewhere next year. And, you know, it'll be a time where you don't have school.
And he was like, okay.

Speaker 6 Yeah. I mean, I just, I also think

Speaker 6 12 days, I feel like, is such a long time. And okay, so let's get into the soccer portion for Lincoln.
Cause like, I've gotten zero updates. Like, is he loving it? Does he not care?

Speaker 6 Is he like thriving? Is he not? Like, what? I need to know all the things.

Speaker 3 So we're here for soccer. For anyone who didn't know, I probably talked about it a hundred times.

Speaker 3 He was picked to play soccer here in Madrid. and it's Saturday, the soccer program was Saturday to Saturday.

Speaker 3 But because the eight and a half-hour flight and the six-hour time change, for us, it made more sense to extend the trip both in the front of the trip and the back of the trip.

Speaker 3 And I did originally have plans to go to Portugal after because it is only a five-hour drive.

Speaker 3 With me getting stripped and then how bad the food is, and just sort of other logistics of where we're staying,

Speaker 3 we were like, no, we're not going to Portugal. We'll make a separate trip.
Like, absolutely not. The soccer portion itself is every single day.

Speaker 3 So from, I'll do like a little run-through of like, this has been every single day for him.

Speaker 3 So when people were messaging me on like Facebook or texting me and they're like, hey, did Lincoln get to play yet? Did Lincoln get to play yet? No, he got to play every single day.

Speaker 3 So it's not like, you know, a one and dot, like we're paying here to watch him play one time. So Saturday to Saturday, 8:30 a.m.
And mind you, he's in a room with roommates.

Speaker 3 So he's not staying in my room. He's not staying in the the other room that we have.
He has two roommates in a room, and we don't really see him.

Speaker 3 So it's like sort of like a college little experience, like a sleepaway camp. Yeah.
Except for I'm in the hotel room down the road, down the hallway.

Speaker 3 So 8:30 breakfast, and then they leave by 9 to go to the soccer field. And they're doing training sessions from 9 to 11.
Then they have a snack time and then they do training from 1 to 2.

Speaker 3 And then they have lunch. And then they do

Speaker 3 matches or other training sessions from 5 to 7. And then they come home, eat dinner at 8, take a shower, and lights out by ten.
So we don't see him except for

Speaker 3 um, we can go to games or we can go to a match, but we can't like we can't go to the practices and stuff. Like, that's, or I don't know if we can go to the practices, but um,

Speaker 6 which is so not a thing for you guys because you and Javi are like at every practice. So, how are you guys dealing with that?

Speaker 3 We have been doing better, I think, even at home, too. Like,

Speaker 3 I think that we sort of were holding ourselves to unrealistic expectations and standards for being at Lincoln's stuff before we had other kids.

Speaker 3 You know, I had Lux and Creed, but, you know, he and he had Eli, but in certain situations, I feel like we were like, oh, we'll always be able to go to every single practice.

Speaker 3 And then, you know, the older that we got and the more kids that we had, specifically me.

Speaker 3 But we, you know, he emailed me the one day and he's like, I'm not going to go to practices on your weeks.

Speaker 3 Like, if you're going to be there, he only, he doesn't need us both to be at every single practice. And so, that kind of opened my eyes.
And so, it's been okay.

Speaker 3 And I know that he's right here in the hotel and they, you know, go to the, it's, it's good. And so, there was an opportunity for parents to go on a tour with the team.

Speaker 3 And I looked at him and I said, Do you want me to go on the tour or do you want to be with your friends?

Speaker 3 And he was like, I want to be with my friends. And I was like, Okay.

Speaker 3 So, it was one of those things where, like, I was trying to let him have his face.

Speaker 3 I think living with a roommate for a week has really opened his eyes because, you know, he doesn't even share a room at my house.

Speaker 3 So sharing a room with two people that you don't know, that you've never met is truly like a college or sleepaway camp experience. I think he's really liked it overall.

Speaker 3 I think it's hard meshing personalities together to sleep in the same room, but he's like, Can I come shower in your room? Can I come take a poop in your room? Can I do?

Speaker 3 And so it's just been, I think, as a mom, a really, really good experience for him.

Speaker 3 I don't know how he,

Speaker 3 I don't know how he feels about it, but I think for him as a mom, I think it's really, really great.

Speaker 6 I think that's also really cool for Lincoln that all of you guys got to come for him.

Speaker 3 Oh, and his aunt and his grandparents, which is so cool.

Speaker 3 It's also his godmother, which is really cool. And his first, you know, that's his first cousin.

Speaker 6 So and you have Lux there and Creed there, like his, some of his siblings came. Like, I don't think this is, I think Lincoln will always remember this.

Speaker 6 I don't think this is something like that he'll ever forget.

Speaker 3 I don't think any, I mean, I think even Lux and Creed will remember it forever.

Speaker 3 And Lux and Creed have been making the best of all of it. And you know, they've learned a lot on the trip.
We've been practicing

Speaker 3 Spanish vocabulary because I can still get on the app for school. And so Lux has been, and we're in the perfect place for that.
And so we see words in Spanish, and that's helping.

Speaker 3 I mean, I would absolutely do another trip like this, just not here.

Speaker 3 And I would do a lot more research about where.

Speaker 3 Because the other thing, too, is if I would have known Madrid is what it is I maybe would have split the trip up with six days and six days being somewhere else so that way it would have been

Speaker 3 Yeah, because like I said, it would just take a train ride. I mean, I don't know if that's only for like European Citizens.

Speaker 3 I don't know how it works, but I think that with a little bit more research, I could have done a little bit different planning.

Speaker 6 I think too, like

Speaker 6 maybe if you knew how much you would not have seen Lincoln,

Speaker 3 right? That's the other part of it is like, you know, we've been going to the games at night, but.

Speaker 6 Outside of that, you're like, I don't see him.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, we didn't know. I, I, I, and I'm, that's fine.
Like, it's, it all worked out. And I think that it's all still fine.

