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She's a member of the Lady Bruins of UCLA who advances to the Final Four for the very first time in school history. But the Lakers.
Lakers beat the Rockets 104-98, led by Luka, who had 20 points. Dorian Finney-Smith had 20 points.
Gabe Vinson shot the ball extremely well. He had 20 points on six made threes.
LeBron was 16, eight, four assists, two blocks, two steals. Big block at the end of the game on Sungoon.
Austin Reeves chipped in with 12 points, eight rebounds, three assists, and two steals. This was a litmus test to see where the Lakers are.
The Rockets had been playing extremely well, but the Lakers were up to the task. And the one thing they didn't do is they didn't give up that.
The score was tied at the half. If I'm not mistaken, I think 48-48.
What they didn't do is that give up huge third quarter or huge fourth quarter. They held them to 50 points in the second half.
You can live with that. You can live with that.
In the process of doing that, they outscored them 50 by six, and that was the score they won by. Really balanced scoring.
You got, what, 46 points off the bench, and that's what you're going to have to have. Fanny Smith played really well off the bench.
Gabe Benson was sensational off the bench. Six made threes, two free throws.
But I thought the guys played well. I thought they played really well against a red-hot team, did a great job.
I just thought they played well. They didn't shoot the ball well, less than 40% from the floor, about 35% from the 3-0 show.
But if you watch this game, and I know you was on the flight, so I don't know how much of you saw. I don't know if they had TNT on the flight.
But I thought the Lakers, look, can they play better? Yes. But when you play one of the better teams and you find ways to win, because these are games that the Lakers sometimes find a way to lose.
But it was a close ball game throughout. The Rockets got out to a nice, decent lead.
The Lakers wheeled a man, kept it close. Then they blew the game, but ended up winning the game in the second half with key contributions from their big three.
Luka was really good, controlled the pace of the game. LeBron made two free throws, had a big block on Sungoon.
But I thought the difference in the ballgame tonight was their bench. Dorian Finney-Smith and Gabe Benson combined for 40 points and 10 rebounds.
And if the Lakers are going to go far, they're going to need that kind of production coming off the bench. It's not only a production that they're going to need.
Obviously, in transition, they have to play much better defensively.

They have to play much better as well.

These last few games

before the playoffs start,

they have to set a precedent

and set a tone

on how they're going to continue to play

going into the postseason.

Luke and LeBron,

I think consistency

is what they're going to have to have

to go far into the...

If they even have an opportunity, like you say, Lakers and FIAT even get to the Western Conference Finals. Let's say to that.
They have to play much better collectively as a whole. And the bench has to be very productive and contribute as much as possible when they do get in.
Yeah, look, since that injury, LeBron really hasn't shot the ball particularly well. Only one game since he's been back from that injury.
Can I say something real quick about him coming back? I think for some reason, I don't know why, I think LeBron might have came back just a little bit too early. Knowing that they have opportunities to not only make the playoffs, but want to keep their seating pretty high.
I think LeBron might have came back a little early and due to him still being injured

and hampered just a little bit, I think it

might be affecting his play in

not only shot selection,

but those shots actually going in.

I could be wrong, but

I just think he might have came back a tad bit too early

when he's not really ready or healthy. Well, he's not

as explosive. He's not able to finish

like he once could.

He's missing some gimmicks.

And so the thing is, he's really

nursing it because he don't want to do anything sudden

and retweak it. And so, you know,

hopefully as he plays,

he doesn't have a setback and he's

able to finish out the season as healthy

as he's going to be. But normally when LeBron

has an injury this late in the season,

your body doesn't heal as well as

it once did. And we've seen it.
He had the ankle injury. He wasn't the same.
He had the groin injury before. He wasn't the same.
But the thing is now he has Luka. He has AR who can help do some of the lifting.
You got three guys. You got one, two.
You got five guys in double figures. You got three guys that score at least 20.

LeBron has 16, AR had 12.

You can win with that, but I think the thing is,

you can win with that bench play,

but obviously LeBron, Luka, AR know they're going to have to get,

they're going to have to score more than 48.

They scored 85 the other night in Memphis on the road.

They scored 48 tonight and find a way to get a win against a very good Houston team. Young, but very good.
Listen, against a very young, good Houston team, but you got to think, the further you get into the playoffs, you're going to be playing against teams that are much better on. Yeah, for sure.
So then you're going to have to find ways to dig down, to dig deep, and you can't have games. You score 40, you score 85 one night, you score 40 the next.

Yeah.

Because you're not going to be able to get away with that

the better the team are that you play.

Yeah.

As you get into the playoffs.

This is a young athletic team.

They're not a whole, I mean, you got Van Fleet,

but you look at Thompson.

Brooks is fairly young.

Jalen Green, hell, he might not be, but 21, 22 years of age.

Jabari Smith, huh?

He that young?

Yeah, hell yeah.

I think he might be 22.

How old is Jalen Green?

Jabari Smith, Jabari Smith Jr., he can't be no more than 22, 20.

He might not, hell, he might not even be but 20.

Ah.

Jalen Green is 23.

How old is Jabari Smith?

Jabari Smith might be 20, 21 at the oldest. See, they're a really young team.
A really young team that, you know, they like to get up and down. But because of their head coach, who's a defensive guy, they get into you.
They'll D you up. They'll pick you up 54.
They make it tough. They don't want to give anything.
They don't want to give you any free entry passes. They'll overplay.
They'll deny. They play a physical brand of basketball.
They got big Steven Adams in there. Big Steve! Yeah, he does a great job on the glass.
Good in the pick and roll. Jha is kind of missing him because he and Jha had a great connection.
I think Zach Eaton will get that down

in the years to come, but

I like the way

the Lakers played tonight, especially in the

second half. Find a way to

win ballgames, and this is what you have to do.

Even when you're not playing your best,

Ocho, find a way to win the ballgame.

