Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)

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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Chase Craw chase crawford welcome to call her daddy thank you for having me alex yeah i am so excited to meet you okay you have to tell a little bit of the backstory though because you were just telling me downstairs that you kind of were a fan and like i need to hype myself i was listen i'm a little bit nervous right now because i'm so excited alex no i, I was telling you, I'm like, maybe I save it for the podcast,

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I'd be like, you know, I'd be like, walking my dog.

I always listen to podcasts.

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This is what the guys were seeing in New York or whatever. Right.
And I lived in New York, obviously. So, but, but yeah, but you guys are like, this is how we're seeing this is what's the guys we're seeing in new york like or whatever right and i lived in new york obviously so but but yeah but you guys are like this is how we're seeing it this is the real stuff we're gonna give give out this is how you play it this is our advice this is what works for us and i thought it was the best thing i laughed i thought it was amazing i would listen to like full full like oh my god oh so you've really i was entertained by the whole thing yeah I love your new stuff.
I love all the stuff. Oh, you were all the way back in like the blowjob tips.
Like you were- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.
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I'm really interested because

every time I meet people, I have no idea what to expect. Like with you, I was interested to know,

like, is he going to be extroverted? Is he going to be introverted? Like,

would you say in your life you're an extroverted person? I'm weird. I'm weird.
I am. I'm, I'm,

