4 | Keeper Of A House Of Prostitution

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Speaker 21 Previously on Crook County, I got recruited into the mob when I was 17 years old.

Speaker 15 After two years in the outfit, Kenny was on his way up.

Speaker 22 He trusted me because I didn't steal money.

Speaker 23 I just did my job.

Speaker 22 It's hard to find an honest guy in the fucking outfit.

Speaker 15 He got a new boss.

Speaker 8 My crew boss was Jack.

Speaker 23 Jack, Jackie Lemons Erickson.

Speaker 25 He ran the whorehouses.

Speaker 15 And Kenny got a new job, working the door at a brothel.

Speaker 25 A guy would come in.

Speaker 23 I'd introduce him to all the girls by name.

Speaker 24 They would negotiate a deal.

Speaker 22 She would hand me path to take, and then she would be on her way.

Speaker 15 And then one night, he met a girl.

Speaker 22 I think I was 19.

Speaker 23 I met her. She was 20.

Speaker 25 Saw her sitting at the end of the bar. I fell in love with her pretty quick.

Speaker 15 That pretty little redhead at the bar was my mother.

Speaker 15 My name is Kyle Tequila. Welcome to Crook County.

Speaker 15 Just by the way, I'm tired.

Speaker 15 I'd change as I'm living a lie.

Speaker 15 Lost in the waste.

Speaker 15 Lost in the

Speaker 21 We would have to take bus every once in a while, just so Cook County cops could, you know, show that they're making some progress here.

Speaker 23 So those are all arranged bus. Okay, Ken, it's your turn.

Speaker 25 Now, man,

Speaker 21 when half the motherfuckers were running their own hordes on the side out of our fucking clubs.

Speaker 15 Episode 4, Keeper of a House of Prostitution.

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Speaker 15 He's very good, huh? He's the best.

Speaker 27 Hey, man, he's great. He's the king out there, John Travolta, in Saturday Night Fever.

Speaker 15 I'm watching the trailer to the 1977 box office monster, Saturday Night Fever.

Speaker 15 Believe it or not, I've actually never seen this movie, which obviously is a huge mistake because it looks hilarious.

Speaker 15 A 23-year-old unknown actor named John Travolta with his trademark cleft chin, strutting around Brooklyn in silk and polyester, dancing up a storm every night to what has become the second highest-selling soundtrack of all time, just behind the bodyguard soundtrack.

Speaker 14 Fuck, that is a good song.

Speaker 15 Oh, and how wild is this? The Bee Gees didn't even write these cultural-defining songs until after the movie was filmed because the producers couldn't license the original music.

Speaker 15 So they scrambled and begged the Bee Gees to write a few songs on spec, which they didn't even want to do because they were in the middle of recording their album in some studio in France.

Speaker 15 So they basically threw together four songs in a weekend to get it over with. Those four songs?

Speaker 15 Night Fever,

Speaker 16 If I can't have you,

Speaker 14 more than a woman.

Speaker 15 And of course, staying alive.

Speaker 15 Ooh, if that shit don't make you want to get up and dance, then I can't help you. I can't help you, brother.

Speaker 15 Anyway, the reason I'm even going down this rabbit hole in the first place is because apparently, Saturday Night Fever might as well be a documentary of my parents' relationship in their first few years.

Speaker 15 I'll let my mom explain this one.

Speaker 3 One of our songs would come on and we'd run out to the dance floor

Speaker 3 because we're so excited because we can dance so good together. We're like John Travolta.

Speaker 17 I was going to say, that was just what I was thinking. I'm like, believe me, it was Saturday Night Fever.

Speaker 3 It was.

Speaker 3 How those two

Speaker 3 would practice and then they would go on the dance floor and people would just like

Speaker 3 separate, move away and watch us dance. That's how it was.

Speaker 3 People were even throwing money at us at one time on the floor.

Speaker 17 But I think that was about they wanted you to take your clothes off. Thank you.

Speaker 15 That other voice is my mom's childhood friend Kathy, who was with my mom a lot during those disco days.

Speaker 3 So yeah, so we continued to do that like two, three, maybe even four times a week. And it was just fun, fun, fun.
Were you 20? 20.

Speaker 17 You were sneaking in.

Speaker 28 You were underage, Jim.

