Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Commanders beating Giants + the Dolphins TERRIBLE performance against the Colts

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Speaker 1 Washington ran the football extremely well today. 32 rush attempts, 220 yards, two touchdowns.
You see Krosky,

Speaker 1 I I forget his last name. Jaden Daniels had 11 for 68, the

Speaker 1 10 for 82 and a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Eckler was 6-26, but they ran the ball extremely well. And then you get Malik, Jaden Daniels, 19-32-33 and a touchdown.
He was sacked three times,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 clean game, no turnovers. And that's what, look, in order for

Speaker 1 the commanders to be the type of team that they're going to be, Jaden Daniels is going to have to play like this, legs and arm,

Speaker 1 and not turn the ball over. Give them guys a chance and let that defense hunt.
They got some guys that can get after the quarterback. You know, they got

Speaker 1 Louvo over there. They got Ken Law.
They got Deron Payne. Remember, Ocho, they brought in Von Miller.
Von, yeah.

Speaker 1 So they got some guy.

Speaker 10 Marshawn Lettimore?

Speaker 1 Yeah. They got some guys over there

Speaker 1 that can get after the quarterback and make it very, very difficult. They just got to do a great job of taking care of the football and let Jaden Daniels and Jaden's got to do what Jaden Daniel does.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 look,

Speaker 1 guys,

Speaker 1 it's one game and they already are we going to see Jackson Dart? Are we going to damn after one game? I do think the over-under is eight before Jackson Dart is in there.

Speaker 1 Damn, y'all asking this after the first game? Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 You know what?

Speaker 10 I wonder how much freedom Russell has to be able to change. Obviously, plays come in based on what he sees defensively.

Speaker 10 Does he have the freedom to change things to make it a little easier for him to be able to, you know, change the plays?

Speaker 10 Obviously, sometimes, you know, when you played, obviously when I played, when Carson would get plays, when plays would come in

Speaker 10 one play, but he has the freedom to be able to change the play based on what he sees.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 10 Whether it's a run play, if it's tossed right, but you know what? You know, we're going to go dive left based on based on the defense, based on the adjustment, based on what I see with my own eyes.

Speaker 10 Yeah. I have the experience.
I wonder if Russell has that freedom to do so.

Speaker 10 When the play comes in, he actually has to stick exactly with what it's called because based on the play calling, from what I saw today,

Speaker 10 it's like it's

Speaker 10 hindering Russ from being able to do some of the things that he does well.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm not so sure he had that ability. He probably hadn't had that.
I don't know if he ever had it in Seattle, maybe later in Seattle.

Speaker 1 He definitely didn't have it with Sean Payton. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 And I'm not so sure he had it last year with

Speaker 1 Arthur Smith. no

Speaker 1 so the likelihood of him coming in there and having that kind of control now ocho right doesn't seem likely but hey

Speaker 1 they just need to play better uh we're not going to put all this on russ no uh although he was uh uh less than 50 completion percentage uh

Speaker 1 and then uh neighbors it seemed like i i don't know what that was about what did neighbors and and day ball was trying to get him to go back in the game he was talking to him trying to get but uh neighbors seemed like he was like man i'm i'm done with this yeah he frustrated he frustrated frustrated.

Speaker 10 He frustrated. Listen, players like that.
I say this with AJ Brown too.

Speaker 10 When the Eagles played, having to wait all the way to the third quarter, nine minutes in the third quarter to even touch the ball. You have a player that is special as Malik Neighbors.

Speaker 10 You get him the ball early.

Speaker 10 It don't have to be nothing crazy.

Speaker 10 Throw him a little smoke route. Throw him a screen route.
Give him a reverse. Let him feel like he's involved in the game instead of out there getting all that goddamn cardio.

Speaker 1 Get it to him early.

Speaker 1 and you will have him late.

Speaker 10 All game.

Speaker 1 That's what you should do.

Speaker 1 What you should do and what they actually do is not always the case.

Speaker 1 But you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right, Ocho, is that

Speaker 1 when you're dealing with these

Speaker 1 number one receivers, you got to give them something early in the first quarter.

Speaker 1 I mean, just ain't nobody asking, you know, to ask Jordan or to ask Steph Curry or ask one of these great players, look, we don't want you to take a shot into the third quarter.

Speaker 1 No, no, just you do, hey, everything, just run around out here, Steph, you just run around off these picks and do all this stuff, and we're going to run, you know, hey, all that we're going to do, but don't take no shot to the third quarter.

Speaker 1 As a matter of fact, we ain't going to let you take no shot to the fourth quarter and see how that work out.

Speaker 1 But y'all want the receivers to get out there and run and just like just run and just run and just run. And they don't get no action, don't get no ball thrown away.

Speaker 1 And then that come fourth quarter, hey, here we come.

Speaker 1 Come to do what?

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 10 mentally, unite, mentally united. No, you're not.
It's hard. It's a struggle.
It's a struggle.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 They got the Cowboys. The Cowboys, like, hey, we let one slip away last week.
We ain't about to let one slip away this week. Cowboys might drop.

Speaker 1 I know it's a division game, Ocho. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Cowboys might try to drop 50 on the Giants.

Speaker 10 50?

Speaker 10 Damn.

Speaker 1 Yep, I'm trying to.

Speaker 10 Hey,

Speaker 10 what was Neighbor's numbers today, Uncle?

Speaker 1 He had five for 71 on 12 targets.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's not bad. Martell Robinson had

Speaker 1 six for 55 on eight targets.

Speaker 10 That's not bad.

Speaker 10 That's not bad. I mean, you know, look good.

Speaker 10 A little slow day at the office.

Speaker 10 Not what you like.

Speaker 1 I mean, ain't nobody go crazy at the receiver position, but Zay Flowers.

Speaker 10 Yeah, Zay was the only one.

Speaker 10 Hey, Zay be killing that slot, boy.

Speaker 10 Oh, he be killing that slot. And it's the same route over and over.
They're either that shallow or that deep over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, oh, yeah, that's the thing, yeah.

Speaker 1 Because you got to honor it because they hold because Lamar stick it in there, you think Henry, so you hold just for a second, and by the time you realize that he's already passed the matter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 What you think?

Speaker 1 You think there's some there's some tread on the tires with Russ?

Speaker 1 Me personally, Ocho, I don't think he can, I don't think he's going to start the whole year. You know, you and I, we had a bet over under eight games.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be under eight games, and Jackson Dart's going to be in there. I do.
I think.

Speaker 10 honestly based on

Speaker 10 what he has around him is all going to come down to his offensive line if you give russ time you give you give us time to be able to process

Speaker 10 and and allow him to make the decisions with the ball i think he's going to be all right if they can

Speaker 10 if if they can get a running game going take some of the pressure off of russ as well which obviously helps with the pass game. I think they're going to be all right.

Speaker 10 But so many different factors have to go right for Russ to be able to succeed because he's not the Russ of of old, he's not the Russell Wilson with the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 10 That at one point he can make something out of nothing. As you get older, you need more help from those that are around you.
And

Speaker 10 I'm not sure the New York Giant team is built with the right personnel where he can be able to succeed like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's

Speaker 1 a lot of Russ

Speaker 1 was

Speaker 1 outside, was off script.

Speaker 1 Yes. Improvisation, you know, Russ was a magician with the ball.
Yeah. Pump faking and

Speaker 1 flicking the ball over guys and finding ways.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have that athleticism anymore.

Speaker 1 Like you said, I think in order for him to be at his absolute best, things have to be perfect. And you know, the likelihood of things being perfect more times than not,

Speaker 1 it ain't gonna happen.

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Speaker 10 So you say eight games. You think Jackson Dart?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think, yeah, I think over under eight games and Jackson Dart will be in there.

Speaker 10 Damn.

