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Hi, Coco.

Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Fan.

Hello, Coco.

Hi, Coco.

Nice to see you.

Your name is, I'm told your name is Coco T.

Bear.

Is that correct?

You nailed it, yeah.

And there's a lot to ask you right away because I'm looking at a Zoom and I'm being presented with an incredible image of

all kinds of stuff.

There's all kinds of stuff next to you, Coco Tea Bear.

And I encourage people to maybe go online, check out, just see what I'm seeing.

I'm seeing a large gong.

I'm seeing what looks to be a bunch of instruments and beads.

You are.

You are wrapped in various, very multi-patterned robes.

Yep, yep.

You look like a religious figure, Coco T Bear.

Are you a religious figure?

No.

Well, that's it for our interview.

All right.

Nice to see you.

No, no.

Tell us what's going on, Coco T Bear, because I can't figure it out by just looking.

I do refer to myself as a sonic shaman.

Sonic shaman.

A shaman being someone who teaches you what they know.

And what I know is sound,

and how sound can not only

help us connect to each other, but also release the bullshit we go through in our day-to-day life.

That's interesting.

And

I like to use instruments that are easy.

Like a piano has a lot of notes that are not good

to play.

And like a guitar, you can hit a lot of wrong notes.

But none of my instruments have any wrong notes.

Like, it's just.

Ooh.

that's nice.

Ooh.

That's nice.

I just

found these instruments that I loved hearing, feeling, and then I was like,

I want to play those instruments.

So forget the viola.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Listen, you're talking to a guy that said, forget the viola in the 1960s.

Yeah.

Coco T-Bear.

I'm using that long.

Do you prefer that I call you Coco or Coco T-Bear?

To hear Coco O'Brien say the full thing is really nice.

You can just say, Coco T-Bear.

Coco T-Bear, you are a sonic shaman.

Yeah.

Let's say, is this, and this is something that you do professionally?

People do pay me for this, yes.

Okay.

I insist on it.

So

I think that's get the cash up front, I would say.

Yeah, yeah.

So, Denmo's.

Let's say, where are you right now in the world?

In the world, I am in a place of love.

I am in the foothills of the Smoky Mountains in East Tennessee.

Oh, you're in East Tennessee.

Okay.

That's so cool.

I was going to say Dolly territory.

Yeah.

My license plate has Dolly Parton on it.

Wow.

That's very cool.

What?

And so does Dolly Parton.

You guys must be running into each other all the time.

Whenever you get a parking ticket, she has to pay it.

Nice little scam.

Yeah, exactly.

You're a Sonic shaman.

You're in Eastern Tennessee.

Do individual people visit you for a session?

What is it called?

A session?

What are they visiting you for?

I mean, different things, but the most common is sound bath.

You might have heard of a sound.

Sound bath, I've heard of sound bath.

Los Angeles.

Yeah.

But I'll also sometimes use osteophonic tuning forks or bone-vibrating tuning forks.

So they're very quiet, but when you put them near somebody,

do you ever put that near the,

you know,

there's a little bone, the mastoid process.

Do you ever put it on on the mastoid process?

So, I, yeah, oftentimes I love to play it.

So, that's the whole point: the bone vibration.

You can actually press it against the skeletal structure and let your body share that vibration with itself.

Yeah, why the mastoid process?

What does that do?

I'm glad you had to do it.

Yeah, what's up with that?

Well, I've always thought that that was a good place.

It's very susceptible because it's so close to the ear and the ear canal.

It's that right behind the ear, of course, the mastoid process

would be a great susceptible place to feel vibrations.

I apologize for my ignorant friends, Coco T-Bear.

Not necessary.

We don't require it.

Not all of our fathers can be doctors.

Wait, are we high when we're doing this?

I'm sorry.

You seem high now.

The answer for you is anybody's going to ask.

Yes, Coco T.

Bear.

That's a very good question.

How many people are

high or on some kind of high

when they're having a sound bath?

I do like to know when people are high.

You don't need to be high.

But I would say 15% of the time people are already on another substance when they come to a sound bath.

I used to do an event at the Petite Hermitage over there in West Hollywood

called The Highest Hour.

And they would have a sound bather come and a different dispensary would come and bring a special product.

So I met a fella who was 55 years old.

First time he'd ever smoked weed and then had a sound bath head.

So

a sound bath, how long does a sound bath last for?

You're creating different sounds in the sound bath.

And how many people, you could have 10, 15 people having a sound bath together?

Yes, I've had an event up to 55 folks.

But yeah, usually it's in that four

to 20 range, somewhere.

Four to twenty range.

And they're having a sound bath together.

You're creating the sounds.

They're silent.

Is that correct?

They are silent, except for every now and then I call snoring the standing ovation to a sound healer.

So every now and then,

people are breathing.

There are other sounds and people are rustling.

