CSB345: Businesscucks: Dio's Big Day

Speaker 0 Hello, Wooly.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 How are you doing, man? Doing all right.

Speaker 1 What's that behind you? On your right? Oh, the camera moved over a little bit. It's just, that's

Speaker 1 so it's like, oh, right.

Speaker 1 It's the lighting rig and the TV and the camera thing. It's just everything's shifted a little bit over, whatever.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I was getting underneath everything under there. um

Speaker 1 are you some kind of clown reference this week that i don't get are you oh

Speaker 1 maybe

Speaker 1 maybe i am maybe i am are you

Speaker 1 is that is that another horror movie that i didn't watch is this is this pennywise i don't know i don't i don't watch a lot of horror movies so i don't i don't know

Speaker 1 could you imagine

Speaker 1 bro we me and haig were talking about it she's doing it up and she's doing it up and she's like, what are the fucking odds that this week is the only week of five that he does not say the word juggalo?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think Paige killed it on this one. I think this is by far the best one.
You are ready for the gathering. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 The only thing is, and you're also ready for face scan technology. No one can stop me if I commit a crime.
No one can see my face.

Speaker 1 Which, to anyone who's a little late to the party and doesn't recall the last time it came up, Juggalo makeup is uniquely perfect for the future of face capture and face recognition because

Speaker 1 the machines can't tell where your eyes and features are. It just screws up every line on the face that you would lock onto.
Which, to be like, that's a perfect makeup to start rocking these days.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 I think you,

Speaker 1 I don't know, though, if when it comes to the gathering, if is there a feeling about like doing the specific violent J or the specific,

Speaker 1 you know, like are you are you supposed to like not go for the big two? Are you supposed to do your original?

Speaker 1 I don't know because I what if you look up like Juggalo makeup, like most non-violent J and Shaggy Two-Dope Juggalo makeup is fucking terrible. It's it's literally just like

Speaker 1 they do. It's white paint and just like some fucking black squares and what like just because they're drunk when they when they put it on

Speaker 1 and they smear and they do all these things that are like you know again getting a little yeah customizing the OC you know that being said like it's pretty close this is close enough to Halloween that I can just like this could be a Halloween costume.

Speaker 1 I also have like a somewhat similar head shape to one violent J.

Speaker 1 But you could also rock it outside normally and

Speaker 1 depending on where and how

Speaker 1 because it we are now years beyond but still there was a time when wearing juggalo makeup in day-to-day life was a thing yeah i guess it was right that there was an era where that was quite common you know and sometimes you'd go for like the low effort for example you'd be like i'll just put on the black parts today and not the white you know i don't think i should do that well yes

Speaker 1 i don't think i should do that yes and and we had a real scary moment when we were looking up the the thing and we were like oh wow the lips are out

Speaker 1 and then we just sat there for a couple minutes going hmm no it's fine it's fine it's my real lips it's my real lips

Speaker 1 uh it's okay

Speaker 1 so uh you know there was a there was a classic uh slop stream bit where uh we saw someone preparing their makeup and they put a base of black and then then started again, then, you know, sculpted over that to make a full piece.

Speaker 1 And as Reggie pointed out, he's like, from now on, I'll just ask, are you done?

Speaker 1 Is your costume finished? Did you finish?

Speaker 1 Are there extra steps that we're in the middle of right now?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 there was a moment where Paige was threatening to send you

Speaker 1 a picture of a bottle of shoe polish and tell you Pat really wants to use this one.

Speaker 1 I don't know how to convince him otherwise.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, I mean, of all the, like, you go to the pharmacy and you go to all their different options, and for some reason, after all these years, a good old shoe polish can

Speaker 1 is still

Speaker 1 the recommended way to treat your skin. I saw a TikTok skit about this, and I need your expertise because you are the expert

Speaker 1 on blackface in this room, this digital room.

Speaker 1 I saw a real argument as to whether or not you could go to a Halloween party as a white guy, as Justin Trudeau

Speaker 1 in blackface

Speaker 1 if you did the jeans and the knees.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, hold on. I was about to like because they're playing a white person.
Okay, hold on. I was about to seriously go, do you not remember the bit that we did here about exactly that?

Speaker 1 That's a big bit that we've ever done. Okay, well, then.
Is that a bit that we've done? The one that popped off on Tumblr

Speaker 1 where I'm making the devil's bargain? You should really do it. Yeah, no, I remember.
Yeah. Do you? Of course I remember.
You should do it. That's where we were arguing.

Speaker 1 I am giving you permission to do it.

Speaker 1 And so on. Exactly.
Yes.

Speaker 1 No, don't do it. Yes, that was.
That's what that

Speaker 1 extrapolated out to of like, should you grab the cop's gun or not? Me when I see a cop's gun. Yes, no.
But the original email was somebody asking about whether or not it was okay to wear

Speaker 1 to wear Justin Trudeau to a Halloween party. And I, and, uh, you know, I maintain

Speaker 1 that Halloween parties are extra high alert for this type of buffoonery.

Speaker 1 Extra high alert because this is where the people that are the most full of shit think they can get away with it the hardest. So, like, we're, everyone is on, you know,

Speaker 1 the scanning is extra, extra sensitive, right? We, we, we, we turn up the dial for sensitivity a little bit during that exact 24-hour period. Um, thus, yes, uh, you should do it.

Speaker 1 I do encourage you to do it. Um,

Speaker 1 it'll go over extra well on Halloween, the time when people have made the least amount of blunders

Speaker 1 concerning all of this

Speaker 1 that's good stuff

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 yeah i i mean it is it is always it is always like there's always that step where it's like hey you can just put the the clothes on and and do that and let you could let let the shoe polish be implied and have your have your girlfriend come as katy perry yeah no let let the shoe polish be implied right that's that's the other way to to do it is uh or just have it on your person don't don't use it

Speaker 1 or relater.

Speaker 1 Now we're thinking postmodern. All right.
Yeah. Now that's it.
We're just holding on to that. JD doesn't like me to use the shoe polish anymore.
Strong.

Speaker 1 That's the strength of the bit right there. That's powerful.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 How was your Halloween?

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 it was cool.

Speaker 1 We got her into a little pumpkin dress. Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 We got a nice smile going.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 I uh

Speaker 1 yeah, Halloween with a baby is so weird because you just put the baby in a costume and then you're like, well, yeah, no, baby can't appreciate Halloween and you don't want to show them a skeleton or whatever, they'll freak out.

Speaker 1 I sent it to Paige. I don't know if you saw it, but we got our best smile yet.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Look at this fucking thing.
Look at this. This is.
I will. It's absolutely

Speaker 1 criminal. I don't know where this is going.

Speaker 1 I don't know what device I should be looking at.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. That's good.
Look at that. The best smile yet.

Speaker 1 That's a cute baby. Yeah.
Thank you. So that is, um, that's basically that was the deal.
She has a lot of hair. It's crazy.
It's an insane amount. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 She came out with a full head, and it's been going nuts ever since. There's no controlling it.
It's humongous. Huge hair, big hair going.

Speaker 1 And yeah, no, and then

Speaker 1 got, you know, got the candy out and

Speaker 1 Punch Bomb sat by the door, and we got a couple people coming through. But oh, really? Oh, cool.
Not that many. So that means a ton of leftovers.
I'm going to be fucking munching on these for

Speaker 1 days. So that's good.

Speaker 1 That's awesome, man. Yep.
My diabetes loves it. That's good.
That's good for me.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 that was pretty much the deal. Nothing, nothing super eventful beyond that.

Speaker 1 I don't know if

Speaker 1 y'all started.

Speaker 1 How elaborate are you getting with the outfits?

Speaker 1 And we had a very real concern about this is a nice little pumpkin dress. It would suck to get big milk stains on it, you know, but that's a real concern.
And

Speaker 1 yeah, how do you approach the,

Speaker 1 you know, the elaborate outfit?

Speaker 1 Okay, so I got

Speaker 1 this is how it played out, right? So, we looked at the little man, and the little man's talking now, he's talking like a lot, like he's like a small individual now.

Speaker 1 Um, and so, like, all right, man, what do you want to be for Halloween? Do you want to be? And we, you know, we listed off like you know, a million different things. And going back three months,

Speaker 1 he says, A ghost,

Speaker 1 like clear as day.

Speaker 1 And then I'm like, oh, you want to be a ghost? And you'd go, boo.

Speaker 1 He would say, boo with his cute little baby voice. So we're like, all right, ghosts.
Okay, what do you want mommy into? A ghost.

Speaker 1 A ghost. Yeah.
Just like literally. Okay.

Speaker 1 All day, every day. Everybody.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So rock solid. on everyone's ghosts.
So what do we do? We get him a cute little onesie ghost costume with, you know, scary ghost face on the chest.

Speaker 1 And me and Paige get full-on ghost costumes like with the the giant sheets with the the eye holes and the the you know the woo

Speaker 1 and so it all comes in the main runway

Speaker 1 yes yes we checked we checked we were if yeah

Speaker 1 um and then uh

Speaker 1 so halloween morning we're like all right little man do you want to be a ghost

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 And me and Paige just went,

Speaker 1 what?

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 And he goes, no, no, no. No,

Speaker 1 too bad.

Speaker 1 Oh, and we're both just standing there like gob smacked.

Speaker 1 And then we're just like, nah, fuck it. And so we dressed him up as the ghost.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're a ghost. And he went, boo.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 man.

Speaker 1 The whims. Oh, man.
The whims of Tuesday. Because there was

Speaker 1 the moment where I was like so afraid that we're going to be like putting him into the costume and he's not going to go for it. He's just going to freak out.
I don't want it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, congratulations.

Speaker 1 And then, of course.

Speaker 1 We had plans to go trick-or-treating because he's old enough to walk around and go trick-or-treating. And then it rained like fucking crazy.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So what we ended up doing is we ended up going to our local library and they had like a little event set up, you know, like a little fake little trick-or-treat thing and some sang some songs for the children.

Speaker 1 And so we got there and the plan was that we had the R costumes in the

Speaker 1 in the car, right? And then we're going to go put them on, do the trick-or-treating thing. And me and Paige showed up and we ran into like a really strange scenario.

Speaker 1 And the scenario was that not a single child, and we saw like a hundred, right? Was dressed up as anything scary.

Speaker 1 All the two to four-year-olds exclusively were knights and dragons and princesses and

Speaker 1 cops and cowboys, and like not a one ghost, not a vampire, not a single monster.

Speaker 1 And me and Paige had full body, full covered sheets to wear. And all the parents were either not dressed at all or like princesses or whatever.

Speaker 1 And we were just like, if we put these on, we are going to terrify like most of these children. So Paige and I ended up going costumeless.

Speaker 1 We dressed up as

Speaker 1 mom and dad

Speaker 1 for Halloween.

Speaker 1 And the little guy had a great time. And it has unlocked

Speaker 1 the new phase

Speaker 1 of our child's life, which is, I just got a text message, which was,

Speaker 1 we're leaving the house and he wants his costume.

Speaker 1 Why does Halloween have to be over? Well, he really, really likes wearing his ghost costume. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And the weather is colder now, and the ghost costume was specifically built for like late fall because it's nice and warm. Oh, there you go.

Speaker 1 So we're probably going to be rolling around a little ghost for the next

Speaker 1 couple of seasons. Let's see.
That's pretty good. And also, he really sells it because people go, oh, what are you dressed up as? And he goes, a ghost.
And then he covers his eyes and goes, boom.

Speaker 1 Everybody loves it. So who are we to argue? Who are we to argue? You can't take that away.

Speaker 1 No, the only thing I'm just like, what always sucks whenever it rains on Halloween is the whole like, okay, well, trick or treat, I'm wearing a giant thick goose down jacket, but underneath it, I have a pretty sick costume.

Speaker 1 You can sort of see the parts sticking out of it, you know, but yeah, like,

Speaker 1 what are you going to do about bad weather? You know, nice to have the other thing. Well, Halloween is like specifically in the baddest weather period of the entire year.

Speaker 1 Like October, like, that's terrible. But also, like, I don't know about you, but when I was a little baby child, like, yeah, no, it was either throw a raincoat on or a big old jacket.
Fuck it.

Speaker 1 I don't give a shit. But we didn't plan for like a heavy downpour.
We planned for

Speaker 1 cold weather. Oh, yeah.
Right. Well, and the other thing is that as a two-year-old, he can't really hold an umbrella.
Right. It's not a viable option.

Speaker 1 I've talked about it before, but the,

Speaker 1 for at least over here,

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 November 1st slash October 31st was typically when

Speaker 1 we, after El Nino happened, I want to say, was when we saw like the first snowfall would be right around there, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm sure you and I have both done Halloween with snow on the ground. Yeah, that has that has started to change, you know, and

Speaker 1 what and whatnot. But I just, I remember specifically, we had El Nino, and then it was like, after this point, Halloween is the marker for when you can expect snow to begin right afterwards.

Speaker 1 And that's not fun, is a is going around doing that or so.

Speaker 1 But my entire,

Speaker 1 well, anyway, my entire Halloween

Speaker 1 fucking memory thing is mostly adulthood because obviously.

Speaker 1 Obviously.

Speaker 1 You know, the devil's holiday. Indeed.
When we were

Speaker 1 taken to

Speaker 1 to be fair,

Speaker 1 it is like overtly the devil's holiday.

Speaker 1 Actually, no, you know, and we were shown the VHS tape about the group that takes kids into the woods and sacrifices one,

Speaker 1 you know, and that's what the true meaning is.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 the true meaning of Halloween is these cults and paganists and Satanists are sacrificing children, you know,

Speaker 1 which turned out to not be far from the truth.

Speaker 1 And we were also then shown by the same company a,

Speaker 1 here's why Christmas is bad, VHS tape as well.

Speaker 1 Bro, come on. Yeah, that was a real one, you know.

Speaker 1 Saint Nick and old Nick are referring to the same Nick, after all. No, St.
Nicholas is an actual

Speaker 1 thing.

Speaker 1 Nah, old Nick, the other name for the devil. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 And don't get me started on Krampus, you know? I mean, Krampus is like the devil, like, like for real, but Swedish, right?

Speaker 1 Scandy, yeah, something to that effect in general.

Speaker 1 You know, so

Speaker 1 anyway, there, and I do remember there was at least a

Speaker 1 couple years of, okay, we can't stop them, so let's just have like, you know, like Bible candy night.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And you come

Speaker 1 here and we'll play games and sing songs and have a little study, and then also you get candy.

Speaker 1 I mean, that actually sounds like a way better

Speaker 1 than the alternative. That's what I'm like, you are bribing correctly.
Like, at the, like, I didn't get that as a kid, right? I'll also get candy, and my soul will be good. You know what?

Speaker 1 All right, maybe, maybe. It took years for them to figure that out.
Uh, that being said, I don't think, I don't know that they continued.

Speaker 1 I think it lasted maybe two, three years and then just stopped because, you know, the people these kids are still playing Dungeons and Dragons. I don't know why.
We can't stop them, you know, but

Speaker 1 they should make a biblical Dungeons and Dragons

Speaker 1 About whatever and then like pitch it. And I bet I would play a game of that.
Fuck it.

Speaker 1 Fuck it.

Speaker 1 I bet you there is a tabletop on that basis. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if Left Behind didn't make some sort of game that was like a tabletop version of it that was playable some way.

