Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to the cost of living back in 1985; Bun B joins; Unc's old gadgets

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Speaker 4 Looking back at the cost of living 40 years ago in 1985, which one of these items surprises you the most a new house cost 84 300 the average income was 23 600 minimum wage was 335 an hour average rent 432 a month college tuition 4 560 a spanking brand new car was less than 7 700

Speaker 4 milk was 220 a gallon eggs was 85 cents a dozen A loaf of bread cost 68 cents. A movie ticket was $3.55.
And gas cost $1.12 a gallon. Now, listen, one thing I want to say about this.

Speaker 4 I remember these days, huh? 1985. Yeah, I remember.
I was a junior in high school. Yeah.
Hey, listen, I was a freshman in high school.

Speaker 4 Now, when I think about it, they always say history repeats itself. No, that ain't happening.
Wait, listen to me. Stay with me now.

Speaker 4 If you look at some of the thing going on, fashion.

Speaker 4 Politics, some of the thing that's going on in the world, we're going back to the 60s and the 70s in certain areas and aspects in life. If you actually pay attention to certain things,

Speaker 4 now we talk about history repeating itself. At what point will we get back to this? Never.

Speaker 4 You're never going to buy a house for less than $100,000, unless it's a row house, less it's a crack house.

Speaker 4 You ain't getting no new car. You ain't getting no new car for no $7,700, OJo.

Speaker 4 The gas ain't going to ever be $1.12 a gallon. Hey,

Speaker 4 eggs was $85 cents.

Speaker 4 Eggs was $85

Speaker 4 per dozen. Yeah, I was a loaf.
I was 17. I remember it.
Yes. Oh, my goodness.
Yes. Remember, I told you you used to get three loaf of bread for a dollar.
I remember you get three loaves.

Speaker 4 A loaf of bread was 68 cents now, but I remember you can get three loaves of bread for a dollar.

Speaker 4 Yes, I remember this. I was 17.
I remember this now i ain't know nothing about no new house the house we call probably we stayed in probably cost fifteen hundred dollars

Speaker 4 but yeah i remember this the funny thing about it is the price of everything keep going up right everything around is keeping going up uh they're taking jobs away from from people uh using technology chat be chat chat gpt and and ai and all this other stuff uh automated services

Speaker 4 But minimum wage isn't going up the way it should. No, I remember it.
To be able to offset the price of everything going up. So something, something wages are going up.

Speaker 4 Exact wages are going up. Yeah.
Average consumer the hourly is not because it's what 730 an hour. Yeah.
I work for 335 an hour, so I know. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe. But even back then, oh cho, you look at that say, damn, bro, my grandma caught hell.
Even at 85 cents, even at 68 cents for a loaf of bread, it was still hell on the Porter Sharp household.

Speaker 4 and you look at it in the price tonight, like, damn,

Speaker 4 yes, yeah, yes,

Speaker 4 that's crazy. Gallon, gas was $1.12 a gallon, and you weren't going nowhere unless you had $2 to put in my tank,

Speaker 4 so it wasn't no free ride. Hey, come take, no, you got to pay, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I'm, yeah, yeah, I remember that like yesterday. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 New car

Speaker 4 for $70,000?

Speaker 4 Boy, do you know how that $7,000 was? Oh, yeah, back then.

Speaker 4 I can imagine. I can imagine.

Speaker 4 My granny made $197 every two weeks. So she made less than $4,000 a year.
So how the hell you going to pay for a new car? Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 by food.

Speaker 4 Can you imagine if everybody rent was $430 still?

Speaker 4 Do you know how much money that was back then? Yeah, Yeah, I already know. You got to tell me I was there.
What you mean? I was looking.

Speaker 4 You looking at today's money when you're making today's money and you're looking at yesterday's prices. Right, right, right.
Transport your ass back there.

Speaker 4 You know how your grandma, how your mama's pregnant, struggled to pay $430 something. Oh, that was a full load of money.
Yeah, I already know. But just imagine.
Hell,

Speaker 4 Granny made

Speaker 4 $500 a month. So how are you going to pay rent at $432 a month and she made $500?

Speaker 4 And so funny, you notice how they made it work back then?

Speaker 4 They made a way?

Speaker 4 Yeah. No matter what, regardless of what you got.
You ate long shipping. You make pig feet.
You ate coon. You ate squirrel.
You ate rabbit. You ate possum.
Yes. That's how.
You ate trike.

Speaker 4 You ate mild noises. That's how you made it.
You went and caught a mess of fish. Yeah.
And you ate yes. That's how you made it work.

Speaker 4 You wasn't eating no steak, no lamb chop, no lobster, no crab legs no lop no scallops no orange you ain't eating none of that right

Speaker 4 i had never i had never heard of a person eating crab like oh you know them dungeoness crabs them blue crab but like them king crab legs the lobster i ain't never heard nobody eat no lobster

Speaker 4 i heard nobody eat no lobster about can we go get some uh uh when we got in college like a senior And guy would tell me, man, I'm going to take old girl to red lobster. She want lobster.

Speaker 4 But you know, guys, you got that uh, that work study money, you know, you got that work study money, oh, you try to press somebody, you think about eat something, man. Please

Speaker 4 die

Speaker 4 eating salmon, croquette in the can, eating vienna sausages, eating bologna, that tube bologna with the red, with the with the you know, the tube, the long tube of bologna, ocho, not the lobster pie with the slice, you wasn't getting that, right?

Speaker 4 You get that big ass tube, hold on, what you what you know about? I bet you ain't had no beanies and weenies.

Speaker 4 Nah, we didn't eat that. We did have pork and beans, though.
Okay.

Speaker 4 No, yeah, pork and beans and pork and beans. And you cut the hot dogs and cut the hot dogs up in the pork and beans.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 And you get to, we got the, we got the uh the hot dogs, the 50k in a pack, but the hot dogs still had the casing on them. See, they were pink.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm talking about, Ocho.

Speaker 4 You ain't getting no, you ain't getting no, no good, no Hebrew national

Speaker 4 fan style.

Speaker 4 But I'm looking at the price, I'm like, as I look back in this now, Ocho, and I think,

Speaker 4 boy, we were bad off, Ocho. We might have been back worse than I previously thought.
Right.

Speaker 4 Boy, hey, there was some days, that boy.

Speaker 4 Boy,

Speaker 4 them were some days.

Speaker 4 Oh, man. Yeah,

Speaker 4 hey, when life was simple, huh?

Speaker 4 Y'all get ready. It's time for Ocho's favorite segment.
It's time for Spello Cinco. Where you hat? Where you had, Ocho.
Put your hat on. Hey.

Speaker 4 hey

Speaker 4 hey you know

Speaker 4 you know who got mad at me and cut my hat up uh a long time ago that's why it stopped winning man don't put it

Speaker 4 you heard me yeah

Speaker 4 yeah

Speaker 4 okay ocho i'm gonna start y'all hold on let me lock in first let me lock in don't don't there don't rush me

Speaker 4 don't rush me let me let me lock in and focus so i can i can chat This is for y'all. Tonight is for y'all, Chad.
I'm telling you, I want the spelling be a

Speaker 4 1979. Be able to father, give Ocho the strength to lock in and to spell these words.
Help him to focus, understand.

Speaker 4 And as I enunciate these words correctly, just give Ocho the strength and the courage to spell these words with conviction. Yes, sir.
We ask all these things in your name. Amen.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 Let's go, Ocho. Amen.
Amen. Amen.

Speaker 4 Your first word. First word.

Speaker 4 Ubiquitous.

Speaker 4 How you going to find out the gate? How you going to put out the gate? Simultaneously.

Speaker 4 Ubiquitous.

Speaker 4 How you come out the gate with something like that? Okay.

