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How you doing today, Joe?

Great day, great day.

Another day on the pod with my good man, debo can't wait to get into these topics man it was a lot going on a lot of things to talk about definitely definitely the first thing we're gonna talk about though is how the you know unc went over there and got their face beat in got 48 to 40 48 to 14 man you know uh i guess that was uh bills uh welcome welcome to college party i i would say it wasn't no joke he's letting them know man these boys did not come to play tcu was not playing with them bro yeah definitely um so you know looking at it uh

you know i think the the defense uh personally um just looking at it they they just got they just got dominated um i think on both sides of the ball when you look at the offensive and defensive lines uh they were they were getting moved around um the whole game yeah yeah the whole game on on top of that you you know you got guys not you know catching passes you got guys missing tackles dropping punts everything that you know when i was there that they harped on fundamentals, you know what I'm saying?

You know, see what you're supposed to see, be where you're supposed to be and do what it is that you're supposed to do.

And, you know, you had guys that just looked like they were totally out of position.

You know, big plays.

It was nothing like you normally see of a.

They looked lost, Debo.

They looked lost.

They looked like they were ill-prepared and uncoached.

And that is not what you see in the Bill Belichick type defense or a team.

The one thing they're going to do is be coached.

They're going to have eye discipline.

They're going to tackle.

They're going to be in the right position.

It's not, they might not be the most athletic people, but the one thing they're going to do is they're going to be in the right place and make the right play at the right time.

They looked completely lost.

When they first started off the game, it was all good.

The first drive, first pass, crossed, big over, boom, everybody's hype.

First drive, they score.

And from that, it's funny how the table was like 40-something.

Well,

like non-40-something unanswered.

That's exactly what it was, Debo.

Yeah.

He threw the pick six.

That's not something you could do, man.

No, the pick six before halftime killed them.

And then coming out of half time.

I don't think that killed him.

I think they didn't regroup at halftime.

Normally, you know, when you get in there, especially at when I was there with Bill, he has a plan, you know, in place and he puts that plan in place.

And okay, this is what we're going to do.

This is what we're going to adjust to.

And you come out, you adjust to it.

And, you know, I think he's very good at adjusting to halftime.

But again, you're, you're in college, you know what I'm saying?

And it's a, you know, it's a difference between, you know, college and the pros.

You know, how hard do you think it is to go from coaching in the NFL to college?

I think it's, I think it's very hard.

I think because when you have professionals that understand that it's, it's not no longer, we're not doing this for fun.

This is our profession.

This is our job.

What's on film is our resume.

So you're speaking to grown men.

And when you you tell them one time, they shouldn't be able to, you shouldn't make the same mistake twice in the league or you're going to be out the way.

In college, it's more,

man, like,

dude, do you get this or do you don't?

You know what I'm saying?

I think it's harder to coach those kids than it is to coach professionals.

And now with those kids being NIL guys, these kids are also now getting paid.

These kids are also now looking at Bill like, what you going to tell me?

You know what I'm saying?

I'm making a million dollars here playing a little game.

I can go somewhere else next year.

You know what I'm saying?

I got this.

So not being able to have the maturity of like, you can't really coach these dudes up because now they're looking at you like, who are you talking to?

You know what I'm saying?

Instead of the respect factor that he used to have in college, where you coach Meyer, when he was telling us what to do, he was the law.

There's nothing over Meyer.

Meyer's not going to let us play.

If we go somewhere else, you had to sit out a year.

You couldn't just go to another school and then go play.

No, you had to go do what Cam did.

He went Juco, then he had to go to Auburn.

There's steps.

So kids are acting a little bit different.

So I think that's going to be a whole lot tougher for him to coach.

But I was saying, like you said, too, the halftime part, pick going into the second half.

Now you have the whole halftime to figure it out, get your changes, get your execution.

First play, Debo.

The man ran 75 yards untouched and scored again right out of halftime.

The first play.

And that's not the adjustment you want to.

That's not, you didn't do any adjustments.

You didn't do that.

And that's something else.

The big difference, you know, is you're recruiting now.

You actually have to go out here and find the guys that you need to get.

That's a whole nother process.

You don't have a whole scouting department to go out there and get what it is that you need.

Again,

you have grown men out here.

They're trying to put food on their table.

They're trying to feed their family.

It's going to be a lot more motivation to go out there and get it done where you got these 17 to 20 something year old kids and they got money in their pocket now,

$1,000, $100,000.

That's a a big thing to them and i think another thing with college is that you know they've really limited the amount of time i think that's what we're seeing in the tackling they've limited the amount of time that these guys could go out here and do live drills go and tackle going you know perfect their craft and i think that's a big issue of why we were seeing you know so many missed tackles

No, I think so too.

You're exactly right.

I mean, it's live reps.

They're taking out the live reps.

They want dudes to, they're trying to protect people's heads and all of the uh protocols being able to go full speed and get those live tackling reps being able to get those angle tackles that doesn't happen

it's a big difference between running up here and breaking down oh i was formed up ready to go okay but what happens when he decides that he's not going to cut away from you and he lowers his shoulder and he's going to he's going to now he's going to run you over yeah those things that in practice you have to go through for sure to be able to you know get that day in and day out so that when you get into that game you know what i can see the adjustment you know it may be a little late but i'm not going to miss this whole tackle because i've been coming up here all practice squatting down form fitting looking pretty and now you know he go ahead and he put that right down on my ass and i'm sitting there on my back with my feet kicked up in the air yeah you know like like a horse that done got

put down, you know,

for sure, for sure.

Cause dude can run all the way up to the right position, stand there, and then look, bang.

Now you're going to get back.

What you going to do when you get there you gonna drive through him are you gonna go through the target or are you gonna become the you know what i'm saying right the uh a a speed bump yeah yeah i don't uh

i don't uh

i don't

dang man i just i don't i don't think i would ever go from coaching in an nfl to to to coaching in college because again, especially in today's era, you lose a lot of the motivation that

guys have you know when you're in the pros versus now in college you know you got some of these guys out here they could they could mess around and actually make you know generational money you know millions of dollars if they're smart with it and have you know uh financial understanding of what it is they need to do and

you're sitting here as their position coach trying to tell them what to do that's that's a hard role to hold a thousand percent man yeah

they had that role over us because we couldn't even do anything that name and likeness you couldn't get a haircut you couldn't couldn't get a free tattoo that means t shirt proud got kicked out of school for getting free tattoos like right crazy dude that was that that was that long ago you know what i'm saying that wasn't that long ago that we couldn't actually do a thing we couldn't have no money like they want us to be legitimately broke they're like oh you getting your uh you're paying they're paying for your housing i'm like so like if a dude was in my class that was an artist and made it a painting he could sell that painting for 250 000 and nobody gonna say nothing to him but i can't go do an autograph signing joe hayden at the university of florida make a couple thousand dollars because I ain't got it.