So, that big old

block, LeBron knew that

Sungoon had the mismatch on Austin Reeves, and so he like you know what I'm going to cheat this so you know hey Houston y'all got an amen but they called me the benediction what this thing over get it up out of here so benediction James did what he needed to do he came and got the ball on the free throws. He made both free throws.
Obviously, then they forced a miss at the other end. Finney Smith got the rebound, and that was the end of the ballgame.
But the Lakers played well. They won the ballgame.
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That's gonna be nice. All right, Ocho, we got a very special guest joining us, A member of the Final Four, Lady Bruins, Kiki Rice.

Kiki Rice. Kiki, how you doing? I'm doing great.
How are y'all? We're doing amazing. Well, congratulations.
Has it really sunk in yet? Like, hold on. We're part of the first group of young women that's ever gone to the Final Four at UCLA.
That is a very, very huge accomplishment. Yeah, I mean, after the buzzer went off and we were all celebrating, it was just so special because, like, that's part of what I came here to do and part of what my class came here to do.
So I'm just so excited that we were able to, you know, finally get to the final four and kind of take that next step. But, you know, we've got two more games, so we're excited for that, getting ready to head down there tomorrow.
You know, you think about it. Go ahead, Ocho.
Listen, I have one question and I really like this. And when I think about post-season, post-season stuff to do, I saw something where you said you want to become an NBA general manager after your playing days are done.
Yeah. Right? What's the first move you'd make if you happen to be a GM? I'm just curious.
Before we get into, you know, what you're doing right now in college, what would be the first move you'd make as a GM in NBA? First move? Well, if I was the GM of the Mavs, I would not have traded Luka. My first move for sure.
Yeah. I love it.
I love it. I love it.
I love it. Oh, yeah.
Boy, you got it. KK, okay, look at what you guys did.
You lose the USC twice. You beat them in the Pac-10 championship.
Obviously, that was a huge compliment. Did that guy give you the confidence or were you always confident that you had the type of team that could advance to the Final Four and potentially win it all? Yeah, I mean, this whole season, we were ranked number for most of the year.
Obviously top team in the country, but I do think, you know, like losing to a team twice is hard. And the FC is obviously a great team.
Juju is great, and they have a lot of great players. But to finally beat them in our conference championship, it definitely kind of, I think, gave us some more confidence just because we knew, like, all right, we finally kind of beat the one team that had beaten us this whole year, and now we're just, like, kind of, you know, playing out the rest of the season, but we were really confident at that point for sure.
You look at you guys, you played LSU, and that game was nip and tuck, very back and forth. I mean, you guys get to a 10-point lead, they whittle it down to two.
You race out to an 8-point lead, they whittle it down to three. You guys, and then all of a sudden, you get a couple of big key rebounds, and you kick it out to a Hawkeyes, and she makes a couple of threes, even though Laura Bess said, no, don't shoot.
Okay, good job, good job. So what are you thinking in that ballgame? You're like, damn, we're so close.
We had a 10-point lead, and we don't let them cut it all the way down to two. What's going through your mind as the game starts to get later in the ballgame, but the game starts to tighten up? Yeah, I think at one point I looked over at the scoreboard.
We were up like, I think our biggest leader were up like 13 in the third quarter. I was like, all right, we got this.
Like, wow. And then when I tried to get close, they definitely get a little nervous.
I'm like, can't let this slip away, especially because LSU, they were the team year. So like we needed that, we needed that revenge.
We just wanted to get through the final four too. And like, obviously a lot on the line, but like we work, we worked on special situations and just end game stuff so much in practice this year that I really had a lot of confidence that we were going to be able to find a way to get it done.
But it is like, you know, it was a little bit nervous at the end there because they're a great team. Flaje is a great player.
And so, like, you know, it's never over until the buzzer sounds. So I just had to finish it out.
Yeah. Speaking of finishing things up, with the Final Four approaching, how is the UCLA team preparing to face the next challenge? And if there were any lessons that you learned from the LSU game, what are they? To make sure you don't have to deal with the next team coming in, whoever you do have to face? Not the game, not being as close as it was.
They got UConn up next in page buckets. Oh my goodness.
So the game doesn't be as close as it was this last time. You actually close it out without having to be fearful, you know, towards the end of the game.
Yeah. I mean, I do think like at this point of year, like, we're prepared that every team that we're going to play is going to be a great team.

So, like, we know matchups are going to be close.

Like, the games are going to be close down the line.

So we just got to be comfortable in those moments. And I think, like, having played a few of those games will help us,

you know, just because we have that, like, post-game experience.

But, you know, we'll watch scout, watch film, kind of get ready.

I think we played UConn last year, actually.

So, like, having that experience playing them, and we played really well, we beat them last

year.

It'll be good for our confidence for sure.

Kiki, who are some of the women that you watched growing up, obviously being a fabulous

player that you are, who are some of the women that you watch and said, you know what, that's

I kind of what kind of molded your game or kind of some of the women that inspired you

to play basketball?

Yeah, I mean, I grew up watching Skylar Diggins, Arike, Diana Taurasi, and not only like in basketball, but like I love watching like Serena Williams and Alex Morgan, like other like, well, like, you know, really fantastic women in other sports to just kind of to see them be great at their craft. And that really inspired me for sure.
Why UCLA? I mean, obviously UCLA is really not known as a women's basketball program. You have a UConn, you have the lady Gamecock, you have LSU, uh, Tennessee are probably, uh, Notre Dame is probably more known as women college basketball.
What, what made you choose UCLA? Yeah, exactly. Because I felt like, you know, UCLA is not as known.
And like, obviously it was like. You're going to make it known.
Exactly. Like, I didn't want to go to a program that had a bunch of national championships.
I've been to the final four a bunch of times. Like, I felt like it makes it even more special to go to a place and help it become that level of that level of program.
So I think, you know, having that all come in to like, you know, reality now just makes

it even more special.

I just swear today

that Olivia Miles,

the Notre Dame player,

she's projected to be number two.

But instead of entering

the WNBA draft,

she entered the transfer portal.

Are you surprised by this?

I was really surprised

by that one, honestly.

