Stephen A Smith | Club Random with Bill Maher

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Speaker 5 The 600 players in the NBA were the best in the world.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you what the real problem was with the whole Bronnie James thing.

Speaker 5 It could take two seconds. Does this melon look right to you?

Speaker 1 Yes, my wife is dead.

Speaker 5 Well, look who's here.

Speaker 1 I'm in the house.

Speaker 1 And early. Yes, sir.

Speaker 5 I love that. It's good to see you, buddy.
Hope I didn't keep you you waiting.

Speaker 1 Not at all. I'm good.

Speaker 5 You're on Asian people's time.

Speaker 1 No problem. No problem.
How are you doing?

Speaker 5 You liked it so much the first time.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. They told me you wanted me back.
I was happy to come.

Speaker 5 Oh, I definitely do. Definitely say.

Speaker 1 You mind if I get, you know, because it's the only show I ever drink my head to see in Coco.

Speaker 5 Well, it's funny you say that because I look forward to this not only because I get to talk to great people every week, but it's the only drinks I allow myself.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 5 I got you. I got you.
You know, I mean, two drinks. I used to have that before I left the house.
That's right.

Speaker 5 And now,

Speaker 5 you know, you're on a short leash when you're older.

Speaker 1 Oh, well. You know what? You're aging gracefully.
That's what counts.

Speaker 5 Yeah. I mean, like, I think about what a guy like Aaron Judge is going through.

Speaker 1 How about that? The World Series he just had? Well, I love Aaron Judge, but my God.

Speaker 5 Not just the hitting, which can happen, but that the fifth inning with the fielding play. That's just gave it away.
And like the connection with money.

Speaker 5 Now, look, Aaron Judge seems like a really great guy.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 Handles everything well.

Speaker 1 Glad that.

Speaker 5 I mean, he's drinking somewhere now with Mayor Adams.

Speaker 1 Enjoy that while you can. They have to Mayor Adams now.
They're together.

Speaker 1 Just putting him back.

Speaker 5 Like everything was going so well for us. And of course, Aaron Judge will come back.
He's too great. And he had a great season.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 5 is the money worth,

Speaker 5 I mean, part of the reason why it's just horrible for people to accept is that you're getting so much money and you drop a routine flyball. Like, I bet you he thinks

Speaker 5 it's just,

Speaker 5 all the money in the world cannot make up for how bad I feel. I assure you.
How bad I feel for letting down the whole city.

Speaker 1 It's like talking to a diehard Yankee fan.

Speaker 1 I assure you, Yankee fans are not thinking nearly as much about that drop ball as we're thinking about the fact that in multiple playoff series in his career, he is batting less than 150.

Speaker 1 Listen, at the end of the day, he's paid to hit home runs. And damn it, if you ain't going to hit home runs, hit singles, hit doubles, and get on base.

Speaker 1 What you can't do is go to bat 39 times, strike out 19 times. And

Speaker 1 that can't happen.

Speaker 5 That brings me to, and you're a great one to answer this, maybe the best one.

Speaker 5 I think the way they do

Speaker 5 MVP voting is off because they don't include the postseason.

Speaker 5 To me, this is bullshit. It's bonkers.

Speaker 5 Clayton Kershaw, another one.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 5 MVP, who is actually most valuable? If you're actually putting your own money into the team and had to pick, you're going to pick the guy who also performs in the offseason.

Speaker 5 I would rather have a guy who had 35 home runs in the regular season. Yeah, it's got to be a guy who gets you there and then performs in the offseason.
That to me is actually most valuable.

Speaker 1 Let me counter that with this. I get where you're coming from.
I don't blame you for that. Points, counterpoint.
No, no, I don't blame you for it. Stephen A.
You ignore it slot.

Speaker 1 I don't blame you for feeling that way. Here's what I would say.

Speaker 1 You have a point,

Speaker 1 but the biggest point

Speaker 1 that supports your position is the fact that you wait weeks to award the MVP in the regular season.

Speaker 1 Damn it, if you're going to award the regular season MVP, the minute the regular season is over, before the playoffs begin, give them the MVP. Right.
All right, and then we're fine.

Speaker 1 Okay, now that was there because we don't want the regular season to be meaningless. So you want to solidify it.
You want to make sure you establish the supporters. Do it

Speaker 1 at the end of the regular season immediately. Make sure no awards are given when the postseason is done, when the postseason starts.

Speaker 5 I think we can agree on that compromise. I think it's a good example for America that's trying to bridge gaps right now.
And I think this

Speaker 5 is going to make America great again.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's going to be great. MVP voting right away.
Right away.

Speaker 5 But then

Speaker 1 another award for, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 5 Well, I guess they do have that. They have the most valuable player of the, but to me, it's of the whole team.
You know, the whole team right now is sucking Freddie Freeman's dick. Right.
Right.

Speaker 5 That's, you know, that's who

Speaker 5 really was the most, as much as they had OTAN.

Speaker 1 He showed up.

Speaker 5 Another guy who did not show up in the postseason.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but at least he hit a home run in game one. I mean, at least he got on base and stuff like that.
And And he showed up at points in the postseason.

Speaker 1 He didn't have, he didn't, he wasn't, he, he was, he was, he was not good for most of the World Series, but he had enough moments in the postseason where you know it wasn't a choke job.

Speaker 1 See, Bill, there's a difference between

Speaker 1 a choke job and, you know what, you're just in a slump or whatever.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're Aaron Judge and you smacking over 50 home runs every regular season and then every postseason, all of a sudden you stink, that's a problem. That is a problem.
That's a problem.

Speaker 1 But when you, but when you have your moments, then we can respect that.

Speaker 1 But you can tell the difference between somebody who's struggling and somebody where the bright lights are just too big for them.

Speaker 5 I tell you, the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 They did it, man.

Speaker 5 Yeah. But you know, the Otani signing, everybody went 700 million.

Speaker 5 That's crazy for one player, even as great as he is. And maybe he'll never even pitch again, blah, blah, blah.
But I think what they had in mind, and they look like they're right, is they were like,

Speaker 5 you know what? I think Japan is the new Mexico.

Speaker 1 How about that? And baseball is.

Speaker 5 And it's like one thing, if you like, if you have every team has a lot of Latin players on it, so it's not like a Latin player is going to go, oh, if I go to the Blue Jays, will anybody speak Spanish?

Speaker 5 Yes, every team has a,

Speaker 5 but, but Japanese? No. Like, once Otani was on that team, then Admiral Yamamoto

Speaker 1 came. And they got somebody else out there.

Speaker 5 And now they got the new great arm out of Japan because it's like, where am I going to go? Well, first of all, the West Coast is a lot closer to home.

Speaker 5 That's a direct flight.

Speaker 1 How about that? Tokyo. Weather's better.
What? Weather is better.

Speaker 5 Weather's better. There's more Asian people.
That's right.

Speaker 5 And there's some people on the team I can talk to.

Speaker 1 And the team you're going to has more money than everybody, including the Yankees at this point.

Speaker 5 And like the Dodgers are the team of Japan.

Speaker 1 Do you realize?

Speaker 5 They got the whole country of Japan.

Speaker 1 I sat up there and me being a Yankee fan, I'm like, do you realize this might be our last shot? We haven't won a World Series since 2009.

Speaker 1 And we are in a situation right now where we're looking at this Dodger squad because

Speaker 1 Otani deferred more than 90% of his salary. They have the money to go out and get Juan Soto from the Yankees if they want to.
They can afford them.

Speaker 1 They can afford them.

Speaker 1 I said, this is what a nightmare. This can't be happening.
But it is. The Dodgers, I think that

Speaker 1 the Dodgers are going to be in our more dynasty.

Speaker 5 To me, I think that was why it was such a smart play, that they had to get Otani because, again,

Speaker 5 they got a whole country. And it's not like there's going to be as many Latin players.

Speaker 5 You know, Japan is going to come up with a great player. It seems like maybe every year, every couple of years.
But, you know, they're probably going to go to Seattle,

Speaker 5 Suzuki, right?

Speaker 1 Wasn't East Seattle? Ichiro, yeah.

Speaker 5 Ichiro. And I mean, the Yankees had that, they had a great Japanese player.
Yes, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I got brain lock right now, but I know exactly who you're talking about. He pitched well for them.
Matsui, he pitched well for them.

Speaker 5 My mother used to pitch.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. No, I'm not talking about him.
I'm talking about the pitcher that they had. I keep forgetting his name right now.
I'm just trying. But Matsui was good, too.

Speaker 5 Matsui was very good. But I mean,

Speaker 5 it was a brilliant play, and it was that $700 million is paying off in that pipeline

Speaker 5 that they own. And other people, it's.

Speaker 1 And I not only pays for himself. It doesn't cost them the money that they're making because they have a ton of

Speaker 1 kids.

Speaker 1 People got to look at this. They talk about $700 million, $700 million.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 it's $700 million spread over 10 years.

Speaker 1 It's 70 million per. This dude walks to the ballpark.
In a week, they're making 70 million off of this guy.

Speaker 5 Not to defend billionaires, but like the average fan is like very angry, and I don't blame them, that a baseball game, which used to be something the common man could enjoy right is something so it's like Taylor Swift tickets yeah it's like Disneyland these things that are just so out of reach for the for the working people yeah I agree you know the whole election was about the Democrats lost the working people but why

Speaker 5 do they have to charge that much?

Speaker 1 They really, really don't.

Speaker 1 They really, really don't when you consider the television contracts they do, that they have as well. So you got to take that into consideration.
They're getting money from everywhere.

Speaker 1 They get money from it. There's no reason to charge them.

Speaker 5 They're paying it out in huge numbers. It's not like the game couldn't cost way less.
I'm not saying the players, look, it's free market capitalism.

Speaker 5 I'm all for it. But that's why, kids, the hot dog costs $12,

Speaker 1 whatever it is.

Speaker 5 It's because you're paying one guy $700 million.

Speaker 1 And parking costs $50 and a hot dog costs $16.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 that's the provenance of where the money is going.

Speaker 1 You love baseball? Of course.

Speaker 5 Do I not sound like I love baseball?

Speaker 1 Let me tell you this. I like baseball.
Here's what I hate about baseball, which is why it's never been my favorite. And I've told you.

Speaker 5 I'll tell you what I hate after that.

Speaker 1 I got to throw this by you.

Speaker 1 You want baseball to really improve and ingratiate itself, particularly with the younger generation on the come-up who leans more towards basketball and football.

Speaker 1 They did a good job with some of the rule changes that they played because it invited more athleticism, et cetera. You know, pitch, couch, no shifting, all that stuff, bigger bases.

Speaker 1 Stealing all the stuff. But they need to totally, totally, totally get rid of the intentional walk.
They did. No, no, no.
Excuse me. Oh, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 I don't mean, I'm talking about, I'm talking about, you don't put anybody on base. Oh, you don't.
You got to pitch to everybody. You can't do it.
Right. Great.
Love it.

Speaker 1 Listen. You're done.

Speaker 1 You're grown. You're grown-ass man.
Where's my rubber stamp?

Speaker 1 So I'm a grown-ass man. Yes.
I'm pitching. Yes.
Bill Maher's batting about 330 and he's coming up to the plate. Well, don't even bother guys.
You don't have to throw it to him. Bill, take your base.

