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Speaker 1 Hey, Wolves, how you doing?

Speaker 1 Today you wear the wake the makeup, but you are not the clown, sir. Oh, yeah, is that so? How's that?

Speaker 1 But you are, you are not the clown.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, why, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 in response to the

Speaker 1 in response to yo

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 1 so um

Speaker 1 I uh I I

Speaker 1 I forgot I just I just straight up lost track of it, you know

Speaker 1 What are we talking about? We're talking about the Say Jam slam the slay jam slam or the box jam slam the BJ slam correct which you which you brought up to me properly ahead of time before.

Speaker 1 Apparently I'm quite low on the mix, which is the first time that's ever been the case. That is

Speaker 1 strange.

Speaker 1 I don't want to drag you up. No, you don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 Too much here. What if I just kick up my gain output volume?

Speaker 1 Okay, you could try that.

Speaker 1 What if I just do this?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, that's the opposite. No, my input volume is already at maximum.
I can't I can't kick it up higher on myself okay

Speaker 1 okay okay okay let's see I'll bring you up on the desktop that should be fine I'll just do that all right all right there we go

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah no so obviously the box jam slam for 2xko which is going on now

Speaker 1 which is which is going on and yeah

Speaker 1 you know congrats you got in there thank you I've been bugging say Jam about getting in on these for a while. And the Street Fighter one, I didn't get in, and then I missed the other two.

Speaker 1 Oh, you went for it. Okay, I missed the other two.
Yeah, and

Speaker 1 you had a friend as well that was doing it. It was during MACFest or so.

Speaker 1 I don't remember that even at all. Shit.
Okay. But that could be true, but I can't remember.
I have too many events that have happened in my life. Well, in any case,

Speaker 1 you properly brought that that up ahead of time. And I was like, right, yes,

Speaker 1 that is a thing. And just shit going on, completely forgot about it.
And then when you mentioned it again, I was like, that, yes. And I went to go look.

Speaker 1 And it was like, okay, the training is happening. It was four days ahead.
It wasn't the day before, admittedly.

Speaker 1 You finished the story. I'll tell you the behind the story.
Yeah, so

Speaker 1 the way the SageM told it, he's like, literally, he's like, bro, it's tomorrow. What the fuck is wrong with you? And I'm like, that's not how the time is.
It wasn't the day before, but

Speaker 1 it was still definitely late for when

Speaker 1 the sign-up sheet got posted. And,

Speaker 1 yeah, and it's like, oh, and it was just like, yeah, dude, like, we just finished going through the bracket and stuff. Sorry, you know, and I was like, nah, fair enough.
That's on me. You know, and

Speaker 1 then I saw the clip. Yeah, so, like, so here, so here's the here's the underneath story.
There's, there's a whole underneath story.

Speaker 1 I wish there were that many O's in yo, but I don't yo that long.

Speaker 1 Man, you know, you know, Sajam was like super excited to tell that story because he told the same story twice the same way back to back. He's like, No, no, no, I want to say it again.

Speaker 1 I want to say it again. Okay.
All right, so here's what happened, right? So, I got into the Sajam slam and I got the confirmation. I got invited to the Discord, yada, yada, right?

Speaker 1 And I hop on and I ended up playing like a bunch of practice matches with Javi from iHeartJustice, who's really cool, very nice, new friend. Love that guy.

Speaker 1 Friend of Lithero, didn't know that.

Speaker 1 And Sajam comes in and we start talking. And I like the topic of like, hey, how come Pulley isn't here? And he explains the story to me, right?

Speaker 1 And then I go,

Speaker 1 bro, that's crazy. When did he contact you? And we like cross-referenced my texts for me being like, when I told you I had to move the podcast next week, that's when you went, oh, shit.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 1 million percent. And so me, Paige, and Sajan and Javi are all laughing about this.

Speaker 1 And then afterwards, Paige is like, oh, you don't think we like laugh too hard at like Willie's expense because he was late. Like, no.
And then I'm watching Sajan's stream.

Speaker 1 And he's blowing you up on the whole thing. And I'm like, oh, wow, we were definitely not too mean about it.
Holy shit, Satan. No, that is, that is exactly it.
That was, look at my phone. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 And, and, uh, uh, what I, yeah, and what I was trying to, and I said, I went over to the Twitter and I saw the, the dates posted. And, uh, it's in three days.

Speaker 1 But, so, so, the first one, and then the others are for November, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And, uh, so for the six, seven, and eight, I was looking at those. I was like, I was like, uh-uh.
it doesn't mention what time it was going to start.

Speaker 1 So I just shot a message to be like, any idea what time? Because I wasn't too sure because one of those days there's a baby stuff. And

Speaker 1 so I was trying to figure that part out. And he was just like, dude.
And I was like, yeah, all right, all right, all right. So I saw, you know,

Speaker 1 when I texted you, hey, man, I got in, I have to move it.

Speaker 1 At that exact second, it was too late. Yeah, okay, okay.
Because I had already been confirmed to be

Speaker 1 right.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that being said, of course,

Speaker 1 yeah, I still

Speaker 1 the slams, for those who don't know, are these really awesome streamer and coach-based fighting game events that he's been running. And

Speaker 1 the backstory is so ridiculous to me in the sense that

Speaker 1 that shit that... does so much

Speaker 1 officially to bring up the profile of these games and it gets a lot of eyeballs on them, especially when a lot of streamers participate and have fun together with their communities. And the fact that

Speaker 1 the setup of varying skill levels is like the most interesting fucking thing possible. Yeah, Pro-Am.
Pro-Am is exactly the way to put it, right?

Speaker 1 You're just matching people of different skill levels against people in their relative brackets and then having coaches to kind of show them the ropes and stuff and

Speaker 1 focusing on, you know, the characters and the tactics to just make it through a basic bracket.

Speaker 1 And, you know, and a secondary effect is showing people that are fans of each streamer what it's like to participate in a bracket, you know?

Speaker 1 But anyway, what's just so ridiculous to me has just been

Speaker 1 the stories of official

Speaker 1 support being a difficult thing to acquire, where it's like each of these fighting games should be bending over backwards to get a slam going. Well,

Speaker 1 like, 2xKO seems to be

Speaker 1 very, very on board. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But like the idea that any of the major fighting games would be like, nah, actually, like, we're not, we don't think that highly of that slash would question it is just so insane because it does nothing but massively grow the profile of your game.

Speaker 1 It is such a smart idea because, first of all, varying out the skill levels enables people, like non-fighting game streamers

Speaker 1 to enter into a fighting game event. But also, I was thinking about this because we're going to be paired up into forced duos.
Interesting format.

Speaker 1 We're going to be forced duos and we're going to be in teams of five. And so, like, obviously, coaches are going to be competing.
They're all pros.

Speaker 1 Every seed one in the entire bracket is grandmaster player or challenger player. Like, they're all like the top guys are all super, super, super fucking strong.

Speaker 1 But we still have to play a set of five matches, two out of three, which means that, like, actually improving the weakest player on your team is more like time

Speaker 1 relevant than getting the pros to get more pro.

Speaker 1 Yes. Because the brand new person

Speaker 1 can go the farthest in the least amount of time. Teaching your best player to be able to beat Diaphone is way harder and more time consuming than teaching your lowest player to be able to beat.

Speaker 1 Here's how to do a bread and butter. Here's how to do a super.
Right? That's it. Like, you know, oh,

Speaker 1 keep in mind when to burst. Maybe save it for fury, you know? Okay, cool.
Bam. That's a massive difference.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, like forcing duos, no juggernaut, no sidekick. Very cool, very smart.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you're also forced to pair up with different people on your team, so no one can really lock in perfect synergy. There's a lot of scrambling that's kind of like

Speaker 1 built into the system. And so everyone's going to have two pairs, right? And so there will be one other person that you should like

Speaker 1 plan to actually have a couple matches with. Is your team slash coach announced yet? Slash is the one.
No, that'll be tomorrow. Okay.

Speaker 1 There's a team building form. Okay.
The form is who do you play?

Speaker 1 What's your rank?

Speaker 1 Who do you like? Are you friends with people? Do you not like people?

Speaker 1 And then the teams will be factored in

Speaker 1 tomorrow. All right.
Announced tomorrow. And it appears that they'll be announced to the teams simultaneous to everyone.
Well, this is obviously not official in any way.

Speaker 1 Nobody knows until it's announced officially. But quite frankly, if you're not going back to back with Unruly, then you best take that motherfucker out.
Okay, so here's the thing. With the thin drag.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 this has been discussed.

Speaker 1 This has been discussed already. I literally was talking about the.
The dreaded encounter reduction.

Speaker 1 The issue with me and Kenny is that me and Kenny have the exact same ranking. Oh, yeah.
We are both in the middle of Emerald. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 There is a 0%

Speaker 1 chance we will end up on the same team. No.
And an extraordinarily high chance that we will end up on the opposing side of each other. Yeah, it's better to pitch you against the

Speaker 1 video games bracket then. If you're in the same exact ranking right now,

Speaker 1 we're dead center of Emerald, both of us. Okay.

Speaker 1 We're both on lock for like seed two or seed three, depending on how strong the other players are. Who does he play? Do you know? I don't know.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And also, very strange for a 2xKO attorney, everyone's playing one person.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm not playing Blitz and Timo. I'm just playing Timo.
Right, right, right. You're picking a character.

Speaker 1 Unless I get paired up with the coach in one of my matches, and he's like, if you don't let me play Timo, we're going to die. At which point I'll have to see what you're doing.

Speaker 1 Yes, then, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 um no that's that's great what's cool too actually um is people are doing wow so there's this event and something that else that just ran there was a an event called 1xko okay and it was a was that a juggernaut tourney juggernaut only

Speaker 1 single a limb single uh um bracket single elimination best best to one

Speaker 1 best to one okay so the one is one one one like one all the way across the board, right? First to one, single a limb, one character only.

Speaker 1 That's like baby, like a baby super battle opera. And

Speaker 1 so watching that and seeing some of what was going on there, like people are discovering that, well, one, juggernaut is not as bad as they thought for in some cases. And there's some also wild

Speaker 1 juggernaut tech where

Speaker 1 if you pop fury at the same time someone pops a burst,

Speaker 1 your Fury eats their burst. What?

Speaker 1 Your Fury eats their burst

Speaker 1 and forces them to wall bounce. So basically, to anyone who doesn't know in the game, burst is the ability for you to escape a combo that you're getting hit by.

Speaker 1 So it's your combo breaker, which you get a couple times throughout the match, but not often.

Speaker 1 And when you have one character left, you have a stronger version that makes you tougher, faster, and more powerful.

Speaker 1 Your comeback mechanic, your X factor. And if you time it to be at the same time as the weaker version, it just eats it completely and forces a wall bounce.

Speaker 1 Which is like, this is not a scenario I don't think anyone has seen up until now. But if you can call out that they're about to do it, you can win, you know?

Speaker 1 Fuck your burst in it, take your soul in so many ways, which is like, okay, that's a cool thing going on there. So, yeah, there was a one X KO event.

Speaker 1 Right on. Okay.

Speaker 1 So I did some practice sets for that yesterday.

Speaker 1 How'd that go?

Speaker 1 It went okay. I wish my stream hadn't fallen apart, but I did record it locally and put it up.
So that's up on Pat's youtube.com slash Pat's there. Okay.

Speaker 1 And it was met a lot of people, didn't know anybody. Everybody knows you.
I don't know anybody.

Speaker 1 I described it when I was talking to Sejan. I was like, I feel like I went over to Woolly's house and I wasn't home.

Speaker 1 Like, it's this really, you know that feeling how weird that is? Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 And that's great. Two things happen.
One, when you're playing like non-stop duos, there are so many fucking strange interactions in that game with four characters on the screen.

Speaker 1 There are so many weird scenarios where assists will like, like get hit, but like body block.

Speaker 1 your super or your your throw

Speaker 1 and just a bunch of just strange interactions that you would never see in a solo context yeah that was throwing everybody for a loop where things was things were hitting when they shouldn't things were dropping when they shouldn't grabs were whiffing because the the the the the assist was in the way Timo was like invisible behind people's characters oh man because like depending if he was the the the assist at the point he would be physically completely blocked by like Brahman Blitz and Alawi and you can't reach people as well when shit like that is happening.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a fucked-up interaction. Super weird.
But the other thing is that I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hang out with these guys. I'm gonna practice up.

Speaker 1 And I just got thrown into like the fucking dankest shark pit I have ever entered in my life. I'm like, all right, let's get some practice games in.
All right, who's ready for practice? Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Hey, iHeart Justice, SageM, Super Noon, Void,

Speaker 1 Cody.

Speaker 1 Oh, you played Noon

Speaker 1 and Dabuz. And I'm like, I'm fucking.

Speaker 1 I didn't fight anybody that wasn't fucking Grand Master.

Speaker 1 Like, not a single fucking. Like, what the fuck? Noon.
Noon was the one who sat me and Reggie down at the Riot fucking booth and went, like, okay, here's how the game works.

Speaker 1 And like, ran through the whole thing, you know?

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, true to form,

Speaker 1 these are the names you're seeing dominating the fucking Challenger leaderboard as well that are just like inhaling the game.

Speaker 1 What's crazy about those interactions you're mentioning too is that like most of the time you're fighting two people or you're fighting one person and they're switching back and forth between their assist and

Speaker 1 whatever. Like the most you can, the most fancy thing you can kind of see people doing is like,

Speaker 1 let's say you tag in Vi and then you do her charge punch and then tag to your secondary character and the charge punch like continues and then releases while you're doing the thing with the character you just switched to, right?

Speaker 1 So, characters that can hold down a button or hold down a move can sort of keep that charge going. Well, it's really easy to hold down the button when it's just you.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 When it's just me holding down the button, I don't have to multitask. But anything more elaborate than holding down a button is like you can't do that unless two human beings are here, you know?

Speaker 1 So, there's weird stuff like that.

Speaker 1 I had like just this

Speaker 1 wonderful set of interactions in which

Speaker 1 I teamed up with Sajam and Duos for quite a while, and

Speaker 1 his Yaswa was really good.

Speaker 1 And I was trying to help out with Timo, and I had this, I felt like a fucking toddler trying to help out their big brother. He was like, oh, I'm going to push block.
And he would go, oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 And like, my push block broke his fucking reaction and caused him to get whiff punished and die.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I'm helping.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, sometimes as well, there's a like, you know, you let, like, I don't know what happens if you push block at the same time they do a retreating guard, you know, but like, if they were like,

Speaker 1 it's got a,

Speaker 1 I had that, but thank you, you know, or, or, like, uh, or the worst must be like a bad burst because you have to burst for them.

Speaker 1 And so, like, if you do that and then the opponent calls it out and blocks it.

Speaker 1 I think the worst thing, and this is not something that would happen with a tournament, but this would happen, of course, with me in practice.

Speaker 1 So I'm like the only person who'll play a fighting game, I guess, and like read chat

Speaker 1 at the time. During the match.

Speaker 1 So I'm holding, the dog is asleep on my chest. And like, I'm, I'm tagged out.
And like, oh, I have two seconds because I'm not, you know, I blew my assist. And I'm looking over reading chat.

Speaker 1 And I just hear Sajam like screaming, like, help me, help, burst, burst.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, I was too late. Sorry, I was kissing the dog.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Sorry, guys. Sorry.

Speaker 1 Garfield, you had burst.

Speaker 1 What are you going to do? Yeah, okay. Well, fortunately, what I can say is, I mean, I'm sure.
Practice is practice. Doesn't count.
Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 but this is the practice that is when you walk into the venue and you see a bunch of beasts crowding around one set, just running tech on each other before the actual tournament begins.

Speaker 1 And like you walk up to peek over and like a bunch of people with big muscular backs turn to be like, what? You want space? Oh yeah, sure. Open up.
All right, come on in here.

Speaker 1 And you were just like, uh,

Speaker 1 do I have next maybe? You know?

Speaker 1 It's it's it's that, you know, but but I tell you what, I mean, you, I'm sure you got to see, like, with Timo, your goal is

Speaker 1 your goal is to win,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 1 But really, your goal is to stall for time while your assist comes back.

Speaker 1 So, what I discovered in that, and people who watch that set, because I wasn't like 100% free, which makes me very happy because these were killers.

Speaker 1 My goal as Timo is to use the fact that the character is good at all these

Speaker 1 keepaway and dart and slingshot things to just run up and tick throw professionals like it's fucking Street Fighter 2 have them go, oh, what?

