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He's young.

He's young.

Oh, look at you.

Yes, my girl.

Come on, give me a pound on that one.

And then Hummingbird showed up and they wanted a piece of the action.

You're like snow fucking white, Bill.

No.

No, you held up amazingly well.

Well thanks.

You look pretty much the same as when we well.

But thanks.

No, really, because

it is a great variance how people age.

I mean there are people who are almost the same age or the same age, and you look at them and like, wow, one looks like 10, sometimes 15 years older.

A lot of it has to do with movie stars.

They're out in the sun all the time.

I'm in the sun.

All the time?

I love it.

But you don't wear any sun.

Well, you're Italian, right?

Yeah, but I'm see-through white.

But I, yeah.

But I just got back from.

You look like you're just got a healthy tan.

I'm very tan right now.

I was away for a big vacation.

Oh, really?

Where did you go?

I was in Italy for four weeks and then Greece.

So you've obviously have strong feelings about your heritage.

I do.

Or do you?

I don't know.

Yes, I do.

I love being Italian.

It's my favorite thing.

I mean, that's one thing I got to say about the Sopranos.

Like, he did not hire one person who wasn't actually Italian that I can think of for an Italian role.

Every year, even if it was a guest Buscemi, you know, whoever was the like guest sort of like arc, even that person was Italian.

Obviously, Stevie Van Sant, not Italian, but I think he is.

Like I said, he's Italian too.

And Nancy Marchand, maybe not.

Okay, that's probably right.

But I mean, it was, it was.

I mean,

same with, you know, Al Pacino and Marlon Brando.

It's like, not, not Jamie Kahn.

I didn't get a part on the show because he didn't think I was Italian enough.

But because I was Italian, he asked me to play just some, you know, the hostess.

This is my favorite to just watch you drink.

This is iconic for me to sit here with you.

I'm going to interrupt myself.

What are you drinking?

I'm drinking 818 in the hopes of getting the Kardashians to come on this show.

That's their booze.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chris was here, but so far, you know, they're aborting me.

I don't know why women have a great time here.

We're going to have a great time.

Well, there aren't that many chicks on your show, right?

There's not many chicks on any guy's show.

This is one of the big problems with this country is that, you know,

we're just going in opposite directions in every possible way that matters.

Certainly politically.

We'll talk about that.

But also just like gender.

Like, guys are not interested in what the chicks are talking about.

They're not.

What are the chicks talking about?

Who the fuck knows?

I'm a guy.

I don't know.

I'm not interested.

No, I'm kidding.

But guys are much more interested, yes, they in.

subjects that might veer into, I mean, certainly the bro shows, some of it's about protein powder and like making your dick card, but a lot of it is political.

Yeah.

And a lot of it, to my view, is political wrong, but at least it's like on the subject.

It's not just Travis Kelsey and Frank and Donald Frank are getting engaged.

No.

I mean, did you see this today?

No, I don't, I see, I don't even know.

You didn't hear that they're getting

last night because my girlfriend's staying with me, and so the news is on it.

The TV is never on in my house, but she was watching TV, and I was like, oh,

I was like, that's cute.

Like, I'm trying to, what's that?

Exactly.

That's, oh, I'm just roofing myself.

What do you got?

I go through this every show.

No, no, it's natural for people to say,

these people better fucking send me a case of steaks or like the head of Alfredo Garcia or something.

I don't know, but like every week I plug this.

I love it.

I do like it.

It's Jing.

It's a way to make like just sparkling water into soda, like diet soda, but without any chemicals.

Would you like some jing?

I want to know what the hell this is.

I'm going to need glasses now.

This should be called the Jing.

This is like the Jing Hour with Bill Maher.

Jing-a-ling?

They used to be.

Just put a little jing-a-ling in your fucking cup.

Well, Jing.

They used to, you know, like name the variety shows on TV.

The sponsor would, it would be like, The craft hour with Danny Kaye.

You know, that's how they used to do TV.

Like the sponsor got right in the name before the star.

It's funny to watch everybody that never,

that is used to being on television, all these news folks, even yourself, doing your own commercials now instead of seeing the commercials come on.

And to see you guys reading the commercials.

I mean, I did it once too myself, but you mean here because of podcasting?

Podcasting, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, HBO is such a great place for many reasons, but one is no commercials, and you don't ever have to like stop the show and say, and now a word from Del Monte.

Yeah.

How long have you been there for now?

20 2002, so 23 years.

I know.

That's amazing.

It is amazing.

I know.

That's amazing.

And nine years before that, I'm Politically Incorrect.

And

there was only a six-month break between them.

I've been on TV since 93.

doing

similar shows.

The first one certainly was sillier, but it was still an issue show.

Yeah.

You know, so,

you know, for all the people who hate me, for all the wrong reasons, it's like, I just want to say to them, somebody appears to look like it.

I love you.

I love you too.

I fucking love you.

I'm here.

And, you know,

I know that,

you know, we don't agree on everything politically, but nothing bugs me more than people who won't talk to people.

I know.

You know, or,

you know, you know, they gave me all that shit because I had dinner with Trump.

I know.

I'm sure you saw that.

And like, fuck you.

I welcome your hatred.

That is the stupidest thing in the world, not to talk to people, especially when it's the president.

I knew you were.

And I just want to ask them, is the next question that you have or the next place we have to go, okay, so I'm not allowed to talk to the president of the United States.

What about people who voted for him?

Can I talk to Sylvester Stallon?

Is that all right?

You know, can I talk to you?

You know, it's like, shut the fuck up.

Get out of here.

Well, I mean, that's going around.

I mean, we lost

so many friends.

and and I don't really even care

friends you say oh yeah I mean or you know I don't really I have a small

but a lot of people I mean I've just been I've you know canceled whatever I don't really care but

I don't and I also don't really care who the president is well you should well you should well you should care about both you certainly should care who the president is and I'm sure you do care about your career and and I did I did I had a moment where it was like holy shit shit, this is happening.

This is real.

I have to stay in my lane now.

I was never, okay, I never cared about it.

And then you do get over it.

I would say the analogy for me, mine situation is not quite as severe as yours because they did, like, you are like whitelisted,

which is what they call it, when they won't hire a conservative.

I'm not even a conservative.

That's even

a part of it all.

Right, right.

I'm just a little bit more.

But if you voted for Trump, then you're just in this category.

And

my analogy to that would be up until 2014, they nominated me for an Emmy 40 times.

Never would give it to me.

I got it.

I was still not

enough.

And then after 2014, it was like, oh, we won't even nominate you anymore.

And I'm like, really?

I see what the competition is.

Are you really telling me I'm not even in that running?

You know, Please.

Is this not even close?

Okay, but that's like, that's a type of, that's a lesser cancellation.

And I have the same feeling as I think you do on this, which is like, at first you're like

pissed about it, and then you're like, oh, you know what?

I don't care.

You beat that out of me.

I really don't care.

So if you're at that place where you really don't care if they hire you, because you still could do, you know,

you look good.

You're obviously in that age range where I think actors are their best when they've like done it for a while and they know how to like act without even get getting caught at acting.

Yes.

You know, I probably was getting caught definitely in the last few years.

Really?

Oh, yeah.

I wasn't even, it didn't feel like a huge loss for me, except for financially.

I didn't really care about it.

I think I never cared about it as much after I did the Sopranos.

I think I did it.

I conquered it.

I won, you know.

I didn't think, I never thought that those things were important in my life, but it happened and I was there for it.

And then after that, I sort of felt like, I don't know what could be better than this.

I don't know.

Yeah, you were

a key part of the show

that more than any show ever got critics, not that they're always right, but they did come all over the face of that show in a way I've never seen.

I mean, like things like...

We speak the same.

They said things like, it is the greatest cultural achievement of the last 50 years.

I mean,

and it was a very good show.

I watched every episode and I loved it, Sopranos, like so many people did.

It was great.

I mean,

David Chase is a genius.

It was brand new, too.

It was a new medium to have something on cable like that.

Yeah.

