How I Built a Business Empire While Competing Globally | Fred Kerley DSH #1326

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Speaker 1 Get paid.

Speaker 1 So when I made it to the finals, I'm like,

Speaker 1 it's all or nothing. But I felt like even when I

Speaker 1 read your question, that's probably was the most race I want to redo back. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 All races. That's the one.
Damn, you got second, though.

Speaker 1 That's the one on all my races. I don't feel no type of way about that.

Speaker 1 All right, guys. Got Fred here out in Vegas, a rare city for for him to attend.
Thanks for coming on, man. Appreciate it.
Yeah, you got a fun night tonight, right? A nice little fun night tonight.

Speaker 1 You're in season right now, too. Definitely in season.
The start of the season. So we will call this like relay season, preseason.

Speaker 1 So our season will really start into championship season, championship season for us. It started whenever we get past USA's.
So you're just warming up right now.

Speaker 1 It's just preseason, getting body, getting the body tuned and stuff for the big show later. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you guys have a long season, like compared to most athletes, right? You're running.

Speaker 1 So, our season really year-round, believe it or not, because you got some countries starting different seasons, some countries start in October, some countries.

Speaker 1 It's just tracking just a year-round sport, so you got to keep your body in tune year-round. Yeah, have you ever had some burnout?

Speaker 1 Of course, I feel like one burnout season probably was

Speaker 1 2023,

Speaker 1 2022. After I got done, just like you just get drained of traveling and all that.
Yeah, yeah, because traveling takes a toll on your body. Like,

Speaker 1 we travel week in and week out, and I feel like the outside world don't understand that.

Speaker 1 It's a blessing to travel, though, too. Yeah.
But it's also wear and tear on your body also. 100%.
Whenever I fly somewhere, I have a runny nose. I get sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you don't got the right team around you, I feel sorry for you. For like, for like the massage therapists and coaches and stuff, because you got to get back into the flow of things.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had LaShawn Merritt on a few months ago, and he was talking to me about that. He has a chiropractor fly with him everywhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to have that because track and feel take a toll on your body and stuff.

Speaker 1 You can perform at a meet good, and then the following week, you're not performing.

Speaker 1 So you got to understand that you're going to have the ups and downs and stuff because you got to get your body rejuvenate into the time zone you're in.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Stuff like that.
I think track's one of the most mental sports too

Speaker 1 i feel like track is definitely one of the most mental sport it is because it's all about patience like if you don't got the mental game

Speaker 1 you really don't got nothing in tracking field because we all know we can run fast yeah so running fast is like the easy part is all just

Speaker 1 things on the outside of stuff that a lot of people don't understand that going to the

Speaker 1 track and field. Is there a lot of politics involved with how the races operate? There's a lot of politics.

Speaker 1 Like which lane you get, if you got the best agent.

Speaker 1 How does the agent matter?

Speaker 1 If you got a good agent, I can tell my agent I don't want this other person in the race. Damn.
I didn't know that. This is like the small little things that go into the thing.

Speaker 1 Or I don't want this person next to me, put them in the outside lane.

Speaker 1 I want somebody slower on the side of me for it can make me look good and stuff.

Speaker 1 Just like the small things that uh about outside people don't understand has that happened to you where someone didn't want you part of the race you found out of course of course especially in my 400 days oh yeah the 100 days not so much because it's just like

Speaker 1 the competitiveness in the hundred guys definitely in my 400 days i had people didn't anyone mean this to them

Speaker 1 i wonder I wonder why there's such a difference with the 400 and 100 different mentality maybe. I feel like the 400 was

Speaker 1 whoever got the biggest balls.

Speaker 1 So, whoever got the biggest balls, and then the 100 is just like Mato and Mato. Either you got it or you don't.

Speaker 1 The 400 is the same way, but you got to have the biggest balls. And the 400 is just to step in the 400.
It's like an all-out sprint. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And whoever can decelerate the fastest, I mean, the slowest in the 400, that's the person who's going to win. Right.
They say the 400 is the toughest race in track and field, right?

Speaker 1 I will say yay and nay, because if you ain't training for it if you just think you couldn't just have the endurance to outrun somebody i could tell you wrong but you got to have the speed and endurance at the same time like if you don't got both of them you shit out of luck right because you need to finish strong to win like i feel like you got to conserve a lot of energy or

Speaker 1 be on point

Speaker 1 You can't go out too fast. You can't go out too slow.
Right. If you go out too slow, you're not catching up.

