How I Built a Business Empire While Competing Globally | Fred Kerley DSH #1326

get paid so when i made it to the finals i was like it's all or nothing but i felt like even when i read read your question that's probably was the most race i want to redo back really yeah all races that's the one damn you got second though it's pretty good that's that's the one on all my races i don't feel no type of way about that.

All right, guys.

Got Fred here out in Vegas.

A rare city for him to attend.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Appreciate it.

Yeah, you got a fun night tonight, right?

A nice little fun night tonight.

You're in season right now, too.

Definitely in season.

The start of the season. So we will call this like relay season, preseason.

So our season will really start into championship season. Championship for us it started whenever we get past usa so you're just warming up right now it's just preseason getting body getting the body tune and stuff for the big show later season and you guys have a long season like compared to most athletes right you're running so our season really year-round believe it or not because you got um some countries starting different seasons some countries start in October some countries in fact it's just a year round sport so you got to keep your body in tune year round yeah have you ever had some burnout of course I feel like one burnout season probably was 2023.
2022, after I got done, just like you used to get drained of traveling and all that. Yeah.
Yeah, because traveling takes a toll on your body. Like travel week in the week out, and I feel like the outside world don't understand that.
It's a blessing to travel though too yeah but it's also wearing terror on your body also 100 whenever i fly somewhere i have a runny nose i get sick yeah if you don't have the right team around you i feel sorry for you or like for like the massage therapists and coaches and stuff because you got to get back into the flow of things yeah i had la sean merritt on a few months few months ago, and he was talking to me about that. He has a chiropractor fly with him everywhere.
Yeah, you got to have that because track and field take a toll on your body and stuff. You can perform at a meet good, and then the following week you're not performing.
So you got to understand that you're going to have the ups and downs and stuff because you got to get your body rejuvenating into the time zone you're in and stuff like that. I think track's one of the most mental sports too.
I feel like track is definitely one of the most mental sports it is because it's all about patience. Like if you don't got the mental game you really don't got nothing in track and field because we all know we can run fast.
Yeah. So running fast is like the easy part is all just things on the outside of stuff that a lot of people don't understand that go into the track and field.
Is there a lot of politics involved with how the races operate? There's a lot of politics. Like which lane you get, if you got the best agent.
How does the agent matter? If you got a good agent, I can tell my agent I don't want this other person in the race. Damn.
I didn't know that. It's like the small little things that go into the thing.
Or I don't want this person next to me. Put them in the outside lane.
I want somebody slower on the side of me for it can make me look good and stuff um just like the small things that a lot of outside people don't understand has that happened to you where someone didn't want you part of the race you found out of course of course especially my 400 days oh yeah 100 days not so much because it's just like the competitiveness I've been sending definitely in my 400 days I had people that it won't mean this to them. I wonder wonder why there's such a difference with the 400 and 100 different mentality maybe.
I feel like the 400 whoever whoever got the biggest balls so whoever got the biggest balls and then the 100 is just like mach motto and motto. Either you got it or you don't.
The 400 is the same way, but you got to have the biggest balls in the 400. You have to step in the 400.
It's like an all-out sprint. Yeah.
And whoever can decelerate the fastest, I mean the slowest in the 400, that's the person who's going to win. Right.
They say the 400 is the toughest race in track and field, right? I would say yay and nay because we ain't training for it. If you just think you can just have the endurance to outrun somebody, I could tell you you're wrong.
But you got to have the speed and endurance at the same time. Like, if you don't got both of them, you shit out of luck.
Right. Because you need to finish strong to to finish strong to win I feel like you gotta conserve a lot of energy or be on point you can't go out too fast you can't go out too slow if you go out too slow you're not catching up if you go out too fast you're gonna die so you gotta have a medium in that I remember a lot of people questioned why you transitioned from the 400 to the 100 right i feel like people still asking me to um right now because i don't think people understand how easy and hard it was to translate translate from the 400 to 100 the 400 to the 100 it's definitely hard definitely my first year, even though I did stuff that people took a lifetime to do, it's definitely hard to do because you got to race fast every day.
Training different. Like, speed hurt.
Yeah. Like, even though the 400 hurt, speed actually hurt.
I remember some training sessions and stuff. I'm like, I better go back to the 400 because you ran so fast, but you tax on your body so much that people don't understand how much speed actually do hurt.
You got to recover from that. Some days you don't get to recover.
You got to go fly on the weekend. So speed definitely hurt.
But my transition from the 400 to 100 was definitely much easier than I expected because I ended up meddling my first year out. But the following year, I had to get grounded and understand from the training and stuff, the phases of the 100 meters.
And I felt like it was definitely harder in 2022 and 2023. I'm still learning because you can't do what I did in the 400 where you can just, like, it's all about racing 100.
Like, from the finish to the get-go. Like, in the 400, you got phases where you can critique in the 400.
You can't't critique nothing fast in the 100. Once somebody's gone, they're gone.
You can't catch a 9, just like you can't catch a 43 if you run a 43. In the 100, it's just like this.
The 400, you still got a whole lap to fish some things and stuff. It's just like that.
You got a bad start're done. Yeah, you got a bad start, you're done.
So the 100 definitely is more crucial to understand. But if you got it, you got it.
So I had to give a talent to go from the 400 to the 100 meters. Yeah, the more strategy involved in the 400, right? There's a lot more strategy involved in the 400.
So I feel like training is definitely is the biggest part because what I'm glad about my transition from the 400 to 100 was, all right, put the work in. So the 100 was definitely much easier for my body, but it's also more taxing.
So you definitely got to do more things that you ain't do. Like in a gym more, get the strength, build your muscles up.
400, you ain't necessarily had to do all the things and stuff. I did, but definitely got to do way more in 100 meters.
The small things matter the most, and people don't understand that. That makes sense.
Do you feel like you're still getting faster right now? I feel like I'm still getting faster. I'm still learning.
It's just like I'm still like at the beginning stage of my 100th career. Really? So it's just like, yeah, I ran 9-7, won medals at the Olympics, been in the World Championship.
So I'm still young. Like my body having never hit the peak yet.
So it's just like I'm still learning. So I feel like that's one of the most dangerous game, I would say.
Yeah. I'm still learning my body in the 100.
Yeah, you want to go do this fast, but the training session don't tell me to go run this weekend. So we're building up the season and stuff.
I feel like I'm still young. I'm still learning.
So that's the most dangerous thing, at least still learning how to run fast. And USA has a lot of fast 100-meter runners.
Do you have like a mentor just that you can hit up whenever you want? I feel like my mentor is all the OGs, not only from USA, just from all over the country that came before me. I feel like it's much easier now that I'm in the position to get to reach out to them anytime I want to, that I'm in the position to run fast, to understand the small things, how to transition through the phases and all that stuff.
So it's, it's, it's, it's much easier now that I would say than I was in my 400 days. And because of 400 days, it's like...
You're by yourself.

