The Hidden Energies of Las Vegas I Lorie Ladd DSH #1324

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Speaker 7 Or the anxiety I may have, whatever it is.

Speaker 7 You know, a lot of people in the spiritual community, in the new age community, at least, they get

Speaker 7 angry with that,

Speaker 7 triggered by it because we shouldn't depend on anybody or we shouldn't give our power away. So that's definitely something I've been trying to soften into people.

Speaker 7 It's like, you're not giving your power away.

Speaker 4 Okay, guys, got Lori here in Las Vegas. Yes.

Speaker 4 What's the energy been like here for you so far? Well,

Speaker 7 it has, when I landed, I felt this like heavy

Speaker 7 cloak just come down. I was like, what is this?

Speaker 7 It was heavy. And then I'm staying at the Palazzo, which is right downtown.

Speaker 7 And a girlfriend of mine lives here. We were talking.
And all of a sudden, I just started getting these like visions

Speaker 7 of this like galactic war that's happening here.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, what is this?

Speaker 4 Like

Speaker 4 it felt dark and heavy.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 like there's a battle happening.

Speaker 7 You know, there's some sort of energetic battle happening specifically in this area. And maybe it's because like,

Speaker 7 There's a lot of galactic activity in deserts.

Speaker 7 um and so maybe that's part of what i was tapping into but it feels like the dark and the light kind of fighting wow you know but in like a non-physical space uh yeah i was i was kind of taken aback i wasn't expecting it and i had crazy dreams really dude i was up all night

Speaker 4 all night like nightmares

Speaker 7 more like disturbing oh wow like

Speaker 4 dark

Speaker 4 not nightmares just dark I wonder if you were picking up on previous energy of

Speaker 4 in your room.

Speaker 7 Oh, God. Because there's a lot of,

Speaker 7 there's a lot of weird stuff that's because it was kind of like this weird sexual, like

Speaker 7 torturous kind of, and I'm like, where's this? It was, you're right.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of legal prostitution in the high, high, high-end hotels. Like these girls will be walking around.
I bet that's what it was. And they bring them up to the room.

Speaker 7 Because even when I walked into the room, even when I was in the shower, I was like, oh, like I could feel like, okay, wait, weird shit has happened in this hotel room.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 7 But I didn't see it. I just went to galactic energies too, because I feel like our subconscious is very

Speaker 7 tricky. It's very, it's, it's, it's where a lot of that, you know, the unconscious behaviors play out.

Speaker 7 And I feel like on a collective level, that's kind of what

Speaker 7 the battle is right now is the dark, like the dark thoughts that we have and the dark behaviors that we have

Speaker 7 battling the

Speaker 7 more kind compassionate loving behaviors that humanity is moving into and so I feel like Vegas is like this like

Speaker 7 the epitome of that dark and light they call her Sin City yeah but it's like I mean I've been here so many times and

Speaker 7 something

Speaker 4 I wonder if

Speaker 4 politics has something to do with that I don't know right now because it's a lot of uncertainty with the market with stocks and everything.

Speaker 4 Maybe.

Speaker 7 I don't know. It's just, it's, it's wild.

Speaker 7 I mean, I live in Northern California, and the difference between the energy in Northern California and here for me was in Northern California, it just feels like we're being poisoned by 5G.

Speaker 7 It's just like legitimate, like you're just breathing in

Speaker 7 toxin

Speaker 7 everywhere. Toxic, toxic, but inner, you know, the 5G energies.

Speaker 7 Where Vegas is like, oh, no, no, no, no. There is a real freaking battle happening here.
Like, there are some galactic things happening in your skies where it's like the good versus the bad.

Speaker 4 That's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Like, like Star Wars type stuff.

Speaker 4 We are kind of close to Area 51. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Like, really.

Speaker 7 Because I think when you come to Vegas, I mean, I grew up in LA. So I remember coming to Vegas in the 90s.
And it was like, what, what happens in Vegas? Jesus, Vegas. You know, that old saying, right?

Speaker 7 So like you could kind of play out all your dark shadows. Right.

Speaker 7 And so, if you think about places on the planet where the shadow is being played out, almost like it's being like, you can, you can be in your dark shadow here.

Speaker 7 You can, this is, we're going to hold space for this dark shadow.

Speaker 4 Um,

Speaker 7 and it amplifies it, right? So, so if you think about where the, the darker pockets may be amplified or exaggerated or gifted, like, yes, it's okay. Do all the stuff.

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Speaker 7 And then you have this, like, these higher-dimensional galactic beings that are coming in trying to like

Speaker 4 clean it or purge it.

Speaker 7 I don't even know what they're doing, but

Speaker 7 I take my hat off to you guys that are living here.

Speaker 4 Well, I hear from a lot of my spiritual guests that fly in and stay on the strip that they hate it here. Yeah.
I think the energy is super heavy, right?

Speaker 7 Yep, it is. I, I, it was like, I feel claustrophobic.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Really claustrophobic. Um, almost suffocated.

Speaker 4 Dang. Yeah.

Speaker 7 It's really,

Speaker 7 I was like, man, I wouldn't be able to, to, I wouldn't be able to live here.

Speaker 7 But for those of you that are living here and like, you know, holding down the fort, it's like, there's so much light

Speaker 7 work kind of being done here,

Speaker 7 really being anchored here.

Speaker 7 It's interesting. A lot of people that are awakening and,

Speaker 7 you know, and doing their own kind of inner work and whatnot.

Speaker 7 They're positioned in places that are, they're not all, you know, they're not necessarily the spiritual spots of the world.

Speaker 7 They're the heavy, dark,

Speaker 7 you know, intense places. Yeah.

Speaker 7 That's the work that

Speaker 7 so many of you guys came here to do, you being one of them. You know, if you hold a place like this and anchor a spot like this

Speaker 7 in a, in a town like Vegas, there's a lot of work that you're doing that you can't see. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, are you seeing heavy energy in any other cities in America or places?

Speaker 7 You know, I haven't, I've been to Kenya more than I have anywhere else. Wow.
Yeah, I've been to Kenya like five or six times this year.

Speaker 4 That's crazy. You love it there.
I love it. I love it.
I might go to Uganda this year.

Speaker 4 Oh, really? Yeah, I just got invited out there.

Speaker 7 Oh, my God, you should go. Really? A hundred billion percent.
You've got to go.

Speaker 7 Any invitation to East Africa or Africa in general, but East Africa, there is something special about

Speaker 7 that area.

Speaker 7 What are you going to to Uganda for?

Speaker 4 Do they call it a leader out there? Or whoever runs it invited me out to do

Speaker 4 a podcast. Yeah.
President.

Speaker 7 Oh, the president of Uganda. Yeah.
Invited you for a podcast.

Speaker 4 Film him a podcast with him. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Oh my God. You have got to go.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Sounds really interesting.
I've never been to Africa.

Speaker 4 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I do, I do a lot of safaris. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I do. Yeah.
And I'm actually running a, doing a safari next in June with, with 20 people. Nice.
Yeah. i take them out there um totally different than the spiritual kind of work

Speaker 7 out there like what's out there everything lions

Speaker 4 um

Speaker 4 uh

Speaker 7 my mind blank oh elephants um rhinos you got another buffalo well you go with a guy you know like a tour company yeah

Speaker 7 um but if you go to uganda

Speaker 7 you got to take the time to do some stuff when you're out there. They're known for gorillas and monkeys.