They had only a couple of shows.

Yeah, no, it really put HBO on a completely different level.

Yeah.

And it had something for everybody.

I think that was the key with that show, is that it appealed to so many different kinds of people for different reasons.

So

you had the critics and the elites and all of the intellectuals.

And then you also had

people who wanted a family show.

And then you had people that loved the mafia genre.

So everybody got something out of it.

Yeah.

And there were also plenty of people who kept watching CSI.

Right.

We're like, this is too high for vote for me.

17,000.

But look, I personally feel like I owe it something of a debt because

when you're on HBO, a rising tide lifts all boats.

You know, Game of Thrones, The Sopranos, shows like this that get more people to watch a pay cable network.

Well, you can't even sample my show unless you're...

getting the network, unless you're paying for the...

So any show like that that got more people in the HBO tent

did good for me.

Very similar.

I started in 2002 and I think the Sopranos was 2001.

I always did it.

Is that the first year?

I'm an analogy of it, but

I think so.

I shot the pilot in 9-11.

Was it before 9-11?

Yes, because they took out the Twin Towers out of the intro.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah, I guess that would have been bad taste.

I guess so at that time.

Now I wish I could see it.

You mean CGI'd it out?

Yeah.

computer

wow

had a great intro that I know that song and riding across the bridge I grew up there you know so I forget that you're a Jersey boy and I also

I also didn't know that you weren't a New York Jew I didn't know you were a Catholic yeah Irish boy was your mom Jewish yes oh I mean culture you're yeah you're culturally I mean there was never any I didn't even know she was until usually you do what the mom does you do what the mom does and I mean really i mean i mean my nieces and nephews are all jewish and their moms are both jewish well i guess my brother's kids though are i think when they got married in 19

what they're jews for jesus seriously they are that just makes so little sense it really does

jews for jesus do they do they know jesus was a jew yes but i mean just the fact that i mean you know some

some people are purists they don't want to to believe you know, I'm not going to get into the full,

although maybe that's my most fun topic these days because I totally left the whole, I don't know what's happening in the world politically, but now all I'm doing is trying to trace the origins of where it came from.

You mean spiritually?

Yeah, that's one of my fun topics too, but I'll probably

drink this first.

But you were raised Catholic.

Just kidding.

I was raised Catholic, but nobody in my house cared about religion at all at that time.

Oh.

But I was

obsessed with going to church myself, so I would go by myself.

But there were motivations there, like make my confirmation.

You wanted to go?

I wanted to make my confirmation for you.

Why did you want to go to church?

Well, the hot boys were there, too.

I mean.

Oh, I missed out on all of this.

It was a thing.

And in my neighborhood where I grew up, all the Italian girls and boys, everybody was at church.

And then there was my family who was trying to be progressive, I guess, in Queens, in Whitestone, in the mafia neighborhood.

And then my mom was the writer.

Then everyone called her the lesbian because she would dress hot and sexy.

I always think of the awesome Billy Joel song, you know,

Only the Good Die Young, because it's a, you know, the whole song is about getting a Catholic girl.

to put a, you know, I don't know if I ever paid attention.

To that song?

To the words.

You Catholic girls start much too late.

That's true.

Yep, yep, yep.

Okay.

Saints and sinners have more fun.

I mean, the whole thing is just about, why not do it with me?

You're going to do it.

Catholic, get rid of the Catholic.

It's awesome.

Well, I think the whole restitution thing is

not.

Yeah.

I think that a lot of religion has

sort of just been created to keep us down from recognizing our own power.

I mean, some of it is.

But that was Jesus's message when he was talking to people.

If you decode all of this,

he had a great message.

Yeah, but

the kingdom of heaven or God is within you.

And that's not, it's not here in this church.

You don't need to show up there and get into groups.

What are we doing now?

We're cutting off the.

Is that we?

I'm circumcising the joint.

Go ahead.

Let's go.

Just because I brought qualities.

You want to always like old school qualudes.

You ready?

Qualudes.

Yeah, with the airplane on it.

What were they called?

The 747?

747, yes.

I only did it once.

Those were my favorite.

Yeah.

FYI.

I wish they worked on me.

They don't work?

I did it once.

I was living in New York, my first apartment right out of college.

And some guys came over, two friends, and

I remember we took the Kwaludes in my little shitbox apartment and walked downstairs and started walking down Broadway.

I lived at 55th and 8th.

And about two blocks in, I just, I was over the hood of a camp.

I was just out.

Like Quellud.

You got to fight the, you got to fight the high, man.

You got to fight the sleep on that.

Well, there was no fighting.

And they carried me back to my apartment, which was two blocks away, and they put me on the bed, and I woke up 14 hours later with the door open.

And nobody came in and robbed me.

That's how poor I was.

I'm sure many crooks looked in and went.

57th.

Nah, there's nothing in here.

What?

58th and 7th?

58th and no, 8th.

And 8th.

On 8th Avenue between 55th and 56th.

So we went out of my apartment.

We turned immediately left on 55th, hit Broadway in half a block, started to walk down Broadway, and in two blocks I was passed out on the hood of a cab.

So I so c coiludes were not my drug.

Yeah, I would walk up a flight of stairs and then wake up with bruises everywhere from the coiludes.

So you're not married?

No.

Divorced?

No.

Not divorced?

Never.

No marriage, no divorce.

None of them.

Bastard children only.

Oh, yeah, bastard children.

Oh, that's cool.

I like bastards.

Yeah.

A lot of great people have been bastards.

Alexander Hamilton.

It's right.

Oh, yes.

Oh, I could list you bastards.

My kids will sing that whole fucking musical to me.

I mean, bastard is one of those words like spinster.

It just doesn't really exist anymore because nobody cares.

You know, you know, spinster?

Yeah.

You know,

what's a spinster?

I mean, so

a cat lady, maybe.

Am I allowed to say that?

Oh, fuck.

I'm going to get even more canceled now.

It's a lady who, in the days when...

a woman either lived with her father, her parents, her family, or

the the person she married.

There was no in-between.

There was no that girl getting an apartment in the city in between living with her.

We took care of a lot of them.

My aunts were all spinsters.

They had never even been with a man, and some of them lived with us.

By choice?

I don't even know.

I mean, those old children are so unpopular.

Oh, my poor Aunt Lena.

Why was she unpopular like that?

I don't know.

I think she was tending to all the other women in her family.

Italians are like that.

And you also can't sleep with someone when you're an Italian young lady or you're a friggin putana.

What's that?

That's a whore?

Yeah, putana.

Putana.

Or in Spanish, puta.

It's a good name.

Puta.

For like a character.

Putana.

Putana.

I'm going to use that.

Oh, I came up with a new

fake name for checking into a hotel.

Oh.

Yersinia pestis.

Do you know what that is?

Boy, say it again.

Yersinia pestis.

Yersinia pestis.

Yes.

It's the bacteria that causes plague.

It's the Yersinia pestis.

But people are not going to know that.

No.

So I figured.

I don't know that.

Right.

No, I'm saying it's a...

But Yersinia, it sounds like a person's name.

And pestis, you know, you could be Hungarian, you could be anything.

So I can't wait to check in under the name Yersinia pestis.

Amazing.

Mr.

Pestis, call me Yersinia.

You're going to be real stoned, man.

I think I need to get stoned for Yersinia pestis.

No, no, no, I can't.

I haven't smoked pot since I was 37?

Why?

I was a massive pot smoker my whole life, like huge, rolling joints while I'm driving.

What tragic things?

I was driving with my knees.

I was that person.

Driving with your knees.

Driving with my knees while I'm rolling a joint.

You know, on a dirt road.

Like on a quiet road, maybe in the Hamptons.

Okay.

I love you.

I love you.

I quiver

in the Hamptons.

It's on a quiet road, rolling my joints and my Camaro.

I don't drive.

I don't smoke weed anymore.

I don't do any of these things anymore.

The little pamphlet from the DMV that you get, that's what it says.

