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Yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely.

Brother Cam Newton, Brother Cam Newton, you left a very long soliloquy, a dissertation, if you'd say,

on Instagram on your show on fourth and one.

You know,

it was taking a shot at me complaining about the Madden ratings and you wanting to play me at madden so obviously

i took somewhat kind of offense to it but i'm a challenger i'm a competitor and you had all these

you had all these big words and these nouns and verbs and you was rhyming and having nice bars to it and talking real spicy like you really like that talk about they call you thumbs

And, you know, you had a chance.

They just revealed the new Madden 26 and you was playing the game against somebody.

And lo and behold, all this trash talking, you coming at the king talking about how good you are and what you're going to do to me.

And you got trash.

Chat, can y'all see that chat?

You got trash.

Who beat him?

Man, 35 to 6, 35 to 8.

Who beat him, Ojo?

Who is that he playing against?

I'm not even sure.

It don't even matter, huh?

It don't even matter.

Listen, the fact that you talking trash to me.

Someone that is a known gamer.

He said, oh, I don't know you to play.

I know you to play FIFA.

I don't know you to play Madden.

Well, Well, obviously from the looks at it, you don't know how to play Madden either.

Damn, Cam.

Hey, hey, Cam.

And hey, let me tell you how bold he was and how confident he was, you know,

in a sense of arrogance almost.

Talk about the winner of the Madden game.

We can swap shows.

Like if I beat him, I can go, he can go on fourth and one.

And if he beat me, he come on night camp.

I'm like, man, listen here, partner.

This ain't what you do.

You talk like you him, but you're not him.

Dog, don't ever challenge me at anything regarding video games.

You play video games for recreational purposes.

I play video games as a way of life to pay my bills and take care of child support.

We are not.

All right.

He puts something on Cam,

huh?

I said, that man puts something on Cam.

Hey, man, listen, listen, Toy Manu, you know what?

Hey,

Cam, man, tell him, man, listen, don't you shoot at the king, you bet not miss, boy.

And just from the, from, from looking at that, that's embarrassing.

Like, why would I,

tell me, why would I waste my time, huh?

Why would I waste my time?

Chat, what y'all think?

Chat, make sure y'all, y'all tell Cam, man, don't play at me like that no more, man.

Don't play at me like that, man.

Listen, not only am I a true gamer, I'm a gaming enthusiast.

I've been playing Madden since 1988, Sega Genesis, John Madden on the cover.

Like they play for fun, man.

They play for game.

They play for shits and giggles.

Man, it's life and death over here with me, man, when it comes to Madden, man.

Yeah, Cam got that look on his face like, man, what the hell happened?

Yeah, what I got myself into and got the nerve to be, you know, coming at me, man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He was slick with it, though, Ocho.

He was slick with you.

Yeah, putting his words together real good.

You should have.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They was eloquent.

They were well burst, yeah, yeah, night.

All them are nouns and pro pronouns, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he had them messed together.

Listen, hey, Cam, want you to do me a favor, open the Bible,

open the Bible.

Hey, hold up, hey, what's up, Joe?

Hey, chat, y'all do me a favor, chat.

Y'all tell Cam to open the Bible and go to Leviticus,

chapter eight, verse five.

thou shalt not tryeth voteth

don't play at me cam yo that's what i do right yeah yeah yeah that man put something on hey hey um 35 you did you hey um i should have i should have sent ash i forgot to send you a screenshot of my game you know i won my game huh i won my game you know i did what i had to do i gave i gave young bull a small sample size of what i can do you know i didn't want to show too much

you know man i'm a developer developer, I'm a developer in the game.

I don't just play, I'm a developer.

They come to me for insight, you know

and stop playing with me, man.

Yeah, you, yeah, I don't know who the old boy is, but he put something on Cam.

Yeah, man, listen, man.

Hey, matter of fact, I tweeted today.

I can't

tweet all day.

Cam might cam might have to take two weeks off after this one.

Oh, no.

Well, listen, whenever he resurfaced, we're gonna let him know.

We ain't gonna forget this one.

Oh, yeah, oh boy, yo, you hear me?

Oh, boy, put foots in it

he put foots in it with this with this score here i did not anticipate this with three minutes left in the ball game 35 to 8.

i don't know what made him go for two

i mean what i mean he's what i mean

What was it, 27 and a half?

I mean, I'm confused.

Maybe that's a thing.

Is that a thing, Ocho?

I mean, you go for two.

I mean,

I don't know, Ojo.

Help me out, Ocho.

Help me out.

The game was over.

That's what I'm saying.

Why you go for two?

Listen, I think you went for two trying to make the score look like

35-7, 35-8.

It's the same.

Yeah, yeah.

Unless the over-under was 27 and a half.

That's the only way it's.

Babe, please.

Oh, man.

The fact that he had a five-minute video talking about how good he was.

That's the only reason I'm really answering back, you know, because you firing at me like you, him.

Like, you, I'm like, okay.

But I started to believe it.

He was so good.

Because he said he was like ranked.

Like, I ranked, rank what?

Ranked last.

That's the only rank.

That's the only rank you're going to be

based off that.

Boy, that boy.

Hey.

oh my goodness.

Oh, my goodness, but he doing all that talking.

Chat, chat, y'all, y'all saw the video he made?

Five minutes long.

Five minutes long.

I'm like, what are we talking about?

And like, I was starting to believe it.

I'm like, well, maybe he is that good.

Well, maybe he does know how to play.

And long below.

Yeah, listen.

Hey, when them lights on.

When them lights on, you know, you can't have.

Cam got gone.

Yeah, you can't hide when them lights on.

Everybody watching the pressure on, can you still perform after talking that trash?

See, that's what I'm used to doing.

I'm used to talking trash.

You talk Cam about his game and then going out there and backing it up.

That ain't what Cam do.

He ain't me.

You can't be me.

You can't.

There's nothing you can beat me in.

Nothing.

Respect to me.

Cam, you got 24 hours to respond.

Nah, he done did enough talking.

He done did enough talking.

That's the problem.

He doing too.

No more talking.

Yeah,

he doing too much talking and no stick work.

Too much talking and no stick work.

But I ain't gonna lie, Ocho.

I thought, but the way he was talking, I said, man, damn, I was scared.

I know, Ocho.

Please don't charge this man.

Listen, I'm going to tell you what my grandma used to told me.

The loudest one in the room is the weakest one in the room.

That's what my grandma told me.

And then you got some, like, I'm, I don't really,

that analogy doesn't work with me because I'm the loud one, but I really mean what I say, and I back up everything I say from A to Z.

You understand what I'm talking about?

I wouldn't put on no performance like that because that's embarrassing because that's my last name.

Yeah,

I don't know.

Joe must be in a halfway house or something.

Wi-Fi.

Can y'all hear me?

I guess he's talking to me.

Can y'all hear me?

So, Joe, yeah, man.

Hey,

my bad, man.

We have some technical difficulties over here.

I'm getting it right, right man y'all know i normally be on here locked like the quiet storm man i'll be ready

right right

is the weather bad because normally uh the last couple of days the weather been really it's been raining really hard in atlanta so i'm is the weather bad

no i don't think the weather bad right now man i don't we we getting it right over here we getting it right where you at it'll be mad tonight

I'm in the career.

What happened?

I keep waking up.

I've been used to my you don't think the weather bad.