Speaker 4 It's going to get easy.

Speaker 4 Er.

Speaker 4 Okay. Ubiquitous.
Okay, we're starting with that.

Speaker 4 You say it again? Ubiquitous. You ubiquitous.
Now, yes,

Speaker 4 I'm assuming it's UB. Let's start there.

Speaker 4 Ubic, you big.

Speaker 4 Now, Bic Lighter is B-I-C. So I'm going to go U-B-I-C,

Speaker 4 Ubic,

Speaker 4 U-B-I-C-Q,

Speaker 4 T-I-S-T.

Speaker 4 U-B-I-Q, U-I-T-O-U-S. Ubiquitous.
Now you know, now you know I wasn't going to get that. Now, the chance.
I thought you would get that, but I thought that was the chance.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 4 Okay, how about this one, Ocho? This one, and you've heard of this one.

Speaker 4 A demigogue.

Speaker 4 A who? A demigogue.

Speaker 4 Wait, you mean a demigod?

Speaker 4 A demigogue.

Speaker 4 Demigogue. It's a leader exploiting emotions to gain power.
A demigogue.

Speaker 4 Man, are these words even, excuse me, are these words even in the thesaurus? I've never heard that before.

Speaker 4 A demi, say it one more time. I bet you I get it.
Demigogue.

Speaker 4 A demigod.

Speaker 4 A.

Speaker 4 D-E-M-I.

Speaker 4 A demigod.

Speaker 4 G-O-D?

Speaker 4 Where the hell you get an A from? I said demigogue. Oh, you said Demi.
I thought you said a demigod.

Speaker 4 No, but you're wrong. D-E-M-A-G-O-G-U-E, demigog.

Speaker 4 Oh, my goodness, huh? Hey, uh,

Speaker 4 and not only do I not know these words, the chat don't know them either.

Speaker 4 And I hope nobody in the chat is laughing at me because I know y'all not finna say and pretend that y'all know some of the words I'm talking about because I ain't never heard of the last one, and I definitely don't know how to spell the first one we did.

Speaker 4 How about this? Paradigm

Speaker 4 Paradigm. Oh, P-A-R-A-D-I-G-N.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 4 P-A-R-A-D-I-G-M.

Speaker 4 That's what I just said.

Speaker 4 Sounds like you said in. Chat, what y'all.

Speaker 4 Do you see how fast I spelled it? Because I know how to spell it. Don't worry.

Speaker 4 We'll run it back. We'll give you that one.
How about this one? Let's

Speaker 4 go. Stop playing with me.

Speaker 4 Antidote.

Speaker 4 Huh? Antidote.

Speaker 4 Antidote.

Speaker 4 A A A N T I

Speaker 4 antidote. A N A N T I D O T E Antidote.
A N E C

Speaker 4 D O T E antidote. God dog it, man.

Speaker 4 Jesus.

Speaker 4 Elucidate.

Speaker 4 What? To clarify, explain clearly. Elucidate.

Speaker 4 Elucidate. Elucidate.

Speaker 4 To clarify or explain clearly. Elucidate.

Speaker 4 Elusa. So elusive.

Speaker 4 Elusive.

Speaker 4 Elusive is E L. So elusive date would probably be E L as well.

Speaker 4 U

Speaker 4 S

Speaker 4 Elucidate. I D A T E elucidate.

Speaker 4 E L

Speaker 4 U C

Speaker 4 I D

Speaker 4 elucidate. So that's not what I just spelled? No.

Speaker 4 Hey, uh, hey, hey, boy, I'm on a ball.

Speaker 4 This is going to be the easiest one. If you don't get this one, I'm on a bad

Speaker 4 to detest, strongly dislike. I abore you.

Speaker 4 A bore.

Speaker 4 Oh, my goodness. A bore.

Speaker 4 I mean, it could be

Speaker 4 a bore like A-B-O-R-A. I mean, my bad.
A-B-O-A-R, but it could be A-B-O-R-E.

Speaker 4 What word are you going with?

Speaker 4 Or

Speaker 4 a boar, A-B-O-R.

Speaker 4 Which one of the three is it?

Speaker 4 That's, I mean, I didn't go to Harvard. I went to Glenville High School.
That's far as I'm going to. You got to understand, huh? I went to Harvard for one semester.

Speaker 4 Okay, that should be enough to help spell these words. I mean, that's when they saw my application and knew it was fake, and that's when they they got thrown out.

Speaker 4 So what, what are you going with? A bore?

Speaker 4 A bore, A-B-O-R.

Speaker 21 A-B-O-R.

Speaker 4 A-B-H-O-R. A bore.

Speaker 4 Okay, I got it right. No, you didn't.
No, I said the H is silent. No.

Speaker 4 Damn, OJO, you didn't. Who? I got what I was one for four?

Speaker 4 One for five. Well, listen, if I if I played baseball, I'd be a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 4 No, actually, you wouldn't

Speaker 4 that's below the Mendoza line there.

Speaker 4 You got to be at least two

Speaker 4 fifty. I can work with you.
300, you at the ballpark. Okay, Ocho.
This is Dunk on Up NCAA Oops.

Speaker 4 Okay, here we go. Here we go.
Here's something.

Speaker 4 Hey, I got to go back and I got to study my thesaurus or something, man. Because

Speaker 4 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 Hey, chat, I apologize, chat. I'm glad this wasn't a life or death situation because y'all would be planning my funeral.
My goodness, that was abysmal. That was horrible.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was that was

Speaker 4 hey, them some crazy words, though. Okay, here we go.
Dunk on Unk, NCAA hoops,

Speaker 4 riddle edition. Okay,

Speaker 4 He played for the Kentucky Wildcats. He won the 2012 NCAA National Championship, known for his elite defense and shot blocking.
Went number one overall in the Anthony Davis. Well, God, can I finish?

Speaker 4 No, I ain't going to hold you.

Speaker 4 Okay, you got that one. You got that one.
Okay, here we go. Here we go.
He played for the Yukon Huskies, went four for four in the NCAA championship 2013 to 2016. Never lost the NCAA tournament game.

Speaker 4 One of the greatest women's college basketball players ever. Who am I?

Speaker 4 She went four for four. Oh, oh, Stewart, Brianna Stewart.
God damn it. Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 Okay, you two, you two for two. Okay, okay.
You know, you know, your stuff, huh? A little bit. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 4 Coach for the Duke Blue Devils won five NCAA championships 1991, 1992, 2001, 2002. Coach K

Speaker 4 damn.

Speaker 4 Okay, okay, okay. Hey, boy, you on a roll today, huh?

Speaker 4 I'm gonna ask you for the, I'm gonna ask you for the numbers for the lotto after this.

Speaker 4 Okay, here we go.

Speaker 4 Legendary culture, the Tennessee Lady Balls, won eight NCAA. Pat Summit.

Speaker 4 Actually, her middle name is Pat Head Summit. She married the guy's last name was Summit.
Her actual maiden name is Pat Head.

Speaker 4 Well, you trying to. Did you know the story she got beat? She got beat in a tournament game and she was about to give birth to her son.
And they said they wanted to land a plane in Virginia.

Speaker 4 And she said, No, I'm not having my son in Virginia.

Speaker 4 Hey, boy, you're showing off tonight in front of the company, huh?

Speaker 4 Okay, okay. Here we go.
Here we go. Let me put my glasses back on.
He played for the blue duke. He played for the Duke Blue Devils, scored 41 points in the 1992 Elite Eight game versus Kentucky.

Speaker 4 He was perfect from the floor, Christian Leitner. He didn't miss a single shot or a free throw.
He hit the buzzer beater. Yep.

Speaker 4 Remember it like yesterday.