It says, if you want to roll a joint while you're driving

between your knees, just make sure it's on a lonely road.

A very lonely road.

It was a lonely road.

Like your aunt's, a road that was just on

Elena's road.

No.

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Is she still with us?

No, she ended up going blind.

But we took care of her up until the end.

Well, it's probably not healthy never to

get laid.

I mean, right?

I mean, I think that was the case.

I don't know.

Did she die young?

No, 97.

97.

Everyone.

There goes that theory.

Everywhere.

Maybe

it fucking takes it out of you.

It probably does.

I mean, I want to live till 97.

I hope I get that.

Yeah.

Maybe I'll get that.

But maybe if you're chased like that, pure,

well, first of all, you probably have never had a, you've definitely never had an STD.

Who?

Oh, the old lady.

yeah yeah let alone your sinia pestis

because that's going around

but I don't know I mean every time you get anything it it compromises your health to a degree even an STD have you ever had an STD no but I never get I get the

I used to smoke so much fucking pot that when I would do bong hits we were we were the bong hit maniacs at NYU

I had fever sores going around in a circle around my face.

From the bongs?

From the bongs.

Disgusting.

Wow.

You mean just because there was bacteria on the bongs?

I don't know, man.

It's just gross.

Very vile.

But we did.

And I was like, everyone's going to catch the fucking ring around the mouth now.

But it went away when you stopped doing bong heads?

Yes.

Well, the ring.

But every now and then I'll get a fever blister on my mouth if I'm in the sun too long or if I'm too stressed out.

Right.

I mean, everything is living inside you, everything bad you ever had, and your immune system keeps it in check.

We're going to live forever, man.

We are not.

97.

But I did have Andrew Huberman on my show Friday night, and he, I mean,

nobody is more respected these days, certainly in the podcast world for the health and wellness thing.

Yeah.

And he said to me in overtime something about like, because because I said, well, I'm going to be 70 my next birthday.

And he said, well,

oh, we were the same.

But I was 70.

You look better than me then.

Oh, thanks.

Well, I don't know.

But,

yeah, I mean, I take care of myself.

But he said, you know, you could live to 120.

And, of course, there are cases of people living to 120.

It's rare, but obviously it can be done.

And I thought, well.

Do you want to?

Yeah.

Oh, fuck.

I want to.

First of all,

if I really could live to 120, that's 50 years for AI to have figured out how to live for, I mean, certainly before 50 years, AI is going to have this figured out.

They might do it next year.

You mean for someone's health?

For just...

Preserving.

They don't want to preserve people.

They want to fucking get rid of us, man.

That's true, too.

So there's that.

But I don't know.

AI,

I feel like, as long as you don't insult it, I feel like it's keeping tabs.

Oh, yeah.

And we're going to get to, I can't do that how.

My kid is at home right now making t-shirt art for us because she refused.

I was putting some, I was putting an Adriana image from the Sopranos through an AI

generator, and she started crying.

I'm like, why?

Whatever, it's just this t-shirt that we're going to make.

And she is so obsessed with the idea of AI ruining the world.

I mean, I haven't fully gotten as deep into it as I probably will

sooner or later.

She's not wrong.

But she's home furiously.

She has a hundred things to do, but she is drawing my art for the t-shirt herself because she's an insane artist.

She's not wrong.

I know.

She's smart.

I know.

I mean, we don't know which way it's going to go.

And look, if it does keep people alive forever, and when I say people, I mean me.

Look, almost whatever else it does,

I'm going to owe it.

But there is every chance it's going to ruin the world in so many different ways, including it could be something as simple as, because it's always going to be based on who programmed it.

I mean, it's only programmed by humans who are flawed with their biases.

And so, like, I just don't think it can see the full picture sometimes.

And we've seen that already.

And that's dangerous.

And it's also just going to take everybody's job.

I know.

There's going to be nothing it can't do.

So we're just going to be useless.

There were the three pillars of, I can't remember the third, I think it was

empathy and creativity.

I mean, those are the things that will keep us somewhat in the game, but that's a very select few, not empathy, but creativity, not everybody.

But then I think about

were we always meant not to be working as hard as everybody's continuously working in this rat race.

What is everybody is taken out of the rat race?

And now we have to honor the earth and be with each other and all of the because there's nothing left.

If AI is doing all the tech shit, then what do we do?

Do we communicate with that?

I mean, that's a very good point.

My friend Harvey Levin makes the same point when we talk about this.

He says, like,

where is it written that we all have to work?

And we just got used to that idea.

But the question, of course, then becomes, and do what?

And how get money to eat?

You know, like,

I get that idea that, oh, it is kind of.

Communism.

Then there we are.

We'll give you this amount of money to just let the computers run the show.

But enough about

the mayor of New York.

Oh, ow, it's

Mandami.

Mandani.

Yeah, New York.

Did it happen?

I'm out.

I have been.

Yeah, you are.

I have been completely removed from it all.

I was so deep in it, and I said, fuck this.

I can't.

Oh, you were deep in it?

I was deep in all of the politics of that.

From when to win.

I guess I would say

COVID.

I feel like I had no choice but to pay attention to that.

You and I both got a lot of shit for what we said about COVID.

And we're not exactly on, I don't know, I don't know.

I'm not exactly sure where you are.

I mean, I get called an anti-vaxxer, just like I get called a conservative.

It's a bullshit term from people who are way over on the other side, who see someone who's just sensible and have to make them the enemy.

I'm a skeptic of vaccines, like I'm a skeptic of everything medical.

One thing I love that Huberman said, and I had no idea where he was going to be on this, but it's been like behind a lot of the arguments I have with mainstream medicine people is I said,

if we knew everything we could possibly know about medicine and how the body works, like that's we're at 100, 100% knowledge.

Where are we actually?

Like what percentage of what we could know if we knew everything?

And I said, I think most people, because we know so much more than we used to or 100 years ago, think we know we got like a 90%.

And I think it's like 20.

And he said,

I think he said 10 or something.

Even low.

Yes, he said exactly exactly what I've always said.

We're at the infancy of understanding how the body works.

Yes, we know a lot more than we used to.

But, you know, until we like cure cancer,

we're really

going to do that.

Well, they're going to be a multi billion-dollar industry.

Oh, you think that's why?

I mean,

I think that there are.

I mean, you're not alone in thinking.

Maybe we don't cause it as much as we're causing it on top of things.

I mean, it's just a...

We definitely cause it.

I mean, America causes cancer.

That's it.

Everything we do, everything we breathe, everything we eat, stress, you know, we're just, we're just,

look, I love this country and I love the way we are and I don't give a fuck who knows it.

And yes, we are arrogant and we are this and that, but we're, you know, I would take that over what other countries are.

We're also rich.

No one here is taking a chicken on a bus.

You know, I mean, give me a fucking break.

I mean, no one, I'm not, I'm definitely hustled on this country, but it does cause cancer.

It does give you cancer.

And everywhere.

And your constitution.

Everybody's different.

Everybody's fucking different.

Polar bears are contaminated.

That's how much the pollution is everywhere.

Yeah.

Okay.

But as far as the conspiracy theory that they could cure it, but there's too much money in it.

I certainly have heard that.

I'm willing to listen.

There's no real evidence.

And there's so much money in also curing it.

And I just don't think you can keep a secret like that.

And I do think people are evil, but I just think it's too big a one to pull off.

So I'm not on that page.

I think they have methods of dealing with cancer better than they used to, but they haven't cured it.

They definitely haven't cured it.

But like, if you get certain types versus like 30 years ago when my father got it, way better.

Lung cancer.

My dad, too.

And I know people now who've...

have gotten lung cancer and they're doing fine.

That may not last forever, but it's not like what it was when my father got it.

That's still not curing it.

I do think if they had it, they'd tell us.

I just don't think you can keep it.

But they also just don't want us to play around with other things that compliment

say their medicines like chemo and a media don't.

No, no.

And that's one reason why, you know, Bobby Kennedy sat there and, I mean, I like Bobby.

I don't agree with him on everything.

