Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)

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Speaker 1 Olivia. Hi.
Welcome to Call Her Daddy.

Speaker 2 It's an honor to be here.

Speaker 1 So it's summer. It's June 1st.
Yes, ma'am. But you grew up in Florida.
So was it summer like all the time vibe for you and your family?

Speaker 2 Like, I don't know. When I moved to Los Angeles, it was even weird.
Like, I don't know, like it getting cold at night. I'm like, what is this?

Speaker 2 Like, I never, fun fact, I never owned like a sweatsuit until I moved to Los Angeles. Like, I never owned sweatpants growing up.
Like, what was it? Where was I going to wear sweatpants to?

Speaker 1 Okay, so did you, because I'm thinking, like, this is basically kicking off like the summer vibe for Call Her Daddy. Did you and your family, like, what was your summer situation?

Speaker 1 Did you take trips and vacations during summer?

Speaker 2 Yeah, like, my family is like huge on travel so like each summer we would go to like a different country so i'm like very well diversed into traveling that's like why i love traveling so much right my last summer at home we literally did like a european summer trip it was a little weird like traveling with my family yeah it's like we went to like all these crazy places but i was like with my parents i was like awesome like 17 years old i'm like seeing you like attractive people and i was like My mom is right there.

Speaker 1 I didn't even think about that of like when you're single and you kind of get to that age where you're traveling with your family and you're like, wait, I wish I was with my friends right now because I want to like go to the bars and like exactly,

Speaker 2 but then it's like you're with your mom and you're just like, yeah, my mom's like, do you see anyone attractive? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of them.
A lot of them, but I can't say anything.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm going to bring them back to the hotel room with my mom and my dad. We're all going to cozy up together.
Like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 1 That's such a good point. Okay.
I like completely forgot that concept. And I can feel that for you.
Okay. I need to know this because I actually feel like this tells like a lot about someone.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you the type of person that can like sit on the beach with a book and relax and tan and knock it up? Are you the person that's like, guys, come play paddleball. Let's go in the ocean.
Let's go.

Speaker 2 I feel like I'm like the second option. Like I'm always like, can we go do something? Like there's definitely my days where I'm like, okay, let's literally go sit on the beach.

Speaker 2 That's, I don't want to talk to anyone. My phone's like literally on airplane mode all day.
But then there's other times I'm like, I literally cannot sail. I'm like, can we?

Speaker 2 And like in Florida, like everyone has boats. So you go boating, you go wakeboarding.
you go. I water skied for like nine years of my life.

Speaker 2 So it was like you were constantly doing something on top of like just sitting and reading. Like, that's like a California thing, I feel like.

Speaker 1 You're actually so right. I feel like Florida and California are completely different.
And now you've lived in both. Which do you prefer?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 oh, that's oh wow. I've never actually been asked that question before.
I always get like New York versus LA.

Speaker 2 New York, I mean, LA versus Florida. I would say I love Florida as a state, like

Speaker 2 the weather-wise, like and kind of like my hometown's stunning. You know, don't really like what's going on with Florida right now.

Speaker 2 And then here, I mean, I like the people more. I like how open it is, how like I'm able to be who I am and like not get judged by anyone.

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Speaker 1 You were named a sports illustrated swimsuit rookie for the class of 2022. Congratulations.
Thank you. How does that feel?

Speaker 2 It was absolutely insane. Like, I fell to the ground, like, crying.
I was like, no, I was like, this is not real. Like, major imposter syndrome.
I was like, this is not real.

Speaker 2 And then two weeks later, I literally went to Montenegro.

Speaker 2 That's where we shot it which is like a really small place near albania and like you travel by yourself like it's like a full deal and i'm like 19 years old so i was like

Speaker 2 i've traveled by myself but you know like new york to la you know like la new mexico like stuff like that but never like a 14 hour flight like i stopped in turkey for a little bit like no idea where i was going i was like i could really get lost right now and you're by yourself yeah like coming back i flew back with everyone because i was the last girl to shoot, but like going there, like

Speaker 1 I can't even imagine going by myself at 19 years old to a foreign country also to prepare for like one of like the biggest moments of your career. It's like fucking huge.

Speaker 2 I was like sitting in the airport just like, where am I? This is not real. I was like, what am I doing with my life?

Speaker 1 Okay, so you show up and I was thinking like, okay, obviously, I'm sure there were like so many glamorous moments of shooting this, but we need to hear, Olivia, the not so so glamorous moments like what was an unglamorous moment with you that you were like oh my god people would never anticipate

Speaker 2 that so it's swimsuits right so you think you're going and shooting somewhere like warm right

Speaker 2 no it was like october time so

Speaker 2 in the place that we were it was like 40 to 50 degrees and you're in like thong bikinis and you're like shooting in the water and it's like freezing and you're just like sitting in there and you're like shaking like I have so many funny funny photos of me, like, you know, like when you're like in between changing, and I'm like in this huge like robe jacket situation.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 that was definitely like a moment where I was like, nobody would ever guess that we're like freezing in all of these

Speaker 1 because when you look at them, you're like, oh my god, like it makes me want to be on a beat.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I was like, oh no, I was freezing. Like, I was like shaking there.
I'm like, they probably have to like edit out my goosebumps because it's like so bad.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, no one can tell that you were cold in the photos, so I have to give you props.

