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Speaker 15 Yeah, Ocho. You was going to say, Uh, you can't say foot or ball.

Speaker 15 33 in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 15 That's what I say. Hey, I want y'all to let them get out there.
Everybody, because everybody, Unc ain't going to be able to say foot of all. Now, what y'all saying now?

Speaker 17 You feeling good?

Speaker 15 I feel great.

Speaker 15 I feel great. I feel better than you.
Feel better than you. Yep.
Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know who I am.
I'm your favorite Unc, Shell and Sharp.

Speaker 15 As you can tell, you have Bronco geared. We did what we do.
All we do is win, win, win. That's what we do.

Speaker 15 Thank you for joining us after the San Francisco 49ers move to 5-2 as they take down the Atlanta Falcons 20 to 10. Atlanta falls to 3-3.

Speaker 15 I am your favorite unc, Shannon Sharp. That is my partner and co-host.
He's Liberty City's own. He's Bingle Ring of Fame Monterey, former Pro Bowler, All-Pro.
He's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson.

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Speaker 15 Thank you guys for your support. Thank you.
It's night like this. You know what? Hold on.
What not the five heartbeats? It's nice like this. I wish

Speaker 15 would rain would fall.

Speaker 15 Oh, yo, thank you again, guys, for support, for the support. We greatly, greatly appreciate that.
Ocho and I, we have a great time doing this.

Speaker 15 My team is better than his, and unfortunately, it's going to be a long night for him. A very, very, very long,

Speaker 17 give me a minute. Give me a minute.
Your team is better than mine. Last time I checked, my team won Thursday night.
We didn't lose a game.

Speaker 15 how many games y'all won who

Speaker 17 the bingles oh we are better than y'all let's let's let's not

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Speaker 15 C-Mac led him in rushing, 24 carries, a buck 29, two tubs. He also led him in receiving, seven catches, 72 yards, along a 17 on eight targets.

Speaker 15 He was missed to everything, and they relied heavily on him. And that's what you're supposed to do.
And the defense got out the penics.

Speaker 15 They didn't really sack him a whole bunch, but they pressured him. They hurried him up.
They made it rush his throws. And they went a ball game.
They're now moved to 5-2 as the Falcons fall to 3-3.

Speaker 15 ocho watching this game what did you like about what you saw from the 49ers who you know we they have lost the best defensive player bosa the best defensive player

Speaker 15 and fred warner you know they they they they've been banged up their quarterback starting quarterback 50 million dollar quarterback he's out iuk he's out uh kittle just came back today but somehow kyle shanahan has pieced it together kept this team together and they're five and two hey listen mac jones has been done a hell of a job he's done a hell of a job in filling in for Rock Purdy after Brock Purdy went down.

Speaker 17 It seems like they haven't missed a beat offensively, despite the injuries obviously on both sides of the ball. Kittle come back today.
I don't really like the way they use Kittle Tony.

Speaker 17 They've used him as if he's a blocking tight end. Didn't really give him anything on the offensive side.
Offensive side of the ball, you know, through the air.

Speaker 17 But Christian McCaffrey leading the way, not only on the ground, but also in the air.

Speaker 17 They had Jawan Jennings, who I expected to be more of a contributor after just, you know, just paying him, allowing him to get a feel for the offense and get some passes kendrick bourne who just went crazy last week if i'm not mistaken just went crazy previous week yes and he wasn't as effective as he was from offensive standpoint for them but they still won the game on the other side on the other side of the ball the falcons onk it was obviously a snooze fest if you watched the game i'm not sure if you watched you might have watched it with the sound with the sound off if you watched it with the sound off you might have been sleep

Speaker 17 it wasn't exciting at all it wasn't exciting at all they kept trying to do the same plays over and over outside zone outside zone, outside zone, but they couldn't really get Bijan free.

Speaker 17 He couldn't bust one open tonight. Kyle Pitts, they had some plays, but they got in the ball.
Drake London.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I thought he was involved. He had 10 targets tonight, Ocho.

Speaker 17 But

Speaker 17 it just wasn't enough.

Speaker 15 Look, teams, look, they're going to have to beat teams throwing the football. Teams are not going to let B.
John Robinson. We know what Bijan Robinson can do.

Speaker 15 We're not going to let him have the type of game that Christian McCaffrey had. You remember the other night, Ocho? Against Buffalo? We saw what he did.
He ran the ball ball and he received the hit.

Speaker 15 We're not letting him do that. If Drake, if Michael Pennix Jr.
can drop back and throw the ball and beat us, so be it. But

Speaker 15 we're not going to let that running back beat us because he's special. We understand just how special he is.
You're going to have to beat up.

Speaker 15 Your quarterback's going to have to beat us from the pocket.

Speaker 15 And you look.

Speaker 15 Actually, I want to put him on the move because he's not nearly as accurate on the move as he is on the pocket.

Speaker 15 And you notice they brought some pressure to get him on the move and he was inaccurate uh 21 of 38 uh 241 one touchdown was sacked twice hurried a bunch um but they steinmed him running the football old joe 20 carries 62 yards that's not good enough that's that is not nearly good enough uh

Speaker 15 um um for this team in order to win because they have to have somewhere and that's when they're at their best when they can get algier running the football when they can get bijan robinson running the football that's when they're absolute that's when they're the falcons are at their best And tonight, they couldn't get the running game.

Speaker 15 And so they became so reliant on the passing game. And I don't think Pennix Jr.
is there yet. Drake London had 10 targets on the four catches.

Speaker 15 As you mentioned, Kyle Pitts had 10 targets. He did have seven catches for 62 yards, which was probably one of his better games thus far this year.

Speaker 15 But in order for the Falcons to be what they think they can be, especially with this offensive firepower, it starts with that running back. It starts with him.

Speaker 15 He is the,

Speaker 15 look, he might not be, he's the, he's the, uh, the spoon. Right.
Stir it. Now, he might not be the sugar.
He might not necessarily be the tea.

Speaker 15 But if you just dump sugar and tea in there and puts water in there, hey, all the things is going to go to the bottom. He stirs it.

Speaker 15 He makes everything swirl. He makes everything better.

Speaker 17 If he makes everything better and he makes everything go offensively, when you have a night like tonight, when the 49ers say, obviously the second level did one hell of a job with Fred Warner being gone, Nick Bossie being gone.

Speaker 17 The second level did a hell of a job in stopping B. John Robinson.
So, what's the next thing you have to go to? You have to go through the arm. You have to go through your passing game.

Speaker 17 Drake London, Mooney, Kyle Pitts, all those guys have to be able to contribute to the offensive game plan and allowing Michael Pennington Jr. to flourish through the air.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Speaker 15 What happened?

Speaker 15 It hurt.

Speaker 17 Why you took your helmet off, huh?

Speaker 17 Hey, anyway, Chad, I think for Michael Pennington Jr., if the run game is not working with Bijan Robinson, he has to be able to get back there and throw the ball. He has to.

Speaker 17 And then, Uncle, they throwing smoke screens. They throwing smoke screens to Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 15 You heard me? Yeah.

Speaker 17 They throwing smoke screens to Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 17 That does nothing for him.