Speaker 4 I was looking it up earlier today.

Speaker 7 Oh my God, the the gorillas you got to do the gorilla you can go and like hike yeah

Speaker 7 and

Speaker 7 but like and they're wild gorillas and you just get to hang out with them i've seen videos of that they're huge just walking by you

Speaker 7 or they'll just chill yeah and they'll be like petting their you know they're like they're like humans but in the gorilla body you know um but they feel like when you're around well i haven't been around gorillas but i've been around a lot of different types of monkeys and they're they're you you can tell they're super duper intelligent.

Speaker 7 Yeah, monkeys are smart, yeah, and they're like taking care of their babies the way. I mean, you can just tell that they're thinking

Speaker 7 how we would think, yeah, you know. Um, dude, you gotta go.
I was supposed to do the gorilla track

Speaker 7 last December, but I didn't get, I don't know, my travel got all messed up, but um,

Speaker 4 talk about talk about you know

Speaker 7 a place on the planet that is

Speaker 4 um

Speaker 7 the reason i love that area so much is that it has

Speaker 7 a real physical

Speaker 7 you can really see the dark and the light there really yeah like you can see the heavy kind of

Speaker 7 darker agendas playing out like right in front of your face it's not like hidden like in the united states it's hidden yeah you know the dark agendas are hidden it's like wolf in sheep's clothing.

Speaker 7 So it, everything looks real pretty, but behind it is all the darkness.

Speaker 7 And in parts of Africa, it's like you can't, you see the

Speaker 7 suppression. You see the

Speaker 7 you see it all right in front of your face, but

Speaker 7 the heart and the love and the godliness of these people,

Speaker 7 it's just on another level.

Speaker 4 I could see that. It's a whole other level.
Even Chat GPT, I asked like what they're known for. It said hospitality.
So the people there are really, really nice.

Speaker 7 Like, yeah, I got goosebumps. Like a whole different, like they are literally

Speaker 7 like the embodiment of God, in my, in my opinion.

Speaker 4 Like, wow.

Speaker 7 They're, but then they live in, in countries that are so impoverished and so suppressed that it's, it's so heartbreaking.

Speaker 7 So, but

Speaker 7 I've never met a group of

Speaker 7 people. in a country that has been more

Speaker 7 just beautiful in nature.

Speaker 4 I love that. Oh, it's yeah.
What drew you out there originally? Was it just to find some more purpose?

Speaker 7 Well, I was going through a breakup and I was like, where do I want to go?

Speaker 4 Egypt or Kenya?

Speaker 7 I just wanted to go to some place that would just be very different.

Speaker 7 And I was like, well, Egypt feels a little,

Speaker 7 I'm not ready for Egypt.

Speaker 7 And I had a friend that lived in Kenya. So I was like, okay, let's do Kenya.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 4 I fell in love with it.

Speaker 7 Oh my God, it dropped me into my soul, dropped me into my body, dropped me into a deeper relationship with Yeshua, deeper relationship with God. I mean, it just shook me.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 7 To so many, just, yeah. So I just kept going back.

Speaker 4 Six times this year already. I just kept going back.
So last April too. So you're going every two, three weeks.

Speaker 7 No, this was last year.

Speaker 4 Oh, last year. Okay.
Yeah. Last year I went like five.
times maybe yeah wow yeah love it there yeah you're doing a lot of spiritual work out there too Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah. A lot of yeah.
And I I it has Kenya that land in general Africa the continent has a way of

Speaker 7 really shifting you, but Kenya has a way of

Speaker 7 really

Speaker 7 pulling you into your soul and into your body.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I need that.

Speaker 7 If you have an invitation to go

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think I'll take it. Uganda also is the, I think it's, don't quote me on this, but I believe it might be the

Speaker 7 third largest population of orphaned children in the world.

Speaker 4 It's that bad out there.

Speaker 4 That's sad.

Speaker 7 I know. Yeah, it's, it's pretty, it's pretty intense.

Speaker 4 And you got to,

Speaker 4 yeah.

Speaker 7 But you got to see the, you got it, you got it, you got to see the way the people live and the way they are.

Speaker 4 That's why I love traveling, just get new perspectives, new culture,

Speaker 4 new food, everything.

Speaker 7 And especially if you go to third world countries, I think

Speaker 7 they really have a way of

Speaker 7 grounding you.

Speaker 7 Have you ever been to Africa at all?

Speaker 4 Not at all. Oh, wow.
It's the one continent I haven't been to yet. Okay.
Been everywhere else. Wow.

Speaker 7 Do you travel a lot?

Speaker 4 Been to like 20 countries. So

Speaker 4 a decent amount.

Speaker 7 Wow. And you still do all of this and travel?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Well, now with this, I can do it while I travel.
So it kind of works out even better.

Speaker 7 Oh, that's so cool. So you'll book interviews where you're traveling.

Speaker 4 Pretty much. Yeah.
That way I can write off the trip to business expense.

Speaker 7 That's so awesome.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 7 Where did you go most recent?

Speaker 4 I've only done domestic. So I've done Miami, Austin, Texas was cool, New York City.
But I want to start doing international this year. Yeah.
Yeah. Like Europe, Asia, and Africa.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Even Australia would be cool. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Oh, my God. That's awesome.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I can't wait.

Speaker 7 Oh, I hope Africa grabs you like it grabbed me. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'll let you know how it goes. Have you been having any any visions lately?

Speaker 7 What kind of visions? I mean, I always have visions. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 4 I have them every day. I have them every day.

Speaker 7 I literally am.

Speaker 7 I feel like I live in two worlds.

Speaker 7 I feel like I live in this very physical, grounded, human world, right? We're very human

Speaker 7 existence, which I love so much. I love being human, but I also feel like I live in the non-physical realm a lot.

Speaker 7 I feel like I'm always seeing

Speaker 7 what's happening. So I've always, I've been this way for most of my life, but

Speaker 7 I have this way

Speaker 7 of seeing what we're experiencing right now, like seeing the evolution in human consciousness, seeing the chaos, seeing everything.

Speaker 7 through

Speaker 7 more of like an energetic lens.

Speaker 7 So like this morning, I was seeing, I was kind of visualizing all of us in a fishbowl, you know, and each of us have our, we're, we're our own unique individual fishes kind of swimming around, um, having whatever experience we're having.

Speaker 7 And the entire fishbowl is shaking, right? So like there's this collective shake and every fish in there is like, what the fuck's going on? You know, like, oh my God, some people are super chill.

Speaker 7 Some people are having the time of their lives. Some people are super, like, just struggling and suffering.
And meanwhile, we think it has everything to do with us.

Speaker 7 Like, oh, there's something wrong with me, blah, blah, blah. And it's just this this collective shake.

Speaker 7 So I see these things a lot.

Speaker 7 It's kind of how I

Speaker 7 it's always there on top of, you know, just

Speaker 7 doing the everyday normal human physical thing.

Speaker 4 So even with your eyes open, you're getting them?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I see it all the time.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Whoa.

Speaker 7 Like when I was seeing the galactic stuff yesterday.

Speaker 7 It's like when you when someone shows you a picture, right?

Speaker 7 And you see, like someone, let's just say you see a painting or someone shows you a picture of something and then you walk away and you go do things, but you always have that like remembrance of that picture, right?

Speaker 7 It's not physically right in front of you, but you can see that picture. You know what I mean? Like you have that awareness.

