REACTION to Cowboys Packers tie, Ravens get blown out by Chiefs, Jaxons Dart wins first start | Deebo and Joe

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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to a wild NFL football Sunday. The Green Bay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys end up in a tie 40-40, the Baltimore Ravens got run off the field by the Kansas City Chiefs, and Jaxson Dart makes his first start at as a Giant and much more!

00:00 - Introduction
08:00 - Steelers beat Vikings
26:00 - Lions beat Browns
31:05 - Ravens blow out Chiefs
44:45 - Packers x Cowboys end in tie
49:35 Giants beat Chargers, Nabers tears ACL
1:01:00 Eagles beat Bucs
1:06:40 - Cam Ward frustrated

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Welcome back to Debo and Joe on this Victory Monday.

I'm your host, James Debo Harrison.

I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden.

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How are you doing today, Joe?

Man, Debo, I'm feeling good, man.

You know, Stillers came through with that good early morning.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

You know what I'm saying?

Well, it was good.

Stillers, I could have sworn last Monday

you was wearing a Browns jersey, weren't you?

I keep, Debo, Debo, every time this happens, I always tell you, I have multi-loyalties.

So when the Steelers win, I feel happy about it.

When the Browns win, I feel happy about it.

So I'm able to

do a little bit of both.

So what happened when we played

twice a year?

When we play once, Devo, twice a year.

Twice a year.

When we play twice a year, I'm neutral.

I want to see good football.

I want the best team.

So you're going into the Hall of Fame is neutral.

See, why you keep going about this Hall of Fame thing, Devo?

I got mixed loyalties.

You are obviously with the Stillers, and we're going to rock with that.

But it's okay.

Can I not show the Stillers some love too?

Is that okay?

It's okay.

I just, I just, I'm just trying to get a clarification.

The people keep asking me, Joe.

Okay.

The people keep asking me.

Okay, no, no.

Every time you ask me, I'm going to give you more and more clarity.

Every time, whatever you're saying.

Let's talk about my, i mean r our still is a man you know we out there in dublin ireland going out there first time ever getting that good dub

early in the morning early mr rooney of course yes sir early in the morning 9 30.

i ain't gonna lie to you i didn't i like i didn't i do like how our first possession went like we get sacked on the first down brother and it looked like it was just a pure missed assignment we get pressured on the next two and then we got a pumpkin route.

Yeah,

Minnesota gets the ball.

They start driving down the field, and we get a fumble, baby, for a touchdown recovery.

I'm like, hey, this is what we that's what you

that's what you thought.

That's what I thought.

And then I saw the running back.

He went on ahead and touched the ball.

They had to do some rude stuff and all that, whatever it was.

Yes, yes.

That was

like it, but they helped us out.

They had an illegal man downfield.

We came in there with that sack him on third down, held him to a field goal, you know.

But we get back out there, you know what I'm saying?

We got to get that man involved.

Who that man is?

That man is D.K.

Medcalf.

K.

Medcalf.

That man.

We went on here.

We started moving him around.

We said, you know, we ain't going to put him out there always at the one.

We're going to move him to the two and the three.

We said, Rogers, hey, instead of just straight out running the run, listen, we you man that have been in this league forever, you wanted the best to ever do it.

Look what you see, and we're gonna give you a run pass option.

So, we started doing a little dink and dunk here on the run pass option.

He don't like what he see, he go ahead and he toss it off.

And what we do, what we do,

your man Gamewell ended up finishing it off.

We got a TD on the show.

Yes, sir, yes, sir.

Touchdown.

well brother was and the one thing i loved about that too was in that drive you said uh dk had three catches on that drive and and game well brother even just he was toting that rock and just being able to give him the ball give him chances he was he did his thing on that drive so i love to see that when they went down there scored made it seven to three back to the bikers let's see what they can do much or nothing man they come down there you know they get a play here and there but you know defense go ahead and you know they blessing on them boys they go ahead get a nice little false start and what happened again

sat

that

punt that ball on over to here and what we were we were just talking about some man what would that man name was

the one that we talked about that we needed him to just get involved just get his feet wet they saying he hasn't been being explosive they don't know what it is and he

dk

What did he 80 yard, took it to the crib.

My man was running like a mixture of Adrian Peterson.

He had a little Pacheco.

He was grinding, getting up the sideline.

And I love the way that he finished it on the three and still ducked in the buddy and still got into the end zone.

That play was unbelievable.

DK was, he looked, he looked great.

Hit him in the middle.

I ain't going out of bounds.

I don't look like going out of bounds.

I ain't running this far not to go in here and get me six.

I ain't about to run in here and not get me six.

What you talking about?

That was fire, bro.

That was grade A DK.

That was prime DK Metcalf, young running down the field looking sweet.

No question.

So that turned into 14-3.

It's 14-3.

Debo,

at this point, I'm like, oh, we might as well.

This could be the game.

We might as well just run away with it.

Defense performing, offense performing.

Let's keep it going.

No question.

Minnesota, you know, they did a little something.

Defense banned a little bit, but we don't break.

You know what I'm saying?

We went on head.

We got it.

Got heavy.

We started blitzing them.

You know what I'm saying?

Doing what we had to do.

what happened then

interception

elliot

interception

yeah so we we get a pick we get the pick but then after that still is field goal well this is what happened man you know What happened there?

Rogers went on here and took off.

He fumbled the rock, you know.

Yeah.

But we recovered it.

you know what I'm saying?

Then, and then we got, you know, we got sacked later and

settled for the field goal attempt.

But uh, that damn Rodgers,

he came in there and blocked it.

You know what?

I shouldn't have made him player of the week last week.

That's what I shouldn't have did.

He might not have blocked that field goal.

He had to do.

He had to be.

He had to be.

Offense, they come out there, man.

man

they go for i think like 10 12 on the pass but then we get a rough in the pass or that add 15 on it then we get caught in the blitz they hit us for 17 then 30.

but you know

bin then

but don't break

that's exactly what we go ahead we give them a little three we get them a little three

half time

16 to 14 14 what we got 14 6

yeah 14 to 6 i i ain't tripping you know what i'm saying my deep my man dk got 122 at the half you know rogers 12 or 14 for 165

you know i ain't gonna lie that boy wince he yeah he went 16 to 20 for 150 and jefferies you know jefferson he had he had like 100 maybe 97 95 something like that

Brother,

it's the big, they were giving up a lot of big players.

They were keeping them out of the end zone, zone, but they definitely too many just blown coverages, those overroutes.

You got to keep eyes on them.