Speaker 1 It's the oh, that is what that's about. I've never seen a single thing of Left Behind, but but as soon as you said it in this conversation oh that's about the reds the reddit yeah that's it oh

Speaker 1 you know that's stupid and it would take way less work to do that than to fucking edit wolfenstein to be a noah super noah's arc game which they did for the super nintendo like supposedly that was like okay

Speaker 1 i don't know i mean i i didn't i never gave it more than a couple seconds but i don't think it was as good as ironically enough the chexquest quest game which apparently was like pretty good well i'm just my qa brain wants to go and see like could you how well could you have edited this because can there be some way where if i scrape enough against the the system you can eventually find a way to turn these these uh llamas or these giraffes back into a super nazi maybe you know maybe and then have two of them on the arc that explode like there might be a way i'm we know the code is in there i don't know all the spreads got covered.

Speaker 1 I think it's a lot of expensive events and Noah's head explodes. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 By the Commando. You know?

Speaker 1 Fucking turn the little portrait of Noah into BJ down in the corner all for like two seconds. That's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Anyways.

Speaker 1 Halloween's awesome. It's going to be awesome every year.

Speaker 1 Until they want to go out with their friends. No, dad.
I want to go with my friends.

Speaker 1 Drink in the park. What Halloween becomes the party night.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 anyway.

Speaker 1 Uh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Let me just.

Speaker 1 I'm like,

Speaker 1 there was trends in early in high school with like costumes that would people woke up to school with that I were like, where are we going with this? Like,

Speaker 1 I don't want it's weird when someone comes to school.

Speaker 1 Don't, yeah, you're right. All right, we're just gonna board.
Where are you going? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I want to go there. Let's go there.
Let's go there.

Speaker 1 Your level of uncomfortability is making me excited. Because you thought about what your problems were going to be, and I'm like, what are my problems going to be?

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh, well, let me think of how things were in high school. And I was like, oh, you're right.

Speaker 1 There's like there's astronaut and then there's sexy astronaut and then there's baby and then there's sexy baby. And it's just like, can we stop?

Speaker 1 can we just stop can we not do that that's horrible can we can we please quit you know we don't need that in brackets after every potential outfit and can i say can i say some can i say some outrageously out of touch boomer shit about the kids can i go for it

Speaker 1 I walked by, I walked by my local school and I saw a bunch of kids on Halloween dressed up

Speaker 1 in a way that I was like, that's a cool costume. So, what they were is they went to school and they were just in their fucking pajamas.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh, you guys are dressed up as kids whose parents don't respect them because they let you go to school wearing your fucking pajamas

Speaker 1 and look like a buffoon. Right, right.
Okay. Look, you know,

Speaker 1 so it was a it was, I would say that over the years, it was seeing people do the pajama look with the big, with the big sleeper bed or with the big pillow or whatever, nighty, et cetera.

Speaker 1 Sure, do your thing. Low effort, yes, do your, whatever.

Speaker 1 And so, by the way, I want to clarify, I'm not talking about pajama day. I'm actually just mocking the parents that just let their kids go to school with pajamas all the time.

Speaker 1 I remember the first time I saw someone in one of those like,

Speaker 1 I am,

Speaker 1 your outfit looks like somebody carrying something else. Like, you know, an alien is kidnapping you.
So, like, your body. That's a cool one.
Yeah. The first time I saw that, it blew my mind.

Speaker 1 I was like, what is happening?

Speaker 1 It was crazy, you know?

Speaker 1 And now, now more common, but like that thing and the horrible one that is putting the giant spider outfit on your dog. Yeah.
That's

Speaker 1 the first.

Speaker 1 Because he's already got spider legs. That is so mean.
That is horrifying. And the legs bounce up and down as they walk.
And they don't know why everybody all of a sudden is terrified of them.

Speaker 1 It's really scary.

Speaker 1 It's a really genuinely scary costume because there's a certain distance in which it all just blends together in too many legs and too big.

Speaker 1 And the distance is like not that far away. It's like 20 feet that your brain just hijacks your limbic system and goes, ah!

Speaker 1 It's a dog. It's a dog in a costume.
But just think about what that dog is going through for one day, not understanding why everyone is horrified. Maybe they feel really tough and cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's bad. Maybe they feel really tough and cool.
It's bad.

Speaker 1 How was your week?

Speaker 1 Terrible overall. My internet problems continue.
Sick.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 what else? What else is going on? The internet's still fucked up.

Speaker 1 That's just what's going on.

Speaker 1 My internet is inconsistent, uh, and uh, I had to have to call a technician again, and of course, here's my favorite part: I so I had a sponsored stream on Halloween, um, and the sponsor stream only had to be an hour long,

Speaker 1 and uh, because of my internet issues, it ice I technically streamed that game from 2 p.m. to almost 8.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 my sponsor wanted an hour, and that's how long it took to get them one hour.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Okay. And it had to be on Halloween.

Speaker 1 So, like, you can imagine how frustrating that was.

Speaker 1 What are the what's the play in like recording an offline stream and then playing that?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I know. I know.
It's like, I know.

Speaker 1 I split like this person's contract. I'm a you can't do it.
I know. You can't do that.

Speaker 1 That's not what we're looking for.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, no, that I've had a rough

Speaker 1 couple of days doing that. On the plus side,

Speaker 1 I've gotten to know my teammates in the box jam slam considerably better. Let's go.
So, yo,

Speaker 1 how's Cloud 805 doing? How's that? Cloud 805, in addition to being a really chill and nice guy, is a really great coach. Fuck yeah, is just really, really good

Speaker 1 at

Speaker 1 like zoning in on what you can improve today.

Speaker 1 Nice. Right.
Like, because, you know, you'll, you'll like, you know, I'm playing Timo. Timo's the character I'm going to be bringing into the slam.
It's like, can I be doing like mushroom loops?

Speaker 1 Yes. Am I going to learn how to do mushroom loops consistent in like three days? No.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not. Right.
So let's, let's focus on this corner carry. Let's focus on communication with my teammates on tagging.
Let's focus on how to abuse Timo super tag nonsense.

Speaker 1 Let's do that combo where Timo super tags and Yasmo just does that slash like four times in a row.

Speaker 1 You know, stuff like that. Like easy stuff that makes a big difference.
Also.

Speaker 1 On seeds four and three, there's Shumimi and Shimada, Shimada Tiger,

Speaker 1 who I got to know as a result of this. They're super chill.

Speaker 1 Cool to see Shimada actually be a fan of this program. Yay.
That's always a good start when she was training. They were like, they're calling it Dojo Super Beast was her stream title.
Nice.

Speaker 1 Like this fucking guy. Yeah, good, good, good, good.

Speaker 1 They have improved.

Speaker 1 By multiple orders of magnitude. Yeah.
Like Cloud and iHeartJustice, Javi, have like dragged the three of us like two seed placements up from where we started. Amazing.

Speaker 1 I filled out my form as Emerald One. I am now Diamond Three.
There you go. There you go.
Five days

Speaker 1 of playing with these people.

Speaker 1 It's so interesting how like sometimes it's just like, okay, your game plan is fine. You just need to be aware of what's happening to you.

Speaker 1 You know, sometimes it's like, or just like a little piece of information here or there to just kind of slightly correct what you've got. And you don't overwhelm.
You don't put too much on the plate.

Speaker 1 You just, you keep it where it's already at with your knowledge, but just a couple of steering, you know, a good coach will steer you just right where you are at your speed.

Speaker 1 That's great. Like, it's the most important thing is like, because I've, I've been coached by various things in various parts of my life.

Speaker 1 And oftentimes I feel like I've gotten the advice of like, here's this really hard thing to do now. And I'm like, that will take me a really long time to learn.

Speaker 1 Whereas opposed like, I could learn like this small thing and this small thing and this small thing that I could do today.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it would matter today.

Speaker 1 And Cloud is a like, you know, a hyper fighting game specialist, right?

Speaker 1 Like, so that's, that is definitely the right person as well, which is you've got your, your fundamentals in, you know, classic street fighting game. I know how to fight.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I know how the fighting game works.
You know, but he's coming in with the Marvel and DBFZ info and Strive and shit like that. You know, so yeah, that's, that's, that's perfect.

Speaker 1 Uh, during the box jam slam yesterday, uh, I wasn't streaming because I've actually been running a Twitch Inspector stream for 48 hours now. Shit, okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Um, because, of course, now that a technician's coming to my house in a couple of days, now my internet has no problems.

Speaker 1 So they're going to get to come here and be like seems fine to me and i'm like

Speaker 1 but when you fucking leave it will break

Speaker 1 and i i'm actually having i am also charting the weather because i have a sneaking suspicion that when it rains the internet goes out which means there's a problem in the wire somewhere on the system

Speaker 1 okay okay so i i'm doing a lot but regardless back to the slam got to play some of the other teams for the first time

Speaker 1 exhibition still because the

Speaker 1 the official matches start tomorrow.

Speaker 1 It's just getting to know people, you know, getting to know

Speaker 1 you. So

Speaker 1 what's the feel on saving that shit for nationals versus showing your cards?

Speaker 1 So nobody's saving anything for anything. We're just having fun.
We're playing. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 In fact, Willie, I got to tell you.

Speaker 1 Have you ever been part of a group and you realize that your personality is the only personality like it in like the whole room?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So like we're doing practicing.
And like, I think I was playing a match with Huntress and her partner. And Huntress is a VTuber.
She's in my seat.

Speaker 1 So I will be going up against her at some point. And we were playing.
It was me and Shumimi versus Huntress, and I forget who it was.

Speaker 1 But they were like, oh, my God. Oh, I didn't know you could block that.
And I'm just like, oh, you can't. No, you can't.
You shouldn't even try.

Speaker 1 You should like in fact, in fact, it's actually, there's no setup you can do it and i can hear like some of the other people laughing be like what bro it's like no just lie just lie like crazy yeah just just lie like constantly uh k7 came in and him and cloud start talking about how teemo's probably top one

Speaker 1 yeah and my voice comes out go nah he's he's bad he's actually like really undertuned well really really undertuned

Speaker 1 probably the worst character in the game and it's just like talking to people about FF14. All you have to do is say the best character is undertuned and people just short circuit.

Speaker 1 Okay, down players are a humongous problem in every game, right? Down players are heroes. It's fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 They're there to keep everybody else honest. It's where the term he needs it comes from, right?

Speaker 1 No, I think there's a phrase going around. Sejan was saying that, like, if you know somebody really hates Yasuo when they type in the chat, Yasuo's offense is just too honest.

Speaker 1 Just too honest. Yeah.
Now, the thing is,

Speaker 1 Timo is definitely shaping up to be way more incredible than

Speaker 1 we thought, which is, and we already thought he was strong. And again, hey, look, the Marlin Pie characters are fucking dominating.
How about that?

Speaker 1 How about that, Marlin? Right. But

Speaker 1 he really did overtune those two like crazy.

Speaker 1 But like you wouldn't, would it take a second to figure it out with Timo, right? But then you see examples. And

Speaker 1 so one, like a bunch of crazy fighting game shit happened this weekend, but like at Dream Hack Atlanta,

Speaker 1 I saw that the Echo one. Sonic Fox versus Leffin, right? And incredible comeback.
Oh, wow. The match was so insane.

Speaker 1 But like what you got to see there is straight up round start, call and and assist, and then Timo blows the blow darts. And then you just, while the blow darts are out, do stuff.

Speaker 1 Just start your mix unmolested. Just do stuff, whatever.

Speaker 1 First thing cloud taught us how to do. It's so strong.
That's the first thing.

Speaker 1 And yeah, and so it's really just like, you see shit like that. And like that, I mean, a crazy, crazy grand finals there, but like you get to see what he's good at, right?

Speaker 1 Running from halfway across the screen to get a little pickup after the throw with the net, you know? Yep.

Speaker 1 Just like a little things like that that are like, okay, he's not top in the same ways that like Echo and Yasuo are, where they're able to just dominate with their full tools.

Speaker 1 But if you play him the right way and with the right views, you know, very impressive. It's fucking super hard.

Speaker 1 And also, like, some of his best stuff is totally brain dead.

Speaker 1 Like, like super tagging to cover the whole screen

Speaker 1 is like free. I saw.

Speaker 1 uh at one point during that grand finals i saw he did the pogo stick overhead like a millimeter off the ground it made no sense it was like this is an overhead overhead that and if your timing's good you can turn that into like dropping your body into just instant overheading into a combo I mean, like instant overhead is supposed to be like, okay, they jump a certain height and then you see they get tagged, you know, on the way up.

Speaker 1 And he can float his parachute down and then do a little, like, it's so crazy, you you know anyway i'll say like in terms of saving infranationals i

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 i can't believe how effective his parachute is against everyone around my skill level just go for a jump in and then just stop

Speaker 1 and then they whiff their anti-air and then just fall down and hit them and just start the whole the whole show so the reason why like

Speaker 1 for dive kicks for example are so good and there and the why there's a whole game built around the joke of them being that good is because one of the first things that happens in fighting games in general is your brain gets used to the parabolic arc of a jump.

Speaker 1 And so when you see, you go, what goes up must come down. And then you get used to the timing of like, so he's on the way up.
Yeah, you internalize it. Now your brain goes, and sure you can, right?

Speaker 1 They jump up and flash kick. You get, you just, that's a part of your.
part rhythm as you play. And then you go, jump up and nope.
And you're like, ah,

Speaker 1 you know, and like, even when they know it's coming, you're still conditioned to have your first reflex be anti-air, no wait. It's really hard, it's hard to do.

Speaker 1 And that little no wait is just enough of a hiccup in the

Speaker 1 flowchart to be like, ah, fuck, what am I doing? And then you got them, you know? It's so strong to do anything in midair that changes your jump arc or slows you down or the parabola, you know.

Speaker 1 So, in terms of saving and shit for nationals, I got to play

Speaker 1 one Peter park and unruly

Speaker 1 with shumi me and myself which is a matchup that will happen at a later date oh

Speaker 1 it was very even

Speaker 1 it was very even and it was if i can say it was a a combination of two different types of training who's who's coaching uh kenny k7 Show off, yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Though he, they only met for the first time yesterday because uh, they've been very busy.

Speaker 1 Okay, um, but it was very, very interesting because it was a completely different style of training and what they've been, what everybody's been focusing on, and it was fascinating.

Speaker 1 So, cloud has been focusing on all of our fundamentals, right?

Speaker 1 Everybody needs a combo they can do every time.

Speaker 1 Here's a little trick, here's a little trick, here's a little thing to do in neutral, here's how to react to this, here's how to tag to this, like basics, yeah, right?

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, we played with Peter Peter and Kenny, and their basics were not quite as tight. But what they did have is the most disgusting, aggressive mix-up plan possible.

Speaker 1 They're running two times assists. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 And when Peter's coming in as Warwick,

Speaker 1 Elawi does assist one and then assist two to run Warwick's mix. That's the diaphone.
So

Speaker 1 the fucking tentacle, it's just shooting around everywhere while you're having to guess high-low on the Warwick mix-up. It's really good.

Speaker 1 And like they rode that trick to all the wins they did because we couldn't deal with this. It's insanely strong.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that's the diaphone because I play Alaui on double down, but like, and you can do some stuff, but when you have her on 2x assist, exactly.

Speaker 1 Assist one into two leaves you a year to just mix them up while they're locked down with the tentacle.

Speaker 1 That's another way of coaching that is pretty effective. That is just like you have one trick, it's really strong.

