BEST OF NFL Week 8 Part 1: Broncos HUMBLE the Cowboys + Unc & Ocho have SEEN ENOUGH of Dillon Gabriel!

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Speaker 11 But let's get to the game of the day. The Broncos beat the Dallas Cowboys by the score of 44 to 24.
The Cowboys defense reverted back to their old form, giving up his longest run of the year.

Speaker 11 A 40-yard touchdown run by

Speaker 11 number one overall draft pick, BJ Harvey.

Speaker 11 First round draft pick, not number one, first round draft pick. And Bo Knicks, Bo Tubbs.
Dak Prescott threw two interceptions. The number one offense was held in check.

Speaker 11 The Cowboys have lost eight straight to the Denver Broncos, tying the longest streak to a single opponent in franchise history. I tried to tell Ocho, I said, Ocho, man, y'all ain't beat us since 95.

Speaker 11 We're gonna beat, they gonna beat y'all this tour. Whoa, who was us? Who was us? I'm not, listen, I'm not a part of the Cowboys.

Speaker 11 I just, I just felt with them being the number one offense, George Picking doing what he's doing, CeeDee Lamb's back. You know, Williams running the way he's running the ball.

Speaker 11 I felt they had a good chance to win the game today. Now, obviously, I was wrong.
That's the good thing about sports. Sometimes you're wrong.
Sometimes you're right. In In this case,

Speaker 11 which is very seldom for me, is I was wrong. And listen, I apologize.
You know, for those Broncos fans that in the chat, congratulations. Y'all won today.

Speaker 11 You said

Speaker 11 they...

Speaker 11 But what's the like? How many times have they played a defense like the Broncos?

Speaker 11 Where they got them guys on the edge, especially Sertan.

Speaker 11 Think about it.

Speaker 11 We beat them.

Speaker 11 Sertan went out. Trey Greenlaw didn't even play.
Yeah, he heard his show. Yeah, he sure did.

Speaker 11 Can you imagine? Because you know when he was in there, they was getting Nathan.

Speaker 11 They wasn't getting anything.

Speaker 11 Y'all played a good game. Bo Nick's Bo Nicks balled out.

Speaker 11 Hey, Corliss Sutton had some really, really key catches, some really key catches. And it got to a point where the game just got out of reach.
It got out of reach. That did.

Speaker 11 It was out of reach when y'all walked into the stadium. That was out of reach.
Listen. How many times did y'all stop us from? Hold on.
Let me go look at this thing. I want to see the

Speaker 11 how many times did y'all actually stop us? Matter of fact, I'm going to. Broncos, okay,

Speaker 11 they threw an interception. So y'all stopping them on the first run.

Speaker 11 And then it went touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown, touchdown, end of half, field goal, touchdown, touchdown, punt, end of game.

Speaker 11 Damn.

Speaker 11 If the Broncos turned it over, the first possession, and then with touchdown, touch, I'll be,

Speaker 11 damn.

Speaker 11 that hey

Speaker 11 hold on let me went through him like sherman went through atlanta scorched thirst

Speaker 11 hey y'all play good though

Speaker 11 i'm not even gonna lie man it's hard it's hard for me to argue we are good you thought we played good we got a good team yeah yeah y'all got a good y'all y'all got a good defense y'all got a good defense and the offense it goes as bone nicks goes if bone

Speaker 11 well offensively y'all gonna be all right and bone nicks had him a day to day bonicks had him a day to day and the defense obviously showed up pat went out.

Speaker 11 I think he hold probably looked like maybe a pinched nerve or something.

Speaker 11 Maybe a pinched nerve. Other than that, I think he's going to be all right.
But, but them, them two, them boys on the edge, boy. But oh, yeah, Cooper and Bonito, Allen.

Speaker 11 Hey, man, listen.

Speaker 11 Hey, but them jokes, nice, boy. Oh, yeah.
We go. Hey, we get after you now.

Speaker 11 Bo Nicks was 19 to 29, 247, four touchdowns, one interception. J.K.
Dobbins had 15 rushes, 111 yards rj had uh i said bj rj harvey had seven for 46 he had two touchdowns

Speaker 11 and then franklin six for 89 two touchdowns courtland sutton four for 67 pat bryant two for 40 one touchdown rj harvey had a one had uh one catch for five yards of a touchdown

Speaker 11 boy they got a Let me see what Dak numbers were because, you know, what we do is that

Speaker 11 if you got hopes of winning the MVP or winning some type of war, you come to my high, you're gonna leave without it

Speaker 11 19 to 31 188 two interceptions remember the last three that last three games he had thrown three touch three touchdowns and no interceptions

Speaker 11 got we got tired of hearing that

Speaker 11 um

Speaker 11 y'all can talk y'all win the game obviously we understand how good denver defense is did you understand that because why would you pick them

Speaker 11 clearly you didn't understand that hold on what why did i pick the cowboys to win yes because the offense has been on fire the past three weeks straight. They ain't played nobody.

Speaker 11 Hold on. So you're saying the Broncos are somebody?

Speaker 11 Is the Broncos a team

Speaker 11 that teams are supposed to fear? Are you saying that their defense is like the 2000 Ravens? No, absolutely.

Speaker 11 No, they went to Philly, was down 18 to 3, and win the ball game. Remember last week? Hold on.
33 points in the fourth quarter. And what's the key words that I just said?

Speaker 11 As Bo Knicks goes, that is how the the Broncos will go. Now,

Speaker 11 that's how normally the team goes. Huh? That's normally how the teams go.
Okay. The quarterback.
Okay. What about your quiet? How your team do? We ain't talking about your team just yet.

Speaker 11 Dak Press got through two interceptions. The number one offense.
Hold on. Let me see how many yards are number one offense that you've been hyphen about.
Oh, they've been playing good.

Speaker 11 Let me see what the numbers are. I'm trying to, that's what I was looking for.
I was sitting there trying to find the goddamn stats. You weren't trying to find no stands.

Speaker 11 You ain't looking hard enough. Cut it up, yeah.

Speaker 11 Nah. Cowboys 188.

Speaker 11 They ain't even have 300 yards of offense, averaging four something. How many points to get? And they got a little cheap touchdown at the end.
Yeah, but this is what you have to understand.

Speaker 11 This is what you have to understand. Listen, even a squirrel gets a nut every blue moon, every so often.
They're the number one offense for a reading. Sometimes, listen, this was a trap game.

Speaker 11 This is a trap game. Oh, us?

Speaker 11 You know what? We're going to, you know what?