Speaker 17 That does nothing for him. He's not that kind of player and he's not that twisted.
catch the ball

Speaker 17 and face somebody up and make moves. That's not what he does.
You put him in positions like you did on the third down

Speaker 17 out there, you know, know and you put him out at receiver and you have complete mismatches use them that way but i mean listen i think they misuse him a little bit um

Speaker 15 outside outside of that i i don't i mean look oh i would have liked to play in today's game and catch because i'm gonna have a bunch of catches because they throw so many screens and shuffle passes to the uh to the tight ends and all that stuff but i put me down the field i'm trying to get down the field I ain't got to worry about nobody.

Speaker 15 I ain't got to worry about the receiver kicking out somebody or the tackle kicking out somebody or the running back blocking somebody. Send me down the damn field.

Speaker 15 I know what coverage it is and so I know I'm vulnerable. So, but look, this is a big win for the 49ers.
And this is what you like.

Speaker 15 When you sign a backup quarterback, you want your backup quarterback to be able to hold a fort down until your starter comes back.

Speaker 15 I still believe, I firmly believe they should have stayed exactly where they were. Took Mac Jones.
You don't have to give up anything. Now,

Speaker 15 those those picks, those first-round picks and those second-round picks that you had to give up, think about what you could have done. Because they do a good job of drafting.

Speaker 15 They do a great job of identifying a player and developing said player. They do a great job of that.

Speaker 15 But Brock Purdy saved them, but going to get Mac Jones has really helped them out this year because I'm not so sure Mac Jones has been a starter. He's been a Pro Bowl player.

Speaker 15 He understands he's perfect for this system. He doesn't have a big arm.
He has great anticipatory skills. He can throw on time and he understands.
He's a smart guy. He's not mobile.
He's not.

Speaker 15 But

Speaker 15 he can do what Kyle Shanahan needs him to do in order to win ball games. And that's all I need you to do.
Son, keep us afloat. I just, hey,

Speaker 15 you got this light project.

Speaker 15 Them lights that they have on that stay for 24 hours.

Speaker 15 I need you to keep us afloat for 24 days. It's been longer because this is his fifth game starting, Ojo.
But

Speaker 15 I thought he played really well. He got

Speaker 15 a couple of drops in there.

Speaker 15 Had a deep ball. And number five, I don't know what his name is.
Like, bro. You got to have that.
Drop.

Speaker 15 You got to have that, Ocho.

Speaker 17 That was a nice fucking turn.

Speaker 15 That's that's what you got to have it, Ocho, because, look, we're playing with our backup quarterback. We got to help him out.
You know, Ocho. Now you got to step in and place.

Speaker 15 We got to have everything. Hey, we got to make those tough catches.

Speaker 15 Excuse me, those tough catches. And

Speaker 15 that's what they needed to do so uh

Speaker 15 oh oh i we got to get to this game

Speaker 15 everybody know what happened

Speaker 17 you're pretty excited what game you talking about

Speaker 15 don't worry about it i you're gonna find out in just a second the what oh yo why you tweeting me man you ain't never tweeted me before but all of a sudden today

Speaker 15 All of a sudden today, you want to tweet.

Speaker 15 I ain't heard from you.

Speaker 17 Most of the time, most of the time, you tweeting during the game. You tweeting during the game, you know, about certain plays that our team is doing.
And it just dawned on me.

Speaker 17 Somebody tweeted me and said, boy, go check on Aunt. Let's do a wellness check to make sure he's okay because he hadn't tweeted about the Broncos all day.
That's when I tweeted you.

Speaker 17 That's when I tweeted you. I just wanted to make sure you was good.

Speaker 15 I was okay.

Speaker 17 You was my.

Speaker 15 The Broncos scored 33 in the fourth quarter. How about this for ironic?

Speaker 15 Excuse me. How about this for Ironic.

Speaker 17 Wait, before you say that, you're not a conspiracy theorist, are you?

Speaker 15 No, you are, but go ahead. All right.

Speaker 15 Demarius Thomas went into the ring of honor today.

Speaker 15 Demarius Thomas passed. He was 33 years of age.
How many points did they score in the fourth quarter, OJ? 33.

Speaker 17 Listen, that ain't number Gaha.

Speaker 17 For those that are conspiracy theorists,

Speaker 17 I buy that one. I'll buy that one.
I'll buy that one.

Speaker 15 The Broncos scored 33 points in the fourth quarter to come back and beat the Giants 33-32, three lead changes in the final two minutes.

Speaker 15 Prior to the day, teams had lost 1,600 and two games, consecutive games, when trailing by at least 18 points with six minutes to play.

Speaker 15 The Broncos' 33 fourth quarter points were the most points of the fourth quarter by any team that had been shut out the first three quarters in NFL history.

Speaker 15 We did that. Y'all did.
We did that.

Speaker 15 Ocho, before we get into discuss this game, cameras call a very ticked off Brian Burns leaving the field. Let's try to listen to what he had to say.

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Speaker 15 I guess we're not going to be able to try to hear what he has.

Speaker 17 I know I'm not deaf, but I sure don't hear nothing.

Speaker 17 I can see his mouth moving, though.

Speaker 15 Yeah,

Speaker 15 we didn't get the audio. So, Bold Knicks was 27 of 50, 279, two touchdowns.

Speaker 15 The Broncos ran the ball 24 times for a buck 42.

Speaker 15 Cortland Sutton, big Bill Gates, six catches, 87 yards. Marvin Mills Jr., six catches, 85 yards.
Evan Ingram, everybody was big that final drive. It was huge.

Speaker 15 And the Broncos pull out Jackson Dart. I was like, bro, are you?

Speaker 15 Look, man, I just knew it was over, Ocho, because when he threw the pass towards the middle, the Broncos guys break it up and here come 84 from the Giants.

Speaker 15 Get the ball and turn up the sideline and go 41 yards. I say, you know what? It ain't for us today.
It ain't for us. It ain't for us.
But you know what? That's one thing about My High.

Speaker 15 They got ghosts in My High.

Speaker 15 They got ghosts in My High.

Speaker 15 And if you're a Bronco fan, if you've witnessed games, you've seen the Broncos dig themselves out, whether it was John Elway, whether it was Craig Morton, whether it was Peyton Manning.

Speaker 15 Hey, Tim Tebow, you've seen some unbelievable comebacks in that stadium. And today was unlike any other

Speaker 15 I've ever seen from the Broncos. Ocho,

Speaker 15 let's take it from the Giants' perspective. Because Jackson Dart was 15-33, 283, three touchdowns, one interception.
He was sacked four times.

Speaker 15 They ran the ball 32 times for a buck 19. Wandell Robinson was six for 95.

Speaker 15 Bellinger was three for 88.

Speaker 15 Scatterbolt ended up catching a

Speaker 15 13-yard touchdown on

Speaker 15 third and 11. From the Giants,

Speaker 15 where did the Giants go wrong? What did they do?

Speaker 17 I think, you know what? Every play counts. We always talk about that and how turnover sometimes is costly and they make you pay double.

Speaker 17 You know, for a team to be able to come back 33 in a fourth quarter,

Speaker 17 field goals that are missed. Field goal that missed that are missed, obviously, early in the game.

Speaker 17 Those PATs, they cost you,

Speaker 17 they cost you on the back end.

Speaker 17 Outside of that, Jackson thought, what you want to do, you want to protect the ball. You want to protect the ball.
You can't throw interceptions.