Speaker 1 But really? But really, you're paying.

Speaker 5 But it'll just go back to what they used to do, which is just deliberately pitch for he can't hidden and say, well, I was trying to throw a strike.

Speaker 1 But I'm saying something different. I'm saying you're a professional.
Like, for example, you couldn't walk up to Randy Johnson. You couldn't walk up to Roger Clemens and these cats and go like this.

Speaker 1 Yo, walk him. You couldn't do that.
They look at you. You better get out of my face.
It's me against him. And I'll tell you why I feel this way, and I've never changed.
One of the rare occasions,

Speaker 1 you got the National League Against American League, and Barry Bonds came to Yankee Stadium. And I decide I'm going to go as a fan, and I'm going to roll up to this game.

Speaker 1 And you get stuck in traffic on the Degan Expressway in the Bronx, Cross Bronx Expressway. You pay $50 for parking.
You pay your hot dogs, your popcorn, your soda, all of this other stuff.

Speaker 1 You sit in there. They walked them.
It was driving me crazy. You wanted to see Barry Bonds hit.

Speaker 5 Every time they were there.

Speaker 1 You wanted that practically every time. And you just looked at it and you said, no, you don't get, you don't, you got to deal with Michael Jordan.
You got to deal with LeBron Joe.

Speaker 1 You got to deal with Kobe. You got to deal with Patrick Mahomes.
You got to deal with Tom. You don't get to

Speaker 1 avoid them. You got to find a way to defend against them.

Speaker 5 Okay, but again, I don't see how you can force people

Speaker 5 to throw a ball that they can't claim. Hey, I was trying to throw a strike.

Speaker 1 I agree with you. But what I'm saying is I've got 9,500 mile per hour fastball.
It's me against you. Let's go.

Speaker 5 All you can do is shame him into it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What? You can't strike out?

Speaker 1 That's exactly. And that's what I'm saying.
But that's not going to work.

Speaker 5 But Barry Bonds, like I always defended Barry Bonds. Like, did he take steroids? Of course.
You know, all the sluggers did in that era. I mean, it's a shame, but I also think it's a bullshit argument.

Speaker 5 I've had this argument with Bob Costas many times. Like, everything changes in the game.
You know, Babe Ruth didn't have to play against African Americans. That's right.

Speaker 5 And the Mitts were like literally little Mitts. I mean, Babe Ruth's lifetime batting average is 342.
If he played today, it would be 242. Or 290.
I don't know, but it wouldn't be 342.

Speaker 1 He's a big fat guy. I agree with you.

Speaker 5 You know,

Speaker 5 so the records don't bother. The steroids thing doesn't bother me that much.
And I remember Barry Buns once said, can't it be that I'm good? I'm just good.

Speaker 5 And like with or without the steroids, he was good on a level. That's where you go.
A few people were.

Speaker 1 That's where you'll go. Here's where I'll go.
This man was 30 and 30 before steroids. He was good for 30 horror and 30 stolen bases.
He was good to bat over 300.

Speaker 1 He was en route to the Hall of Fame. Then in 1994, when you stupidly canceled the World Series, Mark McGuire and Sammy Salsa returned and they revitalized the sport, 98.

Speaker 1 And I'm talking about this, Roger Maris's single season home run record. They did all of this stuff, right? And they just galvanized the American public back to the sport of baseball.

Speaker 1 And you knew they were juiced up, okay? And Barry Bonds is like, oh, so this is how y'all doing? Oh, really? So

Speaker 1 it doesn't really matter. So, you know, you're sitting up there because remember, in the Game of Shadows book and the excerpts that were displayed in Sports Illustrated, they said that Barry Bonds

Speaker 1 essentially was using it because of all the attention

Speaker 1 that Mark McGuire and those guys were getting. And he already knew without it, he was better than them.
So he said, All right, this is what you do.

Speaker 1 Well, let me show you what I'm going to do when I'm on it. And that's when he smacked 73 home runs.
You see what I'm saying? So he was like, this is what I bring to the table, right?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, wait a minute. So he comes out there and he does what he does.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 And you're saying it's because he was jealous of the attention that they were getting. And I say no.
It wasn't jealousy. He was saying, damn it, y'all supposed to know baseball.

Speaker 1 They couldn't shine my shoes. All they could do is hit.
They hit or struck out.

Speaker 1 They hit a home run or they struck out practically. He said,

Speaker 1 I was swinging on average. I was stealing bases.
I was a gold glover. I was good for 30 home runs.

Speaker 5 Seven time MVP.

Speaker 1 You understand? Seven time MVP. And y'all acted like y'all didn't give a shit about me.
Y'all thought they were better than me. Y'all were acting like they were better than me.

Speaker 1 And he said, I'm going to show you: if I use the same stuff they're using, this is what I could do. And sure enough, he did it.
And I'm like, what's the problem? What's the problem?

Speaker 1 And you're going to keep them out of the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 5 Everybody who acted like the players taking the steroids hurt them so much.

Speaker 1 They didn't hurt you.

Speaker 5 They hurt the guy who took the steroids. Their ball shrunk.

Speaker 5 Their mandible got enormous.

Speaker 5 Their heart probably got enlarged. It was not good it was not healthful.

Speaker 5 It was a deal with the devil, and it made it entertaining. Look, I remember that 98 race so vividly, the Mark Maguire, right, and Sammy Sosa.
Absolutely. And I have a vivid memory.
I don't know why.

Speaker 5 Chase the 61. I was in San Francisco,

Speaker 5 of course, with the girl.

Speaker 1 Damn right.

Speaker 1 And I just remember it would be wise.

Speaker 5 We were in a bar, as I always was in 1998.

Speaker 5 And I don't know where we were, but

Speaker 5 the TV was on in the bar. And I remember looking at the TV and seeing what happened.
I went, oh, wow, McGuire hit 58 and 59. And I remember her going,

Speaker 1 he didn't give a shit. Well, of course not.

Speaker 1 It was a girl in 1998. That's right.
Well, they do say chicks love the long ball, right? That's what they say all the time. That's what I used to say.

Speaker 5 And I remember thinking, like, you're so right. Sports is such bullshit.
I know it's your living and it's my pastime.

Speaker 5 And, but it is, it's like the things I could have done in my life with the time if I hadn't watched sports, which I for, you know, ask me who won the Super Bowl last year. I guess it was the Chiefs.

Speaker 5 Okay, I remember that.

Speaker 1 Two Toms Super Bowl champions.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 5 But year before that, I can Chiefs.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, that's right. They're going for a three-piece.

Speaker 1 Back-to-back. Yeah, going for a three-piece.

Speaker 5 All right. But now, before I forget, I want to tell you what I don't like about baseball.
And it's something you can change.

Speaker 5 But here's what makes baseball to me so frustrating and so different than every other sport. Okay.

Speaker 5 The element of luck is enormous compared to any other sport. In basketball, there is the occasional shot that's a shitty shot, but still goes in.

Speaker 5 I'm sure Don Nelson's one that broke Jerry West's heart and turned him into a caricature on that HBO show. I'm sure Jerry West went to his grave.

Speaker 5 I get that shitty shot that went back.

Speaker 5 But that mostly isn't what happened. You either make the shot or you don't.

Speaker 1 And if you make it. That's you in Finger Row, Indiana, missed it.

Speaker 5 Missed it. But mostly, if you hit it right, baseball,

Speaker 5 it's like 50-50 whether you will be rewarded or punished for doing the right thing.

Speaker 5 You sting the ball. It's a line drive, but it's right into the right fielder.

Speaker 5 And then you hit a shitty blooper.

Speaker 1 And it goes,

Speaker 5 you know, so like when you, if there was a way to reward, like, oh, wow, he got that pitch.

Speaker 5 The guy tried to throw a hundred mile an hour slider past him and he got it. And he got it right on the barrel.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I will say that.

Speaker 5 That's what fucks up baseball for me. I'm not getting rid of baseball for it, and you can't get rid of that.

Speaker 1 But I don't mind the luck element. It is a lucky sport.
I don't mind the luck element with sports. I mean, it comes with it.

Speaker 1 And I love baseball. No, I like baseball.
And I love baseball. You're right.
But I love baseball in person. Don't like it as much watching it on television.

Speaker 1 I love basketball either live or on television. I love football on television.
Hate it live.

Speaker 5 There's nothing like a court seat at a basketball game. Right.
Nothing.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 I mean, look, I've never been to a boxing match like close-up.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 5 I have.

Speaker 5 Maybe that's better.

Speaker 1 Yes. I mean, I bet you it is.
They're punching each other. Listen, I went to, I had to cover the Mike Tyson Andrew Galada fight years ago when he got out of jail.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, he was fighting in Detroit, Michigan. I was there for that fight.
I was there for the Oscar De La Joya versus Fernando Vargas fight. I'm talking about in terms of ringside seats.

Speaker 1 Last July,

Speaker 1 not this past July, but July before that, Terrence Crawford going up against Errol Spence.

Speaker 1 That was the biggest fight, one of the biggest fights. Dow was there for that.

Speaker 5 I don't even know these people.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, because boxers, because of the promoters, have messed up the sport. That's why you don't know enough about them.
Because Terrence Crawford is great.

Speaker 1 When we talk about a guy like Terrence Crawford, I need you to think about a Floyd Money Mayweather, a Sugar Ray Leonard, a Marvin Haglin, people like that.

Speaker 1 That's how great Terrence Crawford is, okay? And this was supposed to be a big fight because Errol Spence was an undefeated Walterweight champion, and Terrence Crawford slaughtered him.

Speaker 1 I mean, just took him to school and beat him like he stole something. And

Speaker 1 you know, and I don't say, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I love Errol Spence, but that was an ass kicking.
It really, really was.

Speaker 1 And when you see stuff like that, you know, Canelo Alvarez, Triple G. Sounds like what happened to the Democrats.

Speaker 1 How about that? And you know what? And yeah, that was an ass kicking.

Speaker 1 If we're being honest about it, it was a thorough ass kicking. Ain't no way around it, Bill.
Oh, right. I mean, you know more politics than me, but damn it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a blind man could see the Democrats got their ass kicked. Yeah, it was like, you know what? I like that analogy.
Democrats similar to Terrence Crawford Errol Spence Jr. Yep, that works.

Speaker 1 I mean, it is with that kind of ass kicking.

Speaker 5 It won't work on a lot of people like me who don't know who these people are.

Speaker 5 Why do you think it is that

Speaker 5 boxing became a sport that I was always interested in when it was Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier and even up to,

Speaker 5 you know, who got his ear bit off of Holyfield?

Speaker 1 Like I said, Holyfield.

Speaker 5 Tyson, Holyfield. And it's been years.
Is that because the UFC?

Speaker 1 Combination of two. Number one,

Speaker 1 and I love the fact that you made that analogy because the kind of ass kicking that the Democrats Democrats just received is similar to a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 5 What do you think they should do about it? The Democrats?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How about having some, how about, listen, I like Westmore, Mary, governor of Maryland, but you know, you have, to use your baseball analogy, you have no bullpen. Who is it?

Speaker 1 Trump's been the Republican nominee since 2016. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It is clear that that's who. Conservatives want in the White House.
Okay. That's who they supported.
They didn't give a damn about the 34 indictments. They didn't give a damn about two impeachments.