Speaker 3 But yesterday we went to, it was like a late, late lunch, early dinner in Segovia. And for anyone that's listening to this that has a weak stomach and Kristen, you're eating.

Speaker 3 So I don't know if I should tell you, but like it is part of the story.

Speaker 6 So is this the picture that you were going to send me? And I was like, don't do that to me. Yes, okay, it's fine.

Speaker 3 We're good, it'll be fine. Well, trigger warning, it's about a dead animal.
So, if you don't want to listen, skip the next 10 minutes. Um,

Speaker 3 so we're at the, we had no idea what to expect. This was included in the Segovia tour.
You go into this restaurant, it's been there for like decades, and one of their

Speaker 3 traditional meals, I guess you would say, is like a whole roasted pig.

Speaker 3 And it includes the face and the hooves and everything like they I took a video of it so I'll post it I don't know if Instagram will like shut me down but I'll post it

Speaker 3 so it's this guy I don't remember what he's called so I'll do some research and figure out what this man is called both his name and like what his title is like what he does

Speaker 3 but he wears a very specific outfit we'll call it and I'm pulling up the video right now And they serve the pig and it's on a plate.

Speaker 3 And, you know, you can see it and you can see the things and the hooves and the things so

Speaker 3 at the he's holding a plate like a like a dish right and he's doing this speech

Speaker 3 and at the end of it he

Speaker 3 cuts the pig down the spine with the plate

Speaker 3 okay

Speaker 3 and then so he's cutting it down the spine and then he cuts it this way

Speaker 3 And then he throws the plate on the floor and it shatters. And then you eat the pig.

Speaker 6 Did you eat it?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 6 The way that I would have been traumatized?

Speaker 3 No, Lux was traumatized. Lux was.

Speaker 6 Oh my God, you had the kids. I did not even like, wow, wow.

Speaker 3 Other cultures have, like, this is not just Spanish culture because I know for a fact that other cultures do this. And it could be like...

Speaker 3 like other Hispanic cultures and I'm sure other cultures in general do this.

Speaker 3 But Lux was so disturbed. Even Elijah was sick and he couldn't eat.
So that surprised me because I feel like Elijah eats everything. He literally picks crabs.

Speaker 3 Like that's dead on your plate and it's a whole crab. So to me, I'm like, I was a little bit shocked by his reaction to it.
But Lux was really upset. And we lost our appetite.

Speaker 3 We didn't even eat the dinner itself, which was like other things besides pork. And we couldn't eat.

Speaker 6 It's so interesting to me because we've had conversations before about how I have someone in my family that

Speaker 6 he is Puerto Rican and Egyptian.

Speaker 6 And his dad's Egyptian, his dad's also Muslim. So his dad does, yeah, they don't do pork.
So out of respect, he does not eat pork in front of his dad or around his dad.

Speaker 6 He's a twin brother and neither one of them will do it. And I was telling you about it because I didn't understand.
And you were saying how, like, poor Muslim people,

Speaker 6 what it was something about pork is like dirty.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So like here you're somewhere else and they like, it, it, it seems like it's like a delicacy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like a delicacy or a traditional

Speaker 3 meal that they do.

Speaker 6 That's so interesting to me. Like just in like how some you could literally have both sides of

Speaker 3 well, so it's sort of the same and I don't think there's any religious, I don't think there's religious context, or there might be actually, but some cultures won't eat like shrimp because they're like dirty, yeah, they're like bottom feeders.

Speaker 3 And so, in some cultures, it's like we don't eat shrimp for that reason. And then in other cultures, you're like, throw shrimp on everything.

Speaker 6 Oh my god, I never,

Speaker 6 because I literally have never left the country, I've never even like researched like other

Speaker 6 countries. So I'm just like, now that makes me want to know, like, what foods do y'all not eat compared to like foods?

Speaker 3 Oh, that's a that's that's a good question.

Speaker 6 So that is really intriguing to me. Cause like, I wonder if it's the same thing with, like, I wonder if there's anywhere that doesn't eat chicken.

Speaker 3 I'm sure. I'm sure there's places that don't.
I mean, I don't know. That's a good question.

Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 3 food poisoning is big around here.

Speaker 6 When I Googled that and found that out, I was like, no, I'm telling this bitch immediately because she's got kids that'll be puking everywhere.

Speaker 3 My kids aren't eating a whole lot while we're here because the food is not great. But two people have firsthand told me that they had food poisoning here.

Speaker 6 So when I was looking stuff up, it seems like it was a collective understanding that like we didn't know that

Speaker 6 Spain's food is like notoriously not good.

Speaker 3 Well, I think that a lot of people who have not been here, and again, this is only speaking to people who have not been here or are not familiar with any Spanish cultures, is that people assume,

Speaker 3 a lot of people assume that like Spanish food

Speaker 3 is

Speaker 3 one in the same, but it's not, right? Like Puerto Rican food is very different than Spanish food in in Spain, right? Like, you can't, you don't go to a restaurant here and ask for rice and beans.

Speaker 6 Okay, so did you think that though, going in?

Speaker 3 Not necessarily.

Speaker 6 Because you're pretty like well-versed, I would say, when it comes to different shit like that, because you tell me this shit all the time and I find it so fascinating. You don't know the difference.

Speaker 6 I literally, in my head, it's a category of like, this is spicy,

Speaker 6 and that's just Spanish.

Speaker 3 I think that's what people think is that all Hispanic cultures are classified under one umbrella of of Spanish food, but that's not the case. Spanish food is Spain.

Speaker 3 Puerto Rican food is Puerto Rico, Mexican food is Mexico, you know, Venezuelan food is Venezuela. I think it's very different.
And so

Speaker 3 I love like out of all the Hispanic foods that I've tried so far, my number one and my number two is Puerto Rican food and Cuban food.

