Ayesha Curry: Marriage, Motherhood & My Identity

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Speaker 1 Aisha Curry, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you for having me.
I am so excited to meet you. How are you doing today?

Speaker 2 I'm hanging in there right now. I'm really nervous to be here.
Wait, why? I'm so excited. Oh my God, Aisha.
Yeah, so I'm just grateful. I'm excited.

Speaker 2 Hoping I don't get in trouble for the things that I say.

Speaker 1 I feel like we're going to have good girl talk.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I'm not going to put it.

Speaker 1 You're not in the hot seat.

Speaker 2 Like, you'd be. I know.
I know.

Speaker 1 Is it good that I'm catching you in the offseason?

Speaker 2 Or?

Speaker 1 Okay, good. That's great.
So you're more chill during the offseason.

Speaker 2 Super chill. Yeah.
I mean, it's still chaotic. It's always chaotic, but we're like learning to live in that.

Speaker 1 What do you guys usually do during this time of year? Are you traveling? Are you staying at home?

Speaker 2 Well, right now,

Speaker 2 because it's July, it's always the most chaotic of the year, actually, of the whole calendar year, because three of our kids' birthdays are in July.

Speaker 2 Our anniversary is at the end of July. And it's like, if you do, if you play well, like for my husband, if you play well, you play until June.

Speaker 1 And he usually plays well.

Speaker 2 He usually plays well. This year, we had a little bit more time, which was nice, but usually it's just two months and that's it.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 four kids. Did you always knew you wanted a a big family?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 didn't want kids. I, I didn't want to get married.
I thought I was going to be career girl and that's it. And I had my eyes set on my goals.

Speaker 2 And I was never the little girl that like dreamt about the wedding dress and all of that. And then it happened so early in my life.

Speaker 2 So it's like, it's one of those things like you don't, you don't know what you, you don't know what you want.

Speaker 1 Well, it's so interesting you say that because I want to talk a lot about that today because I relate to you in that way. Like I really, really never thought I was going to get married.

Speaker 1 I'm like, there is actually no way that's ever going to happen. And then it happens and you're like, maybe I didn't know myself that well.
And it's like, no, you knew yourself when you were young.

Speaker 1 And then life happens and then you grow up and then you have different wants and needs. And that's okay to change your mind.
Yes. But it's still shocking.

Speaker 2 It's still shocking. Okay, wait.

Speaker 1 Quickly back to parenting. I'm going to ask you a couple of random like parenting manual questions.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 What is the time one of your kids embarrassed you in public?

Speaker 2 My daughter, Ryan,

Speaker 2 we were in a very public place. I'm trying to remember where I'm blanking because I think this just like overshadowed the whole thing.
But she yelled at like, Mommy, do you have weaves?

Speaker 2 Is that a weaves?

Speaker 2 Like with an S.

Speaker 2 Do you have weaves in your hair?

Speaker 2 And I'm like,

Speaker 2 yes.

Speaker 2 You're like, Ryan, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 Mommy loves you.

Speaker 1 Kids will humble you every fucking day.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay, what's a bribe you used recently to get your kids to do something?

Speaker 2 Oh, I paid my daughter, my 13-year-old Riley, and my niece Ava. I paid them $20 to clean up the kitchen and the living room.

Speaker 2 Back in my day, I wouldn't have had that opportunity. I would have just had to do it.

Speaker 1 Okay. What is the weirdest thing you found in your kid's backpack or pocket?

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I just found, okay, I found my nipple covers in my son's pocket.

Speaker 2 He must have found my purse or on the counter.

Speaker 1 And he's like, you can always tell like what he's.

Speaker 2 And then he walked in and he goes, mommy, do you know what's under here? And I had forgotten that fast that he had put put them in his pocket. He's like, Do you know what's under here?

Speaker 2 And I'm like, No, Canon, what are you doing? And he goes, I said, Take them off. And he's just like smiling ear to ear.
He thinks it's hysterical. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 That is, that is actually, though, hysterical.

Speaker 2 You're going to leave the room.

Speaker 1 Like, this is not hot visit.

Speaker 2 You don't want to laugh too hard because then they'll just keep doing it. He was like,

Speaker 1 Steph is like, I am

Speaker 2 leaving. You're like mortified.
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Speaker 1 Okay, can we talk about, so you graduated high school early to move to LA to start your acting career. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tell me about like coming out to LA.

Speaker 1 What early ambitions did you have for yourself? And like, what did you want?

Speaker 2 It's interesting because I, I don't ever, I think, get the opportunity to kind of talk about my life before my life now. And so, yeah, I graduated high school a year early.

Speaker 2 At the time, I was living in north carolina

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 i'd been in the industry since i was three years old i was always working i commercial print like doing tv stuff always so other kids were at like soccer

Speaker 2 doing the extra curriculars and i was on a set working And so it was second nature for me. And quite honestly, growing up, the only thing that I thought I could do.

Speaker 2 And so

Speaker 2 I would enter all of these competitions. I entered this one in North Carolina and they were like, hey, move to L.A.

Speaker 2 And I grew up, I think it's really important to preface, I grew up in like the most strict

Speaker 2 environment. Like didn't get to go to high school football games, didn't get to really hang out with my friends.

Speaker 2 Damn sure couldn't like walk around them all by myself.

Speaker 2 But when these people were like, hey, you want to to move to LA? They were like, yeah, go.

Speaker 1 Your parents were like, have fun, honey. You're like, go.

Speaker 2 Like, you're going to do it. And I, I appreciate it because that means they believed in me so much.
But at the same time, our entire family was like, this is crazy. Like, you can't even carpool.

Speaker 1 Okay, wait. You starting at three,

Speaker 1 did, was it because like your mom just saw something in you?

Speaker 2 Like, we, we,

Speaker 2 the story is, because obviously I have no recollection.

Speaker 2 We were in a grocery store and a a talent agent said, Oh, she should be in commercials. And so it started from there and then kept going.