Speaker 1 I mean, Ocho, I mean, you got to think about it. This is his third team in three years.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because, yeah, he went from Broncos to the Steelers, Steelers to the Giants.

Speaker 1 Man, Ocho, you, because you know, when you start bouncing around like that, Ocho, when you start bouncing around like that, you know how they see you.

Speaker 10 On the back end, yeah. On the back end,

Speaker 10 that's what normally happens. But obviously, he's on one-year deals.
When he's with the Steelers. When he came in, obviously, he was injured.
Justin Fields took over, did really well.

Speaker 10 Well, hell, when Russell Wilson did get the opportunity to get back in there after coming back from injury,

Speaker 10 he went on a five, six, what, seven-game, seven-seven like seven, yeah. You're seven, seven in a row, and then obviously the bottom fell out after that.
But damn, I don't know, I don't know,

Speaker 1 and plus, plus Nathaniels, Ocho, they bought no jobs on the line.

Speaker 10 Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 How that's gonna look, Ocho. I draft a guy that I don't get to coach.

Speaker 1 Hold on. So, if I so if I don't play Jackson Dart, there's a great chance I'm never gonna coach him.

Speaker 10 Well, hell, if you do play Jackson Dart and things don't go well, hell, you still ain't gonna be able to coach him.

Speaker 1 But I got I got a year, I drafted him.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's like you, you a you building a house and get a divorce, and the wife living in it. You ain't even get to live in the house, Ocho.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I just think the thing is that they're going to turn the dart sooner than later.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 probably four or five games, Ocho, you'll know.

Speaker 1 You look at your division,

Speaker 1 you'll see where Philly, you'll see what Washington, you'll see what Dallas is. You look around the league like, oh, man, we already

Speaker 1 out of this.

Speaker 1 We might as well go ahead and start building towards the future. Right.

Speaker 1 At some point in time, Ocho,

Speaker 1 I got to start hoarding a a bottle of water and canned tuna.

Speaker 1 Doomsday

Speaker 1 is here.

Speaker 10 I know,

Speaker 10 I don't want the fans out there in New York to overreact. It is week one.
I think we being a little too,

Speaker 10 we jumping the gun a little too much.

Speaker 1 It's week one.

Speaker 10 Who the Giants got next, huh?

Speaker 1 Cowboys.

Speaker 10 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Ocho, you do realize they took this man number one. They took Jackson Dart number one, right? Yeah.
What did they take him number one for?

Speaker 1 To start.

Speaker 1 And you, and you got a jerk. What people would consider Russ Not is a journeyman quarterback.

Speaker 10 Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Obviously, and you know, you know what? With that journeyman, we talk about a Super Bowl winning journeyman who has good experience, who has good success in NFL.

Speaker 1 Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl and was Super Bowl MVP. How do people look at him? What is he?

Speaker 10 Journeyman.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 10 But again, Russell Wilson is starting for a reason. What better person for Jackson Dart to sit behind and learn the game from than someone that's already accomplished what he has?

Speaker 10 I could be wrong, or you can throw caution to win and throw Jackson Dart out there to the sharks.

Speaker 10 And what happened? What normally happens to young quarterbacks when you throw them out there to the sharks and they don't play well and they start losing confidence?

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Well, if it got, I mean,

Speaker 1 it's tough tough

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 that's why I think it's going to be, I don't think it'll be in the next couple of weeks, but I think by week six, week seven, you kind of know. Right.
And we just got to move forward. And

Speaker 1 once we make this decision, OJO, it ain't no turning back now.

Speaker 10 There ain't no turning back. Once you do that, ain't no turning back.
But

Speaker 10 that's why I say it wouldn't happen that soon.

Speaker 10 It wouldn't happen that soon because once they do make that decision, Jackson Dart is the quarterback for the foreseeable future unless things just completely don't pan out, similar to that of Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 Oh, Joe, you have been on a road trip.

Speaker 1 Look here, okay now, I'm going to drive. And once I drive,

Speaker 1 I ain't stopping. Right.

Speaker 1 So once we gas up, get everything you need, get water, get your, get your, get your, you know, get your goodies, whatever.

Speaker 10 Use the bathroom, all that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 Because what? Hey, I ain't stopping.

Speaker 1 So I think because once you make the decision to go to Jackson Dart, it ain't no turning back, Ocho.

Speaker 1 It ain't no turning back.

Speaker 1 You just got to ride. You got to ride the storm out with him.
So.

Speaker 1 Speaking of awful offensive performances, the Colts beat the Dolphins 33-8.

Speaker 1 Tua completed 14-23, 114 yards and a touchdown, but threw two interceptions, lost the fumble, his second multi-turnover game in his past three starts to a QBA rating, was a passer rating with 51.7, was the lowest of his career in a game that he did not leave early.

Speaker 1 Today marked the fewest passing yards in such a game since week 18 of 2021. Ocho, he looked awful.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 10 I watched the game.

Speaker 10 I had the Dolphins game on, nice and big up there in the sports book. And

Speaker 10 I expected more.

Speaker 10 I expected more. I expected more from the Dolphins in general.

Speaker 10 I see the direction in which they are going, going young, letting Jalen Ramsey go. Obviously,

Speaker 10 Minka Fitzpatrick being there, being the lone veteran back there in that secondary.

Speaker 10 We got to do something. We got to do something at the quarterback position and finding a way where we can have some type of consistency to give us a chance.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 10 give us consistency to give us a chance.

Speaker 10 We'll go 0-16, 0-17. How many games? It is 17.
We'll go 0-17, man. Playing like we played today.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 hold on, let me, I'm trying to find this. Boy, y'all was terrible.
I was like, oh, my gosh.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it was bad. It was bad.
It was bad. And I didn't expect Daniel Jones to look like he looked.

Speaker 10 I didn't expect Daniel Jones to look like he he looked.

Speaker 1 Man, they had a thing up there. They said Daniel Jones looked like Peyton Manning, and Russell Wilson looked like Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 Man, y'all, but they were terrible. Oh, here it is right here.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think it was the first time they had scored on three consecutive possessions since Peyton Manning in 2006.

Speaker 10 Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 Okay, so yeah,

Speaker 1 they started the game. Oh, they scored.
They kicked the field goal. They scored a touchdown.
Scored a touchdown. Kicked the field goal.
Scored a touchdown. Kicked another field goal.

Speaker 1 I mean, damn, hold on. So they got one, two, three, four, five, six.
They scored on six of their first six possessions. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then listen.

Speaker 1 Two will look bad, don't you?

Speaker 1 And then, and then, and then, and, and, and Reek was frustrated. Yeah.
He's like,

Speaker 1 it's tough, man. It's tough.
It's tough. It's tough.

Speaker 10 But listen, we're doing over-unders.

Speaker 10 You think if things continue to go like this?

Speaker 1 We already had this conversation this summer. You told me they would trade Reek.

Speaker 10 If things continue to go like this, being that

Speaker 10 they're going younger, as you can see, letting Jalen go, they're resetting, they're rebuilding.

Speaker 10 There could be a chance. There are many, many suitors that can use Tyreek.

Speaker 1 Many,

Speaker 10 still one of the the best in the game.

Speaker 10 Don't be fooled because things aren't going right collectively as a cohesive offense over there with the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Chad, y'all remember me and Ocho had this conversation? And he laughed at me and talked about what you talk about.

Speaker 10 Yeah, because I expected them to look completely different as opposed to what I saw today.

Speaker 10 Now, there's a chance they can bounce back. There's a chance they can bounce back after today's performance because that was oh.

Speaker 1 They don't look good defensively, though, Ocho.

Speaker 10 I mean, our identity was never our defense anyway. It was our offensive.

Speaker 1 Okay, so offensively, you got sacked three times, you threw two picks, and you fumble.

Speaker 1 So, what's your identity now?

Speaker 1 You probably got bags leaving your face because you don't want nobody to know who you are.

Speaker 10 That was bad, boy.

