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Speaker 1 Daddy Gang, I am so excited for today's guest. Are you ready? Sierra is here.
She is a Grammy award-winning triple platinum musician.

Speaker 1 She's also an entrepreneur, cover model, fashion icon, wife, mother. I mean, goddamn, is there anything that she doesn't do? I cannot wait to sit down with her and get to know her today.

Speaker 1 I remember being so obsessed with her music when I was younger, fully had a dance routine to one, two step. I still remember the choreography to this day.
Maybe I will have to show her my dance moves.

Speaker 1 She like fully leaves and walks out. She's like, you're so bad.

Speaker 1 No, but in all honesty, you guys, if you think about it, in her two

Speaker 1 decade-long career, Sierra has seen ups and downs, but

Speaker 1 our girls always come out on top. And daddy gang, we're getting into it today.
We are going to discuss toxic relationships, knowing your worth, leveling up in all aspects of life.

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Speaker 1 Sierra, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

Speaker 2 Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 I am so happy you're here. First of all, congrats on your pregnancy.
Thank you. Talk to me.

Speaker 2 How far along are you? Oh my gosh. I don't say how far along I am because I'm kind of funny and marking the time.
Okay. Because the most important wish is a healthy baby and desire.

Speaker 2 And I feel like when you mark time, it kind of puts pressure on the time marker. Totally.
But I am, I am, the bump is bumping. I'm feeling good.

Speaker 2 I'm feeling a little, I would say big and slow, but you know, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling grateful.

Speaker 1 So this is baby number four.

Speaker 2 Number four.

Speaker 1 Did you always want a big family?

Speaker 2 I did. I'm an only child.
So, I think because of that, like I used to always beg my mom and dad for a brother or sister, like, please, please, please, can you have another baby?

Speaker 2 And they would be like,

Speaker 2 It's not happening. Um, and then I kind of like being an only child as I got into my teens.
I'm like, this actually works out, it's all about me. I like it.

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Speaker 1 I am such a big fan and this year marks the 20th anniversary of your debut album Goodies. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 It is crazy to think that because it's like you've just done so much in your career, but to think back to those OG days, I'm wondering like, what does it make you feel when you know that people 20 years later are still so obsessed, so in love with the original hits?

Speaker 2 Oh my goodness, I feel grateful.

Speaker 2 It's actually this is the 19th year. The 20th year is coming up.

Speaker 1 Coming up, okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so, but knowing that I'm about to enter that year,

Speaker 2 I feel a heart full of gratitude. It makes me feel motivated, you know.

Speaker 2 It's so funny because it also just reminds you why you just keep on going like why you don't stop why you don't stop believing and you stay committed to your vision because when I was young I was like I spoke so much into like the things that I saw happening for myself and it's kind of crazy like I actually I had a goal sheet so my goal sheet I was um like 14 years old when I wrote it down before I got discovered I had three goals so the first goal was to get discovered okay and I wrote down how I was gonna get discovered so I'm gonna get talent shows and all this kind of stuff and then my second goal was once I got discovered to sell three to 40 million albums and I did five, which was a blessing.

Speaker 2 So check off one and check off two. And three was longevity.
So it was broad, but I was still like envisioning like long-term success.

Speaker 2 So to know that having a vision as a young girl, dreaming big, and it actually happens. Dude.
It's kind of crazy. Cause that's kind of the story of my life.

Speaker 2 Like I speak a lot of life into like a lot that happens to me.

Speaker 2 And I envision it before it happens. And it's crazy that we're sitting here almost 20 years in.

Speaker 1 It's also crazy to hear you at 14 putting that goal list together. I'm like, what the fuck was I doing at 14? Like picking my nose and like getting on Accutane.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh shit, like, damn, like, were you always that ambitious? And were your parents like go, Sierra? Or were they ever like, oh my God, slow down, like, chill.

Speaker 1 You don't need to be doing all this at this young of an age.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, my dad was, my mom and my dad were supportive. And I always say the one thing I can say I'm truly thankful for is that they allowed me to do what I wanted to do.
Like they didn't stop me.

Speaker 2 My mom was more,

Speaker 2 you know, she had more reservations than my dad did about the music industry because she watched all those VH1, like true story.

Speaker 2 I forget what they call the show. What was the show called? Do you remember?

Speaker 2 Yeah, something like

Speaker 1 True Hollywood Story.

Speaker 2 True Hollywood. Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 2 Everyone's good.

Speaker 2 Yeah, basically. It's like all the bad stuff.
So you watch those shows and you're like, fuck. Yeah, it's a little scary.
Like, is that what my daughter's getting into? My mom was thinking that way.

Speaker 2 So I think she was a little like, what's that music industry world about?

Speaker 2 But she still allowed me to do it. And she was super supportive.
My mom and my dad were, my dad would travel late nights to the studio with me, sleep on the sofa.

Speaker 2 while I'm recording in the booth, drive me back home, get ready for school. I mean, he was in it.
They both were supportive. So,

Speaker 2 you know, I'm glad they let me do that, right? I'm glad they allowed me that opportunity. And I will never forget that for my babies.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, I got to like let them pursue their dreams and what they're passionate about. So I took a, I've taken a note from that.

Speaker 1 A couple notes from from your parents.

Speaker 2 I love you. I love a couple.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You've done so much in your career. When you reflect on your career, and I know this is kind of hard to answer, but like, what is the most iconic moment in your mind of your career?

Speaker 2 Oh, my goodness. That's hard.
I know.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 I will say I think Goodies was very special for me because it put me on the map. My first single was number one for eight weeks long.

Speaker 2 We were breaking records and all this cool stuff then, which was really amazing.

Speaker 2 and it was kind of that moment of like where my identity was established, like right away, but it was clear on like who this girl was.

Speaker 2 I'd see her from Atlanta, Cece from Atlanta, um, but here to stay kind of energy, I feel.

Speaker 2 And I think even the imagery of things that we did, like the swimsuit with the jeans, and I wear my tall boxer boots. Um, I mean, I couldn't go anywhere without the high top.

Speaker 2 High tops are still my thing to this day,

Speaker 2 but the boxer boots were like my jam. I needed my wrestling boots, actually.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like it was something that, like, everyone will always remember. Like, it fashion-wise, music-wise, like

Speaker 1 as a woman, like, it was just so iconic. I remember when it came out.
I like still listen to it to this day. I remember making up also, like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 And then when One Two Step came out, and I was like making up the like most awkward dances, like with my friends thinking were like hot shit.

