Nightcap Hour 1: Unc, Ocho, & Iso Joe react to Shedeur expecting to start on Friday for Browns preseason game!

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Speaker 22 I'm your favorite unc Shannon sharp my partner and co-host Liberty City Zone Bingo's Ring of Fame honoree Madden Adjuster Pro Bowler all pro that's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson Joe Iso Joe is having some technical difficulties our third co-host but he'll be joining us shortly.

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Speaker 23 We've got Juvie joining us a little later, but first, Ocho, I know you had something you wanted to get off your chest yeah yeah most definitely most definitely um brother cam newton brother cam newton you left a very long soliloquy a dissertation if you'd say on instagram on your show on fourth and one you know it was it was it was it was taking a shot at me uh complaining about the madden ratings and you wanting to play me at madden so obviously

Speaker 23 I took some kind of offense to it, but I'm a challenger. I'm a competitor.
And you had all these,

Speaker 23 you had all these big words and these nouns and verbs, and you was rhyming and having nice bars to it and talking real spicy like you really like that.

Speaker 22 They call you thumbs.

Speaker 23 And, you know, you had a chance. They just revealed the new Madden 26 and you was playing the game against somebody.

Speaker 23 And lo and behold, all this trash talking, you coming at the king, talk about how good you are and what you're going to do to me. And you got trash.
Chat, can y'all see that chat?

Speaker 22 You got trash

Speaker 23 man, 35 to 6, 35 to 8.

Speaker 22 Who beat him, Ocho? Who is that? He playing against.

Speaker 23 I'm not, I'm not even sure.

Speaker 22 It don't even matter, huh?

Speaker 23 It don't even matter.

Speaker 23 The fact that, listen, the fact that you're talking trash to me, someone that is a known gamer, he said, Oh, I don't know you to play, I know you to play FIFA, I don't know you to play Madden.

Speaker 23 Well, obviously, from the looks at it, you don't know how to play Madden either.

Speaker 22 Damn, Cam.

Speaker 23 Hey, hey, Cam. And hey, Uncle Let me tell you how bold bold he was and how confident he was, you know,

Speaker 23 in a sense of arrogance almost. Talk about the winner of the Madden game.
We can swap shows. Like, if I beat him, I can go, he can go on fourth to one.
And if he beat me, he come on nightcap.

Speaker 23 I'm like, man, listen here, partner. This ain't what you do.

Speaker 23 You talk like you him, but you not him.

Speaker 23 Dog, don't ever challenge me at anything regarding video games. You play video games for recreational purposes.
I play video games as a way of life to pay my bills and take care of child support.

Speaker 24 We are not the same.

Speaker 22 All right?

Speaker 22 He puts up on Cam.

Speaker 22 Huh?

Speaker 22 I said, that man puts up on Cam, man.

Speaker 23 Man, listen, listen, Toy Manu, you know what?

Speaker 23 Hey,

Speaker 23 Cam and tell it, man, listen, don't you shoot at the king. You bet not miss, boy.
And just from the, from, from looking at that that's embarrassing like why would i on

Speaker 23 tell me why would i waste my time huh

Speaker 23 why would i waste my time

Speaker 23 chat what y'all think chat make sure y'all y'all tell cam man don't play at me like that no more man don't play at me like that man listen not only am i a true gamer i'm a gaming enthusiast i've been playing madden since 1988 sega genesis John Madden on the cover.

Speaker 23 Like they play for fun, man. They play for game.
They play for shits and giggles.

Speaker 23 Man, it's life and death over here with me, man, when it comes to mad, man.

Speaker 22 Yeah, Cam got that look on his face, like, man, what the hell happened?

Speaker 23 Yeah, what I got myself into and got the nerve to be, you know, come coming at me, man.

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was slick with it, though, Ocho.
He was slick with you.

Speaker 23 Yeah, putting his words together real good. You should have done that.

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were eloquent.
They were world burst.

Speaker 23 Yeah, yeah. Night, all them nouns and pronouns.

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had them messed together.

Speaker 23 Listen, hey, Cam, want you to do me a favor.

Speaker 22 Open the Bible.

Speaker 23 Open the Bible.

Speaker 23 Hey, hold up. Hey, what's up, Joe?

Speaker 23 Hey, chat. Y'all do me a favor, chat.
Y'all tell Cam to open the Bible and go to Leviticus

Speaker 23 chapter 8, verse 5.

Speaker 23 Thou shalt not trieth vulture.

Speaker 23 Don't play at me, Cam. Yo, that's what I do, right?

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That man put something on.

Speaker 23 Hey, hey, 35.

Speaker 23 Hey, I should have, I should have sent Ash. I forgot to see your screenshot of my game.
You know, I won my game, huh? I won my game. You know, I did what I had to do.

Speaker 23 I gave, I gave young bull a small sample size of what I can do. You know, I didn't want to show too much.

Speaker 23 You know, man, I'm a developer. I'm a developer in the game.
I don't just play. I'm a developer.
They come to me for insight. You know?

Speaker 23 And stop playing with me, man.

Speaker 22 Yeah,

Speaker 22 I don't know who the old boy is, but he put something on Cam.

Speaker 23 Yeah, man. Listen, man.

Speaker 22 Hey, matter of fact, I just

Speaker 22 tweeted all day.

Speaker 22 Cam might have to take two weeks off after this one.

Speaker 23 Oh, no. Well, listen, whenever he resurfaced, we're going to let him know.

Speaker 23 We ain't going to forget this one.

Speaker 22 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 22 Oh, boy, put foots in him.

Speaker 22 He put foots in it, but with this score here, I did not anticipate this. With three minutes left in the ballgame, 35 to 8 i don't know what made him go for two

Speaker 22 i mean what i mean he's what i mean

Speaker 22 what was it 27 and a half i mean i'm confused oh maybe that's a thing is that a thing ojo i mean you go for two i mean i i don't know oh you're help me out oh help me out

Speaker 23 The game was over.

Speaker 22 Why you go for two?

Speaker 23 Listen, I think you went for two trying to make the score look like

Speaker 22 35-7, 35-8. It's the same.

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 22 Unless the over-under was 27 and a half. That's the only way.

Speaker 22 Babe, please.

Speaker 23 Oh, man. The fact that he had a five-minute video talking about how good he was.

Speaker 23 That's the only reason I'm really answering back, you know, because you, you firing at me like you him like you i'm like okay but i'm i started to believe it he was so he was talking good because he said he was like ranked like i ranked rank what ranked last that's the only rank that's the only rank you're gonna be

Speaker 23 based off that

Speaker 22 boy that boy

Speaker 22 hey

Speaker 22 oh my goodness

Speaker 22 Oh my goodness.

Speaker 23 But he doing all that talking. Chat, chat.
Y'all saw the video he made? Five minutes long.

Speaker 22 Five minutes long. I'm like, what are we talking about?

Speaker 23 And like, I was starting to believe it. I'm like, well, maybe he is that good.
Well, maybe he does know how to play.

Speaker 22 And long below.

Speaker 23 Hey, when them lights on, when them lights on, you know, you can't have.

Speaker 22 Cam got gone.

Speaker 23 Yeah, you can't have when them lights on. Everybody watching the pressure on, can you still perform after talking that trash? See, that's what I'm used to doing, huh? I'm used to talking trash.

Speaker 23 You talking cam about his game and then then going out there and backing it up that ain't what cam do he ain't me you can't be me you can't there's nothing you can beat me in nothing

Speaker 23 respect the people

Speaker 23 cam you got 24 hours to respond nah he done did enough talking he done did enough talking that's the problem he doing no more talking yeah he doing he doing too much talking and no stick work

Speaker 23 Too much talking and no stick work.

Speaker 22 But I ain't gonna lie, Ocho. I thought Cole, but the way he was talking, I said, man, damn, I was scared.
I'm the Ocho. Please don't, Charlie.

Speaker 23 Listen, I'm gonna tell you what my grandma used to told me.

Speaker 23 The loudest one in the room is the weakest one in the room.

Speaker 23 That's what my grandma told me. And then you got some, like, I'm, I don't really, that, that, that, that analogy doesn't work with me because I'm the loud one.
But I really mean what I say.

Speaker 23 And I back up everything I say from A to Z. You understand what I'm talking about? I wouldn't put on no performance like that because that's embarrassing.
Cause that's my last name.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 22 I don't know. Joe must be in the halfway house or something.

Speaker 22 Wi-Fi. Can y'all hear me? I guess he's talking to me.
Can y'all hear me? What's up, Joe? Yeah, man. Hey,

Speaker 22 my bad, man. We have some technical difficulties over here.
I'm getting it right, man. Y'all know I normally be on here locked like the choir storm, man.
I'll be ready.

Speaker 22 Right, right.

Speaker 22 Is the weather bad? Because normally the last couple of days, the weather has been really, it's been raining really hard in Atlanta. So is the weather bad?

Speaker 22 No, I don't think the weather is bad right now, man.

