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Conan chats with Eugenia in Madrid about how to help her Irish-American boyfriend get more comfortable with Public Displays of Affection. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan? Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply

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Eugenia Fernandez de los Ronderos Jiménez. That's me.
That's too long. Too long.
I always keep traveling the customs when I try to get to see my family in the U.S. Okay, say tell me how to pronounce your name.
I want to make sure I say it correctly. Eugenia.
Eugenia, I am conando. Encantada, conando.
Let's see. Tell us, Eugenia, tell me a little bit about yourself.
Where are you right now in the world? So right now I'm in madrid spain from my house and i work here as a

physician resident in a hospital oh okay uh very good you work in a hospital and um you take care of people that's very good i like that and uh you mentioned that you have american relatives Is that true?

Yeah.

My fiance, he's American.

He's Irish-American.

Sean Dempsey.

Pretty. that you have American relatives? Is that true? Yeah, my fiancé, he's American.
He's Irish-American. Sean Dempsey.
Irish-American name. I like how your accent dropped on that.
Wait, your fiancé is Irish-American and his name is Sean Dempsey. Here in Spain, people call him Chong-Chan.
Seeing if they they see it written because people cannot really pronounce his name so yeah well i'm sure anything's okay with sean yeah he goes by juan sometimes when he gets tired yeah guess what really say his name right the irish we just don't care as long as we're welcomed in and someone has something to drink and something to eat, we're fine. You know, call me whatever you want.
And that's how it is here. So tell me a little bit, how did you meet this guy? We met in 2016.
He went to study abroad. He came actually to my hometown, Seville, in southern Spain.
A lot of Americans go to study there abroad, actually. And we fell kind of in love, but it didn't make any any sense i was 19 and i was studying medicine after a year we met again and that's how we decided like even one year we couldn't meet anyone that beat that well i don't think it's okay eugenia i don't think it's that you couldn't meet anyone i just think he was the special one he was the one he was the one the one.
I don't think you should go around telling him. He's fine.
I waited and when it just, no one came along. You'll do.
You'll do. He's fine.
He's got used to the Spanish way of being in a relationship with Spanish women. So he's fine.
Okay. Well, what are the differences, say, between a Spanish woman and an Irish Catholic guy? What's the thing that, what's the biggest difference between you? How have you had to change him? That's tough, because I think we actually have a lot of things in common, like Southern Spanish people and Irish people.
But probably, like, the drinking culture

sounds weird,

but, like,

we can start drinking

at 12,

in the noon,

like, 12 p.m.

and then

drinking at 4 a.m.

after being the whole day

with our friends,

eating and everything.

But he and you guys,

like,

struggle with that

type of culture

when you get smashed in 30 minutes. You guys, well, wait a minute.
Hold on a second. Let's clean up a few things here.
Eugenia, if that's even your real name, you're saying that you guys can start drinking at noon and you can go to 4am and it's no problem, right? That you can tolerate it. You're fine.
You pace yourselves. And are you saying that what is, what does he and his family do? That's different.
Just, uh, I mean, it's less, yeah. Start earlier, way earlier, like breakfast early, finish before lunch.
And, and okay, Sean may have a problem. Yeah, this might not be an Irish thing.
Yeah, I don't think it's that. So he's starting at breakfast and then at noon he sort of passes out.
He's been four years in Spain. He's got a rehab since.
What? Oh shit. He's been four years in Spain,

so already living here with me.

So he came along with the culture here

and now he's totally fine.

Oh, okay.

We thought you meant he went to rehab

and suddenly we weren't laughing.

And it wasn't a joke.

But now that we've learned he hasn't gone to rehab,

we think it's really funny again.

Yeah, because he's language barrier.

And now it's fantastic. Now it's fun when you can laugh about it um what about okay drinking aside what are other things that maybe uh were different about the two of you do you know what i mean yeah i think the the biggest main thing at the beginning of our relationship was pda we don't't have that in Spain or Europe.
What do you mean? You don't have... Public display of affection.
You don't show affection publicly or you do? We do and we don't care about what other people think. So it was very violent for him at the beginning.
He was raised part of his life in the midwest oh boy so oh yeah but then

