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Speaker 3 People going to Dubai to get shitted on for $50,000. Hummus Bukaki.
That's what they call it. Look it up.
They're getting fucked by German shepherds and

Speaker 2 how much would you take to get to get shitted on?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 2 I probably would have to get shitted on for like,

Speaker 2 I don't know. $25,000.
Fuck no. I don't think I can get shit.
$50,000.

Speaker 3 No, because I think that I will be traumatized.

Speaker 2 My piece of mind. $100,000.

Speaker 3 No, I'm not getting shitted on for for $100,000.

Speaker 2 A million. No, I don't think I can.
A million dollars. Here, let me go.

Speaker 3 Ew, I can't. A million?

Speaker 2 No, that's only going to take five minutes.

Speaker 3 And what do I do? I have to do just sit down.

Speaker 2 No, just sit right, just lay down.

Speaker 2 And you throw it, you put it on your mouth and everything. No.
It's wet. It's wet, though.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 A million? No. It's five, you can wash that off, go to the shower.

Speaker 2 A million? I don't know.

Speaker 2 One million. One million for a five-minute shit.

Speaker 2 Wet, wet, wet.

Speaker 3 Is it in the mouth? Is it in the mouth?

Speaker 2 No, you just.

Speaker 3 It's not in the mouth.

Speaker 3 It's not in the mouth.

Speaker 3 If it's not in the mouth, is it? No, you close your mouth.

Speaker 2 Is it in the nose? You wear glasses and everything.

Speaker 3 Is it in the nose?

Speaker 2 Listen, man. This is a million dollars.
Stop making speculation. Stop putting stipulations on this.
You're getting a million dollars. Shut up.

Speaker 3 Five minutes.

Speaker 2 It's only going to take less than that, probably.

Speaker 2 And that's it. It's diarrhea, though.
Oh.

Speaker 2 a million. I don't know.
Tax-free.

Speaker 2 I might.

Speaker 2 I might.

Speaker 2 All right, let me go to the basket. Watch this off.

Speaker 2 Because that's what I heard they're doing in Dubai.

Speaker 3 They are doing that, but they're not getting a million. You got the offer? They're getting 50,000.

Speaker 2 What if you got it? You got the offer? For 50?

Speaker 2 Did you get an offer from Dubai? I've always got an offer from Dubai.

Speaker 2 Let's keep it wide.

Speaker 2 She got off the dog.

Speaker 2 You didn't sign sign the contract. She done signed the contract.

Speaker 2 I have every option the world is able to have.

Speaker 3 And baby, I haven't took any options.

Speaker 2 So now, when I meet girls, this is what I'm going to be like, hey, have you been to Dubai?

Speaker 3 If they say yes. I've never been.

Speaker 2 No, no, no. This is my thing.
If I'm like, hey, you know, have you been to Dubai? She's like, yeah, I've been to Dubai. I'm going to know they got shit in her.

Speaker 3 They had to.

Speaker 2 What's the age limit? Age limit? As far as youth to older.

Speaker 2 What's the youngest to the oldest? Like, what's your range?

Speaker 3 Damn, I'm telling myself right now.

Speaker 2 I would say, right, like right now, at my age, right now. Yeah, I would not date younger than 25, 26.

Speaker 2 Why are you laughing? Why is that buddy? No, because I thought she was going to be able to get me.

Speaker 3 I thought you would say.

Speaker 2 I thought she was going to be on some 35 to 56. Me too.
Oh, no. I mean, I don't think I could.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to get up here and lie, okay?

Speaker 2 Young men are very aggressive, and they do not care how old I am.

Speaker 3 Wait, but Joy, I have to ask you because this is a whole thing with women.

Speaker 2 25 years ago, they're saying that these young men are really.

Speaker 2 They're saying that. Nah, you ain't about to have me out here on some bullshit.
25 is a grown-ass mother.

Speaker 3 They're saying 25-year-old men are where it's at. All the older women, that's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 3 The women that I've been talking to, like in their 30s, late 30s, they're like, yo, is our like these younger men, they come, they're intentional, they come with it, they're like not playing around.

Speaker 3 They want to date you. They like treat you like you're a goddess.
They appreciate you. They talk life into you.
Like, I am hearing that these younger men from all these women, they are where it's at.

Speaker 3 I've never dated a younger man before. No, I've never wanted to.

Speaker 3 But like at this point, they're talking about.

Speaker 2 Just the truth after dark? They're telling the truth. This is what I'm hearing.

Speaker 3 And even though.

Speaker 2 But I don't, like, it's 20. I don't want to be clear here because I'm not, I don't, like, 25 is a grown man.
It's a grown man.

Speaker 3 Okay. You're not.

Speaker 2 Don't you know that you're not rather have me on some bullshit.

Speaker 2 25. You don't have the internet beats.

Speaker 2 No, 25 is grown.

Speaker 3 And the ones that have approached me, they are. They're like.

Speaker 2 Well, I would say 25 to 10 25 to

Speaker 2 I'd say 25 to like

Speaker 2 probably like 70

Speaker 3 25 to 70 is a crazy range.

Speaker 2 Okay, but here's the thing about older men though. Okay, tell me.
And to be clear, like, I date, I date within five years of my age range. Like, I don't, you know, I'm just answering the question.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 um, if you see me pull up with a 70-year-old, don't ask any fucking questions. Okay, he's got a plane.
I'm doing this for all of us.

Speaker 2 You're bringing this for me, don't fucking ask no questions.

Speaker 2 You better dap on my palm. What's up, bro?

Speaker 2 We get a bottle of camus.

Speaker 2 Yeah, very real nice.

Speaker 2 We're gonna treat him real good. Act like everything is normal.
Everything is normal. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 But you know, like, my dad is 77. 77.
And he looks so good. I mean, amazing.
My dad is like tall, dark, handsome. He looks all like even the housekeeper's.

Speaker 2 But you know what? You know what I like about older men? Older men have great stories. I like to talk.
They got all the stories. They're very confident.
They do. They appreciate you.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? They do.

Speaker 2 They're very sweet.

Speaker 3 I can't have sex with an old wrinkly penis. I'm so scared.
That's my only thing.

Speaker 2 I'm like, why do you think they're wrinkly? Well, I don't know. Are they? Aren't all penises wrinkly?

Speaker 2 I don't know. Don't turn the Rolodex.
Maybe. I mean, at one point throughout the day, all penises are wrinkly.

Speaker 3 You're right. When they're soft.

Speaker 2 At the beginning. Yeah, at the beginning.
You're right. In resting state.

Speaker 2 In resting state. But is it, you know, they say they're like...
It's kind of like one big wrinkle. You're right.

Speaker 3 And they say older men don't even want to have sex like that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's crazy. So, hey, that might be a good look.