Speaker 1 It's a it's really strong, and and then just do everything and plan around this one gimmick and see if they can get past it or not.

Speaker 1 If we could play neutral, we would win. And if they got the space to run that gimmick, they would take the rap.
Like, it was very like back and forth and back and forth.

Speaker 1 There was an early, one of the earlier slams. There was, uh, I forgot who the

Speaker 1 um who the streamer was and the coach, but someone taught someone to just head butt with Honda.

Speaker 1 And it was like, that'll work against the whole

Speaker 1 people. That's it.
It's like, no, no, no, don't get fancy. Just headbutt, have the Ochio throw ready to go, and then upslap, butt slam, you know, the basics, like butt slam to master.

Speaker 1 And yeah, it fucking worked.

Speaker 1 You know, that

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 a really difficult thing to deal with. As you get better, it's still a problem, right? So you can absolutely teach somebody that one thing and see if that'll carry you through.

Speaker 1 Because the other bit, too, is that, like, admittedly, a bracket is different from a round-robin, you know, kind of

Speaker 1 playoff. But

Speaker 1 if people at the highest level are using this gimmick and are unable to deal with it, you can bet your ass that They're not you're at lower levels, you're not going to figure out a solution on the fly, you know.

Speaker 1 And what you want to do is, of course, layer it so that while that's going on, let's say he has a variation where he does it, I don't know, a little bit slower and goes for a throw.

Speaker 1 Or if you follow up, if you answer it one way, then oh, I got a different answer for you. You just, just like that, just two layers of depth, and that can be your whole coaching game plan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, interesting. Okay, so the, the, so far, it's an even match in the exhibitions.

Speaker 1 Are you so? Well,

Speaker 1 no,

Speaker 1 There's some weaker and stronger. Like, there's a couple teams I feel pretty confident against.
And there's one team I don't feel confident against. Okay.
And that's Boxbox is in my seed.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, how the fuck Boxbox gets seed to?

Speaker 1 I fought his Vi, and I'm like, I don't, I don't understand how the fuck this happened. Are they doing electrics?

Speaker 1 They're doing everything. Okay.

Speaker 1 They're doing literally everything. Because, yeah, I'm like, if you're, you're, if you, well, you know, there's always,

Speaker 1 there's always that person you're fighting in ranked where you're, where you, you, you get absolutely annihilated by them in game one because you're like, oh my God, you should be way above where you are.

Speaker 1 You're probably an expert player that's that's smurfing or coming back down through the ranks to learn something.

Speaker 1 And then you play the second game and realize, oh, wait, all they have is that one top layer. All they have is that one thing.
And the moment you crack it, they don't know what the fuck to do, right?

Speaker 1 Geef is a pretty good character. Grapplers in general are good at breaking that open because people who are doing pressure that has holes in it

Speaker 1 get thrown, you know, and then they have to stop and change that pressure.

Speaker 1 But if they went through the rest of the cast, never thinking about the gaps in their pressure, then they didn't have to worry about getting thrown and destroyed, you know?

Speaker 1 So you, you, you might be dealing with that, like, um,

Speaker 1 it's a, it's a, I don't know, it's, it's a fancy, you know, cheese au gratin, you know, kind of cover, but then underneath it, there's no content, nothing to worry about. Maybe, but you never know.

Speaker 1 It's really fascinating because I fought a couple people who had just combos for days.

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 fancy, fancy stuff,

Speaker 1 but they can't deal with run-up throw. Right, right, right.
They can't.

Speaker 1 Their brain doesn't have the tech reflex. Right.

Speaker 1 That's fascinating. And you've picked a lane.

Speaker 1 Your lane is annoying. So my my lane is annoying.
My lane is hyper-aggressive. Timo.

Speaker 1 Timo has really disgusting stuff he can do off his throws, which actually makes me super mad because Blitz can't do anything off his throws, but Darius and Alawi and Timo can. That's fucking bullshit.

Speaker 1 Double the strength of Blitz's throw. Just make it

Speaker 1 do 40%.

Speaker 1 So Blitz currently has a ridiculously like

Speaker 1 it's a

Speaker 1 compromising bug, in my opinion, uh, right? Where

Speaker 1 if he does his grapple, his get over here, and it hits an assist character, the next button he does has no hitbox. Yeah, it's it's busted, it's really bad.

Speaker 1 That is enough to make him bottom garbage, dirt tier, unusable until they fix that. Even without it, he's still not very good.
There's problems, there are problems.

Speaker 1 Um, he's a fantastic sidekick, he's a fantastic

Speaker 1 background character for certain, you know, uh, uh, super setups. But yeah, that is an un

Speaker 1 that you cannot take that character above a certain tier with a problem like that.

Speaker 1 Because if I know that I'm like, oh, I can just fuck you, and it doesn't go away naturally, it stays persistent until you whiff the button or whatever, you know.

Speaker 1 Anyways, anyways, so so yeah, having fun, the tournament is tomorrow. It starts tomorrow.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 the pre-elimination phase. That's seating.
That's Tuesday. Thursday is some Swiss rounds, just some round-robining stuff.

Speaker 1 And then on Saturday is going to be the proper double elimination bracket. There we go.
Do you know what you're going to eat?

Speaker 1 Maybe we'll win, but we're definitely going to place for sure. Have you thought about what you're going to eat?

Speaker 1 Like breakfast? Like, like maybe a burger like the correct answer is nothing pat oh

Speaker 1 nothing i should i should play hungry play hungry toronto

Speaker 1 never forget play hungry so

Speaker 1 stupid pass out pass out as you play

Speaker 1 oh it's never it's never been dumber than than the microphone over discord people need to be hearing

Speaker 1 they need to be hearing samurai shampoo noises coming out of your microphone over the call. No excuses.

Speaker 1 I feel like that's like a psyop

Speaker 1 about like to make your opponents like weaker.

Speaker 1 You know, dude, it's just the Toronto Marvel players were insane. That's all you need to know.
You know?

Speaker 1 In between, in between their horrible accents.

Speaker 1 Terrible accents.

Speaker 1 You know.

Speaker 1 You leave your moms to play hungry in the hood? Sick to miss stomach fam.

Speaker 1 It's not even a real accent. That shit didn't even exist 15 years ago.
It's completely fucking fake.

Speaker 1 Fucking Toronto. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.

Speaker 1 What else? I beat Hades 2. I rolled credits on Hades 2.

Speaker 1 Yeah, air quotes. Yeah, so

Speaker 1 I think the way that Hades 2 has done this ending patch stuff, I don't know if you've heard about that.

Speaker 1 Did you bring it up last week, I think? I brought it up, but I hadn't actually encountered it. Okay, okay.
And the patch hadn't come out yet.

Speaker 1 I think the way they have handled the way this patch works is one of the shittiest updates I have ever encountered in my life.

Speaker 1 It is, it is one of the worst ways, and don't worry, guys, there won't be any spoilers. It is one of the worst ways I have ever had to deal with a patch.

Speaker 1 It has fully reinforced my, like, I'm just going to wait like six months for almost every game I can get a hold of. Like, it is, it is, it is the worst.

Speaker 1 So, the long and short of it is that people generally did not like the game's 1.0 ending?

Speaker 1 I went and I checked out what was different and what was changed. And I'll tell you, yeah, that's a pretty bad fucking ending.
That's like, I would call it like poor. I wouldn't call it like

Speaker 1 terrible, but like, it's pretty shit, right?

Speaker 1 And then, what, a month later, six weeks later, um,

Speaker 1 they said, hey, big changes coming to the ending.

Speaker 1 And it was like, okay.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 big changes include a bunch of new dialogue on the path to the ending.

Speaker 1 The ending's like twice as long.

Speaker 1 There's some

Speaker 1 actual narrative changes that happen, but there's just more of it as well. And I'm like, oh, that's a much better ending.
I don't think it's like great, but I think it's much better.

Speaker 1 However, well, what if I beat 1.0?

Speaker 1 And saw the old ending. Well, they're going to add an incantation that you can use to just reset the game's story progress just for the main quest.

Speaker 1 And so you'll basically be starting over and you have to do like your six and eight runs again, right? But it will add all, you know, you'll basically be playing through the new version.

Speaker 1 So here's an much more interesting question.

Speaker 1 What if I already did everything I need to do before the final important run?

Speaker 1 Well, Pat, person in this fringe situation, what's going to happen is, is you're going to see the new upgraded ending and none of the new dialogue that builds up to it.

Speaker 1 And the ability to rewind the game's state only exists after you beat the game.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 fuck. So the new, because, okay, I saw this being referred to as a true ending, right? No, no, there's two.
There's the credits ending and then there's a true ending afterwards.

Speaker 1 it's the credits ending that was changed okay the thing after that is the same yeah so so there's a build-up to that stuff that happens through dialogue beforehand that so i'll i'll i'll stop you and i'll just i'll just like because it's complicated i understand okay in the in the original 1.0 release the biggest complaint was there's no lead up to this ending it's very sudden and it comes out of nowhere So in addition to changing it for the better, what they also did is went back and put supporting dialogue that would lead the character to the next one.

Speaker 1 That's build up to

Speaker 1 Okay, so what I get now, having being right at the end, like right at the finish line, I get the new ending that still doesn't have any setup to it. So I go, that's really weird.

Speaker 1 It's like all the characters changed their minds at the last second for no fucking reason. And I can't go back to see it until I beat the fucking game.

Speaker 1 This is not a 1.0 release. I waited like a year to play this this game at 1.0 on the fucking Nintendo Switch when it is done on a console fucking finished.

Speaker 1 And then I'm playing it for like a couple weeks. And they're like, by the way, we rewrote the whole ending.

Speaker 1 But you're stuck. You're actually locked in now.
What percentage would you say is it

Speaker 1 of the new stuff is pre-ending setup versus changes to the actual ending?

Speaker 1 I won't be able to tell you that until I go and actually do it again uh supposedly nearly every character of note gets multiple lines of dialogue that set up the new ending

Speaker 1 across across eight runs yeah i mean the the thing with this is um

Speaker 1 i'm almost it's it's almost going back to some

Speaker 1 it's not the same but that the problem i had of like overdosing on pre-release versions of the game where yeah so i accidentally did that with the full release of the game. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The general understanding being like when something is in early access or so, anything can happen. You can't, you know, you play at your, progress at your own risk or whatever.

Speaker 1 But if you're doing it once there is a 1.0

Speaker 1 call,

Speaker 1 then you should not feel like you should not lose anything. You can't do a change or a bug fix here or there.

Speaker 1 And that's complex too, because you can't just do like a cutscene viewer. You know what I mean? Like, it's

Speaker 1 tons of dialogue. Yeah.
And this game has so much dialogue that, like, going back to catch-it-all is also like

Speaker 1 the worst feeling situation I have been in a game's narrative or a patch. Just do it all over.
Just do it all over.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And so now I'm going to reset it and I'm going to do it all over.

Speaker 1 And my brain is going to go, wow, I really wish I had seen this first or been able to go back first instead of getting locked into this weird sequence of events.

Speaker 1 Like, I think that they locked down the Nintendo Switch 2 release date and then realized they weren't going to hit it because that first ending, when I went back and watched it, that seems incomplete.

Speaker 1 That seems like not finished.

Speaker 1 There is too much dialogue re-recorded and too much new art for me to believe they saw people like complain about it and were like, oh, let's get everybody back in the studio and fix it up. Like,

Speaker 1 and now the game's 1.0.

Speaker 1 And if this is, and if this content, which I imagine it sounds like it's pretty good, is worth it.

Speaker 1 That fucking sucks. Yeah.
This reminds me of

Speaker 1 P5 Royale, right? And it's not, of course, the same thing with the release structure, but in terms of like, is it enough to just go check. There's a new ending to that game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I remember at one point I was like, so is it enough to just check out the new stuff? And it's like, no, because

Speaker 1 it's integrated the campaign itself right and and um uh smt5 as well where at least okay with smt5 i will say that the vengeance mode is like uh uh wait no not vengeance am i getting that wrong anyway yeah no vengeance

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah um is like oh like 20 minutes in it's diverging heavily right so

Speaker 1 That whole thing about like, ah, you're going back for P5, but the integration starts earlier. And I'm like, I don't have it in me to go do it again.
I just don't. If it was.

Speaker 1 I tried and I get distracted by something else because there's too much of that game that's the same. I'll go back to it in like five years or something like that.

Speaker 1 So if there was, if the victory lap was like all the same and then from this point forward, it changes, that would be, I'd be okay with that. It would be easier to digest.
But nope.

Speaker 1 um the fact that you're all this stuff beforehand and then i'm like yeah okay then like i'm just gonna get punished for being an early adopter and that'll be that you know i i happen to be in the like if i had beaten the game myself and be like, wow, that's terrible.

Speaker 1 And then go, oh, let's see what they change. That would have been fine.
If I had not picked it up until last week, that would have been fine. But I got to exist in the nexus point of shit

Speaker 1 where now, like, my experience was totally disconnected from itself.

Speaker 1 Fucking

Speaker 1 stupid. And again, like, I always, you know, like, I've, I've done the pre-1.0 burnout thing.
Um, if you specifically waited, that sucks. And you were, and you were also, you stopped right before

Speaker 1 like the final point is basically I had one run to go. I had the final run to go when the patch downloaded on Steam on my computer.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Does the extra stuff that you're describing that is added into the main story, um, did they add stuff to the side content at all as well?

Speaker 1 Well, the way that the way that it works is that, like, basically, your runs with Kronos have more and new dialogue, and there are more and new dialogue with side characters about your runs with Kronos.

Speaker 1 Okay, all in the context of the main runs, but everything you did outside of that is

Speaker 1 all the personal progression, all that stuff. That's all the same.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Just the worst. Just the worst.

Speaker 1 Like an author changing the ending to a book while it's in your hands. Just god-awful.
Hey, I got to take a quick break. I got to help with baby.

Speaker 1 Right back.

Speaker 1 All All right.

Speaker 1 So yeah, to continue off what I was saying, man, I like, if I was reviewing Hades 2, I would pull a full fucking point off the score for this nonsense.

Speaker 1 Like, this makes me feel stupid for waiting to play the game at release instead of picking it up on a Steam sale.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, okay, so these are truly, I guess, the downsides of like, you know, ongoing development. It works for costs and it works for, you know, how Hades 2 handled it and stuff.

Speaker 1 And again, I think most people are able to accept the, if it's early access, then you, you take what you get.

Speaker 1 I guess here, maybe the thought too as well is like,

Speaker 1 did they make, like, the ending being received poorly was not expected. So then they went back and improved it.
So I don't know. I feel like they threw this thing together really fast.

Speaker 1 Like really,

Speaker 1 really. When did hold on, when did 82 release? Hades to release date.

Speaker 1 That's not correct. May 6th is not correct.

Speaker 1 That is wrong, Google. It did not come out May 6th, 2024.
Came out September 25th.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So that is what?

Speaker 1 It's a month.

Speaker 1 A month ago.

Speaker 1 It feels really fast to have put this together in one month.

Speaker 1 Especially since they took like a week for people to get to the ending en masse and start to complain really, really bad.

Speaker 1 Okay, so they already were planning to add to it and they kind of just had an early version of it.

Speaker 1 I can't tell you for certain, but it feels

Speaker 1 like this was in the works and just didn't make it.