Hell, just look out the window

unless you're in a bunker

it ain't right it ain't raining or nothing like that you know what i mean

man what's going on

man we could we good glad glad you did glad you could join us as we i just had to talk about cam newton man cam newton eaten made a whole video talking trash right you saw it i see it man trying your gangster bro

He tried my gangster, Joe.

He just played, he just played somebody two days ago, right?

You know, they had a Madden release and everybody had a chance to play somebody, another gamer.

No, I won my game.

Yeah.

Man, Joe, ask me what the score was when he played, when he played.

What?

Cam play somebody?

He played somebody.

Ask me what the score was.

What was the score, OJo?

And the score was 35-8, man.

He lost, man.

A whole lot to a few.

Oh.

35-8.

Hey, you see,

don't let your guard down, OJoJ, because the man lost.

I ain't gonna miss it.

I ain't missing it.

Hey, Joe, it's it's it's at a point right now joe it's like me travel challenging you to a game of basketball and you know you're gonna whoop me that's how you cam now after seeing that man uh oh choose no you got he after you get beat that bad oh joe he got to build back up he just can't challenge you he got to build back up he got to be the hundred he got to be the hundred gamers consecutive before he can challenge oh joe again you know what he got to do he has to work his way he got to play micah parsons he got to play daz bryant he got to play uh who else is good derwin james he got to pay tank dale Dale.

Before you come at the King, you got to play, you know, those that are underneath me.

You know, when it comes to this game and stuff, Joe, just you don't just get on the game and say, hey, Ojoe, play me.

You got to earn this, man.

After you don't got beat like that, yeah, he can't play you, Ocho.

Especially after that long video.

It was a nice video.

He was putting his words together.

Nice, Joe.

He sounded like a rapper.

He sounded like a bad person.

He ain't giving them no game.

You ain't going to play him.

You're not going to play.

Child, please.

Hey, listen, I'm playing.

I playing, but it has to be an instruction environment.

I want the lights real bright.

I want the world to watch because that lets me know based off what I just saw, that means he folds under pressure.

Oh, you want the stage set.

You want the stage set.

Yeah, because I like it.

I like Joe.

I like him when the lights are bright.

That's why I wear shades.

Okay.

I like him when the light's bright.

Yeah.

All right.

I want to see this, man.

I want to see this.

I want to see y'all boys get down, man.

That way we can cut up all the riff rap, all that talking, jibber-jabber, bumping your gun.

We can see who got that thumb work.

Who can do something?

You know, who got that thumb work, Joe?

I won my game, Joe.

I won my game.

Like, it's on YouTube right now.

You can go back and look at my thumb work and you look at Cam and his presentation the way he was talking, and then you look at the end result.

It don't matter.

Oh, Joe, Cam must have been playing with

index fingers.

He won't be playing like he had a typewriter.

Hey, Cam say say he do this now.

Nah, she's shit.

Yeah, he could do it.

I couldn't tell.

Hey, he loses.

That's what he knew.

He knew.

But okay, we can go with him.

That's enough.

That's enough.

Nah, Neil say he coming back, Ocho.

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Shadur Sanders will start Cleveland's Friday preseason opener.

Kevin Stafansky confirmed this today and added that Tyler Snoop Huntley will be the only other quarterback to play in the game with Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, and Dylan Gabriel slated to raise.

Won't he do it?

Won't he do it, Ark?

Hey, look, look, the opportunity has presented itself.

It's kind of like divine order, if y'all ask me, Ark and Ocho.

You know what I mean?

It's like God working mysterious ways, man.

I know we don't want nobody to get hurt, but to see them two dudes have, you know, somewhat hamstring injuries and Flacco, obviously, probably who's not gonna play.

Man, I'm looking forward to him just coming out, you know, relaxing and uh just having fun, bro.

I think it's gonna be a good time for the young fella.

My mind, you know, my mindset is

Kenny Pickett and uh Dylan Gabriel about to get some permanent rigs.

I'm gonna play so good, they're gonna be gone.

When the week

it's gonna be gone, it's gonna go, it's old for them,

it's old for them.

Yeah, just go, hey, just enjoy the moment, you don't have to do anything man that's it just just be you titus stop

hey but look

can y'all imagine like the jitters or or or the butterflies that he may have like he's actually about to get ready to live out of uh the american dream you know which is making it to the nfl that's probably one of his main goals and to be able to you know start in his first preseason game man i remember when i was a rookie ocho listen boy i took the preseason like it was the playoffs like you know, as because as a young fella, you know, you gotta prove yourself, you know, you gotta

prove yourself.

So, the only thing you know is going out there playing hard and showing that you belong.

What's up,

wait, yeah, it's a party over there, huh?

What's up, Titan, man?

Phantom's done, got a haircut.

Where yes,

he's right here.

Oh, I thought that was Teddy.

what

i'm just oh they oh you gonna

oh

get him get him thanos

titus

you need to hush bro you would like you got some killers over there boy

I agree with you, Joe.

And I was talking to telling Ojo this.

I said, look, look how this thing works.

Yeah.

Hamstring.

Fourth string and going to start.

Yeah.

I told you, listen, I told you.

Fourth string.

He's fourth on the depth chart.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Because what I've been, I mean, I read and it says, man, Shador is outplaying Dylan Gabriel.

And then some people keep saying, well,

he ain't.

I don't really know.

I mean, I wish I could be there to actually see it for myself.

But I've read more articles in which

it says, it reads that Shadur is out playing Dylan Gabriel.

I agree.

I've been, I've been seeing some of that.

I've been seeing a lot of it too.

Listen,

you know, my eyes and the ears, my eyes and the ears, they're in Miami.

What do you mean?

But

when I want to know about what's going on and how he got eyes in Miami, he got ears in Cleveland.

Okay.

Okay.

You hear me?

So I just ask, I go straight to the source.

I go to the source that's actually on the field.

I go to the source that's not a media person, that's not an analyst that can give it to me straight.

Boy, what are them boys out there looking like, man?

Okay, boom.

That last time I said a name.

This time I'm not saying no names, which is why I'm so confident.

And when we talk about Shador and the Cleveland Browns, that's all.

Because I also mean no disrespect.

I told you we're going to get his opportunity.

I didn't know it would come this fast and in this way.

I've said it.

I said it before.

Okay, Joe Flacco is going to be the starter.

And I say, if things aren't going well for Joe Flacco, because he plays well in Spurs, he'll get on a four or five game stretch and things somewhat fall apart or come off the hinges.

And then she get his opportunities.

Now he gets your opportunity early.

You see how I got it work?

Remember the Wally Pip story?

You know about the Wally Pip story, don't you?

Hey, Chad, Chad, if you don't know about the Wally Pip story, look at the Wally Pip story.

You know, I don't want nobody injured, but I just want the opportunities given to players that are drafted to a team to be fair and everybody giving

well see how

wally pip wasn't injured he just had a headache that day

it never got it never got a job it never got his jaw back but you you look we'll find out we'll we'll see everybody like i said it's only three preseason games so

i mean

The mere fact that he's playing, because normally when guys, they're not expecting guys to make a tick.

Oh, Joe, they don't let normally let them guys play because you know why?

Because I don't want you to get hurt and I got to keep you.

Hey, but listen, uh, he's prepared for this, huh?

Joe, he's prepared, he's prepared for this moment.