They like this, that's against this NCAA.

Like, huh?

If they don't, that's my money.

A dinner.

That's me.

A dinner could get you a fruit.

A dinner could get you, get you pop.

You know what I mean?

Anything, bro.

Anything.

So that was crazy.

Like not being able to do that and just being able to not have no money.

So now these dudes are,

I appreciate it.

I love it.

But at the same time, that's what gives them a little bit more like, you can't really tell me nothing, but I mean,

I don't like that part.

I think they could still be able to grind, still be able to get it.

Cause that's the thing.

What I loved about college when we was there, I think that made us want to get it out the mud because you still didn't have nothing.

You know what I'm saying?

You were still in it with your boys.

Nobody wanted to go back to the situation.

All y'all broke, man.

So we like, you know, that's something that I see.

I see now with

current players and some of their kids.

It's like, yo, you know, even me, I'm like, I done made it too comfortable for these dudes.

Like,

my, you know, my oldest son finally dropped down and started, started really grinding into it, but it was only after he had a couple surgeries, you know what I'm saying?

And now he has to have another one tomorrow.

But, you know, I was in a situation where I'm like, yo, I got to grind.

I got to go out here.

I don't want to, I don't want to be in the situation I grew up in.

I didn't know I was poor, Joe, until I got to college and realized, like, yo, everybody don't live how we was living back here.

Like, we ain't got no money.

We actually, like, we actually waiting.

We, we folding up antennas to make sure you get the TV to work and all this other stuff.

TV breaks, you got to wait.

For sure.

It ain't just go get a new one and everything else.

Like you're saying, too, though, that's the thing.

You know, you're your surroundings.

Like, everybody that's around you is kind of in the same situation.

The internet, being able to get on TikTok, being able to see everybody, how everybody's living miles away and fake living.

You know what I'm saying?

Because all that stuff is how their perspective, what they put out.

You always want to live up with the Joneses, keep up with the Joneses.

When you was in your neighborhood, you was riding your bike to your man's street, up the street, and y'all was playing football in the street until the lights came back on.

You wasn't sitting there looking to see, oh, what little Johnny got that lives in California with his family that's just traveling and doing that stuff.

You figuring it out what you got.

You up here window shopping, daydreaming, trying to compare your life to somebody's life that ain't even really what they putting on there.

For nothing.

They just fronting.

You know what I'm saying?

Got you depressed, got you stressed out over something that doesn't even need to be nothing.

You know what I'm saying?

So just a whole different era, it's just a whole different era.

But that grind, that that like wanting to get it that that that that grit that we had some of that stuff you can't put it into everybody some people ain't built like that you know what i'm saying the grind man like we got we got we got the top 100 come out and uh i guess we got barkley san querez barkley ranked as number one um are you surprised it's a running back at the top i'm not gonna lie over a quarterback uh

Over a quarterback, I would say yes, but Saquon is

deserving of it.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, I do think there's been like his season, his year that he had, what he did for the Eagles, what he did for the Senate.

That's what they don't understand.

And I'm not surprised by it at all.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

But I think especially what he did coming to that team that year and going and getting the ultimate goal in the game is the reason they got him.

And he made that happen.

He helped make that.

He was a huge part of that, along with the season he had

plays he had.

Yes, I'm, you know, I'm not upset about it.

I'm not surprised by it.

I'm good with it.

I'm good with it.

I'm happy for him.

And I'm happy that just

shows that NFL players, they don't like the way that some people saying, like, the contracts and running backs are going down.

It just shows that this is your players, your people, your peers.

You know what I'm saying?

They recognize your game.

They like this.

This dude had the best season.

He's the best player in the league right now.

And having Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jamar Chase, Patrick Mahomes right behind him speaks volumes.

And I can see them saying that, man, that dude was the best player of the season.

You know what I'm saying?

That's all you want from your people.

Hey, hey, speaking of that, what was your highest rating, Joe?

23.

You know what your highest rating was?

I don't know.

23.

Oh, I know that.

Man, I was watching that joint.

I'm like, man, they better get me lower than low.

I got the 23.

I was 30.

I was 39 and then 23.

Yeah, 23 was my highest, though.

Okay.

Okay.

I couldn't even tell you what my highest was.

I don't.

We're going to get on that research, James.

I know you.

I know you're you're going to know.

I don't know.

I ain't going to lie.

I don't know.

I don't know.

How much you think guys care about that, though?

I mean,

honestly, if

you just want to be recognized by your peers for what you do.

And that's why we, I think we played it to be the best at our position.

We didn't just do it to be out there.

So.

the recognition like the grind we're trying we want to be the best that we can be we're already in the league and that's what happens but now once you're in the league i want to be the best in the league i want to be all pro i want to go to the pro bowls i want to win super bowls so that's just in your own mental when you're competing against yourself like in this joint here's the

best we won our first super bowl which was in uh

2005 uh

detroit and uh i was a special teams player right

and i mean it's i'm

what i'm going to say is going to sound kind of crazy but i was a special teams player okay and i was like this don't this don't feel like you know what i what I see on TV.

I'm like, well, I'm like, maybe it'll it'll feel different

if I was a starter and

I'm, you know, I'm more of a part of the, of the actual, you know, team for the whole, all, you know, all that.

So, you know, you fast forward to 2008 and, you know, we went in in Tampa.

And

I remember sitting on the podium, dude, not even the podium.

It was a camera that was out there and it had a little round cylinder around around it.

So I sat down on that and I'm looking around

and this is going to sound crazy.

I was like,

it still feels the same.

It was like,

watching it on TV, bro,

was way more exciting than actually being there and winning it.

Like when you look at the TV, bro, like they, they, they sell you everything.