Yes.

It's just like, I'm just out there just, how do you do this?

How you got faster than this?

It's just like, some 400 guys ain't want to give you a secret.

But the 100 guys, I feel like it's more relaxed than the 400 guys.

I could see that.

Wow.

That's interesting.

Yeah, there's some legends doing podcasts now from the 100-meter guy, like Justin Gatlin. I went on a podcast in September.
Yeah. I was on his podcast.
It was definitely good in New York. It was much chilling in the locker room.
Just kind of vibing. Were you getting along when you were both active runners? I got along with everybody.
Oh, yeah? I don't be for nobody. Like, my competitiveness is, I hate everybody.
Once we get outside the track and stuff, we all friends. If you take my competitiveness away from me, I think you are.
I think you're wrong. So once I leave the track, it's just, I'm probably the most chill person that you can be around do you

think track needs more competitiveness with uh like shit talking and stuff i feel like yes i

feel like a lot of people soft yeah in track and field because they just think how you best to say

this i think a lot of people belittled them all they belittled their own self because they worry

about what people want to say but if you in your zone be in your zone don't change yourself

Thank you. belittled them all they belittled their own self because they worry about what people want to say but if you in your zone be in your zone don't change yourself because somebody else watching yeah people want to see that people want to see your be yourself around a lot of brands and stuff like things like that so if you can't be yourself why why do something that you love doing yeah yeah i think noah and Noah and Shikari are good for the sport, man.
Yeah, they definitely go for the sport. And I think I love it.
But if you can't talk your stuff, why be a part of it? Yeah. So they talk their stuff.
They back it up. Absolutely.
So it's the same thing with me. I talk my stuff.
I back it up. Is there still a big rivalry with USA and Jamaica? I feel like it's there, but I feel like it's dying now because USA's just taking over.
Right. So it's just like, we all compare to this, but I feel like it's just dying down a little bit, but it's always going to be there for life.
That's just the nature of the rivalry. But I feel like it's dying down a little bit.
Yeah. Which sprinting record do you think is the most breakable at the moment?