Speaker 3 Okay. I still got served.

Speaker 28 Okay, well, absolutely.

Speaker 17 Well, because they always let the pretty girls in. And the way that I actually know Holly is I knew your grandma before I knew Holly.

Speaker 17 And I will tell you this, your mother used to walk in with $5 in her pocket, and she'd leave with $5 in her pocket.

Speaker 26 She never had to do anything.

Speaker 28 Something's never changed.

Speaker 17 She never had to do anything.

Speaker 17 And one of the times when we were out,

Speaker 17 and I have no idea why, but your father came up and asked me to dance.

Speaker 17 So, and he was quite the dancer. We had seen him on the floor.
We had all commented, all three of us.

Speaker 17 And the three of us meaning your grandma. So when we came off the dance floor, I said, come with me.
I have someone I'd like you to meet.

Speaker 17 And he's like, really? And I said,

Speaker 17 Holly, this is Ken. Ken, this is Holly.
Go dance your socks off. Basically.
Maybe those weren't the exact words. And I pushed her off her bar stool.
And as they say, the rest is history.

Speaker 26 That's amazing.

Speaker 29 So it's all your fault. Yes, it is.

Speaker 15 Let's see how my dad remembers it.

Speaker 23 Yeah, I was 19 years old. I was over at fucking a disco called some other place.

Speaker 23 See, I was sitting at the bar.

Speaker 26 She was sitting at the end of the bar with her mother, of course.

Speaker 22 And I saw her and I was just, whoa,

Speaker 26 nice little redhead there. And I kind of dug her.

Speaker 21 And I walked up to her, just started talking.

Speaker 26 And that's how we met. That simple.
In a bar.

Speaker 22 But that's how we met back then.

Speaker 23 We didn't meet online like everybody meets online now.

Speaker 22 You actually had to go out and do something back in my day.

Speaker 23 I mean, you actually had to give it some effort.

Speaker 26 You actually had to walk and sit out and talk to somebody, look them in their eyes and talk to them, you know.

Speaker 15 All right, close enough. What happened happened next?

Speaker 3 He called me almost like the next day and asked me out on a date. It took me about three months, though, to actually really,

Speaker 3 really like the guy. Because that summer, when I met Ken, I was also dating this other guy from the complex I was living in.
The guy that I was dating before I met Ken and somebody else.

Speaker 28 So it was like an awesome summer for me.

Speaker 13 You don't know who my real father is.

Speaker 3 I was going to say.

Speaker 15 Okay, let's wrap this up, please.

Speaker 3 He lived with some guys in an apartment. We would go back to the apartment and there'd be people all over the place, you know.
So it wasn't very romantic, but one night, nobody was there.

Speaker 3 And it was just like he lit all these candles

Speaker 3 and he had Pink Floyd playing on the record player

Speaker 3 back in the day.

Speaker 17 Which every time that song comes on here.

Speaker 28 Us and them.

Speaker 3 I remember he was wearing cut-off little jean shorts

Speaker 3 and his wife beater tank top.

Speaker 3 And he had really nice legs.

Speaker 3 And he had long curly hair like to his shoulders and he i don't know he just looked really sexy that night and that's

Speaker 3 that's the night

Speaker 3 after six months he proposed to me

Speaker 3 and I was he was 19 and I was 20 and of course I said yes because I guess when I fall in love

Speaker 26 I fall really deep

Speaker 15 Even though Ken had put a ring on her finger, they basically acted like kids who were dating.

Speaker 15 She was still living at home with her mom. Ken had his own apartment.
They had their own separate lives and only spent a few days a week together.

Speaker 15 Eventually, Holly started hearing things from friends who had seen Ken out at bars talking to other women or rumors of huge parties at his apartment that she didn't know about.

Speaker 3 Ken was always such a schmoozer. He was always flirting.

Speaker 3 You know, he was a good-looking guy, very charismatic, like you say, and he just attracted women. And I was a very jealous person.
And I, to this day, I am.

Speaker 3 And that was not good for me to have a guy like that in my life. He would say, oh, you know, I've never cheated on you, blah, blah, blah, you know.

Speaker 3 And I just never believed him.

Speaker 15 I asked my dad about this.

Speaker 20 She said you were quite the schmoozer.

