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Terrence Howard | Club Random

April 27, 2025 1h 58m Episode 169 Explicit
On this episode, Bill hangs out with actor Terrence Howard for a free-wheeling chat that bounces between Hollywood and big ideas. Terrence speaks about clashing with studios over money, why Empire was both a blessing and a headache, and how an early brush with Richard Dreyfus taught him to fight for every scene. He and Bill riff on environmental junk in our food and air, and Terrence’s belief that music tuned to 432 Hz could reshape everything from space travel to human longevity. Along the way they trade Hendrix trivia, swap stories about celebrity parties and canceled careers, and agree that nailing a close-up still feels like magic. Get 3 months of premium wireless service for 15 bucks a month at https://www.mintmobile.com/random Go to ⁠https://www.skechers.com/clubrandom⁠ or use code Random for 20% off your first pair of Skechers Hands Free Slip-ins Go to https://www.ffrf.us/freedom or text "CLUB" to 511511 and become a member today Follow Club Random on IG: @ClubRandomPodcast Follow Bill on IG: @BillMaher Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: ⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom⁠ Watch Club Random on YouTube: ⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandomYouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm not dropping names.

I'm just about what I'm saying.

No, never drop names.

De Niro told me that.

Yeah. Yeah.
never drop names. De Niro told me that.
Yeah. The same thing was happening with Kennedy, and I could be wrong.
This is something I'm shaking over. I'm going to call the flag on this and say you are.
Ro, how are you? Such a pleasure, man. My pleasure.
Thank you for being here.

Yeah, dude.

Wow, you hold up well.

You look at yourself.

Look at that.

I don't know how you did that.

I'm like... Weed.

Yeah, well...

Weed.

Never got married.

Well, I did that four times.

I would hold a clean liquor.

Ooh, see, now I owe mine to just sheer defiance. They've wanted me to grow old and die so many times.
Who's they? The whole system. I've been a troublemaker forever.
Try not to be. But I disrupt shit.
But that's why we like you. I mean, that's why they like me.
You know, watch the song. If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping.
You ain't popping. I watched you.
I mean, that's been my whole month. Dude, I watched you with a friend of mine with X.
Oh, he was just here. I know.
Alvin? Yeah. I love him.
He was just here. He was the hardest person that I've ever had to kill.
Out of all the people that I've killed and doing this stuff. Sure.
The nature of him, he's such a sweet, home-giving kind of person. And man, they made me kill him on the show.
I was just like, I don't want to do that. Well, I mean, you're an actor.
You've got to do what the script says. I'm an emotional whore.
No, I love him. And I told him, when I was fired off of ABC, I needed a—I was on that show for nine years.
How did they fire you on a show called Politically Incorrect when you're doing exactly what you're supposed to do? People have been asking that question for 20 years. There's no good answer.
But, you know, the great tribute to him was that I needed to go off the air with something nine years in, and I used his couplet because at the time, he had that big record with Eminem. And the final line, like ashes to ashes, dust to dust, I might leave in a body bag, but never in cuffs.
And that's the way I felt about leaving ABC. And I love all these, it's so funny.

My friend said to me, rappers, they're all so tough

until you hear their real name.

Yeah, or until you see them at a puffy party.

Then they're not tough no more.

I'm surprised that the rap game is still alive after,

because the masculinity that the rappers are supposed to portray. Oh.
No. I'm not roofing myself.
It's just, it's a way to have it. Jing, I drink it.
It's a way to have diet soda without any chemicals. RFK recommends it.
What happened to him, man? Who?

RFK?

Oh, RFK. No, what happened to him? He was such, so against MMR vaccine, so against it.
And then he gets into the office, and I've seen him. I've met him.
Did they pull something out on him to make him change his stance? Well, you know, as Mario Cuomo used to say, you run for office in poetry, you govern in prose. You know, once you get in, you know, once you are the sheriff, things are a little different.
So now he's in office. First of all, just to get confirmed, he probably had to say a few things that he's not completely on the page with.
But, you know, he sat here, and we talked for a long time. And he said to me at one point, I said something about anti-vaxxer, and he said, that's what you think I am? And I said, yeah, I do.
And that's coming from someone who's been called an anti-vaxxer a lot. And it's all how you define this.
I don't think I'm an anti-vaxxer. I think vaccines are a great tool that we have.
I just don't want everyone you come up with. I want to be able to make that decision for myself based on my personal health profile.
He is a little more out there, I think, on lots of stuff. I mean, there's lots of stuff where I just can't go with him.
But in general, do I think what he is saying as far as environmental toxins? That was the advice I gave him when he sat here, because he had been known as an environmental lawyer his whole life. I said, you've got to connect these two things.
You're known as a great environmentalist. You're just saying that the pollution is in our bodies from other things.
It's not just what's in the air. It could be vaccines.
Not every vaccine, but who knows in combination with all the other things that are in our body, mercury and fungus and x-rays, how many x-rays have you had, electromagnetic energy, 50,000 chemicals we didn't have 50 years ago. We don't know what all these factors are, but when he says this is probably what's behind most of our health problems, that resonates with me.
That's what's different. About when I was a kid and the food was just, maybe it wasn't great, Wonder Bread, but most of it was just, it wasn't processed.
It was not as polluted as it all is now. But it has to be polluted now.
What do you mean? Good to see you. Good to see you, Brian.
What do you mean? Well, because... Has to own because the money? The entire process that they're working on is not to build humanity up.
I don't see it. It's more so to tear us down.
Because think about it. Who are we talking about? We're talking about...
I'm still talking about the government as a whole. Either Democrat or Republican? Either Democrat or Republican.
Uh-huh. Because if you go back to, like for me, when the vaccines first was coming out, and I was talking about not the COVID vaccine, just me dealing with my children about, am I going to the vaccines to give them in school? And I was like, no, I don't want to give them the MMR and all of that because when we were kids.
They don't need it. No.
And when we were kids, back in 1969 when I was born, and they gave me the shot, it was delivered with duck embryo DNA. Then in 1970, when they got the abortion clinics, they started using human DNA.
Now, the duck embryo DNA would not bond. It would deliver the vaccine.
It would deliver the little protein that was necessary, but it didn't have any match to your DNA, so it would be taken out of the body. But because they're using human DNA cells from the abortion clinics, those now bond into our cells and try to bond with it.
That's why we have all the psoriasis now. Did you see that much psoriasis back in the 80s? Back when I was a child, I didn't see it.
Look, I cannot endorse or refute what you just said because I don't know anything about that. I do know the course when they make a vaccine, they do have to put something that will be the delivery system.
It used to be, for sure, poisonous mercury, thomestimicerole. Yeah.
Right. Okay, so we know that the delivery system can be suspect.
I never heard this. I know they grow usually in eggs, right? So the fact that you're saying ducks.
They used to grow it in duck embryo, but now once they started getting all of the fetuses from the abortion clinics, they started using the DNA from them as a delivery system. And that's, our bodies don't like having some foreign thing inside.

Well, look, again, I can only speak on this. You seem to have read more in depth.
I had to. I had the kids.
Right, than I have. I just speak in general terms, and in general terms, I agree with that.
I feel like we are just marching toward this place where we accept more and more of this kind of environmental pollution even indoor pollution is a thing people die of indoor pollution it can be the formaldehyde in the fucking sofa yeah although the plastic everything is everything it's so much plastic refined oil that's what yes they've been trying to figure out okay we have all this waste from the— It's so much plastic. Refined oil.
That's what did it. They've been trying to figure out, okay, we have all this waste from the refineries.
What do we do with it? Well, in the early 1910s, 1920s, they called all of the chemists together. It was like, hey, how can we use this? And they end up making all of these things, and they turned a lot of our pills and medicine into carbon or methylene-based or oil-based from all the refineries.
It's everything. It's also a known fact that when they come up with a drug and it doesn't work on one thing, or sometimes because it's like it works too well, in other words, it kills you, they don't throw it away exactly because that's bad money after good, okay? What they do is they repurpose it.
Retroactive. They do that many times.
You know, it didn't work on cancer, but we got a whole stock room of it. No, I'm sure it's not quite like that, but it is suspicious to me.
Well, what made the cancer go away was the ivermectin, the antiparasitics, all of those things that they were saying out that you give to dogs, things of that nature, because cancer, I don't believe, and from looking at it, cancer isn't just some deformity that happens to a given cell. Cells have a fight against it, because what's funny, what I've noticed with the cancer cells, when my mother first died from colon cancer and I started working with the stand-up to cancer, and I went to a lot of the labs and I was talking with them, and one of the things that I saw with the cancer cells, it behaves exactly like an embryo.
It wraps itself in dopamine, and therefore dopamine is the fuel of the body, the gold of the body. So the body starts sending blood vessels to get to this dopamine.
That's the same thing that an embryo does. It wraps itself in dopamine, and so the mother's body sends all these blood vessels to feed it, and then it starts controlling the rest, and it keeps telling all the other at the end of every chromosome.
There's these telomeres. Telomeres.
Yes. Yes, I take something to repair them.
Nitric oxide? I don't know. They've got some.
You know, it could be nothing. I could be just wasting my time.
It's working. Look at you.
Well, maybe that's what it is, the telomeres. But the telomeres, right, I mean, as I understand it, as a silly layman, is just, yes, the sort of like the frayed end of the cell.
And, you know, of course, we keep replicating ourselves. So if you could repair that end, the next time it replicated itself, it wouldn't come out like worse because that's what aging is.
We are all slightly worse. But we should, before we go on, I guess I had to say, ivermectin does not cure cancer.
No. Okay.
But it has, but the A for ivermectin, when it was first started with the A, that A meant anti, and then, and mectin was worms. It kills worms.
And so the parasites associated with it, it's a retroactive drug that's being used. The fact that it was demonized by the left is one of the things that I would say I could come up with a larger list of things that, you know, when people are like, you know, why aren't you just all on our team? Because your team does some shitty stuff, too.
Not nearly as much as the right. But you do some shitty stuff, too.
And pretending that ivermectin was somehow evil. It wasn't evil.
It won the Nobel Prize in 2015. It's they say it's cured probably more people except penicillin.
Okay. Like, was it crazy to think it could work on COVID? And look, the truth is probably in the middle somewhere, which is that for some people, yes, it probably has properties that mix because again, we're all individuals.
This one size fits all medical treatment bugs me. So could it work for, yeah.
I've certainly heard from people anecdotally. They call it in Africa, they call it Sunday morning medicine.
Because everybody on Sunday would pop it again, would pop it again. But it has such a terrible effect on the liver, it still tears down the liver.
Most medicines do. So does aspirin.
Oil of oregano. What do you do when you get a cold? Boy, does that hurt your liver? No.
No, right. Oil of oregano is anti-candid, anti-it.
Yeah. When I'm feeling a cold, now this is not how I was when I was young and didn't know, but at a certain point, I got hip to some of the more natural cures.
And yeah, when I start to get a cold, I don't take Tamiflu and that pharmaceutical shit. Oil of oregano.
Niels Med, do you put it in the Niels Med?