Speaker 4 Caught the pass from Grant Hill at the top of the key, turned around, bam.

Speaker 4 Ball game.

Speaker 4 You remember that game, Moncha?

Speaker 4 Oh.

Speaker 4 Hey, man. Come on, man.

Speaker 4 Hell nah.

Speaker 4 Okay, here we go.

Speaker 4 Last one. All right, you ain't going to get this one.

Speaker 4 Play for the Iowa Hawkeyes, known for the triple-doubles and record-breaking performances. One of the top scorers in NCAA history.
Revolutionized women's basketball. Not Caitlin Clark, Gojo.

Speaker 4 Hey, I want to know who briefed you before this.

Speaker 4 I thought you were going to give me like, well, who won the 1975 national championship and the men?

Speaker 4 I thought you were going to ask me something like that.

Speaker 4 Who won the national championship 1975? For the men? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think NC State.

Speaker 4 Because 76 was Indiana. 77 was Marquette.
78 was Kentucky. 79 was Michigan State.
80 was Louisville. 81 was Indiana again.
82 was Michael Jordan's year. 83 was NC State.
84 was Georgetown. God damn.

Speaker 4 750 shit up.

Speaker 4 You still they won? So when did David Thompson win? 74?

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 I got a problem.

Speaker 4 We got a whole court, especially with the chat. The chat, we all got a whole court.

Speaker 4 There's a small discrepancy in the level of difficulty in my questions when it's time to spell and the questions that you get on Dunk On On.

Speaker 4 I thought you was going to ask me some, like, some NCA stuff, like, you know, who won the 96 national championship? Right.

Speaker 4 Or

Speaker 4 Kelly, ask me something about Cheryl Swoops. Right.

Speaker 4 Lynette Woodard.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 But you can't ask me something about Coach K.

Speaker 4 Right. Okay.
Don't worry about it. I got you.
Listen, next time I got you. I got you.
I'm going to take the degree of difficulty to the maximum the way you can do it with my words. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Ask me where Oscar Robinson played or something like that. Right.
Okay.

Speaker 4 You know, Jerry West played Ohio State, so don't ask me that. No, he played at West Virginia.

Speaker 4 But he played Ohio State, didn't he?

Speaker 4 I was there. Me and Jerry, me and Jerry actually.

Speaker 4 Jerry Lucas played Ohio State.

Speaker 4 Damn. Boy, ooh, I had a bad night tonight, boy.
Yeah, West Virginia with Jerry, because that's where he's from. Jerry Lucas.

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Speaker 4 Oh, I had a bad night. Chad, I apologize.
You did, Ocho. It's time to welcome his birthday was yesterday.

Speaker 4 He's celebrated, so happy belated birthday he's the owner he's a co-owner of the iconic smash burger joint trail burger and if i i follow him and i think he just opened up another one um trail burger

Speaker 4 bun b what it do hey hey what's going on gentlemen what's going on thanks for having old man

Speaker 4 what's up man what's good

Speaker 4 I see, Ocho. I see you shining over there.
Hey, look, man. You know, I got a little lotion on.
That's all it is. A little lotion.

Speaker 4 But let me ask you this let me let's let's kick it off with this but when did you come up with the idea to start trail burger i didn't come up with the idea the idea was brought to me by two mutual friends of mine okay one that i knew in a previous career as a clothing line designer and the other i knew in a previous career as a podcaster for the texans they both moved into new paths one becoming a restaurateur the other becoming a marketing and promotions manager of restaurants so uh the restaurateur, Andy Wynn, came up with an idea for Smash Burger, but the Smash Burger phenomenon was already moving on the West Coast.

Speaker 4 He's from California. He saw the trend starting to move east and he was like, if I don't catch it by Texas, I'm going to miss the whole Smash Burger trend.

Speaker 4 But I don't have as strong a brand out there. I need someone to partner with.

Speaker 4 And if my other friend, Nick Skurfield, was like, well, I know Bun has had a food blog for many years called yougoteatis.com. Go check us out.
And

Speaker 4 he was like, I know Bun's been looking for an entry point into the culinary space.

Speaker 4 I didn't want to do a full restaurant because there's so many different menu items and there's so many different ingredients that you stock and a lot of things you lose if people don't,

Speaker 4 if people don't come in and buy that shrimp

Speaker 4 in a day or two, that shrimp starts to go bad by day three and you lose it. A lot of

Speaker 4 slaughter. You know what I'm saying? So, but this was a very refined, very simple concept.
I went and met up with him. I tried the burger.

Speaker 4 And I thought not only was it one of the best burgers I'd ever had, I thought it was one of the best meals I'd ever had. The flavor combination is incredible.

Speaker 4 Anybody that's ever had it will tell you they may have had good burgers, but no one has ever done

Speaker 4 with a hamburger what we've done. And what I mean by what we've done is we care about it more than I think other people care about a burger.
Most burgers are afterthoughts.

Speaker 4 You know, something like, I got 30 minutes for lunch. Where can I go and get something real quick? Or, man, I left this club.

Speaker 4 i'm full of this liquor i got to try to soak it up with something you know what i'm saying

Speaker 4 got to absorb it bud you know but we found a real sweet spot man you know we found a way to not only introduce a better product into the public but also for me personally a way to transition my cultural equity that i built up in the entertainment industry into the culinary industry in a way that I could capitalize off of it a lot better than I could in the music industry because of the contractual agreements that I signed at a very young age.

Speaker 4 And with this, I was able to own everything outright with my partners.

Speaker 4 There was no investors as there was with the record company where you take that advance up front. We did all of this out of pocket.
We continue to do it out of pocket.

Speaker 4 We don't take any money out of the company so that the company can grow, be self-sustained. So we don't need investors.
We don't need finances from anybody.

Speaker 4 And we just try to build something that we believe will last longer than we will. I like that.

Speaker 4 I want to go back with it being your birthday. You know, you turn a young,

Speaker 4 you're getting younger you know

Speaker 4 your recent birthday bonanza at at houston rodeo obviously it featured a diverse lineup man you had keith sweat don tolliver yolanda adams what inspired you to blend hip-hop r b and gospel for this event

Speaker 4 You know, we've done a lot of different lineups with my shows at the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo.

Speaker 4 Last year was the first year that they'd ever had two full rap nights. One was my night and one was with 50 Cent in his tour.

Speaker 4 And it kind of started to get away from what the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo as far as Black Heritage Day has always been.

Speaker 4 And that's been a very inclusive evening that was always family friendly. And with some of this rap music, it could get away from being a family friendly environment very quickly.

Speaker 4 And so the rodeo was like, look, we would love to reset the bar.

Speaker 4 Like we appreciate what your hip-hop contributions and all of the talent that you brought to the stage stage have done for the rodeo, but we think we need to reset the bar because if we don't, we're going to lose the demographic.

Speaker 4 And that was the problem with the rodeo before was that the rodeo had aged itself out. The rodeo did not bring in hip-hop and younger music

Speaker 4 in a timely manner. So they started to age.
people away from the rodeo, younger people. And when I say younger, this may sound crazy, but when I say younger, I mean like 50 and under.

Speaker 4 Right. Right.
There was nothing that was catering to them. Nothing in popular music was catering to them.
Nothing in popular culture was catering to them.

Speaker 4 And so there became a concerted effort to try to make sure that the people on stage reflected the diversity of the city of Houston, which is arguably the most diverse city in America right now.

Speaker 4 There's over 100 spoken languages and so many different cross-culture things happening in the city.

Speaker 4 And so we did a good job of diversifying it, but at the same time, you don't want to leave people out.

