Nightcap Hour 2: Lamont Roach Jr. joins NIGHTCAP + Chip Kelly was MESSING UP play calls + Justin Fields SPEAKS on GETTING BENCHED + D-Wade LEBRON vs MJ

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Speaker 17 We got a very special guest joining us, Ocho.

Speaker 17 We got Lamont Rose Jr. joining us.

Speaker 17 Made the jump up to 140 from 135.

Speaker 17 Lamont, how you doing, bro?

Speaker 34 I'm doing good, man. What's up?

Speaker 17 I'm doing good. Ocho, go ahead, take it away.
What's up, baby? What'd they do? What?

Speaker 34 What's up, man? I thought you supposed to come down to camp and and spa.

Speaker 17 Huh?

Speaker 17 Huh? I ain't hearing you what you said. I thought you're supposed to come down to camp and spa.
Hey, Lamont, boy, I got like 350 jobs right now. Boy's football season, man.
Oh, he's copping these.

Speaker 17 Nah, nah, nah.

Speaker 17 Joe, I want to see.

Speaker 17 Hey, what's up, bro?

Speaker 17 Hey, talk to me, baby. How training came training camp been so far?

Speaker 34 Man, training camp been good, man.

Speaker 34 It's always a lot better when I don't got to cut that much weight.

Speaker 17 So I'm good.

Speaker 17 Yeah, so you feel a lot more comfortable being able to fight at 140 as opposed to having to cut?

Speaker 34 Yeah, naturally. I think any fighter would,

Speaker 34 you know, more than likely feel a little bit more comfortable

Speaker 34 because that shit drains you.

Speaker 17 I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 17 What do you walk? Lamar, what do you walk around at?

Speaker 34 I walk around at like 150. Like, you know,

Speaker 17 that ain't got me 10 pounds.

Speaker 17 And that's, I think that was the advantage that Floyd had. Floyd is not a naturally big man.

Speaker 17 Floyd is cutting three pounds, five pounds to make it 147 so everybody else walking around 165 trying to kill go down to 147 floyd like man i took two days and i'm good let's go no for sure so what do you expect the biggest difference between tank and and uh uh uh uh isaac uh pit bull

Speaker 34 uh it'll definitely be obviously the um just the style the pressure the pressure style that's about it

Speaker 17 listen i'm i would i was just getting ready to ask you the same thing obviously going in the training camp i don't want to know your game plan because there's no reason to disclose that on the show.

Speaker 17 But understanding that he is a pressure fighter, what adjustments are you going to have to make to your game?

Speaker 17 Obviously, knowing that styles make fights and you have the style, regardless of him being a pressure fighter or not,

Speaker 17 you obviously going to have to be in your bicycle a little bit and fight off your back foot. Do you feel being able to do that?

Speaker 17 Who I got to do that for? Say hello. Hey, hell, you're going to stay your ground? Oh, for sure.

Speaker 34 I'm going to mix it up. I mean, I ain't done.

Speaker 17 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 34 I ain't gonna do as much moving as I think I am.

Speaker 17 Okay, oh, talk to me, talk to me. Nice, boy.

Speaker 17 He walk into something. Hey, you pressure.
Hey, okay.

Speaker 34 Yeah. Nah, for sure.
He's gonna be, I mean, he's gonna be right there. So it's like,

Speaker 34 I'm gonna be in shape.

Speaker 17 So I'm gonna be able to punch all night.

Speaker 17 Okay, see, the one thing I wanted to ask, too, obviously with Pitbull, obviously, he's a pressure fighter, but he also had a goddamn high-ass guard and always throwing them goddamn looping ass hooks.

Speaker 17 So you got to always be at home. That body, break.
That guard. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 17 I'm so excited, but hey, hold on, hold on. Hey, can I get a ticket to the fight? Yeah, you gonna come?

Speaker 17 Yeah,

Speaker 17 oh, Joe, huh? What?

Speaker 17 Can I go to the fight?

Speaker 17 Oh, Joe. Did you just say just tell Joe in football season?

Speaker 17 Damn, man. Hey, boy, man.
You don't, but I'm, man, I've been waiting on this so long, bro. I've been waiting on this so long.
And obviously, I don't mean to

Speaker 17 count the eggs or the chicken before they hatch. I don't even know what the goddamn saying.

Speaker 17 But,

Speaker 17 no, I don't want to ask that because I shouldn't say that. Because I wanted to know what your plan was going to be once you win this fight.
I'm going to talk shit for you. Obviously, you.

Speaker 34 There we go.

Speaker 17 Yeah, you want to keep it professional.

Speaker 17 You don't have to say that. But when you win this fight, because I know what's going to happen, Styles wins fights.

Speaker 17 You are the better, pure boxer.

Speaker 17 If you need to move, you can move. If you don't want to move, you can sit in the pocket.
You can exchange. You're very smart.
We saw you with how you were able to fight against. Hey.

Speaker 17 so what are your plans after this fight i know you're not supposed to look ahead just just just give me a tidbit what's next after

Speaker 34 not not overlooking pit bull but uh right we're all due respect to him well yeah we're all due respect to him uh after we win that we're gonna be the intern uh world champion at 140.

Speaker 34 so that's gonna put us in line for the wbc world title um

Speaker 17 And

Speaker 17 that,

Speaker 34 the guy who has that belt, really, he just popped dirty for a drug test.

Speaker 17 Oh, no.

Speaker 34 He just popped dirty for a drug test, and he has a fight schedule. So who knows if he gets stripped or not? Either way, he's supposed to fight in January.
So that's cool. Lines me up for somewhere,

Speaker 17 because I'm going to tell you right now,

Speaker 34 if the Shakur fight is unavailable,

Speaker 34 if it's unavailable for us to do after he fights T.O.,

Speaker 34 we pressing the issue on the WBC mandating that

Speaker 34 me and the champion fight for sure.

Speaker 17 Okay. Are you looking to circle back and fight Tank? If that's something that's on your radar,

Speaker 17 are you moving ahead?

Speaker 34 Nah, I've been moved past that.

Speaker 34 Who knows what he's doing with his career, what he got going on?

Speaker 34 But my career is never going to be based on one fighter. Never.

Speaker 34 I got bigger and better things to do.

Speaker 17 Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely.
You know, there was a lot made about you banks being the rehydration clause. Do you have a rehydration clause

Speaker 17 in this contract? Hell I ain't boxing is boxing.

Speaker 34 People have been losing weight forever. What you need a rehydration clause for? If you can make the weight, you can make the weight.

Speaker 17 Oh, hey,

Speaker 17 hey, hold on. Since you don't have no rehydration clause, then so how about this?

Speaker 17 After you beat Pit Bull Cruise, right? How about I give you a tune-up fight before your next one?

Speaker 17 I like the tune-up.

Speaker 34 I like that. As long as you can put them butts in the seat,

Speaker 17 we're going to do it. I can feel it.

Speaker 17 Hey, he's going to put the butts in the seat. Hey, I don't want to stadium quick, boy.

Speaker 17 Hey, oh, he got 22 kids. He got 22 kids, Lamar.
So we got 22.

Speaker 17 Hey, hey, but these hands different, boy, you hear me? My shit registered, boy.

Speaker 34 Ocho.

Speaker 17 Ocho.

Speaker 17 I done heard it all before.

Speaker 17 What?

Speaker 17 I don't even know that song.

Speaker 34 I done heard it all before.

Speaker 17 Hey, bro, I won't hurt you, man. And this is, boy, I definitely heard that too.
We have talked, but I'm telling you, boy. Go ahead, Joe.

Speaker 34 Let me see.

Speaker 17 Hey, hey, hey, Roach, tell me something, bro. You got any fight night rituals that do's and don'ts that you don't mind sharing?

Speaker 34 Fight night rituals, do's and don'ts. Fighting night rituals.

Speaker 17 Superstitions. Superstitions.

Speaker 34 Superstition, man.

Speaker 34 Nah, not really.

Speaker 17 You know, they say y'all ain't supposed to have sex during camp or before. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 17 Is it something you eat?

Speaker 34 I think we talked about that last time we was on Nightcop. Look, scientifically,

Speaker 34 my testosterone levels are higher yeah scientifically my sports doctor told me beyond four weeks is excessive said four weeks four weeks and under you know you might you should save it be cool after that four weeks it's just going it's gonna build up but it ain't it ain't going higher or it ain't it's it's gonna be at max so you're gonna be cool

Speaker 17 okay i like that i like that all right so how long how long was this training camp for you uh uh lama

Speaker 34 uh so i do eight-week training camp seven weeks uh and then you know five weeks

Speaker 34 so do you do you go off you go to big bear you go to you know mammoth you go to colorado springs i'm in tampa right now so uh tampa's like my my new home man they made they made a home for me over there at the pro box gym like i have my own office and everything like they they showed me they showed me love shout out

Speaker 17 the street i told you man that's why i said you're supposed to come man why you could have hit you could have hit me. I'm right here in Miami.