Yeah, really surprised.

I mean, look,

she's going to be,

would be probably the number two pick and you're deciding to come back to college. I mean, I think it speaks to like NIL and what you can get in college and, you know, how great, you know, the college experience is.
But like, I don't think that happens often. Someone who's going to be, for sure, lottery pick decides to come back to college.
I mean, I don't know exactly what went into her decision, but yeah, I was surprised for sure. Yeah, if it went into her decision, she's going to make more money in college than she would be on a rookie at the WNBA.
That's what went into her decision, Kiki. Yeah.
If it makes dollars, it makes sense. Exactly.
Yeah. Speaking of the WNBA, if you could build your starting five, any current NBA or WNBA players, who are you picking? I'd say, I'd more say WNBA.
Who would your starting five be? Let's see. All right.
I have Asia Wilson. At the five.
At the five. Kaitlyn Clark, one.
Mm-hmm.

I'm putting Stewie at the four.

Yeah.

Like, ooh, you got a roster so far.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Putting Nafisa at the three.

Ooh.

Too deep. Oh, you got some defense on that front line We're locking up And then at the two shoot I'm going Chelsea Gray Okay Okay I like it I thought you might go with Rick I thought you might take a Rick and Gumbawale but okay, I like Chelsea because she's healthy now.
If you watched in the unrival in the semifinal game, whoo, that's the Chelsea I was expecting to see last year when she came back. But you can tell the way she's playing now versus the way she played and when she got back in the Olympics that wasn't her.
This is her that we saw in the unrival leading her team to the first title in the unrival. Yeah, she was tough in that.
Yeah, she was playing real well. So let me ask you this.
You probably got approached by a lot of companies wanting to be you, wanting to do this NIL. How do you determine who Kiki is going to align with? yeah, I mean, I think a lot of it is, like, based on if I feel like we can build, like, a long-term partnership and just, like, how, like, how organic.
How much money y'all got? Yeah, exactly. No, that's...
No, yeah, that has to be good money. But, like, I think, you know, feeling like the brand or company is, like, you know, aligned with my values and everything.
and like obviously um you know i don't want to be good money. But like, I think, you know, feeling like the brand or company is like, you know, aligned with my values and everything.
And like, obviously, you know, I don't want to be like associated with any anyone that's kind of like, you know, kind of bring harm to my brand and my name and everything. And then, you know, part of it is money also.
I mean, like, got to do things that make sense and things that I care about, too. I think like that's when I get like more into doing it and it becomes and it becomes more organic because I care about the cause or whatever it is.
You're the first NIL athlete to sign with Jordan Brand. Do you understand? I mean, look, there's not a knock on anybody else.
Nike and Adidas and Under Armour or whatever the case may be. But you know the logo.
That's what it goes about, the logo. And you're the first.
When you're like, have you really thought about it? You're like, look at these, look at these jay. They got these ones, they got these laths, they got these fours.
I mean, what does that feel like? What does that mean to you? To me, it feels like a big shoe collection and a lot of shoes that I have. It's great, though.
I mean, yeah, one of the best parts of it is all the gear and everything, for sure. But I do think being aligned with a brand like Jordan, any basketball player you grew up in, you idolize Michael Jordan.
You know what he did for the game and what he means to all of so I think like for for me to be the first and a athlete that Jordan chose to sign like it just like I don't know it was kind of a surreal moment when it all happened and for it to be like at such young age you know what I mean like I signed my senior year of high school like going into college and everything so um it really just like kind of it motivated me to continue to work hard because it's like, all right,

like I have a lot to live up to,

but also like a lot more coming if I continue to put in the work.

One more thing, Jo, before you,

one more thing.

Let me ask you this.

Give me the five shoes, Jordan shoes,

you don't have that you really, really want.

I don't have?

Honestly, I don't think I have any.

There's none that I want that I don't have.

You got them all day up. Yeah.
What's really going on? Kiki will shoot your buck. I'm 13.
I'm 13. I got you, Shannon.
I mean, so, hey, so, I mean, you know, obviously the ducks and, you know, all the signatures, they don't make a whole lot of them. Did you get the, did you get there? Did you get the Dior Jordans? Or did you get the Virgins? You ain't got those? You want to get those, huh? Yeah, I'll ask for those for sure.
Yeah, I need those. I don't blame you.
Shoot for the stars. You land on the moon, you still got a great collection.
Exactly. Listen, outside of basketball, I've learned some interesting things about you.
For one, you like marble.

Yeah.

You love to cook.

And you're scuba certified.

Yeah.

I'm scuba certified, too. Really?

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

No.

The first thing I have to ask.

What?

I am scuba certified.

Don't worry about it.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

I'll finish your question.

I just want to know.

Sorry.

Sorry about that.

Where's the coolest place you go and diving?

The coolest place I went diving was in Mozambique.

Thank you. I just want to know.
Sorry, sorry about that. Where's the coolest place you go and diving? The coolest place I went diving was in Mozambique.
What? How was it? That was dope. It was really cool.
The water there is so clear and pretty. We saw a shark there, which is really cool.
All right. That was my next question.
Have there been any scares when you've been diving?

Because I got scared

when I went,

when I went school for diving

because I ran into a whale shark

by accident

and I obviously didn't,

didn't realize how big they were

until they get right up on you.

Even though they're,

they're,

they're not hostile,

but just still.

Yeah,

the shark though.

Yeah,

it was definitely,

it was not,

it wasn't that big.