And I just like to remind them that during that space, that sacred space we've created together, all sounds are meant to be.

What if someone's chewing gum?

Oh.

I mean, they're there for a reason.

You know, we're here to get annoyed sometimes.

Okay.

So that's part of the sound bath.

It's, hey, man, this is what's happening.

Yeah.

This is what's happening right now.

What's it doing to you right now?

Could you think, could you do a sound bath without doing bits?

How long do sound baths last?

You guys,

up to an hour, hour and a half.

I've done 12-hour soundbaths.

Okay, that's a good question I have because I do

a lot of bits.

I'm a

nuclear bits machine.

No, I am a nuclear reactor, just firing out bits at the speed of sound.

So that would be a problem, right?

Because I have a very active mind and a very active mouth.

I don't know that I'm the right candidate for a sound bath.

What would you do if I was sitting there in your class of 24 people?

What would you do?

And I'm like, there we go.

Sound bath.

Sound pass the soap.

You know someone who's been in one of my classes.

Even Kevin Nealon can take this serious.

Oh,

kidding.

Kevin Nealon did the sound bath?

If even Kevin can take this seriously, I think

of all people, even Conan O'Brien might be able to.

That's incredible.

So can you spill the beans a little bit?

Kevin,

did he come to you in Los Angeles or did he come to Tennessee and do it?

I used to work at a fancy resort

here in Tennessee.

Oh, he loves a fancy resort.

That's actually how

I found out that his son can do the entirety of an airplane.

He can just quote the whole thing.

But yeah,

that was the first time we met.

And then we've actually done a few in Nashville at a mutual friend's home.

That's so fascinating.

You know, I will say him and Susan.

Susan, lovely Susan.

They are terrific people, and I adore Kevin.

I think he may be soulless.

That's a different matter.

But I've been in sound baths where people could not help but make monkey noises and things like that.

So I think there is a space for people like you.

Because I'm going to be making random noises.

I'm going to be chattering, making little commentary.

And so, I don't know if that's going to be disruptive to the other people in the sound batch.

Well, could we do an example of this where Coco T-Bear, you kind of begin a sound batch and let's see how you handle it.

I think that's a good idea.

That's well, produce, producer.

Thanks.

Thank you.

Oh man,

now I see why y'all brought Gorley in.

Yeah, yeah.

So go ahead and inhale in through your nose

and exhale through the mouth.

And as these sounds move through you, your mind might wander.

Just don't do that.

Just bring your mind back with the breath.

In

and out.

Okay, that makes me feel a genies here.

I feel, I'm sorry, I can't, I, there's no way I don't feel like a genie's here when I hear that sound.

Hold on, I'm having a flashback.

Oh, wow.

Levitation.

That feels like levitation.

I'm just going to narrate these sounds.

No, don't do it, please.

Don't narrate.

Inhale.

Exhale.

That's cool.

Hope he hits that gong soon.

Okay, now I feel like I'm getting a massage.

Yeah.

This is massage music.

It does relax me, though.

The massage.

That's beautiful.

What a beautiful sound.

I'm already closed.

You guys aren't closing?

Oh, I want to see what he's doing.

Oh.

Got my eyes closed.

Oh, God.

Stop talking.

My God, that's terrifying.

Yeah.

Don't go down that hallway.

Go down the hallway.

That's like the Blade Runner soundtrack.

I mean, I am impressed.

These are very cool sounds.

No, but I feel like we're going to get a visit from La Yarona.

I wish I knew what that meant.

My God, you do need to shut up.

Shit, Sona, we're trying to listen.

Sona, you're the only one that's high, so.

Come on.

That sounds like cheering.

I love that sound.

That's the Chicago theater.

That's me at the Chicago theater.

That's me at the Elgin Theater in Toronto.

Oh my god, I was killing at that theater.

I've never...

Wait, where did the cheer?

Where'd the cheering go?

Oh, I love that.

Where did the cheering go?

Doesn't that sound that sounded like, I swear to God, that sounded like a crowd cheering.

And I love that sound.

This is like a Rorschach test.

Yeah.

Because I just heard like...

Some

you heard.

I heard fajitas.

I heard a cheering crowd in Chicago or Toronto.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Stereo?

It isn't stereo.

What is that?

What is that's a giant disc that has?

Oh my god, that laugh, too.

I love the laugh.

I'm just gonna buy one.

Wait, you're gonna be.

Oh, that kind of king.

Cheers and laughter.

I swear to God, I love this.

I'm at El Torito.

Sounds like rain

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Who was the laugh?

That was just me laughing.

Yeah.

Oh, oh, that was your laughing.

Oh my gosh.

I enjoy the podcast.

So this is just me having a great time.

Would you ever.

Oh, God.

God.

She's good at this.

Yeah.

I really want to do this without you too.