Speaker 2 Your like teeth are chattering and all of a sudden you're like, yeah, it's like, it's like you're, there was the last shot that we did, I got like soaking wet and we were like on this ledge kind of situation where like water was like crashing on it, but it wasn't like in the water.

Speaker 2 It was kind of odd. But I was like laying down in it and

Speaker 2 the sun had already set. So there was like not really any sun.
It was like very like glistening vibes. But I kid you not, it was probably like 30 degrees out, maybe 40.

Speaker 2 And the water was like absolutely freezing. And you're just getting like splashed with water.

Speaker 2 You're sitting there, you're trying to be like super sexy and like so glamous, but you're like, I like literally was like sitting there, like trying to like roll around on this like block of cement, like trying to be sexy.

Speaker 2 And it was like definitely a moment where I was like, I really hope this comes out well. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's so cool to sit with you and like hear the behind the scenes, also, because it's like such a cool moment. Also, especially because you're 19, Olivia,

Speaker 1 is your family like so stoked?

Speaker 2 Are they my family doesn't really process anything. Like even the way I moved out, I was just kind of like, I'm going to go to Los Angeles for two weeks and then I'll be back.

Speaker 2 And then I kind of just came here and I never left.

Speaker 1 How many siblings do you have?

Speaker 2 I have one older sister. Okay.
Blessing. Love her.

Speaker 1 So you're like the baby that just left.

Speaker 1 Good for you. Okay.
Well, you not only are you blowing up in the modeling world, but you've blown up on TikTok. Yes.

Speaker 1 So we're going to play a little game.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Called TikTok Made Me Do It.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. A trend you've tried because of TikTok.

Speaker 2 Emily Marico's like salmon avocado. Have you not tried it? No.
She did like salmon, rice, avocado, and like the seaweed packets.

Speaker 2 And then you like mix it all together and you like make your own salmon roll.

Speaker 1 Okay, so now I need to go try it. Okay, something you've bought because of tick tock.

Speaker 2 You would think growing up in Florida, I've always been blonde, that I would know what purple shampoo was.

Speaker 2 And then I got on TikTok and I got on TikTok right when like the purple shampoo thing was a trend. And I was like, What is this stuff? And I went and it changed my life.
I was like,

Speaker 2 so that was definitely something that I was like, oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 That is such a good investment. It's my best friend.
Yeah. Okay.
A random fact that you've learned from TikTok.

Speaker 2 This one's weird. I also don't know if it's true.
I heard that your wingspan is how tall you are. But I'm 5'9 and I feel like my wingspan's not 5'9.

Speaker 1 Okay, after this interview, I'm gonna get a little bit of a turn.

Speaker 2 I like kind of like,

Speaker 1 No, that's actually a I've heard that too, I think, and I don't know if I believe it. Okay, a song you've added to your playlist because of TikTok.

Speaker 2 All of my music comes from TikTok, first of all. Recently, I've put this song on repeat every single day for it's probably like a week and a half now.
It's called like 10 Things I Hate About You by

Speaker 2 Leah Kate. I think she was just on tour with Madison Beer.
I think she was like the girl who opened up for her. And that song just went like insanely viral on TikTok.
And I like see it everywhere.

Speaker 2 And then I'm like, okay, let me listen to it. Let Let me see if it's like the hype.

Speaker 2 Championing in my car every day.

Speaker 1 Okay, somewhere you've went because of TikTok?

Speaker 2 Hawaii. Hawaii is my favorite place.
And I feel like Italy, like I see Italy all over my For You page. I want to go this summer so badly.

Speaker 1 Something you've become self-conscious of because of TikTok.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Growing up, I was pretty confident. I was very independent.
Once I got on TikTok,

Speaker 2 I got very insecure about like my boobs and my body because I would just get like the most just

Speaker 2 meanest comments about it. And I would just start like overthinking.
I'd be like, wow, like I always like loved my body. Like looking up to like models and whatnot, I was like, why is everyone?

Speaker 2 So I, you know, created boundaries and I like turned off my comments for like a solid like, I think it was like two-ish months. And then eventually I got more like secure with it.

Speaker 1 Have you ever responded back to like a troll and then regretted what you said?

Speaker 2 Not to a troll, but I actually used to be exactly like that. Like in high school, because I was was so like independent, like I was very much like, I'm fighting for myself person.

Speaker 2 So not that I was a bitch, but I was like a little

Speaker 2 kind of like, um, like, why are you talking about me? Like, especially girls in like high school, I'd be like, I would confront them. I'd be like, why are you talking like crap about me right now?

Speaker 2 So I feel like almost when I started social media, I had to like create like a boundary and be like, okay, like you can't respond.

Speaker 2 You know, people in my life help me a lot with that because I'll be like, I'm going to do it. I'm going to blow up on them.
And they would be like, calm down. It's okay.
Talk to my therapist.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1 It's hard. It's like, it definitely takes a different level of self-restraint because you don't know the person.

Speaker 1 And so I guess that's why it's so easy for them to be mean to you because they don't know you. And then you reply back.
And I've done it before where I'm like.

Speaker 1 That was dumb. Why did I give in to that?

Speaker 2 Yes. And I now don't do it either.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Today is June 1st, the first day of Pride Month. You've been so open about your sexuality.
What are your plans to celebrate Pride this year?

Speaker 2 I just love Pride Month so much, but I would say, so last Prime Month I came out, you know, on June 1st as bisexual.

Speaker 2 So I feel like kind of Pride Month last year was like me kind of like figuring out what it was like to be bisexual. Like being on social media and being like, wow, people are so accepting.