I'm both. I know that's like a lame answer, but like's a normal i'm very much like i i'm i compartmentalize things i can really like go out and like let loose and i'm very social and i can be loud and have fun yeah but i like my alone time you know i like i like my own bed and like i'm sort of a closet reader and a nerd and like my dog i like i like my alone time so yeah what kind of dog do have? He's like a little rescue.
They lied to us at the rescue place. I share him with an ex-girlfriend, actually.
You're one of those? I'm one of those. Chase, I'm judging you so hard.
I know. Oh, my God.
It's all about him, though. It's all about the dog.
No, that's fucking bullshit. Wait, that's like a full problem.
When you meet someone new and you have to be like, this is like our child. I know.
It's not even, I mean, she's got a fiance. It's not even like, I know.
I don't think it's a weird thing at all. People think it's the funniest thing.
I'm like, it actually is the only way to have a dog. In fact, a cast member recently, she wanted a dog.
I'm like, you want to get a dog together? I know how this goes. That is actually mentally insane.
It's insane. So you have to see her constantly.
You know, not as often as you think. She does have a key to my house.
And so a lot of times, I know, it's getting worse. Listen, it's not that big of a deal.
A lot of times, I'll just, like, I flew out last week to go work in Toronto. I'm like, hey, Shiner's name's Shiner.
After a Texas beer, very stupid. I'm like, Shiner's in the house.
Just go in there and take him. And she just goes and picks him up.
I'm not even there. But sometimes'm not even there but sometimes yeah we're still like friends and cordial it's great so you're imagine you're like in there on a date with the dog and she comes to pick it up and has the key like you just you have to describe that to new women like listen it's nothing other than just for the dog's happiness like we share her right right i get i'd never let that happen i guess i drop him off sometimes she lives close by me and and whatnot what if a girl said like i can't do this unless you guys give up the dog oh these girls gone i mean this dog takes precedent i think i might love that dog more than my future child jace oh my god i mean i'm not even kidding i will i will die for that dog i i'm a dog mom that's how it happens they get you like that they really i get it i get it How would your friends describe you to like someone that dog.
I'm a dog mom. That's how that happens.
They get you like that. They really, I get it.
I get it. How would your friends describe you to like someone that they wanted to set you up with? Like, how are your friends describing you? I don't know.
That's a very good question. Uh, outgoing, funny, hopefully.
Um, you know, I can, I, I like to think I can cook a little bit. Uh, but if they were being honest, I don't know i don't know maybe maybe you know he's a bad texter maybe i'm not that grumpy honest i'm not that great you know i think that's a good sign though i think if you treat a woman really well in person and then sometimes you're not a bad texter but you're open about it right like that's okay like matt my partner is like my husband is like yes not he's not a good texter at all in the beginning days i was like does he fucking hate me yeah totally but now i know i like appreciate it that he's not on his phone 24 7 being one of those freaks like are you on your phone though 24 7 you're just not texting back i'm not no no i like to leave it it's always on vibrate i like to i still like to be always attached to it okay so that's good then i'll overthink i have a little anxiety i don't know what to do so sometimes i like for i literally forget to like form a response you know i gotta get back to that so i'll forget about it and it's terrible and i'm just that's kind of how i am i'm a little scattered with the texting but do you think that's your biggest red flag like you're just a bad texter what else what's what's another red flag i'd like to think i got green flags no i got let me think um you know my exes maybe my 20 might say i'm bad at communicating so that kind of ties in but i've learned i've learned you've gotten better you've gotten better late 30s now i've gotten better so i'm more vulnerable yeah we love a vulnerable man that can like tap into his emotions and his feelings totally what are you doing on a saturday night? Oh, that's a good question.
Usually, what did I do last weekend? Like my buddy, like this next Saturday, he does like 60, he does these big like lunches at Jelena in Venice. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We all bring a bottle of wine, but it's like six hours. So he prefaced it with that.
I was like, I don't know if I'm going to make it six hours. Jesus Christ.
And it went by like that. So we do this, we do these little like lunches with random different people he's kind of in the food industry so we kind of like have these interesting are you getting like annoyed when you're out like are you getting noticed all the time everywhere you go no no it depends i'm not like you know i'm not like dicaprio level where it's like this i kind of have a nice pocket where it's it's fun to get recognized for the Gossip Girl thing still.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.
Which has still been this three different waves of Netflix. I don't know how it keeps coming around, but it's the same age, you know, female is always so excited.
So I do get it sometimes in more touristy spots like Venice or in New York or somewhere kind of where there's more people from all over the place. Yeah, it's good.
But it's fun that you good attitude about it because I can imagine like I've I've talked to people before on my show about like people that are have done so much in their career but there's this one thing that people are like we just can't get past it like for you it's gossip girl for like other oh my god for other people it's like the oc like I know you've talked talking like Rachel Bilson like totally yeah it's like she's done so much in her career but But there's the one thing that people like, can we just talk about this for 19 hours? And it's like you can either just be positive about it or like fucking hate it. But like it's what made you super famous.
Right. And it's kind of fun for all of us to like indulge a little bit.
I mean, when you're young in your 20s, it's like I'm like you try everything so precious. I want to be like Marlon Brando.
I was so annoyed by Gossip Girl. Right.
And like even the name. it's like it's the great it's great it's the greatest thing yeah it's like it's this weird cultural thing of the zeitgeist of that time to like pre-instagram pre all these things like the first iphone had just come out like it was such a weird amazing time in new york fucking amazing when were you in new york i was in new york right i'm a like a little younger so i was like yeah new york for me was just as crazy but like i had my fucking iphone and it wasn't as fun like i remember college more when i was watching gossip girl in like high school i was like obsessed with it because i grew up on the east coast i like knew the nature of new york city but i was not i didn't come from like a wealthy family so like i was like with the fucking Humphreys.
I would have been down in like- I mean, even the Humphreys are in this like loft space. It's like a $20 million.
Like that's all BS. Like that's like- That's what I was like.
I can't afford shit. Like what the fuck? My first apartment in New York City was quite literally a shoebox.
And I'm like, yeah, it's not looking so glamorous, but you still go out and you can still go to the similar similar places that's what I love about New York is like yeah you can go to where DiCaprio is or whoever the fuck and New York is cool like that where LA is a little bit more snooty where it's like you can't get in here where New York it's like anyone can get in anywhere and they'll treat me like it's kind of nice because everyone was like way too cool for school yes they don't give a shit about anything at all I don't even like look at me like at the thing I'm like okay listen i mean get lakers tickets to save my life everyone wants it but the knicks they would always give me knicks tickets and rangers baby so yeah that was it fucking amazing shout out to them we're gonna talk a little bit more obviously about gossip girl at some point but i do want to talk to you about your childhood because obviously you're this like you became this heartthrob your life changed i think around like 22 ish was Gossip Girl yeah 21 22 you're right yeah yeah yeah so like before that like how would you describe your childhood it was interesting I was born in Lubbock small town Texas not much going on out there I kind of woke up I was in Oklahoma City first memories so random parents are from there dad's from there my parents met there at a small very small like religious college there so Oklahoma City very and listen my parents had me when they were like 20 and 21 so that's you know a very very southern thing yeah I mean they were still growing up as we were I can't imagine having like a 15 year old right now so um so they were young my dad was in med school uh what what happened we moved to minnesota for four years for his med school and then we moved back to texas uh when i was like nine or ten years old in dallas i'm from dallas like north north dallas a little bit suburbia a little bit out there in the sticks but more suburbia you know yeah were you raised religious yeah yeah basically yeah were you oh my god it was was tough. Cause obviously I can't imagine being from the South and being raised religious.
Like I was raised Catholic every single Sunday going to church and I was from Pennsylvania. So it wasn't like probably as intense maybe as like adding on the South, but it was just confusing because I always felt more like pulled to the arts and like pulled to these things that just like weren't as traditional.
Me too. Right.
Yeah. And so you just kind of feel like a fucking weirdo and you feel like art naturally like pushes the boundaries on conversations.
Right. And when you're raised religious, it's a little bit like, what are you doing here? Like you're like calling outside the lines.
And if you were raised in Los Angeles, it's like, go sweetie, you're're doing great so it's like it's just a matter of where you were raised like was it hard for you with like when did you know you wanted to get into the arts i was i was like an artistic kid actually i was always drawing and stuff i i never wanted to be an actor i had no idea about acting or any of it i know it's like that shitty story that's like no one wants to hear i'd like no that good. That's good.
Yeah, yeah. I was very naive about the acting thing.
I just, yeah, when there was like this secular world, right, that's like, you know, even though I was sort of a bit policed on what music I was listening to and all these other things, it kind of makes you feel just claustrophobic in a way, right? I remember like always really wanting to just travel or just get out of the bubble and meet new people and go out and do that. But I was a pretty good drawer and like charcoal and like a little bit of painting when I was like, you know, like middle school.
I started kind of I'm not like I was good for like a sixth grader. OK, good for like a good for like a hundred kids in my grade.
OK, I was like the best artist at like a hundred kids in Dallas. Right.
Right. Right.
No, no. But but so, uh, so my parents did kind of like foster that a little bit.
They let me, you know, I went into like photography classes and those are my favorite, favorite stuff. Yeah.
So did you ever have an awkward phase? Oh yeah, totally. Oh my God.
I should have. Yeah.
I wish I had a picture of me in like sixth grade with the Abercrombie and the puka and like, Oh, I'm talking full highlight cap. Like my mom highlighting my hair through the noodle cap but wasn't that like low-key hot at the time yeah i i thought i mean we all thought so the puka shell was like if if a guy was wearing a puka shell i'm like you were the fucking shit like you had confidence wait why were you awkward i just was awkward i wasn't good at talking to girls i had no idea like you know you think you think like one plus one equals two at that time.
You like a girl, they're supposed to like you back. And when the first girl did not like me back at all, I was like, oh, shit.
Like, I was like, okay. I guess I didn't even really come into my personality until like middle of high school, I would think.
Yeah. I think that's kind of normal, though.
I feel like boys either are just like so outgoing and loud and like kind of annoying as shit. Right.
Or there's like the little artsy guys that like blossom eventually i was a little bit more in that yeah you know what i mean what were your friends like so i had some good friends i i they were kind of geeky you know outdoorsy you know like go-karts and bikes and and like just little like all you know outside doing you know sports was sports is a big like, you know, Texas thing. So like everyone has gotten even worse.
Like every weekend is like sports for kids. And it's just this whole.
And you didn't play football. I did.
But not like not like Friday Night Lights football. It wasn't like the Panthers.
You weren't Tim Riggins. I love kids.
He's a he's a buddy. But, you know, I actually I actually auditioned for that for that show and didn't didn't get the quarterback.
And I was devastated at the time. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, my God. And you must have been, like, wanting that, too, because being from Texas, that kind of went, like, a full circle fun moment.
Oh, devastated. Yeah.
I was like, oh, my God, that's so bad. But it didn't work out.
So you didn't get it in real life and you didn't get it in acting. No, yeah.
Yeah. Scarred forever.
Yeah, yeah. I was definitely not're not you're not gonna you're probably not gonna go over six foot so let's um he was like let's maybe stick to golf and something easy yeah golf tell me about golf because i'm gonna be honest when i think back to high school and i think about the guys i'm i'm not you know i'm not gravitating toward the golfers however i feel like they figured they figured.
No, listen. Now, in hindsight, if I have a son one day, I'm like, get your fucking ass into golf.
Right, right. Those are the guys that like get the scholarships and are smart and have their life figured out and just like look put together.
We're like the meatheads, like God bless them. But like, where are they? I know.
You can keep playing golf touch your life. And I'm not even like, I feel like I, it seems like I play in these little charity things that they invite me to.
And like, so I, yeah. So I'm like, but I'm not that big of a golfer.
I played growing up because there was, because I just wasn't going to be big enough for football. So that was sort of the impetus there.
Can you imagine if you had gotten Friday Night Lights? That is interesting. It would have been totally different.
Because the next year I got the Gossip Girl thing. So it would have been totally, totally Oh my God, either like you playing football or you being like trust fund Mr.
Swab in New York City. Yeah, yeah.
I feel like that fit you well. Not that you could have done football, okay? I want you to know I would have accepted that role too.
But I think it was meant to be. It was meant to be.
Right, right, right. Okay, wait, so you got denied by a girl.
Did you ever go to prom? I did go to prom, yeah, yeah. How did you do a promposal promposal come on oh my god i actually ended up going i one of my best friends in high school was this girl alissa alissa weldon lover we called her whoopee so we used to like go to prom together just because i had think i had a girlfriend from a different that's right a girlfriend from a different school and there was like a thing where the girls didn't want you it was just like if you you can't bring a girlfriend to school so i want to bring my friend whoopee and we tore it up me and whoopee tore it up yeah oh good for you so that was it do you remember the first time you drank yeah i do actually i do tell us the story it was come on back of a honda prius no mike's hard lemonade or no it was a it was a it was a grab bag it was mike's hard lemonade and smirnoff let's say smirnoff or like zima or something like that but it was mike's hard lemonade and smirnoff i think i had one of each but it was one of those things where you like you don't know if you're drunk and you don't know how to act you you act drunker than you are i think i think i'm feeling i'm feeling great like you like try and and like like, dude, it's just water.
We like, we, we, we, we fucked with you. It's just water.
Well, you're not even like fucking tipsy, but you're like, no guys, things are really starting to feel different. And it's nothing is different.
We're just driving and it's like moving a little bit. Okay.
Calm the fuck down. Exactly.
Wow. Okay.
So like you had like an okay experience. Cause I feel like to say that you had that for your first drink.
Like I was like going into my my parents liquor cabinet and like grabbing like a disgusting brandy and like holding my nose and like vomiting back into the bottle and just trying to get like a couple steps you had a nice little mike's no no i had a bad moment with vanilla it was i think it was vanilla coke or vanilla sky it was like vanilla some vanilla flavored ruined it forever that'll do it that'll do it so that's your drink that was my bad moment it was like coke and some vanilla like vanilla coke some mixed with vodka bad night you can never now not drink that and think of that no it was great because then i just kind of would like i switched the beer as you want one dozen texas you switch to some beer so um abercrombie and fitch what the fuck what the fuck like i was so awkward about you were an abercrombie and fitch No, I worked there. I worked behind the counter.
I was like doing the numbers. You still had to be hot.
You still had to be hot and cool. Like you still had to have a thing going.
I think I lied about my age too because they were like, I thought it was like cool to be picked. Like, would you work in? I was like, yeah, maybe.
Maybe. Like, yeah.
Give me an application. And I was like, lied on the application.
How? okay, to all the Gen Z people that are listening

that may have like no idea about the 2000s Abercrombie craze,

can you just describe what it was like to work there?

You have no idea.

First of all, okay, you get to the mall, you walk in,

you can smell that store from any entrance point in the mall, right?