If there's anything in all you've been through, the doubters, the naysayers, the haters, your enemies right there in your own backyard that drafted you.

If what the owner said last week is not motivation to go out there and cut a plum fool

in an organized way,

in an organized way, in a structured environment, it's still the game of football.

Show that you can be a leader.

Calm, quiet, collected, and reserved.

Martha,

watch what happened.

Guarantee he marched the ass right down and got

that first drive Friday.

First drive, I guarantee you, that's how it play out.

Marching right down the field.

Listen, if you don't play well, I'm gonna hold him accountable.

If you don't play well, I'm gonna hold him accountable.

Just like we supposed to hold everybody accountable.

I mean,

you see how they fix it up, no Joe?

Huh?

Oh, they talk about, oh, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, and Dylan Gabriel are slated to rest.

Nah, they hurt.

Two of the three hurt.

Ain't no resting.

They ain't got enough credentials.

They ain't got enough time under their belt to get rest in a preseason game.

They ain't done enough.

Only one got time to rest is Joe flacco yeah exactly he got 18 okay

i get that but them other two

they fighting for jobs now yeah i'm excited i'm excited you know who played tomorrow

who played tomorrow the bangles huh that's who who they play who they play on you

they play the eagles but we play the eagles you know okay we play the eagles You know,

we're going to put belt to ass.

That's what it's like.

First of all, y'all don't play in the preseason.

And what we need

hey we can't we listen we're not pulling that we're not pulling that this year y'all pull that every year no no no i'm saying they've been relaxing in the preseason right yeah not playing the preseason and then going to week one trying to go from zero to a hundred

so joe jamar

t i need y'all boys get one or two series get one or two series just get get the juices flowing get acclimated to the speed of the game i know you i know y'all your veterans now

come on now we can't start we can't start the season 0-2 0-3 out the gate again we can't we can't afford that i give y'all a quarter i give them a quarter ocho they ain't gonna play no not a quarter no they ain't playing no quarter they ain't playing a quarter the first preseason

one series one one or two series damn they don't get they ain't looking

not to the third game but it's only it's only a young it's only three games now huh three yeah yeah so the third game hey joe we played a half damn near uh the whole first half yeah or play uh or play the first series of third quarter

all right

see what y'all got see what y'all working with

hey joe i love the practice so much i love the preseason so much because i wanted to get my body as acclimated to game speed as fast as possible Joe, we could practice for 100 days straight, full pads against yourself, and you get in the game.

It's nothing like that.

Nothing like that.

It's faster, no matter what you do.

There's no way to duplicate and replicate the speed of an actual NFL game.

I don't care how much practice.

That's why I love it so much.

I had Coach Lewis, hey,

I told this before, Joe, I would not come out the game in preseason.

I made Coach Lewis call a timeout.

You wanted to get your reps in.

What?

It's about one series.

Man,

we came out and the twos went in.

i told the receiver to stay back and i went back in the game hey ochro they i understand what you're saying rhythm and timing is everything brother especially in basketball you know so i i can understand in football you know just you know route running being sharp on your plays i can understand that part just like basketball if you don't play bro you lose that rhythm and time and it throws you off

right yeah yeah

It definitely takes time.

And look, I needed to get refs too.

That's how I was, Ocho.

I wanted to look, I understand, okay, we're going to go a series,

the first game, maybe two series or the quarter, the third, the second game, and then we go into the half.

At bare minimum, we go into the half.

And normally we take the first series because, and sometimes we're like, okay, we're going to use the first series in the third quarter.

We're going to go two minutes, so we're going to go hurry up just to get that in one time.

But,

yeah,

I needed a preseason.

I don't know how they do it.

I take my hat off to these guys that come out there.

And I guess right now, the way they do it, Ocho, these scripted practices against each other, I guess that's their preseason game.

That ain't that ain't foot, that ain't pre no, no, it ain't the same,

not even close,

but I'm anxious to see.

I'm anxious to see uh, uh, what should how she do it.

I look,

I don't care what anybody says, you're gonna be nervous.

I don't care how long you've been playing football.

This is every every,

I got nervous every time I played,

so it wasn't just the preseason.

I mean, I got butterflies and I got goosebumps every game that I played.

Same.

Hey, and you've been playing.

I've been playing tackle football since I was nine and I still got nervous.

Hey, hey,

when they, hey, hey, Joe,

they played at Phil Collins.

Oh, man.

That thing, when that thing played and you out there stretching,

oh,

hey, Joe,

Joe, right before, right before kickoff and that welcome

start playing, I know what you're talking about.

But I'd be Joe, I'd be so nervous.

I'd be so nervous.

And for one, and I made it even worse on myself, Joe, because I done talked trash all week.

Oh, Joe,

it's saying Burrow and the starters will play the first quarter.

See?

Boy, we going to Super Bowl.

Hey, boy, we going to the Super Bowl, boy.

Listen, I know, I know, hey, Zach, a Zach Taylor, hey, Zach, I know you're going to see this.

I love you.

Hey, Joe Burrow, I love you.

T.

Higgins, Chase, the rest of the receivers, the O-line.

Now, this, this, what they doing, what they doing today, what they doing tomorrow, is going to be the reason why we're going to be in San Francisco.

I said it here first.

Okay.

I said it here first.

Now, watch how we come out week one in September.

Who y'all got week one?

Rhythm.

It don't even matter.

Cleveland.

I think we got Cleveland.

No, I'm serious.

I think, hey, Chad,

Chad, who we got on week one?

The Bengals, we got Cleveland, right?

You know what, me, Ocho, I ain't like opening up with division opponents.

Let me get my real.

Let me get some time and let me get like two or three games in before I tell y'all look.

That first game, Ocho, you ain't got your time and your foot ain't.

You know, you ain't got your feet right yet.

You know what I'm saying?

Let me get like three or four games.

Let me get y'all.

Let me see y'all week four, week five.

Okay, okay.

But y'all do open up, y'all do open up with Cleveland.

See, I knew it.

I know it won't change.

At Cleveland.

At Cleveland.

I got the schedule in my head.

I got to to schedule them.

Hey, look, look, it ain't nothing like getting off to a good start neither, boy.

Winning that first game.

Hey, oh, yeah, yeah.

You always want to get off to a good start, boy.

That's important.

Yeah, you got to win that first game.

Ain't nothing like that.

Hey, so the Browns are giving Shadua one day of reps with the ones for the very first time at the joint practice two days before a start.

Let's see here for a second, chat.

So, all this time, he ain't got no work with the ones.

Not one, not one snap, not one rep.

Won't he do it?

The boy finna ball out, man.

Hey, a mysterious way.

I'm telling you, you're gonna go out there, take them boy right down the field.

I'm just trying to figure out, if you're really trying to do an evaluation, Ocho, how can I say I'm trying to evaluate you when I don't give you the same opportunities that I'm giving everybody else that I'm evaluating?

Now, Ocho, I'm going going to see if you can do this job.

Now, the job requires a computer, but I ain't going to give you no computer, Ocho.

But this is what I'm going to do.

Oh, damn, them other guys ain't come to work today.

Okay, Ocho, you up.

Here's the computer.

Now, you ain't let me work the computer the whole damn time for two weeks.

But you know the funny thing about that, though?