Speaker 34 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 17 For sure. He ain't trying to do nothing.
He ain't trying to do nothing wrong. Man, I'll make me miss out on some.
Man, I could have. I ain't make you miss out on nothing.

Speaker 17 I'm way over here on the west coast. I'll make you miss out.
No, but you got me working like seven days a week. I could have went to camp.

Speaker 17 Damn.

Speaker 34 Oh, man.

Speaker 17 What made you decide to take up boxing? How long have you been boxing? You've been a boxer your whole sport. I mean, did you play any other sports, basketball, football, baseball?

Speaker 34 I played basketball, football, baseball, and um, I boxed, but you know, uh, I probably my first love was football, so you know, every

Speaker 34 Lord Youngin thought they was gonna go to the NFL. I was one of them,

Speaker 34 I was one of them till I got to high school and I seen how big they was getting, and I was losing weight before fighting. I'm like,

Speaker 17 what position? What position was that?

Speaker 34 I was playing running back, fullback, and linebacker.

Speaker 17 So, you know, I was linebacker, yeah.

Speaker 34 Oh, yeah, I was out there street, you know, these these turned into something after I was out there striking.

Speaker 17 I was about to strike.

Speaker 17 Little league, little league, you know, phenomen. Yeah.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 17 So you go 140. So are you, would you, after you, like, let's just say for the sake of argument, you get named the WBC interim 140.
Are you going to stay at 140? Are you looking to go to 147?

Speaker 17 Are you going to come back down to 135?

Speaker 34 I'm going to come back down to 135. I'm going to see what's out there at 40, but I definitely want to go back to 35 because I feel like I was robbed of a championship, so I want to be champion at 135.

Speaker 17 Well, you might have to fight the guy that you felt that robbed you of the championship. You might have to fight him again.

Speaker 34 They say he retired. I don't know what's going on with bro.

Speaker 17 I don't know if he made that kind of Floyd Mayweather money. He can just go call it a career.

Speaker 17 Maybe if he'd got that Jake Paul fight, maybe he could have done that. Hey,

Speaker 34 maybe if he would have taken the rematch, he would have got that too, but hey.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 17 You know what?

Speaker 17 I'm not sure when it comes to boxing, if it's an unwritten rule to say names on potential people you would like to fight. And again, I'm not trying to put the cart before the horse.

Speaker 17 Obviously, you have a fight coming up. But is there someone that you would like to fight next? I'm not saying you're calling them out.

Speaker 17 I'm just saying a fight that you'd like to know that you know it can continue and help your legacy and get your career going in the direction you want to based on the kind of people that you do fight and get in the ring with.

Speaker 34 Yeah, I definitely have a preference. I want to fight whoever the WBC champion will be

Speaker 34 at 140.

Speaker 34 Then,

Speaker 34 uh, Shakur, because I think it's the best fight in boxing, I think that'll be the best fight in our weight class to make.

Speaker 34 Uh, and I think that that'll be uh, you know, a super fan-friendly fight. And everybody wants to see that fight because they've been calling for it ever since I fought

Speaker 34 my last fight.

Speaker 34 And then, third, uh,

Speaker 34 I'd like to fight Gary Antoine Russell. I don't know if y'all know who that is.

Speaker 17 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 34 Yeah, he's a WBA champion at 140.

Speaker 17 So are you trying to unify the 140 or 135?

Speaker 34 Whichever comes first.

Speaker 17 Okay. I like it.

Speaker 17 When you go to camp and you're looking for sparring partners, are you trying to find partners that will resemble the fighter that you're going to actually fight?

Speaker 17 What are you looking for in a sparring partner?

Speaker 34 No, my dad handles all that. And he definitely looks for guys that resemble um, guys that are going to be, yeah, that resembles, and and uh, guys who are actually like

Speaker 34 you know, going to be challenging as well, too. Like, uh, my spawn partners for this camp, a few of my spawn partners labored, they was tough,

Speaker 34 they was tough, they was big, they could take a shot, you know, they was uh rugged, gritty, you know, and

Speaker 34 they just so happened to be Mexican.

Speaker 17 Anytime you want to press a fighter, you always got to get somebody Mexican. They're coming forward no matter what.

Speaker 17 Hey, Rose, did you, your dad, the one got you in the boxing, bro?

Speaker 34 Basically, yeah, he took me to the gym. Well, he took my cousin to the gym, and it was for him, but he just asked me if it's like,

Speaker 34 you want to get in there?

Speaker 34 It was a rap. Yeah.
It was a rap since then.

Speaker 17 That's dope. And you've been hooked ever since.

Speaker 34 Oh, for sure. I ain't missing a day.

Speaker 17 Who are some of the fighters that you like, damn?

Speaker 17 Obviously, Floyd, but there any fighters outside of that that you looked at, like, well, damn, I kind of like, I kind of like his style, I kind of like what they've done.

Speaker 17 Some of the fighters that that's impressed you

Speaker 34 a lot of I'm a boxing fan, so a lot of fighters impress me. Um, old fighters, new fighters.
I'm going to say the fighters today that really impressed me are

Speaker 34 in a way, um, Ben Rodriguez.

Speaker 17 Damn, nice boy. David Black

Speaker 17 putting people to sleep.

Speaker 34 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 17 Yes, yes.

Speaker 34 Who else?

Speaker 34 I like Stephen Fulton, too. That's my homie, though.

Speaker 34 Yeah, that's my homie. I like him.

Speaker 34 A lot of people,

Speaker 34 he's on his way to punching his ticket to the Hall of Fame. If people don't really know, it's going for his third world title in another weight class.

Speaker 17 Wow.

Speaker 34 He's doing that.

Speaker 17 Did you watch boxing as a kid?

Speaker 17 Because the fights, I'm way older than you, Lamont, but I remember fights used to come on regular TV. You know, I could watch Sweet P.
Whitaker. I could watch Ja Vez.

Speaker 17 I could watch all these fighters because

Speaker 17 they came on Saturday. You could watch them.
So a lot of these fighters that became great, you actually could see them fight before pay-per-view. I mean, only the really, really big fights.

Speaker 17 But when they were coming up, you could see them on regular television.

Speaker 34 Yeah, I think that's the difference nowadays in today's sport, like in boxing today. Like, there's not a lot of exposure now like it was back then.

Speaker 34 And that's why, I think that's why it's not as hype or as you know, anticipated as the fights back then.

Speaker 34 And that's why the fights aren't so big because they, they, those fights have been getting built up ever since, like you said, as soon as they turn pro, you know, they got eyes on them, they got eyes on everybody can watch them, they know who they are, they see them coming up, and next thing you know, all right, these two guys are fighting, or he's the champion, he's the champion, or they're about to fight.

Speaker 34 So, um,

Speaker 34 yeah, I used to watch fights when I was young. You know, um, my favorite fighters, uh, when I was younger, were Roy Jones, Prince Nassim, Ahmed, and um,

Speaker 17 man, Prince, be sure about that ring, man. Hey, hey, hey, and Joe, he just named one of my favorite fighters.

Speaker 17 Obviously, you know, from I love boxing, but obviously, those that have the entertaining aspect and bring that to the to the ring for me, the drunken master,

Speaker 17 Emmanuel Augustus, Emmanuel Augustus, man. Hey, Lamont, I wish if I was a boxer, I would have looked exactly like that.

Speaker 17 I'm just being honest. I mean, it's no different than the way I played the game of football.
I got to entertain at the same time, you know, respect my craft and have fun.

Speaker 17 But, man, Emmanuel Augustus and Prince Nassim,

Speaker 17 Ben Whitaker does it a little bit.

Speaker 17 He does it a little bit. Oh, yeah.
Oh, man. Ben Whitaker be doing.
He'd be doing it. Hey, he'd be doing all

Speaker 17 that.

Speaker 34 He be doing it.

Speaker 17 Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 17 I just, God damn, i love the sweet science man

Speaker 17 well man good luck hey good luck on saturday uh do what you do do what you normally do what you know how to do uh everybody at nightcap wishing you all the best hey what once once you win that title come back here and show us the belt nah for sure i got you you got to do me one favor what's up when they talk to you in the ring right

Speaker 17 and you give your speech after winning And they say who you want to fight next, make sure you call me out.

Speaker 34 Say no more.

