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Speaker 2 Thunder. Thunder.
With the Grizzlies. SGA had 38 points and finally found his rhythm.

Speaker 2 In the first three games, he was averaging 24 points per game, but it was taking him almost 23 shots to get get those. He was shooting 35% when he shot almost 52% from the floor in the regular season.

Speaker 2 He had made only six of 24 threes, shooting 25%. But in game four, SGA was SGA.
13 of 24, 11 of 13 free throws. They end up sweeping the Memphis Grizzlies.
And you knew it was over.

Speaker 2 They had a 27-point lead. Jock goes up, comes down, and

Speaker 2 hey, that lead dissipates. They end up losing that game.
So you know

Speaker 2 it was just a matter of time before they ended up getting swept. So

Speaker 2 they passed the first test. You know, they've been the best team in the Western Conference for the entirety of the season, Tuan.
So

Speaker 2 what do you think? They're going to play the winner of the Clippers Nuggets Series.

Speaker 2 What you like?

Speaker 2 Can anybody pose a threat to them?

Speaker 2 Honestly, I just think they don't have that next guy. You know, I think Shay

Speaker 2 should be the MVP this year.

Speaker 2 Could have won it last year. I wouldn't have had no problem with it.
I think this year he gets it.

Speaker 2 I don't see that the second guy. I just haven't seen, I mean, we know Way of See.
You don't like Jamie Week. Excuse me.
I do. I do like, I do like him, but I need to see him put to the test.

Speaker 2 I need to see him put to the test where he had to get 30, 35 on a given night.

Speaker 2 So until I see that, I just don't, I don't trust them against a veteran team.

Speaker 2 I just think you get one of those, the Clippers or Denver, whichever team you face, those guys have been there before they're going to know how to guard you the respect levels are a little different they got the they got the toughness to go in your building to get a win right

Speaker 2 that's where they're going to be a little different at it's actually not it's actually kind of bad for them to see either one of those teams because those teams are older teams and the veteran teams that that can give them trouble because they because they know how to play in the playoffs so neither one of those teams are going to be great matchups for them but they are a great home team and by winning the by having the best record i always say this it means something when you take care of business in the season because you get those most important games on the floor, on your floor.

Speaker 2 You get that five and seven.

Speaker 2 You get five and seven on your home floor. That's why you take care of business during the season.
I never forget that. You always want to have that home court advantage.
So that's where they can be.

Speaker 2 That's where they can have the advantage of because they play so great in that building.

Speaker 2 But it's going to be tough for them. The next round is going to be tough for them.

Speaker 2 Look for them to be long series. And can anybody else step up and help Shea out? We know Shay's going to have some moments where he gets 35, 40, hell, maybe even 45.

Speaker 2 Who's going to be that next guy that steps up? And that's going to remain to be seen. Hey, Tauran, so

Speaker 2 basically,

Speaker 8 probably OKC is similar, similar to in the same situation based on who they play, whether it be the Nuggets, whether it be the Clippers.

Speaker 8 They're going to be in a similar situation like the Rockets right now with the Warriors.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's just not saying that they're young. I mean, the OKC guys have been together a while.

Speaker 2 I just just think and you guys know this i just and shea goes back to what you did to start the show off when you started naming stars you don't even name shea you didn't name nobody else off okc that's a team that won 60 games this year think about it you didn't name them you didn't name two three guys off of okc i just don't think and nothing wrong with that they have great complimentary guys they got great role players I just don't see that next superstar, a guy that can help you win a game.

Speaker 2 Who's going to go win a game besides Shay? I want to see that.

Speaker 2 let's see the next guy step up and get 30 35 let's see shea have 10 points a bad night foul trouble he's gonna get it done who's gonna be that next guy that steps up for them so that remains to be seen that's that's that's where the test is gonna come in at

Speaker 2 yeah i hey look

Speaker 2 i didn't think memphis was gonna do much um and when um Scotty Pippen Jr. was your best player on the Memphis Grizzlies, and he's, I'm happy for him because he seemingly found

Speaker 2 a home in Memphis, and they're giving giving him opportunities to showcase his ability. But

Speaker 2 I didn't really expect much from Memphis in this series. Even with Job, maybe they could have got a game.
Maybe a game. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe a game.
I think that game, they had a 27-point lead.

Speaker 2 I think if Josh stays in, they probably win that one. Yeah, they might win.
Maybe they get a game. Maybe.
Maybe. Maybe.
All things being equal, they get two.

Speaker 2 I mean, you look at them.

Speaker 2 Holmgren had 11. Jalen Williams had 23.
Hartenstein had 11 and 12.

Speaker 2 Shea.

Speaker 2 But what they kill you is that, you know, they're a great defensive team because they got Caruso. They got Isaiah Joe.
They got Wallace. They got Lou Dort.

Speaker 2 They got Chet that can protect the rim if somebody gets beat off the dribble. They got big.
They got two bigs.

Speaker 2 And they don't have a problem playing too big. But then when they go small,

Speaker 2 they got guys that are scrappy. They can defend.
Everybody can defend at an extremely high level.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I agree with you. But But the question is, man, you got to be able to have Shea under control.
Because if you don't, he'll end up shooting 15, 20 free throws on you.

Speaker 2 Oh, you got to be.

Speaker 2 Go ahead. Go ahead.
Go ahead, Corner. No, I'm saying you have to beat him.
I do agree with you. You have to beat him.

Speaker 2 They're not going to beat themselves. I think with the young group, they got fresh legs.
They play lively. They play great at home.
So they're going to, and they got a guy. I mean, Shea is a guy.

Speaker 2 He's a guy that can get you 35, 40. That's what you want in the playoffs.
They got all the ingredients to make a deep run.

Speaker 2 I just worry when you get into a series with better teams that may double team Shea and may force some other guys to beat you. Are those other guys ready to deliver at the level that you need to?

Speaker 2 Think about some of these teams. I mean, think about the Lakers.
You know, they got two guys that can get it done. You know, when we talk about OKC, we just don't.
Williams is great.

Speaker 2 Don't get me wrong. He's going to be a, he's a great young player.
He made the all-star team this year.

Speaker 2 He's shown that he can be a 20, 25-point scorer. Hell, he's had some 30 point performances.

Speaker 2 But if you got to get out another guy that can go to it, I don't think as you get along, you start playing the better teams. They're not going to let Shea beat them.

Speaker 2 I just don't think that. I think they're going to double team.
They're going to make these other guys have to beat them. If I was playing against them, that's what I would do.

Speaker 2 But the OKC did the right thing. Everything got to come through there.
They have four games on their floor. And I think that's where they did a good job of.
They played well there.

Speaker 2 And you guys know this, and you guys will be watching love basketball. The rogue guys play better at home.
So now you got those young guys or young guys on the bench playing at home.

Speaker 2 They play a lot better. That's what the advantage is for OKC.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because they had five guys, even though he went on the road, it was a close game. They have five guys in double figures.
Hungryn had 11. Jalen Williams had 23.
Hardenstein had 11. Shea had 38.

Speaker 2 And Isaiah Joe.

Speaker 2 had 11.

Speaker 2 Wiggins had nine. But

Speaker 2 you get them other numbers kind of low though, Chad. You see, you gotta need somebody else instead of other numbers look low now.
Somebody else get played by the team, you played at Memphis, right?

Speaker 2 Play one of the big dogs, it's gonna be it's gonna be a little different.

Speaker 2 But you know what I like?

Speaker 2 What I like with them, not to cut you off, OJo, what I like is that Wiggins, excuse me, that Williams and Shea take most of the shots because you look at it, they took a combined 45 shots, and you had Hongren with the next most shot at nine.

Speaker 2 You had a guy took seven, one guy took four, one, one, five, seven seven eight so your big dog's eating uh-huh

Speaker 2 you you got because you know sometimes you get to the playoffs guys try to make a name for themselves and they all of a sudden you're supposed to be shooting seven eight times all of a sudden you shoot 14 15 no whoa whoa what you doing

Speaker 2 coach did you see that

Speaker 2 hey you said andrew wiggins same

Speaker 2 andrew wiggins is down is is in miami with you

Speaker 2 you just said that's a that's that's another

Speaker 2 they got, oh, they got another wicket on their team. Yeah, young, they got a young wicket.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 John did not.