Speaker 1 And just throw them into the corner so that Sajam can come in and do a yes, well, like ground bound. That'll do.
That'll do.

Speaker 1 Also phenomenal is Timo doing his blow dart super while you get to do a mix while you tag in the opponent and they do their mix, right?

Speaker 1 Like shenanigans happening while you know, watch out, told ya is happening, is pretty solid so yeah that game's that game's pretty good I'm excited to win

Speaker 1 yes I'm excited to win cash money millionaires

Speaker 1 big prize pools happening yeah I don't know how the price pool is split up yet you know what

Speaker 1 it seems like everyone's gonna get something it seems like it's a winner's situation so so they didn't announce that and I think that's actually a pretty good move to just be like yeah it's not about that but that's there that's cool right it's not about that

Speaker 1 Seven of the eight teams. But yeah,

Speaker 1 but like, but like the nonsense that comes from like, here's the top six payout, or here we do, do you do 70, 20, 10?

Speaker 1 Nah, we do 90 fucking 15, 5, or, or it's not even, the math doesn't add up, whatever. We do 9, 7, 3, or some shit, you know?

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 yeah, you'll find out after the fact, I suppose, whatever. But more than anything, it's just like, yo, get eyeballs on this shit and

Speaker 1 get people in there. Yeah, I know.
And it's all for the love of the game at which point, unless my team wins, at which point it was all about the money.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 if I win.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, no, that was the plan.
So,

Speaker 1 can you confirm or deny that do the winners get a guaranteed access to the Chipotle hoodie and pants? It's really funny. I've actually begged on social media for that Chipotle.

Speaker 1 The Chipotle Chipotle fucking outfit?

Speaker 1 There was one person

Speaker 1 on Reddit that was like, hey, I go to Chipotle every day. If you want one, just DM me.
And

Speaker 1 people have been doing that. But otherwise.
Yeah, hit me up. Someone hit me up on Blue Sky.
Give me the Chipotle crap. I mean,

Speaker 1 the Chipotle hoodie is whack, but the shiny pants, they kind of go.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie. Because I don't know what a Chipotle.

Speaker 1 Chipotle doesn't mean anything to me. So I'll silverjack it.
Okay, that looks all right.

Speaker 1 It's a Mexican bowl, basically.

Speaker 1 Isn't that the one that keeps making people sick? Does it? I don't know. I think Chipotle is the one that keeps getting caught for making people sick.
I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 I do know that it's the one that they tell you just put it in the bag if you're an unemployed fighting game character. And also,

Speaker 1 people are confirming, yes, it is the one that is making people sick. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 as far as I know, Sejam has done many a Chipotle ad for officially, as those are the cards you get for making your way out of pools.

Speaker 1 And they, you know, there's a couple of like, let's talk fighting games over some Chipotle at the restaurant. And every once in a while, we cut to some of the beans or whatever.

Speaker 1 I'm really excited to find out who's on my team. I'm like, absolutely.
Oh, you don't know yet. Nah, man.

Speaker 1 People are still filling up their forms. Okay, okay.
Because the whole thing with the BJ Slam last night was,

Speaker 1 hey,

Speaker 1 let's all meet and do a quick little meet and greet and start pair off and try some matches.

Speaker 1 But then at the late late hours of the night, it was the beast corner as it always is.

Speaker 1 Just beast arising. And like when I filled out my form, I'm like, every single person I fucking played is in the coach or seed one rank.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Like, okay.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, fucking, I'm sure everybody's cool. Sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that's, that's, that's, that's dope. And I think

Speaker 1 well, I'm sure they're yeah, you said the grouping is by

Speaker 1 character and by who you know, and so on and so forth, right? So, well, yeah, so it's like they don't want to, they, you know, they put you on team with someone with a coach Timo, for example.

Speaker 1 You say you want to put like,

Speaker 1 you know, five perfect seeds, right? Coach one, two, three, four, but every single fucking person on that team goes, I play Timo only. It's like, well, maybe that's not going to work.

Speaker 1 That being said, man, Timo is going to be on like 45%

Speaker 1 of all matches. Oh, there was

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 much Timo. Really?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 So much Timo. I would expect a fuck ton of Echo because on ranked,

Speaker 1 all your fighting is my time, my time, my time, my time. Echo is like execution heavy, man.

Speaker 1 Echo has buttons to hit. Like, it's going to be the Darius and Timo show for, like, the bottom three seeds, for sure.
Darius is extremely straightforward. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Fair enough.

Speaker 1 Fucking Jesus Christ, though, Echo, man.

Speaker 1 Anyway, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 I, I, you know, I was.

Speaker 1 wondering if uh um

Speaker 1 the well what okay what i will say is like like as ranks go up,

Speaker 1 you do, there is a there is a

Speaker 1 place where I would say

Speaker 1 just outside of like Grandmaster, you've got these

Speaker 1 heavy, heavy Ari, heavy Yasuo, heavy, heavy Echo running it, right? And then and then above, there's like sick brahms that are back out of nowhere. I was playing,

Speaker 1 I played maybe like two, three hours with Javi. Yeah.
And we loaded in. He was the first guy I met, and first guy I played.
And we loaded into a Blitz Timo, Braum Timo set.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And his Braum is fucking aces.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Like,

Speaker 1 a lot of that was missing. And then suddenly from Grandmaster back here, I'm like, oh, there's ridiculous Braums that are destroying, ridiculous Blitzes that are destroying, that are

Speaker 1 doing shit. Stop my fucking Blitz.

Speaker 1 But characters that I had stopped seeing are now back in the mix, you know?

Speaker 1 But yeah, no, it is.

Speaker 1 I'm so excited to see Echo just get hit with the fucking bat. Like, real bad.
Like, he's that Tim Winder shit needs to fucking calm down. So...

Speaker 1 The problem is that anything you do that takes away his identity as a mix-up god would suck. And anything you do that takes away his character time

Speaker 1 identity sucks. He can't be the best projectile zoner zoner in the game and the best guy with the best mix and also have the best strike assist.
Right. Yes.
No.

Speaker 1 I saw a really interesting thought, which is like actually make the Time Winder fire out like twice as fast so that it doesn't linger nearly as long. Oh, interesting.

Speaker 1 Because the lingering part where it just, it's a bomb to accidentally fall onto is like the bigger problem. I think the thing that would, that might piss off like and take away the lead.

Speaker 1 The thing that might help and take away the the uh not take away fun from the people that are enjoying would be to just pull in a kuma and just go yeah give him 400 health just drop his health just make it so that he dies easier right he gets one interaction he gets all the tools he gets all the mixes and then he just dies easier

Speaker 1 which is like you

Speaker 1 be good then you know make less mistakes you should have the ability to avoid that the the burrito fucking os oh yeah no what was it he was talking about like he's he's rolling up the fucking quesadilla yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Sejan was just going on. Oh, I've got burritos and quesadillas and tacos and shit.

Speaker 1 What the fuck are you talking about? Now, now, like, like, oh, someone found

Speaker 1 some new tech with Warwick. It's like, we're gonna call that a schwarma, you know?

Speaker 1 And you're like, what the, yeah, okay, so it's just there is a, there's a particular thing that that Echo can do in the corner that it covers all layers.

Speaker 1 So if you roll to escape, if you wake up, if you do a reversal, if you, whatever you do, you know, you can get mixed and it covers all garaza, all options, right?

Speaker 1 And they so they're like, it's a burrito. It's got everything in it.
It covers everything you need, all your bases. And that's the burrito OS, option select, you know?

Speaker 1 So now we're going into other raps and

Speaker 1 Shwarma-based, you know, there's a Souvlaki OS coming out there, I'm sure. If this was on stream, but I was like, you know,

Speaker 1 I'll watch Sajam stuff and you get this thing, which I feel like you and I. Oh, so you a Sajam fan now? Yeah,

Speaker 1 he does great videos.

Speaker 1 He's a smart, talented, interesting, handsome man. Yeah, I'm aware.
Yeah. I'm aware.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But the thing that we don't usually get to do is I don't usually watch a lot of YouTubers or streamers anymore. So that urge to be like, no, man, like to reach through and leave the comment

Speaker 1 just doesn't factor in anymore. But I got my chance because

Speaker 1 I'm watching Sajam go through like Darius and he's explaining the burrito, for example. And he's like, nah, the burrito is fake.
You can just get through it.

Speaker 1 And, you know, Darius's pole isn't very good because you just learn to parry it. And I'm like, Sajam, you were talking about Darius's hook and how it's too slow and you just learn to parry it.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, but it's hard.

Speaker 1 He goes, yeah, yeah, but you get used to it. And I go, yeah, and you're streaming fighting games five days a week.

Speaker 1 That's so that exact line. So, okay, I had one of those exactly was me going, but it's hard, Justin Wong.
Yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 1 It is difficult to do.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, the answer's right there, you know.

Speaker 1 You just need to do it. Like, not me.
Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 No, because and the thing is, like, because Sejem is also like fighting against the discourse against backdashing, right? You mean car crash neutral? Car crash neutral, right? Yes.

Speaker 1 Y'all are going to learn. Y'all are going to learn

Speaker 1 how to survive without Car Crash Neutral, right?

Speaker 1 We briefly talked about that, and I'm like, dude, I love that subreddit.

Speaker 1 And it's because it's like, because it's not fighting game salt, it's league salt being filtered through a fighting game, and it's crazy. It's like

Speaker 1 just the shittiest fucking opinions ever.

Speaker 1 Now, now, Super Noon has a point in that

Speaker 1 when you look at Street Fighter VI, when you look at Tekken 8, when you look at Grand Blue Fantasy, when you look at all of the new current games,

Speaker 1 there is a thing that just goes, yeah!

Speaker 1 I'm coming at you, right? Everyone's got a humongous body torpedo that is armored

Speaker 1 and starts a combo.

Speaker 1 Right, right. Pull up.
Right, exactly. But, um, and like if you're an old school player, you're like, I hate this shit.
Fuck this, right? Just car crash neutral.

Speaker 1 But the idea of someone just being like round start and I'm mashing backdash. I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 I'm afraid to engage, but then you're actually playing defensive and I'm hoping for my assist to touch you and then I'll tag to that and then we'll get going from there.

Speaker 1 You can counterplay that.

Speaker 1 I can't remember if it was Sajam or Diaphone that I was watching, but they basically described it that behavior into XKO of just jumping back assist like non-stop is the same thing as when you see people in like mid-ranks of Street Fighter just wiggle around in footsies, but they don't know why they're wiggling around.

Speaker 1 They just see players walk back and forth and go, I guess you're supposed to walk back and forth.

Speaker 1 And the example as well that he gave of like, it's up back with Ken just doing jump air roundhouse. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I saw it.

Speaker 1 And then eventually you get up close and they do a sweep. And then they just get up and they do neutral jump, jump, jump, jump, jump.
Hanookin, jump, jump. And you're just like, okay, okay, right.

Speaker 1 You're like, I don't know what I'm doing and I'm afraid. So this is going to be safe.

Speaker 1 I have one other option, right? Exactly. And,

Speaker 1 you know, there is a very clear, like, you can just calm down and like let them do the repetitive thing and then be ready to counterplay it.

Speaker 1 What sucks is, is when you calm down and then you get ready to counterplay it and then you miss.

Speaker 1 Or like

Speaker 1 or their assist jumps in and like, is like the timing of that is just the exact moment I I tapped forward was when that assist appeared. Fuck.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 So yeah, there's a little bit of that going on. And there is something too as well where like assists come out insanely fast.

Speaker 1 You know, like you can, when you find that you hit one out of the way when they jump in or stuff, you got lucky a lot of the time.

Speaker 1 Like that was just a, you're looking at the timing going, probably now, but I don't know for sure.

Speaker 1 And people are kind of afraid of the idea of like, okay, if we just

Speaker 1 rush up to each other and wiggle around and press our medium buttons, one of us is going to get hit by it, but I don't know which one it's going to be.

Speaker 1 Therefore, I'm just not, I'm going to mitigate all chances. Oh my god, he's clowning on you in the comments for the announcement of the players.
Oh,

Speaker 1 I'm going to send you a fucking screenshot. I'm going to screenshot

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 the video on his channel went up that's like announcing the players, and like every comment he can find that is like fucking rip woolly dad brain has the little say jam.

Speaker 1 You son of a bitch. Oh

Speaker 1 Man, I can't stand that man, Sajam.

Speaker 1 God damn it. You fuck.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Shit.

Speaker 1 Fucked on.

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 1 You could have just left it at yo.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. No.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 God damn it. Damn.
Use it.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm going to talk so much shit about him to my baby.

Speaker 1 I'm going to fucking. I'm going to tell my daughter to hate Sajam.
Fuck that. No one hates Sajam.

Speaker 1 I'm going to start early.

Speaker 1 Start early.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Just play the Juna clips over and over.

Speaker 1 I can't stand Sajam.

Speaker 1 There was such a weird fucking moment hanging out with all these

Speaker 1 proper professional Street Fighter characters

Speaker 1 fighting game players and Sajam and all these content creators. And just this moment of like, oh man,

Speaker 1 I wonder what the next character is going to be in fucking dead silence.

Speaker 1 Just dead silence. Yeah.
Oh, just, you couldn't have been.

Speaker 1 Not even, I wonder. Not even like, huh? Nah, nah.
Bro, bro, you're not within Friend DA privileges. All right.

Speaker 1 You don't get access to Friend DA. You know, you're not there yet.
You got to earn that. Right.
When you get that, when you get that secret invite to the Illuminati Discord,

Speaker 1 the back rooms. Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just make sure to, I'll just make sure sure to

Speaker 1 click on that invite before it expires.

Speaker 1 That would be a good idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so so everyone tune in and

Speaker 1 lend Pat your energy.

Speaker 1 I need it. I need it.

Speaker 1 Remember to

Speaker 1 do your proper

Speaker 1 mushroom setups.

Speaker 1 Remember, I can't do that shit. I can't do that shit.
Oh, yeah. You don't have to.
No, know, Wooly. Wooly.
Watch out.

Speaker 1 Watch out. If I tell you.
Watch out.

Speaker 1 Wooly, you can go watch the footage. If I will tell you, I cannot do a Teemo combo worth a shit.
All I can is tick throw the best player in the world like five times in a minute.

Speaker 1 And like, I will turn whatever game I am playing into fucking Street Fighter 2 with geef. I'll do it.
Okay. You got those grabs.
You got those grabs. All right.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I mean, the answer is always, you should attack it.

Speaker 1 That's their fault.

Speaker 1 Cool.

Speaker 1 So what else is going on? All right. What else is going on? I'm clowned up today, obviously.

Speaker 1 But I have a clown-based announcement

Speaker 1 for everyone.

Speaker 1 So it's actually quite warm in my office right now, which is what sucks that I'm holding this hoodie together. But you see, I've gone back to the first clown look that we did a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 1 Also, somebody says that this is the last clown week. No, I'm not doing it.
When I say a month of clown on the podcast, that's not 28 days.

Speaker 1 That's that's five podcasts. Committal, right? No, the real thing is that I've been talking with Bricky lately, and there are now

Speaker 1 Pat Clown shirts

Speaker 1 over at Orchid Delight.

Speaker 1 I'm posting the link in the chat. You can go to to my blue sky.

Speaker 1 How do you spell that?

Speaker 1 Orchid Delight. I should check, huh?

Speaker 1 Shop.

Speaker 1 O-R-C-H-I-D-E-I-G.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's Orchid 8. I'm an idiot.

Speaker 1 Don't know. That's important.

Speaker 1 That is important.

Speaker 1 That is extraordinarily important.

Speaker 1 Aren't you glad I asked you how to spell that? That's so good that you asked me that. That's a very important detail.
Oh, well, walk a walk. I'm a clown, man.

Speaker 1 Orchid8.com. Shop.orchid8.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yes, these are limited-time clown shirts.

Speaker 1 These will be going away in a couple of weeks. I believe the final day is November 8th.

Speaker 1 If you want them, buy them. I'm wearing it.
It's very nice on my boobs. Up to 6XL.

Speaker 1 Yes! For you, for you, like big boys and big girls out there. Okay, I think if you order a 6XL, you can fit into a 5.
You just want that extra comfort.

Speaker 1 I think that has to be a little bit more than 500. You can order a 6XL.
You want to put it on your boyfriend or husband and then

Speaker 1 it gets that smell. You want to take it off the boyfriend or husband and then just use it as a full-on blanket.
Blanket. That's yeah.