Speaker 2 But I don't even, I don't really be having these kind of conversations with people because it's like I'm talking to, you know, most of the time when I used to, you're not doing it to me right now, big brother.

Speaker 2 And there's no disrespect to you, but I just been through the wringle with it because they would take it and use it for clickbait. And I'm like, I'm actually just gaining knowledge.

Speaker 2 But have you ever masturbated and felt guilty and shameful afterwards?

Speaker 2 Man.

Speaker 2 Have you ever watched porn and masturbated and celebrated another man's success?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Because, like, I don't watch porn because

Speaker 2 I noticed

Speaker 2 my neuropath started changing. I used to, though.

Speaker 2 I don't think I've ever been into porn. Really?

Speaker 2 Oh, wow. That's beautiful.
I was at one time. Yeah.
I used to be watching porn, talking about, man, that nigga killing that old son.

Speaker 2 You know, and I used to get, I used to sit there and masturbate and watch porn. I used to sneak and do it to one time this brother had told me, he said, you know that self-mutilation?

Speaker 2 He says, you celebrating to another, you jacking off to another man's success. Oh.

Speaker 2 It's other ways to stimulate yourself mentally.

Speaker 2 And then he started telling me about sex transmutation where you could take that sexual energy and channel it into your workouts, into your craft, into your music.

Speaker 2 You were traveling and channeling it into whatever it is that you focused on at the time.

Speaker 2 And that's when I was like, that's crazy. Like, if you pleasure-driven, you develop addictions.
If you purpose-driven, you develop riches

Speaker 2 and not just with wealth of the of the of the pocket but of the heart and of the mind yeah because like i'm i'm a freak for like new information like i love to be stimulated mentally right like i love conversations that leave me feeling refreshed right you ever had a conversation with somebody and i'm like it's draining talking to you it's draining being around you

Speaker 2 And then you didn't have conversations where it stimulates you. It's like, it's like porn.
Yes, sir. It's It's like porn.
You're like, hold on, this is going crazy. I'm talking to you.

Speaker 2 It's a mental safari. Man, I've had that.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I've had that with her. It's intellectual intercourse.
Like,

Speaker 2 I've had good conversations. So it's like, damn, that's beautiful.
It's like it is beautiful.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And that's the one.

Speaker 2 So when you

Speaker 2 like, when you have that with a female, that's like eternal,

Speaker 2 right?

Speaker 2 Or how does it? It depends on her spirit.

Speaker 2 Like for me, it depends.

Speaker 2 Because that don't come around.

Speaker 2 That don't happen a lot. That's going to happen like once every

Speaker 2 blue moon. To where it's going to be a conversation.
Because most of the time I'll have a conversation with somebody, and I'm just sitting there just like,

Speaker 2 it's sounding like yada, yada, yada. You know, sometimes, you know, sometimes

Speaker 2 we're not protective of our energy in in the way that we should be because

Speaker 2 sometimes I say, excuse me, sometimes I say, I'm held responsible for the places that I place myself.

Speaker 2 But that's physically. Right.
But I've been working with this other guy. You know what the fascia is?

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 we've been working on like releasing certain traumas in your fascia.

Speaker 2 And we've been working on that. And he's told me something that was so beautiful.
He said, the physical, the mental, the spiritual is all one system. If one thing's off, everything's off.

Speaker 2 And I said, Wow. And it intrigued me to the point I was like,

Speaker 2 I'm not overprotective of myself where I place myself energetically and spiritually and psychologically. I need to start being more cognitive in these areas.

Speaker 2 Physically, I know certain areas and certain places I'm not going to place myself, but it's certain places I shouldn't even place myself energetically.

Speaker 2 I never thought of that. All spiritually, all psychologically.
And I was like, you know what?

Speaker 2 It's not because I feel like I'm better,

Speaker 2 it's because I know I am.

Speaker 2 No, I know you did. Hold on.
Why you hang up? I accidentally hung up. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 They said, what's up? He's trying to tell you, hey, what up, son? That's Paul Pierce, the legend, man. I'm right here doing a podcast right now.
I'm working.

Speaker 2 I was about to text you, but you just called five more times like you insisted on talking.

Speaker 2 What's up? Oh,

Speaker 2 What's the question? You are on camera. Don't say nothing crazy, bro.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I told you I'm going to bring you out for sure. I got you.
We can't say the date because I'm being recorded right now. It's a surprise.
Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 2 He wanted to be a rapper, so what's up?

Speaker 2 What? What do you say?

Speaker 2 I'm going to give you something on my back end. I'll give you a little something, man.
I got a little something, something fake. Give out his money.

Speaker 2 I got a little something, something fake, son. I'm going to call you when I'm done, man.
I love you.

Speaker 2 He's different, bro.

Speaker 2 Somebody gonna get some money off.

Speaker 3 Does size matter to women?

Speaker 2 You answer that.

Speaker 3 Now I can answer.

Speaker 2 I would say

Speaker 3 it does to a certain degree. Like,

Speaker 3 if you just have a little little thing, like, they're not gonna be able to feel it.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 3 at Papa Georgio 9.

Speaker 2 How are they not gonna feel it?

Speaker 2 You went to the next question.

Speaker 3 What do you want to say if it's this like very simple thing?

Speaker 2 What's equatable? Like, what's what's

Speaker 2 that a word?

Speaker 2 Equatable.

Speaker 3 Man, that wasn't even a word. What equates?

Speaker 2 Like, like, all right, so like.

Speaker 2 Equatable is easy. Like, like

Speaker 2 9, 10.

Speaker 2 Like, what, what's, what, what?

Speaker 3 I don't know about inches and things with these penis things. I can only say this.
Like,

Speaker 3 I have had sex with a man and I'm like, ooh, yes, this fits for me. This is me.
And I've had sex with the man who I was dating and I'm like, this penis is not for me. I could just tell.

Speaker 3 Like, it's not mine. Like, I could tell if it's mine or not.

Speaker 2 How long did you date him?

Speaker 3 We were dating for a year.

Speaker 2 How did it last so long?

Speaker 3 Like, he did other things that, you know, pleased me.

Speaker 2 Like what? Like,

Speaker 3 gave me a head and stuff. And I would.
come, you know, like from that. And so that was great.

Speaker 3 So I enjoyed that. But it just wasn't feeling like anything.
Like,

Speaker 3 I just wanted to move on. I wasn't feeling the connection.
I didn't feel like it was a deep connection or whatever.

Speaker 2 All right. Fair.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Fair.

Speaker 3 So at Papa Giorgio 9, men have simple needs. Why do men struggle? Why do women struggle to meet them?

Speaker 2 That's a great question.