Speaker 2 Yo, yeah, I like

Speaker 2 Wallace. I like Isaiah Joe, but they all can defend.
Look at Caruso can defend. Lou Dork can defend.
Isaiah Joe can defend. Carson Wallace can defend.
Hey, Chet Hongren, defend. So

Speaker 2 no matter, even Shea was like top three in steel. So no matter matter who you have on the court, you still have at least three guys that can defend on the ball at all times.

Speaker 2 And then if Shea's in there, you got somebody that can protect the paint, protect the rim. Harden side, I mean, he can't protect, but he's a big body.
He'll block a shot to a shot here or there.

Speaker 2 I like the way they make up. But like you said, we'll see next round.
Ja didn't want to be seen on camera on the bench. He saw the broadcast camera on him and put his hand over his face.

Speaker 2 Juan, you good with this?

Speaker 2 Nah, man, I feel bad for my guy, Shane.

Speaker 2 I remember you had me on when you was back on with Fox and we was talking about him and we had the little discussion with him, man.

Speaker 2 I just wish he did, I mean, he's such a terrific talent, man. I just wish he'd lock in on playing basketball.
You know what I'm saying? And take what come with it. That's the good.

Speaker 2 That's the good coverage you want.

Speaker 2 You want your fans to see you care about your team and that you're upset that you're not playing. That's when you want the camera on you.
So I just hope he gets it together.

Speaker 2 I got a lot of respect for him. I want him to be, you know, I think he could be one of the greatest players to play in the game at the point guard position.

Speaker 2 When he's right, healthy, and he uses that stretch of 20, 25 games where he's just playing basketball and not shooting a gun and not doing all those crazy things.

Speaker 2 He's one of the best players in the league. But, you know, we just don't know if he's ever going to figure it out.
So

Speaker 2 I get disappointed in him a little bit on that because it's just, I hope this talent doesn't go to waste.

Speaker 2 Because you know, Adam Silver, after a while, it's going to be, you know, you're going to have to go see the big dog again and he ain't going to like what he's going to do to you.

Speaker 2 Do you think he needs to be out of Memphis in order for him to really blossom and fully develop?

Speaker 8 Yep, right on down here in Miami.

Speaker 2 Yep, most definitely.

Speaker 2 I'll take care of him. Chad, he can't come to Miami.
Pat Rowley. I got him.
I got him. I got him.
Eric Sprunson ain't playing that, man.

Speaker 8 That's what I mean. Sometimes that's what you need.
Sometimes you need to go somewhere like this where you have two old school type coaches that approach the game of basketball different.

Speaker 2 They got structure. They got discipline.
You right here right now, and you try to go all the way over here. You see all that space in between.
You got to stop off in the middle, OJ.

Speaker 2 It's going to be tough, man. It's going to be tough.

Speaker 2 Do I think he needs another place?

Speaker 8 Change the scenery?

Speaker 2 I don't think he needs a change of scenery. I think they have to really strategically make sure that they keep the right guys around him.
And you know how sometimes

Speaker 2 you bring a veteran on the team. that maybe not going to get a lot of minutes that can help you control that locker room.
You know how it is, help control some of the out the court activities.

Speaker 2 I think that's what they need to do. You know, sometimes it's good to pick up a guy like that.
Maybe a guy that's not going to do much. You know what I mean? Think about that Boston Celtics team.

Speaker 2 They put Al Horford, a nice veteran on the team with them, who's been on their team for the last three, four years. It's been great for them.
A good locker room guy. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 That's what you need. You need some locker room guys sometime.
I think that I like them in Memphis because they've been successful. They've had some winners.
It's not like they're a bad team.

Speaker 2 They got some pieces there. He doesn't have to be moved, but he's going to have have to clean up some things.

Speaker 2 And I think he can use another superstar. I would like to see.
I don't know if they'll be able to a free agency. Well, Triple J was supposed to be a superstar.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I'm just telling you, they paid him like one. Yeah, I don't know if he

Speaker 2 kind of took a couple steps back this year.

Speaker 2 Especially this series.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They was banged up this year a lot off and on, so I'm not going to put too much on this season and the coaching change and all that stuff they went through. You know,

Speaker 2 that fire in the coach was kind of weird to me. I know y'all covered that a long time ago, but I think that played a part too.

Speaker 2 You know, a couple of years ago, John Marx said, I'm fine in the West.

Speaker 2 I might have you worried about Boston, but I'm fine in the West. Zero playoff series wins, one head coach fine, and two suspensions.

Speaker 2 Is he fine in the West one?

Speaker 2 No, he's not fine in the West.

Speaker 2 I mean, for us that love sports and we love to see guys make it and do great, I would love to see him on Miami Heat, where it's structure, where it's discipline, where basketball has to come first.

Speaker 2 I would love to see him in that type of situation where they can get some of that junk out of him. But we don't know.

Speaker 2 I mean, Memphis has to make a major decision on whether or not they want to continue to build around him and kind of go through his antics or you make a move for him while he still has a little value because I think he still has some value right now.

Speaker 2 yeah i do yeah for sure so i think you can get something for him and maybe maybe it might be a mutual no telling you guys mutual agreement hey i tried it here i need a new surrounding i want to you know try something different maybe you can make a move in that sense uh because they're two totally different teams with the without him it is they're gonna so they're gonna have to figure it out two totally different teams i like it i like it

Speaker 8 i like it hey mickey arrison i know you're gonna see this pat i know you're gonna see this spolstra holla at your boy. My number is still the same.

Speaker 2 We can go get y'all sometime, sometime in the summer.

Speaker 2 Listen,

Speaker 8 I put the pieces in place.

Speaker 8 I make sure he's good away from the court. You know, I got the right kind of people.
You know, we don't play no game. We don't do none of that.

Speaker 2 Okay. Ain't gonna be no driving.

Speaker 8 Ain't gonna be no shooting. Ain't gonna be throwing on no grave.

Speaker 2 No, no grenades. Uh-uh.
Gonna do that. You're gonna get him over.
You feel me? You're gonna get him a Uber? Hey, give him a drive. No, no, no.

Speaker 8 I gotta driver for him. I gotta drive.
We'll get him everywhere he needs to go.

Speaker 2 We won't.

Speaker 8 Twan, I've been in Miami all my life.

Speaker 2 I don't even club.

Speaker 8 I ain't been to Club Live yet. I just went to booby trap for the first time two weeks ago.
Well, I'm 57 years old.

Speaker 2 So I know if I can get y'all down here to Miami, I can keep him aligned.

Speaker 8 We got the same goal. I want to see you succeed.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he needs to hang out with you. He can't hang out with me.
I thought I was Mr. South Beach.
So you're right. Hang out with you.

Speaker 2 That's better. I thought I was Mr.
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Speaker 2 The Calves beat the heat. Hey, no, we don't need to talk about this.

Speaker 8 Next segment, next segment.

Speaker 2 We don't need to talk about that. No team has ever recovered from a 3-0 deficit in the NBA playoffs.
The Heat has shown no indication that they'll be the first. Cavs up 3-0 points in the paint today.

Speaker 2 The Cavs had 60. The Heat had 30.
What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on, Tawan?

Speaker 2 The Heat just don't have enough, unfortunately. You know, Eric Spruce was a great coach.
You know, he fought this hard to get into the playoffs situation.

Speaker 2 They beat up the team like the Bulls, who was kind of probably equal to them and beat them to get into this playoffs game, this playoff series. They just don't have enough.
I mean, I love Bam.

Speaker 2 I think he's a great piece of the puzzle. I think they gave him

Speaker 2 as being a major centerpiece. I don't think he's that guy.
I think he's more of a

Speaker 2 A-B. He's more of a C guy to me because he doesn't dominate the game enough for me.
You know, 18 and 10, that's cool.

Speaker 2 You know, a guy like Bam and the money he's making, he's supposed to be getting 25 and 13. You know, he don't give that to you every night.
You know, getting 16 and 10,

Speaker 2 that's not not going to get it done to be an A-list or B-list player in this league. Tyler Hero is terrific.
Obviously, six-man of the year, a great scorer, but he's a sixth man.

Speaker 2 He can't start for you and give you some buckets, but he's a six-man. That's what he's

Speaker 2 been his best at in that role. I just don't think they have enough.
They're going to have to try to figure it out. I know they traded for Andrew Wiggins.
He could be a good piece to the puzzle.