So when you're looking at the TV, you're watching every player celebrate here, celebrate there.

So it's like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Confetti, all this,

do.

And I'm sitting there and I'm like, I see the confetti falling.

It's like cameras looking at me.

And I'm like,

I'm like, yeah, it's cool, but it ain't like they show it on TV.

Was your folks there?

Was your family there?

Yeah.

Yeah, dude, I was so tired.

As soon as the game hit and it was over with.

You was exhausted.

I was exhausted, bro.

I sat down.

I just took my helmet off, dude.

And I was just, I just had my head like, I was just like this.

And I look up and I'm looking around.

And I'm just like,

damn, it still ain't like you see it on TV.

Damn, brody.

Your ass was drained, Debo.

Yeah.

Drained.

You was mentally and I took two bags at halftime, bro.

See, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah.

Is this the one when you did the pick six?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Man, you couldn't breathe.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Tebo, you was exhausted.

Listen, I was actually hurt a little bit, though, but because when I hit my head, my neck hit the ground first and it kind of crunched.

I started to jump back up.

And when I went to go jump back up, it cracked again.

And RC was already standing over me.

I'm like, hey, get the trainers.

get the trainers.

I couldn't breathe either though.

Like real talk.

I just couldn't believe you didn't fumble that joint too.

You held onto the rock, hit your neck and scored, Debo.

That joint was unbelievable, brother.

I had a whole squad, man.

I had dudes that threw two blocks, bro.

Oh, no, for sure.

That helped me get down there.

And that was something that we ended up practicing, dude, like

that whole week, dude, in

Tampa when we were down there.

And Coach LeBo was giving us the stats on your percentages of winning if you get a turnover, if you get a defensive touchdown, dude.

It was something like it was close to 90%.

You get a defensive touchdown, dude.

So that whole week,

it didn't matter if we caught the ball and got a pick at the one-yard line.

The whole defense ran it back to the house.

Take it to the house.

They just waited for us to get back.

And, you know, practice made perfect.

It's a mindset.

Y'all went in that joint.

If somebody gets it, we're taking it back to the crib.

Yes.

No matter what.

No, we're going to pitch it back.

If we got to pitch it back, but you, nah, I'm going to get busy.

I'm going to jump over, buddy.

You know what I'm saying?

Take it up.

You know what I'm saying?

Like that, I had my running back skills come out.

You know what I'm saying?

You had it high and tight.

Like, I could have went.

I could have went either way.

At the end, I ain't going to rely.

I ain't have it high and tight no more.

I was kind of holding that mud like a loaf of bread like this.

You know what I'm saying?

I had it like this.

The crazy thing is when Fitz came off the side, if he had actually swiped down.

and just hit the ball it would have popped out

he missed and hit my chest it gave me time to cover it up brother Okay.

That was the only thing, you know what I'm saying?

That's a lot of fun.

Running back skills was in play.

You know what I'm saying?

Speaking of running backs,

we got a little thing from Thurman Thomas here.

Rather than rewarding running backs for production once their rookie contracts expire, Thurman Thomas is upset that teams are instead letting them go and moving on to the next younger and cheaper player.

He says, you still deserve a contract.

The first team you put, the first team has put you through hell, and yet I'm still ready to go.

Haven't had any injuries.

Now

give me my damn money.

It's not even receiver money.

It's like we're hanging with the punters and the kickers.

What do you think?

of the

comments first, but the use of running backs now.

like what do you think has been the change why i think they don't i mean when you look at it like they're they're getting rid of guys younger and younger if you're not one of those top five running backs you're you know they're getting you out of there bro a thousand percent and like you said jane you know what it is it's a business so if you're they're going to use you up rookie contract them first three years you know what i'm saying hopefully if you stay that the part is they you're expected to get hurt you know what i'm saying so the running backs backs.

And then you can draft a running back, they say in the second round, the third round, you can get running backs a little bit all over.

Jalen Warren, for example, he's a great running back that we didn't draft high, you know what I'm saying?

And ended up being able to sign up for the low.

So it's messed up, but understanding like Saquon Barkleys are going to be the reasons why.

Great running backs that end up just high production.

You're going to have to take a shorter term deal with guaranteed money.

These two years, fully guaranteed joints, that they're doing the two year for getting $15 million a year.

Saquon just did a two-year for $40 million extension.

Now the market, the highest paid running back is at $20 million a year.

Understanding, he got $36 guaranteed.

It's going to be more guaranteed the shorter term.

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Term deal when you start coming off your rookie contracts.

And it's just because

you're going to get this 100% injury in the NFL and they're giving you the ball all the time.

So just got to be able to get on that for a little bit.

uh shorter term deal and just bet on yourself it sucks but it's the nfl that's the way that they're going.

And they're not trying to,

it is a business.

So just keep that in perspective.

And I love the way that the Eagles and Saquon, they did it right.

You know what I'm saying?

Cook and the bills.

Just these little short-term deals with 15, 16, 17, that's solid money.

Hopefully, like when you get Saquon to put it up to 20, we get another running back that continues.

Hopefully balls out, Bijan Robinson.

Hopefully he can get up there in this next, stay healthy, get to 22.

So I see it going up.

but just knowing it's going to be more short-term deals with guaranteed money because it's a business.

You are a running back.

They can figure out they can come get you,

get you, find somebody coming out of college or get somebody for a little bit less that's going to do a lot of this good production.

When Thurman Thomas played,

it was a totally different game.

It was run heavy.

It was a physical game.

And them guys

played longer careers because.

that's what the game was.

You had a big, you know, had a big offensive line.

You had a big defensive line.

And you went out there and you tried to push the other guy around you had a big

right and if you had if you had a good running back with you a nice fullback blocking that's just what the game came to right now it is a pass heavy game dude um you know everything they want to do is for scoring

they they did things that helped by you know changing the rules to make it easier for for them to score um exactly yeah you know it's offensive base rules for for the majority of things that's going on can't touch the quarterbacks they make

yeah yeah again the wear and tear you know on a running back especially if you're paying one running back that much is it's it's hard you know you got a lot of people who are not a lot of teams you got a few teams who are now uh using you know a couple guys you know and and finding a way to get the money situated to where they can they can they can keep both.

I think Detroit is one of those people that got it to

running backs over there that really

complement each other.