I think sometimes those blown coverages, we're going to get into them in the second half when we could have really ran away with it.

You know what I'm saying?

But we just, we got to tighten up.

It's definitely been, but don't break, but you can't just have people running Scott Free.

Yeah, we come out.

They get the rock.

You know.

Type four, lost sack, all that.

Let's go.

Still the ball in three and out.

Come on, man.

What are we doing quick quick three and out doing

we get back in there though

sack fumble

but they recovered it anyway they recovered it but sack again

and then they went on ahead and tried to pick it and you know it's another man on that team that's on it

that man tj swat is always going to come through tj swat pick catch run with that thing

that thing that was run with that thing it was a good short field

off let's go out there.

What'd they do?

Ah, come on.

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to who

to who the running back

listen man we getting

we getting we getting we getting we getting everybody involved often did a better job running that ball too they especially with that that that that pass run option i wasn't i wasn't tripping man i wasn't tripping.

I was very, very, it looked good, man.

It looked good, especially in the first half.

That still going into the second half.

Game well, just making sure that we, end of the day, having him run the ball, even if he's not getting like 10 yards of pop.

He was getting about five, six yards of pop.

That's going to make the defense that's going to put DK in these one-on-one, in these one-on-one matchups.

For sure.

For sure.

So.

It's what I'm trying to

get to, man.

Sack game came alive.

Yes.

I think of the six sacks we had, I believe three or four of them was on third down.

Situational ball, man.

That's what we do, man.

That's what we do.

We go ahead and move the ball a little around a little bit.

You know, we we settle.

We

settle for a nice little

field goal.

We got a field goal.

We got a field goal.

But

again.

Minnesota get the ball.

We had Jalen get hurt.

And

I i think that was the play where we had that blown coverage dude just running scot-free running scot-free that's what i'm talking about we can't have those we can't have that at all now scott-free td they end up getting this now we're in a fight

and they got the two-point conversations now we're in a fight now 21 21 now we're 24 14.

you know what else happened

i think they played their renegade again at the wrong time

see okay that's not what they ended up scoring 15 after they played that renegade again at the wrong time

when they ended up getting that touchdown debo because but the score now is 24 to 14.

24.

no it's not it's 21 24 21 right now right

no it's 21 14.

you're right you're right you're right you're right

no it's not it's 21 24

24 14 because it still has just got that field goal you're right yeah listen here man.

I'm just telling y'all, if y'all can't play the renegade at the right time, don't do it.

Last time y'all played it, it was against Seattle when they was about to kick off to us, and that did not end well.

Okay.

We come out there after that, though, and we do a hot three and out.

Like,

oh, you will.

Yeah.

Yeah, like three and out.

What?

Anyway, man,

get out here in the, you know, the defense.

they gave up a lot of yards, dude.

And

I didn't really much

appreciate the yardage that

my guys gave up.

But

we're back into it.

We ended up letting them boys score a touchdown.

When was it?

Yes.

That next, was it that next possession where you let them boys score a touchdown?

We ain't let them score a touchdown.

You know, we wasn't trying to let them score a touchdown.

And then when we, I think a lot of the stuff that we ended up doing at the end of the game, too, was our play calling.

When we ended up getting the ball back on fourth and we was not going for it on fourth down.

I understood.

I understood the one.

You understood it.

I understood.

Honestly, like

I understood the end of the

one, you know, first down.

of the end of the fourth down that he didn't go for.

And that basically is like, we're a bend, not break defense.

They're going to need room to bend.

Now, if you had went there, went for it and didn't get it, the yards that they ended up getting would have got them a field goal.

You see what I'm saying?

No, I feel it.

I feel it.

I just, I just think at the end of the day, I mean, no, what about the play that we went for when we went for it on fourth down?

When we did go for it on fourth down and they ended up, I think it was a good call that we went for it on fourth, but I think we could have just spread them out and passed it.

We tried to run.

It was fourth and goal from the four-yard line.

Obviously, we can hopefully be able to get the run, and hopefully, he scores.

But just with the option of having a rod to be able to spread, I think there's a lot more five-yard dink-dunk pass plays that you can do to get a touchdown in that

play than running the ball.

But see, that was another situation.

We went forward on fourth, didn't get it, and they ended up scoring the touchdown all the way from down there.

No, I mean, yeah,

that was the blow because that's the blow, that's the blown coverage.

You're saying with the, like, we on cover four on the side, we had Slay and my man, the safety step up.

And that was great effort by my man that walked him down, too.

Who was that?

It was a linebacker.

Um, what's his name?

Linebacker.

Oh, my goodness.

That man ran had to run 20-something miles an hour.

He was sliding.

No, or that receiver was slow.

I don't know.

It was probably a combination of both.

On the sliding and dude wasn't

what a normal receiver would be.

No, for sure.

But at that, I mean, I definitely know what you're saying.

That was just a blown coverage.

We went for it, and they ended up, like you said, they ended up scoring on that.

But goddamn, they had to drive, they had to go 90 yards.

Peyton Wilson, that's the name, bro.

Peyton Wilson.

22.

Yes, Peyton Wilson.

Shout out Payson Wilson.

Listen,

they say they say 228.

228 miles an hour.

22.48 miles an hour.

He went to go get it.

He went to go get that.

Yes, he did.

That boy is fast.

That boy is fast.

That's the effort you need.

That's the effort you need.

They're going to play that because he ended up saving a lot of time.

They would have scored a whole lot quicker.

He made him run a whole lot more plays and ended up getting in the end zone.

Oh, yeah.

They burnt off 61 seconds, bro.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

That definitely helped us, especially towards the end as they were, you know, as they were going down, getting a little stuff here and there.

And of course, you know,

we got the sack to close it out.

You know what I'm saying?

No, no, no, definitely.

The defense went out there, finished it, closed it out the way that they had to.

No.

Didn't let them get in field goal range.

No, that's great.

I just think

the two plays, I mean,

everything's

2020, 2020.

Hindsight is 2020.

But, you know, I would have just tried to run a pass there on that one.

And then on the last fourth, just...

not letting them get the ball back at all.

You know what I'm saying?

Everything worked out for me.

Yeah, I understand what it's saying, but like I'm saying, we're ahead.

We're ahead.

Yeah.

You would have done the same thing.

If we don't make it, we just gave them a short field.

They don't need three to tie it.

Who knows what happens in overtime?

Let me punt this ball, give my defense the opportunity.

We already at that time got five sacks.

We're pressuring him.

We're having, you know, we're having success.

I'm going to make you have to drive the field some length before you can get into field goal range to be able to kick it.