Speaker 2 They're going to have to get lucky to draft, man. Obviously, I won my championship with the Heat.
I always root for them. I love Eric Sposum and those guys down there.

Speaker 2 They're going to have to figure it out to try to get a big superstar to put with this young core.

Speaker 2 Or they're going to always be in the mix because they're going to be a 500 team, two, three games under. But to make any real noise, they're going to have to add some pieces.

Speaker 2 They kind of stuck in that spot. And it's probably not, you know what? You know how sometimes you need to lose so you can get a higher pick.
They kind of stuck. They put themselves in that.

Speaker 2 12 pick position. They play just well enough to stay out of the damn lottery.
They play just well enough to stay out of the lottery. And that puts them in

Speaker 2 positions. We see them compete, we see them win big games from time to time.
But when you get in the playoff series and you need it, they don't have it. That's me, right now.

Speaker 2 They don't have the depth. Um, I don't think they have a superstar right now.
Like I said, I think Bam is a good player, I think he's a good piece of the puzzle.

Speaker 2 I think Tyler Hero is great in his role when he can be the six-man. I think he can always be an instant scorer in his league.

Speaker 2 I just think they don't have enough to compete at the level that they would like to, that we know Mickey Harrison, Pat Rowley, Eric Sprosum, them guys want to.

Speaker 2 I mean, Jimmy Butler was the exception to the rule.

Speaker 2 He got this group. Most of these guys played with him, got them to the finals.
But they need another piece.

Speaker 2 That's actually the evidence that I need to show you. If you can get another piece with that type of culture, you can make some moves.
But right now,

Speaker 2 they're stuck in sand right now. They're going to have to figure it out.

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Speaker 2 The moment we've all waited for, Shadur Sanders is drafted.

Speaker 2 144. In the fifth round, the Browns traded up and selected.
All these anonymous reports are coming out about Shadur having bad interviews, especially with the Giants.

Speaker 2 According to Todd McShea, Shador completely bombed his interview with the Giants. He didn't have a great interview with head coach Brian Dayball.
The preparation wasn't there.

Speaker 2 For an install package, Dayball called him out and Sanders didn't like it. Dayball has gone 8-26 over the past two seasons, so he probably knows a...

Speaker 2 thing or two about being unprepared to be honest with you. I mean you go 8-26.
You go 8-26 being unprepared.

Speaker 2 You are no unprepared person when you see one, considering over the last two years, that's kind of exactly what you've been.

Speaker 2 And then there's been reports of him having a big entourage because his brother shoots videos of him being in family.

Speaker 2 He's with his brother and his family. No drinking, no drugs, no controversy, just living his life.

Speaker 2 Ocho, this is, I'm gonna start with you first. Yeah,

Speaker 2 here that he didn't do well in the interview. Yeah, he didn't hit it off with Coach Dayball

Speaker 2 and seemed like he was unprepared.

Speaker 2 Didn't like the entourage. Okay, William.

Speaker 2 I don't believe it, huh?

Speaker 8 I don't believe it because every single NFL player, every single, when I say every single, I mean every single has an entourage. Most of the entourages is family in France.

Speaker 8 If it's not family in France, it's friends that you grew up with.

Speaker 2 Right. Everybody has that.

Speaker 8 So I'm not sure why that even came into play. And we talk about everybody, regardless of race, regardless of ethnicity, it doesn't matter.
So that's one thing. Interview, interview goes bad.

Speaker 8 Unprepared. Now I think I'm thinking about a son of one of the greatest players of all time who's always been prepared and coached and having tutelage

Speaker 8 from one of the best of all time. And for some reason, all of a sudden he wasn't prepared for an interview when it comes to the game of football in which he's a quarterback.

Speaker 8 Again, that's something else that's not believable. Now, you know, media, media can

Speaker 8 screw things and report things that obviously aren't true bingo forget that so he drops to the cleveland browns

Speaker 2 round five what pick 144 what was it 145 144.

Speaker 8 i'm i'm i'm not even tripping at this point i'm not even tripping at this point because prime obviously is prepared to do it for any and everything dealing with media dealing with with with with those that doubt you so i'm just happy he has this opportunity because what's happening in this scenario in this situation in which I still believe is collusion.

Speaker 8 I'm not talking about race.

Speaker 2 I'm not talking about race at all.

Speaker 8 I'm just saying a collective collusion against Brother Sanders and all the things. And then just the hype.
And listen, the machine, again, I said it last night. I said it last night.
We have choices.

Speaker 8 People choose what they want to see. I said it yesterday.
I'm not talking about race at all. One thing for sure, the machine is undefeated and will always remain undefeated.

Speaker 8 Anytime it feels not really threatened, but there's another

Speaker 8 name or family that think they can come in and do things their way, they'll humble you.

Speaker 8 And this was, this was the example of it, an example of it that we've never, ever, ever seen before to this magnitude. We've never seen anything like this.

Speaker 8 I'm happy for Shador. I'm happy for Shiloh and for Shador Sanders getting the opportunity to play for the Cleveland Browns.
His situation is simple as put.

Speaker 8 It's delayed, but it's not denied. It's not about where you go.
It's what you do once you get there. So now you know what you need to do.
The Browns haven't had a quarterback.

Speaker 8 They haven't had a quarterback, a sufficient quarterback, a consistent quarterback for a very long time.

Speaker 2 Bernie Gozar.

Speaker 8 Okay, Riffs and Bernie for a very long time.

Speaker 2 This might be their calling.

Speaker 8 This might be their blessing. This might be his blessing, even going there.
So I'm happy for him. He's going to do what's necessary.
I'm sure he had the chip on his shoulder.

Speaker 8 And I'm excited because in that AFC North, North, you know, it runs through Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 And the only way you're going to get it done is if you got a quarterback.

Speaker 8 I just had to add a little piece of that.

Speaker 2 I saw that. I saw you throw that in there.

Speaker 2 What do you think it's Warren?

Speaker 2 Honestly, man, guys, to be honest with you, I mean, I feel for him. Obviously, you know, you work so hard and it's tough when you project to go first round.

Speaker 2 I had a situation once. It's not, obviously, not the same because basketball is totally different as far as the number of people that get picked.

Speaker 2 But I was at the with my best friend, Nazi Muhammad, was supposed to be picked lottery when he came out. And now I slid to 29 and just sitting there.

Speaker 2 Obviously, it was nothing like Shadu, where you had to actually wait a whole nother day to get drafted. But just to see him slide, huh?

Speaker 2 You waited two days. He got drafted today.

Speaker 2 They had to draft

Speaker 2 two days. So it's different.
But I think, like, this, to be honest with you, I see. I think you have to play the game, Shannon, to be honest with you.

Speaker 2 I think if he would have, I'll play, I'm just going to play the game till I get drafted.

Speaker 2 Whatever that would have been, whatever, and I think sometimes that's what not, and I'm not sure this. And you guys could correct me if I'm wrong, because it's saying like I never seen the agent.

Speaker 2 And obviously, I'm watching from afar. I'm watching off TV on social media.

Speaker 2 Do we have an agent?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I bet Shiloh made a joke talking about our dad was our agent, and we might need to hire a new agent. Okay,

Speaker 2 right, I don't know. Because I think you know how this is.

Speaker 2 Sometimes you have an agent, he can tell you the truth behind closed doors of what they're actually saying and what you need to work on so by dion being the dad he probably not really hearing everything they probably can't tell so he's not hearing everything that they're saying so i think that was probably one mistake and i don't know if he had an agent or not so if if the agent to kind of buffer that to talk to him and kind of figure it out um

Speaker 2 but you got to figure this thing out man i think what one thing about it it was about interview i don't think it's skill set i mean he put the numbers up the numbers speak for themselves he had the numbers so we got to look at some of the stuff.

Speaker 2 I mean, I worked out for nine teams when I came out. I interviewed with nine teams.
So you got to go through that process. I'm not sure how he interviewed.
Maybe that was a little sketchy.

Speaker 2 That can rub some GMs and the Zex the wrong way. You know, sometimes you don't interview well.

Speaker 2 Maybe the swagger, what he's coming with, great family, family dynamics. His family's going to support him.

Speaker 2 Obviously, he has a certain swag, a certain order he carries with him, which we all love. And we just talked about,

Speaker 2 we like that.

Speaker 2 All three of us talk trash. We all celebrated.
We all have fun. So we know that.
So that's not the problem. We brought our own style.
So that wasn't the problem with him.