And I think he, you know, goes too far in a lot of things.

But that basic idea that he has

from the time he was an environmental lawyer, which is that we talk about all these things that are hurting us and killing us, and some of those things are true, but the biggest one is this, the environment.

And I think that's true.

I mean, we live in L.A.

where we're breathing the shit fucking plastic-filled air from the fire in January.

Oh, I know.

Now, don't get me started on that topic.

We'll get canceled all over again.

You may not even be able to go back to HBO.

I'm just kidding.

I'm talking about the show.

You have to edit the whole show.

What do you think you've believed that's so controversial?

I just,

this whole thing with the pollution and the, look, I feel like a crazy person that I even talk about this stuff because I am not a scientist.

I'm not.

a politician.

I don't really have the kind of knowledge to be able to lay pipe down on a lot of issues.

But there are just things that eat away at me, and every time that happens, I've been right about it.

And one of the things that have been driving me crazy, and this is what our whole ultra-free, my t-shirt company

is about

what they've been spraying lately in the sky.

Not lately, it's been going on for many, many years.

Spraying.

You're talking about chemtrails?

Well,

we try not to call them chemtrails, but we call them cunt trails.

We'll call them cunt trails.

But it's not, it's um,

there's no way to dispute what's happening anymore.

They're coming out of the ass of a plane, you're saying

I, you know, I don't know exactly how there are a lot of planes that are outfitted with all this stuff.

And then there are planes that

I've heard even Kennedy say, you know, they're coming from, there's something mixed into the,

I don't know about that.

I don't really think that that's the way it's happening, but

it's happening.

and they're trying to normalize it now.

So, now anybody that's been calling it conspiracy, because a lot of people have, this whole thing with AI and technology and all of this, there's no way to stop the inflow of information coming in.

They can try to censor.

I got to know where the

spraying is coming from.

Okay, I'll back up.

And to what purpose?

What's in this?

What are they spraying us with?

Because of

Jing.

It's heavy metals.

There's a ton of heavy metals.

But they're purposely giving us that?

Well, it's not that they're giving it to us, even though that's probably

an oh well agenda, like, oh, well, this will kill two birds with one stone, but it's more about just dimming the sun because of the climate change catastrophe and all of this stuff.

And there are climate deniers, climate change deniers, and other,

everybody, it's politicized.

It shouldn't be

politicized.

The spraying is to dim the sun?

The spraying is to dim the sun.

Because otherwise the sun would be too bright now.

Well, I guess this has been going on since the dawn of time.

Not the dawn of time, no.

But what happened like in 500

AD, maybe it was, all these volcanoes erupted at the same time.

That's happened.

And you get, it cools the earth.

Yes.

And then it blocks the sun, it cools the earth.

So these scientists know that this is a way in which to mitigate

the sun heating up the earth too much.

And then there was the whole thing.

But it's the opposite of what happens when the volcanoes go off.

They block the sun.

They want to.

Because of everything warming too much.

No, I mean, the volcanoes don't want anything.

They just want to go off.

They're like your aunt who hasn't been laid in 90 years.

They are just waiting to explode.

And they do sometimes.

I don't know if this happened in 500 AD.

It happened many, many thousand years ago.

I'm not sure.

That's a good question.

I'll have to re-look at that.

But they imitate it.

It has definitely happened.

We're like volcanoes go off.

I mean, it has happened in like fairly recent, when I say fairly recent, like a few thousand years.

It did happen.

Oh, I think it was the 14th century, maybe.

Like the early, the 14th century, the 13th century.

The 6th.

6th century.

Maybe, maybe that was.

There were like three big ones, and it caused a big flash freeze, I think, of a lot of, there were no crops.

It was

catastrophic.

The 1300s, which maybe is why that number is like an unlucky number, were like the worst we've ever had because you've had the bubonic plague, Yersinia pestis,

right?

But even before that, Europe was like, they had these horrible rains that

killed all the crops for like 10 years.

And I think maybe this was another one of those volcano things.

But when the volcanoes go off, they block the sun.

You wouldn't need something to block more sun.

You want to open it up.

So I don't know what the spraying is about.

If the earth is, if the ozone is damaged from pollution and all of this stuff.

We actually healed that.

With the Montreal Protocol.

But then the spraying made it worse.

All of the continuous

dropping of heavy metals into the air made it worse.

But the dropping of heavy metals, is that a side effect of something else that we're doing?

Like it's just

in the effluvium of the airplane, which, you know, okay, we still want to fly, so we're going to put up with that.

Or is it, are you saying it's deliberate?

I think that whatever they're putting in there, which has been tested today,

I mean, the people that fly the planes

would be pilots in the Navy, I mean, in the Air Force.

Oh, this is from military planes?

This is probably a military operation.

Yeah.

Where are you getting this?

This is nuts.

I know.

It's just nuts.

Why do you go there?

Why?

Because

you definitely feel

the effects of it on days that they spray, and you can see it in the sky.

I mean, the truth is written in the motherfucking sky.

So you feel what?

You feel worse?

Headaches or something?

They're dropping that shit.

So what do you see?

Because I don't, I'm not, maybe I'm not looking.

But we don't see it.

Okay, so.

Can I, when, when can I, when, when, when should I go out and look and where?

Where am I looking?

I'll look.

Okay.

I'll give you a benefit of the doubt.

Where am I looking?

I'll tell you what, right before those Palisades fires, I knew that everything was going to go up in fucking flames.

Well,

that has nothing to do with it.

They were spraying incessantly.

It was unbelievable.

They crisscross non-stop.

It's a pattern.

It's not a regular.

This is before the fire started?

Right before the fires.

It's a desiccant.

So even if everything's green outside, everything is now going to be coated in this layer of super combustible.

But the winds were 100 miles an hour, and they did like eight other fucking stupid things wrong.

And they had some incompetent people running things.

Trust me, I got my share of conservative backlash talking about the fires because it wasn't all, it didn't happen because of wokeness.

But wokeness didn't help.

Yeah.

So I'm not saying that's what caused it.

It was a

huge amount of wind.

We get this out here.

That's just the facts.

But of course, they should have done many things to mitigate that.

They know those winds are coming.

They should have,

I mean, your boy was not completely wrong when he said, do more raking.

Rake, maybe you should rake.

Oh, my boy.

Okay.

I don't agree with everything there either.

And

I've always been super far to the left.

So this was just about far to the left.

Me, yeah.

Oh my gosh.

So how come you have this reputation as someone who

they don't want to talk to you because you're so on the right, because of the vaccine?

I'm not on any of it.

I don't fucking buy into

our own,

whatever you want to call it, spraying.

That is a right-wing conspiracy.

But it wasn't.

Geoengineering was always something that people on the left, the hippies, the people that cared about health and all this shit.

Yeah, that's true, too.

They were the ones that cared about the environment.

No, that's an interesting point because there's a...

Anti-vaccine was a thing of the left.

And still is.

That's one of the interesting things about Bobby Kennedy's coalition because it does cross over.

I mean, this is Kennedy, the ultimate name in Democrats, who's now part of a Republican administration.

And most of his voters, when he was running, were Republicans.

Because they have...

But yes, there are these maha moms.

You know, these are the ladies in the Lululemons who do not want any sort of.

They shouldn't wear the Lululemons.

It's all toxic fucking material.

Really?

A Lululemon?

That's what I heard.

I don't wear that shit, so I don't know.

Lululemons, did they get sprayed?

No,

supposedly, all the stuff they make their stuff out.

I don't know if I can do it.

If I can't trust Lululemon not to make it, don't wear your Lululemon yoga.

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But the geoengineering thing was always a super literal.

You're right.

It is funny the way people.

It's been a big switcheroo.

Everybody's

inverted politics.

There's lots of

mind control.

There's lots of inverted politics.

I don't know about that, but your point about inverted politics, this goes on all the time.

I mean, I've talked about this a lot.

When I started doing this back in the days we were just talking about,

the people who were the

no laugh, nothing's funny, stick up their ass people were the conservatives.