he taught me about that and i learned to respect it because it's a cultural difference at the at the beginning i thought he didn't like me because he was like kind of oh no let me explain something to you uh eugenia um i think it is a very irish thing which is we are kind of uptight and we don't show a lot of public displays of affection. Whereas, of course, I know it's a...
But when I think about Spain, I think of people being very open with their emotions. And so...
You don't even know what to do with your hands right now. Oh, you want me to simulate? You want to sit me to...
No, I don't want... No, okay then.
Then shut up. You're trying to find the word.
You can't even do private displays of affection. He's speaking Spanish.
He's got a plumbing push. Eugenia, let me explain something to you.
I've been married for 21 years and my wife has never seen me naked. Never.
When I take a shower, I'm wearing a business suit. This is her choice, though, right choice though right that she well she saw me once and she said i demand that you wear a five-piece suit i didn't even know what a five-piece suit was but eugenia there is a difference which is we're more repressed and i think but i've learned i've, I'm heavily medicated.
I also drink a lot. And, uh, I live now in, in Southern California and I've changed a little bit.
And I think I could talk to Sean and I could help him with his fear of public displays of affection because you're a very beautiful woman. I think he should be able to embrace you openly.
What is that? You are so awkward. Oh my God.
It's like you're holding a tuba. That is so awkward.
Well, listen, I'm assuming she's wearing a parka. It's cold.
Sometimes it gets cold. Is it a hug? Are you hugging? Yeah.
What are you doing with your hands? I'm sorry. I don't know how to act this out.
Eugenia. I'm going to talk to you.
No, no, no. You're a very beautiful woman.
I was just I don't want to put even on your imaginary self. I don't want to get too close because of I think that's, you know, the whole me too thing.
I'm being very showing even an imaginary way. I'm showing a lot of respect and distance.
I'm giving you your space. But anyway.
Primarital counseling will be good for Sean, I think. Maybe you could show him a little bit the ways.
What? He would show you? You want me to show Sean, give him some premarital counseling on how to be more affectionate in public? No. Maybe it could be a two-way kind of relation where maybe your wife will be also happy that he tells you some tips about it since you're also struggling.
No, no, no. Listen, we're not getting my wife involved in this, okay? You know, and it's not a two-way if my wife's involved uh listen eugenia um i feel for sean because i know what he's going through we are an uptight people and so what you're saying is and i'd like you to actually say this you think do you think that i could come and help sean with his public display of affection issues i think you'd be very helpful if you with sean and his public display of affection issues? I think it would be very helpful with Sean and his public display of affection issues.
You think I could maybe help him and coax him to be a little more of a Latin lover, so to speak? Yeah, like a coach. Like a kind of a coaching experience.
Eduardo's laughing really hard, right? That's okay. I'm getting what I need to get.
Do you just be someone that can speak the dead language of Latin? No, I know exactly what I'm doing and I won't be pulled off track by you idiots. I went to a party recently.
It was a rager by my friend Rodman. Yeah, yeah.
He had the tunes bumping. It was really fun and it was special to me because when you get together with good friends, good chums, amigos, pals from the past, celebrating important occasions means more moments with the coolest people in your life.
For me, that's got to be Rodman. I have so many cool people.
I have so many cool. I'm just like, so cool.
I do. I have the coolest friends.
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So when is this uh wedding taking place it's march 15th next year in seville okay um i'd very much like to be at that wedding oh boy you will be very welcome i think i don't know what your wedding planner skills are but i really need help to uh with my Irish-American guests over 30 to navigate

the Spanish drinking culture and also

chance of fear of displaying affection

in our own wedding. Okay.

This is what I'm going to say.

I would happily help plan your

wedding. Okay? I would do that.

I would plan your wedding.

And my first,

my only recommendation is that the Irish- Americans are restrained in their seats. And that no alcohol is anywhere near them.
And all the Spanish people can drink as much as they want, but not a drop for these Irish bastards. Not a drop.
Do you think that's an easy job? I think i can handle it let's just say i've been down this road before so um yeah i i will help i will help you navigate this because thank you i know i know what you're going through and uh i i feel like i have clearly i understand where sean is coming from you know he's. He doesn't know about making out in public.
What's wrong with that? Did you make up that he's shy? Yeah, she never said that. He might not be a shy person.
Wait, he's not shy? He can surprise you. Yeah.
Well, you think he's going to make a pass at me? He might be funnier and pump some jokes. They're only like, oh, wow.
I thought you were shy. Oh, okay, okay, yeah.
No, I just meant physically. That's all physically shy.
I thought you meant like he's a shy person. No, no, no, I just meant physically shy about public displays of affection if you're not.
Well, I'm having a great time with her. It's you guys I can't seem to get in sync with.
You should try reading the research, huh? What's that?

All right, what does this?

No, it's interesting because with, like, for example,

like in flamenco dancing, it's a very expressive type of dancing.

Yep.

And when he dances flamenco, he actually does a good job.

Yes.

He expresses himself well.

But in other fields, he doesn't succeed as much.

Like what?

Like what other fields?