Speaker 22 We're getting it right over here. We're getting it right.
Joe, where you at? It'll be Madonna.

Speaker 22 I'm at the crib. What happened?

Speaker 23 Yeah, I keep breaking up.

Speaker 22 I've been used to why you don't think the weather bad. Hell, just look out the window.

Speaker 22 Unless you're in a bunker.

Speaker 22 It ain't raining or nothing like that. You know what I mean?

Speaker 22 Man,

Speaker 23 I just had to talk about Cam Newton. Cam Newton even made a whole video talking trash, right? You saw it?

Speaker 22 I see it, man. Try your gangster, bro.

Speaker 23 He tried my gangster, Joe. He just played.
He just played somebody two days ago, right? You know, they had a Madden release, and everybody had a chance to play somebody, another gamer.

Speaker 23 You know, I won my game. Yeah.
Man, Joe, ask him what the score was when he played, When he played. What?

Speaker 22 Cam play somebody?

Speaker 23 He played somebody.

Speaker 22 Ask me what the score was. What was the score, Ocho?

Speaker 23 And the score was 35-8, man. He lost, man.

Speaker 22 A whole lot to a few. Oh.
35-8.

Speaker 22 Hey, don't let your guard down, Ocho, Jay, because the man lost.

Speaker 23 I ain't gonna miss it. I ain't missing it.
Hey, Joe,

Speaker 23 it's at a point right now, Joe. It's like me challenging you to a game of basketball, and you know you're gonna whoop me.
That's how you cam now after seeing that, man.

Speaker 23 Ocho say, no, no you got he after you get beat that bad oh joe he got to build back up he just can't just challenge you he got to build back up he got to be the hundred he got to be the hundred gamers consecutive before he can challenge ocho again you know what he got to do he has to work his way he got to play micah parsons he got to play des bryan he got to play uh who else is good derwin james he got to pay tank dale before you come at the king you got to play you know those that are underneath me you know when it comes to this game and stuff joe just you don't just get on the game and say hey ocho play me.

Speaker 23 You got to earn this, man.

Speaker 22 After you, after you don't got beat like that, then yeah, he can't play you, oh Joe.

Speaker 23 Especially after that long video.

Speaker 22 It was a nice video.

Speaker 23 He was putting his words. Nice, Joe.
He sounded like a rapper.

Speaker 22 He sounded like a bunch of people.

Speaker 22 Game. You ain't going to play him.
You're not going to play. Child, please.

Speaker 23 Hey, listen, I play him. I play him, but it has to be an instruction environment.
I want the lights real bright. I want the world to watch.

Speaker 23 Because that lets me know based off what I just saw, that means he falls under pressure.

Speaker 22 Oh, you want the stage set. You

Speaker 22 you want the stage set

Speaker 23 yeah because i like it i like i like joe i like it when the light's bright that's why i wear shades okay i like it when the light's bright yeah all right

Speaker 22 i want to see this man i want to see this i want to see y'all boys get down man that way we can cut up all the riff rap all that talking jibber jabber bumping your gum we can see who got who got that thumb work who could do something

Speaker 23 you know who got that thumb work joe i won my game joe I won my game. Like, it's on YouTube right now.

Speaker 23 You can go back and look at my thumb work and you look at Cam and his presentation, the way he was talking, and then you look at the end result.

Speaker 22 It don't matter. Hey, Ocho, Cam must have been playing with

Speaker 22 index fingers.

Speaker 22 He must be playing like he had a typewriter.

Speaker 22 Hey, Cam say he does this now.

Speaker 22 Nah, she's here. Yeah, he couldn't tell.

Speaker 22 He knew.

Speaker 22 But okay, we can, we can can go through that.

Speaker 23 That's enough. That's enough.

Speaker 22 Now, Neil say he's coming back, Ocho.

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Speaker 22 Hey, check this out. Shadur Sanders will start Cleveland's Friday preseason opener.

Speaker 22 Kevin Stafanski confirmed this today and added that Tyler Snoop Huntley will be the only other quarterback to play in the game with Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, and Dylan Gabriel slated to raise.

Speaker 22 Won't he do it? Won't he do it, Ark?

Speaker 22 Hey, look, look.

Speaker 22 The opportunity has presented itself.

Speaker 22 It's kind of like divine order, if y'all ask me, Ark and Ocho. You know what I mean?

Speaker 22 It's like God working mysterious ways, man.

Speaker 22 I know we don't want nobody to get hurt, but to see them two dudes have, you know, somewhat hamstring injuries and flappo, obviously, probably who's not going to play.

Speaker 22 Man, I'm looking forward to him just coming out, you know, relaxing and just having fun, bro. I think it's going to be a good time for the young fella.

Speaker 22 My mind, you know, my mindset is

Speaker 22 Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel about to get some permanent ribs.

Speaker 22 I'm going to play so good, they're going to be gone.

Speaker 22 It's going to be gone. It's old for them.

Speaker 22 It's old for them.

Speaker 22 Just go, hey, just enjoy the moment. You don't have to do anything.
Man, that's it. Just be you.
Titus, stop.

Speaker 22 Hey, but look,

Speaker 22 can y'all imagine like the jitters or the butterflies that he may have? Like, he's actually about to get ready to live out of the American dream, you know, which is making it to the NFL.

Speaker 22 That's probably one of his main goals. And to be able to, you know, start in his first preseason game.

Speaker 22 Man, I remember when I was a rookie in Ocho, listen, boy, I took the preseason like it was the playoffs,

Speaker 22 like you know, as because as a young fella, you know, you gotta prove yourself, you know, you gotta

Speaker 22 prove yourself. So, only thing you know is going out there playing hard and showing that you belong.

Speaker 22 What's up, Eddie?

Speaker 23 Wait, yeah, it's a party over there, huh?

Speaker 22 What's up, Titan, man?

Speaker 22 Phantom's done, got a haircut. Where he at?

Speaker 22 He's right here.

Speaker 23 Oh, I thought that was Teddy.

Speaker 22 What

Speaker 22 I'm just

Speaker 22 oh, they are you gonna?

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Speaker 23 get him, get him, Thanos,

Speaker 22 Titus.

Speaker 22 You need to hush, bro.

Speaker 23 You would like, hey, you got some killers over there, boy.

Speaker 22 I agree with you, Joe. And I I was talking to telling Ocho this.
I said, look how this thing works.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 22 Hamstring.

Speaker 22 Fourth string ain't going to start.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 22 I told you, listen. Fourth string.
He's fourth on the depth chart.

Speaker 22 Yeah. I don't know.
Because what I've been, I mean, I read and it says, man, Shador is outplaying Dylan Gabriel. And then some people keep saying, well, he ain't.
So I don't really know.

Speaker 22 I mean, I wish I could be there to actually see it for myself. But I've read more articles in which it's, it, it says, it reads that Shadur is out playing killing Gabriel.
I agree.

Speaker 22 I've been, I've been seeing some of that. I've been seeing a lot of it too.

Speaker 23 Listen,

Speaker 23 you know, my eyes and the ears, my eyes and the ears, they're in Miami.

Speaker 22 What do you mean?

Speaker 23 But

Speaker 23 what I want to know about what's going on and how.

Speaker 22 He got eyes in Miami. He got ears in Cleveland.
Okay.

Speaker 22 Okay. You hear me?

Speaker 23 So I just ask. I go straight to the source.
I go to the source that's actually on the field. I go to the source that's not a media person that's not an analyst that can give it to me straight

Speaker 23 boy what them boys out there looking like man

Speaker 23 okay boom that last time i said a name this time i'm not saying no names which is why i'm so confident and when we talk about shador and the cleveland browns that's all because i also mean no disrespect I told you we're going to get this opportunity.

Speaker 23 I didn't know it would come this fast and in this way. I've said it.
I said it before. Okay, Joe Flacco is going to be the starter.

Speaker 23 And I say, if things aren't going well for Joe Flacco, because he plays well in Spurs, he'll get on a four or five game stretch and things somewhat fall apart or come off the hinges.

Speaker 23 And then she get his opportunities. Now you get your opportunity early.
You see how it got worked?

Speaker 23 Remember the Wally Pip story? You know about the Wally Pip story, don't you?

Speaker 23 Hey, Chad, Chad, if you don't know about the Wally Pip story, look at the Wally Pip story.

Speaker 23 You know, I don't want nobody injured, but I just want want the opportunities given to players that are drafted to a team to be fair and everybody giving.

Speaker 23 Well,

Speaker 22 Wally Pip wasn't injured. He just had a headache that day.

Speaker 22 It never got his jaw back. But you look, we'll find out.
We'll see. Everybody, like I said, it's only three preseason games.
So,

Speaker 22 I mean,

Speaker 22 the mere fact that he's playing, because normally when guys, they're not expecting guys to make a tick. Oh, Joe, they don't let normally let them guys play because you know why?

Speaker 22 Because I don't want you to get hurt and I got to keep you.