Speaker 11 We're going to let the Broncos have this one to build their confidence up a little bit, make them feel like they're really doing something and

Speaker 11 the next week what's going to happen it's going to be right back to the old oh man well this is what happened and this is why we didn't win we don't do that we don't do that we don't play what we do what we don't do is play down the competition

Speaker 11 the standard is the standard with the denver broncos three time super bowl champs that's who and what we are oh okay so the standard is the standard right standard is the standard Okay, okay.

Speaker 11 Just a whole matter of fact, let me write that down. The standard is a standard.

Speaker 11 I want to make sure, I want to make sure when we come back next sunday i want to make sure the standard is still a standard after that game

Speaker 11 what my what my pen it will be

Speaker 11 my man my kids and took my pen and paper man god don't don't worry about it

Speaker 11 and i can't believe you you asked me oh cho now chat when was the last time y'all know oh cho to go on sunday without tweeting

Speaker 11 i i ain't tweeted today

Speaker 11 oh come my internet wasn't working

Speaker 11 i bet it wasn't yeah man

Speaker 11 ultra not tweeting is like corn flake without the milk. You know what I'm saying? It's up, babe.
Just go together. Sunday, ultra tweet.

Speaker 11 But this is this is this is the point. You have to understand.
I said it, I tweeted it out. Obviously, I was using my neighbor's Wi-Fi.
I'm using my neighbor's Wi-Fi right now.

Speaker 11 That's why I was able to come on Nightcap. I tweeted you back and said I wasn't going to be able to come on the show tonight because my Wi-Fi was down.

Speaker 11 The fiber optimism that they use, all the wired over here, somebody cut grass, they cut a line. So when they cut a line, like, boom, it messes.
How do you cut grass?

Speaker 11 How you hide the line on top of the ground? Like, no, they went underneath. They went underneath.
I don't know what they were. Who cut grass underneath?

Speaker 11 Who got a bunker that got grow grass under the ground? Hey, listen, I don't know what it is. That sounds awful suspicious.
Doesn't it sound suspicious to you, chat?

Speaker 11 Yeah, it sounded suspicious to me when I heard it. It sounded suspicious to me.
So I'm using my neighbor's Wi-Fi right now.

Speaker 11 So I might go in and out, but just though, I did everything I can to make sure I make sure the knife. That's why

Speaker 11 hey, hey, how my camera look? Because my camera ain't even, my camera like kind of kind of is, it's, it's good.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it looks good. It's you.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 11 I mean, you put your, you, hey, I was three and oh this weekend.

Speaker 11 You were three and over who

Speaker 11 Ravens won. Broncos won.

Speaker 11 But who was the third? You lost.

Speaker 11 Savannah State. Oh, I spored though.
Savannah State won home coming.

Speaker 11 Well, hold on. Who was the third? I mean, you, you.

Speaker 11 Broncos one.

Speaker 11 Ravens won. That's two.
Savannah State won. That's three.

Speaker 11 Bengals lost. 4-0.

Speaker 11 Oh, he, come on, man. Hold on.
Wait a minute. Yeah, you, you, he hit high-high.
The Dolphins won today. What you talking about? Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
The Dolphins won today.

Speaker 11 I'm saying all the teams that I played for, that Shannon Sharp played for, won.

Speaker 11 The Guppies, you never played for the Guppies. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
It doesn't matter who I played for. It's where I'm from.
That's my home team. That's That's all I knew.

Speaker 11 That's what I grew up knowing until I got drafted. So, therefore, I'm a dolphin first.

Speaker 11 Before I know anything about, before I knew anything about the Cincinnati Bengals, I was a dolphin guppies since 1968. And we won today.
Did you see what we did to Atlanta? Let's talk. I saw that.

Speaker 11 Okay.

Speaker 11 Okay. Let's put some respect up.
Matter of fact, hold on.

Speaker 11 Chad, he hurt about that, chat. He hurt by that.

Speaker 11 Let's put some respect on my quarterback. Oh, Joe, this is the only one I see right here.
Hey, hey, hey, put some respect on my quarterback, too.

Speaker 11 Hey, we were, hey, listen, we were doing all, we were doing all that, you know, that tongue-lashing and saying that, you know, it was up and he needed to go and they need to fire Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 11 And this, even I was a culprit, even even me, someone who's always been nice and

Speaker 11 trying to find excuses for people, even I was critical. But after today, two is the future.
Two is the future of the Miami Dawson franchise.

Speaker 11 Now, they can clean house everywhere else, but as long as Uno is there, we're gonna be all right based on what I saw today. Now, let's talk.

Speaker 11 Let's talk. Bubblegum, bubblegum, pop, pop, bubblegum, bubblegum, pop, pop.
My team, my team on top.

Speaker 11 Your team, your team, a flop. Yay.

Speaker 11 And you just made that up just now?

Speaker 11 That was the chill we had. I chilled and did that when we was in high school.
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Yeah.

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Speaker 11 oh joe steel turned the ball over in the second half once uh fumble by gangwell rogers was sacked twice the pressure was relentless all night they flushed him out of the pocket and the jordan love had 360 passing yards as they take down as they take down the uh

Speaker 11 the steelers 35 25 as you can see 360 passing yards three touchdowns no interceptions 94 rush yards it was a complete team effort every you know uh Brandon McManus missed two field goals that long went at 57

Speaker 11 maybe just a tad out of his range but there's no excuse for the other one he just he shanked that thing really really bad yeah

Speaker 11 ojo what did you like about what you saw from the green bay packers tonight listen the packers look good i obviously i thought that the first half i thought the steelers were going to run away with the game i honestly thought the steals were going to run away with the game the way it was a defensive game in the first half the packers i don't know what the hell coach told them at halftime

Speaker 11 came out on goddamn fire not

Speaker 11 defense but hell on goddamn offense too um they scored on the first five possessions in the second half yeah i'm not sure what happened to the steelers defense but but you got people on that back end that you paid really good money, top quality money, simply to be able to stop the goddamn pass.

Speaker 11 They got Tucker Kraft out there looking like he got damn

Speaker 11 it was National Tight End Day to Ocho. Huh? It was National Tight End Day.
Oh,

Speaker 11 is that what it was? That's what it is. That's what today was.
Tucker Kraft showed out tonight on National Tight Ends Day. He had one hell of a goddamn day.
Jordan Love did what Jordan Love does.

Speaker 11 But again, once they came out of halftime and the Steelers couldn't do anything defensively to stop him,

Speaker 11 it was going to be a long night. Now, the first half, the first half is good.
That was some good football on both sides of the ball from both teams.

Speaker 11 And I mean, listen, the Packers came out at the half and Steelers couldn't do nothing with him on offense. They couldn't stop him at all.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Jordan Love, 29 to 37, 360, three touchdowns, no interceptions, no sacks, no turnovers.