Speaker 4 And I could tell that if we did one more show that was rap centric my mama wasn't going to want to come no more and

Speaker 4 we're going to want to come no more because it can be a little much the way people dance to it i get it there's an energy and we want to bring energy and entertainment but we don't want to do that and make sure that other people don't isolate others absolutely you know my mother comes to the rodeo my siblings my wife siblings our children our nieces and nephews and now our grandchildren all come so i got it i wanted to make sure that i got something there for my mama and my wife's mother that they can relate to things that we can relate to, my children and my grandchildren.

Speaker 4 So that's why you get a keep sweat for us. You get a Yolanda Adams for the older, more Christian grandmothers and aunties and whatnot.
And you get a Don Tolliver for a younger artist,

Speaker 4 Coco Jones for a younger artist. You know what I'm saying? And then, of course, for my base, you know, Luda T.I., you know, we hit them right in the chest with that hip-hop.

Speaker 4 So we want to make sure that when people come down, because now it's become a tourist attraction, there's literally thousands of people that come down for this thing now.

Speaker 4 And I want to make sure that they get something.

Speaker 4 And look, anytime you know the triple OG Bun B is on it, you know it's going to be big and you know he gonna do right. He gonna do right by agedown because the agedown down.
He born and bred.

Speaker 4 Hey, he believe in that. And I love that.
But I love that

Speaker 4 the fact that the rodeo came to you and said, we really appreciate it, but let's not get too far away from what we intended the rodeo be.

Speaker 4 Because we're while we're bringing in one demo we're losing another demo how can we blend these demos together and grow it so we they still come more of you guys still come and guess what we expand this thing and a lot of people didn't really understand it because you know i don't tell everybody who's coming i typically keep about two or three surprises to entertain people on the spot so when i was saying hey i got don tolliver and i got keep sweat and i got coco jones and i got yolanda adams people don't see how that mix is in the room.

Speaker 4 Right. People don't see how those genres blend together.
And people really didn't understand the vision. We knew what we were doing the whole time.

Speaker 4 Yolanda Adams was specifically brought in to be a part of the Immemorium program where we honored all of the legends that have fallen. And then we thought it was good to have some praise in the room.

Speaker 4 I feel very blessed to have this opportunity. I've done this for sure four times.
I've sold over 300,000 tickets in just four shows. We're averaging 74,000 people every time we've done this.

Speaker 4 So it's been a beautiful opportunity, not just for me, for my family, for my business. I've been able to pass it on to other people that grew up in Houston, dreaming of doing the rodeo.

Speaker 4 Now they've actually been able to do it. I grew up at a time where, you know, you didn't even think that somebody that did hip-hop music would even be on that stage.

Speaker 4 And now we exist where I live as an example to the next generation. Maybe one day I can do the rodeo like Bun B.
You know what I'm saying? So we understand,

Speaker 4 we understand how deeply this thing resonates with so many different people. And we don't want to let people down, especially right now.

Speaker 4 I don't want to seem like I'm leaving people out of something because this world is so divisive right now. Yeah,

Speaker 4 and things are not really as inclusive. And I don't think people understand no culture is more inclusive as black people because black people understand what it's like to be left out.

Speaker 4 So we don't want people left out of a good time. You know what I'm saying? And we know that you don't need a bunch of money to have a good time.

Speaker 4 So we try to make entertainment as authentic and realistic and approachable as possible for people. And I think we've been able to do that with the rodeo.

Speaker 4 Hey, boy, you know we've been making stuff out of nothing with no money for the longest time hey we don't need no money so when i get five dollars it's a party front hey for sure hey we had one of the most hood party 20

Speaker 4 hey we got the block with it you know what i'm saying

Speaker 4 but let me ask you this but when you when you were growing up did you go to the rodeo when you were growing up Yeah, that was my first concert ever. That's a big inside joke about it.

Speaker 4 The first concert I ever went to was

Speaker 4 Conway Twitty and Loretta Lynn when I was three years old. I feel Conway Conway Twiddy.
The funny thing Cole Bino's daughter, Loretta Lynn.

Speaker 4 Yeah, my mom had gotten a car wreck and a man had hit her and she was very nervous because this was in the 70s. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 She's a black woman by herself in an accident with a white man. She just knew

Speaker 4 that she would be at fault. But the police came.
He told the police it was my fault. She did nothing.
He took care of everything.

Speaker 4 And then he asked her, would you like some tickets to go to the rodeo when the rodeo come? And she said, sure. She gave him my information and addresses.

Speaker 4 She never thought nothing of it and a couple of weeks later the ticket showed up and so they took the family to the rodeo and that was my first concert my first time ever being in the astrodome you know what i'm saying and it left a lasting memory on me like like one of my first musical memories is the houston livestock show and rodeo concert And just, you know, over the years, going every different time, my wife shares these kind of memories.

Speaker 4 My wife saw Michael Jackson for the first time at the rodeo.

Speaker 4 You know, a lot of people have, you know, you can basically, you know, have a timeline of your life based on different experiences at the rodeo the first time you went as a youngster the first time your parents dropped you off because it's literally the safest environment you can be in at the rodeo so there was a time when you get 15 to 16 your mama would drop you off at the rodeo during spring break and you and your friends can hang out all night and then get picked up later because it was a safe thing you know what i'm saying so it's been a part of many people's lives over the years and now people actually have a real-time experience at the rodeo and not just when I perform, we have like a 9,000 square foot installation called Trill Town, where we do the burgers, we do our Trill Tenders, we have merch, Trill Lemonade, we have a bar,

Speaker 4 you know, basketball goal for people to play little games, win hats, win merchandise. So we've made it something that everybody that celebrates Houston culture can come in and feel comfortable.

Speaker 4 I know that there are people from other races that feel funny trying to celebrate other cultures and mix company because they're not allowed allowed to be as free as they would like to be amongst some of their own people.

Speaker 4 We provide a night where everybody can come and be who they want to be and nobody's going to look at you sideways. Because in order to enjoy it, you got to leave your prejudice at the door.

Speaker 4 If you don't like white folks, you can't come because white folks are going to be there having a good time.

Speaker 4 If you don't like black folks, you can't come because black folk is going to be there having a good time.

Speaker 4 Straight folks, gay folks, Mexicans, Asians, everybody comes out and they're all having a good time. So the only way you can enjoy it is leave your bulls, your bull stuff at the door.

Speaker 4 And hopefully we believe that if people have a good enough time with other people of other cultures and make friends and learn things, maybe they won't pick it up when they leave and they can leave their prejudices outside forever.

Speaker 4 That's live, man. Listen, but when you're talking, when you're talking, I can hear the passion and enthusiasm in your voice, the way you're explaining everything.
Listen, you've always

Speaker 4 listened. You've always been vocal about social issues.
You know, you've engaged in various, various community initiatives in Houston.

Speaker 4 Man, what drives you still, you know, in your commitment to always give back to the community. And do you have any upcoming projects that you're excited about that you can tell us?

Speaker 4 We in Houston as entertainers,

Speaker 4 athletes, what have you, we have a different relationship with the public as other places do.

Speaker 4 I believe that there are lines that are drawn, cultural lines, neighborhood lines, other things that come into play in other major cities in America, where people can't really bond in the way that we bond, right?

Speaker 4 Like L.A. has cultural lines.
It has neighborhood lines that some people can't cross. So that city can very, very seldom come together and unite.
Same thing with New York.

Speaker 4 Some people might be from Queens or Brooklyn or whatever. In Houston, we had division maybe 25, 30 years ago between the north side and the south side.
That doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 4 Everybody sees themselves as Houstonians, no matter who you are and where you come from in the city. So we've been able to build a connection with people that's different.

Speaker 4 People see us in the grocery store. People see us in the mall.
People see us in restaurants, at car car washes, in the gym. We're very visible, and we're very approachable and very personable.