Woods Cologne, never, I can smell it and I can taste it right now. I'm thinking about it.
It's kind of disgusting. They probably still have it.
God. Yep.
And then as I'm getting closer, I can hear the same fucking mix that they've been playing on repeat for 48 hours. I can know this song.
And now I probably love every song on there. But it's the same thing.
You get in there. There's like greeters standing there.
Sometimes shirtless back in the day i mean you were never one of those i was never one of those they tried to actually i had enough at least self-dignity respect back and i was like um i'm a math guy like put me behind the register so and i actually time went by way faster uh i was not a greeter but you get there you might be introduced by some shirtless guys and then uh and there's always photographs he's like those Bruce Weber, like black and white photographs. Those were kind of the iconic thing that made it so.
Yeah. At the time, that was very racy and sexually.
Because we got a little bit of penis lines going on the boy's side. And the girl's side was these abs.
And I was like, I literally don't even have tits right now. And they were like 25 years old, right? Completely.
Completely. They're not like high school kids.
And the smell, I was thinking about it though, like Hollister was 10 times worse because you had to walk in there with a flashlight. They turned all the lights off and it was like a madhouse, like, and you're literally like grabbing clothes and you're just checking out.
It was awful. Yeah, it was terrible.
Yeah, I worked at both. I at hollister too for a summer it was what terrible it was awful it was awful chase you had you are like that guy the guy that just like worked at abercrombie and hollister yeah i know i kind of love it though yeah it was cool back then embarrassing it was it was cool yeah it was cool it's not it's not embarrassing it's cool it's cool because back at the in the day, I feel like half the time I would walk in that store, and that was maybe my sexual awakening being like, whoa, these boys are so gorgeous.
Again, like you said, 25-year-old men. Right.
And I think it was a whole experience that back in the day, that was the coolest thing going. Now we don't even have malls anymore.
No, there's no malls. The Bev Center is great.
It's empty. It's kind of nice.
You can walk my dog. It's kind of nice in there.
It is a ghost town. Okay, we're talking about Gossip Girl again.
Okay, okay. The audition process.
I think it's fascinating to think about, like, you obviously don't get Friday Night Lights. And then you go for this.
Like, what does that even entail? Like, how long was it? Did you even know what the show really was going to be? No, I had no idea. I mean, I, like a lot of kids, I grew up in the OC in high school and into my college.
The best show. In my college year, it was the best show.
Loved it. But it was weird.
I went in there. It was like a process of like six hoops to jump through.
It was actually kind of a wild process. But I knew that Josh and Stephanie did the OC.
They're phenomenal. i knew it could have this potential to be cool and i'm like oh they're definitely gonna change the name that name's never gonna stick you know it's based on these books whatever but i went in and then right away uh if i remember i wore like my most new yorky jacket possible like my preppiest you know whatever and uh but at the same time i bit like, again, I'm like younger.
I was a little like eye roll. Like this is kind of not beneath me, but I wanted Friday Night Live.
Yeah. So I kind of went in there with like a very kind of blasé, like whatever, which probably worked in my favor as those things kind of do.
But they wanted to do like a test, you know, thing right away, which I thought, great, there's going to be like one more audition or whatever. But then it was like back with producers and then like producers and director.
And then it was like, it's all different now. Now it's all self-tapes and you just kind of put yourself out there.
Right. You know, but back then it was like, it was CW, so it was CBS and Warner Brothers.
So you had to go to like the top of like the Warner Brothers building and I remember one of the final maybe fourth or fifth times I like walking this big like 40 row conference room you know and I think I tested with a few actresses a few girls for like Blair or whatever and I remember thinking like I'm like god that's a really great part like she's got some great chunks of dialogue it's like funny and you know no no offense they didn't really i was like that's i just don't really see it with these girls and i got this big conference room and there was just this one girl kind of sitting with her back turned i walked all around like hi nice to meet you and it was like late and turned around and before she even said i'm like that's she's like so perfect she was like hi nice to meet you i like that's the girl so we both were like super nervous and we had to like go in and test it's silly it was like a theater seating dark room one stool like lights and it was like you go and then it's like the silliest scenes ever you're doing like in front of like all these people i'm like talking about nathaniel's paxel and all this stupid stuff and so uh anyway so i i did that. I was like, I don't know if it went well.

And I guess I got the call.

So I got it.

So that is I love also how you just like knew Layton.

Also, she was so fucking perfect for that part.

Like no one else could have had band on.

She flipped around.

I'm like, I think I'm in love with you.

You're like, I love you.

And then America was like, I love you, too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Did you always know you were going in for Nate?

Yeah, always for Nate.

Yeah, I think they switched around some of the roles kind of like to play.

I remember going to a reading with blake and a few other guys they were trying to fit the pen to the dan role so yeah i think it's just so fascinating because i've heard some people go in for someone and they get switched but like when i think of nate your character like had a very different upbringing than like what you were used to. Like when you first started filming, could you relate to anything about this person? No, like nothing.
No, absolutely nothing. I had no idea.
I didn't really know any Northeastern people. I had no idea.
Like the whole thing. I was it was all new to me.
Did you have an accent? I had I had a like a subtle I kind of lost it in California when I went to college to college for like four years but i get drunk i have a little accent yeah but but i had uh i did think about that though i'm like how do these you know what is that new york thing you know what is that preppy thing but uh because you went to pepperdine for one year i did yeah for about a year and a half yeah exactly did your family think you were losing your mind that you dropped out kind of i mean they like i i i kind of freaked out i didn't know what i wanted to do with my life I kind of had a freak out moment and just they were supportive I graduated high school a bit younger I was like 17 so they were like take a year off like do whatever and of course I found this acting class I'm like I want to be an actor so you know but they they were somehow supportive they shockingly because I didn't think they would be right my dad being a doctor and whatnot so I was gonna say because i remember pepperdine when i was picking schools i remember looking it up because i was like so fascinated with california and i look up pepperdine i'm like this looks like the most magical place on earth yeah and then i was reading and my mom was like sweetie you can't drink if you go to the school why am i bringing that up to you i don't know didn't know that by the way till i got there i didn't know how strict it was we got there i'm like guess i'm joining a fraternity which i didn't necessarily want to do but yeah that is like notoriously one of the strictest schools like you can't drink oh yeah you can't have co-ed past like 11 o'clock p.m you can't have any girl in your room vice versa yeah did you do anything that like broke the rules your freshman year oh yeah we did yeah quite a bit somehow yeah we could have gotten a lot of trouble actually i think we like skinny dipped in like the president's like pool or something crazy while he was not there like something crazy yeah yeah yeah yeah so you had a good time story i love it we had a good time yeah yeah they're not gonna invite you back no that was like a one-time thing but it was like we kind of like found like i met some really actually three of my best friends they ended up all being from texas and they were like from were from Austin and one was from Amarillo, Texas. And somehow we became instant good friends.
Yeah, yeah. It's so fascinating to think about you in college doing one year and then dropping out and going to Gossip Girl.
Do you think that anyone in your hometown was surprised to see that success? Or was everyone like, oh, it's Chase? Guaranteed they were so all, everyone was probably super left field surprised. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They had no clue you'd be doing that. No, I never wanted to be an actor.
And I also wasn't that guy. I wasn't like Johnny, like, you know, heartthrob on the TV show.
I just wasn't. Right.
I mean, I was a late bloomer. By the time I was 21, I kind of started to come more into my own, right? Have, confidence.
Confidence. Did you have random people reach out? I feel like all those people start kind of crawling.
No, it does happen. Yeah.
I mean, you probably speak to that. Yeah.
It's weird. Certain things happen.
People act weird around that kind of stuff. You're like, wait a second.
We did go to high school together and you never talked to me. Why are you texting me? Yeah.
How do you actually have my number? Yeah, there was that a little bit, actually. Isn't that weird? Yeah, it was weird.
It was weird. Yeah.
When did it get like really big? After season one, it kind of just popped, right? I remember the fall of 2007, like right when it started airing, it became big like right away. Yeah, it was really insane.
Do you have a moment that you remember that you were like oh my god my life has like forever changed oh i don't really i guess there wasn't that one moment there was me and me and ed westwick who played uh chuck on the show yes you know he was like 18 year old kid from like outside of london he thought he was like pete pete doherty right love obsessed and we i'm from texas like i was just in college i didn't know how expensive new york is it was insane i'm like why my dad had to like give us the like security deposit in first month's and last month's rent until we got our first paycheck it was like hilarious so i'm like my ed you want to like room together like this is crazy like this rents i'm looking at this is he's like oh yeah sure man you know he had no idea and i and we had and like first summer we like moving in july like probably just turned 21 or 22 and we were like the summer series in central park i don't know if you remember any of that but they had like big concerts out there and it was like the black keys arctic monkeys i might be dating myself but it was awesome it's awesome sun's out beers and the show hadn't even come out we shot the pilot we just moved there and we're having a blast just him and i just exploring the city and these girls did come up to us and it was kind of freaked us out a little bit because we didn't know and he kind of looked at me he's like i think we're fucked mate he's like show hasn't even come out yet man he's like this whole thing and uh that was that that moment is pretty crystallized in my mind because it was all like the black keys were playing it was just like you're just being like normal dudes like sitting chilling and then it's like hello that was the very first time i think anyone ever asked for any type of picture so that was that i do remember that as being like a defining like oh we interesting that's a weird feeling as it like really started to pop off like how did you initially handle that like fame and attention? Not well. Actually, not well.
It kind of made me paranoid, to be honest. Really? Slightly.
I don't want to say it was like this terrible thing. It was fun.
It was fun. But like you said, people come out of the woodwork.
People start acting weird around fame. And you start realizing all these things that you can only realize from that scene.
But I mean, I don't want to act like it was this thing it was we had a blast for me it was all about having fun like i had so much fun but it was um you just are always kind of like you can't like you kind of aren't present all the time like you kind of just kind of like unwary about people or phones like a little bit like not you know i think that's okay to say like and i get what you're saying like that doesn't mean you're not so grateful for everything that came right but it's like a very odd experience as a human being to be like oh all those people are staring at me right now and watching me and they know who i am and i have no idea who these people are they think they know you right like you're like i'm not nate archibald as much as you want me to be i am not my name is chase i'm from texas yeah yeah yeah yeah and new york's interesting because it's like all you get all this influx of people and tourists and you're not only you're you're that character in that city so it's like mickey mouse in disneyland they all want to see like take a photo with like mickey so you feel like they just come up and hug you and it's like you're in this costume it's just kind of funny weird can we talk about that for a minute because i didn't even think about that most shows that are like even movies if they're like set in new york spoiler they're not fucking shot in new york most of them are shot in canada toronto toronto yes and you guys actually were living breathing filming shooting in new york city the show was set in new york city so like you're walking then to get breakfast and you're not working but you're like walking wherever you're walking and someone sees you like were people calling you Nate on the street all the time that was it that was always it was always the character's name yeah yeah yeah it was crazy and also fun but like it was it blurs the lines a lot you know and and uh it was just weird it like a really weird, like if we were shooting exactly in Toronto, it's a different thing, but people are visiting New York and it was its own character in the show, you

