Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)

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Spencer Pratt, you will obviously never be as relevant as you were.

How does that make you feel?

Oh, yeah.

Fuck you.

Fuck this interview.

Stupid podcast.

Fuck this shit's over in here.

Is he actually leaving?

What is up, daddy gang?

It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Okay, here we go.
Mr. Pratt.
Oh my gosh. Look at this outfit.
I love it. Oh my god.
So nice to meet you. The devil is attacking me.
Oh my god, the devil? Well, the second I get in my car, it's never happened in my life, it says engine coolant. I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? So go to the gas station.
I'm like, oh, buy engine coolant. I put it in and it's like spraying out.
I call BMW servicer like, you need to tow it right now. I'm like, I gotta go to call her daddy.
No, fuck the car. We're like, no.
Oh my God. Okay.
Can you mic yourself up immediately? Cause we're getting into this. This is very fancy.
Wait, isn't it cute? It's my, Spencer, it's the first time I'm using these. I feel honored.
I'm honored because I knew you were someone that would know how to put it on and use it. I mean I usually let them do it.
That's like the perks. So I should have done it.
Okay we're going over here to make a drink. Oh you didn't even get good tequila.
This is embarrassing. I won't actually touch these bottles.
Wait are you Are you serious? Oh, I can't be be on camera with that. Wait, what do you drink? I mean, bootleg enough would be like class Azul's as low as we're gonna go.
This is all I had from like random. I'll watch.
I'm not, you're not getting me on camera. I mean, this was, I drank this in.
Wait, do I have anything else? Spencer, I tried. You don't have a tried 1942 come on spotify what is going on budget cuts i have a champagne bottle okay so spencer right off the bat is just shitting on me for not having also needed this good ticket that that car coolant i was alive okay yeah let's talk about what happened all right so i get in the car i was going to be very I was going to sit in the car, meditate, just visualize the best freaking podcast ever.
And I get in the car, and it says engine coolant. I'm like, I'm not a mechanic, but this seems bad.
So I go to the car place real quick. I'm like, I need engine coolant.
I'm very late to the biggest podcast of my life, statistically. And so he's like, oh, my God, it's leaking everywhere.
and I'm like late to the biggest podcast of my life statistically.

And so he's like, oh my God, it's leaking everywhere.

And I'm like, pour more in.

So we pour more in.

I call BMW.

They're like, you need to tow it here, right?

I'm like, I'm not towing it.

They're like, the car could shut down on you on the way there.

I'm like, well, then it's going to shut down because I'm not missing this.

Let's pop the Dom. Okay, do you want to pop the Dom?

I mean, I'll drink that.

Okay, let's do that. Let's do that.
That's a better way to go about it. Okay, I feel like you should do the honors.
You know, here's the thing I've learned, because Heidi's a professional champagne bottle opener. I used to like the, like, excitement of...
Right, like, you want to spray it all over my camera? Yeah, and she's like, no. You're not even supposed to have, like a noise it's not a game to like you know

you guard that you come in like that you treat it like that because people are always uh you're gonna so the key what i've been taught is you just slowly it's less exciting but let's not Let's not waste this money.

Ow.

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Cheers. I am so honored to be involved with your mafia.
I'm so honored you're here. They're going to love you.
Spencer, you are popping off on TikTok. I need to know, what is your strategy? It was drinking and then that's why I haven't been TikTok-ing.
Well, here's what happened. Here's what happened.
I don't know how it happened. So what people loved, so I had to stop because Heidi was like, you play the hills in the house anymore.
Like, I'm going to choke you. She can't even.
It's like nails on a chalkboard. And I'm like, honey, these are going viral.
This one just did a meal in like 10 minutes. And she's like, I don't care.
Like stop talking about that. I'm like, it's relevant to a niche micro audience, honey.
So it's a hard balance because I'm also blowing up all these people that I can't stand. So it's like, I'm like, I'm abused, but I'm like, ah, the views, but I'm like, nobody.
I kind of love that Heidi's like, Spencer, knock it the fuck off. And you're like, can't hear you, a million views, gotta go.
This is so delicious. Spencer? I can't believe you don't have a charcuterie plate though for us.
Well, not past guys. Okay, we're going upstairs to the interview.
Are you ready? Should we bring this or no? Let's leave it. You need to drive home in your fucked up car.

Oh no, I'm towing it. Oh, here? You're towing it here? That's a tow situation.
Oh, you're towing it here?

I wasn't supposed to get here. Is Heidi picking you up? I said I would.
Uber. Black Uber.
X.

Censor. It's all about the money.
Let's go upstairs. Oh my gosh.
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Deep breath. No, I'm praying.
You're praying. Do you want to pray out loud? please God have this just be the greatest podcast to ever hit the waves of this dimension have it just touch so many people's hearts in a positive enlightening way God and just truly be a blessing for everyone's ears and if they're visually watching this with captions just when they read it just have their spirit just be uplifted and inspired amen that was a little too much holy spirit almost fainted there oh my god do you believe in god oh yeah okay but i mean heidi like took it to the next level because she's like a preacher really like i was trying to be in the illuminati when i met heidi we were you really oh 100 i didn't realize they're like drinking blood and you know all the weird weird i thought it was just like sex parties like eyes wide shut oh right everybody older than you know 18 totally you wanted to be a part of the sex parties.
Not just the party, but like that. That's a perk.
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Okay. Spencer Pratt, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
I am so honored. You grew up in California, going to school with celebrities and celebrities' kids.
Who was the first famous person you remember meeting in your life? Oh, hands downl Streep I was on the set of death becomes her I think was the title where she's like falling apart so shout out she would deny knowing me at this point but I think her name was Mamie Gummer uh we were BFFs we're very young we would go set and it was Meryl Streep and I would be chilling on set so yeah I did not expect the answer that's fucking baller oh I mean I went to Crossroads the list like right goes on but that's like that's like the main the cool like just in this mansion and you know I mean then it's next thing you know I'm having a slumber party with Hillary Clinton you know so I mean like my you have to, you're having a slumber party with Hillary Clinton? So my best friend Charlie, his parents were best friends with the Clintons from Arkansas. And so when I was a kid, you know, I'd always sleep over at Charlie's house.
But one night, you know, you know, I was pre-checked, you know, I knew this was going to happen. So Secret Service did their thing.
I think I was a safe 14 year old or whatever. And so, yeah, slumber party.
I was in the kitchen with Hillary. That was wild.
So you reference your high school and how you were surrounded by like a lot of famous people. What were you like in high school and what did the other kids think about you? Well, I try to say that I am exactly, you know, I've learned a lot of lessons, but I would say I'm the exact same person that I've always been and I haven't changed.
So, you know, I just as many people that didn't like me back then, you know, I had, you know, enemies putting up, you know, dick drawn on my face around town, you know, so I came in like hot, You know, you know so I think because you know for my private school world soccer was our big sport we didn't have a football team so um I was for my world really good at soccer so I was on the older teams so you know when I was 15 all the seniors I was rolling with them so you know everything got fast forward like when I watch I don't watch Euphoria when I see Cliffs I'm like oh my god this is the Disney Channel compared to like LA and growing up you know now it's crazy because you just dye fentanyl and whatever so it's definitely like darker now so I pray for these kids but um it was amazing I everyone's always like oh why don't't you write it? People that know me, you should write a memoir. I'm like, no way.
You wouldn't? Well, right now I just found all these tapes. And I was like, maybe I just cut together, like Heidi was calling it, selling Spencer.
Because I really have just been trying to sell myself for all these years. Not my soul, though.
That's the one thing I've why i'm not rich and famous because i didn't cross that tier of what would have crossing that tier looked like though because i think to the world it looks like you sold it oh no there's a whole nother satanism level there you know i didn't unlock like what would you do i mean i what do they do right these people that you just they're not up front with it but there's a more we're talking spiritual level not like oh what you say on yeah like these people are going okay so it's interesting because I feel like what you were saying about being in high school like you were always kind of this like polarizing figure there are gonna be people that like me and then they're gonna be people that don't like me and that's okay. But when you were younger, did you ever get in trouble for your temper? Well, in one soccer game, you know, backstory.
So in high school, you know, we went to GNCs, you get protein powders, you get energy. So at the time there was this product called the rip fuel and i was like that's every brand i want to be ripped and fuel so and they had a strawberry flavor one so i was be hitting rip fuel before games um you know you just mix in your water it's it's legal it's right it's like gatorade for me or whatever you know i never drink gatorade though um it's not brought to you by gatorade i can't be promoing Gatorade so yeah I was all pumped up on rip fuel you know and it's very competitive and I was taking this very serious and so this was the semi-finals and there was like a team little meeting the night before the game that this coach who no longer the coach for a reason okay shout out fed the new coach so the seniors didn't go to this team meeting that was unnecessary the night before a game so the next day biggest game of the senior year semifinals he benches all eight of the best players the seniors hands down the best players including myself we're now losing a half like.
You know, I'm pacing the side of the thing. I'm like, this is like, we get it.
And he wanted to make a point, like, we don't need you. Like, he thought they were going to do fine with like, whatever.
So finally at halftime, we go back in. I go in, score two goals, tie it up, so pumped up, score a third goal.
Now we're winning. He goes, sub.
He tries to pull me out. I i'm like i don't know if i flicked him off whatever i'm like you know i must have been being like what's up like you know i mean the crowd this is back when people cared you know you know like living you know this was our friday night lights right it was probably on friday too and so you know i went to the sideline and you know maybe got in the coach's face and my mom ran on the field my mom you know this was crazy what he did so my mom backed me up but i didn't hit anybody i didn't there was no it was just yelling he's yelling back so i get called in because they're maybe going to suspend me and they're like you were acting very pumped up like were you on something i'm like yeah rip fuel they're like rip fuel.
And they're like, what's rip fuel? Can you bring this into like the principal office? Uh, Tom Nolan, Bob Riddle just retired. Bye bye, Bob.
So I bring in the rip fuel and they read the back of it and it had a fedrin in it, which is now illegal. And they decided it was like speed.
So I would just dose up on, you know, rip fuel. So that got me not suspended or expelled but other than that like no I was teacher I have tight with all the teachers so you got to blame your behavior on rip fuel I mean it was it was a stimulant totally it was anyone else taking it with you the whole team I mean, I was more pumped up.
So who was your first famous friend? Like, the first famous person we started kicking it with was Paris Hilton. Peaked the most famous person on the planet.
That was when I saw, like, firsthand, real deal, new modern tabloid fame. i mean i had grown up with you know a