Speaker 26 I was quite the schmoozer, yes. I was running her whorehouses.
I was running a whorehouses. I was schmoozing with hordes all day long.

Speaker 23 I was banging six at a time for Christ's sake.

Speaker 23 But I liked your mom, though.

Speaker 26 I liked your mom.

Speaker 23 She wasn't.

Speaker 26 I didn't look at her as a whore. I looked at her as a woman that I liked.

Speaker 32 You know?

Speaker 25 So totally different thing.

Speaker 26 Totally different. Totally different.

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Speaker 26 I'm running whorehouses.

Speaker 37 I'm not running, but I'm a doorman.

Speaker 21 I'm going to run them later, you know, 18, 19, 20, 20, you know, up through, what, 28, you know.

Speaker 23 So, um, but these girls, man, these

Speaker 16 girls,

Speaker 21 I mean, you know, we're talking lost hardcore souls, you know, just lost.

Speaker 26 Some are angels, you know, just lost angels, you know, just lost and drug-addicted.

Speaker 15 During the years I filmed these conversations with my dad, we spent hours and hours talking about all the sensational mafia bullshit you would come to expect in a story like this.

Speaker 15 But when he remembers the girls that worked in the club, there's an immediate shift in his demeanor.

Speaker 15 A calm washes over him as he smiles in memory and begins diving into dozens of stories from his 10 years as a doorman and eventually manager of the clubs.

Speaker 15 Many of these stories I will feature in later episodes as they relate to the larger overall story. But first, I need to say what's on my mind.
None of this has been an easy pill to swallow for me.

Speaker 15 The drugs and the murders make this whole thing bad enough. But where I get the real pit in my stomach is hearing him talk about his time in the clubs with these girls.

Speaker 15 Especially knowing my mom was very much in the picture during these years. And as hard as that is to digest, The fact is this is not my story.
It's Kenny's story.

Speaker 15 And I have a responsibility to let him tell it the way he wants to tell it. And right now, he wants to talk about these girls.
So that's what we're going to do.

Speaker 14 First up, Cindy.

Speaker 23 She was our local dominatrix.

Speaker 22 She was our club dominatrix. She had all the gear, all the leather, all the outfits.

Speaker 40 And boy, she would raise hell on these guys.

Speaker 22 And they loved her, man.

Speaker 22 One of the chiefs in Cook County was one of her clients.

Speaker 23 And he'd come in every Tuesday or Thursday, that piece of shit.

Speaker 25 But man, she would wail on that motherfucker.

Speaker 26 She would wail on him.

Speaker 8 We had little peepholes in the doors where we could watch what was going on.

Speaker 23 She would let us know, watch what I have in store for this guy.

Speaker 38 Then we'd all run up to the door, be fighting for the people,

Speaker 14 be three of us, pushing each other out of the way, trying to get to the people while she wailed on these fucker guys.

Speaker 38 And these guys just loved it.

Speaker 7 Loved it.

Speaker 41 Oh, God.

Speaker 23 Some funny shit, man.

Speaker 15 There's Ming and Ling, the Chinese identical twins.

Speaker 14 Ming and Lang.

Speaker 24 These girls had their feet wrapped when they were young.

Speaker 23 Back in the day, it was a Chinese custom to wrap the feet of the girls because they thought small feet was a beautiful thing in China. You guys can look this up.
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Speaker 23 But they were strictly business, man.

Speaker 22 No drugs, no bullshit, no partying, no talking to anybody, just business.

Speaker 42 And they had a plan.

Speaker 22 Or all the other girls and guys never had plans. So I admired them.

Speaker 39 I admired those two.

Speaker 15 And a short blonde they called Marilyn.

Speaker 37 Marilyn because she looked like Marilyn Monroe.

Speaker 22 That's what we call it. I dated her for a while.

Speaker 43 Nymphomaniac.

Speaker 44 Purely sex, I guess our relationship was.

Speaker 32 Didn't really have a lot to talk about.

Speaker 30 She was a cokehead.

Speaker 43 But hey,

Speaker 25 it was someone I was hanging out with for a while there, you know.

Speaker 23 But she would have been your typical, she would have been your typical whore.

Speaker 22 And there's so many of them that came in and out throughout the years.