Speaker 1 Uncharacteristic feels that way. uncharacteristic of them in terms of like they usually are pretty solid with all this type of stuff

Speaker 1 so yeah that that is that that super cool thing ended up being a massive disappointment you're on a weird edge case because of your exact save file progression placement true i think that they could have solved that by not locking the ability to rewind the game after beating the game

Speaker 1 if i if i could have just gone hey hit the button to restart yeah and just play through the 14 more runs and do it. I would have been like, Yeah, okay, that's fine.

Speaker 1 But like,

Speaker 1 this edge case doesn't have to exist is basically what I'm saying. No, no, but, but the QA in me is like, no, but I would write that shit up anyways.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I would report that and go like, that doesn't need to be like that. So, fair enough.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've been having like longer and longer and weirder and weirder relationships with games being done and finished.

Speaker 1 Like, they have said outright, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 will receive a final stability patch and its final DLC this coming Tuesday on the 11th.

Speaker 1 So I'll start playing it.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 Cyberpunk literally put out a patch that's called the final patch. I mean, and then they matched like three times during your playthrough.

Speaker 1 I, yeah, like I started that playthrough smug as shit, being like, man, I sure waited for the perfect time.

Speaker 1 I sure wasn't a sucker that played it earlier and got a worse version of, what the fuck do you mean there's new shit coming? What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 So early access is obviously very different.

Speaker 1 And who am I to say that you shouldn't improve your game post-release? But like...

Speaker 1 It really feels like every single game is in early access for like five years after it comes out.

Speaker 1 Like, I know that's been a joke that that people have said, but like, I probably would have beaten Baldur's Gate 3 if there wasn't always a patch two weeks from now that improves it and adds more stuff.

Speaker 1 This attitude can kind of go on forever. I mean, somewhere out there, someone could be like, yeah, I'm, you know what? I was waiting for Dragon Ball Fighters to be finished before I started playing.

Speaker 1 And now that they announced one more character, now it's time to start getting fighting games are obviously anything competitive is a slightly different place. But no, this is.

Speaker 1 It's getting more and more and more frustrating.

Speaker 1 Monster Hunter Wild, somebody mentions that. Dude, that game is...
They put out a statement like in May that was like, we'll be working on the performance in a patch in December of this year.

Speaker 1 So are you fucking crazy?

Speaker 1 It's not the highest priority, but I always think about like solutions that could be elegant where it's like, okay, so you missed something. Is there a way for you to go back and not miss it?

Speaker 1 You know, is there a way for you to go to a menu somewhere and just recap a conversation, recap a moment, replay something to just kind of go back? You know what they could have done?

Speaker 1 You know what I would have preferred in Hades? I would have preferred them just loading up all the new dialogue and have like, go talk to Hecatus. Oh, it's just

Speaker 1 in a row. Yeah, you just blast the dialogue in one shot.
That would be way better. Oh, my God.
That's so inelegant, inelegant, but

Speaker 1 yeah. I mean, the other, you know, because

Speaker 1 there's so many, it's such a game too with random musings, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So I'm like, from one thing to be like, oh, go to the character's profile, and then each step of the way, you can select this step of their heart progression, this step of their heart progression, and replay that dialogue if you want to hear it again or something.

Speaker 1 But yeah, when there's little things that are asides or, you know,

Speaker 1 shit where, I mean, in part one, when Meg randomly shows up in the calf, you know, it's like, yeah, you don't, the lines coming out of her are not planned. That's not planned.

Speaker 1 She's going to show up randomly, and you may or may not go talk to her. You know, it's like, there's, it's so much.
It's so, so much.

Speaker 1 And the whole star of the show, really, is how insane the amount of dialogue,

Speaker 1 the insane word count in this game is, is a feature. So I don't know the most elegant way to just let you go back and

Speaker 1 not miss it. But

Speaker 1 weird edge case, weird edge case.

Speaker 1 It has really, really soured me on the narrative. Like, playing it fucking rules, but like the story, which is supposed to be like the bread of the game sandwich, is like soured on me.

Speaker 1 It bums me the fuck out. So, like, while I have the QA field that, like, breaks shit as I'm playing it, you have this one where I'm the timing field is gone.

Speaker 1 You get social.

Speaker 1 This happens to you multiple times where you're in

Speaker 1 weird edge case.

Speaker 1 All the time. it's the types of games that i like

Speaker 1 i like western made rpgs

Speaker 1 well i should just go myself that like and this is so this has been the thing forever

Speaker 1 as soon as these games could get patched like it's become like man playing playing new vegas on launch day dude playing new vegas on launch day back in 2009 that was crazy

Speaker 1 that was crazy that thing was like, that might be the most on fire release I've ever got my hands on. But that's waiting for the fans to fix it, right? Like, right.
And here's the thing.

Speaker 1 You know what? I didn't mind it back then. You know why I didn't mind it back then? Because I was like 20.

Speaker 1 And when I was like, oh,

Speaker 1 I'll just replay it again

Speaker 1 when the DLC comes out. And then I did.
And then later, when I was a little older, I'll just stream it. So I played it like, and now I played it like four times.

Speaker 1 But when I'm looking at Pathfinder, Wrath of the righteous or fucking rogue trader and i'm like hey i'm going to play this 145 hour rpg once

Speaker 1 is it safe i would like it to be finished can you not do four and a half years of dlc please

Speaker 1 it Rather the Righteous also did a free epilogue that voice acted endings for all the characters.

Speaker 1 That was the last thing they put out.

Speaker 1 Like three years after the game came out. I'm thinking of games that have like massive time sinks in them where

Speaker 1 you don't run into this. And I'm like, From Soft games absolutely change themselves as you're playing them.
Elden Ring.

Speaker 1 Elden Ring fucking moved NPCs around like a game of fucking Elden Ring musical chairs. At like version 0.8, man.

Speaker 1 They picked picked people up and dropped them elsewhere. They made bushes start talking to you.
Like they just, they had so much shit unfinished when that dropped.

Speaker 1 And fortunately, I guess, when you do want to go find out something that you missed, it's one five-minute YouTube video away. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's an easy catch up to be like, oh, yeah, here's the dialogue from when they moved Nephili Lou from here over to there, you know? And you're caught up in two seconds, but yeah, they were not done.

Speaker 1 I like really ambitious RPGs from North American and European developers that launch broken every time. I have played Witcher 1, Witcher 2, Witcher 3, and Cyberpunk on release to some degree, right?

Speaker 1 Like, Witcher 3,

Speaker 1 and every single game has come out more fucked

Speaker 1 the day it comes out. Like, I don't know if you remember this because you didn't play Witcher 3.

Speaker 1 Witcher 3 came out fucked on release. Yes.

Speaker 1 Tons and tons of quests just didn't resolve correctly.

Speaker 1 And I remember the discussion around this has just been like, it's CD Project.

Speaker 1 This is what happens. Right.

Speaker 1 So I remember like long ago when we had the discussion about Cyberpunk, when they showed off that trailer, I'm like, this game is going to come out fucked up.

Speaker 1 But even I could not have foreseen just how fucked up that game would come out. That was their fucking coup de grace on that shit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, to be to be fair to that game, like they were picking up the ashes.

Speaker 1 Like it was, it was nothing but shitpost memes of people falling out of worlds, which still happens, by the way, but like unplayable garbage

Speaker 1 footage coming out all over Twitter at the time versus now where you're like, no, no, no, this is a good game. This is cool.
You know, I'm gonna tell you right now, Witcher One.

Speaker 1 I actually recently re-went to Witcher One and I've fucked around with Witcher 2 and 3 since. Witcher 1, 2, and 3 and Cyberpunk will never be stable ever.

Speaker 1 There's like the way those games are built and the things they want to do,

Speaker 1 they will never be stable. Witcher One runs off a single core.
You can't get a good frame rate in a bunch of those areas.

Speaker 1 The computer to me

Speaker 1 doesn't exist, right? Crisis.

Speaker 1 They're a far cry from

Speaker 1 what they were on release. A far cry? Ah.

Speaker 1 Expression.

Speaker 1 People use that. Where?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 I think Witcher 2 is the most fucked up of them all.

Speaker 1 I think that game sucks in a really interesting way, and I love it.

Speaker 1 I'll play it on stream one day.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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And I can confirm. Saw you crucified earlier today.
I did. I did.
There's not great.

Speaker 1 i i i can confirm as i've i've just this morning i got like uh the extras you know from that came in so that's you know hey there's some wholesome content out there someone's playing third strike and uh makoto you know wins a match and then the camera pans over to little wolves getting shoved off the couch in assault and i'm like yeah that's cool and then there's jars and yeah i saw the jars yeah look like i said the jars are currently empty so you're already hey that's okay just sarah just like at least.

Speaker 1 You can't tell them what to do. I can't tell you what to do.
They're too strong.

Speaker 1 But I can at least, just, if you're going to, if I'm going to be in the jar, just let me have my stick in the side the jar, too, so I can lab while I'm in the jar. That's all.
Just, it's mean

Speaker 1 to put me in the jar and take the stick away. That's so mean.

Speaker 1 Listen.

Speaker 1 Listen, you know what? They'll probably give you a choice of what goes in the jar, but your choices will be limited and bad.

Speaker 1 Okay, the stick can go in alongside other things. Or

Speaker 1 yeah. All right.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm going to try and stream the box jam slam this week, as well as some regular stuff over at twitch.tv slash badstares at and youtube.com slash badstares at. Here's hoping that it fucking

Speaker 1 fucking.

Speaker 1 I would have said before this, like, now we can truly see whether this is the good Wi-Fi, but, like,

Speaker 1 the Wi-Fi, so the internet is having a problem. The new routers, Wi-Fi is fucking crazy good.
No, we're beyond that at this point. No, the problem is the cable or the, I don't know, I'm sad.

Speaker 1 What about you, man?

Speaker 1 Um, yeah, so not, again, not a ton, been pretty busy, but um, I guess

Speaker 1 uh jumped on and played um

Speaker 1 uh uh Jimmy Bones came over. We played a little bit of 2x KO locally, and I just wanted to be like, you know what?

Speaker 1 Just cool that offline, you have all

Speaker 1 the colors there and all the characters. And that's a smart move to just be like, okay,

Speaker 1 like this is an online, you know, free-to-play type of thing, but I hope that any other games in the future, any other fighting games in the future that come along like this, do allow you to just have a full suite offline mode, you know,

Speaker 1 and let that be accessible no matter what's happening with the servers or whether or not you want to bother playing online, you know, that's that's that's cool that that that's a thing. Um,

Speaker 1 also nice was um the ability for each controller plugged in to um cycle through playing matches in a lobby or so while you know um

Speaker 1 one person was active, but like anybody could start playing on the controller. So that was great, you know.

Speaker 1 So, um, the only major problem that I ran into is uh, this is apparently a Riot server-based thing the

Speaker 1 the cost of getting excellent rollback with regional net code server connections is that people on North American accounts are connecting to rooms with people with North American accounts and you cannot join a lobby if you have a European account or Asian so yeah

Speaker 1 That sucks because, for example, that came up in the slam. Some people had to make North American accounts despite being

Speaker 1 sucks, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Solidus had a had a non-north american account and like you know you just couldn't even join the lobby and it's like i understand and expected things to be like oh by general proximity you connect to these games and these rooms and these servers but when you're not able at all to go cross-region that's a bummer um well you can go cross region You just have to choose a different region.

Speaker 1 Make a different account, yes.

Speaker 1 And this is going to get extra complicated when consoles come into play because cross-play

Speaker 1 is going to be a thing and you're not going to have these same restrictions unless you do. I don't know, you know, because like if it works the way,

Speaker 1 for example, like Multiversus worked, where you load up the game and then it asks you to log into your WB account.

Speaker 1 So whatever you're playing the PC version with, you also have to have it ready to go on console.

Speaker 1 And then it'll just lock you in anyways, which I could see that being the simplest way for them to go forward with with this.

Speaker 1 But if they don't and just let you use your own Sony account information to go online as its own separate thing and then match you up that way, they're going to have a huge issue with people coming from wherever on consoles matching up against people that are region locked, you know?

Speaker 1 I hope they fix that though. Or if they don't...
I would prefer that they actually fix the inability to play duos on the fucking couch. Yes.

Speaker 1 That's stupid. So we talked about this a little bit before.

Speaker 1 Do you ask for two logins or do you just go, fuck it? It's a clone of the same person. Leave it alone.
I have it to be a clone of the same fucking person.

Speaker 1 Because that'll work on consoles as well.

Speaker 1 In fact, I bet that's one of the reasons holding up the console release.

Speaker 1 Right? Forcing because PlayStation and Xbox, they like to do the clone account thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess you just have to take, you have to let go of the idea of the ranked number being your personal score then a little bit. The philosophy of what ranked should be.

Speaker 1 It already gets fucky wucky when you have any two guys that are the same.

Speaker 1 I was playing with with Shumi and Cloud, and my fucking hidden Elo was going all over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it does get wild with that, but there, there is that like, okay, you're stuck to your,

Speaker 1 the idea that you're on your own controller is what we're going to use to distribute your points.

Speaker 1 I think it, yeah, you have to get into the discussion about like what it should be or shouldn't be

Speaker 1 worth to be like, hey, me and Ghost Me, whoever's sitting next to me, are count as my profile and whether or not that matters.

Speaker 1 I believe someone pointed out that when it comes to duos in,

Speaker 1 is it StarCraft 2,

Speaker 1 where

Speaker 1 you can play in a duo with somebody and each

Speaker 1 character combination has its own, or no, no, each player you play match up with, regardless of

Speaker 1 what you pick, instead of doing character-specific mastery or whatever, you can have like you and this player are considered an entry of your own, with your own. That's cool.
Yeah. So

Speaker 1 each two accounts together can become its own ranking, you know?

Speaker 1 Complex, but elegant if they're willing to do that.

Speaker 1 And if it's been done before with

Speaker 1 with StarCraft, and like you know, you have an example of what that could be because I can understand

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 I love character-specific rankings, and they encourage people to you know get out of their comfort zone and mess around with and have fun with other characters.

Speaker 1 You don't have to sacrifice anything by playing a new character that comes out in Street Fighter every time they drop because you still have your best characters in their own ranking, um,

Speaker 1 you know, but uh, with duo with can with taking two characters and a different fuse, shit gets weird, right?

Speaker 1 What I will say is that I'm just at the top of diamond now.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 there's way more overlap in a 2x KO character than there is in a fucking Street Fighter character. Like,

Speaker 1 the basics apply to everybody in a way that they don't really in Street Fighter.

Speaker 1 Like, I picked, you know, I don't know how to play Alaui. I don't know how, but I grabbed Timo Alaui for a couple matches instead of Timo Blitz.
And like,

Speaker 1 it was fine. Like, I didn't do any fancy fucking shit with Alaui.
I did the air combo into the corner and then I brought the tentacles out.

Speaker 1 And people don't know how to fucking deal with that shit at all. So, the weird thing about like hyper fighting games is

Speaker 1 the hyper games is that, like, as much as they get like wild and complex and all over the place with what you're describing with characters and teams and synergy,

Speaker 1 something that they do have that, like, you know, something like Street Fighter, for example, doesn't is magic series.

Speaker 1 You can go light, medium, heavy, launch, jump, light, medium, heavy, special, and that'll work in any game, in any context, whatever, universally. All of them have that.

Speaker 1 And there is that little basis of like, if I go play Dragon Ball Fighters and I pick up a character I've never used before, I know that. There's that, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's very, very basic. It's nothing advanced.