Speaker 11 Josh Jacob had the only rush touchdown, as you mentioned. Oh, Joe, Tucker Carson, seven for 143, two touchdowns.
He was sensational. Christian Watson, his first game back, four for 85.

Speaker 11 Romeo Dobbs had three for 44.

Speaker 11 Malik Heath had three for 29. They played really well.
And I agree with you, Ocho. The Steelers got, you know, they got, you look at what they have defensively.
They make the trade for a J Ram.

Speaker 11 They have Joey Porter Jr., who's a second-round draft pick. Yes.

Speaker 11 lockdown guy. You look at Highsmith and you look at

Speaker 11 Watt and you look at cam hayward carrier slaying yeah bro but you can't you can't let them go up and down the field like that

Speaker 11 you can't not not not in your building

Speaker 11 you can't not and not with that kind of talent we're not so we not just talk about know anybody we talk about some of the some of the some of the greats that have played this game for a long time that that bring you a veteran presence where things that you want to do on on defense it's much easier because of the level of skill and talent that they do have but it just didn't look like it did, just didn't look like that tonight.

Speaker 11 It didn't look like that tonight, huh? What you said? It didn't look like that. Come on, man.
And it looked like that.

Speaker 11 I'm agreeing with you. It didn't look like that tonight.
That all that talent that they have defensively.

Speaker 11 You don't, you don't have, you don't have to do it on the jacket. What are you doing?

Speaker 11 I saw her. Hey, we get that jacket.
That's from Zara.

Speaker 11 Hey, Chad, am I doing too much? Chad, I want y'all to be honest with me. Is this too much?

Speaker 11 Chad, is this too much? Chad, because I know the one thing about the chat. Let me see what the chat says.
Because the chat going to be honest with me. The chat always like, you doing too much.

Speaker 11 You know, slow down. You a, a, stalling out.
Don't do ocho like that. Chad, I know y'all gonna be honest with me.
So y'all can be honest. Is this too much? Is the blazer, the

Speaker 11 phone fit

Speaker 11 the t-shirt is that too much chat you feeling you feeling good tonight huh oh i oh i tried to tell you about this i told you this was gonna happen good tonight huh i told you we're gonna do something i told you i said we're gonna do something bad to the cowboys i say and the jets gonna get y'all i tried to tell you that but you ain't what you ain't want to hear me i'll just go ahead and sit this down right here

Speaker 11 you listen you you didn't know the jets was gonna do that today you didn't i did no but nobody no nobody expected the jets to win that game i did nobody did no you didn't no you didn't because

Speaker 11 I'm sure. Man, put your finger down, man.

Speaker 11 He won't put his finger down, man. Come on, bro.

Speaker 11 It's all good. It's all good.

Speaker 11 Oh, Joe, I was surprised with how well Green Bay moved the ball in the second half. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Now they have a lot of drives that they stalled themselves out in the first half. And then

Speaker 11 they missed two field goals. Like I said, maybe the 57 yards or 57 yarder was a tad outside of McManus's range.
Excuse me, just say.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 that second half was a complete domination

Speaker 11 by

Speaker 11 the Packers. They look good.
That front, they got after Michael Parson. They was getting chipped.

Speaker 11 And I told you, I said the beneficiary of Michael Parsons coming over there is going to be Rashawn Gary. Rashawn Gary.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 Because you're going to have, look, and after he had that three-sack performance last week, he he had four, but they took it back because of a hill drop tackle.

Speaker 11 I knew that they were going to pay extra close attention

Speaker 11 to Micah. And so now Rashawn Gary is getting a lot of one-on-ones.
So I already knew that the beneficiary of this trade was going to be Rashawn Gary.

Speaker 11 And so now you got two guys screaming up there outside

Speaker 11 that can rush with power, that can rush with speed. They do a great job of getting off the ball.
And they were relentless last tonight. Now, I don't think the secondary is that great.

Speaker 11 So they're going to have to get off the ball like that. They're going to have to apply pressure, Ocho, because they don't have shutdown guys in the secondary.

Speaker 11 They have okay, they have decent guys. But as long as they can continue to generate the pressure that they're generating, they're going to be just fine.

Speaker 11 They're going to be just fine playing it the way they played. But I thought offensively,

Speaker 11 Jordan Love, man,

Speaker 11 if you didn't know Aaron Rodgers actually played there, I mean, look at the throws that he's making off his back foot. Look at how he's throwing across his body.

Speaker 11 His mannerisms remind you, and I'm not saying he's going to beat Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 11 I'm not going to say he's going to win four MVP, but I'm saying if you look at a lot of his mannerisms, you look at a lot of arm slots, the way he throws the ball off his wrong foot, off his back foot.

Speaker 11 Quick, quick, the quick release. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 The side arm. Yep.
He's really good. You can tell, you can tell he's obviously studied Aaron.
Studied and watched, yes. Yeah, he studied and watched him.

Speaker 11 And some of the stuff he's doing, he wasn't doing it in college. It has to be

Speaker 11 nowhere.

Speaker 11 So obviously, this is this is why I say at times, sometimes it's good for quarterbacks when you're coming as a rookie, depending on who the starter is, to sit back, relax, take it all in, and learn from whoever it is that's sitting in front of you.

Speaker 11 And then, when your time comes, then you look exactly how Jordan Love looks. Some of the best quarterbacks didn't start.

Speaker 11 I mean, you look at uh, obviously, Brady didn't start, Patrick Mahomes didn't start.

Speaker 11 Uh, uh, uh, uh, Josh Allen, I don't think Josh Allen started uh his first game he didn't we could look that up i don't think he did i think but once he got in yeah

Speaker 11 um he didn't look back but i thought this the packers gonna look that's the packers that's a tough division well i think it's a two-team division um

Speaker 11 the quarterback play the quarterback play in minnesota and in chicago is not as nearly is not as consistent as it needs to be to be able to keep up with those other two teams detroit and green bay i think green bay and detroit obviously are the

Speaker 11 class of that division. I just don't think Carson Wentz and Caleb Williams give you consistent play week in and week out, down in and down out to really challenge these teams.
Now, look,

Speaker 11 it's intra division. So anything can happen.
We know anything can happen within a division. But me, I just don't think the quarterback play is nearly consistent enough.

Speaker 11 But I was very impressed with the Packers going on the road, knowing how much this game meant to Aaron Rodgers. And normally when you play a team, Ocho, that you played there, your team,

Speaker 11 your team

Speaker 11 comes back and, you know, they pick you up.