Speaker 1 They didn't give a damn about all the legal issues and the lawfare that the Democrats engaged in. They said, yo, that's who we want.

Speaker 1 This is the difference. And I said this to a lot of people, Bill.

Speaker 1 The conservatives said,

Speaker 1 we want that guy. That's who we want.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the voters decided who the Republican nominee is going to be. When you look at the Democrats, they didn't do it with Obama.
That's true. Okay.
They didn't do what? They greased the skids.

Speaker 1 This is the person we want. It's her turn.
It was Hillary's turn in 2016. All right, Bob.
But that's not Obama.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Obama earned it.

Speaker 1 No, no, that's why I said he earned it. But in 2016, and I'm not even trying to.
I mean, I voted.

Speaker 5 Hillary read in the primary.

Speaker 1 I'm not even trying to imply that she, but remember,

Speaker 1 they were complaining that Bernie Sanders had some momentum and was compromised by the Democratic Party because they were saying it was Hillary's turn.

Speaker 5 Bernie Sanderson's Bernie Sanders, I love him, but he's too far left and he would have been a bigger disaster than Kamala. That's fine.

Speaker 1 But what I'm saying to you is still an all, Bill. What I would, and I, shoot, it's rare that I disagree with you.
What I'm saying is the only thing I will push back on is

Speaker 1 that's fine, but that's for the voter to decide. And a lot of times the Democratic Party seems as if they've got their clause in the mix.
Take Biden, for example. Okay, so, you know.

Speaker 1 Clyde helps him get through South Carolina. He ultimately goes to the Democratic nomination.
He's the Democratic nominee for the president. He ultimately wins the election.

Speaker 1 There was supposed to be a red wave in 2022 in the midterms. The Republicans didn't pull that off.
And Biden is feeling himself and saying, I ain't going anywhere. I'm not going to.

Speaker 1 I told y'all I was going to be a transitional president. I told y'all I was going to be a one-term dude.
I'm just here as the stopgap, paved the way for the future of the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, he in office

Speaker 5 was a veritable John the Baptist.

Speaker 1 Just the guy who goes before. Come on, bro.
Absolutely. Bill, the point is, is that your ass was going to be 82 years old in the White House.
Come on now.

Speaker 1 I'll never forget this. Bill, I swear to you, I love your show real time.
I'm a huge fan. I watch it every chance I get.

Speaker 1 I have never.

Speaker 5 No, real fans watch it every week. You watch it every chance you get.

Speaker 1 I'm just fucking with it. Because I got multiple jobs.
But here's the deal, Bill. But I TiVo it.
I did that. But the DVR.

Speaker 1 The TVO. TVO.

Speaker 5 dvr i'm gonna send you a telegram about that

Speaker 1 you told him what's up here's the deal man i have never wanted to be on your show

Speaker 1 more than i wanted to be on your show

Speaker 1 when

Speaker 1 biden announced that

Speaker 1 he

Speaker 1 was gonna run for re-election because i'm like this what y'all gonna say now this is some straight bullshit you got a situation where you won you won the midterm you denied, you halted on, you warded off the red wave.

Speaker 1 And you, knowing you're going to be 81 at election time, knowing you're going to be 82 in office, right? It wasn't, I'm sorry, it wasn't the midterm.

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Speaker 1 And I saw these people. Remember, the liberals,

Speaker 1 when you call yourself progressives. Yeah.
Oh,

Speaker 1 so you're looking forward. With a dude that's going to be 82 and would leave office when he's 86.

Speaker 1 Really, y'all? I'm sitting there like, you got to be shit me. This is what you're talking about.
And I'm like, I knew I wasn't voting for Trump.

Speaker 1 I knew that wasn't going to happen, but I was saying to myself, what are you thinking? What are you thinking?

Speaker 1 And then I looked at them both in. They had no one.
That no one. That no one that could compete with Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 Well, not on a charisma level.

Speaker 1 Fair. Okay, fair enough.
But charisma is what gets you votes, bro.

Speaker 5 Absolutely. And I've said it a million times.
insanity photographs.

Speaker 5 It really does. I mean, it's charismatic.
But I have so many things that I must contend here with. Sure.

Speaker 1 One,

Speaker 5 one,

Speaker 5 you're an ageist. There are people who are completely crackling right at 82.
So

Speaker 5 it's always a case-by-case basis. Right, yeah.

Speaker 1 Nancy Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi don't have the problems that Biden have. I'm very supportive

Speaker 1 in terms of Nancy Pelosi, in terms of how short she is.

Speaker 5 I don't believe I'm an ageist nancy pelosi has lost a step in public also to be perfectly honest um but the job is never what you do in public the job is done in the oval office okay all you have to do is be that i never thought biden couldn't do the job the job is actually sitting in the oval office making decisions he's not crazy he hasn't lost his mind he's not senile he just can't do the public part he never could do it well and add the age thing and you're going to get things like, I killed Medicare or whatever the fuck he said.

Speaker 5 By the way, Trump, you know, no one has been harder on Trump or more against Trump, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 5 I don't have to establish my credentials, but he does do things once in a while that either make me genuinely laugh or make me genuinely go, oh, that's good.

Speaker 5 Like when he said in that debate, he once, well, he had a moment where he went,

Speaker 5 I don't know what he said.

Speaker 1 Exactly. And I don't think he said.
He's right there. And I don't think he knows what he said.
And I don't think he knows what he said. How did we crack it up? That's what people love about him.

Speaker 5 It's like he's crazy, but crazy people don't have the time to pretend about shit. That's why he can say shithole countries.

Speaker 1 You say

Speaker 5 as if nobody else ever said shit

Speaker 1 or thought that there were shithole countries.

Speaker 1 You say the time. I say the interest.
Like, for example, so you walk into Club Random, okay?

Speaker 1 Let me let the audience know what Club Random is.

Speaker 5 Well, there's no audience.

Speaker 1 It's a conversation.

Speaker 1 That's out there. That's watching out there.
That's watching out there. Yeah, they're watching it.
That's watching, yeah. That's watching, right? But it's no bullshit.

Speaker 1 You're going to have a real conversation. You're going to have a real conversation.

Speaker 1 You're going to have a real conversation. That's why I'm here.
I'm not wasting my time talking to somebody that's going to be a phony ass. I got to think about it.

Speaker 5 You're exactly the kind of guest I like.

Speaker 1 You understand?

Speaker 5 Because

Speaker 5 you don't ever pretend.

Speaker 1 No, I don't have any time for that.

Speaker 5 So let me ask you this. Sure.
I read your bio. Okay.

Speaker 1 You're black. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yes, I am, Bill. Yes, I am.

Speaker 1 I am a black male. I am, Bill.
I am trusting the research of my assistants. If I'm wrong about this, that is on them.

Speaker 1 Someone's going to lose their job. But that's what I read in the research.

Speaker 1 You're a black male. Right.
All right.

Speaker 5 So I was having this, you know, after the election, everybody's all talking.

Speaker 1 It's all they can talk about at dinner, at parties, even the Hollywood parties. By the way, I'm lucid.
I'm clear and all that stuff, but I got to contact her and I'm a little tipsy.

Speaker 1 But I'm all right, but I'm feeling great.

Speaker 1 I'm feeling great.

Speaker 5 You're loose of fur.

Speaker 1 I'm lucid. Okay.

Speaker 5 Okay. And by the way, are you sure you don't want pot?

Speaker 1 Because you, I tell you. No, no, no.
To me, your profile screams, I would love this drug. I'm not saying.
I will say this to you, Bill. I will tell you this.

Speaker 1 The day I smoked some pot, if I ever did it on camera, it would go viral. It would get about a billion views because as much as I've talked about staying off the weed,

Speaker 1 even though I've only geared that towards professional athletes compromising their money, the bottom line is I've said it so much over the years, it would go viral. But anyway, go ahead and see your,

Speaker 5 I gotta ask you this question.

Speaker 5 So, I'm at this party, and there's like a lot of, I'm not going to say the name, but what they would call bold-faced names, right?

Speaker 5 And of course, it's after the election, but this is Hollywood, and you know, I love Hollywood, I really do.

Speaker 5 I love

Speaker 5 living here, and I love show business.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 don't take it the wrong way. But the people here, they're loaded with talent.
They're not loaded with smartest person in the room. Right.

Speaker 5 You know,

Speaker 5 I'm not saying they're complete idiots.

Speaker 1 Some.

Speaker 5 And there are some very smart people in the business, some brilliant people.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 But mostly

Speaker 5 what they got was talent. So they're talking about the election.
Of course, they all want to talk to me because they're like, oh, that kid actually knows shit.

Speaker 1 Yes, you do. You do.
You do, Bill.

Speaker 5 You know, okay. You do.
So they're like, you know, of course they're all upset about Trump as if their life is going to change.

Speaker 5 Like, you know,

Speaker 5 let me tell you, for the last year, people have been coming up to me at the nicest restaurants in Hollywood because that's the only place I go because I'm a baller.

Speaker 1 You know, this evening.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 So we're just like, oh, Bill, what are we going to do

Speaker 5 if Trump wins? I'm like, you know what, you're going to do? Go back and finish your $900 dinner for four people.

Speaker 5 That's what you're going to do. Yes.
And your taxes are probably going to go down like they did the first time. And everything else, you could give a shit about.
They don't realize that.

Speaker 1 They make it hard on people like yourself and me

Speaker 1 who will vote liberal.

Speaker 1 But we're sensible. We're not extreme.
We're not extreme.

Speaker 5 That's why the election was lost.

Speaker 1 You woke. Now, you can't, now don't get me wrong.
Inflation, immigration, of course. But that woke culture, they took shit too far.

Speaker 5 You got to watch my show. I know you don't

Speaker 5 see it always. You have to see it Friday.

Speaker 1 Last Friday?

Speaker 5 No, this comrade.

Speaker 1 Oh, this coming Friday.

Speaker 5 Because my end piece is why I'm mad at the Democrats for just what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 I should stay for the damn show. Rather than flying out, I should stay.
I was planning on leaving Friday. Watch it first.
Come to the damn show. You would love it.
Just to watch it. Awesome.

Speaker 1 Just to watch it. You can hackle it.
Absolutely. You can yell at the screen.
I'll do it. I'll do it.
I'll do it. Now Trump's in prison.
Now Trump's rising. I can make that.

Speaker 1 Very rude, very nasty question. You didn't even say hello.

Speaker 1 I couldn't make that joke under Biden. Now I can make that joke.

Speaker 5 All right. So here's the thing.
Right. So there are all these, you know, white boys are talking to me about Trump and, you know, he's a terrible racist.

Speaker 1 And it's like, well, how could the black people vote for him more than each time?

Speaker 5 And, you know, they didn't vote for him a lot more, but men did.

Speaker 1 Men did.

Speaker 5 Okay. And I said, you know what? I don't want to speak for all black people, and this is where I need to tell you.
You tell me if I was wrong or right. Okay.

Speaker 5 I said, you know what I think black people think about Trump like is he a racist yeah but they think every white person is kind of a racist uh like and do they do they think that white people behind closed doors talk like Trump yeah he's just a crazy

Speaker 1 part right there that last part right there it's not that it's not he just says it out loud in person as as black people

Speaker 1 I don't want to speak for all black people, whatever. No, obviously I'm curious.
Because they're not all alike. That's right there.
Exactly. But I will say this to you.