You got a speed guy, you got a power guy, and

they're having some real success with their run game over there.

That's the best combination, the best running back combination, I think, in the league for sure.

Yeah.

I got to figure out how they, what their contract situation is, too, how much they make in a year, because however they finagled that, other teams need to look and see how to finagle that.

Well, you got to have, you got, here's the thing: I think you got to have guys who are willing to be like, I know what my worth is and have a realistic

number of what their worth is.

Although you want to get paid as much as you can at some point, if you're trying to do this to actually make money and for the longevity of it, the longer you can play, the more money you can make.

I think having two running backs is more beneficial for a person that is playing, you know, the running back position.

No, I think so too.

You're right.

Wear and tear on them, have half the carries, and just seeing like, as long as that money's looking good for you, you don't have to be the highest person to set the market.

But if you comfortable, your family's comfortable, you like your income, stay right there.

Keep it cruised.

You know what I'm saying?

So I don't think you need to always shake it up, always try to get out of a situation like that.

So I think for sure, we're looking at.

If I'm going to get the ball all the time, they're going to keep punishing me.

Is it worth it?

Or am I going to be able to play a little bit longer if I got another dude with me that I'm splitting carries with?

And we, you know what I'm saying, both could be here for a while.

Yeah.

Like you said, the workhorse is going to get paid.

The money's going to go up.

But as a whole, at that position, you know, it's not.

I can, I can get, I can get a guy in here that, you know, he, he hasn't had multiple surgeries on his knee.

You know, he's coming in, you know, fresh out of college.

You know, they got the rules set to where these dudes aren't getting beat up like they used to.

And now he's, and he's hungry.

You know what I'm saying?

He's ready to get in there and try and take, right, try and take your spot.

So, you know, it's easier to get that rookie rookie contract.

You get him in there for four years.

You start looking at the other, the next guy you want, you know,

a year or two before you got to get rid of him.

I mean, you're looking at the situation right now, like you said, with the Stillers.

They went and got

a top running back, and then they went and got another running back.

And who's sitting there right now with the contract?

And who did they let go?

This is a prime example of it.

What, you know, Thurman is talking about.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Exactly.

So, speaking of the Stillers, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady said that Aaron Rodgers is the most talented quarterback in NFL history.

He said, Aaron in his prime, to me, is the greatest passer of the football the league has ever seen.

He could get the ball from point A to point B faster and more accurate than any player in NFL history.

What do you think of those comments?

See, so I'm going to say that I agree and this is just before before i even when i was when i was growing up this is 2002 2003 i'm watching aaron rodgers and just from my eye test it was peyton manning and tom brady who was the better quarterback and i've like his in history like trying to get the super bowls and all that but with my eye test i thought Aaron Rodgers threw the prettiest spiral, through the best pass that I've ever seen in my life.

Just the release of it, just the placement, just the way that he threw the ball.

And that might not make him the greatest quarterback of all time with championships and super bowls that's like that's for other people to debate but from my eye test when i was watching my best favorite quarterback i ever seen throw the ball and put it in the spot was aaron rodgers and that is without before tom brady saying this this is the way i felt you know what i'm saying back in the day and i would say tom brady greater Peyton Manning may be greater, but with my eye test and how you put the ball in certain spots and spin that joint like that, I've never seen a bin it like Aaron Rodgers, in my opinion.

I would agree with you, and Tom, because

the biggest thing for me is the speed at which he gets it there with the accuracy that he gets it there.

Believe me, I seen it firsthand.

And he's throwing this thing, it looks like with the flick of a wrist, dude, when he was doing it.

And it's, it's on the money.

And it's spiraling everywhere.

Yes.

It's like, it's like, it's like three.

It's like three inches right out of your reach.

And nobody can get it but the receiver you know what i'm saying and that's coming like lightning you know what i'm saying like it's it was impressive i've been in situations that was my first quarterback i played him in my rookie season when i came out for the browns uh we played green bay and lambeau field first game my career uh first preseason game he went 10 for 10 on us and threw a touchdown.

That's when he had like Donald Driver.

He had Jordi Nelson.

You let him go 10 for 10?

He went 10 for 10 and I'm right there in the pocket, but I can't touch the ball.

The receiver can touch the ball.

Bing, right out of my.

Yes.

He caught the joint and then I tackled him.

Catch and tackle, but I'm like, oh, my, I'm right here.

Why are you still throwing it?

Oh, that's a pick.

No, it's not.

Oh, my God.

Right out of my reach.

And I'm falling, diving for the ball.

You know who I think was great, like really great at throwing you out of being able to pick the ball was Tom, dude.

You'd be like, oh, I've done broke on this.

And he would throw the ball to where it's going over your head to the receiver receiver over his shoulder.

And you

broke it.

Dude.

Yes, looping it.

Yes.

Bro.

So I know you know it's been the same.

Jordy Nelson, I'm right there.

And I'm like, he threw the fade ball and I'm right there.

And it went right over my hand.

I'm like, this dude is unbelievable.

He's trying me.

And I can't touch it.

I haven't touched the ball yet.

You couldn't even knock one down, Joe.

I didn't get no PBUs.

None, not one.

All completions.

They was catching it and I was tackling them.

I was like, oh my God.

Like this.

Write on my hand.

Oh my God.

He got it.

Tackle.

Bro, it was crazy.

How many times did you have that game, babe?

Man, how many times he threw it on me?

I had three tackles.

That man with three, you went 10 for 10.

I told you.

You went three for three on me and three good tackles.

Boom.

Low tackles.

Solid tackles, though.

You made sure, bro.

No, no, yak, though.

No yak.

zero yak.

No yak at all.

zero yak.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

That's what I'm talking about, man.

That was crazy.

It was crazy.

Where was that at?

It was in Lambeau Field, 2010.

It felt like to me, dude, he got

cold, man.

It was beautiful outside.

It was a beautiful day.

It was fucking August.

Yeah, he was whipping that thing.

Man, he was spinning that ball so well.

Yep, yep, yep.

Yeah,

that's one of those things you can't, you know, it's nothing

you can do to defend great.

No, it's about it.

No, it's not about me.

It's about Aaron.

It had nothing to do with me.

Yeah, I was all about.

I was a nameless great face.

I was a nameless great face.

He saw through me that day.

He saw through all of us.