Speaker 4 So, people feel like when they buy our music, they're not just investing in music, they're investing in people, they're investing in neighborhoods, and they look at us as cultural exports.

Speaker 4 Like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Like, when you come to Houston, we don't brag about who the best uh Big E Jay-Z or Nas, we brag about who the best Slim Thug, Kiki, or Bun B, you know what I'm saying, or Scarface, yeah, those are the kind of we have a lot of pride, you know.

Speaker 4 Texas has always been a self-sustained entity, it it was its own country

Speaker 4 so and so we didn't never

Speaker 4 felt fully embraced until very recently everything we wanted we had to make it on our own entertainment wise if you wanted to be a recording artist you know a new york label or la label was probably not going to sign you so you had to go out you had to make relationships with wholesalers and distributors and record stores and radio stations and club owners and all of that and make your way and we all had to do it so there's a common respect um that we all have for each other because we all kind of had to traggy traggers that particular path in order to make it but it's the people

Speaker 4 it's not just the artists it's the people of houston who don't look at us in that way yeah there may be somebody that's never seen me before and might be excited to get a picture but if you rode with me through houston for uh 12 14 hours you'd hear a lot of what's up oh g hey what's up b what's up uh It's not a lot of, oh my God, oh wow, because we don't put those kind of walls

Speaker 4 with people. And that's why the relationship with us is a lot different.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Now, as far as uh projects we are opening the second store probably within the next seven days seven to ten days the second location of trillburger be open in spring texas we'll have two more locations um but by the end of the year and i'm currently in dallas right now with the wife uh

Speaker 4 mainly let you know so my anniversary my birthday is four days apart so i would never forget my anniversary

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 That's what's up. So we spent the daytime on the anniversary letting us shop.
We spent nighttime with me going to my favorite restaurant.

Speaker 4 There's a Carbon here, it's the closest Carlon I can get to in Houston. That's my favorite restaurant.

Speaker 4 So we drove up here, we did a little shopping, went did some uh did some dinner with a good friend of mine.

Speaker 4 And uh, you know, I'm probably look at some locations tomorrow, ride around Fresno and Plaino at a couple of different spots, you know, looking for a location.

Speaker 4 But we hope to be in Dallas and Austin by the by summer next year. If lucky,

Speaker 4 hey, boy, check this out. What do you think about nightcap at the rodeo station?

Speaker 4 i think there's room to possibly do it at my activation

Speaker 4 because you have to understand i don't think many people understand what the rodeo is the rodeo is a 21 day event

Speaker 4 yeah

Speaker 4 i'm only one night of 21 nights okay of concerts that that take place in the nrg stadium the football stadium okay yeah average about 65 66 000 people a night easy wow so it's arguably the biggest music festival in the world that isn't promoted as a music festival.

Speaker 4 Could be talking about 21 concerts day after day after day in a day.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? It's a huge undertaking. Now, that being said, my space, my wife thought of the idea of bringing in a DJ and a DJ booth and some space up there.
So there is a stage.

Speaker 4 Now, next year, we can make it a little bit bigger. Okay, whatever.
Hey, make it a little bit bigger. That way we can

Speaker 4 get ready up there. Yes, absolutely.
babe what you think about nightcap and trail time two thumbs up

Speaker 4 that's what's up i appreciate that oh we're gonna hey we're gonna hey a uh oh g you know we're gonna circle back on this now do we real talk now no i'm open to it because i want to make it a bigger weekend for people.

Speaker 4 We realize now that, and you know, you look at the music, boots on the ground, and all this other soul that's blowing up right now, that black cowboy country, western lifestyle that has always existed is now in the forefront and my weekend at the rodeo is becoming a big proponent of that you know i'm saying it gives a place that's big enough for everybody because a lot of black rodeos unfortunately are still smaller they're still growing they got a lot of momentum and energy but they still they're still growing they're still smaller my rodeo is the largest rodeo in the world You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 So you wouldn't have a larger audience to cater to with that type of movement and motion. My wife brought in DJ Payne from South Carolina.

Speaker 4 He's the biggest line dance and Southern Soul DJ in the country. And we had people, our space couldn't even hold how many people wanted to dance.
They were dancing in the street.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? It's just such a great way for people to come together and commune. That's what music has always been for people of color.

Speaker 4 It's always been a reason for us to get together and commune. That dominoes, playing cards, barbecue, crawfish, those are all excuses for us as a culture to come together and spend time together.

Speaker 4 We don't even like each other, but if so-and-so, who doing the barbecue? Trey doing the barbecue. All right, I'll come.

Speaker 4 Who cooking a potato salad? Nisa doing a potato salad. All right, I'll show up for that.
It's an excuse for us to get together. I like it.
And so

Speaker 4 I'm looking at that we built something that now gives people an entry point. If you don't know about it, you haven't had any experience.

Speaker 4 This is a very easy entry point into this cultural representation. But for those of us that know, oh, it's the bad signal.

Speaker 4 It's the bad signal. Hey, when you, when you talk about this, man, I'm thinking about your plate.
Well, your plate is full, man. Your plate is full, man.

Speaker 4 Listen, your role as a musician, an entrepreneur, your community leader. Man, how the hell you balance all these different facets of your career? And what keep you motivated, baby?

Speaker 4 Because just listen to it. This is a lot.

Speaker 4 It is. It is.
But

Speaker 4 I think everybody on this knows that God doesn't give you more than you can handle. You just got to figure out how to handle it.
right?

Speaker 4 I have an amazing support system. I have a beautiful, strong black woman as a wife in my corner.
And the reason I've gotten this far is not because I know it all, I can do it all.

Speaker 4 My wife refuses to settle for a lesser version of me. So when she knows I'm not going all the way in and not giving my 100%, she'll hold me accountable.

Speaker 4 She'll be like, you know, you can do better than that. You know, you're supposed to be doing more than that.
So there'd be a lot of times I want to phone it in.

Speaker 4 I'll be like, man, I just want to stay home. Now, why would you do that knowing you told them people you was going to come?

Speaker 4 You know, my wife,

Speaker 4 I can't do it. My wife knows, my wife believes of the, it has always believed in my greatness.
And when I don't live up to it, because she talks about it, she holds me accountable.

Speaker 4 So I go out and do the rodeo and all that. The next day, I got to come home and put the trash out.
You know, I got to pick up stuff in the garage.

Speaker 4 I got to make sure I don't leave the kitchen light on. All those things.

Speaker 4 We have moments where we are very blessed that we get to see the world and travel the world and do all of that.

Speaker 4 But every other day, man, we are a family trying to exist, making sure our children, our grandchildren are okay, that we got a good home that's comfortable for us to live in you know all i got to do is give her a house and she's gonna make a home

Speaker 4 that's not even a question you heard what he just said huh you see what i'm talking about yeah what i've been telling you now but i'm i'm trying to get him to settle down but i'm trying i'm trying to get him to find him a wife because listen the way you're talking the way you're explaining things it shouldn't be hard after hearing what you just said

Speaker 4 but she got to keep up with him though that's the thing

Speaker 4 You got to keep up with him. He got to find a woman that's so busy he gets jealous.
Hey, listen, we found for one.

Speaker 4 Hey, bun, we found one for him. He interviewed her not too long ago.

Speaker 4 Wait till she ain't got no time for him. We're going to find out where he's saying that.
He's going to try to spend that money, send that plane,

Speaker 4 plan that vacation, anything he can to spend time with that woman. When he starts, oh, Joe, when he starts disregarding things he don't normally disregard,

Speaker 4 and them assistants start having to do things that he normally go and do. Yeah, he got something.
Yeah, he got one, huh?

Speaker 4 He got something on his mind. Hey, I got one more question.
I got one more question. This is going.

