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Lakers beat the Nuggets, 121-08. Win their third straight game during the five-game homestand.
Yoke, Jamal Murray was out. LeBron Rui was out.
Luka, 31 points, nine rebounds, seven assists.

Luka, it's his 230-point game.

He had a 20-point quarter and a 20-point half.

So he had it going early.

Austin Reeves had it going early.

I mean, for the first quarter, they could not miss a three.

They had 45 points in the first quarter.

Stepped off the gas a little bit in the second quarter.

Let them get back into the ball game.

Stepped on the gas again on the third quarter.

Blew the game open.

I think the Nuggets scored 31, 32 points in the fourth quarter.

But it wasn't nearly enough.

Yoke, excuse me, Luka, 31 points, nine rebounds, seven assists. His 230-point game, Alston Reeves had 22.8 assists.
But I thought the Lakers played really well. They set the tempo early.
They didn't play down to the level of competition, knowing two of their best players without. And sometimes you get that, Ocho.
The Warriors made that mistake the other night. They looked at it like, oh, Murray not playing.
Oh, Yoke not playing.

And the next thing you know, you find yourself with an

L hung on you. But watching the game, Mocho,

what you thought about the Lakers and how they looked tonight?

I mean, it was impressive. It was very impressive.

Not only did Luka come out and set the tone

in the first quarter with 22 in the first quarter,

actually, he set,

Luka set the tone for the

game. What he

did in the first quarter, coming out with 21 points in the first quarter. And everybody played well.
Most of the time, what happens is when you play a team that doesn't have a player like Murray playing and the other... Jokic.
How do you say it? What's his name? Joker? No, Jokic. Okay, Jokic.
Jokic. Jokic.
I don't know why I keep calling him Joker. Jokic playing.
You play down to your competition. Most of the time you end up losing.
It's similar to how the Warriors did the other night. But obviously the Lakers didn't do that.
They did slow down at some point but it wasn't enough for the Nuggets to get back in the game and they eventually ended up winning the game. So, I mean, it was a good game.
Obviously the the superstars are out. You would have liked to have seen Jokers playing, Ann Murray, LeBron healthy, Luka playing just to see a team at full strength to see what the game would have been like.
Yeah, I thought the Lakers, I thought JJ had a good game plan but when the shots were playing, damn the game plan, I thought they moved the ball early. I think sometimes the Lakers get careless.
They're tired. Look, you just have to accept.
Luka is going to try some things. I mean, he's going out of bounds.
He tried to throw a pass behind his back. Turnover.
And that's what allowed the Nuggets to make this run. They started turning the ball over in the second quarter.
Hold on. What did he do? Going out of what? He's going out of bounds and trying to throw the ball behind his back to a guy right there in front of the basket.
I was like, Lord, have mercy, Luka. But that's Luka.
You have to accept the good with the bad. Right.
Because listen. That's his game.
That's how he plays. And you have to be willing to roll with it.
You got to think about it. When it comes to him, now you do some things you don't like.
You got to accept the good with the bad, but there's more good than bad when it comes to him when he's playing. Yeah, for sure.
AR, man, AR has been great. I like this game, but you could tell, and you look at him from the time he got there to where he is now, he's immensely better.
You could tell he's a student of the game. You can tell he put time in on his game.
You can tell that it's important to him. And that's

what I like to see. Regardless of

the sport you play, it needs to

mean something to you. You gotta want to

get better. You can't rest on your laurels.

Yeah, he got a three-year contract, probably

paying him like $13-14 million.

He said, nah, I want one of them

big daddies. I want one of them two hundies.

And he gonna get it.

And he would have earned it.

He would have earned it. And you see why

the Lakers were so unwilling to part

Thank you. Big Daddies.
I want one of them two Hundys. And he gonna get it.
And he would have earned it. He would have earned it.
And you see why the Lakers were so unwilling to part ways with him. Everybody in every trade always tried to include him.
And a lot of trades broke down because the Lakers were unwilling to part ways with him. They saw the improvement.
They saw the maturation. Getting better from the three.
Getting better at finishing at the rim. Got Niles handles.

He's putting the ball on the floor. Got the nice

snatch pool. He's

really, he's turned himself into

an all-star caliber player.

And I understand that there are a lot

of great guards and, you know, you've got to get back

Steph and you've got

Ja and you've got Shea Gildress

and you've got Harden. You've got some Kyrierie, you got some really good guards in the Western Conference.
But man, the way he's playing, he's an all-star caliber, you know, he's an all-star caliber player, and he can handle the ball. LeBron has trusted him for a very, very long time.
If you go back and look at that Memphis Grizzlies series, he actually won them a game. LeBron's like, nope, don't give the ball to me.
You take it. Go win the game for us.
And he's done that. So I just love the way he's improved, how he's gotten better in this Laker team.
I think if they get healthy, I think they can be dangerous. I still think they're a big short.
But hey, we'll see what happens when the rubber needs to meet the road. Yeah.
Listen, you know the game of basketball very well. So does everybody else.
Everyone else with the knowledge of the game of basketball has said the same thing about the Lakers. They don't have a big.
In order to compete, in order to go as far as you need to go, you're going to have to have a big. They just don't have it.
But we're going to see what they can do with that twoheaded muster. Once LeBron comes back, we'll see what happens.
Well, because they're going to be small. Once Jackson Hayes goes out of the line, they're small.
I mean, Coloco, he's okay. A little small.
Height, okay, height's fine, but he just don't have enough bricks in his back pocket. And so, you know, people can just uproot him and just move him off the spot.
On the spot, yeah. Yeah.
But, you know, I mean, and there are going to be some times that probably LeBron's going to have to slide to the five. Ooh.
And, you know, I mean, because really, if you really think about it, there's not a whole lot of guys that have, you know, Rudy Gobert is not going to cause you any damage. Basically, you know, they got Harden staying.
They got Chet Holmgren. But when you look at Memphis, Zach Eady, he's just a big body.
He just sits screens and stuff like that. Yeah, taking enough space.
Died to the basket. Yeah, taking enough space.
So you look at the teams. Now, Sungoon, Sungoon now, he can be a problem for the Rockets.
Yes, sir. Yeah, he's an all-star.
He's an all-star for a reason. But like I said, I like the Lakers.
LeBron gets healthy. Luka is Luka come playoff time.
He has the third high-scoring. No, he has the second high-scoring average in playoff history.
With that being said, LeBron healthy. LeBron is a top five in playoff history as far as scoring.
They can do some damage, but I just wish they had another big. I don't know why they signed Alex Lynn.
Hey, you ain't been too high on brother Lynn, baby. What's wrong with brother Lynn? He's about, he's probably about 35 days away from being the tallest coach in history.
That's his next profession. It ain't going to be in the NBA.
It's going to be coaching basketball somewhere, maybe high school. Ocho, the Vikings are set to roll with J.J.
McCarthy. Thank you.
Not pursue Aaron Rodgers. Thank you.
The Vikings have rejected multiple trade calls for J.J. McCarthy, telling other teams they're moving forward with him as their quarterback.
The team plans to add a veteran, but they're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. McCarthy now enters the offseason as QB1.
That's a good thing. That's a good thing.
And listen, I don't like the way Aaron Rodgers is using the leverage, using his past, his accolades, his resume, and what he's done in the past to hold team steadily at hostage. Now, some of the reports might...
They hold him hostage. Move on.
They're allowing him. Just like Green Bay allowed him to do all the things that he did, the Jets it.
Green Bay allowed it. The Jets allowed it.