100 meter, 200, 400?

I feel like all of them breakable.

Just be truthful.

I feel like every record and record is breakable.

You just got to do the small thing right.

We all know we can run fast.

It's just small things that matter.

Yeah.

How you can stand up tall. If you're doing the right stuff in the gym, your core, small things matter.
Patient matter. Because you get up too fast, you can lose a decimal in a second.
You get out of your drive phase too fast. You got your blood so wrong.
Just small details that matter and track and field that. The outside world think, oh, a guy like that, no.
You know you can run fast, but the small details matter. When Gatlin came on, I asked if they should change the false start rule, and he said, yeah.
What do you think about that? I feel like, yeah, you should not false start. You should listen to the gun.
But I feel like everybody deserves a second chance. Just don't do it again.
Has that happened to you, false start? False start, no. Oh, gosh.
You're good. I never false start.
I ain't, like, that I know of. I ain't never false start.
That's impressive. Yes.
Because I feel like that's happened to a lot of sprinters, right? I feel like the people that fall start, they don't want to be in the race.

So they already got paid, so they don't want to be in the race.

Or they got injured or something.

Or they dealing with some things at the time and stuff.

And the coach probably told them, do this.

Or you can get into the next meet.

Yeah.

Oh, so they get paid without even racing?

People get appearance fees.

Okay.

So people show up for appearance fees. Okay.
So, people show up

for appearance fees

and stuff,

but if you don't finish the race,

you ain't getting

the prize money.

Mm.

Yeah,

that makes sense.

Um,

because you gotta win

to make the serious money

though,

right?

Win,

yay,

and nay,

you gotta finish the race.

Okay.

Get some type of money

if you finish the race.

Yeah.

Do sprinters make more or the distance runners?

Like the

marathon runners?

If I go to

one,

it depends on what you're saying. You talk about

prize money? I guess

overall, like, on a

yearly basis, like who's making more?

I think the sprinters, but

who bring in the most money?

The distance runners, because they sell the shoes.

We ain't selling spikes. They sell the shoes.
Like, people go to the marathons and see what sneakers and stuff they wear. Yeah.
Us sprinters don't, we sell spikes. You ain't walk around with spikes.
So, like, the distant runners actually sell the brand. That makes sense.
They sell the spikes. I mean, the tennis shoes, all the marathon shoes, they sell the shoes.
They probably got some big shoe deals. Yeah, they probably got some.
I don't, I've never been in that position. I don't know, but I know for a fact that nobody walk around in spikes besides the track, at least.
The distant runners sell the brand. Do you have a deal with a spike company? No, I'm a free agent right now.
Really? Yeah. I feel like that'd be a no-brainer for a spike company.
Like right now, yeah, but I'm dealing with some personal stuff. But at the end, it's always going to be a brighter day.
So I can't complain about that. Well, though.
I want to talk about the Olympic races. So 2020 silver medalists, what was the mindset going into that race? I think that's probably the all races.
2020 probably my most felt race. Like that's where my heart will probably be the most.
Wow. Because it was uncharted territory.
First year doing 100, made it to the Olympic final. So did you expect that? I've always been in the top.
You know what I'm saying? So it was just like, for that year, the 100 meters was not it. And the blueprint, it was the 400 meters.
So, going in that year,

I was a 400 guy.

And the 400 was my blessing out of school. So,

2020 was probably

a different year

as a whole. Me getting

to know myself

a week before trials,

I decided to call my agent

and say, I'm not doing the 400 no more more and I'm going to go do the 100. Me.
So, but, I know when I get into the groove of things, the groove of things, and everything start clicking, clicking. I said, oh, this is about to be a piece of cake.
But it was also a pressure on me because no one knew what I was thinking at the time. But I knew what I was thinking.
Got to get paid. So when I made it to the finals, I was like, it's all or nothing.
But I felt like even when I read your question question that's probably was the most race i want to redo back really yes all races that's the one damn you got second though that's pretty good that's that's the one on all my races even 2024 i don't feel no type of way about that but 2021 i feel like probably the, like I need to redo that one back. You thought you could have won that one? Yes.
How's the difference with first and second? The same thing like the last one. Oh, yeah? Yes.
Just a headshot away. Damn.
I almost heard. So it's just like that one, probably the most, I would say, I want to redo over because I know what I was capable of doing for that race.
It was uncharted territory for me. People that was in that race probably went to more games than me, been to more 100-meter finals than me.
I did that, what I did in 2021. No one in mankind never did that.