Speaker 1 If you go out too fast you're gonna die so you gotta have a medium in that yeah i remember a lot of people questioned why you transitioned from the 400 to the 100 right

Speaker 1 i feel like people still ask me to um right now because i don't think people understand

Speaker 1 how

Speaker 1 easy and hard it was to translate translate from the 400 to the 100 the 400 to the 100 it's definitely hard like definitely my first year even though i did stuff that people took a lifetime to do it's definitely hard to do because you got to

Speaker 1 race fast

Speaker 1 every day,

Speaker 1 training different. Like speed hurt.
Yeah. Like even though the 400 hurt, speed actually hurt.
I remember some training sessions and stuff. I'm like,

Speaker 1 I better go back to the 400 because like you run so fast, but you tax on your body so much that people don't understand how much. speed actually do hurt.
Yeah. You got to recover from that.

Speaker 1 Some days you don't get to recover. You got to go fly on the weekend.

Speaker 1 So speed definitely hurt. But my transition from the 400 to 100 was definitely much easier than I expected because I ended up meddling my first year out.

Speaker 1 But the following year, I had to get grounded and understand

Speaker 1 from

Speaker 1 the training and stuff, the phases of the 100 meters.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I felt like it was definitely harder in 2022 and 2023. I'm still learning because

Speaker 1 you can't do what I did in the 400 where you can just like,

Speaker 1 it's all about racing 100.

Speaker 1 From the finish to the get-go. Like in the 400, you can, you got phases where you can critique in the 400.
You can't

Speaker 1 critique nothing fast in 100.

Speaker 1 Once somebody gone, they're gone. It's harder.
You can't catch a non, just like you can't catch a 43 if you run 43.

Speaker 1 And 100 is just so like this. The 400, you still got a whole lap to fish some things and stuff, right? It's just like that, yeah.
You get a bad start, you're done, yeah.

Speaker 1 You got a bad start, you're done. So, the 100 definitely is more crucial

Speaker 1 to understand.

Speaker 1 But if you got it, you got it. Yeah, so I had to

Speaker 1 give me talent to go from the 400 to the 100 meters.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the more strategy involved in the 400, right? There's a lot of more strategy involved in the 400.

Speaker 1 So, I feel like training is definitely the biggest part because

Speaker 1 what I'm glad about my transition from the 400 to 100

Speaker 1 was, all right, put the work in. So the 100 was definitely much easier for my body, but it's also more taxing.
But you definitely got to do more things that you ain't do.

Speaker 1 Like getting the gym more, get the strength, build your muscles up.

Speaker 1 400, you ain't necessarily had to do all the things and stuff.

Speaker 1 I did, but you definitely got to do way more in 100 meters. The small things matter the most and people don't understand that.
That makes sense. Do you feel like you're still getting faster right now?

Speaker 1 I feel like I'm still getting faster and still learning. It's just like, I'm still like at the beginning stage of my 100 career.
Really?

Speaker 1 So it's just like, yeah, I ran nine, seven, one medals at the Olympics and been the world championship. So I'm still young.
Like my body haven't never hit the peak yet.

Speaker 1 So it's just like, I'm still learning. So I feel like that's one of the most dangerous game, I would say.

Speaker 1 I'm still learning my body in the 100. Yeah, you want to go do this fast, but the training session don't tell me to go run this weekend.
So we kept building up the season and stuff.

Speaker 1 I feel like I'm still young. I'm still learning.
So that's the most dangerous thing with an athlete still learning how to run fast. And USA has a lot of fast 100-meter runners.

Speaker 1 Do you have like a mentor just that you can hit up whenever you want? I feel like my mentor is all the OGs, not only from USA, just from all over the country that came before me.

Speaker 1 I feel like like it's much easier now that I'm in the position to get to reach out to them anytime I want to, that I'm in the position to run fast, to understand the small things, how to transition through the phases and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's much easier now that I would say than I was in my 400 days and

Speaker 1 because of 400 days, it's like, You're by yourself, yes. It's just like, I'm just out there just how you do this.