Speaker 11 They want to make sure you win that game. Oh, I didn't even know I had this t-shirt on up under here, Ocho.

Speaker 11 Is that too much?

Speaker 11 Hold on, hold on. Let me get my jacket off.
Oh, hey, you hiding now, huh? Yeah, it's hot down here. Yeah.
Hold on. Look at, but look, look, hey.

Speaker 11 Y'all see the inside? Y'all like the inside?

Speaker 11 What'd that say? What did it mean? Broncos?

Speaker 11 All the Bronco logos all the logos this was the first logo they had like in the 60s yeah uh this was i think this was like 68 this was the first one this was the second one the third one this is the fourth one you know

Speaker 11 and you know a little something that the broncos this is what they give the ring of fame honorees

Speaker 11 all through all four of the logos orange jacket y'all get one of these ocho huh yeah i got i i got one

Speaker 11 yeah and listen listen you got you got the bronco logos mine got you you know all the stripes, all the tiger stripes.

Speaker 11 I ain't see that jacket, I ain't see you with no jacket on when you went in the ring of fame two years ago. Yeah, we had that, all we got, all got the same jackets.
I ain't see it.

Speaker 11 I just said I didn't see it, Ocho.

Speaker 11 I got anything else over there. I'm gonna wear it.
I'm gonna wear it. Take it.
I think I got one in there. Take it out.
See

Speaker 11 now.

Speaker 11 You ain't got to show us no more stuff. We know.
We know y'all. I got a few things.

Speaker 11 We know. We know y'all won today.
We know.

Speaker 11 not if i got another one that's all hold on real just close it up yeah

Speaker 11 damn yeah

Speaker 11 oh joe see see my bowling bag what's that bowling bag you don't even bowl

Speaker 11 now i don't bowl let me

Speaker 11 hold on hey told you i got to keep my shoes in here i bet i never catch you in the alley that's what i'm saying

Speaker 11 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, hey, listen, I bowled 280 or better.
Who's shoes in me else?

Speaker 11 Damn, my bowling bag, so one would assume

Speaker 11 them shoes brand new still. You don't bowl, man.
Don't do that. Don't do that, Ocho.
Don't do that. Don't do that.
Listen, one thing about it: you're not a bowler.

Speaker 11 You might be a lot of things. How you gonna bowl and your hips don't work?

Speaker 11 They work, you're fine.

Speaker 11 Hey, I just said they work fine.

Speaker 11 Hey, you know, when you bowl, you got to get low.

Speaker 11 They showed it.

Speaker 11 They know. They know.
What's that? That's an eight-pound ball?

Speaker 11 I make it look like that, don't it?

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Speaker 11 Ocho, watch it. Come on, Ocho.
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Speaker 11 The Chiefs use a dominant second half to pull away from the commanders by the score of 28 to 7.

Speaker 11 Patrick Mahomes tosses three touchdown passes in the second half, as you can see the numbers right there. And they win comfortably 28 to 7.

Speaker 11 You know, watching this game, Mojo, I just thought the commanders squandered too many opportunities in the first half.

Speaker 11 They had an opportunity and the ball hits Debo in the face and Mike Dana intercepts it and

Speaker 11 they come up short on a fourth down where he tosses it out of bounds. But I thought they had some really good opportunities in the first half to really apply some pressure.

Speaker 11 They were doing a great job of getting the ball locked quick.

Speaker 11 I thought Marcus Mariota did a great job, you know, and Cliff Kingsbury did a great job of putting them in situations where they could get the ball locked quick.

Speaker 11 A lot of misdirection, use Mariota's legs a little bit.

Speaker 11 when you'd have when you're on the road and you don't take advantage of opportunities when they're presented for you when a team gets their rhythm especially at their home they're probably going to pull away for you, from you.

Speaker 11 And, you know, you saw a very uncharacteristic, some turnovers. If you notice, that route was a terrible route by Hollywood Brown.
Oh, Joe, how are you in the slot? You already got leverage on him.

Speaker 11 How do you take two steps and start looking back for the ball? You know,

Speaker 11 even Mahal went to the sideline and took, bro.

Speaker 11 And you notice he disappeared after that, didn't he? Oh, yeah. Yes.

Speaker 11 Absolutely. Listen, it all comes down to being sharp, being sharp and precise regardless of what route you run.
And you always have to stay friendly to your quarterback and understand

Speaker 11 how to not only get open, but continue to create separation to be able to catch any and everything.

Speaker 11 For Hollywood, as long as he's been playing a game of football, you know better than that. Yeah, you can't run the route like that.
You got to put pressure on the DP.

Speaker 11 You got to make him think you're going deep so he's going to want to get on top of you.

Speaker 11 If you start back, Ocho, if you take three steps and you're looking for the ball, you don't run no go route like that. Who runs a go route like that?

Speaker 11 You're not fooling nobody, you're not gonna fool nobody like that.

Speaker 11 So,

Speaker 11 and uh, you know, I'm sure that was the situation, and then he hits Trav in the head with the ball that pops up in there and uh B Wags ended up picking that off.

Speaker 11 But I thought once he got it going, uh, guys made play for him. He did a great job of using his legs sometimes to run his way out of harm's way and sometimes to buy time.

Speaker 11 You see him hit Rasheed Rice on a couple of plays like that. He found uh for a touchdown,

Speaker 11 uh, the running back for a touchdown. You see him for Trav.
He hit Trav a couple of times after using his legs to buy time.

Speaker 11 But I thought overall, once they got it going in the second half, they had drives of what, 90 plus yards, 80 yards, 70 yards. And it really broke the ball game open.

Speaker 11 Because for the first half, OJo, I thought the Commanders defense did a great job, Blooney. Listen, they did a phenomenal job on them.

Speaker 11 Listen, whether they play zone or whether they played man, they added pressure and they played a really good game.

Speaker 11 The one thing I don't like about the first half for the commanders and the chiefs are one of the few teams that

Speaker 11 when they turn the ball over, commanders

Speaker 11 have to capitalize. You got to make them pay.

Speaker 11 You got to make them pay because at whatever point the Chiefs catch that momentum and find that rhythm, you want to stretch that lead as far as possible to make the game a little easier, make it a little more difficult for them to almost into a point to a sense, you got to make them damn near one-dimensional where they don't have a chance to throw to get themselves back in the game.

Speaker 11 But the game was too close. Once they caught fire and then Mahomes started processing that information a little faster.
Oh, y'all playing zone? Well, hell, I'm going to be surgical. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I'm going to find every hole. Because every time there's the defense of play called, there's always a hole.
And Mahomes knew exactly where to go with the ball every goddamn time.