Even though I wasn't able to work the computer for them two weeks, when you put the computer in my hands, I'm going to still be better than those that's had it at their disposal hello anyway hello

come on now

i'm gonna be better than those that had the computer them other two weeks before me anyway and i'm gonna put it on display under the under the lights at that

well i i just thought like if you're evaluating you evaluate under the same sort of circumstances you can't say well you can't say well i'm gonna see these two if i got two pans and i'm gonna see which one can stand the temperature i got to put them under the same temperature in order to do a proper evaluation i can't let one guy get no reps with the ones only get a few reps with the threes and fours

and now i get two days before okay

okay you up son yeah that's not an evaluation

Evaluation is you put you put things under the same set of circumstances over the same amount of time.

I like

that's how you get boiling or you get freezing temperatures because guess what it's gonna at 212 it's gonna boil it's either gonna bust pipes or make diamonds baby

i'm ready this is an opportunity

this is what he waited for this what a lot of people cheered for like man i sure hope he get an opportunity i hope so i sure hope he gets a chance to show what he can do

and this is how the opportunity came about i don't feel bad hey i know you saw this chat i know y'all saw this joe i'm not sure how often you on twitter but you know i'm on there all day having fun making jokes but did you see the meme right the meme with um i think it might have been the end of kobe's career kobe might have hit 60 at a game and all of all the celebs was there and they used that that clip of um a snoop dog and and kanye everybody was court side and they was cheering it was hype right i guess kobe might have hit 60 or something.

Yeah, he is 60 that year against Utah.

That's what it was?

Yeah.

And then the caption was,

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Everybody

celebrate.

Dog,

it is so funny.

Even Prime had to comment on it.

Eight-yard slant, his first completion.

Yeah, first completion.

His first completion, people go back, hey, man, that's the game winning the Super Bowl.

Hey, dog.

Hey, what y'all think the race is going to be on this game Friday when they play

oh it's gonna be

crazy yeah rating gonna be crazy because you know everybody tuning in to see what 12 and it do yeah for sure

for sure it'll be the one it hell this game might do a bigger rating than the the real uh browns game

why you bully no no real talk now yeah you're right you're right you're right

you're right when was the last time The last time they had a player that was this talked about?

You probably got to go back to Baker Mayfield.

Yeah, probably Baker.

And the same thing happened to Baker.

Remember?

Hugh put Baker as the backup, and everybody was talking about Baker the backup.

Yeah.

Damn.

I'm trying to think of a player that was talking about the Black Black Black.

Hey, this is how the big it is, Ocho.

Joe, it's a national television thing.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Cleveland in a preseason.

The stage said, man, it's the ASAT time.

Yeah.

Oh,

let me add a little plot twist for Yocho.

Cleveland,

Carolina Panthers, National Televised Game.

That's crazy, ain't it?

That's crazy, ain't it?

It's crazy the power of that last name, even though they're trying to humble it.

Let that sink in.

Yeah.

Go out there and put the ball out, Shadore.

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Devontae Adams doubts Travis Hunter can play both offense and defense.

He told the pivot, I don't even think it's possible to do for real, not at a high level.

Now, once you get out there playing both sides, now you got to tackle Derrick Henry with that frame.

Ocho, you and I have been saying this.

We're not saying, but when you play, you got to play at the level at the number two pick.

So you got to play at the number two pick at the wide receiver, the number two pick at the DB.

It ain't just going out there.

Well, he on both sides of the ball.

No, it don't work like that.

Right.

Doesn't.

So you tackle Derek.

So let that sink in for a second.

You tackle Derrick Henry.

Now you got to go over there and you got to

try to get over against Alexander, Marlon Humphrey, Nate Wiggins.

Yeah.

That's what you up against.

Okay, you guard Cutler Sutton.

Now you get over it against Pat Sartan.

Bro,

bro, these grown, bro, you're not playing.

They're no longer playing with study hall in mind.

They're not playing for books.

They're not playing for tuition.

These are grown-ass men that have families.

Kids in private school, wife that want to go on vacation for 12 to 14 days.

I got mom.

I got my wife's parents that are.

Bro, it's a different game.

yeah.

And so, I get exactly what Devontae's saying.

Devontae said, I ain't saying he can't do it, I'm saying, can't you do it at a high level?

Right,

that's all we're saying.

There's a reason why it used to be like that.

Oh, uh, uh, Chuck McNerrick was the last guy, he was the middle linebacker in the center, he was the last guy to play both ways.

There's a reason why they stopped it, Ocho.

Yeah,

there's a reason why

hey, uh, there's a reason why, there's a reason why

pitching and hitting.

Shohei started pitching again, the hitting suffered.

He stopped pitching, hitting went back up again.

It's not that complicated.

I know being the first, but there's going to be an expectation level that

the level is here for DB and for wide receiver.

And I'm telling you, they coming.

Ocho, you know when guys get drafted high at a position, they are coming yeah

i think you're right i think you're ready for it though joe hey i think you're ready for it you know so you think he go you think he's gonna play at all pro you are pro bowl level at on both i don't know about that no maybe maybe one position because he's gonna be better at one he's gonna be better at one than the other i'm not sure which one that may be I'm not sure.

I mean, as of yet.

And I understand also with Devontae Asimo stand with him not only playing at a high level, playing on both sides of the ball at a high level, and making the risk of injury double.

You know, and it's just for one, if you could sustain

healthy against grown men, you know, having to feed their families, I think he can do it.

Once he gets it, I want to see it because I'm going to be playing.

I'm going to be, I probably, I think people are going to be tuned in a lot more to Jacksonville games this year than in the previous.

But Jacksonville, all eight games probably sold out this year right yeah because because you know you do got you got uh uh collins you got nico collins now go get up against stingley

hey hey hey

that's what you got that's what you up against okay now you got now you got ward now you got to go guard those guys up in and and and and indy

those three guys pierce and mitchell and and pittman jr

josh downs

Yeah, that's what you got.

That's what you got.

It's going to be like that every week, though.

Every week.

There's no, in college, you know, it's an off week.

The level of talent and the competition you're playing.

Boy, all 17, you finna see them boys.

I think he goes every week.

I think he's going to be better at receiver.

I think playing that, playing it.

See,

I thought his skills were better at DB.

I think he had just, because the way he can just track the ball, his instincts, Ocho, how how he could like he could be like watching he fool he'll fool the quarterback like i'm thinking and then they throw it to the flat and he just

yeah he got tremendous instincts now now right now i think he's playing the receiver position with a lot of athleticism right he's electric the really good ones yeah the really good ones you got to get technically sound you get sloppy with routes you start rounding these routes and you start getting lazy

man they pick the a they rob you a

it'd be going up hey you like a tourist in a foreign country they'll pick your pockets

you know what the funny thing about it is when he was at colorado he can get away with it you know oh yeah

you're gonna have to be more technically savvy at the nfl level because everyone is just as fast some people will be faster than you everyone is just as quick some people may be quicker than you understanding what you got across from you what you can get away with what you can and that's going to take time so i think right now, when he does win, whether it's offensively and defensively, it'll be based on athleticism alone.

And those probably across from him, oh, shoot, is Trav, maybe be a scare or some type.

I mean, I'm not scared, but you know what I'm trying to say.

Because

I think Cohen says he's trying to get him into like 80% of the snaps on offense.

Okay.

Well, you know, he was playing damn near 100% of the snaps on offense and 98% of the snaps on defense.