Like showing real affection. Like what you said like physical affection yeah like in public in public yes i'm sure listen all irish men were a little stilted and stuff in public but uh in private we are um we are very passionate come on and i i am i i'm sorry i to speak up.
I've never heard that. What's that? Never heard that before.
You've never heard that before. She's engaged to an Irishman.
Eugenia, I'm not sure I can make this wedding. I want to help you, but you've got to work with me here and at least pretend that I'm a very, just pretend that I'm a very sensual man.
I've seen you in other stuff and I think you can pull your sensual self when you want to. Yes.
Yes. No, it's very true.
I can be very sensual when the time comes. When it's time, then I can be quite sensual.
When the time comes. When the appropriate moment has arrived.
7.30 p.m. when I can touch it.
Time to be sensual. And Cialis.
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All right well well you know um i i'm gonna do my best by by you i really would like to try and help you i'm obviously much older than sean i'm a very old man i'm sure you can see you don't look that old i have to be honest oh really you keep yourself in good shape Oh, thank you. I try.
Yeah. You can tell.
I haven't had any work done on my face yet.

You, yeah, I suspiciously, you look suspiciously healthy. Conan O'Brien, suspiciously healthy.
Wait a minute. I look suspiciously healthy.
What do you need to lick that, John? Do you think that I'm doing something to my face or to my body? I think it's either Botox or that you're using a lot of sunscreen because of your skin tone and everything, which could be both. Well, first of all, I will tell you, I've never, ever done Botox ever in my life because I'm a comedian and I always worried like that stuff free you know, that stuff freezes up your face and this thing's my money maker.
But I don't use a lot of sunscreen. I just have never gone outside in my life.
Okay. That explains a lot.
Sexy, huh? Does Sean go outside much? He does and he gets burned. That's why he uses a lot of cream, sunscreen.
Yeah, yeah. It's always good when a man applies many creams.
Yeah, it's not sexy at all to wear sunscreen all the time. Well, it's not sexy to say, I'll be right with you, Eugenia, for our walk where I never touch you outside.
But first, I must apply my creams. That's not good.
I was holding hands it's actually eye contacting like that's probably the first base I've got to cover he doesn't make eye contact with you? eye contact is hard yeah for him have you had his eyesight checked maybe he can't see you maybe he's so drunk by noon that he doesn't know which Eugenia to look at I love you and I love you I mean yeah well is Sean aware of my tomfoolery has he ever listened to the podcast or anything he has yeah he went back to you through me I brought you back to him and we he also is a huge fan that's nice that's important for me to know yeah respect because if he's not a fan i'm not going to help him you know no i mean he can always pretend but does he know that you're getting advice about your relationship from conan on here today he's aware and he wishes he could be here with me but well i think he was a press you know what i think um eugenia um i am uh i would like to help you i really would and i'd like to talk to him because as i say i know where he's coming from i used to be believe it or not i used to be an uptight irish guy but i've changed i live in southern california um and uh i've done a lot of work on my body i've read the kama sutra oh boy yeah i didn't know it was the kama sutra i thought it was an in-flight manual in some ways it is yeah i thought it was what to do in case of a crash um i didn't know why these people were getting together during a plane crash but anyway um so uh but but I I feel like I could be and I also would like to get in touch with my I think I have an inner Latin side, an inner Spanish side that should come out. I think every not every, but many Irish Americans do have a Latin repressed Latin soul in them.
And when they release them, it's like a very interesting experience i will get on camera yeah for yeah very good i'll be recording yeah you guys well i did not wish my sensual side to be recorded we did that once and it's doing very well in switzerland um it's uh it's a film it's uh i'm trying to live down but I performed well listen I want to thank you for talking to us and I want to wish you and Sean the best he's got an thank you so much what'd you say? I'm just so defeated well I just looked over at Sona and this is what she was doing wait what's wrong with you? yeah what do you mean what's wrong with me? Why are you defeated? I just don't want, I don't want to hear so much about your sexual prowess. And I think that it's kind of sad that you're saying so much.
I'm only talking about it so much because, you know, of my failings. Yeah, but you...
Oh, wait, that is sad. That is sad.
Yeah, you get very squeamish when women talk about, like, certain parts of their bodies. And you're going to go teach this guy about how to be more sexual.
It's just it's just fun. You're a little bit.
Sona is a little extreme. She talks about things that normal people don't talk about.
She's very graphic. And I don't think I don't get that sense from Eugenia Fernandez de los Ronderos Jimenez.
OK. You know what I mean? I don't think she's walking around talking about various graphic things.
I think she just wants some eye contact and some more little sensuality from her man. That's all you want, yes? Yeah, exactly.
And show us again how you're going to hold her. Yeah.
I'm going to teach him to hold you like this.

Like burping a baby.

Like a koala.

Yeah.

Him giving you a eucalyptus leaf.

And that's the, yeah.

Okay.

You went, ooh, wasn't that kind of sensual?

The eucalyptus leaf? You learned that in Kama Sutra?

It's the special Australian edition, yes.

Well, Eugenia, I love talking to you. Congratulations on your upcoming, I love this word, nuptials.
And tell Sean that Conan says hey and Conan's going to help him. Thank you so much, Conan.
Thank you so much, guys. Nice to meet you all.
Bye-bye. See you later.
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