Speaker 2 I will, I don't know, I don't know why women struggle to meet a man's needs because a man's needs are free.

Speaker 2 A woman's needs cost money.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's true. Most of them.

Speaker 2 I mean, you can talk about I need love and affection, all that. No, no, we know what you need.
It costs money, all that. That's what the world we live in.

Speaker 2 If he came in, my lifestyle, a man ain't never shooting nothing like that, baby.

Speaker 2 rub my neck rub my back that don't cost nothing you want make me some food i i matter of fact i'll pay for the food for you to make it

Speaker 3 you want it don't cost nothing for a woman to please a man it costs money for a woman man to please a woman you want to know what else i'll say and i'll make it quick i feel like men were raised on how to treat a woman well and women were raised how to treat a woman well.

Speaker 2 By who?

Speaker 3 By their mothers, you know, or whoever was around. Like, it's all about, like, you need to do this for a girl.
You open the door, do this.

Speaker 3 And women were treated on how to get what they need from a man. They were never, they were never,

Speaker 3 they were never taught. Women are not taught to do these things for a man.
Now, other cultures, which is what you would say, an American woman or even other cultures, like my mom's Persian.

Speaker 3 I've seen that. They're very submissive.
You have to do all this.

Speaker 3 But other, but most American culture people, they are not taught to, especially black women, don't kill me, but I feel like a lot of women were raised by independent mothers.

Speaker 3 So for them, they wanted to protect their child and they wanted their child not to be in their position. So in order to protect their child, it was like, look, this is what you need from a man.

Speaker 3 And if he's not doing this, this, and this, and this, you're not supposed to mess with him. And a man was taught how to give the needs to a woman.
You're supposed to open her door.

Speaker 3 You're supposed to make sure you have this. Have enough money to take care of her.
Take her on a date. Do this.
So women were not taught that, a lot of women, period. And that's just what I think.

Speaker 3 Don't shoot me and don't kill me off of that one.

Speaker 3 At seat 1B, should a man with no kids at age 38 date a woman with kids or solely date women with no kids?

Speaker 2 If you're 38,

Speaker 2 I have to just kind of look at your financial situation.

Speaker 2 Because most men at 38 with no kids in a comfortable financial situation, it's going to take a younger woman around the age of 26 that got no kids that he can probably like

Speaker 2 have some kids with and grow some with. I think.

Speaker 3 What if she's 26 and has kids, though?

Speaker 2 Well, if he's 38 and got no kids, he could just find somebody that's 26 with no kids. Okay.

Speaker 3 What if he doesn't want to date someone that's 12 years younger than him because it's not relatable? And he actually wants a woman of his age or close to his age. Have you ever thought of that?

Speaker 3 Why would he do that? Why wouldn't he do that? Why wouldn't someone want to relate to someone? At 26, they don't even know how to put on lotion on their

Speaker 3 asshole.

Speaker 3 What do you mean? What if someone doesn't want to be dating someone in their 20s?

Speaker 2 What the age should a 38 or with no kids date? What's the age?

Speaker 3 Should he date?

Speaker 2 He didn't ask about what he did. Like he's going to be, if he's talking to somebody 33 and up, they're going to have kids and he ain't got no kids.

Speaker 2 So now I'm going to just put myself in a situation where I'll dating you and I'm with you and I'll just push myself into a family situation.

Speaker 3 I don't have kids and I'm in my 30s, my early, early 30s.

Speaker 3 So not every question. Yeah, so there's women that are in their 30s that don't have children a lot because women are now statistically having more children in their 40s.
It's a statistic.

Speaker 2 So most women who don't got no kids in their mid-30s are cooked.

Speaker 2 I'm not saying that's you. Well, I'm almost in my mid-30s.
Like, no. Like, clearly there's men out there that I see on the messages that want to have kids with you and do all that with you.

Speaker 2 I get it. But, like, most women in that situation.

Speaker 2 They're down bad. They down bad.

Speaker 3 That's not true.

Speaker 3 And you know what? I'm going to say this, and I'm done, and I'm done with the podcast. I'm going to say that I'm 34.
I'm not in my mid-30s, but next year I will be mid-30s, I guess.

Speaker 3 And, you know, I've had plenty of opportunities to have children with men who wanted me to have their children. Am I cooked or am I smart?

Speaker 3 Because I would have been somebody's baby mama because that wasn't a connection. A lot of these women with children are baby mothers and they're not wives.
Okay. So I can have a baby.

Speaker 3 Having a baby is easy. I'm very fertile like a Latina.
I'm fertile as hell. And I can have a baby any moment right now.
And I've been in the situation where I could have had that.

Speaker 3 So am I cooked or am I smart? Because right now I could have been here with two children with a man that I don't even want to be with. I could be married.

Speaker 3 I know plenty of people who are married to people they don't even fuck with just to say that they have a child and they have a husband.

Speaker 3 I'm so sorry that I didn't want to be another fucking statistic, but I'm cooked. I think I'm very fucking smart.

Speaker 3 Actually, I think that I'm very smart that I'm not spending my time mothering a child by a man that I don't even want to be with.

Speaker 3 Not being in the same household as that man because every man I ever been with, I did not want to be with him because I was not at the level of maturity that I am now.

Speaker 3 I'm not at the mental maturity that I am now. And I have not evolved to attract that certain type of partner.
I've done the work.

Speaker 3 And unfortunately, I've been through a lot of shit in my life that made my journey a little slower than most, but I'm the one, never the two. Are you falling asleep on my conversation?

Speaker 2 It's taking so long for the answer. Fuck you.

Speaker 2 You are crazy.

Speaker 3 You're telling me I'm taking logs. You know how long you take to say something?

Speaker 3 this is fucked up I'm getting off of this podcast thank you guys

Speaker 3 you started the movement in the hashtag of black men don't cheat yeah and so that's what I'm talking about

Speaker 3 we don't so let's get into this and then and then you said something that I

Speaker 3 that I love you said but if your woman is white you could cheat yeah so what does that mean let's get into why is if they're white you could cheat because as a white woman you shouldn't be in black man business like that Oh,

Speaker 2 come on now. Hold on.

Speaker 2 But what if we all together? That can't be.

Speaker 2 You just together.

Speaker 2 Like, that's the relationship. Like, hold on, hold on.
This is my girl, and she's a white lady. She can't go through your phone.
She can't ask you.

Speaker 2 Why are you doing that?

Speaker 2 She really saying you don't trust me.

Speaker 2 And I'm a black man. What other reason do you have not to trust me other than I'm black? Ooh.