And now it's the woke.

I know.

They're the ones who are no fun, buzzkills, scolds, hypocrites about all this kind of shit.

Is the woke thing still even happening?

Yes, it's happening.

It is, because I haven't been paying attention.

Here's how you know it's happening, because they made Cracker Barrel.

Oh, I heard about this.

And Cracker Barrel today.

What was the new logo they tried to have?

Well,

just the words.

They got rid of the barrel and the cracker.

Okay.

So it's barrel?

No, no, they just got rid of it.

No, there was a picture of a guy and a cracker standing by the

picture of a barrel and a cracker standing by the barrel.

Now they just went to the words cracker barrel.

They said, no,

we hear you.

We're going back and we're showing the cracker.

What's the fucking cracker?

Like an actual cracker?

No, a guy who's a cracker.

A guy who's a cracker?

Yeah, a fucking

redneck?

Yeah, yes.

A cracker ass.

It's called cracker barrel.

Okay, I didn't know that it meant that the guy, that the person was a was a crack, oh, just a cracker.

Like, I didn't know that it was that.

Yeah, that's what cracker barrel is.

It's a place where

crackers go.

And I've never been there, but I assume they sit on a barrel and have a dinner.

I assume that they're.

I've been dying.

I've been to many of them.

Oh, really?

Oh, my God.

Where are a cracker barrel?

I've never even seen one.

Because I drive cross-country so much.

Oh, you must because I was on the road for 40 years.

And I don't remember.

And you have every New York intellect.

No, but I would have seen it driving from the airport to the hotel to the gig.

You got to look for your cracker.

Maybe I must have seen them.

I just don't remember.

I remember other like redneck-y things that you only see.

Waffle house.

Trip,

Circle K,

things that you like never see.

Or Burger.

What?

Waffle House is a big one.

Waffle House.

I mean, Denny's is everywhere, but I would say it's more in Marietta, Georgia.

You know, certainly every place has a cheesecake factory.

What?

That's not crackery.

No, no, I'm just saying.

There are some things you see.

Crackery, now that I know what the fucking cracker is.

Cracker Olive Gardens.

That's for Italians.

That's for rednecks.

Rednecks that want Italian.

How would you rate?

I have never been.

Because because it's not authentic enough for you?

You don't know what it is.

I probably would not

know I won't like it.

Listen, I just went to Italy and I was not thrilled with the food.

Are they spraying over there?

Or is it just a movie?

That's the thing I was trying to ask this guy who was like the expert on it.

And anybody that wants to,

there's a movie called The Dimming, and you'll probably be interested to understand what some of it's about.

A documentary?

Documentary called The Dimming, and it's on geoengineeringwatch.org.

And the guy that's been doing all the research is an environmentalist.

And he came upon it because he was trying to understand why his solar panels weren't working.

And they weren't working because the sunlight at certain times is being completely blocked.

But then beyond that, it's

killing a lot of stuff.

There's no bees here.

We have no bees in California right now.

I got two nests right back.

You do?

Yes.

Oh, you better don't kill them.

Oh, I don't.

I'm totally on the bee page.

Oh, you are?

Okay, because that's a big part of it.

They can't handle what is coming down from above.

Oh, I could not be more on the B page, but I'm not sure it's from the spraying, but it is definitely from all the kind of environmental damage we do.

I mean, they're sensitive creatures, and I very often see one walking, and when I do, I almost want to cry because bees are not supposed to.

If the bee is walking.

I like, that's really cute, Belle.

Why?

I don't know.

I like that you're talking.

Oh, it's so sad.

No, really.

A bee should never be walking.

I just want to, I don't know whether to put him out of his misery and just quash him or just

you should smoke some weed, sit down and talk to him.

I was going to do that.

I was going to talk to you about

bro,

I feel your pain.

I do.

I mean, it's just so wrong what we're doing, and I feel terrible about it.

I mean, I didn't personally do it, but, you know, I'm sure I'm not helping as much as I could.

And I, you know, I used to take a private plane everywhere.

I feel terrible.

But, you know, life goes on.

But this is probably apocryphal, but they said,

it's out there.

I don't know if it really happened, that Einstein said, when the bees die, humans have four more years left because the bees pollinate the food.

Yes.

You know, we need...

But look, they're not all gone.

They're 70% down here.

They're not all gone.

I mean, I was sitting today

because,

I mean, I don't know how much sun we're blocking, but trust me, at one o'clock today, we weren't blocking much of it.

It was fucking hot.

Oh, good.

I could hit a non-spray day.

I was out there and I'm sitting like, and like just like just where that pole is, like very close, there's a bush.

And I could just sit there, watch all day, and it's just filled with bees

going from flower, you know, one to, and I'm like,

I watched it for like a half hour.

And I'm like, guys, you must have drained everything you could from this bush.

I mean, you're all, you've you've been at it for so long and you keep going.

It looks like you're going in the same one and there's a thousand of you.

And then Hummingbird showed up and they wanted a piece of the act.

You like snow fucking white, Bill.

Yeah, buddy.

That is exactly.

That is exactly

what you're fucking smoking and are we about to fucking start eating mushrooms right now?

This right here.

I'm smoking this right here.

This I grow right here.

I'm smoking weed.

There are bees probably circling this right now outside.

Nothing by my house.

Nothing.

What do you mean, nothing?

No bees.

And they used to come sit with me.

I used to smoke a lot of cigarettes.

Well,

you don't like it.

You need plants that attract them.

They'll come.

Yeah, that's true.

You know, they're not everything's dying at Grey Gardens these days.

They're not going to come for you.

I mean, they used to come.

They would sit on me.

The bees?

I'm fucking Snow White, too.

I'm the Italian Snow White.

i'm snow blanco i could see i could see selling that as a as a netflix series or something

you'd actually be good that actually not a bad idea an italian in a kind of a fairy tale role because have you done that i don't think so pinocchio

is kind of

kind of yeah she'll be doing coke and fucking

cocking her gun every five seconds.

That's our snow Blanco.

Why are you feeding into those stereotypes about Italians being

virtually?

Listen, part of the reason why I don't care about not acting anymore is once I started getting cast as sort of normal people,

I couldn't have been more fucking bored.

I didn't want to be stereotyped when I was young, but now I'm like, if you're not going to stereotype me, then maybe

I think you do care.

It's more fun.

I think you do care.

And you should care.

And you are not wrong to be bitter about what happened to you.

It is just wrong to do this,

what do they call it in the church, excommunicating of people who, yes, I don't agree with you about the spraying.

That doesn't mean I don't like you.

You will, though.

You will when you watch the dimming.

It doesn't mean I don't like you.

I can't work with you.

It's just this exclusionary attitude is just the most obnoxious thing about the left.

And I've said this.

With their inclusivity, with all their, there's going to be major psychological papers written about this time.

You know that.

Oh, there already are being written.

It's going to be wild.

You're looking back on it.

Especially the COVID stuff.

Yeah.

I mean,

you know,

not that they didn't already hate me, the stupid,

the stupid woke by then, but that didn't help.

And of course, now when we look back on it, there's just a giant book that came out that is saying everything I was saying at the time, that, first of all, we should never have gotten rid of natural immunity, as we always thought that was the best, but they went right past that to no, everybody has to get vaccinated as much as we can get in you.

Now, that does look corrupt to me.

But also, just the

collateral damage

was so much worse than the thing itself.

And it wasn't, there were, I mean, masking two-year-olds who never were going to get sick from this, certainly not die from this.

They did a lot of stupid shit that I was calling out at the time and made me a very bad person.

You were a hero throughout this.

I have to say, for, you know, especially working on a station that, you know, we all know all the big canopies over everything

corporate-wise and stuff.

And you talking about it the way you were, and every time it was coming out of your mouth, we were all like, oh, oh, shit.

Oh, my God.

Well, thank you.

Go, go, go, go.

Because we're all Democrats in our minds, even though I'm not a political, I never voted until I voted for Joe Biden.

I never voted in my life.

I never believed in the system.