Speaker 1 As, you know, being a black man, you don't look at white people and automatically think they're racist.

Speaker 1 You automatically know they're different than you, that they think different than you, that they come from a different cultural background and experience things differently than they do.

Speaker 1 So that second part is very, very important because when you talk about how Trump talks, we're going like this.

Speaker 1 So that's the first time he talked like that when he became president. Who the fuck you think you're playing with? We know better than that, we know better than that.

Speaker 1 We know that ain't the first time, and we know that the people that he was friends with all of these years he talked just like that around y'all, and y'all didn't have no problem with it.

Speaker 1 Don't act like you have a problem, and also had some genuine black friends

Speaker 5 and black folks who like him.

Speaker 1 Well, let me tell you this: I don't know if I told you because it's complicated.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I told you this complicated, I wouldn't call myself his friend by any stretch of the imagination back in the day, right?

Speaker 1 But I've told this on many occasions, I said this in my recent appearance on The View and stuff like that. Trump and I were friendly

Speaker 1 before he ran for president. He used to have these boxing matches, particularly during the Tyson fights at the Trump casinos.

Speaker 1 He would be at the Knicks games and stuff like that. And if we're being totally honest, all the brothers found him to be cool.
Right. They found him to be very cool.

Speaker 1 So let's be clear because he knew his sports. All right.
He could say what he feel. He bucked the establishment, which we loved, and we gravitated to that.
And obviously, he was a very good person.

Speaker 1 And also he was a certain age. And we

Speaker 1 had a certain

Speaker 5 understanding that men, white men of that age,

Speaker 5 they're going to be a little grandpa. We don't say that anymore.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 5 is he really like in his heart, like hateful?

Speaker 1 No, I think he. I never.

Speaker 5 I don't think his motivation is, I don't like black people. I think his motivation is, everybody must love me.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 And that's why, that's right there, what you just said. Everybody must love love me.
It's his name. It's exactly racism.

Speaker 5 I had his racism.

Speaker 1 I have never called him a racist. I have never spoken about him that way.
Ever. Not one time, not one time.
Because I knew him beforehand. And he called me in 2014.
This is a true story. He says

Speaker 1 Stephen A. had a secretary.
Mr. Trump is on the line, et cetera.
Gets on the line. He says, Stephen A.
I'm trying to buy the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The price tag was $1.4 billion.

Speaker 1 What year?

Speaker 1 2014. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 2013, 2014.

Speaker 1 The price tag was $1.4 billion. He had by $1.1 billion.
I was being told he wasn't going to get tea.

Speaker 1 He said, quote, Stephen A,

Speaker 1 if these motherfuckers get in my way, talking about the NFL owners, if these motherfuckers get in my way,

Speaker 1 I'm going to get them all back. I'm going to run for president.
That's what he said. And some NFL officials said, so it's our fault.

Speaker 1 later, they said, so it's our fault. And I went like this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because had he got an owner of the Buffalo Bills, he would have been an NFL officer.

Speaker 1 Right. But I bring that up.
Let me tell you the story. I bring that up because

Speaker 1 what I've tried to tell everybody, the Colin Kaepernick situation comes into play.

Speaker 1 If you remember, sports gaming hadn't yet been ruled on by the Supreme Court.

Speaker 1 That wasn't until around 2018. Interesting.
If you get a half a point, a half a percentage point, that translates into billions for owners.

Speaker 1 And Trump was making the case and hijacked the whole Colin Kaepernick fiasco

Speaker 1 just to get the owners back.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you what I know.

Speaker 1 Just to get them back, to get in the way of them.

Speaker 1 getting a hold of their money because they got in the way of him owning the Buffalo Bills. Right.

Speaker 1 And I said, yo, y'all, I'm telling you what I know. I said this on my show, first take on the SPN.
I said it on the airways all over the place. Every interview, I said, yo, y'all,

Speaker 1 he called me.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you what I know. He's going to get him back.

Speaker 1 And that's what it was about.

Speaker 5 It's fascinating. It's newsworthy.
And it's completely consistent with what we know about how he conducts foreign affairs. I mean, he had a call, supposedly.

Speaker 5 Putin denies it, but I don't know what that's all about.

Speaker 1 Like they're going to admit some stuff. we know about it.

Speaker 5 And Zelensky, and like

Speaker 5 he's probably not, he says he's going to get a great deal out of Putin. I don't know how he's going to get a great deal

Speaker 5 because

Speaker 5 Putin already knows that Trump has like a hard-on for Ukraine, all because of the same kind of petty grievances in the past.

Speaker 5 So that's, again, That is always the motivating thing, this sort of narcissism. I've said it a million times.
People talk about narcissism like it's some sort of quirk. It's not a quirk.
It's like

Speaker 1 serious when it comes to him. It's not, I keep trying to tell you.
If it was bipolar,

Speaker 5 people would be alarmed because that word, oh my god, it's it's similar.

Speaker 1 Let me make a little news here.

Speaker 1 Black people,

Speaker 1 minorities in this country that called him a racist, did him a favor when they did that.

Speaker 5 Interesting.

Speaker 1 They did him a favor because

Speaker 1 it galvanized his base to say, oh,

Speaker 1 we don't want to hear that.

Speaker 1 Look at the economy. Look at the borders.
Look at crimes in the streets of America. We don't want to hear that.

Speaker 1 And he's able to easily dismiss that because on too many occasions, you saw him on camera very comfortable with minorities. So because of that, the visual that you talk about,

Speaker 1 it played a role because he knew

Speaker 1 he had a portfolio of appearances with black folks throughout decades where you had no problem with him then.

Speaker 1 How all of a sudden are you going to bring up rent control issues in 1973? That's not going to work. That's not going to work.

Speaker 1 If you're going to bring up him in the 1970s when his daddy owned apartment complexes and minorities was in those complexes, then don't you have to bring up Biden and his relationship with Senator Bird?

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Who was who was from West Virginia, who died at the age of 97, that was in office until he was about 97, who, by the way, was a former member of the Ku Klux Klan.

Speaker 1 You have to bring that up.

Speaker 1 Don't you have to bring up, don't you have to bring up the 90s when you had the congressional black caucus and you're talking about the crime bill that Clinton pushed through that Biden was so vociferous about?

Speaker 1 You have to bring this stuff up that you're going to bring up Trump in the 70s. So I'm listening to people and I'm like, are you trying to win or are you just trying to make noise?

Speaker 1 Because he's going to get past this. That strategy is not going to work.

Speaker 5 But that is one of the big things Democrats should be looking in the mirror, as I keep saying, about is that they don't call out their own. And by the way, I've lost a lot of fans.

Speaker 5 I've gained a lot too. And I've lost a lot who just don't want to abide somebody who is making any sort of critique of the left.

Speaker 1 Sorry, this fell.

Speaker 5 Did you just fell?

Speaker 1 Sorry. Was that back there for years? I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Man, I got to tell you, man, as an aside,

Speaker 1 this is very comfortable. I love doing this, man.
I love doing this.

Speaker 1 I love doing this, man. I mean, this is the only time I drink on camera, man.
Me too. This is the only time I drink on camera.
We're birds of a feather. But, okay.

Speaker 5 But like, take for this, for example. Okay.
Doug M Hoff. Yep.

Speaker 1 Completely.

Speaker 1 Supposedly on the verge of being the first man. Yes, that guy.

Speaker 5 Well, not the first man was Adam.

Speaker 1 Well, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 He would be the first gentleman.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? First gentleman. They have a title.
My bad. My bad.
First gentleman.

Speaker 5 Yeah, first gentleman. Okay.
And, you know,

Speaker 5 someday there will be one. And there could have been one by now, but the Electoral College stopped Tillery.
I mean, she got more votes than him. So you can't say, oh,

Speaker 1 Americans wouldn't vote for a woman. They did.
They did. They did.

Speaker 5 They gave her the majority. 2.3.
She's not president because people hate women in this country. She's not president because of the Electoral College.

Speaker 1 Which, by the way, diluted Obama's argument talking to black men about Kamala Harris. Hillary Clinton got 2.686 million more popular votes than Trump.

Speaker 1 She lost the Electoral College vote, but she won the popular vote. In the case of Kamala Harris, it's like, wait a minute, what are you talking about? Misogyny, chauvinism.
I want to hear that.

Speaker 1 I don't want to hear that. I love Obama.
I love him. Voted for him twice.
Don't want to hear that.

Speaker 5 He's my favorite.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's my favorite.

Speaker 5 Because he's a practical centrist and a good man.

Speaker 5 And also, like, did the most difficult thing being getting elected the first black president and then like giving them nothing

Speaker 5 to like get him on zero? Like, when you know that they were looking so hard, and he had to be talk about like Caesar's wife.

Speaker 1 Hold on. I don't want to objectify anybody.

Speaker 1 That's easy to do when you got a first lady to look like that.

Speaker 5 Oh, stop it. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying. I mean, we clarify, right? We being real, right? Yeah, but I'm just saying.
You know,

Speaker 1 Michelle Obama is a beautiful woman. Yeah, she is.

Speaker 1 It's real easy to avoid giving folks ammunition when you're coming home to that lady.

Speaker 5 I feel like you're really overemphasizing that point.

Speaker 5 I mean, she's an attractive woman.

Speaker 1 But let me say that.

Speaker 5 And I don't think that made any difference in anything

Speaker 5 because I think there was some percentage of people who just did not like the idea of a black family eating off the good Chinese people.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to objectify the former first lady of the United States. What I will say to you is this, though.

Speaker 1 The backdrop of that, respectfully, the Gary Harts of the world, the John Edwards of the world, former presidential candidates on the Democratic side, whose dalliances, whose behavior

Speaker 1 I'm just saying,

Speaker 1 but I'm just talking about at that time before Trump, that derailed you from the White House. Right.

Speaker 1 See, Obama preceded Trump. That's the only reason I bring up Michelle Obama, because the thing that could bring you down, that could get you in the throes of controversy, was your behavior.

Speaker 1 And obviously, those individuals got themselves in trouble, and Obama didn't.

Speaker 5 John Edwards was fucking his filmographer.

Speaker 1 How about that?

Speaker 5 And there's a tape of him going down on her when she was pregnant.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 Because everyone loves to see a politician kiss a baby.

Speaker 1 That's a little bit.

Speaker 1 I got it. I got it.
I'm not going there. One of my favorites.
I'm not going there.

Speaker 5 Okay, but Doug M. Hoff, to my point about the Democrats, they just countenance no self-reflection or no critique of their own.
And that's why a lot of them hate me. And they go fuck themselves.

Speaker 1 Thank you for saying that.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because first of all, I was right. I warned them about trump first off more than anybody at the especially you were the first right before

Speaker 1 to warn this country

Speaker 5 about that he wasn't gonna and i was right and warned them about what was going to get him re-elected your stupid over-the-top wokeness right they hate that so and they just will not countenance any sort of self-reflection doug amhoff okay was credibly accused i'm not saying it's true we never know in these cases but was credibly accused during the campaign by a woman of being rough with her.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 If it was Trump, they would have been all over it.

Speaker 5 I mean, if it was any Republican.

Speaker 1 If it was any Republican,

Speaker 5 it's not that different than what Brett Kavanaugh or at least. And it's like, it just didn't.
And on Saturday Night Live, a guy plays Doug Emhoff, but he's just funny, kind of weird, nerdy Doug.