list celebrity parents and i saw that's more low-key and it hadn't this was peak paris coming in the game tabloid cover energy paparazzi and i will always say you know i'm not close with her i don't know her you know but she was so consistently nice and like a she didn't even need to like'm like entourage hanger on her like rando and still got treated with you know so i'll always say you know good for you that paris hilton era was the beginning of it all with paparazzi like do you think that sparked something in you of like damn no i was i was telling people at age 16 bringing in us weekly covers telling folks get ready i'm gonna be on the cover of us weekly and people like what is this my mom always had tablets so i grew up with tablets around the house and but nobody appreciated them like i did so i was pre-paris i was already coming hot like there was no doubt in my mind you were gonna be on those tabloids okay but in your head Spencer what were you thinking you were gonna be on the tabloids I had no idea but I was like I'm gonna be famous these famous people have it so figured out I mean because when you grow up seeing how famous people live like you know as a just eyes on like the the reservation that's world's over by the way like people are like oh he's so thirsty he still wants to be famous like fame isn't even cool anymore now and i would love to have it but it's still not you know 90s to early 2000s when these people live i mean they were taking helicopters landing on just the rules have changed the game so what i grew up thinking fame was is so different like i wouldn't grow up now be like oh all due respect to tiktok i love on TikTok but I don't think I'd be like oh my god I want to be a viral TikToker as like what I was chasing if you had grown up in Ohio like do you think because of where you grew up and what you were around is why you wanted to be famous because you got oh 100% like I think in Ohio one of these are states I would have ended up in like delta force and gone in the military or been a spy or something yeah that was my brand that's why i don't have tattoos because that was always like well if i am going to be jason born you can't have tattoos so you know like i was like deep logical but the problem was i lived in the palisades i was like i'd get killed or like go to nobu i wantbu, not have to go and fight crime. In a different state, that's the energy I have.
Okay. I was looking this up and nowhere is this story.
When and how did you meet Brody Jenner? Rewind to eighth grade. I won't say her last name.
Maybe she's anonymous. Heather was the it girl on the eighth grade soccer team.
And I was on the soccer bus because they had other guys and girls on the same soccer bus. Brody played no sports.
So eighth grade, Heather was the hot, super hot superstar girl. And Brody was her boyfriend.
And so I was like this dude. And Brody at this time thought he was, you know, it was pre-M&M, I think.
But Brody was like a large M&M, like no pun intended. You know, he was a bigger guy.
He loved melt cheese. I later found out he just melted a cube of cheese and just like eat it with a spoon.
So he then got ripped and like changed but this brody was like a rapper

melted cheese and i was like how is this happening so we had just beef in the sense i was like how is this your girlfriend like we have soccer practice together we have way more in common so i don't know what i said but we got in like the only little shoving match in middle school So that we had beef, right? But then years later this girl that I was seeing

Okay We got in like the only little shoving match in middle school. So that we had beef.

But then years later, this girl that I was seeing, Casey, I won't say her last name because

I'm not trying to catch a case.

She was dating me and I, somebody tells me that's Brody's girlfriend.

I'm like, she's not Brody's girlfriend.

Like, so I bring it up to her and I'm like, do you have a boyfriend? And she's like well I didn't think we were like exclusive care I was like oh no I don't care it's all good but it's like I reach out to Brody through mutual friends I'm like yo you know I know we're not cool or whatever but we should meet at Don Antonio's and talk you know because I guess I heard he like love this girl and I was like and so we meet up and i'm like your girlfriend is not your girlfriend he's like and i'm like i like i didn't know like she told me but i when i found out that's why i called you and he's like i'm gonna come like no no no no no you know this is pre all these team movies we should have made a team it was like i think we play this out a little bit. So we started becoming best friends on, like, making plans with her.

And then the other person would cancel.

Like, he'd cancel.

And then she called me.

And I'd be like, yeah, yeah.

And then she'd make it those plans.

And, like, we did this for a while to the point where, like, you know, maybe we crossed the line or whatever.

You know, but it was like, you know, you want to play the game?

We'll play the game.

Yeah, let's play it.

So we became best friends at, this was probably 18. How did you get to play the game? We'll play the game.
Yeah, let's play it. So we became best friends at, this was probably 18.

How did you get cast on the Hills?

So now we're going back to, I'm now in college.

I don't know how I see something about the Osbournes making $25 million for the,

and I'd seen the show.

I was like, oh, this is entertaining.

They got dogs pooping.