Speaker 1 It's nothing that's going to help me like win at, you know, beyond my skill level, but you can just have a basic ass do a advancing, you know, series of buttons combo that you can do with everybody, universally, no matter what.

Speaker 1 Anyways.

Speaker 1 Okay, so beyond that,

Speaker 1 chipped away a little bit more at Silk Song. I didn't do much, but I did do the Verdania area.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's optional, but it's cool. It's really cool.

Speaker 1 It took, like, it was one of these areas that I was like,

Speaker 1 I was kind of waiting to see. I'm like, okay, I know what you're going for, but it's like, I'm like, where, what's, what are you setting up here?

Speaker 1 And then you start getting lore, and the lore parts of that are really fantastic. And,

Speaker 1 you know, I, yeah, the Green Princess story is fucking great. I really enjoyed that piece of the game.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it's extraordinarily optional. And it feels like that is a side character that has

Speaker 1 three

Speaker 1 exit ramps that you can completely ignore, you know?

Speaker 1 You can the you run in this, yeah, this NPC, I don't know how it plays out if you ignore them for most of the game in all these ways, but like there's a lot of ways to not progress

Speaker 1 that plot, it feels like, but yeah, but there's a great fucking payoff for doing so, it feels absolutely um lore-wise, A way better boss fight.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 That was pretty much that.

Speaker 1 And then I did spend some time. I talked a little last week about

Speaker 1 there's two games I saw that looked really cool.

Speaker 1 One was Ball Pit. The other was Slots and Daggers.
So I decided to jump a bit more onto Slots and Daggers and see what was going on because I wanted something that didn't have like active time,

Speaker 1 whatever. I wanted something that wasn't real time.
So I was like,

Speaker 1 let me check out Slots and Daggers and I'll check out Ballpit after.

Speaker 1 Slots and Daggers is fucking cool.

Speaker 1 It is, as described, it is a slot machine, roguelike

Speaker 1 progression

Speaker 1 game. And

Speaker 1 there is a basical element of, you know, in between every stage, every round, you, you know, you get money and then you buy upgrades for your weapons.

Speaker 1 And then each time you roll your slots, the things that appear

Speaker 1 either attack, build up your defense, or build up your money, or build up your whatever, you know, like so there's all, there's different stats you can, you can build up, and then at the end of your roll,

Speaker 1 it resolves all of them and, you know, casts the outcome.

Speaker 1 While you're doing so the enemy you're fighting has a

Speaker 1 whatever it's doing up it's what it's whatever it's about to do to you you can see it's coming up next you can see its shield and its hp and then it's there's different elements to like you know um how combos can work and things so um

Speaker 1 you start off with like a three you know classic slot machine uh and then you pick one of three weapons so you have a sword for example that'll do an attack you have a shield and build up your shield defense and then a coin gives you a coin on the side

Speaker 1 Eventually, you can get things like poison so that you can build up DOT.

Speaker 1 Or you can build up stuff where you automatically heal passively in the background.

Speaker 1 And then, or you can unlock a fourth slot, right? And then you can get jackpots a lot easier because you just need three in a row, but now you've got four or even five, right?

Speaker 1 Then you start finding synergy between some builds and some real cool shit happens where you go, okay, here's a

Speaker 1 here's a weapon that the damage it does is directly related to how many coins you have sitting in your pouch. Oh, I love money builds, right?

Speaker 1 Don't spend your money, that's your damage, right? And now

Speaker 1 at one point the other day, that was like, you take gold damage first, yeah, right. I'm like, I walk into the fight with a thousand dollars.
I'm like, all right, let's go, Chronos.

Speaker 1 But now all of a sudden, certain enemies that have attacks that are like steals 50 of your gold are way more threatening because beforehand i'd be like oh i don't care i'll just spend as much gold as i can before they steal it and now it's like oh fuck that's my build

Speaker 1 this enemy becomes way harder you know um another one is like um

Speaker 1 uh uh yeah like you're you're uh you're kind of vampire stealing you know um as you attack them and the damage you do is dependent on the amount of shields you build up so now it makes sense to

Speaker 1 in your

Speaker 1 potential, you pick how many potential weapons or objects you want to add to your wheel.

Speaker 1 And if I put like three or four different kinds of shields, then I'm going to be building up defense most of the time.

Speaker 1 And then every once in a while cash out with like a lucky, you know, sword that calls it all in, you know?

Speaker 1 So I have a, I have a quick question about like the core mechanic here. Is what are your options to mitigate RNG? Because it's a slot machine.
Yes.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 there's,

Speaker 1 it is a slot machine, and weapons are going to come up as you just roll and get them.

Speaker 1 The RNG mitigation comes in the form of weapons with skill checks.

Speaker 1 So, for example, a default sword, it does 15 damage, but a great sword, like a big old honking fucking buster sword, can go up to 35 damage, but there's a quick moving meter game that you have to click to time where the damage is.

Speaker 1 So the damage, you know, there's a little skill game each time you pull up, you roll a bust or something.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Another thing you can do is

Speaker 1 by not adding every single item to the slot inventory, you increase the chances of more consistent things. So it's almost like Balatro or any other game.

Speaker 1 It is, it is, it is odds, right?

Speaker 1 There is a part of it where you can go, I want the odds in my favor, so I will not add more than this so that I'll see these things more often.

Speaker 1 And consistency becomes another way to mitigate the randomness.

Speaker 1 And then finally, there's also

Speaker 1 shit. What was it? I just had it.
What did I say? There's the speed of the mini-game. There's that part.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 goddammit, I'm just blanking. But there's another way to do it too.

Speaker 1 Yes, there's an ability you can get that literally slows down the speed that the roll that the slots roll at.

Speaker 1 And it makes it like, oh,

Speaker 1 you can actually react

Speaker 1 if you are really, really sharp on the button presses.

Speaker 1 And you can see that, like, um, essentially each roller, the order is random every time, but like it slows it down in a way where if you have good enough reactions, you can kind of game the system.

Speaker 1 That's a really useful one for sure.

Speaker 1 Um, so you know, all of that means by the end, you're fighting bosses and stuff that are like way, way, way harder than you can ever RNG your way through, but you are bending the odds in your favor by doing all this, you know?

Speaker 1 And at some point, like after clearing like most of the levels, I still haven't beaten it yet, but they actually have like

Speaker 1 you know when you create like an insane build in Balatro and you just have like fucking, you know, nan-inf, like, yeah, uh, uh, insane

Speaker 1 scores.

Speaker 1 The concept of numbers crumbles to dust in the face of your malt.

Speaker 1 Not a number, infinite, right? Yes. So

Speaker 1 when you start getting to these insane

Speaker 1 setups, because you can unlock an item on your slot machine that is

Speaker 1 gives you a coin and then rolls again,

Speaker 1 or does 15 damage like a little bear trap and then rolls again.

Speaker 1 Or

Speaker 1 rolls the previous two does the effects of whatever just happened and then re-rolls the previous two slots. And then you start getting like, okay, so I got damage, damage, magic, heal, um,

Speaker 1 and then 2x, re-roll these last two, do their effect, and then one of those last two also becomes a 2x, and then it re-rolls the first two, and now you're just seeing that, that, that, that, that, that, number, number, number go.

Speaker 1 And so, like, some, some bosses and stuff eventually get the ability to be like, there is a literally like a combo breaker meter, like there's a KV that says, okay, stop. Your combo ends here.

Speaker 1 This the difficulty in fighting this boss is they're not very strong, but they can stop your infinite build-up momentum, you know? That probably has to exist, or else you would just

Speaker 1 stop everything, yes, you know. Um, so all of that is, of course, full of juice and chemicals and all that stuff, feeling good as you play it.

Speaker 1 And um, yeah, and then you start getting like, you know, enemies that are just like, okay, well, you built up a system of having high, high shields.

Speaker 1 You ignore your HP and your strength is tied to your shields. Well, here's a lich that attacks your HP directly and doesn't give a fuck about your shields.
Fuck you.

Speaker 1 So yeah,

Speaker 1 it's all this is like, it's an interesting and fun kind of game.

Speaker 1 And of course, each time you die, you get a bunch of like permanent upgrades to go spend on, you know, vampire survivors, any of these games, et cetera. And

Speaker 1 yeah, just it's fun. It's fun.

Speaker 1 I'm enjoying it.

Speaker 1 I do have a piece of news about Vampire Survivors that I don't know where to put because it's actually really old.

Speaker 1 They got Cloud Saves working on that game between PC and your phone. Like

Speaker 1 six months ago. Whoa.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, because I wanted to play Vampire Survivors on my phone because I can't play it at home, right? I can't play it. It'll kill the baby.
It'll just get them. And I was like, ah, Cloud Said.

Speaker 1 Apparently that happened a while ago. So like, yeah, now you can use your proper file on your phone and just screw up your own brain.
Sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw the announcement where Balatro crossover is happening. And it was all like, it was almost jokingly like, oh, it's just another crossover.
Oh, it's with Balatro. Okay, sure.

Speaker 1 And you're like, yeah, like, of course. I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner.

Speaker 1 You know, Vampire Survivors now has like so much content that like the recommendation for the Castlevania thing is to turn off everything you've unlocked from everything else and just play Castlevania like it's a brand new Vampire Survivors.

Speaker 1 Jesus.

Speaker 1 I mean, I will give them credit for not forcing it to be a separate release, you know, because Cadence of Hyrule is its own game. It's not a piece of DLC for, you know, Necker Dancer.

Speaker 1 A lot of times, if the company's got an IP big enough, you'd think they'd be like, no, you have to make its own separate thing. But they allowed it to be DLC.
Nintendo is.

Speaker 1 They're crazy. It's always got to be like that.

Speaker 1 But all this to say that, like, yeah, Slots of Daggers is a nice little fun

Speaker 1 roguelike that you can chip away at. And,

Speaker 1 you know, it's got that sort of

Speaker 1 progression itch of Slave Aspire type of thing as you go. So

Speaker 1 finding new build synergies is always fun. And it's very generous about what you unlock and how quickly you unlock new ways to play.
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Speaker 1 check it out. Slots and daggers.

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Speaker 1 All right,

Speaker 1 what is going on? Um,

Speaker 1 I appreciate consistency. I appreciate recurring bits.
I appreciate how every once in a while we can say things like, oh, Ubisoft, right? Oh, Ubisoft. You know, we can appreciate what's going on.

Speaker 1 What's Konami up to? Or what are the silly things happening over with her?

Speaker 1 He's like really turning it around, actually. That's weird.
And something that's beautiful that's becoming consistent is every couple of years we get to go, what's soldier boy up to

Speaker 1 it turns out i remember when he was going to change video games because he bought atari

Speaker 1 well

Speaker 1 so before that there was the classic soldier boy playing braid where it really makes me super happy that that video makes jonathan blow really upset so soldier boy playing braid calling it the dumbest game he's ever played what is this stupid shit he just goes backwards this game ain't got no point.

Speaker 1 I fucking love that.

Speaker 1 And then there was Soldier Boy

Speaker 1 buys Atari or claims to.

Speaker 1 But he asked about Atari coin. He got fucking hustled.
Sure did.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, the continuing adventures of Soulja Boy take us back to the last time we talked about it was, I want to say 2018,

Speaker 1 where he started selling drop shipping consoles, the Soulja game console, which was essentially he just, yeah, there was some China

Speaker 1 handhelds that he was doubling and tripling the price on.

Speaker 1 Good stuff, Solja Boy.

Speaker 1 So the classic,

Speaker 1 the classic just can't resist a drop shipping scheme.

Speaker 1 Once again, we find ourselves

Speaker 1 here with the announcement that

Speaker 1 there's a new Soulja Boy console. Oh, fuck off, dude.

Speaker 1 And it's a handheld.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it looks exactly like the retroid.

Speaker 1 But don't worry. It's different.

Speaker 1 And you can go buy your Soulja game

Speaker 1 Retroid pocket flip to.

Speaker 1 It just...

Speaker 1 I feel like... I feel like

Speaker 1 it's got to be somewhat in his ear, right? It's got to be like the money guy in his ear that's like yo, you got to get in on ground floor on this ground floor hustle, right?

Speaker 1 Because same thing like with the Atari coins thing.

Speaker 1 It's just like if you're if you're trying to hit that rise and grind game and someone shows up and it's like there are because drop shipping is is you know, it's a very

Speaker 1 it's a it's an established

Speaker 1 wheels are greased game for anybody at this point, right?

Speaker 1 You can go to the website and find the cost of these things that are all available, and you can order them in whatever bulk they are, and you can ask them to brand it the way you want to and give it its own name or whatever, and then just get them in bulk and start reselling it.

Speaker 1 And you never have to do anything because you just ship it from the factory that it's made at with your brand. I was Costco.
That's it.

Speaker 1 One of the ones I remember specifically was

Speaker 1 the little two-wheeled scooter things that no one really knows what to call them. It's like a segue without handles, right? Because hoverboard fucking thing.

Speaker 1 Well, so no, every name you come up with is correct because it's a drop shipped two-wheel

Speaker 1 no-handle segue, right? Some people called them the hoverboard. There was a bunch of them that were going around.
Someone called them a funky duck was a name.

Speaker 1 I thought those got pulled off the market because they were fucking dangerous.

Speaker 1 They sure are. And if you ride through traffic with them and fall off, you might die.
But hey, there's still people rolling them around in the club.

Speaker 1 There's still people rolling them around outside, you know,

Speaker 1 making videos, et cetera.

Speaker 1 It's a content thing. And all it really takes is a couple of TikToks to be like, oh, what's that? It's got lights on it.
Let's go. Woo.

Speaker 1 But yeah, whatever you want to call it, it's not just a hoverboard. There's a billion names because everyone went to a website that says you can get one and you can buy it.

Speaker 1 over here, but you have a unique link that has your name on it that says it's one of my things. And it's the same shit every time, right?

Speaker 1 So, yes, this is a this is an ongoing bit, and Soldier Boy seems to really,

Speaker 1 really,

Speaker 1 really want to get into the handheld

Speaker 1 video game market, but he also wants to make sure that you pay like four to five hundred dollars for something that costs about fifty.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 I just, um,

Speaker 1 uh, you know, the only other bit is uh, the the retroid, uh, uh, the company, the folks that, you know,

Speaker 1 made this console.

Speaker 1 Quote, I didn't know about this. This is not any kind of official licensing deal.
He does not have permission to rebrand our products and sell them as his own.

Speaker 1 The Retroid Pocket Flip 2 is patented in the U.S. by ourselves.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 you know, you can always just make a video and say that things are coming out. No one can stop you.

Speaker 1 I remember watching. I follow Guy on TikTok, who's a corporate lawyer.

Speaker 1 And he describes that his entire job

Speaker 1 every single day, nine to five, as he works for a large company, is a guy from sales comes into his office and he goes, I found a great, I got a great new idea to make money.

Speaker 1 And his job is to go, yeah, somebody thought of that 70 years ago. It's a crime.
You can't do that.

Speaker 1 And he does that just like literally all day every single day and it it's just that's where we're at now watch that's where we're at watch me so

Speaker 1 got that free money glitch crack that soldier boy so crack that soldier boy so

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it's just, and because you've seen the effort, this is the fourth time we're going around. We know that this is going to be forever, right?

Speaker 1 We're just, there's always got to be a new bit as relevance, as time goes on, as age catches up with you. We got to find a new grift.
We got to find a new hustle.