That was in college.

But that, like I'm saying, that's a that's a lot of reps because you know,

let's just say 130 plays in the NFL,

yeah, that's a lot, that's a lot, boy.

That's a lot of plays.

I mean,

I think the most plays I've ever played in an actual game, I think I played like 92 snaps on offense.

That's the most I played in an NFL game.

I got that's a lot of plays.

Remember how you felt the day, the day after, the morning after that game?

Yeah, imagine what Trav is gonna feel like the morning after that game, both sides of the ball.

Now,

he 20, 20, 21, so he might not be.

Now, I'll check back with him when he's 25.

I'll check back with him when he's 26, 27.

Right, right, right, right.

Because you know, you're young, oh cho, baby.

Hey, you play on Sunday, I can play again on Tuesday,

but as a

man, as you started getting older, man, I ain't start feeling good until Friday.

Man, that's all about it.

Bad features.

And like these guys have these Thursday games on chart, man, I'm glad they had it.

I played one, I think I played Thanksgiving, my rookie year.

Right.

Well, I was 22.

I'm glad, man, now can you imagine?

Can you imagine, Ocho, you being 33, 34 years of age, and you play Sunday, and you got to turn right around again and play Thursday?

Hey, hold on, hold on.

Okay, Ocho,

Y'all play on a Sunday.

Y'all probably practice probably what, Monday?

I mean, Tuesday.

Nah, you go run.

You got to run and lift it.

On Monday.

Yeah.

Yeah, Monday.

Yeah.

You go in and watch film, get your lift in.

Tuesday, you got Tuesday off.

Then Wednesday is back at you.

Back to you back at it.

Yeah.

Okay.

Now in college, you're right, Joe.

You play on Saturday.

You out there them pads on Monday.

They gonna work you in college, boy.

I don't care what nobody says.

Oh, what?

But you 18, 19.

That's why I never worked in life.

I'll be honest with you, Ocho.

I don't remember.

It's a long time ago, damn near 40 years, but I don't remember being sore in college.

You remember being sore in college?

I remember

at the NFL games, I was never really sore, even though I played reckless.

I wasn't, obviously, you know, I wasn't physical.

But but the only thing sore on me at the nfl games was my ankles yeah all that starting to stop it i'm not i'm not trying to be funny even when i was younger i would have to turn to the side of the bed yeah and put my feet on the floor and warm my ankles up just just because the way i would just just start and stop until i start and stop And Joe, Joe, I can run full speed, Joe, and stop on a dime.

Your feet be hurting the next day, though.

And Joe, that that next morning, oh, man.

I'm surprised.

I'm surprised I'm still able to hold up this long, Joe, at 57.

Like, I don't have no issues.

Yeah, you're definitely blessed.

You're definitely blessed.

Not to have no hip, no knee.

You know, seeing all those guys, you know, going back to the hall this past weekend, oh, Joe, and seeing all them guys that gotten hip replaced, the knee replaced, and shoulder replaced, and ankle replaced.

Hell, I didn't even know you could replace ankle.

That's why you got to take care of yourself, man.

Damn.

I try to.

Well, ain't no taking care of yourself now.

They ain't going to never give me no more problem.

The doctor said, as long as you don't run, they'll last you the rest of your life.

I said, you ain't got to worry about that, doc.

I said, even if somebody gets after me, I ain't going to be able to get away from it.

I ain't going to be able to get away from it, doc.

You got me.

But I got, I mean, you got to listen to the interview because i know there are a lot of people say man devontae hate devontae hate no no no they gotta hear it they gotta hit it in its in its in its entirety to understand the concept yes yes he's i ain't saying they can't do it i'm saying do it at a high level yeah

because you know like i said i saw time do it a couple times roy green was the the person the first person that i saw do it and did it at a high level.

And then they say, nah, you're just too valuable at the wide receiver.

We're just going to leave you over here.

Because if I'm not mistaken, I think he started off with like a DP.

uh and uh

and you know we saw time do it but you know um

i think troy what's uh play for the uh uh the patriots

troy brown brown you know he do but he i mean he knock a play he wasn't yeah he was mainly in the slot the niggles yeah yeah yeah

he wasn't as good a db as he was a receiver because i think he went to the pro bowl a year or two at at the uh at the wide receiver position

but the expectation for Trav is like he's one of the favorites to not only win defensive rookie of the year, but the offensive rookie of the year.

So that just goes to show you that the level that they're expecting him to play at.

Hey, hey, what happened, boy?

What, Joe, what happened?

What if Trav do win both awards?

Offensive rookie of the year and defensive rookie of the year.

Everybody's going to be shot.

It'll be the greatest.

It'll be the greatest.

Look, there have only been a handful of guys.

Jim Jim Brown

won MVP as a rookie.

Right.

I think Fred Lynn, I think he won MVP in baseball as a rookie.

I think Wes Unsell won MVP as a rookie.

To win offense and defensive player of the year,

that'll be the biggest.

He'd be the first to do that.

I would put it up there with what Magic did.

Magic led a team to the NBA Finals and won finals MVP.

I'd have to put it up there with that.

Think about it.

You the best player on offense and the best player on defense as a rookie, right?

Right,

man, that's possible, though.

I think it's possible.

Oh my goodness,

Candace Parker did it

and Will.

Yeah, Will.

Okay, Wilk did it also, but Will averaged like 100 points.

I mean, also, we talk, we talk about football now.

We talk about oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's different, yeah, yeah.

I mean, there's no quilling because we don't have anything to base it to like base it on.

Ocho, we've never seen anybody play the kind of snaps or kind of reps that he wants to play.

So it's hard for us to base it.

Only, like I said,

I saw Time.

I was in the league when Time was doing it in Dallas in 95.

You know, whatcha call him got hurt and he was

catching pass and we know what he was on the defensive side of football.

I saw Troy Brown.

I think I had already retired by the time Troy was doing.

But we've never seen a player

play at this.

I mean, like I said, if you go back to the 50s and 40s, 50s, and when they was doing it, that's one thing.

I'm talking about in modern football.

Okay, let's go since the merger.

Let's do it like that.

Or the Super Bowl era, Ocho, because, you know, man, we used to play both ways, bro, but y'all had 12 players.

You had no choice but to play both ways.

But that being said, yeah, I mean,

a high level, that's the expectation.

It's like you, Ocho.

They expect Ocho to play at a high level.

Yeah.

Okay, whoever the DB is, they expect him to play at a high level.

Now, you're the same person.

they still expect that high level of play whatever side of the ball that you're on at that given time so i'm definitely going to be watching i'm going to be rooting for him i'm going to get him a couple picks i'm going to get him a couple get him a couple touchdowns it ain't often you see a guy get a pick at a touchdown now

yeah he's going to be special man i'm looking forward to that too i'm looking forward to the season man this uh this this weekend gonna be fun and from here on out so it's gonna be uh it's gonna be interesting y'all season might not be going well if y'all don't get michael parson whoa whoa whoa chill come on now come on now hey you heard you you heard what you heard what jerry said today or you ain't

see that one i ain't see it oh you missed it he just he just compared he compared a deal when he bought the cowboys all it was it was based on a handshake handshake okay okay yeah yeah

and eye contact all right hey boy jerry is 2025 man

there's a reason why we have written contracts because you know why ocho that jerry is absolutely right.