Speaker 1 I can see as well that this is au courage as it has the updated mutton chop

Speaker 1 in purple as part of the design as well. So this is.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 That is just the

Speaker 1 ginger.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay. There you go.

Speaker 1 That's the red, man. That's my regular one.
This is based off of my first clown appearance. I was going to say,

Speaker 1 because I was going to say you went back to first clown, but that's default. Yes,

Speaker 1 this is Tat's default clown situation. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 That is proper promotion. So please go buy as many of those shirts as you want

Speaker 1 until November 8th. And then it's too late.
It's too late after that. Pat, you neglected to mention that it comes with three clown stickers.
Yeah, by the way, those clown stickers are actually huge.

Speaker 1 They're way bigger than I thought they were.

Speaker 1 They're like the size of my fist. Now, granted, I have a tiny baby man's fist, but they're much larger.
They're actually like to scale in the photo. All right.
Well, mine is now on the way. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. So I'm going to have your woolly doll.

Speaker 1 I can kiss on that. And you're going to have my face on your chest.
There you go. And you just spill things on me.
Available now at Orchid Delight.

Speaker 1 Thank you. That's.
Fuck.

Speaker 1 You fool. Don't send this to Bricky.
Don't send this. You absolute business.
I've been having such a good time talking with Bricky lately. No, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 I've been having, like,

Speaker 1 aside from getting into the slam and aside from hanging out with Bricky I've had like the a stressful week my internet just

Speaker 1 started to die

Speaker 1 I was telling William about this a little bit beforehand but like anybody who's tried to watch any of the streams I've done since Thursday

Speaker 1 cataclysmic just just completely fucking fell apart

Speaker 1 I usually stream at 20,000 k BBS which is nice at 1440p 60 looks really nice just down to fucking zero frames

Speaker 1 down to zero fucking frame down down to nothing um and i had the isp man out here this morning the technician which thank god i got him so quickly um and he gave me a new router a fancy router he upgraded my service faster internets yeah and he gets it all set up and he and it works and i'm like and he's like cool and then like he's leaving and he's in my yard and i'm like i'm gonna run a fucking speed test on ookla right now and i run it and it it it kicks back like fucking 10 megabits and it's like the upload is nothing.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I actually have the baby on my shoulder, my toddler on my shoulder like a potato, chasing after this dude in my art going, hey, hey, wait, wait, come back in.

Speaker 1 It broke when you started to leave. No, you can get some potato quality streams going, but I think you need at least one frame.
You know, yeah, no, one, yeah.

Speaker 1 And so he comes back in, and I'm like, yeah, so I pointed the office setup. I go, I do live streaming.
I work every day. I really, I really need you to fix this.

Speaker 1 And he starts to get stressed out and he pulls out his phone and calls like his boss. And he's like, yeah, and he's explaining the problem.

Speaker 1 And you know, when you hear a technician or a plumber or a tradesman explain a problem to somebody on the phone, and it's very obvious that they don't know what to tell the fucking customer, but I'm the customer.

Speaker 1 I'm standing right there. And so the second guy comes out,

Speaker 1 and the second guy fucking fucks with it, and he installs a attenuator or some shit and says, ah, the modem's got to learn to love it or whatever the fuck. And then they tell me about the

Speaker 1 lasers in my region need replacing and I'm just like, ah, dude, is it fucking fixed or not?

Speaker 1 No problem makes you feel like more of a helpless baby than the internet goes down and you're like, well, I just can't do anything. I need the internet to go up.

Speaker 1 I just know I'm in the hustle economy here. You can't even pretend, you know?

Speaker 1 Like something goes wrong on the car, and like some real man comes around and starts fixing it, and you can stand, and you stand around, and you can just be like, yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, must have been the

Speaker 1 carburetor. So, you know, apparently the signal coming into my house is too hot.
Whatever the fuck that means.

Speaker 1 And because it's so hot, it's hitting my modem and going, woman, woman, woman, woman, woman, woman. So they installed a little gate to

Speaker 1 fucking

Speaker 1 tell it to calm down, and now it's now it's not vibrating as hard. And I'm like, I'm talking, we're talking about a signal.
What do you mean? It's too hot, it's heat. He's like, Well, no,

Speaker 1 and he showed me, like, he hold open, like, hold not like a tablet, but like a like an engineer's tablet. And he's like, Well, see, these are the uncorrectable errors.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I don't fucking know what that fucking means. I don't know what works now.
The stream is fine.

Speaker 1 I ran a like a Twitch Inspector stream for like multiple hours and zero drop frames. Hey, woo, but like

Speaker 1 just this thing of like, I gotta fucking get out there, man. Like, I got things I gotta do.

Speaker 1 No, I, when I switched to fiber and I saw the numbers go burr and I was like, yay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But then every once in a while, they would stop going burr and go dead silent and then come back and I'd be like, I don't like this like side thing, you know?

Speaker 1 And also,

Speaker 1 I was, I remember asking the technician, I was like, so I've heard that, like, if the wire bends even a little bit, it's just fucked forever.

Speaker 1 And he's like, okay, the wire inside your house, no, right? Like, this part to this part going out here to this wall is fine.

Speaker 1 And then obviously, you're running your cat six cable and whatever, and so on. But the part outside your house going to the fiber thing, that cannot move.

Speaker 1 But like a fucking tree could fall on it, or like a tall truck. Go fuck yourself.

Speaker 1 The elements say eat shit, right?

Speaker 1 Fiber is nice.

Speaker 1 The fiber is nice until like God coughs, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, but yeah, no, I had this thing.
And then Paige ended up getting up after, because I take the baby in the morning. She ended up getting up after all was said and done.

Speaker 1 And she's like, internet fixed? I'm like, yeah. She's like, great.
And I'm just like sitting there like stare. Like my fucking elbows are on my knees.
I'm just staring at the fucking ground going,

Speaker 1 okay. Sidebar, sidebar, because there are definitely network technicians listening to this right now,

Speaker 1 desperately trying to make it look like they're busy at their jobs, which they've gotten very good at taking a 15-minute problem and turning it into a three-hour problem. And I applaud you, truly.

Speaker 1 Make no mistake, the stolen wages are still going to be on the company's benefit, but you're doing your thing out there and you're trying um

Speaker 1 oh you see oh i see some of them you already caught a couple all right so can you guys okay well listen i won't expose you but can you confirm a piece of information for me is it true because i know when we all moved from cat five to cat six cable right but is it true that seven and eight are pretty much bullshit and are kind of just marketing scams that are not real but like six is more than fine for anything commercial non-commercial anything residential essentially because i was reading about about it and it was kind of like, oh, if you go and get yourself a Cat 8 cable or whatever, it's like, you don't need that in your house and it's not going to make a difference with what kind of pipe is coming your way.

Speaker 1 But it's new, though.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, people are saying you're kind of on the ball with this.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Because I hear, yes, most people, Cat 6 is, you're going to get everything you need from that.

Speaker 1 I got like the strangest, like, you ever have somebody, like, you appreciate somebody willing to talk inside baseball about their profession to you when they're at your house or whatever.

Speaker 1 I do appreciate that, and I love it. And then I got one today that was like, I actually didn't want this about like the internet service.
So,

Speaker 1 like, the conversation came up that I'm a residential customer and I'm not a business customer.

Speaker 1 And the reason why this came up is because on the phone, he said, Yeah, guy's running his home business out of his fucking house.

Speaker 1 And apparently, four guys in their office leapt to their feet because they overheard the other guy say he's a business customer because they just sit around all day waiting for like the ATMs in gas stations to fail.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 shit. And they like, there's like an entire team of business guys for the business internet customers that exist exclusively for the grocery store checkout connection to fail.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because they need to be there and they need to be fixed now.

Speaker 1 And so, like, as I, as they're like, no, he's a residential customer, they all just went,

Speaker 1 oh,

Speaker 1 and like, sat back in their chairs and went back to like doodling on their fucking phones. I think the last time

Speaker 1 the guy telling me that story says, Hey, by the way, you know, like, you're not going to get like better service if you're a business customer. Just more guys will show up to your house.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, perfect.
That's good. That's good.
Looking busy.

Speaker 1 Looking good, folks. You know?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bring them all some lemonade.

Speaker 1 No, the only time I think

Speaker 1 recently or so that

Speaker 1 I've had something like where it made a difference was heading down to the bank in person.

Speaker 1 And it was like, oh, wait. I have a business card.
I can therefore go to the business line.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 you walk past the plebeian line and you go to the business line. I'm a big boy and I do big boy business.
Business. And then you get there and you're like, yeah, can I take out $30, please?

Speaker 1 With my fucking, you know, with my business debit, you know? And they're like,

Speaker 1 sure, man. I like, we're here for payroll because people show up to do their payroll shit, you know, but technically your card says business.

Speaker 1 Payroll in person in this day and age and Lord Zone 2025. There's whenever something, there's people that line up there to do stuff and they walk in with lots of papers to do the business line.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's fucking insane.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I need, I'd like $30, please.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 But anyways.

Speaker 1 Cool, cool. What else did I do this? So I can't remember what I did this week because

Speaker 1 what I did this week got fucked up so many times. Like, I wanted to tell you about more Digimon stuff.
I wanted to tell you about

Speaker 1 the experience of leading Page through Rari2 Blind, which is going to be, if not for

Speaker 1 the disastrous internet things. The only thing I can tell you is that I played Tormented Souls 2.

Speaker 1 Which is a Resident Evil-like. It is a sequel to a different indie game called Tormented Souls 1.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It is, hey man, do you like old-style tank control Resident Evil games? And I go, yes.

Speaker 1 Yes, I fucking do. I absolutely do.
And it is a really, really excellent version of one of those games. It's spooky.
It has incredible environmental detail. It has absolutely fiendish puzzles.

Speaker 1 I got a code for it. Yeah, well, I was about to say, like, if I'm sure you got an email that's like, hey, we noticed you played Signalis and Crow Country.
That That is literal.

Speaker 1 So we're emailing you this because shut the fuck up and put it in. You're going to like it, idiot.
Absolutely. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 1 But with that came, hey, by the way, here's the, here's the puzzle guide for reviewers. Okay.
And I was like, I don't fucking need that. I did.
I do need that shit. The puzzles in Tormented Souls 2.

Speaker 1 are really hard.

Speaker 1 They're really hard.

Speaker 1 They're like kind of diabolical, especially after I just went through Silent Hill F. The puzzles in that game are like a joke compared to Tormented Souls 2.

Speaker 1 Okay, now are we talking puzzles in the Silent Hill, the solution is outside the game knowledge sense, or in the you can use what's in front of you to logic it together?

Speaker 1 You can use what's in front of you, but like it requires a certain degree of intuition

Speaker 1 that is like

Speaker 1 they really want you to fucking pay attention

Speaker 1 to everything.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, like it kind of kicked my ass. That being said, it's also like much larger in scope than the first game.
The first game took place nearly entirely in like a mental hospital.

Speaker 1 And this one takes place in like an evil convent.

Speaker 1 And then I defeated the convent and then

Speaker 1 left the the convent and went into the town. And then I did the mall and then I did the processing thing.
And it's like it goes from Resident Evil homage to Silent Hill 3 homage.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And it's really cool.

Speaker 1 It's just a really, really cool, excellent game. I'm going to go back to it this week because I now have working internet and I can.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to go back to

Speaker 1 I'm going to go back to Digimon this week like a big boy because I can. And that's my current plans.

Speaker 1 I also am doing a sponsored show for Gloomy Eyes on Halloween, and we're going to do an RE2 one on Halloween, and I have a Dragon Quest 1 Plus 2 HD remake-sponsored stream on

Speaker 1 Thursday, the 30th.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, I tried to play Power Wash Simulator 2 with Bricky, and we discovered that the game's multiplayer just doesn't work at all. Oh, great, great.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just like that chains together problem I i had just now nothing sick absolutely nothing afterthought and uh well it's like a primary function of the game and you know when you know it's really bad when i refunded it on steam and you know the drop-down thing that's like what is your issue with the game the first one at the top was the multiplayer doesn't work and i'm like that seems like it's the most common refund reason if it's at the top that's fucking sucks man damn yeah okay um

Speaker 1 says power watch one had multiplayer and it also didn't work that's fucking hilarious so this they just never fixed it and put a sequel out that's really fucking phenomenal um

Speaker 1 yeah uh i i uh

Speaker 1 i was talking about um when when we were talking about digimon the other day and i was curious and um

Speaker 1 the digital monsters yeah no uh because we're talking about like i mentioned like cyber sleuth was like a thing i was considering at some point and uh i did get confirmation

Speaker 1 from.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, no, shout out to Krim Tapuf and an in-law who let me know that the new one doesn't have any connection to the previous ones and it's totally standalone.

Speaker 1 And it doesn't matter if you played Cyber Sleuth. Totally standalone.
I should mention that.

Speaker 1 That's pretty solid information that you don't need to know anything about the rest and you can just jump in there. Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 You know what you need to know is that Digimon stands is short for digital monster.

Speaker 1 Okay. But they'll tell you that, actually.
Are they the the champions?

Speaker 1 That has not come up as of yet.

Speaker 1 But maybe it will. Maybe it will.

Speaker 1 Cool. Alright.

Speaker 1 Is there anything else that's going on with me?

Speaker 1 Nah.

Speaker 1 Nah. Go down to twitch.tv/slash patstairs at and youtube.com/slash patstares at.
I do streams again. Hooray!

Speaker 1 What's up with you, man?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 unfortunately,

Speaker 1 not much,

Speaker 1 you know, this week.

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 stuff going on. But the

Speaker 1 main thing, I just played a little bit more silk song.

Speaker 1 All I really did. You're getting there, right? You're like, I'm

Speaker 1 closing in.

Speaker 1 A bit, but not that much because,

Speaker 1 like, all I did was I went down to the abyss and made it back up.

Speaker 1 and That's kind of a fucking huge step you're you're in there so that platform I'm not gonna fall for the bait

Speaker 1 I'm not gonna fall for the bait of looking at dots on the map and thinking this is surely the final stretch until I make it where I need to towards the end or whatever but um that that that platforming that you do to make it out of there is like

Speaker 1 that's hella tense that's uh that's a little like ah, okay, you're asking,

Speaker 1 you're doing what you do. That's the platforming only had one or two moments where that were like pushing it before that.

Speaker 1 And then here's one where they go, Here's a boss fight that's a platforming segment. Yeah, you want to hear the craziest thing.

Speaker 1 Somebody came into my uh stream this week and said, Did you know that they actually patched Savage Beast Fly 2 and the platforming section to be different?

Speaker 1 They're separated now. Oh,

Speaker 1 huh, Isn't that fucking crazy? You access them apart from each other. Yeah, so they moved Savage Beast Fly over to a different lava area and then

Speaker 1 the platforming segment's the same. Whoa.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it was in your way.

Speaker 1 It was in your way. So, um,

Speaker 1 but yeah, I know that's that's that's kind of it. And um,

Speaker 1 I do thoroughly appreciate the equivalent of fast travel. Like, no, no, the third form of fast travel that you get.
That's like, shut the fuck up, super fast travel.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 in Silk Song, rather, in Hollow Knight,

Speaker 1 that was a really nice time saver, but the limitation on it was very like, pick your spot.

Speaker 1 That's where you're going to go.

Speaker 1 It's still kind of like that. It's still kind of like that.
Yeah, but it gives you more freedom, right? To hit the

Speaker 1 bell beast, essentially, because

Speaker 1 you had

Speaker 1 your

Speaker 1 one-way travel, essentially, in Hollow Knight.

Speaker 1 And I pretty much kept it at the home city.

Speaker 1 And like, there were times where I was like, oh, I'm grinding out this one thing. I want to put it elsewhere, but the trek back is such a pain in the ass, you know?

Speaker 1 And so you'd feel bad for doing that and stuff. And you're like, I'm far enough into it that I want to skip past a lot of this, you know?

Speaker 1 And I would say that, like, they gave it right around the perfect time in Act 3 where you're like choosing to expose yourself to as much or as little of the reformed map as possible.

Speaker 1 Because, truthfully, I don't want to actually scrape the entire Act 3 map and see all the new shit.

Speaker 1 There's new shit in that Act 3 map that I didn't do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I still got 100%, which is the weirdest part. Oh, okay.
Okay. Well, the invisible 100%, right?