Speaker 7 You could pull that picture up if you if you wanted to,

Speaker 4 right?

Speaker 7 Like this picture right here, if you were walk away and to go have lunch or something and you

Speaker 7 brought your awareness to this picture, even though it wasn't in front of you. You could see it.
Yep. Okay.
It's like that. Interesting.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 So it's like, it's not, I can't physically see anything, but I have the awareness that there's something that I'm seeing other things.

Speaker 4 Wow. And you've always had that for as long as you can remember.
Yeah. Interesting.

Speaker 7 That's how my book came through. My book, The Divine Design, it came in as stories.
So I would sit, like a movie.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 It came in as a movie. It was so wild.
That's crazy. Yeah.
So I would sit there and I'd close close my eyes and, um,

Speaker 7 and then I would be shown

Speaker 7 a movie scene kind of of like what was going on on the planet or how galactic ships fly and how it all works. They would, it was a movie scene that I would see.

Speaker 4 Um

Speaker 7 they were showing me like alien abductions and how that works and so many crazy things. And it was fascinating to me because it was literally like I was watching a movie.

Speaker 7 so I was really like oh keep going keep going and then I just took that information like imagine somebody's like here's a movie you're gonna watch now go write it so I'd be like oh my god I have to go write what I just saw and

Speaker 7 but it was a knowingness also it wasn't just so it's weird because a lot of people are like oh you're crazy or you know what I mean like you see it all the time but there's a knowingness around it like

Speaker 7 it just feels right It's like, okay, this just feels like,

Speaker 7 like, if someone were to say, what's your name? And you're like, oh, my name's Sean Kelly. It's like, well, how do you know that? You're like, I just know my name.

Speaker 7 I mean, granted, it was a name you were given, but there's a knowingness that you have around it.

Speaker 7 That's how it's always been with information that comes through me. It's like, it's just an absolute.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 7 I just, I don't question it.

Speaker 7 But the world around you can be like, you're crazy.

Speaker 4 Yeah. It's like

Speaker 4 you're probably used to that at this point. Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You got to be kind of numb in this industry. Right.
The criticism.

Speaker 7 Oh my God. Do you get it a lot?

Speaker 4 I get it a little bit, but a lot of my guests get it. Like the channeling video I just showed you, like she was getting destroyed in the comments.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah. It's a rough world out there.
I don't get it as bad as I was back in 2020 and 2021, 2022.

Speaker 4 I got it bad. Oh, I bet.
I got it bad.

Speaker 7 I got it real bad back then. So I got, I was able to kind of get some tough skin.

Speaker 4 Um,

Speaker 7 and so it's not as bad right now for me, yeah. Although, I started talking about Jesus, and dude, you start talking about Jesus, that's a divisive topic, forget up, dude.

Speaker 7 That's worse than the galactics, is it?

Speaker 4 Oh my god, yeah, oh, yeah, it's like I don't know what it is. A lot of programming in modern day religion, too deep programming, yeah, a lot.

Speaker 7 I'm like, wow, we're not even aware of how programmed we are are

Speaker 7 because we can't, we don't even recognize that we're responding from a programmed state.

Speaker 7 So if you can't even recognize that you're responding from a programmed state,

Speaker 7 we are deeply programmed. What that means is like, if I say the word Jesus,

Speaker 7 for a lot of people,

Speaker 7 there's an unconscious sort of

Speaker 7 go-to response that you don't even realize you have, which is like,

Speaker 7 you know, oh,

Speaker 7 control, power, manipulation, gross. You just go to these places,

Speaker 7 you know,

Speaker 7 priests, religion. There's just things that just pop in, right? Not good, worship, bow down to, whatever it is.

Speaker 7 And you're not even aware that you're going to these places. It's just an immediate response to the word Jesus.

Speaker 7 And so it's this, it's this deeper awareness of how programmed we are

Speaker 7 with freaking words

Speaker 7 and breaking that apart, like really starting to break apart the deep, deep programming

Speaker 7 that has us so conditioned and watching the triggers

Speaker 7 that happen to people.

Speaker 4 What were you saying specifically about Jesus that triggered people?

Speaker 7 I just started talking about him. Like, I'm like, yo, you guys, listen.
I know I've been in the spiritual, I've been in like the new ages kind of spiritual realm for, for, quite some time.

Speaker 7 And,

Speaker 4 um,

Speaker 7 and the awakened community, right? Like talking about all the true stuff.

Speaker 7 And I just started sharing about how Jesus has been coming into my life. Wow.

Speaker 7 Um, and like doing these miracles and getting rid of demons that are, have been around me and like crazy demon experience that I've never experienced in my my life.

Speaker 7 I never even believed in demons. Really? Never.
I was like, there are no demons. I don't believe in demons.
You can, you can just, you know,

Speaker 7 command and demand and the demons are out.

Speaker 7 Dude, no.

Speaker 4 That changed.

Speaker 7 No way. Like I,

Speaker 7 when I started just like, okay, so here's what happened. I basically was like, okay, yes, Shoeb, you're cool.
You seem like a real cool dude. I was just having a conversation with him one morning.

Speaker 7 And I'm like, I would, I don't, I would love to be able to

Speaker 7 embody life the way you did. Like to really be able to walk the way you walked on this planet.
Like,

Speaker 7 how, like, I want to practice being in these states more and more. This was like a year and a half ago, not from religion.
It wasn't like, I don't, I didn't want to do the religious route.

Speaker 7 I don't like programmed, dogmatic, structured stuff. Don't tell me what to do.
I'll do the opposite. Right.
So if I'm not going to, it's just what I, I can't stand when people tell me what to do.

Speaker 7 But I wanted to learn from him. And because I can channel and because I can connect to energies, it would be, it's easy for me.
I wanted to learn from him sort of his ways.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 so I just started inviting him in. And man, oh man, six months later,

Speaker 7 there's like demonic attack after demonic attack after demonic attack.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 I remember him saying to me, this really happened in December, like almost where I lost my mind.

Speaker 7 Like I almost had like a psychotic break where it was like, they came in, the demons came in so strongly, I almost felt like I was going crazy.

Speaker 7 And I'd never felt that before.

Speaker 7 I mean, it was like you could hear the demons. It was, and I'm like, holy fuck, dude, this is what is in people's minds.

Speaker 7 You know, when like people want to commit suicide or they want to go kill someone or they do bad things, a lot of it is this demonic energy.

Speaker 4 I could see that. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 so he was like, I'm right here. You know, just say my name and the demonic energies will be gone.

Speaker 4 Oh, so that actually works? Cause I've heard that. Do that shit work.
Say Jesus Christ.

Speaker 7 You say Jesus Christ when demons are around. You remember like the movie, you might be too young, but do you ever, did you ever watch the movie?

Speaker 4 Exorcist. Thank you.
Yeah. I've seen clips, but not the original one.
Okay.

Speaker 7 So if you watch the movie, they have the priest come in. We've seen these before.
You know, the priest comes in and does his little thing, and then he holds up the little cross, right?

Speaker 7 And then the demons are supposed to flee or come out of the body. Dude, I never believed that.
I was like, no way. That's all like religious, dogmatic stuff.
There's no, it's really,

Speaker 7 like,

Speaker 7 it

Speaker 7 is completely real. Wow.

Speaker 4 That's good to know.

Speaker 7 And I experienced it multiple times. Like nothing else worked.
So I can connect to the Galactic Federation. I can connect to angels.
I can connect to

Speaker 7 you name it and I'll connect to it. And I've connected to them all

Speaker 7 and nothing has worked.