Chlorophyll.

Oh, you do that.

Raw garlic.

Raw garlic.

You know, I'm not talking about a garlic pill.

I'm talking about you take the garlic.

And chew it.

Well, I can't do that, but I can ground it up and throw it down my throat like a pill.

Put some cranberry juice right next to it.

No, I'm telling you, the garlic that's burning, the bitterness of that cranberry cuts it,

cuts it right away, and you'll still feel bitter.

We'll be back with cooking with Terrence and Bill. I want to be like you.
I want to be on a cooking show with you. No, I'm about, my wife does all the cooking.
I don't cook no more. I used to cook.
Really? But she, it's like when Jimi Hendrix, when Eric Clapton supposedly saw Jimi Hendrix playing,

and he took his guitar and he put it on the stage.

I'm sure he did, yeah.

When I saw my wife cook, I stopped cooking.

And I haven't cooked in 12 years because, I mean, she's, you don't mean her, she's perfect.

She's not my wife, my ex-wife, but she's my wife. We got divorced two years into marriage because they were coming after her money.
Oh, I see. But you're together but not formally married.
We're soul connected. Really? Yeah.
And you were married. We were married.
But then you had such a bad fight, it wound up in a divorce. No.
Oh, no, it was just for money. It was money.
Right. My ex-wives were coming after IRS did a six-year investigation on me for no reason.
For no reason, I thought. But it was right after I started filing the patents.
And then after doing the six-year thorough investigation, making sure that I was kicked out of all the banking, you know, all of the huge banks all sent me back my money. And I was like, what is this about? And at the end of six years, you know what they said? They was like, well, you know, we haven't got everything we want, but we could continue this.
Or we could, if you plead guilty to a fraud misdemeanor, we'll let everything go. I was like, no, let's take this to court.
Let's put this in front of a jury of my peers and let's see how you behave with me. Then they walked away and then they brought something back later.
But it was all because of challenging the status quo in the way that I have. I mean, I'm going to show you something.
But it feels good, doesn't it? It feels freaking great. I got suspended 15 times every year, 15 times a year, all through elementary, got expelled four times, always for insubordination.
Always for insubordination because I would ask the question, why? Why? Why is this? What? And they would sit up and say, because. And it's like, no, don't.
But you know, you can't have both things because you kind of are both things. You can't have an easy life if you also are special.
You know what I mean? I mean, you're a very charismatic guy. You got tons of talent.
I mean, you look great. I mean, like, your whole life.
It's hard for you to stay out of trouble because you're the kind of guy, I mean, chicks must be on you like ants to a melting Hershey bar. I mean, seriously.
They used to, but the funny thing, I never slept with any of the girls in Hollywood. Oh, come on.
I swear. I dated Naomi.
I've dated a ton of people, and they were all sit up, Marga Gay's daughter. They were all sit up and say, because I was Jehovah's Witness at the time.
So I would go out with them, but I didn't want, you know, I would lay down with them. That is, I mean.
And that's 30 years into the business. Because my grandmother, Minnie Gentry, told me, you don't shit where you eat.
Look, I have so much to say about that. But I can't bury the lead.
No, I have. I can't bury the lead.
Religion is stupid and makes people do stupid things. That's the lead story for that one.
I passed up on a lot of stuff. Give up great pussy because, I don't know, Jehovah's watching is just, I can't.
I can't go there with you. It was his angels watching.
But you're over that? No, and I had a particular taste. I mean, I'm over the religion stuff.
But there was something particular I was looking for in the spirit of a woman. I didn't care.
That's different. The beauty was great.
Okay. But it's like, I'm not just trying to.
Well, that's profound, and that's deep. But if it's because of God, I can't quite respect that.
But if it's because you really don't want to have sex until you feel something, that I respect a lot.

No, and it was not feeling love.

It's not feeling love.

No, but something, look.

It's got to be a cosmic connection.

There's got to be something bigger that's like, this has to happen.

Because there's so much trouble that you get in from it.

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The biggest change I would

say in my life, decade to decade, is that in the earlier decades of adulthood, I gave no

consideration to basically what a very good-looking woman was like. I mean, I couldn't steal myself

to whatever she was if she was very good-looking and I wanted to have sexual intercourse with it. At a certain point, that goes away and they at least have to be someone who you also would want to have lunch with or, you know, can talk to before the sex happens, you know, this kind of thing.
That's not quite spiritual, but to me it was progress. Now, maybe someday I'll have to be like, well, she's got to be on the same page with God as me.
There was always some silent conversation, like my wife Mira, my one. I met her on October 3rd, 2013.
We got married October 26th, 2013. Because when she came in, three weeks later, this is the one that I've been with for 12 years.
When she came in, I literally, that whole thunderstruck that you talk about, we were having a conversation eye to eye without speaking. And she was sitting with another gentleman at a table having lunch.
And she made it clear without saying a word to me that I knew eternity. I knew I'd been around for thousands of lifetimes because when I saw her, the moment I saw her, everything, I realized I'd been looking for her for a thousand lifetimes and didn't even know.
And that's the connection that it was and best sex in the world. It was everything that I could imagine.
And then, and at the time, I had just been accused of domestic violence from my wife, Michelle. I was done with everything.
I mean, I was kicked out of Hollywood for the most part. I was canceled.
Right. I owed $500,000 from my patent attorney, $400,000 to my divorce attorney.
She went and covered everything. But it was that connection that we had.

She, I fucked you, then had money.

She, yes.

I see what you're saying.

And she cooks like crazy.

And a cook.

And stood next to me.

This beautiful woman stood next to me when everybody was calling me a wife beater

and made it possible for me to do the job on Empire. Has she got a sister? Yes, she does.
Well, I'm so happy that you're happy. I mean, that's great that you've found the one.
I mean, that's what everybody's looking for in the big Easter egg hunt of life, to find that egg in the grass, you know, just the right one. And she didn't look at me crazy when I first started talking about one times one equal two.
And I wasn't talking about one times one doesn't equal one. Oh, I read about that.
In linear math, you still can use the one times one equaling one for things laid out. But if you're trying to measure this room or measure some space, but if you're talking about fluid flow gas flow water flow all of that has to be measured through volumetrically so that's where the i've read i mean i've read your shit on this and then i know neil degrasse tyson tried to shit on this well he sure did yeah but now what does he say i don't know i'm i just i don't even know the particulars that much.
I just know there was a feud a little bit. I gave him my stuff.
But all I have to say is I don't know the specifics. I know what you're saying is either way smarter than I am or way dumber.
No. I don't know which one it is.
You never looked at it like an action times an action not having a reaction. For one times one to equal one.
And that's what I asked Eric Weinstein on the show. I was like, show me one place in natural phenomenon where an action times an action doesn't have a reaction.
And I will say one times one equals one. Oh, I see.
Yeah. Well, but one plus one equals two.
Mm-hmm. And what is multiplication but exaggerated addition? Does this have anything to do with October 3rd? No.
Oh, okay. No.
No. You know what I'm saying.
No, but like people think numbers. I used to think that.
I got to admit, there was 20 years of my younger life when I was like, I paid a lot of attention to like numbers, like dates, and, you know, saw some like meaning in that. I'm not.
I still do. Maybe I got off the train too early.
No, you didn't get off the train because you're still drawn to it. You still see 1111 on the clock and you stop for a moment.
You still see 1234 and you're like, hey, something about it grabs you. Even when I see nine, anytime I see nine.

Yeah, you know what?

I went and tried to cut it on my head, and they shaved it, and there was a 666. Is that significant? Yeah, because it's not the devil's number.
Oh, what is it? Is it a 310? What they were trying to do. No, they were chasing you from the truth.
because 666

6 times 6 times 6

ends up being

216. 216 is the key of C, or key of A.
432, you double that. Wait, wait.
216 is the what? 666. If you do 6 times 6.
Yeah, yeah, I got that part. 6 times six is 36.
I get it. 216.
216.

Is the what?

Is the key of A.

What does that mean, the key of A?

The key of A, the tone of A.

What is it?

The tone of A.

Tones have number?

Yes, the frequency of it, 432.

Oh, I see.

432 hertz.

Instead of them doing 440 hertz.

Yeah, I've seen that 432 hertz. Once the Beatles.
433 kills you. Well, the Beatles went to, Jimi Hendrix used to spend every day, spend hours trying to tune his guitar at 432.
That's why people would be so pissed off at him. It's like, just tune the damn thing regular.
No, he needed it at 432. When the Beatles went to India, they tuned their instruments when they got back all to 432 and remastered all of their stuff because 432 is the common factor of the universal tone.
That's the sound of our earth. The sun is 864,000 compared to the Earth with its 432.

The moon is at 216.

All of these numbers tie into astronomical things. So they're important.
Okay. So when the Beatles got back from India, they remastered all their records? They remastered their records.
They personally went into the studio and did that? But from what, if you go to a site there's a site called um 432 sacred music of the spheres on google and they'll have a heartbeat there and it goes through this entire system of what jimmy hendrix did why 43 432 is important what it means what did the beatles do with it and all the other individuals like Prince turned his stuff to 432.

Do you know the connection the Beatles had with Jimi Hendrix?

No.