Speaker 3 Like those are my two favorite, then probably Mexican number three, right? But Spanish food is not on the list. Like, what is that? Um, does that say

Speaker 3 that TikTok? It's like, M ⁇ M's not on the list. Spanish food's not on the list.
No, it's fucking up. And it's, it never will be.

Speaker 3 But so they have this dish called paella, which we got on the first day. And it's a rice dish, but it still was absolutely awful.
It wasn't good. Okay.
And then

Speaker 3 I got crucified on TikTok because I was eating Italian food in Spain. And I said, ma'am.

Speaker 3 I said, Spain is closer to Italy than the United States.

Speaker 3 What is the difference between eating Spanish food or what is the difference between eating Italian food in Spain and eating Italian food in the U.S.? Please explain that to me.

Speaker 6 But I don't understand understand why anyone cares what you're eating in Spain.

Speaker 6 I'm feeling we should be in trouble for eating at Olive Garden in America.

Speaker 3 Mark told me the first thing he was eating was McDonald's. So I don't know.

Speaker 3 So I don't understand why I'm getting yelled at for eating Italian food in Spain. Like I'm here to try all the things.
And when one thing isn't good, I'm going to try the next.

Speaker 3 And there is such a melting pot of people here in Spain, too. Like I think we call America the melting pot, but Spain has so many different people here.

Speaker 3 And there's actually a lot of asian food here as well

Speaker 6 okay okay yeah like i feel like you can always find asian cuisine some like everywhere you've been maybe

Speaker 6 but but so that's what you're proving my point that's what i'm saying like i i don't understand why anybody would care what the fuck you're eating like

Speaker 6 did i initially think you were crazy when you were like i'm getting like a burger

Speaker 6 But then you told me about the seasoning problem and I was like, well, you got to try it all till you find something you can eat or else you're going to starve.

Speaker 3 No, there's literally nothing. What else?

Speaker 6 So what else has been different? You were telling me about like

Speaker 6 there's no like

Speaker 6 little like convenience stores and stuff.

Speaker 3 Okay. So hotels in America have

Speaker 3 like the little stores in them. Yeah.
Like I don't think

Speaker 3 you'll see a hotel with a convenience store in them more frequently than you won't. Here.

Speaker 3 There's no convenience items in the hotel. So there's no little corner of the hotel that has snacks and toothbrushes and whatever, like Tylenol.
Like they don't have that.

Speaker 3 There's also not a variety of snack foods in general.

Speaker 3 Like if you go to the grocery store, we went to the grocery store and we got bananas, apples, and oranges as the kids' snacks were in here, but they don't have like a snack aisle.

Speaker 3 And if they have an aisle that has snacks in it, it's very minimal, which is really just so interesting compared to America. I mean, there's a reason why we're obese and they're not here.

Speaker 3 Obviously, the outlets are different. So if you're traveling to Europe and you've never been out of the country or you've never been to Europe specifically, you have to get an adapter.
And this is

Speaker 3 an example of an adapter. Oh, these are the prongs that they use here.
Okay. Just check the country that you're going to, and it'll and then get the right adapter accordingly.

Speaker 3 The convenience of things nearby is also like everything from where I'm at right now in this hotel is about 40 minutes. So, there's not a whole lot that's like super close.

Speaker 6 I was shocked. Like when you were initially telling me like all the things, I was so shocked that that's like because I'm naive because I'm, I live where I live.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 Like I have a Wawa on every single corner. If I don't have Wawa, I have 7-Eleven.

Speaker 3 There's not like a

Speaker 3 convenience store nearby to like go get a snack or go get it. Like there's just not that.

Speaker 3 And then the executive lounge that's here, like upstairs, I, you know, I paid a little extra for it because in another hotel when we went to Disney, it was like a snack bar with drinks.

Speaker 3 So if you needed a quick snack, you know, and or small plate or derbs, whatever, small light breakfast, just like anything like that, that's sort of the vibes that I would thought it was.

Speaker 3 No, there's no food up there. It's just drinks.

Speaker 3 But a Coke, you can get a Coke anywhere, which we love.

Speaker 6 But you did tell me it is not the same thing as a Mexican Coke.

Speaker 3 Don't let this bottle fool you. This is not a Mexican Coke.
This is absolutely not a Mexican Coke.

Speaker 3 A Mexican Coke is different.

Speaker 6 They are good, but I was going to say, like, whose is better? Spain's or Mexico's?

Speaker 3 Mexico.

Speaker 3 And then there's.

Speaker 3 They have Fanta here, and it's, it tastes like carbonated orange juice. It's not like a regular

Speaker 3 soda. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Narangha.

Speaker 6 Excuse me.

Speaker 6 Does that mean orange?

Speaker 3 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 3 But this tastes and smells and feels like carbonated orange juice but i will say that they're freshly i don't i'm not an orange juice drinker i don't like orange juice but i will drink freshly squeezed orange juice i do not like any sort of what is it called from concentrate

Speaker 3 um i don't like fake orange juice uh their fresh squeezed orange juice downstairs in the morning is really good um

Speaker 3 I'm trying to think what else is different.

Speaker 3 I see a lot of the kids during the week that are going to school, they walk.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of walkers. So I think their lifestyle here overall is just healthier than America.
And so we're coming over here and not, it's like a shock to our system, right?

Speaker 3 Not even just the culture. It's like the food, the

Speaker 3 just being healthy, walking. Yeah.
I mean, think about our lifestyles.

Speaker 6 We are most of us, unless you are like working on your feet and with your hands and things like that. Most of us have office jobs to some degree.
We're completely sedentary.

Speaker 6 Um, then we get in, what do we get in cars, trains, buses, whatever, to subway system, all that, all those things. To get home, what are we doing? We're sitting again.

Speaker 6 What is like a huge pastime for people? Sitting and watching TV,

Speaker 3 um, sitting and watching sports, scrolling on our phone.

Speaker 6 Like, everything is about like sitting here.