Speaker 1 this how you got faster than this it's just like some 400 guys ain't want to give you the secret but the 100 guys i feel like it's more relaxing the 400 guys i could see that wow that's interesting yeah there's some some legends doing podcasts now from the 100 meter guy like justin gotlin i went on a podcast in september yeah yeah i was on his podcast it's definitely good in new york it was more much chill in locker room just kind of vibing were you uh were you getting along when you were both active runners um i got along with everybody oh yeah i don't be for nobody like my competitiveness is i hate everybody but as once we get outside the track and stuff we all friends if you um take my competitiveness um away from me i think you are um i think you're wrong so once i leave the track it's just i'm the probably the most chill person you can be around do you think track needs more competitiveness with uh like shit talking and stuff i feel like yes i feel like a lot of people soft yeah in track and field because they just

Speaker 1 think

Speaker 1 how do you best should say this i think a lot of people

Speaker 1 belittle them on they belittle their own self because they worry about what people are gonna say but if you're in your zone be in your zone don't change yourself because somebody else watching yeah people want to see that people want to see your be yourself around a lot of brands and stuff like

Speaker 1 things like that that. So if you can't be yourself,

Speaker 1 why do something that you love doing? Yeah. Yeah, I think Noah and Shakari are good for the sport, man.
Yeah, they definitely good for the sport. And I think I love it.

Speaker 1 But if you can't talk your stuff, why be a part of it? Yeah. So they talk their stuff, they back it up.
Absolutely. So it's the same thing with me.
I talk my stuff, I back it up.

Speaker 1 Is there still a big rivalry with USA and Jamaica? I feel like it's there, but I feel like it's dying down because USA is just taking over. Right.

Speaker 1 So it's just like we all competitors, but I feel like it's just dying down a little bit, but it's always going to be there for life.

Speaker 1 That's just the nature of the rivalry. But I feel like me and my dying down a little bit.
Yeah. Which sprinting record do you think is the most breakable at the moment? 100 meter, 200, 400?

Speaker 1 I feel like all of them are breakable.

Speaker 1 Just to be truthful, I feel like every record in a record book is breakable.

Speaker 1 You just got to do the small thing right. We all know we can run fast.
It's just small things that matter. Yeah.
How you can stand up tall. If you're doing the right stuff in the gym, your core,

Speaker 1 small things matter. Patient matter because you get up too fast, you can lose

Speaker 1 a decimal of a second.

Speaker 1 You get out your dry face too fast. You got your blots too wrong.
Just small details that matter and track and feel that. The outside world think, oh,

Speaker 1 he got like that. No.

Speaker 1 you know, you can run faster, but the small, the small, the small details matter to me. Yeah.
When Gallin came on, I asked if they should change the false start rule, and he said, yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you think about that? I feel like, yeah, you know, you should not false start. You should listen to the gun.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I feel like everybody deserves a second chance. Just don't do it again.

Speaker 1 Has that happened to you? False start?

Speaker 1 False start, no. Oh, okay.
So you're good. I never false start.
I ain't like that. I know of.
I ain't never false start. That's impressive.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Because I feel like that's happened to a lot of sprinters, right?

Speaker 1 I feel like the people that fall start, they don't want to be in the race. So they already got paid.
So they don't want to be in the race. Or they got injured or something.

Speaker 1 Are they dealing with some things at the time and stuff? And the coach probably tells them to do this

Speaker 1 or you can get into the next meet. Yeah.
Oh, so they get paid without even racing? People get appearance fees. Okay.

Speaker 1 So people show up for appearance fees and stuff, but if you don't finish the race, you ain't getting the prize money.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 Because you got to win to make the serious money, though, right?

Speaker 1 Win, yay, and they, you got to finish the race. Get some type of money if you finish the race.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do sprinters make more or the distance runners?

Speaker 1 Like the marathon runners.

Speaker 1 If I go to one,

Speaker 1 it depends on what you're saying. You talk about prize money,

Speaker 1 I guess.

Speaker 1 Overall, like on on a yearly basis, like, who's Megan Maher?

Speaker 1 I think the Sprinters, but who bring in the most money, the distant runners, because they sell the shoes. We ain't selling spikes, they sell the shoes.

Speaker 1 Like, people go to the marathons and see what sneakers and stuff they're wearing. Yeah, the us sprinters don't, we, we sell spikes, you ain't walking around with spikes.