Speaker 1 That was bad.

Speaker 10 But all you can do, all you could do, go back to the drawing table, you go in there Monday, you watch film, you take Tuesday off,

Speaker 10 go hit the cold tub, hit the hot tub, and you get back to work Wednesday.

Speaker 10 But who the Dolphins got? Because I'm sure whoever the next game is, it's a winnable game.

Speaker 1 I don't know who they got.

Speaker 10 Chad, who the Dolphins got next?

Speaker 1 His QB rating was 2.7.

Speaker 10 God damn.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 That's real.

Speaker 1 That ain't even good. That's a good GPA.
I mean, that's a C.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got the pass.

Speaker 10 Okay, we good. We good.
We good.

Speaker 10 We good.

Speaker 1 You do realize, hey, Hal Lander had two and a half sacks today. I don't know.
They might get y'all, Locho.

Speaker 10 Nah, nah, we good. Listen, the Raiders, the Raiders just beat the pass today.
The Raiden beat the pass today. Gino was at the goddamn dealing.

Speaker 10 And if we're going to have a rebound game to get that bad taste out of our mouth against the Colts, a game that... Obviously, you would think we should have won, but we did.

Speaker 10 Because Danny Dines was dealing today. He was dealing.

Speaker 10 jonathan taylor was doing his thing as well i think we we beat the patriots you beat the patriots and all of them they playing in miami yes oh man we got this we got this we good

Speaker 1 we good y'all not good ocho

Speaker 10 we unkn you onk it's week one

Speaker 1 it's week one i don't care if y'all played like this in week 10 y'all look bad

Speaker 1 Did you look bad? Yes or no? Yeah, we look bad. We look bad.

Speaker 10 I'm just being honest.

Speaker 10 But you know, this is the nfl now you know you know one week you look bad the next week well where the hell this come from it happens it's possible it's it is it is but that i think the thing is that's concerning for me ocho is your quarterback has to play well he has to stay healthy and it's like it is like now ocho anytime he get hit the ball come out yeah you got you know ocho hold on he got the ball out here you got to have that ball you got to have two hands on that ball just in case because you can't see everything around you.

Speaker 10 Anytime you're in that pocket, you got to be here. You got to be.

Speaker 10 That clock, that time, that clock, that clock has to go off in your head. And understanding people rushing.

Speaker 1 Daniel Jones was 22 or 29, 272, and a touchdown.

Speaker 10 Hey, that's nasty work right there. That's good work, too.

Speaker 1 Yes. Good work.

Speaker 1 And that's, look,

Speaker 1 we don't need some, we don't need you. We don't need you to be

Speaker 1 John Elway or Peyton Manning. So just don't, just, just don't turn it over.
Right. That's it.
Just give, just give us a chance. Give us a chance.
That's all we ask of you. Give us a chance.

Speaker 1 If you give them a chance,

Speaker 1 the defense is good. Yeah.
You know, they got Frank,

Speaker 1 they got some guys over there.

Speaker 1 But oof.

Speaker 10 Damn, Dolphins. Don't worry about it.
Thins up, baby. Fins up.
We good. We're going to be all right.
We're going to be all right. What did the Broncos look like today?

Speaker 1 They won.

Speaker 10 They barely won, but okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1 Boy, we put a bang on the Titans. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 10 Barely won.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You concerned for your Dolphins?

Speaker 10 Hell yeah. After what I witnessed today,

Speaker 1 you just told me, Chad, this man just told me it's one game. Now he's

Speaker 10 one game, but I'm trying to be optimistic. I'm trying to be optimistic.
We cannot have that type of show, and there has to be some type of promise.

Speaker 10 When you watch a game, we watch the NFL game for four quarters. You got to see something.
Okay, you know what? That was something good that we can build off of.

Speaker 10 Okay, this is the area we need to work on. Unk, we need to work on every goddamn area.

Speaker 1 Everything.

Speaker 10 We need to work on all three phases of the game: offense, defense, locking, tackling, running, throwing.

Speaker 1 Other than that y'all pretty good oh

Speaker 1 hey y'all let indiana jones do a number on y'all

Speaker 1 they got y'all got that y'all got y'all got the people calling that man indiana jones yeah hey hey danny dime did listen danny dimes no hell he ain't danny dimes no more ocho they called him indiana jones okay i got you i i take that

Speaker 1 They gave this man a nickname after one game.

Speaker 10 Danny Manning.

Speaker 1 I say, Oh my goodness, he was at that dealing.

Speaker 10 I'm gonna be honest with you. He was out there dealing.
I'm

Speaker 1 he did a number on y'all, Locho.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 and he had two. I mean, he threw for hold on Daniel Jones had a touchdown, he rushed for two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 The Colts scored on all seven of their offensive possessions in today's victory, becoming the first team since at least 1978 to score on every offensive possession in a game.

Speaker 1 Every that's what Indiana Jones did to y'all.

Speaker 10 Our defense, we need, we, we need

Speaker 10 that, that, that, don't make, don't make me sad. Don't make me sad because I'm been in good spirits.
My Bengals won, and I'm hoping. I'm hoping.
Matter of fact, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 10 If the Dolphins lose to the Patriots this next upcoming week, my allegiance to them,

Speaker 10 I can't do it no more.

Speaker 1 Are we done?

Speaker 10 I'm done. I'm done.
i've been listening i've been going through this since 1984

Speaker 10 1984 when i understood that i'm from miami yes my home team is the miami dolphins i right and things ain't been right since okay

Speaker 1 well god damn man yeah y'all look bad don't yo y'all look bad

Speaker 10 I got, I know,

Speaker 10 I have faith. I have faith in Tua despite the day's performance.
I have faith in Mike McDaniel. This, despite today's performance,

Speaker 10 I think we're going to be all right. I got faith in Tyreek.
I got faith in Jalen Waddell. I don't know if I think Waddle might be hurt.
There's something happened to Waterwater. Is it true?

Speaker 1 Is it true they was hollering MVP and Indy today?

Speaker 1 Come on. Yeah, that's Indiana Jones getting an MVP chance.
Is that what I heard? I don't know, Joe. I wasn't there.
Don't do that. I'm going by what I heard.
Don't do that. Don't do that.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying they said MVP, MVP.

Speaker 10 Don't do that.

Speaker 10 Damn, man.

Speaker 1 They done gave a man a nick. Y'all done call the man to get a nickname, Indiana Jones.

Speaker 10 That's just homefield advantage.

Speaker 10 Let's see what happens when you play away in a hostile environment, in a chaotic environment, where you don't have your fans on your side, where it's not as easy, where you can't hear what's going on.

Speaker 10 You got everybody chirping at you. Let's see what happened then.

Speaker 1 The Rams beat the Texans 14-9. Matthew Stafford passed for 245 yards and a touchdown while becoming

Speaker 1 the 10th quarterback, excuse me, in NFL history to throw for at least 60,000 yards in a career.

Speaker 1 Puka Nakura, 10 catches, above 30 on 11 targets. Devontae Adams, four catches, 51 yards on eight target.

Speaker 1 He was dealing. I mean, look, Matthew Stafford, man.

Speaker 1 Look, when he was in Detroit, you don't realize how good he was because they lost. And you're like, man, y'all got Calvin, y'all got Megatron.
Y'all couldn't win no more than that. Y'all had Reggie.

Speaker 1 They had a couple of guys that could run the ball. They're like, man, y'all got to be better than that.

Speaker 1 But he got what,

Speaker 1 he can flat out throw the football.

Speaker 10 He's a gunslinger.

Speaker 1 Boy, he can throw it.

Speaker 1 I ain't never seen nobody throw so many no-look classes. Man, that joke will be looking over here and throw.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it'd be right on the money.
Right on the money.

Speaker 10 Right on the money. I think that's one of the reasons why they didn't force me to even practice in training camp.
Oh, you got something wrong with you? Go ahead and take that off.