A contract before we had written contracts was a meeting of the minds.

I shake your head.

Ocho, you will give me a 20 bushel of grain.

Okay, I'm going to give you some cattle.

Or

I'm going to give you something of equal value.

We have a handshake.

That was a meeting of the minds.

But guess what happened?

along the way.

Somebody got what they were supposed to get and in return didn't return what they were supposed to give.

So they say, you know what?

We got to stop this here.

So as Judge Judy says, hey, that's 16.

Oh, this right here.

That's 60.

If they don't hear, that's what I need to know.

Because we know

people say one thing and do something else.

Now, an oral contract isn't, I mean, some states

that's enforceable.

But Jerry, no, that man was talking about being leadership.

He's going to get him signed, man.

but i don't but you know ocho if a guy has an agent you're not supposed to you're not supposed to do a deal with with a player you're not even supposed to talk to the player especially concerning concerning anything having to do contract and numbers

because the first thing the owner gonna do is hey let's be buddy buddy and they're gonna try to undermine you they definitely not gonna give you what your value is what your worth is they no absolutely not they trying to save money

you know and and the one thing you have to understand joe and chat this is this is for y'all as well is when you are a billionaire, in order to get to that point, you have to be very shrewd when it comes to business.

You got to step on a lot of people, Joe, along the way to get to that kind of wealth.

Yeah.

I don't think people understand that.

No, you got to be cut.

You got to be ruthless.

The owners are not on our, they're not on our side and never have been.

Especially if you build it.

Now, if somebody leaves it to you, oh, Joe, your dad was worth $15 billion and he leaves you in Chauncey.

That's one thing.

But for him to climb to that bladder and to get that money, oh yeah, he stepped on a lot of people, stepped on, stepped over, stepped around, all that.

Yeah.

And you know what I wish?

You know what I wish?

What you wish?

This is no disrespect, chat.

This is this is for y'all too, Joe.

And for people that have attained and amassed an extreme amount of wealth,

There's always a way they got there.

There's always a loophole that gives you one hundred jump to get to a certain degree of it and to continue to build it off like you did it all the right way.

I'm going to leave it at that.

I don't want to get too far into it.

I don't want to get too far into it, but

y'all can catch the

catch what you catch.

If you can't catch it, get your hands right.

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one of the members of the hot boys 400 degrees here he is Luzie Allah on Juvie what it do you oh man cooling man I'm in the studio right now doing some shit looking it up working on my album yeah trying to finish up Oh, you know, you got something.

You know what?

We ain't going to talk about anything else.

Go ahead and tell us about what you got coming out.

oh my album uh it's called a boiling point bro this is crazy it's some grown man music you know i recognize i recognize it's a uh a lane for me right now because everybody doing it you know doing their thing so i feel like it's a it's a gap right there for us and i'm trying to fill that gap

oh see juby you thinking like i'm thinking you thinking like i'm thinking there's a gap there's a lane that you stand in right that nobody's in right now right so since we on the same page, I really think I should be on the app.

I put pylons up so he can't get in that lane, Juvie.

That's why I put pylons up because I know where he was going.

Listen, I gotta, I could, I could shoot a quick 16 to you right now, real quick, in case you want to use me for you know,

I don't know.

You got bars, nigga, you got

bars, right?

No,

16 candles, the only thing he's gonna shoot, blow.

Hey,

I'm from Miami.

What you want to do?

Okay, that's enough.

That's enough.

That's too much action.

That's too much.

That's too much.

Hey.

The cash money.

30th anniversary.

Let me know.

Let me know.

Listen, I could always use another job, right?

Shit.

Do we 30 years?

Yeah.

30 years.

30 years, bro.

Damn.

Does it seem that long to you?

Say it again.

Does it seem that long to you?

No, it really seems long when somebody tell it to me.

You know,

you know what I'm saying?

Like, you in the NFL when somebody brings up the NFL and stuff like that.

You're playing and feel like, damn, damn, it's been that long.

Damn.

I try not to harp on it, but when people say it, I look back, I'd be like, damn, I can't believe this shit.

30 years.

I'm like James Brown right now.

Joe, we don't know if this is true, but what's being reported is that Turk left.

He exited early with tensions with BG.

Is there anything you can shed light on?

Is that true?

Or the tour is over?

What's going on?

Well,

it came from the higher up.

So I really don't know what the paperwork said.

They sent him some paperwork, I heard.

So I don't really know what the reason was.

So

they got to kind of like let us know, but they got us in the blind on what really happened.

I don't know if that was their reaction because of what was, you know, what he was saying on the internet or something like that.

Right, Juvie.

But I truthfully don't know what the real, you know, what the real reason was.

He said it was money.

He said it was money, right?

So maybe it was that.

I really don't know, bro.

You know, niggas ain't taking no short bag.

Once you commit to having a bag a certain way, you know, you

don't understand and come back and change the deal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I really don't know, bro, because I ain't see his paperwork, but I really

man.

Go ahead, Joe.

Oh, man.

Hey, Juvie, man, check this out.

Back in 98,

98, Hot Boys came to Little Rock, Arkansas, man.

Barton, Color Center.

That was my first concert ever, bro.

Y'all came and told that thing down.

You hear me?

Little Rock.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, Little Rock.

Y'all ain't get to finish, though, because them boys won't stop.

Hey, Hey, man,

every time we was going there, man, to Little Rock, man,

it was like that.

It kind of like Oakland.

That's like a third world country, bro.

You ride up these highways.

Did you get there?

It's like, damn, bro.

And they different out there, dog.

They thugging.

They thugging.

Hey, can y'all just let us one time finish the concert?

Let us get out.

We tried to give y'all y'all two hours, but damn.

Telly.

Man,

man, we was banned from Oakland like that for like 10 years man they wouldn't let us get down to oakland because of that damn yeah

hey hey jewel when it comes to making an album right you know i think is is is as fans of of hip-hop in general we don't know the ins and outs and how things work but i think it's just interesting i'm sure the chat will probably know how long does it actually take to finish an album you know we're used to just getting the finished product but we don't know much about what goes into production and and studio time and all that other good stuff how long does it normally take an album Man, everybody has their own different,

you know, way of doing things.

Like for me, for me, my time, you know, it's when I got some free time.

So with me, man, I can knock out three or four songs in a night.

So, because I'm engineering, I'm doing everything by myself.

I really don't have nobody in the studio.

And then I got full access to studio time all the time.

So I'm not paying for it.

So for me, man, it's however long I want it to be, but I can get an album done right.

Like I would say, if I'm focused, like in a month's time something like that

hey let me

in order to be a rapper do you have to be a night owl do anybody do anybody work normal business hours or does everybody up on some book yeah i'm all day with it i don't have like i really don't have a uh a time whenever i feel it i'm going but a lot of them cats don't go in the studio like way man way being uh going in at three o'clock in the morning.

I'm like,

how do you do that?

But, you know, I guess guess it's them going to the clubs, leaving out of the clubs, going straight to the studio, having that, just keep that vibe that you had.

Because a lot of us get our ideas while we out and about.

Hey, look, when you're in the studio, what kind of vibe you got in there?

You like to be dolo or you kind of, you know, you have some people in there just vibing.

It's it right here.

Look, look, look, look.

I'm giving you a 360.

Damn, you ain't got nothing on it now.

Well, I used to hang with DigiDesign when they first first started Pro Tools in Nashville and stuff like that.