Speaker 6 It seems like Europe in general is the complete opposite.

Speaker 3 No, and I can get behind that part of it. Like,

Speaker 3 and I think if you added a little bit of seasoning, I'm not saying preservatives and chemicals and all that, but just like a little bit of seasoning, I could get behind it. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Um, and also just being outside all the time, like it's soccer is so big over here. I think that's why they also have the program, it's um, it's on the TV right now, is all over.

Speaker 3 And so, all these families are coming out to go to the soccer and go to the practices and do this and do that with soccer and whatever other sports that you're playing.

Speaker 3 And so I think that's also big too is like, you know, you're, you're getting out and you're grown people who are not even playing pro are just going outside and playing soccer for fun, which

Speaker 6 we don't do that.

Speaker 3 No, like maybe an occasional softball tournament, but nobody is really going out there and doing shit in America.

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 6 And truly, I feel like even softball tournament, like anytime I'm trying to think of people that I know that play like group sports as adults, everything I know about them is they also like proceed to get wasted either like before, during, after, maybe all of it.

Speaker 6 So I feel like that's counterproductive, you know?

Speaker 3 That's a good point. I mean, the drinking age here is 18, but I think that they're so used to it that it's not a problem the same way it is in the U.S.

Speaker 6 Yeah. No, I would agree.
I would wholeheartedly agree. I mean, I have my own thoughts on the drinking age.

Speaker 6 I think it's insane that you can sign up for the military and do a bunch of things at 18, but you you can't legally drink till 21.

Speaker 6 We've got it asked backwards on a variety of levels in the United States.

Speaker 3 I mean, overall, it's definitely an experience. I personally like Barcelona and Mallorca, Spain, better than Madrid.
But if you can stop for a day or two, definitely don't stay for two weeks.

Speaker 6 How fucked up do you think you're going to be coming home?

Speaker 3 I'm wondering the same fucking thing.

Speaker 3 Oh, also on the way here, when we were stopping, our flight here had a layover in London. Our specific terminal had very little food options.

Speaker 3 And what little food option there was, the one Baobun spot, my kids would not eat that. They didn't know what it was.
They weren't going to try it. Whatever.
Nobody's problem but my own.

Speaker 3 There was also no convenience store items in that place for kids. So there were snacks there, but there was nothing for kids.
No diapers, no whites.

Speaker 3 I don't have small children with me, obviously but you know i have creed they didn't have children's clothing so if you're traveling and you're doing like a layover situation or you're traveling at night so that you can wake up in the morning and be refreshed or whatever like make sure that you have pajamas diapers wipes on deck in your carry-on because that is a mistake that if i would have brought rio and the twins that i wouldn't i don't think necessarily prepared for because i had never done it and i didn't really know what it looked like in our not wing our terminal of that airport l I think it was lwr l h r I can't remember,

Speaker 3 of London, there was, there was nothing. So just keep that in mind.
If anyone has any really long trips coming up, pack a carry-on with sleeping items. I wish that I would have put my kids in pajamas.

Speaker 3 That makes sense. And then brought extra clothes to change into when we got to the lounge.
We were able to use the lounge for British Airways.

Speaker 3 So just like a little travel tip. And then also the coloring book bags were an absolute hit.
Coloring books were a hit. British Airways, I cannot speak for all three.

Speaker 3 Like there's first class, business class, and coach. I don't know if Coach has them, but where we were, they did have headphones already.

Speaker 3 So I had bought them and put them in their backpacks ahead of time. You won't need those.

Speaker 3 And I'm trying to think, what else? Just to help anyone that's traveling coming up. Coloring is big.
Do snacks.

Speaker 3 A lot of people think that you cannot bring snacks on a plane because you can't bring drinks on a plane. That is not true.
You can bring food through security. You cannot bring liquid.

Speaker 3 So keep that in mind. Pack your own tackle back, tackle box of snacks.

Speaker 3 What else?

Speaker 6 I feel like if you can get a direct flight, get that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we have a direct flight home. And I'm just so fucking thankful.
And we get six hours back. So I'm hoping that we're going to sleep so fucking hard.

Speaker 3 Do you want to say what you how you feel about Spain?

Speaker 6 Elijah, tell me. Tell me how you feel about Spain.
Wait, what are you reading?

Speaker 3 Let me see that.

Speaker 3 He has read more books than me. He's read four fucking books.
He's reading them in 24 hours because there's really nothing to do. So, like, we'll go do something and then we come back and we read.

Speaker 3 And the kids play, like, Creed got this little dinosaur thing at the zoo today, and it's like sort of cute. It's like dinosaurs and like this, like, little flashlight.

Speaker 3 And I'm like not letting him buy anything that won't fit in his backpack to go back on the plane. But I mean, these little things that keep him

Speaker 3 occupied, and honestly, they're working, so it's like not a big deal. But, like, you can, um, you make the shadows, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 So, um, anyways, for people who are like, How are you reading with kids on

Speaker 3 there? Well, they're self-sufficient. This book, shout out, her name is actually Alessandra, also.
Okay, This book is the most sick and twisted thing I've read in a long time.

Speaker 3 And if you guys liked Never Lie by Frida McFadden, I finally found a book that is

Speaker 3 comparable to that.

Speaker 6 And that's saying a lot.

Speaker 3 That's saying a lot because that one is so fucking good. This one is comparable to that.
And this is so insane. So who read it first? You read it first, and then Elijah's reading it now?

Speaker 3 I'm almost done. And so when he finished his book today, which he started yesterday,

Speaker 3 he asked what he should read, so I said that one. I'm reading it on my Kindle.

Speaker 6 So, Elijah, when are you going to come on chapter seven book club?

Speaker 3 He's already read, he's read two books of book club pics.

Speaker 6 Sign him up.

Speaker 3 I told him

Speaker 3 he's leaving the next one. Okay, tell us about Spain.
Tell her about what you think, pros and cons. Tell us about the seasoning.