Speaker 10 Go ahead and relax because we know what you can do once you're in once you're in between those hashes, once you're in between those lines.

Speaker 10 Super Bowl winning quarterback, huh? He's always been a gunslinger. He's in the same class when we talk about gunslingers as your John Elways, your Brett Foffs, your Aaron Rodgers, your Michael Vicks.

Speaker 10 I just, I threw Fic in there because I wanted to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we know you threw him in there.

Speaker 1 But he did. They did win.
They came back and they won a game this weekend. So

Speaker 1 he had Deshaun Jackson. Delaware State won their game also.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 The Bucs beat the Falcons 23-20 in dramatic fashion only eight months after helping Ohio State win a national championship, a mecca

Speaker 10 two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Yep. He caught two touchdown passes, including a game, a go-ahead 25-yarder with 59 seconds remaining.
Baker was 17 of 32 167 with three touchdowns

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Speaker 1 uh

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Speaker 10 What happened to the other kicker?

Speaker 1 That was him.

Speaker 1 He just missed it this time. He went wide.
He pushed it wide right. Right, yeah.

Speaker 10 I thought the name was Young Ho.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's how I spell. But hey.

Speaker 1 Man,

Speaker 1 I just knew they were going to come, but they were going to tie this game.

Speaker 1 Pendix Jr. did a great job on fourth down to die, get the first down.
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Speaker 10 That was a good game. CJ Stroud was CJ Stroud was playing well.

Speaker 1 He was 19 to 27, 188. One interception, three

Speaker 1 sacks. He was sacked three times.
Nick Chubb had a Nick Chubb siding Ocho.

Speaker 10 Hey, he was toting that rock, boy.

Speaker 10 Wait till they get Joe Mixon back.

Speaker 1 They couldn't really get Nico Collins involved.

Speaker 1 But Puka DeCour had himself a day. Kyra Williams had 18 for 66 66 yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it was a very interesting game. I mean,

Speaker 1 Baker,

Speaker 1 those three big touchdowns.

Speaker 1 There it is, right here in the game.

Speaker 1 But that's what Baker's done since he's been there. He finds a way to win the ball game.

Speaker 1 He had a couple of touchdowns and they were pilling around and middleing around and middle and around. And they got the ball back.
He takes them right down the field and get a touchdown.

Speaker 1 You're like, nah i don't want no stinking field goal i don't want no overtime i'm in the a i'm going home i gotta get up i gotta get up out of here yeah i'm going

Speaker 10 they're not paying me for overtime

Speaker 10 i gotta

Speaker 1 he's like first of all i ain't gonna leave it on i ain't gonna chance it to the kicker anyway uh considering how y'all been missing lately yeah

Speaker 10 hey they need they need to put uh they need to widen the field goals field goal post back no they need to because everyone is missing kicks that would normally be good.

Speaker 10 Everybody missing kicks that normally be good. They made it that much more difficult for the kickers by narrowing the goal posts.

Speaker 1 What they've done, guys, have sacrificed distance for accuracy. You see how Broswell, how that 60-yarder went through, that looked like it had been good from 70, didn't it? Yeah, it did.

Speaker 1 So, guys are sacrificing leg strength for accuracy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because we look at how many, look how many PATs we're starting to see miss.

Speaker 10 You know, the further out you go, the further out you go, the more difficult it is to be accurate.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Further out you go. And this is coming from an NFL kicker, you know?

Speaker 1 I wouldn't go that far.

Speaker 10 I was a backup kicker for the Bengal.

Speaker 10 You know that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, way back.

Speaker 1 But the Bucs, look, that division.

Speaker 1 We think it's going to be the Bucs and the We think it's going to be the Bucs and the Falcons.

Speaker 1 That's always nice to go ahead and go on the road now. We play y'all again.
We're division rivals. We play y'all y'all again, but y'all got to come to our place.

Speaker 1 It's always nice to go ahead and get B1 up on your division rivals.

Speaker 1 That division, Carolina, they lost today. New Orleans, they lost today.

Speaker 1 Rattle didn't look that bad. He had a throw late in the ball game that could have tied it.
And the guy,

Speaker 1 the DB did a great job of pulling the ball out.

Speaker 1 Pennix Jr. was 27-42, 298, one touchdown.
He only got sacked once. Bijan Robinson was 6-400, one touchdown.
Kyle Pitts, Kyle Pitts siding, they finally decided to give him the ball.

Speaker 1 Drake London had eight catches. Kyle Pitts had seven catches.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Ocho. What do you want to say?

Speaker 10 I was going to say, hey, they were dishing. They were dishing the Kyle, boy.

Speaker 1 They laid the game. They didn't give him the ball early.

Speaker 10 Early? Yeah,

Speaker 10 they were dishing, boy.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 10 hey, Bijan Robinson in open space, I don't want no, I don't want no part of that. Oh, that turf, he making look, he's making everybody look stupid.
I'm not saying he's Barry Sanders.

Speaker 1 No, nobody's Barry, yeah, nobody is.

Speaker 10 But the only person I've seen that make those kind of moves like that in open space or in tight quarters was maybe LaShawn McCoy, yeah, Shady McCoy, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's who he reminds you of, yeah.

Speaker 10 That's it,

Speaker 10 you're right yes sir well he nice he nice it's uh

Speaker 1 you're not gonna have very many opportunities like that uh penix was dealing today is you know he got an opportunity to start and look he looked good yeah he looked good through the ball with some confidence uh

Speaker 1 you have to you're gonna do a better job of running the football 28 for 69 yards won't get it done

Speaker 1 that's putting too much pressure on your offensive line that's putting too much pressure on your quarterback right you need to bend the ball better. You've got to run the ball better than that.

Speaker 1 You've got to run it better than that. That's asking an awful lot of your quarterback, your second-year quarterback in your offensive line when you only get 69 yards rushing.

Speaker 1 Now, I look, I understand that Tampa, when they got Vita Vale in there, that's not an easy assignment to try to move his big ass out the way.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you got to do something, Ocho.

Speaker 1 That's not nearly good enough. Not nearly good enough.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Broncos spoiled Cam Ward's debut with about the score of 20 to 12 and a win over the Titans. Bo Nicks had an off day, throwing a pair of interceptions.
I think he fumbled.

Speaker 1 His first fumble loss since he was at Auburn.

Speaker 1 He was at Auburn a long ass time, though. But anyway, Nick's defense had his back, half a dozen sacks.

Speaker 1 They did a tremendous job.

Speaker 1 Defense looked good. I definitely looked good.
We got out the two.

Speaker 1 We were swarming. Yeah.

Speaker 1 hey

Speaker 10 for for for the titans

Speaker 10 we got they had some drops in there too though i was just really had a big drop late i was just gonna ready to tell you they they got to help they got to help uno out yeah you got to catch the ball for your quarterback you got to catch the ball for your quarterback to give yourself a chance to win that game be in that game those opportunities that they come they come they come very slim when you're playing a defense as good as the broncos you have to capitalize on every single play.

Speaker 10 Yep. Replay, because you ain't getting that many.

Speaker 1 Cam Ward was 12 of 28, 112 yards, got sacked six times, lost 50 yards. They only had, there were 24, 21 rushes for 71 yards.

Speaker 1 But like I said, really had a drop. They had a couple of drives that dropped the ball in there.
And you got to make those plays. Like you said, Ocho, that's a rookie in that situation.

Speaker 1 You got to help him out. Got to.
And

Speaker 1 he didn't get a whole lot of help today. He did not get a whole lot of help today.

Speaker 1 Bo Nick's, for a second, I thought he had a Titans t-shirt up under that Bronco jersey because, damn, he was trying to help them guys win.