Speaker 1 We need a new single-use website because I used to go to isdmxinjail.com like almost every single day for a while.

Speaker 1 And now he's dead. So, no, he's not in jail.

Speaker 1 Is Soldier Boy scab is

Speaker 1 Soldier Boy running a grip?

Speaker 1 Your Honor, the defendant's opening statement is ya, trick, ya

Speaker 1 objection, your honor. Bring a bra, trick up bra.

Speaker 1 Sustained. Sustained.

Speaker 1 On the grounds of get out my face. Yep.
All right.

Speaker 1 Good stuff. Good stuff.

Speaker 1 If you're going to throw your money away,

Speaker 1 that's one fun way to do it. I would recommend that over

Speaker 1 the other options. There's a lot of things.

Speaker 1 You could go buy the Mortal Kombat Legacy Collection, for example.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to go look this up because I heard, but I didn't see.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you, but you've known.

Speaker 1 You're no stranger to the idea of old game legacy collections coming out and just having massively fucked up.

Speaker 1 Absolutely nothing to offer right okay so here you go you got your big old honking um collection of you know mortal kombat one two three four

Speaker 1 uh you know you're getting four

Speaker 1 uh four the 3d one the one the war gods one yeah um

Speaker 1 you're getting it of course you know 50 bucks it's that it's that full bit and

Speaker 1 Would you like to hazard a guess at

Speaker 1 what doesn't work? Would you like to okay, so I'm watching a little bit of a trailer here, and I'm seeing that it actually has way more games than I thought it was going to have.

Speaker 1 It has Special Forces, it has MK Mythology. Multiple versions, multiple versions of them across the world.
Some of the Game Boy games. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 What's going to work? I'm going to assume online play of any kind

Speaker 1 is not going to work. Ding, ding, ding.
There is online play. However,

Speaker 1 there are no lobbies of any kind.

Speaker 1 You cannot play with your friends in a lobby. You cannot play with strangers in a lobby.

Speaker 1 You cannot play ranked in a lobby or in a lobby at all. You cannot play ranked period.
What you can do is you can play quick play with random people.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 And that's about it. That's crazy.
That's shit. That's awful.

Speaker 1 You, of course, cannot play cross-play, you know, for sure.

Speaker 1 And you cannot play

Speaker 1 on a setup without horrendous lag because everything going through the game is emulated is got massive lag issues. There's weird audio issues.

Speaker 1 When you can get a match online, it's massively divided because it's particular versions of each particular game. And it's just like, what the fuck are we doing, guys?

Speaker 1 I've seen the people, like the best part of this package is apparently the documentary that it comes with, which is like a documentary about about the history of the making of Mortal Kombat or whatever.

Speaker 1 But you have to kind of, at this point, imagine that, like, looking at the treatment they give the premier product

Speaker 1 that is MK1, for example,

Speaker 1 what type of afterthought is the collection going to be? Like,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 it's not a good idea.

Speaker 1 Because there's some winners in this list. And also, the list of games here is enormous, right?

Speaker 1 Like, Mortal Kombat has like a really, really long and storied and cool history.

Speaker 1 And so, like, and I'm looking at like the menus and like the descriptions in the, in the, like, they have arcade cabinets and pictures of the, and like, yeah, this could be a big win, but you're saying that you, the online play is dog shit, and also the games themselves are horrible and laggy.

Speaker 1 They sure are.

Speaker 1 And also, I assume it doesn't include the PS2 games.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 as in, hold on, as in the Deception, Deadly Alliance. No, that trilogy.
No, no, no, not that trilogy. Of course not.

Speaker 1 The games that would be by far the most interesting to go back to because they have crazy single-player content. The menus have input lag on them, apparently.
Fucking sick.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, because you know, you have to save something for Legacy Collection Part 2, right?

Speaker 1 This really goes well with that complete collection or whatever the fuck it's called, the art book that came out that had all the old sprites present in the art book ai slopped into complete garbage

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 like every single old portrait in that entire book has been ai slopped into just trash

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 i i at some point i remember someone had like discussing the idea of like why not release a like

Speaker 1 a version of the game that just has hd or higher res scans of all the the photos they took of all the actions which they did they took super super high res photographs of all that shit that would be a fantastic thing to do you know that'd be a super cool idea but assuming that they still exist

Speaker 1 um yeah they didn't just throw them away well

Speaker 1 there there there that is and uh uh

Speaker 1 what was the other bit there oh no just every time something like this happens in the case of fighting games or so you're like you're also trying to peel people off of fight cade you know, which exists.

Speaker 1 It's not going to get you your special forces or whatever other stuff, but it's like it's there. And anyone who cares is probably playing an SNK or Capcom game.

Speaker 1 But if they're not, there is a place where they can go get good online matches of the guy fighting games and arcade games they enjoy.

Speaker 1 And you have to try to convince people to not do that with these collections.

Speaker 1 The Capcom collections had their problems, but like they look like fucking gangbusters by comparison.

Speaker 1 Dude, I got to say, like,

Speaker 1 the most Mortal Kombat thing possible to be like, look at the incredible breadth of features and games and options we included with this.

Speaker 1 Does it play well? Oh, who gives a shit? It's Mortal Kombat. Look how many characters there are.
Why would you ask that? Do you know what franchise this is? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like, God.

Speaker 1 Someone says, finish us the Mortal Kombat story.

Speaker 1 I mean, fuck.

Speaker 1 It would be super, super sick

Speaker 1 if Mortal Kombat put out like

Speaker 1 more than one good game every decade.

Speaker 1 That would be so sick if they did that.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you have to kind of

Speaker 1 look at it and go, Are they doing the exact thing to make the money every time, though?

Speaker 1 Like, are they not doing the bit where it comes out, it gets all the attention, it gets all the money, and then they don't have to keep working on it because it dies quickly, and that's actually not a bad thing.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's intended, maybe it's planned obsolescence. If the game is too good, you'd have to keep supporting it for long, and that sucks because we want to move on to the next one.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I just checked, and I have to apologize to the audience because my joke at the expense of Mortal Kombat is actually factually incorrect.

Speaker 1 I made a joke saying it'd be nice if they could release more than one good game every decade. I have now double-checked.
Mortal Kombat 2 came out in 93, and Mortal Kombat 9 came out in 2011.

Speaker 1 So there was, in fact, no good Mortal Kombat game between 2000 and 2010.

Speaker 1 And there hasn't been one since 2011. And that's unfortunate.

Speaker 1 I'll give MKX its flowers, but um you would, you know,

Speaker 1 that's yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 That's one reply, sure,

Speaker 1 sure. Um,

Speaker 1 anyways,

Speaker 1 MKX scam will come out 2015. Ooh, ooh, the two, the 2010s got two good ones, maybe.
Ooh,

Speaker 1 maybe 2020 will get a good, a good Mortal Kombat game.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 you're playing a game of averages, right? And when you set your expectation based on press performance, yeah, MK10, you're like, whoa!

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 you look at that.

Speaker 1 Anyways. I did not say that.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, yeah.
Well,

Speaker 1 how about I target you then? How do you feel about Deus Ex?

Speaker 1 there's two good games in that in that franchise there's two um there's there's only four games so it could be worse well the og remaster is uh is happening aspire has um

Speaker 1 you know put out some put out some some info from that got revealed and uh

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 the original art director has seen the remaster and i just bring this up because the exact quote

Speaker 1 that happened last week.

Speaker 1 The exact quote from the OG

Speaker 1 art director looking at the remaster is: quote, oh, what the fuck, says O'Flaherty.

Speaker 1 No, this did not need to happen. Sorry, whoever was involved in this.
Oh, man. Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 O'Flaherty continues. If you're going to do it, yeah, all right, why not? Why am I judging,

Speaker 1 bro?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 the resigned defeat.

Speaker 1 I know that, I know that you and I

Speaker 1 and like many of the people listening to this are like cringe-ass fucking video game art enjoyer, fucking loser, idiot, babies, or whatever.

Speaker 1 But like, it's getting increasingly annoying when stuff that I would personally view as like vitally important to the history of the medium in general is just slopped and shat out like garbage.

Speaker 1 Like Deus Ex is like far reaching in its influence. It's a really important game.

Speaker 1 And this is not yet in the realm of we dropped it into into the instant upscale machine and popped this out. Like, this is an attempt at making new assets, and it is just

Speaker 1 done in a poor manner. Lighting and models and everything else.

Speaker 1 What was the quote? Yeah, someone said, wow, they really turned those 1990 graphics into 2003.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 and this is just, yeah, like this. This is by a spear.
Aspire, yeah. Aspire.

Speaker 1 And it's kind of just like, as far as I understand, we are not yet looking at the AI did the whole thing, but we're about to.

Speaker 1 Aspire is in current trouble with using AI in a bunch of their other remasters. Oh, rut, row.

Speaker 1 The Tomb Raider remasters. Okay.
The Lara Cross voice actor is suing them for using AI of her shit.

Speaker 1 So more than likely, this is what we're looking at.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you saw, but when you said,

Speaker 1 well, this isn't put it into the slot machine.

Speaker 1 And I put my finger up and I went and I started typing. I just typed in Deus Aspire AI use.
And look at that. A bunch of fucking results.
Well, there we fucking go then. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Inflate the bubble. Inflate the bubble.
When I saw this trailer, I went, oh, yeah. And then I kept watching the trailer and I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 I,

Speaker 1 again,

Speaker 1 I just, I, I appreciate just the, the single,

Speaker 1 you can hear the deflation coming from the art director. Like,

Speaker 1 you know, um,

Speaker 1 I think more old game devs should drag the sequels to or remasters of their work. I think that rules.
I think it's fucking awesome when they do it.

Speaker 1 I think they're speaking from a point of like legitimate authoritative expertise to give like meat to the feeling that tons of people have. I think it's awesome.

Speaker 1 I think when Halo devs go, man, this remaster looks like crap, that's sick.

Speaker 1 I think when I think when this person starts going on about the art in this remaster being shit and going, oh, fucking, who am I? I think that's awesome. I think that's fucking great.

Speaker 1 I mean, the worst is that, like, the further back you go, the more you're looking at games where the art direction was reliant on an artist using the limitations of the medium to do cool shit, right?

Speaker 1 Like, for the blocky old game that it is, the shadows and the way that textures are displayed and everything like that, you're doing a lot.

Speaker 1 Every time you look at old

Speaker 1 CRT, you know,

Speaker 1 the blur of

Speaker 1 the way a codec portrait looks or something from Castlevania, Symphony of the Knight looks on a CRT screen versus on a on a monitor.

Speaker 1 Like you can see it, like you're using tricks of the limitations to make it look better. That's the shit that suffers the most when it gets shoved into the fucking blender here.

Speaker 1 And yeah,

Speaker 1 just

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 good, good luck, Aspire. Good, good stuff.
Just

Speaker 1 PS2 version of Deus Ex is actually weirdly, weirdly good.

Speaker 1 It has too many load screens, but like, it's, it's like, it's like complete.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 in the meantime, on the complete other end of the spectrum, when we get to the best-looking, prettiest future of video games ever,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 1 We get to our

Speaker 1 GTA 6.

Speaker 1 And hey, fun stuff. 30 to 40 layoffs for people trying to join a union.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's about right. So,

Speaker 1 Rockstar. Hey, do you want to incentivize everyone to understand why you need to join a union?

Speaker 1 Let's fire people for talking.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, Rockstar

Speaker 1 fired, laid off between 30 and 40 employees across Canada and the UK.

Speaker 1 And the the

Speaker 1 Independent Workers Union of Great Britain and

Speaker 1 so on, or basically people are looking and reporting that this seems to be 100% based on the fact that they were fired for union activity, either joining or

Speaker 1 attempting to join.

Speaker 1 So, you know,

Speaker 1 they're currently fighting that and seeing what's possible. And, you know, unsurprising.
And then Take Two, parent company, just doubles down to officially reach the statement.

Speaker 1 Fuck yeah, fuck yeah fire them get them out of here we love this shit it rules uh we fully support rockstar's ambitions and approach so you know um

Speaker 1 good stuff

Speaker 1 you have to imagine um the the higher up the parent company in the chain the the more rock solid turgid they get

Speaker 1 at the cleansing of um

Speaker 1 of unioned employees, you know?

Speaker 1 That's a direct quote. Yep.

Speaker 1 You tune in for news and you get direct quotes from me. That's how that works.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 There's a story here and it reads: Amazon have reportedly canceled their Lord of the Rings MMO again. And I went, but wait,

Speaker 1 wasn't that already canceled? Yes.

Speaker 1 And then I go, when did it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 1 What happened is, is that Amazon Gaming

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 deciding

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 maybe throwing all that money on a bunch of games that never come out or come out and they're piles of shit and don't make any money is maybe a bad idea. And

Speaker 1 I would like

Speaker 1 to, I need to find out the, I need the quote here

Speaker 1 from the VP

Speaker 1 of,

Speaker 1 where is it? Well, the vice president of, aha,

Speaker 1 here it is. This is eight months ago from Ethan Evans.

Speaker 1 Well, I think we talked about it then, but it bears repeating. As VP of Prime Gaming and at Amazon, we failed multiple times to disrupt the game platform Steam.
Oh, did you not disrupt? Was disrupted?

Speaker 1 Did disruption fail? Did it? We were at least 250 times bigger and we tried everything.

Speaker 1 Ultimately, Goliath lost. Here's why.

Speaker 1 He basically goes on and on and on and on and on about how they never actually figured out why people use Steam during the entire process.

Speaker 1 And a bunch of people have gone back to this post and keep rereading it and going, I didn't know that you could even buy games off of Prime Gaming on Amazon.

Speaker 1 And it's like, it's the largest online storefront in the world. How is there not a buy video games button at the top of the tab? How were you, you were competing with Steam? Nobody knew.
Nobody knew.

Speaker 1 What the? Because what? Because at that size, nothing smoothly rolls out. No one's paying attention to anything.
Shit can be. This guy is also like a real piece of work.

Speaker 1 He also put out a bunch of other tweets about how like I once got into a fight with my boss and then he cucked me with my wife and then fired me. So, learn from my mistakes.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, How about I don't learn from you, guy who got cucked into the unemployment line, VP of gaming in Amazon? Was that like a TED talk, or like, what?

Speaker 1 Like, no, it was just a tweet that he threw out. All right,

Speaker 1 why would I listen to you? What, what do you got to offer anybody, man?

Speaker 1 Um, uh,

Speaker 1 like, does that philosophy extend into the business decisions that are made from day to day?

Speaker 1 Is getting business cucked in fact uh like that you know what

Speaker 1 I'm gonna shoot wide on this. There's an entire genre of I fucked up my life.
Let me give you advice. How about I don't listen to you at all because you're an idiot and you fucked up your life.

Speaker 1 Um why would I listen to you?

Speaker 1 I'm going the other way on this.

Speaker 1 I'm going business cucking is like, hey, jokes on you. My shit's failing, and I'm into that shit.

Speaker 1 I'm sitting in the chair as these projects are shutting down. I'm shortening this chair.

Speaker 1 You're watching the stonks drop into the abyss, and you're just jorking it. You're getting super fucking turgid off of those red laws.
Is this like

Speaker 1 solo voyeur fin domming yourself?