Speaker 1 And when you started working that young and then kind of became aware of it, like, did you love it? Like, did you? I loved it.

Speaker 2 Okay. I

Speaker 2 loved it. Eat, sleep, breathe.

Speaker 1 Okay. So you come from the Sterk family.
Then you get on a plane after graduating high school early. So you're what, 17?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was 17. My dad set me up for like a month.

Speaker 2 I got an apartment,

Speaker 2 ridiculously expensive.

Speaker 2 So I was shocked. Had to pick up three jobs.
I worked at a frozen yogurt shop. I worked at Abercrombie and Fitch.

Speaker 2 Farmers Market on the weekends. So like just to be able to make that happen.

Speaker 1 And I feel like when you have the dream of LA and acting or modeling or getting into this industry, like naturally rejection comes with that.

Speaker 2 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 When you came out to LA, what was your self-confidence like before you started like really getting maybe some no's?

Speaker 2 I think because I came from the small town, I was like, oh my god, this.

Speaker 2 And then I got out. I got out here.
And I remember the first couple of like cattle call auditions being like,

Speaker 2 Every single person in here looks exactly like me. Like there's, these are like, we're carbon copies of each other.
Like, what's going to set you apart?

Speaker 2 And so I think early on, I was like, wow, I've got to diversify my portfolio a little bit. Right.

Speaker 1 Because in North Carolina, you're like, there's like three of us in theater that are crushing.

Speaker 2 And then you get to LA and they're like, bitch,

Speaker 2 this is your first audition.

Speaker 1 Like, this is my 900th. Like, get in the back of the line.

Speaker 2 You're like, I'm walking in and I'm like, hello.

Speaker 1 And they're all like,

Speaker 2 don't, why is this girl talking to us?

Speaker 1 Okay, but like Aisha, you have like a huge flex.

Speaker 1 I found out that you were on an episode of Hannah Montana.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Girl.

Speaker 1 That was my favorite show growing up.

Speaker 1 So you know what? I would put that, if I was you, I would put that on my resume. I would put that as my Instagram.

Speaker 2 Show me the Instagram bio.

Speaker 2 I was in Hannah Montana, you fuckers. Actually, I have a good story.
I have a good story about that. Hopefully, you find this funny.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 I'm dead.

Speaker 2 The one little episode i was so excited i remember calling somebody like i got it i got it he was so excited for me i remember going to set and there was this lovely girl who was like in some of the scenes with me and billy ray walks up and he's like we're like oh hello sir like so nice to meet you and he's like you know you guys it was actually so sweet he was like you know you guys can really do this you can really do this and we're just looking at him like do what and he's like, Miley puts her pants on the same way you do every day.

Speaker 1 And, but it stuck with me. It's kind of true.
You're like, I could be Hannah.

Speaker 2 He's right.

Speaker 1 He's right, you know?

Speaker 1 You're literally like, what are you talking about, sir? And then you're like, oh, you're talking big picture here.

Speaker 2 I got big picture. This is like a little metaphor.

Speaker 1 I see where you're going with this, Billy Wright. So during that time, you and Steph were already dating with the Hannah McCarthy.

Speaker 2 We were dating. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's go back. Let's talk about how you met Mr.
Steph Curry.

Speaker 2 You

Speaker 1 met him in high school.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So I'm Canadian.
Okay. So I grew up in Markham, Ontario.
Um, and I moved to the States at 14 to North Carolina. And that's actually where we met.

Speaker 2 He's one of the first people that I met in the States, but we just friends,

Speaker 2 obviously, we were 14.

Speaker 2 Went to the same church, shared the same friend groups at church. And then when I moved to LA, he Facebooked me.

Speaker 1 Did he write on your wall or was like a private message?

Speaker 2 No, it was a private message, but he was like, hey, do you still live in LA?

Speaker 2 That's a lie. The first message was,

Speaker 2 I was in this music video and he was like, hey, who is that in the music video, in the picture that you're in? And I'm like, oh, it's young Berg. And he goes, oh, I should have known.

Speaker 2 He always has all the sexy ladies. And I was like, what is happening right now? You're like, Steph, I know you said you're 14.

Speaker 1 I was 15.

Speaker 2 What are you trying to do right now? At this time, so at this time now, we're 19. Okay.
18, 19.

Speaker 2 And so he goes, do you still live in L.A.?

Speaker 2 I'm here for a camp. Do you want to hang out? And I'm like freaking out because this guy, he was like the guy at church.
Like all the girls loved him.

Speaker 1 I thought you were going to say like in high school, like on the court. You're like, at church, he was the guy.
At church. Was he the basketball guy in high school or no?

Speaker 2 I, apparently, he was, but I, I didn't, I genuinely didn't pay attention to that because I, I grew up in such an arts-driven family that sports outside of like Doug Fluty playing for the Buffalo Bills, like wasn't a, it just wasn't a thing in my, in my house.

Speaker 2 And so,

Speaker 2 um,

Speaker 2 he said, so we made plans to hang out. And then I said, where are you staying? And he said, Anaheim.
And I was was like,

Speaker 2 I was

Speaker 1 like, so you're coming to me because I'm not.

Speaker 2 At this point, I still have the other jobs, like trying to pay the rent. Gas is expensive.
So I was like, I'm sorry. I can't this time.
But if you're ever back, let me know and we'll go hang out.

Speaker 2 And he's like, oh, I'm back in two weeks. And I'm like,

Speaker 1 oh my God. You still in Anaheim?

Speaker 2 So, no, this time he was in Hollywood. So he stuck with it.
He hit me up two weeks later. We hung out and we've literally been together since that day.

Speaker 1 Okay, hold on.

Speaker 1 You go and you hang out with him. What is your headspace? Are you seeing him in like a, could this be something kind of way? Or are you like, no?

Speaker 2 No, I was,

Speaker 2 and this is like my first real date.

Speaker 2 So, I was just nervous.