Speaker 23 Hey, but listen,

Speaker 23 he's prepared for this, huh? Joe,

Speaker 23 he's prepared for this moment. If there's anything in all you've been through, the doubters, the naysayers, the haters, your enemies right there in your own backyard that drafted you.

Speaker 23 If what the owner said last week is not motivation to go out there and cut a plum full

Speaker 23 in an organized way

Speaker 23 in an organized way in a structured environment it's still the game of football show that you can be a leader calm quiet collected and reserved

Speaker 23 martha i guarantee watch what watch what happened

Speaker 23 first guarantee he marched the ass right down and got

Speaker 23 that first drive friday

Speaker 23 First drive, I guarantee you, that's how it plays out.

Speaker 23 marching right down the field listen if you don't play well i'm gonna hold him accountable

Speaker 22 if you don't play well i'm gonna hold him accountable just like we're supposed to hold everybody accountable

Speaker 22 i mean

Speaker 22 you see how they fix it up no joe huh oh they talk about oh joe flacco kenny picket and dylan gabriel are slated to rest now they hurt two of the three hurt

Speaker 22 Ain't no resting.

Speaker 22 They ain't got enough credentials. They ain't got enough time under their belt to get rest in a preseason game.
They ain't done enough.

Speaker 22 Only one got time to rest is joe flacco yeah exactly he got 18 okay

Speaker 22 i get that but them other two

Speaker 23 they fight for jobs now yeah i'm excited i'm excited you know who played tomorrow

Speaker 22 who played tomorrow the bangles huh that's who who they play who they play on you

Speaker 22 they play the eagles but we play the eagles you know okay we play the eagles you know we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna put belt to ass that's what it's y'all don't first of all y'all y'all don't play in the preseason.

Speaker 22 And guess what?

Speaker 23 Hey, we can't. Listen, we're not pulling that.
We're not pulling that this year.

Speaker 22 Y'all pull that every year.

Speaker 23 No, no, no. I'm saying they've been relaxing in the preseason, right? Not playing the preseason and then going to week one, trying to go from zero to 100.

Speaker 22 Joe, Yamar,

Speaker 23 T, I need y'all boys. Get one or two series.
Get one or two series. Just get the juices flowing.
Get acclimated to the speed of the game.

Speaker 23 I know y'all, you're veterans now.

Speaker 23 Come on now.

Speaker 23 We can't start the season 0-2, 0-3 out the gate again. We can't afford that.

Speaker 22 I can't y'all a quarter. I'll give them a quarter, Ocho.
They ain't going to play.

Speaker 22 No, not a quarter. No, they ain't playing no quarter.
They ain't playing a quarter of the first preseason game.

Speaker 22 One or two series. Damn,

Speaker 22 they ain't giving us a half.

Speaker 23 Not to the third game. Well, it's only, it's only, hey, young, it's only three games now, huh?

Speaker 22 Three, yeah.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 22 So the third game, hey joe we played a half damn near uh the whole first half yeah or play uh or play the first series of third quarter

Speaker 22 all right see what y'all got see what y'all got

Speaker 23 hey joe i love the practice so much i love the preseason so much because i wanted to get my body as acclimated to game speed as fast as possible.

Speaker 23 Joe, we could practice for 100 days straight, full pads against yourself, and you get in the game. It's nothing like that.
Nothing like that. It's faster, no matter what you do.

Speaker 23 There's no way to duplicate and replicate the speed of an actual NFL game.

Speaker 22 I don't care how much you practice. That's why I love it

Speaker 22 so much.

Speaker 23 I had Coach Lewis, hey,

Speaker 23 I told this before, Joe, I would not come out the game in preseason. I made Coach Lewis call a timeout.

Speaker 22 You wanted to get your reps in.

Speaker 23 What?

Speaker 23 It's about one series.

Speaker 22 Man,

Speaker 23 we came out and the twos went in. I told the receiver to stay back and I went back in the game.

Speaker 22 Hey, Ocho.

Speaker 22 I understand what you're saying. Rhythm and timing is everything, brother, especially in basketball.

Speaker 22 So I can understand in football, just

Speaker 22 route running, being sharp on your plays. I can understand that part.
Just like basketball, if you don't play, bro, you lose that rhythm and timing and it throws you off.

Speaker 22 Right. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 It definitely takes time. And look, I needed to get refs too.
That's how I was, Ocho. I wanted to look.

Speaker 22 I understand, okay, we're going to go a series the first the first game maybe two series or the quarter the third the second game and then we go into the half we we go at bare minimum we go into the half and normally we take the first series because and sometimes we're like okay we're gonna use the uh the first series in the third quarter we're gonna go two minutes so we're gonna go hurry up just to get that in one time

Speaker 22 but uh

Speaker 22 Yeah,

Speaker 22 I needed a preseason.

Speaker 22 I don't know how they do it. I take my hat off to these guys that come out there.
And I guess right now, the way they do it, Ocho, these scripted practices against each other.

Speaker 22 I guess that's their preseason game. That ain't, that ain't foot.
That ain't pre, no, no, it ain't the same.

Speaker 23 Not even close.

Speaker 22 But I'm anxious to see. I'm anxious to see

Speaker 22 how she do her. I look.

Speaker 22 I don't care what anybody says. You're going to be nervous.
I don't care how long you've been playing football.

Speaker 22 I got nervous every time I played.

Speaker 22 So it wasn't just the preseason. I mean, I got butterflies and I got goosebumps every game that I played.
Same. Hey, and you've been playing.
I've been playing tackle football since I was nine.

Speaker 22 And I still got nervous. Hey, hey,

Speaker 23 when they, hey, hey, Joe,

Speaker 23 they played that Phil Collins in

Speaker 22 the early night.

Speaker 22 Oh, man.

Speaker 23 When that thing played and you out there stretching,

Speaker 22 oh,

Speaker 22 hey, Joe,

Speaker 23 Joe, right before, right before kickoff and that welcome to the the game start playing.

Speaker 22 I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 23 But I'd be Joe, I'd be so nervous. I'd be so nervous.
And for one, and I made it even worse on myself, Joe, because I done talked trash all week.

Speaker 22 Oh, Joe,

Speaker 22 it said Burrow and the starters will play the first quarter.

Speaker 23 See, I told, boy, we going to Super Bowl.

Speaker 23 Hey, boy, we're going to the Super Bowl, boy.

Speaker 23 Listen, I know. I know.
Hey, hey, Zach, Zach Taylor. Hey, Zach, I know you're going to see this.
I I love you. Hey, Joe Burrow, I love you.
T. Higgins, Chase, the rest of the receivers, the O-line.

Speaker 23 Now, this, this, what they're doing, what they're doing today, what they're doing tomorrow is going to be the reason why we're going to be in San Francisco. I said it here first.
Okay.

Speaker 23 I said it here first. Now, watch how we come out week one in September.

Speaker 22 Who y'all got week one? Rhythm.

Speaker 23 It don't even matter.

Speaker 22 Cleveland.

Speaker 23 I think we got Cleveland.

Speaker 23 No, I'm serious. I think, hey, Chad,

Speaker 23 Chad, who we got on week one? The Bengals, we got Cleveland, right?

Speaker 22 You know what, me, Ocho, I ain't like open up with division opponents.

Speaker 22 Let me get my real. Let me get some time and let me get like two or three games in before I tell y'all, look.
That first game, Ocho, you ain't got your time and your foot ain't.

Speaker 22 You know, you ain't got your feet right here. You know what I'm saying? Let me get like three or four games.
And let me get y'all. Let me see y'all week four, week five.

Speaker 22 Okay, okay.

Speaker 22 But y'all do open up. Y'all do open up with Cleveland.

Speaker 23 See, I knew it. I know it won't change.

Speaker 22 At Cleveland. At Cleveland.

Speaker 23 I got to schedule them ahead. I got to schedule them.

Speaker 22 Hey, look, look, it ain't nothing like getting off to a good start neither, boy. Winning that first game.
Hey, oh, yeah, yeah. You always want to get off to a good start, boy.

Speaker 22 That's important. Yeah, you got to win that first game.
Ain't nothing like that.

Speaker 22 Hey, so the Browns are giving Shadua one day of reps with the ones for the very first time at the joint practice two days before a start. Let's see here for a second, chat.

Speaker 22 So all this time, he ain't got no work with the ones.

Speaker 22 not one not one snap not one rep

Speaker 22 he'll you won't he do it

Speaker 22 the boy finna ball out man

Speaker 22 hey a mysterious way and i'm telling you gonna go out there take them boy right down the field i'm just trying to figure out if you're really trying to do an evaluation Ocho, how can I say I'm trying to evaluate you when I don't give you the same opportunities that I'm giving everybody else that I'm evaluating?

Speaker 22 Now, Ocho, I'm going to see if you can do this job. Now, the job requires a computer, but I ain't going to give you no computer, Ocho.