Speaker 11 Those plays where the defense actually called the right play, okay, you got me this time, but I'm going to beat you with my legs. Then he go beat you with the guy with his goddamn legs.
So

Speaker 11 I think, and you're right about that, especially when you're on the road. When you're on the road, you try to keep the crowd out of the game as long as you possibly can.

Speaker 11 As long as they're not cheering, as long as they're sitting on the hands at the edge of their seat and they're nervous, you're winning.

Speaker 11 But when you get those opportunities, because the momentum is going to swing. If you look at the first half, the commanders had the momentum.

Speaker 11 Now, what happened is that in the second half, the Chiefs got the momentum. And when they got the momentum,

Speaker 11 it went 14-7, 21-7, 28-7, and the blink of an eye, and the game's over. Hey, it was a wrap.
And they were where they scored, what, three, three straight possessions? Three straight possessions.

Speaker 11 And then they ran the ball, you know, ran the clock down,

Speaker 11 laying the balls, or they could have late. I'm surprised they didn't, you know.
But I just thought they did a great job. They were really, really balanced, Dojo.

Speaker 11 You look at it. Targets, Travis Kelsey had eight targets.
Rasheed Rice had nine targets. Xavier Word, they had seven targets.
And you had six catches, nine catches, five catches.

Speaker 11 So you saw what they were doing. He bought time and found Juju on a couple of routes.
He

Speaker 11 bought time with his legs and found a Kareem Hunt in the end zone with his legs. He's done a great job as he's gotten older.
He's doing more and more with his legs. He will run,

Speaker 11 but he's really looking to buy time and hope somebody comes open. And

Speaker 11 that's what makes him so dangerous. You don't want to bless him because he will come out of the, he will jump out the window on you and take off running, but he will.
But he's also looking.

Speaker 11 He's constantly trying to process information. Can I throw this ball over the head? Is there a gap somewhere I can fit this ball in to get me 10, 15, 20 yards down the field and pick up a first down?

Speaker 11 But I thought they ran the ball well.

Speaker 11 You look at Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Pacheco and what they did, a run of the football, 12 carries, 58 yards, 9 carries, 40 yards. Mahomes had four carries for 30 yards.
30 rush attempts, 148 yards.

Speaker 11 So basically almost five yards of carry.

Speaker 11 That's good enough to win.

Speaker 11 Very balanced. Mahomes had 299 yards passing, three touchdowns, two interceptions.

Speaker 11 He was sacked three times.

Speaker 11 I thought Martin did a great job of putting pressure on him. They did a great job of forcing him out of the pockets, but when you get there, you got to get him on the ground.

Speaker 11 I don't know what that last ex, I don't know what he was.

Speaker 11 He saw Mahomes, gave himself up, and then you still going to throw him down right there in front of the referee, and you don't think he's going to throw a flag? That's frustration.

Speaker 11 That's all frustration. That's all frustration at that point.
And y'all, obviously, okay, I can't hit him all game. We haven't been able to get to him all game.

Speaker 11 He's been getting out the pocket, extending plays. You know what? I finally got a hold of him.
I'm going to give him a little extra.

Speaker 11 I'm going to give him that extra just to let him know I'm here. And it didn't matter at that point.
No.

Speaker 11 And when you look at Locho, I think they didn't run the ball nearly as much as they needed to.

Speaker 11 Because now all of a sudden the pressure started to get into Mariota. He had eight rushes, 28 yards.
Koski Merritt had nine for 25 yards. That's not enough.

Speaker 11 And it looks like McLaurin might have nicked that groin or that hamstring again because he ended up coming out. I thought he made some great plays.

Speaker 11 Hell, I thought Debo was a catch right there at the pylon. And then I was looking at it like, man, that's a catch by McLaurin in the end zone.

Speaker 11 That was a touchdown. Now, I don't necessarily know if I was an official Ocho, I would have overruled because I couldn't see that right leg, the inside leg.
Did it hit down out of bounds?

Speaker 11 He did get the elbow down. And you look at the left leg.
The left leg didn't come down. But where was that right leg?

Speaker 11 There was never a clear view of where I could see what his right, what his right leg was doing. So I probably wouldn't have overruled it.

Speaker 11 But even in real time, I thought that was those were catches with Debo and McLaurin.

Speaker 11 Hey, but you know, hey, that was a situation. I'm sure they said, oh, that's the Chiefs getting home cooking.
The Chiefs getting home cooking.

Speaker 11 Wait, listen, I'm not saying the refs are cheating,

Speaker 11 but they was cooking.

Speaker 11 i think the thing is ocho if you go back and look up it a lot of them were out of position like that catch on the sideline there were really no officials right there in the in the in in in the vicinity so you got to be in better position now he was they were looking at mclaurin when he was in the end zone and they're trying to see but you want to get there as close as you possibly can because you got a really hard job is his feet and does he hold on to the ball if i look at where he catches the ball i can't pay attention to his feet so they really have a hard job and that's really the job of of two people.

Speaker 11 Yeah. That's why you always see him check.
What'd you get? Was he out of bounds back there? No, he didn't step out. Okay, what he touched the pylon is good.

Speaker 11 So that is a two-man job, but the guys got to be in position. The guys, the women and the men, they need to be in better position to make sure they're on top of those calls so they can get it right.

Speaker 11 But it's a tough situation and it's only going to get worse. Since the implement of gambling and what we're starting to find out now, people are going, now it's really going to ratchet up.

Speaker 11 It's really going to ramp ramp up and say see i told you i knew it all along hey man you can't fool me how team play like this one week and then the next week they act like they ain't never seen foot or ball yeah and this is the funny thing about it now people can say what they want to say you can say the ref cheated you can say that they didn't but you understand when you ever have a quarterback when you have a quarterback like patrick mahomes um it gives you a favorable chance to win any match yes favorable chance to win to win any game Obviously, there were some turnovers early in this game.

Speaker 11 The commanders did what they needed to do to capitalize on those turnovers, and you saw what happened. And it's funny how the conversation about the Kansas City have

Speaker 11 conversation about the Kansas City Chiefs has changed as the weeks have gone on. First, they washed.
They're not the same as they used to be.

Speaker 11 The receivers are playing bad. In the first two weeks, they started 0-2, which they haven't done before, to now looking like the Kansas City Chiefs of old.
And it was only a matter of time.

Speaker 11 It was only a matter of time of players getting back healthy.

Speaker 11 Rashid Rice coming off

Speaker 11 of suspension. Hollywood Brown being in.

