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Speaker 4 But the Lakers. Lakers beat the Rockets 104 to 98, led by Luca, who had 20 points.
Dorian Phineas Smith had 20 points. Gabe Vinson shot the ball extremely well.
He had 20 points on six made threes.

Speaker 4 LeBron was 16, 8, 4 assists, two blocks, two steals, big block at the end of the game on Sungung. Austin Reeves chipped in with 12 points, eight rebounds, three assists, and two steals.

Speaker 4 This was a litmus test. This was to see where the Lakers are.
The Rockets had been playing extremely well, but the Lakers were up to the task.

Speaker 4 And the one thing they didn't do is they didn't give up that. uh uh it was the tie the score was tied at the half oh joy if i'm not mistaken i think 48 48.

Speaker 4 what they didn't do is that give up huge third quarter or huge fourth quarter they did it they held them to 50 points

Speaker 4 in the second half you can you can live with that you can you can live with that and uh in the process of doing that they outscored them

Speaker 4 by six and they that was the score they won by um really balanced score you got what 46 points off the bench and that's what you're going to have to have fanny smith was really really played really well off the bench uh gabe vinson was sensational off the bench six made threes um two free throws but uh i thought the guys played well i thought they played really well against a red hot team um did a great job of uh

Speaker 4 i just thought they played well they didn't shoot the ball well

Speaker 4 less than 40% from the floor, about 35% from the three-ocho. But if you watch this game, and I know you was on the flight, so I don't know how much of you saw.

Speaker 4 I don't know if they have had TNT on the flight, but I thought the Lakers. Look, can they play better? Yes.

Speaker 4 But when you play one of the better teams and you find ways to win, because these are games that the Lakers somehow sometimes find a way to lose. But it was a close ball game throughout.

Speaker 4 The Rockets got out to a nice, decent lead. The Lakers whirled them in, kept it close, then they blew the game, you know, ended up winning the game in the second half with

Speaker 4 key contributions from their big three. Luca was really good, controlled the pace of the game.

Speaker 4 LeBron made two free throws, had a big block on Sungoon.

Speaker 4 But I thought the difference in the ballgame tonight was their bench, Dorian Finney Smith and Gabe Benson combined for 40 points and 10 rebounds.

Speaker 4 And if the Lakers are going to go far, they're going to need that kind of production coming off the bench.

Speaker 4 It's not only production that they're going to need, obviously in transition, they have to play much better defensively. They have to play much better as well.

Speaker 4 These last few games before the playoffs start,

Speaker 4 they have to set a precedent and set a tone on how they're going to continue to play going into the postseason.

Speaker 4 Luke and LeBron, I think consistency is what they're going to have to have, you know, to go far into the, listen, if they even have an opportunity, you know, like you say, Lakers and fire to even get to the Western Congress finals.

Speaker 4 Let's say to that, they have to play much better collectively as a whole, and the bench has to be very productive and contribute as much as possible when they do get in.

Speaker 4 Yeah, look, since that injury, LeBron really hasn't shot the ball particularly well.

Speaker 4 Only one game since he's been back for the injury.

Speaker 4 Can I say something real quick about him coming back? I think for some reason, I don't know why, I think LeBron might have came back just a little bit too early.

Speaker 4 Knowing that they have opportunity to not only make the playoffs, but want to keep their seeding pretty high. I think LeBron might have came back a little early.

Speaker 4 And due to him still being injured and hampered just a little bit, I think it might be affecting his play in not only shot selection, but those shots actually going in. I could be wrong.

Speaker 4 I could be wrong, but I just think he might have came back a tad bit too early when he's not really ready or healthy. Well, he's not as explosive.
He's not able to finish like he once could.

Speaker 4 He's missing some gimmicks.

Speaker 4 And so the thing is, he's really nursing it because he don't want to do anything sudden and retweak it. And so, you know,

Speaker 4 hopefully as he plays, he doesn't have a setback that he's able to finish out the season as healthy as he's going to be.

Speaker 4 But normally when LeBron has an injury this late in the season, your body doesn't heal as well as it once did. And we've seen it.
He had the ankle injury. He wasn't the same.

Speaker 4 He had the groan injury before. He wasn't the same.

Speaker 4 But the thing is now he has Luca. He has AR who can help do some of the lifting.

Speaker 4 You got three guys. You have what, two, you got what? Five guys that double figures.
You got three guys that score at least 20. LeBron had 16.
AR had 12.

Speaker 4 You can win with that, but

Speaker 4 i think the thing is you can win with that bench play but obviously lebron luca ar know they're gonna have to get they're gonna have to score more than 48.

Speaker 4 they scored 85 the other night in memphis on the road they scored 48 they scored 48 tonight and find a way to get a win against a very good houston team young but very good listen against a very young good houston team but you have to think the further you get into the playoffs you're going to be playing against teams that are much better huh yeah for sure

Speaker 4 so they you're going to have to you're going to have to find ways to dig down to dig deep and you can't you can't you can't have games where you score 40 you score 85 one night you score 48 the next yeah because you're not gonna be able to get away with that the better the teams are that you play yeah as you get further into the playoffs this is a young athletic team um they're not a whole i mean you got van fleet but you look at thompson uh brooks is fairly young uh jalen green hell he might not be but 21 22 years of age uh jabar smith huh he that young yeah hell yeah

Speaker 4 he might i think he might be be 22. How old is Jalen Green? Jabari Smith, Jabari Smith Jr., he can't be no more than 22, 20.
He might not, hell, he might not even be but 20.

Speaker 4 Ah.

Speaker 4 Jalen Green is 23. How old is Jabari Smith? Jabari Smith might be 20, 21 at the oldest.

Speaker 4 See, they're a really young team. A really young team.

Speaker 4 They like to get up and down. But because of their head coach, who's a defensive guy, they get into you.

Speaker 4 they'll d you up they'll pick you up 54 they make it they don't want to give anything they don't want to give any free entry passes they'll overplay they'll deny um they play a physical brand of basketball uh they got big stephen adams in there uh big steve yeah he does a great job on the guy on the glass good in the pick and roll jai is kind of missing him because he and jai had a great connection um

Speaker 4 I think Zach Eady will get that down to years to come. But

Speaker 4 I like the way the Lakers played tonight, especially in the second half.

Speaker 4 Find a way to win ball games. And this is what you have to do.
Even when you're not playing your best, Ocho, find a way to win the ball game.

Speaker 4 So that big old block, LeBron knew that

Speaker 4 Sungoon had the mismatch or lost the Reeves.

Speaker 4 And so he's like, you know what? I'm going to cheat this. So, you know, hey, Houston, y'all got an amen, but they call me the Benediction.
Why?