Speaker 22 But this is what I'm going to do. Oh, damn.
Them other guys

Speaker 22 ain't come to work today. Okay, Ocho, you up.
Here's the computer. Now, you ain't let me work the computer the whole damn time for two weeks.

Speaker 23 But you know the funny thing about that, though?

Speaker 23 Even though I wasn't able to work the computer for them two weeks, when you put the computer in my hands, I'm going to still better than those that's had it at their disposal

Speaker 22 hello

Speaker 23 come on now i'm gonna be better than those that had the computer them other two weeks before me anyway and i'm gonna put it on display under the under the lights at that

Speaker 22 well i i just thought like if you're evaluating you evaluate under the same sort of circumstances you can't say well you can't say well i'm gonna see these two if i got two pans and i'm gonna see which one can stand the temperature i got gotta put them under the same temperature

Speaker 22 in order to do a proper evaluation. I can't let one guy get no reps with the ones, only get a few reps with the threes and fours.

Speaker 22 And now I get two days before, okay.

Speaker 22 Okay, you up, son. Yeah.
That's not an evaluation.

Speaker 22 Evaluation is

Speaker 22 you put things under the same set of circumstances over the same amount of time.

Speaker 22 I like it.

Speaker 22 That's how you get boiling or you get freezing temperatures. Because guess what? It's going to, at 212, it's going to boil.
It's either going to bust pipes or make diamonds, baby.

Speaker 22 I'm ready. This is an opportunity.

Speaker 22 This is what he waited for. This is what a lot of people cheered for.
Like, man, I sure hope he gets an opportunity.

Speaker 22 I sure hope he gets a chance to show what he can do.

Speaker 22 And this is how the opportunity came about. I don't feel bad.

Speaker 23 I know you saw this chat. I know y'all saw the Joe.
I'm not sure how often you're on Twitter, but you know, I'm on there all day having fun, making jokes. But did you see the meme, right?

Speaker 23 The meme, but

Speaker 23 I think it might have been the end of Kobe's career. Kobe might have hit 60 at a game and all of the celebs was there.
And they used that clip of

Speaker 23 a snoop dog and Kanye, everybody was court side.

Speaker 22 And they was cheering.

Speaker 23 It was hype, right? I guess Kobe might have hit 60 or something.

Speaker 22 Yeah, he hit 60 that year against Utah. That's what it was.
Yeah.

Speaker 23 And then the caption was:

Speaker 23 this is black Twitter when Shadura throws his first eight-yard slant.

Speaker 22 Everybody's a little

Speaker 22 celebrated.

Speaker 22 Dog,

Speaker 23 it is so funny.

Speaker 23 Even Prime had to comment on it.

Speaker 22 Eight-yard slant, his first completion. Yeah, perfect completion.
His first completion, people are going to be, hey, man, that's the game winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 23 Hey, dog.

Speaker 22 Hey, what y'all think the race is going to be on this game? Friday when they play.

Speaker 22 Oh, it's gonna be

Speaker 22 crazy.

Speaker 23 Yeah, rating gonna be crazy because you know everybody tuning in to see what 12 and the dude.

Speaker 22 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 22 For sure. It'll be the one.

Speaker 22 Hell, this game might do a bigger rating than the real Browns game.

Speaker 22 Why you bull? No, no, real talk.

Speaker 23 Now, yeah, you're right. You're right.
You're right.

Speaker 22 You're right. When was the last time, the last time they had a player that was this talked about, you probably got to go back to Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 23 Yeah, probably, probably Baker.

Speaker 22 And the same thing happened to Baker. Remember, you put Baker as the backup, and everybody was talking about Baker the backup.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 22 Damn. I'm trying to remember the player that was talking about.
Hey, this is how the big it is, Ocho. Joe, it's a national television thing.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 22 Cleveland in the preseason. The stage said, man, it's the ASAT time.

Speaker 22 Oh,

Speaker 22 let me add a little plot twist for yo, Joe. Cleveland,

Speaker 22 Carolina Panthers, National Television Game.

Speaker 23 That's crazy, ain't it?

Speaker 23 It's crazy the power of that last name, even though they're trying to humble it.

Speaker 22 Let that sink in.

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Speaker 22 Devontae Adams doubts Travis Hunter can play both offense and defense. He told the pivot, I don't even think it's possible to do for real, not at a high level.

Speaker 22 Now, once you get out there playing both sides, now you got to tackle Derrick Henry with that frame.

Speaker 22 Ocho, you and I have been saying this. We're not saying, but when you play, you got to play at the level.
at the number two pick.

Speaker 22 So you got to play at the number two pick at the wide receiver, the number two pick at the DB. It ain't just going out there with him on both sides of the ball.
No, it don't work like that. Right.

Speaker 22 Does it? So you tackle Derek Henry. So let that sink in for a second.
You tackle Derrick Henry. Now you got to go over there and you got to

Speaker 22 try to get over against Alexander, Marlon Humphrey, Nate Wiggins.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 22 That's what you that's what you up against. Okay, you guard Cartland Sutton.
Now you get over against Pat Sartan.

Speaker 22 Bro,

Speaker 22 bro, these grown, grown bro you're not playing they're no longer playing with study hall in mind they're not playing for books they're not playing for tuition these are grown ass men that have families

Speaker 22 kids in private school wife that want to go on vacation for 12 to 14 days i got mom i got my my wife's parents that i

Speaker 22 Bro, it's a different game. Yeah.
And so I get exactly what devontae saying devonta said i ain't saying he can't do it i'm saying can he do it at a high level right

Speaker 22 that

Speaker 22 that's all we're saying there's a reason why it used to be like that

Speaker 22 oh uh uh chuck mcnerrick was the last guy he was the middle linebacker on the center he was the last guy to play both ways

Speaker 22 there's a reason why they stopped it ocho yeah

Speaker 22 there's a reason why

Speaker 22 Hey, there's a reason why there's a reason why pitching and hitting.

Speaker 22 show he started pitching again the hitting suffered it stopped pitching hitting went back up again

Speaker 22 it's not that complicated i know being the first but there's going to be an expectation level that the the the level is here for db and for wide receiver and i'm telling you they coming ocho you know when guys get drafted high at a position they are coming yeah

Speaker 23 I think you're ready for it, though, Joe. Hey, I think you're ready for it.
You know?

Speaker 22 So

Speaker 22 you think he's going to play at all a pro bowl level on both possible? I don't know about that. No, maybe

Speaker 23 one position because he's going to be better at one. He's going to be better at one than the other.
I'm not sure which one that may be.

Speaker 23 I'm not sure. I mean, as of yet.
And I understand also with Devontae as

Speaker 23 with him not only playing at a high level, playing on both sides of the ball at a high level and making the risk of injury double you know and it's just for one if you could sustain

Speaker 22 healthy against grown men you know having to to feed their families i i think he can do it once he i want to see it because i'm i'm gonna be playing i'm gonna be i probably i think people are gonna be tuned in a lot more to jacksonville games this year than in the previous

Speaker 23 But Jacksonville, all eight games probably sold out this year, right?

Speaker 22 Yeah. Because you know, you do got you got Collins.
You got Nico Collins. Now go get him against Stingley.

Speaker 22 Hey, hey, hey,

Speaker 22 that's what you got. That's what you up against.
Okay.

Speaker 22 Now you got Ward. Now you got to go guard those guys up

Speaker 22 and end it.

Speaker 22 Those three guys, Pierce and Mitchell and Pittman Jr.

Speaker 23 Josh Downs.

Speaker 22 Yeah. That's what you got?

Speaker 22 That's what you got.

Speaker 23 It's going to be like that every week, though. Every week.
There's no, in college, you know, it's an off week.

Speaker 22 Absolutely.

Speaker 23 The level of talent and the competition you playing, boy, all 17, you finna see them boys. I think he gonna

Speaker 22 every week.

Speaker 22 I think he's gonna be better at receiver. Yes, man.

Speaker 22 I think playing that, playing it.

Speaker 22 See,

Speaker 22 I thought his skills were better at DB.

Speaker 22 I think he had just because the way he can just track the ball, his instincts, OJo, how he, how he could like, he could be like, watch it, he fooled, he'll fool the quarterback, like, I'm thinking, and then they throw it to the flat, and he just,

Speaker 22 yeah,

Speaker 22 he got tremendous instincts now. Now,

Speaker 22 right now, I think he's playing the receiver position with a lot of athleticism, right? He's electric, the really good ones, yeah. The really good ones, you got to get technically sound.

Speaker 22 You get sloppy with routes, you start rounding these routes, and you start getting lazy,

Speaker 22 man. They pick the a, they rob you.
A,

Speaker 22 you like a tourist in a foreign country they'll pick your pockets

Speaker 23 you know what the funny thing about it is when he was at colorado he can get away with it you know oh yeah

Speaker 23 you're gonna have to be more technically savvy at the nfl level because everyone is just as fast some people will be faster than you everyone is just as quick some people may be quicker than you understanding what you got across from you what you can get away with what you can and that's going to take time so i think right now when he does win whether it's offensively and defensively, it'll be based on athleticism alone.