Speaker 6 Tell me about it.

Speaker 3 It's invisible,

Speaker 3 it's not there, non-existent.

Speaker 3 It's garbage.

Speaker 6 Do they have pepper and just not salt?

Speaker 3 So this would either salt and this would either pepper. And the only thing that they give you is a here you go.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 This is sugar. I know.
I was using that.

Speaker 6 So wait, so they don't have condiments like dipping?

Speaker 3 They have olive oil for everything.

Speaker 6 Well, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 That tracks.

Speaker 6 Nothing.

Speaker 3 He's upset. I mean,

Speaker 3 he said, we're going home. We're going to make, pick a date.
We're going to make Thanksgiving dinner and we're going to have Thanksgiving because we're starving. I did, I told him my concerns.

Speaker 3 I said, we're going to get home and I'm going to gain 20 pounds.

Speaker 6 You're not going to gain 20 pounds. You're definitely probably going to gain at least five from everything that I know from people's like stories about Europe.

Speaker 6 They lose a shit ton of weight when they go. And then, of course, like our food's disgusting, like with chemicals and preservatives and whatever.
So they gain it back when they get home.

Speaker 6 Plus, you're not walking as much. You're not doing all the things.
So you probably will gain a little bit of weight. You're probably gonna swell a little bit just because we have nasty stuff.

Speaker 3 I don't have time because I'm getting a boob job, so I don't have time for that. Like, you know, I need to come here right before the boob job.

Speaker 3 I need to come from go to Europe and then go right to boob job.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 how excited are we about the boob job?

Speaker 3 How excited are we about the boob job? Are you excited about the boob job?

Speaker 6 Elijah, are we excited about the boob job?

Speaker 6 I mean, how small are we going?

Speaker 3 I would like to have a full B.

Speaker 3 B?

Speaker 6 I think you're going to be a C.

Speaker 3 I would like to be whatever Lindsay is.

Speaker 6 I think Lindsay's a full C. He's like small D, full C, for sure.

Speaker 3 I think she told me she's a double D, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 Like, 28, 30? No, that's a back size. That's not a.

Speaker 3 I know.

Speaker 6 You said 28, 30.

Speaker 3 I will never be a 28. I'll never be a 28.
What does that look like?

Speaker 3 You're probably a 28 right now.

Speaker 6 I don't even.

Speaker 3 What was your bus size?

Speaker 6 Now that we had our little guest appearance from Elijah,

Speaker 6 so like, how has it been? This is your first time traveling internationally with each other. So like, how has that been?

Speaker 3 I haven't had any real issues. I don't think with,

Speaker 3 I'm trying to think.

Speaker 3 Traveling internationally was fine. I think getting sick and getting my period, the same day the doctor told me I had strep, I also got my period.

Speaker 3 And that was really, really hard because I came into this room and have been trying to like hibernate in here and not get anyone else sick. And so

Speaker 3 basically still needing to push through whatever I need to push through doing, like obviously this recording, but also going to Segovia, going to the zoo, like those were things that I already booked and I paid for them in advance.

Speaker 3 And then there was a Museum of Illusions. He ended up taking the kids there by.

Speaker 3 by himself and like he's a trooper he's fine but it's like that's the hard part right like that, though, that's the real challenge because I could travel with him. That's fine.

Speaker 3 He's super helpful, you know, whatever. But

Speaker 3 being sick, having my period, still needing to push through to do these things has been

Speaker 3 a lot because I'm not, my body clearly needed me to slow the fuck down and I didn't. And then I still didn't.
And I'm still not.

Speaker 3 And so it's just that part is where I'm like, I'm burnt the fuck out and I just want to rip his head off. But it's not his fault, right? Like, I can't expect him to read my mind.

Speaker 3 And so that's been a little bit challenging.

Speaker 6 Um, but that's I mean, that's the time of year as a whole.

Speaker 6 I think everyone is ready for a break, everyone's ready to like rip someone's head off because none of I don't know anybody in my personal life that, like,

Speaker 6 I know a few people in my personal life that slow down, but I don't know that many people that slow down, even when your body's and we as women are so bad at that.

Speaker 6 Like, that was like one of the first things that my neurologist told me. He was like, um, with everything going on with like the MS and whatever, he was like, um,

Speaker 6 MS is a women, like woman's disease.

Speaker 6 It affects mostly women in their like early 30s. It's usually when you start getting symptoms and things like that.
And there's like huge links between

Speaker 6 like living life of like trauma and doing for others instead of paying attention to yourself. And like, that's just diseases as a whole.
Like when you don't listen, your body is going to.

Speaker 3 deteriorate. It's going to do it for you.
When you don't choose to take a step back and just slow the fuck down, your body will do it for you. And it's fucked up.

Speaker 3 And it's, in some ways, causes more issues, right? Like I can't expect my four and seven year old to just be okay sitting in a hotel all day long.

Speaker 3 So I have to push through, even though I don't feel up to it. And if I didn't, Elijah still has to come through for them because, you know, we traveled all the way over here.

Speaker 3 We have to make the best of it. We prepaid for things.
And I just, you know, I don't expect them to sit here in the hotel all day long. And so it's been, it's been exhausting.

Speaker 3 And I think just a learning curve, I think moving forward, we know, you know,

Speaker 3 extensively, because I just have gone off of past experiences in, in other countries where it's like, I do, if the flight is really long, like Hawaii, for example, we were there for over three weeks.

Speaker 3 You know what I mean? Like I knew the flight time and the time change alone, I could not get back on a flight with three kids in a week. So we had to do that.
But you had also done it.

Speaker 6 You had to Hawaii so many times before you decided to bring all the kids. You know what I mean? So I think that that's different.

Speaker 6 I'm sure that traveling with kids, I mean, having kids in general is like a whole different beast, but I'm sure that like adding travel to that, like international travel is hard enough.