Yeah.

You had to switch the same year to make the finals?

Yes.

Yeah, that's insane.

So I was just like, that one probably hurt me the most out of any races I ever raced.

Damn.

College, high school, that's the one.

That's crazy because you're still a silver medalist and it hurt you.

That's the one that if I want to reine that one up, same atmosphere nobody understands, like the same pandemic happened, that's the one I want to redo over again. Oh, yeah, that was COVID.
That's the one I want to redo over again. Do you think you race better in those conditions with no audience? I race better in any condition.
I feel like as me, you really don't see no crowd. It's just like you hear the voices that you want to hear.
It can be billions of people saying, you got your coach and whoever else you want to listen to. You're locked in.
Yeah, you're locked in. Like, you don't really see it.
It's just like a white sheet. Like, you don't see nobody.
And once you get up probably like five to ten meters ago, you see the tennis line. And then we look up at the clock, and then you start realizing, oh, it was a crowd in here.

So I definitely don't really see nobody in the stands when I be racing.

I just black out and just see the gun.

That's crazy because it's loud.

It'd be loud, but you don't be hearing it.

Your heart just beating, beating fast. It's just a white sheet just around the whole stadium when I'm rerunning.
Damn, that's crazy. And then 24 getting bronze.
So you said you're fine with that. Yeah, I feel like I was fine with that one.
But bronze that year felt like a gold medal to me with all the stuff I was dealing with. I don't take that race back.
It's just a learning experience for that race. But

2021, I'm the one I want

back the most. If I had to redo

any race over again,

it had to be 2021.

You decided for 28? That's going to be a big one.

I'm definitely going to be excited because it's

home territory.

L.A.? 2022, I did it

at home. 2028, I'm going to do it at home too.
You're doing 100 only or are you going to do 200? 100. L.A.
2022, I did it at home. 2028, I'm going to do it at home, too.

You're doing 100 only, or are you going to do 200? 100, 200. Maybe me and my close think about the 400, but I just need to take, I mean, complete my case.
Silver, bronze, gold hook. I'll be good.
Oh, yeah. Right into the sunset after that.
Right into the sunset. That'll probably be my last one and time to get to the real money.
Yeah? What you plan on doing after this? You don't know yet? Definitely get in the media, man. You know a lot of knowledge you could share with.
I definitely want to get into the media, but I definitely want to branch out to the youth though too to teach them the value of a dollar because a lot of kids don't know the value of a dollar. And if can do that that would be a blessing to i feel that probably bring me more joy than me doing a lot of other wow i didn't know you had that business side of you what got you into that stuff i got a business degree oh yeah so i got barbershops i got land i got a lot of stuff that um god been blessing me with so i can't complain about that but i definitely I definitely like a business mind because everybody around me business mind people.
I feel like the best thing that ever happened to me when I left school was go to Arizona. And it was a bunch of business mind people around me.
That's good, man. Because a lot of athletes, unfortunately, go broke afterwards.
Yeah, because a lot of people don't know the value of a dollar. Right.
But I feel like once you know the value of a dollar, you can go a long way how to do the investment and how to do the stock market. But the stock market is just like real-life gambling.
Especially right now. So I feel like a lot of people don't understand how you can put money in stocks and bonds.
That's still a form of gambling, but that's a form of how do you say that?

Safer, I guess.

It can be safer, yay, but it can't

be safer right now because

the thing is going.

It just feels like the stock market

is just a bigger form of

gambling, but it's slow. You can slow

pace it. You can go to a casino

right here in Vegas and lose that right

away.