Speaker 4 This thing over. Get it up out of here.

Speaker 4 So Benediction James

Speaker 4 did it and did what he needed to do. He came and got the ball in the free throws.
He made both free throws. Obviously, then they forced a miss at the other end.

Speaker 4 Finney Smith got the rebound, and that was the end of the ball game. But the Lakers played well.
They won the ballgame. And this is what, look, they got some tough games to close out.

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Speaker 4 Kiki Rice.

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Speaker 4 I'm doing great. How are y'all? How are we doing amazing? Well, congratulations.

Speaker 4 Has it really sunk into yet? Like, hold on. We're part of the first group of young women that's ever gone to the final four at UCLA.
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Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, after the buzzer went off, we were all celebrating it was just so special because like that's part of what i came here to do and part of what my class came here to do so we're just so excited that we were able to you know finally get to the final four and i'll kind of take that next step but you know we got two more games so we're excited for that getting ready to to head down there tomorrow

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Speaker 4 listen i i i have one question and i i really like this name when you think about postseason postseason stuff to do i saw something where you said you want to become an nba general manager after after your plan days are done.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Right. What's the first move you'd make if you happened to be a GM?

Speaker 4 I'm just curious, before we get into, you know, what you're doing right now in college, what would be the first move you make as a GM in NBA? First move.

Speaker 4 Well, if I was the GM of the Mavs, I would not have traded Luca.

Speaker 4 My first move for sure. Yep.
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Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Boy, you got it.
Kenki, okay, look at what you guys did. You lose the USC twice.
You beat them in the Pac-10 championship. Obviously, that was a huge compliment.

Speaker 4 Did that guys give you the confidence, or were you always confident that you had the type of team that could advance to the Final Four and potentially win it all?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, this whole season, we were ranked number one for most of the year. Obviously, top team in the country, but I do think, you know, like losing to a team twice is hard.

Speaker 4 And the SC is obviously a great team. Gigi is great.
And they have a lot of great players. So, but to finally, like, to beat them in our conference championship and

Speaker 4 over that hump, it definitely kind of, I think, gave us some more confidence just because we knew like, all right, like we finally kind of beat the one team that had beaten us this whole year.

Speaker 4 And now we're just like, kind of, you know, playing out the rest of the season, but we were really confident at that point for sure.

Speaker 4 You look at you guys, you played LSU and that game was nip and tuck very back and forth. I mean, you guys get to a 10-point lead, they whittle it down to two.

Speaker 4 You race out to an eight-point lead, they whittle it down to three.

Speaker 4 You guys, and then all of a sudden you get a couple big key rebounds and you kick it out to a hot-ass and she makes a couple of threes even though laura best said no don't shoot yoking what are you good job good job so yeah what are you thinking in that ball game you're like damn we're so close we had a 10-point lead and we don't let them cut it all the way down to two what's going through your mind as the game starts to get later in the ball game but the game starts to tighten up yeah i mean i think at one point i looked over at the scoreboard we were up like i think it was our biggest lead we're up like 13s in third quarter i was like all right like we got this like wow and then when i tried to get close it did definitely get a little nervous i'm like can't let this slip away especially because like lsu they were the team that knocked us out last year so like we needed that we needed that revenge you just wanted to get through the final four too and like obviously a lot on the line but um like we work we worked on special situations and just end game stuff so much in practice this year that i really had a lot of confidence that we were going to be able to find a way to get it done um but it is like you know we was a little bit nervous at the end there because they're they're a great team flag is great player and so like you know it's never over till the buzzer sounds so i just had to finish it out yeah speaking of speaking of finishing things up with the final four approaching how is the ucla team preparing to face the next challenge and if there were any lessons that you learned from the lsu game what are they to make sure you don't have to deal with the next team coming in whoever you do have to face

Speaker 4 not not the game not being as close as it got you con up next and paid cookies

Speaker 4 oh my goodness yeah so the game doesn't doesn't be as close as it was this last time you actually close it out out without having to be fearful, you know, towards the end of the game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, I do think like at this point of the year, like we're prepared that every team that we're going to play is going to be a great team.

Speaker 4 So like we know matchups are going to be closed, like the games are going to be close down the line. So we just got to be comfortable in those moments.

Speaker 4 And I think like having played a few of those games will help us, you know,

Speaker 4 just because we have that like close game experience. But you know, we're, you know, we'll watch scout, watch film, kind of get ready.

Speaker 4 I think we played Yukon last year, actually. So like having that experience playing them and we played really well.
We beat them last year will be good for our confidence for sure.

Speaker 4 Kiki, who are some of the women that you watched growing up, obviously being a fabulous player that you are, who are some of the women that you watch and says, you know what, that's, I kind of what, kind of molded your game or kind of some of the women that inspired you to play basketball?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, I grew up watching Skylar Diggins, Erike,

Speaker 4 Diana Taurasi.

Speaker 4 And not only like in basketball, but like I loved watching like Serena Williams and Alex Morgan and like other like,

Speaker 4 you know, really fantastic women in other sports to just kind of to see them be great at their craft. And that really inspired me for sure.
Why UCLA?

Speaker 4 I mean, obviously, UCLA is really not known as a women's basketball program. You have UConn, you have the Lady Gamecock, you have LSU, Tennessee, or probably Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 It's probably more known as women college basketball. What made you choose UCLA? Yeah, exactly because I felt like, you know, UCLA is not as known.
And like,

Speaker 4 obviously it was like it's going to make it known. Exactly.
Like,

Speaker 4 I didn't want to go to a program that had a bunch of national championships, that been to the final four a bunch of times.

Speaker 4 Like, I felt like it makes it even more special to go to a place and help it become that level of, that level of program.

Speaker 4 So I think, you know, having that all come into like, you know, reality now just makes makes it even more special.

Speaker 4 I just swear today that Olivia Miles, the Notre Dame player, she's projected to be number two.

Speaker 4 But instead of entering the WNBA draft, she entered the transfer portal are you surprised by this i was really surprised by that one honestly yeah really surprised i mean look she's gonna be would be probably the number two pick and you're deciding to come back to college i mean i think it speaks to like nil and what you can get um in college and you know how great you know the college experience is but like i don't think that happens often someone who's going to be uh for sure lottery pick decides to come back to college.

Speaker 4 I mean, I don't know exactly what went into her decision, but yeah, I was surprised for sure. Yeah,

Speaker 4 what is your decision? She's going going to make more money in college than she would be the rookie at the WNBA. That's what went into her decision, Kiki.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 If it makes dollars, it makes sense. Congratulations.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

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Speaker 4 speaking of the WNBA, if you can build your starting five, any current NBA or WNBA players, who are you picking? I'd say I'd more say WNBA. Who would your starting five be? Let's see.
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Speaker 4 I'm going Chelsea Gray.