And, you know, that's exactly what they did.

Like I said, we're a defense that's, you know, Ben, don't, don't, don't break.

And sometimes we break, though.

So they need that room.

They need that room to bend.

You know, the good thing.

For sure.

Like, like you said, too,

you could do it both ways.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, if they, like you said, when they did, when we did go for it and they didn't get it, they still went down to score.

So still punting the ball off to the defense, putting them in a situation, whatever, like they could have still been able to get the touchdown.

But like you said, they needed some space to bend.

So I feel it both ways.

I just like, if you got the ball in your hands, don't give it, don't give them the opportunity, you know what I'm saying?

Like, it just, if you can close it out with a with a quick play, with one time, with a play, let's do it.

Yeah, the things I liked about this game is the options that they gave.

You know, they let Rogers have more control, especially with that run pass option.

If you don't like what he see, he goes ahead and dip it out.

That's nothing but a short run anyway.

And plus, you know, you get you get yards after the catch, hopefully.

The offensive line still,

they block better, you know, but you know, they still they still need to do a little bit better.

DK, of course, involved early.

That is a kiss.

You got to get him involved early.

Stiller's defense played the run better, dude.

They pressed the quarterback.

They got six sacks.

I think four, three or four were on third down.

They were just situationally better in that.

I loved it.

The other side, you know, things we can get better at is just protecting Rodgers better.

As a defense, we're giving up too many yards.

You know, at some point, the, you know, the bending, you know,

you bend too much.

At some point,

you're going to make it a little too weak.

It's going to start snapping.

You know?

No, for sure.

I think, I don't know, good or bad, that we're going to start to live and die by the blitz, though.

That's something that I saw.

Like, we were getting a lot of guys

up to the line and blitzing to try and slow down the run to put pressure on them for the pass.

It was a couple situations where they caught us in blitzes and they ended up getting yardage because he was able to see it and get the ball away in time.

I think

I definitely know what you're saying.

I mean, everything you were saying with the, I'm liking what I'm seeing the running game, the run, the defensive run game was a whole lot better.

With the blitzing part too, my only thing is, as long as we don't have people running scot-free, like if there's catch and tackles, if there's blitz, there's going to be little windows where people are going to be able to make plays, catch the ball, tackle.

If there's people running scot-free through our defense, that's just the only thing that I don't like.

We don't need those bis, those big miscues, those big explosive plays.

If we could just keep those down, you know what I'm saying?

Everything else would be fine.

Catch and tackle is going to happen.

Blitzing to stop the run, blitzing to put more pressure.

That's going to happen.

Bang, bang plays, catch and tackle.

But when people are running through our defense wide open and nobody's there, that's just the, that's just the thing that's going to mess it all the way up.

So the bin, but don't bring is always kind of going to be what we're going to do.

Make plays, being able to create turnovers, punching the balls out, being real.

You know what I'm saying?

Elliot making picks, TJ making picks.

We're always opportunistic, strip sack fumbles, getting after the quarterback, six, seven sacks this game.

You know what I'm saying?

So I think that is something that we're going to still be able to do.

But eliminating people running down your defense, these are going to be like 30-yard plays, 40-yard plays.

If you take down those, like we're having two or or three a game, that's 60-70 yards, you know what I'm saying, per uh, if you just knock off three plays, you know what I'm saying?

People running through our defense, so that your defense will be so much better, and it won't look as bad.

And everything is kind of flowing when you don't give up chunk plays, yeah, yeah.

But you know,

um, I think that was part of what you know, Cam had said last week, um, you know, when he was when he was talking, actually, when we talked about too, um,

with uh

the other man, TJ, that

that third quarter interception he had made him only the seventh player to have 100 sacks and eight interceptions in a career all time.

The other six,

they all in the Hall of Fame, baby.

Okay.

Thomas Taylor, Richard Dent, Chris Dolman, Jason Taylor, Julius Peppers, Ricky Jackson.

No question.

That's elite company.

That offensive man,

the yak monster.

Five yards an attempt, but

they say, uh,

whoa, the Stillers only average five yards per attempt in the air.

That's the fewest.

But

guess, get, guess who lead the league in yards after the catch?

Yak.

Stillis.

Still,

yeah, because you know, you getting into DK and you getting into Jared Warren.

Warren getting up out up out of there after, like, I think him and like Gibbs, you know what I'm saying, those running backs that just get the ball hands.

Like you can give them a little screen.

Any of those quick passes, those are extended runs.

Those are like no

for y'all, Rogers.

But once he gets missing that 20 yards, that's going to count all that.

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

For sure.

So all in all, I'm extremely, I'm extremely happy as you can see about my guys win.

Again,

I got to go, you know, do me another cigar.

I mean, I'm going to mess around.

If I get cancer, I'm going to put that on the stellar, you know.

Y'all don't win it too much, baby.

Don't win it.

Yeah, got you hitting them good stuff.

Let's get on over here to

your Browns, man.

God,

34

to 10.

What,

Joe, Joe, what happened, Joe?

Man,

so I mean,

it wasn't a good showing.

It wasn't a good showing.

First drive was amazing.

Everything looked good.

Flacco was doing what he needed to do.

But I'm just not,

I'm not a fan of Flacco anymore.

I'm wanting us to do, like, I mean, even if it's Dylan Gabriel, even if it's Dylan Gabriel or Shador Sanders, something kind of has to shake because I just don't think that he's giving us a chance.

to win anymore.

Like,

we understand the vet that's going to come through and be consistent, but if you're giving us zero touchdowns and two interceptions, that's not, you're hurting us more than you're, you're not, you're not, you're not just steadying the ship.

You're hurting us.

You know what I'm saying?

Like I can see, I can put somebody else, some, I can do bad all by myself.

So I can put somebody else in that can do different than this.

Like give us a spark, give us something.

I don't care if it's Shador.

I don't care if it's Dylan, but for the Browns now, I'm just over Flacco.

And the first drive, it was amazing.

He shows me that he can make plays to Judy, the touch pass and all that.

But then why, like the picks, the pick before, like, it's a miscommunication.

Why are you just launching the ball and throwing it over there?

Like, that's not a good play.

That's a bad play when we're trying to play against the Lions and beat them.

We're not going to win with that type of football.

So, I'm just kind of good on our defense.

You put us in bad situations, they can only fight for so long.

You know what I'm saying?

You keep putting us in bad situations and not in positions to win.

I love our defense.

They might not have played the best, but you got to realize, too, I think on

maybe three of the

scores that they had, I think maybe two touchdowns and one field goal, they were already

in

your territory.