Sergeant Pepper, that album, you know it, you love it, you hate it, you...

I love that album.

Okay, good.

Sergeant Pepper.

Yeah, it's great.

The Walrus.

No, that's not...

That's not on... What is that? That's the Yellow Sub Walrus.
No, that's not on that.

What is that?

That's a yellow submarine. No, that's Magical Mystery Tour.
But listen. I've been debunked.
Yeah. On the Beatles, yes.
So Sergeant Pepper came out, like I think, in June of 1967, and Jimi Hendrix was in London. And the day the album came out, he learned the title song and played it that night with Paul McCartney in the audience at a club he was playing at.
It came out that day, and he played it that night. That's a motherfucker, huh? they're running three chords, four chords shuffle.
It's not the hardest thing to do. Not when you're, but to go and stylize on it.
I wouldn't say all the Beatles songs were just three chord shuffles. That's not true.
No, but back then, back then, most of their pop stuff that they were jumping out with had that three four chord shuffle and they'll slightly make a change not later not the later stuff and this is the beginning of their later period oh you're talking i thought you're talking about at the very beginning of their stuff when they're no no this is no they had their early sound which you're right was more simple i have way less of that like in my ip my iPod because some of it is just, first of all, the lyrics are for 12-year-olds in 1966.

This is not interesting stuff to me.

But the songs have great energy, and some of them are just timeless, and they're awesome.

But they really started to grow when they got off the road.

Revolver is 1966. That's like Eleanor Rigby.
Sergeant Pepper is the next year. Then comes the Magical Mystery Tour with your Warwick song.
Then the White Album. Then Abbey Road.
Then Let It Be. Or actually Let It Be, then Abbey Road.
So that's the second half of their career, it was way beyond three-chord shuffles.

That's why they were so great in that era.

Well, one of the things that the Beatles did in their change,

like my favorite song from them when I was a child,

the first time I knew the Beatles, was that song Help.

Yeah.

I need some, but I was eight years old,

living on Gainsley Boulevard between Sunset and Hollywood. I had no money.
Are you aware? Kingsley Boulevard. No, I got it.
That's where you live? Are you about to have a shot? Yeah, on Kingsley. I used to live there, had no money.
You know, mother was doing everything she could. Then half the time, I would spend the summers and the holidays in New York at Manhattan Plaza.

With who?

My grandmother.

Your grandmother.

Nanny Gentry lived in Manhattan Plaza.

And that's where Giancarlo Esposito, he was my coach.

He was the first person.

Manhattan Plaza.

We're all like the actors.

Yes.

Right?

Yes.

It was like rent subsidized for artists.

Artists.

because remember they had half these artists would

Thank you. It was like rent subsidized for artists.
Because remember, half these artists would be on Broadway, but they couldn't get down there. So there was those couple blocks.
I know a comic who lived in that building because he got that dispensation. He still has it? Does he still have the plan? No, he's very rich now.
No, he doesn't need it now. But that's where you're.
Larry David. That's it.
Larry David. You're right.
Because he was. Yeah, you're right.
I used to hang out. I used to run into his apartment and hang out with him.
And then I hadn't seen him for like 30 years. Yes.
Holy fuck. Because then the guy that Kenny Kramer, the real Kenny Kramer.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I used to date his daughter, Melanie. See, I'm telling you, when you look like you, Taryn, you're just going to attract.
You were 16. I know, but it's just an ongoing thing that's going to happen.
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But it's so good that you're in such a happy place because like, you know, with your woman, because, you know, that is, you know, when you don't have that, you're just always thinking about getting it. I'll just put it that way.
And it's a, yeah, it can be a lot when that's what you're always, every time you leave the house. Yeah, but see, you have the hope right now.
You could bump into someone gorgeous that yeah but then you've got

to see do they want you for your money or do they want you for it's it's it's so easy um i mean first of all that's not even my situation i'm super happy the way i am you don't dream of falling in low i am in low oh you killed it i did but uh but uh like i just remember younger years there was not a time when i left the house where it wasn't on my mind i'm talking about my 20s you know maybe the 30s sometimes if i wasn't with somebody and like it's just exhausting like i'm going the mall. Does this belt look good? That's going to make a difference between you meeting somebody at the mall and then getting laid and living happily ever after.
It's all in the belt. If you have your belt on and you have six inches of that belt hanging off of you, everybody's primal.
We're still 98.7% simian. There's only 1.3% differentiation between us and them.
And that 1.3% we call human, and we have to abide by that. But 98.7% of us is still trying to be that gorilla ape.

That's who we are.

We are. So how are they locking people up for killing someone that's sleeping with their wife when 98% of them is like what you can't do that to the chimpanzees.
All males fight over women in every species. I know.
But again, it's going to be harder in your life because married chicks are still going to look at you and go... On their past.
Yes, correct. On their past.
And you too. You still get it, so...
Oh, please, please. This is not a fair fight.
No, because see me, they see the genetic coincidence of symmetry. You know what? I'm happy with my lot in life because if you look like you, it is more trouble too.
Like, I don't have a lot of trouble, you know? I'm pretty clean. No marriages, no convictions, never caught my toe caught in the trap.
It doesn't mean I haven't been happy. Not always, but, you know, it's just, yeah.
I mean, it can be kind of a burden being too popular. Yeah.
My whole goal now is to disappear from that side of it because I kept doing the acting, and I kept thinking, one day this is going to happen. Well, you're not stopping, are you? I got to, dude.
Acting? I got to. I got to.
No, you don't. I got to.
That's a bad idea. I've tried to go in and do it.
May I just say as a friend who I don't know you well, but I like you already, I always liked you. You were just that guy, that leading man guy who was like, well, I could never be that, but he's just so cool.
I can't be jealous of it. I just was born different.
But if if i if i could i'd be like that that's the kind of guy if i was going to be that kind of guy but like oh i forgot well no because we were talking about weather stopping i had a conversation oh yeah but so i just think you should not stop i think you're good at it we want to see you the audience is still there you're just in the you still look good and you're at the prime of like you've acted long enough like who are the best actors in the world there are always people like in their 50s and 60s they just act on a whole different level we're not acting you know they finally like it becomes just so natural you start hiding from the camera don't don't deprive us of that i'm in the chitlin circuit now they stuck I sued Fox. What does that mean? The Chitlin circuit.
Oh, I know what it really is, but what's it for you? That's no studio movies. No big television stuff.
Everything is on the outskirts. Why? Because you don't fuck with the mouse.
I fucked with the mouse. You don't.
I sued the mouse. I sued Fox.
I sued. And I'm suing CAA right now.
But it's about my money. Somebody take $300 million from you.
You're like, dude. You know what? You got to go for it.
I know. But if you have this reputation as run around sue.
Not at first. Okay.
Not at first. It's one thing to fight with them or name call.
Once you start with the suing, they kind of take it personally. And it gets too close to the money.
But it's still not insurmountable. What this country loves more than anything else is a redemption story.
There has to be every script, whether it's an action movie or a romantic comedy. There has to be, you know, like...
It can't just be this. This is boring.
You know, the hero rises and then shit happens or and then they break up and like, you lied to me. It's always some contrived thing in the romantic comedies.
And then, you know, he chases her back to the airport or whatever. The world doesn't blow up.
And, you know, you have to have that. So yeah, I get where you are, but you know, it's going to go to the other place because it just, it does.
That's the story America loves. And they just like you, you know, when they like you, they just, they find a way

to forgive. I mean, Charlie Sheen,

I can pick on him, but like

this guy has done so much shit

that's worse than anybody else.

And he's still just, oh, that's...

Because he's got a great smile.

Gregarious.

He's like

Cuba Gooding Jr.

No matter what Cuba is going

through, you'll see him out at a club

smiling,

He's a Cuba Gooding Jr. No matter what Cuba is going through, you'll see him out at a club, smiling, living life.
Nothing's bothering him. Nothing's bothering him.
He never lets it get to him. And me and him talk all the time because people always confuse him for me and me for him.
And so anytime somebody will ask him for an autograph and say, Terrence, can you give me an autograph? He'll call me on the phone and be like, Terrence, this guy wants an autograph. Should I give him one? Should I give him something? So we talk.
But I thought with the stuff he went through that he would just go away. And it's like, no.
No, he's made of something stronger than that. He's, you know, a piece of coal is, a diamond is just a piece of coal that did well under pressure.
All of them don't do well under pressure. He's done well.
You've done well under pressure. They've tried to kick us out.
I'm not going anywhere, so you kicked me out of that side. Well, now let's talk about the science.
Let's walk through that for a little bit. Let's walk through the math.
Let's walk through your geometry. Let's walk through your fundamentals.

What did Cuba do?

I don't remember.

I remember he was in trouble.

Was it real?

It can't be that real because they accused him of fondling or touching someone at a bar.

Oh, yeah.

At a bar.

And then they accused him of touching some dude in Puffy's thing.

I'm like, dude, that's not Cuba.

He wouldn't, I can't imagine Cuba touching some man.

No.

A man?

A man, yeah.

What is it, you know, what is it with all the man-on-man action that I'm learning about?

I mean, like with the Puffy parties.

Like, the last thing I ever thought that went on there was gay stuff.