Speaker 1 Well, no, no, no. There's

Speaker 1 100% counts like items and items from bosses and like everything that ticks the counters up. Right.

Speaker 1 I can tell within me that I'm like, I don't have enough left in me to do this full map scrape traversal again. I just don't want to.
I want to see some cool things and then have a nice denouement,

Speaker 1 you know, and

Speaker 1 make my way out. So

Speaker 1 i will see what uh uh uh what i feel like run rooms i run into i'm gonna turn your volume up a little bit more there we go um i'm gonna see what what what i feel like touching on

Speaker 1 you're quite a bit louder in my ears oh yeah god fucking damn it

Speaker 1 it's cool don't worry about it um

Speaker 1 and uh and that's that's kind of the idea you know is is like i can i can look and go

Speaker 1 I don't want all of this, but I do want to see what's going on in this area that seems like cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and like, you walk into that one room in act two, and you go, oh, there's some good shit in this room, right? Fucking terracotta warriors standing on guard, and you're like, I like this room.

Speaker 1 I like the cut of this gym. There's some cool old people standing around in here with some big swords.
Tell me about that. And they're like, yo, go back to that room.
And I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 1 So that's the shit where I'm like, I can't get there fast enough, you know.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 but but uh, beyond that, I'm also like looking at some zones, and I'm like, fuck everything poison-related forever, even if I have the thing that mitigates it, because it doesn't even mitigate it entirely, you know.

Speaker 1 Um, so yeah, that's pretty much it. Just poking at Silk Song a bit, and um,

Speaker 1 obviously, to X KO, uh, that that continues as well. Um, I

Speaker 1 can, I am, this is one of those bits where I'm I'm just like, all right,

Speaker 1 can, is there any reasonable way? I'm looking at it. I'm like, is there any reasonable world where I could hit Challenger? And it's like, oh, no, get

Speaker 1 the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 I was talking to Javi about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Challenger's top 100. Yeah.
But the guys.

Speaker 1 I thought it was top five. No, it's top 100.
Top 100. Okay, Legend is top five.
But the problem is, is that in Challenger, like guys like Noon and Void and shit like that, they're just grinding

Speaker 1 all day every day. That's all you see.
So, the top 100 LP, it's getting farther and farther away from you every day. Yes, you will never catch up with Hook Gang God.
It's impossible.

Speaker 1 You will never catch up with Nerd Josh. It's impossible.
They're just living and breathing. I mean, dudes, fucking

Speaker 1 help in balance. But like,

Speaker 1 I have a friend from, so one of the best Netherrealm players is Hayate. He's from Montreal.
Shout outs, good homie. He's been breathing this game every day and he's he's on the challenger list.

Speaker 1 And like, yeah, it's, it's got to be your oxygen. It's, it's your fucking morning, noon, and night, you know?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 even if you are like,

Speaker 1 even if you have the skill in some fuck, if you found, if you got all the tech and were just that nice with it, like the rate of matches and

Speaker 1 this whole thing set me up really bad because like I'm playing a match against fucking a team of Cody and Super Noon and it's me and Sajam and

Speaker 1 we lose and he's like, don't worry about it. These guys are fucking jobless sweats.

Speaker 1 They got no fucking jobs. And I'm like, I don't know these guys well enough.
Do you guys not have jobs? I was like, no, no, no. Their job is to fucking get good at 2xKO.
You'll never

Speaker 1 catch up. Yeah.
As, you know, as Justin was saying, like, the job is to be a consistent streamer now.

Speaker 1 The job is to make the content, you know?

Speaker 1 It's like, Kizzy, yeah, sure, you could go out there in Windows tournaments, but how about you post more clips with a bonk coconut noise when you land an overhead on somebody?

Speaker 1 You know. Anyways,

Speaker 1 suffice to say that

Speaker 1 I think we're going to have a sort of

Speaker 1 strive celestial floor kind of vibe to Grandmaster.

Speaker 1 Because, like, as I'm crossing the threshold and I'm like, hey, cool, I got here and the distance between me and the people in whatever, like

Speaker 1 bronze or whatever the low, you know, the distance between people at the beginning and where I am versus the distance between where that is and fucking top of Challenger is

Speaker 1 orders of magnitude. Equivalent.
Orders of magnitude.

Speaker 1 Well, here's the thing. It's like when you say the bottom, like you don't really, like, the bottom is a person who's playing their first match.

Speaker 1 And that, that, that jump from that to you is, like, infinite to most people.

Speaker 1 Um, but I guess the, um, what would happen, I think basically the, uh, the, it's better to have a larger number for whatever your like true rank ELO category is. Um,

Speaker 1 you know, like, so Street Fighter VI has a problem with Legend because, like, there's 500, which is okay, that's cool, but there's an issue with Japan and like

Speaker 1 the way you earn points over in Japan is way easier than the way you earn points in North America. Oh, is that true? Yeah,

Speaker 1 there's an issue with that where people that are like better players, you can go to Japan and like shoot the fuck up because the matches you're getting reward more compared to the points you get.

Speaker 1 That's fucking racist.

Speaker 1 They want Japanese players at the top of the rankings. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's because of the amount of players and the distribution and the way the way the math works out.

Speaker 1 People are talking about how, like, yeah, ranked in Japan speeds you the fuck up to the top of legends

Speaker 1 with your master point distribution compared to North America and elsewhere, right? The density makes a difference.

Speaker 1 So that sucks, you know, and not to mention as well, like you're getting pocketed.

Speaker 1 You're getting pockets of players where you might run into the same people in your state or province often that are in your ranking all week long, you know, and Japan, smaller area, dense population, skill level, et cetera, you're getting more and varied matches against, you know, these different players.

Speaker 1 So, um,

Speaker 1 but anyway, all this to say that, uh, and I think um, DNF, like at the top ranking, it got, it counted like the top thousand or something to that effect.

Speaker 1 But they're basically hit, you hit a point where you're like, okay, just show me the number because everything above this

Speaker 1 doesn't really matter, you know?

Speaker 1 Um, what was wild though, what you probably never want to do again, was, I don't know if you remember in Street Fighter V when you finished your like ranking first matches or whatever, it goes, all right, cool.

Speaker 1 You are now 700,000

Speaker 1 on the list. It's like, I absolutely love that.
What the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 1 You're telling me my rank is six digits? Dude,

Speaker 1 I love that because it gave you such a clear like focus for improvement.

Speaker 1 Oh, like it wasn't an obfuscated, like, well, I mean there was bronze and iron and yeah there was there was but like hey I went up a fucking thousand ranks today.

Speaker 1 Yeah yeah no you can watch you went from 700,000 to like top 200,000. Congratulations.
That's crazy. That's incredible.
That's so much progress. You're nuts, you know?

Speaker 1 And then you get down to like four digits and you're like

Speaker 1 wow, right? That's that's less than the number of entrants in Evo. That's crazy.
I'm I'm amazing. I'm a god.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just, it's insane to just be like, your rank is longer than your fucking bank account number, you know?

Speaker 1 Anyway, anyway, so that's, that's pretty much it. Not much else there.

Speaker 1 However, this week on the schedule over on twitch.tv slash Willieversus, as well as youtube.com slash willieversus,

Speaker 1 going to, we did our chill stream.

Speaker 1 We had some opinions. We had some takes.

Speaker 1 I fucking loved

Speaker 1 you going in there to the chill stream of bad opinions because

Speaker 1 I wanted worse opinions. I got to be honest.
Fair. Like, I caught in there and you were talking about, like, ah, I just caught a bunch of X-Files episodes at random.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yeah, that's actually literally what happened to every single person our age. That's not a bad opinion at all.
X-Files is cowboy bebop. How about that? Absolutely.
It is worse.

Speaker 1 How about that?

Speaker 1 The beginning and ending of every season is the conspiracy, which kind of sucks. And then in the middle, it's like, what if, what if,

Speaker 1 what if you went to, what if, oh, God. What if you fought a Blackula or the Jersey Devil or Mulder got eaten by a mushroom and the entire episode's fake? Or a water monster during a hurricane?

Speaker 1 Or the time that they went to a homeowner's association neighborhood and they had accidentally summoned a trash golem that would kill you if your grasp was too long.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 And then the other bit was, and this is, can you confirm like the lone gunman was like the shit and amazing?

Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't watch The Lone Gunman. Okay.
The Lone Gunmen in the show were actually really cool side characters, but I would say that that's where they should have stayed.

Speaker 1 I have no desire to watch A Lone Gunman TV show ever.

Speaker 1 Ah, because I've heard it referred to as like a really good spin-off where like it's a good short show with all these with with this the these interesting characters and they just kind of said fuck it at the end and destroyed all chance of them you know being their own thing or in the future or whatever the case is you know but uh i've heard it i've heard it referred to almost like um

Speaker 1 uh torchwood which was like a Doctor Who spin-off show that was like successful in its own right, doing its own thing.

Speaker 1 You know, it's like sometimes the little spin-off series takes off and does its own bit, and I heard the Lone Gunman referred to as like pretty solid.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 In any case,

Speaker 1 it's a really troubling issue with X-Files that the conspiracy episodes are by far the most boring, except they feature the more famous than the X-Files cigarette smoking man. Yes.

Speaker 1 Who is just the absolute best fucking villain I have ever seen in anything. Because all he does is stand in kind of half shadow and smoke like a lot and say like two

Speaker 1 cryptic things and then like walk away and disappear. Because you that's it.

Speaker 1 So yes.

Speaker 1 No, and I understand the idea of like, this is the dude in the shadows standing behind Ronald Reagan, you know, as he's as he's lighting up the fucking the little envelope that says crack on it, you know, and it's like, yes, this is the shadows, the agent, the G-Man, you know, that's making it all happen.

Speaker 1 And for some reason, my last memories of him are just in a cave. I don't know.
You're right. Okay.

Speaker 1 You're right. You're right.
I didn't hallucinate.

Speaker 1 No, that definitely did happen.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so we did that. And then we're going to try

Speaker 1 sprinkling on an extra stream or two this week. So

Speaker 1 Thursday, we will be jumping back into Act Two of Expedition 33. Oh, there we go.
We've been waiting for this one.

Speaker 1 So that will resume, and

Speaker 1 back to get into fighting games on Saturday as well.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Bones is going to come over.

Speaker 1 Rather, excuse me, Uncle Jimmy, as he goes by now. And yeah, we're going to do some 2X, some double-cross knockout.
Will he eventually have to turn that to Unk Jimmy?

Speaker 1 I think he had the choice to, and he decided not to. I think he's going with just Uncle Jimmy for now.
But the branding might, who knows?

Speaker 1 You know, you start off as a Snoop Dogg horror character, and you can go anywhere from that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So we'll see how this goes. And full disclosure, it might go terribly, and I might have to dial back to less days the week after.
But we'll see.

Speaker 1 We'll see.

Speaker 1 You're good.

Speaker 1 I don't want to put anyone's expectations down. Oh, you're a smart guy.

Speaker 1 But like resuming the LP is one thing where I'm like, I don't want to fucking be like, ah, shit, sorry, you know, break again. But

Speaker 1 we're just,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 taking the time to do more.

Speaker 1 Whatever. Baby take time.
All right? There. Yeah.
Babies take time. Well, I mean, luckily, the baby's just like, like, right over there.

Speaker 1 It's like, she's right over there. Yeah, but she's getting more complex.
It's not getting simple. Yeah, so that's the problem.

Speaker 1 The Hellraiser fucking Rubik's Cube is just there's new facets inside. Yeah, so like, hey, when does it get easier and when is it less stressful?

Speaker 1 When they go to school and then you'll want to die because you're going to miss your best friend every day. No.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 And that's why you get one of these ugly little dogs. So that one's because

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Speaker 1 yeah, like, like, her farts just started smelling, man.

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Speaker 1 And it's a premonition for something that's about to

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You know, I'm piecing together the language clues for what the fuck that's about to be.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Anyways.

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Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 there is some news this week. There's a couple of things.
We can start with our brand new segment, How Hath God Blighted Hi-Fi Rush this week. Oh, that one, huh?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it seems to be a cursed, cursed game. I can't remember the last time I've seen so many ebbs and so many flows before

Speaker 1 another product has been announced.

Speaker 1 Why is he so excited?

Speaker 1 I think the idea of Krafton becoming an AI-first company is making Boost

Speaker 1 is making Boost get up and start moving.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man. This sucks.
So, you know, looking at this from the Hi-Fi Rush perspective, hey, amazing game out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Overnight success. Oh, great.

Speaker 1 For no reason, for literally, actually, no reason, even on the books. Amazing.

Speaker 1 Shut it all down. No wait from off the ground, like Napoleon.
Krafton has picked up Tango GameWorks and placed it upon its head.

Speaker 1 And then everyone's like, yay, Hi-Fi Rush, this great game that didn't deserve to get trashed

Speaker 1 for succeeding, has a chance now.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 said company announces with their ownership of PUBG, Subnautica, and Tango that they're now an AI-first company with automated work, AI-centric HR, management systems, and workflows, in-game AI, full company-wide AI.

Speaker 1 So I talked about this earlier this week, and I feel like there's two things that could be happening here.

Speaker 1 One is this is one of those things that a bunch of the fucking sub-human business freaks at the top just say

Speaker 1 and just tell everybody below them to just do it and don't understand, like, don't even take steps to implement it themselves. They're just like, yeah, we're doing AI now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But the other thing is that if I was a person working at

Speaker 1 Tango Game Works, particularly in management, I would embark upon the Mel Brooks style of big wig management, which is designate one person.

Speaker 1 on the team, but like you are no longer working on the game. What you are is fabricating nonsense to distract a person who is directly above me.
Yes. You are here to doctor up AI reports.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Like, fabricate meetings out of nothing.

Speaker 1 Just lie. Just lie like crazy.

Speaker 1 Well, the people who are pushing the actual AI is going to save the company thing are lying harder and bigger in contributing to this bubble that everyone knows is a bubble. Oh, that's the problem.

Speaker 1 Willie. I have been.
been, I've, I'm constantly looking in on this. They believe it.
So, but that's the, that's the problem. They're not lying.
They actually think that the AI can do your job.

Speaker 1 So there are. Because they don't do any work.
There are,

Speaker 1 amongst the, the, the, the, the suckers, there are people who are basically like, I know it's a bubble. I want to see if I can time it,

Speaker 1 right? Especially the ones who are watching it fail in front of them every day, for example.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're staring at this thing that's supposed to save the company all of these millions of dollars and billions of dollars and it's not happening, you can see it fucking printing out

Speaker 1 a dick butt and go, huh, well, okay,

Speaker 1 can I get out before anyone notices with my money bags? is always the question. Can you time the market?

Speaker 1 It's amazing because I've seen the latest statistic was like, this is now eight times the size of the dot-com bubble. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I saw like an argument that it could be up to 20 times as well.

Speaker 1 Hypothetically.

Speaker 1 By the time it bursts. You know, and

Speaker 1 it. It represents 99% of U.S.
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Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 you know, never and like that, I was touching on this on the on the chill stream, but just like, yeah, the part where you're, you're more or less pitching or selling the idea that this is general intelligence and that that it's totally the same, and everything is going to magically overnight replace all your workers, and it's all going to work amazingly well.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you fucking saw Albania has an AI minister

Speaker 1 that's part of the cabinet.

Speaker 1 I saw this summed up perfectly like 18 months ago, which was

Speaker 1 AI is not good enough to do your job. And she's correct.

Speaker 1 It's good enough to fool your boss who doesn't know how your job works into thinking that it can do your job that's correct

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 like that's it

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 anyways so uh that fucking sucks and it's like

Speaker 1 you know was hi-fi rush saved or was it bitten by a zombie we'll see the corpse animated we saw it get back up

Speaker 1 but we haven't seen it speak or we haven't heard it speak yet

Speaker 1 It's kind of shuffling around a little bit, you know.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Beyond that,

Speaker 1 and speaking of the crashes, you dump everything into this bullshit. And it's just, again, it's exhausting and boring to talk about.
It's very exhausting.

Speaker 1 It's just kind of funny because I just, whenever you get the numbers on these things, you kind of just go like, ah, okay. So

Speaker 1 Bloomberg recently looked into the Microsoft numbers.

Speaker 1 And what they have is

Speaker 1 the euphemism they use at Microsoft is accountability margins

Speaker 1 to describe profit margins, essentially, which is

Speaker 1 just an interesting way of phrasing it. It's like, no, no, no, it's not a profit margin.
It's accountability. It's something that you need to be responsible for.