Speaker 2 I just felt like they didn't play the game that everybody else played. And they wanted to show them

Speaker 2 that, look, it's still the NFL. We still run this.

Speaker 2 You still got to go through this proper pecking order. And I think that's what it was.
That's what it looks like.

Speaker 2 You can't look at his, if you look at his numbers the scale of them the guys that got picked perform all this stuff it doesn't make sense so it's got to be something behind the scenes it's it can't be football ability it has to be something behind the scenes that's why i said if he had an agent maybe somebody that could hear the noise because he probably didn't hear the real noise

Speaker 2 you know what i mean we we on tv watching all the analysts and everybody but you know y'all perfect so much information Y'all only purview so much. We're not hearing that real noise.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? So that's what, and sometimes your agent gets that for you to kind of help you out and maybe help you get your act together that's why i really wanted to know if he had an agent

Speaker 8 but you know the funny thing about it twan even even at that point you are who you are

Speaker 2 shador is who he is the sanders family they are who they are

Speaker 8 that that that's it and they've always been unapologetically themselves and that rubs a lot of people wrong a lot of people don't like that including some of those in the nfl some of the things that dion has said in the past they probably didn't like they probably didn't like it.

Speaker 8 You know, he wanted to pull an

Speaker 2 arch standing. He wanted to pull, you know, with Eli, that probably, they probably didn't like it.

Speaker 8 They quoting tweets that he said a long time ago. And I know, let me tell you why I know this is all collusion.
You know, I think about some, like, like going, you know what?

Speaker 8 I'm not even going to bring that up. I'm not going to bring it up.

Speaker 2 I'm happy he got where.

Speaker 8 he needed to go. This is exactly where we're supposed to land because I guarantee you, watch it be a blessing in disguise.
and them never having a quarterback.

Speaker 8 And all of a sudden, for some reason, Shadura being the answer for the next decade.

Speaker 2 Hope you're right. Can I ask you guys something?

Speaker 2 I'm a basketball guy. I want to ask you something, Chad.
You can ask this because you're talking right now. Can you answer this? Is the Cleveland the right fit for him?

Speaker 2 Because sometimes, let's disregard what number he went. Did he go to a good situation?

Speaker 2 where he can actually be able to showcase himself and have a real opportunity to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. Do you guys like that situation?

Speaker 8 If the GM and the owners are competent when his time comes to be able to compete for a starting job,

Speaker 8 if they continue to build around him,

Speaker 8 yes, it's the right place.

Speaker 8 If they continue to do right by the quarterback position, like other teams are doing, like they do for the Mahomes and they do for the Jalen Hurts and they do for, you know, the other quarterbacks, the Jaden Daniels, as you continue to put the pieces to the puzzle around him while you have a quarterback on a very very

Speaker 8 cheap I hate using that word cheap but you know a very affordable contract where you can't yeah I think he's he's in the right place but if they do what they've always done

Speaker 8 for a very long time which where they've been through 276,000 quarterbacks then it would be the same the same process will repeat itself they had baker mayfield he had the number one pick there was nothing wrong with baker mayfield because look what he's doing in tampa bay

Speaker 8 So that tells you where the problem lies, that the problem lies with Cleveland internally.

Speaker 8 Now you got an opportunity again.

Speaker 8 Let's not F it up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I do. I love when quarterbacks, young quarterbacks come in.
They have an unbelievable support system.

Speaker 2 Hopefully you have somebody that's really smart schematically, knows how to diagram plays Ocho, knows how to put quarterbacks in the right situation. You have a decent running back.

Speaker 2 I'm not saying you need Saquon. I mean, although that would be nice to have a Saquon Barkley and a Derrick Henry on a rookie quarterback, but you need quality receivers.

Speaker 2 You see CJ Stroud where he went and had success. Look at the receiving cord that he had.
You look at Jaden Daniels. Look at the receiving cord that he had.

Speaker 2 The question is, are there enough pieces around any quarterback, regardless if it's a rookie or not, is there enough pieces around him so he can adequately do what he needs to get done?

Speaker 2 I think Stefanowski is an unbelievable coach. He's a coach of the year.
He knows how to call plays. He knows how to scheme plays.

Speaker 2 And so now it just comes down to okay when you get your opportunity you got to shine you got to prepare like there's no tomorrow because that's already out there ocho you see what they're saying he was unprepared you see what they did ocho

Speaker 8 see we already put that out there on you now hey that's the game huh they're gonna play the game

Speaker 8 they're going to play the game there's only one way you can beat the game huh That's in between the lines. Yeah.
No matter what to say, it blocks out all the noise.

Speaker 8 You can only beat the game in between the lines. That's it.
No matter what they say.

Speaker 2 But I will say this, Ocho. I don't know if they're going to allow Bucky to go in and film everything that Shadur is doing.
No, that's over. No, no, no.
That's over.

Speaker 2 Now, when you're in Colorado and your dad's the head coach, they're going to allow that.

Speaker 2 That's over with now. Yeah.
I mean, they understand that. But

Speaker 2 I thought he was the video guy. I thought he's the video guy.
Fuck you. No, you can't.
You ain't going to have no physical video guy.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, you can't do that.

Speaker 8 Once you enter that building, once you're on grounds in that facility,

Speaker 2 all that's done. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So that's, that's

Speaker 2 having an entourage. Yeah.
I, I, I don't, and like I said, I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't know if he went to the building and they tried to go into meeting rooms and Bucky was trying to capture content. Uh, he doesn't have an agent because Time's agent was Eugene Parker.

Speaker 2 Rest his soul. Eugene passed away several years ago.
And so

Speaker 2 I'm sure Time will probably interview somebody now. And I agree with you, Antoine, probably.

Speaker 2 And that's the thing, because you have an agent and they hear things and they can tell you things now they're gonna all the really really bad stuff they ain't gonna share that with you because they don't want to mess with you mentally

Speaker 2 yeah but

Speaker 2 they'll share enough of stuff with you so you get the picture and get a great understanding of what's actually going on so uh hey

Speaker 8 if i'm not mistaken i i say you know obviously my agent was uh obviously when i first got in the league with jerome stanley phenomenal dude did it did really well for me you know in the back end of my career from the middle on the back end it it was Drew Rosenhaus.

Speaker 8 And if I'm not mistaken, I saw Drew Rosenhaus post for Shiloh Sanders once he got drafted. So I'm assuming Drew Rosenhaus must be representing Shiloh.

Speaker 2 I'm not sure if he represents Shadur, though. Right.
I get it.

Speaker 2 Because, okay, the Brian's the current quarterback room: Deshaun Watson, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel, Shadur Sanders, Deshaun Watson, starter. Flacco is a vet.

Speaker 2 If Deshaun can't go, you got Kenny Pickett, the backup. Dylan Gabriel, rookie.
Shadur, rookie. Phil.

Speaker 2 What's going on? I mean, damn.

Speaker 2 What's really going on? What's really going on, Ocho?

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 2 I like to compete.

Speaker 8 I ain't got no problem with it. I like to compete.
Who I need to beat out?

Speaker 2 I love Kenny Pickett. I love Dylan Gabriel.
I don't know how you beat Deshaun out when he got another $48, got $38 million this year and another $40 million next year. How you beat him out?

Speaker 8 Hey, he's not. Deshaun not playing this year, huh?

Speaker 2 Okay, he's not going to play this year. Okay, so now you got Slanco.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you got

Speaker 2 Achilles, Achilles. Yeah, so listen,

Speaker 8 I'm going to tell you how it's going to play out.

Speaker 2 I love Kenny Pickett. I love Kenny Pickett.
I love that, that, you know, Brother Gabriel.

Speaker 2 But Shador,

Speaker 8 if he does what he's supposed to do,

Speaker 2 you know, we've seen Kenny Pickett already.

Speaker 8 We haven't seen Dylan Gabriel yet. But I'm just saying, I know probably Flacco is going to start.

Speaker 2 He's going to start.

Speaker 8 At some point, Shador is going to get a shot.

Speaker 8 At some point, he's going to get that shot.

Speaker 2 And when the door opens,

Speaker 2 let me ask both of you guys. Let me ask both of you guys.

Speaker 2 Why would Cleveland do that? Why would Cleveland want a quarterback room with five guys? Does that bring it up?

Speaker 2 Does that mean anything?

Speaker 2 They're going to keep three.