Speaker 2 I was nervous. It was like years of having a crush and then years.
Like, I just never thought that

Speaker 2 he would like someone like me. I just didn't think it was going to be a thing.
I found a friend. I found friends.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you ever have anything in high school at all? Or it was legit just friends?

Speaker 2 No, just friends. Just friends.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I get what you're saying. I'm like, you never saw him as something, but I'm like, when you look back, is there any memory that you're like, maybe there was something or not?

Speaker 2 No, never. I had a friend over

Speaker 2 who had a crush crush on his brother at the time. And she decided to call him.

Speaker 2 And they were giggling. And then they put, we're maybe like 15 at this time.
And they put Stefan on the phone. And somebody said something about Canada.
And so I was like, oh, I'm Canadian.

Speaker 2 And he's like, oh, do you like Canadian candy? And I'm like, I love Canadian candy. And so my aunt was coming into town from Canada.
And so she brought some for me.

Speaker 2 And so I was like, oh, I'll bring you a bag to church the next time we're at church. See,

Speaker 2 it was bad today. I bring the bag, and I literally, everybody's watching.
I hand it to him, and I don't say anything to him. I just hand, like, shove it and walk away.
Like, that's how shy

Speaker 2 I was.

Speaker 1 And did you like him at all? Like, in your heart, you're like, oh, I wish I had.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it just wasn't. It was high school.

Speaker 2 I thought he was so cute.

Speaker 1 Okay, so fast forward, you you go on this first date. Yeah.
What are the vibes?

Speaker 2 It was the, it was one of the best days of my life. Honestly, it was so innocent and young.
And like, I wish I could relive that or at least watch it from like a bird's eye view. It was so cute.

Speaker 2 We did Hollywood Boulevard,

Speaker 2 put our, put our hands in the, in the Marilyn hands

Speaker 2 and like

Speaker 2 got

Speaker 2 chai lattes.

Speaker 2 We went went over to the grove and like walked around and they were filming some Eddie Murphy movie that we like, I don't think it ever ended up coming out

Speaker 2 and just had checking cop cars to see if they had donuts. Like just like real young love.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I remember it like it was yesterday.

Speaker 1 I feel like when you have one of those first dates though, like I feel that way about my husband. I always say that to him.
I'm like, oh my God, what I would give to relive that night.

Speaker 1 Or at least I say the same thing, just watch it. Like I wish I could just

Speaker 1 because it's so romantic and cute to know then what comes from that story. So, that's really cute because it is so innocent.
You had no idea what it was going to lead to.

Speaker 2 And nobody could predict like what the future

Speaker 2 held holds.

Speaker 1 Did you guys kiss first date?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 Did he try?

Speaker 2 No, he tried. So, shortly after that, I got a really bad bout of laryngitis.
Stop. This is so random.
And

Speaker 2 my throat was so swollen. It was like, and I panicked.
And I was like, mom, dad, I want to come home. And so I went home and he was like, I'm home.
And so

Speaker 1 you're laid up with Larry Jay.

Speaker 2 That's true. So

Speaker 2 I got a little bit better. And then we like continued dating from there, obviously.
And like, I want to say it was maybe like the fourth date.

Speaker 2 He came like. I was mid-sentence and he like came flying at my face and I turned to the side.
I'm still nervous at this point. Like I, you and

Speaker 2 it's like butterflies. And he's like, oh, oh.
And I just look at it and I'm like, I didn't know that's what we were doing. Like I, I didn't know you liked me like that.

Speaker 2 And he was like, he was like, yeah, I've just been coming over to your house for the past two weeks to play video games with your brothers.

Speaker 2 I was like, you're like, oh. Try again.
Try again.

Speaker 1 One more time.

Speaker 1 And so did he try again? Yes. Oh, you, okay.
So you did. Okay, cute, cute, cute.
I'm like, this poor man gets rejected.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, it was fine. It was like a a split second.

Speaker 1 But it's cute too, because like in that moment, you're still the girl with the candy, like handing it to him, running away. And meanwhile, he's like, I like you.

Speaker 1 Can you sit there and like accept it for a second? That's really, really cute. Okay.
So when you're living in LA, you guys reconnect. He didn't live in LA at the time, right?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 So this is like a light, long distance situation.

Speaker 2 It's a light, long distance. Yeah.
He still had a year of college left. So it was pretty long distance.

Speaker 1 When you were in that beginning stage, did you have interest in a long distance? Like, how did you think this is even going to work?

Speaker 2 Ironically, I don't even think I was thinking of how it could work. We were just going through the motions, really.

Speaker 2 And it seemed like the people around us, too, like our families, were into it. And so they were like a really good support system through it.

Speaker 2 I don't know. It sucked now that I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 2 I remember I drove back to LA

Speaker 2 after he started his junior year of college and the season had started for him, but I had to go back for something. I don't remember what it was for.

Speaker 2 And at the time, you could get like his college games on the radio. And so I'm, and it was a big game.
And so I'm like listening, sobbing, like, I'm not there to support.

Speaker 2 You're literally driving home like the classic girl looking out the window, like so sad. You're like, fuck my life.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. But then it obviously ended up working out.
Tell me about the moment that he gets drafted to the Golden State Warriors because now he's coming full-time West Coast.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So he had like a big decision to make because he had a year left. He had a senior year left.
So it was like, do I stay? Do I go?

Speaker 2 And like, I think what a lot of people don't know is he really, like, he really thought about, like, it was like a torment for him. He called me like crying behind a tree.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 And I, and I'll stand like 10 toes down on this. Like, I don't, I'm not, it's not a secret.
I was like, stay in school.

Speaker 1 Wait, why? Because that, because then he was going to be far away from you still. Why?

Speaker 2 So the why is I didn't grow up surrounded by people who went to college. That for me was like, wow, what a blessing.
Like you, you get to go to college. You get to have an education.

Speaker 2 Like, why would you leave? So, and then not coming from that sports background and understanding how rare the opportunity he had was, I was like, Yeah, stay in school.

Speaker 1 You're like, college is so much cooler than the NBA.