Just move on.

That's exactly what they should do.

Now, this is what I like about Minnesota.

The reports came out about Minnesota obviously being in the hunt for trading for him.

And what they did right away, it ain't even been two days.

Oh, we going to nix that real quick.

We don't have time to play them games with you.

So, obviously, you haven't learned your lesson with the last two places you've been to. Because now here you go.
Tell the other teams, you're not sure on what you want to do yet. Having them wait, using the leverage that you do have the little bit of leverage you still have to play games.
I'm glad that Minnesota Vikings came out and said what they said. They're going forward with JJ McCarthy because you drafted him for a reason.
And you understand what he can do, especially with the supporting cast he has around him. Cause you saw what Sam Darnold was able to do.
He wasn't able to do it with the Jets. He wasn't able to do it with the Panthers.
But all of a sudden, he comes to Minnesota, and he has a career year. And now it's time for J.J.
McCarthy to step up and do the same damn thing. And that's what he's probably going to do, because what he has around him is very, very special.
Yeah, well, you got to find out if the guy can play or not, Ocho. I mean, you keep kicking the can down the road.
Yeah, but listen, even if he couldn't play, we didn't think Sam Darnold would play either when he was with the Jets. We didn't think he could play when he was with the Panthers.
But all of a sudden, magically, he turned into goddamn Houdini over there in Minnesota. But we saw what he looked like the last two games of the season.
Because see, there's this thing called expectations. You tell me, because think about what you just said.
You didn't think Sam Darnold was going to do that. Nobody thought Sam Darnold was going to do that until expectations came along.
And then expectations came along, oh, we got to get the number one seed. And then what happened? Oh, we're in the playoffs.
Then what happened? He turned back into Sam Darnold. You see, expectations is the number one killer of goals and dreams.
Yeah. Because the moment someone expects something of, see, that's the only way you can hurt me, Ocho.
If I don't expect anything, if I'm in a relationship and I'm just casually, I don't expect nothing. Hey, you do you, I'm going to do me.
It's the moment we have expectations in each other. See? That it bothers me, that it hurts me if you do something that I don't agree with.
See what I mean? So the Vikings started to have expectations. We started to have expectations for Sam Darnold.
And you see what happened? Now, you was preaching a little too fast. Now, I'm not sure the people in the chat didn't catch that, but that was a moment.
That was a moment a lot of people might have missed because we're talking about football, but that's something that could apply to life that I think a lot of people missed, but I didn't miss it because as soon as I heard it, you know, I keep that thing on me. Yeah, you keep it on you? Expectation.
Now, bring that to me again. I got to write it down.
Now, when it gets to the end of the year, what I'm going to do is I'm going to take all these quotes that I wrote down and I'm going to make a nightcap booklet called Ones Quotes so that people can apply it to life. Expectations.
Just get it to one more time. Yeah, it's the number one killer of dreams and goals.
Because here's the thing, Ocho. Sam Donald, nobody, because they're they're like, man, he was terrible with the Jets.
Well, he was terrible with Carolina. Well, we didn't get an opportunity to see him, really, at San Fran.
So everybody was expecting, remember the last two stops that they saw him, that he wasn't that good. Okay, so now he doesn't have any expectations.
The more you win, the more expectations come along with that.

So now, the last couple of games of the season,

Ochoa, we got an opportunity to get the number one seed.

Right.

Boom.

Oh, we're in the playoffs now.

Don't matter, blah, blah, blah.

Boom.

Yeah.

And you know, that playoff atmosphere is different now. That's a whole different ballgame than playing in the regular season.
Regular season, he looked phenomenal. It's a different type of pressure, again, the one word, expectation, that comes with being the quarterback.
Especially in that type of situation. So, I kind of understand in the team you are playing or had to play.
Yeah, but that's what happens when you have expectations, like I said. And I like to equate things to relationships because most of the people, especially in our chat, it's been a relationship.
Can relate to it, yeah. It's the moment you have expectations.
You see, when a couple's in marriage, there's an expectation. You're going to be faithful, I'm going to be faithful.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's the moment you have expectations. You see, when a couple's in a marriage, there's an expectation.

You're going to

be faithful, I'm going to be faithful.

I'm going to protect you, you're going to protect me.

Come on, man. I'm going to honor the vows

that we stood before God

and we swore to each other.

Now, I

have that expectation.

But hey, if you say, hey, what

you doing tonight?

I ain't going to be able to see you tonight.

And everybody, there's like expectations. I have no obligation.
You have no obligation to me. I see you when I see you.
Holler when I holler. And you know what I don't like about the analogy and the explanation that you're giving me right now? Is the marriage one normally doesn't work.
But the one where there's no expectations, hell, you'd be friends, you'd be sneaky links or whatever you want to call it for years and years and years and years all the way down the line because there are no expectations. So there's no failure or reason for anything to ever end.
But here's the sneaky part of the way to get you. You see, the number one cause that will cause a relationship to end is uncommunicated expectations.
You see, Ocho, she expected you to get her flowers and you didn't get them. Why didn't you tell me you wanted flowers? She expected you, Ocho, to plan this vacation.
Right. You didn't know she wanted to go on a vacation.
Uh-huh. Uncommunicated expectations.
I like that. Ocho thought, did you know what? Hey, she gonna do this thing for Father's Day, we gonna do it up, blah, blah, blah.
She didn't do it. You see, uncommunicated expectations, but again, Yeah.
Uncommunicated, but what's the end part? Expectations. I like that.
I haven't even heard that word before. Not used in this context and actually used together.
Uncommunicated expectations. I like that.
That's new for me. She has an expectation, but she didn't communicate them with you.
You have an expectation, but you didn't communicate them with her. So those

uncommunicated expectations

and what happens, a lot of times people

have what we call implosive

personalities. They

hold things, hold things, hold

things. There's only so much

you can hold before

it explodes.

The term, oh, you went postal.

Yeah.

Boom. And so now instead of just saying, well, you know, Chad, I thought that we were going to do this.
No. One month go by.
Two months go by. Three months go by.
Four months go by. And it's building.
Wait, months? It's not been communicated, so you don't know. It's building.
It's building.

It's building.

Boom.

Then it blows.

Yeah.

You been with me all this time?

You should have known.

You see?

How many times have you heard that, Ocho?

All the time.

You know what I like?

Yeah, all the time.

All the time because you've been with someone for a certain amount of time.

And you know women all the time.