Speaker 30 So I would classify her as just a typical in-and-out girl, you know, in for a while working and off to do something else.

Speaker 15 He goes on about a few more girls.

Speaker 14 Big, tall, blonde, had a couple Hispanic girls there.

Speaker 15 And I can't help but notice that in its own twisted way, it sounds a lot like how someone would tell stories about their crazy college years.

Speaker 15 You know, the debauchery and stupidity of 20-year-olds living together with only one thing on their mind.

Speaker 23 It was just amazing.

Speaker 25 It was really an experience for me.

Speaker 15 For Kenny, who never finished high school, this club was as close as he ever got to the university experience, with a slightly different core curriculum.

Speaker 15 Underworld economics, the business of sex, crooked cops and politicians, how to give a beating and stay alive, keeping secrets 101,

Speaker 15 and the girls, a welcome distraction from the overwhelming dark reality that once you're in the outfit, there's no getting out.

Speaker 15 I want to be clear here. In no way do I condone my father's infidelities to my mother as acceptable in any way.

Speaker 15 I am merely trying to understand the psychology behind his actions during this time.

Speaker 15 Proposing to my mom at 19 years old, while knowing exactly what kind of lifestyle he lives, is an extremely odd decision, which he must have known would fail miserably.

Speaker 15 Why would he do that? Why would he put himself and Holly through that?

Speaker 15 What could he possibly have been thinking?

Speaker 32 When I wasn't working at the clubs, when I wasn't working a shift, I went home, I went to my apartment and

Speaker 40 I was either dating your mother or if I wasn't dating your mother,

Speaker 32 I would completely detach myself from work in that environment where everybody else would hang around at the clubs and bullshit around, do coke and party, party, party, all this other crap.

Speaker 24 And I would just go home, man, I'd do my shift and I would go home.

Speaker 30 But no, I kept myself completely separated, especially when I was with your mother.

Speaker 23 Yeah, I could do that. I just, it wasn't a lifestyle.

Speaker 46 For me, it was a lifestyle. Those grease balls, it was a fucking lifestyle.

Speaker 44 That's the style they wanted to live.

Speaker 22 They wanted to live that way.

Speaker 39 I did not.

Speaker 22 I don't know if I can make that any fucking clearer.

Speaker 41 I did not want to be them.

Speaker 32 All right. That wasn't my goal in life.

Speaker 30 So I kept myself completely detached from those people.

Speaker 15 I asked a psychologist about this, and she broke it down to what she calls a sense of normalcy.

Speaker 15 His engagement to Holly was an attempt to establish a safe space of love and stability that exists outside of the dangerous and chaotic world he was living in.

Speaker 15 And by doing so, he was laying the foundation that would eventually fragment his life into two completely separate halves, both mentally and physically.

Speaker 15 But as fascinating as all that sounds, the reality is much easier said than done.

Speaker 3 He realized at 19 years old, what am I doing

Speaker 3 being engaged? And I'm 20, he's only 19.

Speaker 17 And that has a lot to do with it.

Speaker 3 So, anyway,

Speaker 3 you know,

Speaker 3 maybe a year into the re into the engagement, he called it off.

Speaker 47 Bill Curtis with Chicago's number one news, channel 2, the 10 o'clock news.

Speaker 48 In Chicago, the connection between organized crime and prostitution was the target of government sting Morphy and Ned Potter.

Speaker 48 The targets involved were clubs and bars such as these, where officials say sex was openly for sale, but the transactions were carefully covered up.

Speaker 21 We would have to take bus every once in a while, just so Cook County cops could, you know, show that they're making some progress here, okay?

Speaker 21 When half the motherfuckers are running their own hordes on the side out of our fucking clubs.

Speaker 21 Anyway, that's another fucking story.

Speaker 15 Well, that is a story I would love to hear. But we've been going for a while now and he's getting a little hungry.
So we decided to take a drive. Of course, he starts talking in the car.

Speaker 15 So I whip out my phone and hit record.

Speaker 21 So, you know, these motherfuckers were so crooked.

Speaker 26 And we owned them.

Speaker 21 We owned them. But here's the deal, you know, they had to show numbers.

Speaker 44 So, somebody had to catch a bust every once in a while.

Speaker 21 All right, so I caught two busts.