Speaker 2 But I'm glad.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait.

Speaker 2 That was really the sentiment. Kind of love that for you.
But

Speaker 2 I'm glad he decided to leave. And then he ended up finishing anyway and has gone on to do tremendous, incredible, cool

Speaker 2 shit that we never thought would happen. So it's great.

Speaker 1 So he comes to the West Coast. And at this point, when he gets drafted, like, are you guys official boyfriend, girlfriend? Oh, yeah.
Who said I love you first? Me.

Speaker 1 What? Tell me. Tell me everything.

Speaker 2 I 100% said I love you first.

Speaker 2 I was visiting him at school.

Speaker 2 and getting ready to leave to go back to my mom's house. And I said it.

Speaker 2 And he didn't say it back.

Speaker 2 And he just stared at me.

Speaker 2 And my eyes started to well up. And he was like, can I please explain? And I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 And he's, oh, wait, not okay.

Speaker 1 I immediately now know what you're like in those moments.

Speaker 1 You literally go stone cold. He's like, okay.

Speaker 2 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Let me know.

Speaker 2 He's like, I.

Speaker 2 Said, he's, he's like, I said, I love you to somebody in in the past and I didn't mean it. He's like, and I regret it.

Speaker 2 And he's like, I just want to be sure that when I say it again, you know that it's, that I mean it.

Speaker 2 And in the moment, I was like, bullshit.

Speaker 2 But now, obviously, I realize he was serious. Then a few, a few, like a month later, we're sitting watching Seven Pounds.

Speaker 2 And when they say, like, the human heart is seven pounds, he literally, my whole family's in the room, by the way, sitting watching this movie he leans over in my ear and he's like i love you and i'm like happy but i'm also like what like are you doing sitting next to my uncle what are we doing

Speaker 2 no

Speaker 1 not step in that moment thinking like this is gonna be so romantic and you're literally like i mean if he's gonna do one thing he's gonna make it memorable So then you did you just not talk the rest of the fucking movie?

Speaker 2 I had to get up and take a lap. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did did he follow you?

Speaker 2 Um, no,

Speaker 2 and then after the movie was over, we like went in my uncle's elevator and we're like making out in there.

Speaker 2 It was crazy. That's what needed to happen.

Speaker 1 I sure came whispering that to you, and you just like stoke all the way.

Speaker 1 You're like, Uncle Jerry, just close your ears. What?

Speaker 2 I do have an uncle Jerry. It wasn't Uncle Jerry.

Speaker 2 Which uncle was it? My uncle Carl. Uncle Carl.
Yes. Jerry and Carl.

Speaker 1 Good names for uncles, right?

Speaker 2 Okay. Classic.

Speaker 1 You end up moving to the Bay Area.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Talk to me about for you what went into that decision.

Speaker 2 It was exciting.

Speaker 2 I think initially, when they called his name, we were like

Speaker 2 kicking each other under the table because nobody really knew where that was.

Speaker 2 But then the next morning, we

Speaker 2 got on the plane to fly out to the bay and have never looked back. And the vibes, the vibes in the bay are high.
Yes. It's so good.
Everybody's so creative. The culture is like rich.

Speaker 1 Pausing on you as a couple.

Speaker 1 Now let's talk about you as an individual, though, because you had the stream. And did you feel like in moving with him,

Speaker 1 did you feel like you had to pick between your career and and your relationship at that point?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 To an extent. That was never presented in front of me that way.
It just kind of had to be that way.

Speaker 2 And because when we, after we got married, we found out we were pregnant with our daughter so quickly,

Speaker 2 it

Speaker 2 I didn't even have time to think about what I wanted anymore. It's so interesting.
I spent my entire life

Speaker 2 like trying to work towards something and then it kind of just disappeared. And I didn't think twice about it.
But after my daughter turned one,

Speaker 2 I remember there being a shift and being like, uh,

Speaker 2 I have goals for myself. Like, this doesn't feel right.
I love being a mom, but I love doing other things too. And I need to get my shit together and figure out what that looks like for myself now.

Speaker 1 Okay. Rewind two steps.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Married at 22.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How did you know you were ready for that?

Speaker 2 I didn't. I just knew that I loved him and

Speaker 2 I'd never like experienced anything else. I'd never

Speaker 2 felt any differently than like, this is who I want to spend the rest of my life with. And so we kind of just dove in and.

Speaker 1 Did anyone or any you or Steph or anyone have any hesitations about like, oh, we're getting married in our early 20s or no?

Speaker 2 No. And I say this all the time to our family.
I'm like, you guys, like 22.

Speaker 2 I'm like, you guys,

Speaker 2 I'm like, not one, not a single parent. Nobody was like, hey, guys,

Speaker 2 are you sure? Everybody was like, no, this is what's happening. And we love you and we love you.
And it's going to be great. It's just like, wow.

Speaker 2 Like when I really look at it.

Speaker 1 Well, and again, because there are so many people that may watch this that are like, oh, 22 for them, whether it's because like they watched their parents get married young or whatever, it was normal.

Speaker 1 But you, in the beginning of this interview, started by being like, girl, I didn't even think I wanted to get married.

Speaker 2 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 So it is a big deal that at 22, it was.

Speaker 2 It's a mixture of that and a mixture of like there are levels to 22. Like there's different styles of 22-year-olds.
But I was like the naive, like very young,

Speaker 2 unpolished

Speaker 2 22-year-old. Like, I didn't have very much life experience.
And so it's just interesting.

Speaker 1 It is, but it's,

Speaker 1 again, I think like why I was excited to talk to you is because as women, there's just like so many things that happen in our life that we want to plan for.

Speaker 1 And then obviously life just doesn't go as planned. And to hear you at a young age getting married, I think like, and knowing it was such a success, but it doesn't mean the whole ride was easy.

Speaker 1 Like, that's what I'm excited to get into. Yeah.
So, a, what, like a few months after getting married, you just said you three months.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 What was going through your head when you found out that news?