Oh, I know you real well. I know you real well.
I knew what she was going to say. You can say something off.
Yeah. She can finish the sentence for you.
But all of a sudden, when it comes to certain stuff, oh, you didn't want to let me know. I didn't know you wanted that.
I didn't know you wanted. Oh, you can't read my mind? I threw you hints.
I gave you a sign a few weeks ago. A sign? What? Yeah.
In the commercial. I mentioned it when it came on TV.
Yeah. I missed the sign that God gave me, too.
Just say what you want. You should have told me.
You should have said, I missed the sign that God gave me. I should have left your ass alone about six months ago.
I missed that sign. But that's the thing.
I just think, you know, sometimes we take for granted and you've been in a relationship. Just tell me.
I'm one of these guys, Ocho. Just tell me.
If you want to do something, tell me. I don't have time.
I got too much ish on my plate to try to figure out what you want. You can just open your mouth and say, if you want to go here, say that.
If you want to eat that, say that. If you want this, say that.
But the guy me, you know what to talk about. You know what to talk about on them shows.
Uh-oh. What the? What they got to do with this? What they got to do with you telling me what you would like to do.
Mm-hmm. And so I think the thing is for the Vikings, they have an expectation now.
They see their offense. They realize that, hey, Jetta's going to be Jetta.
Hawkinson's been a Pro Bowl player. Addison, hey, the more opportunities we give him, the better he can be.
Offensive line, maybe they add a piece to the offensive line. But other than that, I think you owe it.
I mean, you draft the kid when you drafted him, and now you keep kicking the can down the road. And he's like, hold on, what I got to do? You took me, you told me I was the guy.
And now I get hurt. Okay, I get that.
I understand that. I got hurt.
There's nothing I can do about that, Ocho. But then I come back and y'all got another guy.
You tell me I got to wait another year? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would bother anybody, especially a quarterback, that got drafted, where he got drafted, expected to start, but due to injury, he had a small setback.
And now you've done all the work you need to do during the season last year to get yourself back, not only in playing shape physically and mentally, but now you talk about bringing somebody else in, another veteran presence, and telling me I got to take a backseat again? Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
What are we talking about here? So I'm happy for him. I'm glad that the organization decided to hurry up and nix the rumors that were out there about Aaron Rodgers coming in and let J.J.
McCarthy give him that sense of security mentally so he can go forward and know he's quarterback one and doesn't have to look over his shoulder. I agree.
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That's the pitch. If you want me to recruit, that's recruiting pitch Pittsburgh Steelers.
If you want to be a part of it, so be it. If you don't, no skin off my back.
Hey, there are certain teams. You look at the logo on the helmet.
They don't need no help. They don't need no recruiting pitch.

The product sells itself.

Again, I always use that.

I always use that example of Blue Magic in the movie American Gangster with Denzel Washington.

The product sells itself.

The Steelers historic franchise, them stars on the side of the helmet, it sells itself.

The other franchise, things are bigger in Texas

the product sells itself. You don't

need to do anything for it.

You don't have to recruit nobody. You don't have to

sell nobody nothing because it

sells itself. That wouldn't

be a recruitment Ocho. That would be begging

and that's what he wants. Thank you.

I like that. Because what did

the Jets do? The Jets got on

a private plane and flew flew to him yes sir I mean I don't know if you saw this but I had Young Miami on the podcast hey hey um I saw you shooting boy hey listen let me tell you something boy you were shooting 70% from the field that night. Ain't no 70%.
Ain't no 70%.

Don't do that.

I see you blushing, baby.

Nah, nah, nah, nah.

I wasn't shooting.

Hey.

Nah.

Yeah, you were shooting.

I'm just having great conversations.

That's all, no joke.

You know when you conversate, that's called shooting.

That depends on what you say.

It ain't what you say, it's how you say it.

It's all about your delivery, baby.

You was on point.

You was on point.

But let them tell it.

I was shooting that cash, dog.

I was shooting that Amber Rose. I was shooting that young Miami.
No, no, no, no, no. I was shooting that Kiki.
I was shooting that Megan Gap. I was shooting that Megan Gap.
I was like, what, damn? Can I have a conversation? Well, this was a little different now. You didn't shoot that Cash doll.
You didn't shoot it nobody else. Now, it's just the conversation and the energy and the aura and the chemistry in which you can't see, you can't see it because you actually in the room.

See,

I'm not in the room with you.

Huh?

Yeah.

I can see,

I can see the heat coming off the couch.

You hear me?

I can see the connection in the chemistry.

Now I'm not,

I'm talking about the type of chemistry when you play Twister,

that kind of chemistry where they say red and you got the crossover.

You hear me?

Yeah.

I seen it.

Now you can't see it.

So it's,

it's, it's my dude. I'm in the room.
Listen, I know you're in the room. That's why you can't see it.
So, I'm trying to tell you what I saw. Huh? Your wife, I was on point.
I'm talking about every bar was there. It was there.
It was a connection. There was chemistry.
You can't see it. So, you're doing that what you will and what you make.
I ain't doing nothing with it. I'm not doing anything with it.
I'm 1,000. Okay.

For me, I couldn't in good conscience.

Right.

It would be almost like I'm a therapist,

and some lady comes and talks about her problems,

and then I end up sleeping with her.

Or if I'm a lawyer, and I have a client,

and I know she's vulnerable. Right, right.
Nah, bro, I'm a lawyer and I have a client and I know she's vulnerable.

Right.

Right.

Nah, bro, I'm just having a conversation.

I mean, I love the fact.

Let me see.

Let me see.

You know, it's the problem.

It's the problem.

This is what happens when it comes to us.

When it comes to us, our people, we overthink things.

We overthink things and we try to analyze them and we put things in our head with a scenario like you just did.

Now, you just said a scenario. You gave a narrative that fit the way you thought this individual is based on the situation that you created.
Now, see, God always has a plan for us and he puts people in our life in certain situations and you're missing your blessing. That could be.
Now, young Miami chose to come do Club Shay ShayShe and sat down with you. Yes, yes, yes.
I'm grateful for every guest. Yeah, now listen, that could have been a sign from God.
You never know. Now, what I saw when I watched the interview, I said, boy, this is more than just a talk.
This is more than just a conversation. Now, I can see the energy.
I can see the aura. I can see the chemistry on camera.
Now, you't see it. And I'm telling you again.
Now listen to me when I talk to you. Because I wouldn't tell you.
And I wouldn't see you wrong. Because this wheel.
The wheel over here. Jesus got this one.
Okay. I'm telling you.
I'm not telling you. I'm not telling you to make no moves.
I'm just telling you. I can see it.
And I'm not glad. Oh Joe.
I know. I know.
I know we got people watching. You really don't want to say nothing.
No, no, no, no, no. It's not that there's not people watching.
It's just like, you heard what she said? Man, guys showing up with Croc Birkins. Yeah.
On the first date. Hold on, now.
Now you just talked about, I want somebody. You talked about Wage

just the other night now. You talked about

Birkins and G-Wagon. Now this is right

up your alley. This is what you were talking about.

Ocho, Ocho, that's a

build up. She said

Birkins now is a starter pack.

Right. I'm thinking LB.

I'm thinking Gucci, YSL.

I'm thinking Dior. Right.

She say Birkins.

Crock Birkins. Right.
That's a starter pack.