Speaker 6 But then adding kids to that, because they do have way more energy than we do. So like they're not going to want to just sit there.
Like they don't want to have relaxing days. Like they don't.

Speaker 6 They haven't hit that phase in their life where they like naps yet. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 I suppose they know, I mean, they have liked the experience. They have thought it like, like I said, Creed was really upset when we couldn't go in the castle.

Speaker 3 So I'm thankful for the experience in that way. Like they're able to see other places.
And I couldn't be more thankful for that.

Speaker 3 And just, you know, Isaac's patience with, you know, him not being able to come or whatever. But I think that we'll make up for it.

Speaker 3 And if nothing else, they all, every single one of us got something from it. And I think that's like the only, that's what we can be thankful for.

Speaker 3 Elijah started his reading journey when we were here, right? Like that's cool.

Speaker 6 No, that is, that's actually really cool because I'm very interested to see if you guys continue reading similar books or if you only did because, like, that's what you had.

Speaker 6 But, like, I wonder if he's going to pick his own books. Like, I want to know Elijah's TBR.

Speaker 3 Well, here's the thing. And I was thinking about this when I couldn't sleep.
I was like, listen,

Speaker 3 the books sort of pay for themselves, right? Because if I read them, they got one use. And then he reads them, and then they get two uses.

Speaker 3 If Isaac and Lincoln ever choose to read them, then they'll get more. And so, like, they end up paying for themselves.
And I feel, I feel justified in not reselling them.

Speaker 3 And I can keep them on my bookshelf. So I was like, okay, this is it.
This could could be good.

Speaker 6 That's going to be what you tackle when you get home: reorganizing your books.

Speaker 3 No, absolutely. I was thinking about making a his and her shelf.
Like the two black ones in the office. I love that.

Speaker 3 Like, I have the little one in the middle. That could be all the unread ones.
And then the one, like, one of the shelves is hers, and one of the shelves is his for like what we've read.

Speaker 3 But then if we both read something, then what?

Speaker 6 I mean, I'm not a proponent of spending extra, but it looks like you might need two cops.

Speaker 3 So I guess you better start reaching out to all of the authors. Hey.

Speaker 6 No, I think that's so cute. I think there's always, I mean, there's negatives and positives with every trip, right? Like

Speaker 6 even not internationally, but I think that while the experience of Spain itself, like as Spain might not have been great, it seems like you've had a lot of other things coming from being in Spain that are good.

Speaker 3 Yes, 100%.

Speaker 3 And like you said, I think that this is a trip that we will remember forever for good or bad reasons. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 Who knows? Like, funny jokes down the road, you know. I think that I don't know.
I think about like

Speaker 6 just like, like, I will,

Speaker 6 my dad, like, always was like the vacation planner. And this one time, he sent me and my mom to this, like, basically, it was essentially an Airbnb before Airbnb was a thing that he had booked.

Speaker 6 And we went with my mom's friend.

Speaker 6 And, like, the way we still talk about that shit to this day, because we thought me, my mom, and her friend, and her daughter all thought we were getting murdered on that trip.

Speaker 6 Like, we still talk about it. It was the worst trip I've ever been on.

Speaker 3 Shit was horrific.

Speaker 6 Our door had bullet holes in it.

Speaker 3 Horrific or horrific? Horrific.

Speaker 6 Horrific. Yeah.
It was like the door to the thing had bullet holes in it.

Speaker 6 The owners were just incredibly creepy. There was, there was like a girl hiding in a locked staircase.
It was, there was like a, I'll have to tell you one day, but I, we think about that to this day.

Speaker 6 And like, that was a trip my dad wasn't even on. So it was a horrible trip.
My dad wasn't there. And it's still fucking hilarious to this day.

Speaker 3 Oh, 100%. You always will always, I'm sure we're gonna laugh about this and we'll have jokes for days.
Like, yes, Thanksgiving here was it was rich.

Speaker 6 Tell me about that. Like, what? So, I know you signed up for Thanksgiving dinner the same day that you had whatever the pig experience was.
So,

Speaker 6 what was Thanksgiving in Spain?

Speaker 3 We get back to the hotel after we do the tour of Segobia. And if you wanted to do a Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving dinner,

Speaker 3 um, it was $89, $89 American dollars per person.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 keep in mind, they don't season food. And it was a plate that was, again, this goes back to Europe being just, I guess, better than us.
It was a plate that had about this much food on it

Speaker 3 for $89 per person. And

Speaker 3 it was green beans,

Speaker 3 some sort of turkey roll. I think there was meatloaf stuffed in it oh okay and then a dollop of mashed potatoes that tasted like

Speaker 3 not potatoes correct it was um

Speaker 6 if i read the menu correctly i think it had truffle in it

Speaker 3 oh well i feel like i didn't read that part no i didn't it was

Speaker 3 I took a couple bites and I said, I'm going to head up for the night. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 Because they don't celebrate Thanksgiving here, but I guess because it's like an American program that partners with Madrid, that was how that happened.

Speaker 3 And I think we're going to get a lot of hate on this episode. People are going to be like, all Kale did was trash Spain.
But honestly, this location in Spain just wasn't for me.

Speaker 6 And maybe people can recommend places to go that have better food.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like tell me where to go for soccer that has good food.

Speaker 3 I know that this program specifically also partners in London and in Germany, but is do they have the same problem with land food in Germany and London? Because obviously

Speaker 3 we don't want to run into the same.

Speaker 3 Also, is it in like a better area? Is there more to do? Like, I'm just wondering, when Isaac texted me, he said he really wants to go to Greece. I don't know how big soccer is over there.

Speaker 3 So I don't know if that's something that I should plan to like

Speaker 3 do or, you know, whatever. Because Lincoln

Speaker 3 has now encouraged Lux, who wants to do this program. and it is a week-long.
There's week-long camps in the United States.

Speaker 3 Collectively, we will not be back to this location.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, it's a one-and-done. It's a one-time experience once in a lifetime.