I mean, me and my ex had a whole music video and album.

It was his album, but I I was involved with him making the music video about mass vaccination back in 2010.

And Stephen King narrates the album.

And if he would have...

Stephen King.

Stephen King narrated the album.

He was a fan of my ex, and the whole album was about,

you know, a new world order on the last night before martial law takes over.

And he's the last DJ, DJing from a pirated radio station.

And it's beautiful, and it's amazing the way he narrates the whole thing.

Shooter wrote most of it.

Shooter's my ex.

Stephen King is during the Bush administration and we were so anti-everything that was going on.

And we believed in all the conspiracies that were, a lot of them turned out to fucking be true now.

But fast forward from 2010 to COVID and it was everything

He wrote in this song, Shooter.

And the music video is of my daughter waking up in her crib and there's a TV screen over her and she's and there's a clown saying wake up wake up and then now the TV has taken over parenting and her she's looking all over the house for her parents and the TV saying we're gone they're gone everybody's gone and there's all these images of the parents getting escorted out of the house kind of stuff

And now she keeps trying to leave the house to go outdoors.

And whenever she goes to leave, there's different TV in every room.

And the TV is like, no,

stay here.

And then look what I can do.

And it blows up a car, and there's war, and she's driving her little airplane into her world trade, and like all of this crazy shit.

Then she gets in the bathtub for bathtim.

The TV goes, It's bathtim.

And she goes by herself to the bath in this full bathtub, and the TV's falling into the tub with her.

And it's just all this propaganda and information going at her, and she's like losing it in the tub.

And that was 2010.

And the song is called The Summer of Rage.

And he's saying in it,

they're building mass graves.

You and I, they'll vaccinate.

And

it's fucking crazy.

But you would get some vaccination.

My kids are totally vaccinated.

They're over-vaccinated.

This is what people don't know about me.

They think I'm some crazy political person.

This is why I really.

I don't give a fuck about politics.

I lived in a bubble.

But I hope you find a second wind to fight this.

It just bugs me that people can do this.

They can just look at somebody and go, okay, well, we agree on A, B, C, D, E, F, G, but then we got to H

and

she didn't agree with us, or she believes this, and so you're gone.

That's just, it's just so wrong.

It's so un-American.

It's just, it's so.

This is the way I saw it.

I didn't think I had that much to lose.

I was losing my home because I couldn't work.

And I took a forbearance.

I never worked that much.

I'm a single mom.

I made sure that I only took jobs that were in California.

I would not leave.

So I wasn't, you know, people,

women my age are not, they're not just fucking throwing jobs at me.

Okay, but now.

But I also didn't want to work that much.

Okay.

If you don't want to work, that's why.

No, what?

No, now, now I actually kind of do because I'm sick of the political shit.

Okay.

I'm over it.

I'd rather just go be fake and do something fake for a minute.

On the work thing.

I must tell you,

as a show business manager wannabe, because I would be a very good manager.

I give people good advice here all the time.

When the rocket goes up as far as yours did, in other words, when you're on a show like The Sopranos, not just a hit show, but an iconic show.

Yeah, so

an Uber show.

Yeah,

but

not so long ago that the audience doesn't remember.

HBO especially, especially HBO,

been great about

they're very, usually very loyal to the people who have been on shows.

You see them come up all the time on other shows.

I said other bad things about them.

Okay, well that may be a special case.

About this, what I'm saying is like documentary.

Parts come along for now, women in your age range.

And if it's between you, who an audience remembers fondly from this other iconic thing, and and like 12 other people who could do the job yes you see it all the time you know

my fans do love so yes so it's not like you not like if there wasn't this political stone in their shoe you wouldn't if you wanted to like you know look at when on a rider how she got a big hit show from but she's not talking about all the crazy no i know but i'm just i'm just saying it's not like they don't want to hire people just because you know, they were on this thing that was, that only adds to it, that you were on something big 20 years ago.

So,

you know, but I hope you do find the

second wind to do that because, you know, I see Gina Carano.

You know who that is?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, I mean, they,

again, do we share politics?

Not exactly.

I don't have to.

And they did the same thing to her.

Yeah.

You know, she said something that was slightly not the one true opinion, and she had to then march off the plank.

And she's like, fuck you.

Who the fuck?

And I forget how she fought back, but she just won some kind of big victory.

Oh, good.

Yeah.

Well, I wasn't working at the time.

So it wasn't like...

But I mean, I was guest starring on a show that I couldn't go back to because I couldn't go back to Canada without a vaccine.

Yeah.

Well, that's what it was.

And I got offered a bunch of jobs during that time, little jobs that would have kept me afloat.

But when I

go to everyone.

So when you weren't making money, what did you do?

I went into foreclosure.

I was losing my fucking house.

I mean,

I was,

for me, it was more like.

I was petrified.

I was petrified knowing what I knew sort of innately about the whole system and what was going on, what I suspected was happening out there.

It felt like a really big fucking

nefarious play for me from the very beginning.

And I was like, wow, they managed to shut the whole fucking world down with this.

This is not,

this is, this is way more than what anybody is thinking it is.

But I can't stop talking about

OnlyFans, didn't I read that?

That was a, I mean, people say, you know, a lot of times.

You have to drive someone to that is just wrong.

Unless you like it.

Maybe you like it.

Well, originally I was going there to do a podcast, talk about all the shit that I was discovering about what was going on.

I didn't want to be censored.

And I was already being censored on another podcast I had years before called Gangster Goddess.

And I was like, I couldn't even say the word COVID because we were shooting it during COVID.

We weren't allowed to even use the word.

So I was like, I'm definitely not going to fucking YouTube with this shit.

So I'll do it on OnlyFans and I'll just talk to men all fucking day because the women lost it, motherfucking.

So that was what your OnlyFans channel was that you were just talking about?

Originally.

I set it up to do that.

And then I put a picture up as a placeholder.

And I fucking was able to save my house within hours.

Yeah, because it's, I mean, it went viral

because this old bitch from the Super House.

I know OnlyFans likes to describe themselves as a place where, you know, contributors or content providers.

Well, what I do.

Yes.

I mean, they get it right, Bill.

That they can, you know, put up anything.

And there is, you can go on OnlyFans and see stuff on poetry and cooking.

but yes, but mostly no, no, I die.

Is there really some poetry?

Well, yes, I'm the one writing the poetry.

I'm just saying, like, like

about politics.

There's just, you can do anything on OnlyFans.

It just happens that men masturbating to naked women is the popular choice for so that, but yes, you can do many other things.

And I mean, I don't know what you were doing to make men masturbate, but apparently it didn't have to be men.

I don't even know if that's what was going on on my page.

I mean, it's always a matter of money.

Well, men are always masturbating.

You can always

assume that they're masturbating.

That's true.

Fucking animals.

I mean.

They kind of are.

I mean, if you, if, I mean, I guess fight a dick.

I don't know.

Well, I mean.

Right.

If you had a dick.

And it's always fucking awake.

It wakes you up.

It wakes you up in the middle of the night, in the morning.

It wakes me up in the fucking morning.

What are you talking about?

Guys, like, looking to.

Get some?

I mean, my boyfriend wakes up in the morning every morning.

I was like, I'm sorry.

He's up there sitting up there with a bunch of girls.

Right now, they're all looking at him like.

So you have a boyfriend now?

I do have a boyfriend.

How long has that been going on?

Six years.

Oh, that's great.

And it's good?

Works out?

Yeah, it's good.

And you don't want to get married again?

I've never been married.

I think that that's something I would like to try because I never did it.

I never believed in it like you.

Yeah.

I know.

I know that about you.

I always thought, why the fuck do you need a piece of paper?

And why does it have to be government?

Right.

Like the government.

Fuck your government and fuck your institutions.

And fuck, I mean, listen, I am a spiritual person.

I don't want people to get mad at me who think that I'm one thing and suddenly they hear I'm not, but I don't believe in religious institutions either.

I really don't, even though I am, you know, I am a crazy Jesus freak.