Right. Guys buying G-

Thank you. thinking Gucci, YSL.
I'm thinking Dior. Right.
She say Birkins. Croc Birkins.
Right. That's a starter pack.
Guys buying Jeep. Man, come on, man.
Y'all know. First of all, you say you want him young, huh? Didn't I tell you? Didn't I tell you you got to evolve? This is what you got to deal with when you want him young.
Huh? Right. Not only that, there's certain other areas, honk.
You're going to have to listen. You're going to have to update your resume.
Well to have to update your resume. Well, I'm going to have to go, I'm going to have to, let me tell you what I'm going to have to do.
I'm going to have to start going to church and get me somebody with a hat. Sitting in the deaconess corner.
You got me sitting bad. I ain't got no bread.
I can't, hey. Uh-uh.
It ain't me. I tell you what.
I tell you what. I tell you what.
Now, if you do me a solid, then you do me a favor.

Young Miami, that's my sis now.

You know, she from Miami.

She from Dade County now. I know she probably.

You know?

Okay.

I'm just making sure you know that's why I'm vouching for her.

That's why I'm vouching for a sister where I am.

No.

Look.

I know.

I know.

I know.

I know you're trying to keep her professional.

No, but I like the fact.

I like the fact that they come in and they open up and we have a conversation and we just be talking.

I mean, look, I mean, I had a great conversation because, like I said, I had no, I didn't ever think I would even meet any of these people.

So for me, I'm like, like, man, I can't believe you sitting across from me.

Right.

That's how I look at it.

I don't like, OK, let me let me let me let me let me try to throw a question here and try to get slick with it.

I ain't trying to do that.

You've got to see you got to do that.

Thank you. Look at them.
I don't like, okay, let me try to throw a question in here and try to get slick with it. I ain't trying to do that, man.
You've got to do that. You've got to say the things you're saying right now.
I'm saying the things I'm saying that you can't say that you might be thinking. See, that's what me being your other half is supposed to do.
I'm supposed to be able to see things that you can't see and then relate what I see that you should do

but you don't want to do it because you keep

you're keeping a certain level of professionalism

not even knowing the blessing

that's in your face.

Now let me tell you what I'm going to do.

Now you talk about, you understand

the prerequisites when it comes to

dealing with her. Now

if you want to lead up with one of them

Kronbergens, I've seen your 5200

to speed up the

Thank you. prerequisites when it comes to dealing with her.
Now, if you want to lead up with one of them Cronk Berkins,

I've seen your 5200 to speed up the process.

No, send me that because that's what you owe me.

Not because that's going to be a dial

payment on the damn bag. Send me that

because that's what the hell you owe me.

Y'all hear this bag? This bag talking about

oh, if you're going to get a Cronk Berkins,

I'll see your 5200 on it.

How you going to send me money?

How you going to send me something on it?

Why you going to owe me that?

Hey, hold on.

Let me give you a prime example before we move on to the next topic.

Before we move on to the next topic, understand the professionalism

in which you carry yourself, the structure and discipline in everything that you do.

That's what I love about you.

That's why we work so well, because I'm the complete opposite.

Yeah.

So, I'm going to give you a small example.

Okay.

There was a movie that came out not too long ago.

When, ah, what's the lady's name?

Jennifer Anderson was dating Brad Pitt.

They were a couple.

They were together.

And all of a sudden, Brad Pitt went off.

Mr. Mrs.
Smith.

Yeah.

Brad Pitt went off to do a movie with Angelina Jolie. With Angelina Jolie.
Mr. Mrs.
Smith. Yes.
Okay. Okay.
You see where I'm going with this? So, listen. It don't matter what you got going on in life.
Sometimes God puts you in situations. In this case, happened to be close.
Shay Shay would have sit down with

Brother Shannon Sharp

And Carisha

And the situation, to me, it was, to me, from the outside looking in, regardless of the professionalism that you're trying to instill in Carrie, because you have to, I saw a situation like that. Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, the chemistry, it was just undeniable.
And that's what I could see from afar where I was at now you do with that again now you do with that what you will and what you may I'm just speaking my piece and if I didn't tell you as your other half I wouldn't be your friend but that's okay we can go we can go on to the next topic speaking of Pittsburgh Nigel Harris says there is a lack of leadership with the Steelers. We just didn't know anything on offense, really.
We didn't have any identity. We had a young guy coming in at QB.
I really didn't have nobody to almost learn from on the offensive side. You like that he's saying that, Ocho? I mean, at the runner back position

and saying that you don't have anybody to learn,

you know, at that specific position,

I don't really like that.

I personally don't.

Because there's so many resources

once you're in that atmosphere

that you can learn from

where it doesn't have to actually be a person right there outside of your head coach teaching you because there's so much you can learn on your own they have film they have volts they have many goo gods of footage and stuff you can you can learn right you know yeah and to say something like and to say something like that with the tutelage that you're getting at the organization you're at, how could you even say something like that? Look at all the bats that have come through there. Yeah, but the veteran leadership wasn't there when he got there.
That's the thing that I'm very appreciative of. I had a guy, even though he was a year older than me, Steve Atwater, on how to be professional.
I had Dennis Smith, who had been there since 1981, who said, this is how you do things. This is how you be professional.
You be punctual. You be on time.
You practice hard. I saw John.
I saw all those guys, the veteran guys, and how they do things. Okay, me.
Now, Ocho, I got the younger guys coming in. That's my job for Burns, Foots, Rod Smith, the other guys, TD, Chalky, Howes,

now I go to Baltimore, now

the younger guys, some of the younger guys,

the Rays, and think Todd

Heath, that's what you do,

I think that's what he's talking about.

I think, I don't want to put words

in his mouth, guys, but I think that's what

he's talking about, like, how to

be professional, how to make sure I practice

doing everything that I possibly can

to make sure

that I'm maximizing

and what he's talking about, like, how to be professional, how to make sure I practice doing everything that I possibly can to make sure

that I'm maximizing

my time here.

And I'm very,

I'm very grateful

that I got to Denver.

I had guys,

look,

there are guys

that wanted to party.

I know that's not

why I was there.

Maybe, Ocho,

had I been a first

or second round pick,

maybe I wouldn't partake.

Probably not

because that's never been my MO.

But knowing that I'm

on thin ice

and I see Atwater and I see

Dennis Smith and I see those other guys, John,

and I see the way they're doing things,

I say, you know what? Yeah.

I need to be in that group.

Listen,

I understand it and I

truly don't understand where he's coming from in a sense because obviously, you understand what it took you to get here, right? It's the NFL Najee, Najee, you've been dreaming about this since you was a little shorty Since you were a little kid This was a dream of mine You have finally reached that pinnacle Of reaching what you've always dreamed of Then you, not only that, you're part of a historic franchise.

The Pittsburgh Steelers.

I'm not getting somewhere and worried about veteran

leadership when I understand

the work it took me to get here.

I'm already aligned with the

end goal. All my

goals reset themselves once I make

it. I'm not worried about no veteran

leadership.

I know what I need to do based

on the goals that I set for myself

personally.

It don't matter who's in the room.

It don't matter who was there before me.