Speaker 23 And those probably across from him. Oh, shoot, is Trav maybe be a scare or sometimes? I mean, I'm not scared, but you know what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 22 Because I think I think Cohen says he's trying to get him into like 80% of the snaps on offense.

Speaker 22 Okay.

Speaker 22 Well, you know, he was playing damn near 100% of the snaps on offense and 98% of the snaps on defense.

Speaker 22 That was in college.

Speaker 22 And I know he.

Speaker 22 But like I'm saying,

Speaker 22 that's a lot of reps. Because, you know,

Speaker 22 let's just say 130 plays in the NFL.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 22 That's a lot. That's a lot, boy.
That's a lot of plays. I mean,

Speaker 22 I think the most plays I've ever played in an actual game, I think I played like 92 snaps on offense. That's the most I played in an NFL game.

Speaker 22 That's a lot of plays.

Speaker 23 Remember how you felt the day, the day after, the morning after that game?

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 23 Imagine what Trav is going to feel like the morning after that game, both sides of the ball.

Speaker 22 Now,

Speaker 22 he 20, 20, 21, so he might not be. Now, I'll check back with him when he's 25.

Speaker 22 I'll check back with him when he's 26, 27.

Speaker 18 Right, right, right, right.

Speaker 22 Because you know, you're young, oh cho, man.

Speaker 22 Hey, you play on Sunday, I can play again on Tuesday,

Speaker 22 but as hey,

Speaker 22 man, as you started getting older, man, I ain't start feeling good until Friday.

Speaker 22 Man, they talk about bad fees.

Speaker 22 And like these guys have these Thursday games, Ocho, man, I'm glad they had it. I played one, I think I played Thanksgiving, my rookie year.
Right. While I was 22.

Speaker 22 I'm glad, man, now can you imagine? Can you imagine, Ocho, you being 33, 34 years of age? And you play Sunday, and you got to turn right around again and play Thursday? Hey, hold on, no. Okay, Ocho.

Speaker 22 Y'all play on a Sunday. Y'all probably practice probably, what, Monday? I mean, Tuesday.

Speaker 22 Nah, you go run. You're going to run and lift it.
On Monday?

Speaker 23 Yeah. Yeah, Monday, yeah.
You go in to watch film, get your lift in. Tuesday, you got Tuesday off.
Then Wednesday is back at you. After you back at it.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 22 Okay.

Speaker 22 Now, in college, you're right, Joe. You play on Saturday.
You out there to pass on Monday.

Speaker 22 They're going to work you in college, boy. I don't care what nobody says.
Oh, what?

Speaker 22 But you 18, 19. That's why I haven't worked in life.

Speaker 22 I'll be honest with you, Ocho. I don't remember.

Speaker 22 It's a long time ago, damn near 40 years, but I don't remember being sore in college.

Speaker 22 You remember being sore in college?

Speaker 23 I remember

Speaker 23 at the NFL games, I was never really sore, even though I played.

Speaker 23 reckless i wasn't obviously you know i wasn't physical but the only thing sore on me at the nfl games was my ankles yeah all that starting and stopping i'm not i'm not even trying to be funny even when i was younger i would have to turn to the side of the bed yeah and then putting my feet on the floor and warm my ankles up just just because the way i would just just start and stop until i start stop and joe i joe i can run full speed joe and stop on a dime your feet be hurting the next day though

Speaker 23 and yo that next morning oh man

Speaker 23 i'm surprised I'm surprised I'm still able to hold up this long, Joe, at 57. Like, I don't have no issues.

Speaker 22 Yeah, you're definitely blessed.

Speaker 22 You're definitely blessed. Not to have no hip, no knee.

Speaker 22 I mean, you know, seeing all those guys, you know, going back to the hall this past weekend, oh, Joe, and seeing all them guys that gotten hip replaced, and knee replaced, and shoulder replaced, and ankle replaced.

Speaker 22 Hell, I didn't even know you could replace ankles.

Speaker 22 That's why you got to take care of yourself, man.

Speaker 22 Damn. I try to.

Speaker 22 Well, ain't no taking care of yourself now. They ain't going to never give me no more problem.

Speaker 22 The doctor said, as long as you don't run, they'll last you the rest of your life. I said, you ain't got to worry about that, doc.

Speaker 22 I said, even if somebody gets after me, I ain't be able to get away from it.

Speaker 22 I ain't going to be able to get away from it, doc. You got me.

Speaker 22 But I got... I mean,

Speaker 22 you got to listen to the interview because I know there are a lot of people say, man, Devontae hate Devontae hate. No, no, no.

Speaker 23 They got to hear it. They got to hate it

Speaker 23 in its entirety to understand the concept. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 22 He's ain't saying they can't do it. I'm saying do it at a high level.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 Because, you know, like I said, I saw Time do it a couple of times. Roy Green was the person, the first person that I saw do it.
and did it at a high level.

Speaker 22 And then they said, nah, you're just too valuable at the wide receiver. We're just going to leave you over here.
Because if I'm not mistaken, I think he started off with like a DP.

Speaker 22 And,

Speaker 22 you know, we saw do it but you know um

Speaker 22 i think troy what's uh

Speaker 22 play for the pay uh uh the patriots

Speaker 22 troy brown

Speaker 22 brown you know he do but he i mean he knock a patient he wasn't yeah he was mainly in the slot the niggles yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 22 he wasn't as good a db as he was a receiver because i think he went to the pro bowl a year or two at at the uh at the wide receiver position

Speaker 22 but the expectation for trav is like he's one of the favorites to not only win defensive rookie of the year, but the offensive rookie of the year.

Speaker 22 So that just goes to show you that the level that they're expecting him to play at.

Speaker 23 Hey, hey, what happened, boy? What, Joe, what happened? What if Trav do win both awards, offensive rookie of the year and defensive rookie of the year?

Speaker 22 Everybody's gonna be shot. It'll be the greatest.
It'll be the greatest. Look, there have only been a handful of guys.

Speaker 22 Jim Brown

Speaker 22 won MVP as a rookie right uh i think uh fred lynn i think he won mvp in baseball as a rookie i think wes unsell won mvp as a rookie to win offense and defensive player of the year that'll be the that'll be the big that'll be the first he'll be the first to do that it it i would put it up there with what magic did magic led a team to the nba finals and won finals mvp i'd have to put it up there with that think about it you the best player on the offense and the best player on defense as a rookie right right

Speaker 22 Man, that's possible, though.

Speaker 22 I think it's possible. My goodness.

Speaker 22 Candice Parker did it.

Speaker 22 And Will, yeah, Will. Okay.
Will did it also. But Will averaged like 100 points.

Speaker 23 I mean, also,

Speaker 23 we talk about football now. We talk about football.

Speaker 22 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 23 It's different. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 22 I mean, there's no quilling because we don't have anything to base it to like base it on, Ocho. We've never seen anybody play.
the kind of snaps or kind of reps that he wants to play.

Speaker 18 Right.

Speaker 22 So it's hard for us to base it on the only like i said we saw i saw time i was in the league when time was doing it in dallas in 95 you know uh what you call him got hurt and he was catching catching pass and we know what he was on the defensive side of football right um i saw troy brown i think i would already i had already retired by the time troy was doing but we've never seen a player

Speaker 22 play at this i mean like i said if you go back to the 50s and 40s, 50s, and when they was doing it, that's what I'm talking about in modern football.

Speaker 22 Okay, let's go since the merger.

Speaker 22 Let's do it like that. Or the Super Bowl era, Ocho, because you know, man, we used to play both ways, bro.
But y'all had 12 players. You had no choice but to play both ways.

Speaker 22 But that being said, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 22 a high level, that's the expectation. It's like you, Ocho.
They expect Ocho to play at a high level.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 22 Okay, whoever the DB is, they're expecting him to play at a high level. Now you're the same person.

Speaker 22 They still expect that high level of play whatever side of the ball that you're on at that given time so i'm definitely gonna be watching i'm gonna be rooting for him i'm gonna get him a couple picks i'm gonna get him couple to get him a couple touchdowns it ain't often you see a guy get a pick at a touchdown now

Speaker 22 yeah he's gonna be special man i'm looking forward to that too i'm looking forward to the season man this uh this this weekend gonna be fun and from here on out so it's gonna be uh it's gonna be interesting y'all season might not be going well if y'all don't get michael parsons whoa whoa whoa whoa chill come on now come on

Speaker 23 Hey, you heard what you heard what Jerry said today, or you ain't

Speaker 22 see that one. I ain't see it.

Speaker 23 Oh, you missed it. He just, he just compared, he compared a deal when he bought the Cowboys.
All it was, it was based on a hand

Speaker 22 shake. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and eye contact.
All right, well, hey, boy, Jerry, it's 2025, man.

Speaker 22 There's a reason why we have written contracts because you know why, Ocho? That Jerry is absolutely right. A contract before we had written contracts was a meeting of the minds.