Speaker 1 but you're watching as, like, the stonks are hurting everybody else, and you're just, yeah, you're getting way on board, you know? Um, go shit your pants in a subway or something. Just fucking, just

Speaker 1 go, get all these freaks out of the fucking economy, please. Just stop.
Business cucks, that's new shit. Don't write that down.
Don't write that down. You can't tell.
You can't tell.

Speaker 1 You can't tell by my heads.

Speaker 1 You don't know what my heads are.

Speaker 1 When my heads do this, you don't know what's happening. Stop assuming.
You don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 You can't tell what I'm typing. How dare you assume? That's crazy.

Speaker 1 As you hear my voice absentmindedly wander and the sounds of clicking.

Speaker 1 There's a really fun experience of doing

Speaker 1 the podcast this way because you'll say something and you'll see my eyes dot over and you hear

Speaker 1 obviously looking up what you just told me

Speaker 1 it's like it's like the therapist with the notepad going

Speaker 1 yes you know what are you writing what are you writing there what are you writing drawing dicks actually really really detailed

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 no it's it's it's important you know and and i was gonna say that the baseline to remember is that like this company launched the luna So, every decision that makes more sense than that, like, this is as this is their baseline, you know?

Speaker 1 And I don't think he's ever going to get us turned on as that level of failure ever again.

Speaker 1 So, it's all unfortunately downhill from here.

Speaker 1 But maybe that downhill is uphill, you know?

Speaker 1 I remember like the Luna was such a failure that I had to get, like, like first impressions from like the one guy in chat. Well, like I couldn't even find first impressions.
Stadia.

Speaker 1 We tracked down there were people that got hands-on stadia. Yeah.
Luna just didn't exist.

Speaker 1 Lunatics claimed to be real, but

Speaker 1 anyways.

Speaker 1 All right. So yeah, the detail I missed there was that in 2023, the Lord of the Rings MMO was restarted development with Tencent.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, so there you go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to tell you this right now, as somebody who's played a fair number of MMOs. Lord of the Rings, not a good setting.

Speaker 1 Middle-earth. Highly limited setting.
It is a highly limiting setting. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't Middle-earth bad setting for an MMO? It's not a good setting.

Speaker 1 It's just not.

Speaker 1 If anything, I'm kind of just wondering: like, have

Speaker 1 Warner not scraped every aspect of everything that can be a game out of that world already? You know, have, have, like, when they were holding the exclusive rights,

Speaker 1 I feel like they went for it aggressively over and over again. Yeah, you want to talk about aggressive monetization?

Speaker 1 I have a typing game for you to play right now, Wooly. Are you ready?

Speaker 1 Are you at your computer?

Speaker 1 I would like you to try and go buy Lord of the Rings, The War for the North, the real-time strategy game. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 I would like you to give that a shot.

Speaker 1 The War for the North, 2011. We're talking about...
Oh my God, Snowblind. I went to that studio.
It's a good game, by the way. It's a pretty good game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I went to Seattle and did QA for them in-house for Justice League Heroes. Yeah.
Hey, guess what? It's a trick goal. You can't buy it.

Speaker 1 It's literally just not available.

Speaker 1 Can't buy it.

Speaker 1 Good ass licensed RPG. Just can't buy it.
No longer available in the Steam store, but there is a Steam page.

Speaker 1 Isn't that great?

Speaker 1 The top link leads you to a community discussion page,

Speaker 1 which has the top post, which is just the guy going, wish I could get this.

Speaker 1 Damn, seems fun.

Speaker 1 Maybe you should make MMOs with licenses you actually own, huh?

Speaker 1 Could you imagine if like World of Warcraft or Final Fantasy XIV was just like, dude, rights licensing issue, service will end in one year?

Speaker 1 Could you fucking imagine?

Speaker 1 Well, look, speaking of service ending,

Speaker 1 unlikely hero Concorde

Speaker 1 came up this week because

Speaker 1 for all its time as a punchline, Concorde is actually contextually heroic because it gets brought up in a UK government debate on video game consumer laws. And

Speaker 1 the actual quote

Speaker 1 was that

Speaker 1 I'm going to skip past past all the bullshit there. Concorde is one of the few games that actually

Speaker 1 refunded everybody.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that's true. That is true.
And

Speaker 1 they get that as

Speaker 1 a boy. They get it out of boy.
For doing that.

Speaker 1 A recent example is Concorde, released for the PS5 and Windows in August 2024. Following a disappointing launch, Sony made a commercial decision to shut it down.

Speaker 1 But to their credit, they did refund all purchases, but this isn't always the case,

Speaker 1 which they go on to then discuss when games are, you know, can steal people's money, shut down, and then not give them back their cash, right? Yeah. So

Speaker 1 that bare minimum is now a high bar that we're reaching for. So everyone, think back fondly and play I Will Remember You in Your Head.

Speaker 1 As you think about a character from that game, think about them in your head. Think about them.
You got it? What's their name?

Speaker 1 What's the character name? No Googling.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I thought.

Speaker 1 Anyways.

Speaker 1 Hey, what's up?

Speaker 1 Beyond that,

Speaker 1 there's

Speaker 1 the Nintendo versus PAL World

Speaker 1 War. That's gone to an interesting fucking place.
It's heating up. It's heating up.
Things are confusing.

Speaker 1 And gone, are you fucking for real, dog? Are you serious with this? Apparently,

Speaker 1 the one of their patent submissions that was used as groundwork for the case was not actually fully accepted

Speaker 1 when the case started. And the patent office then came back and essentially rejected the idea that monster capture was

Speaker 1 originally theirs because it's way too broad. It's ubiquitous and predates Pokemon.

Speaker 1 And then they give examples of that as well. So

Speaker 1 this is not going well for Nintendo.

Speaker 1 They give prior examples of monster capture in third-party games, including Arc, Monster Hunter 4,

Speaker 1 a browser game called Kantai Collection, Pokemon Go, and Pocket Pears, Craftopia.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 they seem kind of fucked on this, that they're going after Power World, but they didn't go after Craftopia. Craftopia.
Despite the fact that it has all that shit in it. Oh, oopsie.
Oopsie, you fucks.

Speaker 1 So, but at the same time, it's like it's not a standing rejection in the sense that like this can progress and go on.

Speaker 1 So it's a whole complicated thing with the way that the patent patent office works. But overall,

Speaker 1 little twist.

Speaker 1 And then Chaser is

Speaker 1 according to a Japanese attorney commenting on the case,

Speaker 1 legal expert

Speaker 1 suspects that Nintendo might not be able to recoup legal expenses of the lawsuit, even if it wins. Oh, wow, interesting.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 it's, it might just be fucky wucky all the way around, no matter what the results are at this point.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 good job, Nintendo. I'm glad you're wasting everyone's fucking time with this.

Speaker 1 It's, it's, it's interesting because it, it, it does sound like you have your legal team pushing out the lawsuit in one direction and scribbling on patents on the other side and pushing those to get those approved at the same time and then pointing at them and going, look, look, see

Speaker 1 ridiculous

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 yeah only other thing uh

Speaker 1 just in terms of some fighting game shit that was going on a 14 year old won the uh

Speaker 1 street fighter six major this weekend uh

Speaker 1 that's crazy now

Speaker 1 from reject youth

Speaker 1 A 14-year-old with two years of gaming experience, only 11 months playing the game, won the Capcom Cup qualifier and has a slot at Capcom Cup. That's crazy.
Which is nuts.

Speaker 1 Good for them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And, you know,

Speaker 1 we used to talk about like, oh, you know, like, I mean, Justin has talked about this many times, but just like, yeah, like teenage reactions in the arcade, nothing can beat that.

Speaker 1 If you're over, if you're over 30, what are you doing? Just drive impact. They can't stop it.
They can't react to that shit, you know.

Speaker 1 But right before that,

Speaker 1 Blaz, who got second place at Capcom Cup 11, was 15 years old. So like the children are coming online.
They're looking at all the tech and they're becoming aware within a matter of months, you know?

Speaker 1 They're getting stronger.

Speaker 1 They have all the reflexes and power that they always did, but now the data is there.

Speaker 1 You know, and all they need is like a cousin that just watches like tournaments to just pull them aside and be like, yo, fucking run this, do this, to just run sets with somebody who's really good.

Speaker 1 And it's over.

Speaker 1 On top of that, the

Speaker 1 Kakaru, Kakeru, who won

Speaker 1 first place against Blaz, the 15-year-old, just retired.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, as well. So, you know,

Speaker 1 that's one of those things where

Speaker 1 you hate to hear about that for health reasons. But

Speaker 1 it's kind of crazy just seeing like the amount of new younger kids born

Speaker 1 in 2011.

Speaker 1 What's his kids' name? Uh,

Speaker 1 he now.

Speaker 1 I am watching them just stomp Tokedo. Oh, yeah, clip right now.

Speaker 1 Like, Ryu and Luke player beats Tokedo, beats punk, wins the event.

Speaker 1 Um, born, yeah, born in Chex Notes 2011.

Speaker 1 Okay, man. Did you ever hear about fucking Skyrim? It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Came into existence as we were starting to do YouTube.

Speaker 1 That child is a dark souls old.

Speaker 1 One best friend's channel old.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's it.
The career. The career, that was life.
And here we are. Yeah.
Oh, no. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 What's up? Child did not exist before Street Fighter 4. Of course not.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 fuck.

Speaker 1 It's only going to get worse from here. So.

Speaker 1 You never even had a chance to be an 09er.

Speaker 1 So Wooly, I, I, you know, we have babies now. We have, we have our little, little baby children who are, who are tiny versions of ourselves.
And, um,

Speaker 1 and, uh, we're both into games quite a lot. And I played some Atari as a child, but mainly NES onwards.
And, um,

Speaker 1 uh, we occupy in our age range, um, uh the same position that your grandpa did who was there when movies got talking in them

Speaker 1 just there from the beginning and saw every movie that has ever made come out in a theater

Speaker 1 when did the talkies start

Speaker 1 oh

Speaker 1 talkie started in the 1920s

Speaker 1 1926 to 1930 yeah okay

Speaker 1 all right i've seen all those things of like here's when color tvs switch to color all around the world in different places.

Speaker 1 Fuck me. But like, like, like you, you're there at the beginning.
And so, you know, your daughter will be like 10, 11, 12. And she'll be like, wow, it's weird.

Speaker 1 You know about like all the video games that have ever come out? And you'll be like, yeah, they were invented when I was born. I think, no, I think the big one, the big one is going to be internet.

Speaker 1 Being the last generation that's pre-internet.

Speaker 1 yeah, oh, yeah, nobody knows what it's going to be like to be offline, you know, uh, beyond us. Like, that's going to be it.

Speaker 1 Um, how'd you, how'd your mom, how'd your mom get a hold of you when you when you went to the the movies? Oh, I just wandered around for hours

Speaker 1 and they just hoped I didn't get kidnapped and killed, I guess. That was curfew.
We had you had a curfew that said, be back by this time, or you got in trouble. End of that was it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 anyway

Speaker 1 uh i i um

Speaker 1 also just a little side note on on on soul death there but uh

Speaker 1 just chatting with reggie about the fact that um

Speaker 1 the the hype could not maintain long enough so that by the time chunly dropped in city of the wolves uh he would not even get to play her because it just it it it it fizzled

Speaker 1 that fucking that's brutal imagine looking and seeing a character that you want to show up in something.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? Sorry, Chun Li got announced for City of the Wolves.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Fatal Fury.

Speaker 1 Okay. And she's in that? Yeah, she's in.
She's in. Chun Li, Chun Li.
They showed a trailer. When did that happen? That happened like yesterday.
Bro, I didn't even see that. Okay, sorry.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Sorry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they did the big Chun Li My Hey, look, the boobies.

Speaker 1 You know, she's she's thick.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. I didn't even see that.
Oh, that's like it's Odin.

Speaker 1 And, and it's just, it's like, like, you can see in the future, it's like your main, the character you love, is here, but will,

Speaker 1 will it last till that point?

Speaker 1 No, nope, nope. Um, anyways.

Speaker 1 That's hilarious. Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 Don't even get me started on the fucking Sam Show money.

Speaker 1 They're like,

Speaker 1 Sam show money. They're like, okay, this year was a crazy, like, ah, Sam Show's on its way out.
It's going to have one last crazy hurrah with $1.5 million attached to it.

Speaker 1 And then they're like, next year it's coming back and there's going to be a $4.5 million prize pool. And it's just like, oh, my God.

Speaker 1 For who? Oh, my God. Like the six guys and you? Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. For anyone that cares.

Speaker 1 not if I got a fucking

Speaker 1 fly there to do it.

Speaker 1 I don't know, anyway. Um,

Speaker 1 let's take some letters. Uh, hey, before we take it, I fuck it, I don't even care.

Speaker 1 If you want to send in, you want to send in some letters, go ahead to castlesuperbeastmail at gmail.com. That's castle superbeastmail.
I love it.

Speaker 1 Love that.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Let's see here.

Speaker 1 All right. A guy from Finland asks, dear fathers

Speaker 1 of Patrickson and Woolly Daughter. Hey, what's up? That is kind of the naming convention.
That is crazy out there.

Speaker 1 Long time listener, first-time questioner, any favorite examples of questions that could have gone unanswered? For example, in Mass Effect, what do quarians look like without a mask?

Speaker 1 No need to answer it.

Speaker 1 That's the one.

Speaker 1 That's the one.

Speaker 1 You ruined your email in concept. Yep.
That's the one. By picking the most perfect example.
Master Chief, etc., comes after that, you know.

Speaker 1 Anyone who wears a mask all the time should not take it off.

Speaker 1 You should get at best like a

Speaker 1 shot of them putting on the mask. Like, you know, the Darth Vader shot where you see the back of his heads all fucked up, but then he puts the mask on.

Speaker 1 And Samus doesn't apply because you could see her face from day one, but it was all pixelated and whatever, you know, but that was always there. So she works.

Speaker 1 Anyone with a mask, 100%.

Speaker 1 I think a huge, huge proportion of mysteries that get answered in all fiction should just not be answered at all. Yeah, but as time goes on,

Speaker 1 the resist,

Speaker 1 the urge is too strong to just fill in the gaps. Like, like,

Speaker 1 the oh, here's the answer. Oh, and like 90% of the time, the answer sucks.

Speaker 1 I got one. How many loads did Heihatchi drop

Speaker 1 in

Speaker 1 fertile

Speaker 1 young women across the world?

Speaker 1 And Harada has answered that to say

Speaker 1 no fewer than 18.

Speaker 1 You didn't need to answer that.

Speaker 1 You should have just been like, nah, he got around. Just say he got around.

Speaker 1 Well, no, no. We know that there are at least 19

Speaker 1 bastard children in

Speaker 1 for the entire franchise to carry forward indefinitely. All right, fuck it.
Tekken nine. let's go.

Speaker 1 Okay, Wooly, I'm going to go for a deep pull. Do you remember the Need for Speed series? Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. You remember how Need for Speed did not feature Porsches for a while for some fucking reason? I think they were missing from four.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But then for Need for Speed five, I think it was, they got the Porsche license, and then that game was all Porsche.

Speaker 1 Porsches.

Speaker 1 And it was fucking stupid, right? Tekken nine. Tekken nine.
Battle of the bastards.

Speaker 1 All of them. Battle of the bastards,

Speaker 1 Doria. Uh-huh, yep, totally.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 and I mean, the age ranges are like massive and all the way across, but you know, I'm sure there's a four-year-old in there that's got a little bit of electricity, bro.