Speaker 4 I'm sure a lot of people in the chat would love to hear this answer because I definitely want to hear it.

Speaker 4 Who are your top five Houston rappers?

Speaker 4 Your top five. Oh, man.

Speaker 4 Now, I'm just adding the fifth.

Speaker 4 I'm going to make it five instead of four.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 We're going to start with Kay Reno. Kay Reno is the OG of Houston rappers.

Speaker 4 He's the hype.

Speaker 4 He's the epitome of what Houston Raps foundation should have been built on so we had the right ogs to start it out for us obviously scarface one of the not just one of the best writers and any rappers in houston but just i mean arguably the best storyteller that hip-hop has ever had ever very few people i think only two pop can really

Speaker 4 convey emotion through words on a rap song in the way that Scarface does. When Scarface talks about death, you feel that loss when he talks about

Speaker 4 friends.

Speaker 4 Fraze has a song called suicide and i'm talking about i had never heard a song about somebody delving into the psyche of somebody that they thought was okay but wasn't okay

Speaker 4 and then you start to question making sure you're okay like this so the depth of scarface's writing talents and mentality man have been criminally underrated in in the world of hip-hop

Speaker 4 I think number three, you got to go Willie D.

Speaker 4 And Willie D has been about, Willie D is the prototype. Like, Willie D is the type of person that when you think of a Houston rapper meeting one in a dark alley, Willie D is who you project, really.

Speaker 4 You know, that's somebody that, you know, has stood on all 10 toes constantly, consistently, and still does.

Speaker 4 The fun thing about watching Willie D, one, he loved the culture just as much as he always had. And two, he bought that just as much as he's always been.

Speaker 4 There's certain things that you can count on, and Willie D being about that life is absolutely one of them.

Speaker 4 He still leads by example and he still makes us proud to be from Houston and knowing that, you know, whatever you say in this world, you better stand on it.

Speaker 4 Because with some people, it might be a fight with it. Right.
You know what I'm saying? Number four.

Speaker 4 Number four, I might have to go out on a limb. Yeah, man.
I may have to go out on a limb with this one.

Speaker 4 I don't know how everybody's going to feel about this,

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 4 I think gangster Nip

Speaker 4 and may be one of the best rappers from houston and i'll tell you why the only reason that people really didn't get into gangster nip is because of the subject matter he did a lot of horror okay you know he wrote stuff for bushwick and a lot of his stuff

Speaker 4 was a lot of his music existed in this in this world of horror and gore and all of that type of stuff friday the 13th jason all of that type of stuff that it but his flow

Speaker 4 in the in the mid 90s in the early 90s and mid i mean it's some of the best rapping i've ever seen and done in my life.

Speaker 4 And number five, I'm not going to put Pimp here because I feel like Pimp supersedes a lot of things in this argument. I'm going to go with Keller Kalion.

Speaker 4 I don't think anybody wants to be the best rapper in Houston more than him.

Speaker 4 I don't think anybody takes the art. of lyricism as serious as he does.
Now, we got people that got a lot of motion. Maxo got motion.

Speaker 4 Megan has got motion. Travis, OT, Walker.
There's a lot of people from Houston, young artists up and coming talent that got art that have motion and have fan bases and are really making major moves.

Speaker 4 But when we talk about just rap rapping, like rapping and like looking in the motherfucking face and meaning what you say when you rap this stuff, I don't think anybody conveys that more than Killer Calio.

Speaker 4 I think Killer Calio could potentially be the best lyricist to ever come out of the city of Houston. He just got a, the problem is, he got too much respect for his predecessors.

Speaker 4 And I feel like, in some form or fashion, as a competitor, at some point, you can respect the GOAT and still want to beat the GOAT at the same time. I like it.

Speaker 4 We're going to get you out of here on that. I'm just going to wake up a day and say, man, F all that, man, F-Bun being all of them.
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Speaker 4 Bun, we're going to get you out of here on this one. Which Houston team are you most excited about this year? Your Cougars, your Rockets, your Texans, or your Astros? Now, that's a great question.

Speaker 4 That is a great question. It's always easy to be excited about the Cougars because at this point, that's a program that does this as far as basketball.

Speaker 4 That men's basketball team does this at this point.

Speaker 4 They've gone into the last four marches being heavily favored. They made it to the eighth at least two, three times.
I think, I know the last two years for sure.

Speaker 4 I think they got a great chance of going all the way this season.

Speaker 4 But that's at this point with that program, that's to be expected. These Astros are going through transition,

Speaker 4 right? We lost Bregman. That was was a hometown hero.
We love Alex Bregman. You know, as we lost Korea, we lost a couple of other guys, but we're bringing in, we always bring in young talent.

Speaker 4 That's been the great thing about this Astros organization that the Cranes have always brought in and nurtured young talent. They draft well and they build talent up.

Speaker 4 They don't look to just go out and try to buy a player. They're about winning several.
They're not about winning this year. They want to win several years.
They've tasted it.

Speaker 4 They know what it takes to get there and they believe they can do it. But they're still in a little bit of rebuilding right now.
Lost a couple of pitchers, got McCullough's back.

Speaker 4 So we're going to figure it out. They're perennial playoff team, right?

Speaker 4 But it's going to take more this year to get to that final step than I think it has over the last two or three seasons.

Speaker 4 The Rockets, I mean, my goodness, look at this young team.

Speaker 4 Young and talented. You talk about a talented young team.
Tillman has done a great job of being like, you know what? We just got to start over.

Speaker 4 Like,

Speaker 4 we're not one or two players away we're a team away but i mean he put this he put this team on his shoulders of green jalen is an amazing talent i think he's a great leader i think thompson is a problem

Speaker 4 i think he's a beast on that team um yeah i really do

Speaker 4 oh

Speaker 4 i even got to him it took a while to figure out how to say his name nice it took a while it took a while to figure out how to say his name but hey we got the promise with that young boy and that's what yeah bro he for real i understand that he grew up in the game of fundamentals, right?

Speaker 4 But he's playing with some dogs. I watched him the other day try to do an over behind the back pass.
He almost had they teaching him that black top ball, right?

Speaker 4 They teach, they don't have to teach him fundamentals. He knows how to pass all.
They're teaching him black top no look passes in the paint. When he finds that step,

Speaker 4 that boy is going to be a real problem. But I say all that to say, this team has everything in the and man you doca.

Speaker 4 That was the steal. He's the right coach.

Speaker 4 That was the steal. And I understand why he couldn't stay where he was, but I'm so glad he's where he is.

Speaker 4 Britchetti. I'm so excited.
That's the truth. At the city, they love it because they get to see me every now and then.
So the city loves that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But them Texans,

Speaker 4 man, man, them Texans.

Speaker 4 I think in two, three years, man, I think they're going to be the ones to beat, man. It could happen in the next two years.
This team is building a strong structure.

Speaker 4 D'Amico knows exactly what he wants.

Speaker 4 The organization isn't scared to spend the money to give him what he wants. And they're so embracive of the local culture.

Speaker 4 They do collaborations with local artists and they bring in different talent to perform at the games. They allow me to bring my burgers into the stadium.

Speaker 4 They're doing everything they can to be as Houston-centric an organization as they can be. They're putting the money where it needs to go.
They're trying to strengthen that O-line.

Speaker 4 I know everybody wasn't crazy about losing Tunsel, but I can understand organizationally why they feel they needed to go in another direction. I hear there were locker room problems.

Speaker 4 There were a ton of penalties, right? A lot of things going on. And I just think they were growing in a different direction.
I think that they supplemented the defense. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 They're probably going to have to draft a little more to tighten up that O-line.

Speaker 4 Because they got to protect CJ. They got to protect CJ by all means.