It was like a,

can't remember what kind of shark? It wasn't that big, but it was definitely scary. definitely scary i mean like it's not not cool to come up on a shark when you're diving yeah no just the idea of it but i haven't had any any crazy scares i mean i think like one of the scariest parts is honestly making sure i'm doing everything right so i'm not like messing up and like messing up the tank or all that but yeah listen all right the fact that you love to cook i love to cook, I can't cook worth a damn.
I'm horrible. And I think that might be one of the reasons why I've been left by everybody that I've dated because I can't cook.
But what is your go-to dish? Let's say if you try and impress somebody, it's your go-to dish every time. And that's what you're going to make.
Cause you know, they're going to like it. Yeah.
I'll make some tacos. I know.
Damn, Kiki. Tacos? I mean, I thought you were going to say, I'm going to whip up some pasta, some linguine.
I'll keep it simple so I know I don't mess it up. Hey, less is more.
Exactly. And also, you're a big Marvel fan, so which Marvel character do you think would make the best basketball player? Just hypothetically speaking, if there was a Marvel character that actually played basketball, who would be the best? Like the actor or the character? Yeah, the character itself.
Probably Captain America. Ah, I like that.
I like that. Kiki, you also played high school soccer, one Gatorade player of the year.
What went into the decision for you to choose basketball over soccer? Yeah, I thought for a little bit about doing both in college, but I just felt like that would be too much. So I think like playing one sport is already enough, but to do both.
And I think the biggest thing is also just like I didn't want to take my time away from the sport that I liked the most, which is basketball. And like, I wanted to, you know, I want to be a pro, want to do, um, a lot of things.
And I think I needed to focus to like fully on that. But I think the biggest thing was just feeling like, uh, like the basketball community I liked more than the soccer community.
Um, just my teammates, the teams I was on and all that stuff. I think, um, that's what like really drew me to just continue to play basketball.

But you know,

I like this,

the fact that she played soccer and that, that makes me that much more of a fan now,

but this can all change based on your answer.

All right.

Grishano or Messi?

Messi. That's what I'm talking about.
Kiki. That's what I'm talking about.
Kiki. Kiki.
Kiki. Kiki.
Kiki. Ooh.
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? That's what I'm talking about, Kiki. That's what I'm talking about, Kiki.
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That has to be messy. Now that we're done.
I don't need to wait. See? See what I'm saying? I've been trying to tell.
Kiki, I've been trying to tell this man this for the better part of two years. He ain't want to hear nothing I got to say.
So, whoop, there it all good I mean she know greatness She played fucker She was Gatorade player of the year No You know how many people great Gatorade You know how many Gatorade player they are And she was copped out Yeah I was expecting a different answer I know were, but don't worry about it. You got what you got.
Messy. Messy.
In the documentary, Full Court Press, you mentioned that you grew up watching President Obama, and I think you had an aunt that was like a national security advisor to doing President Obama's administration, correct? Yes. Did you get an opportunity to meet him? Yes, I have met him, actually.
Okay. Yeah.
Probably the coolest thing, like, congratulations text I got was Obama texted my aunt yesterday and said congrats. I adore it, man.
That was probably the coolest thing for sure. That's dope.
Wow, that's awesome. That is unbelievable.
What else? So what did you like to do in your free time? So when you're not practicing basketball, you're not cooking tacos. What does Kiki like to do? I love to shop, which probably isn't the best habit, but I love that.
All your little NIL money gone soon, you get it. Exactly.
I love to shop, travel, hang out with my teammates. I mean, I don't have a ton of free time, but I would say just...
Actually, I'd like to go to the beach, too. I'd like to sit outside, just hang out.
Well, are you in the perfect place to go to the beach? Where's the beach or Santa Monica? Malibu, Santa Monica? I mean, if I'm going to Layout, I'd like to go to Malibu. It's much nicer.
But Santa Monica, if I got to go to like a close one, yeah, over Venice. Yeah, Venice is crowded.
Malibu, once you get on up there, I mean, you got some nice spots. I mean, it does get a little crowded, but that water cold, man.
It's cold out here. It's cold.
I don't get in the water, though. No, yeah.
People think that the West Coast water is like the East, where the East is like warm.

Yeah.

Is this Pacific?

Oh, no.

It's different.

It's different.

I got one last question.

Go ahead, Osh.

What legacy do you hope to leave at UCLA, and how do you envision influencing the next generation of female athletes? I hope to leave a legacy of championships here. I want to bring, like I got two years left, so two national championships, two more Final Fours, another conference championship.
And then I think the biggest thing is I want to influence the culture here. I want to continue to help us be a winning program and be just a program that continues to produce great players and great people.
And then in terms of my legacy, I want to be known as the hardest working person in every room and every team that I'm on. I like it.
Well, Kiki, congratulations on advancing to the Final Four. Best of luck in the Final Four and look forward to watching you and your continued success.
Hey, y'all cut down the net. Come back, join Uncle Nocho and tell us all about it.
All right. Thanks, y'all.
Thanks for having me. Appreciate you.
Thanks for coming on with us. Kiki Rice, UCLA outstanding player in the Final Four for the very first time

in Lady Bruin history.

Got to be an unbelievable honor.

Seems like to me she wants to be Asia.

Asia started this in South Carolina.

She goes there.

She was the top basketball player in the country.

She goes to a program that's really not known for ladies basketball.

And lo and behold, she starts it. and now a bunch of Final Fours later, three national championships later, Player of the Year, Asia was Player of the Year, Aaliyah Boston was Player of the Year.
And now Lady Game Cox are right up there with the UConns and the Tennessee's when you think about Lady Women's College Basketball, they're one of the most prominent programs in the NCAA. So congratulations, UCLA.
Good luck. Best of luck, Kiki.
But Ocho, they don't have an easy opponent. UConn advanced to the Final Four for the 24th time, beating USC 78-64 in the Elite Eight.
Paige Buckets, Beckers, 31 points, 6 assists. That's coming off a game in which she dropped 40.
Sarah Strong had 22 points and 17 rebounds as they led the Huskies to their 24th Final Four appearances. UConn is hoping to win the first national championship since 2016.
Will face UCLA in its Final Four run on Friday. USC's Final Four drought continues with tonight's loss.
USC will head the next season. The Final Four drought said it, 40 years.
The Trojans last made it. Cheryl Miller, final season of the player, when they were national runner-up, they lost to the Lady Longhorns that year.
I think Clarissa Davis, I think they were 35-0 that year. But they did win back-to-back national championships in 83-84 because they beat La Tech, the Lady Teamsters.
So long drought, we knew it was going to be an uphill climb without Juju. They were cut out even with Juju.
With Juju. So I have a question.
If Juju was playing, do you think there was a chance that they would have had a better chance at that scene? Oh, absolutely, yeah. Do you think they still would have lost? I'm not going to say that, but I'm saying Juju is one of the two or three best players in college basketball.
I'm not supposed to say she's two or three, if you get where I'm going with this. She's sensational.
Absolutely, they have a chance.