Speaker 21 If you dig deep enough, and it's there, the only thing you'll really see on me is two arrests, early 80s for a keeper of house of prostitution, late 70s, early 80s, keeper of house of prostitution.

Speaker 21 That's all that's going to pop on me.

Speaker 22 So, you know, we would arrange these like, Cad, okay, you're on.

Speaker 21 tonight. You're taking one for the team.

Speaker 21 Take the bust and

Speaker 21 give us a call afterwards and we'll come get you.

Speaker 21 So

Speaker 21 I took two of those and the girls would come with me. And, you know, a little party, everybody would be laughing, having a good time.
And, you know, but had to take the bus.

Speaker 26 But here I am, Ken, young.

Speaker 21 Not thinking, is as smart as I was, is as fucking dumb as I was because I would use my name.

Speaker 8 Your real name. My real name.

Speaker 26 And

Speaker 21 you know, I

Speaker 37 don't know what came over me, but I would use my real name while I'm hearing all the girls, you know, using their club names.

Speaker 15 And so, so now that shit's on your record forever.

Speaker 39 Yeah, so now it's on my fucking record and I can't shake it.

Speaker 21 But at this point, it really doesn't make a difference.

Speaker 38 Not many people have keeper of a house of house of prostitution on your record. And I got two of them.

Speaker 15 Keeper of a house of prostitution, huh?

Speaker 15 Not seeing any greeting cards at the supermarket for that lovely badge of honor?

Speaker 15 If only that was as bad as it got for Kenny, maybe things would be different.

Speaker 14 For all of us.

Speaker 15 But unfortunately, that's where this fairy tale ends.

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Speaker 15 With several years in the outfit under his belt and a few successful busts to boot, Kenny was a rising star in the crew, and word was getting around that he could handle himself.

Speaker 15 The club became his world, and he made friends with the other guys who worked there.

Speaker 14 You know, it was like an office, you know, hanging out around a water cooler, just bullshit, you know, that type of thing.

Speaker 46 It was not any different.

Speaker 43 It was just, you know, it's not, they're still human beings.

Speaker 44 They may be animals, some of them, and grease balls, and narcissists, and sociopaths, but they're still human beings, you know.

Speaker 15 There was Billy, the bartender.

Speaker 22 Big old thick southern accent, cowboy hat, big old belt, big old belt buckle jeans, jeans, cowboy boots.

Speaker 30 Lanky, tall, lanky, and muscular. A guy you do not want to fuck with.

Speaker 40 I was afraid of this guy, and I was afraid of nobody. This guy worried me.

Speaker 41 Because those tall, lanky ones, boy, there's a lot of air time before that fist hits you.

Speaker 22 We hit you in the right spot, that's it, you're done for.

Speaker 44 So this guy kind of scared me.

Speaker 49 Plus he was just strong.

Speaker 30 Just a strong, dumb hillbilly.

Speaker 49 But a great guy.

Speaker 15 Sam, the younger brother of ken's crew boss jack erickson his brother was uh a good guy you know i just

Speaker 14 he didn't belong in the business um i did like him a lot um he wasn't like other y'all sociopaths narcissistic maniacs that were in the mob um a little overweight quiet wanted to be like his brother but knew he couldn't be like his brother so that kind of bothered him Things went bad at a club.

Speaker 43 He couldn't handle it.

Speaker 24 He just didn't belong in the business, But that's, you know, that's the way he was, Jack's brother.

Speaker 14 And Danny, a low-level doorman.

Speaker 44 Dan was just a fat guy, loved to eat.

Speaker 31 Typical grease ball.

Speaker 22 Kind of unkept, though, for a grease ball.

Speaker 22 A jovial, nice guy, you know?

Speaker 40 Yeah, he was a door guy. Yeah,

Speaker 15 we were door guys.

Speaker 45 I would relieve him and he would relieve me, you know.

Speaker 49 Work a morning shift, I'd relieve him at night.

Speaker 46 Or I'd work a night shift, and he'd relieve me on a graveyard shift, you know, just something like that.

Speaker 40 We were relieving each other.

Speaker 44 So we'd stay and talk, you know, chat, just like any job.

Speaker 22 You stay on talk to your, you know.