Speaker 17 Say no more. Be there.

Speaker 34 So you can jump in the ring after, you know, make it theatrical and shit.

Speaker 17 Okay, okay. And then

Speaker 17 we could do a face-off and then I'm going to mush you, okay? I'm going to mushroom.

Speaker 34 No, no, I don't like that one right there.

Speaker 17 Like that one right there. Hey, hit it with a bone.
Catch it with one of the bolos, Lamont.

Speaker 34 No, I got you, man.

Speaker 17 Hey, man. Congratulations.
All the success. Continued success.
We'll see you down the road, bro.

Speaker 34 I appreciate y'all, man.

Speaker 17 Y'all take care.

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Speaker 17 New reports have come out saying Chip Kelly was messing up his own play calls and calling plays not installed.

Speaker 17 According to Tom Pellicero, there are all kinds of different stories that just have to defunction of the Raiders' offense.

Speaker 17 There were times I was told that Chip Kelly was repeating botching the plays called. So Geno Smith was going to the line of scripture saying, this doesn't look right and they're not having a run play.

Speaker 17 Reports also indicate it was Tom Brady's ideal to hire Chip Kelly as OC and possibly potential successor to head coach Pete Carroll.

Speaker 17 Oh,

Speaker 17 well, we know normally great players don't make the best head coaches and

Speaker 17 talent evaluators.

Speaker 17 Now,

Speaker 17 I don't know if this is true. That's what's being reported.
So, we just take this with a grain of salt. But, oh, Joe, if this is true,

Speaker 17 and that's bad, boy. Also, that is reported that Brady didn't want Shadur.

Speaker 17 Like I said, those are reports. That's not Ocho and I and Joe, and that's not us.

Speaker 17 Chat, you guys have read the reports also.

Speaker 17 But

Speaker 17 to hire a first-year coordinator and him be terminated before the season, that is a terrible look. Yes, sir.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 17 And I think the thing is for the Raiders, and this is probably a lot that has to do with why the Raiders have so much dysfunction, because they don't have and they haven't had stability in a very long time.

Speaker 17 Right.

Speaker 17 They don't have a coach longer than a couple of years. They don't have a GM longer than a couple of years.
They can't find a quarterback.

Speaker 17 They keep thinking that they're going to find that everybody is not meant to be Mahomes or Lamar or Josh Allen or Joe Burrow.

Speaker 17 Sometimes you're going to have to win with, say, a lesser, maybe not a tier one quarterback, but maybe he might need to be in that tier two and then you get better places around him ojo but this notion right that everybody from the beginning of time has always had a number one quarterback is just not true no but this is this is the thing if you don't have a quarterback that's not like brady or not like mahomes or or your joe burrows or your lamars then your drafting

Speaker 17 prowess has to be that much better and being able to build around them so you have to hit on the on your draft picks and the supporting cast you know around your quarterback in order to have have success if you don't catch one of the big fish like a damah homes or a josh allen yes that comes down to that's that's on the organization as well but it's it's very difficult it's very difficult to to to hit not only on draft picks but to make sure they're going to stick you know for for 10 years or more unless you unless you get a quarterback but

Speaker 17 it's up in the air it's just hard for me to see ocho a guy as great as Tom Brady being able to pick another Tom Brady.

Speaker 17 That's tough that boy.

Speaker 17 Now, I'm not saying that if a free agent becomes available like John did with Peyton, but to draft one, it's hard for great, most of the great evaluators.

Speaker 17 They weren't look at the guys that's picking those NBA players. Look at RC Buford.
Look at the guy that's

Speaker 17 in OKC.

Speaker 17 Preston. Yeah, Sam Preston.
Ain't playing liquor ball.

Speaker 17 The only basket they had was Easter basket. Ain't had nothing about no basketball, no basketball basket.

Speaker 17 So it's just hard. And look, I get it.
A guy that's well accomplished is Brady, but it's going to be hard for him to hit on players because he was so great.

Speaker 17 Yeah, but you don't think he think it because what came easy to him, Ocho, is hard to everybody else.

Speaker 17 And he's like, man, I could do that in my sleep. Yeah, you Tom Brady.

Speaker 17 That's right, yes. Don't you think he might have success simply because he knows what it's supposed to look like and hit the eye test? Everyone has to know.

Speaker 17 No? I don't. I think it's even harder.

Speaker 17 Because I had a conversation with Magic. And Magic said it's hard.
He said because it was easy for me. And I'm like, why can't you do that? And people say, well, because he's not Magic Johnson.

Speaker 17 Think about when you're great,

Speaker 17 you basically think everybody else should be great because, and I'm not saying it's easy because there were some things that came easy, but you worked at it. Right.

Speaker 17 So now, things that came like second nature to you, it's like,

Speaker 17 damn, son. How many times we got to go over this?

Speaker 17 That's why you ain't got no patience to coach.

Speaker 17 I think the only thing that could help Tom, he sued up for one year to show him how it's done.

Speaker 17 Nah.

Speaker 17 Nah, because you got to have weapons too, you got to have some weapons.

Speaker 17 You just can't have no good quarterback and you ain't got no weapons. Well, they traded their best receiver.
Well, I mean,

Speaker 17 the best player on the office side of football is Brock Bowers.

Speaker 17 But they traded their best receiver, which was Jacoby Myers. Well, if you trade your best receiver, what are you telling the team about Joe?

Speaker 17 Hey,

Speaker 17 that's basically a reset button.

Speaker 17 That's basically a reset button. Hey, let's say, how about this, Joe? And Unc, hypothetically speaking,

Speaker 17 you know, fuck effort. Brady say, you know what? I'm leaving the booth.

Speaker 17 I'm coming back to play quarterback for the Raiders. In the offseason, Mark Davis goes and get number three from the Cowboys, brings him on over there

Speaker 17 to Las Vegas.

Speaker 17 Oh, Joe. I'm just throwing that out there.
Let me ask you a question. Talk to me.

Speaker 17 You tell me where a guy can make, let's see, September, october november december january and when they have the super bowl work six months out of the year yeah and make 37 and a half million dollars now when you leave in your job

Speaker 17 where you make 37 and a half million dollars to work five months and two weeks

Speaker 17 it ain't happening i'm asking you i'm asking ocho would you do that he know it ain't is there a job

Speaker 17 That you make you that you would leave your job you make you work five months and two weeks when you have the Super Bowl,

Speaker 17 $37.5 million.

Speaker 17 Would you do that?

Speaker 17 Nope.

Speaker 17 Hold on. Hey, Joe.
Hey, I know a job you can make 37 million in a week, though. I mean, I don't think you want to do it because the chances are

Speaker 17 you don't. And I know a place they'll send you to turn big rocks into little rocks.

Speaker 17 Hey, Ojo. And why are you always trying to give pick away to somebody, man? Why we just can't keep him in Dallas? Why are you trying to give him away?

Speaker 17 I want what's best for pickings, man, Joe.

Speaker 17 Listen, what's best is he looks so good.

Speaker 17 I know what he looks like, Joe. Why do you want to see him out there to Oakland somewhere and the man getting double and triple teeny? Now he ain't getting no case.
Now he acting like AJ.

Speaker 17 I just want the man to get his money, Joe. And I know how your owner play, Joe.
I know how your owner play, Joe. No disrespect to the Cowboys, you know.

Speaker 17 I just know how he play, you know. And

Speaker 17 his agent, you know, brother Muguletta, he ain't going for that man we ain't playing them games like he played with micah man i come on man come on joe he done did it he done did with everybody joe all of a sudden all of a sudden now cutting the pickings everything's supposed to be so much more different so anybody got time for that joe you never know we gotta see how things play out on Joe

Speaker 17 we done seen him play out with everybody else what's supposed to make him any different

Speaker 17 It played out with, it damn near played out with Dak. What the hell you think going to make it different with Pick?

Speaker 17 That's supposed to be a different thing.

Speaker 17 you gotta fight

Speaker 17 to like Joe. You gotta fight tooth and nail for your money, Joe.

Speaker 17 Every time, yeah, I'm saying, I'm saying he's gonna fight, oh Joe, but you gotta be patient, have some patience.

Speaker 17 You know, they say patience is a virtue, but sometimes patience had you looking like a fool.

Speaker 17 How you looking like a fool? Because I remember back in elementary, uh, and Joe, I was patient.

Speaker 17 This little girl, a little girl named Tammy, you know, yeah, my P coach told me, just be patient with her.

Speaker 17 I was patient,

Speaker 17 Joe, the whole summer went along, Joe, and she ain't picked me.

Speaker 17 Yeah, she picked some little ugly, some little ugly dude, man, named Corey.