Speaker 2 And then, you know, like also dealing with like the not-so-nice people like in the streets or when you go to the parades, like dealing with like, you know, the mean people and just being like,

Speaker 2 I feel like this year, I'm definitely, there's West Hollywood Pride June 3rd and then there's obviously New York Pride. I think New York Pride is better personally so definitely will be then.

Speaker 1 That's so exciting for you that you can fully like lean in this year. Let's go back to the moment you came out, right? Okay.
How did you tell your friends and family?

Speaker 2 I called my mother and there was a lot of moments where I was like, I'm just gonna do it. Like spur of moments I was like, I just need to tell her.
Like

Speaker 2 it's such a secret and you kind of just hold it in for months and months that you're like, okay, I'm going to do this.

Speaker 2 My mom was coming to visit me in two weeks, and I was kind of lying to her about the relationship I was in.

Speaker 2 I was, you know, didn't really know exactly how to be like, hey, mom, I'm in a relationship with a female. And I eventually called her up one day and was just like,

Speaker 2 spit it out and like gave 20 facts about the LGBTQ community and about my relationship. And she just was like, okay,

Speaker 2 like,

Speaker 2 cool. And I was like, okay, yeah, bye.
And And we like didn't talk for two weeks. And then she came and visited me.
And

Speaker 2 she was like totally okay with it. And I was like, oh, this is awesome.

Speaker 1 Did she tell the rest of your family for you?

Speaker 2 I'm assuming because I never told my dad.

Speaker 2 I feel like I kind of came out with my dad by like sending him,

Speaker 2 I got him a shirt that said my daughter's gay.

Speaker 2 And I shifted to him because it was Pride Month. And I was like, oh, I feel like I should get my family some rainbow swag and just bought him like my daughter's gay shirt.

Speaker 2 And he like sent me a picture of him like smiling with him on. And I'm just like, okay, he knows.
Like he knows. Like that was kind of like me coming out to him.

Speaker 1 I love the not so subtle gesture is so bald. You're like, here you go, dad.
If mom hasn't told you already,

Speaker 1 let's get into it.

Speaker 2 Oh, fully. And then my dad has always been like, love whoever you want.
Like, I don't care. And I was like, oh, cool.

Speaker 1 That's amazing. And was your sister the same? Like, did you? Yeah,

Speaker 1 you're like, no.

Speaker 2 No, I called her because this was like right when we were getting close again.

Speaker 2 And I was like, oh, I feel like I should like call up my sister and be like, hey, by the way, like, you're probably going to see it on social media soon. So,

Speaker 2 and she like screamed. She was so excited for me.
She was like, no way. I'm so excited for you, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, oh, perfect reaction. I was like, thank you.
Thank you, sister.

Speaker 1 That's why, like, I appreciate you sharing that, just because I know there's probably a lot of people that could be listening that are also going through what you went through a year ago, right?

Speaker 1 Like, they haven't come out yet. Maybe they don't know how to do it.

Speaker 2 And it's so hard. Like, you have to really figure out what works best for you like with my dad like i could i tried telling him probably like

Speaker 2 20 times like there would be times where i'd be at home and i'd be like okay go up tell him he's sitting there he's not doing anything just tell him i was like i couldn't do it so i mean my dad had a very

Speaker 2 like funny relationship like you know it's like a lot of dad jokes so i was like i feel like that's kind of something that's funny that he would look at it and he would laugh but he would be like oh wait okay like okay like this is

Speaker 1 oh, that's cute.

Speaker 1 It's almost like to look at each relationship and cater, like, how you feel and what your relationship with them is, and like, feel safe in the way that you've always felt safe with, like, your dad's humor.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and with my mom, it's like we're deeper, so it's just kind of like me just telling her that was like, she obviously knew that took a lot for me to say to her, so she was like, Okay, like, okay, was your mom the first person you came out to?

Speaker 1 Well, I guess not because you had a girlfriend at the time, yeah.

Speaker 2 I would say, like, I always kind of knew, and I feel like I had one best friend where we like kind of came out to each other because we were like I think I am but like I'm not sure

Speaker 2 and I'd also I was type the type of person that was like I don't want to come out until I like 1000% know that I am because there's always like the possibility where it really gets down to it that you're like oh I don't think I could do that and

Speaker 2 so I would say them

Speaker 2 or just kind of like I mean my best friend right now Emma we like would always have conversations we'd be like I think that I am but I'm not sure sure.

Speaker 2 Like, I think, and then I met my first girlfriend and I was like, okay, I am.

Speaker 1 How did you deal with those like internal feelings of struggling to figure it out for yourself?

Speaker 2 Ooh. I was very homophobic towards myself.
So even when I was out, I was like, no, I'm not. Like, I don't know.
There was always like the backhand thoughts. It's kind of like being insecure.

Speaker 2 It's like,

Speaker 2 you're confident with it, but I was also like, is this like, is this bad? Like, is something bad going to happen?

Speaker 2 Like, if this isn't okay like I'd get like random comments and I'd be like really overthinking it so I would say just kind of like for me it was like I needed to be in a relationship with a female to be like okay I'm 1000%

Speaker 2 in this I came out and like you know really realized and like so many things made sense like when I was younger I was like oh that's the feeling that I had with that person. Okay.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 So then it kind of, that's amazing to also hear like then it started to all kind of click for you, but I love how you also compare it to like that insecurity feeling of like the unknown and like not knowing how to handle that i think everyone can relate to that feeling what is the biggest thing that you've learned about yourself over the past year definitely when i came out i came out as bisexual and i was in a really

Speaker 2 long-term relationship and then i got out of it and was able to experiment with all kinds of people and

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm so happy, but I figured out that I was pansexual and I came out with that in the past past year.