Ozzy yells like da, da, da, da. And um and so i'm like i'm gonna make a reality show so i call brody i'm like we got to meet at pf chang's when pf chang's had just this is like pf chang's was mr chow's at this point there wasn't mr chow's like this was the hottest chinese food spot you could go to so we meet at pf chang's he brings chucky his like consigulary like advisor chucky decou and uh so i'm like i want to make a reality show about you and he's like oh i don't know about that and chucky's like you should do it to brian as my advisor i'm like and he's like here's the deal if you come to my house tomorrow at 8 a.m with the camera start filming i'll do it and he's calling my bluff because I'm a sleeper in at this time.
I'm not trying to be up all the way in Malibu, like Cross Creek. So I had a camera because I just tried to shoot a documentary in Brazil about like I tried to make my own taken, you know, like pre-taken with like a kidnapping.
And I shot this full film that I was like. Can you please release release that it's pretty hardcore because it was like i use real people and like like people that see it are like this is so inappropriate and intense but like at that time kidnapping was like the big thing and i was already in brazil and i you know i was like i need to make a so it looks it's too real you know like it's like like it's like, so I'm like, whoa.
Like it was like, oh, we're in, we're tourists. And then like the vans come and duct tape.
Like it's crazy. You guys should like, but it like, I could have, if I had like a good editor, I would have won Sundance.
Cause it was like no act. Like I went to the favelas, gave people cash, all real guns from like got real cops to like i mean it was so crazy because i want to be a filmmaker you know like like i didn't you know that was clout was like michael bay like totally you know so i was like i'm making yeah so i edit this i show brody's like bro don't you dare show anybody this like you won go to jail but i mean everyone's in on it you know like nothing bad is happening yeah but it looks yeah and roadie's like people are gonna be a little concerned this was your girlfriend at the time like it's like she wanted to be an actress like she was an actor there's clearly evidence showing this was you know everyone was fine and like but it was a little too real it was as real as it was like so if i needed a kid now so in brazil like i have the full kind of just um so i had the camera the good camera gl2 canon and so i show up 8 a.m i have this one tape like i re-watched this the other day i show up

camera on him in his nose just trolling him like pushing it in he's like oh so i tell my parents i'm withdrawing from usc and i'm taking a leave of absence they're like what i'm like i'll make a reality show they're like oh my god i'm like don't worry i can go back i mean at this point And they're like, I'm glad he's back from Brazil.

You know, so I started just filming everything in the house, but his stepdad is a superstar, mega, and in real life, he's literally telling me, stop fucking filming me, get the fuck out of my house. And, you know, at the time, Paris and Nicole were onle were on fox so i was saying this is fox dave you know i didn't appreciate who he was brody said he makes elevator music like that was my this is david foster like so that's my percent and i'm like oh you make elevator music fuck off yeah like that was the energy like brody's like says you make elevator music so i had no like oh it's david i'm like in his face he's swearing at us you know he's like get the fuck out of my house and my head was like we have a bigger man we have a bigger mansion there's more dogs here they're like 10 dogs shitting everywhere and he was a superstar and then we have brody's mom linda thompson who at one time elvis was trying to marry dated elvis for five years l's incredible TV legend.
So she's playing all into it and letting us like, let the boys do the boys, you know. So, and I'm living the life too.
I'm never stopping filming because they got the chef. I'm going in the fridge.
I got a plate that says Dave. I'm eating his food all day from the chef.
And we edit it right there. Just like, you know, a few minutes.
On Sunday night, I get a call from this guy and he's like spencer i'm like who's this and he's like it's peter i'm like peter who and he's like peter chernan he's the chairman of news corp that owns fox and he's like you have a meeting tomorrow at 9 a.m with gail burman i'm like cool who's gail burman he's like spencer she's the president of fox television she knows the deal just go to the meeting i'm like okay and he hangs up i'm like okay so i called david foster and i talked i'm like going to fox fox man you know talking all the smack this is where he murked me out because he didn't have like now he's like oh this is real so he didn't have faith in me like i don't think he knew what level i had i'd already got it done yeah so he calls his boy because david's canadian he calls his homie from canada that like they had tried to do some projects together in the past and he's like you got to go to this meeting so i pull up like out of a movie and i get to the fox lot right there every time i drive by it now i still like god what a memory that you just can't even make up and I pull up my Spencer Pratt for Gail Berman and they're like oh sorry somebody already used your drive-on I'm like what does that mean they're like you're gonna have to park on the street and like I'm like wait what so now I'm like parking down Pico like running and I'm in my like dumb purple shirt that you know that I that I thought was like a fancy shirt, you know, that I didn't have like, I didn't like have designer clothes or whatever. So I like this stupid purple shirt on somehow later in that day, Peter Chernin sees me.
He's there and he's like, don't you ever wear that dumb ass shirt ever? I'm like, Oh, okay. But so I go into the meeting and I get in the elevator and this guy in this full suit is smoking a cigar and we're going up in the elevator and he's big old guy.
And he's like, uh, you know, I'm like, who's this guy? And these other guys in suits and sorry, they're like walking with me. And we're all walking.
I'm like, no, they're all going in the same place as me. So Gail offers us in that meeting $3.7 million.
I'm like, yeah, deal, deal, deal, fucking deal. And they're like, no, then we're like, we're going to go see some, we're going to ABC.
I'm like, who the fuck are these? Like, no deal. And so they jacked me and they like, if I hadn't called David, I would have so much more creative control, but I was 20.
And so then I find out like, you know, I get a lawyer and they're like, yeah, they're saying you're not the executive producer. I'm like, that sounds like I, it sounds like I am that.
And they're like, yeah, they're saying you're not. So I call Peter.
I'm like, they're saying I'm not. And he's like, makes a call.
And then now I'm executive producer. I was the youngest executive producer of a network television show to this day in history.
And they try to fight that. And so then they make the show.
And at this point on my first day of filming a Fox show, keep in mind, this is when Fox was peak Fox. We are getting launched with the reboot of Family Guy on Sunday nights before the Simpsons.
Our sponsor is Coca-Cola McDonald's that we're like getting ads. And they're like, I am like i am gonna be a millionaire like in a month i have my walkie talkie that says executive producer day one i'm behind camera they're filming and then everyone's like spencer you need to go in and like do what you're doing because in it everyone's always talking shit to me right like in the sizzle and everything because i'm like the like crutch the the bad like the guy that lives in the guest house to energy the Kato Kaelin vibe right so I'm like nah I got my walkie-talkie like you'll get to keep your walkie-talkie I'm like okay so I didn't realize I like it was like the matrix pill like I that was when I sabotaged my entire life of being taken seriously crossing in front of that camera I was like oh yeah I get my walkie-talkie still I got my title but yeah I didn't get that was the end of like anyone ever being like respecting you in this business but which is crazy to hear too for you Spencer because by you they clearly were like wait we're filming this shit and we're not getting the same thing that Spencer came with his DVD because it was you.
Brody was so comfortable with you being like, Spencer, get the fuck out of my face. And like David Foster's like, Spencer, like everyone knew you.
So they were giving you that content. They're not going to do it as easily in front of these like random, like guys with cameras.
So they needed you to get back in there. But that sucks that then your credit basically got taken as in terms of of a producer so i look still this whole time not getting that nobody else was going to think this what looked at myself as an on-camera producer i was just filming doing the story bites so that night linda has a talk with us our first night of filming and she's like i, I caught David cheating on me in the studio.
And I'm like, well, so, you know, like, what are we doing here? And so, like, we pretty much just, like, beg her to, like, just pause this, you know. And she's like, I now appreciate it more.
But at the time, like, I was so deep in, like, this like like who cares like let's roll like you let's