Speaker 32 It was a job, you know, chat it up a little bit, mess around with the girls, you know, have fun with them a little, not sexual fun, but just goof around, you know, just like an office.

Speaker 15 One night while Danny was working the door, a gunman broke in and robbed the cash box.

Speaker 15 Everybody was, of course, questioned, including Ken, who wasn't working that night and had a credible alibi.

Speaker 15 Eventually, it was discovered to be an inside job.

Speaker 31 Oh, fuck, he did him and somebody.

Speaker 45 I can't remember who the other person was.

Speaker 24 Why Danny was working?

Speaker 8 He had someone come in and rob the place while he was working.

Speaker 22 You know, so of course, Dan's gonna put up his arms, take the money, and leave.

Speaker 43 And that happened.

Speaker 20 Why do you think Dan

Speaker 20 wanted to rob this place?

Speaker 24 Because they were all greedy bastards, man.

Speaker 30 Listen,

Speaker 14 I was taught by Jack.

Speaker 49 Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

Speaker 40 And that stuck with me.

Speaker 14 Meaning,

Speaker 46 if you're making a living, take the living.

Speaker 49 If you're making a good living, take that living.

Speaker 31 Don't be a hog.

Speaker 49 Don't get greedy.

Speaker 44 You know, be thankful for what you got.

Speaker 49 Because you're going to get slaughtered.

Speaker 22 All these guys wanted more.

Speaker 14 More broads, more dope, dope, more fucking money, more power, more greaseball, more mob. You know, they wanted more, more, more, more, more.

Speaker 22 Very ambitious people.

Speaker 44 I guess it's like in the private sector, very ambitious people.

Speaker 44 But in our business, pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered.

Speaker 46 And he got slaughtered.

Speaker 15 Danny had to go.

Speaker 15 And the powers that be felt this was the perfect opportunity to see what young Kenny was made of.

Speaker 31 I was there for the setup on the whack for

Speaker 26 Danny.

Speaker 38 All right.

Speaker 45 I think we, after Huck shifts one night, we just waited for him out in the parking lot.

Speaker 39 And,

Speaker 43 you know, we were all friends.

Speaker 45 He got in the car and was just one of those, you know, you're going to get whacked by your buddy type of thing, you know.

Speaker 22 So anyway, we got him. I got him.

Speaker 49 And it was, you know,

Speaker 22 when the guys trust you, it's easy.

Speaker 40 Get in the car. Let's go to Denny's, have some breakfast boom next you know he's getting his ass kicked all right

Speaker 39 and got him in the car and um drove them to uh

Speaker 22 one of the uh chop shops and um

Speaker 22 dropped them off there and whatever i did with him from there i don't know

Speaker 45 That was the only time I ever had any emotion in any hit.

Speaker 31 Because everybody I hit was a fucking animal, a degenerate

Speaker 49 psychopath, sadistic narcissist

Speaker 40 that didn't.

Speaker 42 We needed to get rid of that seed.

Speaker 22 That seed is not good for earth.

Speaker 42 That seed needed to be destroyed.

Speaker 24 That's how bad these people were.

Speaker 45 So I never had any remorse.

Speaker 46 The remorse I have now

Speaker 46 is that it's not my place.

Speaker 14 It's not my place.

Speaker 26 It's not my place.

Speaker 26 That's what God does.

Speaker 26 That's not what Ken does.

Speaker 26 That's God's job.

Speaker 14 That's not my job.

Speaker 14 My head is spinning.

Speaker 15 I don't know who this man is.

Speaker 15 And it's now obvious that I never did.

Speaker 15 But I want to know.

Speaker 15 I need to know.

Speaker 29 Shut up, shut up.

Speaker 29 Next week on Crook County.

Speaker 42 You could see why he could be an enforcer.

Speaker 26 I'm blind rage, out of control, violent person.

Speaker 17 He was a freaking crazy man.

Speaker 15 Crook County is a production of iHeart Podcasts and Tenderfoot TV in association with Common Enemy. All episodes are written, produced, and hosted by me, Kyle Tequila.

Speaker 15 Executive producers are Donald Albright and Payne Lindsay. Original score by Makeup and Vanity Set.
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Speaker 15 And credit song is called No Show, also by the band Starry Eyes. Sound mix by Cooper Skinner.
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