Speaker 1 How old's Heihachi? He's pretty fucking old, right? Infinity, yeah. Okay, so you know what? You want to do Heihachi Mishima is dead? Here comes Heihachi 2.

Speaker 1 Just actually, he had this kid first before Kazia

Speaker 1 his hair balded in the same way.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. It's like the same guy.
Hey, Hachi. Just a little younger.
Hey, Hachi had a teenage pregnancy, right? Wait, what? Did Heyhachi had a teenage pregnancy? No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, like, you know, like, like, like pregnant teens, like, like, when that happens on whatever TV shows.

Speaker 1 So him, he, him, and some other girl back in school, just that, they got pregnant young. And so there's a really, there's another Heihachi that's not that far from his age.

Speaker 1 And he looks like he did in Tekken 3. He's that old.
Okay, there. Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 Also, unanswered questions that got answered.

Speaker 1 Apparently, there's more than one ogre. There are ogres on every continent, actually.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Miadi Zoe confirms that there is an ogre for every continent.

Speaker 1 Ogres all around. Continents aren't even real.
Continents aren't even real.

Speaker 1 The spirit knows where the lines are drawn. The spirit knows that Australia over there, we consider it to be its own thing.

Speaker 1 Continents aren't even real. They're

Speaker 1 political designations. And if Australia ever joined any other union, then that ogre would cease to be.

Speaker 1 There's many ogres. Here Here comes Miyadi Zoe.

Speaker 1 I just want my Aztec fighter, man. It's not that hard.

Speaker 1 Apparently, it's super hard. Apparently, it's really hard.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Aztec Fighter has like the worst track record of almost any archetype ever. Absolutely batshit.

Speaker 1 They either job or they just never, or they can't show up again. Or when they do, here you go.
I mean, Nikali got like Game of Thrones season ending memory hold.

Speaker 1 Like Nikali might as well be erased from history. I'm not against, here's the thing.
I'm not even against the

Speaker 1 waifu reboot characters because, hey, Aki's great, right? We love her. She's cool.

Speaker 1 I would like to hold up my hand and only say that I am against Tekken's waifu reboot characters.

Speaker 1 Okay. Specifically, fairy.

Speaker 1 If you made a Tekken lady

Speaker 1 that looked different

Speaker 1 at all,

Speaker 1 then yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 But also

Speaker 1 with the asterisk, Aki is great because we had to deal with Fang.

Speaker 1 But Aki is something like super weird and unique.

Speaker 1 And similarly,

Speaker 1 now I'm like, yeah, Rufus, let's go.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 I'll never, I will never be there. No, I'm like, you know what?

Speaker 1 big, you got a big fat guy. Let's do it.
Um, I also like Bob. I think he's cool, the Samo Hung type, you know, Bob's way cooler than Bob.

Speaker 1 Bob is way cooler as far as a fat fighter goes.

Speaker 1 But, like, if you were to like, if you were to lean into that and bring that back now, it would, it would be unique. It would be different.
Um,

Speaker 1 all this to say that uh, an ogre for every

Speaker 1 an ogre for every continent, according to the UN,

Speaker 1 is, is not what anyone asked for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, if you're going to reveal some secret piece of information, you have to kill it. You have to apply, it has to be like

Speaker 1 solid, like rock solid.

Speaker 1 If it's anything other than like the best reveal ever, then just fucking let it be a mystery. What are the Reapers in fucking Mass Effect

Speaker 1 is just as bad as what Aquarian looks like.

Speaker 1 It's just as bad

Speaker 1 okay mass effect as a whole is that issue because all these amazing questions in part one and then you i answered them and it's boring yeah yeah

Speaker 1 i mean at least you never actually go to the fucking um volus planet or the um um what do we call it

Speaker 1 uh the volus and the uh the tall the tall guys what are they called again the um

Speaker 1 The Alcor. At least you never go see it and they don't fuck up that conversation.
You know?

Speaker 1 But Jesus, like, I'm sure somewhere on the cutting room floor, the Alcor planet was like a potential scene that was removed. You know what? I'm going to expand what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 And Mass Effect's a really good example. So when you don't know anything and things aren't well defined, your setting is infinite.

Speaker 1 And I think Mass Effect's a really incredible example of what happens when when you just make decisions that artificially limit the types of places, things, and characters that can exist in your setting.

Speaker 1 Like every single piece of information you learn in Mass Effect 2 and 3 violently limits the scope of the setting.

Speaker 1 I just want to I want to clarify that when I'm talking about the Volus gas fart home world, et cetera,

Speaker 1 as a concept to go visit that place, now that I have completed that trilogy and know the limitations of what they were doing and how that would have been fucked up and probably sucked, I'd rather not go.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It would not have been good.
It would have sucked. It's better

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 be the coolest place ever, but it'll never live up to the

Speaker 1 conversation.

Speaker 1 Because now that we know that everything that they built up in the first game cannot be lived up to,

Speaker 1 I don't want to see it anymore.

Speaker 1 If they delivered on anything that was cool, if, you know at all then yes but in concept it's never going to match that conversation because nothing else did it's a really interesting situation because like there's a really old-fashioned um entertainment adage that works really well for for games and movies which is make sure to leave them wanting more

Speaker 1 yeah i like that's kind of the the the the peak of it yeah you know and like nothing is as cool as like the auto-completed details that your brain fills in, the blanks with.

Speaker 1 Man,

Speaker 1 it was so crazy to like come at come out the other end of this Mass Effect trilogy and then realize that like those exact points of like highlight that were so sick about the setting in the original were what everyone else kind of thought were the best parts too.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it's, it's, yeah, um, it's, it's like, um,

Speaker 1 it's almost like in Metal Gear when it was like coming out the other side of four and realizing that, like, oh, yeah, no, the boss is the best thing ever.

Speaker 1 And we all agreed, and that's why the lore got all fucked up. You know, same thing, except in the opposite sense, because

Speaker 1 you can't possibly live up to what you set up there, you know, and whatever, writers and all the complications of schedules aside. You know,

Speaker 1 I mean, Metal Gear is a really good example because you and I spent hours and hours and hours and hours and hours discussing parts of the plot. And then MGS4 came out and was like, hey, guess what?

Speaker 1 Here's the answer answer to every question you had. And it's the same answer to every question you had.
And it's wildly unsatisfying. But Kojima was at the mantle for every one of those projects.

Speaker 1 At no point did some guest director step in and be like, I'm taking over and redirecting Kojima's vision here.

Speaker 1 You know what? I have the ultimate. I have the absolute best example

Speaker 1 of

Speaker 1 questions that should not have been answered. I don't think anything will top this.

Speaker 1 I think that that fucking Evangelian PS2 game should have not included all that fucking super detailed background on what the fucking angels are, on what the fucking black egg is,

Speaker 1 or any of that fucking shit. Because none of that shit matters.
The ancient race. None of that shit matters.
The ancient race

Speaker 1 And the moons and Adam and Eve.

Speaker 1 Oh, the lore lore. That deep, deep, deep shit.
None of that shit. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 No one knows about that shit either. You got a wiki dive.

Speaker 1 You and me fucking know about that shit. You got a wiki dive hard.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 So the progenitor race and every detail of Ava, all they're out there if you're willing to go scrape for it and find out exactly what angels suck and the imparable

Speaker 1 what the angels are, why they're here, why we're here, what the geofront is, all that shit. Fucking terrible.
You're not, you, the viewer, are not supposed to know.

Speaker 1 Gendo supposed to know, and Fuyutsuki's supposed to know, and maybe some of the Sele guys, but the context and perspective of Evangelion is that of characters who are cut out of the loop and not prepared to deal with it.

Speaker 1 It is actively harmful

Speaker 1 to that television show and movies narrative to know any of that shit.

Speaker 1 But because it happens after the thing is done and exists in the form of this random fucking wiki dive, I kind of like, it doesn't feel like real.

Speaker 1 It's just information coming after, so you can just not care. Like, it doesn't bother me as much to have that expounded upon after the fact, you know, versus

Speaker 1 finding out about Minichlorians midway through

Speaker 1 your prequel. I would burn the PS2 Dead Sea scrolls if I had access to them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just, it's the, the method of delivery doesn't bother me. So I'm fine with it.
Oh, no, it's not the method. I don't think that information should exist for you or I at all.

Speaker 1 I think the only thing it can do is hurt the story. What do you think about

Speaker 1 when like there's notes, liner notes for like a story that a director has in like an art book or something that like solve or explain something that was never shown?

Speaker 1 I would put that along the lines of guy who wrote the soprano accidentally spoiling the ending of the nearby.

Speaker 1 for example we pretty much know exactly what went down with nero the first time with that arm change moment especially with the novels and all that other stuff and then the whole body and then the dt form in the art book that was never used from back then etc

Speaker 1 but if you're just going off what the game tells you it's a couple lines and then it's dead and then

Speaker 1 whatever who knows cutting room floor you know Yeah,

Speaker 1 there's just something about it where it's like, it comes afterwards in a fucking deep deep art book, thus I'm impervious to it.

Speaker 1 And I'm saying this as the person who went into the lore of the Patchy Slot Guilty Gear to find out about Soul and Sin's assault on the

Speaker 1 mages. You know what I mean? To find out about the true nature of Izuna and what happened truly the first time the man entered the backyard.

Speaker 1 Only if you play Overture can you find this information out. But

Speaker 1 who cares? Duel one, let's rock.

Speaker 1 Volcanic Viper.

Speaker 1 As I have gotten older, part of the thing that I've realized I've been doing is I've been focusing more on like the emotional through line of a story and its thematic core rather than, but how did that guy get there?

Speaker 1 Where'd that alien ship come from? And like at the end of the day, like a lot of that shit like doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 I don't always hate it, but it just depends on how it's executed. It depends on the type of setting.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, like

Speaker 1 sometimes you can pull the camera back, go somewhere else, follow someone else during a thing, and it's like, oh, that's interesting. You know, what was going on over here? Or what's the lore on that?

Speaker 1 And what's this? Or, you know, whatever, whatever the case is.

Speaker 1 But then there's an extent to which you can exhaust that. And I'd say,

Speaker 1 fucking Gundam, you see the one-year war where it's like, okay, there are good one-year war stories and there are bad ones. And then there are just so many that like you can do a Jack Bauer 24 style.

Speaker 1 It was a big war. But you have so many perspectives of what happened at this point because there's always one more story that took place during that year.

Speaker 1 Did you know that the one-year war actually happened across a lot of places and there were a lot of fights? And do you know at the end of the day

Speaker 1 that there were some cool robots?

Speaker 1 Also, I don't know what else the rest of Gundam's trying to say, but I do know that there are some cool robots. Also, one year is relative and space is large.

Speaker 1 Therefore, space and time can really mean that things can last.

Speaker 1 Anyway, that's not true. The one year designation in almost every sci-fi universe is always one solar year.

Speaker 1 from one terran year whatever whatever whatever you want to yes well you see universal century using the actual timeline yeah um in any case um yeah no and then and then somewhere between those cooler robots we get uh hot boy band we get lesbians and all kinds of other cool going on you know

Speaker 1 Do you remember the Batman film The Dark Knight?

Speaker 1 Probably pretty well because that was a pretty big movie. And I'm sure we both watched it a bunch of times.
Oh, multiple. It was great.
So when Joker's in the parade and Bruce Wayne is

Speaker 1 sneaking around through the

Speaker 1 fucking

Speaker 1 apartment that has like the fake rifle in it, right? That he was only able to find by reconstructing the bullet and all that shit.

Speaker 1 And like there's a trap waiting for him, despite how could Joker have known that he was gonna be there?

Speaker 1 Wouldn't it have been so much more interesting if we had a scene in which Joker explains his plan for how he knew Batman was gonna show up to that apartment?

Speaker 1 Wouldn't that have been so much more interesting? Like, no, it wouldn't have.

Speaker 1 The way more interesting thing is, like, he didn't, he just assumed someone would find it.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 the ultimate version of that is:

Speaker 1 what if we followed Dio's point of view

Speaker 1 could you imagine?

Speaker 1 Like, I'm like all the way across from running down that staircase and replacing Paul Doref to just giggling on the way back up, right?

Speaker 1 And then just twirling Poochie's hair and then just hanging out in bed. And then, oh, okay, hold on.
Time for me to run around and plant some some beads, right?

Speaker 1 Okay, and now we got to grab some women. And now we got just, it's, it's deeply unserious.

Speaker 1 Dio's journal from day to day is absolutely cloud shoes.

Speaker 1 You know, um, but boy, oh boy, there's something deep inside of me that wants to see it. I want to know every day what life was like.

Speaker 1 Dio's big day,

Speaker 1 Dio's big century

Speaker 1 he's a busy man and he fucks

Speaker 1 a lot

Speaker 1 yeah yeah

Speaker 1 uh you know did uh now i gotta go to italy for a while

Speaker 1 you know

Speaker 1 at what point does he realize that he's with with jonathan's body that like

Speaker 1 you know

Speaker 1 he's still got uh

Speaker 1 he's got little

Speaker 1 little Jonathan sperm with little Dio Hair on it. Like, at what point does he realize that

Speaker 1 you could use someone else's body to

Speaker 1 it's the fucking gayest shit that's ever

Speaker 1 it's so fucking

Speaker 1 like I never like I just like oh I'm using his body to impregnate people and create new men like oh my fucking God dude

Speaker 1 Jesus fucking Christ if you want to ship theo and jonathan together i mean

Speaker 1 yeah all right

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 no that's

Speaker 1 i hey araki

Speaker 1 you're doing it um there anyway they wrote a book about dio and they still there still isn't enough time to cover what the fuck he's up to from his point of view

Speaker 1 All right, that'll do. It's fucking so stupid that he lost.
Like, every every piece of information you add to Dio's, like, big day is like, what?

Speaker 1 You could have had, like, a thousand stand users attack the Stardust Crusaders all at once. I mean, he traveled the world strategically.

Speaker 1 making stand users and not only with the fucking arrow, but finding the natural born ones as well and convincing them to join him. Some by seed and by the bud, bud, others with just charisma.

Speaker 1 And some were just like down with it right away. Right away.
Absolutely. And the whole horse was like, yeah, sure.
Fuck it. You know, while, again, planting seeds, while knocking people up just

Speaker 1 worldwide, all day, every day, non-stop, and still having time to pose when the fly is next to him. And then

Speaker 1 he's, you know, still has time when the Joe Stars need him. All right.

Speaker 1 Listen, listen.

Speaker 1 Poochie,

Speaker 1 I know we got to twirl hairs and I got all these people to impregnate and bud and all that, but Polnareff's almost back up to the top of the staircase.

Speaker 1 Can you give me five seconds? Okay.

Speaker 1 I need to put him over my shoulder.

Speaker 1 And it is my favorite part about this. This is my favorite part.
It's a really long staircase. So

Speaker 1 he has to do the whole staircase in two

Speaker 1 seconds. All the way.
Like, he has to be sprinting his shit off because he doesn't have nine seconds yet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pose. He doesn't have nine seconds yet.
He's got to resume. He's got to mark an X and know exactly where to return to a million percent.

Speaker 1 You know, um, he's got to put fucking minions' heads on dogs to make sure that they could bark and talk in yak

Speaker 1 like really fast. Like, he's sweating.
He's like he's waiting at tables, and a party of 20 just came in.

Speaker 1 Energy, it's the best, best. It's the fucking best.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 That'll do.

Speaker 1 Have a good week, everybody. Be safe.