launch like and so she gangstered up and was like i'll do and i didn't really understand what she meant like i'll do the filming but i didn't get so then let's fast forward the night the show premieres she's like i informed fox that i'm filing for divorce tomorrow morning and i'm like what do what are, what do you know? You know, nowadays that rating's up. People love that dark thing.
This is a family-friendly Sunday hour. I get my third call from the chairman of the news crew.
He's like, Spencer, what the F? We bought a family-friendly show for Sunday nights. I'm pulling the plug.
After next week's episode, it's done. So we get the one, you know, rated well for the summer.
We get one more. And I just just lost and i spent all my money that my first check on my bmw that now i like didn't have money for gas you know figuratively speaking like because i was like game on you know we're gonna be so rich damn that's wild that like day one of filming she also that just set caught him cheating and you're like wait no to film in.
Everything. This two, we need the family together.
And then the rest of the season, they just like, she tried to fake it for you. Yeah, she did.
Damn. She's a real good actor.
Damn. So I get that call.
I'm like, oh my God, I have to go back to college? You know, like, so now I'm back in college. Brody Jenner had step siblings at the time.
When do you remember meeting Kim Kardashian for the first time? And what was she like back then? All right. So I just shout out Esquire magazine for profiling me.
And the big, I thought this was going to be like positive. But since I said I should be Kim Kardashian, people like got all weirded out about that but it's I feel that you know so I'm just going to defend myself so now we're at the first night of the princes of Malibu our Fox show I didn't even know he had stepsisters I wasn't even aware maybe I met them that night like totally irrelevant week later you know this has been denied, but Rhode's the witness and I don't know if he'll maybe he'll say it but it's true we get a call from Chris Jenner who I don't know and he puts her on speaker and she's like we should do what you're doing in Malibu with our family in the valley with your dad Brody and and he hangs up and I'm like the valley you know because like when i grew up like you did not this isn't me saying this is what i grew up knowing there was nobody filming anything in the valley except pornos you know like that was what the i you know that's where they shot yeah people used to shit on the valley it was yeah now give me one of those 80 million dollar valley houses i guess it's still you need good ac i so we laughed haha and i've thought about it a million times was that the call that like sabotaged my whole life that i didn't take but then i really thought about a million times they went to then to ryan seacrest who had a first look deal with e they had to make a show per his contract and they went to him and he had the power of not only E! News, Kiss FM was popping.
He just got American Idol. Like that's a solid, I don't think if Brody and I had gone with cameras, shot the Kardashians, it would have been with the Kardashians.
Like everything came perfect for what their magical portal happened so I've thought about it a trillion times but I met her for real for real in the club I remember area you know she was wearing like an Irve ledger silver purplish dress you know and she Kim looked like a superstar and was famous like she deserves day one jump she was famous at this point energetically she knew who she was gonna be so she had that aura and like you know I was joking with Kim and you know we're all having fun she was totally cool but that I remember meeting him and like her at the club and like you know then she later filmed on the hills and organized Heidi's closet and they didn't use the footage and i once said this in an interview and her publicist was like this is absolute lie and then mtv pulled out the clip think one time they ever backed me with receipts and like showed unedited kim like every now and then somebody tags me in a tweet of her like tweeting at me like you be heidi and reggie need to go on a double date and I'm like how was I so popping in my head that I'm not like following through with this double I did follow through when Miley Cyrus tweeted us and we went and double dated with her and that so I wasn't too insane but if I had done everything different and if I was like super like for how thirsty I am like what I should have done is been friends with everybody that's what Kim is was so good at and I'm not that type of person like I don't want to go have fake lunches and fake drinks and what if I played the game like a pro I would have gone to drinks all the time with people that hated me and I hated them back and we just all be fake but it's like that's the problem with being a real person which is good for reality tv but like not for networking and building these because people message me like oh we should do this and you can reach out to like your celebrity friend like my what friends like I got my friends from preschool and they don't even want me to name drop that I know them you know so no I I appreciate that because I think that a lot of people don't know about the princess of Malibu like if you're on TikTok sorry but people may not know about it and I think that it was interesting when you look back at your history that you started this like basically little reality show following Brody around and Kim is just like there in a scene and you're like whoa like this was the beginning and then i i believe you that chris called because it's like you guys were doing it before the kardashians started it no and uh at the time bruce not wasn't caitlin so at the time bruce was filming for princess so chris is they didn't use any of the footage but like he would come film right and he'd be it. So he's going back home and tell me, this is crazy, da, da, da, da.
And at the same time, the Simple Life's popping. So Kim's knowing about reality TV through Paris.
That's when reality TV really started to pop off was slowly the Simple Life. And then obviously, though, the biggest, I think, was when The Hills hills popped off and that was when it was like holy shit this is reality tv and because yes how i got to the hills yeah yeah yeah uh it's gonna be a it's gonna be two-part call her daddy podcast uh so come on come on we're gonna merch get your merch call daddy.com so um so yeah.
Go back to college. So go back to college.
And then one day I'm back from class, whatever. And my mom's best friend, Lucy, they're in there watching this show.
And my mom's friend is like, you should date this girl. She's so cute.
I'm like, what is this? And they're watching it. She's like, date this girl.
She's so cute. And it's Heidi.
And I'm like, what is this show? Like, how is this even a show? This is season one. I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life.
And I'm like, this is on TV? Like, yeah, it's so cute. And I see one of the names of the executive producers was a guy that Brody and I literally hired.
Like, we had a meeting. We hired him.
So I have his cell phone number. I call him.
I'm like, Mother Bunger, you have a new show and you didn't put Brody and I? And he's like, Spencer, no. It's a this girl from laguna beach you like it's not like that i'm like oh no it's like that we'll see you in the club like i don't think so that's our show you got like hollywood like this one brody was like running the clubs and like so all due respect no girl from laguna beach is doing a hollywood show i'm, they have a Hollywood show and you're not including us.
Like, yeah. So we're out.
It's club was called Privilege. Justin Timberlake was just popping with Sexy Can-Eye, I think.
I remember it just like hitting so hard in the, in the frickin club. And so this is when I was very into dancing.
You know, this was people dance back then back then people weren't too cool to dance we wanted to stand around like it was like yeah dancing time so i was dancing and then kristen was at the bar with heidi and heidi just in season one i didn't know what even that meant nobody hills was not popping so heidi and i clear the dance floor we're having a great time dancing hit it. We all drive back to Brody's house in Malibu.
So she ends up spending the night. We, you know, she says it's love at first sight.
I guess now in retrospect it was. But, you know, I had, you know, player, ego, clout, fame, vibes.
So I was like, and then she tells, you know, we're seeing each other. But she is seeing, you know, she's not exclusive either to me.