Speaker 2 So I feel like that was kind of something, probably the biggest thing that I kind of realized about myself in the past year.

Speaker 1 Can you talk about, just for anyone that doesn't understand the difference between being bisexual and pansexual? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So the difference between it is bisexual is just liking boys and girls or, you know, men and female. And

Speaker 2 with being pansexual, it's like anyone. And I would say almost with being pan, for me, it's like I care more about the vibe between the two people and like the connection that we have.

Speaker 2 And, you know, it's also being open to talking to non-binary people to be open to talking to transgender people. And I feel like for me, like I'm so open to anything.

Speaker 2 So I feel like that's just kind of when I met someone who was non-binary and I was like, oh, I really like you. I was like, okay.
So it's, I feel like it's honestly very similar.

Speaker 2 And I think when people think it's so much more common than people realize.

Speaker 1 And I think it's great when anyone is like speaks up about it because it's not their responsibility to educate us, but like it is our responsibility to listen. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are there any pansexual celebrities that you admire?

Speaker 2 Okay, Madison Bailey. She's in Outer Banks.
Love her. Obsessed.
When I found out she was pansexual, I feel like I loved her like 10 times more because I was like,

Speaker 2 yes.

Speaker 2 There's Cara Delevine. Obviously, I think she's absolutely stunning.
And I feel like just also like with being pansexual, it's like, you really just don't care.

Speaker 2 Like with, I mean, with bisexual, I feel like I don't really care either, but it's like, you really really don't care.

Speaker 2 Like, it is purely an emotional relationship when you are whisk dating someone who is pansexual. You know, before I even came out, I was to the T focused on being like a male's ideal woman.

Speaker 2 And I, like, I achieved it. I was the blonde, long-haired, super glammed-out, every single day girl.
And, you know, like, I had males' attention 24-7, but I was like, it really came down to it.

Speaker 2 It was all a validation thing. It was like, I just wanted them to call me pretty, so I felt validated.
But it was like, I didn't like them.

Speaker 2 So I was like, that's kind of my journey with like figuring out that I was bisexual. Cause I was like, oh, like, you're telling me pretty, like, makes me feel really good.

Speaker 2 But then I'm like, I don't like kissing you. I don't like doing this.
I'm like,

Speaker 1 you're raised to be like, what? So which boy do you like?

Speaker 1 And even aside from the sex, like the sex part of it, you're more just like, oh, so I'm supposed to like like a boy and hopefully they like me.

Speaker 2 Exactly. Exactly.
And it starts with like the hopefully they like like me part is really where it gets in like your brain. Because honestly, like, I think like we, like, women are pieces of art.

Speaker 2 And we

Speaker 2 deserve for the boys to be like, oh, do, are they going to like me back? Not us being like, does he like me? Oh my gosh, is he going to text me back? Oh my gosh, does he want to go on a second date?

Speaker 2 It's like, no, do, like, you should be asking yourself. You like him? Yeah.
That's all that matters. And I feel like that's almost like a question that I'll start asking myself more recently.

Speaker 2 It's like, I'll notice about myself being like, oh, like, why aren't they texting me back? But I'll be like, hold on. Do I even like them as a person?

Speaker 2 I'm like, I'll calm down and I'll be like, put my phone away and I'll like sit in the mirror for like 20 minutes and I'll be like, I'll literally write down all the green flags, all the red flags.

Speaker 2 And I was like, I'll come to a conclusion. I'll be like, I probably don't like them.
I just crave it.

Speaker 1 When you're dating, it really is interesting.

Speaker 1 I feel like I saw a TikTok on this recently of someone being like, you're constantly looking at the person that you're on a first date, second with, date with, and you're hoping that they're going to like you.

Speaker 1 And it's like, you leave that first date. Did you like them? Yeah.
Did you like their personality? And

Speaker 2 so many people forget that that you need to like go home and be like, are they the type of person that I want to spend the next years with?

Speaker 1 Or do I just like the validation?

Speaker 2 Exactly. And I think

Speaker 2 that's something that I struggle

Speaker 2 till this day. I'll be like, oh my gosh, like I liked them so much.

Speaker 2 Kind of, do they like me back? And then I'll sit there and I'll be like, I'll talk about it with my mom because we talk all of the time.

Speaker 2 And I'll be like, yeah, I'm kind of like how they made me feel, but I'm kind of just craving the validation right now. So I'm like, I need to cut things off and just stop this here.

Speaker 1 I think that's very relatable. Okay, how has being open about who you really are affected your mental health?

Speaker 2 It affected it amazingly.

Speaker 2 As before, I was like living in a secret kind of, and I like wasn't able to like tell the people in my life like what was going on. I'd be like, yeah, works good.

Speaker 2 So I feel like when I came out, it just helped it tremendously. I was able to be so open about who I liked, what I liked, going on dates, like telling people everything.

Speaker 2 And I feel like also just with myself, like kind of accepting it made

Speaker 2 just something in my brain click and it clicked and it made me so much happier on like the day-to-day basis.