Speaker 17 But what you see from him, Unk, and just giving you a chance, when giving you a chance offensively, having a nice, healthy balance of the run and the pass, and then him

Speaker 17 being able to be a dual threat. and make plays with his legs, extending plays, looking downfield, and doing some of the things he did towards the end of the game.

Speaker 17 Outside of that, you know, defensively, no, 33, 33,

Speaker 17 33 points, 31 in one quarter. In one quarter, not over a span of an entire game, but that comes down to, listen, defensively,

Speaker 17 we got to be a little tight-knit.

Speaker 17 We got to be a little tight-knit. And obviously, in those situations as well, offensively, you want to hold the ball.
You want to choose some of that clock out.

Speaker 17 You want to choose some of that clock out so they're not able to come back, you know, from a deficit like that in just one goddamn quarter. So I think this is the learning experience for Jackson Dart

Speaker 17 with it being just his fourth start. But I think they're going to be all right, man, for one thing.
Even though they lost the game, you have to feel good at the Giants fan. You have to feel good.

Speaker 15 You got something special.

Speaker 15 Scatterball going to have to understand, Ojo, you can't run over everybody

Speaker 15 or

Speaker 15 you'll have no memory by the time you're 25.

Speaker 15 I understand that you look,

Speaker 15 everybody, to play in the NFL, everybody have a certain level of toughness. Now,

Speaker 15 I ain't telling you what somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know.

Speaker 15 You don't have to prove how tough you are.

Speaker 17 It's okay.

Speaker 15 He ain't going to be able to remember his name at 25. He keeps going to try to headhunt people.

Speaker 15 But look, they found their quarterback. They've identified their quarterback, and he was phenomenal.

Speaker 15 He was really good today. He made the one mistake.

Speaker 15 And the one thing that you can't have happen, even if, Ocho, even if you punt the ball away, you make them drive, you let them get the ball back, and they only have to go 20 yards for a touchdown.

Speaker 15 So now you minimize the amount of time that they that you've used off the clock. If you punt that ball away, Ocho, and they got to drive 80 yards, so be it.

Speaker 15 Unless you give up, you know, you say nothing cheap, nothing deep. As long as you don't give up a bomb, it's going to take them a minute, minute 30, maybe even two minutes.
That's what you need.

Speaker 15 Time is your friend, not a scorer. Time.
Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

Speaker 15 And so that's the thing. I thought the Broncos, look,

Speaker 15 I was like, Sean Payton, what are you doing? Where is this? You're at home.

Speaker 15 You're at home. Guys did drop some passes, but I, look,

Speaker 15 J.K. Dobbins needs more than 14 carries.
He had 14 carries for 81 yards. But when you're behind by the margin that they're behind, Ocho, it kind of takes you out of running the football.

Speaker 15 So now I've got to throw. It's hard to run yourself back into a game.
You have to throw yourself back into a game.

Speaker 15 But I thought Sean Payton did a well enough job of still incorporating a few runs here or there. The Broncos almost knew this.
Bro, why are y'all fighting all out?

Speaker 15 Let them score.

Speaker 15 They missed the PAT.

Speaker 15 Let them score. Let them score.
Now you get the ball back with a chance that, because I was a foregone conclusion that I thought the guy was going to make the PAT. So now

Speaker 15 you get in field goal range. Now you make a field goal.
Now you go into overtime.

Speaker 15 I was so glad that they reviewed it and said it was a touchdown and then gave the Broncos an extra six seconds because originally it was scored. It was 31 seconds.
They put an extra six seconds.

Speaker 15 Remember when they killed a clock, it was two seconds.

Speaker 15 Every second matters when you're behind.

Speaker 15 But I thought they did a great job. Look at, I mean, it looked like he was throwing the ball.
It was like a, I don't know what they did because Marvin Mills Jr. is supposed to run a scene to clear it.

Speaker 15 Cortland Sutton is coming in with a dagger. For some reason, they all in the same spot.
Mims pulling them.

Speaker 17 They all in the same spot, yeah.

Speaker 15 And it looked like Sutton was like, and he pulls his hand back.

Speaker 15 Hits Mims. Okay, they get up there, they kill it.
Now, from the inside, they love to run this play. They put Cortland Sutton in the slot, and they run him on a fade up the rail.

Speaker 15 He's a great jump ball guy. He's a big shit.

Speaker 17 They switched it.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Yes, yes.
Because guess what? The guy in the slot, he don't want you to run a shallow cross, so he's going to be slightly inside. So it's going to be an easy release.
And every time.

Speaker 15 It's going to be an easy release. So you got the advantage on him.
He ups over the top of him, catches it, gets out of bounds,

Speaker 15 come down, spike it, and then will luck.

Speaker 17 You know what? Obviously, Giants fans,

Speaker 17 the owner, John Maher, right?

Speaker 17 Yeah, John Maher, Brian Dayball.

Speaker 15 John Maher, Steve Tish, the Tish and the Maher family.

Speaker 17 Brother Tish.

Speaker 15 Well, they sold a 10% minority stake. I don't know who they sold it to.

Speaker 17 I'm not sure who they sold it to, too. But if you're having trials for kickers tomorrow, if you're having trials for kickers tomorrow, you know who to call.

Speaker 17 Because I'm probably the best kicker in NFL history because I've never missed.

Speaker 17 And if you want somebody that's consistent, that you can count on, where you can win games on their leg, and they have one job to do. You have one job.
You do one thing for a two-hour practice.

Speaker 17 You kick the ball. That's it.
Yep. So I'm not too far away.
I could be in New York tomorrow.

Speaker 15 They

Speaker 15 those two missed PATs definitely helped the Broncos.

Speaker 15 And you look,

Speaker 15 I don't care what anybody says. It's deflating.

Speaker 15 Everybody's high. You high five on the sideline, Ocho.
You're like, yeah, we just got a touchdown. And then all of a sudden, the field goes, then all the kicker, the kicker shakes.

Speaker 15 It is a letdown. I don't care what anybody says.
Like, oh, yeah, we good. We are.
We are. No, bro.
No. We worked too hard to get that six point for you to come out there and jack off that one point.

Speaker 17 And it's so funny.

Speaker 17 I was so confident. I'm watching the game.
I'm like, well, God damn, the Broncos getting whooped. And then somebody tweeted me, well, shoot, I ain't heard from Unk.

Speaker 17 Hey, I'll tell you you might want to go check on Unk, man.

Speaker 15 You know what?

Speaker 17 Whoop.

Speaker 17 I see Jackson Dart go down there like a goddamn magician and he leap. He score, you know, great effort.
I'm like, oh, let me tweet Uncle Make sure I'm good there.

Speaker 15 I look back up.

Speaker 17 I go to the bathroom and come back. I'm like, what the hell happened?

Speaker 15 I did the same thing. I let the dogs out, Ocho, after the Broncos scored.
And then I come back in like a minute later, the Broncos got the ball. I said, how the hell we get the ball?

Speaker 15 I don't know how we got it, but I was glad we had it. And the next thing you know, I mean, think about it.
I think I read a stat that says

Speaker 15 Bo Nix is the first player in NFL history to score two, throw two passing touchdowns and have two rushing touchdowns in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 17 And

Speaker 17 I mean, defensively, I mean,

Speaker 15 this hurts, Ocho, if you're a Giants fan or you're a Giants player, this hurts. You got to.
This hurts. I'm telling you,

Speaker 15 I don't know if I've ever had a defeat like this

Speaker 15 where we had such a big lead. I mean, a T.
Lau team to score 33 points in the fourth quarter. I don't know if I've ever had a loss like this, but this one hurts.