And that's, I love, I love JC because I love men with long hair and beards.

And I'm a hippie like that.

And that's my image that I have, which is probably totally fucking wrong and fake.

But,

but the marriage thing,

I cared about it after COVID.

When I went through what I went through in that time period where I felt so isolated and so alone,

and I guess this is how people deduce that I might be a conservative, I sort of felt like everything was going so far left that we were getting so far away from the center of things.

That is true.

That happened.

I wanted to get back to

tradition.

Any tradition.

I don't want to go all the way that far back.

I mean, unless a tradition makes sense.

But I'm all for chucking traditions when they don't make sense.

Some of them do.

But yes, your thing about we went too far left.

I mean, that's been what I've been preaching.

And of course, that is never good enough for the super woke.

They have to then pretend that you are some sort of enemy, as opposed to just, I just, you know, as I say to the woke people all the time, we voted for the same person.

You're just why she lost.

Yeah.

I know.

And

I never would have

moved over to the right.

To me, it just felt like common sense.

It had nothing to do with politics.

I was like, well, this makes fucking more sense to me.

This scene sounds more like the shit that I was raised on around my dinner table because we were households.

I can't go there with the biggest

Trump is doing things that are just too harmful to this country.

And I mean, you have to really try to be stupider than the woke.

But some of those things that they're doing, yeah, I mean, I'm not down with militarizing our cities and all these troops on the ground.

I mean, either the police can handle the job or get better police or redo how we do police.

I do think we need to remore, you know,

we did take away their morale

because we

car because again,

stupid woke shit had to pretend that every policeman in America was some sort of racist assassin and that's just not fair to the cops who do have a hard job.

And there are some racists.

There's some racists everywhere.

And there's some shitty people doing everything everywhere.

But you do need the police.

What I don't need is fucking Marines doing the job of the police.

I mean, first of all, I don't want them to pick up the bad habits of the police.

I don't want the Marines to start eating donuts

and getting like blowjobs from street walkers.

I mean, that's just not what the Marines are there for.

The New York police.

Oh, you got to love the New York police.

I love them.

I love them.

I was never, I never got on board with that, but I could easily be swayed into,

oh my God, are people getting hurt?

Like, any minority.

Like, I, you know, again, I was a fucking far-left liberal, man, like progressive in my mind, too.

If I even understand politics correctly, I don't know.

But to me now, those are just fucking pronouns at this point.

Left, right, red, blue, fuck all of it.

It's just me and you.

And that's it.

And I feel like that's what it needs to be.

I have no faith in any of these institutions anymore.

I don't care about Trump.

I don't care about

Kennedy.

I don't care.

Even though I went balls to the wall for Kennedy, and I did because of all the other things that I thought were important.

And I do love the truth.

I think the truth is great.

But now, once you get into those positions of power

you can't tell the truth anymore

so

everybody's compromised and everybody's going to be blackmailed until the end of times all these feminist ideas for me like i have a problem with a lot of that

like i don't i don't need to fucking wear some pussy hat and run around like a maniac to prove that i am some fucking strong being

if you wore it on only fans it would work good I mean, maybe I can just

put my head inside my own pussy.

That would be a whole other fucking thing.

But you haven't shown your pussy, have you?

No.

I mean, yes.

Really?

No, no.

Let's get back to geopolitics.

Not geopolitics, geoengineering.

Jesus Christ.

But see, I don't know.

For the first time, I took my clothes off.

And

I haven't put the pictures out yet.

I've never done it.

I've never done nudity in my whole life.

I never never did it.

Sons of Anarchy asked me to do it for the final episode to have sex with Charlie Hunnam.

You never did it with Christopher?

I never did it with Christopher.

I was always in my panties.

A panties in a bra.

A panties and a bra.

A panties and a bra.

And I lived in panties and a bra.

But HBO, there was no full nudity.

And on FX, there wasn't nudity.

But that show signed up.

HFBO, that nudity.

Yeah, I never did nudity.

I just,

I mean, I don't get naked in front of people normally.

I'm uncomfortable.

I put a fucking bathing suit on.

So here I am now on OnlyFans doing something completely, I put it, you know.

And why is your boyfriend always rubbing his flashlight against you?

He's young.

He's young.

Oh, look at you.

My girl.

Come on, give me a pound.

But I did take off my clothes for the,

I was like, I,

and it was kind of a political, you know, story.

I don't want to get cute about it or precious, but in a lot of ways, me doing OnlyFans

was that.

It was like, fuck you.

Like, I'm not going to play by your fucking rules.

I'm going to go make my own fucking money.

I think that's it.

And I'm going to take a selfie.

Like, all these other fucking girls show their everything on Instagram.

I don't have a selfie page.

Like, I never did that.

I was never one of these girls that was like, oh, my God, I feel it.

I feel I look at my tits.

Like, never did that before.

But the kids were like, do it.

Take a picture.

But sell it.

And I was like, okay,

I'll try.

I mean, it it was supposed to be a podcast but we didn't do the podcast once the picture went up there i was like i'm old and tired like this works but i'm gonna let it ride for a little bit i don't care i mean first of all you look really good second of all more than ever i've noticed in society maybe it's just la

that Men are into women.

Like there's a lot of men into old women.

Who are into cougar age women who've kept themselves up.

And, you know, somebody once said to me, Bill, you have no idea what it's like to have sex with a woman in her 40s.

And I said to him, No, I don't know.

You're correct.

But I get what you're saying because it's a 10,000 hours thing.

You know, the 10,000 hours thing?

Malcolm Gladwell famously said, anything worth really mastering takes 10,000 hours, like playing the piano.

See, if you want to learn to play the piano, you got to put in 10,000 hours.

Okay.

And same with fucking.

Like, yes,

it is kind of a skill that gets better with age.

You know, I mean, yes, the 18-year-olds look fantastic, I'm sure I've heard.

But, like, of course, they're going to be terrible in bed.

Right.

They haven't put in their 10,000 hours.

And if they have, that's a real hoe.

They've got 10,000 hours by age.

No, no, no, no.

That's not a good thing at all.

But yeah,

I did it.

I did it.

Yeah, you should be fine.

I mean, no, no, no, no.

Shame in that.

I did it out of desperation.

There's no question.

So I don't have this fucking like, I feel empowered.

If my

people who should be embarrassed, the people who made you put you in a state of desperation, they should be in the middle of it.

I mean, no one made me fucking do anything.

I made my choices.

I could have faked it.

I could have lied.

I could have used a vaccination card like a lot of other people.

But I did get dropped by my agent.

I am going to make that.

I got dropped by people.

Really?

Dropped by your agent?

Without even a a phone call.

She was a friend and she told my manager that she was dropping me.

Fuck them.

This town is such a bunch of fucking assholes and babies and hypocrites.

I know.

They're just such obnoxious pricks.

But I love everybody.

I don't even care.

I know.

And also some of the greatest people.

I mean, you know, it's just humanity.

What can you do?

And I'm not bitter.

Like, I'm really fucking not bitter.

I'm more bitter for you than you are.

No, I'm not not, because I was, I already had, you know, I didn't feel like I had much.

I was losing my home.

Well, I think.

Career-wise, I didn't feel like I had much to lose.

I had money to lose, but not

something I wanted so bad.

So I felt like I had to speak out.

But careers don't go in a straight line, especially acting careers.

I mean, somebody would be very smart to grab you right now because it's like, okay,

you loved her, you haven't forgotten her, and then she got a bad break because that's what America does all the time they like cast somebody out and then they go a little while later oh yeah maybe we were a little hasty about that

sorry

and then perfect timing so I think the timing is right for somebody to put you in something good I really do thanks no I really I think that would be a great

casting move it just would

they're not making TV shows that's another thing really They're not making TV shows?

Not all the streaming stuff?

There's not a lot of stuff going on.

The streaming services aren't all doing a million.

They overshot themselves.

COVID.

Everything is fucked up.

Yeah.

Not that they needed another log on the fire of why they hate me, but I wasn't exactly the biggest supporter of the strike.