Speaker 22 I shake your head. Ocho, you will give me a 20 bushel of grain.
Okay, I'm going to give you some cattle. Or

Speaker 22 I'm going to give you something of equal value. We have a handshake.
That was a meeting of the minds. But guess what happened along the way?

Speaker 22 Somebody got what they were supposed to get and in return didn't return what they were supposed to give. Right.
So they say, you know what?

Speaker 22 We got to stop this here. So as Judge Judy says, hey, that 16, oh, this right here.

Speaker 22 If they don't hear, that's what I need to know. Because we know

Speaker 22 people to say one thing and do something else.

Speaker 22 Now, an oral contract isn't, I mean, some states,

Speaker 22 that's enforceable.

Speaker 22 But Jerry, no, that man was talking about being leadership.

Speaker 22 He's going to get him signed, man.

Speaker 22 But you know, Ocho, if a guy has an agent you're not supposed to you're not supposed to do a deal with with a player you're not even supposed to talk to the player especially concerning concerning anything having to do contract and numbers

Speaker 23 because the first thing the owner is gonna do is hey let's be buddy buddy and they're gonna try to undermine you they definitely not gonna give you what what your value is what your worth is they're not no absolutely not they trying to save money you know and and the one thing you have to understand joe and chat this is this is for y'all as well is when you are a billionaire in order to get to that point you have to be very shrewd when it comes to business.

Speaker 23 You got to step on a lot of people, Joe, along the way to get to that kind of wealth.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 23 I don't think people understand that.

Speaker 22 No, you got to be cut. You got to be ruthless.

Speaker 23 The owners are not on our, they're not on our side and never have been.

Speaker 22 Especially if you build it. Now, if somebody leave it to you, oh, Joe, your dad was worth.

Speaker 22 $15 billion and he leaves you in Chauncey. That's one thing.

Speaker 22 But for him to climb to that ladder and to get that money, oh yeah, he stepped on a lot of people, stepped on, stepped over, stepped around, all that.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 23 And you know what I wish? You know what I wish?

Speaker 22 What you wish?

Speaker 23 This is no disrespect, chat. This is, this is for y'all too, Joe.
And for people that have attained and amassed an extreme amount of wealth,

Speaker 23 there's always a way they got there.

Speaker 23 There's always a loophole that gives you one huge jump to get to a certain degree of it and to continue to build it off like you did it all the right way.

Speaker 22 I'm gonna leave it at that.

Speaker 23 I don't want to get too far into it.

Speaker 23 I don't want to get too far into it, but y'all, y'all, y'all can keep y'all can catch it.

Speaker 23 You can catch what you catch. If you can't catch it, get your hands right.

Speaker 22 All right, we got a special guest joining us.

Speaker 22 Um, he's logging in as we speak.

Speaker 23 You as a baby?

Speaker 22 One of the members of the hot boys, 400 degrees. Here he is, Louisiana on.

Speaker 22 Juvie, what it do, Juvie?

Speaker 24 Oh, man, cool. Man, I'm in the studio right now doing some shit.
Looking it up. Working on my album.
Yeah, trying to finish up.

Speaker 22 Oh, you know, you got to do something, baby. You know what? We ain't going to talk about anything else.
Go ahead and tell us about what you got coming out.

Speaker 24 Oh, my album is called A Boiling Point, bro.

Speaker 24 This is crazy it's some grown man music you know i recognize i recognize it's a uh a lane for me right now because everybody doing it you know doing their thing so i feel like it's a it's a gap right there for us and i'm trying to fill that gap

Speaker 23 oh see juby you thinking like i'm thinking you thinking like i'm thinking there's a gap there's a lane that you stand in right that nobody's in right now right so since we on the same page i really think i should be on the album i'll put pylons up so he can't get in that lane juvie that's why i put pylons up because i know where he's going listen i gotta i could i could shoot a quick 16 to you right now real quick in case you want to use me for you know

Speaker 22 i don't know

Speaker 22 i got bars right no candles 16 candles the only thing he's gonna shoot blow hey

Speaker 23 i'm from miami what you want to do what okay that's enough that's enough

Speaker 22 that's too much actually that's too much that's too much

Speaker 22 hey

Speaker 22 the cash money 30th anniversary hook some up for you let me know let me know listen i could always use another job boy do we tell you all the jobs

Speaker 22 dude 30 years

Speaker 22 yeah 30 years 30 years bro damn

Speaker 22 Does it seem that long to you?

Speaker 24 Say it again.

Speaker 22 Does it seem that long to you?

Speaker 24 No, it really seems long when somebody tells it to me. You know,

Speaker 24 you know what I'm saying? Like you, you in the NFL, when somebody brings up the NFL and stuff like that, you playing. It feels like, damn, damn, it's been that long.
Damn.

Speaker 24 I try not to harp on it, but when people say it, I look back, I'd be like, damn, I can't believe this shit.

Speaker 22 30 years.

Speaker 24 I'm like James Brown right now.

Speaker 22 Joe, we don't know if this is true, but what's being reported is that Turk left.

Speaker 24 He exited early um with tensions with bg is there anything you can shed light on is that true or the tour is over or what's going on well for my it came from the higher up so i really don't know what what the paperwork said they sent him uh some paperwork i heard so i don't really know what the reason was so it gotta kind of like let us know but they they got us in the blind on what really happened I don't know if that was their reaction because of what was, you know, what he was saying on the internet or something like that.

Speaker 24 Right, Juvie.

Speaker 24 But I truthfully don't know what the real, you know, what the real reason was.

Speaker 24 He said it was money. He said it was money, right? So maybe it was that.

Speaker 24 I really don't know, bro. You know, niggas ain't taking no short bag.
Once you commit to having a bag a certain way, you know,

Speaker 22 you don't expect them to come back and change the deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 I really don't know, bro, because I ain't see his paperwork, but I really don't. Man, my connection.

Speaker 22 Go ahead, Joe.

Speaker 22 Oh man, hey, Juvie, man, check this out.

Speaker 24 Back in 98,

Speaker 22 98 hot boys came to Little Rock, Arkansas, man. Barton Colisin, that was my first concert ever, bro.
Y'all came and told that thing down. You hear me?

Speaker 24 Little Rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 22 Y'all ain't get to finish though, because them boys won't stop.

Speaker 24 Hey, man,

Speaker 24 every

Speaker 24 time we was going there, man, to Little Rock, man,

Speaker 24 it was like that. It kind of like Oakland.
That's like a third world country, bro.

Speaker 24 Ride up these highways.

Speaker 22 Did you get there? It's like, damn, bro.

Speaker 24 And they different out there, dog. They thugging.

Speaker 22 They thugging. Hey, can y'all just let us one time finish the concert? Let us get out.
We try to give y'all y'all two hours, but damn. Telly.
Man.

Speaker 24 Man, we was banned from Oakland like that for like 10 years, man. He wouldn't let us get down to Oakland because of that.

Speaker 22 Damn. Yep.

Speaker 23 Hey, hey, Jew, when it comes to making an album, right? You know, I think

Speaker 23 as fans of hip-hop in general, we don't know the ins and outs and how things work, but I think it's just interesting.

Speaker 23 I'm sure the chat will probably know, how long does it actually take to finish an album?

Speaker 23 You know, we're used to just getting the finished product, but we don't know much about what goes into production and studio time and all that other good stuff.

Speaker 23 How long does it normally take an album?

Speaker 24 Man, everybody has their own different,

Speaker 24 you know, way of doing things. Like, for me, for me, my time, you know, it's when I got some free time.
So, with me, man, I can knock out three or four songs in a night.

Speaker 24 So, because I'm engineering, I'm doing everything by myself. I really don't have nobody in the studio.
And then I got full access to studio time all the time. So, I'm not paying for it.

Speaker 24 So, for me, man, it's however long I want it to be, but I can get an album done right. Like I would say, if I'm focused, like in a month's time, something like that.

Speaker 22 Hey, let me

Speaker 24 in order to be a rapper do you have to be a night owl do anybody do anybody work normal business hours or does everybody up on some yeah i'm all day with it i don't have like i really don't have a uh a time whenever i feel it i'm going but a lot of them cats don't go in the studio like wayne man wayne being uh going in at three o'clock in the morning i'm like

Speaker 24 how you do that but you know i guess it's them going to the clubs leaving out of the clubs going going straight to the studio, having that, just keep that vibe that you had.

Speaker 24 Because a lot of us get our ideas while we out and about.

Speaker 22 Hey, look, when you're in the studio, what kind of vibe you got in there? You like to be dolo or you kind of, you know, you have some people in there just vibing.

Speaker 24 This is it right here. Look, look, look, look.
I'm giving you a 360.

Speaker 22 Damn,

Speaker 22 you ain't got nothing on it now.

Speaker 24 Well, I used to hang with DigitDesign when they first started Pro Tools in Nashville and stuff like that. So, I've been touching this stuff since the beginning.