Not that gay stuff was wrong. It's wonderful.
I just did not think that's what Puffy was doing. Yeah, well, I didn't think it either.
And even when my assistant said that stuff, I still was, like, joking it off. And it wasn't until later on that I heard other things from people that worked from him.
You know, you remember that back in the times of slavery, they had a thing called breaking the buck, where they would take, not to go in a bad place, but this is how I see what's happening, the parallels with what's happening, correlates what's happening in the business. If they, back in the times of slavery, if they had like some 12-year-old slave that was just full of himself and confident and, you know, wasn't listening, they would tie him to a log or a barrel.
And a bunch of the overseers would rape him. To where when he walked around with the slaves now, he didn't have the confidence.
Sure. His whole, he was broken.
And it was called breaking the buck. Wow.
And that's still taking place. And so to hear that people in the industry are still making young rappers who have fought the worst of circumstances, being disenfranchised, being discounted, and then they finally like, I'm going to put it into the music.
I'm going to do it in the music. I'm going to get myself together, and they go and see someone, and they tell them, okay, yeah, you can have a deal.
Perform fellatio on me, and you get your deal. That was what I heard while I was on Empire about some of the people in the business.
And Petey Pablo, you remember Petey Pablo? I know who that is. Petey Pablo, talented writer, singer, him and young Buck wrote a song called Ho is Home.
And in that song, back in 19, about 2011 or 29 or something, because he called out all of the homosexuality taking place at those parties and those people, he was kicked out of the music business. No radio station would play his stuff.
So you look for Petey Pablo, he's not around anymore. But that song, Ho It's Own, they did not kill him.
They went all in on it. Look, this is a country of snitches and bitches.
And when they want to just disappear you, not to get off on a tangent about how Trump is literally doing that to people now. I was all in his corner.
And that right there, that hit me. I was like, dude, you can't do that to somebody's family.
No, you cannot. You cannot do that.
Bring them home. Well, you just can't send American citizens or even— Out of the country.
Right, to a prison and not just a prison, a gulag. But what I was going to say is the snitches and bitches characterization of this nation in this psychological moment in our life, I think, sometimes it seems like it's all it is.
That everybody just wants to fight all the time. And they will just find something to bitch about and hate.
And if they can take any one or two pieces of information and plausibly put it together in a way that will cancel you, they will do it. They don't care about the truth.
They care about a scalp on their wall that they can get somebody. And it happens from the left and it happens from the right.
And they just look for that moment. So I feel like I've been swimming in a sea of sharks for 32 years is how long I've been on between the two shows.

And every day, I feel like I'm swimming among the sharks. And so far, they haven't pulled me down.
I've been nipped a couple times. And yours? Yes, I have too.
But look, I'm not going to lie. After the first cancellation, if you went into my office, you were like, when are you going to start to decorate it? I'm like, I don't decorate my office because I feel like any minute I might have to bug out of it.
It could happen overnight where literally, you know what? Don't worry about getting any shit from my office. I didn't keep anything there.
I never thought it was permanent to begin with. That's not a bad attitude to have.
How many times you've been fired in your career? Well. All around, whether clubs or whatever.
Oh, clubs. How many times have you been? In the early days, not just clubs, but berated as to how bad you were as a comedian and how much you made the paying customers leave.

I've had that lecture.

I was once, I did a gig in Cleveland in like 1980.

I was too early in the business, like one year,

to even be doing a headliner gig.

It was so terrible.

And the next day, and I got that lecture after the show,

like you not only are terrible, but you made people leave and probably not like this place in the future. And then the next day I got snowed in for 12 hours.
I sat at the airport and I felt like everybody in the airport was looking like, oh, there's that asshole. What did you do that night that you think did it?

I would do jokes.

I mean, first of all, I did not have enough of material, enough of an act to do an hour. And when it didn't go over, I reacted badly.
Instead of reacting humbly, I would like lash out at the audience. It was all so emotional.
You didn't like my joke. Well, fuck you.
I guess it's you. You're bad, not me.
And that's what a young 24-year-old comic does to really fuck up a night for everybody. I've been fired at least eight times off of jobs.
And then I look at actors that's never been fired. And I'm like, wow, you've never taken a chance.
And you've never stood your ground. They're the first ones to say, oh, I'll do it.
I can do it. The first thing I ever saw you in was Mr.
Holland's anus. Mr.
Holland's anus? Opus? Well, I saw the porn version. No.

Oh, good.

I got him to cough laugh.

Oh, no.

I was thinking about the greenery, man. No, I'm kidding.

The greenery, man.

Yeah, Mr. Holland's opus.

Opus.

Yeah, I was so green at that moment.

I was 25.

Yeah, but I saw you.

I remember I saw Angelina Jolie the first time in this TV movie about George Wallace,

the Southern racist governor, and his wife. He married Miss Alabama.
And then she became the governor when he was term limited or something. And Angelina Jolie played that part.
And I said, the first time, I'd never seen her before. And I said, that's going to be a star.
And I said the same thing about you and Mr. Holland's Anus.
Yeah, I was so... But you can just tell.
Somebody just is... I wasn't in Mr.
Holland's Anus, though. I was in Mr.
Holland's Opinus. Well, that's not what I've heard.
But Richard Dreyfuss taught me the best lesson in that thing, and I think it really made my career, because we were doing this scene, and we're basically sitting across from each other like this, and I'm having the drumsticks, and I'm trying to pound it, and he's supposed to reach over and grab the drums in the middle of it, and so I'm trying to lean over so he don't have to reach, and he said, cut, stop, stop. Don't you ever do that shit again.
And I was like, what? And he said, don't you ever let me take a scene from you. I like you, but I will not let you take a frame from me.
And don't you let me take a frame from you. You fight for it to the death.
only one person is going to walk away with this frame. So don't make it easy for me.
That's what he was saying. And from that moment onward, every ring I got into, when I go on the floor, I want to decimate the person I'm with, not in the fact of make them look bad, but I want them to not

need their lines. I want you to be so caught up in what we're doing that you don't even need to say what you have to say.
It's working on me right now. I'm a fucking prank.
You're getting I don't need a second take on that one.

That is riveting shit.

He taught me that on that one. That is riveting shit.

He taught me that on that movie, and it changed the course of my career.

Wow.

Well, Richard Dreyfuss has been here, too.

Oh, my God.

Not in that position.

He's been here.

Oh, yeah.

He's gone through it.

Well, no, he just took a bicotent that day and was, like, horizontal in the chair. And it's, I mean, a lot of people have Googled it.
But, look, I like him so much. But isn't that what you're supposed to do here? I think so.
I'm waiting for you to pull out the joint. I mean, I done smoked up with, I smoked with, with everyone.
You know what? People give me bad information and people protect people. And you're not the first one here who I was told, like, don't tempt them.
And I'm like, you're with me. I'm a tempter.
I'm a bad employee. We're at Club Random.
This is known to be a place. This is a man card moment.
Like smoking with Snoop. Like I still want to smoke with Willie.
I still haven't done that. Hurry.
But with Woody Harrelson. Oh, I can arrange that.
No, that's my boy. That's what Exhibit said.
Yeah. I will so set that up.
He owes me a favor for like 100. But no, really, I will so set that up.
And that'll be fun. Okay.
So this is homegrown and good and pure. In that yard? In that huge yard you got out there yeah yeah I don't live here on the farm I live next door I know but this is really nice oh I know I love California you love California you know molecule for molecule the THC in marijuana is 10,000 times stronger than alcohol and its ability to produce a mild intoxication.

You are.

It's like Cliff Clavin.

You're like full of information.

Give me a beer.

You remember Cliff Clavin? I know, but cheers. But they also say it's like so much smaller than it was back in the day.
Stronger. Yeah, it is.
Don't you think? Well, because of hydroponics and everything that they're able to do with it. Well, I just think when money gets involved, they will find a way to manipulate seeds.
They do it with our food supply is shit because there used to be so many different kinds of wheat. But because of, I can't even explain it, but the economics, and it was more economical.
And that's where Monostat came in

and they're just keeping the same.

Monsanto?

Monsanto.

Yes.

Monostat.

Because you're stoned now.

No, that's what it was.

I'm thinking of a yeast infection.

What?

Monostat.

They use it for a yeast infection.

I don't know how I made the connection there,

but I told you this.

Because when I was about to do a film called Awake

with Harvey, Harvey Weinstein did this for me.

Harvey, he did some beautiful shit.

Of course.

As a producer.

My quote was like $60,000 for a movie.

And Harvey was like,

and I was about to go and negotiate for Iron Man.

And Harvey was like, no, no, no, no.

He was like, I'm going to offer you

Thank you. And Harvey was like, and I was about to go and negotiate for Iron Man.
And Harvey was like, no, no, no, no. He was like, I'm going to offer you a picture for $3.5 million.
You're going to decline that offer in writing. And that's going to be your quote for Marvel.
And he did that for me. I don't understand.
He offered me a film. I understand that part.
But the part about declining, because that would raise your quote? No, because he didn't want to have to pay me $3.5 million. Yeah.
He wanted me to decline it. Yes.
Once I turned down the offer, now I've been offered three and a half million dollars and I turned that down so that's now my quote. So you were able to take, my agent was able to take that paper and take it to Marvel and say this is what it's supposed to.
So he helped. He helped.
He helped for no other reason. No other reason.
He was just good people. Hitler was a vegetarian.
Everybody's got something about them. Everybody's good for something.
Everybody's good for something. When I see everybody coming after him, I knew what the business was.
The night I was nominated for an Oscar an Oscar I was having... Oh yeah, Hustle and Flow.
Yeah, I was having playing poker. That must be a shit in your pants night with the suit and like you gotta...
Who did you bring? I brought my mom. See, that's a safe choice.
I brought my mom. Yeah.
Unless you're fucking her. It's a very...
No, no. This ain't Japanese porn.

This ain't Japanese porn.

But we had my... Damn, that just fucked me up.

I told you I'm...

You think I'm going to give Terrence Howard bad...

Don't?

No.

No.

Well...

Your mom.

No, no.

But that night I'm at Norby... Waltersby walters party well house playing poker okay and andy andy hoffman no andy andy the the heavyset one uh you know Andy Rooney.
No, Andy. Andy.
I sat a little far from each other.

Round face, very round. Andy Richter? No, I know Andy Richter.
Oh, that was so close. Andy.
No, you weren't. I really thought I had it on that one.
I really thought I had it on that one. But we're sitting there playing cards, and I'm being facet I'm, I'm being, you know, facetious with him.

With, with, um, God, now that's why I stopped smoking pot.

It makes you forget everything.

No, I'm sitting there with, uh, Andy Richter.

Yeah, with Andy, not, it wasn't Andy Richter.