Speaker 4 I like the Kirk signing. I like bringing Christian Kirk in.
I think he's a fast young player. He's got some good talent.

Speaker 4 he definitely got hands and cj can hit him and drive you know because i i knew we weren't gonna probably weren't gonna keep diggs another season i i don't think we were gonna keep him another season so they had to start thinking receiver receiver receiver tank had his surgery he's a young guy i think he'll recover quickly i think i i honestly think tank will be ready by game one um of a 25 26 season But I think the Texans are a team that everybody has got to circle their calendar dates when they play that team.

Speaker 4 That defense is only getting better.

Speaker 4 I'm curious to see what the new OC is going to do.

Speaker 4 I think that's going to be the big tense is what the new OC is going to be able to create with CJ, but at least they won't be as predictable in year two

Speaker 4 as they were, in year three, as they were in year two, because year one was a lot of surprises. Year two, they pretty much tried to replicate the playbook and people saw it a mile away.

Speaker 4 With a new OC, I think there's going to be a new approach. I think he's going to find a better way of working with these new offensive lines.
I feel positive about what we're doing as a team.

Speaker 4 So I I would put it in that order. I would say Koogs,

Speaker 4 Koogs, Astros, Rockets, and Texans for the one.

Speaker 4 Hey, triple OG Bun B, bro, thank you for joining us. Congratulations on everything.
The Trailburger franchises,

Speaker 4 the rodeo, your big staple in the community, what you do to uplift your community. We appreciate you.
We salute you here at Nightcap. Thanks for joining us.
We'll see you down the road. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Thank y'all for doing that drop for the rodeo for me last year, too.

Speaker 4 Always following, bro. You know that.

Speaker 4 we're gonna find some space to put y'all in

Speaker 4 matter of fact. I'll bring that night.

Speaker 4 Not only if people want to see that, not only that, let me perform. You know, I can sing now.

Speaker 4 I think we're breaking up. Yeah, we are.

Speaker 4 Night OG, appreciate that, y'all.

Speaker 4 Thank y'all, brother.

Speaker 4 Thank you, bro.

Speaker 4 Remember, I told y'all I had that right back.

Speaker 4 That's the original. That's the OG, like triple OG bun B.

Speaker 4 That's the triple OG iPod. That's live.

Speaker 4 That's the number two version. This one holds 10,000 songs.
This one holds 1,000 song.

Speaker 4 Y'all remember the iPad Touch?

Speaker 4 iPod Touch?

Speaker 4 Damn.

Speaker 4 And check this out. You know, that stuff might be worth something because it looks like you got you.
Don't worry.

Speaker 4 And it might be, I'd be a guess what? It's supposed to be worth something with this plus 5,200. Wait, come again?

Speaker 4 it's supposed to be this plus 5200. all your stuff is in good condition like mint condition you could probably get get a good price for it

Speaker 4 look at this og you know what this is oh y'all that's the iphone 9

Speaker 4 no that's the original i thought i thought it started with number nine or am i tripping man it started with number one

Speaker 4 y'all remember that crazy

Speaker 4 Hey, and you know what she do? Put Saran wrap back in and pretend like it's brand new.

Speaker 4 No, I ain't getting rid of it.

Speaker 4 You know how much it ain't never how much money you can get for that? The original iPhone? I mean,

Speaker 4 somebody probably give me like five grand for it because it's the original. I know.

Speaker 4 It ain't never been active. It ain't never been turned on.
They never had no phone number. And how much you said they can give you for it?

Speaker 4 Probably about five.

Speaker 4 You go ahead and sell that one. I owe you 200.

Speaker 4 No, no, they ain't got no dude. It's mine.

Speaker 4 You remember the Samsung note, Joe? Samsung? That's a droid. I ain't never had a Samsung phone.

Speaker 4 look at it yeah i ain't never had no joy galaxy note right there

Speaker 4 oh galaxy listen i'll tell you one thing you ever text me and it turned green i'm gonna block you

Speaker 4 yeah come on i'm gonna block you

Speaker 4 i got a little stuff i gotta show y'all my phone i got about i got about 17 18 phones damn

Speaker 4 Yeah, because I keep them. Oh, Joe.
A debate went viral on Twitter asking, should parents make their kids pay bills if they work a job? And the response went viral saying, I'm just going to say it.

Speaker 4 This is a big problem in the black community and we have to stop it.

Speaker 4 A lot of parents need help with their bills, so they take the money from their kids and disguise it as teaching them responsibility. And it's actually pretty effing ridiculous.

Speaker 4 Ocho, what do you think?

Speaker 4 You got to teach your kids responsibility at some point. You have to.

Speaker 4 I think if they're staying with you after the age of 18, now if they're saving up, I wouldn't make my kids, my kids, if they need to stay with me after the age of 18, are you saving up to get yourself a place?

Speaker 4 You have to have some sense of responsibility. I'm not going to always be around.
So you're going to have to be able to be able to fend for yourself. I can teach you how to fish.

Speaker 4 I can teach you how to fish so you know how to do it when I'm not around.

Speaker 4 Now, if I do everything for you and still coddle you and have you up under my roof and you're not having any type of responsibilities and you go out there in the real world, you're going to be lost.

Speaker 4 We can't have that.

Speaker 4 We can't have that. We got to have some type of structure and discipline and method on how things are to go as a grown adult.

Speaker 4 You'd have to, but being under my roof and making sure, allowing you to save your money and get yourself together until you're ready to go on on your own and be an adult, start a family, whatever it may be.

Speaker 4 I'm all for that. I'm all for that.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, no, Joe, I helped my grandmother with bills, but she didn't ask me to.
I just felt it was the right thing to do because I saw my grandmother struggling. I'm making money.
And so what?

Speaker 4 I'm going to continue to watch her struggle. Now, she's struggling trying to put food on the table for us.
She's struggling trying to put food, good clues on our back. So here I am.
I got a job.

Speaker 4 And I'm not making a whole lot of money, but $10

Speaker 4 was a lot of money back in the 70s. $20 was a lot of money back in the 70s.

Speaker 4 So, you know, I'm working two jobs. Hey, I mean, I remember the first time I got a job, I was five years old.
I was walking behind the tobacco picker in the tobacco field,

Speaker 4 1973, 1974. And from that time, I started from walking behind the tobacco picker to carrying a row

Speaker 4 to doing that. So I'm working 10, 12 hours a day doing that, come home, shower, me and my cousin.
We play basketball and then go catch chickens for another three, four hours, three, four hours.

Speaker 4 The chickens are a dollar a thousand.

Speaker 4 A dollar a thousand. So we catching eight to twelve thousand a night.
That's twelve dollars.

Speaker 4 Now you can only call chicken between Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, because Friday was the last day. There is nothing going on on Saturday.

Speaker 4 So you started, so you have, so they were going to be there.

Speaker 4 No, actually, Thursday was the last day. Thursday was the last day.
You didn't catch on Friday because they were off on Saturday and Sunday.

Speaker 4 The chicken that you caught Sunday, they were there for the crew.

Speaker 4 The plant. was operational

Speaker 4 Monday through Friday. So you caught Sunday,

Speaker 4 Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

Speaker 4 And so, you know, hey, I'm bringing home

Speaker 4 $5 a day plus half a day on Saturday, $2,750,000, plus we catch $8,000 to $12,000 four nights a week. So I'm making maybe $60,

Speaker 4 but I'm working a little hours. Hey, that's it.
You know, hey, listen. Okay.
Back then, you know how

Speaker 4 far you can stretch $60 back then?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Man, stop playing. So even if I didn't help an OJ, guess what? I bought my own school clothes.

Speaker 4 There ain't a whole lot of eight, nine, ten-year-old, 11-year-olds buying their own school clothes. Well, who else was gonna get them? What the hell I was working for? Hey, hold on.