Speaker 22 So, yeah,

Speaker 23 you know how to work everything in there.

Speaker 24 I know how to work everything, put the studio together, wiring. I understand all of it, bro.
You got to remember, I make lamps, I'm the electronic guy, so I make all kinds of property.

Speaker 24 I can build all kinds of stuff. So, wires, you know, wires and stuff like that.
That's my thing.

Speaker 22 Okay. Well, maybe you can help Joe.
I tell Joe his

Speaker 22 father, man.

Speaker 22 You can wire that hard time again, Jules. It's okay.
Hey, the devil working baby we fight we fighting over here

Speaker 22 i see you was blitzing bro you all right though yeah what kind of service you got uh i think we got uh

Speaker 22 come on come on now come on chill

Speaker 22 oh it ain't that funny bro

Speaker 22 come on now

Speaker 22 you let me juvie when you made back that ass up did you have any idea that you was going to be making a song that will stand the test of time. When that song comes on

Speaker 24 they're hitting the floor still to this day i was just trying to get the women to shake some ass broken you know i was trying i'm gonna keep it real bro i figure i figured if i said something to make the women shake their ass i would get them because i came from that right i was making that kind of music from the start so it was kind of like back that ass up was easy for me to make the other songs was kind of hard for me to make but songs like that booty shaking records that's that's simple for me

Speaker 24 i'm in there right now making a booty shaking record

Speaker 22 when that beat drop

Speaker 24 yeah all day all day man man and fresh a bad motherfucker

Speaker 24 you're a bad motherfucker bro bad

Speaker 24 you different bro

Speaker 24 and uh when he make when man and fresh make a beat it's it's more like you're competing with him because he trying to beat you out like he not trying to just make a beat to to compliment you he like look you better do your fucking thing because I'm about to shine on this and don't let him have a verse.

Speaker 24 Watch how many breaks he's gonna have on this verse.

Speaker 22 That's gonna beat down. You hear him on back that ass up, yeah.
Soon as he comes in,

Speaker 22 I see, damn, you got everything, everything playing on your part.

Speaker 22 Hey, listen, so when you hear the beat, you kind of go into whatever thought process you have, or do you have or do you already go in with a preconceived or what you want to talk about?

Speaker 24 I listen to the beat, the beat. I follow follow the music, man.
The music most of the time give me ideas and directions to go. Yeah, you feel me?

Speaker 24 And with the fact that I don't write, I just sit here and just think of my thoughts and put them down.

Speaker 24 So

Speaker 24 I got to be one of them cats. That's why I got to be hands-on.
That's why I don't like engineers because engineers don't really understand when I want them to hit record and when I want them to stop.

Speaker 24 They don't understand your instincts. That's why I tell all the artists, all the young cats, man, learn how to record yourself.

Speaker 24 You're going to hear, you're going to make your best songs when you learn how to record yourself.

Speaker 22 Damn.

Speaker 23 That's dope. That's live.

Speaker 22 Let me ask you a question. What made you decide to get back in the studio?

Speaker 22 Is it like, man, I ain't really happy with Buffs being out there today? It's just my time to get back in the studio. What made you decide to go back into the studio?

Speaker 24 Man, that tiny that's performer sparked my fire, bro. Okay.

Speaker 24 You know, just letting people, when people, when people realize that, nah, this nigga really can rap these songs, fuck the music, this nigga can sing this shit. That shit sparked my fire.

Speaker 24 You know what I'm saying? That shit like got me back on the road, got me back, got me back going.

Speaker 24 You always, it's always something, it's always that little something that gets, gets you going. You know what I'm saying? And that shit, you like, you know what? Fucking, I'm about to run.
Fuck that.

Speaker 24 I'm about to take this shit. and I'm running.
And that's what that was for me.

Speaker 24 And I don't deny it. You know, I always tell people like, man, shit, everybody needs something.

Speaker 24 You know, everybody needs something. Everybody needs somewhere to start.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 24 You, for instance, bro, your fucking interview with Cat Williams, you took that shit and, you know what I'm saying? Yep.

Speaker 24 And that's what that, that's the same, it had the same effect that tiny desk did for me, because not only that, a lot of artists had to go after me.

Speaker 24 And now that standard is up there, now they got to like top me. Not saying that motherfuckers ain't can't outperform me and shit, but it's a standard now.

Speaker 24 And everybody who go on tiny desk now, they know like, man, we got to fuck that. I got to outdo that.

Speaker 22 But you know what, Juvie? Going on the tiny desk,

Speaker 22 you have to perform a different way that you normally would and people got to see you in a different light they're like okay he really i mean yeah

Speaker 22 it i mean it wasn't the uh uh the the beat wasn't overpowering the music wasn't so loud it's distorted you could hear you could hear every single thing that you're saying it's like oh that's what he was saying i've been saying it wrong all the year for 25 years i've been saying it wrong I had a cheat code though, bro.

Speaker 24 You know, I had John Baptiste and Trumbo on Shorty with Manny Fresh and a 40 degrees band so i i kind of had a cheat cold i bought all all the guns

Speaker 24 i brought everybody with me like that i'm gonna make this something big if i can't yeah you know

Speaker 22 well you definitely turned it out that was that was that was a hell of a uh performance thank you dog thank you yeah

Speaker 24 being from louisiana you know a thing or two about food see how you said it you said it like us Because we say Louisiana, Louisiana.

Speaker 24 We done lost so fucking much, man. Fuck, we need some wins, nigga.

Speaker 22 Yeah, anybody tried to do the Louisiana?

Speaker 22 Louisiana.

Speaker 24 Louisiana, nigga.

Speaker 22 Outside of your home state, where you've had some of the best cooking at?

Speaker 24 Man, you know, I lived in Atlanta for like, for like seven years. So I had some good cooking in Atlanta, bro.

Speaker 24 I would say Miami, I had some Cuban food that was fucking off the chain.

Speaker 24 Man, it varies, bro.

Speaker 24 I would definitely give, I definitely give Atlanta their props, man, because they cover a lot of ground with food.

Speaker 22 Yeah,

Speaker 22 if they stop charging you $700, $700. Now you're going to pay for it.
You're going to pay for it.

Speaker 22 You're going to pay for it.

Speaker 22 And make you wait. There's two people in there.
Oh, we got an hour wait time. It ain't but two people in here.
But you mean I got to wait an hour?

Speaker 24 But you know the truth, man. I'm from the cooking capital.
Us New Orleans boys, we don't really like.

Speaker 24 To eat too much food out of New Orleans. We like our shit.

Speaker 22 Man, y'all be putting too much hot sauce in y'all food, though.

Speaker 22 Man, y'all be Juvie. Probably

Speaker 22 the wrong people, man.

Speaker 22 No, it's not good. I can't taste nothing.

Speaker 24 You eating that fucking restaurant shit, man. I'm not shitting on the restaurants in the city, but it's some old ladies and shit like that.

Speaker 24 Some family members down here that's going to give you that real.

Speaker 22 You got to get that real, bro.

Speaker 23 Matter of fact, hey, hey, speaking of real, Juvie, I got something for you.

Speaker 23 I know you like food. You like restaurants.

Speaker 23 Obviously, louisiana being one of the capitals when it comes to cooking and restaurants i think chicago is up there as well obviously new york but if next time you come to miami i need you to try two places for me i need you to try two places for me there's a place called i crave my young bull own i crave really good food breakfast lunch i'm not sure if they do have dinner but if you if they don't have dinner then you got to try another restaurant called Smith and Webster.

Speaker 23 One of my young bulls owns Smith and Webster.

Speaker 24 Man, superb, superb i you need to add that to you you know what i like in miami they got this little breakfast spot man everybody go to it's a it's like a it's a small little spot it's like a little family spot it closed at two o'clock i don't even remember the name of it but they got fish and grits that mlk

Speaker 24 or jackson's i think that's the mlk i think that's it i'll be the name up man hold on

Speaker 22 chain fish and grits

Speaker 23 huh it's in the hood it's in the hood yeah that's probably that's probably MLK.

Speaker 24 Yeah, it's in the hood. Everybody, fuck.
They know me.

Speaker 22 I'm in that bitch so much. Ocho, Ocho, what's this? Soul food?

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, soul food.

Speaker 23 Like, I think it's right off, right off 22nd

Speaker 23 by Drew,

Speaker 23 Drew Middle School.

Speaker 22 Drew, y'all eating, you eating Nutria down there? You eat that little rotor? Fuck no.

Speaker 24 I don't eat that weird shit, bro. I don't fuck with none of that weird shit, bro.

Speaker 22 Hey, y'all be eating gator.

Speaker 22 Y'all be eating everything.

Speaker 24 i don't eat no gator none of that bro i can't eat no gator

Speaker 24 i'll go out there with my people and try to catch one of them but i ain't eating that nah not me i don't do none of the strange

Speaker 22 because you know hey you know y'all be y'all be y'all be whipping it up to my oh this good y'all don't add it some of everything nah man my family cook all that man chitlins everything i just i don't eat it bro i never ate it I can't do it.