Speaker 1 Like, it wasn't hot, just to clarify, Sierra, it was not as hot as you.

Speaker 2 I know, but

Speaker 2 no,

Speaker 2 okay.

Speaker 1 But I just think about you at that young age, though. And I'm curious, like, if you can take me back a little bit to like, what was life like?

Speaker 1 You're coming out with music, you're rising to fame, and you're only 18 years old. Like, yeah, what was your life like at that time?

Speaker 2 So, I was always super, super focused, super driven, you know, very, very headstrong.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you know, I remember when I was like putting my vision together for the project, I'm like, I want to do like this, and I'm doing like that, and I'm gonna do this, and it's gonna be this.

Speaker 2 Like, and I was very clear on my vision, like, no one could tell me anything different. Um, and I was very opinionated at a young age.

Speaker 1 I relate in some ways to that of just being like so,

Speaker 1 yeah, like headstrong and like, I know what I'm doing. Like, I'm going to make it.
I'm going to make this happen.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I've experienced, though, you almost struggle to pause and be happy for yourself in a moment of like, oh shit, like I did this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you have a moment in your career at that young age where you were able to stop and be like, oh damn, like I made it. Like that one I made it moment.
Do you remember that?

Speaker 2 I think maybe a small blip of that was winning a Grammy. Oh, I just hope that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 That was a very special moment for me because I'd always dreamt of something as like that's like the Super Bowl for music, right? It's like it doesn't get any higher than that award.

Speaker 2 So for me, that was super special and significant. But to be honest with you, my world was going so fast.

Speaker 2 So as you can imagine, it literally was like the first 10 songs in my career, whether it was my song or collaboration, they were all top 10, top five, top three records or number one records.

Speaker 2 So I don't think I really allowed myself until until a little bit later to stop and like really realize where i was and i think you realize it even more when you have a challenge when you when you face adversity that's when you go oh you start to realize like okay exactly where things were

Speaker 2 um you know and then when you're determined you stay at it you fight through it you battle through your challenges and you keep it moving and you keep on staying on the track because that's all a part of it but my my true made it moment though i will say if i could pick a moment where i'm like oh like was definitely winning a Grammy.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
Damn.

Speaker 1 Damn. Yeah.
I think a lot of people are like, I hope that's my, oh, I made it moment where I win a Grammy.

Speaker 2 Here we go.

Speaker 1 Hearing you, obviously, like, you're such a savvy businesswoman.

Speaker 1 And I'm just sitting here, like, thinking of you because your career started so young, like, what was the hardest business lesson that you had to learn early on?

Speaker 2 Oh, you got to leave your emotions at the door.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, there's a time and a place for

Speaker 2 sincerity and being emotional, especially as a woman. So So early on I learned that, you know, I'm like in business, there's no gray.
It's only black and white, right?

Speaker 2 So if you can, you know, find a way to manage your emotions, you know, it's game-changing because you also realize that a lot of people in our industry don't really care for your emotions.

Speaker 2 A lot of people don't really care in general. It's like, what can you do for me in this moment? What can you do for me in general?

Speaker 2 That's kind of the mentality from a lot of people, a lot of my experiences. And then when you know the good ones, you hold on to them and you value them.

Speaker 2 But I think being a young woman, being determined,

Speaker 2 you know, and all that good stuff and having to like manage my stuff, like mind you, my parents weren't like, you know, navigating this world for me.

Speaker 2 I was a young girl, like hiring and firing and doing, I mean, like everything. So the emotions I had to learn early, take them.
leave them at the door. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you think that like on a personal level, like how did you stay grounded while you're getting like famous and pictures and everything?

Speaker 2 Like where did you find your center core I'll be honest with you I'm a spiritual girl right I think I think a lot of people know that but so for me my foundation was that I had faith I for me I know who God and Jesus is like that's important for me right everybody has their thing but I think that kind of helps to keep me like level set the people around me like to this day I still call my boy Jasper who I met when I was like 14 years old recording my first song like he was there in the booth with me so mind you that's 20 plus years of relationship my best friend and makeup artist who's been in my career since I was 16, my first professional shoot as a solo artist, actually my first professional shoot in general, she did that.

Speaker 2 So we're 20 plus years of friendship and she's my matron of honor.

Speaker 2 My team, I stay pretty consistent. I try to keep it like I'm a creature of habit.
I think consistency is key.

Speaker 2 But I do believe having people, having that consistent group of people and circle of people that I can trust and know they got my back, I think that was a big part that really helped me to stay like like level-headed and to be able to reset or have a place to go to because i always say i don't care how strong you are i don't care how capable you are you have to have somebody you can talk to like that is so important because the one thing that is very detrimental to

Speaker 2 can be detrimental to a person is when you bottle stuff in and you don't have a place to go. Yep.

Speaker 2 So for me, I think having a place to go has always been a great thing for me or someone I can trust and talk to.

Speaker 2 Even if it's just one one person, like everybody doesn't have to know your stuff, like, you know, but just one person, if you have one, you have enough for me personally.

Speaker 2 And then, of course, I pray and all that good stuff.

Speaker 1 I appreciate you sharing that because, again, obviously, most people that are going to listen, like, they can't relate to maybe some parts of your life, but that's some of the most relatable shit is like making sure that you have good people around you and actually people that you trust.

Speaker 1 And it doesn't have to be a lot of people, but I think if you don't have good people, you can lose your way because if you're, then you're potentially hanging out out with people that could sway you or you don't trust.

Speaker 1 And then you have trust issues. It's like making sure you know people are there for the right reasons, which sometimes you can't.
You have to just trust.

Speaker 2 100%.

Speaker 1 And sometimes you get screwed over.

Speaker 2 100%. You got to have people that you know are going to be honest with you

Speaker 2 that will hold you accountable. But it's also

Speaker 2 how do they hold themselves? Like how do they live their lives too, right? You can't have the wrong people feeding you, like you said. Like that's when it is.

Speaker 2 dangerous right and one thing I have learned is that when you're vulnerable that is the most crucial spot that you to listen to the right person.

Speaker 2 Because you can listen to the wrong person when you're vulnerable and they can send you completely left, right? Like that's the thing about life.

Speaker 2 It's like amazing how one decision can change your life for better or for worse.

Speaker 2 One decision, right? So who's feeding you when you're vulnerable? Like that's so important.