This shit, I need to get

done. And I got to

focus. And everything I do

has to align with my end goal

regardless of whether I have a veteran presence

or not. At my specific position, I want to be one of the best to play this game ever.
You talk about no veteran leadership. Look at the players that came before you that played the exact position, the Jerome Bettises, the Willie Parkers.
I mean, I'm sure you're going to, the James Connors. Yeah, but I need them there, Ocho.
See, you're talking about a pro. A pro is the occupation in which you do it.
Right. That's a professional.
A pro is how you go about that. You see the difference between college and pros.
What do they do? They get your ass up. They make sure you go to study hall.
Yeah. They make sure you do X, Y, and Z.
They make sure you're in the weight room. Who does that when you go to the NFL? You.
And it helps when you see somebody that that's a pro. Yeah.
Because once you get there, we're all professionals. But to be a pro, it's something to be said.
For me, that's just me. Now, hey, to each his own.
But there's something to be said for me to have veterans. I remember Mark Jackson would take me up on his wing and say, hey, you know, I see you ran that route, but I'm not so sure how to run it like that because blah, blah, blah.
X, Y, Z. I said, okay, I appreciate that, man.
He pulled me to the side. Hey, hey, threaten that guy a little bit more.
Hey, you got your head around a little too far. It's little stuff like that, Ocho.
I mean, stuff that you can't see. Yeah.
Because you used to get, hey, Ocho, we used to use God God-given ability getting open. Yeah.
It'd take more than that in the NFL. Yeah.
Because all them junkers got God-given. Hey, God touched all them.
Yeah. I got you.
I understand it. Now, I wish I could talk to Nade to get better context and get a little bit more in depth on what he means by it.
And maybe I'm thinking a little different because of my approach. I wouldn't worry about no veteran leadership.

I understood, okay, I finally got here.

I know what my goals are.

I want to make sure everything I do is going to align with the angle

to make sure I become, at some point, one of the best to ever play,

not just for the Bengals, but to play in the history of this game in general.

I'm going to leave my imprint, whether people like me or not.

Then I think about also, hell, for the people in the chat, no veteran leadership. Where did I stay the first two years in the NFL? Where I lived at.
I'm locked in. I don't care who's there.
I know what I got to do. I know what it takes to make sure I'm able to be consistent.
This has a rookie.

Yeah. You know what? I might

not have better impressions, but I'm going to do the

things I think I need to do

to make sure I give them

the best of me.

Giving you the best of me.

You know, it's a part

of me, I think, I think Najee doesn't

feel like the Steelers really appreciated

him. Yeah.
Because a guy

that's just barely rushing for a thousand yards

is not going to get the appreciation

Thank you. spectacular.
You don't look at him like, oh my God. You don't think that when he gets the ball, see, at least Saquon gets the ball, you think, man, he might hit his head on the goal pole.
Or Derrick Henry going to end the game with 150, maybe 200 yards. That's not what you get from him.
I thought he was a good back. I don't think he changes life.
He's not a guy that's going to change your life. For me.
Now in college, he was sensational.

Yeah.

He a bell cow.

Three down back.

I like him.

Oh, Joe.

Jamar was not.

Jamar Chase signed his deal.

Tee Higgins

signed his deal.

They had their press conference.

Jamar was not happy

with the reporter

calling Tee

receiver number two.

Let's take a listen

And then... Jamar Chase signed his deal.
Tee Higgins signed his deal. They had their press conference.
Yeah, we rich. Jamar was not happy with the reporter calling Tee receiver number two.
Let's take a listen to what he had to say. If you were to leave, you would have probably been wide receiver one.
When you see it put out there that you're the highest paid wide receiver two, how does that do you? 1-8. You're saying what's put out there? Fixing it, 1-8.
Yes, sir. You know, bro, I don't even look at it like that.
You know what I mean? I kind of wish they wouldn't have put it out there like that because now that's why everybody's here on the highest pay, too. Let's just say I'm at a place where, you know, they value me and, you know, they respect me.
And I just – I'm a good player, so let's just say that. Not the highest receiver too or anything like that.
You know what I mean? So let's just say he's another great receiver, Bengals receiver that, you know, that puts in the work and got his head down and just grinds. I mean, I've been saying it for a very long time, man.
I've been saying it for a very long time. Every time I talk about the Bengals duo, I say it all the time and I've been saying it for a very long time.
I've been saying it for a very, very long time.

Every time I talk about the Bengals duo,

I say it all the time.

And I've been saying it for a very long time.

You and I even went back and forth about it, you know,

continuously on here.

I said,

he's a wide receiver one that just happened to be on a,

on the team with another number one.

There are a few instances,

a few,

a few other teams that also benefit benefit from this situation. I'm not sure what the reporter is doing.
And the reporter who understands the game of football and has been able to watch T and Chase together should know that and know better, that he's a one. If he were to leave there, he would have been paid as a number one because that's exactly what he is.
It just

so happens he have Tamar Chase

on the other side of him. But anyway.

Well, we look at, we look at,

let me ask you a question. Yeah.

When Pastor Tane lined up, who Pastor Tane

going to? He going to Chase or he going to T.

Higgins? If he's

following, he's going to Chase.

Okay. Sauce Gardner.

Stingley.

If he's following, he's going to chase. Okay.
Sauce Gardner, Stingley. If he's following, he's going to chase.

So why would...

I understand what you're saying, right?

Because that's the thing now, Ocho.

Right.

Hell, there used to be no QB one.

Right.

It was the starting quarterback.

Right.

It was no QB.

It was no wide receiver one.

Right.

It was wide receiver.

It was Michael Irvin, Sterling Char wide receiver one. It was wide receiver.

It was Michael Irvin, Sterling Charm, Jared Rice, Randy, blah, blah, blah, Keough.

Now they got all these things, wide receiver one, wide receiver two.

Hold on, hold on.

Hold on.

Ain't no all now.

There are only a few teams like that.

The Eagles, that's wide receiver 1A and 1B.

The Bengals, that's wide receiver 1A and 1B.

What they did over there with Kuba Kopp and Puga Nakua,

that was wide receiver 1A and 1B.

Now what they will do is they will take some of your production and your opportunities away from you and make it look like there's something wrong with you and make it look like wide receiver 2 when there's really nothing wrong with you if you understand the business and how they work your ass up out of there. This is why I look at it, Ocho.
Talk to me. Why didn't they give, if Jalen Waddle was the equivalent of Tyreek, why didn't they give him the same type of money that he gave Tyreek? If Devontae Smith was the equivalent receiver, so why did they give T.
Higgins $40 million? You know you can't work like that, now. He wide receiver one.
Wide receiver one, get wide receiver one money. Right, yeah.
Listen, we can argue, We can't work like that. He wide receiver one.
Wide receiver one, get wide receiver one money.

Right, yeah.

Listen, we can argue to it, but listen,

normally, when we talk about wide receiver

one and we talk about wide receiver two,

there is an enormous drop-off

in skill and talent.

Enormous. Now you got two receivers

that get it done two

totally different ways.

Are you saying there's

no drop-off? Hold on. I want to make sure I'm Thank you.
enormous. Now you got two receivers that get it done totally, two totally different ways.