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You were attracted to her. Yeah, this is why I liked her.
She was no victim. I wasn't playing her.
It was like battle. We were on a master chess dating.
Can you tell us who she was dating? Yeah, she was dating Chase Crawford, who was the it like hot guy you know peak you know gossip girl yeah like couldn't be cooler so she wasn't like oh poor spencer like right there was not that i love hearing you say that though because i always felt that vibe from heidi but they always cast her as this like damsel in distress like jordan's being mad mean to me and then she meets you, and it's like Spencer's being mean to me. I'm like, that's not the vibe I get from Heidi.
So the problem with Heidi and I, we love making TV shows and doing what the producer's saying. Here's the problem with The Hills.
All male producers, East Coast waspy freaking dudes, that they're now in charge of representing young women in hollywood and they're putting their toxic male weird narrative spins that they that's not facts and it's not real life because i don't even think any of these guys date you know like they don't know maybe they saw it in a movie or something like they can't fathom a woman like spitting game on a guy and like change your number like fuck you way better show too it's like real heidi was i always say this people to this day like oh how are you still it's like because you don't know real heidi like you guys are all yeah like it's like it's yeah like i'm they're not showing me begging her to be boyfriend girlfriend you know she's like i don't want that title like right you know like she was more yeah so yeah she had games she was a gangster like you know so now knowing that's actually a really great story that it goes all the way back to your mom looking at the tv and being like oh you should date this girl and then you guys actually meet and you immediately have a vibe what was your first impression of lauren conrad when you met her call her daddy is brought to you by better help daddy gang i have talked to you about how therapy has been such a great investment, a big investment, but a great investment. And because I know the state of my mind and how I feel about myself is so important to me enjoying life in general and being a good person and being a good friend and being a good daughter and being a good wife, that investment has returned to me tenfold.
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Please drink responsibly hard seltzer with flavors. White seltzer works chicago illinois what was your first impression of lauren conrad when you met her all right so let's do a disclaimer here for you know lc stands because they always like oh my god he still has to talk about lc it's like no no i was connected to a television franchise and this is a co-star that is part of my fame people i would love to have never talked to her for about the rest of my life but i am a great guest and i am honest and truthful so there you go uh so that's for the comment section so i i mean nice nice girl like i we was all good to the point where I talked Brody in to breaking up in Nicole Ritchie to fake double date with LC.
So like, that's the level of how I felt about it. Like, let me help make your life better by bringing the best looking guy in Hollywood right now who all the girls want to date.
I'll get him to break up with his celebrity, you know, superstar girlfriend. I will get him to come on to your show, pretend to be your, you know, interest to just everyone wins.
You know, so like I was I'm a teammate. I come from being on a team sport.
I didn't play tennis. I didn't play golf like the team wins.
That's how I've always thought. So I was like, let's all win.
We'll double gate. And I was already in the, the you know game from like working with the paparazzi for princes of Malibu and setting up our shoots and so like I was like you know our first double date I had us coming out of the grove you know all due respect to Elsie she'd never been in a tabloid until I unlocked that for her and gave her the you know as a teammate not you know I don't know, I don't want credit.
I, I wanted us all to win. So I had our paparazzi.
This is pre, the entire world now does this. This was, this was vintage genius, uh, where you work with them instead of like hiding from them.
Cause this one tabloids sold like albums, like you could Drake, you know, one week, 3 million sales on us week. Like this was was superpowers that i knew understood and i just watched a season two episode lc knew because if you look at on the couch she has every tabloid in her lap that's what she's reading so don't be mad at me girl so we come out of our double date and i'm like make sure you guys look to the left you know this is off camera just i'm really trying to like get us all to hang out on friends.
Cause now Heidi and I are seeing each other, not boyfriend, girlfriend. And she's like, what is, and I'm like, it's our camera.
She's like, you call the paparazzi. I'm like, yeah, to get you in a Mac.
And so that was, I was like, oh, you're not all there. You know, like don't have a full deck running here as you're trying to be on your second television show.
Like, it's not like I'm all for for people who don't want to be famous, but like, you're on a second show. Like, you spun off.
Like, I get like it fell into your lap in high school and it came to you and you auditioned, but now you've spun off. You are choosing the path of fame.
So now I'm like, so she, from the jump, kind of was weirded out. Like, oh, Spencer's, like, that's why she'll say things like, I don't trust it's like you didn't understand like I was ahead of this game like I already saw how this worked on a way bigger scale because I'm not from Laguna Beach you know like I'm from here and watching Paris watching how Nicole like Nicole's an actual you know we ended up having a falling out or whatever miss I was misquoted I think well.
But she's a genius. So, like, she's a fame genius.
So I studied under, you know, I'll call her a mentor in the fame game. So I, she just, oh, she knows the game.
That's why Paris called her smartest friend to be her teammate. She didn't call Kim.
You know, like, hey, you so uh back to like you know everything we were best friends she's like you want to meet my dad but eventually the brody couldn't play pretend anymore yeah i wasn't saying fake date lc that wasn't the initiative like i was like this would be great like heidi's cool their roommates like i was hoping it worked out it didn't work from night one. You know, so once she was onto that, she wanted her amazing wingman, which I under wingwoman totally get Heidi to not be with me.
So her selfish motivations, she can put it on all these reasons of like, oh, I don't trust him or look at she knew Heidi. Like she knew Heidi's game.
She knew about this and we know her these girls were not victims okay they had their own television show they were in the right in the heart of Hollywood they're going out every night getting tables these aren't these like pilgrims that like we're like oh he's poor little innocent right you know yeah these girls are savvy and I didn't get raised on being on television while 16 17 like you're a veteran at this point like yeah i understood the back side of like tabloids and media but when it came to making a tv show and like murking out people and like yeah you know what comments say this like this is a level. Yeah.
With regard to your relationship with Heidi,

how did you guys separate reality from reality TV

to keep your relationship healthy?

Thank God the show was so fake that it was,

you know, every time,

now and then Heidi would get a little too drunk.

Like one time in Aerie,

like she knew I told her like,

we're going to call these playmates.

I'm going to bring these girls.

And she knew and she's like,

I'll meet you there.

And then drunk Heidi's like,

I think that's the problem when you play reality like there's times where you know it affects you in real life so thankfully it was so fake that all the fighting and everything was so like planned and rehearsed and scripted that it didn't and

then the other thing is we lived in my parents house in the palisades like in my high school

room like so we leave hollywood and just go have our simple you know life and uh you know we weren't

up in the scene like it looks so like we never lived in that apartment that we filmed in or