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Speaker 4 that's the Chelsea that I was expecting to see last year when she came back. But you can tell the way she's playing now versus the way she played.

Speaker 4 And when she got back in the Olympics, that wasn't her. This is her that we saw in the unrivaled leading her team to the first title in the unrivaled.
Yeah, she was tough in that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, she was playing real well.

Speaker 4 So let me ask you, so let me ask you this. You give a pro probably got approached by a lot of companies wanting to be you, wanting to do this NIL.
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Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of it is like based based on if I feel like we can build like a long-term partnership and just like how, um, like how much money y'all got. Yeah, exactly.
No,

Speaker 4 no, yeah, that has to be good money. Uh,

Speaker 4 but like, I think, you know, feeling like the brand or company is like, you know, aligned with my values and everything.

Speaker 4 And like, obviously, um, you know, I don't want to be like associated with any, anyone that's going to like, you know, kind of bring harm to my brand and my name and everything. And then, yeah,

Speaker 4 part of it is, is money also. I mean, like, got to do things that make sense.
Um,

Speaker 4 and, and things that I care about too. I think, like, that's when I get like more into doing it.
And it becomes more organic because it's like, I care about the cause or whatever it is. But

Speaker 4 you're the first, you're the first NIL athlete to sign with Jordan brand. Do you understand?

Speaker 4 I mean, look, there's no, there's not a knock on anybody else, uh, Nike and Adidas and Under Armor or whatever the case may be. Yeah.
But you know, the logo. That's what it go about, the logo.

Speaker 4 And you're the first. When you, when you like, have you really thought about having you like, hey, look at these, look at these J.
I got these one. I got these left.
I got these fours.

Speaker 4 I mean, what is that? What is that? What does that feel like? What does that mean to you? To me, it feels like a lot of a big shoe collection and a lot of shoes that I have.

Speaker 4 No, it's great, though. I mean, yeah, one of the best parts of it is all the gear and everything for sure.

Speaker 4 But I do think like kind of being aligned with like a brand like Jordan, like any, you know, any basketball player you grow up and like you idolize Michael Jordan, you know what he, he did for the game and what he means

Speaker 4 to all of us. So I think like for, for me to be the first and uh athlete that Jordan chose to sign, like it just like,

Speaker 4 it, it was kind of a surreal moment when it all happened. And for it to be like at such a young age, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Like I signed my senior year of high school, like going into college and everything. So

Speaker 4 it really just like kind of, it motivated me to continue to work hard because it's like, all right, like I have a lot, a lot to live up to, but also like a lot more coming if I continue to put in the work.

Speaker 4 One more thing, Ocho, before you, one more thing. Let me ask you this.
Give me the five shoes, Jordan shoes, you don't have that you really, really want.

Speaker 4 I don't have honestly, I don't think I have any. There's none that I want that I don't have.
Damn, you got about damn. Yeah, what's really going on? Don't kick you with shoot your boy.
I'm 13. I'm 13.

Speaker 4 I got you. I got you, Shannon.

Speaker 4 I mean, so, hey, so I mean, you know, obviously the

Speaker 4 ducks and, you know, all the signatures, they don't have, they don't make a whole lot of them. Did you get the, did you get there? Did you get the Dior Jordans? Or did you get the Virgins? No.

Speaker 4 You ain't got those. You want to get those, huh? Yeah, I'll ask for those for sure.
Yeah, I need those.

Speaker 4 I don't blame you. Shoot for the stars.
You land on the moon. You still got a great collection.
Exactly.

Speaker 4 Listen,

Speaker 4 outside of basketball.

Speaker 4 uh i've learned some interesting things about you for one you like marble yeah two you love to cook and you're scuba certified yeah i'm i'm i'm i'm scuba certified too really okay okay yeah no the first thing i have to ask what i am scuba certified don't worry about it go ahead go ahead okay

Speaker 4 i just want to know

Speaker 4 sorry sorry about that where's the coolest place you go on diving the coolest place i went diving was in mozambique

Speaker 4 what yeah

Speaker 4 how how how was it it was that was dope it was really cool the water there so like so clear and pretty and to see see, I think we saw, yeah, we saw a shark there, which is really cool.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 4 That was my next question. Have there been any scares when you've been diving?

Speaker 4 Because I, I got scared when I went, when I went to scuba diving, because I ran into a whale shark by accident and I obviously didn't, didn't realize how big they were until they get right up on you, even though they're not hostile, but just still.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the shark that,

Speaker 4 yeah, it was definitely, it was not, it wasn't that big. It was like a, I can't remember what kind of shark.
It wasn't that big, but it was definitely scary.

Speaker 4 I mean, like, it's not, not not cool to come up on a shark when you're diving yeah no um just not just the idea of it but i haven't had any any crazy scaries i mean i think like one of the scariest parts is honestly making sure i'm doing everything right so i'm not like messing up and like messing up the tank or all that but yeah

Speaker 4 listen all right the fact that you love to cook i can't cook worth a damn i'm horrible and i think that might be one of the reasons why i've been left by everybody that i've dated is because i can't cook but what is your go-to dish let's say if you try and impress somebody

Speaker 4 it's your go-to dish every time and that's what you're gonna make because you know they're gonna like it yeah i'll make some tacos i know i can't hell kiki tacos i mean i thought you were gonna say i would whip up some pasta some leaf queen

Speaker 4 i'll keep it simple so i know i don't mess it up

Speaker 4 hey let less is less is more less is more

Speaker 4 and also you're a big marvel fan so which marvel character do you think would make the best basketball player just hypothetically speaking if there was a marvel character that actually played basketball who would be the best like the actor or the

Speaker 4 the character yeah the character

Speaker 4 um

Speaker 4 probably captain america

Speaker 4 ah i like that

Speaker 4 i like that kinky you also played high school you played high school soccer one gator raid player of the year what went into the decision for you to choose basketball over soccer yeah i thought for a little bit about doing both in college but i just felt like that would be too much so i think like playing one sport is already enough, but to do both.

Speaker 4 And I think the biggest thing was also just like, I didn't want to take my time away from the sport that I liked the most, which is basketball.

Speaker 4 And like, I wanted to, you know, I want to be a pro, I want to do a lot of things. And I think I needed to focus like fully on that.
But I think the biggest thing was just feeling like.

Speaker 4 like the basketball community i liked more than the soccer community um just my teammates the teams i was on and all that stuff i think um that's what like really drew me to just continue to play basketball but you know i liked this the fact that she played soccer.

Speaker 4 And that makes me that much more of a fan now. But this can all change based on your answer.
All right.