Are you saying there's

no drop-off? Hold on. I want to make sure I'm

Yeah, there's a drop-off. I said enormous.

No, no, no. Extravagant.

Extravagant

drop-off from your one

and your two. There's a reason the person

is a one, and there's a reason the

other person is a two. Now you got

two receivers. Let me finish.
You got two receivers that are really really good at what they do. High points short intermediate long balls.
Now both of them do all of them really well. I think one of the few things that Chase might have on run after the catch is that goddamn run after the catch my god that's also Chase, his background in playing running back when he was younger.
That's why he looked like that. Every time he get the ball, he looked like a damn running back.
He bouncing off people, playing ping pong. I mean, listen, you touch me, I'm going down.
You touch me, I'm going down. I'm making a're saying.
I'm glad he got paid. I think he earned it right.
I mean, the way he played, he had been exemplary the whole while there. They made him play under the tag.
He played under the tag. He caught Nate, but he still had double-digit touchdown.
He was going to be well over 1,000 yards. And so they compensated him.
I love when teams reward their players for work put in. Now, Ocho, I've already paid you for what you've done.
Now, for me to give you this money, they're not paying Chase for the Triple Crown because they paid him that. They're paying him for moving forward.
We believe you're going to put up numbers equivalent to that, if not better. I can't pay.
I can't. How do I? I paid you.
It wasn't like he didn't get a salary, Ocho. And now we got to make up for what we didn't give him.
He got paid. Right.
With that being said, I believe Chase, they believe Chase is going to put up numbers equivalent to, if not better than what he put up last year. So I'm going to pay you accordingly.
Yeah, yeah. And, uh...
That was a good one. And he's earned it.
Yeah, absolutely. Gee, he's earned it.
I'm glad he didn't have to go. I'm glad he didn't have to go to get some, because so many times we see guys put, oh, put the work in, put the work in, and then they gotta go

somewhere else to get rewarded.

To get the appreciation that I should've

got from the club that drafted me. You thought

enough of drafting me. You know, that's why I tell people a lot

of times what I love about Dan

Reeves. He was smart enough to draft

me, but somehow forgot to cut me.

The Bengals,

oh, you really loved him. You did

your homework. You took him in the second round.
But now, he gives you all those great years and you're going to let him move on? Right. And you're going to let him...
Because he ain't in his prime yet. So now, the next four years, he's really going to be his prime.
And you're going to let somebody else reap that benefit? Because you keep? Yeah. So I was glad they finally...
You know what the funny funny thing I think a lot of people haven't talked about, they really don't know, is the person that's pulling the strings behind closed doors, the person with the power, the person who runs the show and is making the calls, is really nigh. Yeah, for sure.
You know, a lot of people ain't talking about that. We talk about T going here, no matter what I said, no matter what people on ESPN, no matter what people have said on X or Twitter for that matter.
The person behind the closed doors who went up the management and probably said, listen, I don't know what you need to do, what you need to do with the numbers on my contract, or what you need to restructure. But uno and five, I need that that back come hell out of water

if you understand Joe Burrow and how he conducts

his business and the way he goes about it

that man young bull

ain't playing not by them two

you know what I love Ocho

the fact that he was outspoken about it

a lot of quarterbacks like yeah we'd love to have

him back but that's not my call

right

he's like they've earned

they've earned the right

and he said the same thing about Trey Hendrickson

Thank you. yeah, we'd love to have him back, but that's not my call.
Right. Oh, no, no.
Oh, it's definitely your call. He's like, they've earned the right.
And he said the same thing about Trey Hendrickson. It seems like they're a little bit more open to trading Trey than potentially bringing him back.
But that's something we'll discuss in a later date and time. Right.
But he came on first take, and he was very, hey, I want them to pay Chase. Chase has earned that.
I want them to pay T. He's a valuable piece to what we do.
And I want him back. None of that, hey, yeah, we'd love to have him back, but, you know, I don't make that decision.
I'm just a quarterback. No.
No. So I love that part about him.
Oh, Joe, a key factor in the Jamar Chase-T Higgins negotiation with Joe Burrow's influence. Beyond the public comments, Burrow applied private pressure making it clear deals must get done for both.
If since it failed, it could have gotten very, very interesting. Yeah, listen, I'm glad that we just brought that up and I just said it ahead of time.
Obviously, I wouldn't have said it when all this stuff was going on, but if you understand, I've watched Joe now for a few years. I've seen him up in person.
I've heard the stories about the way he conducts himself and goes on about his business and his approach to the game and how serious he takes it. In order to continue playing at an elite level, you have to have elite talent around you.
And you understand that, especially offensively.

In order to keep that going and continue to give us a chance offensively to get where we want to go.

We already know what the end goal is every time you compete and you play on a Sunday. In order to get there, especially San Francisco, I need my two.

I need my uno.

I need my five.

And I don't know what we need to do. I don't know what we need to do upstairs.
But we need to make it happen. Yeah.
That's it. I think sometimes that quarterbacks be like, I got my money to hell with the rest of this stuff.
I ain't got nothing to do with me. That's a cop-out, Ocho.
It's a cop-out to say, well, I don't get to make that decision. Yeah.
I've heard that before. And you hear that a lot.
I mean, you know, Joe making $55 million, he's like, hey, y'all fend for yourself. But he knows a part of him getting that $55 million was one in five.
There it is. You said it right there.
Now, you come in there playing around and bring somebody else in that can't do a one in five do? He'd understand. He'd understand.
You're going to be upset. I mean, he's been mad.

I mean, he's pretty much been throwing a chase for what?

Five years?

Had him in college a year?

Missed him?

Yeah.

And then picked him right back up.

Back up, yeah.

So with that being said, I'm glad these guys got it done.

Congratulations, guys.

Well-deserved.

The Lions have proposed significant change to the NFL playoff seating that

would largely use regular season record as the guiding principle rather than division championships. Under the proposal, the division winner with the conference best record will still receive the number one overall seed.
But after that, teams would be stacked by their records regardless whether they won the division or receive wildcard berths. That approach could significantly impact the NFC North, which fielded three playoff teams last season, the Lions 15-2, Vikings 14-3, Green Bay 11-6.
The Lions received the number one seed, but the Vikings were seeded number five and the Packers number seven. Based purely on the record, the Vikings would have been the number three seed.
The Packers would have been the number five seed. Ocho, do you understand this is an anomaly season? Yeah.
It doesn't happen like this. We've never seen a team, two teams in the same division, have this kind of record.
record. And what are the chances of it happening again?

What do you think? It's not likely.

It's not like maybe another

decade, 20 years, 30 years.

Yeah.

Listen, one thing about it,

it was great to see. It was entertaining.

It was very entertaining for that

NFC. But a chance

of it actually happening again where you need to

have this format even be put in place, it is not likely unless you're playing a video game. I hate the fact that we take an anomaly and then try to make wholesale changes.
Because you're trying to make a wholesale change. So what's the importance of winning your division? If there's no value, Yo, what's your importance uh of of winning of winning winning winning your division if there's no value so if i can't help it that you're in that division right so if i win my division now you're gonna punish me because i won my division with 10 wins and you happen to have 13 wins in another division that somebody won 15 games.