And we were hoping because we saw what that matchup was last year. So,

we were just hoping that came

back again and when they were on the same side, it

lined up perfectly. Okay, we're

about to get this matchup again.

And unfortunately, we

did not get

that. So,

it is what it is. Hey, Juju will be back stronger, better than ever.
I don't know if she's had the surgery, but Paige, say they exchanged information. Paige has torn her ACL.
She's gone through this. There are a lot of players that have torn their ACL that can have a conversation.
Keep her up. It's just a minor setback for a major comeback.
Reach out to Adrian Peterson. Obviously, it's a little different, you know, football and basketball.
But I have no doubt in my mind that Juju Watkins is going to come back and she'll be as good, if not better, than what she was before. So, yeah, but UConn is going to be tough.
UConn is going to be tough. They're good.
Geno is good at the college game. He's the greatest woman's college coach.
I'm not so sure you're going to tell me there are four or five men coaches that are better than Geno based on what he's done. With that being said, you never say never, Ocho, because in one game anything can happen.
Somebody get hot shooting threes, they can make a bunch of threes and shoot you out of the gym.

But the way Paige is playing, boy, they got their work cut out for.

You remember when Caitlin Clark went on that run?

The last couple of years, Caitlin Clark would blow it up everybody.

Paige Beckers is having that type of game.

She dropped 40, and then she drops 31.

Yes, that's not going that's not, that's going to be a difficult, a difficult handle. As if Fudd had not played particularly well lately, but when you get Paige playing as well as she's playing, you know Fudd could go off.
And then the lady tonight, what was it? Sarah Strong, 22 points and 17 rebounds. Huh? She's a fresh, yeah.
And so now that tells me when you get that many rebounds, don't you? You'll get some second chance points because they ain't all defensive rebounds. She's getting some of those on the offensive end, which is that if she doesn't put it back, she's going to give you an opportunity to get a lot of second chance points.
So, Ron, it's going to be a very tough matchup for UCLA,

but UCLA say,

we belong.

We've been ranked number one.

I think they've only lost two games.

What,

they lost two games all year?

I think USC beat them twice.

I don't think they lost another game,

did they?

Or did they lose?

Okay,

so they lost,

maybe with Iowa? Or they lost to Tennessee on the road? So, it's going to be a great matchup. Can't wait see it Texas top TCU to advance to its first final four since 2003 the Horned Frogs entered the first half with more turnovers 11 than made field goals 7 TCU finished the game with 21 turnovers on just 12 made field goals Texas has that ability I mean I can see a game where it's 35-34.
USC and Texas. Excuse me.
They play each other. They know each other.
They're in the same conference, Ocho. Texas beat.
Texas snapped. USC's SEC winning streak.
And then, you know, USC returned the favor when they got them in the conference championship. But hey, two teams that are very familiar with each other.
Both of them played outstanding defense. It's going to be a great matchup.
We know what Dawn Staley is. She's been here.
She's done that. They don't have the shoot.
I'm not saying they don't have it because they have the same women on the squad that made a lot of the,

uh,

pop out and,

you know,

pull. they don't have the shoot.
I'm not going to say they don't have it because they have the same women on the squad that made a lot of pow-pow and, you know, Ploy Kis can dominate the glass. I think Raven Johnson, they have young ladies that can make the shots.
They just, for whatever reason, they haven't made them this year. So it's going to be a very, very interesting matchup.
I think it's going to be a low-scoring game, Ocho,

because both of these teams get out there defensively.

But they play Friday?

What's that?

Both are Friday.

Friday, right?

Okay.

Let's go to the game.

Because they play Friday because the championship game is Sunday because the men's championship game is Monday.

But it used to be the women played after the men. I think they did.
You heard me. Huh? Y'all want to go to the game? It's in Tampa.
Y'all want to go to the game? I just asked you. That's on the other side of the country, bro.
That's right down. That's right down the road from you, bro.
That ain't right down the road for me. I know it's right down the road for me, but I'm inviting you to go to the game and we can sit core side and we could say, and we could talk.
We obviously we'll probably had a show. No, we don't have the show Friday.
We could talk about a Saturday. No, we ain't got a show.
No, I gotta be, I gotta be in, I'm gonna be in a Virginia. I got a prior engagement.
I'm inviting you to watch the game and sit courtside. I have a prior engagement.
What? I have a prior engagement. What's more important, the engagement or your co-host inviting you to sit courtside at the game? I promised my brother I would do something with him.
He's been in your life all the time. He gonna be in my life too.
Alright. Well, hell, I'm expecting to be here too.
I mean, I got a prior engagement, Ocho. You know how I get my word.
Okay. Okay.
I didn't invite somebody else. Chan, Chan, you wanna go to the game? No.
He said you don't want to go to the game with you. We were getting where we couldn't pay the bill.
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That's fair. Joe, Regional Vice President, PG&E.
We have to run the business in a way that keeps people safe, but starts driving costs down.

I would love to see that.

We're on our way.

I hope so.

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The New Orleans Pelicans have shut down Zion Williamson and CJ McCollum for the rest of the season due to what are we doing Zion in 2019 2020 he played 24 games in 2020 2021 he played 61 games In 21-22, he played zero games. 22-23, he played 29 games.

23-24, he played zero games. 22-23, he played 29 games.

23-24, 70 games.

This year, 30 games.

He's earned almost $115 million.

And they're 82-game season.

Right.

I have a question.

Hold on, 82-game.