Speaker 17 And he brought loafers to school with the penny in the front.

Speaker 17 Yeah, they call him a penny loafer. Come on, man.
How you gonna be? He got on loafers with a penny in the front. Yeah, like how you don't see the potential in who I was gonna be.

Speaker 17 Look how I turned out. Easy.

Speaker 17 Because you came to school barefooted. Yeah, now I wonder where she had now.
Ah, Tammy.

Speaker 17 Don't hate on Tammy. Tammy with an I would have why.

Speaker 17 Huh?

Speaker 17 Don't hate on Tammy. Yeah,

Speaker 17 she probably married Corey. And

Speaker 17 they probably happy ever after.

Speaker 17 I guarantee. Well, that's fine because I'm happy now, too.

Speaker 17 Right. Okay.

Speaker 17 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 17 And Corey probably ain't got to do all the stuff that you do now.

Speaker 17 Shoot.

Speaker 17 That's fine. My baby.
Nasty rascal.

Speaker 17 I ain't ain't nasty. I'm just doing what God.
God put me on earth to do. God ain't do that.
Don't put that on God. Don't do that, Ocho.

Speaker 17 Don't do that. Don't do that.
God put me here to be a blessing, and I'm blessing in all ways I can.

Speaker 17 Ocho,

Speaker 17 all I'm saying, Ocho, is that you can't eat off everybody's plate. Well, I don't eat it.
I don't eat it. It's like, whoa, Joe, Joe, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 17 Every house you go to, you don't eat at everybody's house, right, Joe?

Speaker 17 Right. I don't go to everybody's house.
You eat off everybody's plate.

Speaker 17 I don't even leave my house. I don't even go nowhere.
That's a you know that's a figure of speech, right? I know it was a figure of speech, but I'm giving you a figure of my speech, too.

Speaker 17 But, oh Joe, see, them, them, them things, what you be getting, oh, I already know you got to do all that. Nah, not really.
Nah,

Speaker 17 not really. Yeah.

Speaker 17 Hey, listen. Hey,

Speaker 17 hey, you got to remember this me. I ain't really got to do nothing, honestly.
Yeah, you do. No, no, hold on.
Yeah, you do. Hold on.
Let's not,

Speaker 17 let's not be fooled. This me.
Okay, go ahead. I ain't got to do nothing.
Now,

Speaker 17 I might choose to bless you in that manner if I feel like it, but I ain't got to do nothing. Ocho, there was once upon a time, let me tell you why.
Talk to me.

Speaker 17 Because they got people out there that got just as much money as Ocho. They got names just as big as Ocho.
Because what Ocho want, another wheel. Hey.
Hold on. But it's something ain't nobody.
And

Speaker 17 you don't built your house on that. Hold on, but

Speaker 17 all that you just said is fine and dandy right yeah the word out is it's something that nobody else got but me

Speaker 17 they say ocho got the best got the best jobs in town that what the word is on the screen

Speaker 17 come on

Speaker 17 that's what i'm sure that's what's out there hey

Speaker 17 hey i got something nobody else got

Speaker 17 Nobody. It's only me.

Speaker 17 Joe, everybody know there's this one that was in college. Everybody, the word done got out.
Nah.

Speaker 17 The word done got out. Yeah, they did.

Speaker 17 Hey, Ocho. Say it in college.
You mean uh-oh.

Speaker 17 Oh, there's an ocho. That one.
Some brown gold. Check it on you.

Speaker 17 Girl.

Speaker 17 Yeah. Have your toes curl.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 17 Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they say.
That's what they say. Yeah.
Yeah, my

Speaker 17 say calling joe

Speaker 17 hey yeah

Speaker 17 hey

Speaker 17 somebody he have you the pillow

Speaker 17 yeah okay yeah

Speaker 17 that'll put the word out on it

Speaker 17 hey

Speaker 17 hey but y'all funny tonight boy

Speaker 17 Hey, y'all funny tonight. Hey, hey, but you know, and you know what's crazy about all that, Ocho?

Speaker 17 Man, you do all that sober because you don't even know. That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 17 Y'all rookies, man. That's what they call them.
They call him Jaw Baby. Y'all, y'all, y'all rookies.

Speaker 17 Y'all, y'all, rookies. I can't even believe you, Ocho.
As a matter of fact,

Speaker 17 we can't even.

Speaker 17 Hey, no way. Hey, Joe.
I told Ocho, I'm gonna come down there. I'm gonna come down there on the vacation.

Speaker 17 I'm bringing my own cups, my own plates, my own spoons.

Speaker 17 You ain't even got to do that.

Speaker 17 I ain't got no cups and plates in here anyway. But ain't nothing in here.
Okay. Ain't nothing.
When my kids come, they come here and I send them to the grocery store. Get all the snacks you need.

Speaker 17 Get your cups and your paper plates. Make sure you get red solo cups.
That's it. Don't leave no dishes in this sink.
Whatever you use, make sure you throw it away when you leave.

Speaker 17 I forget you said you was a minimalist. I'm a minimalist, joe a minimalist hey

Speaker 17 hey joe guess what it is hey hey

Speaker 17 on tour you can find him at jaws

Speaker 17 who who that's that's a hammer nah

Speaker 17 i ain't mean to put that out there oh joe hey joe i didn't mean to put that out there because you got he got a couple of them nah hey my hey nah i'm i'm listening i i i got

Speaker 17 I don't want to, I see, I'm taking that, so I can't, I can't, I can't.

Speaker 17 I can't, I don't wanna. You will always be taken.

Speaker 17 Bobby, you always will be taken. Nah, nah.
Because that one, that one that we talked about in college, did she not always have a boyfriend, Joe?

Speaker 17 Always had one. Nah.

Speaker 17 Why?

Speaker 17 I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about.
Just a few.

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Speaker 17 Fields admitted the decision to remove him from the starting role wasn't one he was anticipating. Fields made it clear he's expected to be starting quarterback in the NFL again in the future.

Speaker 17 The Jets signed Fields to a two-year, $40 million contract with $30 million of the money coming guaranteed, leaving the door open for the two sides to part ways after the season.

Speaker 17 Now that he's been demoted to a backup role, it appears likely that Fields would not be the quarterback in 2026. Damn.
Hello. Ojo.

Speaker 17 What do you mean? You weren't anticipating this. Bro, you got four or five games in which you throw for less than a hundred yards.
You got a couple of games you throw for less than 60.

Speaker 17 What do you mean?

Speaker 17 Yeah, I mean, listen, obviously, when he says,

Speaker 17 what do you mean? Maybe he's surprised because what do I have to work with? There's a reason why I haven't been successful as a quarterback.

Speaker 17 Hell, before I got here, there were no other quarterbacks that were successful, you know, before

Speaker 17 I got here. So maybe I'm not the problem.

Speaker 17 But they're going to say you weren't that successful in the other places that you were either. Remember,

Speaker 17 it was you that allowed them to get the number one pick. Oh, hey, I mean, you listen, you're right.
I'm with you when you're right, but

Speaker 17 they haven't found that quarterback yet. I don't know what it is.
I don't know if it's a Jets organization. I don't know if they did something bad to somebody in the past.

Speaker 17 They're just having bad luck all the way around.

Speaker 17 And I really thought, really,

Speaker 17 Joe, I really thought this was Justin Phil's time. This was

Speaker 17 the time. I can't lie.
I agree. This is his team.
He doesn't have to worry about anybody. No quarterbacks.
You don't have to look over his shoulder.

Speaker 17 He can play with a free mind and just go out there and do what he needs to do. I'm sure Aaron Glenn said, you know, you are a guy.

Speaker 17 They gave him the keys and things just, I don't know. I don't know what went wrong, Joe.
Hey, listen, kind of like we were just talking about. I know they got Gary Wilson over there, but man,

Speaker 17 he needs weapons. Okay, Ocho, like, we're putting these quarterbacks in these positions, thinking they just supposed to come out here and light it up.

Speaker 17 Damn, if you ain't got no elite receivers, how you supposed to do all that? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 17 I would like to know. All things being equal, Joe, Ocho,

Speaker 17 Justin Fields, your starting quarterback. You a free agent.
Are you going to the Jets?

Speaker 17 If I'm a wide receiver,

Speaker 17 shoot no you're not you're looking at the quarterback situation oh right you can go hold on i can go to the rams or i can go to the jets i can go to kansas i can go no ochre you're not i'm going to chicago i'm not going to no i'm just not no and nobody no receiver because we know the receivers want the ball and that's how you you're not going there If I got a choice, now if I get traded there, I get drafted there, they remove that from me.