Thank you. you know life and uh you know we weren't up in the scene like it looks so like we never lived in that apartment that we filmed in or that house we filmed in so I imagine it would have been harder if we were immersed in that world and these were our real friends and our real relationship but you guys really took a turn to be like the most hated couple in the world and Heidi got all the surgery did you ever try to convince Heidi not to get surgery no one thing I never tried to do with ever with Heidi and what people don't understand is like Heidi's the boss like I work for Heidi to this day like that's this whole like I you know like that's people who really know the inner workings of our relationship like like excuse my french like i'm the pussy whip like you know like it's not like oh heidi i think you should do this like heidi came from a little town in crested but with dreams of being a star like she like so no i never told heidi what to do because i've just i'm i was i was her.
She's like, put the camera on me, cameraman. Like, you know, if you watch the footage, like I'm just her cameraman.
I said to her yesterday, I'm like, I'm literally your cameraman. So also let's rewind to surgery because it's in tears.
First time she even got the idea of getting surgery was Us Weekly approached her and was like, hey, we have this top wasn't even in her head you know that wants to do you know we'll give you a nose job and implants and he's like and they're like this would cost 50 000 whatever and heidi's a hustler and she's like 50 000 for free and this us weekly is coming to me right i'm not gonna say his name ken came to her um and so you know yeah you know and she'd grown up getting made fun of about her nose her whole life you look this was early day comment section every single comment i'm always like don't read that as just saying she has a jay leno chin and so she's now in her head of all these things that's early you know comment section so then she has this meeting with this top you know rest in peace dr frank ryan he's dead but she has a meeting with him and he she's showing he's showing her all the a-list superstars all the things he's done but you know sign top secret they're not telling anyone it's just she's realizing this is the game so she does the nose job boobs it's not the end of the world people don't you know, she didn't have to tell the truth also. Like this time, I'm not going to say other big pop people were literally, without a doubt, got nose jobs.
Got it. Like that was standard operating procedure.
But Heidi is just honest. Like I'm going to tell people this is what I did, which, you know, I'm like, I don't care, whatever.
Like keep in mind, I've already dated Heidi for so long, in so long in love already felt like this isn't like oh this is what you need to do now for us to be like we're already battling the world like this isn't going to change our relationships i'm like i don't win win like i don't care either way whatever do what you want to do to your body i'm scared and i couldn't even i can't even get shots like so it's way past my world of like knives and you know so all good the follow-up the one that people all freaked out on i'll never forget i even have it on video as she's going in because she when she was doing her miss universe she got elbowed by one of the backup dancers and they hit her nose and so she like like it's like dead in they're gonna like pop it out whatever so she goes to have like that done that morning he's like hmm while you're under we you know we could just little and i hear the word minor so many times it's like it's so early in the morning when you drop these people off for surgery it's like i'm not even thinking i hear minor started just like i don't i hear she's already got lip injections that seem minor like oh minor and you hear the word injectable and this it's everything's minor and he just had this blue pen and he's just like like there's a lot of blue neither of us are thinking like oh my god he's like this is minor is the word we heard a million times cut to like the most traumatic so no it was not like a positive time that's also just so crazy to hear you talk about it too because of like how manipulative and really scary like when you're young you don't understand and these doctors should do a better job of explaining like the fact that they said minor to you and you're like it was in the morning also the fact that you're like it was the day of and they're like we can just do this like we'll scoop out your back we'll pin back your ears we'll and he's saying the price of each thing and like back to heidi who's like a banker he's like this is 25 i mean it was like a quarter million dollars when he like he's like and i'll cross all this was like out of like a movie where he like you're like shopping for clothes and they add it all up and he's like void zero dollars so it's like in her head in this business it's like a business like oh my god he's giving me a quarter million to like make and this is what all i'm not gonna name stars but this is what all they do but they spread it out like everything she did is like standard a-list totally i'm not naming the women but but it's obvious this is is standard A-list women, but once a year, you know, you don't knock it all out. You don't drop it off at the body shop.
What do you miss about being one of the most famous couples in the world at the time? Oh, just the money. Yeah.
Like I would, if you asked me to never be famous or just be rich, I would have, I thought the easy way to get rich like if i put the amount of energy as i put into being famous as just like doing like a normal rich person job like a banker like i would be rich so uh yeah like how the e like getting just paid by co-cola to hold a co-cola he's ten thousand dollars like like what? Yeah. So like that level of like, and then people are like, why do you want to be famous? Like, because that, it's so hard, but it's so easy when you're like in the, when you're getting the checks.
Like at one time, we were making a million dollars a year selling our paparazzi photos. Like going and looking cheesy, you know, like dressing up in dumb little like easter bunny like so that part is yeah hands down that makes sense so people hated you more than people who murdered people you were more hated than oj simpson at one point and casey anthony yep how did that make you feel at the time well at the time it was a victory because dav Foster had put me into the game by, he knew Simon Cowell.
I didn't watch American Idol. And he was like, Spence, once the Fox started going, he's like, you need to be the young Simon Cowell.
I was like, who? Like, he's like, the hated guy, the villain, the like, you know, I was like, gotcha. Like, sounds easy, coach.
Put me in. So I, there was no social media.
I was so naive to think. And I thought everybody knew Hollywood was just lights, camera action, fake as could be.
I didn't understand middle America. This was Bible, you know, like this was, you know, the Holy Spirit over here.
And I'm over here just trying to get ratings bonuses. Like if we ever got to 5 million, I got a million dollar check just that day.
So no matter what I'm reading, I'm over here like chasing a million dollar one, like, we're like at 4.2, 4.2. I'm like, Oh, what could I do to get to that million dollars to do what I'm already doing that night? So my mindset at that point, at one time I had like hatespencerpratt.com where like you could go and like comment like I hate like I thought it was so fun and like ridiculous until you know I started driving around and like everyone was just flicking me off out windows I was like oh my god like who's watching this show like chill like I thought this was like a fun was, like, a fun, like, party show.
Like, why are you guys? Isn't the news on? Like, aren't we in Iraq? Like, isn't there a war? Like, I just never understood. Because I came from, like, play pretend with the princes and everything.
And I just thought, you know. So, no.
You understood what you were doing. And then when people did it and they thought it was real, you like wait guys yeah and i'm in cowl yeah no no and like brody will say to anybody else like spencer planned every single like he's a witness to like the pre yeah like the the blueprint like i executed it too well you know and here's how they got me and this is how the predatory producer, you know, and me being naive and Heidi just hit me with this.
And I was like, Oh my God, I'm so triggered by that quote. They were always saying, um, we're going to, uh, this is your redemption arc.
We're going to redeem. So I'm always chasing, like you do this and then we're going to, so I'm like, I like this.
But it's like, I should have been like, watch Batman. I'm like, there's no way the Joker is getting redeemed.
Like part three, you know, like, like I just, I just like, Oh yeah, that sounds great. You're going to redeem me.
Yeah. What season four, like, woo.
So like I, I fell for that just con, which, you know, that's the problem when you're 23 and you do think you're smarter than everybody, which I obviously was not. That I just got, you know, I thought I was in with everybody and I'm working with this producer that I already made this show with.
But it's like, oh, no, they were sailing me off the waterfall like Niagara. And, you know, I didn't care because they're also blood money paying, you know, we're the highest paid people on television at this time.
So I i'm going i had a million dollar suit collection not even wear suits and then i gave them all to my friend who was a real estate agent shout out mikey p and you know so like like because i was like what do you do with all this money you buy suits like it's a ritual no oh no no buy gold that's what i would say that's the one thing i did that was smart at one time. I bought all this gold.
So I carried a backpack around with half a million gold coins. Because you can't spend gold.
It would keep you in line. What about a business manager? We had a problem with business managers, let me tell you.
They take your money? Not only do they take, they take 5% of all the money you spend because they have to do like do the math for it oh so be careful with a business manager because they love you spending money that's their favorite was your friend you're like i can't spend this yeah i should have bought more of it right right right okay spencer you created the concept i am now convinced i look back and i'm like there was simple life um there was like uh newlyweds with Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey. Like early, early days.
But you created the reality show villain. Oh, I'll take that 1,000%.
Right? Give me my one credit. Yes.
I'm going to add that to my Wikipedia. The originator of the reality star villain.
And it was fun until you realize like there's no getting out. So as I look back, they were Frankenbiting is which I learned later is where they're just taking audio and putting it there and putting you at an event.
You're not at saying you did this. Like I was just watching this episode where Lauren comes in like that Heidi stood her up and there's a note from Heidi.
Anyone that knows Heidi, her handwriting looks like Egyptian hierogly like she doesn't know what she's writing I don't know if she can even write like and so this cute little note like sorry Lauren L.C. like I can't hang out like went to the movies of censor love you like perfect calligraphy like Heidi never wrote that note they never told her she was standing up L.C.
it's like these simple things like murk you out and Lauren's playing her long she knows Heidi didn't write that note and coming in like Heidi Heidi

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I've sat down with reality people now and sitting down with you who was like the originator of the villain I want to expose how easily the edit process is that reality tv uses to make something look like a conversation happened and it really was a complete different conversation that happened do you know what I mean so who is someone that you really dislike like someone that pisses you off and can get you like riled up you can be adam davillo okay i'm adam davillo okay and i'm going to we're about we're in a fight we are in a fight right now i'm adam you're spencer and i'm talking so much shit to you this is what's gonna happen is the point is is i'm gonna it's like i'm a producer being like you're pissed at adam what would you say to adam and it's like fuck you and then you walk out of the interview. What I's going to happen is the point is, is I'm going to it's like I'm a producer being like, you're pissed at Adam.
What would you say to Adam? And it's like, fuck you. And then you walk out of the interview.
What I'm going to do is at the beginning of this episode, it's going to be a cold open. And I'm going to dub in a different question of me being like, Spencer, you're irrelevant.
How do you feel? And you're going to be looking at me when really everyone right now will see what that original thing was. I'm talking about Adam Davillo, but we're going and make it look like you were shitting on me and you walk out of the color daddy interview oh my gosh you ready it's so scary well give me a few minutes to tell you how I'm envisioning it no I see the vision but I'm just like trying to think about what I would actually say that could come off believable like fuck you you're fucking predatory person that's pretty good oh my god that's better than anything we had that's way stronger than a fuck you do you have a notes app of what you want to say to billow uh yeah i do you need to drink some of your okay your flat we need well we're gonna need to get we can do it twice like we just want to get the best and again what is happening right here is gonna go in the episode just so you know you're not getting fucked over like we're gonna show this pro you know as long as this goes on spotify yeah i don't care what you show power of, baby.
I liked that first line you said.

Yes.

But it's not dramatic enough.

Right.

Because, I mean, you are a predatory person.

I can't even take it seriously.

Okay.

Here we go.