Speaker 1 So, like, the distant runners actually sell the brand. That makes sense.
They sell the spikes.

Speaker 1 I mean, the tennis shoes, all the marathon marathon shoes they sell the shoes they probably got some big shoe deals yeah they probably got some i i don't i've never been in that position so i don't know but i know for a fact that nobody walk around in spikes yeah besides the the track at least the dissing runners sell the brand do you have a deal with a spike company no i'm a free agent right really yeah i feel like that'd be a no-brainer for a spike company

Speaker 1 like right now yeah but i'm dealing with some personal uh stuff but at the end of the it's always gonna be a brighter day so i can't complain about that i love

Speaker 1 um i want to talk about the olympic races so 2020 silver medalist what was the mindset going into that race

Speaker 1 i think that's probably out of all races 2020 probably was my

Speaker 1 most felt race like that's when my heart was probably beating the most wow because

Speaker 1 it was in uncharted territory

Speaker 1 First year doing 100 made it to the Olympic final.

Speaker 1 So did you expect that?

Speaker 1 I've always been in the top.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? So it was just like for that year, the 100 meters were not in the blueprint. It was the 400 meters.

Speaker 1 So going in that year, 400,

Speaker 1 I was a 400 guy, and the 400 was my blessing out of school. So 2020 was probably

Speaker 1 a different year as a whole. Me getting to know myself

Speaker 1 a week before trials, I decided to call my agent and say, I'm not doing the 400 no more and I'm going to go do the 100.

Speaker 1 Me.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 I know when I get into the groove of things, the groove of things, and everything starts clicking, clicking.

Speaker 1 That's like, oh, this about beat a piece of cake.

Speaker 1 But it was also a pressure on me because

Speaker 1 no one knew what I was thinking at the time. But I knew what I was thinking.
Got to get paid.

Speaker 1 So when I made it to the finals, I was like,

Speaker 1 it's all or nothing. But I felt like even when I read your question, that probably was the most race I want to redo back.
Really? Yes.

Speaker 1 All races, that's the one. Damn, you got second though.
That's pretty good. That's the one on all my races.
Even 2024, I don't feel no type of way about that.

Speaker 1 But 2021, I feel like probably the most, like, I need to redo that one best. You thought you could have won that one? Yes.

Speaker 1 How the difference with first and second? The same thing, like the last one. Oh, yeah? Yes, just a headshot away.
Damn. I must hurt.

Speaker 1 So it was just like that one, probably the most I would say I want to redo over because I know. who I was capable of doing and for that race.
So it's just like, it was uncharted territory for me.

Speaker 1 And the people that was in that race was probably went to more games than me, been to more 100-meter final than me.

Speaker 1 But I did that. What I did in 2021, no one in mankind ever did that.
Yeah. You had to switch the same year to make the finals.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's insane. So it was just like that one probably hurt me the most out of any races I ever raced.
Damn. College, high school, that's the one.

Speaker 1 That's crazy because you're still a silver medalist and it hurt you.

Speaker 1 That's the one that if I want to re-line that one up, same atmosphere, nobody understands, like the same pandemic happened, that's the one I want to redo.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that was COVID. That's the one I want to redo over again.
Do you think you race better in those conditions with no audience? I race better in any condition.

Speaker 1 I feel like as me, you really don't see no crowd. It's just like, you hear the voices that you want to hear.

Speaker 1 It can be billions billions of people saying you got your coach and whoever else you want to listen to you're locked in yeah you locked in like you don't really see your competitor it's just like a white sheet like you don't see nobody and once you get up probably like five to ten meters go

Speaker 1 you see the fence line and then

Speaker 1 we look up at the clock and then you start realizing oh it was a crowd in here so you i definitely don't really see nobody in standards when I be racing.

Speaker 1 It's just, I just black out and just see the gun. That's crazy because it's loud.
It'd be loud, but you don't be hearing it. It's your heart just beating, beating fast.

Speaker 1 And it's just a white sheet just around the whole stadium when I'm running. Damn, that's crazy.
And then 24 getting bronze. So you said you're fine with that racing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I felt like I was fine with that one, but a bronze that year felt like a gold medal to me. All the stuff I was dealing with.
I don't take that race back.

Speaker 1 It's just a learning experience for that race. But 2021, probably the one I want back the most.
If I had to redo any race over again, it had to be 2021.