Like it was, they're already on the other side.

I think it's like 35, 40, even closer on one of them.

Oh, my man, DJ V's pick.

He almost picked 60.

He went out of like the three yard line.

You know, you can't, like you said, he's hurting the defense.

If the defense is isn't on the field to even try and stop him, special teams didn't help either.

You know,

I mean, when you look at it, what is it?

You're looking at seven, seven, seven,

21.

You're looking at 24 points that was scored while the defense was either at a disadvantage or not even on the field.

Like, you can't.

So that's why I can't literally, I can't blame it on and say that, no, the Browns defense are playing bad.

They gave up 34 points.

Let's look how they gave up the 34 points.

Let's look at how far they had to travel to get these touchdowns.

And look who they're playing against.

They're not going against no bums.

I'm Ron Say Brown.

They're running great pick plays like on the thing.

They're making, they're making them fight for what they get.

So Lions went out there and played.

The Lions are a great team.

So you're not going to beat them if you're beating yourself when you don't have a good offense, putting your defense in a bad position.

That's not going to be, you know what I'm saying?

So, like, yeah, it's going to be a good thing.

But even when you look at them, dude, like you said, the defense didn't play bad.

Yes, they gave up points, but they're working with a short field.

Like in

three, four of those,

three of those situations.

The fourth one, they didn't even get to touch the field.

And they still only gave up like 275 yards or something, like 280 yards.

Brother, in the first half, in the first half, the Lions went three and out.

First drive, punt.

The second drive, they scored.

They went down the field, did they thing.

Third drive, they had a field goal and then punt, punt.

And then they got the ball on the one yard line from the pick.

I mean, three yard line from the pick by DJ Reed.

And they ended up getting the, they scored on like fourth down.

So the Browns defense, at the end of the day, they were performing at a high level, but you can't be backed up and be at the three yard line now and expect to, you know what I'm saying, do everything that you're supposed to do.

So I think that I just don't, I think it's a time for us to switch at quarterback.

for the Browns.

Just give us a spark.

Do something, something different.

I'm Shador, but if Dylan Gabriel is number two and he's number three, I don't care.

Put somebody else out there.

Let's see what they can do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's, like you said,

you got to go to the two.

You can't just jump to the three.

But I think now, you know what I'm saying?

Like,

everybody wants to see Shador.

I understand that, but they can't just jump from their one to their three.

You know what I'm saying?

They got a process that they would, you know, need to go through.

I just emotional.

Yeah,

you're very very emotional, you know, for a guy who's team one.

It's still,

I'm emotional because it's still as they did.

Did you hear my first?

Yeah, yeah, I heard you just said a lot of things, man.

You be double talking, man.

Let's get over here to Baltimore, man.

I know you're happy about that, man.

You happy about that Baltimore Kansas City game.

You know what, though?

At the end of the day, I am happy that the Ray, you know, if the Ravens are losing, you know, right now, especially when we want the Steelers and Browns in our division, i just feel bad for lamar because he's now i mean that once he went out the game obviously they didn't have a chance yeah that wasn't until late though but i mean even when i know but i'm saying it's still still still even with him in there the ravens team

is not the defense is terrible the defense is playing terrible and they're getting injuries the best player that was balling out there is my man the corner wiggins and he just went down and got hurt lamar jackson with a hamstring injury there's just so many guys out there that are hurt and are, I don't think they're performing that well.

Oh, they aren't.

So

on the defensive side of the ball.

Right, right.

I mean, they came out that first drive and they, you know, looked like they was about to do their thing.

You know, looked like it was little resistance, went down there.

And I'm like, okay.

And then Kansas City proceeds to do, what, 20 unanswered.

The next possession, they get a field goal.

They still get it.

The only reason they get a field goal is because in that drive they had a couple drops for passes that dudes you know they could have they could have actually you know held on to and and continued to drive

mara you know he gets his first pick again kansas city they go another i think it's 12 13 plays get another field goal

then five plays a touchdown you know

i don't know

Kansas City, their drive, they only, they had two, their first two drives were field goals.

And after that, it was just it was TDs.

Oh, no question, it was and then the Ravens went up for it on fourth down.

Don't get it, they turn it over on downs, they give Kansas City the short field six plays later.

We got another tutty

going for it on fourth down, too, but he and he threw the ball away on fourth down.

Like that, like that, that these are things I'm not getting.

You don't have a it's fourth down, you got to give somebody a chance.

You don't do nothing but throw that thing all the way to the back at the safety, give yourself an opportunity to get more field

something something make it a make it a punt like throw it deep deep you know what i'm saying because at the end of the day the ball from that right there you know what i'm saying so nothing worse can happen and then pick six in it but like throw it deep high something yeah give somebody

somebody go be one of them dbs gonna be thirsty and try and grab onto that thing for sure not realizing you just went overhead did a did an interception punt you know what i'm saying i'm gonna pick that i'm gonna pick that 1000 no question no dbs gonna nobody gonna bat that ball yeah then after they do the six play touchdown drive drive, Lamar, he fumbles the rock, but they got a break.

Kansas City missed the field goal.

So they went on ahead.

They actually, you know, took advantage of that one.

They went on ahead and made a 10-20 then.

They first drive was good when they scored.

And then their last drive going into the halftime, they got a field goal.

Those were the two best that they got right there.

Yeah, and then the second half was just basically more of the same, you know, with Kansas City.

I think the Ravens got a a field goal early there and then from there lamar ended up kansas city came out kansas city came out at halftime and scored yeah it was like i said it was more of the same you know from the first half

but lamar once lamar got hurt you know

that was that was really it man

When they put Rush in and he did the same thing, he looked like he was scared as hell out there.

His first series that he did, you saw he threw the ball away on fourth down, too.

Oh, he threw it all the way away.

Yeah, I'm like, bro, the year he thought he got another down or something.

I don't know what that was.

Yeah, because then he stood there like, like, it was a fifth down.

I'm like, no, go to the sideline.

You're out.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, you just wowed out.

He's standing there like, like, it's fifth down.

I'm like, what are you doing?

I mean, you were nervous out there.

Yeah, the Ravens, they got,

they got some.

Now you got Lamar hurt, which was the only thing that really kept you in the fight in any of these games because the defense is trash okay and now that they missing six starters they super trash okay

bro

like the offense they made like they they they couldn't even run the ball no more like they only handed the ball off they only ran the ball a total of 10 times in the first half bro and five of those was Lamar.