But 1920, that was the COVID year, right? So they didn't play a full season. 1920, yeah.
But he missed 21 games. He missed 82 games.
He missed 53 games. He missed 12 games.
He missed 52 games. I have a question.
Yes, sir. Who was it we just talked about

where they did a test

and decided because of his injury history,

they didn't want to sign him?

Was it the Lakers, if I'm not mistaken?

Oh, yeah, the dude from Charlotte.

I can't remember his name.

I know who you're talking about, though.

Yes.

Did Zion Williams, before entering the draft,

despite how great he was coming in,

did he have an injury history?

No.

Was he injury prone?

No.

So all this is new.

Yeah.

But you have to understand.

I'm serious.

You go from playing, what, 25, 30 games in high school,

30, 35 games in college, if you go all the way to the final four, to try to play 82. More demands on the body, more grueling, a back-to-backs.
You ain't paying, you know, you're not playing back-to-backs in college. You're not playing back-to-backs in high school.
Okay, well, what's the answer? Because they're multiple. I'm not sure how many NBA players there are in the NBA, but they've been playing 80-degree games for a long time.
Injuries do happen. Yeah.
But do injuries happen? Some people are predisposed. Some people have, you know, maybe your health, the way you're built, the way you run, the way you land.
There are a lot of things that go into it, but... At this rate? With Zion...
We haven't been able to play a full season yet? Today? But here's the thing, Ocho. When you talk about a man his size, when have you seen somebody that size, that explosive? Shit.
Not like that. No, exactly.
And until, you know, I think the thing is, he's a little heavy. Now, he looked good.
He came back. They said he was 264, which is as light as he's been since he's been in the NBA.
Light? Yeah. Man, how the hell are you jumping like that at 264? No, he was jumping like that at 284, 300.
It's explosive.

But that's a lot.

I mean, think about it. Thank, thank, thank.

You know,

planting, stopping, and cutting.

You were able to do that

because you were light.

Just imagine somebody,

225,

trying to stop,

plant, and speed out,

cut like you did.

Ugh.

Exactly.

Hey, listen,

something got to give.

Exactly.

Exactly.

He is a,

he is a,

Thank you. hey listen some some got to give exactly exactly he is a he is a he has an 18 wheeler body but he has a ferrari engine in it and so he's so explosive he gets so much elevation at some point in town all that bound up and down up and down running in and out and have to stay on top of it, Ocho.
You have to get your treatment. You have to make sure you're icing your knees and your ankles.
Look at LeBron. A lot of times LeBron, he got ice packs on his back.
As soon as the game over, he got ice packs on his back. He got his feet in the cold tub.
He got ice bags on his knees. Man, I remember when I first got to the league, Ocho,

man, I saw them guys getting in cold tub and ice.

I said, man, get y'all old ass out of here.

They said, okay, keep on playing.

By year five, my young ass was in the cold tub.

So, I mean, are the Pelicans to blame at all?

Or is everything, is the onus on this and the injuries year after year after year is this all on Zion just curious well I mean look I mean you can only do so much I mean what you do and what you do how you eat how you prepare are you getting enough rest there are a lot of things that go into it. Teams cannot watch you 24

7. You can't.

That's where the really good players, they

do it away. Because if

all you do is what's

required of you, you're never going to be great.

You're never going to be great.

You see, I was reading the

quote, Will I Am said,

he said, work-life balance is for someone that's fulfilling somebody else's dream. You got work-life balance, you paying for somebody else's kids to go to college.
You paying for their second and third home. That's not yours.
So what is it that Zion wants to do? How great does he want to be?

Because if you want to be great

and ask anybody that wants to be great,

I'm talking about great, great.

Ask them what their work-life balance is about.

Go ask Steph Curry.

Go ask LeBron.

Go ask anybody that wants to be great.

Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson.

Go ask anybody.

Everybody don't want that greatness, don't you? Yeah. Talk about it all the time.
I can't want it. You can't want something more than somebody wanted for themselves.
Right. I don't care how much money you give somebody because eventually that stimulant will go away.
If you're not a very self-motivated person, there ain't enough money in the world to keep you motivated. But we've seen guys, $100 million contract, $200 million contract, and give it all up.
John just got to make into what's important to him. What does he want to do? How does he want to be remembered? Right.
He's made money. He's made a lot of money.
He's made $115 million. That's an NBA salary.
Not counting what he's made off the court. He has a brand Jordan deal that probably pays him $10 million a year.
He can just live out that. Yeah.
Damn, man. I'm sure he has some local stuff in New Orleans.

I'm sure he has some local brands

there that he's doing stuff with.

But

there's a price

to be paid for

greatness. And if you

don't, if you're not willing to pay that price,

you don't deserve to be great.

You don't deserve to be successful. I ain't going to sugarcoat it.
Everybody doesn't want that. Everybody don't want to be great, don't you? People talk about greatness, but if you understood what it required of you...
I think someone like him, as great as he was in college I would think and I would hope he would want to continue that greatness and I think it's just been it's been derailed due to obviously the injuries maybe the weight obviously being the size that he is and being as explosive as he is having that combination it doesn't see fit and the first thing they give is your body certain you know certain parts of your body so i'm i would think you know becoming or getting a little smaller similar to what dak has done and dropping what 20 30 pounds however much they said dak had dropped i think you know it would behoove him to do just that i'm not sure who the people are around him you know who his team is. I'm hoping he doesn't have a team of yes people that don't want to challenge him in any way.
They see fit so they don't get their water cut off, if you know what I mean. I do.
It's hard to find people like that, though, Joe. I'm very fortunate that I have friends.
My sister my sister, my sister, and she don't care.

I'm like, you talking to me like this, you know I pay all your bills?

How about I have you out on the street?

You talking reckless to me like this.

But it's honest, and I need that.

She gonna check me?

Yeah.