Dude, the market right now is looking shaky. Are you nervous? You're not nervous? No.
You always put money away for a rainy day. Yeah, gotta have a rainy day fund.
Yep. Yeah, stocks and crypto are getting wrecked right now.
Yeah, I see it. Because I'm on my phone like every morning and see how the stock go.
But it's definitely up and down at the moment. Yeah, man it's cool that you're thinking long term like that always because i feel like the right now always take care of yourself because if you think about the right now if you're in the right now you you losing stuff you gotta think about the future always yeah yeah i think a lot of athletes are so uh in the present well they kind of have to be right focused but then they retire and they lose sense of purpose and meaning because i feel like a lot of people spin spin spin right now but they don't understand it's life outside and once you get done with your sport or whatever career you're in you can spend a million dollars make sure you if you spend a million dollars make sure you can go somewhere and get two million dollars right back but originally you wanted to to be an NFL player, right? Yeah, I originally wanted to be an NFL player because I feel like that was my ticket out of my surroundings until I broke my collarbone.
Broke my collarbone. I had to sit out for probably a couple of months.
You can still see the little nap in the light right now. But football, I thought it was my ticket out.
But God had other plans. So I ended up walking on to run track at South Plains and then get a scholarship today.
You started late running. It's not necessarily.
I always ran. I took it seriously.

So every year we take like six weeks in

school,

middle school, high school,

six weeks during that time frame

to get right. But during that

six week time frame,

we getting ready for seven on seven,

five on five

in the summertime for basketball,

and then go to weight training for two days and things like that.

NFL is a tough one, man, with injuries.

Yeah, so glad I got two thudder.

Yeah, because now if you get injured, you can come back as a runner, right?

So I feel like you can, but can feel just different beasts mmm that people don't understand if I would took the football route definitely won't be running because gain a lot more muscle mmm I gave spring is like you gotta get The power. I feel like some football players don't understand this different between that we actually do this year around like y'all do football year around.
He's just not going to just hop on something and just think he's going to beat us. He probably can't even beat the women of our sport.
You think Tyreek Hill could beat Sha'Carri Richardson? No. Really? Mm-mm.
Fast. You seen him? I see him, but she's fast, too.
Yeah. I feel like a lot of people will disrespect the greats.
She was one of the greats in our time frame right now, so I don't think he'd beat her. In 40 meters, though, or 100 meters? 100 meters.
Okay, yeah, 100. I yeah, 140 he might put up a fight.
That'd probably be close, but I still think she's a doggone. I sure speed called her out.
Did you see that? Yes. He's faster than people think, though.
He's definitely faster than people. He's still young, so to him, I just got to see him.
I don't know his background or so I don't know I definitely know Tyree he raced Noah Lyles oh I saw that yeah but I don't think Noah was trying no Noah's playing around so you can't even put that together yeah like that so I feel like a play play I can play with people all day let them win win and stuff and let them get their little fame and things like that. But you put somebody on the line, it's a different story.
Yeah. How have you and Noah been getting along lately? Like, I don't talk to them.
Okay. So it's just like neat.
Like, I don't really talk to a lot of track athletes. Really? You kind of stay on your own? It's not even about staying in my own zone.
It's just like most of us not around each other. We live in different states, different countries and stuff.
So different cities. So I definitely don't talk to a lot of track athletes.
Like people say, I talk to them more at the track meet than away from the track meet. Oh, that's interesting.
I don't think it's in session. It's just that's how the tech.
Yeah. I feel like we really don't talk to a lot of like us track athletes probably just stay in the surroundings and stuff.
It's like who we grew up with, who we went to school with. That's probably who we talk to the most.
Yeah, I think it's a very individual sport.

What about during the Olympics when you're traveling

with everyone?

Are you talking to them on?

Like for the relay teams

and everything?

No.

Really?

It's like,

when we go to training,

that's probably the most

we probably talk to people.

And then once we get back

to the village,

we go our separate ways.

That's interesting.

Oh.