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Yeah,

I couldn't, they said they gave a stat where in the first, in like like the last eight quarters, it was during like the second quarter of that game, Derrick Henry only carried the ball like eight times, eight to ten times in the last six quarters.

Like a lot of that time, they were down.

So, you know, that I understand, but a lot of the time that they were down, they had a lot of time to try and come back.

You know what I'm saying?

It wasn't like they were.

I'm with you.

I'm saying, I don't think they need to, they need to use him.

Oh, yeah.

I know he's fumbling, but if you're not going to use him and you're just going to do what you've been doing, you might as well let that man go cut him, do something because you ain't using him, you're paying him a whole bunch of money.

Like, we're gonna have to work through this, he's gonna have to, you know, he's gonna have to figure this whole ball security thing out.

Like, we can't have you sitting on the sideline and not know what you can do, we just need you to hold on to the rock.

Yeah, the worst thing that could have possibly happened, though, to the Ravens was the only reason why anything is still going semi-possible good is because of Lamar Jackson.

They do have him on the team, and they know that he can be able to try to make things shake.

If he's hurt, he's hurt.

He's out

for how long is he out?

That's that hamstring.

You know, you come back too early.

You ain't nothing but one too hard of a takeoff trying to, you know, open up away from pulling that thing again.

So how long do they let him sit out?

Till he's 100, till he 80, till he 85, till he 90?

Like what you do?

He's a running quarterback.

So you're going to have to make sure you get him as healthy as possible.

Because if you go out there and you re-injure something that's already injured, you know, it's going to be worse.

It's going to be longer.

Oh, for sure.

I mean, look,

it's his interest is making sure that he's healthy and returns at 100%.

So he can always, he has a long career left and he wants to be able to play as long as he can.

And then it's going to be, what is the Ravens' interest?

Because you got my man Rush out there looking like he doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

So they're going to be like, if we're going to keep, if we're going to be losing games, until Lamar, like, we need you back quick.

Because

from my perspective, it doesn't look too good for the Ravens.

It doesn't look like the defense,

they're continuing to lose players and they're just not playing well so if they lose lamar and their defense is not playing well they're loot they're continuing to lose better players like wiggins it's not there's no i don't see a plan for them to get any better right now so from our last question that we had about is their window closing yes well now the window is definitely closing it's looking crazy

like they're not getting healthier yeah the players that you do out there aren't performing and even when they were there the defense was still doing some boo-boo.

Man, you got Lamar, he done suffered the hamstring.

You know, Baltimore is one and three for the first time since 2015, two games behind.

Guess who?

My stillness in the AFC are still.

Sorry, I keep saying my.

I'm sorry about that, man.

The Ravens, our

Stillers, our Stillers.

I got you.

We, we, we, we, we.

The defense, the Ravens defense is allowing 33.3

points per game, dude.

That's the worst in the NFL right now, bro.

You can't win like that.

Like,

can't win like that.

What's your move?

What's your move?

What's your next move?

Like, what are you going to do over there?

Hardball, what you going to do?

You hardball.

I don't know.

That's why

it doesn't look, I don't know the answer.

I don't know the the answer, Sway.

I don't know.

Because, like, yeah, that's what he's getting paid the big bucks.

But, like, health-wise, you just got to have, I mean, they're not making tackles.

Like, it just doesn't look like a good brand of defense at all.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, are people in the right positions?

People are missing tackles.

People are blowing coverages.

Like,

I mean,

that's a

Kansas City now.

They, they also got, they got, they got Xavier Worthy back now.

They got the, and they had their biggest scoring day in more than two years man is it

you think you think kc back

this is

never left i think they just need they never they they ain't go nowhere

you got patty mahomes he's standing upright with andy reed you know what i'm saying they got chris jones on defense my man 22 on the corner is balling they have a good defense you know what i'm saying they may not be the one of the best in the league but they're very very opportunistic you know what i'm saying they're not just people running scot-free.

So them playing,

them playing,

when you had Patrick Mahomes and we want him to be throwing for 400 yards, five touchdowns, what he normally does, this is just execution.

This is just great quarterback play, being able to get everybody involved.

Thor Hill, being able to throw it to your running backs, being able to get it to Travis Kelsey, being able to, being able to use your run game, even if it's not effective, being able to still make sure you can lean on it, hand the ball off.

So sometimes there is one-on-one coverages back there so i think that

the chiefs they they've been in they've been playing football for so long patrick mahomes is such a great quarterback that he's not worried about it they're trying to get their team together he's going to get everybody involved they didn't have a lot of their rice still isn't there they lost worthy first game of the season so they still just trying to play and figure it out but they know it's a long season and as long as travest I mean, as long as Patrick Mahomes is healthy, they're always going to have a chance.

So them just being able to show like him still being able to get it to all these receivers, guys, getting back into the group, Juju, you know what I'm saying, being like just having a good quarterback like that and having comparable receivers that can be a bad thing.

I was gonna say that

you gotta have receivers that can

catch the ball.

I don't, I don't care how, you know,

how great they are at doing everything else, as long as they can catch the ball, he's gonna get it to them.

They secure that ball, he's gonna get it to them.

Like,

I, it's, it's, it's almost like a, you know, like, like a Tom Brady, You know what I'm saying?

Where you get the receiver, long as he can catch, you're going to be able to move the rock.

It don't matter.

And the one thing I

said, and the thing too with them was they were still, they were trying to get the run game going a little bit for them.

They were handing it to Pacheco, giving it to Hunt.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, they might not have been getting the most yards, but just still.

You got to keep them honest.

You can't have them sitting there pinning their ears back.

They got a few runs here and there that made them be like, okay, they'll run the ball.

So we got to make sure that, you know, we're not sitting here just taking off upfield, leaving wide open running lanes, you know, leaving vertical holes that people can slide through.

Yep.

Yep.

So yeah, the Chiefs, man, they just have a full, they have a, they have a good team.

They've been here before.

You know what I'm saying?

They're tried and tested.

They've been deep in the playoff runs.

They made real runs.

They know what it takes to win.

They know how long the season is.

So I just love seeing them just knowing it's early.

We're still trying to get better.

They're getting better.

They're going in the trajectory of this, getting players back, people not getting hurt.

You know what I'm saying?

People returning, not just people going away.

So, I think that their trajectory is going up when you're looking at the Ravens, the opposite, just people going down, defense not playing too well.

It's not looking good on that side, but on the Chiefs, just being able to get right, being able to just, you know what I'm saying, work, work while the season's going.

Speaking of work,

we ain't had no defense out there with uh with Green Bay and Dallas, man.