Speaker 3 I cannot wait to get home. Do you think they still sell whole turkeys after Thanksgiving?

Speaker 3 Wait,

Speaker 3 back the fuck up.

Speaker 6 Did you hear about the whole butterball turkey incident that was going on?

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 6 Did you not see this all over TikTok?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 6 It was like factually proven, this is not alleged, that butterball turkey, like butterball,

Speaker 6 was, they were getting.

Speaker 6 I don't even know the politically correct term for this, but men at the warehouse

Speaker 3 were...

Speaker 6 having sexual relations

Speaker 6 with the butterball turkeys prior to Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 No, they weren't.

Speaker 6 Yeah, they were.

Speaker 3 I ate prime ribs. In multiple men?

Speaker 3 Yes, ma'am. In multiple warehouses or in the same one?

Speaker 6 Um, I don't know if it was multiple warehouse. I'm about to look this up for you.
Um,

Speaker 3 ma'am, how were they caught and what the fuck is going on? I

Speaker 6 don't know.

Speaker 3 Um,

Speaker 6 I don't know. So I'm pulling this up right now.

Speaker 3 You gotta be fucking with me right now.

Speaker 6 Something was getting fucked, and it's it's not me fucking with you.

Speaker 6 So, PETA,

Speaker 3 no,

Speaker 3 wait, before they were alive?

Speaker 6 I mean, before they were dead, they came out with a YouTube video talking about it's not just butterball, the disturbing abuse of animals.

Speaker 6 Um, animal sexual abuse on farms happens every day across the countries. Our investigators have witnessed

Speaker 6 these acts.

Speaker 3 Sexual abuse on the animals, like while they're alive?

Speaker 6 I think yes, and probably also while dead, if I had to guess. If there's people sexually abusing corpses, I'm going to go like human corpses.

Speaker 6 I'm going to go with they've probably done it to animals as well.

Speaker 3 What would possess a human being?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I found it. Okay.

Speaker 6 On November 5th, the nonprofit organization posted an interview clip with an unidentified investigator who claimed he witnessed harrowing instances of sexual assault against the live turkeys at the butterball plant.

Speaker 6 In the graphic video, the undercover worker accused a butterball employee of shoving his finger up a turkey's cloak.

Speaker 6 Another worker allegedly humped a turkey while it was restrained.

Speaker 6 So, you're not missing much in the United States right now.

Speaker 3 What the fuck?

Speaker 6 I don't know. But yes, they sell them.
Don't get a butterball because I don't know who's been in it.

Speaker 6 But we ate prime rib. We didn't do the turkey this year.

Speaker 3 I'm at a loss for words, like real words. Like we're assaulting animals.
Like

Speaker 3 I heard about

Speaker 3 bestiality, I guess it is,

Speaker 3 pretty late in life.

Speaker 3 Most recently, which wasn't really that recent, was of an ex-Amish person who is on TikTok and talked about the sexual assault of animals in his experience

Speaker 3 in the Amish community. And now, this is like,

Speaker 3 yeah,

Speaker 3 like you're

Speaker 3 fingering turkey. Like,

Speaker 3 yeah.

Speaker 3 Are they going to be fired? Are they going to be put in jail? Like, what's happening?

Speaker 6 I'm not entirely sure what's going on. I'll have to do some follow-up investigating on that one.
But

Speaker 6 I literally was like,

Speaker 6 you know what's sad? The shit didn't even really shock me.

Speaker 6 Like, there is not much in life anymore, especially with human beings, that shocks me.

Speaker 3 Isn't that sick?

Speaker 6 No, it is. I'm so desensitized that it's not even funny.
And I think, like, that's just us as a generation across the fucking board. And that's like really scary to think about.

Speaker 6 But I literally was just like,

Speaker 3 what for what?

Speaker 6 Like, why, why would you do that?

Speaker 6 Like, what is wrong with a brain that would make you think that that was a great idea?

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 3 yeah,

Speaker 3 I like can't get over that. I'll never support butterball again.

Speaker 6 I was disgusted, so I was just like, okay. Um, so we skipped out on the turkey this year.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't blame you, I don't blame you at all.

Speaker 6 And I honestly, I'm not really a turkey fan anyway. So, like, I always say, like, I'm a sides-giving type of bitch because I don't fuck with turkey.
So, I do all the sides and no meat.

Speaker 6 But this year, we didn't even have groceries till Wednesday night. So we did, we did prime rip.

Speaker 3 What was the reasoning behind your last minute?

Speaker 3 Life has just been lifting.

Speaker 6 And like, I feel like just across the board, I was, we were so unprepared for Thanksgiving. Like we had plans like a month ago what we were going to do.
And then it just started getting closer and

Speaker 6 life is just life. And I was like, hey guys, like, what are we doing on Wednesday? I called Corey at Work.
I'm like, something about groceries.

Speaker 6 Well, first of all, I was down sick for like a solid 24, over 24 hours, puking my guts out, like the Monday preceding Thanksgiving.

Speaker 6 So I was like, I don't even know if I'm going to even be eating anything at that point or if I'll be alive. I didn't know because it was.

Speaker 3 We're both on our deathbeds in the same way.

Speaker 6 It was really, really bad.

Speaker 6 So I was like, I don't know. And then Wednesday hits.
And I was like, hey, like,

Speaker 6 what's the plan? And Corey's like, oh, your mom got groceries. And I'm like, no, she didn't.
And he's like, she told me she was going to. So I call my mom at work and she's like, no, I didn't.

Speaker 6 And I was like, okay.

Speaker 6 So we're going to

Speaker 6 1000%. I was like, our communication is trash in this house right now.

Speaker 6 So we just whipped it together. And I was like, okay, well, fuck the turkey.
Let's do fine rib. Yeah.
Well, that's like actually awful given what I just said. Not

Speaker 6 do that to the turkey, but we're going to skip the turkey. And what if we did like, first I said steak, but it was going to, it was nasty here on Thanksgiving, like it was so rainy.