So, I've been touching the stuff since the beginning.

So, yeah,

you know how to work everything in there.

I know how to work everything, put the studio together, wiring.

I understand all of it, bro.

You got to remember, I make lamps, I'm an electronic guy, so I make all kinds of stuff, I can build all kinds of stuff.

So, wires, you know, wires and stuff like that.

That's my thing.

Okay.

Well, maybe you can help Joe.

I tell Joe his

father, man.

You can walk in all the time

it's okay hey the devil working baby we fighting we fighting all here

i see you was glitching bro you all right though yeah what kind of service you got uh i think we got uh dial

come on come on now come on chill

it ain't that funny bro

come on now

you let me back juvie When you made back that ass up, did you have any idea that you was going to be making a song that will stand the test of time?

When that song comes on,

they're hitting the floor.

I was just trying to get the women to shake some ass, bro.

You know, I was trying.

I'm going to keep it real, bro.

I figured if I said something to make the women shake their ass, I would get them because I came from that, right?

I was making that kind of music from the start.

So it was kind of like back that ass up was easy for me to make.

The other songs was kind of hard for me to make, but songs like that, booty shaking records, that's simple for me

i'm in there right now making a booty shaking record

hey that hey when that beat drops a rap

yeah all day

all day man man and fresh a bad

dog you're a bad

bro bad you

different bro

and uh when he make when man and fresh make a beat it's it's more like you competing with him because he trying to beat you out like he not trying to just make a beat to to compliment you he's like look you better do your thing because i'm about to shine on this and don't let him have a verse watch how many breaks he's gonna have on this verse that gonna beat down you hear him on back that ass up yeah so when you come in

i think damn you got every everything playing on your part hey listen so when you hear the beat you kind of go into whatever thought process you have or do you have or do you already go in with a preconceived or what you want to talk about

I listen to the beat, the beat.

I follow the music, man.

The music most of the time give me ideas and directions to go.

You feel me?

But the fact that I don't write, I just sit here and just think of my thoughts and put them down.

So

I got to be one of them cats.

That's why I got to be hands-on.

That's why I don't like engineers because engineers don't really understand when I want them to hit record and when I want them to stop.

They don't understand your instincts.

That's why I tell all the artists, all the young cats, man, learn how to record yourself.

You're going to make your best songs when you learn how to record yourself.

Damn.

That's dope.

That's live.

Jude, let me ask you a question.

What made you decide to get back in the studio?

Is it like, man, I ain't really happy with being out there today.

It's just my time to get back in the studio.

What made you decide to go back into the studio?

Man, that tiny that's performer sparked my fire, bro.

Okay.

You know, just letting people, when people, when people realize that, nah, this nigga really can rap these songs, the music this can sing this

that sparked my fire you know what i'm saying that like got me back on the road got me back got me back going you always it's always something it's always that little something that gets gets you going you know what i'm saying and that you're like you know what i'm about to run that i'm about to take this

and running and that's what that was for me you know and and and and i'm i don't deny it you know i always tell people like man everybody needs something you know everybody needs something some everybody needs somewhere to start you know what i'm saying you for instance bro your fucking interview with cat williams you took that shit and you know what i'm saying yep and that's what that that's the same thing it had the same effect that tiny desk did for me because not only that a lot of artists had to go after me and now that standard is up there now they got to like top me not saying that motherfuckers ain't can't outperform me and shit but it's a standard now and everybody who go on tiny desk now they know like man we gotta that i gotta outdo

but you you know what, Juvie?

Going on the tiny desk,

you have to perform a different way that you normally would.

And people got to see you in a different light.

They're like, okay.

He really, I mean, yeah.

I mean, it wasn't the

beat wasn't overpowering.

The music wasn't so loud.

It was distorted.

You could hear, you could hear every single thing that you're saying.

It's like, oh, that's what he was saying.

I've been saying it wrong all the year for 25 years.

I've been saying it wrong.

I had a cheat code, though, bro.

You know, I had John Baptiste and Trump on Shorty with Manny Fresh and the 40 degrees band.

So, I kind of had a cheat code.

I bought all the guns.

I brought everybody with me.

Like, fuck that.

I'm gonna make this shit something big if I can.

You know,

well, you definitely turned it out.

That was a hell of a performance.

Thank you, dog.

Thank you.

Yeah,

being from Louisiana, you know a thing or two about food.

See how you said it?

You said it like us because we say Louisiana.

Louisiana.

We done lost so fucking much, man.

Fuck, we need some wins, nigga.

Yeah, anybody tried to do Louisiana?

Louisiana.

Louisiana, nigga.

Outside of your home state, where you've had some of the best cooking at?

Man, you know, I lived in Atlanta for like, for like seven years.

So I had some good cooking in Atlanta, bro.

Yeah, yeah.

I would say Miami, I had some Cuban food that was fucking off the chain.

Man, it varies, bro, but

I would definitely give, I definitely give Atlanta their props, man, because they cover a lot of ground with food.

Yeah,

if they stop, charge you $700, $700,000.

Now, you're going to pay for it.

You're going to pay for it.

You're going to pay for it.

And make you wait.

There's two people in there.

Oh, we got an hour wait.

It ain't but two people in here.

What do you mean I got to wait an hour?

But you know the truth, man.

I'm from the cooking capital.

Us New Orleans boys, we don't really like to eat too much food out of New Orleans.

We like our our shit, man.

Y'all be putting too much hot sauce in y'all's food, though.

Man, y'all be

Juvie.

Probably

the wrong people, man.

You can't go to the wrong food.

No, it's not good.

I can't taste nothing.

You eating that fucking restaurant shit, man.

I'm not shitting on the restaurants in the city, but it's some old ladies and shit like that.

Some family members down here that's going to give you that real.

You got to get that real, bro.

Matter of fact, hey, hey, speaking of real, Juvie, I got something for you.

I know you like food.

You like restaurants.

Obviously, Louisiana being one of the capitals when it comes to cooking and restaurants.

I think Chicago is up there as well.

Obviously, New York.

But if next time you come to Miami, I need you to try two places for me.

I need you to try two places for me.

There's a place called ICrave.

My young bull owned icrave.

really good food breakfast lunch i'm not sure if they do have dinner but if you if they don't have dinner then you got to try another restaurant called smith and webster one of my young bulls owns Smith and Webster.

Man, superb, superb.

You need to add that to your, you know, what I like in Miami, they got this little breakfast spot, man.

Everybody go to it's a it's like a it's a small little spot, it's like a little family spot.

It closed at two o'clock.

I don't even remember the name of it, but they got fish and grits.

MLK, huh?

MLK or Jackson's?

I think that's the MLK.

I think that's it.

I'll be the name up, man.

Hold on, it's in the hood, isn't it?

It's a fucking chain.

Fish and Grits,

huh?

It's It's in the hood.

It's in the hood.

Yeah, that's probably, that's probably MLK.

Yeah, it's in the hood.

Everybody, fuck, they know me.

I'm in that bitch.

Ocho, ocho, what's this?

Soul food?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, soul food.

Like, I think it's right off, right off 22nd

by Drew,

Drew Middle School.

Drew, y'all eating, you eating Nutria down there?

You eat that little rotor?

Fuck no.

I don't eat that weird shit, bro.

I don't fuck with none of that weird shit, bro.