Speaker 7 Nothing has worked like saying Jesus Christ. Wow.
Nothing. Immediately, it's like they, it's like there's something about it.
There's a power behind it.

Speaker 7 And listen, I have, I never would have imagined that i would be saying these things out my mouth like about jesus and about that what it what you know the more i go into working with him and being with him the more i get attacked demonically um

Speaker 7 the more i get tested i mean i got malaria in kenya

Speaker 7 a couple like a week before my retreat started so i'd been there for like seven six weeks Everything was good and chill. And then I just got attacked through with this malaria.

Speaker 4 that's through mosquitoes right yeah supposedly

Speaker 7 yeah that's a whole rabbit hole a weapon yeah that's a whole yeah it's like where did aids come from you know like because you know when i got malaria you know what it felt like it did you ever get covid yes i did actually when you had covid did it feel

Speaker 7 When I got COVID in December 2020, it felt like it was man-made.

Speaker 4 The first time I got it, it felt man-made. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Didn't it feel like it was metallic and like,

Speaker 7 like it didn't feel real?

Speaker 4 No, it felt so foreign. Right.

Speaker 7 It felt like you were, your body was fighting something that was not supposed to be in the body in the first place. Yeah.
That's how malaria feels.

Speaker 7 So I was like, okay, well, this is interesting. Cause I was like, this is how COVID felt to me.
And

Speaker 7 it felt man-made, you know? But anyway, that's a whole other thing. But

Speaker 7 Yeah, so, and then when I was on my retreat, I got demonically attacked. There's a, there's a picture of a, of a demonic energy going up my leg.
Are you serious? Yeah. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 7 I was doing a meditation and I was doing this meditation connecting us with the galactic beings.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 7 it was

Speaker 7 not good. It was, I felt off the whole, the whole time I was doing the meditation.

Speaker 7 And a participant took a picture of me before the meditation started as I was standing there.

Speaker 7 And I'll show you the picture after.

Speaker 4 Can we throw it up on the screen?

Speaker 7 Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 when you screen when you when you um zoom in,

Speaker 7 dude, I don't care who you are, like what kind of skepticism you have, like it, you can see faces

Speaker 7 and it's going up my leg,

Speaker 7 one of my legs, the energy, the light, or the whatever was in the picture. And it's not an orb where you're like, oh, that's just the reflection.
No, dude, this is like something's going up my leg.

Speaker 7 And what ended up happening, I did this meditation galactic connection thing for about 25 minutes. And at the very end, my eyes were closed.

Speaker 7 And at the very end, I felt some, I didn't know she had taken this picture and there were demonic things going up my legs.

Speaker 7 But towards the very end, I felt something rush past my leg and it jolted me because I thought that somebody had.

Speaker 7 in the in the group had jumped up and moved past me. Like it was so physical that it jolted me

Speaker 7 like, and I jumped up and like literally jumped like six feet.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 7 And I opened my eyes and then I closed my eyes back up. And I was like, all the light that was with us, all the energies that were with us

Speaker 4 were gone.

Speaker 7 And it was like black. It was dark.
Like nothing was there. And I was like, wait a second, something just moved past my leg.
All of the like really beautiful energy that was there was gone.

Speaker 7 And it was just this

Speaker 7 like really heavy voided energy that was there.

Speaker 7 And I'm like, okay, you guys, something weird just happened. And I had to tell everyone, like, I don't know what the heck that just happened, but it doesn't feel good.

Speaker 7 And that was just one. And the fact that like we got the photo of the

Speaker 7 demonic energy was just

Speaker 7 kind of like, oh my God. Yeah, that's what I felt.
I felt something rattling me, trying to take me off guard, like push me off my center.

Speaker 7 And it's real.

Speaker 7 Like this stuff is real that's happening right now on the planet. And we think that it's us, right? Like we have these thoughts and it's all in the mind.

Speaker 7 So I speak of it in terms of, and I see it in terms of energy, but it

Speaker 7 infiltrates our minds.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 It takes over our minds. And so we think it's us.
And it's like this, this really crazy spiral that we, that we find ourselves in um

Speaker 7 and so i don't know you know it's interesting

Speaker 7 because i've been a spiritual teacher and i've been connected to the galactic beings and and all of that like higher realm stuff

Speaker 7 and what's so fascinating right now is

Speaker 4 um

Speaker 7 how i'm being pulled deeper and deeper into the more human grounded experiences that we're having and

Speaker 7 the more kind of wow there's these really heavy demonic energies that are taking over humanity and it's very physical it's very on the planet it's not

Speaker 7 the stuff that's infiltrating us isn't

Speaker 7 out here it's like

Speaker 7 here ground level yeah and so it's just interesting that i've been brought to a relationship with Yeshua more and more because

Speaker 7 in my experience, it's the only thing that works right now.

Speaker 4 Wow. That's scary.

Speaker 7 It's very kind of freaky. Like,

Speaker 4 it's,

Speaker 7 you know, it's the only thing that I've found that works. And what I, what I mean by that is like, when we find ourselves in really dark places, that's the only thing that has helped me

Speaker 7 get through it.

Speaker 7 Even with my crazy thoughts I may have or the anxiety I may have or whatever it is.

Speaker 7 And, you know, a lot of people in the spiritual community, in the new age community, at least, they, um,

Speaker 7 they get uh angry with that. They get triggered by it because

Speaker 7 we shouldn't depend on anybody or we shouldn't give our power away. And so that's definitely something I've been trying to

Speaker 7 soften into people is like, yeah, you're not giving your power away. You're just asking for freaking assistance right now.

Speaker 4 Yeah. You You know, I could see that divide, though, with the religion community and the spiritual community.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's,

Speaker 7 and why is, and like my whole piece is like, why does there have to be a divide with all any, why did it, why is there always a divide?

Speaker 7 I mean, of course, we live in duality and polarity. So, I mean, that's a big piece of why

Speaker 7 we live in that consciousness, but there's, there always has to be two sides.

Speaker 4 Always.

Speaker 7 You know, it's like

Speaker 7 we can't just be in it and just let it all just be there. There's always got to be this side or that side.

Speaker 7 So freaking tired of it. It's like,

Speaker 7 it's black or it's white. It's good or it's bad.
It's yes or it's no. And it's like,

Speaker 7 and with Jesus, it's the same thing. It's like, all right, you're either religious or you're, you know,

Speaker 7 you can't just see that this man did this incredible freaking feat on the planet. He has this incredible story.

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Speaker 7 And maybe it's true, maybe it's not true, but like, wow, we can all just like hold space for

Speaker 7 what the history of this thing of this man was.

Speaker 7 You know, there's, there's i'm i don't know man it's it's

Speaker 4 i had it's a lot that's why i'm careful with labels you don't want to label yourself and then you're trapped yeah like

Speaker 7 it's well i love that about your show is that you have such diversity on your show yeah because you can't really pinpoint you no

Speaker 7 Like I don't, you couldn't say, oh, he's a this, like, you know, how most podcasters,

Speaker 7 they have a genre.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 You know what they're going to do for the most part, right?

Speaker 7 Even if it's like a mainstream type of

Speaker 7 people that interview,

Speaker 7 even Joe Rogan, right? Like you could look at Joe Rogan and you could still kind of label him as,

Speaker 7 I don't know, like maybe more of like,

Speaker 7 you know, he interviews every, there's still like a,

Speaker 7 you can still kind of,

Speaker 7 with a label, you get to understand things.