Speaker 2 that's some

Speaker 2 okay okay wait a minute so so would that be the reason why black men date white women more no i i saw that you saw his clip because i wanted to ask what was your thoughts what what you think why do like now the question was the question was more like athletes nb she asked i asked him about the athletes but in general general why do black men date white women in your opinion just be honest is it because they're more easy and i say no but how you they how you gonna say they more easy i'm asking i say quote unquote it's a lot of different reasons okay i think this is just my opinion right no doubt these just like my observations and the things that i've seen

Speaker 2 white women make themselves more available in what ways they be around

Speaker 2 they show up they know where the athletes are gonna be at

Speaker 2 I have heard that they pop and then with the athletes and all that shit like you got to keep in mind it's like tears to the like college and then like the professional and shit like that.

Speaker 2 They hang around that. They linger.
That's what they're doing.

Speaker 2 They'll watch you strike out all night and it don't affect your chances with them or nothing.

Speaker 2 They want to be down. So they make themselves more available to the shit.
As opposed to playing hard to get, act like you don't know this motherfucker. They be knowing.
They know the stats.

Speaker 3 But I'm going to say this, and I really want everyone to hear me when I say this right now, though. Listen to this, though.
I want black men to learn and really do better.

Speaker 3 Because one thing about these white women is as soon as they don't get their way or something rubs them the wrong way, you are an N-word hard ER. And that's the truth.

Speaker 3 You'll be that anyway, but you really gonna be that. And they're gonna take you to court and take everything you have.

Speaker 3 Because unfortunately, although black women are powerful in our feminine, in our divine, just how we are as women, we're so powerful. But white women are powerful in America.

Speaker 3 And when they say something, it's going to make a difference in the community, unfortunately. And y'all keep messing with these white women.

Speaker 2 You ain't never seen me with no white woman. But I haven't even seen Paul with a white woman.

Speaker 3 I'm just saying black men do this. And then when they're coming down and they have their downfall with these women, they want to run to the black women for support.

Speaker 3 And it's like, no, at the end of the day, black women are the most loyal statistically to their own men. And people could say, I'm not black or whatever it is, but I date black men.

Speaker 3 And also, to your point, black men don't cheat. Every black man I've been with have cheated.

Speaker 2 That sounds like a personal problem. How is that my problem?

Speaker 2 What are you doing that's making these men cheat on you? So, this is where I probably don't let them talk and get all angry and shit and be accusing them of being a white woman.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You projected on me, and I just got here.
I'm a gas.

Speaker 2 I can definitely see why motherfuckers cheating on you. Wow.

Speaker 2 Your imagination runs. Wow.
So, wow. That part.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, because I saw you say that when people cheat, they just cheat. And it doesn't matter.
It doesn't make you less as a woman or a man.

Speaker 2 People just be liking the fuck. It's the fuck, yeah.
They be fucking

Speaker 3 what have you given up in a relationship?

Speaker 2 Oh man,

Speaker 2 and do you feel the difference between compromise?

Speaker 3 Do you feel like there's a difference between compromise and sacrifice?

Speaker 7 I think men always have to do a little bit more, honestly. That's my honest opinion.
Men always have to do a little bit more compromising, a little bit more.

Speaker 2 And it's not by a lot.

Speaker 7 It's not like, oh my God, we just, but it's a little bit more. We got to swallow the pill a little bit more than you guys.

Speaker 3 Explain, expand.

Speaker 2 more i okay i want to hear why um

Speaker 2 okay because we got more ego to like to do yes

Speaker 7 that you know being the i think the strength we the king yes i agreed 100 i think the strength is is in that i feel like you know i've been able to be very

Speaker 7 apologetic and accountable. And I feel like a lot of times, the majority of the times, my partner has not been, you know, even over something small, right?

Speaker 7 Like I've done something small and I've been like, look, I want to apologize to you because I kind of had a bad day and I can do that, right?

Speaker 7 It's easy for me because I want you to know that you're not the issue. I'm going through something and I allowed that to hang on to you and I apologize.

Speaker 7 I've been in situations where that can linger for days, four or five days.

Speaker 7 And now I'm sorry, effing, feeling weird because you're having an issue, but you don't know how to communicate that issue to me. And so I got to swallow more pride than you.

Speaker 7 I got to, I got to, and it's because you don't want to maybe, or I don't know. I'm speaking about a multitude of situations, but the consensus I've gotten is I've always had to just kind of

Speaker 2 sorry.

Speaker 7 All right, yeah, let's go because I'm driving the ship. We got to go where I have to go because I'm making the money, right? We have to go to this thing, we have to go to this event.

Speaker 7 I can't go to this event, and you have a problem, so I need to clear the problem and make sure that we're straight before we go in here because I can't have any issues in here, right?

Speaker 7 I don't think that, you know, on the other foot, it's it's it's the same. Um, I haven't seen it.
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 3 Do you think that women have a tough time being accountable and apologizing, period? Yes.

Speaker 7 I think everyone does.

Speaker 7 I'm going to say, for me, I think I'm actually a lot better

Speaker 7 than some people that I know in terms of just apologizing and owning stuff up and, you know, just trying to get through it because I've been through so much and I actually have seen the benefits of it.

Speaker 7 And I feel like a lot of people who don't do it, so they don't see the benefits of it. But once you do, you're like, oh, if I just do this,

Speaker 2 we're good.

Speaker 7 Yeah. But if I sit up here and I can't speak what's on my mind and I'm mad for the next week, I'm ruining my quality of life.

Speaker 7 I'm wasting my time also.

Speaker 7 I'm wasting my time because I love you, you love me. We want the same stuff.
Why would we spend these four days, four hours being mad? And I'm not saying every issue can be fixed like that.

Speaker 7 Oh, you just want me to blah, blah. It's like, no, but if I'm hearing what you're saying, I'm understanding it.
I'm on your side. I'm not against you.
I want to hear what you have to say.

Speaker 7 I want you to say what you have to say.

Speaker 2 Now, what are we going to do?

Speaker 7 Right? What are we going to do now? Like, let's not... So that's a big thing for me when it comes to partners.
I can't do the childish.

Speaker 7 You know, that's very hard for me. It's very hard for me to like deal because I'm like, I already got enough on my plate.
My brain's going to explode the amount of stuff that's in it all the time.

Speaker 7 So it's like, I need you to.

Speaker 7 And I've, you know, it's,

Speaker 7 it's not like a, it's not a horrible thing to have to deal with, but it's an annoyance. It can be sometimes annoying, but it's, you know, you take the crooked with the straights in life.

Speaker 7 Again, that goes back to there's stuff I don't like, but I've yet to be in a situation where it doesn't exist, which I'm fine with. But it is something that can be agitating sometimes.

Speaker 3 So Corinne Steffens, a superhead, she went on.

Speaker 2 That's crazy to have that type of nickname. Right.

Speaker 3 So,

Speaker 3 she went on

Speaker 3 actually one of my friends' podcasts, and she has a clip that's going viral.