I'm sitting there with Ed, who's the guy that played Santa Claus? Ed Asner. Ed Asner.
I'm sitting there with Ed. I love this game show.
I love him. Good, good.
I'm sitting there playing poker with him. Ed Asner.
Andy to be named later. And I said to him.
Taron Tower. Groni Wolk.
Yes, yes. I said to him, I was like, you know, they just had a cake for me for getting nominated.
That was the night I got nominated. That's nice.
And I said to Ed, being facetious, I was like, what's the best advice you can give a young actor so that I can be successful in this business? And he said, work on your blowjob, kid. Who said that? Ed Asner.
Oh, Ed Asner. He said, work on your blowjob, kid.
Well, he was joking. No, I know he was joking.
I know he was joking. That's funny.
And I took it like what that meant to me was this business is about pleasing everyone around you. You have to please everybody else.
It's not pleasing yourself. And then you get set up in a position to get pleased.

That's how I took it.

Do everything you can to take care of everybody else's needs. Make sure the producer, the director, and the writer have all the things that they need.
I didn't take it in a sexual way. But then after all of this other stuff came around, I'm looking at it like what he was saying was a lot of people got ahead in the business by giving head in the business.
Well, of course. I mean, look, it's way better than it used to be.
I mean, it used to be like they didn't even try to hide it. No.
You know, Marilyn Monroe, who I famously don't think is very attractive,

and I don't want to go into that, but she never did it for me.

But I know she was like the biggest boner in the world.

But, I mean, she was like used.

Like you cannot believe how they just use people in this

without any apology or anybody caring.

Did you see that movie they just did with her?

Yes.

And pushed her on. She came in to read the script.
Yes. And then Blowing Kennedy.
Yeah, wow. That was a hard scene to watch.
I'm just like, dude, this is, all of that added to what Ed Asner said, what my assistant said about that other situation. I'm just like, dude, is this it? The Blowing Kennedy scene was so disturbing because kennedy was always a hero in my household okay me too okay so and look we don't know if it's true i first it's a movie okay you made that up you weren't there in the room when marilyn was blowing him he i'm sure she was blowing him but the way they presented was he was so unfeeling.
He's just lying in bed, and he's on the phone.

He never gets off the phone.

Yes, he's sitting over here talking, not even looking at him.

The biggest movie star in the world is blowing him, and he's on the phone.

And the CIA or Secret Service is standing right there next to him.

It's just so demeaning to her, and it's just hard to watch. That's the business.
And that's why Bobby Kennedy is crazy. Okay, no.
But, you know, we just don't know that it happened that way. It's that you have such power as a filmmaker, and you are playing with fire because you are presenting images that people cannot forget, and in a part of their mind, you know, think maybe is true.
And it is possible that Kennedy was that callous. But they just don't know.
I mean, you look at his father and the choices that his father made. And the position that he was always in as the son that wasn't supposed to be there, his older brother was supposed to be there, the sicknesses, all of that, the medication.
What kind of effect did that medication have on him? What kind of painkillers was this man on being pushed into that field? And he knew he was going to die.

Okay, yeah.

Maybe. He was not physically well, even without getting shot in the head.
That didn't help. No, but remember, did you hear what I heard about what got him killed? Oh, I think we all know generally what got him killed, but what's your theory? The night before he had signed an executive order ordering that the Federal Reserve would no longer be printing the dollars, that the U.S.
government will now print the dollars. The Federal Reserve is the U.S.
government. The Federal Reserve is a separate entity.
Of the U.S. government.
But it's a separate thing. It has less congressional control, correct, than cabinet positions or any other department.
Yes. That's for a good reason.
You don't want to politicize. Funny enough, Trump's doing that now.
No, what I heard and what I've researched and found, it was comparable to what happened to Abraham Lincoln. He wanted to do the same thing, start printing money himself instead of having a Federal Reserve, because this was the problem with the Fed.
If the Fed print, say Congress needs $20 billion, the Fed's print, okay, they get the order, they print up the $20 billion. They never print up the interest because there's interest on that $20 billion that they just did.
They've never printed up enough money to pay the interest, so they were always going to be in debt. So I heard that Lincoln, and I would love to find it, that Lincoln had ordered that the Federal Reserve wouldn't be printing money or whatever, and he was going to print it himself, and the same thing was happening with Kennedy, and I could be wrong.
This is something I'm shaking. I'm going to call the flag on this and say you are.
Because I'm going to go out on a limb and say, that may be something Lincoln did, but he did other more controversial things. Yeah, he did.
Okay, okay. But I'm saying, but that moment.
I can't remember the one thing, but there was something he did that was super controversial at the time. Oh, yes.
Freeing the slaves. Freeing the slaves.
That's what it is. I think that's what got him killed.
But freeing the slaves, freeing the slaves i think that's what got him but freeing the slaves freeing the slaves then i don't think that that did it if if what i'm saying is true and somebody can can look that up but if so well money money's in a close contest with race because the thing that really unites to me lincoln and kennedy who were killed almost exactly 100 years apart, elected 1860, elected 1960, is that Kennedy was the person who changed the solid South. It used to be called the solid South, meant solid Democrat to solid Republican.
That never happened in American history before. An entire region switched parties.
Why? Because until Kennedy, civil rights was not something the Democrats cared about. In fact, they were on the wrong side of it.
After Kennedy, they were on the right side of it. That's why he got shot.
Same reason why Lincoln got shot. But do you think the Democrats are really in it from the heart, or is it just so that they can curry the black vote? Look, when you send troops, federal troops, to guard black people so that they can go to college, go to school.
Kennedy. Kennedy was in it.
That's what got him shot. It's like, how dare you come down to our part of the country where we're still really living in Jim Crow, post-slavery but not certainly America, and you come in here with the federal troops and your brother, Bobby Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy's father, who was like really adamant about this stuff, that changed an entire way the white electorate in those states voted.
And they really haven't voted for Democrats since. That's political guts.
And that's why he got shot, I think, more than anything. He also wanted to get out of Vietnam, maybe.
Lots of stuff that fought the status quo. And also, remember the Bay of Pigs? Yeah.
When he first got into office, he let the CIA have this plan to invade Cuba and take it back. And it didn't go well.
And, you know, he then fired— That's what pushed Cuba to going and incurring favor with the Russians. Because they needed to have some kind of support from him at the end of the day.
Well, they were doing that before. No, they really tied the hand.
Well, that's what the, I don't know, the Cuban Missile Crisis was about, the fact that Russia was sending missiles to Cuba. So Castro took over in 1959.
Russia was, like, thrilled. We invaded in 61 when Kennedy was just newly in office and the plan was already in the works.
And so he didn't stop it. You know, he didn't want to, he knew that the CIA would revolt.
They had this plan in the works. We're going to go invade Cuba.
We're going to use Cubans going to be great. And it wasn't.
And they blame him for not giving the air cover that would have helped the invasion, but they were not going to overtake Castro. They just weren't.
It was a fool's errand. And he then six months later fired the head of the CIA.
So they were out to get him. And Bobby Kennedy was going after the mafia, the mafia.
It was like an Agatha Christie novel. They pissed off everybody who's good at killing you.
The mafia. Is academia good at killing folks? Why? Because they're coming after me pretty hard.
Academia? Academia. You talking about elite colleges? Yeah, do they kill folks? Well, I never have a good word for elite colleges, so tell me your story.

No, no. Everything that I've been doing, one of the scariest parts.
Are you talking about, like, Neil deGrasse Tyson? Yeah, I'm talking about the real people that's controlling. Because one of the things that we found strange, and Patrick Bet-David talked about it, put up a post.
He was here. He put up a post and said, why is it? Because we had so much pushback about the science and all of that stuff.
He's like, why has no one actually signed up to come and do this debate with him? Why haven't you reviewed the papers? Because I put out papers for solving the three-body problem, because they wouldn't take me seriously. What's the three-body problem? The three-body problem has been hanging around since Newton.
They can always control what's happening with two bodies in orbit. They can predict how they're going to behave.
Oh, bodies in orbit. So when you have a third body, it goes into chaos.
Oh, you mean because of gravity? Because of their gravity. Sure.
I mean, they couldn't control the gravitational pull, but their stuff was off with it. And now, so for 300 years, no one was able to solve the three-body problem.
Then AI did some solutions to it, but all of their solutions were time-dependent solutions. So they could run it for a number of cycles, but then after a given point, it would descend back into chaos.
Do you actually know, I'm not saying this physically, how electricity works? Yes. Oh, really? Because that's funny.
Ask any question that you've ever had about anything in the universe. No, I don't know.
I don't want to know. I mean, literally, I'm saying as any question that you've ever wanted to know about the fundamentals of how the universe behaves, and I have the answer because we have the fractal.
So, I mean, you can do it right now. Any question you would want.
Any question about anything with it. We're talking about pressure.
The entire universe. I've got one question.
This would be a good movie. Well, let's see.
I hate to be selfish, but how can I ensure, especially now that we have AI and now that I'm almost 70, how can we ensure that I don't die?

That's really the question that is most honestly on my mind.

And it's the easiest thing to answer.

We have five elements in our DNA that make up our DNA.

Hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, phosphorus, oxygen. All five of these elements sit up and line themselves.
And if you look at the legs of the DNA, not across the... Yeah, sure.
I know what you're talking about. The helix.
The helix. The helix is made up.
This is where the phosphorus and the oxygen spits. I'm going to hold up for a second.
You will have one, you have one phosphorus waveform, and you have four oxygen atoms around it, wrapped around it. Well, now it looks like Terrence Howard is angry.
No, I'm not angry. And then off of this oxygen, these legs will start to form.
This is the DNA, how the DNA legs start to form up. And that's the ATCG.
And that's where the carbon and the nitrogen, and it'll get over here, hit another oxygen that's around four of these. Now, when we're young, under this high pressure, we're tight and everything is really good and things work well.
The resonance, we got to think that everything is moving with resonance. This will be over in 30 seconds.
Everything is moving with resonance. So as the information is going over, but the older we get, the further we get from the center of our galaxy, we're in a more vacuous space.
The wider the space, now there's more room. And so all of the elements that would naturally, the carbon and the nitrogen that would be right next to each other, or the hydrogen, it's separated out.
So other things have gotten in there. That's how we age.
So all you have to do, take your prime resonant frequency, because there's a particular frequency that runs to your whole system that runs across your fingerprint, and you play that back to you. Under a compressed area, underwater, your whole body will tighten up.
You increase the pressure condition. You don't have to die.
That's why I'm like, all of this stuff, it's like, this isn isn't about flying how can i access this frequency with parts found around the home with parts on the runner you can well i mean i just how so i don't need anything special you don't need nothing special you just need to run an electrical current but i'm going to keep getting older no no run an electrical current through your system that's all you you have to do. Run it through your entire system.
No, they have those little things you hold, and it will tell you what your prime resonant frequency is. How to Bill Maher electrocuted an own home.
If you're in the water, say you get a stone tub, and you're in the water. The water is incompressible, and you have that frequency of your own nature realigning you.
It's literally like a molecular massage for each person. And you can tighten things and you can loosen things.
Because now we have the steps that you couldn't have before. Okay, so let me ask you this.
I'm saying you can live forever if you want to. I do, and I'm going to have to call you back on this.
I play shoot hoops every day here, and once in a while I go too hard, and I tweak my ankle. But the first, I've done this before.
I've been told that to walk barefoot on the earth is very beneficial. Why? I'm sure you can answer that better than I can.
But somehow, again, I'm just a layman here. You're connected.
It makes sense on a very basic level. You've got leather on the bottom of your shoes.
Yes. So you're connected.
All that's moving through you. I've got rubber on the bottom of mine.
So now I'm disconnected so I'm no longer grounded. So all this negative energy just builds up inside of my system.
And it's waiting to discharge. The moment you touch the ground, you discharge.
So why are you wearing those shoes if they're bad? Because I don't know if I've got holes in my socks. And I'm i don't think i don't think that's what you should i don't think i'm getting a lot of earth here because we put cement here over the earth doesn't matter what it's still this is you have to what you have to walk what what happened is i walked barefoot on the earth not a lot because i really find it gross god knows what's in that ground and i have to look out for the dog shit and anyway but i did it because this is what i've been told that you know and i do think it made my ankle heal faster i really do well think about having but i don't think that's anything too outrageous no it's not it's just basic physics if you have something that wants to discharge because you're building up all this negative charge and going throughout life, going throughout with everything we're dealing with, and back to the frequency of 440 over 432, it's said that Joseph Goebbels, you know, Hitler's minister of propaganda was the one that pushed 440 instead of 432 because it made people anxious.

So to what you were saying earlier, everybody wants to fight and they're looking for a fight.

Goebbels pushed what?

Joseph Goebbels reached out to the opera houses in all of the other countries and said, back in 1938, 1939, when Hitler was doing all of his stuff, saying, hey, we've written a German opera, and we want you to, we would love to do it. And this is before the big stuff happened.
We would love for you guys. The war, yeah.
Before. And Hitler, you know, would be really honored if you would change your music to 440 so we could do this opera there.
And they did that in all those countries, and they all wanted to avoid having them come. But what was the effect of moving it to 440? Well, because it takes you 440, 432 hits you right at the heart.
It's calming. It's good? It's calming.
This is natural. I see.
So 440 makes you rabid? Yes, 440 makes you rabid. And they took it to 442.
They keep taking it up and people are just, and all of the music is programmed to that. So everybody is just like this, discharged, charged up.
And so they want to discharge. So you take your shoes off, go to a tree.
This is what I do when I'm flipping out and I put my hands on the tree, barefoot in front of the tree, and I just hold it, close my eyes, until I don't know the difference between the tree and me. And that discharging, that circulation, help heal your ankle.
Because part of your prime resonant frequency is the Schumann resonance, and the Schumann resonance is the earth. Honestly, I can't see myself getting to the point where I don't know it's the tree.

I mean, you must be on a— You don't know it's the what?

You said you don't know which one is the—

No, you do, because the tree doesn't know where its branches end.

The tree is always trying to grow.

I thought you said you didn't know.

And then I don't know where I end, because after a while of holding something,

you forget you're touching it, and you forget it's touching you. How long does this take? Five minutes.
Five minutes? I feel like I would always know it's the tree. And that would be the end of our relationship.
No, it's not. No, it's not.
But, you know, if the 440 is making you tense, you know you can fix that? A 40. A 40.
No, a 40. Call 45.
45. By the way, you are like this generation's Billy B.
Williams. I told you that once at a party.
I said, you should play his son in a movie. I was with Kid from Kid and Play.
Do you remember that? Yeah. And I said, I don't know.
We were both high. We were high because this whole time, I've been waiting to fucking meet you.
No, but we didn't. And I'm like, damn, I met you and I don't even.
And we both bum-ruffed you with this great idea that you should play Billy D. Williams' son.
But it was at the time a great idea. And Billy D.
Williams was here. And,, and he's 80, and he's still fucking cool.
Yeah. And you look like you could be his kid.
The biggest mistake I made in my career was Smokey Robinson offered me, brought me off to come have dinner with him, and he wanted me to play his life. And I just had conversations with Lee Daniels about playing Marvin Gaye, and I was like being faithful to Lee Daniels because I had given my word as a man, I'm going to do this with you.
So when Smokey, I had to tell them at the table, and it broke his heart. That was the biggest mistake, and Billy Dee would have been one of the other people that would have...
Man. So you did which movie? I didn't...
Lee Daniels never did Marvin Gaye. That's a shame, because that is a much more interesting stuff.
Smokey would have been perfect. Well, Smokey's interesting, but he's not...
Because he went through shit. Yeah, but he's not dead.
No, he's not. And Marvin Gaye is.
And I'm sorry, but drama is drama. And there's a lot more drama in getting killed by your dad.
Yeah, but the problem with... That's a story.
I'm sorry to be the studio head who says not. But no, that's much more interesting.
And Marvin Gaye was like, you would have been perfect as Marvin Gaye. And that is a story that needs to be told you know what happened with that i was over at quincy jones house um i'm not dropping names i'm just giving credibility or what i'm no never drop names de niro told me that yeah so um so but i'm asking quincy um i'm hearing rumors that marvin was gay and marvel was gay and i'm like was he gay was and and quincy's like yes oh he went around it with everything and i was like no and and i'm like i could not i just feel like there's a there's gay for real and there's a point where guys get so much pussy they're just like oh fuck it yeah well it would have been that but they would have wanted to do that and i wouldn't have been able to do that it wouldn't you mean you couldn't kiss a guy in on screen in a movie no not even yeah no because I don't fake it.
I literally, it has to. I couldn't kiss a man either.
That's true.

And that doesn fuck me. I would cut my lips off.
Yeah, no. I would.
If I kissed some man, I would cut my lips off. Well, I would not do that.
But it does not make me homophobic to not want to kiss a man, just like lots of gay men are like, pussy, yuck. I mean, that's okay.
We all have our own, you know, no one wants to tell you how to. That's fine.
Do what you love to do, but don't do it at me. Don't aim it at me.
And I can't play that character 100%. I can't surrender myself to a place that I don't understand.
Yeah. And so that's the end part of that story of what I had to let go.
Well, I can understand it. I'm just not of it.
I mean, I could certainly understand men attracted to men. I mean, homosexuality is in nature.
You know, animals, there are animals, many, many, many animals. Yeah, the bonobos, the bonobo monkeys, they practice it.
They will practice it. They do, all of them.
Their whole community, the whole colony, everything, the bonobos, their entire interaction is sexual. It can't be all of it if they still make it.
No, but they still do that, but it's seen in there. It's seen in those places.
But for me, my constitution of what matters as a man for me, that's the part that I can't do. Maybe the bonobos are gay.
Every once in a while, the bonobo thinks he should try,

like Elton John when he married that girl in 1989.

You know, I mean, we all knew it wasn't going to work.

But, you know, you we all knew it wasn't gonna work but you know you gotta give it a shot who knows i said that to lee daniels once we were on set um shooting um empire and i'm supposed to call all these names out you know you know call call call call sk her ass, call her something, da-da-da. And then he said, try some pussy, try pussy.
I said, why don't you try it sometime? I said that to the lady. Right.
yeah well see you know that show is why you shouldn't ever quit acting because like once you've had like and you've had you know you're an oscar nominee but there are people who have been oscar nominees and you know like who are can you i mean the oscars were only like last month ask me now who was up? I couldn't tell you. So people forget that.
But they don't forget a show that had its moment as the sort of it show. Empire was sort of that kind of show, which was great, because usually HBO gets that kind of show, White Lotus or something.
I wish HBO had it. I wish HBO had it.
I think you did pretty good where you were. No, but if they had stayed true to that story.
But don't argue with success. I mean, it was.
We had 28 million viewers. Yes.
In the second year. Okay.
HBO has like 28 million subscribers. So, look, I'm true blue HBO.
They're my life and I love them. But some stuff is, I think, no, I think you were in the right place.
Go for, you went for a broader thing, get the bigger payday in eyeballs and in money and become the water cooler show. Once you've had that, I'm telling you, you will always be in demand in some capacity.
And if you think you're canceled forever, there's this guy, I heard about this today, Mark Halpern. I remember I did a bit about him.
I don't know if I mentioned him by name in one of my shows like in 2018 one of my stand-up special he was part of the first wave of the me too thing and his mo was around the office he'd rub his dick up against you do you know you're over there getting How did you feel about it? He didn't do it to me. If he did it to me, I would have felt poorly about it.
Very poorly, I would have felt. But he didn't do it to me.
But he did it to women around the office who were just trying to find the sweet-in-law. And then there's Mark Halpern's dick rubbing against your skirt.
It's as grody as it can get. And yet, somebody told me today, on his podcast or whatever, I'm like, this dude's back? Back! Because everybody's 98.7% simian.
We are all animal, and so we're going to forgive the animal're gonna forgive the animal that goes triple for a guy who's rubbing his dick against you at the coffee station it goes and seven years later so like she's married and got four kids well who the girl that he was rubbing up again i don't know i'm just saying, you're canceled until you're not. And if they like you.
And this guy, look, I'm not trying to make this all about how terrible Mark Halperin is. I'm sure he's a nice guy.
I had met him before that. He was on the show.
But I do find what he did just as bad as it gets. Let me tell you why it's hard.
Why it's hard for a man.