No.

And of course.

I'm not a huge supporter.

But I understand that because

of course.

And I'm not against their wishes, but it did come out a few months ago.

40% of the jobs never came back.

So it wasn't exactly like I was completely wrong about that.

No, but like this movie

that I did two years ago, that was one of the number one films on Netflix right now, Netflix, and it's, I think it's, yeah, it's nominated for an Emmy

this year.

It got 2.8 billion streams.

And because it was before the strike, we don't get a fucking dollar from that.

I don't get residuals from the Sopranos either because it was cable and we hadn't really negotiated that yet.

So it's fucked up.

So of course I was in fucking foreclosure at that point after not, you know, I work, I work from check, I make sure I work for a certain amount of months and then I don't work for a while so I can take care of my kids.

So,

but yeah, so yes, I did, I did the OnlyFans.

And the kids are how old?

17 and 14.

Wow.

That's some very tender ages.

Oh, yeah.

Especially growing up in this shit.

I mean, with all this technology and

it is.

Do they want to be in this business?

Well, now they both want to be musicians, which is

nerve-wracking.

Why?

It's another.

It's another entertainment section.

It's another place where everybody was canceled.

And if you didn't follow the protocol.

Music?

oh my god you got canceled in music well nobody i mean everybody was woke as hell except for the four people that spoke out and they were completely demonized i mean and if you're i mean the only place you can survive is country music maybe and jamala kanye i mean i can talk about even my own boyfriend why what'd he say he he ended up quitting his band and he quit his band over other reasons because they they were not being cool to him you're with another musician i'm always with a musician that's your type

you're a groupie i'm a groupie whore i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding

i'm just kidding um

now my kids are musicians so now i can just take care of their music career um but no music goes right to the pussy i love music oh i thought you were gonna say right to the bone but i guess you were well i'm just i'm just saying you don't have to like intellectualize you know no you just it's the best right it's the best i mean if i could have um

I think that was, that's my number one favorite thing in the world.

I think when I was a kid, I loved musical theater.

And then that, I just fell in love with rock and roll when I was a kid, like, like that.

Every musical genre, though.

I love all kinds of music.

But,

but my, with my boyfriend on the music thing, once we started ultra-free,

people started calling him a white nationalist and like both of us.

People think that we're like these, these

like racists.

And we're like, what?

Like, I don't even understand how we got there.

Like, I'm a hippie who don't want to take medicine because I don't even take Tylenol.

Right.

I mean, so now I'm a fucking racist.

You have to be all in or you're all bad.

And this is one of the key things, I think, that we have to solve.

And, you know, I'm hoping because the Democrats got their ass kicked last time.

And, you know,

I know you want Gavin Newsom to be the president.

I like Gavin Newsom.

I know you like him.

I do.

You think he's very presidential.

I do.

I mean, he's cute.

He's cute.

He's handsome.

I mean, that's not what's doing it for me,

but I'm glad that you like the way he dances when he's.

I'm glad he has that going for him.

When he does like a poppin' look, when he talks about the fires, I was curious about it.

There's two things that go right to the pussy: music and politics.

Wait, no.

But I mean, come on,

it's not a detriment.

Listen, I was in D.C.

for some event that

we were at for, you know, the Republic, the whole thing during that era.

And I couldn't believe the feeling in this hotel that I was in of

I could feel

the sexual

degeneracy that previously lived in those hotel rooms.

Like, I could feel it.

I don't know what it was.

I've never said that.

I've been living in California my whole life.

Wait, where are we now?

Where am I feeling this?

In D.C.

No, but where were you?

What hotel was I in?

You were in a ballroom?

I was in a hotel.

Where in the hotel?

The rooms, the lobby, everything.

Everything about D.C.

The whole thing.

The cult of sex?

The whole fucking place felt like

dirty sex to me, man.

Maybe they sprayed it.

But wait, just a feeling?

You didn't literally smell it.

No.

Because a beautiful hotel that we were staying at, you know, probably.

What hotel?

I'm asking for a phone.

We need to know.

I can't remember the name of the hotel.

You're Cynthia Pestis.

I'm registered under the name Mr.

Pestes.

Yes.

Could you have some champagne?

Sounds up to 614.

Thank you very much.

Maybe it was called Langham or something.

I don't remember what it was called.

What is the

point being that DC is?

Well, we're talking about politics and rock and roll going,

but I never think of, I think of politics as state and like whenever you.

No, man, this was

demonic feeling.

Demonic.

Yes, there was this really dark sexual energy there.

No.

I swear.

Now, QAnon believes the Democrats are pedophiles.

I don't know anything about QAnon.

Okay.

But do you believe the Democrats are pedophiles?

I mean, I think that there's pedophilia in the world.

In the world, sure.

But I don't think that should be politicized again.

Oh, good.

You know, I think most of these issues should never be politicized.

I think, but that was a funny thing when that was happening, when all of the

Sound of Freedom movie came out about that guy that was that was

talking about all the child trafficking and how publications like Rolling Stone and like all of these like pillars of being a liberal, they all came out and said the most awful things about this film.

And it's like, who cares about the film?

Let's talk about what it's about.

Right.

Why do you give a fuck about this movie?

Like that it's that it's political and that you don't like it because the right-wing people, I mean, you don't think there's pedophiles on the right too?

Like, what the fuck, are you crazy?

That's part of our problem is that everybody makes their decisions based on the politics of the art and not the art itself.

That was recent, though, right?

I mean, I would say that that was not a thing before.

Correct.

Politics were always corrupt.

Correct.

Well, no, people used to judge the art for the art itself, and the politics was sort of secondary, and now it's the reverse.

That certainly has happened in my business.

When I started way back with Politically Incorrect, everybody said, you know, you can't do a show where you talk, give your opinions as a talk show host.

You have to alienate half the crowd.

I was like, you know what?

I believe the crowd can take it, and they could.

But in those days, you're like Letterman, Leno, you know, Carson, they never told you their politics.

Now, we moved into an era, you know, Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart and John Oliver.

I mean, I'm not knocking them, I'm just saying that the Kimmel, the most important thing was to signal to the audience what your politics are.

You had to, and it was always scripted or not scripted, but it was like very predictably just whatever MSNBC was saying, I agree with 100%.

That was never my

fucking Microsoft media.

Well, whatever.

But like that, and the audience, you know, and of course, half the country was like, well, this is just insulting to me.

Whereas Leno, you know, never did that.

Leno just played it right down the middle.

He just like, I will make fun of everybody.

And that's in a different sort of way what I'm doing also.

I mean, I just

don't stop criticizing just because you're on the left part.

If you do something stupid, I'm going to call it out no matter where you are.

And, you know, if people don't pay attention, they don't get it, that yes, I still think the Republicans are more dangerous because, I mean, they don't really believe in democracy anymore and they're doing a lot of harmful things.

But, you know, I'm also not going to deny that Trump won because a lot of things did get way out of whack that he said, I'm going to correct.

You know, the border shouldn't be open.

DEI is out of control.

You know, universities are out of control.

He wasn't, he's not wrong about all those things.

I just don't agree with his method of addressing them.

But some of those things are going to be too far.

But we can talk about it.

You know, we should always be able to fucking talk about it.

So that's just what I wish people would take away from this podcast is don't hate people because you don't.

Some people glaze over.

There's no way.

Too many people glaze over.

And it's like, you know, maybe you're crazy a little too.

Anyway, it was great to meet you.

Great to meet you.

I'll let you go back to your young boyfriend and

your kids who probably are reaching that age where they're going to be

crazy things.

I'm sure you'll handle it.

I'm so glad we got to know each other.

That's why I love doing this podcast.

And I don't know.

Goodbye.

Goodbye.

All right.

Oh, my God.

Give me a big Italian.

My fucking asshole.

I'm sorry.

So hot.

Really?

I feel like it's delightful.

You do?

Yeah.

Fucking relax.

You're stoned here in your playroom.

Yeah, I got my bowling shirt on.

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