Speaker 15 I mean, I've lost the game, you know, walk-off game. We lost a couple of times to walk offs to

Speaker 15 lost to Kansas City one year. I think it's 97.
Guy hit a 54, 57-yard field goal to walk it off. But, man, because you played well enough,

Speaker 15 you didn't turn the ball. Think about it.
You had one turnover. You had one pick.

Speaker 17 Interception.

Speaker 15 But see,

Speaker 15 when did he throw the pick in the fourth quarter? Remember, all turnovers are created equal.

Speaker 15 You turn this over, you just have this pick in the first quarter.

Speaker 15 Now, now team just scored. Now you give them an opportunity to score again.
They're right back in the ball game. Now that stadium is rocking.
I can just imagine.

Speaker 15 Now, I know some people had left because I see it, but hey, I saw a lot of and I saw the cameras moving. I said, Yeah, Bronco, Bronco.

Speaker 15 They

Speaker 15 rock in that stadium right now. And man,

Speaker 15 boy,

Speaker 15 I can say football.

Speaker 17 Hey, you can say it. Hey, listen, you can say it.

Speaker 17 Listen, you worthy. You worthy of it.
You can say football. You can say pig skin.
You can say Broncos Country. Let's ride.
I mean, whatever you want to say, you can say it. I'm with you.

Speaker 17 I got to put my foot in my mouth.

Speaker 17 I got to put my foot in my mouth.

Speaker 17 Hey, you can put your robe on, too.

Speaker 17 You can put your robe on.

Speaker 17 Not the football, but the poster.

Speaker 3 No, we don't want the football.

Speaker 15 We want to see what's in the locker. Oh, Joe, just bear away.
I bear it.

Speaker 17 Take your time.

Speaker 17 Listen, I'm with you when you're right.

Speaker 17 I spoke too soon. I put my foot in my mouth.
Listen, I'm not too wrong too many times.

Speaker 17 I was wrong tonight, though.

Speaker 15 You should have worked.

Speaker 17 But one thing about it, listen, I wasn't on the field. I wasn't playing defense.

Speaker 15 I don't know what you and you were.

Speaker 17 I wasn't playing defense for the Giants.

Speaker 15 So when you become a Giants fan, when you become a Giants fan,

Speaker 15 yeah, I mean, stop telling me who be. Yeah, you, I'm talking about the game.

Speaker 17 I'm not, listen, I'm not a Giants fan. I'm a fan of Jackson Dart and his excitement that he brings to the game.

Speaker 15 Oh, he played for the Giants. So that means you root for him.
You root for him, you root for them.

Speaker 17 No, no, no, no, no. I like Scatterball.
I like Scatterball and Jackson Dart.

Speaker 15 Oh, yeah, okay. You root for him, you root for them.

Speaker 17 No, I'm rooting for the individual, not the team itself.

Speaker 17 I don't have no ill will towards the Giants, but I like with Jackson Dart and Scatterboy.

Speaker 15 I hate eggs, but I love chicken. How are you going to love the byproduct or something? How you going to look? You don't like the animal, but you like the byproduct.

Speaker 17 I mean, it happens sometimes. It happens sometimes.

Speaker 17 Listen, I ain't never said nothing bad about the Broncos.

Speaker 17 I never did.

Speaker 17 That's a different helmet.

Speaker 15 Oh, oh.

Speaker 17 What's that?

Speaker 15 I don't even know why y'all go at this guy.

Speaker 17 Why he got it? Hey, hey, hey, hey, he's nice, too, though. He's nice.

Speaker 17 He's nice.

Speaker 17 You got socks, too.

Speaker 15 I don't even know why they throw that socks.

Speaker 17 What are you doing with the damn socks?

Speaker 15 Hey, I'm like, hey, you lucky I didn't come out here padded up.

Speaker 15 Hey, y'all lucky I didn't come out here padded up.

Speaker 17 Matter of fact, you know what? Matter of fact, I'm trying to think when my team play again. We play.

Speaker 15 Y'all play Sunday. Okay.

Speaker 17 Hey, after we beat the Jets, I'm coming in my full uniform.

Speaker 15 You should? I'm coming in my full uniform. Really? Oh, yo, the Jets.
What?

Speaker 17 Whoa, whoa, this is an NFL team.

Speaker 15 I can't tell you. I can't tell you.

Speaker 17 I'm not sure.

Speaker 17 I have nothing. I have nothing nothing to do with how they're doing.

Speaker 15 Did you see them play today? Oh, that was bad, huh?

Speaker 15 Yes, that was bad, boy. Ocho, we had a conversation, and we're going to get to it in a minute,

Speaker 15 about Justin Fields. I said, Ocho, I don't know how much longer they can let me go.

Speaker 17 I didn't know it would be this soon, though.

Speaker 15 If he gonna keep playing like he played, we saw him last week against the Broncos, Ocho, minus 10.

Speaker 17 Hold on, that's not fair. That's against the Broncos defense, one of the best defenses in the league.

Speaker 15 Now he played Carolina, and it wasn't much better.

Speaker 17 listen listen stay with me real quick now this ain't the same carolina of old now

Speaker 15 this ain't the same

Speaker 15 they have won no games

Speaker 15 they've won no games

Speaker 17 i'm with you i'm with you right there's not much i can say but the broncos

Speaker 15 i don't know how

Speaker 15 and i ain't asking no questions why

Speaker 15 but we came back Scored 33 in the fourth. Have y'all ever seen anything like that? Yeah, on Madden.

Speaker 17 On the video game.

Speaker 15 I mean, we scored 33 in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 17 I see

Speaker 15 that's the most points they've ever scored in the fourth quarter when you didn't score any points in the first three quarters. That's crazy, ain't it?

Speaker 17 That's crazy. I'm not sure.

Speaker 17 What did the Giants do defensively different the first three quarters that they didn't do in the fourth?

Speaker 15 Because the Broncos hurting themselves. Because they started playing instead of behind the sticks, they started playing in front of the sticks.
It's hard.

Speaker 15 It's hard to keep converting third and 10, third and 11. It's hard to get that.
It's hard to, you know, all of a sudden you're second and 15. You first and 20.
Man,

Speaker 15 you're not going to make a living making those, getting that down in distance.

Speaker 15 But the Broncos kept plugging away.

Speaker 15 And the spirits of DT Man would not let them lose today. So congratulations, Broncos, Bronco Country.
You know, we proud.

Speaker 17 Are you happy?

Speaker 15 We ain't bad and we ain't cocky, but we ride on

Speaker 15 We ain't bad and we ain't cocky, but we ride on your team like a car with socket. I like that.
I like that.

Speaker 15 Yeah,

Speaker 15 that's a nice little rhyme right there, okay?

Speaker 15 Yeah,

Speaker 15 I like that. I like that.
Yo, T.

Speaker 15 Bronco,

Speaker 15 stand up. Bronco,

Speaker 17 that's what I'm saying. Bronco, stand up.
I mean, listen,

Speaker 17 I put my foot in my mouth. I apologize to you.
I apologize to all the Bronco fans out there. I still love you.