Speaker 11 Travis kelsey actually getting back to form and with him with hey now now they're hitting on all cylinders and we still probably even have we still haven't even seen probably the best kansas city chiefs team we can see just yet i'm just trying to figure out what happened to taquan thorn how does the guy be that involved and i understand rashi rice coming back right i get that ojo but when a guy puts up that kind of numbers you've got to find a way to get him on the field um

Speaker 11 they got so many options man look it's hard for you to convince me that Hollywood Brown is better than Tyquan Thornton based on what we've seen this year.

Speaker 11 Yeah, oh, yeah, I'm not saying what he was when he was in Baltimore or what the year that he had in Arizona. I'm talking about right now, based on what you saw.

Speaker 11 When Hollywood Brown was in there and Tyquan Thornton was in there, when Rasheed Rice wasn't,

Speaker 11 Tyquan Thornton was their best receiver. Yeah, he was making some plays.
He was making some

Speaker 11 catches, you know,

Speaker 11 especially deep balls. Yes, when it was needed and it mattered most.
And I knew they were going to play like this. I understood that.

Speaker 11 That's why when we had him on the show, and I said, listen, once that door opens for you, make sure you put your foot in there, cross it, and close the door behind you.

Speaker 11 Because this is the type of game that they play when it comes to business.

Speaker 11 When it comes to business, those that have already been paid, those who are making top dollar, they're going to see the field first.

Speaker 11 I get that with Rashid Rice. I get that with Rashid Rice because he is their best receiver, OJo.
We saw the maturation when he came in as a rookie and he got better and better and better and better.

Speaker 11 And as the year, he was clear-cut, he was the number one receiver. Yes, yes, sir.
Obviously, he

Speaker 11 had some issues. I think he got nicked and he got that situation, got himself off field, got that behind him, got that issue resolved.

Speaker 11 But I just, I'm looking like, damn, you mean to tell me this man can't get on the field and get... 10 plays.
He can't get one target.

Speaker 11 He can't get two targets now, Ocho, after doing what he's done in the absence of Rasheed Rice.

Speaker 11 Look, we're not trying to start no conflict, but I think everybody in Kansas City, and I think people that watch the game, follow the game, study the game.

Speaker 11 You're like, hold on, how does a man go from playing that well to not even getting in the game, barely getting in the game, not getting any targets?

Speaker 11 In a sense, I'm not even upset. In a sense, I'm not even upset because I understand the doors with the way he played when everyone else was out.
When Hollywood Brow wasn't there, when

Speaker 11 Hollywood was there,

Speaker 11 no, no, no, no, when he wasn't there,

Speaker 11 hollywood wasn't there yet he was hurt where was he at not this year

Speaker 11 what wasn't he hurt early on when taequon kept making making all those plays making those hollywood was in there

Speaker 11 it was hollywood uh uh xavier rice xavier worthy and and and and and taequon nah uh nah some somebody somebody was missing somebody was missing from the equation but rashie rice was missing okay either either either way Either way, Tyquan thought was arguably easily based on what we were seeing.

Speaker 11 Yes.

Speaker 11 That's all I'm seeing. But this is the only thing, this is the thing I like is you've already put it on film now.

Speaker 11 You already put it on film, what you can do when you're actually put in position to make those plays.

Speaker 11 So that door and the opportunity to play somewhere else where they will probably use him in his skill set that he does have with that kind of speed, it's going to pay off.

Speaker 11 It just might's not going to pay off where he is now because obviously they don't appreciate what he was able to do because you have too many other options. You got too many other options.

Speaker 11 And maybe there's a situation, Ocho, maybe he's Nick. Maybe there's something going on that you and I don't know about.

Speaker 11 Ain't nothing wrong with him. Ain't nothing, ain't nothing wrong with him.

Speaker 11 Bro, damn. You know, you know, the game them folks play.
You know the game they play.

Speaker 11 Hold on. Hey, I'm, you know, I'm sitting here.
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta grab this chair. I'm sitting here on my suitcase.
Hey, look what I'm sitting on. You heard me look.
Yeah,

Speaker 11 Lord, have mercy.

Speaker 11 It hurt my butt.

Speaker 11 Yeah, see.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Xavier. Think about it, Ocho.
Xavier Worthy was injured. And now Hollywood was there.
Okay, that's what I meant. I knew it was one of them.
I knew it was one of them. I just, I knew it was.

Speaker 11 So yeah, it was Xavier. That's what's right.

Speaker 11 But Taekwondo, he was in there. It may be some situation, Ocho, where

Speaker 11 T plays the same position as Worthy. Hollywood plays a different position.

Speaker 11 Because, you know, you got two speed guys. So maybe that's the situation.
But

Speaker 11 I was trying to figure out, like, well, damn, how he go from being so productive to damn near, he damn near inactive. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 That's crazy. Now, I've seen it so many times.
I've seen it so many times, which is why I don't want to say the wrong thing,

Speaker 11 because they are winning. But

Speaker 11 when you have a team like that, where

Speaker 11 they can plug and play different players in different positions, and because you have Patrick Mahomes, it's going to always work regardless of who you put out there.

Speaker 11 It's hard to argue the fact on. It's real hard to argue the fact.
And then Juju is so versatile. Juju blocked.
Juju make the tough catches over the middle. He understands.
He doesn't miss hot reads.

Speaker 11 And that situation where they run the fake, I'm trying to figure out, I'm like, Noah, why would you run a seven route? Bro, you just try to score a touchdown. Don't run that in the angle.

Speaker 11 Get that up the field.

Speaker 11 I'm like, guys, guys, do y'all,

Speaker 11 I don't, I don't get it. I ain't trying.
I'm trying. If I got the defense fool and the linebacker is trailing me from the inside, I'm not trying to get a 20-yard completion.

Speaker 11 I'm trying to get a 40-yard touchdown.

Speaker 11 And you see how Mahomes threw the ball. Mahomes threw him up the field because B.
Wags was trailing on the inside.

Speaker 11 He was like, he wanted to catch it and get tackled out of bounds. No, bro, take that up the field.

Speaker 11 I don't know.

Speaker 11 Maybe it was set up like that. Maybe it was, hey, to be a 20-yard completion and not a 40-yard touchdown.
But that is like, you know, the way we ran around, like, look,

Speaker 11 if somebody's over the top, you flagged it off. If somebody's in the trail, you keep it high.
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Pedrus beat the Browns 32-13. One week after finally eclipsing 17 points.
Cleveland offense reverted to its old form, mustering two touchdowns. Gabriel also couldn't take care of the ball.

Speaker 11 One thing coaches have consistently praised him for is taking care of the football. But guess what, Ocho? Two touchdowns.
Shadur Sanders went in active because of a back injury, but calls

Speaker 11 the calls for him to play will only grow louder if the Browns continue to, oh, the Browns bye-week is this week.