No, sir.

40 to 40 tie.

That's like,

that's worth

the tie.

Like, I mean, I understand they don't want guys playing, you know, long and deep.

Yeah, all that extra, and especially, you know, when it's a regular season game, you know, you don't have the same rules in the playoffs.

But

a tie is like going out there and you just did all that for nothing.

Like, I i want to give me a loss or win like we got to figure out a way don't college like shorten the field and have you at like the 20 or something yeah at the 20 let's do let's do that for you know whatever that time frame is or until somebody don't score a touchdown like or a field goal yeah

you know i like something

when you walk in a stadium you plan to walk out with the did i win or did i lose you know what i'm saying i'm definitely you know what's so crazy though

it's 2025 i feel like

i feel like dallas thought they won because it was a tie

i swear dude like that's what i felt like man i knew i knew dallas you know they wasn't gonna play no defense i didn't know green bay wasn't gonna show up They supposed to be a top 10 defense.

I believe they number eight.

They only giving up about 280 yards, 285 yards a game, 75 rushing,

another 205 passing.

and you let Dallas go out here for 117 rushing, almost 320 passing.

You gave up almost 500 yards of total offense, and Dak bust your head.

31 of 40, three tugs, only got sacked once,

319 yards.

He did the whole total of what y'all give up in passing by itself.

Oh, yeah, Dak had a a field day that had a field day he went crazy and uh my man shout out george picking oh no question we already knew what that was though oh

he woke up and he had to slide into the number one since cd went so you know he was going to get them options he was going to get a lot more opportunities and that dude is a number one he showed he could do it sometimes you know it's just a little bit of he had the little dropsy sometimes but that game right there he spazzed and he showed how how he can ball i was a little i was definitely surprised with the packers defense though them dudes they've been getting after people.

They've been getting after people.

I'll give them that.

But since that rookie ran his mouth talking about an undefeated season, they ain't defeated nobody.

Okay.

Now you let Dallas do this while they missing two of their starting linemen and they receiver.

No CD.

No CD

and put up a 40-piece on you is actually crazy and they and i know they was geek too michael parsons didn't get no you got one sack overtime

ah that one sack in overtime but too little too late like

i mean if he didn't get it i think dak would have scored though he'd have scored that touchdown though but oh he needed it i don't yeah

i don't i don't know what what's what's going on over there in Green Bay with

the defensive side of the ball.

I understand, Dallas, that's just what they go do.

You know, they're dead last, I think, in defense now.

It's understandable.

It's understandable.

I think they might average giving up over 420 yards a game, something like that.

So, yeah,

I just didn't see.

I just didn't see.

I just didn't see this happening with the defense just not showing up at all.

I expected, I mean,

I expected the Cowboys defense to probably give up a lot of points.

Yes.

I was not expecting the Packers defense to give up this many points.

Yeah, I thought it was going to be a thing where they just couldn't keep up with the Packers, you know, scoring.

You know what I'm saying?

Because,

nope,

that wasn't the case.

That went out there and hooped.

He only likes, like you said, eight incompletion passes, man.

That was amazing.

And George was getting off.

Yeah, it's out of control, though.

Dallas giving up over 420 yards a game, bro.

Yeah, that's not, that's not going to win games.

And I think in the second, it's big plays.

It's huge plays.

Dude, I think Green Bay gave up more yards than Dallas this game, bro.

I think Green Bay gave up

like

489, something like that.

Like, and I think Dallas gave up like maybe 430-something.

I mean, they gave up a little above the average, but you know, they was on queue.

We knew what they was going to do.

I just think that

when I look at, yeah, they had, they, they still gave up a bunch of yards, but when I look at Dallas's defense, I just need to, I just don't see, I don't see effort, which is what, what, what makes me feel like, you know what I'm saying?

I think maybe with the, with the, with the Packers, it's, it's, the effort maybe be there.

You know what I'm saying?

They just got to do that.

That just was a bad game.

I just see when I look at Dallas, I just don't see like they're flying to the ball like they want to, like they want to hit somebody, if you know what I'm saying.

Oh.

yeah, yeah, for sure.

I guess I was wrong, buddy.

They gave up four, Dallas gave up the 489.

Green Bay gave up the 436.

Correction.

Yeah, that's correction.

Yeah, that's about that's 500.

Yeah, they gave up way more than the average, but

dude, Green Bay gave up almost 150, 170 yards more.

Like, that's that's out of control.

to Dallas, of all people.

Like, come on, man.

Without that number, without

out.

Almost half your starting online.

And CD.

Yeah.

We're going to see what's going on with them.

They got to do better.

But you know what we're going to talk about, too?

What you got?

The Giants.

Okay.

How you feel about the Giants beating the Chargers?

Well, the Giants beat the Chargers and Malik neighbors towards ACL.

Yeah,

that was bad.

That.

Yeah.

The Giants.

What do you listen?

I think it was another one of them situations where you know the other team coming in there

i believe they was playing at home you know and then

you thinking you go get something that you don't get the rookies first game starting they thinking it's gonna be a cakewalk and they ain't realize that this boy came out mahomes he's standing upright with andy reed you know i'm saying they got chris jones on defense my man 22 on the corner is balling they have a good defense you know what i'm saying they may not be the one of the best in the league but they're very very opportunistic.

You know what I'm saying?

They're not just people running scot-free.

So them playing,

them playing,

when you had Patrick Mahomes and we want him to be throwing for 400 yards, five touchdowns, what he normally does, this is just execution.

This is just great quarterback play, being able to get everybody involved.

Thor Hill, being able to throw it to your running backs, being able to get it to Travis Kelsey, being able to...

being able to use your run game, even if it's not effective, being able to still make sure you can lean on it, hand the ball off so sometimes there is one-on-one coverages back there so i think that

the chiefs they they've been in they've been playing football for so long patrick mahomes is such a great quarterback that he's not worried about it they're trying to get their team together he's going to get everybody involved they didn't have a lot of their rice still isn't there they lost worthy first game of the season so they still just trying to

play and figure it out but they know it's a long season and as long as travest i mean as long as patrick mahomes is healthy they're always going to have a chance so them just being able to show like him still being able to get it to all these receivers, guys, getting back into the group, Juju, you know what I'm saying?

Being like just having a good quarterback like that and having comparable receivers that can be a bad thing.

I was going to say that

you got to have receivers that can

catch the ball.

I don't care how, you know,

how great they are at doing everything else.

As long as they can catch the ball, he's going to get it to them.

They secure that ball, he's going to get it to them.