Speaker 2 I was confused because

Speaker 2 how were you confused?

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 my OB said expected to take up to a year. And so, I'm like, oh, if in my head, I heard at least a year.

Speaker 2 I was thinking we were going to be like bar hopping.

Speaker 2 Like, it's like, like, it's like, nope, you're pregnant and you're going to be very, very sick. But I'm so grateful.
I wouldn't change a thing. Of course.
But

Speaker 2 it was not on my bingo card.

Speaker 1 And when all this went down, like,

Speaker 1 I guess now looking back, what advice would you give to someone listening who, of like how to embrace when your timeline suddenly changes?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 there's no such thing as a timeline, I think is the bottom line.

Speaker 2 Things are going to shift. Like life is ebbs and flows and you just kind of have to roll with the punches.
Sometimes stuff's going to suck. Like,

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 you can always recover. And I think it's important also, like, sometimes you can feel like you're in your own bubble or like.

Speaker 2 feel isolated or like you're the only person experiencing that thing, but there's always like a resource or there's always a community of people who are experiencing similar things.

Speaker 1 Did you have like any friends who were in similar life stages to you at that point? No. They're like, babe, we're at One Oak.
No.

Speaker 2 What are you doing? No, actually, all of our friends are like just now having babies, like the past four or five years. So we were the

Speaker 2 trailblazers.

Speaker 1 What was the hardest part of being a young mom?

Speaker 2 I think my identity. So,

Speaker 2 because I have such an entrepreneurial spirit, not being able to call the shots all the time for myself was freaking weird.

Speaker 2 And then learning how to kind of reset myself to make it all work while still having a family was weird too.

Speaker 2 But it's made me really resilient and like a little gritty. So I'm grateful for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like even thinking about how you said earlier, like once my daughter turned about one, I was kind of looking around like,

Speaker 1 I love being a mom.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I also have this other side of me that I can feel kind of wanting to come back up.

Speaker 1 And I think a lot of times women can experience like, or so I've read, because I'm obviously not a mother yet, hopefully. Um, but like women can experience this like mom guilt of like,

Speaker 1 if I have a career and I'm not home at like, like, did you experience that?

Speaker 2 I still experience that. I still experience that.
I'm almost like, I'm always in therapy talking about this.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 2 but what I realized is like, if you lose,

Speaker 2 if you lose, like for me being married and like with my husband, if you lose all of those things that

Speaker 2 were interesting about you,

Speaker 2 even for yourself, like even the things that made me feel confident and cool, then what, like, what are you doing? And so for me, it's always been important.

Speaker 2 I, I mean, I'm a little, I'm a little ADHD. So like I'm, I have a million and five ideas.
I have a million interests. I'm very creative.
I, and I like to explore those sides of me.

Speaker 2 And I think it keeps me

Speaker 2 who I am to like my family and the people that I love. But it also keeps allows me to have a certain level of confidence that I don't think I would have otherwise.

Speaker 1 Right. It's like you grew up, like we've talked about, like having this thing that you were so passionate about.

Speaker 1 And to lose that creative side of yourself would just mean that you're almost like doing a disservice to yourself.

Speaker 1 And then, therefore, to your kids and to your husband and to your relationships, like that's who you are.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you don't have to be as women were always told, like, or at least it feels like people just try to have us be one-dimensional and you can do more. Not that it's easy.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 But it's an option.

Speaker 2 It's an option. Like, I say all the time,

Speaker 2 I'm like, when men do it,

Speaker 2 they're like, oh my God, you're so multifaceted. Wow.
So talented. What a Renaissance man.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, why can't women do the same thing? Like, what is, what is giving you the ick so bad that you feel like I can't do these separate things, be good at them, or at least try to?

Speaker 2 Like, what, like, what is the problem?

Speaker 1 It is really frustrating. And then I think, thankfully, I feel like there's just been an uptick of people being like, you know what? I don't care anymore.
I'm just going to do it.

Speaker 1 Even if it pisses all of you off so much and it makes you uncomfortable to see a woman succeeding,

Speaker 1 deal with that on your own side because I'm going to keep fucking pushing.

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Speaker 1 There are a lot of people in sports that don't obviously have to

Speaker 1 go through as much of

Speaker 1 the conversation around like fame and spotlight as you and your husband have had to. How

Speaker 1 did being in the spotlight impact your relationship in the early days? Because you guys didn't know how to handle it.

Speaker 2 It's a double-edged sword

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 2 parts of it have afforded me doors to be open. I obviously have to walk through them and then put in the work to stay in the room.

Speaker 2 But that I think would be the elephant in the room: I'm grateful for that side of things. But on the flip side,

Speaker 2 I, I,

Speaker 2 in the beginning, hated it so much. I, like, did not sign up for that.
I also always thought, like,

Speaker 2 I didn't know that he was going to end up playing basketball. Like, I, he said he wanted to be a high school basketball coach.
Like, I thought, I, I thought I was going to be like

Speaker 2 the girl out there getting it. So, I didn't know.
Um, and so it, it just, like,

Speaker 2 it was weird.

Speaker 2 And sports fans are so different than like maybe entertainment world fans and oftentimes it's like very ruthless and so i think i wasn't expecting that either um i remember like one time right after my first was born she was whiny so i was like let me just nurse her in the back seat and stefan was putting a bike or something in the trunk and this woman like opens the car door And she sticks her head in and she's like, I just wanted to see the baby.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, oh, oh, excuse me. And she looks me dead in my face and goes, oh, honey, you know what you signed up for.
And then like shuts the door on me.

Speaker 2 And I was just crying because I was like, postpartum. I was just bawling my eyes out.
And I'm like, what? Like, is this what it's going to be? Like, wow.

Speaker 2 And so that the beginnings phases were kind of scary for me.

Speaker 1 And as a woman, like, did you ever experience any type of like direct scrutiny over just like

Speaker 1 you or what you looked like or how you were acting.

Speaker 2 Oh, all the time. I feel like I still do.
And that's okay.