So why even have divisions?

Let's just say, okay, y'all the NFC,

y'all the AFC, just play,

and then whoever has the best record will stack it.

You don't even need a division.

Because now you're telling me division's not important.

So we're going to base it on record.

The best overall record, you get to buy.

The next best record, you the two seed.

Next best record, we don't need division.

Stop trying to take isolated incident and make wholesale changes.

Bro, now you're making a seed like, well, if we weren't the five seed, bro, you played bad.

It's okay. That's just me, Ocho.
Former Bucs offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich is joining Colorado's coaching staff. Coach Bryant introduced Leftwich to the team Wednesday.
The retired quarterback brings yet more pro experience to the Boulder, Colorado. The Buffs hired Hall of Fame running back Marshall Falk in February to coach the running backs.
Hall of Fame defensive tackle is a senior quality control analyst for the defensive side of the football as well. He worked with the D-line.
I don't know what happened. I really don't know what happened in Tampa.
Because he went from a guy that had an opportunity to get a head coaching job to being out of the league. Yeah.
Out of the league. Listen, I'm not going to go there.
Byron Lefkowitz was a good quarterback during this time.

What he was able to do in Tampa with Brady was phenomenal.

Obviously, being able to coach one of the greatest of all time,

if not the greatest coach of all time.

Right, and he called plays.

I thought they were one of the guys that called plays.

Yeah, he was, yeah.

But if you notice, every other offensive coordinator

that has ever coached Tom Brady, what has he got in the NFL, Ocho? A head coaching job. Charlie Weiss, Bill O'Brien, Josh McDaniel.
Three play callers got jobs. One guy, Bill O'Brien, never won a Super Bowl with him he lost he was he lost this guy won a Super Bowl calling plays yep but you know how they would look at it they would look at it like Tom Brady regardless of who who was calling plays for you was off you'd call him play for Tom Brady.
So regardless... Was he not the quarterback for Charlie Rice? Was he not the quarterback for Bill O'Brien? Was he not the quarterback for Josh McDaniel? It got so bad, Josh McDaniel got three, got another job.
Hold on. He got the job.
Hold on. Ocho, he got the job at Denver.
We know what he did. We don't need to bring that up.
Got the job at Indy and said, you know what, via facts. And said, nah, I ain't gonna take the job.
I'm gonna stay here. And then Wynn got another job.
Right. But there's a difference.
You understand what, you know what, I'm not making this show about this. I mean, the writing is on the wall.
The proof is in the pudding. You can see it for yourself.
This ain't the first time this has happened. It's happened continuously over and over and over.
I don't need to say it. Open your eyes.
Okay.

so I'm happy

I'm happy

for him

I'm happy

for him

I'm happy

for him

getting the

position there

Marshall Falk

is there

obviously

Warren Sapp

is there

the environment

that there

that Prime

is constructing

for the players

and the young

men that are

there

obviously

preparing them

to be able

to play

at the level

at the next

level

if

Thank you. The environment that Prime is constructing for the players and the young men that are there are obviously preparing them to be able to play at the next level if they get a chance or opportunity to make it and have them obviously the tutelage from players that played at the highest level.

Some were immensely great, like Prime and Warren Sapp, and you have some that had good careers, you know, and you know, and your Byron leverages and he can help the quarterbacks being that not only did he play the position but he also coached some at the best position and also won a ring if I'm not mistaken. Who? Byron? Yeah.
But they lost that year with the Bucs. No, he coached, what you called Brady yeah that's what I say they beat the Chiefs yeah you got a ring okay yeah I'm right I'm right I stand corrected okay nah nah nah look guys want to get they want to get pro ready coach, Pat Shermer is the OC.

Marshall, running back.

Yeah.

Hall of Fame, Sap, Hall of Fame, D-line.

He can get to the quarterback.

Hey, he's put together a great staff. Guys that if you have the ability.

Now, just because you go to Colorado, if you ain't got the ability to play in the NFL, I don't give a damn who coaching. Right.
If you can do it or you can. Now, they might help you with some technique and some little stuff, but you got to have the ability to go get it done.
Yes, sir. Yeah.

Whose house?

Prime's house.

Prime shows off his backyard.

Ocho, check this out.

Let me see it.

Let me see it.

Let me see it.

What?

Oh, that's the one in Texas, huh?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I'd be doing too much.

If it wasn't as late as it was, I would call him. I would call him tomorrow.

Yeah.

You do it too much.

That's nice.

Oh, that's nice.

And I would tell him, I would go fishing in one of the pods

before you realize I'm going to have the face fried up on the back.

Because he make you throw the fish back on you.

I would fry him up.

He do?

He make you put him back?

Yeah.

Yeah, he make you put them back.

He'll let you keep them.

That's a good one.

That's funny.

I mean, at some point, the fish got to understand what's going on

and stop biting on the goddamn line.

Unfortunately, they're not going to be able to do that.

Especially if you catch them while they bedding.

Oh, yeah.

Because, hey, they bedding.

Hey, that's free food.

Or sometimes they try to take that and get that out of their bed.

Yeah.

Jalen Milrow officially runs unofficially 4-3-7 in the 40-yard dash at Alabama Pro Day.

Ocho, check out this video.

Hey, I like it.

You pick him up and put him down, Ocho.

Hey, you putting him up and down, huh?

One foot in front of the other.

I don't care nothing about that.

And for a quarterback, I don't care nothing.

I'll see you next time. Hey, I like it.
You pick him up and put him down, don't you? Hey, you're putting him up and down, huh? One foot in front of the other. I don't care nothing about that.
And for a quarterback, I don't care nothing. I saw the greatest quarterback currently run 5-2-5.
Uh-huh. Yeah, 5-2-5.
It don't mean nothing. But also, being able to run 4-3-7, it means something, especially in today's game.
With all the dual-threat quarterbacks that we do have that are elite, a la Josh Allen, a la Gilmar Jackson. Tell me the fastest quarterback to ever won a Super Bowl.
And the fastest quarterback in the Hall of Fame. I'll wait.
Go ahead. No, I mean, you're right about that.
You're right about that. But I'm just telling you, I'm giving you a different perspective I'm giving you a different perspective On how it's helped immensely Being able to do two things And just not be one dimensional It's okay to be able to have a quarterback That can use his legs Look at the growth of Lamar Jackson Look where he is now Look how far how far he's come.
It ain't even about running no more. I'm running only if I have to.
Because I've become now, I'm a passer to the ball. You know? So, Brother Milrow being able to run that fast is great.
It's a good thing. But had you seen what he could do with his arm? Not nearly consistent enough.
Listen, at some point, at some point you will be. I just want you to tell me who the fastest guy to ever win the Super Bowl and the fastest guy in the Hall of Fame.
That's all I'm waiting for. There's a lot of fast ones in the Hall of Fame.
You fast. Who? You in there? No, at quarterback.

Quarterback?