Dude, speaking to dude about

him or nothing about you, let's roll over here to Miami, man.

I guess Miami announced that they're captains for 2025 season.

And

there was uh

no tariq on it i guess for the first time since 2022 he was not voted a captain

uh mike mcdonald and mike mcdonald had a very revealing quote he said we were focused on giving the keys to the

cap to the captains so to guys that had earned

uh-oh hold on to guys that had earned it each each and every day that's what speaks to me the most is the football team that knows who it wants to be led by

captain c to the guys i got you all right

so

with that tariq not being uh selected are you surprised uh what's your reaction to that

I ain't gonna lie to you, brother.

I'm not surprised at all.

Did you know, you remember at the end of the season

i'm trying to be out of here and you know that could definitely at the end of the season not only am i trying to be out of here this man pulled himself out the game in the third quarter come on brother so uh we acting like we acting like these are other grown men these are your teammates that are voting for the captain they seen that and like they wouldn't people just not gonna vote for that you know what i'm saying they don't feel like you all in and you said you wasn't all in i mean you apologized and everything but that's cool you still gonna be able to come in there They're going to respect you.

And as long as you go out there and work, be a small man.

I want you to work.

I want you to play every day, be on time for meetings.

And when you're out there, grind.

And when you're on the field, grind and try to be the best you can be.

Be Tyreek.

That's all I need.

I need nothing.

No more, no less.

But making you a captain.

After you said what you said, I'm not going to go in there feeling no type of way, but you can action speak louder than words.

You can show me better than you can tell me.

You coming in there, working, grinding, doing what you got to do, leading by example is what it's going to be.

But just, it's okay.

You're not a captain.

I was, I was was on the teams where I was felt like I was a leader a couple of times that I wasn't a captain.

I was never a captain when I was on the Steelers.

That's Cam Hayward, TJ.

It's going to be a certain amount of captains.

So when they come there, then you know you're still going to be a valuable part.

Just don't be bringing bad vibes.

Come in here, do your job, and it's going to be what it is.

Maybe next season, if you come in there, show leadership, do what you got to do, then you could be a captain.

But you know how that is.

You told us you got it.

Yeah, they ain't going to.

I'm not voting for you.

Yeah, I think he let

his emotional state right then

get

him into a situation that if he had just sat back and

had time to cool off and think about it, I don't think he would have did and said the same things at that point.

I mean, when you go back to it, you know, that's his first time ever not being in the playoffs, bro.

You know, his first time, I believe, having the losing season in the NFL.

So

I think it was a knee-jerk knee-jerk reaction, you know, to a situation that

he saw as a permanent

situation that may continue and was just like, yeah,

I'm going to be out of here.

Do you think

do you think it's cool, though, that he's not going to be a captain?

Do you really understand?

Do you think

you're cool with it?

Okay.

I'm 100% cool with it, dude.

I have no issue with it at all.

Like you said, the team voted that they, they,

according to them, the team voted that they

they made it to where

they spoke by who they voted for.

And, you know, that that speaks for itself.

Um, it's sometimes where, you know, some teams

you vote, but they end up picking who they want.

You know what I'm saying?

What you laughing for, Joe?

I mean, you, you, that, that, that could be, I could, that could be, could be, could be.

Yeah, I'm just saying, you know, I've heard, I've heard of it happening.

I heard, I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, I would like to hope that it's like the lottery and it's legit, but you never know.

You, you, you never know unless you see it for yourself and then you saw it and you know.

So I'm just saying it's some teams that actually do

pick who it is.

They want to be the leader for their team and sometimes they disguise it under the

you know the pretense of that's who the guys pick yeah but it's kind of hard when it comes down to you know and guys are like you pick who you pick who like who who voted for who um okay so you know saying you speak you saying you just saying i i'm i'm i'm i'm catching what you putting down you know what i'm saying but i ain't trying to you know no i'm just saying i'm just saying that you know that that happens so okay okay that's all i was saying okay yeah but him not being voted i mean he even had, you know, he even understood it.

You know what I'm saying?

He took accountability, you know, for what he said.

He, he's not surprised that he wasn't voted captain.

Yeah.

You know, he knows he's going to have to go in there and earn these guys', you know, trust back and

all that.

You know, you say that.

You're basically saying that you don't want to be with us no more because we trash.

Like you can't, you can't say that because you're not saying like.

us you're saying like it's you joe you're trash i don't want to be here i need to get out of here because i can go and do way more without y'all you know what i'm saying yeah he's telling y'all are trash i'm

i've won on other teams i need to go back i was in kansas city they were better than y'all i need to go back yes that's what they felt like for sure now we skip on over to dallas man trayvon diggs has finally came out and defended micah saying that he felt everyone in dallas current locker room like micah and thinks the rumors likely came from former Cowboys.

He said, I think everyone liked him.

I feel like there are some former players who are not here no more who didn't like Micah.

There was a lot of us, I would say,

there was a lot of, I would say, hate, jealousy, envy towards him because of who he is and the production he does on the field.

Imagine if you came in here and you're thinking and you're taking somebody else, so you're taking somebody's shine or taking somebody's spot.

You're not going to like that.

They're going to feel a type of way, especially if you're that type of person.

Ooh, that sounds like shots fired.

It does.

You name any names, but I mean, do you think this was referring to Demarcus Lawrence?

Oh,

I mean,

that sounds about right they were saying you take somebody's spot

they was I don't

I'm just asking a question I ain't look that's what I don't know I don't my name Bennett and I ain't in it but I mean the descriptions of what he's saying it says I think everyone liked him I feel like there's some former players who are not here

no more

who didn't like Micah.

There was a lot of, I would would say, hate, jealousy, envy, those are personal words towards him because of who he is and the production he does on the field.

So imagine if you came in here and you're taking somebody's shine.

So he took somebody, he was taking somebody's shine, right?

And taking somebody's spot.

You're not going to like that, right?

No.

You're going to feel a type of way, especially if you're that type of person.

Now he's saying that person is that type of person, too.

So I don't, I'm just asking a question to you.

Like, do you think he was referring to anybody in specific, maybe

Demarcus Lawrence?

Or you, I don't know.

Did you think yes or no?

This, this, this is what I think.

Could it possibly be?

That's what I'm saying.

It sounds like he's talking about somebody to play defensive end because he said taking his spot.