Speaker 1 The play

Speaker 1 through some horrible interceptions: 25 of 4176, a touchdown, two interceptions at a costly fumble. Was only sacked once.
Broncos ran the ball well,

Speaker 1 30 carries for Buck 51. J.K.
Dobbins had a 19-yard touchdown. Harvey, the first-round draft pick, had a 50-yard run.
run.

Speaker 1 And Courtney Sutton, who signed a big contract

Speaker 1 just offseason, had a great touchdown catch.

Speaker 1 But that won't get it done. Denver has to be better than what they show today.
Now, the Titans defensively,

Speaker 1 they kind of got bailed out because

Speaker 1 Simmons

Speaker 1 shoved a guy they call unnecessary roughness and they had the ball.

Speaker 1 They allowed the Broncos to keep the ball for a little longer than what they probably should have had it. But

Speaker 1 you got to be better than that.

Speaker 1 But Cam Ward did not get a lot of help from his receivers today, Ocho.

Speaker 1 It'll have been very interesting to see. Had you know, because really

Speaker 1 doesn't normally drop that. No.

Speaker 1 And he had a couple of drops, a couple, in crucial situations. And we know that what type of receiver Calvin really is.
We've talked about it at nauseum here the last

Speaker 1 couple of days, but

Speaker 1 that won't get it done. That won't get it done.

Speaker 10 You got the head hoes, baby.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then, you know, he didn't, uh, Cam didn't turn it over, but he fumbled. He got, got a, uh, they brought a safety, brought a cat blitz on him, and uh, got the ball out of there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, got the ball out there late in the game that ended up ending it for him. So,

Speaker 1 uh, Broncos win by the score of 20-20, go to one-oh in the division. And guess what? What? For the first time in

Speaker 1 ain't no telling how long, at least a decade, the Chiefs are at the bottom of the division.

Speaker 1 Third stringer, Jake,

Speaker 1 how do you pronounce that name? Tongans

Speaker 1 had a late touchdown catch to give the 49ers a 17-13 win over the Seahawks. He entered the game having never caught an NFL pass.

Speaker 1 He finished with three reception and released a relief of injured George Kittle. Kittle got injured out of games.
It was a hamstring, huh? Oh, that's what it was? Okay.

Speaker 10 Soft tissue, hamstring.

Speaker 1 And, hey,

Speaker 1 Purdy put it up and the guy came down and made a great play for him. And you got sometimes, though, Joe, you got to have guys making plays for you.

Speaker 1 Everything's not going to always be perfect.

Speaker 1 But boy, ooh,

Speaker 1 Purdy didn't look good today. Nah.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I think you try to go out there and you try to, you know, you try to,

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 those interceptions. Yeah, he was 26 of 35, 277, two touchdowns, two interceptions.
He was only sacked once. Sam Darnall was 16 of 23, 150 yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions.

Speaker 1 Jackson Smith and Jigba, nine for a buck 24.

Speaker 1 But, oh, he had a turnover. He fumbled at the end of the game, and then,

Speaker 1 what you call him, got it?

Speaker 1 Bosa.

Speaker 1 They probably credited Bosa with a sack. Oh, yeah, dead.

Speaker 1 Probably credited Bosa with a sack. Yep.

Speaker 1 Fred Warner with Fred Warner.

Speaker 1 Ricky Pearsall had a nice game, Ocho.

Speaker 1 Rick Ricky did.

Speaker 10 I think

Speaker 10 Jawan Jennings got hurt, didn't he?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I see two catches.
I was watching that game, and I was all

Speaker 1 trying to focus on that game, trying to focus on this game over here.

Speaker 1 But Pearsall, look,

Speaker 10 he had a good game.

Speaker 10 Today was his coming out game

Speaker 1 he showed flashes last year and i think this is one of the reasons why they were they were ready because they knew in order for him to really sprout and spread his wings they had to get rid of debo they had to let debo go because those opportunities that debo would get now you got to give him the he got them yeah he's he's getting now mccaffrey had 10 had uh nine catches on 10 targets had a big uh i think fourth down catch to keep a drive alive that ended up turning into i think the uh uh the touchdown catch.

Speaker 1 49 of you to get a kicker. That's what they need.

Speaker 10 Hey, your boy right here.

Speaker 1 That's really what they

Speaker 1 Tongas.

Speaker 1 That's how you say his name. T-O-N-G-E-S.
Tongas.

Speaker 10 Listen, based on the kick-ins we saw today in week one, there are a few teams that could use a kicker.

Speaker 10 Because a few games are lost based on someone's foot.

Speaker 1 Ocho, the Jags beat the Panthers 26 to 10. Trevor Lawrence threw a touchdown pass.
Trevor Atien ran for a buck 43. And Brian Thomas Jr.
also ran for a score.

Speaker 1 Travis Hunter played 39 offensive snaps, caught six passes for 33 yards. He played just six snaps on defense.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You watched it.

Speaker 1 I tried to watch some of it.

Speaker 10 It was up. I had it up.
I had it it up.

Speaker 10 I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 10 I think it was a good battle for Travis Hunter. Obviously, not playing very many defensive snaps, but obviously they said he would play more offensively.

Speaker 10 He looked good. He looked decent.
Trevor Lawrence looked like a number one pick today.

Speaker 10 He looked like a number one pick today.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 He did. Travis Antienne looked really good as well.

Speaker 10 He looked faster, a little bit more explosive. I don't know what it is.
I don't know. He looked faster, a little bit more explosive.

Speaker 1 Bigsby, Tank Bigsby, played really well last year.

Speaker 1 He was trying to take money out your pockets.

Speaker 10 Oh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 10 I see where you're going with it. I got you.

Speaker 10 I got you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bryce Young, 18 to 35, 154, touchdown, two picks. Trevor Lawrence was 19 to 31, 178, one touchdown, one pick.

Speaker 1 But like you said, they ran the ball 32 times for 200 yards.

Speaker 1 You know, Trav got in and he did catch six passes, Ocho. Not much on the defensive side.
I think he had a half a tackle. But look,

Speaker 1 we'll check back in

Speaker 1 once the season's,

Speaker 1 once as we get further along in the season, and we'll probably see it tick up more. Maybe 15 plays next week on defense.

Speaker 1 But I think it's going to be some time before

Speaker 1 this says, okay, you're not coming off the field. Right.

Speaker 1 Woof.

Speaker 1 Cardinals beat the Saints by the score of 20 to 13. Caller Murray, 163 yards, hitting Marvin Harrison Jr.
five times for 71 yards on a touchdown.

Speaker 1 He also ran 38 yards and another score and a five-yard shovel pass to James Connor.

Speaker 1 You know what, Ocho?

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like I said, Spencer Rattler, you know, I thought late in the ball game, he had a chance to tie this ball game up. Give the Cardinals credit.
They ended up pulling the ball out.

Speaker 1 But I will say this:

Speaker 1 quarterbacks, on fourth down, last play of the game, give you guys, even if you throw an interception, so what? If you throw the ball out of bounds, it's going to be incomplete.

Speaker 1 Give your guy a chance.

Speaker 10 Give him a chance.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 10 That's all we could ask for.

Speaker 1 Got a chance.

Speaker 1 Spencer Rattler was 27 of 46, 214. He was only the sack once.

Speaker 1 No touchdown session. He ain't looked too bad, huh? He ain't look too bad.
No, he didn't. No, he didn't.
No.

Speaker 1 He got a nice arm now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 A nice arm.

Speaker 10 Now,

Speaker 10 are we, and I'm being optimistic. You do understand who they were playing, right?

Speaker 1 They're playing the Cardinals.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 1 Or you think the Cardinals are going to be bad this year?

Speaker 10 No, I don't think they're going to be bad, but they're not a team that you can really, really heavily judge a quarterback on.

Speaker 10 Because when it comes to playing better competition, especially better competition defensively,

Speaker 10 then can you still

Speaker 10 be consistent and make the right decisions with the ball? Right,

Speaker 1 right.