Speaker 17 But if I got a choice in free agency, there, there

Speaker 17 now

Speaker 17 No,

Speaker 17 I'm not

Speaker 17 just not

Speaker 17 Though

Speaker 17 Sam Darnold Geno Baker rebuilt their careers elsewhere so yeah, let's let's see but

Speaker 17 Even been a few places. I don't know.
Yeah, Chicago, Pittsburgh, not a jet.

Speaker 17 But

Speaker 17 here's the thing is that all those guys are different because most of those guys are really

Speaker 17 drop-back quarterbacks, can throw the ball from the pocket. That's really not, that's not Phil's strength.
So he's going to have to go somewhere, Ocho.

Speaker 17 A great place for him, but I don't, they don't, look, they got Purdy and they got

Speaker 17 Mac Jones now would be San Francisco. I mean, hold on.

Speaker 17 What would be the difference in Trey Lance and Justin Phillips? Because now you're putting the the break back in the same situation. They've already had a quarterback already like that.

Speaker 17 The difference between Trey Lance, they had expectations. You're the third pick in the draft.
You're on your third. This will be your fourth team.
You don't have the same level of expectations.

Speaker 17 And guess what? He's not going to be a starter. You're getting the same quarterback, though.
It's still the same thing.

Speaker 17 You don't think Justin Fields is a better throw at the football than Trey Lance?

Speaker 17 Because here's the thing with Trey Lance, Ocho. He basically played 17 games.
Yes.

Speaker 17 In his collegiate career. Because remember, he had that great season and then COVID happened.

Speaker 17 So,

Speaker 17 but he's going to have to go somewhere.

Speaker 17 And if you go, if they're having an influx of talent at the wide receiver in the tight end position,

Speaker 17 they're not looking for Justin Fields, Ocho.

Speaker 17 Oh, man.

Speaker 17 I hate that for young bull, honestly, man.

Speaker 17 I hate that. Just that has to do something to your confidence.

Speaker 17 After things didn't work out in Chicago, hell, you go to goddamn Pittsburgh, you're playing well, then they bench you once Russell Wilson gets healthy.

Speaker 17 You leave there, you come to New York, things you put all this work in in the offseason. Finally, I got my turn at my turn, I got my team, I got my opportunity, and things don't work out.
I just,

Speaker 17 he's, I'm not even him, and I feel bad, you know, so I can understand what it's probably doing for him mentally. That has to be crushing, man.

Speaker 17 What about Baltimore? Can he go back up Lamar?

Speaker 17 yeah yeah i like that that's a good one

Speaker 17 that's a good one i like it because i i don't think it's a bad idea to kind of have to sit and watch sometimes you know what i mean and i'm sure his opportunity will come again but uh

Speaker 17 i wouldn't mind seeing him sitting behind lamar and uh just kind of watching you never know what what may happen

Speaker 17 i don't know damn man that's boy this nfl crazy boy but you go you go to a bad team, man, how you losing all your confidence thinking there's something really wrong with you when there's really nothing wrong with you and just your surroundings.

Speaker 17 Now, as much as you want to adapt to your surroundings, when you're in a losing environment, there's not much you can do unless you're special.

Speaker 17 You got to be special to go to an environment like New York and change

Speaker 17 everything.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 17 No, man. And he's not that special.
He's not that. I mean, Aaron Rodgers couldn't change it.
And Aaron Rodgers had Garrett Wilson and Devontae Adams. And he couldn't change it with Brees Hall.

Speaker 17 Look at Devontae

Speaker 17 at the Rams.

Speaker 17 Cutting.

Speaker 17 Balling.

Speaker 17 Garrett Wilson was offensive rookie of the year with,

Speaker 17 was it Sam Darnall or was it, what's the guy's name?

Speaker 17 Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson.
Zach Wilson. Maybe one of those guys.

Speaker 17 He has not looked the same since his rookie year.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 17 And I know he can play

Speaker 17 because, based on what I saw his rookie season, and they were supposed to be bringing in better quarterbacks than what he had as a rookie. Right.

Speaker 17 It's crazy.

Speaker 17 It's, I don't know. Like I said, he might need to go somewhere.

Speaker 17 He might need to just go somewhere and sit for a year or so.

Speaker 17 and wait for his opportunity to come back, oh,

Speaker 17 because you can't keep oh Joe, you can't keep going places, you get a starting job in five or six weeks into the season. They bent

Speaker 17 you, yeah, you

Speaker 17 lose all your confidence. Yep, not only do you lose all confidence, then you're hesitant and don't you can't play freely.

Speaker 17 If you cannot play the game of football with a free mind and play fast, you're gonna, oh man, it just that's not gonna be a good thing.

Speaker 17 I agree,

Speaker 17 kind of similar kind of similar to basketball red react yeah you know what i mean like if you're out there thinking if you're out there thinking overthinking thinking too much the game gonna be tough for you you have to go out there and read or react and make plays bro you'd be one step behind

Speaker 17 steph curry has reportedly parted ways with Under Armour after they failed to sign Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 17 According to reports, one sore point for Curry was he attempted last year to recruit Caitlin Clark to join his brand.

Speaker 17 He and the company pursued the Phenom, but Under Armor offer failed, offer, excuse me, trail the total value of Nike's pitch.

Speaker 17 Curry and his advisors became frustrated by what they viewed was an underinvestment in the brand. Meanwhile, the division sales weren't meeting the company's or Curry's expectation.

Speaker 17 Joe?

Speaker 17 Yeah, that's kind of... Well, that's what I thought

Speaker 17 when I first seen that he's

Speaker 17 getting away from

Speaker 17 Under armor i was thinking that the sales probably wasn't what he uh predicted but it is man it's it's it's funny seeing him in any other any other shoe i'm gonna be honest with y'all i've been seeing him in nike jordans i'm like it just don't

Speaker 17 it just don't look we're gonna look right after a while because i'm gonna be having them on all right what you got there we get yeah yeah i yeah yeah i know they're gonna write him a big check i know they're gonna write him a big check so uh

Speaker 17 i'm sure he's probably enjoying this moment though ocho being a free yeah he gets some cool stuff i saw him in some uh uh some tinker hat fields he getting old stuff i mean he getting some some really really really cool stuff he had travis gods on tonight the mocha yeah

Speaker 17 he's been man the man been wearing under armor for what 13 years yeah it's been that long oh

Speaker 17 man over a decade ocho he couldn't be caught in nothing else you know what i mean so yeah he's definitely enjoying this moment but yeah it is a little weird to see him in anything else but i'm curious to see who he's who he's gonna uh who he's gonna ultimately uh you know go with to kind of

Speaker 17 you know start to support the curry brand. But man, if he'd have got Caitlin,

Speaker 17 what's that you got?

Speaker 17 Steph Curve, he got them Steph Curry

Speaker 17 Edition. Yeah, did he sign? Did he sign up? Yep,

Speaker 17 hey,

Speaker 17 them thing gonna be worth something one day, boy.

Speaker 17 Hey, I might put these on because I think they're my size. I'll about putting these on and go drop 20.

Speaker 17 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 17 It's just, look,

Speaker 17 it's tough. It's tough to beat Nike, Adidas,

Speaker 17 that have been at this for so long. Yeah.

Speaker 17 See,

Speaker 17 I mean, had Jordan never went to Nike,

Speaker 17 you might have had a chance. Yeah.

Speaker 17 But ain't no shoe company going to beat.

Speaker 17 Not when it comes to the, not when it comes to athletic.

Speaker 17 They just got too much. They got too much for our research and development.
Right. I mean, you remember they came, they had the shops, and they had the Air Maxes, and

Speaker 17 they just on the cutting edge, and their apparel

Speaker 17 is just like, and I get it, but I just don't think even with Curry,

Speaker 17 they were going to never be able to get a foothold because they had UCLA, they had to get out of that contract, they had a couple of others that had to get out of those contracts. They just

Speaker 17 Curry, just go ahead and go to the highest bidder.

Speaker 17 Nike is going to give you some good, good, solid money. Yeah.
And ride it out for the next four or five years or however long you want to play.

Speaker 17 You're right. Because I wonder what Under Arm are trying to do.
If they lose Steph Curry, I'm sure he was a biggest. Hey, yeah, for sure.
Biggest draw.

Speaker 17 Because

Speaker 17 he had on Inescu's. They sold out.
Yeah.

Speaker 17 What's Inescu? Sabrina Nescu, the point guard for the Liberty. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay. Sold out.

Speaker 17 so he can, his influence, yeah,

Speaker 17 yeah, his influence, his influence is going to be huge wherever he goes. So, I mean, this is a cool moment.