Speaker 1 You don't bring up any of that.

Speaker 5 You just don't. It's like nothing to see here because you shut in to only watch MSNBC.

Speaker 1 We'll never hear about it anyway.

Speaker 5 So we just don't. And it's like, you know, look what you got you.

Speaker 1 The only defense I have against that is that he wasn't running for office. She was.
So in that regard, fine. Trump is running for office.
He's not. It's his wife.
But.

Speaker 1 Having said that, the bottom line, had that been a Republican, you would have pounced. See,

Speaker 1 everybody would have pounds.

Speaker 5 And what is it?

Speaker 1 Listen, I know.

Speaker 1 I've known Sean Hannity for 20 years.

Speaker 1 Megan Kelly, I'm a fan of. And by the the way, I loved y'all conversation, y'all back and forth.
I have a lot of respect for Megan Kelly. I think that

Speaker 1 she's on it. She's smart.

Speaker 5 She's wrong about Trump.

Speaker 1 She could be wrong. But at least she's a fan of the city.
But

Speaker 1 she has a fact.

Speaker 5 At least she owned it. When I said to her, you know, we'll see if you guys theory that he just says shit.
We'll see if that doctrine comes true. And she didn't go, fuck you.
She went, yeah,

Speaker 5 you know, it's possible. Right.
And I appreciate that. Now, what I say to those kind of people now is, if it does turn out that his, he

Speaker 5 just says shit doctrine is more than just talk, will you admit it?

Speaker 1 Did you see what she said about you?

Speaker 5 Will you admit it?

Speaker 1 Did you see what she said about you, Megan Kelly?

Speaker 1 Because let me tell you what she said about you. She said basically the same thing you said about her.
Very attractive.

Speaker 1 She respected where you came from. She respected your position.
She didn't think that you were right, but it was a healthy debate, et cetera.

Speaker 1 Because to be honest with you, the kind of conversation you two had, see, I don't consider myself on that level because I'm not as knowledgeable about politics as either one of you.

Speaker 1 But I look at her and the conversation that she had with you, and I'm like, this, that's what the

Speaker 1 hell I want a damn presidential debate to be.

Speaker 5 First of all, I think you know what time it is. I do.
Time to go. No.

Speaker 5 But, you know, she's not really my type, but she's pretty hot.

Speaker 1 I like, I like, I, I, I, you know, I'm not, you know. I mean, she's not your type, whatever.
I mean, I like proposal Obama

Speaker 1 theory. It's like

Speaker 5 you can imagine that that political passion, if just somehow turned. Right.

Speaker 1 Big zero. How about that? How about that?

Speaker 5 And, you know. Use your imagination.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, you know.

Speaker 5 I understand.

Speaker 5 I think every man, no, maybe not every man.

Speaker 1 Not every man, but almost.

Speaker 1 Almost. Almost.
Knows that

Speaker 5 you can get a woman in a good mood with sex. Let's just put it that way.

Speaker 1 You know, If they're in a bad mood,

Speaker 1 or you could get them in a very bad mood if you don't handle your business. You got to get the job done.
I mean, I know. Let's just call it what it is.
You got to get the job done.

Speaker 5 Absolutely. If you pass out some weak shit, that's going to be a good thing.

Speaker 1 That's a rap.

Speaker 1 That's a rap. You got to handle your business.
You got to handle your business. I'm fully aware of this.

Speaker 1 I'm fully aware.

Speaker 5 No, that's something I learned in my 20s. Yeah.

Speaker 5 You know, in your 20s, it's hard to stop a hard-on from happening.

Speaker 1 But, you know, a couple couple of times you're like i was nervous or something yeah and i just did not perform well and like and let's close can we be honest and that was can we be honest was a rap can we be honest as man like there's no when you don't when you don't handle your business right no there's one or two things that happen you either don't you you're either not equipped enough to handle your business or you know you you you you're a bit fast you're a bit fast you're in and you're out you understand what i'm saying you don't handle your business and and either way does not work but the woman but if you handle your business yeah it's amazing the profound impact that you can have if you don't handle that is true if you don't handle your business trust me in the future you will be handling your business how about that you will be doing

Speaker 5 because i understand because the woman i'm saying the woman the woman in this question i'm not saying i would not make generic generalizations about all women no except for this one if you don't do it right the first time there is no second time this happened twice to me I don't need it to happen more.

Speaker 1 I'm not.

Speaker 5 You do not. And I don't blame them.

Speaker 5 They're like, why would it be better the second time?

Speaker 1 Maybe it would. We on Club Random.

Speaker 5 Actually, it would be better because I wouldn't be maybe so nervous. Or maybe I'd be like Aaron Judge.
I'd be like, oh my God. If I blow the World Series again, it's going to be even worse.

Speaker 1 We are on Club Random.

Speaker 5 Because that is true with athletes. Like the more the pressure, the more you suck, the more the pressure builds.

Speaker 1 I must confess. Right? I must confess, babe.

Speaker 1 It's only happened on a couple of occasions.

Speaker 1 But there were back to that European.

Speaker 1 There were a couple of occasions, Bill,

Speaker 1 where,

Speaker 1 dare I say

Speaker 1 I didn't handle my business.

Speaker 5 Everybody fails.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was like, yo, I mean, and the commercial came on and it was over. And the commercial was over, and I was done.
I mean, it was quick. I mean, Bill, it has happened, okay?

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 they were kind enough to give me a second chance oh really and and and wow i made it happen that that is true i mean i can't get i can't deny that it's it's i can't deny that you know you will get a second like i'm talking about not really being able to perform because whatever your nervousness or whatever just bug got in your dick but like

Speaker 5 there's a difference between that and like coming too soon when i was young i remember that happening that's been me almost a compliment right i remember once like having sex with a girl and then we watched our favorite show 59 Minutes.

Speaker 1 59 minutes. That's done in 60 seconds.

Speaker 1 I've never been that bad.

Speaker 1 I've never been that bad.

Speaker 5 That's some other comics joke. I can't remember who from back in my early days and

Speaker 5 it was a funny joke. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that can be forgiven because it's almost complimentary that you caught you yet.

Speaker 1 But you got to remember, Bill,

Speaker 1 as a man, you don't know if that woman is going to find that forgiving

Speaker 5 until she does. You don't know.

Speaker 1 So, as a result, you like praying, like, oh, God, I hope she give me a second chance because she's just going to go out and talk about it. Oh, he won shit.
You don't know. Yeah, he was terrible.

Speaker 1 You don't want that reputation.

Speaker 5 You don't know anything that they're thinking when you're young. Like now, if I talk to a girl in her 20s, I know exactly what she's thinking.

Speaker 1 She doesn't know what I'm thinking.

Speaker 5 But when I was that age. With the advent of,

Speaker 1 that's right.

Speaker 1 In our time, but with the advent of social media, you damn right you know what they thinking now hell yes in your 20s hell you know what they think in the teen in their teenage years it's bad out what you're saying because they put it all on social media because they put everything on social media yeah but are they being honest on social media okay that's fine but a lot of people believe they're being honest so when they talk about you what does it believe you stuck with the reputation i think what they're putting out on social media is just this sort of fog screen of the life they want you to think they're living or you know who

Speaker 5 it's just i mean that's one reason why that generation is so

Speaker 1 and it's and it's also convoluted because there are those of us who have social media accounts who have youtube channels who have podcasts etc we've done it we've been in the business we've accomplished what we've accomplished but it's convoluted by an abundance of people who haven't accomplished shit and are using social media to come across as if they have accomplished something and it's hard for the audience at times to dissect who's who unless they really really know you.

Speaker 1 They know Bill Maher. They know Stephen A.
They don't know a lot of people.

Speaker 5 But that generation, there's so many ways to be like rich and either sort of famous or famous for a minute

Speaker 5 by doing nothing. Crypto.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Influencer.

Speaker 5 You know, it's no wonder that none of these kids

Speaker 5 like really, you know, I guess this is, you know, because I live in L.A. and I see this sort of world of Nepo babies and trust fun kids when you're out.
Right.

Speaker 1 That, like,

Speaker 1 I loved your new rules on Nepo babies, by the way. That was fantastic.

Speaker 5 That's because that was about.

Speaker 1 And that was nice. Thank you.
You did a great job.

Speaker 5 I love that one. It started here in a conversation with Bob Costas.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 Bronnie James is the one who fucked it up.

Speaker 5 Because the point of it, for people who didn't see it, is that sports, the last place where you can have trust that it's not Nepo babies. Like everything else, even modeling now, Nepo babies.

Speaker 5 But certainly politics always was. Show business is rife with them.
Everything is Nepo babies except sports. You could always count on the fact that the best,

Speaker 5 the 600 players in the NBA were the best in the world, not just in America. And Bronnie James is not one of the 600 best players.

Speaker 1 Let me resp, let me, first of all, I agree with you.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you what the real problem was with the whole Bronnie James things. And I love this kid, and I love his mother.
Not against him.

Speaker 1 Not against him. His mama, his

Speaker 1 listen, LeBron James is one of the top two players in the history of basketball. He's on a Mountain Rushboard basketball.
He's absolutely amazing, okay? And a good dude as well. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let me explain where they messed up about Bronnie.

Speaker 1 LeBron James has done so much for this league. Him wanting the moment of

Speaker 1 being in in an NBA game with his son is not the crime. Here's what the crime was, Bill.

Speaker 1 You have that moment on opening night.

Speaker 1 At that moment, Bronnie James,

Speaker 1 you know you belong in the G-League.

Speaker 1 Go to the G-League.

Speaker 1 You know why you're here. Listen, this was important to my dad.
My dad is phenomenal. He's done so much to the game.

Speaker 1 And the one thing that he dreamed of having was me on a basketball basketball court for an NBA game with him.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, now that I got this moment, it's time for me to go and earn my stripes. I didn't earn it at USC because I wasn't there long enough.

Speaker 1 I'm a high school All-American averaging 14 points a game, which is better than most of us, by the way, but still, high school All-Americans usually are doing more than that.

Speaker 1 All Bronnie James had to do, and I understand that that's a lot of, that's a lot to put on a kid that's 19 years old or so, but all Bronnie James had to do was say,

Speaker 1 now it's time for me to go to the G-League, y'all. I got to earn my stripes.
Then a Bill Maher and others can't come out and say what they said. But because he was soaking it all in, right?

Speaker 1 And one game after another, you're traveling with the team, you're in uniform, and you're taking up one of those roster spots.

Speaker 1 Now it brings in the question the meritocracy and what was religiously associated with the NBA, which is why your point was not only on point because factually you were correct, but your timing was impeccable.

Speaker 1 See, you didn't wait. You know, it wasn't like six months late or anything.
No, you were right there, week one. Like, wait a minute, y'all.
Wait a minute now.

Speaker 1 Let's go. I think

Speaker 1 you were right.

Speaker 5 Two years ago. Yeah.
Well, before that. I even said in the piece, it's funny.
I even said in the piece, everybody wants to see Bronnie James in the league with his father.

Speaker 1 So you spoke about Bronny James two years ago. Two years ago.
I didn't know that, Bill. I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 That's when I did that piece. And I said, everyone wants to see it, but he won't make it unless he's good enough.
And then they fucked that up.