know, and people are like, you know, fans of the show.

And when they see you actually in that environment, it's like this whole, like their mind is blown,

you know?

So it was a doubly interesting thing.

And it's also weird to be in New York city as you, like, I think it's interesting because i just asked you at the beginning of this like oh could you relate to anything you're from texas this character and you're like no and then all of a sudden you went from not being able to relate to anything about this character to like you almost were becoming a part of this character was it was getting meta yeah it was right like that yeah yeah you're like i live in new york city i am getting paparazzi people want to know who i'm dating and so i started off being like i can't relate to this fucking kid at all and now it's like yeah yeah and i think it was like like perez hilton or whatever the gossip girly thing was at that time was really i always thought it was like funny stuff but it was the same thing happening you know what i mean and and i thought i wouldn't even like new york i visited in like high school. And of course, we went to all the touristy, awful spots.
Awful. And I was there for a month.
I'm like, oh, God, I love this place. I fucking love it.
I fucking love this place. But that's the thing about New York.
Don't you feel like when you visit New York, it's so overwhelming. You get sent to the touristy spots where you're like, Times Square.
And it's like all the places that if you live there, you would never go. Then when you live there, you like find the pockets and you're like, this is the best place.

This is the best place ever.

Yeah.

We kind of had the keys to the city.

And it's like your 20s in New York, as you know, it's just there's nothing better.

So it was like, it was so great.

So you're friends with Ed.

You guys live together.

Like I'm obsessed that you guys were roommates.

I didn't know that until I was like doing research for this where I'm like, I didn't know you guys fucking live together.

That's epic.

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What was Ed's best and worst quality as a roommate?

Oh, God.

He had a lot of bad ones, let me tell you that much.

We lived in this little apartment.

I think it was like a, they call it like a junior one,

where there was like a real bedroom.

Right. And then there was like an office you could put in a closed wall.
And I was like, well, just switch. And I'll pay a little bit more.
Of course we never switch. And I'm glad we did because Ed's room was like, you know, it was like a lunch pail with like overflowing cigarettes.
And like, I mean, you thought like the Joker lived there. It was insane.
I'm not even kidding. I shouldn't be calling him out like this, but I love it.
I love it. But he's 19.
I'm 21. Like, you know, and he was just messy.
I'm kidding I should be calling him out like this but I love it I love it but he's 8 19 I'm 21 like you know and and uh he was just messy I'm a little OC I mean I'm not OC I'm like a little bit on that side of like I need things put in the right place and stuff so oh so him he's literally like an ashtray walking around you're like clean up clean up clean up like shoving the stuff in his room shoving the door and like and then it was like and he's you know at the time like ripping cigs i was like stop that you know so that was probably i didn't like the cigs but we had an absolute blast in that place we had like a roof dot roof deck yeah we have to go down the elevator and to the thing but no one was ever up there on like 26th and 10th or 11th and and uh what is that like it was just like it's not midtown built Chelsea, I guess, yeah yeah yeah but it was kind of close to the water had like this amazing view on this roof deck and we just called it roof deck and he would like invite a bunch of people we bring a bow speaker and some like you know big bottle of vodka whatever and just like have like a party up there all the time okay first of all to think about the two of you throwing a party on your roof deck,

what was the difference between Chase and Ed's parties versus Nate and Chuck's parties?

Not much except the money involved.

We didn't put much money behind ours.

We weren't making quite that.