Speaker 1 Okay, I remember lightly seeing there were like ridiculous rumors on TikTok that you came out for attention. People were saying one of your relationships was fake.
Why do you think that happened?

Speaker 2 So this is also struggles. This is something that I struggle with on the day-to-day is like I'm very hyper femme.

Speaker 2 And, you know, looking at me, this is one thing that like I eventually want to change in the LGBTQ community is like being femme and being gay is a very common thing.

Speaker 2 And I think it's why a lot of girls are scared to come out because they're like, oh, but I don't look the certain way. But it's like, there's no certain way that you have to look.

Speaker 2 Like I dress like this every day. I do my makeup.
I do my hair and I'm, I'm very gay. So people just also didn't want to accept it.

Speaker 2 Like because I was catering to the men audience so much that they were just kind of

Speaker 2 almost, I feel like hurt by it. And they were just like, no, you're not.
Like, you're not gay. And I was like, wait.
Yeah, I am. I was like, hold on.
I was like, this was a lot.

Speaker 2 I can assure none of my relationships have ever been fake, especially because I'm very like emotionally invested in people that like when people would say it was fake, fake, I would be like, nah,

Speaker 2 I don't even have the mental capacity to like have a have a fake relationship right now.

Speaker 1 So how has being open about your sexuality affected your friendships?

Speaker 2 So in my hometown, it was a little hard. I lost some friends there just because

Speaker 2 lack of education. People just don't

Speaker 2 want to believe or they just are like, wait, that doesn't make sense. Or it comes down to like the, wait, were you attracted to me thing? And I was like, no, I wasn't.

Speaker 2 Like, just wanted to let you know that, like, I am in a relationship with a female or I'm bisexual or whatever it would be.

Speaker 1 So, I would say a little hard in my hometown, but was that most of it when they would, would they say to you, like, oh, are you attracted to me? Like, did anyone ever say to me?

Speaker 2 Yeah, oh, fully all the time. And I'd be like, I think you would know if I would be attracted to you.
Like, I would flirt with you, or something of the sort.

Speaker 2 I'm also not once, like, be attracted to somebody and not say anything. Like, if I like you, like, I'm going to flirt with you, and I'm going to, like, you know, I'm very, like, honed down on it.

Speaker 2 So, but in Los Angeles, like, I lost no friends. Like, it was kind of awesome because I even

Speaker 2 got the opportunity to make friends with other people in the LGBT community by being open about it and just being like, oh, like, I don't know, it's like kind of something to bond about.

Speaker 1 I also love the confidence of you being like, you know, I'm going to own it. I'm going to give you guys another chance.
I'm going to explain it to you. And you can take it for what you're doing.

Speaker 2 Because it's a bit of a lack of education. They don't know.
And it's like, maybe they are too, and they just don't know. And just kind of the lack of like experience as well.

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Speaker 1 So in terms of relationships, everyone is always writing in to me like, Alex, give us advice on long-distance relationships. How the fuck do I maintain this? What do I do? Is it worth it?

Speaker 1 Should I stay with this person? You've had a long distance relationship. How did you manage to stay close with someone who lives so far away?

Speaker 2 Well, I've had numerous long distance relationships and it's hard.

Speaker 2 like i feel like with myself every relationship i get into is long distance even my friendships all my friendships are long distance it's like it's kind of weird to say but it's like i'll go two months without seeing my friends and i'll be like Love you guys.

Speaker 2 Like I'll FaceTime them. I think FaceTime is probably the best advice that I could give and like schedule times to FaceTime.
So it's not just like a, oh, they're not answering me.

Speaker 2 It's like, no, we're going to go get smoothies together via FaceTime once a week or twice a week or however much you want to like have that communication communication with them.

Speaker 2 I feel like that would be the best. I also don't strongly recommend long distance, even though, like, I can't say that because I'm literally that would be me.

Speaker 1 Like, Olivia, remember this for the next one.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But it's like, regardless, like anything with me, it's like being by coastal. It's like, well, I could have a relationship in New York, but then I come to LA and it's going to be long distance.

Speaker 2 Or I go to, I travel besides just New York and LA, I'm constantly in different places. So I feel like

Speaker 2 I don't recommend it, but it's also kind of inevitable in certain situations.

Speaker 1 I do appreciate, though, like I have did the same thing when I was somewhat long-distance, scheduling those FaceTime dates. You naturally would be probably going on a date this Thursday night.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, let's have a date night, FaceTime date

Speaker 1 and schedule that time.

Speaker 2 That's really good advice.

Speaker 2 Yeah, definitely. And then you guys can cook dinner on the phone together and you know, like, eat dinner.

Speaker 2 And it's like a three-hour FaceTime call, but it's like, and people would be like, oh, that's so stupid.

Speaker 2 But I'm like, honestly, it's not because I haven't seen them in two weeks and I like want to tell them about work or whatever it would be.

Speaker 1 Do you think being in a long distance relationship makes it more difficult to live in the present moment?

Speaker 2 1,000%. Yes.
It's, I mean, I'm sure you know, it's like you're constantly, my screen time was like probably doubled when I was in any long distance relationship.

Speaker 2 And because I'm always texting the person, just being like, hey, like, I'm thinking about you. Like, you're at an event and I feel like at events, like, it's, it's work.

Speaker 2 So you're there and you're trying to be on your A game, but then you're like, oh, I haven't answered them in five hours. Like, I need to like text them.