Speaker 5 And I even mentioned Doc Rivers' kid plays, but not because he's Doc Rivers' kid. But Austin Rivers was because he's good enough to be a road.

Speaker 1 He's good enough to be on an NBA.

Speaker 1 Austin Rivers was good enough to be on an NBA rocket. Absolutely.
Especially defensively. And coming out of Duke, playing at Duke, and being drafted, he earned no strikes.
No, he was an NBA player.

Speaker 1 He was an NBA.

Speaker 5 He was a superstar, but an NBA player.

Speaker 1 Yes, he was. Absolutely true.

Speaker 5 You know, so look, the 12th guy on the team, does he play anyway? No. But he just, it adulterated something that was pure.
And then the last thing that was pure.

Speaker 5 And by the way, I got to say, the Lakers,

Speaker 5 it made me just think the Lakers. First, they

Speaker 5 take a season where they just give it up to a farewell to Kobe.

Speaker 1 Kobe. Who earned it?

Speaker 5 Come on.

Speaker 5 Really? You earned the team giving you a season of because you had nothing else.

Speaker 5 But shouldn't you start

Speaker 1 trying to rebuild something else? What I'm saying, but they were cap-strapped.

Speaker 1 They had a lot of errors that they had made with the Jim Buss error because he was busy at Hooters instead of running the fucking team.

Speaker 1 But the point that I'm trying to make to you is that it looked bad, that was true. But in the same breath, every team, once they win a number of championships, ultimately decline.

Speaker 1 Because once that wears off, you don't get good draft picks. You're not in good draft positions.
You're not necessarily getting those free agents. So that was totally different.

Speaker 1 That was totally different.

Speaker 5 But you know what phrase I've heard enough of for a lifetime is

Speaker 5 I gave to the game. You know what? You gave to you.
No one's putting a gun to your head and making you. And you didn't play for free.

Speaker 1 And you did

Speaker 1 for free.

Speaker 5 Yes, you sacrificed your body. That was your choice.

Speaker 1 By the way, as an aside before I forget, you know who watches this podcast?

Speaker 1 Commissioner Adam Silver. When I was here last time.
He's been a long time ago.

Speaker 1 When I was here last time, he was the first call I received. No.
Once you posted the podcast, my last appearance, he was the first call I received. He loved it.

Speaker 5 There's a guy who watches every week, real time. He loves that.
No, I know. I love Adam Silver, and I think he's done an amazing job.
Yes. Yeah, he has.

Speaker 5 And it's not an easy job because players are very different than they were, you know, 20 years ago. Even coaches say, you know, you can't yell at this generation of players.
Right.

Speaker 1 I think you can. I think personally, you can.

Speaker 5 You better have a lot of stats.

Speaker 1 There you go. There you go.
You're Eric Spolster, you're Steve Kerr. You're people like that.
You can yell at players.

Speaker 1 If you're a coach with significantly less cachet, you better shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 You better tread lightly. Otherwise, it's going to be a problem.

Speaker 5 So Aaron Rodgers was here.

Speaker 1 Yep. But I don't know.
I love Aaron Rodgers, but he's having having an awful season. Awful.

Speaker 5 It's just as a

Speaker 5 huge Aaron Rodgers fan and Jets, too. I mean, when I was a kid, people always say, were you a Giants or a Jets fan? I say, we were both.

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't we be?

Speaker 5 We were in New York area.

Speaker 5 The teams. Why shouldn't I avail myself? We were thrilled when Joe Namath won it in 69.

Speaker 1 But it's a damn shame that they haven't won since 86.

Speaker 5 I learned football watching the Giants on my father's knee. If I had to pick, it would be the Giants first because there's a sentimental value.

Speaker 5 I took my father to the Super Bowl when it was out here in 86 against the Broncos in Pasadena, using like my last bit of checking account money to get him out here and get a ticket to that game and nosebleed seats.

Speaker 5 But he was a Giant fan since they were inception,

Speaker 5 practically. So, you know, but we had such hopes for the Jets.
And, you know, is it just that time caught up because they thought they had a great roster?

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers, respectfully, Aaron Rodgers fucked up.

Speaker 1 Here's how this happened.

Speaker 1 In Green Bay,

Speaker 1 he is spectacular. I think that Aaron Rodgers is one of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL.

Speaker 5 Fortime MVPs.

Speaker 1 As a talent. That's a lot.
That's a lot of MVPs. That's fair.
But. He hasn't been back to the Super Bowl since he won it in 2010.

Speaker 5 Yeah, not all his fault.

Speaker 1 So, of course not. Of course not.
But what I'm saying is, is that when you're in Green Bay,

Speaker 1 you're letting everybody know that the organization doesn't appreciate you enough. They don't appreciate your football IQ.
They don't appreciate your evaluation of talent.

Speaker 1 They don't appreciate your greatness that you've displayed at Lambeau Field on the football field for them for over a decade. And you say you've given every indication you want to be appreciated.

Speaker 1 You want to be respected. You want to be given the level of deference that others, to say Tom Brady's, the Peyton Manners, the John Elwoods of the world, and others, have received.

Speaker 1 And the Jets give it to you.

Speaker 1 And this is the result. Now, last year doesn't count because you got hurt the fourth player of the game.
The fourth player of the game. Yeah, yeah.
Game one of the NFL season.

Speaker 1 You can't control getting injured and all of this other stuff. But you've been there this year and your offense has sucked.
And oh, by the way.

Speaker 5 Why?

Speaker 5 What is it that they're doing?

Speaker 1 I think they had a defensive mind of Coach and Roger Salah that you didn't have an offensive mind and you deferred to Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 You deferred to what he said he needed, what he said he wanted, what he said would work, and then you went out and got your ass kicked. Now, that's where it hurts.
Now, if you had an offensive mind.

Speaker 5 Why doesn't Aaron Rodgers know? He knows as well as anybody. Like, he couldn't be an offensive coordinator in the league right now.

Speaker 1 You have people who believe, Bill, like

Speaker 1 you have producers and editors and stuff like that working on your podcasts and your shows. Yeah, you're the last say, but you're going to know how and when to be deferential.

Speaker 1 If you are somebody like an Aaron Rodgers, who was never in a position where anybody had to be that way towards you, and then suddenly you're empowered, now it becomes a bit tricky.

Speaker 1 Because ultimately, you want to make all the damn decisions. Now, he'll deny it, but nobody believes him.
Nobody believes.

Speaker 1 Like, for example, Woody Johnson, the former ambassador to Great Britain, by the way, under the Trump administration. Oh, so suddenly he comes back to the Trump.

Speaker 1 Suddenly he comes back to the New York Jets as the owner. He takes over from his brother, who he relinquished control to for the time that he was being the ambassador to the Great Britain.

Speaker 1 Suddenly he's going to come back in the folder. He's going to say, yo.
I'm going to fire Robert Salah without ever talking to Aaron Rodgers. Nobody believes that.

Speaker 1 Alan Lazard comes from Green Bay to the New York Jets. You had nothing to do with that.
Nobody's going to believe believe that.

Speaker 1 You think Devontae Adams coming to the New York Jets, all right, after not being there, depart from Green Bay to be with the Las Vegas?

Speaker 1 We know you had something.

Speaker 5 Plainly, Aaron Rodgers was playing general manager of the Jets. Without question.

Speaker 1 Okay. And that's where his legacy is going to be hurt.

Speaker 5 That's interesting. That's interesting.
So you're saying they gave too much power.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not saying they did because I would have given it to him, too. I'm saying once he got it, he messed up.
Like we got to call balls and strikes.

Speaker 1 At the end of the day, they weren't wrong for giving him the power.

Speaker 1 You were wrong with the decisions you made once you had the influence. The influence that you swore you deserved.
And once you got it,

Speaker 1 you didn't produce results.

Speaker 5 Boy, being an athlete's like being a hot chick. I mean,

Speaker 5 it goes fast.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 5 you have your peak where all the guys are buzzing around you.

Speaker 1 What? I got to admit to you, bro.

Speaker 1 I see some honeys out here that's in their 50s looking better than honeys in their 20s and 30s i can't see that bill ridiculous but okay that's not ridiculous it is ridiculous well there are some

Speaker 5 some sisters i i'm gonna speak for i'm i'm gonna speak for some of the black women out here maybe in the picture in us magazine but come on let's get real this is club random i mean the corruption of the flesh happens to us all yes we're just not as physically attractive in our 50s as in our 20s bill in our 20s you have to almost work to not be can i ask you a personal question Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 Can't you pressure?

Speaker 1 Do you?

Speaker 1 I mean, we on club random, right? We got club random. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you like voluptuous women? No. You don't? No.

Speaker 5 Really? No. What's wrong with you? Why do I under oath?

Speaker 1 No, I don't.

Speaker 1 I have a different. I mean, I gotta take a drink on you.

Speaker 1 What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? I mean, hips, thighs, legs. All right, I'll say it.
I'm white. Okay, so you like them real thin.
You like them real thin? I like it.

Speaker 5 I like what they call an athletic body, swimmer's body.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 I mostly fuck small boys.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
That's ridiculous. I'm just saying to you, I'm not saying most because you're absolutely right.
For the most part, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 But I got to tell you, there's some women out here in their 40s and 50s that look better than they looked when they were in their 20s and 30s.

Speaker 5 To you. Everything is to you or to me.

Speaker 5 But I find that ridiculous. I mean,

Speaker 1 certainly not something.

Speaker 1 I wish I could put them on front so i could show the evidence

Speaker 5 i have evidence bill evidence i i i i evidence i've seen your evidence i know you got a hard on for michelle obama and it's great that you have your thing because no you got a hard on i mean she's well i mean i'm just saying she's a beautiful woman she's a beautiful i agree um but uh you know they picasa used to sleep with very young women and you know they tried to come after him about that they should have and his i'm sure they should have if they were underage but his response was i'm an artist artist i think i know what beauty is okay right get out of my studio right

Speaker 1 and you know look i look at pictures of myself when i'm younger i'm better looking i'm sorry i can't pretend i will say this to you for me can i speak about me personally i definitely feel that way about me in my 20s Me in my 30s in my 40s, I think I look better now than I did then.

Speaker 1 But you know what? And then I looked over the last 20, 25 years.

Speaker 5 You're the luckiest guy in the world. I'm very lucky.

Speaker 5 if you i'm very lucky if you like women in that age range because you're getting the best of both worlds yes yeah if you find them the most attractive yeah they're also like of course yeah easier to deal with usually because they're more world world seasoned smarter

Speaker 1 older women yes i don't and they're oh we don't just we don't agree on that they're not i mean i will accept the fact they're not smarter

Speaker 1 no no they're definitely smarter

Speaker 5 i'm talking about the easier to to deal with oh hell to the no well not if you get hell to the no i mean easier to deal with in the sense of like girls who are 20 are like you know my pussy is golden and girls are 50 are like are we gonna do it or what i find and but but but you missed it

Speaker 1 here's what you messed up here's where you messed up you missed the 30s and the 40s where they do think it's golden like ain't nothing better than this okay and it's like you do understand there's there's a billion out there that that that that that that that that could potentially be better you do so you never got married right never me neither never we're like the last two i will say to you that eventually i think i will um because it's it's it's it's more than being single and being able to

Speaker 1 you know sex whoever i want i'm i'm beyond that i'm beyond that i've had my promiscuous years

Speaker 1 um and they were lovely yeah and i must say kick why do they have to ask let's get the toast to that Let's get the toast. Why do they have to?