Speaker 17 Now you can go on and give him about 15 million, go on for giving someone 15, 20 million a year for a hundred million dollar deal for the next five years.

Speaker 17 Give him a look, give him all three logos. That's kind of low.

Speaker 17 That's kind of low, huh?

Speaker 17 Nike got some, they got some hittles over here, though.

Speaker 17 Oh,

Speaker 17 you ain't got no job, man. That's lowball.
Okay. You just keep giving us free advertising.
Okay.

Speaker 17 We talk about Steph Curry. Now you talk about 100 million.
Okay. They got them.

Speaker 17 Gilbert Arenas made $100 million back then

Speaker 17 when he was playing. Ocho.

Speaker 17 He don't have a shoe deal. So you're going to keep wearing people's stuff, giving them free promotion?

Speaker 17 Well, it ain't really free promotion because everything you're wearing, obviously, you know, it's selling out and he's not getting a dime from it.

Speaker 17 What you think?

Speaker 17 I just told you. I know, I just, I mean,

Speaker 17 I'm gonna tell you what I think, Joe. Go ahead, that's lowballing.
I think, I think he's gonna

Speaker 17 by February, he's gonna bend them, found a brand that he's gonna sign with, and probably probably like all-star weekend, he's probably gonna debut, debut.

Speaker 17 It's coming out, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 17 I like it, yeah. I mean, it's it's it's like I mean, to

Speaker 17 at that point, you're not really trying, you're just trying to get market share.

Speaker 17 You know, you're trying to get 2%

Speaker 17 because you're never going to put a big enough dent into, you know, Nike or Dido's or something like that.

Speaker 17 And then, really, right? He was really the only Underma. At least, if you look at Puma, Puma got a bunch, got, you know, they got what they got, Lamello Ball, and I think they got a

Speaker 17 Halliburton. They got Scoop.
They got a nice little rock. They got the list.
But

Speaker 17 It ain't the same, though. I guarantee you, Nike can come up with something nice for the next four or five years.
Their creative team could have a new shoe, a new model

Speaker 17 that would be really, really dope. That can rival some of the other players that are with Nike.

Speaker 17 They can get creative with it. They got the resources.

Speaker 17 I think Adidas can too. Adidas, Adidas.
Yeah, Adidas got some nice things.

Speaker 17 I like Ant-Man's shoes. Ant-Man James Harden.
Yeah,

Speaker 17 maybe New Balance. You got some guys over there? No.
Yeah, no, no, no. No,

Speaker 17 not New Battle. No, not New Balance basketball shoes.
Absolutely not.

Speaker 17 Adidas, yes.

Speaker 17 You don't like the Kawhi Leonards

Speaker 17 where they got Kawhi. They got what you call them too.
They got Cooper Flag.

Speaker 17 Nah.

Speaker 17 Hey, Joe, I've been working on my shot, Joe.

Speaker 17 You've been working on your shot? You've got my shot right here at home, Joe. Hey, I'm waiting.
I'm waiting on that.

Speaker 17 Who is that? Teddy? Thanos? Which one is that? Thanos.

Speaker 17 Hey, Thanos looked like a bear cub.

Speaker 17 Hey, you got to cut his hair. Uncle's hair getting big.

Speaker 17 Yeah. Say it's getting cold out here.

Speaker 17 Dwayne Wade provided a take on Michael Jordan, LeBron James GOAT debate. D.
Wade said, I'm going to say Michael Jordan is the greatest player I've ever watched.

Speaker 17 He's the greatest player I've ever watched. LeBron James is the greatest player I've ever seen.
You feeling me? I never saw Michael Jordan. I watched Michael Jordan.

Speaker 17 I saw, I've seen LeBron James up close and in person. I played against.
I played with. I personally have not seen a greater basketball player, but I've watched a great basketball player.

Speaker 17 Joe, what's your take?

Speaker 17 I totally understand what he's saying.

Speaker 17 Oh, Joe, I grew up watching Michael Jordan. That's my GOAT.

Speaker 17 He made the game sexy. He made it to where, as a kid, bro, growing up in the 90s, I wanted to be like Mike.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 17 But what D-Wade is saying,

Speaker 17 that's probably who D-Wade grew up watching as well. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 17 I think it's me. Yeah, but he he played with LeBron James, who obviously right now, every time he scores a bucket, it goes down in history.
You know what I mean? Like, he is,

Speaker 17 he's going to be the GOAT when it comes to all these records, man. So, I understand what he's saying.
You know, getting a chance to play with LeBron, I played with LeBron in 06 in the Olympics.

Speaker 17 Hell of a player, bro. Hell of a player.
I mean, he has no weakness.

Speaker 17 You was on the 04 team, Joe?

Speaker 17 Nah, I was on the 06, the Redeemed team. We ain't getting no gold neither, okay, Ocho.
Oh, at the World Championship?

Speaker 17 Man, Mello, D-Wade, Braun, they owe me, bro. They owe me.

Speaker 17 Boy, we went down there.

Speaker 17 Argentina got y'all.

Speaker 17 Argentine. Argentine.

Speaker 17 They were good like that?

Speaker 17 Yeah, because they've been playing together since they were five.

Speaker 17 Yeah, they did, but they had this big dude in the middle, Ocho. I'm talking about we had the white highway and everything.

Speaker 17 I'm talking about Apex, Dwight.

Speaker 17 Man, we couldn't do.

Speaker 17 but we couldn't do nothing with this big boy. They had down.
One thing them big could do is they're going to be able to pass the ball and they got tremendous footwork.

Speaker 17 Hey, I'm telling you, this was big body. Big body.
He wasn't shooting no threes or nothing in the paint. He was a bruiser.
Oh, like Shaq?

Speaker 17 Yeah, but he was a lot shorter. Damn.
But he was wide, he was wide-body, man. I'm talking about we couldn't stop him.

Speaker 17 Damn.

Speaker 17 Did you see LeBron last night? That performance that

Speaker 17 Luca, AR, and Braun?

Speaker 17 Hey, they were

Speaker 17 easy. An easy 25-6-6.

Speaker 17 No stress on the box.

Speaker 17 Okay, Ocho. Lakers got two of the bad white boys I ain't seen.

Speaker 17 Austin Reeves?

Speaker 17 No, I'm just kidding. Austin Reeves and Luca Dashes.
And I think the beauty about all this is that Braun just kind of plays the Swiss Army knife. He brings to the game what's needed.

Speaker 17 He don't go out there trying to score no 30-40. He going gonna be cool right at around like about 22 a game when it all comes down 22 7 7 you know he

Speaker 17 he can do what he wants you know what i mean he can feel the game out and he can assess like okay boom i ain't really got to do a lot of scoring right now i could i could just facilitate these boys hot as fist grease out here man the way look the way luca came i said that boy finna go for 60 tonight the first quarter joe Oh my God.

Speaker 17 I definitely thought he was going to go for 60. He had 32 at the half.
He cooled out a lot in the second half. He ended up only having 11 points, but he was going crazy.

Speaker 17 That first quarter, I'm like, damn.

Speaker 17 Yeah, I was too.

Speaker 17 Probably the most beautiful thing about it is when he got going, you can see AR and Brun, like, you know, they kind of just let him roll. You know what I mean? Like, they weren't out there.

Speaker 17 Okay, let my turn. They let that man go until he just kind of...
you know, started to cool off a little bit.

Speaker 17 And that's what I appreciate the most because when you get a guy that's hot, man, you got to feed him, see how far can he maintain this. And Luca was special in that first quarter, bro.

Speaker 17 Man, all right, it's time. Oh, Joe, Joe, go ahead.

Speaker 17 My bad. Ocho, that boy shooting that thing.
Effel is three, four feet behind the three. He's nice, man.
Like, he had like three in a row, four in a row. Like, bop, bop, bop.

Speaker 17 Hey, well, you know, we can, we can make this. I mean, for me, we can make it a better, better experience, right? It's one thing to talk about it, but man, let's go sit court side of the game, man.

Speaker 17 And what game? Shoot, we can go to a Lincoln game. We got a Hawks game.

Speaker 17 We got a better chance at a Hawks game than a Lakin game, boy. You're going to play an arm and leg.

Speaker 17 You don't know nobody over there getting free tickets

Speaker 17 for the Lakers? No.

Speaker 17 No, not no free one. Damn.

Speaker 17 Not on the court. Hey, we get some free one for Atlanta?

Speaker 17 Yeah, yeah, we better get, we better have, you better have your feet on the wood. Oh, Joe, hey, Joe.
Hey, hey, Joey,

Speaker 17 I'm coming down there, boy.