Speaker 2 Yeah. They're going to keep three.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 8 Because

Speaker 8 Deshaun is not playing this shit.

Speaker 2 He's not playing till like January or February or something like that. You're right.
I forgot. Late.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, but you might as well just go ahead and, you know, put him on IR and go ahead and let that go. Uh,

Speaker 2 what I don't get, Cleveland, at some point in time, y'all got to stop trading back. Y'all could have had Julio Jones, you traded back.
You could have had you could have had Travis Hunter and

Speaker 2 Shadur.

Speaker 2 At some point in time, when guys are sitting there waiting for you to take them, take them. Right.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Take them.
It's okay.

Speaker 2 I guess they're looking at it like we're more than one player away,

Speaker 2 but sometimes that player can help change things around.

Speaker 2 I don't get it. I don't get what they're doing

Speaker 2 with this situation.

Speaker 2 Like you said, Twan, he had an unbelievable college career. He played well at Jackson State.
And then they said, well, Jeff Jackson State, that's why you're doing that. He goes to Colorado.

Speaker 2 He puts up some successional numbers.

Speaker 2 You know, great completion percentage. He throws guys open.
No, he's not the most athletic guy, but he's not. a decathlete.

Speaker 2 He don't need to high jump, long jump, pole vault, shot, putt, hurdle, 100, 400, 1500. He don't need to do all that.

Speaker 2 All he needs to do, can he take three? Can he drop back five? Can he zone read?

Speaker 2 Can he do the stuff? Can he process information in a hurry? Yeah. That's what a quarterback needs.

Speaker 8 He needs to be confident.

Speaker 2 He needs to be able to process information in a hurry. And he needs to be able to retain information.

Speaker 2 I mean, he showed you that he's shown you he can do that. ever since he's, I mean, from middle school to high school to college.
So let's see if that's transferable.

Speaker 2 I like to think that it is, but you don't know dwine you know this same thing with all sports you don't know what you have in a guy until you get him in your building and put him in your uniform that's when you 100 know for certain what the hell i got yeah because all this other stuff where he won this award and he did all this and he did all of that and i've seen it having played in the nfl guys come in and have all these credentials and i like i don't know how they hey somebody gave you a fake passport because i don't know how you get all i don't know how you get all that.

Speaker 2 Let me ask you guys the football. Is it about the number or is it more about the fit?

Speaker 2 Fit. It's always going to be fit.
It's always going to be fit.

Speaker 2 Always. Do you guys think it's a...
So if you had the grade that's fit,

Speaker 2 what would you guys go right now? I know you got to go compete,

Speaker 2 but I like New Orleans a great bit better. It's better than me personally.

Speaker 2 I would have liked New Orleans a little better. I would like New Orleans better too.
But

Speaker 2 the thing is now, because twana i was telling out your uh uh last night is that i went to a team i was a big wide receiver i went to one of the three teams that had the h-back position uh washington had the h-back position the broncos had the h-back position and uh uh the chargers uh san diego they were in san diego then had the h-back position every tight end on the roster got hurt i'm the biggest receiver coach reeves come a would you be willing to move the age back i'm gonna catch the ball yeah if you throw me if you you learn to plays okay

Speaker 2 So now here I am, a big wide receiver. Imagine I don't go to a team that has the H-back position.
So I switch midway through like a third of the way.

Speaker 2 I have like probably like week eight, week nine, week 10. They move me to like tight end.

Speaker 2 Ta-da. And the rest of that, they say, history.
So it's absolutely where you go.

Speaker 2 I get it. Because a lot of times, Twan, you know this.
First four and five picks, they get a boatload of money.

Speaker 2 now you want to make a boatload of money for a short period of time for an extended period of time because i had a 14 year career there are a lot of guys that went in the first round ojo they made money for a three four year period yeah i made money for a 14 year period it's not how much money you make is how long you make money and then what you're going to do it's not how much money you make is how much you keep so it's absolutely twan fit where you go yeah that fit And what they do for you while you're there.

Speaker 2 And it's better for him too, though. He got

Speaker 2 space too. So he's okay, he's made a little money.

Speaker 2 Had he known what he known, he'd have stayed in college and made some more NIL money. He's like, Hell, if y'all gonna take me in the field round,

Speaker 2 he made more NIL and what his rookie contract is gonna be your choke. Yeah, yeah, oh, wow, definitely,

Speaker 2 exactly. Wow, but listen,

Speaker 8 I think the situation in general is good for him.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 8 it gets it puts a chip on his shoulder. Yeah, oh, this is this is how you feel about me.

Speaker 2 Okay, bet.

Speaker 2 Hold my beer.

Speaker 8 I got this.

Speaker 2 Watch me.

Speaker 8 I've done. I've listened.
I've faced adversity before.

Speaker 2 I've had the hurdle obstacles before.

Speaker 8 This isn't just another one that's in the way. I'm going to show you.
I'm going to prove to you that I'm worthy of doing all the things you said I can't. Oh, you feel I'm a fifth round pit?

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm a fifth rounder.

Speaker 2 Okay, bet.

Speaker 2 I'm not, I'm not tripping.

Speaker 8 I'm not, I'm not tripping at all. Again, Shadura's, hey, chat.
I know y'all can hear me. Shadur's situation, it's simple as this.

Speaker 2 It was delayed.

Speaker 8 It wasn't, he wasn't denied.

Speaker 2 that's all yeah delayed now we get there hey do what you're supposed to do and everything else will take care of itself well nobody care where you got drafted at and he had to wait it was so disappointing and they prank calling him and doing all this other stuff when you go do what you need to do everything is fine everything everything will work itself out Speaking of Trav, the Jaguars are 100% committed to Travis Harder letting him play wide receiver and corner.

Speaker 2 They told him, you got a bold vision and we got a bold vision for you yeah

Speaker 2 oh choose yeah

Speaker 2 what you thinking i like what you mean what i'm thinking i'm thinking duval man i like it i like it they listen he said he said it not only during the interview process allow him to do what he has dreamed of and been working on the entirety of his career so far.

Speaker 8 I mean, far as collegiate-wise, he said he has a belief and believes.

Speaker 8 He believes that's the one thing that you need in anything that you do, regardless of whether it's the corporate world or whether it's sports.

Speaker 8 If I believe I can do it, I can achieve it. You and I, we have different beliefs on whether you can do it at this level, but we're going to find out now.

Speaker 8 We're going to find out if you can play both sides of the ball. I like the fact that the owners, the GMs, and everyone else inside

Speaker 8 that locker room are going to allow him to do exactly what he did in college. To what extent, I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 Right. To what extent, I'm not sure.

Speaker 8 I think they gave

Speaker 8 a brief press conference on ways they can figure out on how to do it. I'm just excited, man, man.
I'm happy for Trav. I'm happy for the Jaguars.

Speaker 8 I'm happy for the fans in that city especially uh the city itself man they they got a good one they're gonna put some butts in the seats and he's gonna make it exciting for the next next decade i got a question for you guys just you know as football guys just honestly what's if you you guys know how talented he is and how good he is

Speaker 2 which one he's best at

Speaker 2 which one do you think he can be the which one you think he could be great at i know you don't want it's hard to pick one side but i'm pretty sure he's better on one side than the other i like me i look

Speaker 2 i like him at db i do too yeah i like him i think he has incredible instincts i think his instincts are crazy the way he can see and his recognition to see this and diagnose it and that's what the really great corners can do tuan is that they can see a formation they'll see a split and they'll know automatically what's coming so i look at i look at this split i look at these two receivers over here i might take a glance over there okay i got something for y'all.

Speaker 2 Run it if you want to.

Speaker 2 Run it if you want to. Try to run me off deep and try to run this sound right here behind it and watch what I do to it.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I think he has unbelievable instincts, unbelievable recognition. And you build a package around him.

Speaker 2 And Ojo, remember we talked about Brian Thomas Jr. Yeah.
He's there. He's a lot better than Brian Thomas Jr.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's phenomenal Brian Thomas Jr. is he he that that guy.

Speaker 8 Listen, Brian Ty, hey, Antoine, Brian Thomas Jr. is one of those receivers that will probably be a top five receiver.
Maybe, maybe after this year, he's that good. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Out of LSU. And you already know what LSU produce.

Speaker 8 He wanted them ones.

Speaker 2 As much as I learned.

Speaker 2 But see, people, when Ocho and I, we try to explain to people, yeah, build a package.