And not give an excuse for that.

But if he can make it back with no charisma,

not like nobody like, oh boy, I can't wait to imagine myself with it.

You can make it back a lot easier.

I know, but I'm about a revolution, about changing the world now.

Well, I hope you'll just at least tell me that you haven't told your agent

Thank you. If he sees something that's really great for you, and then you want to go in and...
I can't believe they wouldn't take a meeting with you. No, no, right now.
You know what? I read this part, and I think I could fucking kill it,

and I'm the right guy for it. Because there are parts like that that are there.
I'm not saying it happens not often. There's not enough good material.
We all know that. But when it does, I hope you jump at it and try to get it.
What if you found the greatest secret that everybody's been looking for that changes everything? How do you go on a set and be able to lend your entire being to a character when your entire being is like, wait a minute, I don't have to stay in this body no more. Isn't it fun? Aren't you tired of being in this body? No.
This body? Wouldn't you love to maintain your body? My body's tired of me. No.
That's the problem. I'm not tired of my body.
I'm trying to be friends with it. I would love to see me outside of my skin in that light.
I would love to see me in other dimensions. I would love to explore these other places that you can go to that the flesh doesn't allow you to go to.
So that's what I want to do. But you were born a movie star.
I'm sorry, Precious, that this is complicating your life. But you are what you are.
I don't know what about the science of it or the DNA or what happened. But some of us, you were just created to be something.
You were meant to be that. I'm sorry, I'm meant to be this.
I'm meant to be what I am. And I think you do yourself a disservice when you fight against that current because you're never going to beat back the boats there.

It's just too strong.

You know, I always say water rolls downhill.

It does.

It's like, and usually when I say it, what it means is that, you know,

I never got married because water rolls downhill.

I know where it's going to roll with me.

And it's not going to roll toward there.

And maybe at some point I'll be able to control that, but it does.

And I feel like I'm happier when I live a moral life,

but don't pretend I'm not who i am and you're an actor and it's fun and you can't tell me that when you nail the close-up it doesn't give you a kind of adrenaline rush i mean i was an actor for 10 years i wouldn't even like really ever wound up that or was aiming to be that. I always kind of more wanted to be what I became.
But that's what I did in the 1980s. And I got a rush from nailing the close-up.
It's just like it's a drug. It was as good as stand-up.
Well, it's a spell you're casting. And when you know that everyone has been captured in that aroma, in that whatever is happening, it's a medium.

But you have to know that it's not you.

You've just opened up and some other entity has entered you.

No, it's bigger than you.

There's another great entity.

Or it can be.

And some of those entities, once they get a hold of you, they don't want to let go of you. And that's where the problem comes in.
But what about Richard Dreyfuss and you in that little battle? That's what I'm saying. He told me, you go to the very end.
So I went to the very end and let go of all.

I questioned everything, and everything was up for grabs

because of trying to always win the frame

to the point where when my mother was dying of colon cancer,

and I love my mother with everything I have,

I'm sitting there looking at her, and the actor in me kicked on and said,

this is what it looks like when you're dying.

And was taking a fucking note.

The actor was taking a note while I'm there, and I'm wondering, who am I?

And my mother died like three weeks later.

And she was the only reason I became an actor.

But does that diminish how you really feel about your mother?

No.

No, no, no, it doesn't.

But I'm like, here I'm trading sacred things for people.

They don't, the producers, they don't care.

They don't know what we're sacrificing when we're telling our stories.

They don't know what we're reliving and trying to put a little seasoning in it and serve this up with a smile. But it's literally my liver and my heart that I'm giving you right now.
And when they mistreat it and treat you like an insignificant worm, my very first thing with Bill Cosby.

No, not in a bad way.

It was just me standing up.

I had gone to an audition.

Barry Moss was right across the street. He was the casting director.

Barry Moss.

Barry Moss in New York, right on 43rd Street, between like 8th and 7th Street on the uptown side.

My younger brother had gone in there to audition, and I just went to accompany him.

Then Tony ended up going back to Cleveland, and I was like, my mother always wanted my little brother to become an actor.

So I'm, and was trying to get pictures, so I'm thinking, if I become an actor, I'm going to get my mother's affection. I'm going to get my mother's affection.
So I go and do the Barry Moss. I go up there when Tony's not able to go to the audition.
I get the part. I go, I'm on the set.
I have a great shoot. I think it's a great shoot.
I'm at Pratt Institute, you know, going to school in Brooklyn for chemical engineering, electrical engineering at the time. And I tell all the kids in school, hey, I'm on Cosby Show, I'm on the Cosby Show.
And the show comes out, and I have people watching it in the auditorium. I've fooled that.
Show comes out, they don't show me on the show. And I'm so embarrassed.
So at 6 o'clock in the morning, that evening, I called my great-grandmother, and I asked her, what should I do? I said, I feel like I need to go and talk to somebody about this, about nobody told me I was cut out of this thing, and I'm embarrassed. So I go up to Kauffman Astoria Studios where they were shooting in New York.

And I'm waiting, and I made friends with all the security guards before,

so they let me in at 6 o'clock in the morning.

I'm waiting by Bill Cosby's door.

They think I'm going to do another episode.

And Bill comes in.

I'm like, hey, Bill, can I talk to you for a second?

Now, this is my very first job that I've ever had. I'm 16 years old.
And Bill says, come on in. And he pours himself some coffee.
He was like, what's going on? I said, I watched the show last night. He said, what'd you think? I said, it's good.
But there's only one problem. Y'all cut me out.
And he was like, yeah. I was like, but y'all cut me out.
And he was like, well, that happens. I was like, yeah, but nobody told me.
He's like, didn't your agent tell you? I was like, I don't have an agent. He was like, well, you need to get you an agent.
Plain, straight. I said, well, well, you told me that you liked us on the set and that maybe you would bring us back together.
This is my 16-year-old ass. He says, and it's only been three weeks.
He was like, well, you know, if we like you, maybe we will bring you back. I said, well, did I do something wrong by coming and asking you about this? He was like, no.
He said, the next time you time you have something on he said you don't tell somebody you're on it you let people call you and tell you they saw you on the show i said but dude i went and told everybody at my school because you're not the number one show anymore rosanne is the number one show and this is how i fucked myself with bill cosby by being that loud and i walked out, maybe this isn't the business for me. That's why I'm not that upset about being this age, because you're just so stupid when you're young.
You do stupid shit. You do stupid shit.
I've done stupid shit, too. I mean, I'm with the cause on this one.
It just happens, and you just got to eat shit when you're young and on the bottom. I remember doing a TV movie in 1988 called Out of Time, a direct ripoff of The Terminator.
But we went right ahead. Two-hour, what they called, movie of the week.
I was very excited. I was one of the co-stars.
And I had an 8 a.m. call one day and stayed in my trailer until 3.30 and showed up on the set at 3.30 in the afternoon, which happens.
Sometimes you never get caught. It does.
Directors want all their colors on the palette. So I showed up, and not in a mean way, but just comic.
I thought, and I showed up at 3.30 and said, okay, here I am, ready for my 8 a.m. call at 3.30.
And the director was like, don't ever do that. He was like, you're 28, you got a part in a major movie of the week on a major network.
If I want you here every day at 8 a.m., even if you're not on the call sheet, I'll do it. he didn't say all that but like i got it like dumb just like when you're when you're before you get there don't act like you got there okay there's a song for you don't act like you got there and i thought i was doing the right thing by just standing up for myself but i wasn't patient and didn't learn the system.
And that's what so many young, talented people, they jump out there, they're full of it. That's the bigger problem, too.
That stress is three or four of the things we've been talking about. How much, in 1970, healthy male, how much sperm do you think he produces per heartbeat? Per heartbeat? I didn't know it was calculated that way.
What do you mean per heartbeat? Per heartbeat. Like every heartbeat you produce some sperm? Every heartbeat.
How much do you think a healthy male from 1970, 1969 would produce? Oh, 70. Oh, why didn't you say so? 70.
Okay. Led Zeppelin was on the charts.

I'm going to go with 100 per beat.

1,500 sperm per heartbeat.

And what does it mean?

For healthy male.

And what is that?

Back then.

That meant there was 250,000 to 500 million sperm in a healthy ejaculation.

Now the healthy ejaculation is 10 to 15 million sperm. More? No.
Less. That's all we have left, 10 to 15 million sperm because of the phthalates, because of the BPAs, all the plastics, all of the things that's going into our system.
And that's for all the males on the planet, not just us. So it's estimated by 2045, there will not be any males left on the planet able to produce sperm.
Have you told this to Elon Musk and Nick Cannon? No. Because they're doing the right thing.
Procreate. Really? Procreate if you have to, because most species, when they're facing extinction, that's one of the first things they do.

There's a genetic kick that's like, okay, we need to diversify and procreate.

Something has to survive this. So, hey, but nowadays we don't have that much time.
How old are your kids? I have a 31-year-old daughter, Aubrey, a 29-year-old son hunter and uh and a 28 year old daughter heaven heavenly and i've got a nine and eight year old kieran and hero so the ones who are around 30 obviously they're full-on adults what do what do you what do you guys what what what do you argue about what what where are they like dad that's old thinking thinking, Dad. They don't do that.
They don't. They don't do that.
Do you see eye-to-eye and everything? Because I was too honest with them. My daughter got mad at me because when she was 14, I called her, and I was like, hey, I feel like killing myself because I was going through all that stuff with getting kicked out of Hollywood and all of that.
I put too much on her. So I shared everything with them.
I was never, you know, outside of it. And so they didn't believe anything about the science for the first few years until now all of the patents, now all of the stuff flying, and now all of the changes and what AI is doing with it.
So now they see me as the greatest hero right now. Because at one point, my daughters were like, I don't respect you as a man.
As a man? Because my ex-wife said I had beat her up. Right.
And all of that. And that was the worst part of trying to defend myself at a time when you couldn't defend yourself.
And that's when I dove into the science. But they see me right now.
You think she just was mad at you, so she said you beat her? No, no, no. She was doing that because she knew that I had a fight with my first wife.
But she knew that within a year of us being married, not one trip to the hospital, not one call to the police, not one report from neighbors about us fighting, not any of that.