Speaker 1 I mean, New Orleans did a great job. They got after Kyler Murray, sacked him five times, Ocho.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 oh, yeah.

Speaker 10 Hey, watching them games today, man.

Speaker 10 It got the adrenaline going.

Speaker 10 I was excited. I was hyped.
Watching, you know, Star Spangled Banner being sung. Like, I don't know why it feels like I can go out there and play.
Like,

Speaker 10 huh?

Speaker 1 You can't.

Speaker 10 You don't think so?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 10 Damn.

Speaker 10 I don't know. I just think if I was giving.

Speaker 1 And I left the game with some injuries. Keep it that way.

Speaker 10 Damn.

Speaker 10 uh

Speaker 1 the raiders beat the patriots by the score of 20 to 13 geno smith passed for 362 yards at a touchdown in his raiders debut brock bowers had five catches for 103 yards before leaving the game with a knee injury jacoby myers added eight catches for 97 yards

Speaker 1 geno just needed to get out of new york yeah Geno, Geno been playing well since he left New York.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 10 he was wheeling and dealing in Seattle, too. I'm not sure why.
I'm not sure why they let him go, but he's going to wheel and deal out there in Las Vegas. Yeah.

Speaker 10 That's one thing he can do: he can throw that ball. He can spin it.

Speaker 10 He can spin it. And now

Speaker 10 you got some very, very good targets that you get to throw the ball to, especially Brock Bowers, who's probably going to be the best tight end in the game.

Speaker 10 And he'll probably solidify that spot after this season.

Speaker 10 Probably so.

Speaker 10 They're going to be all right.

Speaker 10 They're going to be all right.

Speaker 1 I mean, they needed Geno. Geno was 24, 34, 362, one touchdown, one interception.

Speaker 1 They got sacked, but hey, he still was dealing because they didn't really have no resemblance of a run game. 24 rush attempts, 56 yards.

Speaker 1 Aston Jente averaged two yards of carry, but Brock Bowers, like you said, Aston Gentee and excuse me, Brock Bowers and Jacoby Myers between the two of them had 13 catches for 200 yards.

Speaker 10 And the funny thing about it is the fact that Geno Smith was still willing and dealing with no run presence at all.

Speaker 10 Yep, with no run presence. Aston Gentle, he's gonna get off.
You're gonna have games like this, you're gonna have games like this. You, you, you're not, it's different.
This ain't boys' state.

Speaker 10 Everybody just as strong, everybody just as fast, and all that being able to bounce, bounce it outside. There ain't gonna be none of that,

Speaker 10 ain't ain't gonna be none of that. You gotta find that crease and you got to hit it.
You got to hit it and go.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 because uh,

Speaker 1 everybody pinned state,

Speaker 10 Everybody.

Speaker 1 Everybody.

Speaker 1 All right, guys, we're going to get you out of here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q ⁇ A.

Speaker 10 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 You're not going to tell me the surprise for tomorrow?

Speaker 10 Oh, that's

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Time for Q ⁇ A. Chris Ballis says, as a lifelong Patriots fans, I must say I'm not pleased with what I've been seeing from my team, especially offensively.
13 points, really?

Speaker 1 Clearly, something needs to happen. This is not the standard.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's your new standard.

Speaker 10 Shoot, the bank, we only scored 17. Well, we scored 16.

Speaker 1 Don't score 17.

Speaker 10 17. Shit, we averaged 33 last year, huh?

Speaker 10 We averaged 33, you know. So, I mean, sometimes you play teams and sometimes they got your number.
Sometimes it's going to be like this.

Speaker 10 And it's week one. It's week one, two, people.

Speaker 10 We we got the you know, we got calm on calm on calm on calm down. I think, I think the patient, the patriots gonna be all right.
Drake may

Speaker 10 he's gonna be all right.

Speaker 1 Mark said it's funny that Shannon thinks he can critique quarterbacks. I can,

Speaker 1 yeah, I play the game, I study the game, yeah, I can.

Speaker 10 I can't critique quarterbacks, yeah, yeah, yeah, we, yeah, we can, I can too, because I played quarterback, yeah, why can't I?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 10 well, you should have saw me in high school, boy.

Speaker 1 Dagnante Cobbins, the best opening game I've seen in my life, and I'm 43 years old. What say you, Unk Ocho?

Speaker 1 I guess he's talking about tonight,

Speaker 1 Baltimore, Buffalo. Hey, that was good.

Speaker 10 That game was good. That game was good.

Speaker 1 Was it 94?

Speaker 1 Was it 94?

Speaker 1 The Patriots and the Dolphins had a game like this. I think Blesso threw for like 470-something, and Merino had like 380-400.

Speaker 1 Go back and check that game open. I think it's 94.

Speaker 1 That might have been a game where Blesso had like 70 pass attempts.

Speaker 1 Was that opening day? 94?

Speaker 1 The Dolphins and the Patriots.

Speaker 20 I mean, seven passing back to touch Jays in the back

Speaker 20 of the day.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This was a very good game. I mean, you got scoring.
I mean, you got both quarterbacks playing extremely well.

Speaker 1 Both offenses playing well.

Speaker 1 You just, I mean, you just had the one one turnover. And when you turned the ball over, basically ended up costing the rape.

Speaker 1 You hate to say it cost them a game, but it gave Buffalo some momentum that they didn't have. It gave them some juice.
It gave them some life. They were on life support.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that fumble gave them life.

Speaker 10 You know what else game up?

Speaker 1 He already passed for.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Remember that game?

Speaker 1 Remember that game? That was opening day, though. That was.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Remember that game in 2018, that Chiefs Rams game?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Well, that thing was nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 That was another one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that

Speaker 1 94 game, the Dolphins and the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Danny threw for 473. Blesso threw for 421.

Speaker 1 That was Ben Coates coming out party.

Speaker 1 That was a barn burner. Yeah.
But this game, you know, I was playing. I just remember, I just remember going home and seeing and seeing the highlights of it.

Speaker 1 But this game here, yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think of another game that opening night.

Speaker 1 Off the top of my head, I can't think.

Speaker 1 Off the top of my head. But

Speaker 1 this game tonight, Buffalo and Baltimore was

Speaker 1 great. A Dal Smith, it makes no sense how Ravens can't close out games.
How the hell they keep making mistakes, allowing teams to come back. You just said it, making mistakes.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 You ended the season off making mistakes, and you started the season off making mistakes.

Speaker 10 And the same mistakes from last year that cost you hell, it cost you again this time.

Speaker 1 Uh, Ravens O-line is horrific. They got exposed again.
Isn't the Eagles and Bills O-line not good? I don't think, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 you think the Ravens O-line got exposed?

Speaker 10 Who was that right guard that kept getting pushed in, that kept in the backfield.

Speaker 1 But Ed Oliver kept pushing in the backfield?

Speaker 10 That right guard. I don't know who that is, but he is the weak.
That's the fish.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I mean, no disrespect, but he is the fish.

Speaker 10 Oh, let me see.

Speaker 1 Oh, far le, but he's been there. He's been a starter.

Speaker 1 He's been there a while.

Speaker 10 I don't think it's 5-5. I don't think it's him.
Maybe, maybe it's the...

Speaker 1 He's the right guard.

Speaker 10 Might have been, maybe left guard. whoever it is is Tom T tall as hell

Speaker 10 and Ed Oliver kept getting right up underneath him.

Speaker 1 Well, Ed Oliver Ed Oliver likes 6'1. So it ain't gonna take much if you talk about so he probably likes 6'4 6'3 6'4 and Ed Oliver probably likes 6'6'1.

Speaker 10 Right, okay.

Speaker 1 But he's but he's powerful. Um I mean, you look at Lamar, 14 to 19, 209, two touchdowns.
You look at the office running the football, 29 rush attempts, 238 yards.