Speaker 3 And she said, Marry the hoe, meaning like men should marry whores because they really want to be with whores, but instead, they feel like they are supposed to be with like the good girl, the virgin, the girl who's like composed and put put together.

Speaker 3 But then they cheat on her with the whore.

Speaker 3 So she's like, just marry the whore and stop playing around.

Speaker 2 Acting like, whores don't get cheated on either. Come on now.
Is she married? No.

Speaker 2 There we go. Why is she not married then? Because she's just trying to promote that.
You know what? I remember her from the early 2000s. You know,

Speaker 2 writing a book or something or

Speaker 2 getting around. She wrote like a tell-all of all the men she had sex with or whatever trying to get back relevant and everything man nobody messing with her man come on

Speaker 3 and little wayne and you know what's so crazy that she says this she was in a relationship whether i don't know if she was married or not but she said that no matter what relationship that she was in married or not if little wayne calls she's leaving and she's gonna go fucking suck him girl who wants that I'm so confused.

Speaker 3 That's why men don't want to marry a hoe because once a hoe, always a hoe, baby. And you're going to turn around around and go fucking suck the next person.
And that's crazy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, she's trying to spark some interest, but that ain't it. You know, she needs to, she cooked.

Speaker 3 Well, she was saying that what a hoe will give you is better than what like a household will give you.

Speaker 2 I will tell you this about like

Speaker 2 women who are considered hoes

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 men that like them.

Speaker 2 Men like

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 for just so long.

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? But, you know, like

Speaker 2 when you look at the longevity of somebody, you want somebody that is more than that. Like, come on now.

Speaker 2 Like, just because sex is cool and you're doing all these things that a man like, that don't mean that's going to last forever.

Speaker 2 Like, when it gets down to like sitting around and really bringing some substance to the table and really bringing like

Speaker 2 some maturity, bringing like some value to the table outside of sex what is that right you know what i'm saying and that's what men really look for long term and that's always gonna outweigh long run than the sex yeah i'm telling you because the sex is gonna wear out eventually

Speaker 2 you know and he's gonna be looking at other girls sexually yeah you know but then all these other things that you bring that got like some substance to it

Speaker 3 Can't be replaced so easily.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's gonna last a little. It's gonna last way longer.

Speaker 2 it's like come on man like because sex is everywhere you know what i mean and you could get it you can see it you could you could pay for it you could see it you could get it you could run up on it like the easiest thing but like a real quality in a woman like great qualities in a woman is hard to come by yeah you know someone that you look at that's like man i can just see her really teaching kids this or i can see her you know really expanding on what i got or me expanding on what she got yeah you You know, it's bigger than that.

Speaker 2 And that's why we are brainwashing society to look at females sexually and be like, that's the one. And

Speaker 2 too many women are sexualized. Yeah.
And men go for that instead of really looking at the substance of a woman in the long run and being with that long term.

Speaker 3 That makes sense. And it's funny you say that because a part of what she was saying was like, well, this girl can bring this and do this, but is she going to wake up and twist it and turn it

Speaker 3 every single day? I'm corny, I'm doing this. And it's like, damn, like, and what if your partner is not feeling that? Are you gonna need that to where you got to go get it from someone else?

Speaker 3 Like, if everything is driven off of sex, it's not gonna have real longevity in a relationship, and that's just the truth.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's, I mean, I get what she's trying to say.

Speaker 2 I do too. Relationships, and I said this some episodes ago.
I feel like do be based on sex

Speaker 2 in a lot of ways. Because if I'm with you and

Speaker 2 you find out I have sex with another person, it could be over. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 And it's like, damn, you didn't look at everything else I brought to the table, the intangibles, the substance, like that just go out the window. Yeah.
Because of a

Speaker 3 mishap, because of a mistake?

Speaker 2 Well, because of just like

Speaker 2 sex is just like,

Speaker 2 it's in our mind.

Speaker 2 It's like,

Speaker 2 how do I even explain or work? It's, you know, it's, it's a beautiful thing when done with the person that you're really feeling. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 But if it's just like casually done and just because you just a horny bastard and like she being a hoe, it's just like,

Speaker 2 damn,

Speaker 2 why did I risk all other things

Speaker 2 for that?

Speaker 2 But we're sometimes as men and women, weak individuals. Yeah, you have mistakes, man.
Because of

Speaker 2 sex and that it's like a drug. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? It's like people just want that quick fix against the high real quick because it feels good at the moment.

Speaker 2 But then something like a lot of times you see people regret it.

Speaker 3 You feel miserable after what it got. All I see on the internet is black men downing black women every day.
In our comments,

Speaker 3 it's way more men. I would assume when I started this journey that it would be women hating on women.
Every bad negative comment about me is mainly from a man. I rarely see a woman comment negative.

Speaker 3 And I didn't know men were so caddy like that and so quick to want to put a black woman down.

Speaker 2 Like, she's trash.

Speaker 3 She's this. She's that.
She's like the most horrible things you can think of. And I'm like, who raised y'all?

Speaker 3 Because I come from a generation of my dad and how I was taught, like, I never see my dad talk down on a woman like that.

Speaker 3 Even if he can't stand this motherfucker, he's not going to sit in my face and pillow talk about another woman or bring her down.

Speaker 3 He probably did it behind in his own room like this bitch, you know, but it was never that. And I feel like black women, all I see on the internet is how white women are better.

Speaker 3 American, non-American women are better. This and that are better, better, better.
And it's like, have your preference. but don't bring us down while you're doing it.

Speaker 3 If you want to be with a woman that's not American or not white, do that. But stop referencing it to a black woman.

Speaker 3 Because when black women get with white men, they're not talking about black men are trash. They're just loving and living their life with this white man, period.

Speaker 3 And it's like, you don't have to sit here and down the other race because you don't want to fuck with them. You don't have to do that.

Speaker 3 At the end of the day, if you want to mess with a white woman and an Asian woman and this woman, go do that and leave us out of the conversation, period, point blank and i think that that's what the women are frustrated about and if we have an opinion on this we're aggressive see she has too much of opinion that's why they don't like you that's because you talk too much you're loud okay

Speaker 1 i remember maybe like a year ago i was like i said to my husband i was like i want to give you head tonight like it's the first time like we've never done this before and i want you to teach me like you're teaching a master class like step by step and it was so crazy because in the end i was like i don't do any of those things in my routine.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 1 like, how long has it been that I've been doing things a little

Speaker 2 bit with it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it works, you get to the same end function. But, like, if he retaught me and guided me, because his body's changed, you know, his sensations has changed, his taste has changed.

Speaker 1 Like, what turns him on has changed.