Speaker 1 It is what your due diligence is to deliver on accountability, right? Anyway,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 basically,

Speaker 1 long story short, the global video games market saw a massive high of

Speaker 1 profit margins reaching like 22% during COVID.

Speaker 1 When it'll ever be,

Speaker 1 when things were popping the fuck off during 2020 and 2021, because yes, exactly, everyone was home and had very little else to do but play some fucking video games.

Speaker 1 And then that dropped down to an average of about 17% last year in 2024. That's not a bad number.
That's where the market tends to sit right now.

Speaker 1 But Microsoft,

Speaker 1 Microsoft's chief financial officer, they set a target of 30% for Xbox to deliver

Speaker 1 as of 2023 moving forward. So

Speaker 1 gluttons unsatisfied with all the riches of heaven, looking at the 22% margins that were happening during the peak of COVID gaming.

Speaker 1 They're like, nah, highest revenue to ever happen for video games ever. Nah, fuck that.

Speaker 1 We need to beat that at 30%.

Speaker 1 And then you then turn around and plug this into all the other news we've been talking about with everyone getting fired. How are we going to make all this money, man? Oh, why don't we?

Speaker 1 What if we were playing? What if we took labor costs and put labor costs down to zero by firing everyone? And then the robot can make Halo.

Speaker 1 Just Kylo Ren.gif.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, absolute clown shoe shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 their 30% profit margin is going to go really well with their console lineup that features a thousand-dollar handheld that Gene had to conspire with like tech support to play Halo and the regular consoles that are no longer being sold in like Walmart, Kmart, and Costco.

Speaker 1 We have been referring to the stupidity of like a bunch of people going, oh my God, look at the numbers go up during COVID and seeking that high, right?

Speaker 1 And that high that they've been seeking was 22%,

Speaker 1 finding out now that they're like, that's not enough. We need

Speaker 1 it's not enough. It needs, we got to shoot, it's got to be further beyond.
Fuck this. It's got to be the impossible, all right? Cool.
How's that working out? Let's ask Master Chief.

Speaker 1 Yeah, how's Master Chief doing?

Speaker 1 Always coming to PlayStation.

Speaker 1 Fucking sick. Like,

Speaker 1 I just can I can I like

Speaker 1 the idea that they are doing interviews talking about the next Xbox console, and then the next day I am watching a Sony PlayStation logo stamped onto Master Chief. What are you fucking talking about?

Speaker 1 If everything's an Xbox and my PlayStation is a PlayStation and my PlayStation is an Xbox, why would I ever buy an Xbox that's also not a PlayStation? It's fucking psychotic, man.

Speaker 1 It's completely batched. So yes, Halo campaign evolved, available soon on PS5.

Speaker 1 And there you go, your console warriors, right? So did you see there was a leak that came out that was like... The next Halo is going to feature AI at every part of development.

Speaker 1 And then somebody came out and said, absolutely not. Absolutely not.
And then the trailer for

Speaker 1 Halo Campaign Evolved came out, in which it's really clear it has AI voice acting in it.

Speaker 1 It's very clear. And the

Speaker 1 level designer for Halo 1, I think his name is Jamie Griesmer. I might be mispronouncing it.
Just went on this massive thread that was like, Why'd they remove the rocks?

Speaker 1 I put the rocks there so you can't drive up the warthog and run over the hunters. Why did they do why are you allowing a sprint button?

Speaker 1 If you sprint down this corridor, then Marty's music doesn't have a chance to kick in. Do they even know what they're doing? And the answer is fucking no, they don't.
So,

Speaker 1 a lot of people are experiencing this type of shit for the first time

Speaker 1 as they've grown up with this generation of console war being the one that they know know first, all I can say is... This one went on for a really long time.
It did. It did.
It did. Right.

Speaker 1 But at least when Sonic showed up at Nintendo's door, there was a smoldering crater behind him with Nary a flame to be found left. Right?

Speaker 1 At least when Sonic was like, yeah,

Speaker 1 okay, it's software now. That's what we're doing.
It was thoroughly, thoroughly extinguished as far as a business goes.

Speaker 1 Watching this happen with like their, their, you know, active console flagship IPs while out the other side of their mouth, they're talking about the new Xbox business.

Speaker 1 Are you insane? Are you like

Speaker 1 an Xbox? Your house is on fire, sir. I'm going to buy an Xbox so that I can play Game Pass for $360 to $400 a year.

Speaker 1 But if I don't do that, I'll be able to buy a PlayStation in which every Xbox game will also come to, and also all the Sony games.

Speaker 1 I don't know, mom, dad, which one do I buy? Like, it really is, it really does feel like, okay, investors, we got you all in this room. Now, wait till we show you what we have in store.

Speaker 1 Don't you go anywhere. And, like, in the glass around him,

Speaker 1 people are being marched out at gunpoint and thrown out and being replaced with robots, and things are exploding. And it's like

Speaker 1 every single news article about Microsoft that everyone is reading is exploding piece by piece. But they're like, no, no, no, no, no, it's great.
It's great. It's fine.
It's fine. Don't go anywhere.

Speaker 1 It's totally okay. Master Chief just walked out the door.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's fine. It's fine.
It's fine. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill.
Right?

Speaker 1 Now, this was all, of course, like, there was that earlier discussion about like, oh, maybe the future can be kind of like DVD players and consoles can all share and things can be.

Speaker 1 Yes, and the DVD player of choice will be the Sony

Speaker 1 once again. And Sony's like, you are more than welcome to use our Blu-rays

Speaker 1 and our controllers and our hardware and our memory and our everything

Speaker 1 for this new open

Speaker 1 generation of hardware. Absolutely.
The PlayStation is right there. Feel free to use it to your heart's content as we share.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Absolute buffoonery. Just crazy.
Gonna hit 30% profit. Gonna hit it.
The numbers are always amazing and hilarious to see. Like, that's fun.

Speaker 1 There is literally no way they will hit, like, are able to hit 30% profit on literally anything. Well, at this point, you're just like, it's not, it can't really be about that.

Speaker 1 It has to just be a stalling tactic to allow them to say to people, hey, look at what we've set our targets for. Don't you worry.

Speaker 1 Our projected growth in that projected growth chart yeah that's 30 it all it also remember covid remember covid cobis it all

Speaker 1 dirt shit garbage compared to where we're going in our projected charts

Speaker 1 it allows for them to do uh it allows them to fire anybody for any reason because they'll be like well you didn't hit your targets uh accountability

Speaker 1 company hit the targets dude account account accountability targets right uh and the other thing

Speaker 1 is that um that we're in the we're in the uh i i was this on stream it must have been on stream it wasn't here we're in the the part of the AI bubble or the consumer bubble that I have started to call why can't I buy a normal TV

Speaker 1 in honor of the 3D TV nonsense that Sony tried to push and all the TV manufacturers tried to push.

Speaker 1 So, like, Microsoft is like putting stuff out, like, AI is so successful. We're making so much money.
How do you know that? Well, look how many million, billions of minutes of AI use there have been.

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 1 we're including all usage of the program's Word and Team. Oh,

Speaker 1 all right, yes. Regardless of use of AI feature within.
Oh, no, everyone. You know the thing your job makes you use?

Speaker 1 Everyone that's used a search box on any website recently that's been forced to get a result. I love it.
That's also considered usage of AI, is it? Even though nobody asked for it? Yeah, cool. Okay.

Speaker 1 So, you know, after

Speaker 1 the Japanese bubble popping

Speaker 1 led eventually to

Speaker 1 the anime Kaiji and its death games

Speaker 1 as a direct result. And,

Speaker 1 you know, you keep talking about it should be blood sports, but I'm sure we'll find a quick through line to that. Oh, maybe.
Sooner than you think.

Speaker 1 Anyways, all right, something else happened. And this one is weird.
This is okay.

Speaker 1 This is one of these weird weird things where I'm completely outside of this world, and maybe you can give me some insight on how to feel.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 Because I have to say, when I read a headline like Counter-Strike's player economy is in free fall,

Speaker 1 because nearly $2 billion of value and counting have dropped ever since knife skins have become more readily available, I go, well, that sounds hilarious because

Speaker 1 right.

Speaker 1 Because the idea of a ridiculous inflated aftermarket in any of these games is something that I've never participated in in this way. And it sounds crazy that this structure...

Speaker 1 like continues to be a thing, but I know there's tons of MMOs and online games and things where the aftermarket trading thing is just, it's a part of the game economy and people just get used to it.

Speaker 1 And so I am, it seems like fucking dog shit to me every time I hear about it, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 I will,

Speaker 1 uh, I will clear up a little bit around the edges here. We'll just do a little trim around the edges, make it, make sure we're clean, we know what we're doing.

Speaker 1 So online economies and MMOs are supposed to be entirely within their own ecosystem. In the game.
In the game. Yeah.
Paying, except for EVE Online, but that's a different beast altogether.

Speaker 1 Paying for time, paying for clears, paying for items. It's supposed to be for in-game resources.

Speaker 1 It gets more complicated when external actors like gold farmers allow you to turn money into gold, gold into money,

Speaker 1 right? But that is like nearly exclusively outside the realm

Speaker 1 of the beast. Okay.
Right? Eve Online has always allowed you to turn

Speaker 1 into Plex, and then Plex has monetary value, and so above, blah, blah, blah. And then Diablo is the other one I think of.

Speaker 1 And then Diablo 3's auction house wanted to get it going, and that kind of fucking ruined it for everybody.

Speaker 1 So, in Counter-Strike, however, it's using the Steam trading system. So, your skin that you have works the same as like a Steam trading card.
You can sell it for money dollars

Speaker 1 either in the system with Steam Wallet or outside of the system for cash. This means that the system is by default not contained within Counter-Strike.
It has real money value.

Speaker 1 They've created basically skins that are NFTs. They're digital goods.
And the user determines the price on whatever they sell.

Speaker 1 No, well, you can, but the market really determines the price on what you're going to sell. But you can enter the number yourself.
You can enter the number, but Steam will provide a expected

Speaker 1 eBay, eBay-ish, like this is what you should probably be doing, but regardless, yeah okay so the steam

Speaker 1 counter-strike market is

Speaker 1 insanely corrupt it is it is like bordering on criminal depending on what your moral view of it is it is wildly predatory and it's for like it's for like knife skins that don't look good it sucks because knife skins can't be acquired the same way as as other gun skins

Speaker 1 it's basically loot boxes with the combined with like a free market idea

Speaker 1 There have been a number of scandals, a couple of which we have talked about, where you can do like gambling for Counter-Strike skins.

Speaker 1 And what would happen is like I'd be a streamer and I would go on Counter-Strike and I would have an audience that I could look through my metrics and see that it's an 8- to 14-year-old boy audience.

Speaker 1 And I would just run a slot machine on CS skins. And it's crazy, dude.
I would win the most valuable, most rare skins over and over and over. By the way, neglected to inform people.

Speaker 1 I own the website that I'm gambling on. Oh,

Speaker 1 I have rigged the odds in my favor.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 So like it is

Speaker 1 overtly criminal.

Speaker 1 And what all Valve has done is given you the ability to take five Garbo skins and throw them into a pot and use that to upgrade a rarity on something or roll the dice on a higher level.

Speaker 1 Basically keeping it within their own system instead of you going, Oh, I have this, this, this, this trash, and I have to sell it to this guy in order to get the money to get this.

Speaker 1 Instead, they just go, No, just feed it, feed it to the thing.

Speaker 1 Word on the street is, in addition to 14-year-olds, it's also actual, legit, real criminals and gangs and like fucking

Speaker 1 Russian mobsters.

Speaker 1 Money into fake good, into fake good sale, into money out. Yes,

Speaker 1 exactly. Fat Tony is interested.
He heard that.

Speaker 1 So this horribly

Speaker 1 fucked up the skin market, and people are saying, well, the market's back up and all this. And it's like, here's the thing.
The market for this is

Speaker 1 entirely speculative and bordering on criminal. And it's completely outside of our control.
And it's a centralized control that you have no effect on.

Speaker 1 So any investment in this is just dancing on the edge of a knife and just hoping that it doesn't pop before you get out. Like, don't fucking stop.
Ugh.

Speaker 1 All I had were vibes before this, but I'm like, this. It's exactly as dirty as it looks.
Oh, my God. Okay.
So then you see a picture of a fucking knife skin and it's like, it's fucking over.

Speaker 1 It's done.

Speaker 1 My entire wallet is dead. My savings, all of it gone, because the knife skin is now available to other people.

Speaker 1 It is no longer artificially false. Yeah, because for an amount of time,

Speaker 1 the value, you know, there were limited rates. He's like, oh, it's 0.2% of all knives are this knife.

Speaker 1 But then when people had the ability to turn lower-tier shit into higher-tier shit, all of a sudden all the rates got all fucked up. And then the market cracked.
It's a fucking

Speaker 1 publisher. My knife apes, bro.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Okay, it's exactly what it looks like. Yeah, all this aftermarket shit just seems so disgusting every time.

Speaker 1 Dude, it super is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the developer

Speaker 1 has to choose to turn that on.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You okay, buddy?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I saw people in the chat going, oh, man. Oh, the dog's so cute.
I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, he was

Speaker 1 lying on his back. He was flashing balls at us for a bit there, but then they started to slip.
Nothing back there. It's just an empty sack.

Speaker 1 And worth an empty sack worth more than this knife skin, though. Absolutely.
100%.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 the moment the dev chooses to enable that shit, right, you are opening up Pandora's box. Go fuck yourself.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Valve is always at the forefront of ways to make crazy money, right?

Speaker 1 They had a crazy idea back in the aughts, which is what if we had a store you could buy video games on your computer that was easy to use, sure, sure.

Speaker 1 But I also, but I remember that was not the start. But I remember when Chivos came out for the Xbox, and then it was like, you can get those, and that's all fine and dandy.

Speaker 1 But then they were like, what if your achievements gave you a thing that you could trade

Speaker 1 that had a value and cards and profiles and animations and so on. And then now,

Speaker 1 yeah, and then they were like, what if you played a game that ruined your life, but it was free

Speaker 1 with Dota 2? But what if you could buy... So, like, the whole skin economy goes from like, it goes from Team Fortress 2 through Dota into Counter-Strike.

Speaker 1 And it's just, they're always just like new versions of the same thing.

Speaker 1 Now, if this is making them a fuck ton of money, and then this type of change is a spiral that explodes and destroys 2 billion of their overnight,

Speaker 1 You have to question this clearly is a deliberate choice they made that they wanted to happen. Yeah, they wanted to keep more people inside the system rather than going to external sources.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay. So they were trying to flush.

Speaker 1 When you sell your skin to a guy over there through their website, that's technically outside of the system and they're not getting their cut.

Speaker 1 But instead, if you feed the rarity through the, it's a whole fucking thing. Okay.

Speaker 1 And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, oh, who cares about, oh man, what I have.
Well, no, the 2 billion billion is gone.

Speaker 1 All my apes are gone. Buy the dip.

Speaker 1 Buy the dip.

Speaker 1 It's time.

Speaker 1 But this was specifically to flush out Nikolai and Boris. Yeah, a little bit.
This was to kind of flush out. It's not going to work.
Yeah. It's not going to work.

Speaker 1 This was about them a bit more than it was about

Speaker 1 Brayden.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 Ban the Aidens

Speaker 1 this life.

Speaker 1 The Aidens are coming, man. That's an old generation on its way.
Make no mistake.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, there's that.

Speaker 1 You love to see it. You love to see it.

Speaker 1 I also love to see... You know what I love to see? What do you like to see, bud? After a big backlash, after everybody was very upset about the choices that this company made.
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 Capcom says, you know what? Let's release a statement about this whole Capcom Cup pay-per-view situation.

Speaker 1 People's statement. It was a statement.
People seem to be very upset about what's going on.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 hey, everybody, we know what's going on with the Capcom pump, basically. An update regarding the announcement on September 8th, 28th, yada yada.

Speaker 1 Step one, the background of the decision. Here is us explaining that we've made a decision that with Street Fighter League, we want to make money and we want to yada yada.
So

Speaker 1 we're going to be greedy and we're going to be charging people for the pay-per-view pricing.

Speaker 1 And to be fair, to be fair, to be fair, I have also said this. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 I do like the money. So,

Speaker 1 you know, the background is that we would like some money.

Speaker 1 We've always said that.