Speaker 1 You decided for 28? That's going to be definitely going to be a title because it's home territory.

Speaker 1 LA. 2022, I did it at home.
2028, I'm going to do it at home, too. You're doing 100 only, or are you going to do 200? The 100, 200.
Maybe me and my coach think about the 400, but

Speaker 1 I just need to take me and complete

Speaker 1 my case. Silver, bronze, gold.
I'll be good. Oh, yeah.
Right into the sunset, after that. Riding to the sunset, that'd probably be my last one.
And time to get to the real money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What you plan on doing after this? I don't know. You don't know yet?

Speaker 1 Definitely get in the media, man. You know a lot of knowledge you could share with me.

Speaker 1 I definitely want to get into the media, but I definitely want to branch out to the youth, though, too, to teach them the value of a dollar. Because a lot of kids don't know the value of a dollar.

Speaker 1 And if I can do that, that would be a blessing to after that would probably bring me more joy than me doing a lot of other things.

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Speaker 1 Oh, you had that business side of you? What got you into that stuff? I got a business degree. Oh, yeah.
So I got barbershops. I got land.
I got a lot of stuff that God has been blessing me with.

Speaker 1 So I can't complain about that. But I definitely like a business mind because everybody around me, businessmind people.

Speaker 1 I feel like the best thing that ever happened to me when I left school was go to Arizona. And it was a bunch of business mind people around me.

Speaker 1 That's good, man. Cause a lot of athletes unfortunately go broke afterwards.
Yeah, because a lot of people don't know the value of a dollar.

Speaker 1 But I feel like once you know the value of a dollar, you can go a long way how to do the investment and how to do the stock market.

Speaker 1 But the stock market is just like real-life gambling, especially right now. So I feel like a lot of people don't understand how you put your money in stocks and bonds.

Speaker 1 That's still a form of gambling, but that's a form of

Speaker 1 how do you say that?

Speaker 1 Safer, I guess. It can be safer, yay, but it can't be safer right now because

Speaker 1 the thing is going. So it's just a like feel like the stock market, just a bigger form of gambling, but it's slow.
Like you can slow pace and stuff.

Speaker 1 You can go to a casino right here and they get and lose that right away.

Speaker 1 Dude, the market right now is looking shaky. Are you nervous?

Speaker 1 You're not nervous?

Speaker 1 You always put money away for a rainy day. Yeah, I got to have a rainy day fund.
Yep. Yeah.
Stocks and crypto are getting wrecked right now. Yeah, I see it.

Speaker 1 I'm on my phone like every morning and see how the stock go, but it's definitely up and down at the moment. Yeah, that's cool, man.
It's cool that you're thinking long-term like that.

Speaker 1 Always, because I feel like the right now always take care of itself. Because if you think about the right now, if you're in the right now,

Speaker 1 you're losing. So you got to think about the future always.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think a lot of athletes are so in the present. Well, they kind of have to be, right?

Speaker 1 Focus, but then they retire and they lose sense of purpose and meaning.

Speaker 1 Because I feel like a lot of people spin, spinning, spinning right now, but they don't understand it's life outside of once you get done with your sport or whatever career you're in, you can spend a million dollars.

Speaker 1 Make sure you, if you spend a million dollars, make sure you can go somewhere and get two million dollars right back. But originally you wanted to be an NFL player, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I originally wanted to be an NFL player because that's what I feel like that's what my ticket out of

Speaker 1 my surroundings

Speaker 1 until I broke my collarbone.

Speaker 1 Broke my collarbone, had to sit out for probably a couple of months, but was still like, it's still like you can still see the little nap and geez like right now.

Speaker 1 But football, I thought, was my ticket out,

Speaker 1 but God had other plans, so I ended up walking on to run track-ass outplanes and then get a scholarship today, you know. You started late, you're on him.
I

Speaker 1 it's not necessary, I always ran, and I took it seriously.

Speaker 1 So, every year we take like six weeks in school,

Speaker 1 school, like middle school, high school, six weeks during that timeframe to get right. But during that six-week timeframe, we're getting ready for seven-on-seven,

Speaker 1 five-on-five in the summertime for basketball and then go to weight training for two days

Speaker 1 and things like that.