But it's not easy, Ocho greatness requires greatness is boring because it's a very monotonous tedious job because you do the same thing over and over over and over see if you look at people now I'm not talking about now I wonder how many vacations Jeff Bezos took when he was trying to build Amazon hmm I wonder the guys that started Google how many vacations they took when they were trying to build it. Well, when you work 200 billion, you can go wherever you want to go now.
I'm talking about in the process of building. Right.
Man, I need... Bro, work-life balance is not for people that desire greatness.
It ain't. Hey, I don't know the effects, and I don't know.
What would happen if, and I mean no disrespect, what would happen if a player of Zion's caliber, would he still have that same explosiveness if he took the alternative route and taking something like Ozempic? I don't even know if that's legal. Excuse me if you've been asking.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just asking.
It's probably a ban. I mean, in order for you to take anything, I mean, look, it's best to run it through the NBA.
Let the medical doctor say it's probably banned unless you have diabetes. It's a diabetic drug, Ocho.
That's what it was intended for. Right, okay, okay, okay.
So unless you got diabetes, the NBA, the NFL, the MLB probably not going to let you take it. Right.
I don't know. Listen, I'm sure they've been trying to...
Ocho, there's a part about being great, Ocho. There's sacrifices that comes along with that.
You must be willing to deny yourself certain things. See see discipline requires you to do your very best when no one else is watching you see discipline okay I want to do this I need to do that do I do this or do I do that that's what discipline does I can remember though when Zion came in the way they talking, the way they hacked him up based on what he had already done in college, you do realize he was the one that was supposed to replace LeBron and be in the face of the league.
Yeah. You know, they were pushing, I remember, they were pushing that.
And I was, listen, I would have loved to see someone take that torch and have that torch passed on him. But I think the injuries have just derailed it.

And at this point, being that he's not even played an 82-game season yet,

why not take the alternative route and doing something else

that makes it take the weight off you right there?

But if it's something the NBA won't allow, I mean...

I don't even know if you were to take...

I mean, because a zimpic was weighs muscle and you'll never get it back.

Look at people.

Look at people that take Ozempic and look at their musculature.

Is this there?

There's no oomph to the muscle.

Look at people.

Look at people that take Ozempic and look at their definition.

It's just

nothing.

Right.

Yeah, but listen,

if you don't have the muscle

that takes away

some of the explosion as well.

Yeah, of course.

If you strip muscle away,

where do you take the muscle?

You got muscle in your glues,

your hamstring,

your quads?

Yeah, absolutely.

It's going to impact you.

Yes.

Yeah.

Okay, never mind on that then. Never mind on that.
I just think the thing is what's important to him. It's not important enough to him yet.
He got down to 264, so he showed there's a level of discipline that he does have. So, I just wish, I wish, you know, somebody, but like, no, I don't wish anything.
I wish Zion, this is a Zion issue. This is not about people around him because at the end of the day, Zion is, is Zion's biggest enemy.
Jimmy Haslam called the Browns trade for Deshaun Watson a big swing and miss. In March 2022, Cleveland Browns acquired Deshaun Watson from the Texans in a trade package that included three first-round draft picks.
The Browns then signed Deshaun to a $230 million contract, fully guaranteed. Since joining the Browns, he started just 19 games because of suspension and injuries.
Hosted one of the lowest total QBRs in the NFL. Suffered consecutive season injuries in 23 and 24.
We took a big swing and miss with Deshaun, Havlum said today. We thought we had our quarterback and we didn't.
We gave up a lot of draft picks to get him. So we dug ourselves out of that hole.

The trade was the entire organization's decision,

and it ends with D and I.

So hold us accountable.

I love that. I mean, you know, Jimmy has made some mistakes,

but he's...

Because here's the thing, Ocho.

You do realize when they signed Deshaun Watson,

Deshaun Watson had not even started on the contract extension

that the Houston Texans had gave him?

Yeah.

He hadn't even started that.

They gave him an extra $80 million

and he hadn't even started on the contract

that was supposed to happen.

Yeah.

Remember I just talked about this yesterday

about being able to get the truth?

When's the last time you heard an owner come out and say something like this at any point or GM I like at any ever in the history in the history even Ocho even though it's very obvious because ain't no general manager gonna sign up can sign up on 230 that's got to go all the way to the top way to the top but they would never say it though yes they would never say it this is unprecedented because they would never do this and I just and you just got on me last night about hearing the truth yes actually coming out and saying it like it is everybody else will say it yes yeah but Ocho you know the man you know the man feeling some type of way he said this Deshaun Watson is still on his team yeah matter of fact

he's still in the

Ocho

he's in the

he's in the building

Ocho

I give you an example

he's in the building

rehabbing

Ocho

how about this here

I married the wrong woman

while still being married

what

not after you got a divorce

Ocho

you know what I'm saying

I get a divorce

I've been together we've been together five-6 years hey say that one more time I don't think the people in the chat heard you say it one more time I'm still married and I say you know what had a big swing and miss married the wrong woman hey man listen I think I don't know how things will go. I don't know how things will go.
Deshaun will come back this year. I think they still owe him like, what, like $80 million over the next two years, Ocho? $82, if I'm not mistaken.
$82, if I'm not mistaken. Do they take a quarterback in the draft? Yeah.

And hold on,

what are Cleveland picking?

The Giants are picking three, right?

Yeah.

Titans are one.

Oh.

What are they?

What are they picking? Two.

Thank you. up for one.
Oh. What are they? What are they picking? Two.
That's a big decision.

You got to get a quarterback.

You got to get a quarterback.

Do you think?

But hold on.

Hold on.

Hold on.

They're only $2 million.

They're only $46 million

the next two years.

Okay.

Hold on.

They got to get a quarterback, right?

Yes.

What you thinking?

Cam?

Shador?

Well, it all depends on what Tennessee does at one.

Because you don't control issue at two.

Everything is being controlled by one.