Speaker 1 It really, really was lovely. And I can say that respectfully because I wasn't a liar.
Just a bite of lovely.

Speaker 1 I wasn't one of those dudes that was a liar.

Speaker 1 I would let somebody know: look, this is where I'm at.

Speaker 1 If you're with me, this is what you get. I was the same way.
I'm not that dude.

Speaker 1 But I would tell you.

Speaker 5 I don't know why we have to bury Lovely.

Speaker 1 But I will tell you that, you know, when you get older. Yes.
You know, there is something to be said about,

Speaker 1 you know, that companionship, that person that you want to be around. I'm very different.

Speaker 1 And here's the biggest thing for me. And I don't know whether you agree with me or not, but I'm interested in hearing how you feel about this.
Bill,

Speaker 1 to me,

Speaker 1 and I had to tell my little nephew, his ignorant ass, because he just doesn't know anybody. He's clueless, but I'm here for him.
He's about 35.

Speaker 1 My nephew, Josh. Oh, I thought he was picturing a tenant.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's ignorant as shit. But I love him to death.
He's like a son to me, but he's my nephew.

Speaker 1 And I'm like,

Speaker 1 here's what happens.

Speaker 1 You get to a point, and I say to him, forget the woman that excites you.

Speaker 1 It's the woman you're comfortable being bored with.

Speaker 5 I could not disagree more.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. You really feel that way?

Speaker 5 Not only I feel that way, I feel like I've learned that lesson the hard way. Okay.

Speaker 5 You can pretend that that's the thing. Like, I remember when I got to a certain age and I thought, oh, yeah, you know what? You know, I'm not like have needing to have sex like 24-7 anymore.

Speaker 5 You know, and sex is great. But like, no, I could be a thousand years old.
And even if it's just one minute a week, it's still water flows downhill. It's just the heart wants what it wants.

Speaker 5 I don't know. I agree with that, Paul.
It's just the glue that holds things together.

Speaker 5 And for me, anyway, I mean, when you don't have the glue, I've told this story before, but I said to a girl once, you know, it's like the relationship is the plane and the sex is the fuel. Hold on.

Speaker 1 Let's not just, let me not mess up with your audience by acting like I was talking about sex being boring. That is not what I was talking about.
I'm not talking about the sex.

Speaker 1 The sex got to be what it needs to be. I'm talking about.
You upstairs watching Law and Order.

Speaker 1 She's downstairs watching

Speaker 1 whatever. Sure.
It doesn't matter to you.

Speaker 1 You don't have to be

Speaker 1 under one another. You see what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 The sex has to be good. There has to be a level of compatibility.

Speaker 5 That's when you should be under one another.

Speaker 1 But I'm just saying you don't necessarily have to be all excited by her 24-7

Speaker 1 outside of the bedroom.

Speaker 5 That's true, but that's why I've never really lived with anybody or thought that was a great idea because I feel like I don't want to see people at their worst and I don't want them to see me at my worst.

Speaker 5 Like a lot of life is disgusting. The bathroom, I could go on.

Speaker 1 Excuse me for asking, how many siblings do you have? One. Okay.
I have five

Speaker 1 four older sisters. So when you talk about not seeing them at their worst, I grew up accustomed to see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 5 yeah, but I grew up also like smelling other people's shit. We had one bathroom that we all used.

Speaker 1 You know, it's like, you know, it's, it's a, it's, it is.

Speaker 1 My mother was like, Mother Teresa, let aunts, uncles cousins and stuff like that come live with us and stuff even though we only had one working bathroom so i've seen women without makeup the hair's not done and i don't it doesn't phase me my whole point is this when we go out are you ready i'm not saying are you ready i'm not saying going into a bathroom after someone else has just taken a is the worst thing in the world yeah but it's pretty close exactly yes

Speaker 1 it's pretty close it took the words right out of my mouth

Speaker 5 it's just about the worst thing ever.

Speaker 1 It's pretty close. Yeah.
It's pretty close. But I'm just saying for me personally, it's like as I've gotten older, you know, and I'm happy about it, Bill, because here's what I don't want.
I'm 57.

Speaker 1 How old are you?

Speaker 5 I'm 35.

Speaker 1 Okay, yes, sir. Here's my deal.
I don't want to be one of those dudes in my 60s.

Speaker 5 Me neither. At the club.

Speaker 1 At the club. At the club.
Hoping, praying that I want to know. No, I don't want to be that dude.

Speaker 1 I like the fact that you're going to be a dude.

Speaker 5 That's why you have to be a success in life. That's right.

Speaker 1 Because otherwise, you have to

Speaker 1 be at the club. That's right.
Because when you come to you. When you're successful, they'll come to you.

Speaker 5 You don't have to go to the club. To a degree, that's true.
Like, there's a certain point in life where I think it's very fair to say, I've been chasing girls all my life.

Speaker 5 Now it's time for you to chase me.

Speaker 1 I don't chase. Exactly.
I don't chase. Right.
You can't.

Speaker 5 First of all, if you do, you just look bad. Yeah.
You can't chase.

Speaker 1 I'm not doing that. Our age.
I'm not doing that at all.

Speaker 5 It's just unseemly. No.

Speaker 1 Hello, how you doing? You look very, very beautiful. I hope you have a wonderful day.
Keep it moving.

Speaker 5 Well, that's kind of chasing.

Speaker 1 That's not chasing. Maybe not.
That's not chasing. Maybe not.
Well,

Speaker 5 once you say beautiful, you're kind of hitting me.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, no, not at all. You're putting it out.
Not at all.

Speaker 1 I've seen women who are bad. They had a ring on their finger.
When you say it to their marriage, if you wouldn't say it to a man,

Speaker 1 if you wouldn't say it to a man, it's flirting.

Speaker 1 I'm not a homosexual, so I wouldn't say that to a man.

Speaker 5 Again, this is not what I read in the bio.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, please.
You damn sure should have. But I'm just saying, no,

Speaker 5 am I getting bad information?

Speaker 1 Oh, you damn sure didn't read that in the bio. But I'm just saying to you that I have no problem being, I've been complimentary to many women I've had no interest in whatsoever.

Speaker 1 I'm just like, yo, you're the nice outfit. You look good, whatever.
Keep it moving. You keep it moving.
That's no big deal.

Speaker 1 But I'm not, I can tell you this much. I don't give a damn how fine you are.
I have stopped, I stopped chasing more than a decade ago.

Speaker 5 Well, let me tell you, if your thing is women in their 50s and you put it out there.

Speaker 1 In your 50s, 40s.

Speaker 5 Who you just said.

Speaker 1 50s, 40s, 40s. I'm telling you.
I got flexibility.

Speaker 1 I got a girl, so I'm good. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Let me throw that out there.

Speaker 5 Right. But by the way, that makes you even more attracted to them.

Speaker 5 That's right. One thing women hate is a guy who doesn't have someone who they have to get rid of.
Two things.

Speaker 1 Two things. That.
You're right on the money, no matter what they're willing to admit. Here's number two.

Speaker 1 I have two daughters. When they were younger, they're teenagers now, 16 and 15.
When they were younger, oh my lord, Bill.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 all I had to do was walk in a supermarket or a mall with one of them. It was a rap.

Speaker 5 Pussy, pussy, pussy trap, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I couldn't believe it.
I was like, people, this is really true. This is really true.
I walked in there with my daughter. It's like...

Speaker 1 A magnet. Better than a dog.

Speaker 5 Absolutely. Even better than a dog.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 5 I'm not saying that's a reason to have kids, although, but

Speaker 5 yeah, there's only one thing that could make you more attractive than having your daughter in the supermarket. The wife dead.

Speaker 5 If you were a widower, because that shows that you can commit, but you didn't leave her.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but here's the problem with that. Well, there is a problem with that.

Speaker 1 No, no. The conversation has to take place for the person to find out you're a widower.

Speaker 1 With the child, you don't have to have any conversation.

Speaker 5 It could take two seconds. Does this melon look ripe to you?

Speaker 1 Yes, my wife is dead.

Speaker 1 They will not be offended by that. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 You might be right, Joe.

Speaker 5 Does this parsley look fresh?

Speaker 1 My wife is dead.

Speaker 5 That's all you got to do.

Speaker 1 Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I got a buzz and I'm, you know, I've been drinking, but go ahead.

Speaker 5 No, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 5 You want to go?

Speaker 1 No, man. I'm good.
I'm straight, man. I'm straight.
I'm having a good time.

Speaker 5 I got about 10 more minutes in me before I go to P.

Speaker 1 True. Same here.
Same here. I mean, I got a piss right now, but I can hold it for the next 10 minutes.

Speaker 5 What did we not get to?

Speaker 1 Do you think? Politics. I don't think we got to enough politics.
Great. Politics.
That's your lane.

Speaker 5 That's my lane. That's right.

Speaker 1 Democrats fucked up.

Speaker 5 My candidate that I voted for did not win, same here. But that's happened before.
Same here. And

Speaker 5 I'm like reading the Riot Act Act to the left this week, and I'm thrilled about it. Then we have another show, one more show after that.
That's the end of our season.

Speaker 5 So we're doing show Friday, the 15th, and then the 22nd.

Speaker 5 So I'm going to hit the left hard this week, just which I think is absolutely apropos to say. I completely agree.
Because I see, you know, I mean, look, there's a lot to hate already.

Speaker 5 about what the other new regime is doing. I mean, some of the appointments are pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 What is it Hag said?

Speaker 1 Spot Snooze, the Defense Secretary.

Speaker 5 Can you take a week before you get apoplectic about what they might do to talk about what you did do

Speaker 5 or didn't do, how you fuck this up? Because my point at the end of this thing, Friday, is that I'm pissed at the Democrats because

Speaker 5 my issues, democracy, the environment, have no protectors now. Because you blew the election.

Speaker 5 I have nobody, nobody standing up for the two issues that are my issues, which is democracy and the environment. It's my two most important issues.
Those are not priorities in the new administration.

Speaker 5 In fact, they're antagonistic to both of them.

Speaker 5 So I have no champion in Washington. They have the courts, they have the House and the Senate.

Speaker 1 And you totally left me unguarded.

Speaker 1 Here's my issue.

Speaker 5 I don't follow hockey, but there's probably a goalie analogy.

Speaker 1 Here's my issue, generally speaking. We can talk to the economy, immigration, crime, and the streets, blah, blah, blah.
Here's my ultimate issue. The arrogance of the Democratic Party.

Speaker 5 That's I'm saying the same thing.

Speaker 1 Arrogance of, we're

Speaker 1 saying the same thing in two different ways. The arrogance of the second Democratic Party.
So

Speaker 1 Biden doesn't decide to run for re-election.

Speaker 1 You grease the skid so he doesn't have to go through a primary. June 27th, he shows up and he embarrasses himself.

Speaker 1 and positions naturally for the vice president of the United States, Kamala Harris, to ultimately ascend and become the Democratic nominee.

Speaker 1 But the last time we saw her in a primary, she couldn't make it to Iowa.

Speaker 1 Did you really, really think that was going to work? And then here's what you did.

Speaker 1 Did you discuss the economy enough? No.