Speaker 1 NFL is a tough one, man, with injuries. Yeah, so I glad I chewed her.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because now if you get injured, you can come back as a runner, right

Speaker 1 so i feel like

Speaker 1 you can

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 fracking fields just different beasts that people don't understand if i would have took the football route definitely won't be running because you gain a lot more muscle

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 you uh springer is like you gotta get power

Speaker 1 i feel like some

Speaker 1 football players don't understand this difference between that we actually do this year around, like y'all do football year-round.

Speaker 1 You're just not going to just hop on something and just think you're going to beat us. You probably can't even beat the women of our sport.
You think Tyree Kill could beat Shakari Richardson?

Speaker 1 No, really?

Speaker 1 Fast. Have you seen him? I see him, but she's fast, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel like a lot of people disrespect the greats. She was one of the greats in the

Speaker 1 time frame right now. So I don't think he'd be here.
In a 40-meter or so or 100 meters? 100 meters. Okay.
Yeah. 100%.

Speaker 1 I think 40, he might put up a 40. That'd probably be close, but I still think she's with dog.

Speaker 1 I show speed called her out. Did you see that? Yes.

Speaker 1 He's faster than people think, though.

Speaker 1 He's definitely faster than people. He's still young.

Speaker 1 So to him, I just got to see him. I don't know his background or nothing.
So I don't, nobody definitely knows Tyree. He raced Noah Lyles.

Speaker 1 Oh, I saw that. Yeah, but I don't think Noah was trying.
No, Noah's playing around. So you can't even put that together

Speaker 1 like that. So I feel like a play, I can play with people all day, let them win and stuff, and let them get their little thing

Speaker 1 and things like that. But you put some money on the line, it's a different story.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 How have you and Noah been getting along lately? Like, I don't talk to them. Okay.
So it's just like me, like, I don't really talk to a a lot of track athletes. Really? You got to stay in your own.

Speaker 1 It's not even about staying out in my own zone. It's just like most of us not around each other.
Like, we live in different states, different countries and stuff.

Speaker 1 So different cities. So I definitely don't talk to a lot of track athletes.
Like, people say I talk to them more at the track meet

Speaker 1 than away from the track meet. Oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's incessant. It's just that's how to take people.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I feel like we really don't talk to a lot of people.
Like us track athletes probably just stay in

Speaker 1 the surroundings and stuff. It's like who we grew up, we are, who we went to school with.
That's probably who we talk to the most. Yeah, I think it's a very individual sport.

Speaker 1 What about during the Olympics when you're traveling with everyone? Are you talking to them then? Like for the relay teams and everything?

Speaker 1 No. Really? It's like.
When we go to training, that's probably the most we probably talk to people. And then once we get back to the village, we go our separate separate ways that's interesting so

Speaker 1 you guys got to get that that bond you know so you don't drop the baton

Speaker 1 i i get it but

Speaker 1 i don't get it because once we leave the village it's like we still go into our own little world yeah we bond for

Speaker 1 the relay but tracks still an individual success just like um

Speaker 1 when you go get that gold medal ain't looking at the second place guy. They ain't looking at the third place.
They ain't looking at NOI in the final. They're looking at one person.
Like

Speaker 1 you're our relay probably can go win gold, such and such.

Speaker 1 Nobody really care about the relay besides the country itself. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We don't get no money or nothing for that. Oh, really? No.
Oh, I thought when you win a medal, you get money.

Speaker 1 Not really. Damn.
Like

Speaker 1 37K, they ain't doing nothing. Yeah, after taxes and cap, that's 15K.
Yeah, so it's just like, you got to understand that part. Yeah.
You're spending more on that on training and spying.

Speaker 1 So you got to, like, at least like our

Speaker 1 meets and stuff and

Speaker 1 the endorsement pay for that. So we basically travel for free.
Okay. But if we didn't get all that stuff, our country not paying us.

Speaker 1 So it's just like,

Speaker 1 it's a doggy-dogg world world outside, so you got to hustle no matter what. Yeah.
Yeah, there's not a lot of money at the Olympics. There's no money at the Olympics.