Speaker 10 God damn

Speaker 1 that offensive line i mean they only gave up two sacks

Speaker 1 no they gotta that defense gotta do a better job they gave up 500 yards of total offense to the to a josh to josh uh uh

Speaker 1 josh allen they got to do a better job you know you know derry literally said the ravens kicker missed an extra point after henry scored they did he did

Speaker 1 he came back to bottom because now the now if Baltimore kicks the field goal,

Speaker 1 it goes to overtime. Now,

Speaker 1 Buffalo probably takes a different approach. You know, they killed a clock, and now they're going for the end zone.
Yeah, they got to win.

Speaker 1 Sean, the Ravens played to contain Josh, not to sack him. Ravens felt their corners are better than the Bills' receivers.
How'd that work out for him?

Speaker 1 King Payne said, go take Alexander back where we got him from. Shouldn't have depended on the offense to get up and stay up and

Speaker 1 shut a game out. This defense needs to step up.

Speaker 1 I'm talking more than Kyle Hamilton.

Speaker 10 Hey, Unc, you put up 40 points

Speaker 10 in any football game, at any level, you're supposed to win the game.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 10 At any level. High school, Pee Wee, college.

Speaker 10 Especially the NFL, 40?

Speaker 1 Well, Mike would tell us, look, if we lose 41-40, offense, y'all didn't do enough.

Speaker 1 If we lose 10-13, defense, you didn't do enough.

Speaker 1 But that turnover, when you turn the ball over,

Speaker 1 is of the utmost importance.

Speaker 1 If Henry fumbles this ball in the first half,

Speaker 1 we're having a different conversation. He's good.

Speaker 10 He's good.

Speaker 1 We're having a different conversation.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I just think you got to give Buffalo credit for not down. I mean, they were down

Speaker 1 40 to 25 with less than five minutes to go.

Speaker 1 You need two scorers, and one of them needs, and you need a two-point conversion after it.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that's what happened. Trey Tyner said, Uncle Noto, Ravens got to do something about 70 on the old line.
Ed Oliver ran through him all night, caused the pressures on D. Henry fumble.

Speaker 10 That's him right there. Who's number 70? That's number 70.

Speaker 1 Lele, isn't it?

Speaker 1 Roger Rosengarden. Oh, Rosengarden.

Speaker 10 That's the one. That's the name.

Speaker 1 Huh? No, he's the right tackle. Rosengarden is the right tackle.
Right tackle. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's the right tackle. But he was, he did good, remember? He ended up, he ended up getting Miles Garrett jersey last year after the job that he did on Miles Garrett.

Speaker 1 Just had a bad night. Cal Simpson said, Uncle help me understand how the Ravens defense is bad when they go against Lamar every day in practice.
I know it's not every period, but

Speaker 1 hey, keep your head up, King Henry. No, actually, they don't.
They probably only go against the Ravens offense in two minutes. Because that's really the only time that you see the Ravens offense.

Speaker 1 We went ones against ones in the two-minute situation.

Speaker 1 That's the only time we've, yeah. In practice.

Speaker 1 Yep. We wanted our best against the best.

Speaker 1 Cal Simpson also said, Bible says a man who doesn't

Speaker 1 work doesn't eat. Ravens defense didn't work today.
Q. Jimmy Johnson, no food on the plane.

Speaker 1 Behavior Patel said, wow, Ocho's face looked like Whopper's candy. Pay Unk.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Ocho, pay me he said my face looked like what yeah they said last they said uh what was that saturday yeah they say your name was dud milk dud

Speaker 10 oh man listen y'all talk listen them people talking man listen i was i was listening people got to remember

Speaker 10 like i was 2005 from 2005 to 2009 i was really one of the sexiest men alive and this in the world

Speaker 1 not just not just here in the states in the world so i mean if you're being alive, I mean, if there's a man alive, I mean, I'm assuming that you're talking about, you know, everywhere, but okay, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 10 I know, yeah, this, this was in

Speaker 10 GQ, you know, women, women rated me, you know, you know, top five sexiest men alive.

Speaker 1 That's what it is? Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 10 Yeah. I'm shooting, you know.

Speaker 1 Stephen Bass says, Uncle Ocho, love y'all big fans.

Speaker 1 What's different about playing on Sunday night football versus Monday night games?

Speaker 1 Can you give another another childhood story about you having told? Ocho, what's the difference? You play on Sunday night, play on Monday night?

Speaker 10 You know what? I don't really think it's no difference. I don't think it's no difference.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's no difference.

Speaker 1 There weren't always Sunday night games. Yeah.
I mean, since the 70s, they've been Monday night. Monday night, you have everybody's attention.

Speaker 1 Everybody else in the NFL, because sometimes on Sunday night, Ocho, teams are flying. Yeah.
Yeah. So now, Monday night.

Speaker 10 everybody watching front front and center front and center everybody front and center

Speaker 1 and uh it's it's look you got this you got stage center stage all to yourself on both nights but a lot of teams are traveling um and and things might happen they're getting dressed uh trying to get up out of there trying to get back to a location uh and so they might miss something but on monday night ain't nobody traveling nowhere everybody's already home a lot of teams some guys might be going to the a man.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 we over at Ocho house tonight, man. Okay, all right, cool.

Speaker 1 Everybody watching. So you got everybody's undivided attention.
But it's always great.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think. No, ESPN didn't always have.

Speaker 1 Actually, games used to come on TNT

Speaker 1 on Sunday nights.

Speaker 1 TNT. Wait.

Speaker 1 TNT used to have Sunday night Football.

Speaker 10 When was that?

Speaker 1 In the 90s.

Speaker 10 Oh, okay. Oh, I'm finna sing.

Speaker 10 I didn't have TNT back then. I had Firestick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we had TNT. I think, I'm trying to think.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure because I remember we played 95. I think 95.

Speaker 1 They might have been two games. I mean, ASPN and TNT might have had,

Speaker 1 because we played Buffalo in 95 on TNT, but

Speaker 1 not yet. Was it?

Speaker 1 Man, I forget, man, that's so long ago. That's 30 years ago.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think.

Speaker 1 But yeah, we used to play TNT hat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can you chase me if I,

Speaker 1 if if I'm not mistaken, I think our Sunday night game opening night 1995 was on TNT. I'm almost certain of it, Ocho.

Speaker 1 I'm almost certain of it.

Speaker 10 You know, it was on TNT because I'm a fire stick. I used to get the NFL games and I used to get wrestling.

Speaker 10 This in the 90s now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I wasn't paying for it. Yeah, it was TNT.

Speaker 1 Can you all find out when ASPN got Sunday night football?

Speaker 1 But look, I think if, look, if you want everybody, a lot of people is going to be watching, you know, because like during the day, a lot of people go to church. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, you know, sometimes people don't get an opportunity to come back to watch, they watch the late game. Sometimes, you know, people are in church.
Now,

Speaker 1 especially in the black church,

Speaker 1 you definitely gonna miss that one o'clock game.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Oh, listen.
You missing that. You get that halftime.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You're gonna miss that.

Speaker 10 I go to 10 o'clock service.

Speaker 10 You still won't get home till after halftime.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna miss miss that one.

Speaker 10 Preacher, be up there all day. The goddamn benediction.
Got to wait on the sermon. He got to get a word.
Then you got you got tithes and offering. They got about four tithes and offerings.

Speaker 1 They were both. They were doing it.

Speaker 1 NBC.

Speaker 1 Damn. So they had, so they are,

Speaker 1 what they were at the same time?

Speaker 1 Damn. ESPN and what you call them with the TNT was airing games at the same time.

Speaker 1 NFL said, man, we losing money.

Speaker 1 See,

Speaker 1 why would we do that, Ocho? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 Hey,

Speaker 10 it's hard to compete with the wrestling back then,

Speaker 1 but you see TNT.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 So it was split broadcast.