Speaker 7 So when you look at Joe Rogan, there's an understanding of what he does.

Speaker 7 So, if you don't have a label, you can't grab the person.

Speaker 7 You can't,

Speaker 7 you don't, there's less, there's more, you can't expect.

Speaker 7 There's not an expectation.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't feel restricted. Yeah.
Like, I'll have conversations with just about any race, religion. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 Right. Anything that, like, think about how freeing that is.

Speaker 4 Yeah. There's no,

Speaker 7 the less labels you have, the less of an expectation. And the, the,

Speaker 7 people can't, they can't grab. They don't, they don't know what's going to come next.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 we don't like it in some ways. We like to, there's a comfortability in knowing like, okay, I know exactly what to expect with this person.
This is the label I'm going to give them, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 7 And when you don't have that, it's, people don't like it necessarily.

Speaker 4 No, they don't. You know?

Speaker 7 They have their opinions and their judgments and what you should and what you shouldn't do.

Speaker 7 But it's the most freeing thing.

Speaker 4 Super freeing. Right? It's amazing.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 You can just do whatever you want. Just be myself.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 How long have you been doing this?

Speaker 5 Two years.

Speaker 4 That's it? Yeah, two years. But I filmed a lot of episodes.
Holy cow.

Speaker 7 I thought you've been doing this for a really long time.

Speaker 4 I know. It seems that way because I post so much.

Speaker 7 Wow. What made you decide to start doing a podcast?

Speaker 4 When I really look into it, it was finding purpose in life life when I actually like sit down and think about it. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Was that, did you know you were starting it because not at the time.

Speaker 4 Well, kind of. I was like not in a good mental state at the time and didn't have any guidance or purpose.
And

Speaker 4 yeah, this really helped me find some.

Speaker 7 What were you doing before?

Speaker 4 Crypto.

Speaker 4 Okay. I was a crypto nerd.

Speaker 7 Oh, wow. I just bought my first half crypto, half Bitcoin last year.
Oh, nice.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Half of Bitcoin.

Speaker 7 can't go wrong with bitcoin yeah so you were doing crypto and then

Speaker 7 something came something inside of you was like there's a purpose that i have or i want to be of purpose i want to be of service yeah because like just chasing money all day for a year straight gets kind of boring when you're just chasing crypto did you know that you liked to interview because you have to like to interview people uh i didn't i was actually really nervous and shy and introverted

Speaker 4 wow yeah but i developed it over time and now i love it. I've been in conversations.

Speaker 7 Dude, it's a skill. Yeah.
I cannot interview people. Really? Oh, no, no, no, no.
I can't.

Speaker 4 You're really easy to talk to.

Speaker 7 I've tried to interview people and I'm like, no, we're not going to do that ever again. Interesting.
That was a disaster.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 But I'm always fascinated. It's a, it's a, it's a, most people don't realize it's a skill.
It is. You can't just go in and interview somebody.

Speaker 4 My first few episodes were terrible. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 You're like, oh, this is a skill set.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I had to put in the reps.

Speaker 4 So these demonic attacks. Do you think it's reptilians? Like, who do you think? Do you think it's coordinated? Do you think it's different types of groups attacking or?

Speaker 7 Oh, the demonic. Okay, so this demonic energy that I felt.

Speaker 7 Okay, so I'm going to explain to you. So what it, what, what it was like was I was,

Speaker 7 so I don't have a TV in my house.

Speaker 7 Smart, honestly. Yeah, I don't have a TV, but I do have, I do watch Netflix and all of that on my laptop screen.
Okay.

Speaker 7 And I do do it when I go to bed, which is not conducive to like a peaceful sleep necessarily. But these demonic energies came through my laptop.

Speaker 4 Really? They could go through devices?

Speaker 7 Oh my God. That's how they get, that's how they get us a lot of the time.

Speaker 4 Oh my god.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's, that's, that's why

Speaker 7 I don't think that this technology, this advanced technology is good.

Speaker 7 I don't think anything on a screen is good, no matter what it says, because

Speaker 7 these

Speaker 7 energies work through what I was shown is they work through

Speaker 7 where our focus is.

Speaker 7 They can come through the screens and they have, you know, back in the day, TV is, we, we learned that TV was programming, right? So you, you move into like an, I don't know what state of,

Speaker 7 you go into like a beta state or a theta, I don't know what state your mind, your mind goes into like a, a numbed out state when you watch TV.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 7 Whatever that is, where you're just like, you don't even realize you're watching TV. You're just kind of numbed out.
Well, it's the same thing with all of our devices now.

Speaker 7 And anywho, so these demonic energies are coming from the earth. They're coming from the ground.
It's almost like the astral realm, but

Speaker 7 in the ground, like not physically in the ground, but like

Speaker 7 on the planet. They're coming from the planet.

Speaker 7 It's like some sort of realm that we have created as humans

Speaker 7 that's just like,

Speaker 7 I mean, very similar to kind of Vegas energy, right? Where it's like all the darkest, yuckiest stuff that we've done in the world is

Speaker 7 like, like it expands.

Speaker 7 That like all the yucky shit that we've done throughout human history has expanded into these kind of demonic energies. So the reptilian energies are very different.

Speaker 7 I'm more afraid of the demonic energy than I'm the reptilian energy. Reptilian energy has nothing on the demonic energy.
Damn.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Here I am dealing with reptilians.

Speaker 7 No, I'm telling you, give me a reptilian energy any day over the demonic energy. Yeah.
I've never been scared. I've channeled and I've connected with the reptilian energies.

Speaker 7 I've seen how dark they can be.

Speaker 7 To me, the reptilians are just... a higher level of consciousness that's playing in greed and power and control.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they be messing with me in my dreams sometimes.

Speaker 7 Well, Well, because you probably have a lot of really,

Speaker 7 you probably have a lot of knowledge or intelligence,

Speaker 7 higher dimensional intelligence

Speaker 7 that

Speaker 7 they know they can mess with, right? So

Speaker 7 maybe they're stopping it. Maybe they're blocking it.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Maybe they're trying to confuse you. So it's like

Speaker 7 one

Speaker 7 really intelligent energy playing with another really intelligent energy, right?

Speaker 7 So they're an intelligent energy, you're an intelligent energy, you may not realize that you are, okay, because you just feel like a human, but you have this advanced technology in you that may or may not be activated yet, okay?

Speaker 7 And so then the reptilians are just playing with you.

Speaker 7 They're just messing with you.

Speaker 7 They're trying to move you off center, get you to doubt certain gifts you may have, certain knowinesses, certain intelligence, you know, intuitions, whatever that is, right?

Speaker 7 So the reptilians are more, they're playing the game with us in the sense they have definitely overtaken

Speaker 7 a percentage of humanity in terms of their bodies, right? So they come in and they, they,

Speaker 7 the reptilian, what the reptilians do is they, they take over your, they, they kind of move into your body and can take over your they push your soul back. Wow.
You know what I mean? So, so

Speaker 7 it's like they overlay your soul in a way. It's not happening to the same degree that it was thousands of years ago.

Speaker 7 And in fact, it's kind of, it's not amplifying now, but they are still, there is a small percentage that's still here playing out in the human forms.