Speaker 1 You even see some celebrities and you can tell like the people that maybe don't have people with the right intentions in their camp because it's like, of course, like you guys at some point can be just reduced to like an object of like go here, go here, go here we're all making money off of you and at some point you have to decide like you're the one that keeps it all moving so you have to advocate for yourself in some capacity like keep those people that actually have you the right intentions and the right like they want the best for you and that's hard though that's hard it is it's hard but you know my thing is it's like there's a lot in the bible that talks about what good is it for a man to gain the world and lose his soul

Speaker 2 one of the my one of my greatest fears is to have a certain amount of success that's like the highest level but to not know who I am. And

Speaker 2 I'm very intentional about that. Like making sure I'm checking myself too.
Like I got to check myself sometimes too. And it's like, I want to be incredibly successful, but I don't want it that much.

Speaker 2 I'm like lost in the end. Right.
Imagine it all comes down.

Speaker 1 We pray we all get to 80, 90. Yeah.
And you're like, I did it for all what?

Speaker 2 I got no one around me.

Speaker 1 I got nothing that I don't even know who the hell I am. I'm glad I got the Grammys and the awards and the albums, but like, and who am I?

Speaker 2 i empty yeah that i'm so terrified of that and i see it happen so often in my industry like a lot of the greats that i respected and admired a lot of their stories

Speaker 2 Like it's not that beautiful story that you saw and why you fell in love with what they do and I'm just like man like that's not truly living to me like it can't my life my the success of my life can also be based off of the materialistic stuff and the awards and all those great things like that's that just can't be enough to fill my cup because honestly sometimes those things don't happen for you when you want them to happen anyways.

Speaker 2 Like there's still things that I wish I

Speaker 2 could do. I'm hoping to do.
And it may not happen. So I've got to make sure I have a level set and understanding of like, what is my definition of success?

Speaker 2 When you're so young, you look so far ahead.

Speaker 2 Like, and you should, you should look far ahead and you should dream big, but you're like sometimes so honed in on like, you know, all these things that you have so much time to get to.

Speaker 2 And it's like, you know, you got to have perspective, right? You got to like stay rooted within yourself and know who you are along the way because you can lose yourself.

Speaker 1 It's so true. And I appreciate you saying that because it's like, I feel like we right now, our culture is very like, go, go, go.
You want more. We want the coolest fashion.
We want money.

Speaker 1 We want success. We want the big cars and the houses and the cool things.
And if you don't have it, then you're a loser and you're not as cool. It's like there's just so much comparison right now.

Speaker 1 And especially for women, it's just like the aging aspect. And like, we're not good enough if we we don't get the, there's just so much.

Speaker 1 What is something that you learned in your 20s that you still carry with you to this day that you can share with us?

Speaker 2 Patience.

Speaker 2 I really, that's one of my favorite words. Well, actually, perspective is one of my favorite words, but also patience.
I would say patience is everything.

Speaker 2 You know, sometimes, like I say, you want things to happen at a certain marker for you and they may not happen until you're 50 or 60 years old. You just don't know, right?

Speaker 2 So to me, you got to have patience in the process. Like trust the timing that's meant for you.
Things are going to happen for you when they're supposed to.

Speaker 2 Even for me, I have to remind myself when stuff is ugly. I'm like, this is a part of life.
Yeah. Right.
This is, you're supposed to have a little bit of the ugly.

Speaker 2 Like I say, sometimes you have to go through the ugly to get to the pretty. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right. Even also you saying earlier, you were like.

Speaker 1 I didn't even stop in moments because like when everything's going well, you just keep moving.

Speaker 1 And the hardest moments are the moments that you actually are hip-checked within yourself to be like, whoa, first of all, so grateful for the good times. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Cause this shit's rough right now.

Speaker 1 And you then gain that perspective.

Speaker 1 I also think what you're saying about patience is really important too, especially with people in this young generation. I feel it of like the patience of like.

Speaker 1 the comparison is, oh my God, that person got that job and I didn't get the job or I didn't get the thing I wanted.

Speaker 1 And it's like, we're comparing ourselves to the person around us or our friends around us. Everything moves at a different pace.
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 1 And the reason you didn't get that job is for a reason because you're going to get another thing.

Speaker 2 I can tell you. It's hard.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And sometimes too, things look pretty on on the outside but you don't know what somebody's going through when you're like looking at what they have going you want what they have girl you don't know what they're going through no clue right so it's like you got to trust your own timing like you know it's it's it's so much better that way like do you know what's crazy for me is i remember like in the days of me you know being signed to traditional labels and I look I would look up and I watch other artists like I'm like I've been around a block for like a long time but she just coming and she like looking like she rolling two times faster than what I just like and i'm busting my butt like i'm like i know i work harder than she works like i know she ain't showing up how i show and it looks like the world is just going so taken off of them it's like you know what like that's for them like and and celebrate it too actually i think there's something really good about celebrating the success of others because when it's your time it's gonna happen for you things take time yeah right it's so true and it's also like like you said like if someone pops off so fast and it's so different like we don't know what they're going through maybe they're also really struggling.

Speaker 1 Like who the hell has popped off so fast and been like mental health is at 100.

Speaker 2 Like it's not a thing. It gets crazy.
And sometimes too, I think when you go so fast in the beginning, you don't have much to look forward to or you don't appreciate it.

Speaker 2 Like I appreciate every step of the way for myself because of what I've gone through.

Speaker 2 And I know for a fact I wouldn't have appreciated if I had everything given to me, the world given to me when I wanted it, you know, when I wanted it, basically.

Speaker 2 It's like me telling my kids like you can't have everything at you know can you imagine how crazy the world would be if we had everything we wanted when we wanted it like that would be nuts nuts we'd all be miserable crazy like crazy like we'd be running around like crazy

Speaker 2 people like i'm telling you everybody be lost like you know like losing it too so true so there's something to like you know the struggle there's something to adversity there's something to getting knocked down and getting back up there's something to like all of that good stuff right and just like trust the process Like,

Speaker 2 if it's meant for you, it's going to happen for you when it's supposed to, how it's supposed to, and it's going to be so great.

Speaker 1 It is kind of about the process of like letting things play out.

Speaker 1 Then you appreciate it more. You have more understanding of who you are as a human being.