Speaker 1 Okay, so it's okay. So that's what it was.
TNT had like the first eight games, and then ESPN had the second eight games.

Speaker 1 Michael said, Uncanocho continue to love this show after working and watching Josh Allen tonight. How long does it take Jed York to realize they overpaid Purdy?

Speaker 1 Alan Lamar is what 50 million plus quarterback look like. It's all about the market.
It's all about the market.

Speaker 10 Not only that, it's marketing timing, huh? Yep. There are no other options.

Speaker 10 There are no other options. You're not finding another Josh Allen no time soon.
So the best available quarterback for the 49ers at that time was Brock Purdy.

Speaker 10 So, you had no choice but to pay him because where else are you going to get one from?

Speaker 1 Lord, have mercy. We had an opportunity to draft Josh Allen.
The Broncos had an opportunity to draft Josh Allen, right? And they didn't.

Speaker 1 They took Bradley Chubb at five. Buffalo took Josh Allen at seven.

Speaker 10 Wait, who was the quarterback at that time, though?

Speaker 1 I don't give a damn who the quarterback was.

Speaker 1 We needed a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Trevor Simeon.

Speaker 1 Who was it? Trevor Simeon? Okay. Allen had to be probably Trevor Simeon.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Manning had retired.

Speaker 1 MSQ, how about the ending of the Niners Seahawks?

Speaker 1 Jake, first catch, first touchdown game, strip sacked by Nick Bosa. Moody got to go.
True.

Speaker 1 If Derrick Henry is the running back with the ball and Cam Chancellor's safety coming downhill and they meet, who wins that matchup?

Speaker 10 I'm going with Cam on that one.

Speaker 10 Cam, listen, Cam has the size and the weight, the weight distribution.

Speaker 1 Yes. Be able to win that.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. I take Cam.

Speaker 1 Cam had no regard for his body or yours. At all.
He blowed up everything. Tyron said, what's up, Ukrainocho? What in the world, Miami Doc? What are we going to do with my guy going on?

Speaker 1 They made Daniel Jones look like Peyton Manning, and Tua was good and terrible. He was absolutely awful.

Speaker 1 Absolutely awful.

Speaker 10 Damn, man.

Speaker 10 We're going to be all right, though. I'm optimistic.
If we lose against the Patriots, man, I'm done.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you might be done. Oh, Cho, Bria Carter said,

Speaker 1 should the Dolphins cut or trade Tour?

Speaker 10 i don't think he's the answer well they ain't cutting they ain't cutting nobody in the second year of a 250 million dollar deal

Speaker 10 that that's not happening

Speaker 10 that's not happening i do i do see the direction in which the dolphins are going they're in a rebuilding phase they're going young getting rid of most of the the older players all our jalen ramsey Next will probably be my young bull that wears number 10 if things don't turn around.

Speaker 1 rico pen reek to the steelers roman uh a roman wilson and a third round maybe a fourth

Speaker 1 who to the steelers reek tyreek

Speaker 1 oh

Speaker 10 it don't matter where he go

Speaker 10 if you you put him anywhere with a quarterback man

Speaker 10 you already know what that means

Speaker 1 Well, you're going to pit him that, you know, who wants to pay for other. If you got, if somebody got a quarterback, what do they already have, Ocho? A 30 million dollar receiver, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm just

Speaker 1 just goes to show you, Ocho, sometimes the grass ain't always greener, is it?

Speaker 10 It ain't, but he was able to make it greener. He's the seeds the same month with that same quarterback that has 17 back-to-back,

Speaker 10 1700 yard seeds.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you a question: When he's in Kansas City, how many times you see him doing this?

Speaker 1 When he's in Kansas City, how many times you see him not go back into the game?

Speaker 1 Oh, Bravin Patel said, oh, yo, how about your bingos almost getting cooked by the Browns? Sorry-ass bingles.

Speaker 10 See, I think, see,

Speaker 10 people hear the Browns.

Speaker 10 They hear the Browns and they just think of a trash, but they don't understand how good their defense is. Like, I continue to preach it.
Like, I'm a Bengal at heart. You know that.

Speaker 10 If I'm telling you how good they are, they're one of the few teams where the personnel is good at all three levels.

Speaker 10 Denzel Ward and Greg Newsome are extremely good.

Speaker 1 Man, man.

Speaker 10 The front floor, Miles Garrett, very good.

Speaker 1 That's a, I mean, the way y'all feel about the Browns, that's how I used to feel about the Bengals.

Speaker 1 Oh, Joe, y'all were terrible in the 90s. I ain't gonna even lie.
I ain't gonna hold you. Hey, we was bad.

Speaker 10 You ain't gotta tell me. I know.
I heard, listen, I done heard the stories.

Speaker 1 Boy, y'all were good. Boy, y'all weren't even good, terrible.

Speaker 1 Y'all were bad and terrible.

Speaker 10 That was Jeff Blake. Jeff Blake was a quarterback then, huh?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Man, y'all had.
Well, I got

Speaker 1 against Blake. I played against Akee Smith.

Speaker 1 We played against Boomer was a quarterback. First year we played y'all in 93.
Boomer was the quarterback. Right.

Speaker 1 Man, I don't know who y'all quarterback was in 90s.

Speaker 1 Was it Jeff Blake?

Speaker 1 It might have been 96. We played y'all in 97 and 98.

Speaker 1 96 and 98.

Speaker 1 I played against Keely Smith when I was in Baltimore.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I was there.

Speaker 10 I was there with Keely, my rookie year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Keely was there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Robert Dread says, please see that this donation goes towards the Bengals O-Line Foundation.

Speaker 1 I saw the commercial, and it looks like they're in dire need for any assistance

Speaker 1 aaron jones remember when eagle fans chanted to run the ball we need to do that again at least establish it uh that will get a wide receiver open and we need a cornerback uh aaron jones who's your team

Speaker 10 the packers eagles

Speaker 1 BK said your Broncos tried to give the Titans the game, but we didn't want it. True.

Speaker 1 Money making G, our Uncan Ocho. Ocho crossed the line today.
He out there betting, giving money. He owe you away.

Speaker 1 I'm down in Charleston, Georgia, but I can pull up on him if you need me to. Just say the word.
Pay Uncle Ocho.

Speaker 10 Hey, well, listen, come on. Go ahead and pull up.

Speaker 10 We're going to get you sharp now.

Speaker 10 We're going to get you nice and sharp.

Speaker 10 What color you want to wear? What color you want your suit?

Speaker 1 Timothy Harper says, salute, Uncan Ocho. Would you guys ever consider doing a once-a-week call-in show? I mean,

Speaker 1 we tried to make that happen, bro.

Speaker 1 We tried to make that happen. Hey, we doing all that.

Speaker 1 We're going to get it right.

Speaker 1 We're going to get it right. We're going to get you right.

Speaker 1 That concludes this episode of Nightcap.

Speaker 1 We want to thank you guys for joining us, for staying up late with us as we watch the Barn Burner, one of the best opening games of the NFL season in a very long time, as the Buffalo Bills come back from 15 down with under five minutes left in the ball game to nip the Baltimore Ravens by the score of 41.40.

Speaker 1 They overcame

Speaker 1 169 yards rushing from Derrick Henry and two touchdowns and two passing touchdowns from Lamar Jackson. But tonight belonged to the Buffalo Bills, mainly Josh Allen, 33 of 46, 394.

Speaker 1 two touchdowns passing. He had another two touchdowns rushing.
So Josh Allen was sensational.

Speaker 1 Keon Coleman caught a deflected touchdown on fourth down and had a big catch to get them in field goal range.

Speaker 1 He finished with eight catches for a buck 12 and a touchdown as they come back from 15 down with under five minutes and beat the Baltimore Ravens. 41 to 40.

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