So if we're going to go from there,

previous defensive end that did there.

I would say I love Trevon Diggs coming out because nobody's really came out in defense of Micah Parsons.

I know that these dudes kick it.

They hang out.

That's his boy.

So from Trayvon's perspective, it could be literally what it is.

Like, that's my mans.

We cool.

Trayvon also has his bag and knows that Micah Parsons out there balling deserves his bag.

He's been playing with me.

We've been doing this together.

So he's out there, I think, trying to defend for his mans.

I don't know of the person that's not on the team anymore, but it sounds like another defensive end that was there that

maybe,

Debo, say, it's like, yeah, obviously.

You know what I'm saying?

Like the same situation where we have, it's like you and TJ come in where he's like, they not, maybe they didn't tell DeMarcus.

Maybe they tried to play with him a little bit.

You know what I'm saying?

Like they tried to play with you and TJ a little bit.

You know what I'm saying?

Like that's probably, probably how it was and the marcus don't play that so he's probably vocalized how he felt you know what I'm saying and I think that some of that stuff it doesn't have nothing to do with maybe Micah and

Micah and his relationship as much as he thinks with uh Demarcus and the Cowboys organization you know what I'm saying he might have talked to them maybe not rocking oh you drafted this dude oh who what do y'all think is going on i'm just trying to go from devil's advocate because there's always two sides of the story i don't know what happened with micah i don't know what happened with demarcus with Trayvon, what he's saying.

I'm just trying to put pieces of the puzzle, but I just sounding like

the puzzle kind of

fitting, you know, the pieces is fitting, you know, when you line it up.

So I think it's a possibility.

Will I give a definite yes or no?

No, I can't do that.

No, that's not.

We can't do that.

That would not be that would be disingenuous

to the argument.

come on debo right exactly right

so now

speaking of micah parsons uh dan campbell said dan campbell we know what kind of player michael parsons is we'll have a plan does micah parsons put the packers over the lions in the nfc norf do you think

i mean

i mean it helps them out a lot I mean,

I don't see why not.

I mean,

the Packers are not a bad team.

Jordan Love has been playing really good.

They beat.

They did good last season.

And with just adding another defensive player, that's going to help out their secondary.

That's going to help out their pass rush.

And I don't think they have nowhere to go but up since Jordan Love with another year under his belt.

He's done nothing but prove to me that he can actually be a franchise quarterback.

So if he can be a franchise quarterback and Micah Parsons can help that defense out because they they don't look bad.

They look like they're on the up and up.

They're drafting well.

They're moving in the right direction.

So, Packers are up for me.

And, like I said before, I've seen them.

They made a Reggie White trade with a quarterback.

They made a Charles Woodson trade with the quarterback.

And now they got Jordan Love.

And then they made this Michael Parsons trade.

I'm liking them dudes knowing when they need to get a crazy piece on defense because they have a franchise quarterback.

So I think the Packers look like they know what they're doing.

Yeah, I'm going to

go with.

I think it puts the Packers

as the

guys in NFC North right now.

You added in a pass rusher.

The games that, you know, they've played over the last year or two have been close games.

When you take into account, you know, that

the

Lions, I believe, lost their O and D coordinator to head coaching positions.

You got to change right there.

You got Hutchinson coming back off of, you know, messing up his leg.

You got to build that confidence at going out there, especially, you know, how he ended up messing his leg up.

He swung around.

So you got to get used to it.

How long that's going to take?

I hit and swing around.

He's back full 100%, but to get out there in live action when those bodies are flying around is a little different.

But I think, you know, having Micah there and you add him in there with

the current defensive line that they have, I think it puts him over the top.

These three-point games,

you know, that's going to go ahead and actually

change where it's a sack fumble now.

That three-point game can be a switch from, you know, a loss to a win of three points or six points or seven points, whatever that may be.

They're going to be a game changer.

Yes, definite game changer.

Like, it's no quarter.

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Question about it.

Yeah.

So now let's get back to our stillers.

Then, okay.

What you want, what you want, what you want to hit?

Tell me what I want to talk about.

Your man, Adam Scheffler.

Schefter

is talking about Cam Hayward, maybe sitting out for the season opener.

Cam sitting out for the season, what's going on over there?

Give me,

I don't know.

I don't, I'm, I would, I think he got two years left on this contract, don't he?

He just signed a two-year extension.

He got two more years left.

I think he signed it.

He signed a two-year extension last offseason, which gave him this year and next year for contracts.

So he got this year.

Oh, he has a deal for next year.

So last offseason, he signed a two-year extension because he only had one year left on his deal.

So then he played that.

And now he has this one and next year from the extension he signed last year.

Yeah, so he did say out a portion of training camp and didn't rule out sitting the start of the regular season until he gets what he wants.

Hayward was practicing with the team on Monday, which suggests he's going to play, but Adam Scheffner says there's still a possibility Cam Hayward doesn't suit up.

They're not,

they haven't, they have not been able to figure it out.

And so I would think it's going to be really interesting to see if Cam Hayward is on the practice field on Wednesday as the Stillers get ready for their

season, as the Stillers get ready to open their season on Sunday against the Jets.

It's about to get interesting there.

And again,

maybe Cam Hayward says, I'm not going to play on this deal.

It didn't sound that way earlier in the summer, but we'll find out.

What the deal looked like, Joe?

What's the deal on the deal?

The deal was two years, 29 million.

So first year, this season, this year he'll be making 14.7.

And next year, he'll be making like 14.2.

So I think he's looking, I mean,

I love the Steelers because, I mean, this is going to be Cam's going to new year, what, 13, year, 13, 14.

So, I mean, his production and everything, I understand what he's saying has not slipped.

So there's defensive tackles.

I think it's up there, bro.

We got defensive ends, obviously, now, $47 million a year with Micah Parsons.

We got TJ White at 41.

We got

Miles Garrett at 40.

And he's kind of looking at it with him making 14.7 Pro Bowls and all that stuff.

Like just like, maybe they don't deserve double what I'm getting.

I mean, maybe they deserve double of what I'm getting, not triple.

So he's making 14.6.

Maybe Cam just wants a little $6 million bonus, you know what I'm saying, to make it around 20 million.

But he did sign the extension.

I can see where the Steelers are coming from where, man, Cam, this is going to be year 13, year 14.