Speaker 4 I'm working, gonna hold my money. I'm gonna hold my money in my pocket.
I'm watching my grandma struggle. I gotta please.

Speaker 4 What kind of clothes you wore back then? Like Jordan Ash?

Speaker 4 No, no, no, you know.

Speaker 4 You know, Sears and Rough was Sears and Rough World. Okay, okay, okay.
I know, I know. You know, we had them tough, tough skins, but hey, then as I got older, Lee Gene.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You had Sergio Rigoletto. You did have.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hey. Yeah.
You had Levi and stuff like Eizon. You had Polo.
You had Law.

Speaker 4 Did you ever have a pair of rules? Please tell me you had rules with a zip on the side. I didn't.

Speaker 4 You know what rules are, right, Kangaroos?

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 We didn't have none of them? Please.

Speaker 4 No, we had, no, we had Chuck Taylor. Okay, okay.
You know, back then, Ocho, the Chuck Taylor's white.

Speaker 4 You had the meat, you had the uh the highs, and you had the lows, but you had them in all different colors. They came in black, they came in red, they came in blue, they came in green.

Speaker 4 So, you know, you got mainly, I only had the white, I had the highs and the lows, and I got a blue, I had a blue pair. Hey, you know what's funny? They go with everything,

Speaker 4 it don't matter what you put on, you wear the black pair, you don't want the white pair, they go with everything.

Speaker 4 Yes, yes, and so that from like I said, for me, and I get it. I mean, I can see her point trying to teach responsibility, but I was teaching myself responsibility

Speaker 4 because my whole purpose, like, man, I see my grandma struggling. She working at that job, making $197 every two weeks.

Speaker 4 And she's, you know, working in a nursing home, the very nursing home that she ended up living her final days, the last two years of her life. Nah, man, I couldn't in good conscience.

Speaker 4 I could not in good conscience have money in my pocket and then have my grandma worried about, well,

Speaker 4 boy, I don't know how I'm going to pay this bill.

Speaker 4 I don't know, you know, the phone. I I don't know about the gas.
I don't know about the lights. Man, please.
So me, I took it upon myself.

Speaker 4 And that is still my responsibility to this day is to make sure my family is taken care of.

Speaker 4 But, you know, hey,

Speaker 4 my kids and their moms have done a great job helping them understand.

Speaker 4 That's your daddy money. Now, if he chooses to give you some, that's on him.
But y'all don't know that I owe you an education.

Speaker 4 And I gave you the best education because all of you, for the most part, you didn't stay, but you started out in private school and you had college paid for you got a car you left college with no with no debt no student loans no car loans

Speaker 4 same

Speaker 4 now anything i do after that that's out of the kindness of my heart but i don't owe you anything now hopefully you learned a lot from your mom and from your dad to be so self-sufficient now i'm not gonna let you drown nah never never that or at least uh you know you you you might think you're drowning

Speaker 4 matter of fact hey you know i might let I might let you take on some water. Matter of fact, you know, my baby, remember I told you, my daughter at Prairie BNM, you know, she graduated.

Speaker 4 She graduated May 16th. Wait, May 16th to May 17th.
Remember what I told you she wanted for graduation, huh?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That G-Wagon. So we had a conversation when I was with all the kids.
I told her, I say, listen, she done made the dean's list, the honorable, she done made everything.

Speaker 4 So I'm like, well, listen.

Speaker 4 Now, what you want? Now you say you wanted a Mercedes. What is it? So I'm thinking she was going to say G-Wagon.

Speaker 4 And she said, no, daddy, you know, I don't really want no G-Wagon. I say, well, what happened? What made you change your mind? You say, I think it's too much.
The maintenance.

Speaker 4 I just think I just want a starter. Just give me a C-300.
I say, now we're talking.

Speaker 4 Now we're talking.

Speaker 4 You want a white one?

Speaker 4 I could tell them to make your interior pink, you know, with the AKA stitched in the seat and all that.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe. What happened when she got to get rid of it? You better hope she sell it to another AKA.

Speaker 4 Man, you know, when we're coming up with your back then, guy used to get the headline to get Gucci.

Speaker 4 I said, well, you better.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I remember that. I said, well, you better hope, hey, get them to get their initials

Speaker 4 black. I said, you better hope you find another dude named Black that want to buy it.
Because I promise you.

Speaker 4 You're going to get the great cross to coals trying to sell it.

Speaker 4 Syracuse football head coach Fran Brown has a policy that his players must save 40% of their NIL checks.

Speaker 4 There's no way as a coach that I'm going to pay you a lot of money, and then you're going to walk away from here with no money,

Speaker 4 says during the upbringing in Camden, New Jersey. It could have been a difference in paying rent, keeping the lights on, buying food for his siblings.
What you think? You like that? I like that.

Speaker 4 I like that because at some point, especially when you're that young, you know,

Speaker 4 kids these days don't understand financial literacy.

Speaker 4 They get the money, they spend the money, they have this, they have this mindset that worth and value is based on aesthetics and the accessories that you purchase.

Speaker 4 That makes you feel like you are greater than and makes you worth, or it makes you feel special.

Speaker 4 I want kids to understand, especially people in the chat, that a lot of players and athletes today, regardless of sport that they play, they feel that they have to live way above their means based on the type of money they're making.

Speaker 4 People in the chat, players that see this, there is nothing, I guarantee you and I promise you, there is nothing you can buy that holds more weight or value than your name alone. Nothing.
No.

Speaker 4 Nothing than the name that's on that birth certificate. Because when you take all that, when you take off all that designer, all the jewelry, all the watches, that in itself is the value.
It is.

Speaker 4 Your car, your Lamporginis and your Rolls Royce and your iced out watts and your chains and all. And that shit don't mean nothing, man.
Nothing. The true value.

Speaker 4 Can you get the same reaction without the car?

Speaker 4 Without the clothes. Yes.

Speaker 4 Without the jewelry. Can you still pull the same chicks?

Speaker 4 That's your value. That's your real worth.

Speaker 4 Can you still do the same things you do with all the accessories, aesthetics on when you don't have it on?

Speaker 4 yeah come on man stop playing man

Speaker 4 oh joe see the the things with me people like

Speaker 4 i don't like money i like freedom

Speaker 4 freedom is what you get when you have money those are two different things some people just want money i want freedom

Speaker 4 hey

Speaker 4 financial freedom is a beautiful thing huh And a lot of people, we look at

Speaker 4 all the numbers, we look at these huge gargantuan contracts you know still to this day yeah money keeps going up right and one thing that astronomy look up this statistically the same amount of players

Speaker 4 are still going broke two years removed from the game even though the money continues to rise so all that's that's what that's the fact that

Speaker 4 nothing is changing from a financial standpoint because there's no structure and discipline when it comes to spinning because our mindset is well if you give me more

Speaker 4 i won't go broke yeah but if you ain't got no financial

Speaker 4 financial discipline it don't matter how much they give you because you're just gonna keep on spinning

Speaker 4 exactly the more you make the more you'll spend because you're like oh man i got this i got this now i can do this go so fast on man

Speaker 4 it goes so fast before you look up you got an entourage you got an entourage you you you you the golden goose you got to feed everybody else you go shopping now you got to buy everybody else something you go to the club you spending spending 40, 50,000 in the section buying bottles.

Speaker 4 You got a bunch of chicks, you know, trying to impress them for what?

Speaker 4 For what? They done Google how much you're making. You ain't got to do nothing.
Your name alone is going to get you the woman you want anyway. They're going to deal with you based off a name alone.

Speaker 4 You don't think, what are we doing?

Speaker 4 Man, stop playing.

Speaker 4 The volume.

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