Speaker 17 They'll bring you a glizzy and everything. You like it? I need you up, man.
The Coke with no ice. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Man, they bring you a glizzy and everything.
You be good.

Speaker 17 I can do that.

Speaker 17 I don't know what y'all got against hot dogs, man. Y'all acting like y'all.

Speaker 17 Huh? I just don't eat them. I know, but I know, but y'all be laughing.
I ate them. Hey, Ocho.
As a kid, we used to do the birthday parties up to the hamburger. Hamburgers and hot dogs.
Yeah.

Speaker 17 Yeah. I used to get down, but I ain't really, you know what I mean? I I ain't really no hot dog.
I know you, you, you, listen, you, you know, you live in the palace now, so I understand.

Speaker 17 You know, you, you, that's far-fetched from you.

Speaker 17 I'm just keeping, I'm just keeping the 100.

Speaker 17 I got you, I feel you, I feel you. I love me some hot dogs.

Speaker 18 Have at it.

Speaker 17 It's time to play a fade, presented by prize picks.

Speaker 17 All right, here we go. Here's the style six

Speaker 17 picks flex ahead of tomorrow's game. Jameer Gibbs, more than 0.5 rushing or receiving touchdowns, Ocho.
Will he have one touchdown tomorrow? Yes. Okay.
And whatever.

Speaker 17 He acted a plum fool last week, last weekend, or Sunday. Okay.

Speaker 17 So you think he's going to the thing is, do you think he's going to do it again? That's my problem. It's like they be having him.

Speaker 17 He's turning around and big. Oh, he's going to score.

Speaker 17 All right, this for you, Joe. Dak Prescott, more than 263 passing yards.

Speaker 17 Who he plays? Kansas City?

Speaker 17 Yeah, I mean, he's gonna eat that up. Boy, can go for about three something.
All right, you ain't playing. Joe says he's gonna go for three something.
I'm gonna ride that.

Speaker 17 Patrick Mahomes, more than 267.5.

Speaker 17 Trey Smith is out. The all-pro the all-pro right guard.
Woof.

Speaker 17 We finna have a field with them, boy.

Speaker 17 We ain't playing. We ain't playing.
I'm just letting y'all know.

Speaker 17 You going on the 268, Joe?

Speaker 17 Yeah, I think Mahomes is going to be on the 268.

Speaker 17 I think Mahomes is going to be on the 268. I think it's going to be a high-scoring game.
I think he's going to go over. Let's go.
We're going over. All right, OJo.

Speaker 17 This is George Pickett's more than a rush or receiving touchdown. He'll have at least one touchdown tomorrow.
Absolutely. He might have two.

Speaker 17 Shit.

Speaker 17 Kareem Hunt, a rushing or receiving touchdown. Will he have a rushing or receiving touchdown?

Speaker 17 He's a short yardage. He's the goal line guy.
Yeah. Pacheco, not back, right?

Speaker 17 He's had a touchdown in four straight games, guys.

Speaker 17 I'm going, yes.

Speaker 17 Lamar Jackson. Okay, Ocho, here it is.
Lamar Jackson,

Speaker 17 at least 29 rush yards. Oh, absolutely.
And I can say that respectfully, you know, 29 rush yards on any goddamn body. I know, I know it's my Bengals.

Speaker 17 He's going to have 29 rush yards, but we know who's going to come out with the victory. That's all that does matter.
Yeah, the Ravens. All right.
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Speaker 17 All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time time for q and a

Speaker 17 lavar force said hey ocho you're not alone i suck toads and eat groceries hey

Speaker 17 hey hey thanksgiving fella and my fellow night cappers ravens flock

Speaker 17 Hey, Adam, Adam Toad, that's where it's at, boy. I'm telling you, especially, hey, man, get you some ice, boy.
Try this, man. Grind up some ice, man.

Speaker 17 Get some ice ice cubes and use the ice, you know, with the toad. A great combination, boy.
You hear me? Thank me later, boy.

Speaker 17 Desmond Newton said, What's up, Uncle Nocho? I'm at the hospital watching y'all, waiting for my first child to be born. I appreciate y'all killing the time while my nerves are up.

Speaker 17 Shout out to Sophie Joy, daddy. Excited to meet you.
Yes, Desmond, thank you for watching. Thank you for your support.
Congratulations.

Speaker 17 Mom and baby will be great.

Speaker 17 Come back and let us know.

Speaker 17 Obviously, you know it's going to be a girl. So, because Sophia Joy,

Speaker 17 excited to meet you, too.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 17 Congrats. Congrats.
Bro Mara said, I'm a Seahawk fan, but 12 is on deck. I'm proximally a Browns fan.
So guess what? He'd say he's a Shador fan, basically.

Speaker 17 Yeah. Jason CJ, more popular you are, the more haters you attract.
That is so absolutely true. And I don't know why.

Speaker 17 Because most of the time, you don't even know that person yeah just what you see el prey 90 ocho you got an opportunity to meet ronaldinho yet

Speaker 17 of course i mean um if you you do me a favor go back i've met ronaldinho at barcelona when he was there with eto and and um

Speaker 17 and uh messi um

Speaker 17 like it's it's many pictures with me and ronaldinho i play with ronaldinho here on the pitch if you youtube it uh i had an assist from ronaldinho i mean we was damn near, I didn't know him about 15 years now.

Speaker 17 A bunch of pictures of us online.

Speaker 17 JKDSDDLK, Nightcap is the best show on. Ocho, once a Patriot, always a Patriots.
Go Pats. Yeah, Ocho, once a Patriot, always a Patriot.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 17 Go Pats.

Speaker 17 Caleb in 999.

Speaker 17 99.

Speaker 17 Just learned today Ocho gave Tom Brady his longest pass in that Super Bowl. They never say that about my guy.

Speaker 17 That was me. That was me.
That was me.

Speaker 17 I ain't got no ring, though. I'm going to go ahead and order my funeral suit for you because you keep thinking it's funny not paying Unc his money.
You right.

Speaker 17 What's the funeral suit for?

Speaker 17 Bandos, we got to do something bad to him, ain't it? Hey, man. Nah, nah, nah.

Speaker 17 I told you, Christmas. Hey, watch it, Christmas morning.
Check your account. Boy, you're going to be happy.
But what that boy done, pay paying my money.

Speaker 17 Wow. Kipper Novood Jr., oh Joe, I got Unc's Ravens over your bingos tomorrow night.
And yes, back on here tomorrow night to celebrate. Yeah, Kipper, we got that.
That's easy. That's in the bag.

Speaker 17 Yeah, everybody talking with a whole lot of confidence tonight.

Speaker 17 A whole lot of confidence. Joe, who you got winning, Joe?

Speaker 17 I got the Ravens, Ojo. But, but, but, but, but, but, hold up.
I think I want to see Joe Burrow get out there and look good, look comfortable, bro. I ain't just totally against y'all, but at 3-9,

Speaker 17 the Ravens have been playing playoffs

Speaker 17 already. You heard what Joe said, Ocho? Y'all actually 3-8, but he said 3-9, so he already knows subconsciously what's going to happen.
Don't worry about it. Keep that same energy.

Speaker 17 Jamal the gunslinger. Oh, oh, oh.
I need your help. I'm trying to get a Connie Corso, but my wife is iffy about it.
Help me convince her that getting one is a good idea. Who wear the pants?

Speaker 17 Huh? Huh?

Speaker 17 Sometimes you got to put your foot down. If it's something that you want,

Speaker 17 this is one of those situations where you got to put your foot down. I know they say happy wife, happy life.
I understand that. But what about your happiness? What about how you feel?

Speaker 17 What about doing something you want to do for a change? Don't do that. No.
How much time do you got? Yeah, because that dog is a Connie Course responsibility, bro. They eat a lot.
They poop a lot.

Speaker 17 Why are you trying to, the man say he wants a Connie Course? Are you supposed to support him.

Speaker 17 But I'm trying to explain. He's just telling him real.
Because clearly, he's never had a dog like that. I've had big dogs like that.
Hold on. All dogs got to eat, huh? Small, big, little?

Speaker 17 A lot.

Speaker 17 Them dogs need exercise.

Speaker 17 Yeah. Hey, man.
Hey, get your dog, man. Don't listen to them questioning.

Speaker 17 Does she like dogs in the beginning? You might need to start out small and then work your way up. Get you a medium-sized dog.
Get you a lab or get you something. Get you a Labrador.