Speaker 3 And that could be sexy too. Like, that's a turn on, like, telling me what to do, when to do it.
That's a turn on. Yeah, that's

Speaker 2 open to it.

Speaker 3 Well, if you're open for whoever whoever likes that but still that's good and like you said i think a lot of people the ego is involved so you're like i don't want to ask those questions because i feel like i should know what i'm doing or i already know what i'm doing but it's like no and i think that even works for a new partner like teach me what you like because everyone is different and it goes against what most people want in a partner in the beginning Most people, which I tell people all the time, stop wishing for genies and mind readers.

Speaker 1 I want someone who just knows what I like. I want somebody who just understands me.
I want somebody who just intuitively knows how I'm feeling. Sometimes you're not going to know how you feel.

Speaker 1 So having somebody who makes assumptions when you haven't figured things out is not necessarily the best formula for growth.

Speaker 1 And maybe they can guess it right a few of the times, but things are going to change.

Speaker 1 So you want somebody who's humble and asks questions and is curious and is open and is down to explore, down to challenge their own humanity, down to say no, like who was clear about their boundaries and could revisit them later.

Speaker 1 There's been many things in my relationship that my partner has turned down, or I have turned down, that we have circled back on months later.

Speaker 3 Let's say you're in a relationship and your girl gets a lot of requests from just random men or like people, and they're like, Hey, you're beautiful. Let me send you a cash app.

Speaker 3 Let me pay for your nails. Let me cash app you.
Instagram, oh, here's my cash app.

Speaker 3 Is that foul?

Speaker 2 Oh, run that, homie.

Speaker 2 I need 20% of that, baby. How much he sent you 100? I need a dub.
He sent you 500. Okay, that's going to cost you 100.
Run that to me.

Speaker 2 So if you feel comfortable accepting money from guys, give me some, and then we good with it. So I can feel comfortable.

Speaker 3 So I'm going to say this.

Speaker 2 I was in a relationship. I'm good with that.
We're making money. I'm good with that.

Speaker 3 We making change. So listen, I was.

Speaker 2 You don't go past that. I'm good.

Speaker 3 So this is, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 so i was in a relationship one time and i remember i was at south beverly grill sitting at the bar and there was a like a guy sitting next to me right yeah and i'm on the phone my dude

Speaker 3 and he's like hey telling the the bartender because i'm at the bar he's like hey i want to pay for her meal so he overheard that he's like what like he wants to pay for your meal and i was like yeah i guess and i'm like no no no you don't have to do that And the dude was pissed because he was like, I would never, I didn't accept it.

Speaker 3 I was on the phone with him, but I was like, I would never. He's like, if you accepted that, that would be so disrespectful to our relationship because a man doesn't just stop at buying you a meal.

Speaker 3 Then he's going to ask your number, this and that. And now it looks like I'm not taking care of you as a man and I'm not doing my job.
Like, I'll pay for this whole meal right now, send you the money.

Speaker 3 You know, you don't have to like work for nothing or need nothing. So why would you accept that? So like, what is your thoughts on that?

Speaker 3 Like, if your girl was at a bar and a random man was like, oh, let me pay for her meal right there. That's cool with you, too.
Or

Speaker 3 you're good with that. Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, look, look, like, this is my thing. Okay.
Like,

Speaker 2 let a trick trick. Hello.

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? But if you're going to go past that, the line crossed where you

Speaker 2 now

Speaker 2 is like, listen, you offered to pay for my meal. I accepted it.
That don't give you.

Speaker 2 the open door to have a conversation with you. I appreciate you, bro.
But I have a man.

Speaker 2 So I thank you. Yeah.
Now I got to go.

Speaker 3 Now, is it the same for if you're at a bar and the man sends you a drink? Can she drink that drink?

Speaker 3 Oh, hey, he sent you a drink from across the bar.

Speaker 2 Here you go. I'm not really into that because I don't know what's in that drink.
I need to see the

Speaker 2 port. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if he, you know, put the

Speaker 2 wop. in it.
You know what I'm saying? I'm not a fan of drinks being sent to me. Like if I didn't see him pour

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Unless I know the person.
Like, if somebody I don't know, they're sending you a drink. Come on, bro.
That's like, you're not even, you playing. Like, come on.

Speaker 2 You playing around with me. No, no, no.
You might do some foul shit. No, I'm not doing that.
That's not, that's not cool. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta, like, be aware of your surroundings.

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? You gotta be smart out here. Like, dude, want to buy you a drink? Okay, good luck.
All right, I got a dude. I got a, I got a girl.

Speaker 2 The girl, like, I got girls offer me drinks. Like, all right, cool.
Good luck. Hey, Toast.
Hey, what's your name?

Speaker 2 All right, yeah, that's cool. I got a girl, but you know, I appreciate it.
I know, you know, whatever.

Speaker 2 All right, I'm over here. Now I'm going to move, though.
I'm going to move around. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to sit in the same spot either.
Right. If they're doing that.

Speaker 2 Nah, but like, it's hard for somebody to do that for me. That's got to be in a restaurant.
Like, if we're in another spot, like,

Speaker 2 you know, it's hard. Like, you ain't just buying me.

Speaker 2 Oh, like, most of the people who buy me drinks is fans.

Speaker 3 So, right now, Paul is going viral because he said,

Speaker 3 and I quote, that men need to cheat on their women to find out if they really love them.

Speaker 8 They need to cheat, like, as in, because cheat means deceive, right? So, you need to go outside.

Speaker 8 Like, there's open relationship where your girl is very much aware you're going to have other women, right? But why cheat?

Speaker 8 Why not just say, right now we're still dating, but I'm going to explore other women? That to me sounds like manipulation.

Speaker 2 It is sound like manipulation, to be honest. But like, how, like, say a man in my position, say, like,

Speaker 2 I meet a girl, I know her, she knows who I am, she understands my background, and all of this. How do I find out if she truly loves me for me?

Speaker 8 But how do you find out if you truly love her by cheating on her? What is that?

Speaker 2 You know what? That was the only thing I could come up with. And I know there's more things, but cheating, people, it's such a a broad

Speaker 2 line, a thin line into cheating, too, because people automatically think sex. No.
Right. It don't have to be a sexual encounter.

Speaker 2 Like, just, I don't know if it'll be intentional, but it unintentional, like, damn.

Speaker 8 But let me give you some real talk. Only people that love you for you is God, dogs, and your mama.
Like, that's just real talk. You became who you are.
Everyone that's attached to you.

Speaker 8 Like, that's your essence, you know, you know, so you have to, you almost just have to accept that to a certain degree.

Speaker 8 You're not really really going to know who's there for you unless you got into a position where you're really down and out. Let's say you lose it all and then you have no money, no fame.