I know I ended up being like the president of the world at the end of the show but it was ridiculous and he was owning hotel chains but uh his was very much skewed more like like british underground rock scene you know and i had like like the beers going and but they did turn out to be pretty like fun kind of well-known parties like people would like show up from all over the place and like wait all the city i mean is it true that you lived in the same building as the chain smokers oh it's a great story yeah no next door actually jessica zorro i love the desk she's getting married in august and i can't wait to see her she played vanessa on the show and we'd all all hang out and then she'd be like guys and and she she lived in 555 we were like 535 so it was she was literally we were next next door. And she'd always be like, my roommate, this guy down the hall.
Alex plays like. What is this accent you're doing? I'm trying to do a Wisconsin accent.
It's terrible. It's terrible.
Wait, is she the one you have the dog with? She's from Wisconsin. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, my God. I was like, this is too full circle.
No, no. We've all been like great friends.
This is your Wisconsin? Do that again. No, she's like from Wisconsinisconsin she's it's terrible i can't do it wisconsin do it do it she's like guys alec my friend alex is is playing um oh my god he's he's like a dj and then it's terrible she's literally gonna call you and be like why did you sit why did you act like i speak like that on that show i love her too but she'd be like yo and it was be like, yo.
And it was like 3 in the morning. I mean, New York goes very late.
So we'd be out. She'd be like, come back over.
We're going to go to Alex's house. Our apartment.
It's only a house, like a little tiny apartment. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was Alex from Chainsmokers. And he just liked playing.
I love him. He's the best.
I still see him out and about. And we would just sit there and rip and just chop like chop it up talking.
And he's like DJing, playing music. And yeah.
What a small world. That's crazy to think that like you guys as like young guys and because they weren't even formed yet, were they? No, they weren't.
They weren't. Because he hadn't met Drew yet.
Exactly. He hadn't met Drew yet.
That's right. So I think there was someone else involved.
But he hadn't met Drew. And our mutual friend with Jessica was this guy,ica was this guy will malnati is still my best friend i met him through her but he worked in nightclubs kind of or hospitality right so alex was like hey can you get me into these places and he did well i hooked him up and got him into these like damn clips of dj and stuff like that so yeah they're the best yeah yeah they're so fun i had them on and i was like that was right you did have them on yes i won't ask if you and um ed have had a threesome together but i did ask them that what'd they say what was their answer absolutely they literally go uh which which one and we were like i was like what and they're like which time and i was like i don't know i don't know tell me about them all and alex at the time was like stop drew and drew was like okay so the first time i'm like oh my god okay this is quite fun yeah um who would you guys invite to these parties because at the time were you like hanging out with industry people were you meeting like chicks at like nyu um sometimes yeah like so i i don't know exactly who would we bring up there we'd bring good friends but then sometimes they'd get really out of hand and it'd be like you know like it'd be insane i remember one time i went this is very like a 2000 early 2000 story but like we would have you know it got a lot of hand but that but the doorman loved us and they would like kind of let us do anything they would just say like do this or that don't do that uh and so he called i think a doorman called me he's like yo there's you gotta come down there's some commotion going on down here and i'm like what's going on and i go down the elevator and you could see you could see like all the way down and there was just floor to ceiling windows at the front of the building right and i look and it was like lindsey lohan and sam ronson they were dating at the time it's very 2000 we're like walking down and there was just a wall of photographers in the window.
I was like, made it did they ever come up of course they came up and it was great and i think we had met before kind of and they're amazing like sam's great and i haven't seen them in ages but like they came up and it was like a very early 2000s these are the details we needed chase yeah these stories i haven't ever told and then and then and then uh we like you know, raged up there. Did Paris ever come to a party? She did not.
But I saw Paris recently, actually. Really? And I did at this like fancy, you know, some Oscar thing.
And she said, hey, I went up to her and said, hey. And I'm like, you remember the first time you ever met, we ever met, right? And she was she said I think so and I was like I was in college I hadn't done anything yet acting wise but I was living I just moved to LA my sister was in town with a buddy and we were at like Teddy's that nightclub back in the day which was like the best and I was like you were so nice to us you hung out with us and invited us to your birthday party and we all went and it was amazing and she was like no way and I'm like yes she's and like, you were so nice to us.
You hung out with us and invited us to your birthday party. And we all went and it was amazing.
And she was like, no way. And I'm like, yes.
She's literally like, I don't remember this at all. She doesn't remember any of it.
I think she acted like this. She's amazing.
And so I always, we always say what's up when I see her. But that was like my other, you know, early 2000s story.
I'm obsessed because you, Paris is like the nicest fucking human. The nicest.
When you meet her, you're like, oh my God, you're even better in person. Like, she's lovely.
But I love how like for Paris, like that probably meant like nothing at the time to her. She's like got Leo at her parties and she's got everyone.
And she's like, oh my God. And meanwhile, you're like, my life is made.
My sister was in like college. I was like barely out of college.
I'm like, you know. Are you fucking kidding me? She invites us to her birthday, but she's being so nice.
I'm like, yeah go like it was great at her house it was a blast like it was really really cool like that is fucking epic 2005 or 6 probably who knows did any of your rooftop parties ever get shut down they never did actually they never did there was no one really like the noise didn't travel because it was so that's the that's you being having it in with like the doorman yeah yeah yeah but no one ever used it either like it was really wild i don't know how we got to have a rooftop yeah and to have a one junior suite thing that's like a one bedroom yeah that's pretty insane that's a great little gig it's a great deal for me i got the main room so yeah sorry okay what would he say your worst quality as a roommate is oh oh I don't know what he would say what would he say my worst quality would be probably probably falling asleep so easily when he was like trying to tell a story we'd be watching like just like CDs of Entourage just playing and he was like look at that and I'd be like passed out but like I don't know what my worst quality was I was a great I'm a great roommate I'll never have another roommate so help me god I need to have Ed on now and he watch him be like come with a list yeah yeah number one no it seems like if you're the one that's like cleaner like you're maybe he'd be like he was annoying as shit he was constantly cleaning my shit like leave my shit alone yeah when I when I had to like move out I think he was like heartbroken I think he was a little bit mad at me actually built and made after like two years i'm like all right buddy like i need my own worst success with the show's gone we gotta like just i love to have our own place and he stayed in that place and like knocked the wall down and like made it his own he did yeah with like an axe he like knocked his little wall down it was very dramatic yeah wait were you like are you insane that you're staying uh a little bit yeah yeah actually yeah bro we got the paycheck like we got the thing yeah it was like two two years we had two good years right look let's go um okay have you ever hooking up with a co-star it's just that's such a night you just did it so you know and then you go for the water so casually acting like i'm gonna forget what i just asked hoping i'll go on to a next question yeah listen i i would say um i would say those things are inevitable uh you know when you're in your 20s like or whatever could be for anything like workplace but but you know the thing is the The thing is, you're're on these things it's not like people would probably think it's like these sexy scenes or whatever that kind of it's like that's like the worst part of it it's like 60 people watching it's like the downtime you're doing this show you're on set for like 12 14 hours a day and usually there's some pretty interesting different people from all walks of life and and the danger is the danger is if you have if you connect right away with like sense of humor at least for me like if you have a good if you like have like have a rapport and can like kind of banter and give each other shit yeah for me i'm like oh i gotta like watch out watch it for myself so i'm like i'm gonna like start well you know liking them yeah well and i bet it's like yeah that's a good point you're spending so much time with these people that obviously the minute if you're like emotionally connecting with someone that can be your person like while you're like sitting in between scenes like you start to just get closer and then naturally okay so you're gonna leave it to all of us to guess who it was i can't i mean listen i've done like other shows and stuff but but yeah you know it's oh yeah but like i love how you had to take a pause take a sip of water and you got really centered with yourself and then you like made eye contact with me and you gave me the most perfect PR answer like sometimes when things get heated and the emotions are there it's inevitable but you know we've all moved on no it's fine it's fine um Did you ever know if co-stars at the time were, like, hooking up and then you, like, kept their secret for them? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
And by the way, there's a lot of, like, actors and people coming on to the show. So they're, like, over the years.
And then I had, I was fortunate enough to have, like, friends in the city. There were actors, but they were outside the show.
And I had a really good, like, friend group. And then then like they everyone else has their little friend group and so you know you meet people in those in that wider circle it's not just like you know that tiny little like circle everyone's like putting a map together like so you know it's a lot of people involved uh but you know again it was like our college experience you know exactly one year at pepperdine three years at Gossip Girl University can I ask though if you weren't dating let's say someone in your cast what was your dating life like during Gossip Girl because now you're famous people know you you're in a city yeah what was it like it was I mean in the sense of like dating life it was kind of non-existent I didn't really like I was never like doing the well I never liked doing like the interview, like sit down, like go on dates.
It was, I mean, in the sense of like dating life, it was kind of non-existent. I didn't really like, I was never like doing the, well, I never liked doing like the interview, like sit down, like go on dates.
It was like, I was meeting a lot of people out all the time. And it was very like, it was very much like meet people through your friends.
And like, for me, I guess it was, I don't know, I guess it was experience based. Like you kind of do something or you go off and meet people through a crazy experience.
I would kind of connect with them and then we would date. And you're so young.
Like being 22, 23 in New York City, like at that point, I'm assuming you were not looking for a relationship. Like you're having fun.
You're meeting people. You're hooking up.
You're going to work. Like you're starting to make your first real.
Right, yeah. Fun.
Yeah, yeah. It was a lot of fun.
Yeah, we had a lot of fun. And in high school, I kind of had one girlfriend.
And it was very kind of that thing. And so I was kind of, you know, wanted to just have fun.
Okay, how did you feel when we found out that Dan was fucking Gossip Girl? I felt happy that it wasn't me. I was just really happy that it wasn't Nate.
Because then they told me they were probably they were thinking about i'm like why would it even be me i'm like your character was like too like laissez-faire like you wouldn't have time to like get on your computer and type away no yeah he's in politics now he's a senator now right yeah he's like 26 year old senator so yeah i kind of always thought of nate as just kind of like go with the flow like although i hate when you hooked up with that older woman I didn't like like that era yeah I didn't love that and but I liked when you and Serena were together yeah yeah the white party the kiss to make everyone jealous yeah yeah you're a fan I love it okay you know you don't even want to know how much of a fan I am when it ends I think I've talked a lot about with people when they're actors of like understandably there's this fan base that is like don't, don't you fucking dare say you weren't sad to see it end. But most people are like, I got to move on with my fucking life.
It's time to go. Like, right.
How did you feel when it all was ending? Were you like, let's fucking go? I or tears. I had I went through like a major depression.
I feel like looking back. Not really.
But I, I wasn't I wasn't like prepared for it to end i guess i thought i was but but it was more like new york it was it's your family it's like you wake up and you and even the drivers like you you know what i mean it's like the hair makeup girls like they're they're awesome and that's your whole day that's like your whole identity like you know it's like a young i was ready for it to be done but um i mean me and ed would talk about all the time it's like this is it's the greatest job we'll ever have. It was easy.
It was an easy thing. It was fun.
We would laugh about that. More I was just mad.
I guess I got to go back to L.A. You're like, I really liked it in New York.
I liked it in New York. I should have stayed for a little bit.
Why didn't you? I don't know. In hindsight, with real estate, I should have just bought in a place and kept it.
What was I thinking? You should have gone back and gotten the place that Ed had been renting out and bought a whole floor and renovated the whole thing. Diffumigated the whole thing.
Yeah. But you went back to LA.
I went back to LA. Yes.
Yes. So talk to me your state of depression, I can imagine it's like kind of an identity crisis, right?

It was.

Yeah.

It was an identity crisis.

Yeah.

It was just a weird, it was a weird thing.

It was just, it didn't last very long, but it was like a few months of like, it was just

a daunting thing of like, there's auditions now and like going back and how do I, and

you're putting a box a little bit, you know what I mean?

You're kind of the guy that a CW show who looks a certain way.