Speaker 2 You know, you have a third-down package or you have a specialty package, a group of plays that that you feel comfortable with him. Maybe it's in the red zone.

Speaker 2 Maybe it's in certain areas of the field, certain situations. But people are like, no, just let him play as much as he wants to play.
No, no, no.

Speaker 8 You can't run him into the ground.

Speaker 8 You want him to play and make sure he's efficient on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 2 You want him to be efficient.

Speaker 2 Does he handle that physicality? Is his body makeup ready for that physicality?

Speaker 2 It's the mental approach because you got to study.

Speaker 2 I mean, like I said, okay, we say one thing, Ocho, about rock recognition as the DB, but you have to understand also, you have to understand coverages from a wide receiver perspective. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You have to understand. So let's just say for the sake of argument, you play in Miami.

Speaker 2 Okay, you guard Tyreek for 12, 8, 12, 10, 12 plays. And now you got to go up against Jalen Ramsey.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 You guard Zayn Flowers and you guard Bashar Bateman. And you got to go up against Marlon Humphrey and Wiggins.
So, you know,

Speaker 2 you got to be, because, look,

Speaker 2 there are very few teams in college that had an elite corner and an elite DB.

Speaker 2 You're going to get it every week now. And you get it every week.
Every week. Even if the guys aren't certain,

Speaker 2 they're really good. So now you got a

Speaker 2 Nico.

Speaker 2 And now you got Daryl Stingley and you got Stingley. Ooh.
Ooh, that's a nasty combo. I understand what you're saying.
Yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah,

Speaker 2 ain't no nights off. Well, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 Ain't no Sundays off. I'm sorry.
Sundays. Ain't no Sundays.

Speaker 2 Oh, Joe.

Speaker 2 Lawrence Taylor has officially said no to Abdul Carter wearing 56 per New York Post.

Speaker 2 I know he would love to wear that number, but hey, I think it's retired. Get another number.
I don't care if it's double zero and make it famous. This is what Abdul Carter wrote.

Speaker 2 The worst thing he could have said was no, my stance doesn't change. LT GOAT, nothing but respect.
This is just going to make me work even harder. Love it.
OJO, I said it.

Speaker 2 I said, look, me personally, OJo, I don't even know why he would want that number. Because he, I mean, do you understand? That's like a kid going to Chicago to say, hey, let me get 23.

Speaker 2 Or

Speaker 2 you going to LA and says, okay, can I get 824? Can I get 33? Could I get 34? Could I get 32? I'm trying to figure out. What?

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Chad, let me tell you this. When I got drafted by the Celtics, this is true story.
It's crazy that you're brought up.

Speaker 2 So they call, you get drafted, you go back there, say, hey, we got to get this jersey printed. What number do you want? I say, well, I won 24 in college.

Speaker 2 They're like, well, that's definitely not available. I said, wow.
Because you got Koozie. You got Koozie.
You got Bird. You got Mikael.

Speaker 2 You got Paris. You got Dennis Johnson.

Speaker 2 Casey Jones. How much I got Cowen? I got Bill Sharman.
Tom Heinzer. Bill Russell.

Speaker 2 You know what they told me? How about we tell you what's the numbers available?

Speaker 2 They said the Celtics told me we're going to tell you what numbers are available. That's how many numbers were retired.
So I respect that, that LT didn't give his number up.

Speaker 2 Those guys have earned that right. They've, you know, blood, sweat, and tears in them numbers.
They deserve to stay up there forever. So I respect that.

Speaker 2 And I look, I think Abdul Carter, but people don't understand.

Speaker 2 L T is the only player ever to be defensive rookie of the year and defensive player of the year in the same season yeah he's one of two men in the 100 plus year history of the nfl to win the mvp as a defensive player he and allen page

Speaker 2 do you understand what that means So that means that the guy that wins the defensive player of the year as a rookie, he's also going to be defensive player of the year of the entire league.

Speaker 8 And you know what? The funny thing about it is even if I was a player and I respect that dude Carter for wanting to wear 56, even if I was a player, I wouldn't want to be in those shoes.

Speaker 2 Not in that market. In that market, in that media market, that means

Speaker 8 not only are you a high pick, then you have to meet expectations every week. There is no room for error.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 8 There is no room for error wearing 56 if he did grace you the opportunity to wear 56 because at every at every turn and corner at every minute they're going to have a magnifying glass on your ass as great as you are coming out if anything would i rather do pick your own number and make it famous imagine going to san francisco you will receive and say hey can i get 80

Speaker 2 hey hey oh i don't i don't want i don't even want that pressure no i don't want that i don't want that pressure

Speaker 2 got me i understand

Speaker 2 why you guys break it down it makes a lot of sense why a kid would want certain people's numbers. Yeah, you're right,

Speaker 2 it's just it's a handful of guys you don't want to put that number on, yeah.

Speaker 8 Hey, Twin, it's certain shoes I don't want to feel, bro.

Speaker 2 I take that.

Speaker 8 Listen, if I was a hooper, if I was a hooper, like like Unc said, if I was a hooper and I happened to go to Chicago, just hypothetically speaking, I ain't want no number.

Speaker 2 I'm not wanting to wear 23, I don't want nothing with a two in it.

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 2 that's too close to 23. I don't want 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26.
I want nothing with a 280.

Speaker 2 I ain't messing with that. Hello, Joe.
Yo, Joe.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

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Speaker 2 Tuan, let me know what you think. We got a Twitter debate for the agent and it started this week and everyone is asking us to weigh in.
It began.

Speaker 2 Do you think 100 ninjas could be one gorilla everybody just got to be dedicated to this no yeah dedicated dedicated to death

Speaker 2 dedicated to death hold on

Speaker 2 people are you talking about a champion z are you are they talking about a silverback he said a gorilla

Speaker 2 a silverback

Speaker 2 well they want to be 100 i want to be 100 i'm not going to be in that first 15.

Speaker 8 Listen, it don't matter what number you are.

Speaker 2 I don't think people are really underestimating the strength of her silverback gorilla in general.

Speaker 2 You know who the

Speaker 2 fight?

Speaker 2 100.

Speaker 2 It don't matter.

Speaker 2 Hey, you better get 1,000. And you talk about just what they're going to do with him.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 no.

Speaker 2 Everybody dying.

Speaker 2 Twan, what's going to happen?

Speaker 2 The first guy,

Speaker 2 that next patch, then see what he do to that first team. They're like, no, I'm just going to mill.

Speaker 2 I'm good. I'm good.

Speaker 8 It's so funny when we look at these hypotheticals, especially when they come across Twitter and sometimes it's outlandish because you just view a, you view, you view a gorilla and be like, oh, a hundred dollars could actually take that.

Speaker 8 And you really don't understand the type of power.

Speaker 2 One punch, you're going to kill a man.

Speaker 2 Kill? Boy, you out of there. One patch.
One punch.

Speaker 2 Hey, watch them look at them when they fighting in the wild yeah and see with how they hit each other in the wild hey you hey twan you ever seen the um the clip uh the gorillas they going at it in the zoo and the lady screaming behind the wall yeah

Speaker 8 somebody do something break it up listen you can you can you can see the power in them two out there out there tussling you can you can feel the power and it's just a video and a human being

Speaker 2 man stop playing

Speaker 2 that's that's important

Speaker 2 i want no smoke

Speaker 2 like i said i want to be 99 or 100 because after he went them 98 i'm gone he beat 100 but two of us he ain't never touched hey somebody got a little to tell a story that's gonna be me hey man hey he was slaying them i was like oh my goodness he been somebody oh yo he bit somebody all about he ripped the eye out like oh my goodness he pulled somebody

Speaker 2 oh you be boxing go ahead oh Go ahead and go on there now.

Speaker 2 No, no, no.

Speaker 8 I'm going to be the one on the end, on the tell you. I'm going to be the one to tell a story so I can tell.
I can speak at everybody's funeral.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Tell them what happened.
I don't want no part of that. Absolutely not.
All right.

Speaker 2 Last segment of the night. It's time for Q and A.

Speaker 8 Oh, man. Tonight was good.

Speaker 2 I enjoyed that.

Speaker 8 I felt like Doris Burke, boy.

Speaker 2 I'm talking basketball like I played.

Speaker 2 Doris Burke, good, though. I like Doris Burke.
Oh, yeah,

Speaker 2 she's good. She's good.