Speaker 1 When you go through more shit, like you come out on top because you have learned experiences rather than just getting it all, you're like, oh, this was easy.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Speaking of relationships,

Speaker 1 I want to talk to you about love and relationships. Obviously, you're you're married to Russell Wilson, the Denver Broncos quarterback.
We love that for you.

Speaker 1 It's so cute to see, like, it seems like you guys have such a healthy and loving relationship.

Speaker 1 I see online people commenting, like, Sierra, like, where do I find my Russell? Like, where do I find like my couple goals?

Speaker 1 And obviously, in order to get to a healthy relationship, you got to go through things before you get to that point.

Speaker 1 And I want to talk to you a little bit about growing and learning and how you got to where you are now.

Speaker 1 Around the time that you met Russell, you were going through a really public and what looked like painful breakup.

Speaker 1 And I think about like leaving a relationship is so hard to make that decision, especially I'm assuming as you, when you have a child. How did you know for yourself it was time to leave?

Speaker 2 Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 When you know you're supposed to make a make a super defined decision in your life, you know it from like the head to your feet, from your feet to your head and your soul and your body, you know it and it's almost like your taste buds change right you have a taste bud for a certain kind of thing and then the taste buds just go

Speaker 2 you got to sometimes also look in the mirror and reflect on yourself too right like okay what are things that i could be doing differently in my life or you know what's a part of what i'm i'm looking for change but what does that mean so you have to kind of define everything about making changes in your life that are very critical and you know i've talked about before obviously when you have a child, it's very important to me.

Speaker 2 Like now it's no time to play around. Like the whole like experimentation kind of phase is out the doors.
Like I am now responsible for another life.

Speaker 2 Right. So what am I doing? Like, how am I thinking that through? So you know, and then when you're tired, you tired.
You tired.

Speaker 2 You know, and so we get tired and we don't want to be tired all the time. Like, you know, I'm like, I want to, I want joy.
I want to make sure my cup is full. Like, how am I living my life?

Speaker 2 Like, I always say, don't let nobody waste your time.

Speaker 2 Like, that's one thing. Like, we talk about like, you know, you know, life and the trajectory of life and what, you know, it's like, I don't care if it's relationship or friendship.

Speaker 2 business, whatever it is, like don't let it waste your time. It's just not worth it.
Yeah. Right.
So, yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, those are, those are things that come to my mind, how I process when I'm making a pivotal, when it, there's a pivotal moment in my life and in

Speaker 2 any aspect of my life.

Speaker 1 When you hear people talk about it, it does seem like, oh, that's so simple.

Speaker 1 But when you're in it, it is like, it's really hard to collect yourself when you're trying to leave something and you're like, you're so used to something. Yeah.
Even if it's toxic.

Speaker 1 Like, I have women right into me, Sierra, that are like, it... The fear of being alone sometimes is worse than the fear of staying in something toxic.

Speaker 2 And I wonder like what advice you have because the thing is, is that what you do learn is toxicity will, it can kill you. like toxicity putting toxic things into your body is not good

Speaker 2 It's not like so I think it's like we have to be real with ourselves, right? It's like what do you want out of life for yourself?

Speaker 2 You have to be a little selfish in your thought process and whatever's around you needs to align with that right like you know, that's important like but that whole like that toxic like is like

Speaker 2 There's nothing fun about, you know, being confused all all the time or someone taking you on like the ring around. Like that's not, that's not fun.
It's not fun.

Speaker 1 And I feel like from my personal experience, like I've been in some toxic relationships where

Speaker 1 it almost you can normalize it.

Speaker 1 Like when you're in it for long enough, and I like that you spoke about it, like there is a moment, and I pray for a lot of women listening, like you catch that moment before it gets really detrimental to your own health.

Speaker 1 But like there's that moment you know, but for a while you can like have full blinders on and just not see it because it becomes so normalized.

Speaker 1 I'm wondering like when you were younger, like what is something that you now recognize is a red flag, but at the time you would either like ignore or maybe like turn away from?

Speaker 2 Well, yes, like how is a person talking to you? How do they treat others?

Speaker 2 How do they what you know you do ignore a lot of stuff like when you just want to see what you want to see but again when you start thinking holistically it's like you know no one's going to be perfect but you do want the one that's perfect for you.

Speaker 2 Like, and how many boxes can they check off for you that fits like what your desire is? And it should be both ways, right? Me and Russ, we always talk about being equally yoked.

Speaker 2 Like for us from day one, like honestly, I think it was a, you know, healthy place. And I thank God because we always saw, we kind of saw a lot of things the same way.

Speaker 2 So I think that's more than half the battle when you're kind of aligned. Yes, it's definitely like how someone talks to you.

Speaker 2 What's their track record?

Speaker 2 Girl, what's the track record? And sometimes too, like, listen, you know, you don't, again, you see things how you see them. Like sometimes you do overlook things because of your perspective.

Speaker 2 And again, it's like you're trying to see things like the glass half-full, like you're trying to see it from a positive lens. But again, like, what's a person doing?

Speaker 2 I think more than anything, it's like they can tell you everything. A person can be like, oh, I've changed and I'm doing that.

Speaker 2 And I've heard those stories before.

Speaker 2 I've heard that song before.

Speaker 2 But what are they doing?

Speaker 2 Right. And I think sometimes you tend to put the words before the actions.

Speaker 2 Right. You listen, you listen more versus like just watching.
Like, how are they showing up or not showing up? Like, and then sometimes you don't realize like they're telling you,

Speaker 2 it's like they're telling you the same thing in a different way.

Speaker 2 It's like, well, wait a minute. What you told me last time, you told me the same thing again, and you're doing the same thing again.
So like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. And yeah.

Speaker 1 And I love what you said about you and Russell. It's like, we're very similar in the way that we think and what we like and what we believe in.
And like, of course, everyone's different.

Speaker 1 But when you find yourself trying to make something work so hard and you're the one that's constantly

Speaker 1 forgiving or coming back.

Speaker 1 Full stop.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Red flag. Red flag.
Red flag. Yeah, for sure.
It's like, it takes two. Yeah.
You know, and like, how are you showing up? Like, you ain't showing up. So I ain't showing up either.
I'm actually going.

Speaker 2 I'm out. Like, yeah, I ain't showing up and I'm cool.
Like, you ain't going to exhaust me to the point. Because honestly, you can lose yourself in those moments.

Speaker 2 Like, like I said, it's one of my greatest fears. And I've been there before.
I'm looking at someone. I'm like, you ain't going to waste my life.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry. Like, that's not an option.
Like, it's so scary.