Speaker 4 Crashano or Messi? Messi.

Speaker 4 That's what I'm talking about Kiki. That's what I'm talking about.
Kiki. Kiki.

Speaker 4 Kiki.

Speaker 4 Has to be Messi. Night, we done.
I did the white Z. See what I'm saying? Go.
I've been trying to test. Kiki, I've been trying to tell this man this for the better part of two years.

Speaker 4 He ain't want to hear nothing I got to say. So, whoop, there it is.

Speaker 4 It's okay, it's all it's all good.

Speaker 4 I mean, she knows greatness. She played soccer, she was Gatorade player of the year.

Speaker 4 You know how many people drink Gatorade?

Speaker 4 You know how many Gatorade players they are, and she was copped out.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I was expecting a different answer. I know you were, but don't worry about it.
You got

Speaker 4 Messy. Messy.

Speaker 4 In the documentary full court press, you mentioned that you grew up watching President Obama. And I think you had an aunt that was like a national security

Speaker 4 advisor to during the President Obama's administration, correct? Yes.

Speaker 4 Did you get an opportunity to meet him? Yes, I have met him actually.

Speaker 4 Okay. Yeah.
Probably the coolest thing, like congratulations text I got was Obama texted my aunt yesterday and said, congrats.

Speaker 4 That's probably probably the coolest thing for sure. That's dope.
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 That is unbelievable.

Speaker 4 What else? So what did you like to do in your free time? So when you're not practicing basketball, you're not cooking tacos, what does Kiki like to do?

Speaker 4 I love to shop, which probably isn't the best habit, but I love to do that.

Speaker 4 Oh, your little NIO money gone, so you get it.

Speaker 4 Exactly. No, I love to shop,

Speaker 4 travel, hang out with my teammates.

Speaker 4 I mean, I don't have a ton of free time, but I would say just actually, I'd like to go to the beach too. I like to sit outside, just hang out.
That's probably.

Speaker 4 Well, you in the perfect place to go to the beach. What's over here? Venice beach or Santa Monica?

Speaker 4 Malibu.

Speaker 4 I mean, if I'm going to lay out, I'll go to Malibu. It's much different.

Speaker 4 But Santa Monica, if I got to go to like a close one, yeah, over Venice.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Venice is crowded. Malibu.
Malibu, once you get on up there, I mean, you got some nice spots. I mean, it does get a little crowded, but

Speaker 4 that water cold, man.

Speaker 4 It's cold out here.

Speaker 4 It's cold, people.

Speaker 4 You don't get in the water, though. Oh, yeah.
People think that the West Coast water is like the East, where the East is like warm. Yeah.
This Pacific, oh, no.

Speaker 4 It's different. It's different.

Speaker 4 I got one last question. Go ahead, Ocean.
What legacy do you hope to leave at UCLA? And how do you envision influencing the next generation of female athletes?

Speaker 4 I hope to leave a legacy of championships here.

Speaker 4 I want to bring, like, I got two years left. So, two national championships, two more Final Fours,

Speaker 4 another conference championship. And then I think the biggest thing is I want to influence the culture here.
I want to continue to help us

Speaker 4 be a winning program and be,

Speaker 4 you know, just a program that continues to produce like great. great players and great people.

Speaker 4 And then in terms of my legacy,

Speaker 4 I mean, I want to to be known as the hardest working person in every room and in every team that I'm on.

Speaker 4 I like it. Well, Kiki, congratulations on advancing to the final four.
Best of luck in the final four. And look forward to watching you and your continued success.
Hey, y'all cut down the net.

Speaker 4 Come back, join Uncanocho and tell us all about it. All right.
Thanks, y'all. Thanks for having me.
Appreciate you. Thanks for coming on with us.

Speaker 4 Kiki Rice, UCLA outstanding player in the Final Four for the very first time in lady brewing history. Got to be an unbelievable honor.
Seems like to me, she wants to be, she wants to be Asia.

Speaker 4 Asia started this at South Carolina. She goes there.
She was the top basketball player in the country. She goes to a program that's really not known for ladies basketball.

Speaker 4 And lo and behold, she starts it. And now a bunch of final fours later, three national championships later.
Player of the year, Asia was player of the year. Aaliyah Boston was player of the year.

Speaker 4 And now Lady Gamecocks cocks are right up there with the uh the ucons and the tennis seas when you think about lady women's college basketball they're one of the most prominent programs in uh uh in the ncaa so uh congratulations ucla good luck best of luck kiki but ocho

Speaker 4 They don't have an easy, they won't have an easy opponent. UConn advanced to the final four for the 24th time, beating USC 78-64 in the Elite Eight.
Paige Buckets, Beckers, 31 points, 6-assists.

Speaker 4 That's coming off a game in which she dropped 40. Sarah Strong had 22 points and 17 rebounds as they led the Huskies to their 24th Final Four appearances.

Speaker 4 UCOT is hoping to win the first national championship since 2016. We'll face UCLA in its Final Four run on Friday.
USC's Final Four drought continues with tonight loss.

Speaker 4 USC will head the next season with its Final Four drought set at 40 years.

Speaker 4 The Trojans last made it. Cheryl Miller, final season of the player, when they were national runner-up um

Speaker 4 they lost to the uh lady longhorns that year i think uh clarissa davis i think they were 35-0 um that year but they did win back-to-back national championships in 83 84 because they beat latec the lady teamsters uh

Speaker 4 so

Speaker 4 long drought we knew it was going to be an uphill climb without juju they were their work cut out even with juju with juju so i have a i have a question if juju was playing do you think there was a chance that they would have had a better chance oh absolutely yeah do you think they still would have lost i'm not gonna say that but i'm saying juju is one of the two or three best players in college basketball i'm not so sure she's two or three if you get where i'm going with this yes she's sensational absolutely they have a chance and we were hoping because we saw what that matchup was last year so we were just hoping that came back again and when they were on the same side it lined up perfectly okay we're about to get this matchup again

Speaker 4 And unfortunately,

Speaker 4 we did not get that.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 it is what it is. Hey, Juju will be back stronger and better than ever.
I don't know if she's had the surgery, but

Speaker 4 Paige said they exchanged information. Paige has torn her ACL.
She's gone through this. There are a lot of players that have torn their ACL that can have a conversation.
Keep her up.

Speaker 4 It's just a minor setback for a major comeback. Reach out to Adrian Peterson.