Speaker 2 And like, I even got down to the point where I was texting them probably every 20 minutes. And it was like, okay, Olivia, get off your phone.
You're at work right now.

Speaker 1 Stop. That's why those are, they are so hard is because I'm thinking about it.
It's like you can feel guilty. You can feel, start to feel insecure.
Like, what is the other person doing?

Speaker 2 Exactly. Because my also thing is I will like post on my social media and not answer anyone.
And people get so offended by that. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
Like, it's, it's not.

Speaker 2 I haven't even opened my text. Yeah, like all of my text messages are, I haven't answered my mom today.
Like, it's not a personal thing.

Speaker 2 It's like, oh, I like had to post this at this time or I'm in the car and I'm taking a selfie. Like, I'm not answering text messages.
Like, no, I'm taking a picture. I'm posting my story.

Speaker 2 Like, it's not that deep.

Speaker 1 I've had in long distance when you know they're going out and you're not.

Speaker 1 And you're like, I'm sitting in my pajamas with my pimple cream on and you see that they're like going to the club and you want to not be like over the top because you don't want to trigger them of like, oh God, I have my like crazy girlfriend being like, well, you're going to text me and you're at the club.

Speaker 1 So you're trying to be chill, but then you're also like, make me feel secure.

Speaker 2 Come on. Exactly.
And I feel like that was honestly probably like the hardest thing. Like just in like a long distance relationship in general, like I've gone like months without seeing the person.

Speaker 2 It's like, well.

Speaker 2 And I go out like a decent amount for like events and work and dinners and not being on my phone. And it's like, oh crap.
Like I don't ever want them to feel insecure because they shouldn't.

Speaker 1 Was there anything ever you or a partner did that was like super cute to keep it fun and like surprise one another? Ooh.

Speaker 2 Ooh, I personally hate surprises. I've never been a surprising person.
I'm like, nope, like, just tell me. Like, if you're planning on coming to see me, just tell me.

Speaker 2 I feel like just other cute things, like just like fun dates. Like, I feel like more recently, I have a rule.

Speaker 2 I will not go to dinner with someone. Like, you want to take me on a date? We are not going to dinner.
Like, let's go do something. Like, I

Speaker 2 had this guy, I told him that, and I was like, okay, cool. And he was like, okay, I have a crazy day planned.
Like, let's do this. And I was like, okay.

Speaker 2 He was like, um,

Speaker 2 where like athletic leisure. So I was like, okay, maybe we're going to go work out.
I don't know, like boxing, something.

Speaker 2 And I picks me up and we're in the car for maybe like 45 minutes. And I'm like, oh, like, where are we? I also lived in Calabasas.
So we're like driving further. So I'm like, where are we going?

Speaker 2 Also, first date. So I'm like, this man could kill me.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Like, I'm like, are you going to die? Like, what?

Speaker 2 And all of a sudden, he looks at me and he's like, we're going skydiving.

Speaker 2 What? I was like, I'm scared of heights. I, you, I probably should have told you this before that, but I am like deathly afraid of heights.

Speaker 2 To skip forward, um, I actually ended up getting out of the car and Ubering home. And I was like, I never talked to him again.
I was like, no, like, this is this.

Speaker 2 That was kind of like the biggest red flag that, like, you were going to take me skydiving.

Speaker 1 To take someone skydiving on a first fucking date when you've never met in person?

Speaker 1 How did you meet that person?

Speaker 2 I met them

Speaker 2 because I used to live in a content house. So our content house would have like events.
Yeah, yeah. So it was like an event that we were having and we just had like mutual friends.

Speaker 2 And I was like, oh, like you're cool.

Speaker 2 And he's very like spontaneous. So I was like, okay, like I need to date someone that's spontaneous.
So I was like, okay, cool. Like, got it.
Like, let's do this. And then he just took it too far.

Speaker 2 It just went

Speaker 2 right over his head like the spontaneous one.

Speaker 1 So you just said, hey, I'm not down. And you just ubered back.

Speaker 2 I just was kind of like, Can you pull up your- Did he go skydiving? I don't think so. I don't know.
I don't, I like literally, like, never answered him after that. I was like, Sayonarda, dude.

Speaker 1 Okay, also because you're afraid of height. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, no. I was like, I'm already deathly scared of planes, even as much as I am on them.
I'm terrified of planes. So I was like, the fact that you just asked me to jump out of one with you.

Speaker 2 I don't even trust you. I don't even know you.
I'm like, we're not even dating. I'm like, hold on.
This is.

Speaker 1 It can be romantic if you're with like the love of your life. You You're like, let's do this.
And who knows what's going to happen? It's like, bitch, I don't know you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was like, this is a lot for me. I was like, get me out of this part right now.

Speaker 1 I'm not risking my life with a random.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Okay, so with regard to all the long distance relationships you've had, did most of them end because of the long distance?

Speaker 2 I feel like it would be a factor in it, but like never, it was never like the pure reason that I was like, we're breaking up because of distance.

Speaker 2 Like, I should have never, I should have cut the relationship off when it became long distance in any relationship just because it made things way harder than it needed to be.

Speaker 2 Um, that's why I don't recommend long distance, but you know.

Speaker 1 Do you think there's an expiration date to like all long distance relationships?

Speaker 2 I would say, like, max. Like,

Speaker 2 I mean, it also depends what kind of long distance you are. Because I know friends that live in

Speaker 2 Los Angeles, and then, like, the other significant other lives in Vegas. And it's, like, that's such a quick flight back and forth.
They see each other, like, all the time.