Speaker 11 Even though Kevin Stefanski said after the game that Gabriel will remain the team starter for now,

Speaker 11 hey them got a goddamn drake may uh boy he looking

Speaker 11 hey that hey listen drake may

Speaker 11 and josh mcdaniels

Speaker 11 now i'm not saying i'm not i'm just saying the start that they're off to right now goddamn patriots are six and two huh yes but them boys six and two and they dealing boy drake may is dealing they running

Speaker 11 They running the ball, they throwing the ball, and he's not just as opposed to Flacco going to Uno, you you know, all the time, 19 times. Man, Drake may get to everybody.
Man, listen,

Speaker 11 you get a ball, you get a ball, you get a ball. Bhute,

Speaker 11 Stefan Diggs, man, they were. Zach Collins, Oscar Oprah, Hunter Henry.
And everybody eating. Yes.
Everybody eats. And it's a good thing.

Speaker 11 It's a good thing. Obviously, you're playing the Browns.
The Browns have a very good defense, but there's only so much they can do. There's only so much holding a team,

Speaker 11 holding the team down that they can do where your offense is sputtering and the offense is sputtering too too much

Speaker 11 you know you you

Speaker 11 you dead the water then you got them defenses out on the goddamn field damn near all got in all night long all night long yeah it is and uh i'm looking

Speaker 11 patriots had the ball for over 36 minutes

Speaker 11 Man, so that means that means the Browns only had it for 23. Ain't a whole lot you can do in 23 minutes with the football at all.

Speaker 11 if you're going to have the ball 23 minutes, you got to be explosive.

Speaker 11 You got to be exploited.

Speaker 11 Efficient and explosive.

Speaker 11 Kansas City. Kansas City didn't have it because you had Tyreek taking a top off and took in one play, two plays, 40 seconds, they done scored a touchdown.

Speaker 11 So you can understand that they don't have that level of explosiveness. So when you have the ball 23 minutes, that means somebody else possessing it and they're going to put foots in you.

Speaker 11 Miles Garrett had a career high five sacks today, but became the first player in nfl history to do that and lose by more than three points with his five sacks garrett passed reggie white for the most sacks by a player 108.5 before turning 30 since sacks became an official stats in 1982 despite personal success miles garrett miles was caught being visibly upset with offensive woes on the sideline let's take a listen to what he had to say ocho after the game hey you were hot boy it doesn't get any easier each week you ask me.

Speaker 13 So,

Speaker 11 how do you feel about your performance?

Speaker 11 Does the loss diminish? How do you feel like your performance today in August?

Speaker 13 I would throw the whole performance away for a win.

Speaker 11 Ocho,

Speaker 11 I want you to explain it to me as if I was seven. So, you're really going to have to get down to it and explain it to me as if I was a kid.
I got you. Talk to me.

Speaker 11 I want you to tell me

Speaker 11 what Miles Garrett was thinking was going to to happen based on everything that has happened since he's been there

Speaker 11 what has he seen from this organization that convinced him they were going to get it right well uh uh you have to understand as a seven-year-old that you are i'm going to explain it to you in the best way possible miles garrett understood there is no more guaranteed money on my contract So what am I going to do?

Speaker 11 Because I want a huge lump sum and I want to raise. I'm going to throw a fit.

Speaker 11 I'm going to throw a fit in wanting to get out, to demand the trade, to force their hand, understanding there is no one else.

Speaker 11 There is no one else that can pull this off outside of me. As great as I am, they don't want to lose the asset that is me because my value is at its highest peak right now.

Speaker 11 And understanding I can get what I want by doing this. This was very strategic.
It was well thought out. He understood what the Browns were.
They weren't changing in one year.

Speaker 11 They're not gonna change in two years hell they ain't changed in the past 35 years correct nothing no it was you know it's about games about getting your bag getting your money that's what it's about you know no anything to bust around it now when you get in front of the media you know you get in front of the media of course you're gonna see all the right things of course come on now that's a part of the game you're right it's a part of the game and that's that's that's what it is I agree with everything that you said.

Speaker 11 I think Miles Garrett is an outstanding football player. He seems like an

Speaker 11 upstanding young man. But at this point, I don't feel sorry for him.
I can't.

Speaker 11 I can't.

Speaker 11 This is what you signed up for, Ocho.

Speaker 11 The days of, Ocho, you remember back in the day, Ocho, be like, okay,

Speaker 11 the military, Uncle Sam looking for a few good men. Back then, you go train a little bit.
You're like, hey, I'm going to get that GI bill. I'm going to get college played for.

Speaker 11 Now, you sign up for the military, you're going to fight. Oh, yeah.
They got all this stuff going on around the world. You're going.

Speaker 11 Everywhere.

Speaker 11 yeah it ain't no it ain't no just no no no video games you go a couple of weekends and you have field duties and you go you know no no no no no no no no all that all a uh all that trying to join all that trying to join to go get you a hellcat and get you a challenger oh you're oh you're gonna earn that oh you earned that oh you're gonna you're gonna earn you gonna earn that

Speaker 11 with everything that's going on around the world it's a different time i can't as much as i want to right i don't feel empathy i don't feel i don't feel compassion for miles because this is what he signed up for.

Speaker 11 This is what he signed up for. Okay, now that you got your money, you see that, go ahead and ask for a trade.
Try to go somewhere, bro. That you can win.
Hold on.

Speaker 11 Matter of fact, what if, as great as he is, most of the time, teams listening to trade talks when it comes to players like this, understand what the Keeping Browns can get for a Miles Garrett right now?

Speaker 11 Yes. Improve and boast of

Speaker 11 their roster for the foreseeable future, understanding that they're not going anywhere.

Speaker 11 You're not going anywhere. And they got five sacks and they got the brakes beat off him.
So it it clearly, it doesn't matter what he does.

Speaker 11 You're not any closer to your ultimate goal with Miles Garrett than you would be without him.

Speaker 11 So I might as well get pieces that I build, I can fill in that I believe that's going to help me get closer. Yes, I would love to be able to win a championship with Miles Garrett.

Speaker 11 But you saw today, you see his impact. He's been a defensive player of the year.
He's won the award, but he's in defensive player of the year contention every single year. And you're

Speaker 11 no closer to winning the division. You're

Speaker 11 no closer to winning uh getting into the playoffs or winning a playoff game than you would be without it i i have a question too yes i hate to throw this out there and i don't mean i don't i don't know chat y'all stay with me real quick and tell me what y'all think about this jerry jones jerry jones made some phone calls right he made some phone calls down to las vegas yeah birdie told me he made some phone calls down to cincinnati but both of those teams said nah we good yeah you think about Jerry Jones making a call on Dinetta Cleveland and goal to get 95.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it's going to probably take three first-round picks. But yeah, the Cowboys have the capital.