We got 14.7.

We got 14.2 the next two years.

You're good.

You're good for good.

We're giving you real bread.

So I can see where they're coming from.

And then with Cam as the player, as production-wise, what he has done is a little up from what his, what his contract is making, but you can see how it's a little bit of both.

This is like his fifth contract with the Steelers, and it's not a bad deal.

Like

a defensive tackle on year 13, 14, making 14, 7, 14, 2.

Those are good numbers.

Those are good numbers.

you know what i'm saying so it's not a disrespectful thing but for cam being the player knowing this is going to be kind of his way out trying to get as much as he possibly can because it is a business he knows if he was playing bad they might have did some other stuff they might have

easily he could have they could have just let him slide you know what i'm saying but he knows the reason why he is still there is because of his production it's not no friendly stuff it is because you know what i'm saying i'm performing on the field so yeah i just i don't know what it is that makes me think that he's he's not going to sit out unless, I tell you what,

I see Cam sitting out only if in his head, he's saying, I'll retire if you don't give me what I want.

That's the only way I see him sitting out.

Cause if you sit out

like

you got two years on your deal, what you go do?

sit out till it's over with for a couple years yeah and that's i think the only way he he he would sit

is if the thought process is if i don't get what i want i'm not going to play for this and i'll just retire because it's not worth it for me to do it at this number and put my body through whatever it is that i need to do yeah to get ready and stay ready for the season that's the only way i see him actually

he kind of playing this year is that he says that sounds like that sounds like a like a like an aaron donald like an an Aaron Donald, knowing end of the day, he can walk away unless he gets, well, unless he gets the number he wants.

If he doesn't feel like $14 million a year, touching taxes of $8 million to go to this thing, where he's like, no, I should be making $20, I could tuck $10, $11, like $12 million, you know what I'm saying, after the season, then it's just really, he's good.

You know what I'm saying?

I mean, that sounds crazy to say, but being able to be in Cam and be in the position that he is, like with his body, with his family,

not wanting to do it, that would be, I think, think, like you said, that'd be the way being able to sit out and be like this.

I'm willing to walk away, but I think Cam still ready to play, still wants to go.

And if you do play, Cam, you still got another 30 M's, you know what I'm saying, coming in these next two seasons.

So I would hunker down.

Yeah, I would.

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

I did it for way less, baby.

You know what I'm saying?

But, you know,

I wasn't trying to count anything else, but what, you know, was good enough for me to go out there and

play and be okay with it.

So 1,000%.

And

that's on Cam.

He knows this number.

He knows what's going to make him good and what he feels like he deserves.

So more power to him because that's my good man.

He's a baller.

Hopefully everything works out for sure.

Hopefully it works out.

Even if it don't, hopefully it still works out.

You know what I'm saying?

Look, we be talking about my man taking 14-7 or getting some more money.

So it's just, it's a win-win.

No question.

So Matthew Stafford will start the season opener against the Texans.

Will Stafford finish the season as he deals with the aggravated disc in his back?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I love Matthew Stafford, man.

I played against him since he was at Georgia and I was at Florida.

He had A.J.

Green there.

So we had some battles ever since 2008.

So I love his game.

He also has a cannon of an arm, great competitor, plays hurt.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, I really, really love his game.

But you know, that thing, that, that, that health, that thing is always going to catch up with you.

Can't nobody run away from that.

So I think as long as his line tries to keep him upright, but he's a gangster.

He's going to stay in the pocket.

He's going to stare down the barrel.

So, I mean, it's just, I don't know.

Depending on what

it looks like, I don't know.

I think as long

as he doesn't have a catastrophic event where it like just totally herniates, he'll be able to make it.

Because I myself went through a whole 14 weeks all the way up to the Super Bowl

where

I had

herniate diss in my

back.

And

it was the year, it was the year we ended up losing to

Green Bay in the Super Bowl.

So I'm sitting there, dude, and you know, as the as the beginning of the week goes on, you know, I'm taking the T-shot and

the T-shot would make it go away.

So I would play, you know, my first game, it was cool, you know, second game, it was a cool third game, I took the T-shot and I'm like, yo, I can still feel something.

So I believe it was the fourth game came along and they wasn't touching it no more.

I'm like, yo.

Like, y'all got to check out what's going on.

I'm getting these pains down my legs.

Like, you know, I'm getting the sciatic pain.

I'm getting this stinging pain in my, in my Achilles, Achilles you know all that

and you know it got to the point to where you know I was playing and I go to step on that foot to turn the corner dude and my whole leg just boom gone oh no I just fall right

so they did an MRI they do the MRI I go in and

they're like get the MRI report and doc like yo you need to come in so I go in and he's testing me out and he's like, James, you know, just looking at your back, you know, I would say that you, you need to have something done right now.

He said, but you, you know, you're testing out strong and all that.

And I'm like, yeah, I'm strong when I'm strong, but when it ain't, it's gone.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

So basically, it was an option of get the surgery now.

You're out six weeks, right?

Or get the surgery after the season.

So I'm like, well, let's just get the surgery now, man.

You know what I'm saying?

Okay.

Well, end up talking to, you know, I guess the training staff and everything else and whatever.

And they're like, well, let's just go until you know

you can't go anymore.

Right.

So I'm like, all right, cool.

I'm like, I'm willing to do it anyway.

You know what I'm saying?

I want to play.

I want to win.

I want to help my team.

You know what I'm saying?

Because I looked at my dudes, his family.

You know what I'm saying?

That's 100%.

What year was this?

This was 2010, man.

But

the year before they locked us out.

So

I go and and i'm playing and dude i had two times where you know i had one time they had to come get me i couldn't get out the bed bro i had two times where i actually got a epidural dude on uh like a

pregnancy epidural yes so they they take they take and um they do it you know uh fluoroscope got it and they go to the site where the discs is and they inject uh cortisone and some numbing stuff uh sorry uh cortisone.

Yeah, cortisone and some numbing stuff.

So when they hit it, it's like, boom.

I'm like, oh, because it's taking that pressure off of the nerve that the disc is pressing on.

So it was my, it was my S1 L5, L5, L4.

It was my lumbar.

So it was pressing all those nerves.

That's why I was getting a sciatic.

And that's why, you know, a couple of times my leg just dropped and give out on them.