Speaker 2 It is scary. It is scary.
But, you know, you got to like put your foot down for what you want and what you deserve.

Speaker 1 All All the girlies are taking notes right now.

Speaker 2 They're like, fuck yes, Yara. They're like, yes.

Speaker 2 Don't be afraid.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, you're right. Don't be afraid of like the best part is leaving.
The best part is getting out. The best part is finding yourself without that person.

Speaker 1 And obviously you now are in such a healthy relationship, it looks. And I'm so happy for you.
Just like, even when you talk about him, I can just tell, like,

Speaker 1 yeah, like you're happy.

Speaker 1 And so I also wonder, like, when you go into a healthy relationship, I think sometimes it's so annoying but like sometimes we can't help but bring our baggage and our habits from our past relationships that we've had in our life.

Speaker 1 Like was there anything that you had to unlearn essentially when you got into your relationship with Russell?

Speaker 2 Leave it at the door. Leave it at the door.
That I think that's so important for yourself and your own sanity, but it's also not fair to your partner to bring old baggage that is from the past.

Speaker 2 Because then I think you don't give yourself an opportunity to fully be in that love love and be engulfed in that love and to create something fresh for yourself.

Speaker 2 Before Russ came into my life, like I didn't think he was going to come into my life that fast, to be honest with you.

Speaker 2 But before he came into my life,

Speaker 2 the place that I was at mentally when I decided like, you know,

Speaker 2 I'm desiring something different and I was clear on like, I was very intentional in that phase of my life. And obviously you have my baby in my life, my firstborn,

Speaker 2 you know, I took that moment for myself. Because I think sometimes too, like, if we go back to back,

Speaker 2 you know, in relationships, you also aren't having a chance to like make peace with yourself and to really like tap into you in a way that you maybe don't know you need to, but you need to sometimes pause, like, take a break and just like love on yourself, reset, get clarity.

Speaker 2 You know, the past is the past. Where are you trying to, where do you want to, and really true to look ahead, like, and be clear and intentional with that.

Speaker 2 So, I think I will say the moment before russ came into my life i said i thought i was going to be single for like four years at least i was like i'm not doing this no i'm because i'm tired like i'm like it's

Speaker 2 what's going on and i'm also i'm it's self-reflecting it's everything going on right so i had like to go through that phase and that process and that journey um you know and so In that moment, when you're resetting, the things that are of the past are they're starting to become of the past to you, right?

Speaker 2 So it's like you're already clearing up your mind just in general for yourself like not even for someone to come into my life but just me doing this self-cleanse thing i need to do with myself like

Speaker 2 get really find myself like who am i like what's this woman want to feel like when she walks throughout the world like what does she talk like what does she think like like i mean it's all these things that are about myself i'm like this is what i need for me right and then of course like who's gonna be in her life like i'm thinking about these things and i'm like i mean my mind is as vivid as it can be.

Speaker 2 I'm like, he's gonna be a man of God, like, he's gonna love kids because I have a child now. I'm like, he's gonna love to like travel the world.

Speaker 2 Like, I mean, all these things, like, I'm envisioning it so much that I can taste. So, you talk about those taste buds.

Speaker 2 That taste bud starts to have a palate that's all, it's like fit for all that stuff.

Speaker 2 So, I'm thinking that way, you know, already. Yeah, so when I see it, I know it.

Speaker 2 And when I saw my honey, my husband, like, I've never seen anything like that. Yeah, Never.

Speaker 2 Not, I haven't talked to anyone like that. Like, I haven't felt anything like that, but I feel everything that I see.
Like, I'm almost gonna cry. My hormones.
But maybe it's not my hormones, but

Speaker 2 I could like see, like, it was exactly what I was saying right in front of me. Like, it's crazy.
Oh, my God. Like, crazy.

Speaker 1 How, when, when did you meet him? And, like, what was the situation? How did you meet?

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Speaker 1 When did you meet him? Like, what was the situation? How did you meet?

Speaker 2 We met, when did we meet? What year was this? 20. Oh, gosh.
2015. Okay.
2015. Okay.

Speaker 1 Where were you?

Speaker 2 We were actually in California. And the crazy thing is we started talking early at first.

Speaker 2 We were chatting a little bit. And then we had our first in-person meeting.

Speaker 2 So before we met in person, we were chatting a little bit. And when he met in person, it was the craziest thing because I was trying to make sure I'm doing this right.

Speaker 2 Because mind you, I hadn't met a guy at this point. I hadn't talked to a guy or anything at this point.
So I'm like, this is like, you know, it's a guy in general.

Speaker 2 And then, and he always was like, well, because I'm like, Well, when we were meeting, I'm like, I also was looking at it from a friendship perspective, you know,

Speaker 2 I'm just saying, like, you know, the buildup before you get there. He was like, What friendship? He's like, I'm not looking for no friend, you know.
So, we joke about that.

Speaker 2 I love it because I want to be like, really, like, best friend, like,

Speaker 2 fuck out of here, yeah. What are you talking about? I mean, but he was cute, though, you know,

Speaker 2 you know, but you know, we're gonna start, we're gonna go on phases kind of thing, right? But when we met in person,

Speaker 2 um,

Speaker 2 the first time in person we talked um was actually at my place oh and you know the it was kind of the not kind of but it it was the best thing for the both of us we felt because even though we were you know meeting as friends and all that stuff email

Speaker 1 it's not a deal

Speaker 2 he my son was there and my dad was there So see, the friendship perspective.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, you really were like, meet my, he's probably like, oh man, I'm meeting the dad.

Speaker 2 You're like, no, you're just a homie. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We actually talked about it. And, you know, what did he say to me? He was like, well, I'm going to have to meet him anyways.

Speaker 2 Like, Wes was very, like, I love it. Confident.
Very. So, I'm like, you know, so we meet.
And again, that's not, that's not like a traditional way. I'm not telling someone to do that.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But because it's he and I, you know, you're public figures in our world.

Speaker 2 Unfortunately, oftentimes I think if you jump, you put the cart before the horse before you are officially together, the world puts this pressure on you.

Speaker 2 And this, it's just become something else that it kind of like gets in the way of what, you know, the true, like the true thing is that's there could be.

Speaker 2 So we just were being private, basically. We were going to go out to eat dinner and then we kind of like, we just let's keep it in.