Mm-hmm. Let me think.
Hold on. Johnny United's in the Hall of Fame, ain't he? Yes.
Yeah, Johnny ran 4-4. In the 20 that's my consistency I mean that's great um hey at the end of the day Ocho gotta throw it alright Ocho it's time for our last segment of the evening.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. We getting off already? Yeah.
Sheldon Pope. Oh, no.
Time for Q&A. Come on.
Give us our graphics. We just got on.
I done took a five-hour nap. I got energy, and you leaving.
Sheldon Pope said, oh, you enjoy playing Risha Roulette. I did.
I did. See, see, see, see, see.
I did. It's a good game.
It's a good game. I can see how that game can get your ass in trouble.
Yeah. Especially you, hey, a group of y'all around, you know, hey, Ocho, y'all, you go, you and your buddies, and y'all and women in Vegas, or y'all in Cancun or Jamaica.
Uh-huh. Yeah.
Some freaky ish about to happen. Dark Barnes says, uh, got a question for Ocho.
In his opinion, who was better being a receiver duo, Jamar and T or him and TJ? Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.
And, and obviously we didn't throw the ball. We, we are.
Yeah, it's a good one. We didn't throw the ball.
Yeah, I did throw the ball. Not like that.
Man, stop playing. Now, you know, we ain't throw the ball like that now.
Well, you see what them boys doing today. They, they,? They run 100 plays and 98 of them throwing.
You know? But listen, I love myself and TJ, man. I love us to death.
You're supposed to. Yeah, as much as I love Jamar and T and praise them like I'm a preacher, I will always take me and TJ over there no matter what.
And that's what all due respect to what them boys doing and are going to continue to do for that franchise. But it'll always be me and TJ, boy.
Ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing like it.
And people wouldn't understand it, especially the younger generation, unless you were there. You had to be there and would have had to see it live and in person to understand.
Dr. Frank L.
Bellamy said, speak of church, the way you were citing Job on first take was awesome. You sure you don't want to be a preacher? The pulpit would be rocking.
Ocho, Ocho could be your deacon. Yeah, yeah.
Hey, put me in the pulpit now. Yeah.
Yeah. I, I,

when I was a little boy,

the pastor of the church told my grandmother,

say,

Mary,

that boy has a way with words.

He said a lot of people can talk,

Mary.

He said,

but very few people can speak.

That boy can speak.

And, you know what I'm saying?

I hope you're going like hearing a great speaker. To go back and listen to Dr.
Dr. King, just hear him speak, to hear Churchill, to hear him speak, to hear JFK and to hear him speak.
And Tekashi Coates, to hear him speak. There's some, there's some people that have a voice.
And because in order to be a great orator, you must have a cadence. Yeah.
There's a sequence that your voice can elevate and rise. I mean, rise and then fall.
If you hear, if you hear Dr. King, just listen for the cadence.
Yeah. In which he speaks.
That's everything. You know, you know who else you can hear it in recently who that in that cadence

Obama

yeah

if you listen to Obama

you can hear that cadence

as well with him

when he goes high

and goes low

and he's able to

the ability to

command the ear

mm-hmm

he got it

it's a gift

yeah

it's a gift

mm-hmm

Malcolm X

yeah yeah it's a gift Malcolm X yeah a no rush 75 no jive I'm alive leg of the vibe J213 who is one person dead or alive you want to sit down and have a conversation with, excluding family? Oh, Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra.
I mean, if you know me and my love for music, the arts, and dance, and theater, and all the things that I like, Sinatra. For what he stood for, you know, in a time when you really shouldn't be standing for it.

If you,

if you know what I mean,

you know?

Yeah.

And man,

the opportunities that he gave people of color during his time,

man,

Sinatra,

I would,

I would love,

and still to this day,

I have,

I have an appreciation for him,

his music and everything he's done,

not only as an artist,

but away from,

you know, music as well. Some of the things he fought for and the opportunities he gave others.
Refusing to play in certain places unless you know who was also afforded the same opportunities in those rooms. Oh man, Sinatra.
Now there's so many other great ones. I'm just telling you about mine.
Oh my goodness. I mean, for me, probably Dr.
King, Malcolm X. Yeah.
I've always been drawn to people that could speak. Great orators.
And Prince. Prince? Prince.
Yeah. If Reezyzy who cares, one, two if Joe gonna get hurt cause the Bengals had to get PE teachers and gym bros for the O-line Hey, who we got for our O- again? P.E.
teachers and gym bros. Do the Broncos have the most stacked roster in the AFC West now at the free agency? Who do you think the Denver is going to want at pick 20? Well, you got your quarterback.
Yeah. They going receiver?

You think so?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Okay.

Absolutely.

They going to get them playmaker off that board, man.

I can tell you that.

Because I like Sutton.

Yeah, I like Sutton too.

I like Sutton, but they need another.

Maybe get one of them tight ends.

Hmm. I like Sutton too.
I like Sutton, but they need another. Maybe get one of them tight ends.
Yeah.

Got it?

I mean,

Omarion Hampton running back,

North Carolina,

is what Mark Draft say,

because they let Javante Davis go.

Williams, Javante Williams.

Williams, yeah.

Another Carolina kid. Brody Burton, Uncle Sam Vista Ocho, no licking, no sucking toes, no farting around me.
Blake of the five. Jeradiah Williams, Uncle Ocho, my birthday was yesterday.
I'm 45, but I don't look a day over 38. Jeradiah, thank you.
Happy birthday, bro. Happy birthday, boy.
Happy birthday. Well, we in the same boat, too.
I don't look a day over 25. People tell me that all the time in person.
Boy, you look so young, boy. What's your skincare routine? So I told him I ain't really got none.
I just eat right. I don't know what this is.
Save for tomorrow. Fran Brown makes his players say 40% of...
Okay. I was going to say, what is this? Oh, okay.
Okay. Oh, yes.
I didn't even see that. He said save for tomorrow.
Guys, that concludes this. Hey, it's been a long day for you, boy.
Yeah. Because I was in Savannah.
We just got back. Watched the game.
I'm up on the plane again tomorrow morning. Car picking me up at 530.
Where you going? I'm headed to Charleston. Okay.
Okay. What you doing? You got a liquor signer? Yeah, I'll get back tomorrow

night and I'll be better because

I ain't got anything to do Saturday, I mean

Friday. So, your boy

be ready to go, but I gotta get

at least three hours of sleep. Yeah, well, listen,

now don't be surprised if I

pop up on you at one of them signers, man.

I'm in Miami, you ain't pop

up on nothing. Well, I wasn't here.
I wasn't here then. I'm just saying, I then.
I'm just saying. On your little tour, if I pop up in a whole La Porte outfit, like a costume.
Hey, I'm coming to Charleston. I hope they got some good breakfast.
Somebody leave me something in the chat. Tell me in Charleston where they got a good breakfast.
Because I want some good old Southern style grits. I want some bacon.
I want bacon crispy, scrambled eggs. You know, hey, just like that.
I mean, I like pancakes, but I ain't got to have them. Grits, eggs, sausage, or bacon.
Let your boy know where I need to go. McDonald's? I ain't got no damn grits in no McDonald's.
I ain't got no damn grits at no McDonald's.

I got no damn grits at no McDonald's.

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