Speaker 1 I always have said that.

Speaker 1 We will continue to provide

Speaker 1 details about how much money we want soon in late October. So please look forward to us announcing more about the money we want.

Speaker 1 Future communications going forward, we will be clearer and more accessible about updates regarding how much money we want with Capcom Esports.

Speaker 1 Please note that the pre-sale tickets for the pay-per-view of Street Fighter League, we want the money still.

Speaker 1 So we're still going to be asking you to pay us. Please look forward to it.
Is Capcom saying,

Speaker 1 quote, give me money, money me, money now, me a money needing a lot now, end quote?

Speaker 1 Paraphrase, Gibbs, Gibbs,

Speaker 1 with the little hand gesture, Gibbs.

Speaker 1 I think we can summarize.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Yeah, thank you, money, for moneying my money.
I money, money, money.

Speaker 1 However, the quote goes.

Speaker 1 I think, I think, I don't know what the fuck anyone expected. I genuinely don't know what the fuck anyone expected.
I kind of respect them for putting out a statement.

Speaker 1 They put out a statement, but fucking pay me, though. Like, that's really funny.

Speaker 1 They came to the podium and they cleared their throat and leaned into the microphone and made the big bending noise and it went

Speaker 1 and they went

Speaker 1 Gibbs.

Speaker 1 Give me more.

Speaker 1 I want it.

Speaker 1 And everyone's like, work?

Speaker 1 Like, that's it. Did you think they were going to fucking change? Are you crazy? I mean, I just...

Speaker 1 Like, I want to imagine Nakayama over at the development side throwing his phone across the office, like, fucking yeeting that shit at full speed into a wall.

Speaker 1 Because, oh my God, after dancing as delicately as possible around the subject and being, hey, guys, the dev team doesn't have anything to do with these decisions.

Speaker 1 And we sure came up with some great ways to make Capcom Cup profitable without just doing a stupid pay-per-view. And it was cool to do that back in the day, wasn't it? Anyways, it was.

Speaker 1 It was cool, yeah.

Speaker 1 Feeling cute might delete this later. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 Only to be greeted with the official response of nah,

Speaker 1 though,

Speaker 1 is wild.

Speaker 1 It's like silence would have served you better, but all you've done is remind everybody how upset they are and redouble your efforts.

Speaker 1 So, Street Fighter really wants you to get a lot of cash for the tournament.

Speaker 1 You could just watch the box jam slam for free next week.

Speaker 1 See your favorite content creators, even. That's crazy.
Wow.

Speaker 1 I kind of want someone to make a really elaborate Capcom Cup co-stream event that involves them staring at the timer of the match and getting really hype as the timer goes down. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would be nice.

Speaker 1 Anyways,

Speaker 1 fucking wow.

Speaker 1 This has like, okay, for everybody who's like obsessed with like actually seeing the Capcom Cup, this is going to lead to them like watching it pirated.

Speaker 1 But for everybody who's like, oh man, I'll watch the Capcom Cup, but isn't like, I have to watch the Capcom Cup, they've relegated it to the way wrestling pay-per-views were, where like, I'll ask Eric on Monday who won the title.

Speaker 1 Oh, like, yeah, like, no, I'm not going to watch it. I'll just ask you the following Tuesday who won.
If you really want to see

Speaker 1 fucking a Paul brother get knocked out, you're going to pirate that stream. Spoiler alert, that's not going to happen.
That's not the way they're set up.

Speaker 1 However, if you otherwise, you'll just be like, nah, I'll wait for High Fight to do the cool frame-by-frame just breakdown of all the sickest moments and what the top players were thinking.

Speaker 1 Don't point that out. That's too specific.
That's hard. I'll just wait for my favorite account to do an incredible breakdown of the best matches.

Speaker 1 I know it's really hard, but I wish they did way more of those because it's really cool. They take a lot of effort, but High Fight's incredible.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So fuck all that noise, Capcom. Let's talk about some real fighting games over here.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The return of the trilogy Toshinden.

Speaker 1 Sure. Battle Arena Toshinten.
What the fuck you know about Toshinden? I'm going to.

Speaker 1 Edea is porting one, two, and three to modern platforms.

Speaker 1 You in there? You a show main? You play AG?

Speaker 1 I'm like, did we even fucking do oh friday night fit oh you bet you're asking okay i'm gonna ask you to google come up when i no no no no no no no no listen google sophia toshinden and then ask yourself did we not do

Speaker 1 of course we did um this is obari

Speaker 1 art style directed 3d fighting game yes yes yes we did

Speaker 1 It's so weird because it was just an early 3D fighter and it wasn't very good, but it was there and it was 3D and it had characters that were kind of anime and that was it.

Speaker 1 That was that was good enough. That's all you needed to be 100%.

Speaker 1 Um

Speaker 1 so that shit's coming. That's just coming to modern platforms.
Um

Speaker 1 and and more to it. Uh the

Speaker 1 avatar legends um

Speaker 1 fighting game just announced the closed beta test is coming

Speaker 1 soon. We don't know when we don't have the dates yet.
But they showed off a little bit more gameplay footage in this trailer.

Speaker 1 And in this gameplay footage, you can see airbenders moving in really cool ways

Speaker 1 with some sort of movement options. And firebenders moving in unique ways with some firebending options as they fight against each other.

Speaker 1 And it's like, wow, that's a dope ass fucking subsystem going on right there.

Speaker 1 Also, it's a 1v1, you know, fighter, so it's like very Street Fighter-esque in that regard, but it's also

Speaker 1 high speed and lots of cool shit going on, you know, animation-wise, sprite-wise. Looks pretty dope.
Um,

Speaker 1 every time you see little gameplay snippets, you kind of know that they put in little bits to show you, like, hey, we know, right?

Speaker 1 It's like if you're watching and you see like a really fast, like, dirty mix-up, or you see like someone get tech, tech a throw, and you're like, We're putting that in, we're putting this in for anyone who might know what this, what this, like, tech is, you know, and go, ooh, this game has this, or this game has that.

Speaker 1 So, anyway, um, yeah,

Speaker 1 I uh

Speaker 1 I think Avatar is cool, and uh,

Speaker 1 I'm yeah, it's all right, we'll see, we'll see what's going on here. Way better than it, than any right to be for what it was.
It's one of those shows, right?

Speaker 1 That could have been a random fucking like

Speaker 1 flop of a cartoon that would go the way of any 90s forgettable show did, but it turned out to be fantastic.

Speaker 1 A cartoon series that successful based off of that god-awful movie is really impressive. Turning it around.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 managing to wring some value out of that absolute god-awful M. Night Shyamalon movie is just incredible.
It really is. You know, he set it up and they fucking knocked it out of the park.

Speaker 1 What if the Earthbenders were like on a boat? Fucking crazy. That's way better.

Speaker 1 God, I just, I always just, I hear the voice of Patrice O'Neal in my head, just getting so excited, going,

Speaker 1 nah, they're sending everybody for this one kid.

Speaker 1 This movie looks so sick.

Speaker 1 You're just like, why, dude? That is not a crossover. Why? It's so easy to describe.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was excited for the fucking live action airbender movie just because he saw that trailer. He was like, did he see it? I don't think he did.

Speaker 1 I think he was convinced that it was dog shit, you know, by the point that he left us. But man.

Speaker 1 Anyways,

Speaker 1 never minding that shit. There's some cool random indie games that got announced.

Speaker 1 Can I complain about a random indie game that I've been playing lately? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know how Hades 2 said that it was 1.0 and that it was finished?

Speaker 1 Did you believe that to be an abject lie?

Speaker 1 Did you believe that when they said it was? Is this Supergiant Games

Speaker 1 Hades 2? Yes, that would be the one. Ah, hmm.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I am one

Speaker 1 from beating the game, and I am waiting on a patch that is apparently completely changing the entire game's ending from top to bottom. Now, by any chance,

Speaker 1 does this patch have a character name attached to it?

Speaker 1 No, it's not called the NYX patch or something. Patch one.
Okay, cool. Completely rewrites the entire game's ending.

Speaker 1 To the point where if you already beat it, they're going to add a feature to go back in time in your story to redo it.

Speaker 1 Can I?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can a game please be finished when they say it's I'm not I'm not even gonna complain about Rogue Trader again.

Speaker 1 I should but I won't but if they say it

Speaker 1 it's done

Speaker 1 can they mean it please

Speaker 1 serves you right boy yeah now do it again

Speaker 1 i guess that was a pretty good handy impression thank you that was pretty good

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 so no i was talking about uh i saw two indies that popped up that were

Speaker 1 somewhat similar in idea but then some cool shits going on One, there's this game called Ball X Pit.

Speaker 1 I have played Ball Pit. That looks fucking cool.

Speaker 1 I have played Ball X Pit. I have not brought it up on the podcast because I haven't played all that much of it.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It is very cool. It looks so cool.
And I just very cool. I just wanted to call some attention to check this shit out.

Speaker 1 It is a survival roguelike ball busting whatever. You move down an arkanoid style

Speaker 1 track pinball esque and you are doing

Speaker 1 Arkanoid plat ball busting but you're platforming at the same time so you're you're brick so the brick breaker genre is like a breakout right breakout breakout sure

Speaker 1 it's it's it's breakout vampire survivors yeah that's that's that's a that's a great way to put it breakout vampire survivors you're you

Speaker 1 with bullet patterns being dodged at the same time as playing breakout and if you're like man i love breakout and i fucking love vampire survivors

Speaker 1 guess what it it it's it's good yes it's also also very important to note is besides that i that that concept it's exploding with juice it's got many juice it's so juicy um

Speaker 1 now uh uh uh besides

Speaker 1 besides that which is available now and overwhelmingly positive and i just took a look and went yeah that it's i saw like one second of footage and was like yes yes

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 1 and uh, and so in a similar vein, another uh uh mini roguelike over here uh called slots and daggers. Have you seen this?

Speaker 1 Hold on, I think I have a fucking, I think if I if I let's go search my email and see if I've seen it. So, slots and daggers is

Speaker 1 I am aware of it, I have not played it. I'm gonna so this is another

Speaker 1 this email has a quote from northern lion on it quote this one might have the juice

Speaker 1 is juicy ball pit is juicy and slots and daggers is fucking juicy so this is the same thing except you're doing roguelike fights and and progressing and buying weapons and so on but you're doing it inside a slot machine but the slot machine is exploding with juice there's chips and there's coins and every button has some feedback to it and all the noises are going.

Speaker 1 And all the, again, all the things that Balatro could use for evil, but instead is using for good. It feels like it's got that here, too.

Speaker 1 I haven't played either of these, but I just took a look at them and went, yeah, that looks fucking cool. So

Speaker 1 it just, and you're clicking on things and you're getting feedback. And it's, and you know what it has? It has the lighting that

Speaker 1 Inscription had, where you're looking at like pixel art assets in a

Speaker 1 in a realistically lit environment, you know?

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 so so yeah, that's that's also just fucking roguelike clicker. Uh, um,

Speaker 1 ball, it's not ball X pit, it's just ball pit. The trailer says ball pit.
Well, I mean, I just call it fucking ball pit, but I think ball X pit is how you type it to cert to find.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I want to say ball pit. Hunter, hunter,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to say a ball pit out loud.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 the last little indie game here

Speaker 1 known as Kirby Air Riders.

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 1 Up and comer, little dev, known as

Speaker 1 Sakurai?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's got some bright ideas. He's got some interesting stuff.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, he's got a little game coming out, and apparently there's a global test ride. So if you want to try it out, like, there's a set, there's two Nintendo directs for it, and

Speaker 1 in summary, shit looks fucking sick. And like, what are you going to say? It's a Sakurai game.
He's going to make way too much. And you know that because he confirmed.

Speaker 1 He's like, by the way, this is not a revitalization of a series that'll be ongoing, nor is there any planned DLC.

Speaker 1 So it's just fucking Kirby. It's all going to be in there.
Story Story mode, lore mode, fucking... You watch a city trial.
People that like Kirby Airride Man, good for them.

Speaker 1 I couldn't even fathom an interested blink.

Speaker 1 It's hype.

Speaker 1 And I really appreciate the clip of Max where everyone's getting hype over Rick, the return of Rick the Hamster, because Rick was a little, little, one of Kirby's friends that he could ride on in Kirby Adventure in 3, you know?

Speaker 1 And he's been gone for a while. So seeing him come back and you can ride on him and stuff is really cool, just like Wheelie and everything.
And then he's like, this is what the fuck?

Speaker 1 People are just getting excited for a hamster? That's so crazy. What's next? A random rock?

Speaker 1 And then Rocky is here, you know? Like, yeah,

Speaker 1 let's fucking go.

Speaker 1 So hype.

Speaker 1 Love it.

Speaker 1 Um, it's the best. It's the best.
So that's, that's, uh, there's, there's very little you need to

Speaker 1 keep track of except for if you want to try out an early version of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, November 8th, 9th, and then 15th and 16th.

Speaker 1 News as of like a few minutes ago. Let's go.
New World, the Amazon MMO, is

Speaker 1 done being developed. It is

Speaker 1 going to be over.

Speaker 1 They're going to keep the servers operating to 2026, but the next content is the last one. Hold on a minute.
Is this the game that we talked about like four years ago? I'm going to hold up my finger.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell you this is the game that you could type in code into the chat box and

Speaker 1 it would be a script thing.

Speaker 1 It is over now.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Amazon Game Studios affected by mass company layoffs, layoffs, including the World Team.

Speaker 1 AI is going to do it. Amazon Game Studios affected by mass company layoffs.
Are we in a fucking...

Speaker 1 Are we trapped in a cycle? A little bit. Are we staring at the...
Are we looking at ourselves in the portal to the past right now? Is it just the same? Like,

Speaker 1 it's current year. Amazon tried making games.
It didn't work.

Speaker 1 They laid everybody off.

Speaker 1 Has had the. I wake up.
It's current year.

Speaker 1 Amazon's the worst at making games because they have no patience

Speaker 1 That's it

Speaker 1 I mean just quote from the guy behind Prime Gaming. He's like we thought we were gonna be a competitor to Steam Yeah, and the interviewer was like what do you mean?

Speaker 1 He's like, you know like a service and it's like you have a service

Speaker 1 like Like they have the single most popular online storefront in the world and like you couldn't just put an ad that like a button that said hey, did you know Prime Gaming has a a fucking ad?

Speaker 1 Like, okay, fine, whatever.

Speaker 1 Listen, man,

Speaker 1 at least live action Fury had the decency to cancel itself immediately upon release. And the Luna.
Did we even bring that up afterwards? Because it just killed itself.

Speaker 1 The Luna and the Lunatics continued to exist well into the Stadium's era.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 you know, it takes a level of like big blind money

Speaker 1 obfuscation to not know that a project is failing for a couple years before they catch on and kill it.

Speaker 1 It's, it's, I talked like at length about this on my show a few days ago, and I was like, I'm not an economist, but I do have an education in psychology, and I am a completely obsessed freak bit nerd about the video game industry.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I'm not an economist, but why is it that me and you and many, many many people in this chat have spent like literally 30 years going, oh, that's a scam. That's going to crash.

Speaker 1 Just being right every single fucking time. I don't know.
I remember the virtual boy being the first one, and I remember being the phantom being the second one.

Speaker 1 I remember reading about the phantom in a magazine and going, that's never going to come out.

Speaker 1 It feels like this feeling, what you're describing, it feels like this exists in everything, except it's just a simple matter of no matter what form of business you're talking about the people making the decisions don't actually talk to the people that consume the thing they're like like it's just a matter of asking the person that's right there buying the ticket or the ob or the product or the event or whatever the fuck it is is always is always secondary to consumer psychology it like like always all those things you just described not having don't fucking matter because you have a vibe that everyone here also also has that's just like nah that's stupid what the fuck fuck that i'm not spending my money on that and it's over and they're just and like it's just that simple it's a simple

Speaker 1 thought and it's done and it's dead do you remember touching an ouyah controller

Speaker 1 and just going i'm never gonna play a game on this fucking thing like literally never and then and then but then you have to think about the person who's making the decisions that holds that controller and doesn't understand why what the problem is.

Speaker 1 They can't identify it. They're like, Yeah, it's like that one over there that the people do like.
The kids enjoy that one.

Speaker 1 Those are the types of people, the people that cannot extricate meaning or value from their everyday world who are so utterly fooled by AI because close enough is how they view

Speaker 1 interaction around them. Right, right, right.