Speaker 1 What did you guys do?

Speaker 2 So we just talked. And we were supposed to have dinner.

Speaker 2 Food was like, belly was like. content.
Even though it was hungry, it was content. Like, you know, because we were like talking and talking and talking.
And

Speaker 2 it was crazy. Everything that we talked about, like we were aligned on.
Like, and I'm not going to lie to you. It was one point in time we were talking and he was talking to me.

Speaker 2 And I wasn't hearing nothing he was saying because I was like, he's so beautiful. Like, I'm looking at him.
I'm like, he is like gorgeous. Like, because I didn't, like, look, I didn't look him up.

Speaker 2 I didn't want to know anything about like him before we met. Right.
So. I'm just like, wow.
Yeah, no, I was. I was literally just sitting there.
Like, he's talking.

Speaker 2 I'm like, like, oh, wait, but just runs. Just runs.
Just runs. But the words are going like this over my head.
And so, yes.

Speaker 1 He's like, do you agree? You're like, uh-huh.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 1 What you say is that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I love that for sure. I mean, I'm hearing what he's saying.
I'm in the conversation, but I can't remember all that we were saying. You know, so looking great.
It was. So we just sat and talked.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I knew, and I said this the other day,

Speaker 2 when I was talking to him, I was like, this is something different.

Speaker 2 I knew

Speaker 2 that I'd never felt what I felt in that moment. I knew this was a different man that I was talking to than,

Speaker 2 you know, I just knew, like, I just, it was different. Like, so much to the point that I called Yoli, my best friend.
I called her after and I said, Yoli, I was like, I don't want to jinx anything.

Speaker 2 I was like, but I think he's, and she goes, the one. And I go, yes.
Like, I, and I've never said that in my life.

Speaker 2 Never said that in my life.

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 1 It was meant to be.

Speaker 2 Without a doubt.

Speaker 2 Without a doubt.

Speaker 1 What was it about him that really impressed you that day?

Speaker 2 It was, you know what? His conversation, how he talked about life. It's also feeling too.
You know, it's kind of hard to put in words, but I know what I'm talking to.

Speaker 2 Like I said, those taste buds are activated. Like I'm talking to like every sense, everything that I had on the palate was like.
stim it was stimulated. It was like clear.
Like,

Speaker 2 you know, and so I just knew, like, even how he talked to my dad, you know, and my son was like moving around. And at some point in time, like, there, he's holding him.

Speaker 2 Like, there was actually this funny thing.

Speaker 2 Y'all think we ever told me about this, but where there's this chair that's like in my living, in my um kitchen, and the chair is like about to fall over, and future is literally my son is sitting, he's right there, and literally, Russ like slides, and the socks catches the chair.

Speaker 2 It honestly, no, it's this may sound dramatic, but no lie, he slides over, catches the chair. And I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Superman. We got a Superman in the bed.

Speaker 2 No, but you know.

Speaker 2 You were literally sitting there like, no, it was just everything. No, it wasn't.
Everything about

Speaker 2 everything. Like, there wasn't one thing that wasn't

Speaker 2 something.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I know what you're saying too.

Speaker 1 And I think it's important because obviously, like you said, which I love that you're explaining, after a breakup of what you know you don't want anymore, and you have that moment within yourself, you quickly align of like, whoa, I gotta get my shit together.

Speaker 1 Like, I didn't like how I felt. I didn't like this, this, this, this, or I liked this and I wanna bring this into my next relationship, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 But then when you meet that person, especially when you've had maybe the not like the healthiest of relationships before,

Speaker 1 it's a feeling of like, you still have those like giddy butterflies. Like we said, like you're drooling in the corner.

Speaker 1 But it's, you, there's a sense of like calmness. And I remember I felt it with my fiancé because I, it was like

Speaker 1 he is kept, it keeps me on my toes, and it's so exciting, but it's like safe and calm, and I'm not insecure, and I'm not like there's still that feeling of like, oh, you want to impress them and have fun, but it's a different level of connection where you feel like you've known them for a long time.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It is like there's something there that you're like, whoa, like your soul's almost, this is like corny, but like it's like almost like you knew you were supposed to meet. No, 100%.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, no, no. 100%.
Like, because that's what I, and also too, like, and I think I've said this, but just in case, it's like literally the conversation we're having is so aligned.

Speaker 2 Like, you're going back and forth, and you're like, you're going, like, yes, like, everything you're saying is like a fiery kind of feeling to it because you're like almost talking to yourself a little bit.

Speaker 2 Yes. Right.

Speaker 2 But there's something you made me think about. Hold on, wait, let me see.
Oh, with the giddy thing, right?

Speaker 2 What's so amazing, and I feel so blessed because now we are in year seven of marriage, eight years of being together.

Speaker 2 12 babies on the way. Love it.

Speaker 2 Is that I still get the giddy feeling. I think it's so important.
We always talk about that, right?

Speaker 2 Is that you still want to, like Russ always says, you know, I believe his dad would say to him like, you got to always compete.

Speaker 2 Or it's kind of one of his things that he came up with, but you got to always compete.

Speaker 2 So it is that thing where it's like, even though you do build a comfort over time, you still want to like, you know, you still want to make sure you keep it like cute. You want to keep it sexy.

Speaker 2 You want to keep it spicy. You want to keep it fun.

Speaker 2 Like we still do we do date nights every friday oh because in football that's the off day uh-huh so we do date nights every friday we stay committed to that and we like look forward it's something i look forward to and the fires they burn like you know and you still feel like dating all over the other night we played uno at dinner and i was like and i said babe can we take the uno cards and he was like yeah we could you know but and he played uno but there was the little things like and i was like i had so much i literally told him the next morning i'm like i had so much fun like so i think it's like you know it's it's all that you know it's like you know do you do you have someone in your life that's also down to try new things with you like do they accept you at your lowest of your low points right like everything is not perfect yeah like i've had moments where i look up you know and i'm going through a challenging time and he's the one person the only person i can look to in that moment and he has always has the right words to say like you know all those things are important too like how does a person speak to you when you're at your low right in your relationship because that's key like it's really you too like so true When it's all said and done, like, it's you too, and you have your kids, of course, too.

Speaker 2 But, like, it's the two of you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Even hearing you, too, like, when he came over, it wasn't just you.
Like, you had a son. Like, you have the son.

Speaker 1 You're like, you're bringing someone into your life that now is not just going to be a relationship with yourself. You need to also have a relationship with my son.