Hey, y'all be eating gay

I don't eat no gator, none of that shit, bro.

I can't eat no gator.

I go out there with my people and try to catch one of them,

but I ain't eating that shit.

Nah, not me.

I don't do none of the strange shit

because you know, hey, you know, y'all be, y'all be, y'all be whipping it up to my oh, this is good.

Y'all don't add some of everything.

Nah, man, my family cook all that, man.

Siddlings, everything.

I just, I don't eat it, bro.

I never ate it.

I can't do it.

I'm out out of the house once they start cooking.

I'm gone.

Yeah, see,

and the side, you know, they cook that pot.

Look, they put everything in a pot.

You lucky it don't kill you.

You got to get some stuffed bell peppers, man.

I'm surprised.

The first time I ever had Gator was in New Orleans, man.

Yeah,

but you got it.

But you got to cook it, and it got to be hot because it's gamey.

And you can't eat it cold.

I'm talking about you got to get it right out of the grease.

I can't eat that shit, bro.

I'll go to thinking about this motherfucker crawling through the swamp and shit.

I can't fuck with it.

And ketchup.

You need cleaning.

They put ketchup all over everything.

I can't do that either.

I ain't no ketchup either.

So, Juvie,

do you have any idea when the album is going to drop?

We're looking at September, man, but that date can easily be moved because I'm so meticulous on how I want this album to sound.

And I just feel like I need to do like one or two more songs right now.

And that's what I'm in doing right now.

The tour.

The tour.

The tour is still going on?

Yeah, the tour is still going on.

I think they moved some of the dates back, though, but I know I'm about to go on a promo run.

So they got to figure this.

They got to figure the logistics out of that.

Okay.

All right.

Go ahead,

show guy.

Me,

I'm one of them guys that

my calendar stay full, man.

You know, I've been blessed to always be able to.

do a lot, you know, get booked, man.

I do a lot of shows, bro.

So I never been short in that department at all i got you so shoot while you while you finishing up that studio you i mean while you finished up that album just let me know how i can sing you that verse you know that verse

you can use it you don't have to use it but if you want to put it in there hey you know it just give you something to work with you got to do some loop skywalker man you got to get some booty shaking bro you gotta like yeah yeah yeah

your verse can't be you can't be spitting bars bro you gotta be okay

i got you i got you i get you

the ladies don't understand bars what they do but they don't some of the majority of the women in it they don't want to hear that they want they want to get their dance on okay we can do that too yeah we can do that i you i used to be i used to be the dj and uh in the man on the mic at uh back in the day at king of diamonds that was me

putting something on that one i've been in there a few times i ain't never seen you back there that was that was me that was me on the mic that was me i was there when you came yeah i ain't seen that was it chad or oh chill which one was it i was chad back then i was chad hey listen you gotta think i had even when i had like 27 jobs back then damn my damn

i missed i missed it i missed it hey hey juvie you got any features on this new album coming up bro

yeah i got features man i got some features on here

Some cats supposed to be featured on here that ain't showed up for me.

Can you give us one?

Just give us one feature.

Who you got on there that's going to be talking about something?

cash money all right say list

everybody i know i know uh uh we've we've baby gotta be on that thing yeah cash money yeah

we've baby yeah hey juvie hey congratulations on everything outstanding career uh good luck on the tour man we can't wait for this album to drop in september come hey with the day before a couple of days before come back and tell us come back talk i got y'all and i'm gonna let y'all hear something man man.

You gotta check out some of this music, but before it comes out for sure, bet appreciate that.

All right, bro.

Yes,

I can't wait to see my version, right?

Hey, I'm gonna be famous, boy.

I'm telling you, what's up?

Famous.

Who?

You

know, I can rap.

I just can't go off the top of the head.

I'm not Lil Wayne.

I'm not Jay-Z.

But once I write things down and I visualize it, and then I can execute it off paper, that's what you're saying.

They send you a beat, you're gonna go off.

Yeah, I all I gotta do, give me 10 minutes, Joe.

You know that notepad, oh the notepad I got filled up with all your quotes and past, yeah, yeah.

You give me 10 minutes, give me a beat, let me think of situations and variations that I've been through in life, I can put down on paper.

And man, it's listen when it's done right, the artistry of my pen is magnificent.

You hear me?

Like, Joe, I really do that, Joe.

All right.

Joe, he can't eat right and curse it.

Y'all don't understand.

Hey, Joe, you don't understand.

Joe,

I was a drama and theater major, Joe.

Like, I can do that.

Oh, you guys are drama.

Huh?

You should be a drama theater major.

Now, you just told us, you know, with the four Jukos.

And you're going to talk about you a drama and theater major.

Right.

See, that was the easiest classes for me to get credit to be able to to play football.

That's why I was, you know, you understand what you see where I'm going with that.

No, drama theater ain't easy.

So, what you Shakespeare?

Wait, hold on.

For me, drama and theater is very easy.

I can get into character quick.

Right now, I can recite.

I could, I could recite Shakespeare.

Yeah, I know we, we, we, we watching one, we looking at it, okay, okay, okay,

we, we know

what's wrong with this dude.

Hey, hey, Joe, hey, Joe, give us some Shakespeare, give us, you know, your, your best thespian.

Right now?

Yeah.

So you do poetry and all that.

What?

Joe, I do spoken word at the Hard Rock down here

on Tuesday nights at the Hard Rock Casino.

Yeah, go ahead.

All right, friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ear.

Go ahead, give us something.

Four score and 20 years ago, you know, do us, give us something like that.

Give us Gettysburg address.

Give us.

You ready?

Take your time.

Come on, don't do that.

Let me focus.

Let me focus.

Get focused, OJ.

Get focused.

Hey, listen.

Hey, Joe, I was a drama major.

I was a theater major.

Watch how I'm going to be able to do it.

Take your time.

Take Take your time.

Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind.

Therefore, a winged Cupid painted blind.

Thank you.

Hey, boy, you hello Will, boy.

You so better.

Hey, nah, hey, hey, nah, nah.

Now, when they say you special, bro, hey, you're a special dude, bro.

Something wrong with you.

Hey, listen, man.

Listen.

Hey, listen.

When I was in high school, I was in a little cubicle in the back, man.

But it's all good.

Where in the back?

Little classroom, little cubicle.

Yeah,

I know my baby saw that.

I know you watching.

That was for you.

I wrote that.

I wrote that.

That came from here.

So you say you had the hard rock on Tuesday night?

Yeah, I do.

Yeah.

Oh, Joe.

I do Um, spoken word,

yeah, man.

You want me to give you another?

I can give you another one right now off the top of the head.

You want one?

You want one?

Go ahead, give us one more.

Why not?

Why not?

Go ahead.

Yeah, you do one more,

one more.

Okay, snap with me.

Snap with me then.

Come on, huh?

Snap with me, Joe.

Come on.

Many nights, rain falls.

Umbrella calls.

Dog walks, cat screams,

nails across a chosboard,

oven, stove, refrigerator, silver,

went worth.

Not many days do they have like this.

Today's Wednesday, they call it hump.

Why would it be a day?

Why couldn't it be night?

That boy think he'll love Jones don't eat

Hey, that was a good one, right?

That was a good one.

Yeah, that was good with that, Ocho.

I appreciate that.

I'm glad y'all appreciate my work.

Yeah, okay.

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