Speaker 4 Obviously, it's a little different, you know, football and basketball but i have no doubt in my mind that juju watkins is going to come back and she'll be as good if not better

Speaker 4 than what she was before so yeah but you can't ukon's gonna be tough ukon's gonna be tough they good they've been uh uh geno is as good at at the college game he's the greatest woman's college coach i'm not so sure you're gonna tell me there are four or five up men coaches that are better than geno based on what he's done uh and with that being said uh

Speaker 4 you never say never Ocho, because in one game, anything can happen. Somebody get hot shooting threes, they can make a bunch of threes and shoot you out of the jail.
But the way Paige is playing,

Speaker 4 boy, they got their work cut out for her. She's all, I mean, you remember when Caitlin Clark went on that run the last couple of years, Caitlin Clark would have blowing up everybody.

Speaker 4 Paige is Paige Beckers is having that type of game. She dropped 40 and then she dropped 31.

Speaker 4 That's going to be difficult, a difficult handle. As a Fudz had not played particularly well lately, but when you get Paige playing as well as she's playing, you know, Fuds

Speaker 4 could go off. And then the lady tonight,

Speaker 4 what was it? Sarah Strong, 22 points and 17 rebounds.

Speaker 4 Huh? She's a fresh. Yeah.
And so now that tells me

Speaker 4 when you get that many rebounds on your, you'll get some second chance points because they ain't all defensive rebounds.

Speaker 4 She's getting some of those on the offensive end, which is that if she doesn't put it back, she's going to give you an opportunity to get a lot of second-chance points. So,

Speaker 4 it's going to be a very tough matchup for UCLA. But UCLXA, we belong.
We've been ranked number one. I think they've only lost two games.
What they lost two games all year. I think USC beat them twice.

Speaker 4 I don't think they lost another game, did they?

Speaker 4 Or did they lose the

Speaker 4 okay? So, they lost me with an hour

Speaker 4 Early lost to Tennessee on the road.

Speaker 4 So it's going to be a great matchup. We can't wait to see it.

Speaker 4 Texas top TCU to advance to its first final four since 2003. The Hornfrogs ended the first half with more turnovers, 11 than made field goals, 7.

Speaker 4 TCU finished the the game with 21 turnovers on just 12 made field goals. Texas have that ability.
I mean, I can see a game where it's 35, 34. USC and Texas,

Speaker 4 excuse me, they play each other.

Speaker 4 They know each other.

Speaker 4 They're in the same conference, Ocho.

Speaker 4 Texas beat Texas snap USC's SEC winning streak.

Speaker 4 And then, you know, USC returned the favor when they got him in the conference championship. But hey, team, two teams that are very familiar with each other.
Both of them play outstanding defense.

Speaker 4 It's going to be a great matchup. We know what Don Staley is.
She's been here. She's done that.

Speaker 4 They don't have the shoot. I'm not going to say they don't have it because they have the same women on the squad that made a lot of pow pow.
And, you know, Chloe Kiss can dominate the glass.

Speaker 4 I think Raven Johnson, they have got, they have young ladies that can make the shots.

Speaker 4 They just, for whatever reason, they haven't made them this year so it's gonna be a very very interesting matchup i think it's gonna be i i think it's gonna be a low scoring game ojo because both of these teams get out there defensively

Speaker 4 what um

Speaker 4 what they they play they play friday or sat both both are friday

Speaker 4 friday right okay

Speaker 4 let's let's go to the game because they they uh they play friday because the championship game is sunday because the men's championship game is monday but it used to be the women played after the men

Speaker 4 i think they did. I think they did.

Speaker 4 You heard me? Huh? Y'all want to go to the game?

Speaker 4 It's in Tampa.

Speaker 4 You don't want to go to the game. I just want to.
That's on the other side of the country, bro.

Speaker 4 That's right down.

Speaker 4 That's right down the road from you, bro. That ain't right down the road for me.

Speaker 4 I know it's right down the road for me, but I'm inviting you to go to the game and we can sit coreside and we could talk.

Speaker 4 Obviously, we'll probably have a show. No, we don't have the show Friday.
We could talk about it Saturday. No, we ain't ain't got a show.
No, I gotta be. I gotta be in.
I'm gonna be in Virginia.

Speaker 4 I got a prior engagement. I'm inviting you to watch the game in six months.
I also have a prior engagement.

Speaker 4 I have a prior engagement. What's more important? The engagement or your co-host inviting you to sit courtside

Speaker 4 at the game. I promised my brother I would do something with him.

Speaker 4 He's been in your life all this time.

Speaker 4 He's going to be in my life, too.

Speaker 4 All right. But hey, I'm expecting to be here too.

Speaker 4 I mean, I got a prior engagement, Ocho. All right.
And you know, I get my word. I, you know.

Speaker 4 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 4 Okay. But

Speaker 4 I invite somebody else. All right.

Speaker 4 Chan, Chan, you want to go to the game? No. Of course I.
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Speaker 4 Oh, yo, the New Holland Pelicans have shut down Zion Williamson and C.J. McCollum for the rest of the season due to

Speaker 4 Zion. In 2019, 2020, he played 24 games.
In 2020, 2020, 21, he played 61 games. In 21, 22, he played zero games.
2020, 22, 23, he played 29 games.

Speaker 4 23, 24, 70 games. This year, 30 games.
He's earned almost $115 million dollars

Speaker 4 they're 82 games season right

Speaker 4 but the uh 1920 that was the uh that was the uh covered year right so they didn't play a full season

Speaker 4 1920 yeah

Speaker 4 but he missed 21 games he missed 82 games he missed 53 games he missed 12 games he missed 52 games I have a question yes sir

Speaker 4 who was it we just talked about

Speaker 4 where they did a test and decided because of his injury history, they didn't want to sign it?

Speaker 4 Was it the Lakers, if I'm mistaken? The dude from Charlotte.

Speaker 4 I can't remember his name.

Speaker 4 I know what you're talking about, though. Yes.

Speaker 4 Did Zion Williams, before entering the draft, despite how great he was coming in, did he have an injury history? Was he injury?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 So all this is new.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But you have to understand how many people

Speaker 4 go from playing, what,

Speaker 4 25, 30 games in high school, 30, 35 games in college, if you go all the way to the final four to start to play 82.

Speaker 4 More demands on the body, more grueling, hey, back-to-backs. You ain't paying, you know, you're not playing back-to-back in college.
You're not playing back-to-backs in high school.

Speaker 4 Okay, well, what's the answer? Because they're multiple. I'm not sure how many NBA players there are in the NBA, but they've been playing 83 games for a long time.
Injuries do happen. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But do injuries have some people are predisposed. Some people have, you know,

Speaker 4 your health, the way you're built, the way you run, the way you land.

Speaker 4 There are a lot of things that go into it. But

Speaker 4 at this rate,

Speaker 4 we haven't been able to play a full season yet to date. But here's the thing, OJo, when you talk about a man his size,

Speaker 4 when have you seen somebody that size, that explosive?