And she goes and says, you know, that I beat her up.

And it's like anybody that knows me.

Yeah, I fight.

I fight men.

I'm a fighter.

And I do that.

Nobody knows what a guy is like.

That other stuff.

Yeah, but nobody knows what a guy is like when he's with a woman. I've seen it too many times.
Like people who I, you know, I won't go into specifics, but there's somebody who a lot of us in the comedy world work with. And we didn't know some of the very unsavory things he was doing.

I'm just saying, no one knows you unless they know you in that way.

People are very different with women.

But unless there's, I always say, if you're not in the room,

you just don't pretend you know what happened.

You just like one of the sides, and so you're just pretending that you know

because you want to back that, but you don't know.

But it doesn't sound like...

I mean, I just don't think it's insurmountable as far as...

America has a way of overreacting and going,

oh, yeah, maybe we did kind of overreact to that one.

You know what I mean? I don't mind the overreaction because if that hadn't happened, I would have gone on and kept making the money. And I wouldn't have cared about that little voice in the back of my head.
It was that little voice. What's the voice saying? The little voice was like, remember what you came here for.
Remember the question that you first wanted to know, how does everything work?

When I started going back into that,

I made all the discoveries.

Then I had something to put the money into.

That's where the patents come from.

That's where the innovation comes from

to where this is what...

So you say patents.

Yeah.

Do you think you have a chance

to become extremely rich

from what you're working on?

I'm going to show you something.

I mean, it's a fair question.

I'll see you next time. rich from what you're working on? I'm going to show you something.

I mean, it's a fair question.

I don't think you ever saw what I'm working on, because you're about to...

Is it the thing that's going to make me live forever?

When this is over, I'm going to show you something.

Is your day, like, consumed with this?

Like, do you work with a team?

Yeah, we have a full team, international team, from people in Canada, people in Chile,

Thank you. consumed with this? Like, do you work with a team? Yeah, we have a full team,

international team,

from people in Canada,

people in Chile,

people in Germany.

Because when I first did my stuff with the linchpin,

when we first decided,

what is the linchpin?

What is the linchpin?

Well,

uh-oh what is well this is how it started at the ditty parties yeah the guy reaches into a bag and the next thing you know you've got somebody's dick up your butt yeah okay hold on hold on some Pentagon. Wait.
Can you believe some of the people who were at those parties? Yeah. Justin Bieber.
Yeah, but he shouldn't have been there at 14. And that's the thing.
You know, for somebody to, like, I stand big on maintaining somebody's man card. You know, but if it's taken from you, that don't take away your man card.
If is is is is raped it doesn't take away what is man card meaning man card is is your integrity your dignity oh that's not your butt it's your butt oh wait is it your integrity or is it your butt that is your integrity that's because that goes to your intestines and that's what you do. Well, look, to be clear, my man card is never expired.
Okay. My man card is intact.
You don't have to get out of the car. But I don't think my butt has anything to do with my man card.
But okay. All right.
This is what happens when, just hold it anyway. This is six pentagons coming together.
Can you imagine that in the last 6,000 years of our recorded history, no one has ever put six pentagons together that way? Why is it good? What does it do? Well, this became the fractal. This is the linchpin.
It's where four bubbles meet. It's where each of the natural forces creates the form of electricity with what you said.
And then what practical end does this give us? Like, where does this get us? Well, before we thought it was a cue. Now we understand that we have 12 opposing vortices, harmonic vortices, that's interacting.
So now we're able to predict where planets are going to be, where we can predict all distribution of matter. We definitely could predict that before.
No, but we couldn't. We could certainly predict where planets were going to be.
But we can predict where all of the stars, where everything is going to align. Each one of these vortices, it picks up the galactic plane, the celestial, and got an app where i'm everything that i'm saying to you i swear is on a hundred percent truth we have papers and we have the actual apps i got a great you asked me before like what question could i ask about the universe i just thought of a great one last week they discovered a planet that's 700 trillion miles away, which is like, I don't know.
Four light years. No, I think way more than four.
Okay, I saw a different one then. Well, it's 700 trillion.
I don't know how many light years that is. Yeah, I saw one day.
It was like 120. I don't know.
Whatever it is, it's a ridiculous number that we could never travel to with what we know now.

Okay.

So the story was that this could be, or they said it was likely to be, a planet that had life because— Of its proximity to its star. No, no, no, no.
because they detected in its atmosphere...

Methane.

...five different chemicals that are only present when life basically is breathing. Okay, I was very impressed that they could detect this from 700 trillion miles away.
so can you explain to me how they could detect what chemicals are in the atmosphere of something 700 trillion miles away? Because I don't know. You ever heard of a spectrometer? Have I heard of one? I've got one in my car.
No, a spectrometer, it basically, we as humans see only 0.005% of the total light spectrum. That's less than one half of 1% of what is light.
A spectrometer is able to see all of the other waveforms that we're not able to pick up. So there's a chemical that every chemical has a prime resonant frequency by which it bonds or breaks its bonds.
That frequency, you can have the Webb telescope sending a laser that's picking up, and that consistency, it's able to attach that to the periodic table. It says it has this here, this here, this here.
Okay. Very good.
I'm just saying I could not have done it with things I've learned on YouTube. And somebody did it, and I think they should be applauded.
I don't think they're getting enough love for being able to detect what chemicals were in the atmosphere of something 700 trillion miles away. I feel that guy should get laid more.
Well, he will. You know what? With your plug, he will.
No. This right here.
It's still going to be you. Picture this as one proton.
Okay. Guess what happens when they begin to bond? Oh, it's like Legos.
Oh, Legos wish. Legos wish.
That should be your next... This is the fractal.
Okay. So now this is what they are seeing.
Who's seeing? When they look at particle beams, they're only able to see to this point. Oh, oh, all right.
And you see that it still fractals out or scales out with the same four vortices that it had, and four of those will bond and make larger bonds, and it's all predictable. So the Heisenberg uncertainty principle is gone now.
I still don't see how it affects my erection. I'm sorry.
Well, that's the same with nitric oxide. That's just the endothelial cells.
You need to... I broke the universe.
You broke hydrogen. You just crushed hydrogen.
You're a believer. But I was able to demonstrate.
All right, well... And these things fly.
Fly? Like a drone? They fly. No, like a flight vehicle, not like a drone.
Patent's been granted worldwide. And I'm like, this should have never made it through.
Shouldn't have. It should have never made it through.
Somebody should have snatched this and said, hey, it's that important of a thing. And they've allowed it to go through it allows for over unity they allowed ai i mean you know a it's nobody's watching the shop that's what i'm saying well certainly nobody used to be watching right saying hey we need to keep this in our government definitely nobody's watching the shop that's what i meant on patrick david's show about hey no no but even even before trump ai nobody was stopping ai and probably nobody will they're just going to rate have a race to the bottom and when i mean the bottom i mean like where the money is and fuck it if it's going to destroy major parts of humanity, um, they just don't care.
When it, when it was first proposed AI, they all agreed. They kind of had a little truce.
Well, this is just going to be a nonprofit, you know, that didn't last. You know, you're right.
It's always the money. The money.
The money, yeah. And the money is all fake.
It's been fake since 71. It doesn't matter anymore.
Yeah, but if it can buy things that aren't fake, then it's not fake. It buys influence, but it has...
It also buys apartments. It buys, you know, the oil that Puffy used.
You know, money is freedom. When I was poor, I didn't have the freedom to never take a job.
That's a great freedom. I have that freedom now.
I didn't have the freedom to eat eat what i wanted to eat because i was too poor i had to eat in blimpies across the street you know i mean so that's why i sued those companies for money because i needed the money that i you're gonna make two three billion dollars off of me and give me i've got 28 billion 28 million viewers the people on big bang theory but that's your agent's job. Yes, my agent's job, but they had packaged the deal.
So they were incentivized to keep my pay low. And so they're telling me that, no, no, it's because you and Taraji are favorite nations, and we couldn't come to a deal with her that we got to keep you at $325,000 an episode when you got 28 million viewers.
And they did that for six years. And they were the ones that were looking after the people on the Big Bang Theory.
You should have left that agency. Yeah, well, you do.
And it's like now I got to sue you. That was wrong.
I got to check you on that. The business has changed for the people watching this or not in the show business.
There was a time when agents were not involved in packaging and producing and production. And once that line got crossed, it did become a little weird.
Fiduciary responsibility was neglected. And that's become pandemic in our business.
No one keeps their word. Nobody's a man anymore.
Do you really think they ever were? You think Louis B. Mayer kept his word or any of these motherfuckers back then? You think they kept their word? Yeah, they kept their word that Marilyn me after lunch you know i i don't think anybody ever what yeah you're right i mean i just they've been selling they've been selling um neverland to everybody they're no different than any other business we just sell something different we sell dreams and entertainment and acting and other people sell widgets and other people sell fucking mufflers.
And everybody, that's the beauty and the horror of capitalism is that it depends on human nature being what it is, which is greedy and selfish. And if you ever try to change that equation, which is what communism was, you will fail because human nature is greedy and selfish.
And, you know, look at you. You've got like a million-dollar parka on you.
You don't want to be poor. No, I do not.
Yeah. The selfish thing.
That's why I sued everybody. I want my money.
Right. Shit.
That's the thing. I want my money.
Yeah, I don't blame you. Show me the fucking the fucking money man there's your boy Cuba again I know fuck yeah so we can go away but I've got other shit to do alright but I love this man well I got other shit to do too now I could talk to you all night I really could I love getting a little wasted with you you You are everything I thought you would be.

This is to us, man.

Please don't say this the last time.

No, no.

Okay, bro.

Look up my shit.

Oh, I will.

Look up my shit.

Go to terrislynchfence.com.

All right.

Well, I promise you I will do a deep dive.

I promise you everlasting life if you do.

That's a lot of fun.

Thank you, man, for coming here and doing this. I really appreciate it.
Thank you for smoking with me. Thank you.
Oh, yeah. That was beautiful.
That was kind of beautiful. A lot of people are going to take one to go.
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