Speaker 7 And then of course,

Speaker 7 from a higher perspective and like more of a

Speaker 7 in the higher dimensional realms,

Speaker 7 they're playing out their games up there in terms of wanting to have that power and that control and taking over the

Speaker 7 planetary evolution, which isn't going to happen.

Speaker 7 But that is very different than that's higher intelligence, right? Just being assholes.

Speaker 7 Demonic energy,

Speaker 7 that is like,

Speaker 7 because it takes over your mind, it's very scary. Oh, man.

Speaker 4 I'm going to haunted museum museum after this. Oh, you are?

Speaker 4 Oh. Zach Bagans has a haunted museum in Vegas.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 7 No, you'll be fine because demonic energy comes in like,

Speaker 7 it comes in through like

Speaker 7 desires.

Speaker 7 Tricky. Like,

Speaker 7 let's, I think that's why, honestly, like a lot of addictions,

Speaker 4 I think it's demonic energies. Wow.

Speaker 7 I do.

Speaker 7 Alcoholism, alcoholism i heard can link you with the demonic world or yeah i think and like honest like okay so one time i don't smoke weed yeah

Speaker 7 because it moves me into like a paranoid state i don't smoke i can't do it i get anxiety right so the last time i smoked weed

Speaker 7 i was like with a friend of mine i'm like dude i really don't want to smoke and he's like just take one hit of this weed weed nowadays is like on a whole other level oh yeah it's like not normal one hit and you're you're knocked out.

Speaker 4 Okay, I didn't know this.

Speaker 7 So this was like two years ago. I take one hit from this dude's joint.

Speaker 7 And I'm like, and I'm, I have an addictive personality. So I will just, I'm either all in or nothing, right? So I can't just be like, oh, yeah, I'll just take one hit.

Speaker 7 So I was like, oh, okay, I'll take another hit. I took two hits from this dude's joint.

Speaker 7 And I was high. I'm not even kidding for about 15 hours.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I was laid out on his,

Speaker 7 I was laid, it was not good. I was laid out on his

Speaker 7 doggy bed. He has a huge doggy bed.

Speaker 4 Human-sized dog beds. Yeah.
I have one of those.

Speaker 7 Yeah. They're like massive, right? I laid out, I was laying on that for hours and I went into the astral realm.
I went into that demonic realm. Now, back then, I didn't know that this demonic realm

Speaker 7 was as powerful as it is now, like on the planet, but it was the same kind of demonic realm that I felt in my bedroom. And I'm sure you've experienced it.

Speaker 7 It's really where, like, you hear all those like

Speaker 7 really dark thoughts, right? Or like, you hear voices telling you, like,

Speaker 7 these, this person's mean, or bad, or evil, or go hurt this person, or

Speaker 7 you're not, you're like, just like, like,

Speaker 7 I don't even know, like, like, it's almost like you can't even hear actual sentences. It's just this, like, these demonic little like

Speaker 4 like

Speaker 7 just like oh gives you the heebie jeebies

Speaker 4 um

Speaker 7 but it's a realm it's like a a space almost that they exist in

Speaker 7 uh i i was there when i smoked weed and um

Speaker 7 you know it's

Speaker 7 what it is is when we drink or when we smoke or when we do these things, it opens a portal.

Speaker 4 It's like, yeah, because it lowers your vibration.

Speaker 7 And then you, yeah, and then it opens, and then they just come,

Speaker 7 they come in.

Speaker 7 But in December, when they came in and tried to mess with me and make me go crazy almost, I wasn't doing anything.

Speaker 7 I wasn't like drinking or smoking or anything. It happened like late at night, but I was watching my laptop and I heard the voice.

Speaker 7 I can't remember what I was watching. I don't think it was, although I do.
I used to watch a lot of Dateline.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I used to watch a lot, and I can't anymore because

Speaker 7 it's too much.

Speaker 4 I can't, literally,

Speaker 7 I just want to be with like animals. I like on my on my Instagram feed now, it's just animals and

Speaker 7 like prayer, animals and prayer, animals.

Speaker 7 I can't handle anything else right now. Like, it's too much.
Um, because what I'm aware of now is like, oh man, these

Speaker 4 what we're battling is

Speaker 7 it's tricky. It's it's like

Speaker 7 it's gonna make us feel like

Speaker 7 we're being relieved.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 7 You know, almost like

Speaker 7 I'm gonna give you a piece of candy and you're gonna feel better.

Speaker 7 And then if you take the candy, the energy comes in and

Speaker 7 starts to infiltrate the mind. So

Speaker 7 it's like anything that

Speaker 7 we, I have to be super conscious of um

Speaker 7 things that

Speaker 4 like uh

Speaker 7 the easy way, yeah,

Speaker 7 um, the shortcuts. Um, this will relieve you, this will relieve your pain.

Speaker 7 And I mean, that's really the whole world right now: is like, take the easy way, here's a shortcut, here's will this will relieve your pain, this will relieve your suffering.

Speaker 4 Um,

Speaker 7 and it's like it's like going cold turkey to something, you know, just I'm just gonna, I'm being in everything that is being thrown at me. I'm gonna feel everything, I'm gonna be in everything.

Speaker 7 Like, I'm going, I'm white, like, it's like a white knuckling, you know, when you stop drinking. It's like, I'm not drinking, I'm not drinking, I'm not drinking.

Speaker 7 It's like the moment we give in to these little temptations right now, oof.

Speaker 4 That's why is a dangerous one, too. A lot of guys are addicted to that.
A lot of guys,

Speaker 4 a large majority of humanity is addicted to that.

Speaker 4 And,

Speaker 7 you know,

Speaker 7 it's such an interesting topic because

Speaker 7 if you start thinking about what we do in our lives that brings us,

Speaker 7 that alleviates

Speaker 7 anything, alleviates boredom, alleviates

Speaker 7 stress, alleviates

Speaker 7 irritability.

Speaker 7 There's nothing wrong. We just want to pay attention to it, you know, because

Speaker 7 there is something a little bit more

Speaker 7 mischievous in it now, energetically.

Speaker 7 It's pulling us from our souls. It's pulling us from our bodies.
It's pulling us from being able to... And some people will listen and say, well, all I'm doing is watching.

Speaker 7 And it's like, no, you're, you're, you're literally like

Speaker 7 now on the planet. Okay.
It's very different than it was 10 years ago. Energetically, it's very different on the planet.

Speaker 7 And so

Speaker 7 now when you play in these

Speaker 7 vices that we have,

Speaker 7 it's almost like we are disassociating. That's the word.

Speaker 7 The whole planet is becoming more numb. It's like a disassociation, and we're not even aware of it.

Speaker 7 You know, it's like numbing out, numbing out, numbing out, numbing out, and we don't even realize it.

Speaker 7 So we're not even, it's not, it's not a conscious thing. We just think we're doing life.
It's like, no, we're becoming more numb. We're becoming more, more numb.
Maybe we're becoming more numb.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 when we do that, we are

Speaker 7 we're allowing for, without consciously being aware of it, these more darker energies to come in and infiltrate our minds. The next thing you know,

Speaker 7 our minds are continuing to run the show in a, in a much more intense way.

Speaker 7 And it's, and that's how, that's the, that's what's happened. That is the, the overtaking of the planet right now is the mind.

Speaker 4 Yeah, becoming an NPC, they call it. Yeah.

Speaker 7 It's, it's, and we don't even feel it. We can't, we, we can't even,

Speaker 7 we can't see it. So you got to be so conscious

Speaker 7 of what you're giving your power away to, the easy way. You know, I'm not a big fan.