Speaker 24 I'm out of the house once they start cooking. I'm gone.

Speaker 22 Yeah, see,

Speaker 22 and the size, you know, they cook that pot look. They put everything in the pot.
You look it don't kill you.

Speaker 24 You got to get some stuffed bell peppers, man.

Speaker 22 Man, I'm here.

Speaker 22 I'm surprised. The first time I ever had Gator was in New Orleans, man.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 22 But you got to cook it, and it got to be hot because it's gamey. And you can't eat it cold.
I'm talking about, you got to get it right out the grease.

Speaker 24 I can't eat that shit, bro. I go to thinking about this motherfucker crawling through the swamp and shit.

Speaker 24 I can't fucking. with that.

Speaker 22 Hey, catch up. You depleted.

Speaker 22 They put catch up all over everything.

Speaker 24 I can't do that either. I ain't no catch-up in it either.

Speaker 22 So, Juvie, when the album is, do you have any idea when the album is going to drop?

Speaker 24 We're looking at September, man, but that date can easily be moved because I'm so meticulous on how I want this album to sound. And I just feel like I need to do like one or two more songs right now.

Speaker 24 And that's what I'm in doing right now.

Speaker 22 The tour.

Speaker 22 The tour. Hold on.

Speaker 24 on oh the tour is still going on yeah the tour's still going on i think they moved some of the dates back though but i know i'm about to go on a promo run so they got to figure this they got to figure the logistics out of that but okay all right go ahead i'm a show guy me i'm a show i'm one of them guys that uh

Speaker 24 i my calendar stay full man you know i've been blessed to always be able to uh do a lot you know get booked man i do a lot of shows bro so i never been short in that department at all i got you so shoot while you finishing up that studio, I mean, while you finished up that album, just let me know how I can sing you that verse.

Speaker 22 You know, that verse,

Speaker 22 you can use it.

Speaker 23 You don't have to use it, but if you want to put it in there,

Speaker 23 it just gives you something to work with.

Speaker 24 You got to do some loose skywalker shit, man. You got to get some booty shakers, bro.
You got to write.

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 Yeah, your verse can't be, you can't be spitting bars, bro.

Speaker 22 You got to be the ladies, bro.

Speaker 23 I got you. I got you.

Speaker 22 I get you.

Speaker 24 The ladies don't understand bars. Well, they do, but they don't.
Some of the majority of the women in it, they don't want to hear that.

Speaker 24 They want to get their dance on.

Speaker 23 Okay, we can do that too. We can do that.

Speaker 23 I used to be the DJ in the man on the mic at back in the day at King of Diamonds.

Speaker 22 That was me.

Speaker 22 You putting something on that one, nigga.

Speaker 24 I've been in there a few times. I ain't never seen you back there.

Speaker 23 That was me. That was me on the mic.
That was me. I was there when you came.

Speaker 24 Yeah, nigga. I ain't seen that.

Speaker 22 Was it Chad or O2? Which one was it? I was Chad back then. I was Chad.
Hey, listen. You got to think.

Speaker 23 I had even when I had like 27 jobs back then.

Speaker 24 Damn, my nigga.

Speaker 22 Damn. Hey, Juvie.

Speaker 24 I missed it. I missed it, nigga.
I missed it.

Speaker 22 Hey, hey, Juvie, you got any features on this new album coming up, bro?

Speaker 24 Yeah, I got features, man.

Speaker 22 I got some features on here.

Speaker 24 Some cats supposed to be featured on here. They ain't showed up for me.
Can you give us one?

Speaker 22 Just give us one feature. Who you got on there? That's going to be talking about something.

Speaker 24 Cash money. All right.

Speaker 22 Say list.

Speaker 22 Everybody.

Speaker 22 I know.

Speaker 22 We've got baby got to be on that thing.

Speaker 24 Yeah. Cash money.

Speaker 22 We're baby. Hey, Juvie.
Hey, congratulations on everything. Outstanding career.

Speaker 22 Good luck on the tour. Man, we can't wait for this album to drop in September.
Come, hey,

Speaker 22 the day before, a couple of days before, come back and tell us.

Speaker 24 Come back and talk to us. I got y'all.
And I'm going to let y'all hear something, man. You got to check out some of this music, bro, before it come out.

Speaker 22 For for sure

Speaker 22 appreciate that all right bro

Speaker 22 yes

Speaker 22 oh

Speaker 22 i can't wait i can't wait to see my version

Speaker 23 hey uh i'm gonna be famous boy i'm telling you what's up famous can't rap who

Speaker 22 you

Speaker 23 No, I can rap. I just can't go off the top of the head.
I'm not Lil Wayne. I'm not Jay-Z.
But once I write things down and I visualize it, and then I can execute it off paper, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 22 You're saying they send you a beat, you're gonna go off.

Speaker 23 Yeah, all I got to do, give me 10 minutes, Joe. You know that notepad, oh, the notepad I got filled up with all your quotes to pass.

Speaker 23 You give me 10 minutes, give me a beat, let me think of situations and variations that I've been through in life. I can put it down on paper.

Speaker 23 And man, it's listen when it's done right, the artistry of my pen is magnificent. You hear me? Like, Joe, I really do that, Joe.

Speaker 22 All right.

Speaker 22 joe he can't he write and curse it

Speaker 22 hey y'all don't understand

Speaker 23 hey joe you don't understand joe i was i was a drama and theater major joe like i can go oh you got some drama huh

Speaker 22 drama theater major now you just told us you know what the four juicos

Speaker 23 and you're gonna talk about you a drama and theater major right see that was the easiest classes for me to get credit to be able to play football that's why i was you know you understand what you see where i'm going with that?

Speaker 22 No, drama and theater ain't easy. So, what you Shakespearean?

Speaker 23 Wait, hold on. For me, drama and theater is very easy.
I can get into character quick. Right now, I can recite.
I can recite Shakespeare.

Speaker 23 I know

Speaker 22 we watch it. Well, we're looking at it.
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 22 We know.

Speaker 22 What's wrong with this dude?

Speaker 22 Hey, Joe, give us some Shakespeare. Give us, you know, your best thespian.

Speaker 23 Right now?

Speaker 22 Yeah. So So you do poetry and all that?

Speaker 22 What? Joe, I do spoken word at the Hard Rock down here

Speaker 23 on Tuesday nights at the Hard Rock Casino.

Speaker 22 Yeah, go ahead. All right, friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ear.
Go ahead, give us something.

Speaker 22 Four score and 20 years ago, you know, do us, give us something like that. Give us Gettysburg address.
Give us.

Speaker 23 You ready?

Speaker 22 Take your time.

Speaker 22 Come on, don't do that.

Speaker 23 Let me focus. Let me focus.
Okay,

Speaker 22 get focused on your get focused. Hey, listen.

Speaker 23 Hey, Joe, I was a drama major. I was a theater major.
Watch how I watch how I take your time.

Speaker 22 Take your time.

Speaker 23 Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind. Therefore, a winged Cupid painted blind.

Speaker 22 Thank you.

Speaker 22 Hey, boy, you hello, Will, boy. You something better.

Speaker 22 Hey, nah. Hey, hey, nah.

Speaker 22 When they say you special, bro, hey, you're a special dude, bro. Something wrong with you.
Hey, listen, man. Listen.
Hey, listen.

Speaker 23 When I was in high school, I was in a little cubicles in the back, man. But it's all good.

Speaker 22 Way in the back.

Speaker 22 Little classroom, little cubicle.

Speaker 23 Yeah,

Speaker 23 I know my baby saw that. I know you're watching.

Speaker 23 That was for you.

Speaker 23 I wrote that. I wrote that.

Speaker 23 That came from here.

Speaker 22 So you say you had the hard rock on Tuesday night?

Speaker 23 Yeah, I do. Yeah.

Speaker 22 Oh, Joe, I do spoken word.

Speaker 22 Yeah,

Speaker 23 You want me to give you another?

Speaker 22 I can give you another one right now off the top of the head. You want one? You want one? Go ahead.
Give us one more. Why not? Why not? Go ahead.
Yeah, do one more. One more.
One more.

Speaker 23 Okay, snap with me. Snap with me then.

Speaker 22 Come on, snap with me, Joe. Come on.

Speaker 23 Many nights, rain falls.

Speaker 23 An umbrella calls.

Speaker 24 Dog walks, cat screams.

Speaker 23 Nails across a chalkboard.

Speaker 23 oven, stove, refrigerator, silver,

Speaker 23 Wentworth.

Speaker 23 Not many days

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Speaker 23 Today's Wednesday, they call it hump.

Speaker 23 Why would it be a day? Why couldn't it be night?

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Speaker 22 That boy's right. Hey, hey.

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Speaker 22 That was a good one. That was a good one, Ocho.

Speaker 22 I appreciate that.

Speaker 23 I'm glad y'all appreciate my work.

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