What does Tennessee need? Quarterback. And where do you think Abdul Carter is going to go? Everybody believes that the Tennessee Titans are taking Cam Ward with one.
I have a question. Yes.
You know what? I'm not going to do any comparisons. Okay.
Cam Ward at one. So Abdul Carter, I thought he might be the one to go first.
Tennessee might pull a wool over everybody's eyes, but obviously they do need a quarterback. I'm assuming they don't believe in Will Levis.
But the mistakes and inconsistencies that he's had. How the hell I'm going to believe in Will Levis and this joker got up picking one? What the hell are you talking about? Believe in it.
He's really in this position. Yeah.
Hell no. Normally we're able to, at least when the draft comes along, you can tell the first three picks.
Indefinite. Who's going where in that order.
Now, once you get the four, ain't no telling what's going to happen. This year in draft, I don't know who's going to want.
Yeah. I just don't.
Now, we know Tennessee needs a quarterback, but who do they like more? Do they like Cam? Do they like Shador? The New York Giants. The Giants have to take a quarterback.
The Browns have to take a quarterback. But you know, everybody keeps saying that, you know, the Giants said, well, you know, we don't have to take a quarterback but you know everybody keeps saying that you know the Giants said well you know we don't have to take a quarterback and yes you do that's why you're in that position they're going to say whatever they want to say for one this is what the league is known for doing is they're going to lie they're going to lie and hope you pass on who they really want.
Yeah, because I want you to trade up to get him. Especially, the only way I can prevent somebody from taking is that I'm in the one spot because you can't trade above one.
And I ain't trading like in Harlem Nights. And I ain't trading, punk.
It depends. Now, you never know what package someone from below you might give you in exchange for their number one pick if they want said player bad enough they'll come getting but here's the thing do you believe the guy because ain't no price.
You can't offer Kansas City enough for Patrick Holmes.

You can't offer Cincinnati enough.

You can't offer Buffalo enough.

You can't offer Baltimore enough.

So the question is, do you believe that the guy,

the quarterback that you take is going to give you 10 years of prosperity?

Wait a minute.

Now look at the names you just said.

Well, let me ask you a question. Do you think those guys were good? Do you think those guys? Did you think Josh Allen was going to be what he was? What he turned out to be? Lamar Jackson was the 32nd pick and the Ravens traded back to get him.
Patrick Mahomes. Andy traded.
He was 17 spots to zoom up to the board. So it's easy to say hindsight because it's a magnificent science.

On the projections, you see what happens when you miss with that guy?

Yeah.

Chicago had an opportunity to take Deshaun.

They had an opportunity to take Mahone boy.

And what did they do?

They took Trubisky. Well, that's one job.
Well, that's one job, but that's a difficult job, man. Being a scout, having the eye for talent, watching players play in shorts and shirts, judging everything off what they do at the combine and what they put on film.
I mean, everybody knew Joe Burrow. Joe was the only, like, etched in stone.

He was the number one.

Knew what it was.

Yeah.

Knew what it was.

Because I'm trying to think.

Because Baker Mayfield

was in that draft

with Josh Allen.

Yeah.

And my homeboy.

And not my homeboy,

Lamar.

If you could do that draft all over, what would the order be now? Oh, you're taking Lamar one. Josh Allen two.
Yeah, for sure. Just like if you do my home draft, you're taking my home number one.
For sure, yeah. Absolutely.
Yeah, I mean, it's a mistake. Because, look, you can make a mistake at a lot of other positions, but nothing sets you back or does more damage to your franchise than the quarterback.
You stay at the quarterback position every time. Look, if your foundation is cracked, you know, if the roof, I can do the roof.
Ain't no hell on no foul. Right.
Windows something, you know, I get it. But that foundation, the quarterback is the foundation piece of an organization.
And when you miss or it's cracked... Yeah.
Messes up everything. Messes up everything.
Thank you.ar going one, Josh Allen going two. Who else was in that draft? Sam Donald was in that draft? Oh, wow.
Ray Warner. Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel says he wants to be on the hot seat like Nick Sirianni was.
I want to be on that same hot seat that Nick Sirianni was on last year. Bro, you ain't got to, from top to bottom, you don't have that.
Does he realize how talented, what a job Howie Roseman has done? Yeah, he knows. He understands.
He understands. Listen, the saying will always remain true.
Players get coaches fired and players keep coaches jobs. Now you look at the landscape of your team.
Do you have what Sierra and he has in Philly? No! And defensively. A team like that, you can keep your job for a while.
Don't joke. Look at that offensive line that man got.
Look at Philly's offensive line. Going to the Hall of Fame is Lane Johnson Lane Johnson Dickerson Landon Dixon he's a multi-all pro pro ball player they just lost the Hall of Famer in Jason Kelsey you got her back in Sa back in Saquon, who was offensive player of the year.
You got two outstanding receivers. Yeah.
You got one of the two or three best defensive tackles in all of football. Does he understand what they have, what Howie Roseman has been able to build? You don't have that.
You on the hot seat. You can fire Mike McDaniel.
Hey, there's one thing that can save him, though. What? There's one thing that can save him.
If that offense looked like it did the previous season, not last season, if Tua stays upright and stays healthy and Waddle and Tyreek contribute the way they did, where they were what five in all categories statistically. Now that would help.
The community for the Dolphins has always been their offense. Let me ask you a question.
Even when they had the outstanding season, what good team did they beat? When the weather got cold, what team did they beat? They lost. That's also the year where everyone that they did beat was below 500.
Exactly. And when it got cold, what happened? Yeah.
So, now, I don't know if you noticed this, but teams that normally make the playoffs, Kansas City, cold in Kansas City in January. Yeah.
Baltimore. It's cold in Baltimore in January.
Yeah. Even in Denver.
It's cold in Denver. You better hope Las Vegas or the Chargers make it.
Yeah. So you indoors.
Because think about it, Ocho. Buffalo.
It's cold. Cincinnati.
It's cold. Pittsburgh.
Very cold. Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Denver, it's cold.

Kansas City, it's cold. So unless you have home field, Miami, or you play Las Vegas,

or you play the Chargers, you will be outside and probably in climate weather.

Yeah.

Something that in the history, as long as I can remember,

the Dolphins

have a fair

well in.

For some reason.

Be careful

what you ask for.

Be careful now.

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