Speaker 4 Shit, not like that. No, exactly.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 until, you know, I think the thing is, he's a little heavy. Now, he looked good.
He came back. They said he was 264, which is as light as he's been since he's been in the NBA.

Speaker 4 Light? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Man, how the hell are you jumping like that at 264? No, he was jumping like that at 284, 300.

Speaker 4 He's explosive.

Speaker 4 but that's a lot. I mean, think about it.
Thank you. Thank you.
You know, a

Speaker 4 plant and stopping and cutting. You were able to do that because you were like, just imagine somebody 225 trying to stop, plant, and speed out, cut like you did.

Speaker 4 Exactly.

Speaker 4 Hey, listen, something got to get. Exactly.
Exactly. He is a

Speaker 4 he is a

Speaker 4 he has an 18-wheeler body, but he has a Ferrari engine in it.

Speaker 4 And so he's so explosive. He gets so much elevation.

Speaker 4 At some point in time, all that bounding, up and down, up and down, running in and out. And you have to stay on top of it, OJo.

Speaker 4 You have to get your treatment, but make sure you ice in your knees and your ankles.

Speaker 4 Look at LeBron. A lot of times, LeBron, he got ice packs on his back.
As soon as the game over, he got ice packs on his back. He got his feet in the cold tub.
He got ice bags on his knees.

Speaker 4 Man, I remember when I first got to the league, Ocho, man, I saw them guys getting in cold tub and ice. I said, man, get y'all old ass out of here.
They said, okay, keep on playing.

Speaker 4 By year five, my young ass was in the cold tub.

Speaker 4 So, I mean,

Speaker 4 are the Pelicans to blame at all, or is everything, is the onus on this and the injuries year after year after year? Is this all on Zion? Just curious.

Speaker 4 Well, I mean, look, look, they, I mean, Ocho, you can only do so much. I mean,

Speaker 4 what you do and what you do, how you eat, how you prepare, are you getting enough rest? There are a lot of things that go into it. Teams cannot watch you 24-7.

Speaker 4 You can't. That's where the really good players, they do it away.
Because if all you do is what's required of you, you're never going to be great. You're never going to be great.

Speaker 4 You see,

Speaker 4 I was reading the quote, Will I Am said. He said, work-life balance is for someone that's fulfilling somebody else's dream

Speaker 4 you got work-life balance you paying for somebody else kids to go to college

Speaker 4 you're paying for their second and third home right that's not yours So what is it that Zion wants to do? How great does he want to be?

Speaker 4 Because if you want to be great and ask anybody that wants to be great, I'm talking about great, great.

Speaker 4 Ask them what their work-life balance is about go ask steph curry go ask lebron go ask anybody that wants to be great tom brady michael jordan magic johnson go ask anybody

Speaker 4 everybody don't want that greatness the ocho yeah

Speaker 4 talk about it all the time i can't want it you can't want something more for that somebody wanted for themselves right

Speaker 4 I don't care how much money you give somebody because eventually that stimula will go away.

Speaker 4 If if you're not a very self-motivated person there ain't enough money in the world to keep you motivated but we've seen guys 100 million dollar contract 200 million dollar contract and give it all up

Speaker 4 john just got to make it to what's what's important to him what does he want to do why i mean how how does he want to be remembered hey

Speaker 4 he's made money he's he's he's made a lot of money he's made 115 million

Speaker 4 that's that's an nba salary not counting what he's made off the court. He has a brand Jordan deal that probably plays him $10 million a year.
He can just live off that.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm sure he has some local stuff in New Orleans. I'm sure he has some local brands there that he's doing stuff with.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 there's a price. Oh, Joe, there's a price to be paid for greatness.

Speaker 4 And if you're not willing to pay that price, you don't deserve to be great. You don't deserve to be successful.

Speaker 4 Ain't no sugar coat it.

Speaker 4 Everybody doesn't want that.

Speaker 4 They don't. Everybody don't want to be great, Ocho.
People talk about greatness, but if you understood what it required of you,

Speaker 4 I think someone like him, as great as he was, you know, in college.

Speaker 4 I would think and I would hope he would want to continue that greatness. And I think it's just been, it's been derailed due to obviously the injuries,

Speaker 4 maybe the weight, obviously being the size that he is and being as explosive that he is, having that combination,

Speaker 4 it doesn't see fit. And the first thing they give is your body,

Speaker 4 certain parts of your body. So

Speaker 4 I would think, you know, becoming or getting a little smaller similar to what Dak has done and dropping, what, 20, 30 pounds, however much they said Dakota, I think.

Speaker 4 You know, it would behoove him to do just that. I'm not sure who the people are around him, you know, who his team is.

Speaker 4 I'm hoping he doesn't have a team of yes people, you know, that don't want to challenge him in any way that they see fit, you know, so they don't get their water cut off, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 I do. It's hard to find people like that, though, Joe.

Speaker 4 I'm very fortunate that

Speaker 4 I have friends that, and my sister, my sister,

Speaker 4 and she don't care. Yeah.
I'm like.

Speaker 4 You talking to me like this? You know, I pay all your bills.

Speaker 4 I might have you out on the street. You talking reckless to be like this right right but it's honest and i need that she gonna check me

Speaker 4 yeah

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 4 it's not easy ocho um because greatness requires

Speaker 4 greatness is boring because it's a very monotonous tedious job because you do the same thing over and over over and over and over if you look at people now i'm not talking about now I wonder how many vacations Jeff Bezos took when he was trying to build Amazon.

Speaker 4 I wonder the guys that started Google, how many, how many vacations they took when they were trying to build it. Well, when you work 200 billion, you go you can go wherever you want to go now.

Speaker 4 I'm talking about in the process of building. Right.

Speaker 4 Man, I need, bro, work-life balance is not for people that desires greatness.

Speaker 4 It ain't.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 I don't know the effects, and I don't know.

Speaker 4 What would happen if, and I mean no disrespect, what would happen if a player of Zion's caliber, would he still have that same explosiveness if he took the alternative route and taking something like Ozempic?

Speaker 4 I don't know. I don't know if that's legal.
Excuse me if you've been asking. I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
I'm just asking, you know. It's probably, it's probably banned.

Speaker 4 I mean, in order for you to take anything, I mean, look, it's best to run it through the NBA, let the medical doctor say it's probably banned unless you have diabetes.

Speaker 4 It's a diabetic, it's a diabetic drug, Ocho. That's what it was intended for.
Right, okay, okay, okay. So, unless you got diabetes,

Speaker 4 the NBA, the NFL, the MLB probably not going to let you take it, right?