Like,

it's almost like uh you know like like a tom brady you know what i'm saying where you you get the receiver long as he can catch you're going to be able to move the rock it don't matter and the one thing i

i said and the thing too with them was they were still they were trying to get the run game going a little bit for them they were handing it to pacheco giving it to hunt you know i'm saying like they might not have been getting the most yards but just still you got to keep them honest you can't have them sitting there pinning their ears back you know you know they got a few runs here and there that made them be like okay they'll run the ball so we got to make sure that you know we're not sitting here just taking off upfield leaving wide open running lanes you know leaving vertical holes that people can slide through

yep yep so yeah the the chiefs man they just have a full they have a they have a good team they've been here before you know what i'm saying they're they're they're tried and tested they've been deep in the playoff runs they made real runs they know what it takes to win they know how long the season is so i just love seeing them just knowing it's early.

We're still trying to get better.

They're getting better.

They're going in the trajectory of this, getting players back, people not getting hurt.

You know what I'm saying?

People returning, not just people going away.

So I think their trajectory is going up.

When you're looking at the Ravens, the opposite, just people going down, defense not playing too well.

It's not looking good on that side.

But on the Chiefs, just being able to get right, being able to just, you know what I'm saying, work, work while the season's going.

Speaking of work,

we ain't had no defense out there with Green Bay and Dallas, man.

No, sir.

40 to 40 tie.

That's that's like

that's worth

the tie.

Like, I mean, I understand they don't want guys playing, you know, long and deep, yeah, all that extra, and especially, you know, when it's a regular season game, you know, you don't have the same rules in the playoffs.

But

a tie is like going out there and you just did all that for nothing.

Like, I want to give me a loss or a win.

Like, we got to figure out a way.

Don't college like shorten the field and have you at like the 20 or something?

Yeah, at the 20.

Let's do that for, you know, whatever that timeframe is or until somebody don't score a touchdown like or a field goal.

Yeah.

You know, I like.

When you walk in a stadium,

you plan to walk out with the, did I win or did I lose?

You know what I'm saying?

I'm definitely.

You know

crazy.

It's 2025.

I feel like Dallas thought they won because it was a tie.

I swear, dude, like, that's what I felt like, man.

I knew Dallas, you know, they wasn't going to play no defense.

I didn't know Green Bay wasn't going to show up.

They're supposed to be a top 10 defense.

I believe they number eight.

They only giving up about 280 yards, 285 yards a game, 75 rushing,

another 205 passing.

And you let Dallas go out here for 117 rushing, almost 320 passing.

You gave up almost 500 yards of total offense.

And Dak bust your head.

31 of 40, three tugs, only got sacked once.

319 yards.

He did the whole total of what y'all give up in passing by itself.

Oh, yeah.

Dak had a field day.

Dak had a field day.

He went crazy.

And my man, shout out George Pickens.

Oh, no question.

We already knew what that was, though.

Oh,

he woke up and he had to slide into the number one since CD went.

So, you know, he was going to get them options.

He was going to get a lot more opportunities.

And that dude is a number one.

He showed he could do it sometimes.

You know, just a little bit of, he had the little dropsy sometimes, but that game right there, he spazzed and he showed how he can ball.

I was a little, I was definitely surprised with the Packers' defense.

Them dudes, they've been getting after people.

Listen,

they've been getting after people.

I'll give them that.

But since that rookie ran his mouth, talking about an undefeated season, they ain't defeated nobody.

Okay.

Now you let Dallas do this while they're missing two of their starting linemen and they receiver.

No CD

and put up a 40 piece on you is actually crazy.

And I know they was geeked too.

Michael Parsons didn't get no CD.

He got one sack overtime.

Ah.

Got one sack in overtime.

But too little, too late.

Like,

I mean, if he didn't get it, I think Dak would have scored, though.

He'd have scored that touchdown, though.

Oh, he needed it.

I don't.

Yeah.

I don't know what's going on over there in Green Bay with the defensive side of the ball.

I understand, Dallas.

That's just what they go do.

You know, they're

dead last, I think, in defense now.

It's understandable.

It's understandable.

I think they might average giving up over 420 yards a game, something like that.

So, yeah,

I just didn't see.

I just didn't see, I just didn't see this happening with the defense not just not showing up at all.

I expected, I mean,

I expected the Cowboys defense to probably give up a lot of points.

Yes.

I was not expecting the Packers defense to give up this many points.

Yeah, I thought it was going to be a thing where they just couldn't keep up with the with the Packers, you know, scoring.

You know what I'm saying?

Because,

nope,

that wasn't the case.

That went out there and hooped.

He only only likes, like you said, eight incompletion passes, man.

That was amazing.

And George was getting off.

Yeah, it's out of control, though.

Dallas giving up over 420 yards a game, bro.

Yeah, that's not going to win games.

And I think in the second, it's big plays.

It's huge plays.

Dude, I think Green Bay gave up more yards than Dallas this game, bro.

I think Green Bay gave up

like

489, something like that.

Like, and I think Dallas gave up like maybe 430-something.

I mean, they gave up a little above the average, but you you know, they was on cue.

We knew what they was going to do.

I just think that

when I look at, yeah, they had, they still gave up a bunch of yards, but when I look at Dallas's defense, I just need to, I just don't see, I don't see effort, which is what, what, what makes me feel like, you know what I'm saying?

I think maybe with the, with the, with the Packers, is the effort maybe be there.

You know what I'm saying?

They just got to do that.

That just was a bad game.

I just see when I look at Dallas, I just don't see like they're flying to the ball.

Like they want to, like they want to hit somebody, if you know what i'm saying oh yeah yeah for sure i guess i was wrong buddy they gave up four dallas gave up the 489 green bay gave up the 436.

correction yeah that's correction yeah that's about that's 500.

yeah they gave up way more than the average but

dude green bay gave up almost 150 170 yards more like that's that's out of control to to dallas of all people like come on man

without that number without

out almost half your starting on line and cd

yeah

we're gonna see what's going on with them they got to do better but you know we're gonna talk about too what you got

the giants okay

how you feel about the giants beating the chargers well the giants beat the chargers and Malik neighbors towards ACL.

Yeah,

that was bad.

That.

Yeah.

The Giants.

What do you listen?

listen i think it was another one of them situations where you know the other team coming in there

i believe they was playing at home you know and then

you thinking you go get something that you don't get the rookies first game starting they thinking it's gonna be a cakewalk and they ain't realize that this boy came out

go ahead and give everybody the juke jerk and all the other stuff And

they're not set up like that.