Speaker 7 I'm not a big fan of advanced technology.

Speaker 4 AI, really?

Speaker 4 I'm not afraid of it.

Speaker 7 Not afraid of it at all. And I use it

Speaker 7 like when I create graphics and things like that. And it's becoming almost impossible to not use.
Yeah. Have you noticed that?

Speaker 4 That's so good now. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Like

Speaker 7 you would be an idiot to not be using it.

Speaker 4 Um,

Speaker 7 but there's certain paths that I think humanity is going to go down with this advanced technology

Speaker 4 that

Speaker 7 brings us to

Speaker 7 what has been labeled kind of the mark of the beast,

Speaker 7 which is the, which has the power to to bring us down as a human collective. Oh, can I share this with you? Yeah.
Okay. So I channel.

Speaker 7 This is so fascinating.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 7 So once a month I channel in my online community. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I channel an energy that comes through.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 dude, this time, this was like last week. I channeled.
Okay.

Speaker 4 So Earth, Earth is a planet, right?

Speaker 7 Okay, but just like you have a body and right. And you, we call you Sean Kelly.
So we call the planet Earth, right?

Speaker 7 But she actually is a consciousness, just like you're a consciousness. So Sean Kelly is the label, the name you use, but you have a soul and that's an energy, right?

Speaker 7 And if I were to close my eyes and tap into your soul, it'd be very different than Sean Kelly.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 7 Same with the planet. So the planet is a physical body.
We call it Earth, but there's a consciousness in her. Wow.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Mother Earth, right? Mother Earth, right?

Speaker 7 So it feels very different than the planet.

Speaker 7 Meaning like, okay, there's a planet. We're standing on her, blah, blah, blah.
We talk about her, but she has a consciousness. Anyways,

Speaker 7 I i channeled i closed my eyes and i so when i channel i close my eyes and i invite in the energy the one energy that wants to come through

Speaker 7 and i when i close my eyes what i do what what happens is like there's something that pops in i can kind of see it almost like a dream

Speaker 7 and it takes me a while to figure out what it is you know it's like is this a male or a female Is this a human? Is this an angel? Like, what is this?

Speaker 7 And so when this energy came in, I was trying to pick it apart and it said mother, mother.

Speaker 4 And I was like, mother?

Speaker 7 What's mother? And then it said, mother, goddess. And I was like, mother, I don't do goddess stuff.
I don't do that.

Speaker 4 It's not my thing.

Speaker 7 I'm like, I don't want to do goddess things. Like, mother, goddess.
And then I was like, oh my God.

Speaker 7 And so then Lori was trying to make, like, I was trying to figure out, okay, no, it's got to be this. Maybe it's Prince, you know, maybe it's Prince that's coming in.

Speaker 7 You know, I was trying to like bring in who I wanted to channel because I love channeling Prince.

Speaker 7 And it was like, nope, it was just this mother energy.

Speaker 4 And I was like, what is this? Trying to figure it out, like depict, it's like pulling it apart.

Speaker 7 And then all of a sudden it was like earth.

Speaker 4 And I'm like,

Speaker 4 earth.

Speaker 7 What the freak is? Like, how do I, how do I channel earth? And all I heard was

Speaker 7 when I come through,

Speaker 7 it's all, it'll, I'll be like a mother energy. That's what I was feeling.
Okay, so fast forward to the channeling.

Speaker 7 I bring her in, and she says, Humanity's going down two paths right now.

Speaker 7 They're going, they're going,

Speaker 7 it's a split. So, humanity's in a split.
Either split is fine, whichever path humanity takes is fine because it's all going to come to a higher, higher resolution, a higher place, anyways, right?

Speaker 7 So, there's, so the first road is a real fast,

Speaker 7 technology-based path.

Speaker 7 The easy, the easy, it's going to be easier.

Speaker 7 It's going to

Speaker 7 it's going to accelerate humanity's trajectory,

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 7 it

Speaker 7 is going to pull humans from their most natural state.

Speaker 7 So it'll pull humans away from their soul. It'll pull humans away from their embodiment, from their physicality, from God.

Speaker 7 But it's like going to be a fast track.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 7 The less organic, she called it inorganic. I think that's what she called it.
Inorganic? Non-organic. I can't remember.

Speaker 4 The other track is slower.

Speaker 7 So this one goes like this, and this one goes like this, right? But it's organic, slower,

Speaker 7 less, less technology, more kind of community-based,

Speaker 7 just

Speaker 7 the path that we're not going to want to go down, right? We're going to want to take the fast path.

Speaker 7 But it's the slow, it's slowing down, getting still,

Speaker 7 staying aligned and connected with whatever you think God is to you,

Speaker 7 you know, source, universe, whatever you call that, a very different path than where a lot of humanity is going. And she called it the organic path and that this is the split that's happening.

Speaker 7 And she said to be careful with it, like to really be conscious of this split. And she goes, no matter what direction

Speaker 7 humanity finds themselves in, there is this evolution that's happening where the entire human collective will find themselves. Oh, she called it the golden era.
This path is going to the golden era.

Speaker 4 I've heard about that era. The golden era.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Yeah.
I'd never heard of it.

Speaker 4 I was like, oh, wow, the golden era.

Speaker 7 That's kind of like heaven on earth, right? Like humanity will eventually find themselves on a place

Speaker 7 in an awareness where there will be this beautiful heaven on earth kind of.

Speaker 4 That's like the Atlantis days, right? Exactly.

Speaker 7 So if you think about Atlantis, right? It's a combination of heart and technology,

Speaker 4 right?

Speaker 7 Advanced humans.

Speaker 7 I don't know much about Atlantis, but when I channeled the book, a little bit of Atlantis did come through. I mean, that is what the fall happened.
The fall of humanity happened because of technology.

Speaker 7 Really?

Speaker 4 Yeah. That's why Atlantis fell.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 The greed and power. Interesting.
But it was technology.

Speaker 7 So they got, so if you have an egoic structure like we have, which is how we capitalism.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 You, and control and greed.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 You know, the ego likes to be in control. It likes to have a lot.
It likes to take, take, take. It likes to feel safe.

Speaker 7 So if you have that combined with this real advanced technology, there is an opportunity for destruction.

Speaker 7 There's also an opportunity for

Speaker 7 greed to take over

Speaker 7 and power and control to take over on a level that

Speaker 7 humanity's not used to, which is what happened

Speaker 7 back in the day.

Speaker 7 Because really what this whole planet is about is control, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 People fighting for territory and money and power. Power.

Speaker 7 And so if you have these device, if you can start to figure out ways that make it easy for humanity to agree to go down a path.

Speaker 7 And then as humanity starts going down this path of technology, advanced technology, on one level, it's these beautiful humans that think they're doing good for the world, perhaps.

Speaker 7 And then a small percentage that know it's that they're going to be able to just take over, right? And really control.

Speaker 7 And so there's this fight that we're going to have to come to terms with, inner fight, an inner battle

Speaker 7 of,

Speaker 7 and I don't really know how it's going to play out, but there will be this inner battle of,

Speaker 7 do I take the easy way,

Speaker 7 which is what we're, a lot of us are going to do,

Speaker 7 or do I try to figure out how to,

Speaker 7 you know you think about going to the airports right and you know how they have those face scans all of a sudden they never told us about it i know that was weird i'm like why are you scanning my eyeballs all of a sudden um but it's easy and we all do it and it's just like okay we're just going to do this that's just one small example of like how

Speaker 7 easy it is to find ourselves um on a place in the planet where there's a chip in our brain.