I think it would be dramatic if you get up and walk i'm gonna

definitely okay okay you're practicing you're practicing oh yeah

Fuck you Fuck this interview

Stupid podcast

Fuck this shit's over in here

What the fuck

That was good. Spender! The low key.
Spender! Dude, that was good. That was good.
It has to be more low key. I agree.
I agree. No, I think that was pretty good because you said, fuck you, fuck this.
I'm going to do one more and I'm going to keep guys this is the this is I'm like poking him I'm Adam Develo I'm like you are so that's the thing you wouldn't even that's what's so crazy about reality Adam Develo wouldn't be here they send these they call the for the hills it was called the she was called the collector that's how shady this shit is to collect the fuck and she would just get shit out No, she would come and like she fake jerked off and busted a nut on my face to pump like to like and it worked and i like went nuts okay so let's like channel that annoyance who let me call it who do i dislike hi honey who do i who do i really dislike that i could channel? Just like lots of anger for a fake scene here. I feel like I don't talk to enough people to hate anybody anymore.
I just want to hate your car. Oh, thank you, honey.
I knew you would know. Love you, honey.
Bye. Love you, honey.
I'm so excited to be part of it. You I'll put you on the mic there you go you're good love you shout out shout out PrattDaddy.com PrattDaddy.com love you stream superficial um so yeah oh lots of people did but one one I have to see pretend I'm him'm him.
You're a fucking loser.

Yeah.

This is the biggest fucking waste of time.

I can't even believe

Spotify gave you

a fucking show.

I bet this doesn't even

last another fucking year.

Why don't you just delete

this whole fucking episode?

Good luck with your

little imaginary boyfriend

you never show on

fucking IG stories. Fuck you, Alex.
Fuck you. Fuck you.
Fuck you. Spencer! Spencer! Meryl Streep! No, that was good.
What I've learned is like, the more exaggerated the faker it looks now because now everyone is so exaggerated on all these shows so you gotta like well in post edit and that's the beauty again i'll share with everyone watching is like we'll look back and see which one looks more real maybe the first one looks more real because it was less try hard i may even you know the holy spirit i may give you a third just out of nowhere so you know third you know you have to know, you have to do these 12 times. That's like that video I sent you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I rewatched it like this supposedly where I'm bullying Heidi into like moving in with

me to like, I would never move into Curson Avenue.

Like I'm not bullying anyone to like live across from fucking boa or boca.

What is it?

I don't even like a liquor store.

Like, so no, I was not.

But this big scene, this was when it was a wrap for me was when I, she's like, I don't

Thank you. Like doing her Meryl Streep level.
And I'm like, then get at my answers. Get out of my car.
We did that at least 12 times. They're like floor the car more.
And we're like shooting the exhaust pipes. She gets in the car right after we go to Don Antonio's like, that just a night, but boom.
And here's how I'm even crazier. The song that they put to it, like Apologize, I gave them the One Republic song.
I was like, this would be so good because Heidi was in talks to do a song with Ryan Tedder and he played me that. I'm like, I'll get this on the hill.
So then I even gave them the murder song. As we're kind of...
We're not wrapping up. No, we're not.
Oh my God. No, no, no, we're not.
You're like, I'm like I'll get this on the hill so then I even gave them the murder song as we're kind of we're not wrapping up no we're not oh my god no no no we're not you're like I'm not leaving thank you for playing along that was a great promo is there a specific manufactured storyline you regret saying yes to yeah this sex tape I didn't think people like big deal I thought it was like clout too like Kim just made so much off of hers. It wasn't a negative.
No tape even ended up coming out. So like I thought that, that's why I played along, called a fake producer.
That wasn't on the phone with LC. It was me pretending to apologize to something I didn't do to a producer.
Like, yeah. To your knowledge, did Adam Davilo ever abuse his power when producing the show and in what ways? You know, here's what's so funny.
Like, I was ready to go all in on Adam Davillo, but I'm a mercenary. If they call me right now to be on Selling Sunset and I hate him more than anyone on earth, I'd be like, what's my fee? You know, like, so you can't even ask somebody who's, like, a mercenary about people because, like, I should have known his last name is Devil with an O.
Like that's not a coincidence. And think here's the other thing that I now have the benefit of perspective with.
Yeah. Like we've now been on two seasons of Celebrity Big Brother.
We are locked up, you know, 50 plus days of producer. We did I'm a Celebrity.
Get me out of here. Marriage Bootcamp, Wife Swap, Famous Food, like the list of shows of dealing with producers, not to mention all these pilots who shoot and like there's nobody like that guy.
So here's the problem with people like Adam and how they'll always win. They're male and he brings in his enablers and they're all like guarded.
You know, I'm not saying this is like, they will always win because there's that me, the mercenary. Cause I know this is a demonic demon.
And I was like, put me on Netflix. So all of these people around Christine, they're not going to back her because they don't want to rock the ship.
They don't want to, you know, they don selling sunset to end so that's how me too and this these people are enabled because the people around them are like ain't happening to me like you because i'm one of his like i'm sure the way he treated whitney and lc and god knows how they probably love him because when things did come out and heidi's story whatever guess who's the first one to be like he's the best guy ever maybe to you but that's not the truth like that's your

like you can't defend you know so totally and I think it's fucked up because like you're saying

these men in these position of power insulate themselves with all these other men that are

going to make him like almost impenetrable to any type of any type of getting in trouble and however

Thank you. with all these other men that are going to make him like almost impenetrable to any type of any type of getting in trouble and however what you're saying also is because you're the mercenary it's fucked up like we saw Christine Quinn was one of the first people which she's fortunate she's got a lot of fucking money she's got her own money and she's got her husband that has a fuck ton of money and so when you're in a position where you need this person that's in a position of power and fucked up, but you need to make a living, you need money.
You're kind of at the hands of their power. And so I hear what you're saying.
You're like, I would take the Netflix show because that's what your career is. But you're not saying he's a good guy.
I want to because I I've never talked about this to my listeners. So when Heidi was on Call Her Daddy last year she brought up an incident where the producer from the hills was physical with her after filming that episode the MTV rep that repped Heidi called my team and said you need to take that out of the episode or you can't air it I don't even know if heidi knows this definitely doesn't know okay shout out joya and jay and uh who else i love you guys i don't even know so we get that's so shady because it's like they protect the net like i love mtv but it's like that's adam she didn't say mtv you can't like that's the so my team gets this call and daddy gang listening like you can go back and that interview I they said you have to take that part out or you can't air the episode I thought it was coming from Heidi and I'm like who am I to put someone's like abuse story out there if they don't want it out so I took it out of the episode fast forward a few weeks ago Christine Quinn sits down with me and she talks about how Adam Davillo is the new producer who is the original producer of The Hills.
And she mentions Heidi's name in the interview saying we both had really bad experiences with these producers. Immediately, I message Heidi.
I go right to Heidi because I'm like, I don't want to put your name in the episode if you're not comfortable with it. I know Christine doesn't want to speak for you.
I want to make sure you're good with it and Heidi was like absolutely put it in there it's the truth to which I then realized oh my god last year I fully got played I was like last year that was not Heidi not wanting to put that in but now that you're done with the hills can you explain what the fuck happened with that whole situation? Again, I wasn't there. I was never allowed to be.
That's why these predator type people like that, people that want the smoke, they won't have. Like, I never interacted with Adam ever once he knew my level.
You know, like, you don't play. Like, I don't play.
So I never got to interact with Adam because it would have been on. So I was banned from the shoot, the photo shoot that this happened.
So what I did was send, shout out Kevin Carlson, her bodyguard to go in my place. Cause I, you know, I'm like, I'm not, I'm not allowed to go to her photo shoot.
So again, you would need Heidi need Heidi here but from my what I recall is she had one of those loose fitting you know I guess there was also a comment about her new boobs you know like you know because she just had nobody had seen that whatever and uh she had one of those backs that like her open back where it's like pretty much like in the right angle it's like

butt cheek you know like of a dress and I guess he like put his hand like ash cheek grab and the security to the point where he like chopped her his hand off and was like checked him you know shout out Kevin um gangster but he was there this happened so we had a witness we like he was you out it makes me really sad for heidi that it took years like everyone is believing christine quinn right now oh i literally when this came out i all again i didn't watch selling sunset because i hate this person so much i don't care how good the show is adam right but when i saw this i was like this is an angel from heaven just came out and then she's in this outfit i'm like she is out of the this is the matrix this is literally trinity coming to like and it took what 12 years like you can go back on google and she was like this is not appropriate like you can't like she felt the point where she called me and i was like what did that so i called and i left some psycho message you know like i'm i. I hope you do.
You know, but here's how weird life is.