Speaker 2 But it's, like, also for me, it's like

Speaker 2 if I were in Los Angeles and I was dating someone in New York, it's like, first of all, different time zones. Also,

Speaker 2 I'm kind of not just in one specific time zone. I'll be like when I was in my sports illustration, like in Montenegro, like the time distance, the time difference, I think was like nine hours.

Speaker 2 And it's like, I don't even talk to you the whole day because when you're sleeping, I'm awake, and when I'm awake, you are sleeping.

Speaker 1 Or even when people are going to different colleges from each other and they're like, should I break up with this person? I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but

Speaker 1 people because it's like you're not going to be present. Yeah, and we're too young to not be exact in our lives.

Speaker 2 And that was my biggest thing. It was like, I was missing out on all these crazy opportunities because I was like, oh no, my partner won't feel comfortable with this.
Like, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 And it's happened numerous times with numerous partners. It's just kind of like a me thing that I feel like almost I need to work on.
Um,

Speaker 2 but you don't live in the present at all.

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Speaker 1 Okay, so more general dating questions. Do you consider flirting cheating?

Speaker 2 1000%. Why are you flirting with someone else?

Speaker 1 If your partner has never posted any pictures of you on social media, do you consider that a red flag?

Speaker 2 Any foot? Like if they haven't posted any, I think it's a red flag. What that's what we're saying.

Speaker 2 I also do think it's a really red flag if they're posting you a lot and like consistently, um, just from like my own like knowledge of like things that have happened.

Speaker 2 I'm like, okay, know what I like, know what I don't like. So, I feel like that's like moving forward.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yeah, like, don't

Speaker 1 like a camera in my face in the morning.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like, maybe not. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Is it okay to break up with someone through a text message?

Speaker 2 Yes. And people are so controversial.
Do you think, do you,

Speaker 1 I wasn't expecting you to be so definitive?

Speaker 2 I'm 1000%.

Speaker 2 I have broken up with people over text message. I have been broken up with numerous times over text message.
I've been broken up over an email before.

Speaker 2 Like, I've been broken up on Instagram DMs, Snapchat, like anything that it's like, I don't know, I just take like any form of social media.

Speaker 2 Also, when you're long distance, it's like, am I really going to trail this person on for the next like month until I see them and then break up with them? Like, no, like, then that becomes messy.

Speaker 2 And then there's like, but maybe could you you call them? Well, yeah, oh, yeah, like, also, that. Um, right.
I've like called people, like, yeah, like, I've done that.

Speaker 1 Like, that's like email. The email, what is the subject line? The breakup email.

Speaker 2 We're

Speaker 1 sorry, goodbye, have a nice life. Yeah, yeah, that's rough.
It's rough, but I get what you're saying. Like, in some circumstances, it could be maybe justified.

Speaker 1 I think an Instagram DM is a little aggressive, Olivia.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, I didn't do that. I just got, I got broken up with over an Instagram DM, and I was like, this was harsh.

Speaker 1 I was like, okay, yeah, that that is harsh.

Speaker 2 That's really hard. Can you unsend it so I don't have to see it anymore?

Speaker 1 Okay, which is worse for you? A heated argument with your partner in front of A, your parents,

Speaker 1 B, your friends, or C, your people you work with?

Speaker 2 Oh, definitely the people I work with. Cause I feel like with my family and friends, I can like justify it and be like, No, I swear they're a good person.
Work people? They're like, we saw that?

Speaker 2 Uh-uh. They're done.
Next, no, no, no. Like, you are not going back to this person.
We see their true colors. We want what's best for you.
No.

Speaker 1 I was like, I kind of agree. And it's kind of like embarrassing.
Like, again, you can justify if it's a dumb fight and you go to your parents and you're like, hey, we're having an off day.

Speaker 1 To the work people you work with, you're like, I don't even, I, we shouldn't even have to be having this conversation because this is work. And like, why are we now?

Speaker 1 Why did you just watch me fight with my partner? Like, exactly. Naughty.

Speaker 2 It's a little awkward now.

Speaker 1 Totally. Okay.
So, you being

Speaker 1 on social media so often, I think, like everyone that is on social media,

Speaker 1 I definitely think in the pandemic, it was like kind of almost not, I would never say healthy, but like it was helping a lot of people with loneliness and TikTok came about because everyone was like finding almost a community through there.

Speaker 1 Now I think a lot of people are back to talking about the negative effects of social media and there's a lot of like detrimental things to our mental health that come from it.

Speaker 1 Can you talk about the boundaries that you personally have had to set for yourself with social media?

Speaker 2 I started using the feature on your phone where it's like the do not disturb where you get like zero notifications. It's awesome.
It's so good.

Speaker 2 People hate me because I don't answer, but I'm like, like I'll, and you don't even get phone calls. So like my phone is like not buzzing at all.
I'm like, this is awesome.

Speaker 2 Like I'm not, I have not, nobody's trying to contact me. All of a sudden I look at my phone and there's like 20 missed calls.
I'm like, damn it. Dang it.
So I feel like boundaries wise.

Speaker 2 I mean, even when I turned off my comment section for that time, because I like couldn't read people making fun of my body anymore.

Speaker 2 And I feel like just it came down to a point where I now have like very strong boundaries with me on social media and

Speaker 2 certain things I'll talk about and like bring up and be like, hey, that wasn't cool, but kind of just like genuinely doing that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think, I mean, I don't have my comment section on anymore.
And I think like a lot of people still to this day are like, oh, you can't take the heat. And I'm like, it's actually not.