Speaker 8 That's the only way you're going to know if a person's really about you. But at the same time,

Speaker 8 I mean, you are who you are. Like, everybody's working to attract, like, girls go to the gym to look cute because they want the best of the best.

Speaker 8 So. It's almost like you would have, you're never going to know that.
Just God, dogs, and your mama.

Speaker 2 And you know what else it is?

Speaker 3 Yeah, you have to go through something i think too uh tell a woman the truth and let her truly see who you are right that's how you know if anyone loves you when you can see me for the person that i am

Speaker 3 maybe if i like lose my legs maybe if you lose your money and you broke maybe if you ask her maybe if you call her and say babe i don't got it this month can you help me pay my bills how about that like you know not everything has to be attached to

Speaker 8 i mean if she can't afford it she out of here so you know what's interesting that i hear that often from men who are extremely successful. Is that a concern of yours?

Speaker 8 Like, do you feel like everyone around you just wants to be around you because of who you are? Because you have money, because you have status?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, that's the feeling.

Speaker 8 Does that bother you?

Speaker 2 I think you just grow in it and you just like, damn, you always keep a,

Speaker 2 you know, you just always feel like you're looking over your shoulder. You always, it messes with your trust.
Right.

Speaker 2 You know, and it's like, damn, you might be sitting there one day and just be like, man, you know, I'm ready to be off.

Speaker 8 But you know what, though? I like what you said. You gave a great example.
Be honest and see what she does with your honesty, right?

Speaker 8 Because you got to, for real love, lasting love, if you want to go to the end of time, if that's the position that you're at, you want her to know who you are. You can't act every single day.

Speaker 8 You can act in the beginning. Everybody shows up as an actor for like the first 30, 60 days, but eventually you got to take the wig off.
You got to take the makeup off. It gets real.

Speaker 8 Is that person still going to love you? So what I would say, a person in your position, be vulnerable and see what happens with it.

Speaker 8 I mean, it's going to be a risk, but I think anyone that you can be completely honest with, and if they accept you for who you are, okay, that's step number one.

Speaker 8 Or if they say, you know what, I respect that you need other women, but I'm not about that life. So I'm going to go.
And if I'm available when you come back, so be it. But I'm not tripping.

Speaker 8 I'm not going to be on your list because you paw Pierce. Like, you know what I'm saying? If you like me, that means other men like me.

Speaker 8 So you just better hope while you're playing, I'm available when you're done.

Speaker 3 You know? 100%. And like you said.

Speaker 2 You said, or sorry go ahead go ahead you said be honest what about tell a lie and see how they react why would she know what's the lie though say all right listen she said be honest be vulnerable right but what if you tell a lie so i don't go out and cheat but then i just go and tell her i cheated on her well tell a lie about it and just to see boom how she reacts

Speaker 3 I think I think no okay that could be a test and men do that is the stupidest thing you're creating distrust in your relationship for no reason you are creating tests that don't need to be created.

Speaker 3 Like I said, God will create tests for you in a relationship. Your representative can only stay within the relationship for the first three months.

Speaker 3 After that, your representative and who you're pretending to be and trying to show up as the perfect woman or man is going to go away. And people are going to have to start seeing you for who you are.

Speaker 3 And understand, you might be Paul Pierce, but sometimes for women, being with a celebrity is very difficult. It takes away a lot from them, you know, and who they are as a person.

Speaker 3 And you're at the forefront of the life. And as a woman, that can be difficult.
So there is a lot of tests, especially being with a man of your stature that a woman probably has to face.

Speaker 3 Why are you trying to create distrust in a relationship that you don't need to do?

Speaker 2 No, I'm trying to create trust. No, by lying.
So

Speaker 2 you're being selfish.

Speaker 3 You're creating something for you, but you're causing chaos for the other person. So you're being selfish and you're not reciprocating what you want.
You're, you're, how does she trust you?

Speaker 3 You're a celebrity with money. Women are throwing themselves at you all day.
So you're so worried about creating trust for you that you're taking it away from your relationship. And it's just silly.

Speaker 8 Well, let me jump in. Let me jump in.
Go ahead. I can see you're very passionate and I see both perspectives.
Not to defend him, but to explain him.

Speaker 8 He's, he's, you know, when you are, first of all, you're a part of the 1%. So his life is the 1%.

Speaker 8 You know, when you're a basketball player, women are constantly coming up to you all his life. Like you probably was a basketball player in high school, right?

Speaker 8 So before I go any further, let me ask you this question. How do you, do, do you respect a woman that will be okay with you cheating?

Speaker 2 No, I don't respect a woman that will be okay with me cheating.

Speaker 8 Okay, so okay, so that's so that's the point.

Speaker 8 And that's why I understand why he wants to do the test, because in his mindset, which I appreciate, he wants to see, okay, if I tell her I'm sleeping with other women and she does nothing, I know clearly she wants to be with me because what I can provide.

Speaker 8 But if I tell her and she's out, Like, nah, I mean, I know who you are. I respect who you are, but I respect myself more than I respect who you are.
I got to keep it moving. So you're right.

Speaker 8 It's not a good lie, but he's just trying to weed out all the women because there's so many women who will not give a fuck.

Speaker 3 Well, you're wrong at what you're saying because he's actually trying to say that if you cheat and stay, you love me.

Speaker 2 No, no, no. He didn't say that.

Speaker 3 He just said that on his clip. That's

Speaker 3 what he said.

Speaker 8 Okay, then he's looking up. Right now, he just said he, he just, okay, that's two different answers because you told me if she cheats and she accepts it, you wouldn't respect her.

Speaker 3 He's contradicting himself.

Speaker 8 Okay, so which one is so which one is the truth is truth in the dark

Speaker 8 because you got just because now i got now i gotta go back and defend her because that's two different answers so what is the honest truth would you respect a woman if you cheated and she stayed with you or would you respect her more if she left you

Speaker 2 oh i love that no that's a good question no i want i don't this

Speaker 2 Would I respect her?

Speaker 8 Okay, so you cheat on her, you tell her,

Speaker 8 and she's like, you know what? Don't let it happen again and forgives you easily. Or you cheat on her, you tell her, and she's like, I'm out.
Like, that was not our agreement.

Speaker 8 I already told you what I was on, and she leaves. Which one?

Speaker 2 I'd rather be out.

Speaker 8 You'd rather her be out?

Speaker 2 Yeah, because now, let me, let me,

Speaker 2 it's how she go out, though. If she go out the door.

Speaker 2 It's a certain way you got to go out the door. How you got to go out the door? None of that is crazy.
You know what I mean? How you go out the door, brother? You got to be tears.

Speaker 2 You got to be mad and sad. You can't be sad.
Well, she has to cry.