And so when I went back to college to finally graduate in 2013,

I'm in a Staples on Olympic.

And I go, because I drink lots of water and fluids,

I go to pee in the Staples.

And, you know, I'm not a, like a, I like to go in the stalls to pee.

I feel more protected, you know.

So I open the stall door. Guess whose face I look at? Adam.
Adam Davillo. I haven't seen this person since 2000, maybe the first night of Hills filming.
I've never even seen him since then open. And he looks like I'm there to murder him, you know.
Because this is like some random staples in the men's room, in the stall. He's coming out and he's like, and it took me, I didn't like process like who is like, why is this freaking out? So out of context.
Yeah. Like what's happening? I just want to pee.
Like you're blocking the urinal here, like toilet, get out of the way. And he's like, Spencer, what are you doing here? I'm like, Adam, like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm going to the bathroom.
I'm like, I'm like, why are you in staples? I'm like, buying books for college. Why are you here? He's like, because I work down the street and this is the better bathroom.
I'm like, huh? So to this day, I think he doesn't believe I was buying Staples and it was like, I can touch you if I want. I could get you anywhere type.
Just know anytime you're going to the bathroom, I could open the stall door and be there. That's how I think God wanted me to have that last, don't ever feel too cozy on that toilet because that door could open and it could be me.
Spencer Pratt. It was a weird moment.
But it's like I didn't have, it had been three years. I was i hadn't been i'm now back in the game trying to be famous again so like i'm mad again but then i didn't like really care but he couldn't accept that like and i was so chill and i was like oh what are you up to like and he was like what are you and then heidi comes like why are you here she's like i'm like it was just he probably he couldn't he did not believe it could have been a coincidence.
Yeah, no way. He's like, you are here to kill me.

Or stalking me.

One trillion percent.

Here's the weirdest part.

So years before this,

just to show you how demonic this project with the Hills was. Yeah.

We go out for a pitch with one of these evil producers

because again, we're mercenaries.

And he's like, hey, I want to pitch you to Lifetime.

We're like, okay.

Like his right hand guy.

So we go this pitch and we're sitting there and he's like it's amazing we can all tell him this lifetime executive that we can all sit here I mean at one time we were trying to steal Heidi's soul and like Heidi just starts hysterically crying in real life because she's like so triggered by like knowing that like she felt that and it's like the pitch went so sideways like stealing her soul like what we adam davillo said no no his right oh his right hand man his literally said at one point we were trying to steal heidi sold now look where we are like and we can all be together and like pitch and heidi's like that's why i felt that way for so many years you fucking psychos Okay What is the wildest thing you've done To make a headline

Tell us

Oh I mean fucking psychos okay what is the wildest thing you've done to make a headline tell us oh i mean

any headline you ever saw i was behind and so it's like i actually thanks to my mom she's like

i have a the biggest thing you've ever seen in your life of every cover tabloid everything i've

ever been in and the other day i pulled it out just to like because i was gonna do tiktoks on

Let's go. you've ever seen in your life of every cover tabloid everything i've ever been in and the other day i pulled it out just to like because i was gonna do tiktoks on them was like everyone was the most crazy stories i'm like made that up made that up made that up one time we made our entire house look like it we were squatters they're not squatters like like uh what are those people that like fill up a house with stuff oh hoarder hoarders we filled it up with hoarders and like you know like just made it like piled up and like got a in touch magazine cover like Heidi and Spencer are in squalor in touch cover I think we got 25k shout out Dan Wakeford um what the fuck yeah like so I mean like that's like a petty one but like everything you could ever think of we once did a deal for like a half a million just for four covers of us weekly there's no we didn't know what the covers were it's like let's make stuff up you know so i'd have to go through but like the weirdest thing that i didn't have to do with that i saw headline recently that heidi called me uh the article said heidi called me like chicken legs or something and spencer was gonna get calf implants i was like calf implants like even if i had i do have a big calf but like i wouldn't i hate needles but like that's the level calf i was like so i have so many of them that's behind them all you know that's really cool that You have those like mementos oh i want to frame them all and heidi's like there's they're not going on the wall i'm like this is art honey this is art put them next to our portraits in our homes of ourselves we do have every cover frame but i want like i want spreads frame like six pages is every one of these are there's a lot of bs we had to make up i love so i should be in creative writing because he's like you be on and you just be you know i yeah i don't think people give you enough credit i always complain about that that's one of my i'm chasing credit i'm gonna give it to you right now like you went to usc the whole backstory i'm happy you told us of the princes of malibu.
Like, knowing you went to Brazil, you were shooting. I will let you watch that.
I want to watch it. You can watch.
I will let you. And then I'll tell you what I think.
No, I know. You're going to be like, you could win an Oscar.
It's insane. Like, it's the work of art.
Okay, Spencer, what are you insecure about insecure about not getting credit you know for like for my level of like energy i put into success you know i don't i don't get treated with any credibility you know so that's an insecurity in the sense that like i've worked since 2004 non-stop on reality tv fame and you know and people are just like oh i hate a guy from the hills that took work full like i was working like that's a job um so you know that's definitely an insecurity and you know thankfully being a dad created my new focus on just being like the best dad. So it's like, it's less selfish.
So no matter what, like I've now transitioned, like I'm kind of like a rap, you know, like whatever happens with my career and like titles, like now I've already moved on to like, let me build the best superstar child and great human. So that has been a great energy shift.
It's a hard balance because I learned so many lessons, but should I have had a kid sooner? Did I need to go through everything to be ready to be a parent? But insecurities. I know.
I think that's a great answer. Do you think being a dad has changed you a lot?

It made me now thirsty again because I'm like, you know, like, let's get success.

And I've like people like, why are you still trying to be famous?

Like, that is where I'm at. Like, I'm not going to go be a banker now.

I can't go be Camilla and be a lawyer.

Like, even though Kim's being a lawyer, like, I don't have that time for the baby bar. So, like, I am going to be a television star again though kim's being a lawyer like i don't have that times for the baby bar so like i am gonna be a television star again gonna get a show i'm gonna produce like that's why i'm now back in the game like i think producing for you oh no it's it's going down like yeah it's the the slate is strong so that's the only reason why like like why do you want this again it's like because now it's time like i had already i was living in santa barbara at my parents beach house i was done but now because i could live like that with just haiti and eat tacos and be chill but i want to give my son and future family members you know because he doesn't want to stop at one so it's like i want to build you know solid you know because i grew up with amazing life yeah it's too late to be a

dentist spencer pratt i just want to look to the camera and thank the daddy gang um oh my god for all the daddy gang promo code daddy and you get 20 off pratt daddy You know, I usually go to 15,

but since it's Daddy Gang,

and I'm Pratt Daddy,

that is funny.

I was Pratt Daddy before you were,

you know, you kind of hijacked the Daddy Gang.

But I was like,

and I used to literally claim

as Snapchat of the year as Pratt Daddy.

I'd be like, gang, gang.

We out here, gang, gang.

So I never saw that.

No, you didn't.

I know, you're too young.

You can't hijack something

you didn't know existed.

No, energetically.

I'm just kidding.

Honestly, thank you so much for coming on.

I'm not ending.

I'm going to, you're not.

Thank you so much for coming on Caller Daddy. I appreciate it all right we'll just cut i'm not

gonna stand up dude you're great that was great

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