Speaker 1 It was actually that. I, I, well, I, yeah, it was hurting my feelings.
Yeah. That it

Speaker 1 wasn't helping my life. So I turned them off.
And now I think I've gotten to the point where I'm like, why, yeah, why would I like go back? Because I don't really want to hear.

Speaker 1 And I do love when people are so nice. And they're like, oh, open your comments so we can like hype you up.
Like you look great. But I'm like, you know what? It's like the negative.

Speaker 1 validate or the negative comments like also sometimes how much positive validation we get on the internet is not normal also yeah so kind of like i i think it was probably a good idea for a moment to like step back because it's affecting fully fully fully What is your advice for people who are bombarded with images on social media that make them feel bad about themselves?

Speaker 2 I was literally talking, like, I was dealing with this two mornings ago. It was, I mean, I feel like every morning I wake up and I like scroll through my Instagram and I'm like, oh, what's going on?

Speaker 2 And I feel like

Speaker 2 I get bombarded. I mean, I follow all the amazing models.
And like, don't get me wrong, love women. Literally love women.

Speaker 2 But sometimes it like really messes with your head because you're like, oh, like, like you were talking about, like, oh, my stomach doesn't look like that. Oh, my boobs don't look like that.

Speaker 2 Oh, like, they're working out right now. Oh my gosh, I haven't worked out today.
Like, I need to go work out. Things like that.
And I feel like my advice would to be

Speaker 2 social media, that one picture is literally so constructed. It's by a really good photographer.
You have your hair done. You have your makeup done.
You have your nails done.

Speaker 2 That's not what I look like 24-7. Even right now, I look like this maybe.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 I don't even know how, like, not that often. Like, I was doing my makeup and I was like, wow, wow, I haven't put like a face and makeup on in like a few weeks.
I'm like, this is weird.

Speaker 2 But just kind of like, people present themselves as like the best possible version of themselves.

Speaker 2 So, I feel like on social media, you just gotta remind yourself, like, okay, this was a split second on one time of their day. It's not real.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone is going to present their perfect life. And even think if you have an insecurity, think about yourself.
What did you just post? Yeah.

Speaker 2 A perfect looking bad person. Exactly.
Like, that's like even the part that messes with my head. Because I'm like, I'm doing the same thing.
I'm falling in the trap.

Speaker 2 I'm posting these beautiful photos that I get back. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm so excited to post this, but it's probably detrimenting to like other people.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, so I get in my head about it. I'm like, I don't want, like, I'm kind of on like a boycotting Instagram right now because I don't want to fall into that.

Speaker 2 Even though I like very much am guilty of already doing it, but.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like a vicious cycle. Like, I don't post as much as I used to, definitely, because I keep having to remind myself, like, wait, why am I posting this again?

Speaker 2 Like, what, who is this for? Yeah, like, what's the point of this? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, summer, like I said, wrapping up, summer is upon us.

Speaker 1 Olivia, do you have advice for women that are just like trying to go live their best life in summer, but maybe are feeling a little insecure, are feeling like they're not ready to like get out there and like live their best life because they're, they're seeing things on social media and they're like, I can't live up to that.

Speaker 2 I mean, I feel like, honestly,

Speaker 2 my biggest thing is like, just do it. I've even noticed when I first moved to New York, I had zero friends.
I knew nobody besides my agent.

Speaker 2 And I was in like this pickle for like an awkward three months because I didn't know anyone. And I was like, I have no friends.
I'm nervous to do anything. And then I just started like doing stuff.

Speaker 2 And I would go to the gym and I would walk and go get coffee. And I would like, honestly, go to Central Park and like walk around.
And it's like,

Speaker 2 just

Speaker 2 you'll be at the hot dog stand and you'll see the girl right next to you and she looks cool. And I'm like, hey, like, what's up? Like, my name is Olivia.
And it's kind of like that situation.

Speaker 2 It's way easier than people process. And yes, it's very anxiety filled.
but once you kind of like turn it, as in especially New York City, like that's a, I think that's great advice.

Speaker 1 So many women write in being like, I'm in a new city, how do I make friends? And like the fact that you're like, yeah, you literally just turn this on like, hey, I'm Olivia.

Speaker 1 Like, you're kind of right. Like a lot of these cities specifically, like, I know people have moved to Austin, Nashville.

Speaker 1 Like, so many people are moving to these cities, Chicago, and they're like, uh, got no friends. Like, but you're, we're all saying it.
So just maybe try and introduce yourself and see what happens.

Speaker 2 I'm so excited for summer. Like, I'm I'm going to Egypt.

Speaker 1 I'm like, Olivia's going to Egypt and I'm going to be on my couch watching your Instagram story. So,

Speaker 1 I'm so excited for you. Honestly, congratulations on everything.
Like, thank you. Getting that swimsuit.
Like, it's just truly, like, I grew up looking at that shit.

Speaker 2 Oh, me too. I don't believe it, so.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I saw myself and I was like, that's.

Speaker 2 Nope. That's not me.
That's not me. But I'm like.
have it in my I printed it out in like the huge form and I put it in my apartment so like I can look at it and be like, that is me. Damn.

Speaker 2 Remember that, Olivia. Yes.
Happy Pride Month. Thank you, Olivia, for coming on.
Thank you for having me.

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