Speaker 3 So what happened to your clip that's going viral today on Hollywood Unlock All the Blocks where you said, in order to see if a woman loves you, you have to cheat on her.

Speaker 3 And if she stays, she loves you. So where is that coming in with this whole scenario? Because it doesn't really make sense now.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 it's going to be a breakup and a get back.

Speaker 3 Okay. Okay.
So

Speaker 3 you want to make a woman struggle for love, basically.

Speaker 2 I mean, how else is a woman going to go through it?

Speaker 8 Well, you know,

Speaker 3 Cam Newton, let me make sure I do not misquote him. He said that he needs the list of his girl's partners that she slept with, period.
The names.

Speaker 3 And he said he needs the names because he wants to know who got one up on him. And he doesn't want to walk into the

Speaker 2 place with his girl.

Speaker 3 And he's like, yeah, she bad. She this.

Speaker 3 You want some juice, babe.

Speaker 3 He said that is the juice, babe, line and everything. And he was like, I don't want to be in front of a man who I know, like you had that.
And now I'm Kikiing with a man. And you was with my girl.

Speaker 3 And he was like, it's just about me having that transparency and knowing so I could move accordingly. And then his girl came out and was just like,

Speaker 3 I'm so glad I gave him my whole list. I feel relieved.
You know, she tweeted that or put it somewhere.

Speaker 3 So yeah, that was his thing. And he was like, and there's a lot of people that are like, all right, cool.

Speaker 2 I could work with that.

Speaker 3 And he said, and then if it's someone like that was my teammate, you know, like that was someone I see every day. Like, I'm not, I'm not, I might not be able to deal with that.

Speaker 3 He said, but if it's someone cool,

Speaker 3 cool, you know, but yeah, he said, I need that list.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, I get it. You know, and that's, it's,

Speaker 2 for me, it's a double-edged sword because it's like, damn, do I really want to know? Or do I like, like, I get it. I get it.
Like, I completely get it. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 I was in a situation to where I was talking to this girl. I was dating this girl, right?

Speaker 2 And, you know, we went out a couple times. And then

Speaker 2 it was like, I remember

Speaker 2 we had dinner. We sat down and she was like, yeah, my ex is whoopty woop.

Speaker 2 And I was just like, what?

Speaker 2 Like, I currently kick it with him. Yeah.
Like, from time to time. Like, this number, like we just kicked it, like

Speaker 2 why wouldn't you say nothing at the beginning? Yeah. Like you know that I

Speaker 2 kick it with a dude. Yeah.
Like so I get it. You know what I'm saying? So like for me, I was like, I'm not talking to you.
Yeah. Yeah.
No more.

Speaker 2 You know, I'm good on that because I don't move like that. Like if it's a dude I'm kicking it with and I know you his ex, I'm not moving like that.
Yeah, facts.

Speaker 2 You know, so like I get where Cam is coming from with that because those type of situations can come about and i'm not mad at that you know because like i've been in situations or with girls that i was committed to to where i asked like who else you know

Speaker 2 and you could tell me the truth or you could lie whatever i'm an ah ass you know what i'm saying but it's gonna show anyway eventually but like not my somebody i kick it with like you should have the type of like

Speaker 2 You know, like you should be with somebody and be like, like, you shouldn't even want to talk to me if you know that.

Speaker 2 Exactly. that's weird that's on her

Speaker 3 talking to me like i'm not the get back dude yeah you trying to get back on some stuff but if we trying to get serious like that's not gonna work that's not gonna work and that's true i feel like the whole list or whatever the names are to me i'm like not against it but i also feel like It's for me more of a thing of like respect.

Speaker 3 Like, look, I'm not going to have my man in front of someone, shake a hand, boo up with someone that I know I used to mess with. I'm going to tell him like, yo, we had a situation going on.

Speaker 3 I'm just letting you know. Like, that's more of the thing.
Like, I'll give a list if it's needed.

Speaker 3 But I think that the bigger thing is like, I'm not going to let my man feel like he's out of control and like not respected or like someone feels like they got a one-up.

Speaker 3 I never want anyone to feel like they got a one-up on my man because that's a reflection of me. I'm a reflection of him.
Like, I don't want that feeling. And I don't want that for me.

Speaker 3 Like, I don't want to be out with my man. It's a girl, like, yeah, girl, that's my, like, I'm going to feel crazy.
And if I'm keykeying with you and I'm cool, like, that makes me uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 And I would never want my man to feel that same way.

Speaker 2 So, you're just going to tell him right off the gate. Like,

Speaker 3 these niggas, like, I will, like, if this is a little bit more,

Speaker 2 it's probably crazy.

Speaker 3 It's not.

Speaker 2 The disrespect

Speaker 2 out of control. Here, I'm going to send you, I'm going to facts you these because I don't want you to say,

Speaker 2 No, actually, my list is not crazy.

Speaker 3 Thank you.

Speaker 2 Her list is crazy. No, it's not.

Speaker 3 And I honestly haven't, no, my list is small. Like, I can count my list on my hands.
Like, I don't have a big list. And I know who I've slept with.

Speaker 3 And for me, like I said, it's more of a respect thing to where if I'm like, yeah, if my man is kiking with someone, like, first of all, if I have a man and I know I mess with his friend or someone he kicks it with, that's not my man.

Speaker 3 I'm not. We're not fucking around, like, to begin with, unless I just did not know.

Speaker 3 And once I find out, I'm telling you, like, oh, look, this is the situation because I don't want someone else to say it. Like, that's weird.

Speaker 2 This is the one thing I would love to ask Cam.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 I would love to ask Cam if he gave her his list. Or was that required?

Speaker 3 I don't think that was required.

Speaker 2 Would that be a thing? I don't think that's a thing.

Speaker 2 Like, like,

Speaker 2 you know, he's a pretty famous dude.

Speaker 2 And, you know, it's a possibility he's been with some famous women, or it's a possibility he could have been with, like, some of the girls he's dated or been like in a situation like his girl's friends.

Speaker 2 Yeah, one of her friends. I wonder if he gave the list too.

Speaker 2 So I don't know, Cam. It goes both ways, too.
Did you give your list up, or is it just required from her? I'm just saying, like, damn, I ain't ever.

Speaker 2 I'm sure. I wonder, like, damn.

Speaker 3 I mean, I don't think that it was. Like, me personally, I'll be honest.
If I'm with a man, I don't want to know his list. But what I want to know is, like, don't have me looking stupid.

Speaker 2 But I want to tell you this about a man.

Speaker 2 A man don't even know his list. Don't even know his list.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 A man don't even know his list.

Speaker 2 Barely remember his name. Lord,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 2 Hold on, let me go through the phone. Like, what?

Speaker 3 Like, I used to like, uh, a man don't know his list.

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