Speaker 4 I don't know. I listen, I'm sure they've been trying to be a part of the world.

Speaker 4 There's sacrifice that comes along with that. You must be willing to deny yourself certain things.
Right. See, discipline requires you to do your very best when no one else is watching.

Speaker 4 You see, discipline, okay, I want to do this.

Speaker 4 I I need to do that.

Speaker 4 Do I do this or do I do that? That's what discipline does.

Speaker 4 I can remember, though,

Speaker 4 when Zion came in,

Speaker 4 the way they were talking, the way they hyped him up based on what he had already done in college, you do realize he was the one that's supposed to place LeBron and be in the face of the league. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 they were pushing. I remember

Speaker 4 they were pushing that. And I was, I was, listen, I would have loved to see someone, you know, take that torch and have that torch

Speaker 4 passed on to him. But, I mean, I think the injuries have just derailed it.

Speaker 4 And at this point, being that he's not even played an 82-game season yet, I mean, why not take the alternative route and doing something else that makes it could take the weight off you right there?

Speaker 4 But if it's something the NBA won't allow, I mean, I don't even know if you, if you were to, if you were to take the zimpic, I mean, because Ozimpic wastes muscle and you'll never get it back.

Speaker 4 Um,

Speaker 4 look at people, look at people that take Ozimpic and look at their musculature.

Speaker 4 Is this there? There's no.

Speaker 4 There's no up to the muscle. Look at people.
Look at people that take Ozimpic and look at their definition. It's just

Speaker 4 nothing.

Speaker 4 Right. Yeah, but listen, if you don't have the muscle,

Speaker 4 that takes away some of the explosion as well.

Speaker 4 If you strip muscle away, where do you think the muscle? You got muscle in your glutes, your hamstring, your quads. Yeah, absolutely.
It's going to impact you. Yes.

Speaker 4 okay never mind on that then

Speaker 4 mind on that

Speaker 4 uh i just think the thing is what's important to him it's got uh

Speaker 4 it's not important enough to him yet uh he got down to 264 so he showed there's a level of discipline that he does have uh

Speaker 4 uh uh

Speaker 4 so

Speaker 4 I just wish, I wish, you know, somebody, but like, no, I don't wish anything. I wish, I wish Zion.
This, this is a Zion issue.

Speaker 4 This is not about people around him, because because at the end of the day zion is is zion's biggest enemy jimmy haslam

Speaker 4 called the browns trade for deshawn watson a big swinging miss in march 2022 cleveland browns acquired deshaun wasson from the texans in a trade package that included three first-round draft picks the browns then signed Deshaun to a $230 million contract, fully guaranteed.

Speaker 4 Since joining the Browns, he started just 19 games because of suspension and injuries. Posted one of the lowest total QBRs in the NFL.
Suffer consecutive season injuries in 23 and 24.

Speaker 4 We took a big swing and miss with Deshaun Hazlam said today. We thought we had our quarterback and we didn't.
We gave up a lot of draft picks to get him. So we dug ourselves out of that hole.

Speaker 4 The trade was the entire organization's decision and it ends with D and I. So hold us accountable.
I love that.

Speaker 4 I mean, you know, Jimmy has made some mistakes but he's he's faith because here's the thing ocho you do realize when they signed the sean watson deshaun wason had not even started on the contract extension that the houston texans had gave him yeah

Speaker 4 he hadn't even started that they gave him an extra 80 million

Speaker 4 and he hadn't even started on the contract

Speaker 4 that was supposed to happen yeah

Speaker 4 remember we just i just talked about this yesterday about being able to get the truth When's the last time you heard an owner come out and say something like this? At any point? Or GM. I like it.

Speaker 4 At any point ever in the history, in the history. Even

Speaker 4 Ocho, even though it's very obvious, because ain't no general manager going to sign off, can sign off on 230.

Speaker 4 That's got to go all the way to the top. Way to the top.
But they would never say it, though.

Speaker 4 They would never say it. This is unprecedented because they would never do this.
And I just, and you just got on me laughing about hearing the truth. Yes.

Speaker 4 I keep coming out and saying it like it is. Everybody else will say it.
Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 you know the man. You know the man feeling some type of way.
He said this. Deshaun Wasser is still on his team.
Yeah. Matter of fact, he's still in the

Speaker 4 he's in the he's in the building. Oh, Joe.
I give you better.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe. How about this here? I married the wrong woman while still being married.

Speaker 4 Not after you got a divorce. Oh, Joe.
You know what I'm saying? I get a divorce. I've been been together.
We've been together five, six years. Hey, I've been

Speaker 4 say that one more time. I don't think the people in chat heard you.
Say it one more time. I'm still married.
And I say, you know what? Had a big swing and miss. Married the wrong woman.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 man, listen. Listen,

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 4 I don't know how things will go.

Speaker 4 I don't know how things will go. Deshaun will come back.

Speaker 4 I think they still owe him like, what, like 80 million dollars over the next two years, Ocho.

Speaker 4 82, if I'm not mistaken. 82 if I'm not mistaken.
Do they take a quarterback in the draft?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 what's Levin picking?

Speaker 4 The Giants are making three, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Titans of one.

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 4 what are they? What are they picking? Two.

Speaker 4 that that's that's that's a big distance. You got to get a quarterback.
You got to get a quarterback.

Speaker 4 Do you think, but hold on, hold on, hold on. They're only 92 million, they're only 46 million next two years.
Okay,

Speaker 4 hold on,

Speaker 4 they got to get a quarterback, right? Yes,

Speaker 4 what you thinking,

Speaker 4 Cam, Shador?

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 it all depends on what Tennessee does at one, because you don't control ish at two.

Speaker 4 Everything is being controlled by one.

Speaker 4 What does Tennessee need? Quarterback.

Speaker 4 And where do you think Abdul Carter is going to go?

Speaker 4 Everybody believes that the Tennessee Titans are taking Cam Ward with one.

Speaker 4 I have a question. Yes.

Speaker 4 You know what? I'm not going to do any comparisons. Okay, Cam Ward at one.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 Abdul Carter, I thought he might be the one to go first. Tennessee might pull a wool

Speaker 4 over everybody's eyes, but obviously, they do need a quarterback.

Speaker 4 I'm assuming they don't believe in Will Levis

Speaker 4 with the mistakes and inconsistencies that he's made.

Speaker 4 How the hell I'm going to believe in Will Levis and this Joker got us picking one?

Speaker 4 Hell, you talking about believe in it?

Speaker 4 He really went this position.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hell no.