Speaker 1 You could have discussed the border because unlike Obama, who was quote unquote, the deported in chiefs, according to the Republicans, because he deported more immigrants than Trump did.

Speaker 5 According to not just Republicans,

Speaker 1 there are Democrats who call it. He deported more immigrants than Trump, which means he just didn't talk about it, but he did it.

Speaker 1 Biden walks into office and day one, you sign an executive order that opens the border, and you let more than 12 million immigrants cross the border illegally, and you don't think that's going to be a problem?

Speaker 1 You knew that the governors DeSantis and Florida, Abbott, and Texas, and others were going to sit up there and attack sanctuary cities by busing these immigrants to your city since you had no problem with it.

Speaker 1 You were ill-prepared to deal with it, okay? All of this stuff was going on. And I'm looking at it and I'm saying, so your plan for this election

Speaker 1 was to come

Speaker 1 to women and say, forget the economy, forget immigration. Roe v.
Wade was overturned. It's now a state's right issue as opposed to a federal issue.
You thought that was going to be enough?

Speaker 1 You thought it was going to be enough for you to look at black men and say to black men, you're misogynistic and chauvinistic, and that's the reason why you're not voting for Conala Harris.

Speaker 1 You thought it was going to be enough for the Latinos to bring up immigration when you're not paying attention enough that the Cubans think different than the Dominicans, and the Dominicans, and the Cubans think different than the Colombians, and they think different than the Venezuelans and the Guatemalans and the Puerto Ricans and the Mexicans, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 A lot of these Latinos in America want want the borders closed. You didn't pay attention to that? You're from California.
You were a district attorney here. You were a state attorney general here.

Speaker 1 You were a senator representing here. And you didn't know that the Latinos were going to say, yo, we don't like open borders.
You didn't know that?

Speaker 1 And so I'm looking at it and I'm saying, all of these things are going on.

Speaker 1 All of these things are going on.

Speaker 1 And your argument essentially was, was, you didn't say it, but this is essentially your argument. It's her turn.

Speaker 1 It's her turn. No, the Republicans don't play that.
They say,

Speaker 1 hell with all of that, whose turn it is. We want him.

Speaker 1 Who do the Democrats want? If you ask them today, they still don't know. They said Kamala because it was too late to say anybody else.
But you didn't know who they would say.

Speaker 1 If there was a primary.

Speaker 5 And also because the Democratic Party is ideologically captured by identity politics.

Speaker 1 And I'm totally with you 1,000%. Listen,

Speaker 1 I'm a big,

Speaker 1 Bill, just so you know, I'm a fiscal conservative. I'm a social liberal.
Live and let live, bro.

Speaker 5 And I'm freaking the sheets.

Speaker 1 You're so sheep.

Speaker 1 If you're fifty feet, I do try. Give us a goal.
I do try. I do try.
I do try, no doubt. But here's the deal, man.
Listen. I'm a social liberal.
And what I mean by that is gay rights, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Transgender rights and all this stuff. I got no issues with you.
I don't want anybody, I'm a black man. I don't want anybody civil rights violated.

Speaker 1 I don't want anybody being persecuted in the streets of America. I don't want you being mistreated.
I don't want you being denied the same rights that I have. That's fine.

Speaker 1 But the Democrats took it too far because it wasn't just about their rights. You wanted folks to like and embrace and accept everything.
Excuse me. There are some people that guess what?

Speaker 1 They might watch prostitution, but they ain't fucking with them.

Speaker 1 They might like, they might like porn stars, but they ain't messing with them. They might like strippers, but they ain't messing.
It's all right. Yup,

Speaker 1 do you?

Speaker 1 But I don't want it in my face. You got people that think like that, and knowing that that's the reality, and knowing that that doesn't even make up 1% of the population.

Speaker 1 You are caught on tape if you're Kamala Harris saying, quote,

Speaker 1 I'm for transgender operations for prisoners. You didn't think Trump was going to use that?

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, like, this is why I say I voted for Kamala Harris, but I can't deny that strictly from a campaign perspective, Bill.

Speaker 1 He was the better candidate because he played to his constituents.

Speaker 5 In their defense, they had a meeting and they decided that free tits for murderers was a good slogan.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And where did that get him? Because in the end, when you're trying to pay your bills.

Speaker 5 Okay, but here's the, here's the, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 And you got peace in the streets that you worried about. You're not going for that.

Speaker 5 Here's the silver lining. You're trying to win.

Speaker 5 The election showed we're much less racially tribal than we thought we were. I mean, Trump is a strange guy to bring together all these different coalitions,

Speaker 5 but you know, he like won Latino men.

Speaker 1 13%.

Speaker 1 They said it was a 13% jump.

Speaker 5 Oh, okay. Well, whatever.

Speaker 1 And a 5% jump in a black vote, and even more of that amongst black men. That's what they said.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 And it did better, you know, young. I mean, I mean, just like

Speaker 1 we're not really

Speaker 5 divided so much along the lines that the media paints us in.

Speaker 1 Right. We're more of a centrist nation.
The fringes on the MAGA right and the extreme left, the squad, and all of that, those are the fringes. Most of Americans are center left or right.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and most Americans are just anti-crazy. Right.
You know, I mean, I have a line in the thing I'm doing on Friday that Democrats run campaigns now like the voters don't live here.

Speaker 5 Like they don't live here. And like they, they don't like go to Starbucks and the office and the store, you know, like, and they do.
And they see women and people of color.

Speaker 5 And it doesn't look like a racist patriarchy, patriarchal nightmare. It doesn't look like that.
And so if that's what the Democrats are selling, it just...

Speaker 1 They don't know what the hell they're selling. What they want to do, and listen,

Speaker 1 I'm just going to say it plain.

Speaker 1 The Democrats have gotten on my last damn nerve.

Speaker 1 If it wasn't for Trump, I would have voted Republican because I'm so sick of how they are.

Speaker 1 It's always about the other side and engaging in demagoguery for you to get my vote, as opposed to really articulating what you're bringing to the table to offer me

Speaker 5 and my community. And they're snobby.

Speaker 1 And they're snobby.

Speaker 1 They don't cater to the working class. They cater to the elite, and then they accuse the Republicans of doing it.

Speaker 5 They won't even listen to them. There's a lot of stories now in the news about people who have been saying in the media.

Speaker 5 There was this Yale psychologist who said it on CNN, I think, that, or maybe it was MSNBC, that

Speaker 5 if you have a relative who voted for Trump, cut them off. Don't see them for the holidays.
Don't see them for the holidays.

Speaker 5 That's your, that's your, this is what got you into this mess. Exactly.

Speaker 5 You know, take the clothes in off your nose and talk to the other side of the country because you don't have a monopoly on being smart. In fact, I could prove how stupid you were.

Speaker 5 Educate a million things and you wouldn't even talk to the other side.

Speaker 1 You know, educate me about this.

Speaker 1 I've held this against the Democrats for years and I've said it publicly. So let's go to Ruth Bada Ginsburg.

Speaker 1 Obama is in office.

Speaker 1 He's there. You know, he's going to select a liberal to be on a higher court.
You know this.

Speaker 1 According to the reports, if they're wrong, I apologize. But according to the reports, Ruth Beta Ginsburg, former Supreme Court justice, who was approaching her 80s, if not in her 80s,

Speaker 1 who had health issues, cancer being one of them,

Speaker 1 okay?

Speaker 1 didn't want to step down at the behest of the Obama administration because she wanted her successor to be selected by a female. Now, let me say this, Bill, okay?

Speaker 1 The Democrats lose me when I never hear them mention that. And here's why.

Speaker 1 Respectfully to this former great Supreme Court justice who did a lot of good.

Speaker 1 You put your own personal preferences against the interests of the country, according to you and your ideology, what you believe would best serve this country because you said

Speaker 1 you assumed arrogantly i might add hillary clinton was going to beat donald trump and that when hillary clinton failed to beat donald trump because he got more of the electoral college vote than the popular vote okay

Speaker 1 the court was able to be swung 6'3 instead of 5'4.

Speaker 1 you did that They never talk about it. They never talk about it.
I'm like, wait a minute, y'all. All she had to do was was retire

Speaker 1 and let the liberal president select the Supreme Court justice. And because you didn't do that, not only is the court swung 6-3, it's on the verge of swinging 7-2.

Speaker 1 Because now you got people saying Sonia Sotomayor is going to step down because she's had health issues with diabetes. She's in her 70s.
She's 70 years of age.

Speaker 1 And now that's, listen, you had one pundit literally advocate

Speaker 1 she should step down now yeah so biden could insert the liberal another liberal into the court that's going to be there for years to come this is what you've regressed to purely for arrogance nothing else

Speaker 5 obama did have ruth bader ginsburg for lunch when she was supreme court justice in a kind of a you know wouldn't it be great to spend more time with the grandkids kind of way how about that you know he didn't try yes he did move her along.

Speaker 1 I'm not blaming him. I'm blaming her.

Speaker 5 I called Biden Ruth Bader Biden. Yeah, I heard you say that.
A long time before he said it, because I said, you're going to be the Ruth Bader Biden of presidents. And that's exactly the case.

Speaker 5 I mean, a lot of people are blaming the whole thing on the fact that he wouldn't get out.

Speaker 1 You're right. And he deserved it.

Speaker 5 And embarrassed the party, looked like the party was the party of doddering old men. And then, you know, as you say, she looks, the whole thing, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 We are where we are.

Speaker 5 And,

Speaker 5 you know,

Speaker 5 all I can say is, as I conclude here, I'm not going to lose my shit until it happens.

Speaker 5 I did that in the first Trump administration. I'm not going to chase every silly thing they say.

Speaker 5 I'm just not going to do it.

Speaker 1 Like, could he blow up the world on the first day?

Speaker 5 Absolutely. And put thousands of people in Guantanamo.
I don't know what he could do. He's too unpredictable.
I don't think he knows what he could do.

Speaker 5 But i'm just not going to lose my nervous system until it happens so and and am i pissed off at the people who put me in this position i am you were supposed to be my protector and a lot of people's protectors and you blew it with your boot

Speaker 5 boutique issues and your bullshit woke nonsense that the country rejected again across lines cross lines and so blacks latinos whites white women white men right Everybody.

Speaker 5 If there's anything good to come out of this, it's that you and I, who I read from your bio.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Man, thank you so much.

Speaker 5 Go back to work. That's always so much fun.
Now, a handshake won't do it.

Speaker 5 Appreciate you, man.

Speaker 1 Thanks so much, man. I had a good time, though.

Speaker 5 Each other's excuse for getting,

Speaker 1 I'm a little tipsy. Each other's excuse for getting drunk.

Speaker 1 That's a a bomb. You're the only

Speaker 1 place where I ever get a little tipsy. No doubt about it.

Speaker 2 What do you think makes the perfect snack?

Speaker 1 Hmm. It's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient.

Speaker 2 Could you be more specific?

Speaker 1 When it's cravenient. Okay.
Like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter, available right now in the street at AM P.M. or a savory breakfast sandwich I can grab in just a second at AM P.M.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing a pattern here. Well, yeah, we're talking about what I crave.

Speaker 2 Which is anything from AM PM?

Speaker 1 What more could you want? Stop by AM P.M., where the snacks and drinks are perfectly cravable and convenient. That's cravenience.
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