Speaker 17 I never never say anything bad about you no ill will not nothing malicious towards y'all it was just a uh a little fun banter between me and that's all that's all no yeah take no offense

Speaker 15 i was

Speaker 15 hey you know the broncos jackson dart got dinged a little bit i was like yeah put russ in there i had that bird man hand rub i said yeah hold on hold on russet russ is a child of god now Russ is a child of God.

Speaker 17 Now, you asked for one of God's people to come on that field, then the outcome might not have been what you thought.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Hey, well, Russ must be a stepson and Jackson Dart is real son because Jackson Dart got the starting job now.
So what is he? I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 17 I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 15 What game are we going to next?

Speaker 15 Okay. The Browns beat the Dolphins.
Oh, man. 31 to 6.
Mike McDaniel, bitch Tua, late for Quinn Ewers. He was 12 of 23, 100 yards, zero touchdowns, three interceptions, 24.
He had a 24 passer rating.

Speaker 15 Tua has the most two interception games in the NFL since 2022.

Speaker 15 Ocho, this is why.

Speaker 15 This is why I tell you, quarterbacks, keep your mouth shut. Now, we're going to have a conversation about your guy in Tennessee.
Now, you remember your guy in Tennessee, we...

Speaker 15 That's why you keep your mouth shut.

Speaker 17 Yes, sir.

Speaker 15 Now, back to Tua, Ocho.

Speaker 17 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 15 I'm going to let you. I'm going to hear what you said.
That's your team. The Miami Guppies are your team.

Speaker 17 Listen,

Speaker 17 when you stand tall with your head high and you hold other people accountable and tell us about things that are going on in your house, a house where we don't have the key to.

Speaker 17 So it's no way for us to know what's going.

Speaker 17 And that COO chest, as that captain, you have to always be front and center and being the one to be playing at your best.

Speaker 17 You got to be playing at your very best at all times. So what you're saying in front of the media and you play, it ain't matching up.

Speaker 17 It ain't matching up. You can't be talking here, but playing down here at the bottom.
There has to be some some type of even keel where everything makes sense. Okay, you know what?

Speaker 17 He can get in front of the media and say some of the things that are going on behind closed doors because once he touched that goddamn field, he's that boy. He's doing his thing.

Speaker 17 But when you play like that, and on the opposite end, trying to do,

Speaker 17 it wasn't pretty. I was upset.
I was upset watching. I was upset watching the game.

Speaker 17 We don't even have a chance.

Speaker 17 We don't even have a chance to compete. Let alone, you're already going against one of the better defenses in the league.
So offensively, you got to do that much better.

Speaker 17 You have to raise your level to play. Tyreek is gone.
He's not walking back through that though.

Speaker 19 What a matchup we got, y'all. This is that classic HBCU vibe.
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Speaker 19 Game like this, yeah, it calls for an ice-cold Coca-Cola.

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Speaker 19 Yeah, that taste always hits the right note, just like the band at halftime.

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Speaker 17 You know, welcome back to that, though.

Speaker 15 And it wasn't like Cleveland did a whole lot. It was just that you were so pathetic.
Your

Speaker 15 Miami offense was so anemic, they didn't really have to do anything because you gave them short fields. You gave up a pick six.
This is what you do.

Speaker 15 Bill Davis used to always tell us my college coach, say, son, you praise in public. You chastise behind closed doors

Speaker 15 see i i forget hey listen i got i got it with you today i'm prepared

Speaker 15 yeah he said you just you chased you chastise behind closed doors you praise in public ocho we played a game we played alabama am

Speaker 15 and uh

Speaker 15 coach called uh

Speaker 15 he called a quarterback draw on the first the first two plays he called a handoff

Speaker 15 quarterback checked out of it and then on fourth down he called a draw again.

Speaker 15 We lined up, we lose the game. We're all around the team.
Coach says, I've been coaching 20 years, and I've never said this before.

Speaker 15 You cost me the game. Damn.

Speaker 15 Just like that.

Speaker 15 He said he got that. He got there in front of the media.
You know, we just got to play better. Look, the plays that we didn't make tonight at the quarterback position, I trust him.
I believe in him.

Speaker 15 That is not what he said behind closed doors.

Speaker 15 That's not what he said.

Speaker 15 But in public, he knew he had to put on a brave face. He had to put on a brave front.

Speaker 15 I'm not saying to what you said, you should have said behind closed doors to your teammates and keep the media out of it.

Speaker 15 See, you can't spin it because, see, when you say when the media does this, you absolve yourself of accountability. You see, instead of saying, you look, look, I misspoke.

Speaker 15 Everything that I said, I could have said to an individual or individuals that I felt that were late or not being the best representative of the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 15 That should have never heard that the media ears should have never heard what I had to say. But when he spent it and say the media try to spin it, now he's absolving himself of accountability.

Speaker 15 I thought you were saying that you were sorry because you was taking the onus of accountability.

Speaker 15 But that's not what he did. And now think about it, Ocho.
He said that after throwing three picks. He follows that up again with another three picks.

Speaker 17 Yeah, yeah. And let's remember what I said.

Speaker 15 So, how do I look at you? How do I look at you? If I'm a player, Ocho,

Speaker 15 you got the C on your jersey. You're supposed to be one of our best players.
And a large part of why we're ineffective out visibly is because of your players.

Speaker 17 I told you,

Speaker 17 I'm not sure, Chad, if any of you have been in a structured environment and played a sport. And you look up to one individual, the individual who wears the C on the chest.

Speaker 17 Not only does he wear the C on the chest, but he's a leader.

Speaker 17 He not only is a leader, but

Speaker 17 he's your quarterback. He's your quarterback.
So you say some of the things that are going in-house about players that are in a building.

Speaker 17 How you think they look at you next? How do you think they look at you?

Speaker 15 And you know, you know how they're going to look at you.

Speaker 17 They won't say it out loud publicly, but you know,

Speaker 17 different. Yes.
They always going to look at you sideways now from now on, even with a public apology.

Speaker 17 And the top it off, to top it off, it makes it even worse when you come back the following week and you play like that.

Speaker 15 And you stunk it up again. You pull your pants down two weeks in a row in front of the public and took a dump on the field.

Speaker 15 Now, first of all, Ocho, I'm looking at you sideways because even before you opened your mouth, I knew you weren't playing well.

Speaker 15 And I kept that to myself. Now, I could have put you on blast or when somebody say tour was buns or cheeks, I could have liked it, but I didn't do none of that.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 15 But what did you do? You come put us on blast, and

Speaker 15 you got to the meeting on time. You did everything right, and you look like Sturfro out there.
So what was your excuse?

Speaker 17 Hey, sometimes you can do all the talking in the world.

Speaker 17 You can do all the talk in the world. All the talking in the world don't matter.
But what does matter, I know you want to do everything right before you go, before,

Speaker 17 before you touch this field on Sundays. But all that talking and all that mean don't mean nothing.

Speaker 17 If you go out there and you stink it up Sunday at one o'clock, you still got to play, you still got to execute

Speaker 17 the exes and O's. And the person that has the ball the most, the person that is able to handle the ball the most,

Speaker 17 is responsible most of the time whether you win or whether you lose.

Speaker 15 Yes. Tour now has two or more interception games.

Speaker 15 He has the most

Speaker 15 two-plus interception games in the NFL since 2022. He's done that 12 times.