It's definitely like, okay, I gotta, I gotta find something to kind of break out of that. So there was, there was that.
Yeah. And I feel like also, I mean, wait, how long was gossip girl? How many years? Six years.
Yeah. Six years.
That's like a long ass time to be in something like at what, like towards the end of the last year, you guys knew it was ending, right? Yeah. Yeah.
We knew. Yeah.
But you still have to start to, it doesn't probably feel real until it's over and it's almost like a college experience plus more to be with people and then like do you keep in touch with anyone kind of you know how it goes i mean yeah like i yeah we're on texts sometimes and like you make loose plans and then yeah pen texted me out of the blue the other day actually because he was shooting I think his final season of You in our old sound stages. So he was like texting me.
We're kind of like catching up. That's sweet.
So I'll see Penn every now and again and Leighton in town and Blake's like I think in Westchester. We'll text sometimes actually.
And I saw Ed in Europe recently kind of briefly. That's awesome.
That's awesome. So yeah, yeah.
But it was like the material. I was really ready to move on to different material yeah in a different role but like new york i guess i wasn't really ready to leave new york do you think you'd ever go back i'm kind of too old i mean i i i think the way to do it is to have one in both i know a good place there at all i i have thought about it but yeah it's weird because like you're right you hit a certain point where like new york is so beautiful when you're in your 20s and it's even when i look back like i had the like this shitty ass apartment where there were like fucking rats and i had i had the ed room where like my two roommates got to have like the normal rooms and then we like there was like a built wall for me and i'm like just putting a mattress and i could barely fit and it was some of the best years of my life totally but now when i think about going back to new york like i like like a backyard and like being relaxed and like not having to like walk outside and get like hit in the head and like push to the ground and like screaming people i'm like yeah i like to go for a trip and then get the fuck out totally Totally, yes.
You know? And the winters are kind of brutal, right?

I like my car.

I like to go to the grocery store with my dog and cook and have space.

Yes, the dog.

Spoiled with the sun now, too.

The ex-girlfriend with the dog.

Still not over that.

Let's talk about your love life.

Yeah.

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Let's talk about your love life. Yeah.
Are you in a relationship? No, it's a dumpster fire. It's all dumpster fire.
What's going on? What is your time? 2024. It's just, this is things, times are tough out there.
It is fucking tough. It is tough.
Okay. What's going on? You're very single.
Are you going on any dates? What are we doing? i joined raya like a week ago how's it going terribly it's really no it's scary i i actually like am i gonna get am i gonna get kicked off i actually enjoy it i oh really no no i actually enjoy it because like people everyone told me not to do it and so i had like think i had a few drinks and like one night i'm doing it and i just did it i'm like this is great uh i haven't been on one date no don't don't get me wrong i'm like haven't engaged at all i'm a total i'm a creeper face like figuring this thing out what is this thing it's uh have you done it any of the apps oh my god yes i was on raya but the problem for like a lot of i feel like the women is like the guys are very i don't know like a lot of them are djs And, I don't know, like a lot of them are DJs. Okay.
I'm not looking for like, I wasn't looking for a spin the beats guy. Right.
A lot of them like lived in Australia or it would be like UK. And I'm like, can I set my settings closer? Like I don't want to go on my first date across the fucking world.
Yes. So it was a little bit of like a proximity thing, a little bit of like a intimidation thing too, because like the other dating apps is like, oh, this is like a nice normal person.
This is like, who are you? And like, what do you do for a living? And like everyone's net worth it. And you're like, I'm just, it's overwhelming.
So I could see why you like have a hard time getting off the app for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's definitely weird. And I definitely have no expectation.
I'm not like, I don't even know really what I want. I'm just trying to, you know, it's just like another avenue to maybe meet somebody.
Right. But yeah, the only connection I've had is like, oh, cool.
Oh, Indonesia. Like, wow.
Yeah. Okay, great.
What am I? We're going to go to Bali. Never.
Okay. Weird.
I remember there was this one guy that I remember I like randomly matched with. And I think he was on like, he was on, what was it called? Oh, Vampire Diaries.
and I remember being like randomly matched with and i think he was on like he was a he no he was on what was it called oh vampire diaries and i remember being like i'm a big fan of vampire diaries and so i'm like oh and it's like he's shooting in toronto and i was like well i live in new york city and like yeah but you're still like am i getting on a plane to see this man? Yes. No.

Yes. No.
You're like, yeah, no. Maybe.
But yeah, barrier to entry. I'm like, you ever in New York? He's like, you ever in Toronto? I'm like, no.
Unmatched. Bye.
But I'll watch next season. Yeah.
Great talking about you. It sucks.
It sucks. You're going to figure it out.
I know you're going to figure it out. Do you consider yourself a romantic? I do a little bit.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, what would you consider romantic? I think someone that like when you're in a relationship you're like very like you like to set it up for this like very romantic setting of like you're not just like do like walking through the process it's like candles and roses and you want to like make time together and you're very like i don't know sweet and cute and yeah i think Yeah, I think, I think, I think I would... Just say yes.
I am. I'm not, I like to cook.
So I do like to cook for girls. I like to, and I'm a homebody.
So I like to, when I'm in it, I do. I really do like to focus and like do the thing and like be very thoughtful.
I feel like I'm a thoughtful person. So yeah.
How are your first dates? Are you good at first dates? Bad at first dates? I think I'm okay. Okay.
I mean, everyone, they're awful though, right? Horrible. But it's like I've generally met people through friends of friends or through kind of indirect ways.
Yep. So the first dates are always like interview process, campaigning, you know what I mean? But when you know, you know, kind of like right away.
I can still get through a first date that's like, you know, it's like, okay, we're going to be friends maybe. That's a good point.
I feel like first dates, you know kind of like right away i could still get through a first date that's like you well you don't you know it's like okay we're gonna be friends maybe but that's a good point i feel like first dates you know that you like the person if it feels less like an interview and you're like oh we're making like headway like no first date is gonna be like this is like the fucking best thing ever like i would hope there's room to grow and get better but some first dates you're like 10 minutes in and i'm like i gotta fucking go yeah and then it becomes i've definitely been awkward on first date do you just say the whole time yeah i you know you can't wait what are you gonna do ghost out the back i like like oh i left my keys and no that would be fucked and then someone would like write online about you being like he's the biggest fucking douche like what the fuck if people do that though i've had friend buddies that like girls just leave yeah well because a part of it like, you could be respectful and be like, I literally, I know this is not right. Let's just like not waste each other's time.
But some people would be like, you fucking piece of shit. Yeah.
Fuck you. And then you're like, oh, I don't want to be a dick.
Yeah. Have you been in love before? Absolutely.
Yeah. Oh, how many times? That's a good question.
Probably at least two. At least two.
Because have you had had those where you're like was that love or it was love in the moment but now that i've grown up maybe you like redefine it a little bit right one was pretty instantaneous and then another one was over time over time so i've kind of experienced both and i don't really subscribe to the idea that there's like one soul mate for you i think there's a handful maybe uh however you want to it's definitely once in a blue moon that you meet very rarely you're going to meet someone that you really connect with and what you do with that you know is is a timing thing and then maybe you know it can it can work out or it doesn't um but we all have those things that might not have closure you know what i mean and that's okay it's you don't have to have like closure but there's those open-ended things you think like maybe if i'd been more evolved or like i'd been like five five years older or a different place in my life there's a few times where i definitely not regret but i'm like i wish i'd been a different place in my life that is interesting where you like oh that's such a good point where you like look back at it and you recognize who you were compared to who you are in the reflection stage where you're like, oh, my God, imagine how different I would have been even if I was me in that relationship now.

Right. You probably would have been fucking prospering and happy.

Amazing.

Yeah, I could have had it all.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like Peaky Blinders.

No.

But yeah, I've like been and I'm like, God, I was such a head case back then. Why couldn't I have like just like not been an asshole? You know, when I was doing my own stuff.
Like I was just, you know, whatever you want to call it, mental health stuff. It was just like I was in a bad place and not dealing with it.
You know what I mean? I was like just avoiding everything. Oh, and that's a really interesting topic because that means you're growing, obviously.
Right think that when you have your own shit going on there's no fucking way that you can be like 100 present for a partner that's hard to do even when you're in a fucking healthy relationship of course exactly like when i moved back from new york and i was in that kind of funk i met a girl who was like incredible and went on to be very very successful very successful but is that

the one with the dog no i'm trying to figure out who the fuck is the one with the dog it's a girl i worked with on a on a it was a bad tv show but it was like in in 2015 maybe or something okay so we're still good friends she's great she's a very great shout out yeah and uh but we both travel so we both have to do with the dog i'm defending myself no it's okay it's okay i'm just fascinated like oh how would that work it works it can work i'm telling you oh but so you you kind of fell for a girl after that like weird moment and then it just didn't work because you weren't in a good headspace she wasn't in a good space and i just kind of let it slide i let it kind of float away and she was like we'd be in town and reaching out and we kind of had it you know hooked i had a thing in New York when we're both there and then and then um yeah I just I think about some of those things like if I just been in a different you can't help that though you're you're you're you get what you get and it's a timey thing and it's just life but I do think about those of course kind of missed moments from time to time but I think it also allows you like into going into this next chapter of like whoever you're gonna find like that allows that allows you then to like reflect and be like, I know I'm not going to do that. I'm going to be more present.
Like whatever you know you fucked up on, then you take that and like move on. No, totally.
Yes. How long has been your like longest relationship? About three, four years.
Okay. Probably.
Yeah. Yeah.
What are the top like three qualities right now that you'd be saying you're looking in for a partner?