Speaker 1 And all you have to do is actually participate in the thing,

Speaker 1 actually

Speaker 1 play a game and or just keep up.

Speaker 1 Actually, participate in the thing you're investing in here to know a thing or two about it instead of just going off of what your kid's playing on his phone and then yelling at

Speaker 1 who was it? You know,

Speaker 1 the next investor meeting. There was some fucking dipshit HBO, fucking 2B Peebo, whatever the fuck it was, who was like, there's a real market for feature-length films.

Speaker 1 Lawrence of Arabia on your phone. On your phone, in vertical, because my son keeps watching Netflix.

Speaker 1 Lawrence of Arabia on your phone. And that was the at was that Quibi? Was that Poobo? No, I think it was just straight up Netflix.
Was it Quibby? Never mind. Excuse me, Quibby.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.
All right. You can just poob it.

Speaker 1 Are you familiar with that? Poob?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, okay. Hold on.
Oh, hold on.

Speaker 1 It's a copypasta that sums up

Speaker 1 the media landscape. Ah, yes, yes.
It's a Tumblr post that I believe came from a gentleman named Orcboxer, which is, have you seen the new show? It's on Tubu. It's literally on Heebe.

Speaker 1 It's on Poodie with ads. It's literally on Dippy.
You can probably find it on WeNO. Dude, it's on Gumpy.
It's a Fibo original. It's on Poob.

Speaker 1 You can watch it on Poob. You can go to Poob and watch it.
Welcome to Poob right now. Go to Poob.
Dive into Poob. You can poop it.
It's on Poob. Poob has it for you.
Poob has it for you.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 this is years old.

Speaker 1 It's getting like

Speaker 1 funnier and funnier over time.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck. That's exactly.
This is exactly it. Just insert word.

Speaker 1 Just poop it up.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck. Yeah.
Because

Speaker 1 they're all these fucking fake, cute little doobies and shitmos.

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 try the thing for one second and realize. Say it out loud once.

Speaker 1 Poob.

Speaker 1 It's on poo.

Speaker 1 You could poo it right now.

Speaker 1 Dive into poob.

Speaker 1 A poob original.

Speaker 1 I think Gumpy and Vebo original. That's solid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know is also pretty good.
I kind of like Weino.

Speaker 1 That one's sticking. That's strong.

Speaker 1 That's a pretty strong one.

Speaker 1 You know, like, I was, because I'm, I laugh at the idea of like apps where you just take a verb and take the last vowel out of it. Yeah.
You know,

Speaker 1 thripper or

Speaker 1 whatever, and you got to have the P and the R next to each other. But then, yeah, but this is also like the cutesy one.
Well, that's that's what Xbox is trying to do. Everything's an Xbox shit.

Speaker 1 They want everyone to say, Oh, my. They want the whole purpose of everything's an Xbox is they want human beings to say Xbox to mean video games, like people say Nintendo.
Nintendo on the Nintendo.

Speaker 1 The problem is that people say Nintendo to mean video games, and that's never

Speaker 1 gonna change. Like, never,

Speaker 1 ever.

Speaker 1 Counterpoint, I don't think kids these days are saying it. I think it's that's still boomer plus.

Speaker 1 They're not saying anything, they're in their classrooms not knowing how to read and getting behavioral problems.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think, um,

Speaker 1 I think people are, I think, how about you read 67 pages in a row without fucking text to speech, you fucking nerds.

Speaker 1 I think, I think we're past the

Speaker 1 things being called Nintendo. Now the kids are on to 6'7.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there you go. Exactly.
True. I gotta say, I do think that the children are cringe and that their shit is whack.
However,

Speaker 1 I feel like people our age do not remember how cringe and whack our shit was. Oh, you don't know.
You don't get it. There's a real confirmation bias going on.
You do not get to laugh about 6'7

Speaker 1 or call call it cringe if you memed E.

Speaker 1 If you're part of the generation that memed E for a while or even B for that matter. Yeah.
You don't get to laugh at it.

Speaker 1 Hey, you want to hear a really good, you want to hear a really excellent version of this shit?

Speaker 1 Okay, so sometimes you're in the car and the baby, the toddler is like, I want to listen to music, right? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 And you're in the middle of talking to your wife about how fucked the new generation is is and how they can't read and all their shit is insufferable and skitty bitty toilet.

Speaker 1 And you're playing Rafi for your child because Rafi is a cool guy who does great children's songs. And here comes Beluga, you know, here comes Down by the Bay, etc.

Speaker 1 And here we go with motherfucking banana phone. Ah.

Speaker 1 And you're gripped with the absolute fucking stranglehold that's had on your internet life for a multi-year period. And you're like, Yeah, no, that

Speaker 1 it had staying power. Fuck it.
Let's sing it. It's fun to sing.
It had staying power. Staying power.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 It's got a title.

Speaker 1 When I was improvising some random little sing-songies to start singing at her,

Speaker 1 first things that came to mind were grenadian elementary school songs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it just, but shit that I hadn't,

Speaker 1 shit I haven't scratched in fucking 40 years started coming back out. You know, singing the counting song and stuff that came straight from the islands.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm like, I had not accessed that memory in a very long time. I barely even knew that was still in there.
So,

Speaker 1 anyways,

Speaker 1 let's grab a letter or two. Hey, if you want to send it a letter, send it to castlesuperbeastmail at gmail.com.
That's castlesuperbeastmail at gmail.com.

Speaker 1 All right, we got a couple

Speaker 1 in here.

Speaker 1 Let's see. We got a bunch of these.

Speaker 1 All right. Remirai, how you doing?

Speaker 1 Oh, Remarai. Hey, man.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 1 Hello, Wicked Woolly and Pat Liachi. A few years ago, I played a casual management game called Bear and Breakfast.
You play as a bear running a few different vacation sites, and as such,

Speaker 1 you get more and more responsibilities, things like checking in-and-out guests, preparing meals, heating, stuff like that. But you're a bear.

Speaker 1 When I had a charming, while I had a charming art style, it had a charming art style and lots of potential, it felt undercooked because at the time I was playing it, the worst thing I noticed, gameplay design-wise, was every major reward was the ability to automate chores entirely at the cost of effectiveness.

Speaker 1 A game making a core component of its design kind of boring and then rewarding you with the ability to not have to use the mechanics at all felt like a huge misstep.

Speaker 1 The game should be fun to play and then make you want to engage with it even more. So, this was just a weird design choice.
Can you think of any really bad rewards or upgrades?

Speaker 1 The gaming equivalent of a Charlie Brown getting rocks while kicking while tricking or treating.

Speaker 1 Okay, so first of all, I'm going to tell this person, Remerai, you're a wonderful man, I love you, and your games are great, especially the ones that have me in them.

Speaker 1 True, but

Speaker 1 don't play Factorio or Satisfactory

Speaker 1 busy work becoming the automated process, yeah. Um,

Speaker 1 I mean, in terms of awful rewards, you know,

Speaker 1 there are always standout examples. I've been making fun of fucking 100 Etsio feathers to get his mom to talk for years.

Speaker 1 That's the only way to get her to open her mouth up.

Speaker 1 Recently, I was talking about in Shinobi how there's a kunai upgrade that makes you throw three kunai out, but then now you can't do combos as effectively anymore by

Speaker 1 juggling them off. So the upgrade actually makes your comboing worse because you want it as a juggle opportunity, not a thing to just kill them out or drop the body.

Speaker 1 I think FF16 giving the player the Blitz Ring like 10% through the game and making the dodge like so insanely

Speaker 1 not a great idea because you're like, I should take this off because it'll be more fun. But

Speaker 1 it's like the single most effective piece of gear you have. And it feels cool to use it, though.
Yeah. Like, so I'm like, I didn't feel like it was a downgrade in that regard.

Speaker 1 It just felt busted, right? Which we have to self-regulate on a bunch of times in other games. I'm going to say, to me, I think top of all time, just go fuck yourself is 900 Corox.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I think 900 Corox is peak Nintendo GoFuck Yourself.
Well, you were never supposed to get all of them. No, because the reward.
That's an argument.

Speaker 1 The reward for getting them all is a piece of shit. Yeah.
You get a golden turd. Get fucked, loser.
Celebrating your accomplishment. You know?

Speaker 1 So that's, to me, the all-time most just

Speaker 1 fuck you

Speaker 1 reward and busy work nonsense.

Speaker 1 It's like you put it in there to make fun of the player and then it's in a Zelda game and then you fucking shit on them for doing it.

Speaker 1 Halfway through you stop getting inventory expansion. It just fucking becomes.

Speaker 1 You found me.

Speaker 1 I'm having trouble, but there's a lot of upgrades you can get in games that

Speaker 1 make parts of your character's kit just too strong enough in one direction that they either screw up the rhythm you had before or incentivize you not having a gameplay rhythm at all.

Speaker 1 They incentivize you just do this move over and over and over and over again. Right, right, right, right, right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 um,

Speaker 1 like, oh, you know what? Thank you. Someone in chat, thank you, Merc Jones.

Speaker 1 Death Stranding 2's snow tires are like game-ruining because you're like, man, I'm spending a lot of time in the truck, but at least we're in the mountains now.

Speaker 1 And the game gives you snow tires that you climb mountains with the truck. And I'm like, god damn it.
This is a million times stronger and more efficient than walking.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 If anything's giving you trouble in Devil May Cry for a special edition, just lunar phase.

Speaker 1 Just do it. That's that'll not a whole lot that knows how to deal with it.
Just take a minute to think about your next move, and in the meantime, lunar phase.

Speaker 1 All right, let's see here. We got one coming in from Daisy who says,

Speaker 1 Dear my favorite tech and

Speaker 1 economic journalists, your discussion about the slow crash of the industry made me think, is this actually a slow crash, or does our perspective of history expect it to be faster?

Speaker 1 It seems like recorded history makes it easy to talk about major moments in a couple sentences, distorting our awareness that historical speed is measured in years instead of days.

Speaker 1 When we read about a decade-long event in 10 seconds, do we expect that kind of speed constantly? Food for thought.

Speaker 1 People think that because the internet's screwed up their brains and the perspective of the flow of time. But let me give you a really good example.
In 1939,

Speaker 1 like most people in North America did not realize that World War II was happening.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, wow,

Speaker 1 there's a conflict in Europe. Oh, crazy.
Well, I guess it depends on

Speaker 1 the money. Most people, depending on where you lived, right?

Speaker 1 That's why I said North America. Yeah, yeah, okay, right.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 this makes sense to me, but I also remember that, like, since we're the last generation, like, before internet, right?

Speaker 1 I feel like we have a much more tangible

Speaker 1 access to the slower pace of media being released and how like one thing would come out and you just stick to that one thing for months, if not most of a year.

Speaker 1 And then another thing next year was like, holy shit, thing two, you know.

Speaker 1 But you just digested so much less and events happened less frequently. Also, being younger meant you weren't paying attention to world events as much, you know? I remember while I was trying to

Speaker 1 watch Power Rangers and

Speaker 1 then my cousins were switching over to Rap City, then my parents would switch on the news and I'd hear about Bosnia and Sarajevo. And I'd be like, I don't know what those things are, but okay.

Speaker 1 And, you know, now the idea of rolling through a Doom Scroll and rattling off like 50 news stories and hitting the end of it in one bathroom shit

Speaker 1 is insanity. That you were never supposed to hear about bad things happening for that more than a mile from where you fucking live.

Speaker 1 Whatever. 10,000 faces in your life, you know, like yada, yada, right? So that's it.
So it kind of is true that history feels like

Speaker 1 in some ways you read about it in this insanely fast way, but it also does feel like things went slower back then compared to like reading these lines now.

Speaker 1 So yeah, our sense of time is completely warped.

Speaker 1 Like you look at, you look at a movie like The Big Short, which is about the fucked up housing market shit right i remember being not was i adult i think i was i think being 2008

Speaker 1 yeah during the housing market crash and all that shit and i didn't realize that i was in the lead up and the fallout of the fucking housing crisis right

Speaker 1 right i oh the the market crashed crazy like that's literally all i like you know um but now in the history books it's like there's a fucking nice bookend on either end of like this is when it started this is when it started to pop.

Speaker 1 That was a crazy, that was a crazy bubble that popped there. It sure is nice that all the people responsible went to jail.
Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 what are you gonna do? You can't put people with money in jail.

Speaker 1 What would happen?

Speaker 1 I don't fucking know.

Speaker 1 Like, we would enter a fucking, like, we would divide by zero. Would we just

Speaker 1 dunch? A black hole. No, no, no, supposed to fucking know.
Would a black hole spawn in the jail cell?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Anyways.

Speaker 1 Sure, man.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so it's only

Speaker 1 subjects that you are particularly deep in on that

Speaker 1 you can start to form the beginning and end of the process

Speaker 1 before the historical event is over, right? So like we're talking about the AI bubble, and we were talking about the AI bubble, like, I want to say like a year ago, right?

Speaker 1 Before, and it was like, oh, this is, but, like, I remember the creation of the genesis of the AI bubble, which was actually a bad patch in World of Warcraft. Do you remember?

Speaker 1 When they used

Speaker 1 generated assets? No, it's when they nerfed Warlock in World of Warcraft, and the Russian guy who loved to play Warlock got so mad about centralized infrastructure that he invented Bitcoin. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, I remember when that happened. Wait, is that Satoshi or whatever? Is that how that happened? No, yeah, that's the first guy.
I forget his name. Satoshi Nakamoto or whatever.
Ethereum.

Speaker 1 No, he's a Russian guy. No, okay, no, no.
Bitcoin.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Bitcoin was Satoshi.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so

Speaker 1 that happened.

Speaker 1 And and then Ethereum becomes a GPU sucking down freak bitch, okay, and then using GPUs for economic nonsense starts to go up, and then you go from that to NFTs, and then you go for NFTs to AI because we have all these fucking generated farms and yada, yada, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 You had to be paying attention at the beginning

Speaker 1 to feel the to feel the time,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 it It is the case.

Speaker 1 But, you know, also I would say too that we were made to handle

Speaker 1 perhaps a couple less dozen historical events

Speaker 1 per day.

Speaker 1 That is the millennial curse. Right.
So my dad went through some historical events, but they were like relatively few and far between.

Speaker 1 Now, for the world that we live in and the problems that it is, I remember talking to my dad about this and he's like, well,

Speaker 1 at least you're not just afraid of a nuclear fucking attack every day at school. And I'm like, you know what, dad? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You fucking got me there. Yeah, yeah.
Dive under the desk.

Speaker 1 Fair enough.

Speaker 1 Fair enough, man. That must have been rough.

Speaker 1 Any day now, you know?

Speaker 1 I mean, we're kind of back there for different reasons, but like just,

Speaker 1 wow.

Speaker 1 And you know, we have our plague and that's not good, but my dad,

Speaker 1 their generation also had their plague, which was the polio and the measles and the mumps and rubella.

Speaker 1 And I'm glad those are all gone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, by the way, here's some mercury. Go have some fun.
Go play with it. See you later, kids.
I got to be honest.

Speaker 1 If I didn't, mercury looks super fun. It really, I want to touch it.
I want

Speaker 1 no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 I said that, but I want to touch it. I remember, dude, okay.

Speaker 1 I remember watching Hot Shots Part D, where they do the blood sport joke and they break a fucking mercury thermometer in his hand, and he's like, ooh, and I know it's gallium, like, now I know it's gallium, but he's like, oh, and I remember looking at that and going, that looks so cool.

Speaker 1 Would it look, would it do that if I broke the thermometer?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can play with gallium. Gallium's safe.
Okay. Oh, gallium isn't much better? Oh, fuck off.

Speaker 1 The safe for kids one? Fuck off. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Love that.

Speaker 1 Fuck off. No.
I just want to play with dangerous chemicals. Listen, it's totally, the methadone is totally safe.

Speaker 1 You should use that, actually.

Speaker 1 It's it's not even a switch just start on methadone hey let me ask you this is way out way out we're way going way out okay we're out remember in your chemistry class

Speaker 1 your chemistry teacher said

Speaker 1 literally the the first thing going into the lab don't drink out of these fucking beakers

Speaker 1 how long did it take

Speaker 1 how long did it take Because for me, it was a kid named Michael, and it was literally within five minutes walking from

Speaker 1 soaking water out of a fucking beaker.