Speaker 2 Gold standard. Uh, when are you gonna finally admit Jordan is the goat?

Speaker 2 Never,

Speaker 2 you don't think Jordan the GOAT

Speaker 2 goat, James.

Speaker 2 Okay, James Coleman said Rockets, Sprockets, Hot pockets,

Speaker 2 Warriors and Fire.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Marcel said, oh, we never talk about the fact that from an organization point of view, Kawhi did what Joel should have done for his employer with not going to the Olympics.

Speaker 2 Kawhi didn't start the season. Now look at him.
And Joel was the opposite. I agree.
Tuan, let me know what you think. We saw Joel

Speaker 2 limp out of the season last year he was probably what what you think two years uh uh what 50 60 on that leg instead of taking time off having a surgery or just rest and recovery he goes into the he goes to the olympics and he comes into the season hobbled well if you limp into the season you're gonna limp out of it because it's hard to get healthy when you're playing every other night what do you think how should joel and i understand the americans wanted because you had yoke and they wanted somebody to be able to bang with yoke But as a player, selfishly, as an ownership,

Speaker 2 how do you think, Joel,

Speaker 2 if you're Joel, how do you handle it? Let's forget what they should have done. If you're Joel and Bean, how do you handle it?

Speaker 2 I would have probably, I would have said, listen,

Speaker 2 Grant Hill, I would have told Grant Hill, look, I would love to play, but I got to be healthy come the season. These guys are the ones paying me.
I need to be 100%.

Speaker 2 Is there any way I still could be on the team,

Speaker 2 go on the trip, participate, maybe even practice a little bit, but I got to sit out. I'm not going to take a chance of getting hurt and furthering myself.
And I don't know if they would have did that,

Speaker 2 but I would have took the recognition of making a team, but I would have not been able to play. Kind of remember when Bird played and they just kind of just sat

Speaker 2 backwards. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 It was more ceremony. Yeah, I'm on a team.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? I still want to go with the guys. I want to go to Paris.
I want to go through the whole procedure. I just bring my own doctor on the road, my own workout guys.
They work me out

Speaker 2 into the court while we're practicing and put somebody in that spot. But at least let me still be a part of the, oh, I want to hang out with the guys.

Speaker 2 I want to spend the summer with the guys and still hang out with them. But I would have said my obligation is to my team to be healthy to start the season.
We got Paul George.

Speaker 2 We're trying to do something special. We got Maxi.
We think we got a chance to compete with the Celtics in the Easter Conference. That's what I would have did.

Speaker 2 Because I know it's an honor to be able to play an Olympic team. I know guys want to be able to do that and put that on their resume.
So you know that feels like that. So

Speaker 2 I would have just tried to figure out a way I still could be a part of it, but not actually participating and playing. And I think they probably wouldn't have let them do it.

Speaker 2 I don't know for sure if they would have did it, but they probably would have let them come and still have been a part of the team and still work out with the guys.

Speaker 2 But I wouldn't have put that pressure on my knee.

Speaker 2 Truth and Antoine made me become Seeds fans. He's asking, if they go back to back, do you think they keep the same team together and try to go for the three-peat?

Speaker 2 Depending, they got a new ownership group.

Speaker 2 People got to understand that. So, this is new guys coming in.

Speaker 2 I don't know what their bottom line is going to be financially. We know they're paying a pretty penny for the team.
They got two guys making $300 million. And

Speaker 2 they got another guy. They got two guys making excess of $100 million.
And Al Horford is making, what, $30, $40 million a season? Yeah, they got a lot of money. You got Krazingas.

Speaker 2 And Derek White. They're paying paying seven guys to be honest

Speaker 2 they're passing seven guys they're paying seven guys they're picking seven guys chad top money so

Speaker 2 i mean it's gonna be tough i mean we know it's hard in basketball with the salary cap and all that it's gonna be tough uh it's it's up to the new owners and what they feel they if they want to see if they can get them a championship under their belt and pay that luxury tax and and comfortable doing that starting off in the negative you know if that's what they want to do start off in the negative um but it all depends.

Speaker 2 You know, the jury's still out on the ownership. This new ownership package group, we got.
We got to see what how they feel.

Speaker 2 It's really on them because you got to think, the Celtics, and we, we, the Celtics don't have their own arena.

Speaker 2 That's the problem right now. The Celtics don't have their own arena, they're sharing that.

Speaker 2 And so, I don't know what this group's gonna do.

Speaker 2 Hey, that's funny. When you think about it,

Speaker 8 Toronto, even though they have a new group, even though they're paying seven players top dollar and top money, if the reward of what you're paying brings you a championship, why not keep doing it?

Speaker 2 Why not stick with it? Because you're losing money.

Speaker 2 You got Jason Tatum making 314, Jalen Brown making 306. You got

Speaker 2 Trew Holiday making 130, Derek White making 120, Prozingo's making probably about 35. You got Al Horford making about 30, Prayton Pritchard making good money.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 let's just say for the sake of argument, how much money am I making by winning that championship?

Speaker 8 Hold on, I thought that was the end goal. So what is the end goal as a GM? What is the end goal as ownership?

Speaker 2 I would make money and win a championship.

Speaker 8 That ain't how it works.

Speaker 2 This ain't 2K. Well,

Speaker 2 if I spend like,

Speaker 2 you watch the game, I think at some point the self is going to have to make a decision. It's going to be really impossible to fulfill two, $300 million contracts for its entirety.

Speaker 2 I think eventually they're going to have to make a decision on which one they're going to keep. They're going to have to get off one of them.

Speaker 2 And I think they kept it to obviously to be able to win one more. And then I think they're going to think about it.
Like Uncle said, I think they're paying too many guys.

Speaker 2 They're going to have to trade or bust a move or do something and break it up just a little bit. Just a little bit.
And the new ownership group is going to probably do that. Think about this, Chad.

Speaker 2 The Dallas Bappers traded Luca. They traded Luca.

Speaker 2 That's crazy. Because they knew they had to pay him $350.

Speaker 2 Luca was going to make $350 next year. They cost Luca $116 million by trading him.
That's crazy. More than that when you pick up California taxes.
Yeah. That new ownership group traded him.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 They got off that money.

Speaker 2 Chris 2K.

Speaker 2 Great said Antoine asked great football questions. Make him a regular.
Yeah, you can tell Twan likes the game of football. He's done unbelievable tonight.
Appreciate that, Tuan. Jamar

Speaker 2 Sanders, Bernie Sanders, Colonel Sanders, Lions for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 Oh, that was a great. Oh, yeah, I like that.
Yeah, you got some great takes, Honk. I'm going to give you good credit.
You got some great takes.

Speaker 2 So I can have another one.

Speaker 2 How can people be surprised,

Speaker 2 how can people be surprised Shadur dropped so far knowing there was uh no team that had a great pre-draft interview with him

Speaker 2 man

Speaker 2 um

Speaker 2 because y'all gotta

Speaker 2 explain what's y'all interview process go through something

Speaker 2 that's that interview man they interview don't mean nothing if you're a quarterback if they're a quarterback they'll give you a play they'll call a play oh yeah yeah yeah they'll want you to repeat said play Yeah.

Speaker 2 Then they already told you to say, okay, this is our play right here. It's called such and such.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, here it is.
They let you see it on the screen.

Speaker 2 They let you see it on the screen.

Speaker 2 Boom. Now, they have you

Speaker 2 regurgitate what that play is and go draw it up on the blackboard. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then go through your process.

Speaker 8 Go through your reads.

Speaker 8 If they do this defensively, where you going with the ball? But if they do this, where you going with the ball? Like that, like I understand that part of the interview process.

Speaker 8 But like, listen, you have, hey, Tuan, you have people, you go in that interview process and they perfect.

Speaker 2 Perfect.

Speaker 8 You get their ass on the field.

Speaker 2 Can you play worth a damn?

Speaker 8 So that interview process to me, man, that, you know what, that don't mean nothing to me. What you look like when you turn the film on?

Speaker 8 What you look like when you play against better competition? What you look like when you play against competition? That's inferior.

Speaker 2 That's what matters.