You guys got to get that bond, you know know so you don't drop the baton I get it but I don't get it hmm once we leave the villages like we still go into our own little world yeah we bond for the relay but tracks build an It's just like when you go get that gold medal, they ain't looking at the second place guy. They ain't looking at the third place guy.
They ain't looking at N-O-I in the final. They ain't looking at one person.
You're our relay party. We can go win, go such and such.
Nobody really cares about the relay, besides the country itself. Yeah.
We don't get no money or nothing for that. Oh, really? No.
Oh, I thought when you win a medal, you get money. Not really.
Damn. Like, 37K? I ain't doing nothing.
Yeah, after taxes and cash, that's 15K. Yeah, so it's like, you like you gotta understand that part yeah you're spending more on that on training and yes so you gotta like please like our like meets and stuff and the endorsement pay for that so we basically travel for free okay but if we didn't get all that stuff our country not paying us so it's just's like, it's a dog-eat-dog world outside, so you got to hustle no matter what.
Yeah, there's not a lot of money at the Olympics. There's no money at the Olympics.
Zero dollars. That's crazy.
You're the best athlete in the world. Yeah, we don't get nothing.
No athlete get money from the Olympic Games. That's so crazy, because they make a lot of money off of it.
Billions. Yeah.
But we don't get no money from Olympic Games. You think that should change? Definitely should change because a lot of, not only my country, but a lot of other countries that are less fortunate in the USA.
Yeah. Luckily, I'm a part of the best country in the world, USA, to get all the benefits, to give our own chefs and stuff like that.
And the Olympic Village, we got our own. USA probably the best country when it's hands down when it comes to the Games Code.
We own bubble. So we got the best of the best.
So without that, a lot of other countries don't get the ACs, get the bears and stuff like we do. So I'm definitely probably going to say probably they're one of the best countries when it comes to Olympic Games.
That makes sense. Would you trade one of your Olympic medals for a million dollars? No.
Really? Uh-huh. That's a lot of money.
That's a lot of money, but I don't think it's worth it. Damn.
Why would I trade something I work hard for?

I said, give me the million dollar plus the medal,

but I would never trade none of my medals for no million dollars.

That million dollar would be worthless.

Yeah, because it's a symbol of all your dedication and hard work, right? I'd probably put more money into that medal than the million dollars.

Yeah, that's true.

The million dollars is not worth it. The top athletes spend six, seven figures a year on their bodies, right? Yeah.
Yeah, LeBron James. Yeah, so a million dollars is definitely not worth a medal.
Because I think I worked a lifetime since I was a youth for that medal. So why do I trade that medal for a million dollars? How common is cheating? Like, have you raced against people that were using substances before? Not that I know of, but it is.
Hey, what's the order always comes to light? So if you get caught, you get caught. Yeah.
I wonder how common it is because I know a lot of fighters do it. Like, and my ratios that nobody got caught but whatever come Whatever in the dark always come to the light.
Yeah, no matter what I always karma to it Always gonna come to the light. Do you think mainstream media should cover track more? Definitely is tracking fields outside the Olympic Games And if you follow the athletes around, you will get a better insight on life, track, and definitely all the other things that you need to know, not just about one person, but about all the athletes.
Because all the athletes in track and field are great. Outside of just their sport is real life stuff with all the other athletes

I feel like every athlete

from United States to Europe to Africa

to Asia to

everywhere like

it's definitely lit

definitely different cultures and stuff

that involve in track and field

and definitely if you get involved

with one person I feel like you should get involved

with everybody because

I got friends that

Thank you. that involve in track and field.
And definitely, if you get involved with one person, I feel like you should get involved with everybody.

Because I got friends that,

all countries,

definitely different insight

on culture, eating.

Yeah.

And things like that

is definitely fun to be around

different athletes

of a different culture.

Absolutely.

You learn a lot

when you travel the world.

Definitely, definitely,

like, I learn a lot. I've been to every continent damn so that's cool definitely love

definitely got a fan base everywhere i definitely love my fan base because i can probably go to any

country just drop my location somebody can be right there that's cool eating the best food

all that stuff from the country itself i gotta hear from you what country had the best food

Thank you. somebody can be right there.
That's cool. Eating the best food, all that stuff from the country itself.

I got to hear from you.

What country had the best food?

I feel like the Caribbean,

Africa,

UK,

so-so.

Yeah.

Not really,

but so-so.

But I feel like Kenya.

Kenya?

Yeah.

Kenya, Jamaica, Morocco. Kenya Kenya yeah can you Jamaica Morocco it's a lot of countries I've been to that definitely has some good food I can't like when you know how do you use it when you when you was kids when grandma bring that big play yeah he bring that big play and you eat it you just want more more and more so it definitely oh the food is probably one of the biggest thing i'd go travel i love that bro i'm the tamar yeah so the food fight horn thing i travel for you got good food i don't know it's about to be good meat no 100 when i travel food is like top three most important things i think that's the top one besides my bed food is definitely the top one yeah if you can't get with the food in the country the trip could be pointless because you're gonna be starving all day yeah absolutely well what you got next man where can people get in contact with you get in touch my next meet is miami the next grand slam like that's the next big one but i got a relay meet um and gamesville next week cool thank you guys and uh we'll link your social media above all below

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