Speaker 1 Zero dollars. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 They're the best athlete in the world. Yeah, we don't get nothing.
No athlete gets money from the Olympic Games. That's so crazy because they make a lot of money off of it.
Billions. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But we don't get no money from Olympic Games. You think that should change? Definitely should change because a lot of

Speaker 1 not only my country, but a lot of other

Speaker 1 countries that are less fortunate than USA. Luckily, I'm a a part of the best country in the world, USA, to get all the benefits, to give our own shelfs and stuff like that.
And

Speaker 1 the Olympic village, we got our own.

Speaker 1 USA probably the best country hands down when it comes to the game scope.

Speaker 1 We on our own bubble. So we got the best of the best.
So without that, a lot of other countries don't. get the ACs, get the bands and stuff like we do.
So I'm definitely probably say,

Speaker 1 say, Paulo, I'm the best country when it comes to Olympic games. That makes sense.
Would you trade one of your Olympic medals for a million dollars? No. Really?

Speaker 1 That's a lot of money. There's a lot of money, but I don't think it's worth it.
Damn. Like, why would I trade something I work hard for?

Speaker 1 I said, just give me the million dollar plus the medal, but I would never trade none of my medals for no million dollars.

Speaker 1 That million dollar would be worthless.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it's a symbol of all your dedication and hard work, right? I probably put more money than into that medal than a million dollars. Yeah, so a million dollars is not not worth it.

Speaker 1 The top athletes spend six, seven figures a year on their bodies, right? Yeah, yeah, LeBron James. Yeah, so a million dollars definitely not worth it.
I definitely

Speaker 1 metal because I'm thinking I worked a lifetime since I was a youth for that medal, right? So, why do I trade that medal in for a million dollars?

Speaker 1 How common is cheating? Like, have you raced against people that were using substances before? Not that I know of. But it is, hey, what's the

Speaker 1 always come to the light?

Speaker 1 So if you get caught, you get caught. Yeah.
I wonder how common it is because I know a lot of fighters do it. Like,

Speaker 1 none of my races, nobody got caught, but whatever comes,

Speaker 1 wherever in the dark always come to the light. Yeah.
No matter what. Always karma, too.
Yeah, it's always going to come to the light. Do you think mainstream media should cover track more?

Speaker 1 Definitely.

Speaker 1 Track and field is lit outside of the Olympic Games. And if you follow the athletes around, you would get a better insight on life,

Speaker 1 track,

Speaker 1 and definitely all the other things that you think needs to know, not just about one person, but about all the athletes, because all the athletes in tracking field are great outside of just their sport.

Speaker 1 real life stuff

Speaker 1 with all the other athletes. I feel like every athlete from the United States to Europe to Africa to Asia to everywhere

Speaker 1 is definitely lit and definitely different cultures and stuff that involve in track and field. And definitely if you get involved with one person, I feel like you should get involved with everybody

Speaker 1 because I got friends that

Speaker 1 all countries and definitely different insight on culture eating

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 things like that. It's definitely fun to be around different athletes of a different culture.
Absolutely. You learn a lot when you travel the world.
Definitely, definitely.

Speaker 1 I learn a lot. I've been to every continent.
Damn. So that's cool.
Definitely love,

Speaker 1 definitely got a fan base everywhere. I definitely love my fan base because I can probably go to any country, just drop my location.
Somebody can be right there. That's cool.

Speaker 1 Eating the best food, all that stuff from the country itself. I got to hear from you.
What country had the best food? I feel like the Caribbean, Africa, UK, so-so. Yeah.
Not really, but so-so.

Speaker 1 But I feel like

Speaker 1 Kenya.

Speaker 1 Kenya? Yeah. Kenya,

Speaker 1 Jamaica, Morocco.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of countries I've been to that definitely has some good food.

Speaker 1 You know how you used to,

Speaker 1 when you was kids when grandma bring that big plate yeah he bring that big plate and you eat it you just want more more and more so it definitely

Speaker 1 ooh the food is probably one of the biggest things I'd go travel for I love that bro I'm the same way yeah so the food is probably one thing I travel for they got good food I know it's about to be good meat no 100% when I travel food is like top three most important things I think that's the top one besides my bed food is definitely the top one yeah

Speaker 1 if you can't get j with the food in the country, the trip will be pointless because you're going to be starving all day. Yeah, absolutely.
Well, what do you got next, man?

Speaker 1 Where can people get in contact with you, get in touch? My next meeting is Miami. The next Grand Slam.
Like, that's the next big one. But I got a relay meet.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Gangfield next week. Cool.
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