Speaker 8 I don't want to hear nothing about no going to no goddamn board or me asking you questions and how you talk back to me that's not winning me no games what do you do when the goddamn whistle blows at one o'clock on sunday

Speaker 2 because you know i hate the

Speaker 2 dumbass excuses they give it man that's another question that somebody made but his numbers don't just like you know sometimes your numbers stand out where you're like this guy really can play so his numbers are irrelevant in this draft process

Speaker 2 i guess they weren't I mean, sometimes, sometimes people take the numbers. Sometimes people take the combines.

Speaker 2 sometimes people take the interview you'd like to have everything lines up guy plays well on the field guy goes to the combine shows out you bring him into your building you're like yep love everything about him

Speaker 2 sometimes the guy have two or three sometimes the guy have one or three then you have to make a decision is this the right guy for us

Speaker 2 OUSS 2004 honest question why can't people criticize Shador his stock plummeted once the football stopped and the conversation started.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean,

Speaker 2 you can criticize everybody. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
No, I agree. That's fine.
Everybody's worthy of criticism.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I think I don't mind the criticism.

Speaker 2 I think it's about if the next guy got picked and he's better than me, then I can respect that.

Speaker 2 I think from my understanding, and you guys can tell me if I'm wrong, but

Speaker 2 I don't think the guys that got picked ahead of him. I don't think you you guys have them.
From what I'm hearing from most people,

Speaker 2 they didn't grade out. They weren't graded.
They weren't graded. They didn't grade out better than him.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But you see what he said, Ocho.
He said, what's football stop? But he's a football player. And we should suppose to be having a conversation.
We're supposed to be critiquing him on football.

Speaker 2 Football. Not the conversation surrounding football.
Okay,

Speaker 2 what about? So what... Did he not play well? Did he not? I mean, and I get it.
Look, I mean, sometimes guys get nervous. Sometimes guys don't test well.
And that's okay.

Speaker 2 Look, I don't need a guy to take the SAT. I need a guy to be able to play well on Sundays and Mondays.
And I think that's all that matters.

Speaker 2 Thursday night. I think, Chad, we need to make this a topic.
These execs have to understand, too, it is NIL money now. It's real money guys are getting in school.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, you're going to see a Maybach. You're going to see a diamond chain.
You're going to see a Rolex.

Speaker 2 You're going to see all these things before that big NFL paycheck because they already get money. So you can't judge a guy because he went out and bought himself some nice things.

Speaker 2 He's earned that money.

Speaker 2 And I think the exec got to understand that too. They have to realize too, guys are going to have already made it.
They already living in a nice house. They already have nice things.

Speaker 2 So you can't hold that against them. That's part of the game now.

Speaker 2 On the collegiate level, that's part of the game now. You get NIL money.
So you can't knock this guy because he's getting money and he likes, he got a nice chain. He got a nice watch.

Speaker 2 Of course, that's the things that we want.

Speaker 2 We different that's how we do especially in a black culture y'all know like that's the first thing i want first thing i want was a rolex

Speaker 2 i want to be a rolex i got that i want to be a rolex i want to be a car i want to i want the bands i want the maybach i want the that's what i want the first thing yeah so you i think i think they looking at that too because he had style he had flash already but this that's the game now nil money Yeah, ain't like, you know, and his daddy played, how about his daddy played football for 20 years and and made a ton of money and played bus business?

Speaker 2 And what if his daddy played baseball? And what if he wanted to buy? What did he want to play baseball? What if he wanted to buy his son a bunch of stuff?

Speaker 2 So I just think, you know, I hate when it just get outside the football ability.

Speaker 2 That's why I was so curious to hear you guys' comment about it as far as football, because the same from what I've watched this year, he was one of the top quarterbacks of football. He wasn't 144.

Speaker 2 He was.

Speaker 2 He shouldn't have been picked 144.

Speaker 2 I know that. Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 Mark Jasmine said, my new sports center, nightcap. Syria Pete, peace, please play for my daughter, who's a sophomore at Michigan State.
And taking finals this week, we will be at your Detroit show.

Speaker 2 Cyril, thank you very much. And we are praying for your daughter.
And I know she's going to knock it out of the park taking those finals. Cupcake Mama, good evening, guys.

Speaker 2 If life had playoffs, what moment in your life would be your championship win?

Speaker 8 What moment in life would be my championship win?

Speaker 2 Go ahead, Chad. Go ahead.

Speaker 8 I'm gonna tell you, my Super Bowl, my championship win is coming up in 2026 when I walk down that aisle.

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 8 it finally is that I finally got something in life that gives me structure, you know, something that gives me purpose, you huh?

Speaker 2 You feel me?

Speaker 2 I got that.

Speaker 2 You get married at 26, 26? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Congratulations, my brother.
Congratulations. Appreciate it.

Speaker 8 I'm here.

Speaker 2 Hey, I'm going to have an open bar.

Speaker 8 So all y'all can come.

Speaker 2 Twant.

Speaker 2 You're going to drink, though.

Speaker 8 Well, you don't drink.

Speaker 8 It's for the guests.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, it's for the guests.

Speaker 8 Then I'm gonna have, I'm gonna have Frankie, Beverly, and Maze. I'm gonna have them come play.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're gonna have you will have Maze because unfortunately, Frankie Beverly,

Speaker 2 I'm gonna have Mays, you know. Hey, it's gonna be sad.
Come on,

Speaker 2 yeah, it's gonna be, it's gonna be, it's gonna be a good time.

Speaker 2 Come on, huh? Nah,

Speaker 2 I just crushed you. He just crushed me.
He crushed me bad. I crushed you bad.
Rest in peace. rest in peace frankie rest in peace

Speaker 2 oh that's a good one

Speaker 2 we got two kids am i my two daughters that's that's that's that's it for me my two daughters

Speaker 2 that's a dude for me

Speaker 2 i think we know my championship moment tj said oh joe i need that corey dylan jersey with your signature on it

Speaker 8 Oh, no, boy.

Speaker 2 Hey, that's a classic. That CD jersey.

Speaker 8 I got it hanging up there for a reason.

Speaker 2 CD, CD, this is the last jersey he wore when he was in Cincinnati.

Speaker 8 He took it off and threw his pads in the stands before he left. That's the jersey he had on.
I ain't letting that go nowhere.

Speaker 2 If, if, if ever,

Speaker 2 boy, please.

Speaker 2 Ain't no joke telling him. I fall on hard times.
I might have to auction out. I'm gonna have to lay Sotheby's.
That's the last jersey that Corey Dylan wore. Hey, boy, that ain't going nowhere, boy.

Speaker 8 Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 No, sir.

Speaker 2 That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Guys, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

Speaker 2 I am your host, your favorite Unc, Shannon Sharp, my partner, co-host, number 85, Liberty City's own bingo ring of fame artery pro bowler, all-pro, Chad Ocho Cenco Johnson.

Speaker 2 And joining us tonight, man, great conversation on basketball and very, very knowledgeable about the game of football. Asked some very interesting questions of Ocho and I.

Speaker 2 He won an NCA championship in 96 at Kentucky.

Speaker 2 He won an NBA championship in 2006 with the Miami Heat. He is a 17 and a half point scorer throughout his NBA career.
Have an unbelievable career. And Tuan Walker, Tuan, thank you for joining.

Speaker 2 Man, come back and join us again soon. Hey,

Speaker 2 I'm tripping.

Speaker 8 I'm tripping. I did this with everybody that came on here.

Speaker 2 Tuan, we would have played one-on-one right now until 11.

Speaker 8 You think you'll beat me?

Speaker 2 No, you work out too much for me. I play golf, child.

Speaker 2 I play golf too much. But you know what, child? I ain't never seen you shooting nothing like that.
So I don't know if you're skilled enough. I just know you work out a lot.

Speaker 2 I know you box and work out a lot. I'm coming to the golf course, man.
I'm drinking a little bit. Okay, okay, okay.
Hang on. Hang on.
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Speaker 2 Shador Sanders, after a long, long wait, got drafted by the Cleveland Browns at pick 144. The Warriors beat the Rockets 104.93.

Speaker 2 Thanks to Steph Curry, 36 points, seven rebounds, nine assists.

Speaker 2 The Nuggets

Speaker 2 clip, the Clippers, Aaron Gordon gordon dunks the basketball as the buzzer goes off they win 101.99 thanks to nicola yokic 36 points 21 rebounds eight assists and who else we had

Speaker 2 thunder sweet the grizzlies thanks to uh shea gill just having 38. miners john you know they didn't have much of a chance and the calves go up 3-0 as they blow out

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