Speaker 1 Like, how did he take on being a stepfather?

Speaker 2 He jumped right in. Changing the diapers right away.

Speaker 2 No hesitation. He's an amazing father.
Like, watching him with all of our kids is like, it is one of the sweetest things. It's one of the sexiest things, to be honest with you.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying, ladies, when the man jumps in and changes the diapers and he be pulling up to the teacher-parent conferences, and he be, you know,

Speaker 2 it's like, ooh, he surprised Cece at the dentist the other day, and she was like, Daddy, and I was like, Daddy, I would say the same thing to you.

Speaker 2 Like, daddy at the dentist, yeah, I'm like, okay,

Speaker 2 but it is, that's what you want. Like you,

Speaker 2 that feels good, you know? It's like

Speaker 2 it feels, it feels good when, you know, there's something about a man turning on that part of them. Like, you know, they're manning for you.

Speaker 2 They're being a man for you, but they're also being a man for your family.

Speaker 2 Like, there's no better feeling than knowing that when we all look up and if we look at him, like, he's got us. Like, I know he's going to wrap his arms around me and my babies fully.

Speaker 2 Like, there's no depth that he won't go to, go, you know, go to for us or to make sure things are like

Speaker 2 right for us. Like that, that it's kind of hard to put that in words, but that feels good.

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We gotta know, Sierra, what? What is your favorite part about being married to a professional athlete?

Speaker 2 Oh, gosh.

Speaker 2 You know what's crazy? I love football before he came into my life. Like, I'm a tomboy so I watched the game with my my dad growing up

Speaker 2 but you know I mean I think I say that because I think that you really enjoy I really enjoy the journey with him I enjoy the highs and the lows with him I enjoy his competitive nature like I really respect it like one thing about Russ is like when it comes to football he is so dedicated to football it's like football and family football family like I mean he's really dedicated to his game And I really admire that.

Speaker 2 So, obviously, doing what I do, I feel like I get so much of a motivational dose like every day on his journey and what I do. Like, I get really inspired.
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Speaker 2 you know, you would think that I'm in the huddle with him when he's in the huddle.

Speaker 2 You wouldn't think that because like I'm in this thing.

Speaker 2 But we have so much fun. Like, sports, you know, sports are such a, it's such a powerful force.
Music is a powerful force. So it's such a blessing to have sports and music in our household.

Speaker 2 But I do enjoy

Speaker 2 the joy that we get, even like I say, the highs and the lows, getting ready for each Sunday, or if it's a Monday night or a Thursday night,

Speaker 2 the drum up in our household with the kids, like also being excited and being able, it's just a whole like, it's a blessing.

Speaker 1 I was about to say, like, tell us what's the vibe of the house on game day? Like, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 Okay, game day, okay. So, Russ is a creature of habit.

Speaker 2 Okay, so he's like very consistent. So it's very routine.

Speaker 2 You know, he does his body work, his treatment work, and all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 And he's in his peace then. And typically when he does it, I'm with him.
So mommy's like, okay, kids, like, I'll be right back.

Speaker 2 but I got to be there like in that Zen moment.

Speaker 2 And then he goes through his motion to prepare for the game. And then the kids are definitely upstairs running around like chaos, turned stuff, excited, you know.

Speaker 2 It's not that serious for them at this age.

Speaker 2 Although I will say future is getting more serious. He's also into sports too.
So he can feel a little bit of the journey too. Sienna's like, go daddy.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And Wynn's like, go go daddy.
I mean, this is just different levels, right?

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 we have that flow. And then he gets ready.

Speaker 2 He gets ready to roll out the door. We do prayer every time before our game as a family.
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Speaker 2 We ride to the car. We jam out.
I'm DJ Mama. The kids are DJs too.
They all want to pick their own songs. It's all the good energy rolling up to the stadium.
And

Speaker 2 then we roll into the suite. And then, you know, when you sit down, I'm not going to lie to you guys, especially being pregnant, the emotional roller coaster is like,

Speaker 2 oh, Lord. I'd be talking to myself.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's just a journey. I'm like, geez, heart stop pumping so fast sometimes.
Like, it's crazy. I love it, though.
It's crazy because you feel, like I said, I'm in the huddle too.

Speaker 2 I'm out there, like,

Speaker 2 you know, it's not

Speaker 2 safe. You know,

Speaker 2 I'm wanting, you know, always the best outcome.

Speaker 2 So, um, it's so good, but it's fun. And then after the game, we eat dinner together, you know,

Speaker 2 or whatnot. And it's, but it's pretty chill.
It's, it's exciting, but it's pretty chill, right? Because it's super, you know, Russ is really serious about what he does.

Speaker 2 And I think it's important that we respect that journey, that process for him, you know, on a daily basis.

Speaker 2 So we try to make sure we kind of, you know, we, we, it's a combination combination of all that stuff.

Speaker 2 I love it. But it's fun.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking of you saying you're also in the car with your babies. I'm like, do you play them your music? Do they know moms?

Speaker 2 Okay, when it's new. Okay.
I don't like playing my music back to me. I just feel like

Speaker 2 that's kind of weird sometimes. Do you think I'm not going to lie to you? Don't tell me.

Speaker 2 When I have a song that I really love,

Speaker 2 I might listen to myself a little bit, you know, just a little bit.

Speaker 2 You know, and my kids, they may pick my songs. Like when I put up level up, they love that song.

Speaker 2 I'm honestly, I'm not saying because it's my record, but I really love my song, How We Roll. That's my jam.
And I ain't gonna lie, I put it on the other day and played it back about seven times.

Speaker 2 I'm like, this song just feels so good.

Speaker 1 Like, it's me the, you know, also the same with like Loki and BRB. I was like, oh,

Speaker 2 like,

Speaker 1 it's, it's, it's... a vibe.
And I wonder if Russell plays it in the car for the kids while you're not there. He's like, guys, this is mommy.

Speaker 2 He will. You know, he's really big on like, guys, you got to listen to mommy's music.
He will make sure they know my music or hear it and listen to it.

Speaker 2 But he'll definitely make sure the kids like, you know, support mommy, which is sweet. Like, they, I think one day it was like the kids were having a pick between one song and the other.

Speaker 2 I don't even know what the songs were, but one of them was mine and one wasn't. And he was like, you better pick your mom's song.

Speaker 2 You know, so like, let's keep it real.