Speaker 15 It's hard to overcome bad quarterback play. Because you know why, Ocho? You know why, chat? Because he has the ball all the damn time.

Speaker 15 Unless you direct snap it to a running back or a wide receiver, which is the Wildcat, he touches the ball. If he's playing bad,

Speaker 15 he gets hit, the ball comes out. He throws it, it gets picked.
He runs.

Speaker 15 I always question Ocho. The The man knows he has a history of concussions.
He breaks weight last year. What does he do, Mocho? He lowers his head on somebody.

Speaker 15 I say, you got to be kidding me.

Speaker 15 He must have thought he was got a bad thing.

Speaker 17 I'm confused. Where do we go from here?

Speaker 17 As Mr. Greer, Stephen Ross, Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 17 As much as I love Tua, you know, then I have to be critical. I have to be critical.

Speaker 17 It puts my back against the wall. And chat, y'all know who I am.

Speaker 17 I'm one who really rarely, very, very rarely talks about people, but this is, he's now in a position where he's doing the Dolphins more harm than good.

Speaker 17 Regardless of how much you're paying, I know we think he's making 45, maybe 50 million a year, but what we have right now.

Speaker 15 You got to eat that. He ain't the answer.

Speaker 17 He's not the answer as much as I love it. And I love him to death.
You know, you're putting this in harm's way. And you want your quarterback to be the one person you don't have to worry about.

Speaker 17 Okay, we don't have to worry about the quarterback. We can build around here and address all the other areas where we need to improve.
But if the area is the quarterback position where the where the

Speaker 17 problem is, well, goddamn, you really can't go, you can't go no goddamn where because that's where everything starts.

Speaker 15 It starts with him, Mocho. You remember when they fired Brian Flores and Tua got up there and said, you know, it was tough coming to work every day because he was so critical.

Speaker 15 It was always someone else.

Speaker 17 Hey,

Speaker 15 I don't mind a coach. I don't listen.
My thing is, I know I wasn't perfect. My position coach job was to tell me where I'm weak and get me better in those areas.
That was his job.

Speaker 15 Cool job says, I need a little bit more out of you. Mike Job, hey, 84, I need it today.

Speaker 15 Okay, fine. I didn't take what they said.
Oh, they just... No, no, no, because I know.

Speaker 15 If my play,

Speaker 15 I'm watching the film. Hell, I see me.
I'm like, damn, I sure wish I can go in there there and erase that one.

Speaker 15 But damn, they're going to see that on tape. And the thing is, Ojo, when you loaf on a play or you miss a block, guess who else see it?

Speaker 17 Your teammates. Everybody.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 Your teammates see that because they're watching that same tape. So when they see Tua go through his progressions and he throw that ball and dub,

Speaker 15 or they see him take a hit and he coughed the ball up.

Speaker 15 They see that

Speaker 15 They got a big issue on their hands.

Speaker 15 Steven Stephen Ross is probably going to come out.

Speaker 17 You know what's funny too? Did you think about all the issues that people had with Brian Flores? It's funny how everything he said now has come to light. Everything Flores said is actually true.

Speaker 17 And obviously, I didn't know because I'm not in the room.

Speaker 17 You hear the rumblings, you hear the issues, but now everything has come to the forefront because they're not winning anymore. Now that they're not winning, everything else is magnified.
Time's

Speaker 15 you know how that is, OJo.

Speaker 15 Everything starts to get creep out when you start to lose. People start to tell, people start to pillow talk.

Speaker 15 All of a sudden, reporters, because reporters do have a relationship with certain players on certain teams, and you what

Speaker 15 just like, how did they know

Speaker 15 that meeting took place in Philly?

Speaker 17 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 17 It was supposed to be between three people. How the hell everybody else know?

Speaker 15 Exactly. Me and you go, if me and you go somewhere, hold on.

Speaker 15 Oh, Joe, how they know, how they know we went to the Maldives? We took people to the Maldives. How they know that?

Speaker 17 I probably posted some on Twitter.

Speaker 15 Yeah, see, that's why I ain't going with you.

Speaker 15 Because if I take somebody, I'm going to say, meet me at the airport. Where are we going? Don't worry about it.

Speaker 15 We'll buy whatever we need when we get there.

Speaker 15 Because I don't want nobody to know. I'm like, yeah, I like that.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 15 I got to use that.

Speaker 17 I got to use that. Hey, hey,

Speaker 17 that's a nice little gameplay right there.

Speaker 15 I know we're talking about about football, right?

Speaker 17 But telling her, listen, don't ask me no questions. Meet me at the airport at this time, don't even pack no suitcase.
We're gonna buy what you need when you get there. Well, that's a nice play, huh?

Speaker 17 I'm gonna try that. I'm gonna try that.

Speaker 17 Hold on, let me write that down before I continue.

Speaker 15 Hey, hey, back in 20

Speaker 15 back in 26, Locho, O'Shea will be well again. I ain't, you know, I ain't well right.
I ain't well right now,

Speaker 15 but in 26, it's back on. It's back on.

Speaker 15 The thing is, Ocho.

Speaker 17 Hell no.

Speaker 15 Quinn Ewers. I don't know if he's the answer.
Absolutely not.

Speaker 17 The answer is that listening.

Speaker 15 You've got to try something or you're going to lose the locker room.

Speaker 15 I don't know how you keep Tua in the locker room after this season. I don't know how.

Speaker 15 I don't know how.

Speaker 15 I don't know what you owe him,

Speaker 15 but I've seen teams eat a lot of money to move on for a quarterback when they don't feel it's beneficial but you got to be careful too huh you got to be careful with moving on zach wilson q and errors yours

Speaker 15 yeah are they the answer because you know because you know i i i think i think they're going to probably go into the draft ocho at this point

Speaker 15 but i don't know i don't know who the top quarterback is oh we talk about i mean we watch college football every week ocho i ain't in love with nothing My point, exactly.

Speaker 17 And I don't think what we're going to get in this year's draft is a franchise altering quarterback. I don't think we have that.
I don't think we have a Jackson Dart in this draft.

Speaker 17 I don't think we have

Speaker 17 a Jaden Daniels. But what we saw was C.J.
Stroud when he came to Houston and they changed the dynamic and the trajectory of those teams exponentially in just a few months.

Speaker 17 I don't think that's out there.

Speaker 17 I don't think that's out there. Maybe someone can come in and develop and become that, but I just don't see it right now

Speaker 15 i don't either um but

Speaker 15 they're gonna have to do something ojo i don't i think they're starting to see that he's not the answer and if you the one thing you can't be you can't be the you cannot be the answer and the problem

Speaker 17 oh joe you you you can't be you can't be both not the answer and the problem so it also what you have to say is when you take away the weapons that he once had when they were winning when they when they when they were you know when he's having the great seasons you know in the air and then throwing the ball and age hand and most were having were having playing really well on the ground once you take all those weapons around you that means the quarterback play has to be that much better you have to raise your level of play when the weapons around you aren't what they used to be

Speaker 15 but he does he doesn't he's he's not that type of quarterback if you go back and look at him even in college look at what he was throwing oh my god

Speaker 15 okay look at the nfl look at what he's had so he's not a guy. He can't take average players and elevate them.
It takes extraordinary players to elevate him. Yeah.