Speaker 1 But how did that impact you though early on when you were like, I'm still not equipped to handle this? Because now you're like seasoned.

Speaker 1 Yes, it affects you, but you now have the tools of like, I've been here before. I know exactly how to handle this moment.
Yeah. Doesn't mean it doesn't still hurt.

Speaker 2 It was so depressing. And also, it was during that time when this like social media thing was just ramping up.
And so people were going buck wild

Speaker 2 and just spewing opinions on things that didn't warrant opinions. And so I, I think for a while, yeah, I was very critical of myself because of the things that I was seeing.

Speaker 1 It's so hard also to

Speaker 1 be the woman in a situation where you're like, men just don't get as much scrutiny.

Speaker 1 Like they can maybe tell him like, your fucking shots suck tonight, but like the looks and all of that is just like not a factor of conversation as much. No,

Speaker 2 did you

Speaker 1 talk to Steph about it? Like, or did you kind of keep it within yourself so it didn't?

Speaker 2 I have, I do not have a bone in my body that can keep anything to myself.

Speaker 2 So, if it comes to mind, it's coming out. Um, and he, he's so gracious, like

Speaker 2 he tries

Speaker 2 to resonate with me,

Speaker 2 but he just can't.

Speaker 2 And he also comes from a place of like,

Speaker 2 it's effing stupid. Like,

Speaker 2 it's not true. So, why are you? And I'm like, but wait, like, listen to how it makes me feel.
And he's like, but why does it make you feel like that? It's not real.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's so men. Where you're like, no, wait, but I want to talk about it for four more hours.
Yeah. You just sit down and they're like, you want me to solve it for you? Yeah.
It's not real.

Speaker 1 We both know it's not real. Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 He's like, no. Go to bed.

Speaker 2 Go to sleep.

Speaker 1 You're like in the bathroom brushing your teeth. You're like, another thing.

Speaker 2 You like pop out. He's like, quite literally.

Speaker 1 Can you share like

Speaker 1 something that was said about you in the early days to just like paint the picture?

Speaker 2 No one knows me on the spot. Okay, this looks kind of funny.

Speaker 1 Now it's funny.

Speaker 2 This is what's kind of funny because at a certain point, like I do have a round face. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 So like at a certain point, this was true because I was a little weightier, but there was this thing going around that said there's two things. It was like that I look like Spongebob's mom.

Speaker 2 Just look it up after. Okay.

Speaker 2 I felt that way. So then seeing it, I was like, damn.

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 What else?

Speaker 2 I think because he's like known for shooting threes, people will say something all the time like, oh, he shoots threes on and off the court. And I'm like, come on.
Well, first of all,

Speaker 1 three plus like a million. Like you were like so so fucking stunning and gorgeous.
Like I sweet.

Speaker 1 I don't need to say that to you, but I have to say it because it's also like the people that are writing it are probably threes, but not you.

Speaker 1 But also, I feel like it's funny to see any athlete's wife. Everyone just first goes for their looks and they compare it.

Speaker 2 It's crazy. It's so strange.

Speaker 1 That online conversation is so tired. Like immediately just judging a wife of like a man that is well-known and famous doesn't even have to be sports, it can be entertainment, actors, whatever it be.

Speaker 1 It's always at the looks.

Speaker 2 And it's like, aren't we tired? Yeah. Just a little bit.
I've also gotten the like, and I've gotten this in person a lot, is the like, the stigma of

Speaker 2 being a wife of somebody that plays professional sports or girlfriend, whatever, whatever.

Speaker 2 Oh, how does it feel

Speaker 2 to

Speaker 2 be said person's wife and also work? And I'm like,

Speaker 2 what? So I think there's a stigma out there that people don't do. These women aren't doing anything.
That's not true. There's so many women doing incredible things.

Speaker 2 A lot just like they do it under their radar, which is great.

Speaker 1 Like, no, it's so misogynistic.

Speaker 2 It's like,

Speaker 1 well, your husband makes so much fucking money. Like, why would you ever want to work? And it's like, God forbid, I also have individual interests and needs and wants and goals in my fucking life.

Speaker 2 Crazy.

Speaker 1 It's all projection.

Speaker 1 Okay, wait. I want to play a game then between you and Steph of who is more likely to.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Who is more likely to take a work call during date night?

Speaker 2 Stephan.

Speaker 1 Do you guys have boundaries of like, no, we're done with work, food?

Speaker 2 I do.

Speaker 2 Where's the game?

Speaker 2 You're like, do not disturb, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Okay, who is more likely to call a family meeting?

Speaker 2 Me.

Speaker 2 What was the topic of the most recent like Curry family meeting?

Speaker 2 These days, and I'm sorry, you guys. Is this the camera I look at? I'm sorry, you guys.
It's just true. These days, it's calling meetings about our parents to discuss our parents.

Speaker 1 When you become an adult and then you realize, like, oh, my parents, how did I get through an airport when I was younger? Like, how did you get me through to Terminal B?

Speaker 1 Like, you start to look at your parents, like, I love you more than life. Like,

Speaker 1 hello?

Speaker 2 What is going on?

Speaker 1 Who is more likely to splurge on a big purchase?

Speaker 2 Me.

Speaker 2 That is not even a conversation. Good version.
He's going to be so proud of me for being honest, too.

Speaker 1 He's going to be watching this, like, yes, babe. Thank you for taking accountability.
What is like one of your splurges that you're like, I'm really actually proud of that one?

Speaker 2 Actually, my ring. So I reset my ring.

Speaker 1 I've been staring at it.

Speaker 2 So, that's a good answer.

Speaker 2 But I feel like I'll have it forever.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about your business now.

Speaker 1 Because I really wanted to get to individually driven at a young age, you meet Steph, you have this like, oh my gosh, we didn't anticipate we were going to fall in love and then have babies and all the things.

Speaker 1 And then one day you woke up pretty quickly into having a kid, being like, Wait, wait, wait, I got to get myself back on track. Steph has his career.
I want my career to get back on track.