You know what I'm saying?

I lose power and all that.

Yeah, yeah.

So

I go and I, you know, I play through it.

You know, but you played the whole season with that being able to go.

I played, I played, yeah, I played 12 weeks with it being able.

And I also was getting a lot of soft tissue work.

So I was doing things like, you know, I was getting dry needle.

So I was getting my pair of spinals needle, which is the muscles in between your spine to make sure that, you know, I was able to.

Keep that as loose as possible so it didn't squeeze down on that nerve, right?

What was your practice schedule like?

Did you practice normal, bro?

Practice normal.

I practice normal.

I didn't change nothing about my practice bro like i like i love to practice because i'm not a person that could sit there and look at a scheme i need to be out there doing it i need to feel what i'm gonna get no no for sure

so i go through i go through that that that whole thing man i get through the season and um

we get done we lose the super bowl right so i'm sitting there and i'm like okay

They're like, well, you know, let's go ahead and do the surgery.

Now, I'm like, you know, let's hold off.

You said it's a possibility that it could retract back, whatever, da, da, da, da, right.

So they're like, ah,

well, they're about to lock us out.

I don't know if you want to wait that long.

And,

you know, it's kind of close to the nerves that control your bowel and bladder function.

I said, what that means?

Well, if

you get pissed and poop on yourself,

I thought it meant.

I'm like, so you got to do this.

I could have been shot

back 12 weeks ago like come on so

ended up getting the surgery and here's the crazy thing is like i know my body so well bro that i'm sitting there and i'm

like seven days out of surgery and i'm like doc hey something ain't right i'm still feeling a little little something on there like oh it might be you know trans oh it might be swelling or whatever

i'm like no it ain't swelling i know my body man it's not so they had me go do another MRI.

He come back in.

He said, yeah, we got to go back in.

We didn't get it all.

So what they missed, Debo, they had to go up another level.

He was trying to be conservative and keep as much diss in there as he could, but he couldn't.

So we went back in.

So I had two back surgeries in nine days and didn't

do none of my therapy with the team.

because they locked us out.

So I did all my therapy with my trainer in Arizona.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

And I, dude, I think that was the best thing that ever happened.

He took care of you.

Yes, definitely, dude.

Definitely.

I know guys that had it done.

And

I think one or two guys had it done the same year I did.

And neither one of them played more than two more years after that.

I played another seven.

So, you know, I did the right thing to take care of my body to make sure that I actually helped fix what was causing the issue.

That's like a lot of guys who go and have these knee issues and they say, oh, well, you know, it's just wear and tear.

Well, it ain't wear and tear.

It's probably a muscle, especially when it's in your knee.

It's a muscle that's somewhere in your quad, your hamstring, even in your calf that's not firing the same.

So if you fix that firing of the mechanism of the muscle, the knee now works in that same groove correctly and you don't get the wear and tear.

But what they do is they treat the symptom.

The symptom is that it's now not moving correctly and the symptom is it's now shaving off cartilage.

So, what do they do?

They go in there, drain your knee, or they scope it down instead of actually fixing the problem.

That's a good problem.

Yeah,

that's the band-aids on stuff.

Right, right, right.

So, I think it's a possibility as long as he has a good team behind him that he could, he could finish the year, like I said, bearing any real, you know, catastrophic,

you know, thing that would cause it to actually totally herniate or die for people ruptured.

That's just, man, that's that's his left tackle, making sure he don't get blown by.

And he, Matthew Stafford,

it's so easy to get that back blown out.

I'm telling you, man, that quarterback, man, the quickest way Matthew Staff would be out of there is a blind side.

So Vegas has Lamar Jackson as the top for the MVP odds.

Raining MVP, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and there,

I can't see that word.

Harris beneath, beyond

him are plus 600.

And Patrick Mahomes rounding out the top four at plus 650.

Ooh.

Is this the year Lamar Jackson puts it all together and not only wins the MVP, but puts up the Lombardi trophy, brother?

What do you think?

So, you know, obviously, we in the North play for the Steelers.

That's why I'm saying no.

I'm hating.

Browns, I know you're going to hate.

I'm going to hate.

I'm from Maryland.

You know what I'm saying?

So honestly, this is my thing.

Patrick Mahomes has so many of the rings.

He's controlling the AFC North.

I love him.

I love Patrick Mahomes, too.

He's a good man, him and Trav.

But what I want.

is Lamar.

I just don't want people to keep disrespecting Lamar's greatness.

And I don't think if he doesn't get a Super Bowl ring, then people won't understand how great Lamar Jackson really is and what he's really doing in this league so i mean he's going to mvp odds every season regular season they're going to ball out lamar jackson has his legs he's quick he's fast he's going to do lamar jackson things the whole season and they got a solid defense too you think he's going to get that lombardi this year

i thought for real it was last year so this year i'm going to say no

I thought last year was the year.

They looked so good.

I was honestly quietly rooting.

I was rooting for him.

I was rooting for Lamar.

But then last year, when I was like, This,

what happened?

It just didn't.

It just didn't happen.

Yeah, it seemed like they get into the playoffs and it's

health issues with guys not being there.

And then they just unravel.

I don't know.

And I don't know what it is.

I don't know what it is going on.

Won it for him.

I don't.

Yeah.

But I ain't gonna lie.

I would rather anybody else win it

except for Cleveland, Cincinnati, or Baltimore.

I was okay.

I know what you're saying, but

I know what you're saying, bro.

I'm hating.

I ain't gonna lie to you, man.

I think we're about out of time, man.

Listen, you gotta be honest.

Be honest.

Obviously, you don't want them to win.

No question.

That is no question, bro.

No question.

Listen, like we, like I said, we're about out of time, man.

Want to thank you guys for joining us for this podcast of Deepo and Joe.

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Make sure you subscribe to Debo and Joe, or I'm going to have Debo.

Yo.

I don't even know what this is, but I think that's my son's way of putting up three.

Now, I told him to put it up like that, but I don't know if he's listening, but this is three now.

I seen it in a movie where it got a dude killed.

Because he was supposed to put up three,

but he put up three like this.

And they knew that that wasn't the right three because that area, they put up three like this.

So they knew he was a spy.

You gotta got shot up.

All right, now y'all have a good one.

We'll get back to you on Friday.

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