Speaker 15 So when you got Jerry Judy, when you got Henry Ruggs, when you got

Speaker 15 Devontae Smith, when you got Jalen Waddell, think about it. That's four first-round picks.

Speaker 15 And I ain't talking about no low first-round picks.

Speaker 17 That's them boys.

Speaker 15 Look at the running backs that you had. Look at the offensive line that you got.
Now he goes to Miami and he has those weapons around him. So he's not a quarterback that can elevate.

Speaker 15 And you see when he just has marginal talent, you see how he looks.

Speaker 17 That's unfortunate too. That's unfortunate for Dolphins fans.
Listen, we've suffered. Yes, I said we've suffered since Dan Marino's been gone.

Speaker 17 Since Dan Marino has been gone, we've suffered at that position and not being able to find a quarterback that we don't have to worry about, that we can lock in and build around and say, you know what, you are a centerpiece for the next decade or so.

Speaker 17 And we don't have to worry about nothing because we know come hell out high water, you're going to make all the right decisions with the ball.

Speaker 17 All we have to do is just build around you, and you're going to take it from there. If we happen to lose some key players on offense, we know you can keep the keep the float, keep the boat afloat,

Speaker 17 and we can still win games based on your play and decision-making with the ball.

Speaker 17 But, but right now,

Speaker 17 it's bad, man. It's bad.

Speaker 17 This is coming from a Miami native, a Dolphin fan.

Speaker 17 It's bad.

Speaker 15 The Dallas Cowboys double up the Washington Commanders, 44-22. The Cowboys' offense is rolling.
Dak, 21 of 30, 264, three touchdowns. Javante Williams, 19 carries, a buck 16, one touchdown.

Speaker 15 CeeDee Lamb, first game back. Five catches, a buck 10.
Touchdown. Long, 74.
George Pickens, 4, 82. Long, 44.

Speaker 15 Jake Ferguson, 7 catches, 29 yards, 2 tubs.

Speaker 15 The Cowboys' offense looked really good. Their defense looked a lot better because they played from behind and now they get to pin their ears back.

Speaker 17 That's the,

Speaker 15 they have

Speaker 15 four sacks today. Kenneth Murray Jr.
had one. James had one.

Speaker 15 Jadavian Clowney had one. I can't even miss this brother back.

Speaker 15 Ocho, watching the Cowboys. As a matter of fact, guess where they'll on the road next week in Deal.

Speaker 17 Hey,

Speaker 17 I ain't not even going to talk no trash.

Speaker 17 I'm not going to talk no trash, but I know one thing: Pat Sertain II, he's going to have his hands full, depending on who he follows, whether it be George Pickens or whether it be CD Lamb. But I know

Speaker 17 he's going to do a hell of a job. See, I'm not even going to talk no trash.
I ain't going to talk no trash. Hey,

Speaker 15 hey, Dak, stay away from two. That's all I'm saying.
Hey.

Speaker 15 CD spends a lot of time with SWAT. He don't really go.
So he'll probably deal with Pick, probably stand with Pick.

Speaker 15 But there's, look, when the Cowboys, when you can run the ball like the Cowboys, it's hard. Javante Williams getting four, five, six, seven yards a carry.

Speaker 15 So you got, I mean, you got the single up.

Speaker 17 You ain't got no choice.

Speaker 15 Riley Moss, you're going to have to buck. Hey, bro.

Speaker 15 Bro, I mean, at some point in time, Ocho. I'm not going to lie.
At some point in time, you got to say, you know what? Every time somebody needs a big throw, they throw it at me.

Speaker 15 I'm talking about at some point in time, you say, enough.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 15 I'm like Reggie and Professor Clump. With Reggie, when they were killed with a

Speaker 15 with a, what you call him,

Speaker 3 what's his name?

Speaker 3 What was Professor Clump?

Speaker 15 With Clump.

Speaker 15 Yeah, Professor Clump.

Speaker 15 He was on Reggie

Speaker 15 at the Comedy Club. And Reggie said, enough.

Speaker 17 All them jokes, yeah?

Speaker 15 Yes. Riley, at some point in time, you've got to say enough.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I mean, you got to make them pay.

Speaker 17 You got to make them pay. They want to come at me.
They got to make them play.

Speaker 17 I remember Deron Bland, since we talked about the Cowboys, and they chose not to throw Trayvon Diggs away, and they kept throwing over there the Bland, and he kept picking everything off like a booger.

Speaker 17 Got another one. Yeah, you got to get another one today.
I mean,

Speaker 17 hey, the Cowboys look good. They look good.

Speaker 15 they look red they look so good they have they have looked good offensively their problem has been defensively when they when other teams when they when they're playing ahead that's when the defense look good

Speaker 15 yeah because you you you neutralize the threat of the run because

Speaker 15 their problem is ocho is that

Speaker 15 when the defense is bad and the offense dack you know they he turns it over he gets a pick uh or they they fumble the ball If you tell me that they're going to be able to play with a lead or they're going to be able to be nipped tuck,

Speaker 15 you're going to have your hands full because they can run it with Javante and they got two guys that can go get it. And then that tight end,

Speaker 17 Jake Ferguson.

Speaker 15 He ain't got no great speed, but he got great hands.

Speaker 17 Jake Ferguson is nice. And the funny thing about it, too, when you see the Cowboys playing, chat, chat, y'all stay with me.

Speaker 17 When you see the Cowboys playing the way they're playing today, they can compete with anybody. They can compete with anybody.
I'm talking about about the Packers. I'm talking about the Chiefs.

Speaker 17 I'm talking about the Eagles. All those teams that are high-scoring that can score 25-30 points a game.
The goddamn Cowboys can do that every single week. Every week.
Hey, one thing

Speaker 17 I want you to tell Cowboys fans something. I tweeted some earlier today is I was talking about George Pickens, right? Obviously, George Pickens there.
He's on a one-year deal.

Speaker 17 And obviously, look, they have to do something with Dak at the end of the season. Dak, I mean,

Speaker 17 his price point is going to be too high. They're going to have to restructure.

Speaker 17 CeeDee Lamb has already got his money, and I'm telling people, it would be good for George Piggins to be able to go somewhere and get his money, which is well-deserving based on the seasons he's having, being that all the other receivers have gotten their money.

Speaker 17 And everybody's about, oh, Ocho, shut up.

Speaker 17 Pickings ain't going nowhere. He's going to stay here.
Well, who's going to take a discount? Because

Speaker 15 here's the thing, Ocho.

Speaker 15 They got, look, they're going to have money under the cap for the simple fact, they're going to redo Dak's deal. Let's just say Dak's cap number is going to be 74 million.

Speaker 15 He ain't planning on that number next year.

Speaker 15 So they'll probably

Speaker 15 give Dak another, you know, say he has two years left on that deal.

Speaker 15 We'll add four years to it. We'll give him, you know what? We'll give him another 60 million.
We'll give him 150 million, 200 million guarantee, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 15 To get that cap number down, we get his cap number 30. Now we can focus our attention on George Pickens.

Speaker 17 Hold on. So if you're going to to focus your attention on George Pickens, right? And the cap is round 30,

Speaker 17 what you giving Pickens a year?

Speaker 15 I'll give him somewhere between 32 and 35.

Speaker 17 Okay, okay. We're talking business.

Speaker 17 I like where you're mine at. I like where you're mine.