Speaker 1 We know who we support in this family.

Speaker 2 Let's make sure we, you know. I love it.

Speaker 1 Yes. It's really cute to eat because I'm sitting here and I'm like, you've won a Grammy.
He's won a Super Bowl. Like, you guys are the ultimate power couple.

Speaker 1 And I think a lot of people look at you guys and envy you, obviously. And it's like, whoa, their life is so amazing.

Speaker 1 Like, when you do go through the hard moments, like, how do you guys level set each other? Like, what is the process of keeping each other grounded and keeping each other like?

Speaker 2 Being able to be honest and communicate, I think, has been game-changing for us.

Speaker 2 And even when it's ugly. Sometimes it's got to get a little ugly.
Like I said, get a little ugly before you get to the pretty.

Speaker 2 But I just think some, like, there's nothing better for me than knowing, like, I was able to say what I felt fully and he heard me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And don't you like it too much personally?

Speaker 1 It's different in that type of relationship where you know like you're both trying to come back together and like you set the same goal. Like no one's winning.

Speaker 1 No, we actually just have to hear each other understand it. Where in other relationships I've had, it's like, oh, this is just an ego thing.

Speaker 1 Like I'm never going to win because you aren't even listening to what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 When you say the word toxic, it kind of rings a certain way for me because, like I said to you earlier, I'm like, toxic things can do damage to you, can be harmful to you.

Speaker 2 So the glorifying of things that are harmful to you will never be cool to me. Never be cool.
Like never be fly, never be the way of, you know,

Speaker 2 it's just, that's just not it to me personally.

Speaker 1 So you have this great relationship now, knowing the relationships you've had in the past of like, sometimes you got to go through the bad to get to the good, like we said.

Speaker 1 So it is exciting for, I think, for women listening of like, oh, like even if you're in the trenches right now listening to this and you're not in a healthy relationship or you're not feeling good about yourself or it's an abusive situation whatever you're in like you can get out yes and you can find happiness and you can find what you deserve but again patience like give yourself some grace it can't happen overnight 100 but it is nice to hear from you of like it can happen it can happen baby let's talk about your music though because like i said we were all jamming to it in the office day we were just like laughing we were blasting it we're like how creepy if she like rolls up and we're just like screaming your music but now i'm like i think you would have liked it it would have been kind of fun i might jump in and dance with you hey

Speaker 2 you're ep cc i need to understand yeah who is cece who is sierra talk to you got the two so cece and sierra are connected it's not an alter ego okay but there is an energy that comes out when you say cece like i turn my lip up a little bit she get a little stank with it i'm from atlanta so you know there's a lot of soul in what we do there and um you know when i came up it was obviously my nickname but people would be like you know when they say go CC, go, CC, go, go, CC, go, CC.

Speaker 2 Like, there's an energy that comes with that. There's a feeling that comes with that.

Speaker 2 And it's, you know, it's, I would say, I just, I really, on this project, I wanted to make sure I had those core elements of what that is because that's something special for me from a music standpoint.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Like when you say go CC, when you say go CCC, go CC, go, like there's something about that that's just like a little, it's a little saucy, you know? And so,

Speaker 2 you know, that, that's kind of it.

Speaker 2 It's not an alter ego though yeah it's just like a little bit more of like a little more violence yeah like a little sassy vibe she got a little more sassy to her see si era you know if you talk to me and i'm in my like sierra mode um

Speaker 2 and it depends on the situation i try to like you know like michelle say when they go low you go high yep you know that kind of thing cece might she might snap back a little bit she might bite back a little bit just a little bit i love it i love a little more you know what do do you want people to like feel when they're listening to this music?

Speaker 1 Like, is there a specific place you envision people listening to it? What's the vibe?

Speaker 2 I feel like this music on this project is kind of like that. perfect house party energy

Speaker 2 where you can like kick back if you want to it's feel good it's a little it's a it's a sexy record but it's also if you want to like chill back people if you want to roll up roll up on the skates or roll up literally if you want to you know put toast up to it if you want to.

Speaker 2 My song, Two in Love, it's a slower record. That's a moment where I'm trying to remember.
It was like one night Russ and I had a little bit of a disagreement.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, gosh, like the truth is, I'm just two in love, you know.

Speaker 1 No, when I was listening to it, I was like, oh my gosh, like this is like really

Speaker 2 all about how in love we are.

Speaker 1 And I love it.

Speaker 2 It's so sweet. It's so sweet.
Well, you know, it's that feeling on that record where it's like, you're upset. Like, you know, I watched this TikTok or something someone someone was doing, and

Speaker 2 they were like mad at each other. It's like, this is how couples do when you're mad, like, and but you still love each other.

Speaker 2 And like, you slam the car, you let them in the car, but you slam the door hard, or you like, gotta give them food, but you open the fridge with attitude, and you close the fridge with attitude, like that kind of energy.

Speaker 2 So, like, on two in love, I'm like,

Speaker 2 like, you, he always would put his arms around me a certain way, and like, if he doesn't do it, I'm like, like, with someone we're sleeping, I'm like, I feel that.

Speaker 2 Like, but I mean, I want to be mad too, but I want you to put your arm on me. like

Speaker 1 you know I'm like it's like all those kind of feelings so before I put this project out it's exactly like what I wanted it to be and there's no better feeling than that yeah you now being able to do things on your own and figure out what you want to continue to sound like as your career continues to grow and expand yeah um it's just truly was such an honor sitting with you today because like you are such an accomplished woman and and sitting with you and getting any of the wisdom we can get from you today Sierra I know I'm like, I'm taking it in note.

Speaker 1 I'm like, everyone's writing notes. Like, you're just such an inspiration.
And it's really surreal for me to sit down with you today because I'm such a fan. And thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 And congrats on your baby. Thank you.
So happy you're expanding the family. Maybe we'll see a number five at one point.

Speaker 2 You sound like Russ. Like, don't get crazy now.
Okay. Let's just go one baby at a 10.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Thank you.
I had so much fun. And congratulations to you.
You were like killing it. Like, I think there was this new article about you and Forbes.
And,

Speaker 2 you know, I mean, keep on doing what you're doing. You're obviously doing,

Speaker 2 you're obviously giving a platform for women. You've created a platform for women that is very important and critical.
And your personality is incredible. So keep on shining your light.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Cheers. Woo! Woo!

Speaker 2 We did it. Collar daddy.
Woo!

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