We can put this on your Raya profile too.

Just clip this and put this in your Raya profile.

It's very sparse, my Raya profile.

I think every photo is cut off.

I'm like eyeball.

I'm like, I'm not screwing with it.

I don't even care.

I'm like, whatever.

You know what I mean?

It's just like picture of dog, dog, dog, half face.

It's out there in the world.

It is.

No, it is. It's half my dog's face and half my face and one one shot yeah it's great right because you're hoping they like won't fully notice you and then they just click so like the dog is nice or something and it's not like i get it i get it it's not a signed headshot or anything but you know but uh no i i um things i look for i guess for me, I do, I am like a closet reader and

like kind of a nerd.

I do like to be able to have like kind of, you know, in the, you know, in depth conversation,

uh, sense of humor is kind of a big one for me.

Like, and you know, and that's kind of an umbrella thing, right?

That if, if they have that wit and you kind of have that back and forth and that weird,

that weird connection, you know, where you can make each other laugh and that's an umbrella,

like personality wit intelligence thing. It's like, if that, that's kind of the number one thing, you know where you can make each other laugh yeah and that's an umbrella like personality wit intelligence thing it's like if that that's kind of the number one thing yeah you know do you care if they're in the industry i'd prefer not actually at this stage in my life right yeah i mean i think it's that's part of the reason i was like my i saw my buddies on dates with these like med students and neuroscientists i'm like, where is it? They're like, Raya.
I'm like, okay. There really are.
I have seen so far. I'm like, a weekend.
There are other people that do other things. I'm trying to.
It's such a bubble out here. You know what I mean? It's a lot.
You're like, I want that doctor, that nurse, the dentist. What about a therapist? Yeah, probably, yes.
I would love it, yeah. I see psychotherapists on there sometimes.
I'm like, perfect. Oh, there you go.
Save some money, yes. You can switch therapists right now.
Right now to my girlfriend. What's a deal breaker for you? Deal breaker? Oh, man.
Oh, bad tats. I don't know.
Bad tats. Like how bad? Like what have you seen that you haven't liked? I don't know.
You know, that's a stupid one. Because I really don't care about that.
I'm obsessed. Maybe like a neck tats probably, like a deal breaker.
You know, I guess a neck tat. You're not loving the neck tats.
Have you gone on a date recently? I haven't. That's the thing.
It's actually never happened. Where did that come from? I don't know.
He's like picturing your face and you're like, just if there's a neck tat. Okay, no neck tats.
You know, tattoos are so ubiquitous. But like, they're not bad.
It uh it's okay a neck tat we're moving on punctuality too okay that's really switching gears you are really on time you were early i'm like a little bit early embarrassingly yeah you're like at the door like yeah hi ready to go it's like an anxiety thing i like if i'm running late it's it's over i can't i hate being late down you know yeah oh i've had people so fucking late for the show so i appreciate that you're early i'm like let's get it going so thank you thank you have you ever been cheated on once kind of not really i think so we had like plans like holiday plans and like moving into the next phase of the relationship And she abruptly broke up with me. And then I found out that it was like she was there was like an opportunity for someone like a famous person, a really famous person, like Uber.
And then she thought that they were going to date and that didn't happen. But you're like, but yeah, but but that was the only closest thing.
Yeah. To that.
That sucked. Oh, that's sad.
But then you know. From my perspective.
It was like, I have perspective on that. So I was like, okay, whatever.
Well, and I think it also tells you something about that person. Totally.
No, it actually helped. It actually kind of helped.
Where you're like, oh, you were basically with me. I was like, ooh, I didn't see that coming.
Like, that's a very interesting thing to know. But that can hurt if she goes from, like, you to Brad.
Yeah, yeah. You like i get it but it also indicates like what you're looking for right right right okay right okay um have you ever gone through a partner's phone i have not no i'm actually very i have like almost the opposite of trust i'm almost like too trusting people yeah i'm like just go do your own thing like i need my own space I'm actually very, I have like almost the opposite of trust.
I'm almost like too trusting of people. Yeah, I'm like, just go do your own thing.
I need my own space. I'm great.
She's like fully cheating on you. Girls night, go to Mexico.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go have fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever walked in on someone going through your phone? Someone did go through my phone once.
It was bad. Did you walk in on them going through it? No, I woke up in the middle of the night to them freaking out.
No. Yeah.
I mean, listen. If you're going to – listen, okay.
We love this on Color Daddy. If you're going to go through anybody's phone, you're going to find something that you don't like.
Totally. Even like a text with their mother.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to find something you don't like.
So – and I will say there was nothing bad. I wasn't cheating or anything.
But, you know, it was not fun i was very felt violated but you can't like you know it's like a weird thing oh my god and in the middle of the night that like the ambush of like wake up and you're like yeah yeah yeah it was so stressful you're like you piece of shit yeah yeah and then you're like what's happening and at first you're like someone's coming into the room there's someone in the house what's happening and they're like and then they're like i had your phone oh i'm like oh god i'm like what and then now the first thing i was like wait what'd you what are you talking about right like what did you really don't think i have anything weird in there but yeah it was it was a moment for sure yeah yeah interesting did you stay with the person yeah oh yeah we did yeah we worked at work worked it out yeah how long how much longer did that last uh another year okay and a half okay yeah wow another year and a half did you hear about that incident a lot no I didn't actually I didn't I didn't but I got dragged a couple's therapy so that was which I actually loved I thought you did I didn't like I'll take I didn't love it but I thought it was a good it wasn't what I thought it was gonna be I think it's great very afraid of that I've always been open to therapy I do it now um and I think it's it's like going to the gym right it's like you go to the gym for a certain thing it's a very specific thing people make it this like there's a stigma behind it there's no stigma no relationship is perfect and I actually had a couple therapist on the other week and she was just talking to me about like it's so weird that now we've like normalized therapy but couples therapy yeah yeah yeah it's like what's wrong with you and i'm like who doesn't fight in a relationship who doesn't have problems who doesn't like no relationship is perfect so it's almost like i commend the people that are honest about it like i had said like i went to couples therapy and it was like the best thing for my partner and i where i was like yes i feel so much more aware of where he's coming from because you have a person in the room that like is so unbiased neutral moderator and it's like this time you can you can air out those things safely yeah and it's just about being a fucking adult. Like you learn how to be an adult.
Right. At least for me in this relationship.
And I was like, okay. And it was very nice.
You know, when you're doing it, it's like going to the dentist kind of. You don't want to do it.
But it's, you know, it's like you do it and it was a really great thing. Yeah.
So, yeah. Okay, let's talk about your show.
Obviously, I'm like, we're talking about Gossip Girl. I apologize.
But obviously, we just had to get through the get through the og shit right your show i'm obsessed with the fact that you went from a man who was dressing like this like upper east cider this like kid with a trust fund to a superhero are you loving it like being in the one costume the whole time because i feel like a whole part of gossip girl was your outfits obviously no and now obviously i'm looking at you in the same outfit every scene. I'm like, this is kind of interesting.
Obviously, if people haven't watched The Boys. This is season four? Season four of The Boys.
Yeah, coming out. Tell me about it.
It's great. It's the most fun I've ever had doing anything, really.
Why? I mean, not like, you know, just like work-wise. Like the character, it's comedy.
It's so much fun. Right, right.
We're making fun of like the privileged, you know, male asshole. You know what I mean? Like that guy uh the costume's great because i never have any fittings i don't have to come in and do extra fittings so it's like one little thing costume's a little bit of pain in the ass but it's okay uh but it's great yeah the show's awesome so what happened with the whole dick thing what happened with the whole penis situation i didn't think about that until you started doing it.
I'm know exactly i forgot about that how do we there's a story there tell tell everyone the story which is really funny because it was great press for the show when it first came out because no one knew if the show was going to work but uh but also the creator was like never tell anyone that was never tell anyone the real story that was you you're like really it was me no but this calendar came out right this calendar came out of me and the character and there was this massive uh rocket in the suit and they made this calendar and it was really funny and very in character too but no one knew it's a satire of a show i don't know people are seeing this like what is this seth rogan and evan gober produce it they're they're amazing and they thought it would be really funny in the the Genesis we hadn't even filmed anything we were doing the suits that what if the deep just had like a raging erection in like a third of the scenes I thought it was brilliant I'm like that's great it's hilarious so then the fittings I started showing up when they had a box the character's name is the deep they had a box called little deeps and it was like all these different foam like pieces all different types i'm obsessed settle on one i'm walking around oh no first we did so that's what happened we did a big we did all these like screen test camera camera shoots photo shoots with this thing yes so we hadn't actually shot amazon hasn't really even seen anything my first day on set it's like a big toronto big big stage i'm in front of like 2,000 people. I come out.
I'm introducing Aaron Moriarty's character. And everyone just starts laughing because it's so funny.
The light, you can really see the scene. Were you at all anxious about it or you thought it was hilarious? I thought it was hilarious.
I wasn't anxious about it. I kind of thought, though, I'm like, guys, we got to remove it sometimes, right? It can't be in there forever.
It looks ridiculous. It's so obvious.
It's's so funny it's so funny and so i'm like and literally they didn't amazon gave us no notes they let's do whatever the only note first note was like you gotta take that thing out of deep's pants you gotta take that thing out so they actually spent so much money frame by frame editing out that scene just in that area for that scene in the pilot's first episode everyone forgot that we did all these so so whoever thought in the pr thought it'd be funny to make a calendar out of it was was was genius but i'm obsessed but the calendar came out and then people didn't know what they had no idea what i mean you're right it was great pr because like everyone was talking about it it was like oh my god look at this penis like what is happening with this like big schlong like kind of looks real i mean it looks very real you never think it'd be like a fake absolutely boner calendar i mean you know it was great so you're loving it you're having a good time loving it yeah yeah still loving it so what was that audition process like it was complete opposite of gossip girl it was like christmas time they were like we gotta we gotta cast the superheroes and the superheroes are the bad guys for no one's watched the show it's like the satire because they said they had to make the suits anyway I'm like there's no way that uh they're not gonna like bring people back in the new year like it's dead dead zone is December like even like Thanksgiving through my god do I really gotta go in for this audition I love the material I'm like this is amazing get there it's complete opposite I'm like very annoyed i'm like last right you like don't think you're getting it there's a ton of actors in there well it's just like a cow it's like a lot of actors audition and they audition everyone no matter who you were uh but i went in there and felt really good about the audition i felt i had the creator laughing and the scenes were funny kind of felt like i nailed it and then they're like oh we want to test him or whatever like the day after and i'm like perfect great so we'll go back in for like round three four five like in the new year and she's like no they're just going to use that that tape you just did and i was like well do i need to do it better like can i make some changes and i got nervous because i'm like they're like no they're just going to play it in front of all the amazon sony people and i'm like that's how it works it works these days. And I'm like, I have been out of the game.
But they, and that's what happened. It was like very quick.
They kind of did the deal and they did it. It was between me and I think some other person.
And then we, and then they, and then, yeah, I had the job like before Christmas. I was like, wow, this is awesome.
I don't have to go through like a month of like pulling my, pulling my hair out. Right.
Like it was one and done. Yeah.
Yeah. Cause then the longer you go, the more you want the job.
If you like it, you're like're like i want this thing and i'm like used to completely waking up like what if i get this job so yeah it was a very quick like week-long process well it's fun to see you obviously like back on screen and i feel like you yeah your character is like quite hilarious like it's so funny to see you in such a different light obviously because of like Girl OGs that like will follow you to whatever you do. It's such a departure from that that I kind of love that, though.
I think you needed to do that. I need to do that.
Yeah. I think I still need to do it even more.
But I like that it was a complete shake up and a complete. Yeah.
It's a kind of dark comedy. Does some weird stuff in the first episode, but it's like very dark and they give us an opportunity to show some range.
So it's like comedy and some weird like insecurity there. And like it's good to show the color.
What are you doing this summer? I'm not, you know, I got no, I'm going to Tahoe with the family in like July is around my birthday. I do like a 4th of July in Idaho with some friends up there at this place, Gaza or whatever.
And then Tahoe. And then