Speaker 17 For me, for me, honestly, based on what he can do, based on what he can do, and what he showed you he can do. He showed it with the quarterback Carousel with the Steelers.

Speaker 17 He's showing what he can do in a consistent, competent offense with a good quarterback and deck. Hey, give me 35.
We can talk.

Speaker 15 35. Because here's the thing.

Speaker 15 He knows he has a quarterback that can get him the ball. He knows if

Speaker 15 they double CD, he's getting one-on-one coverage. Dak's going to look for him.
Dak's going to give him every opportunity.

Speaker 17 And he's making every last one.

Speaker 15 And he's making every last play. Now, the only problem,

Speaker 15 and the people said with Shannon,

Speaker 15 the Bengal

Speaker 15 were able to keep T. The difference between George Pickens and T.
Higgins, the Bengal drafted T.

Speaker 15 T had been there for three, four years. George Pickens is right now as a rental.
Now, you can buy rental cars. You can go to Hurts and

Speaker 15 they had the Mustangs that you can buy. You can buy a rental car from Avis.
You can buy it.

Speaker 17 But this is the problem I don't like, huh? You understand Jerry Jones. You understand how Jerry Jones conducts business.

Speaker 15 He loves offense.

Speaker 17 You understand how he's made all his stars wait and he drug out the process when it comes time time to pay players. That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 15 He has David Mugaletta. You know, David, David Muguela.
I keep milling.

Speaker 15 But hey, he said one negotiation doesn't represent another negotiation. George Pick is going to want somewhere between 32 and 35 million.
He don't give a damn who gives it to him.

Speaker 17 Say it again.

Speaker 15 Cowboy.

Speaker 17 He said he didn't give a damn what?

Speaker 17 Who gives it to him? I told y'all, y'all y'all don't listen to me.

Speaker 15 It's just like anything.

Speaker 15 You might like shopping to Halloween.

Speaker 15 But if they don't got it, I go to Trader Joe's. If they don't got it, I go to Smith's.
If they don't got it, I go. Hold on.

Speaker 17 Hold on. These are the people trying to tell me earlier, you know, earlier on Twitter, he ain't going nowhere.
He's going to take less money. Huh?

Speaker 17 No.

Speaker 17 Do y'all understand?

Speaker 15 This is his first time.

Speaker 15 Look, the thing is, is that, like I said, when you look at Dak's number, Dak's number is $74 million. He's not playing on a $74 million cap.

Speaker 15 They're going to get that down and probably next year's cap, probably be somewhere around $20 million, $30 million. But

Speaker 15 give him a big signing bonus. Probably $100 million to sign.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 But George Pick is going to want to eat.

Speaker 17 Got to.

Speaker 15 He's going to want to eat. Now, you got money because you didn't sign Micah.
You got money.

Speaker 15 And you've taken care of, you've taken care of your guards. You've taken care of Deron Bland.
You've taken care of people that you need to take care of.

Speaker 15 And pick as a guy. Look, Jerry loves offense.
He loves the way Dak is playing.

Speaker 15 And when you see offense, be like, okay, this is when you had Michael Irving and you had Alvin Harper.

Speaker 15 You double Michael, Alvin Harper is going to make you pay on the backside.

Speaker 15 You got a Jay Novicek

Speaker 15 and Jake Ferguson, short-handed, reliable.

Speaker 15 Not the best blocker, but you know what? We didn't brought you here for the block. We brought you here to

Speaker 15 catch.

Speaker 15 Keep us a first down.

Speaker 15 Keep the chains moving. And

Speaker 15 touchdowns.

Speaker 15 He had a touchdown in his catch in his four straight games. Javante had his second 100-yard rushing game, six rushing touchdowns on the season.

Speaker 15 He's healthy. I loved him coming out of North Carolina.
And

Speaker 15 he had a good early years with the Broncos, but he hurt his knee. And then he came back, and he he wasn't the same.

Speaker 15 You know, unless you're Adrian Peterson, you know, it normally takes you a year and a half

Speaker 15 for that knee to get right. Now they got the guy

Speaker 15 that's a year and a half removed from that surgery. And now, this is what, when the Broncos selected him in the second round, this is what they thought.

Speaker 17 Now the Cowboys guy.

Speaker 15 But the Cowboys look good. Now, we got to talk about Jane Dangs.
He was 12 or 22, 156, one touchdown. He ended up tweaking his hamstring.

Speaker 15 We'll see. He's going to get an MRI tomorrow.
We'll see the extent that.

Speaker 15 I don't know

Speaker 15 how far they can go.

Speaker 17 Without him?

Speaker 15 Without without him?

Speaker 17 Listen, Mariota

Speaker 17 showed he can play some good ball.

Speaker 17 He can string off some wins, but he's too up and down, huh?

Speaker 17 You don't know which H get. You don't know which H you're going to get.
But obviously, he coming in and starting in a game where you haven't had many reps with the ones and being thrown in the fire,

Speaker 17 you have to catch yourself in the rhythm. You got to get yourself going.
Obviously, you're not acclimated to the speed of the game. You're not acclimated to the tempo in general.
You know the play.

Speaker 17 You know what you're supposed to do, but your timing is going to be off a little bit. Your timing is going to be a little rusty.
I think obviously

Speaker 17 if he's not able to go this week, if Jaden Daniels is not able to go this week and he gets another week under his belt with the ones and

Speaker 17 getting that rhythm going with the ones and tempo going with the ones, I think he'll be fine and play much, much better next week.

Speaker 17 But it's hard.

Speaker 17 It's hard to come off the bench and make sure the team doesn't miss a beat.

Speaker 17 And you come and just do your thing, especially when you're playing from behind.

Speaker 15 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 They just pinning their ears back. Dak last four games, Ocho, he had 319 pass yards, three touchdowns.
237 yards, four touchdowns. 261 yards, three touchdowns.

Speaker 15 264 yards today, three touchdowns, zero interceptions. He's got to be

Speaker 15 who is leading the league in touchdown passes: Stafford? Because Stafford had less than 200, had five TDs today.

Speaker 15 I think Jackson, I thought Jack, I think Jacksonville, you know, emptied their tank against Kansas City because they looked like some stir-fried the last two games.

Speaker 15 But we're going to talk about it. Hey, because Duval, y'all talk about Ocho and I.
We don't talk about the Jags enough. So we're going to jump on y'all ass today.
We're going to talk about you.

Speaker 15 We got something for you. Be careful what you wish for.

Speaker 15 I think Mahomes has 14

Speaker 15 with two picks.

Speaker 15 Dak has 16.

Speaker 15 How many Stafford has?

Speaker 15 Yeah, you're right. They hadn't really set the stat.

Speaker 15 Matt Owen tweeted, I don't care what it costs, Dallas needs to find a way to sign George Pickens to a long-term deal. This isn't Batman Robin.
The Cowboys have Batman and Superman at wireless.

Speaker 15 I like that.

Speaker 17 I like it.

Speaker 15 Jane Daniel, as I mentioned, exited the game with a hamstring injury. His mom, Regina, Jane's mom, tweeted after, I wish you would stop manifesting RG3 on my son.

Speaker 15 Words are powerful, and that's still, and that's all that's talked about. I agree.

Speaker 17 One thing about the power of the tongue, it never fails. The power of the tongue.

Speaker 17 I'm always cautious in everything I say. Eagles.

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