Speaker 1 What was the hardest part early days of like

Speaker 1 really trying to start your business?

Speaker 2 I think early days it was just starting. So I basically started.

Speaker 2 So I figured I wasn't going to transition back into acting yet.

Speaker 2 I was going to try to figure out something for myself where I could kind of stay in one place.

Speaker 2 I've loved food my entire life.

Speaker 2 Like I've cooked for my family since I was 11 years old.

Speaker 2 And people would often ask me for recipes and things like that.

Speaker 2 And so because we were the only people at the time in our family on the West Coast, everybody was on the East Coast, I was like, oh, I'll start like for the family.

Speaker 2 Like I'm just going to launch a blog. Blogs were the thing at the time.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 Stefan's actually the one that encouraged it because I would start and stop, start and stop. And he was like, just do it.
So I did it. Other people took notice.

Speaker 2 And then someone said, hey, people like to see these things. Like, make a video.
And so I started making videos.

Speaker 2 And from there, it just

Speaker 2 grew. And I went to San Francisco cooking school for a little bit.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 the

Speaker 2 station that broadcasts the Warriors games at the time.

Speaker 2 They reached out and they were like, hey, we really like your videos. Like, what if we gave you a 30-minute slot before every game locally and we did a cooking segment and i was like yeah

Speaker 2 and so that was like my first tv cooking direct to camera and then from there it grew to the book and then the book to food network and so it was like i had this

Speaker 2 robust like food television career very quickly um that happened pretty organically and

Speaker 2 i i've like enjoyed every minute of it

Speaker 1 what has been, do you think, the hardest situation that you've had to navigate as a female business owner?

Speaker 2 Why are you laughing? Sorry. Cause I don't know if I can say this, but I'll just say it anyway.

Speaker 2 The hardest, there's two. The first is

Speaker 2 hearing the nose. as a woman in food.
So I didn't realize how many barriers at the time. Now it's very different.

Speaker 2 There were, I was either too young or too young of a woman, or there was nobody that looked like me. So instead of being like, you don't have a demographic here, let's create one.

Speaker 2 It was like, no, you don't have a demographic here. And so I think that was shocking to me.
Getting people to take me seriously, because at the time, I think I was now 24 or 25. And so getting people

Speaker 2 to see me and realize that I had talent outside of

Speaker 2 what people were assuming, I think, has been really difficult.

Speaker 1 I think also what you were kind of alluding to when you were saying that, you know, people were looking to see if you actually had talent outside of maybe what people were expecting you to be known for.

Speaker 1 And kind of what we were talking about with the money thing earlier, it's like, yes, I think there's a lot of people that would be like, you're Steph Curry's wife. Like

Speaker 1 go sit in the stands and like he makes so much money. Just be happy.
And so there's the one, why are you working question? And then there's the two now that you're bringing up of like people

Speaker 1 maybe assuming, oh, is she getting what she's getting just because

Speaker 1 she is this guy's wife? How does that make you feel when you hear those comments?

Speaker 2 It feels crazy. And actually, what you just said, like, I recall like sitting there, you said in the stands,

Speaker 2 a reporter actually literally said on live television, she needs to sit there and look pretty like other people.

Speaker 2 I think people just don't realize that there is a life outside of

Speaker 2 where we are now in our adulthood.

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 2 people can't see past like the surface one sheet. Yep.

Speaker 1 Or you know what? They don't want to.

Speaker 2 They don't want to. They don't want to.
Which sucks. It sucks so bad.

Speaker 2 But I'm going to keep trying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're going to keep going.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Even if you guys don't like it. Yeah.
Women are just going to keep on coming. And they're going to be like, oh my God, here they come again.

Speaker 2 Throughout your career,

Speaker 1 that's crazy.

Speaker 2 Well, we may also come again.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, if you can make us.

Speaker 2 If not, we'll do it ourselves.

Speaker 1 Okay, here we go.

Speaker 1 Talking about, you know, these industries that you were trying to break into, having people look at you being like, we haven't seen someone like you do it before, or also you being too young, all these things.

Speaker 1 A lot of these industries that you were trying to break into were heavily male-dominated.

Speaker 2 Very male-dominated.

Speaker 1 Also, probably

Speaker 1 controlled by white men. Like, how did you get the confidence and moments to advocate for yourself?

Speaker 2 I didn't.

Speaker 2 I didn't at the time. I, I, I didn't have that.
I kind of was just going where I was told.

Speaker 2 But I, it took for somebody to advocate for me. So it took somebody at the network who was a woman who just so happened to have their first child to be like, no, she's not too young.
And I see it.

Speaker 2 And we're going to do it. And I'm like, forever grateful.

Speaker 2 But I think now

Speaker 2 in my 30s,

Speaker 2 I've gotten pretty good at advocating for myself or like just living in that vulnerability of what that means.

Speaker 2 So even if it's not well received, at least I'm satisfied and I know that I've spoken up for myself because I've, I

Speaker 2 have in the past

Speaker 2 tended to be very timid and shy and reserved for the most part.

Speaker 1 So you saying that a

Speaker 1 woman kind of like paid it forward to you and was like, no, let's give this girl a chance. That

Speaker 1 makes me so hopeful because I feel like even you saying that, it,

Speaker 1 the fact that there's, she was probably the only woman in the room and then she saw something in you. I think it's a great message to, there's so many women that will be listening to this.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I know sometimes it can feel like, as the only woman, just be like grateful that you are at least a woman in the room. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But like to lift other women up with you is how we're going to stop feeling so isolated and alone in those rooms with men. So like, what a beautiful moment for you.

Speaker 1 Now you being kind of maybe more in the position of power. Yeah.
How have you been able to uplift and kind of advocate for more women in your industry?

Speaker 2 So through all of this,

Speaker 2 through my culinary background and hospitality and all of that, we've really like realized the power of storytelling. And so

Speaker 2 we had Sweet July magazine for a while. We have Sweet July Productions and Sweet July Books now.