But I think he'll do decent.

I think you got to give him, you know, a year or two, maybe, maybe three to actually be able to, you know, get used to it, spread his wings and keep going.

But from what I just saw, I think he's going to be all right.

I don't, I don't, and I'm not saying he's about to go out here and, you know, tear the league up, but I think he'll be all right.

Middle of the pack.

He was giving me Bo Nick's vibes a little bit, man.

I'm not going to lie.

And that's not a bad thing because Bo Nick's has been doing good for the Broncos, and nobody really expected him to be what he is.

And they're winning games, and I'm not mad at him at all.

So, from Jackson Dart, he was giving me a little bit of Bo Nicks and what he first did.

Hey, he first came in, nobody really knew what to expect, and use his legs, being able to not mess it up, don't turn the ball over.

You know what I'm saying?

Extend some plays.

So, it looked good, it looked good.

Yeah, let's go down south, man.

Tampa in Philly

3125.

That game was not really as close as the score says.

I think the Eagles just basically dominated the first half.

Come out

and special teams start off what they did last week.

They block a punt and run it in, you know, for a touchdown.

Like

that, that started the game off.

Yeah, that's not what you're looking for, man.

And something else, too, was like Philly's like actual first possession dude it was like six seven pass plays i think it was only one run and they scored the touchdown it's 14 nothing

like tampa bay

you know if they didn't get um

the uh 15 yard personal foul the next thing

you know,

that's what allowed them to score the field goal that they got, like that next possession.

So

i think it's you know back and forth they start start doing a little punt here but again

the punt dude does is short he basically shanks the punt and he gives them a short feel they come out pass heavy again letting y'all know like yo hurts can do this we he he that he he that dude you know 21 to 3

immediately you know what i'm saying this is

and

the eagles bro,

that's what I'm saying.

When you don't have to get that many, it doesn't matter how you're scoring.

It doesn't matter.

It might not look too good.

The stats might not be as big, but you up 21-3 and you ain't really did nothing.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's not Jalen Hurts's bad.

That's not nobody's bad.

That's just a good team.

I'll be up 21-3.

It don't matter what the score is.

They ended up going

24-3.

Philly ended up coming back out like 14-play drive, ended up settling for a field goal.

But again, like

that's like they're basically in control from the jump it wasn't really anything that that that tampa had did in the first half except for kick a 65 yard field goal to make it like six to 24.

and hell the first half dude hurts was i think he only missed one pass he only they only had one incompletion Tampa only had 100 yards of all no 99 yards of offense bro they had 99 yards of offense

like the first half was just I I think it was, it just came down to being too much for them to

overcome.

The D, Tampa's, I'm not Tampa, but Philly's defense, dude, they contested everything.

They was tackling everything, shoring up tackles, dude, catch the ball, boom.

You know, they, they tackling them as soon as they get it.

That whole, that whole, like, it was, I'm like, wow, they ain't gonna be a, they ain't getting no yacht.

They ain't gonna get nothing out that.

Yep.

No, that's the Eagles.

That's the Eagles' defense.

They play with passion.

They swarm to the ball.

They was able to get after it.

So like that's

they're great.

They're good.

They're a good team.

And like when

he threw for two touchdowns, 15 for 24, my man Jalen Hurts, two touchdowns, zero picks.

It's not going to wow you.

It's not going to wow anybody, but you know, it's going to wow is when they win the game and they're able to walk out of the stadium again, like continuing to win.

So it may not be that impressive.

And I i think that's why at the end of the day too when hey how do you feel so let's get the eagles win all that aj brown at the end of the day with his tweets you know what i'm saying like i don't understand that i don't know what it means

what is it in reference to it's

i feel like

what it say

if you're not welcome not listened to quietly withdraw don't make a scene shrug your shoulders and be on your way he's trying to basically say, like, for me reading it in, he's trying to say

he's feeling not welcome, not listened to.

He wants the ball, but if nobody's listening to him, he's just shrugging his shoulders and he's going about his way.

But I'm like, that's just,

it's a receiver that wants to get the ball and wants to,

it's a receiver that wants the ball.

Period.

Well, I mean, you're not really doing that if that's why you're tweeting it out.

You're actually telling everybody, you're not just shrugging your shoulders and walking away.

You're,

I know, I know, you're making a scene by tweeting it out.

If you weren't just say anything and you could just do this like after the, at, at the end of the year, anything you tweet is going to, that's basically you saying

everything, everything you said contradicted what you were saying, like, or what you was thinking.

I don't know.

It's a contradiction.

It's a thing, Debo, you know how I mean.

You just, yeah, that's exactly what it is.

So when we was like, you just,

when you're playing and you feel you want to get, I don't know, this isn't the right way to do it, but it's just like the players, when you do tweet something about this, you know exactly what you're doing.

Yeah, you everybody's going to talk about it.

And then you go tweet at Twitter.

That's not, I don't, that's not you sitting back and just doing nothing, man.

Speaking of frustration, man, Cam Ward,

he said.

Hey, he kept it a bean, didn't he?

Dude, all the way a bean, dude.

He was a little frustrated, man.

You think he was too honest?

Like, you think it was, let's take a listen to it so you can hear exactly what he said, man.

I mean, we're keeping the bulk right now.

We asked.

So we 0-4.

We have, this one, we got nothing to lose.

We dropped a quarter of our games, and we've yet to do anything.

So we have to lock in,

especially myself on the offensive line.

From the defensive line, from the special teams to all three faces, we have to play together.

We have not played together this year yet.

And that's just something that you know we want to preach about it every day every day we got to do better and we're doing that but it has to show up on sundays it hasn't showed up yet but it got to show up next week

what do you think joe

hey bro this all i'm gonna say

he kept that shit 1000 if you want to ask him how he feels on that in a particular moment i really feels like he felt this way 100 and that we playing like ass and i'm the quarterback of this team.

I'm like ass.

So, offensive line, defensive line, we preach this.

Like, we got to play to a certain standard and we want to be good.

But, like, end of the day, I'm not mad at him for saying this, but no, sometimes you have to get it off your line.

He ain't even, he ain't go to Twitter.

He said it lie right there.

No, he said live in front of you.

So, y'all, I'm gonna say it live right there.

I'm gonna let you get it.

This is what it is.

This is how I feel.

I ain't gonna throw out no cryptics and all that.

This is what it is.

I'm playing like trash.

I'm playing like trash.

Everybody need to get this together.

We asked and

something got to be done.

We need to get it done.

I have absolutely

ready, ready.

Have zero problems with that.

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