Speaker 1 So David was like in a special class and he was joining in our class but he was not actually like he was usually you know so yeah okay yeah it was one of the you know for sure well that's okay no i'm

Speaker 1 hey it was literally like mike was like hey guys check this out and i looked over and i'm like man you didn't even rinse that out

Speaker 1 you don't even

Speaker 1 although shout outs shout outs to mr goodman though because he's like today we're going to be dissecting frogs and all the girls would be like no and he'd he'd be like, Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's totally

Speaker 1 weighing it. I remember having a discussion with my parents because I had really good grades.
I'm like, if they do the if they hit me with the frog stuff, I'm not going to do it. I don't care.

Speaker 1 I will, I will get a bad grade. I will do it on that.

Speaker 1 I do not want to cut a frog apart for kicks. That just seems horrible.

Speaker 1 I will not do that. He pushed it.

Speaker 1 I dissected a cow's eye,

Speaker 1 but it wasn't attached to the fucking cow. See, that bugs me more simply because of the idea.
You know, I can't. It's gross.
Yeah, I hate that. I hate that because I don't like eye stuff.

Speaker 1 I feel like I'm like, well, that's like makes me think of my eye getting split open. Well, I mean, that bothers me.
I got to be blunt. I don't think anybody, I think that's.

Speaker 1 I think you're describing a human reaction.

Speaker 1 Like, that is, that is definitely not unique to you. But, like, if you had to pick any other part of the cow, like, I'm like, you picked the one that makes me.

Speaker 1 It'd be any part of the cow, it'd be the part that's not attached to the alive cow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that'd be nice. That's

Speaker 1 the part.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Somebody says they had to dissect an adult cat.
That reminds me of my favorite veterinary school story.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I ran into a friend of mine. I ran into Christina from high school, and she went to, she was the girl with a snake and an iguana.
And she's like, I'm going to be a fucking veterinarian. Right?

Speaker 1 And guess what? She was in in the good college for veterinarian school and she was killing it. And I ran into her a couple of years later and she's like, I'm almost out of vet school.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, cool, what do they got you guys doing? I was like, well, when we first get there, what do you, you know what you got to do? I'm like, what do you do? They're like, you skin cats.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. And I go, what? They go, they bring in a truck of euthanized cats and they give you a cat.
And they go, skin these cats. And I go, why?

Speaker 1 And they go, well, you have to learn, you have to practice how to operate on animals.

Speaker 1 And the best way to do that is to just skin a bunch of cats. And I go, oh, cool.
And she goes, you know what's funny? And I go, and this is not like, I'm like, she's desensitized.

Speaker 1 And that's good because you can dumb that. Just kill it inside, kill your inside.
But this is not a conversation that I was expecting to hear the phrase, you know what's funny, though.

Speaker 1 And what she says is, you know, how they say there's more than one good way to skin a cat? I go, yeah. She's like, no, there isn't.
There's one good way.

Speaker 1 And I go, go

Speaker 1 cool cool yep yep and i'm like that woman is gonna grow up to be an incredible vet

Speaker 1 so i'll tell you what you do that's horrendous and and

Speaker 1 insane but if you find yourself in that environment you look around you and you see who's enjoying it a little too much

Speaker 1 it was a bus stop at angring yo and there was nobody

Speaker 1 wait no i mean no, I'm saying in the class, if you're in a class full of, if you're in a room full of people and everybody's dissecting cats as you're told to do, look for the person who's enjoying that process a little too much.

Speaker 1 You bag tagging to do the little check?

Speaker 1 You just eyeball it.

Speaker 1 Yep. Just be like, all right, duly noticed.
Everybody in here better be soft and dry.

Speaker 1 Man, I didn't think I was going to say that phrase today.

Speaker 1 As opposed to soft and wet.

Speaker 1 Tattoo artists have to practice on pig skin.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's about right.

Speaker 1 And the really cool tattoo artists just practice on their own fucking leg.

Speaker 1 I know a couple.

Speaker 1 I know more than one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, there's synthetic skin now and stuff, but you know, depending on where you come from, like what, like, I was under the impression that synthetic skin was just like, it's nice, but.

Speaker 1 It's not, no, no, straight up. No, that's that's real, right?

Speaker 1 There are, so there are people who go, like, yeah, the fake skin you can get to practice on, it doesn't have the same texture, it doesn't heal the same way, not heal, it doesn't land the same way, it's not going to give you the same sort of vibe.

Speaker 1 And furthermore, like, I, I was, you know, one of the artists, the guy who did like my vagabond stuff, like, he's from Korea, and he's like, yeah, we're working on pig skin.

Speaker 1 That's what you fucking do. What do we, what are we spending because people are just kind of piggy.
Who's oink oink? Um,

Speaker 1 thank you

Speaker 1 and flash wise, anyway. Thank you, tattoo artist Luca Blight.

Speaker 1 Anyways, all right. I think we got that.

Speaker 1 And one more interesting one here.

Speaker 1 Dear Patron3000 in Willsworth. What's up, man? Mr.

Speaker 1 Jones says, I enjoyed listening to your recent conversation about Act 3 of Silksong and how the game, if it was created prior to the advent of the internet that we know today, would have been a journey of discovery for many people, finding that experience is part of what makes it fun.

Speaker 1 I started thinking about how these natural experiences in older gamers occur and remember having games.

Speaker 1 I remember that these experiences are no longer present in games, mostly due to modern YouTube, Twitch creators, and so on. I say this with no hate.

Speaker 1 In my opinion, what makes the loss of discovery in games

Speaker 1 worse is the tutorialization of games. Most players won't care about this if they only play single-player games, but as somebody who loves to play

Speaker 1 tanks in everything multiplayer, especially MMOs, trying to do a dungeon run for the first time, failing, learning, and then doing it right while being the wall

Speaker 1 upon which all must break for your team feels great and is a ton of fun. It's an experience that isn't replicated in anything else.

Speaker 1 I recently started playing a game that launched in early access called Fellowship. It's essentially a casual bite-sized MMO experience where you run dungeons repeatedly.

Speaker 1 And I had a lot of fun the first few days of it being out, learning with the community. But within a week, there were already guides and tutorials being made for each dungeon character, et cetera.

Speaker 1 And with them, the inevitable person who tells you, you should have watched the tutorial beforehand.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm just an old head, but I find that readily available guides and tutorials for everything have made the MMO community and other multiplayer communities much more toxic than they were.

Speaker 1 Optimization is great, but having fun and playing the game cooperatively should always come first. Would love to hear your thoughts.
All right.

Speaker 1 So if you want to see a really wildly detailed breakdown of this topic, you can go down to Folding Ideas and watch a video that's about 90 minutes long called Why It's Rude to Suck at Warcraft,

Speaker 1 in which they discuss the

Speaker 1 mentality and design that goes into

Speaker 1 the exact thing that he's talking about. But shout out Mountain Dan, Dan Olson.
There's massive confirmation bias going on here.

Speaker 1 So Mr.

Speaker 1 Jones forgets what it's like to play a game in which all information is hoarded by players, and there's nothing in the game to actually help you, and those players will lord that information over you.

Speaker 1 Because he describes, yeah, he describes like learning to be a really good tank. And what I remember is games in which there's nothing to help people learn to be a good tank, and people who

Speaker 1 have no information given to them won't learn anything and therefore

Speaker 1 just stay shit forever.

Speaker 1 And one of the things like World of Warcraft is a really good example. World of Warcraft Classic

Speaker 1 right now is like a completely solved game. And part of that solved gameness is the fact that it was actually really easy because nothing in the game taught you anything.

Speaker 1 Like, the actual listed internal mechanics of how things happened and worked in World of Warcraft are

Speaker 1 pretty simple

Speaker 1 because nobody knew how anything worked. Now that Wild Classic is completely solved,

Speaker 1 it's a whole different fucking thing and it's all about speedrunning now because it's solved.

Speaker 1 I feel kind of lucky that I have a real outsider's vibe of like um the type of specific co-op toxicity that comes from these types of genres because like from the outside the way you describe this shit it sounds like miserable sometimes and like I know the highs must be like super worth it to fucking high

Speaker 1 when you're coordinating with everybody and it's amazing but like yeah the lows are shit oh my god it sounds so miserable to me

Speaker 1 and like

Speaker 1 I don't

Speaker 1 yeah, I'm just, I'm just like, the idea of the, the, like, getting off the game and feeling like my night was ruined because just

Speaker 1 a screaming match with somebody, you know, online trying to play, and I have to listen to them in my ear screaming about what I'm not doing properly or whatever. It just sounds like

Speaker 1 I don't want to play. I just don't want legeg.

Speaker 1 League of Legends is maybe the most nefarious

Speaker 1 evil invention created by a scientist to harm you. Because there's a really fun game inside League of Legends.
And you start League of Legends, and League of Legends gives you a tutorial.

Speaker 1 And it teaches you how to control your guy and what items do and how you use your skills. And it'll even tell you

Speaker 1 what lanes you can go down. And you do the tutorial and you play a couple bot games.
And then you load up into a regular match.

Speaker 1 And you will walk out the door. and without fail, the first time you leave spawn, one of your teammates will say

Speaker 1 the most out-of-pocket, meanest shit you have ever seen in your life to you

Speaker 1 because you somehow fucked it.

Speaker 1 Somehow. You just walked out the front door and you fucked it.
The match might as well be lost at this point. And now you have to play with them for 35 fucking more minutes.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 It is

Speaker 1 like created by an evil scientist.

Speaker 1 So, what you did, I remember when you were describing this process and how horrendous it can be, and that it culminates in a point where the screaming asshole just stops screaming and just starts feeding.

Speaker 1 And just says, you know what? No, I'm going to spend my night making you upset so that we all lose.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. You, I

Speaker 1 You need to get into some kind of toxic co-op.

Speaker 1 You need

Speaker 1 this core experience. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, a little bit of like online fucking whatever, Overwatch, random cue, fucking Apex and Titanfall

Speaker 1 existed. You didn't get a piece of it.
Because if you even played one solo cue match of Apex and both your dudes just

Speaker 1 fucking

Speaker 1 splitsies and you just went you fucking motherfuckers that's that that's that's the that's a piece of it yeah I random queued up with a duo that was cussing me the fuck out in Spanish they were so mad

Speaker 1 they were

Speaker 1 so mad so good this duo was not having it bro and I

Speaker 1 and I could not understand what they were saying but it was it was not nice oh I love that the the sim the the sounds I heard were not nice sounds there's something like really wild about like doing really poorly in like league, and then people start like begging you for money in Portuguese, and you're like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 Yeah. How could I, if I even wanted to send you the money, I don't know how you're saying it.

Speaker 1 Good stuff. Good, good, good question.
I like that.

Speaker 1 Or observation for that matter. And there's no putting the genie back in the bottle.
Like, it's, that's what it, that's where we live now, you know? But

Speaker 1 I'm of the opinion that, that large-scale information availability is is absolutely a better way because more people actually get to play the game as intended.

Speaker 1 I play when you play when you boot games up, ever since I remember like cell phone games that were like, hey, this game is better with headphones.

Speaker 1 When you play Super Hexagon, you might enjoy this better if you put headphones on. The sounds are really cool.

Speaker 1 And now you get that with some games where they'll be like, yeah, put the headphones on or real Yakasa play with a game pad, whatever the fuck.

Speaker 1 I would not be surprised if some sort of message was kind of like, hey, this was meant to be played without the internet telling you everything about it.

Speaker 1 You can do that if you want, but for maximum enjoyment, don't go to Fextra Life.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 I've got an MMO example that I think covers all three bases that we have going on here. So, we can talk about Final Fantasy XI and Final Fantasy XIV.

Speaker 1 So, in both of those games, there are unique monsters that

Speaker 1 will pop up and spawn on certain timers,

Speaker 1 and you can kill them for valuable rewards, right?

Speaker 1 So, friend of the show, one Maximilian dude, made his bones in Final Fantasy XI by just learning and knowing where all the good shit spawned and on what timer and when, and how to beat them efficiently.

Speaker 1 And so, he was able to just go out and be like, This guy's gonna pop. I'm gonna go get him with some people, and we're gonna get good stuff and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I think, yeah, he was playing a chair. Oh my god, because he's crazy, right? Wow, and that represented a really incredibly cool experience

Speaker 1 for

Speaker 1 Max. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right? That's beast. For most people on his server, that represented, what the fuck? How this guy just, the monsters,

Speaker 1 he's never up. The monster's never up.
I just got, I want, there's supposed to be a monster here that I can kill rewards. And some guy just swoops in and kills him.
And he's gone. What the fuck?

Speaker 1 How does he always do it? Right?

Speaker 1 That's what most people experience in the final fantasy 14 version you have hunts that are somewhat similar and the communities decided to run link shells which is the like an in-game discord and then they ran discords and now they have

Speaker 1 scouters who

Speaker 1 troll server locations to see the hunts. They ping them.
There are now apps that will ping them. They will feed into a centralized database.

Speaker 1 There is a website that you can go to that has a timer that people manage that rolls it up.

Speaker 1 And so if you're in a hunt discord, you will get a ping on your server when you join up and it will ping you and go, hey, there's a hunt train starting in 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 And everybody who wants to go there creates a party and party finder, joins up, joins up with the thing, gets ready, runs every zone in the expansion in a 55-minute period, kills every single hunt, gets all the rewards, and then they'll cycle 36 hours later or whatever the fuck it is.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And that is the new version.
Now, that is actually available to lots more people than the first one was, but it's not nearly as romantic because it's automated.

Speaker 1 Like, people are just automating the thing.

Speaker 1 So, now that we're in this world, the best thing that you should probably do is just have the game tell you when these things fucking spawn so that all players can go and get them instead of the people who are freak-ass enough to hang out in this degenerate Discord like me.

Speaker 1 I mean, as far as single-player experiences go, we live in a world where watch for rolling rocks exists.

Speaker 1 Okay?

Speaker 1 Skipping dimensions into parallel realities in Mario 64

Speaker 1 via a series of very, very, very specific jumps is a thing that people figured out and do. Like

Speaker 1 watch any year's AGDQ or whatever.

Speaker 1 I feel like the idea idea of just like shared information being out there in this way is like

Speaker 1 you can, yeah, I said it with Silksong. Anyways, you can choose as a creator to make your game and pretend that it'll be playable offline in a cabin in the woods if you want to.

Speaker 1 It works a lot better for single-player stuff.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, where you're, you know, but like just straight up telling the player, this is how

Speaker 1 it's intended to be played, I think would be a reasonable thing to do at some point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so like, basically, my point is that if you, if you have a community, particularly for a multiplayer game, that is going to data mine, automate, you know, streamline the shit for the people who are into it, you have now just created a two-tier system of people who are just playing the game and people who are have the information and those data.

Speaker 1 And if you've already hit that point, you can either make it totally inscrutable and impossible to figure out

Speaker 1 or just make it clear and understandable to everybody else. Right? Those are your two main paths.

Speaker 1 I think that awkward middle of having people who are dissecting every piece of it via technology to get advantages over part of the community is like a weird, unhealthy middle that I don't think most games should have.

Speaker 1 So I will say that there is something cool about that first era souls thing where there's a bit of an ARG happening, you know, almost with lore online and people are like, oh my God, a video about this character's item description.

Speaker 1 And did you know that maybe they can survive?

Speaker 1 Like, there's a little bit of that where, like, there's a sense of like, I imagine people discovering things together and sharing lore about here's how you actually make Soler survive. You know,

Speaker 1 there's an excitement around that limited version of this, right?

Speaker 1 You know how who I believe is ultimately at fault for this problem?

Speaker 1 It's you and me. Uh-huh.
The the

Speaker 1 proliferation of easy video has destroyed the ability for people to just lie like crazy and say you can bring Aerith back to life.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 The mystery of whether or not the person telling you is telling the truth and you having to go figure it out is gone because you can just type in Dark Souls 3, how to get Henri wedding.

Speaker 1 And a million fucking videos will pop up to show you exactly how. There will never be a single person who fights the Iron Golem without Tarkis ever again.
Unlikely.

Speaker 1 Well, I actually never use him myself.

Speaker 1 But just like that,

Speaker 1 there will never be an honest fight against the Iron Golem ever. It's all just a Tarkis bit now, forever.

Speaker 1 Permanently.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.

Speaker 1 Good question. Part of the fucking problem.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But you know what, though? What's that? Gibbs. Yeah, Gibbs.
Gibbs. Gibbs.

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Speaker 1 I know what that means now.

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Speaker 1 Hold on. Is it? Gibbs.

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