Speaker 2 And so the way that I feel like I pay it forward is by finding badass women in all of those spaces and giving them the platform to tell their stories. It's so much more rewarding.

Speaker 2 It's like what you're doing. It's so much more rewarding

Speaker 2 than

Speaker 2 trying to go around for yourself. You know, it's, it's, when you lock arms with strong,

Speaker 2 creative, outspoken women, it just, it's so much more powerful than doing it alone.

Speaker 1 You know, it like

Speaker 1 changes everything. Like, you're like, oh my God.
And we all usually start alone. Yeah.
Like, that's the thing that's

Speaker 1 so, it's so exciting and eye-opening when you start to work with more women who are like-minded.

Speaker 1 And you're like, oh my God, why was it this hard to get to this place where I finally get to work with women?

Speaker 1 Because a lot of times it takes you being in a position of privilege to then create that environment around you in a work setting. And it's incredible that you are doing that.

Speaker 1 Your foundation that you have with Steph, eat, learn, play. Can you talk about like what is the most rewarding part of being able to do that together?

Speaker 2 I think the single most important thing we'll

Speaker 2 do in our careers for sure is eat, learn, play.

Speaker 2 So basically, we provide access to quality nutrition, quality education, and safe places to play for kids in the Oakland Unified School District.

Speaker 2 The statistics

Speaker 2 are devastating when you look at

Speaker 2 how kids are learning within the school system. But then when you pan out and you look from a bird's eye view at why that is, and you realize it's those three simple things, like it's heartbreaking.

Speaker 2 And no child should have to be without that. And so, we partnered

Speaker 2 with the school district and founded Eat Learn Play like right before the pandemic started.

Speaker 2 And have been able to make some pretty impactful change so far. There's literally so much more to do.

Speaker 2 But I think it's so important to us because it's, we're going to start to see if a shift for the future generations. And if we lay the foundation now,

Speaker 2 it'll be smooth sailing down the road. And like a lot of people ask us why we're so siphoned into just Oakland.
And it's because you got to crawl before you walk.

Speaker 2 And if we can solve the problems there and create a really robust, foolproof model for other communities to take it and run with it, we don't have to be attached to it. That's not why we're doing it.

Speaker 2 And so if they can just take the model and implement it there, I feel like that's how we'll see the most impactful change.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's incredible to even hear you talk about it more because you can tell how passionate you are about it. But also it's like, yeah, it doesn't.
I love that you're saying like.

Speaker 1 The goal isn't for Steph and I to have our faces on this. Like it's literally like we're trying to use what we have to make change.
It's incredible you're doing that.

Speaker 1 Okay, you obviously, we were earlier talking about Sweet July and how you've had all of these moments, but now you have Sweet July skin.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Talk to me about, well, first of all, talk to me about where did that name come from?

Speaker 2 So Sweet July started because I realized that a lot of the like high endorphin,

Speaker 2 excitement, happy moments in my life happened at one time. And that was in July because of the kids being born, our anniversary,

Speaker 2 having my my man home in the off season

Speaker 2 and i realized like after

Speaker 2 the gratefulness would kind of taper off like there was this like heightened gratefulness during that it's like i'm so grateful thank you god

Speaker 2 and then it would kind of

Speaker 2 i'm just being honest it would taper off and i was like no no no that's not okay

Speaker 2 like you can find so much joy in

Speaker 2 like the smallest of things. Like I'm sure you get joy when you drink your unwell.
I do. Right.
It's like a cup of coffee, putting on a lip gloss.

Speaker 2 Like, what are those small things that you can just pause for a second and be like, no, I can have gratitude in this moment and just appreciate it a little bit more and find the beauty in the small things.

Speaker 2 And so

Speaker 2 it came about that way.

Speaker 2 But yeah, we launched Sweet July Skin. We just celebrated our second birthday.
Congratulations. And thank you.

Speaker 1 And what made you want to get into the skincare industry?

Speaker 2 Well, I struggle and obviously to to this day

Speaker 2 with my skin. I always have

Speaker 2 like my mom and my grandma do not. So I must have got the other side of the genetics.
It's fine.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I started to remember all of these like traditional island remedies that they would speak to to help them with their skin. And so I started to do some research and it was really science backed.

Speaker 2 And so,

Speaker 2 and I'm just a skincare junkie, honestly. So we started working with a lab and a chemist and formulating sweet July skin based off of these like Caribbean superfoods backed by science.
And so

Speaker 2 that's kind of how it was born. It's so ironic, though.
There's like things you can control, can control and there's things you just can't.

Speaker 2 So like even right now, like I'm having this crazy hormonal breakout. And so the confidence of being like, I own a skincare brand and this being out of my control right now is crazy.

Speaker 2 I know there's so many women dealing with like PCOS and like different things and there's just some things that you cannot control.

Speaker 2 And I think what's been so great about these products is they're clean,

Speaker 2 vegan for the most part. And

Speaker 2 you don't, these aren't products that you're going to use on your skin. And it's, it's going to add to the problem.
It's going to help keep them at bay. It's, it's anti-inflammatory.

Speaker 2 It's not going to irritate you. And so I think I love it for that reason.
And I'm kind of like a walking

Speaker 2 spokesperson right now because my skin ebbs and flows and that's okay.

Speaker 1 I really think it's incredible, though, that you're just saying it how it is because let's be real, like so much goes into marketing of certain quote-unquote celebrity brands, whether it's makeup or skincare or clothing or whatever.

Speaker 1 And like.

Speaker 1 My frustration in the skincare industry, especially with celebrities, is like, girl, some of us don't have the most perfect skin.

Speaker 1 And so to act like you got that skin from this line, even though I've seen your skin has been perfect forever, like forever,

Speaker 1 but I'm not saying you're never going to break out because that's just your body.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

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Speaker 2 Hmm.

Speaker 2 And I think I can speak on both of our behalf when I say

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Speaker 2 Thank you. No.
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