Speaker 4 Listen, normally normally we're we're able to at least when the draft comes along you can tell the first three picks indefinite who's going to wear in that order now and once you get the four ain't no telling what's going to happen

Speaker 4 this year draft i don't know who's going to won yeah i i just don't now that we know tennison is a quarterback but who do they like more do they like cam do they like shador the new york giants the giants have to take a quarterback the browns have to take a quarterback but you know everybody keeps saying that uh you know the Giants said, well, you know,

Speaker 4 we don't have to take a quarterback.

Speaker 4 And yes, yes, you do. That's why you're in that position.

Speaker 4 They're going to say whatever they want to say.

Speaker 4 For one, this is what the league is known for doing, is they're going to lie. They're going to lie and hope you pass who they really want.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because Lyon wants you to trade up to get it, especially.

Speaker 4 The only way I can prevent somebody from taking is that I'm in the one spot. Because you can't trade above one.

Speaker 4 And I ain't trade, which like in Harlem and Harlem Knights. And I ain't trading, Punk.

Speaker 4 Well, it depends. Now, you never know what packet

Speaker 4 someone from below you might give you in exchange for that number one pick if they want said player bad enough, then come kitty.

Speaker 4 But here's the thing.

Speaker 4 Do you believe the guy?

Speaker 4 Because ain't no price tag.

Speaker 4 You can't offer kansas city enough for patrick mahomes you can't offer cincinnati enough you can't offer uh buffalo enough you can't offer baltimore enough so the question is do you believe that the guy the quarterback that you take is going to give you 10 years of prosperity wait a minute now look at the names you just said

Speaker 4 but let me ask you a question what was what did you think those guys were do you think those guys Did you think Josh Allen was going to be what he was? What he turned out to be?

Speaker 4 Lamar Jackson with the 30-second pick, and the Ravens traded back to get him. Patrick Mahomes and it traded.
He was 17 spots to zoom up to the board.

Speaker 4 So it's easy to say hindsight because it's a magnificent science.

Speaker 4 On the projections,

Speaker 4 you see what happened when you missed with that guy? Yeah. Chicago had an opportunity to take Deshaun.
They had an opportunity to take Mahomes boy. And what did they do? They took Trubisky.

Speaker 4 Well, that's that's one job. Well, that's one job, but that's a typical job, man.

Speaker 4 To be a scout, having the eye for talent, watching players play in shorts and shirts, judging every everything off what they do at the combine, what they put on film.

Speaker 4 I mean, everybody knew everybody knew Joe Burrow. Joe was the only like Exton Stone.
He was the number one, he was the number one.

Speaker 4 Knew what it was, yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 uh, uh, because I'm trying to think

Speaker 4 cuz Baker Mayfield was in that draft

Speaker 4 with Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And my homeboy.
And not my homeboy, Lamar.

Speaker 4 If you could do that draft all over, what would the order be now?

Speaker 4 Oh, you're taking Lamar one.

Speaker 4 Josh Allen, two.

Speaker 4 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 Just like if you do Mahomes' draft, you're taking Mahomes number one.

Speaker 4 For sure. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 4 it's a mistake because, look, you can make a mistake in a lot of other positions, but nothing sets you back or does more damage to your franchise than the quarterback position.

Speaker 4 Let's take it to the quarterback position every time. Look, if your foundation is cracked,

Speaker 4 oh, Joe, you know, if the rules, I can do the rules. Ain't no harm, no foul.
Right. Window, something, you know,

Speaker 4 I I get it. But that foundation,

Speaker 4 the quarterback is the foundation piece of an organization. And when you miss it or it's cracked,

Speaker 4 yeah,

Speaker 4 messes up everything,

Speaker 4 messes up everything.

Speaker 4 Well, Lamar going one, Josh Allen going two.

Speaker 4 Who else was in that draft?

Speaker 4 Sam Darnall was in that draft?

Speaker 4 Sam Warren.

Speaker 4 Darling's head coach Mike McDaniel says he wants to be on the hot seat like Nick Siriani was. I want to be on that same hot seat that Nick Siriani was on last year.

Speaker 4 Bro, you ain't got to, from top to bottom, you don't have that. Does he realize how talented, what a job Howie Roseman has done? Yeah, he knows.

Speaker 4 He understands. He understands.

Speaker 4 Listen, the saying will always remain true. Players get coaches fired and players keep coaches' jobs.

Speaker 4 Now, you look at the landscape of your team. Do you have what Cyranny has in Philly? No.

Speaker 4 And defensively.

Speaker 4 Like a team like that, you can keep your job for a while. Oh, Joe.
Look at that offensive line that man got.

Speaker 4 Look at Philly's offensive line.

Speaker 4 Going to the Hall of Fame is Lane Johnson. Lane Johnson?

Speaker 4 Dickinson.

Speaker 4 Landon Dixon.

Speaker 4 He's a multi-all Pro Bowl player. My lot.

Speaker 4 They just lost the Hall of Famer in Jason Kelsey.

Speaker 4 You got a back

Speaker 4 in Saquon, who was offensive player of the year. You got two outstanding receivers.
Yeah. You got one of the two or three best defensive tackles in all of football.

Speaker 4 Does he understand what they have, what, what, what Howie Roseman has been able to build? You don't have that. You on the hot seat.
You can fire Josh Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 4 Hey, there's one thing that can save him, though.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 4 There's one thing that can save him.

Speaker 4 If that offense looked like it did the previous season, not last season, if Tua stays upright and stays healthy, and Waddle and Tyreek contribute the way they did, where they were, what, top five

Speaker 4 in all categories statistically at the seats. Now, that would help.
That Kennedy for the Dolphins has always been their offense. Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 4 Even when they had the outstanding season, what good team did they beat?

Speaker 4 When the weather got cold, what team did they beat?

Speaker 4 They lost. So that's also the year where everyone that they did beat was below 500.
Exactly. And when it got cold, what happened? Yeah.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 now, I don't know if you noticed this, but teams that normally make the playoffs, playoffs, Kansas City, cold in Kansas City in January.

Speaker 4 Baltimore, it's cold in Baltimore in January.

Speaker 4 Even in Denver, it's cold in Denver.

Speaker 4 You better hope Las Vegas or the Chargers make it. Yeah.
So you're indoors. Because think about it, OJo.
Every other, Buffalo, it's cold. Cincinnati, it's cold.
Pittsburgh,

Speaker 4 Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Denver, it's cold. Kansas City, it's cold.
So

Speaker 4 unless you have home field, Miami, or you play

Speaker 4 Las Vegas, or you play the Chargers, you're going to be outside and probably inclement weather. Yeah.
Something that in the history, as long as I can remember, the Dolphins hasn't fairly

Speaker 4 fair

Speaker 4 for some reason.

Speaker 4 Be careful what you ask for.

Speaker 4 Be careful there.

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