Speaker 11 The Eagles will do it.

Speaker 11 Detroit will do it. You got to have somebody

Speaker 11 that would put that, you know.

Speaker 11 Now, here's the thing that's going to be tricky about Detroit. Because Hutch, you're going to have to do something with Hutch this year.
Right.

Speaker 11 You got to do, you're going to have to do something with him hey could you imagine aiden hunch is on one side no i don't want to imagine that man with that offense that ain't that that's not fair that's not fair you might as well just ship the goddamn lombardi right out there to him right now oh for sure absolutely and and if you put him in dallas him on that turf

Speaker 11 man stop playing

Speaker 11 now that's now that's a different maker That's a different maker because the offense is so good. The offense is so good.

Speaker 11 You're going to be playing with a lead and he's going to have, he's going to get the rush all the time. There it is.

Speaker 11 There it is. And that's an impact player that will make your defense that much better.
For sure.

Speaker 11 That's absolutely. That's absolutely for certain, Ocho.
But it's just, it's just tough. I mean, you know, yeah,

Speaker 11 I just don't know what he thought. And I look, we told, I know why he did it too.
Like you said, there is no more guarantee.

Speaker 11 I need a contract. I ain't playing this last year with no guaranteed money.
I want guaranteed money. I requested a trade.
I understand what I mean in the community. I really love the city.

Speaker 11 Yada, yada, yada. Oh, they came and said, we got 40 million.
We got 105, 110 million fully guaranteed. Okay, I'm good.
He knows they're not going to win, but he got guaranteed money. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I mean, listen, we all know, you know, and those on the outside, I mean, those with those. Let me ask you a question, Ocho.

Speaker 11 Before you go any further, do you believe if he says, I want to get traded, and he said my destination would be the Eagles, I would like to go to the Eagles, or I got to go go to go to Detroit.

Speaker 11 Do you believe they gave him a similar contract? Because I do. Yeah, absolutely.
Thank you. Absolutely.
But what he's done before he hit 30 years old,

Speaker 11 he won't be 30. He won't be 30 until the 29th of December.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 That man got two months. Yeah.
Do you know how many sacks this man is going to have in two months? Yeah.

Speaker 11 And see, that's why I said they would have been willing to do it because of what he's already accomplished. And he has 30.
Right. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah. But listen, it still might happen.

Speaker 11 It still might happen because right now,

Speaker 11 the Browns, the organization, the GM, the scouts, the owner, I mean, we're really not going anywhere because

Speaker 11 we're not.

Speaker 11 We're not winning with them. So why don't we get pieces that we can use and continue to build for the foreseeable future? But here's the thing, Ocho.

Speaker 11 Can they build?

Speaker 11 Nah.

Speaker 11 Yeah, maybe Legos.

Speaker 11 exactly

Speaker 11 toy language that's what that's what they that's what they showed us yes

Speaker 11 they they had a quarterback but they didn't want him to be himself

Speaker 11 he got injured and he played he tried to play through it and you know

Speaker 11 had me convinced that he couldn't play right no he could play he just need pieces around him yeah as all as all quarterbacks do yeah yes look at him when he got pieces around him

Speaker 11 ta-da

Speaker 11 Looking good.

Speaker 11 And, you know, look, they,

Speaker 11 when they got high draft picks, but see,

Speaker 11 you got Miles Garrett. Okay.
Slam dunk.

Speaker 11 You got Baker. Baker played good for a couple of years.
He got injured. You didn't have the pieces around him.
Right. But you got Denzel Ward.
But here's the thing, Ocho.

Speaker 11 it's those second round it's the second through fifth that builds your football team Yeah.

Speaker 11 That's where you make it.

Speaker 11 That's the way, that's the way you build a football team. Yeah.

Speaker 11 It's those pieces. So do we believe Cleveland can

Speaker 11 fill in the blanks? That's the question. Can they fill in the blanks, Ocho? Well, have they been able to fill them in the past, who knows how long? No.

Speaker 11 There's your answer. No, they hadn't had a quarterback since

Speaker 11 Bernie Colzar was taking him to the ALC championship game consistently. Now, Baker had a couple of good years, but I'm talking about consistent play

Speaker 11 for a three, four-year stretch. It was Bernie.

Speaker 11 You know, they in

Speaker 11 80, 1980, when they had the Cardiac Kids, Brian Seych, Ozzie Newsome, Reggie Rucker, those guys. Yeah.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 they haven't been that

Speaker 11 in a while. You know, they was good.
And like I said, when they had Bernie, they had Ernest Bider, Kevin Mack, they had Ozzie. I think with

Speaker 11 Sloan there, Metcalf was there too.

Speaker 11 Metcalf came in 90. Metcalf was in my draft.
No, Metcalf might have been 89.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think Metcalf might have been 89.

Speaker 11 So he was there. Yeah, he might have been there.
He was there. Man, he was.
You had to see him, man. That joke could stop on a dime, OJo.

Speaker 11 With them high knees. Yeah.
Yeah. Man, Calvin liked that.

Speaker 11 He must have ran track, huh? Yeah, I think he did. Yeah, because he was silky smooth, man.
He exaggerated his running form as if he was on the track.

Speaker 11 Garrett, 2000 to 2023 defensive player of the year, when he had 14 sacks. The five sacks today give him 10 for the season with nine games to play.

Speaker 11 It'll be tough for players on a losing team to win postseason awards, but he's going to be tough to ignore.

Speaker 11 Brian Burns is another. I think Brian Burns has 10 or 11 sacks.
Garrett, eight consecutive season with at least 10 sacks. He's on pace to shadow his previous high of 16 sacks in a season.

Speaker 11 That's how well he's playing, but it's going to go unnoticed. Yeah.
Well, listen,

Speaker 11 if he continues to make noise, continue to make noise. I think, obviously, before November 4th, I don't think he's going to be there.
No, no, no. No, I don't think they're trading to the sea.

Speaker 11 But let me tell you, Socho.

Speaker 11 Think about this. Do you know how hard it is to get sacks when you're getting your ass kicked? Yeah.

Speaker 11 This man got 10 sacks. This man got five sacks and they ran the ball for damn near 200 yards on him.

Speaker 11 And he's still putting the numbers on that team. And that's crazy.

Speaker 11 I need to talk to Andrew Berry.

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