Speaker 3 No, it was just pouring rain.

Speaker 6 So, I was like, Let's do steak. And then I was like, nah, and then like, oh, why don't we do prime rib? Usually, prime rib is our Christmas Day dinner thing.
That's the only time a year we eat it.

Speaker 6 So, I was like, Well, what if we just did it now? And then, usually, we do mashed potatoes, but I had this like recipe for scalloped potatoes in the crock pot that I wanted to try. So, we did that.

Speaker 6 And then I wanted green bean casserole, so I made that. Mom wanted her candied sweets.
She did that. Corey wanted asparagus with like panko and parmesan.
He did that.

Speaker 6 Corey ended up cooking everything yesterday.

Speaker 3 Actually, asparagus with panko and parmesan sounds bomb as fuck.

Speaker 6 You got to try it. It's so good.

Speaker 3 It's like our favorite way to eat it.

Speaker 6 And you like put it in the oven so it like crisps up.

Speaker 3 That sounds so good.

Speaker 6 I've been in my crock pot air lately, so I have a lot of recipes to send to you to try.

Speaker 3 I actually cried the other night because I was like, I can't go home to chaos.

Speaker 3 I told Elijah today when we went to lunch, I was like, listen, the day before we leave Spain, we're doing an order before.

Speaker 3 so when I get to, when we land back in Philadelphia, I can place the order. The groceries will be there when we get home.
We're doing a full order meal planning for two weeks.

Speaker 3 I want to have everything there ready to fucking go.

Speaker 3 I was like, because this is so chaotic for us to be living, you know, because we, there was like a period of this year where we were eating dinners together like four or five nights a week.

Speaker 3 Oh my God, my kids love it. We love it.
It just feels like, I don't know, it just feels way better. So I love that idea.
And if you send me that recipe, I want to try try the pinko and

Speaker 3 parmesan so good,

Speaker 6 and it's all easy

Speaker 6 crock pot, crock pots, the way to go. So, we had two crock pots going.
I did, I did my um

Speaker 6 green bean casserole in a crock pot, and then I did my um, I did we did the scallop potatoes, so freaking good, totally worth it. We made like a beef stew like two weeks ago, best thing I ever ate.

Speaker 6 Corey made this like cheesy chicken and broccoli rice thing, Bomb. Like, we've been killing it with the crock pot things.
I'm so tired of eating out. And like, it's the same thing every single day.

Speaker 6 It's like nobody wants to think about dinner until it's like four o'clock, five o'clock, six o'clock at night. What are we doing for dinner? Well, now there's nothing taken out.

Speaker 6 Nobody prepped anything. No one's in the mood to cook.
Like, it's just annoying. So

Speaker 6 we, I was just like, no, we're going to start crock potting. And I've been sending Corey recipes that I find on Facebook.

Speaker 6 He's doing the majority of the cooking and stuff because he gets done work like usually earlier than I do.

Speaker 6 So he's been doing that. and we've been fucking thriving.

Speaker 3 It's been great. I love that for you.
I'm so happy for you. I definitely want to do the same.

Speaker 6 Try two weeks sounds good in theory.

Speaker 6 I used to try to be on prep for two weeks and get all the stuff for it. A lot of stuff would go bad.

Speaker 6 So try it for like, do like one, one week.

Speaker 3 True, because I also don't have half the kids.

Speaker 3 Well, no, not half. I also don't have two of the kids for the second week.
So that's a good point. Yeah, I'll try the, I'll try the one week.

Speaker 3 Becky, I was crying in bed, texting Becky, and she's like, I'll, I'll build your chat GPT to like, I like paid for the premium one. She's like, I'll pay for it to like build whatever you need.

Speaker 3 What, what did I say?

Speaker 6 Chat GPT.

Speaker 3 She, yeah, I paid for the pro one or whatever so that she could help me do all the things. So when I get back, she's going to help me with that.
And then

Speaker 3 I'm excited to get home. I'm really excited to get home.

Speaker 6 Are you excited or are you nervous?

Speaker 3 No, I'm excited to get home. I won't be home for long, obviously, because we have a big, big, big interview coming up for the following week of Barely Famous.
And I didn't want to put out a best of.

Speaker 3 So if you guys hated this episode, I'm really sorry. And it was really just a catch-up between me and Kristen.
And

Speaker 3 yeah, I wanted to tell you guys about Spain. I also just wanted, I didn't want to put out something old.
And we have a really, really, really big interview coming up for next week on Barely Famous.

Speaker 3 And so

Speaker 3 just trying to plan out the rest of this month. I know that during the holidays, it gets really crazy and a lot of people slow down listening to podcasts.

Speaker 3 So if you've made it this far, thank you so much. I hope you all had a fantastic Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 I'm going to do Thanksgiving. I think December 14th is when we're going to do a Thanksgiving dinner because we're just so hungry.

Speaker 6 You know, you guys deserve it after the lack of seasoning experience.

Speaker 6 I also wonder if you guys have been like off seasoning for this long when you get home and try like and season, like what you're going to think. Like I wonder if your taste buds are going to change.

Speaker 3 change like too salty like are you gonna be like whoa culture shock again um at the end of this month when all my kids are with their dads i am leaving again to get a boob job so the next time actually i'll have i'll be a brand new person in 2025 physically not your face not my face i'm not touching my face All right, y'all.

Speaker 3 Stick with us. Next week is huge.
Thank you, Kristen, for catching up on the Spain journey. I hope you had a happy Thanksgiving.
And I'll see you when I get back from Spain.

Speaker 6 All right. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 You guys can watch the full video episodes on my Patreon, patreon.com/slash Kale Lowry. Follow me on Goodreads.
Don't forget that Elisha is now also on Goodreads.

Speaker 3 And you guys, I'll talk to you all next week. See ya.

Speaker 6 Bye.