Speaker 7 It's like, how did there all of a sudden become a chip in our brain? And we're completely controlled. You know, it's these tiny little steps that we take.

Speaker 7 And it's not that we want to live in fear, right? Or

Speaker 7 I mean, I don't want to live in fear and I don't want to live like, oh my God, we're screwed.

Speaker 7 But I do want to have an awareness of like, where are we going? What choice am I making?

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 7 how is this going to impact the the the way in which humanity is going?

Speaker 7 Again, I don't have an answer for it,

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 7 I find that the more I can, um, the more compassion and kindness I can hold for humanity and have human interactions more and more, just like real human interaction, like human to human,

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 7 holding compassion and kindness for people,

Speaker 7 I think that's going to

Speaker 7 counter the

Speaker 7 advanced kind of speed and path that we're going down right now with technology and how it's going to,

Speaker 7 you know, potentially, you think about this, right?

Speaker 7 The all the all the technology that's happening and all the

Speaker 7 kind of like really cool stuff that we're going to start seeing it to me it feels very non-human yeah yeah there's robots making alcohol drinks yeah that doesn't feel good to me yeah like a robotic bartender right like it just doesn't like

Speaker 7 okay you go on to like a chat place to get help on for your insurance car insurance and you know that all those chat things are not humans anymore right so like there's an inorganicness that's starting to just happen and so the way that I counterbalance that is I try to be even more

Speaker 7 human.

Speaker 7 Like when I'm out and about standing in my line to get my coffee, I really try to be human.

Speaker 7 Like have an interaction, have a conversation, say hello.

Speaker 7 smile like these things as crazy and as mundane as this sounds

Speaker 7 we're being pulled from that more and more.

Speaker 4 We are. Yeah, the dating apps are online now.

Speaker 4 You don't meet in person anymore. No.

Speaker 7 And then when you do meet them in person, it's kind of awkward and weird. I mean, I'm more awkward now in like human interactions, which is why I'm trying to counter that by being more,

Speaker 7 I'm trying to be more human, have more interaction because I'm noticing how

Speaker 7 it's becoming like

Speaker 7 there can be like a, for me it's

Speaker 7 engaging in human interaction is more

Speaker 4 awkward for me now same because i was at a conference yesterday and i was like getting in my own head about approaching people and i'm like no i need to just do this i'm tired of just dming and emailing people i need to go up to these guys and it's like you don't even realize it's creeping in

Speaker 7 okay think about this when you're okay this is how this is how i am now maybe it's just just me. But when my phone rings, I'm like, why didn't you message me and let me know you're calling?

Speaker 7 Like, why are you just calling? Don't just call me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I get annoyed.

Speaker 7 Yeah, like message me first. Let me know that you're going to call me

Speaker 4 and then call me. Prepare yourself mentally.

Speaker 7 I'm like, like my mom will just randomly call and I legit go to the place of like, why are you, why didn't you let me know you're calling me?

Speaker 4 I'm like,

Speaker 7 wait, this is so weird. Like when someone just randomly calls, somehow it's not not okay anymore.

Speaker 7 Or I literally prefer to voice message than have conversation now. Again, this could just be me.

Speaker 4 Yeah. But,

Speaker 7 and I have to start questioning this.

Speaker 4 Like, wait,

Speaker 7 like, what is this? I need to.

Speaker 7 And then I'm okay because I'm like, I get annoyed having the conversation. And then I get to, why am I so irritated by everything?

Speaker 4 Why is everything irritating me more and more?

Speaker 7 Right. So it's just all these like little tiny things that I'm starting to become more and more aware of.
Um, that to me, I ask, okay, is this pulling me away from the organic human experience?

Speaker 7 And is it okay? Like, it's easy. I love DMing.
I love the, I love not having to get on a call. Yeah.
It makes me awkward when I have phone conversations.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Like I'm awkward now.

Speaker 7 So that's okay. That's fine.

Speaker 4 But I'm aware of it.

Speaker 7 And I'm trying to

Speaker 7 be as human. And this is very, a very strange conversation to be saying.
I'm trying to be more and more human, but I feel like it's really important for us to

Speaker 7 bring into our awareness because

Speaker 7 it's not okay

Speaker 7 on one level, like this trajectory of inorganic, robotic stuff.

Speaker 4 At this rate, yeah, there's AI girlfriends coming out. Have you seen that? No, but humanoid girlfriends.
no, yeah, it's scary. The future is gonna be dude.

Speaker 7 Chat GPT is scary, yeah, it is.

Speaker 4 I say please and thank you to it because I don't know if it's gonna develop consciousness in 10 years.

Speaker 7 What does that even mean, develop consciousness?

Speaker 4 Like, have you seen Terminator? Yeah, that's that to me is that developing consciousness.

Speaker 7 Doesn't that scare you?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it does, but like you said, I try not to live in fear. Yeah, yeah, I don't want to live like that.

Speaker 7 Okay, so here's what here, right?

Speaker 7 There's a part of me that's like, Lori,

Speaker 7 do not, like, I have to stay present.

Speaker 7 I have to stay super, super present because

Speaker 7 the only thing that's real is the present, is presence.

Speaker 7 The only thing that's real is the right here, right now. Right.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 everything else will bring me the fear, the stress, the anxiety, and

Speaker 7 fighting that.

Speaker 7 I don't know, man. I I don't know about you, but I have to pay attention because

Speaker 7 if I start to think about where humanity may be going,

Speaker 7 I can't do it. So I'm like, okay, just the right here, right now, being present,

Speaker 7 being with what is.

Speaker 7 But as I watch this

Speaker 4 stuff happening,

Speaker 7 I'm like, oh my God. Okay, how can I be of service in the best way possible

Speaker 7 while all this is going on, because my brother came in, came over the other day and he sat down and he's like, dude, you got to watch. You got to listen to this chat GPT thing.

Speaker 7 It's like a relationship. And I'm like, what is it? And he's like, watch.
So he sits and he does the chat GPT conversation, like, hey, I'm really struggling. I'm having a hard time today.

Speaker 7 Like, can you help me out? Hi, Mike. Absolutely.
Like, it's okay. Nothing to worry about.
Like, and it was like real.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it has the voice chat now, right?

Speaker 7 I've seen that. And they're just having this conversation.

Speaker 7 And my brother's like, like it's the greatest and i'm like oh my god that's the future right there holy cow like yeah it helps because it makes them feel not alone but then i'm like

Speaker 7 no soul there's no one there

Speaker 7 scary you know like there's you're not talking to anyone yeah so i don't know man i just i'm like

Speaker 7 the whole world is like

Speaker 7 There's so much going on. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, we'll see how it all plays out. We'll see how it all plays out.
Laurie, it's been awesome. We'll have to to do a part two in Kenya one of these days.
Anything else you want to focus on?

Speaker 4 Oh my god, no.

Speaker 7 But if you go, if you, I'll give you some tips when you go to please. When you go out there, and yeah, if it catches you, if you get the bug,

Speaker 7 it'd be incredible to do a podcast out in Kenya with the elephants and the giraffes and all of that.

Speaker 4 Well, we'll link your socials below. Thanks for coming on.

Speaker 7 Yeah, thank you. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Check her out, guys. See you next time.

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