Speaker 17 He don't want that. Man, don't want want that man the man say he want a king on a cane corso

Speaker 17 yeah

Speaker 17 the man been online looking at videos and everything he wanted making stuff happy man sometimes you got to do you got to do what's right for you and what you see fit

Speaker 17 if it make you happy you get it

Speaker 17 oh here he goes i'm just saying black accrue white acre ojo You that guy, and Shanna knows it. So don't listen to him.
We love you.

Speaker 17 Yeah, yeah, toes and all, yeah. All y'all in that Jaws club, huh? Okay.

Speaker 17 They run around with these big, uh, big answers, dog. Uh, they run around with these answers, big dog.
They don't even make sense, Wade.

Speaker 17 No.

Speaker 17 Ocho, the Bengals play defense like James Harden, the defensive coordinator.

Speaker 17 Oh, man, come on. Hey, that was a good one.
That was a

Speaker 17 hey ojo what's the chance when they when they when they gonna beat them bingos

Speaker 17 tomorrow okay okay keep that hey listen all y'all keep that same energy man i'm telling you uh you're gonna see me on the field i'm gonna be on the field i'm on the field all game long You're gonna see.

Speaker 17 I saw you on the field where Ray knocked your helmet off. You was on the field sprawled out.

Speaker 17 And you saw me get up, get ready to whoop Ray ass, too.

Speaker 17 Hey, Joe, hey, y'all y'all

Speaker 17 put hands on me, Joe. You hit me?

Speaker 17 I see you. I see you go back to the sideline hollering about you, the guy hit.

Speaker 17 He's talking about a different. I'm talking about when he knocked my helmet off.
You missed that one when he knocked his helmet, slap off his head. Hey, hey, Joe.

Speaker 17 Hey, Joe, he hit me so hard, Joe, my helmet went flying by 10 yards, right?

Speaker 17 Before I even hit the ground, I was trying to get up, boy. Well, you got to see that.
No, he's trying to get it. He wouldn't got the helmet first, though, Joe.

Speaker 17 You know, that's Cardinal rule number one. Anytime you get ready to to fight, you got to put your helmet on.
You got to put your helmet on. Don't get caught slippery without that helmet.

Speaker 17 Sherry Pope, nightcap, your opinion on Kenya Martin and Draymond going back and forth. And Ocho, did K Martin ever send your cigar for that playoff bet? Nah, I'm going to beat Kenyon Martin ass.

Speaker 17 He don't need to be worried about no Draymond Green. He needs to worry about me.

Speaker 17 He's just

Speaker 17 whoever just said that just reminded me. Kenyon Martin owed me some cigars.
Hey, Kenyon, boy, when you see this, boy, you got 24 hours, boy.

Speaker 17 Boy, you got 24 hours, boy. You know what we see? From the time we see it.
Huh? From the time we see it.

Speaker 17 Hey.

Speaker 17 I need them sticks.

Speaker 17 I forgot what cigars we bet.

Speaker 17 The Martins. The Goldens.
Daniel Marshalls? Yeah, Daniel Marshalls. Oh, I need them, boy.
I need them.

Speaker 17 I need them, K-Mart. You know, I love you.
I love you like a brother. I don't want to have to do nothing to you now.

Speaker 17 Look.

Speaker 17 Draymond has done what he's done. Kenyon did what he did.

Speaker 17 What are we talking about?

Speaker 17 Draymond didn't play against Kenyon. Yeah, Kenyon played against guys.
Look,

Speaker 17 the basketball is positionless now. But it's, yeah.

Speaker 17 We're debating things we're going to never be able to prove.

Speaker 17 What I don't get, why nobody questions the fact that Dylan and Stefanski have the same agent, bluffed under CAA? Guess who else? Dan Olofsky.

Speaker 17 someone whose backs him on live first take Chad how would you feel if the guy you're competing has the same agent as your coach I wouldn't care I wouldn't care long as you get me my money hey the money thing is a cool thing but I'm talking about what I'm what it's all about what you do in that field it's all about what you do in that field I don't care who who coaches who and who's whose agent but when we get in between them lines You're not better than me.

Speaker 17 You're not better than me.

Speaker 17 At some point, I mean, either they're going to expose themselves by letting the person play in front of me, knowing I'm better, but when I get my opportunity, I got to show up and show up.

Speaker 17 That's it. It's really that simple.

Speaker 17 828 style back in the day, you used to say, I don't eat nothing, I'll walk away when I'm finished with it. Things have changed now.
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 17 You absolutely right.

Speaker 17 Hey, y'all nervous. Don't worry about it.
Y'all will get there. Y'all will get there.

Speaker 17 Connor with

Speaker 17 AK. Ocho, if you don't want to give that money, I'll send you my cash out.

Speaker 17 Kylie, one, two, three, four. Ocho, you see Chelsea and Barcelona game? Hey,

Speaker 17 that was very good.

Speaker 17 That was a very, very good game. I mean, Barcelona, Barcelona looked like they ain't even got damn belong.
I mean, Kucarella, Kookarella had goddamn Leminia Mo on Lux all goddamn game

Speaker 17 Jenny, April

Speaker 17 1997, my grandma passed last month, one week before my birthday.

Speaker 17 I'm just not able to actually speak on it. She was my best friend.
Man, I miss her in everything I see. Bro, I know it's tough.
It is extremely tough.

Speaker 17 Man, nothing like them grandparents, man. Boy, nothing like them.

Speaker 17 Man.

Speaker 17 Damn. Justin underscore Antonio.
What up, fam? I listen to the podcast podcast every night on the road in my semi at work. Big fan, can you give my daughter, Journey, a happy third birthday?

Speaker 17 Absolutely. Justin, thank you, ma'am.
Thank you for the support. Thank you for when you're driving along those highways and byways, you got nightcap on.
So we can't thank you enough for that.

Speaker 17 Journey, your dad's out there making a living for you guys, making sure everything is copaesthetic at home, roof over your head, clothes on your back, and plenty of food on the table.

Speaker 17 So with Journey, happy third birthday from dad and the nightcap crew. Sheldon Polk, Nightcap, Nightcap, your opinions on Kenya Mark.
We already did that one, Ash.

Speaker 17 Happy Thanksgiving to the big three. Much love.
Thank you for everything you guys do. What's your favorite Thanksgiving memory?

Speaker 17 Watching Detroit Lions get beat. My cousin's coming over after belly full if we're going out there playing football.

Speaker 17 Oh man, I just forgot. Turkey Bowl tomorrow.
Yeah. I'm wondering, Uncle is that rude you think I can go play turkey bowl with somebody tomorrow

Speaker 17 in Baltimore? Sure.

Speaker 17 Hey, that'll be funny as hell.

Speaker 17 The Florida man, what's your prediction on the Iron Bowl?

Speaker 17 Alabama is going to be on upset alert. You think so? Yes, Floyd.

Speaker 17 Ty Simpson, if Ty Simpson played like he played the last three weeks, they'll get beat bad.

Speaker 17 They win this game, they're going to the college football playoffs. If not, they ain't going nowhere.
They go to a bowl, they get a bowl. That'd be their third lost then, huh? Yep.

Speaker 17 Damn.

Speaker 17 Free Stacey B. Why is everything ignoring the Browns? Kicked

Speaker 17 a punt on the 29-yard line versus a field goal with 59 seconds left in the game versus the Raiders. I guess they want to run the score up.

Speaker 17 That's all I got for you.

Speaker 17 And OG, love, love. You guys always make me laugh.
Who you got? Ohio State of Michigan? O-H.

Speaker 17 Who you got, OJo?

Speaker 17 I got Ohio State winning that one. Joe?

Speaker 17 I'm going against the Grand. I'm going again this year.
Oh, Joe? Them two receivers back, Ocho? Because you remember both of those two receivers, the star receivers Ohio State missed last week.

Speaker 17 Jeremiah Smith missed last week? Yep, and the other one. Oh, that's right.
I forgot his leg. He was limping.
Yep.

Speaker 17 Damn.

Speaker 17 I don't even know if he's playing this game.

Speaker 17 Too late. You already picked.
I'm going to go to Ohio State anyway. Kristen, what's your reaction to Marcus Marshall Falk being hired as the head coach of Southern University? Yeah, Southern.

Speaker 17 Hey, congratulations. That is my classmate in the 2011 HOF Hall of Fame induction.
So I'm happy for it.

Speaker 17 I'm, you know, I never would have thought Marshall wanted to coach, but you know, going working with Time, he got the bug and he's off the

Speaker 17 he's from Louisiana.

Speaker 17 Make it work, Marshall. Yeah, that's

Speaker 17 yeah. I sure wish you got the bug.

Speaker 17 Nah, I do.

Speaker 17 Not the bug you got, though. Nah, that's about the bug to go coach.
Here you go.

Speaker 17 We want to thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

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