got no Italy plans. Got no Italy trip

this year. Me either.
I think it's okay.

It's okay. I think it's like

a little... It's okay.
We're over it. It's a lot.

We're over it. It's a lot.
We're like, no.

You guys go do your thing. We'll be here.
No.

I think Italy is amazing. I think

the vibe is to not go in the summer.

I think so too. I think so too.

It's like earlier or late season. Yeah.
And it's probably not as expensive but there's also not as many people there like right it's we're convincing ourselves why it's good that we're not in like coffee we're like it's fine we're going to tahoe okay um okay so you're going on some trips wait i didn't realize your sister's married to tony romo she is yeah that's kind of fun yeah it's great he's awesome we grew up big cow, so that was like a good, really crazy time around life. Do your parents fucking love that? Oh, they love it.
Yeah, they love it. And so he's the one playing in the Tahoe Golf Tournament with some friends.
Fun. And so it's this whole, it's like my dad, for him, it's like better than Christmas.
He loves that little Tahoe trip. Right, right, right.
So yeah, yeah, yeah. We go down there and hang out with the family.
I am so happy that you came on. I think you're such a great, cool guy.
I really had no idea what to expect, if I'm honest. I was like, is he going to be a little stiff? Because I've never really seen you do that many interviews.
Right. You don't do much.
I guess I don't. No.
And not like in a cool, great format, conversational. You're the best.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, this is great. I was really excited about this.
Did you have fun? It was chill. I wish they were all like this, Alex.
Thank you. You're awesome.
Thank you. Thank you for coming on.
This was so fun. Yeah, absolutely.
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Okay, Daddy Gang, I'm about to make you a little cocktail with two of my favorite ingredients. Patron 100% additive free tequila.
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But today we're using our chibiscus. Let's go.
So first we're gonna start with an orange. I am going to cut a slice and we are going to put it at the bottom of the drink so we can get even more of these natural flavors into le drink.
Now, Alex, let's think to ourselves why you don't cook or you never really enter the kitchen. This isn't gonna work.
Let me do that again. Let me cut a little bit of a smaller piece.
So one sec, one sec, one sec. Honestly, it feels right that I get to finally have my Kendall Jenner moment.
I slice my entire hand off. Okay, so I'm gonna put this at the bottom of my cup.
I'm just going to kind of push out the natural flavors, you guys, okay? Because if I'm making you a cocktail, I'm going in. I'm putting the grit in there.
I'm gonna take the peel out, leave a little bit of the juice and the remnants. Let's have a taste.
Yeah, it's delicious. One day I'll be a soccer mom bringing the orange slices.
What is this? Oh, here we go, here we go. This is a better slice.
Okay, anyways, next, ice. I love a cold, cold, cold cocktail.
Here's the thing. I was a bartender, but I never weirdly ended up hooking up with a bartender.
I did hook up with the boss, but that's for another time. Okay, so we're going to do two ounces of Patron Reposado.
We're going to pour this into our cup here. Gorgeous.
And then we are going to add orange hibiscus. Matt and I have been drinking this drink kind of every time before we go out on like a weekend.
Ladies, if you are getting ready and you're going on a first date and you need a good cocktail, this is the go-to. If you're coming home from a date and you're crying your eyes out, this is the cocktail for you.
I'm going to make it gorgeous, girls. Oh, would you just look at that? A cocktail, a stiffy.
Oh my God, that looks so cute. This has been my go-to on date nights before I go out.
We're making this up. I'm drinking it by the pool.
It's about to be summer. Whether you're going on date nights or you're going out with your girls, this is the perfect, perfect cocktail.
I personally love Reposado. Obviously you can switch it up.
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So look how cute. And it's literally so easy.
It's only two ingredients. You also don't need to go get a real orange.
This does the trick ladies. Here's the thing, whenever I come home from work, I'm constantly wanting just like a nice little nightcap.
And I feel like drinking with unwanted hydration, I wake up in the morning and I'm ready for my 8 AM meeting. Nothing can take me down.
Gorgeous. So daddy gang, thank you so much for making this cocktail with Patron and me.
Cheers. Matt's gonna come home and be like, thanks babe.
I'm actually so excited because Matt's about to be home and he's gonna be like, did you do this for me? I'm like, no, it's actually for the daddy gang, but like, yeah, we'll just pretend that I'm being like the sweetest wife being like, babe, you're home. I made you a cocktail.

I'll make him another one.

Come on.

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