I want to do a podcast without either one of you.

I really just want to.

I just want to be happy again in my life.

Oh my gosh.

Want to do something relaxing without the two of you chiming in every two seconds.

Bye.

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Can I ask you a question?

There's no school for this.

You just seem to know how to do this.

I am impressed because I didn't, I have to say, you can think there's going to be some chicanery or skull duggery when someone says I'm a sound shaman, and then what you're doing actually sounds very relaxing and

it sounds like it would work.

I'm a hard seller for this kind of thing, and I think you have such a good attitude with this.

You don't seem too self-serious, and it seems very pleasing.

And yeah, right.

Yeah, when I found this, I was still using the phrase hippie-dippy bullshit on a regular basis.

Oh,

I was quite a skeptic, and um, because there are a lot of goofballs

to be nice about it, and

But if you just approach it as a musician, and I found a really great teacher, I was going to three to five of her sound baths a week in Los Angeles.

Her name is Lauren Rose.

Hi, Lauren.

And she did a three-month program where we actually

went over like dynamic sound and what sound can do for the body.

And we studied how vibrations affect you as a, on a cellular structure.

And then on top of that, she was like, well, what are you you trying?

She didn't just say play these instruments.

It was about feeling the energy in the room.

I did improv in Chicago for

seven years.

So I just kind of lean into that.

That's what I'm saying.

It combines with improv.

Like if you didn't have a good,

you're doing a scene, you sort of start to lose, like, I don't quite know where to go now.

I'm going to start using this gong and these maracas and switch over to sound bath.

That would be a good way to get out of that scene, you know?

There were some nights at I.O.

that I wish I had a gong.

Yeah, 100%.

Can we hear the gong?

Yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, for sure.

Don't, Sona, never apologize for asking what you do.

She should.

Well, I mean, oh, oh, look, he's not banging it like I would.

It's like he's caressing it, he's fondling it.

This is sort of sexual.

Yeah.

Oh, I like what they're doing.

Yeah.

I like what's happening.

We're going to give it a nice now that it's warmed up and we give her a roll.

Yeah.

I I came

oh my god you just

you what

I was watching her you just oh my god Sona oh my god Sona, what would Tax say?

Oh gosh.

What would your mom say?

We got to edit that out.

No, we are not editing that out.

That's incredible.

I can't wait to tell my best friend that.

That's incredible.

Wow.

Wow.

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Wow.

Well, Coco T.

Bear, you just got a killer.

That was a high, high moment.

I'll hear what she's hearing.

Wow.

I'm a believer.

I have to say, I'm a complete believer.

I am, too.

And you know what?

And knowing that Kevin Nealon and Susan did this,

and I know Kevin's a bit of a seeker.

He's looking because clearly he hasn't found it, but he's looking for the answer.

And

I could see him doing this.

This is fascinating.

He also, like, so I, at one point, I was doing 10 of these a week at minimum.

And so I had my own little Southwest jokes, you know, things that always killed in the room.

And then Kevin laughed at a zero of them.

And I was convinced he hated me.

And then I realized that

it's buffoonery that he prefers.

Yeah.

By less than one of your shows.

So thank you for that.

Yeah.

I appreciate that.

This is fascinating that there's,

are there any, I mean, I have a question for you.

We make a podcast.

We make a podcast here, and it's how you've come to us.

Yeah.

Yeah.

On a sonic level, you as a sound shaman, what do you think of a sonic shaman?

What do you think of the podcast just on a soothing sonic level?

And be honest.

Eduardo, I've told Eduardo this.

He does a great job.

If it wasn't for the levels on this show and the editing of the pops and the ums and the breaths that Matt does, this is a tight show.

And I listen to very few podcasts.

This is actually the first podcast I ever actually started listening to regularly.

That's nice.

I would get into podcast, I would try to try one, it would sound terrible.

There'd be echoes, uh, and so I would just move on.

Um, and it made me actually regret not watching your show all those years.

Thank you, Coco.

Because you're so like, this is funny.

This is great.

Yeah, and I've had to go back and watch the things like FedExpo.

Pretty historic.

Well, thank God they're saved on the internet.

Yeah.

Let's move past the part where you're unaware of my work on television.

Wait, I just came.

That was quick.

That was a fast orgasm.

Flute did it for you?

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

The heart wants what the heart wants.

Yeah.

You heard a second of a flute and you came instantly and very quickly.

Oh, there I came.

Oh, there I came.

Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

Flute.

Oh, there I came.

Oh, no.

Cobo Tibert, this is hilarious.

And also,

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I really am.

I have a favorite one.

Did you ever come to Los Angeles?

Can I see you?

You're a married woman.

You do.

You're a married woman.

Yeah, I know what you're ever coming to Los Angeles.

I mean, not.

I do.

Okay.

I'd like to see you.

We would like to be romantic.

Wait, can we do it

next summer?

Because we've already got Chillchums planned.

But in 2026, could we do a sound bath session with Coco Tier for Chillchums?

Who knows?

It doesn't even have to be at Chill Chum's.

But we'll find a slot.

I think there's a sound bath in our future.

Because guess what?

We all need a sound bath.

You know, it's been a while.

I'm convinced they brought me here to chill you out.

Yeah, that's never, I mean, I don't know if it's chilled me.

They were like, we're going to do this after the Oscars, okay?

And then they were like, actually, we're going to do this after the Mark Twain Awards.

And I was like, oh, yeah.

Yeah, let's wait till everything's chill.

We're always waiting for a time when my life isn't crazy and I don't feel like there's a gun in my mouth and it never comes.

But I will say this.

Oh, go ahead.

I just almost regret to say this, but like you have mentioned your own sound soothing that you do.

It is unfortunately in the waste of time of others, but you like attention.

and you noodling on a guitar is your own version of noodling on a guitar and also i do a thing when people are talking sometimes where i go oh

you're a little verbal and i murderer murderer murderer murderer and um

I do that and I do it to try to do it in a way where the other person, like if someone's driving me in an Uber and they're saying, oh, it's, you know, okay, we're going to take a left track, I go, ooh, yeah.

And I make little strange noises, and

they don't hear me, but they give me pleasure.

You'd been around with me when this is happening.

Yes, and it's in said, that's why I don't think I want to do this sound bath with you.

And I mean that in a loving way.

It's a very private and personal thing for you.

I have done this for people's assistance aside from doing it for them.

That's usually the case.

See, you're doing it.

That's like the opposite for us of a sound bath.

It's like a sound cesspool or something where we're subject to this sewage dumped on us.

You know what I mean?

It's like the antithesis of a gold bloom growl.

Yeah, that's right.

Oh, I bet he'd be great in a sound bath.

Oh, yes, he is a sound bath.

He is

so soothing, and he's so

tactile.

Coco Tiber,

you've risen in

my to the top.

You've risen to the top.

I want to have a sound bath.

I want you to be my sonic shaman.

And I think we're going to make this work out sometime in the future until then amazing take care of yourself okay and uh really um so nice so nice to get a chance to talk to you and can you play us out

yeah play us out with something that can i can i first do two nerdy questions though yeah sure

I mean, if it's a

bother, don't worry.

You didn't have to say nerdy.

Just say two quests.

Just say two questions.

Okay, but they're ultimately nerdy.

Well, I knew that.

Do you know of

a lesser-known Civil War War battlefield here in the South that I could go play my gong at that maybe doesn't get as much of attention as like Gettysburg?

Oh, well, the South is just filled with battlefields.

Yeah.

So I'd have to look it up.

I mean, I don't know my battles well enough to know, like, oh, right, Eastern Tennessee.

I know where you can go.

Okay.

You know, why not go out?

You could get to Georgia pretty quickly.

It's not a battlefield, but you could go to Andersonville, which is where prisoners of war were kept.

And that might be a great place to heal because there was a lot of suffering there.

So you could go to, that's where northern

POWs were kept.

So, and many of them died of dysentery.

So, you banging a gong in that field might bring them peace and relief.

Yeah, and if you're looking for a Star Wars battlefield, I'd say this planet of Scarif.

Yeah, I'm not.

I'm not, though.

Okay.

Because I know that stuff.

But then this is Simpsons-related.

I was once actually told, hey, don't approach Matt Groening.

And so I made sure to go and tell him how much I loved him.

As a figure, as a leader that sees himself as a Stalin-esque leader,

and then I saw you dance and sing at the Oscars, your favorite episodes, you've said, are the ones, the musical and Mr.

Burns episode.

Have you ever thought of like a live-action Mr.

Burns Broadway play?

Well, that would be intellectual property that I'd be stealing.

I'd have to do that.

So if the Simpsons develop something like that, I don't pretend to do that.

I'd have to reach out to you.

Yeah, and also I don't pretend to do the best.

I mean,

yeah, I don't think that would be the best use of me in the musical format.

I think Fiddler on the Roof is where I belong.

It's about time an Irishman tackled that role.

Strong.

It went back in.

All right.

Well, let's get it.

Picturing sperm go.

Let's get back in, everybody.

They pack up their suitcase.

Oh, my God.

My daughter just disappeared.

All right, Coco T-Bear, we salute you.

Take us out with some of your.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, you said these couldn't go out of tune, but

that sounded very out of tune.

Sorry, man.

Well, I'm all nervous now.

Yeah, yeah, I know.

Hard to perform on command.

That was amazing.

Thank you so much.

My pleasure.

Take care, Coco T-Bear.

I love you.

I will if you do.

Go in peace, man.

Good to talk to y'all.

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