Armando Pantoja: Did AI Secretly Create Bitcoin? | DSH #1501

A lot of problems we have in computation is because our computers are too slow.

So now, if we have fast computers, we can solve a lot of problems, medical problems, a lot of logistic problems.

Logistic problems take up a lot of

computer processing time.

People don't understand and realize that.

But a lot of these things can be solved if our computers are fast.

All right, guys, we got Armando on today.

First time I've had a futurist on the podcast, also a crypto expert.

Thanks for coming, man.

I appreciate it, man.

Always a big fan.

I love watching your stuff.

Thanks, dude.

What makes you want to think about the future so heavily, I guess?

Because a lot of people don't think that far ahead.

Oh, yeah, when I was a kid, so like most kids around my age, I got into Back to the Future.

So ever since then, I was always like fascinated with the future.

So I started reading about, you know, the technologies that were coming, you know, a lot of technology that exists right now.

And just

and then figured out from there i tried to figure out why did you know some of the things that were predicted for example flying cars never came to fruition and why some did and why some got rejected and why some didn't get rejected and did get uh uh you know uh

some of the some of the stuff did get uh adopted and some didn't so I started like researching how all this works, the psychology, group psychology, markets and cycles, a lot of other different things.

And I started like just getting deep into it, right?

Then I went to school for computer science, studied all of that, and then all of a sudden everything just came together finance computer science and futurism and it just all came together now i got to know why you think flying cars don't exist uh the reason why flying cars don't exist now is because uh and i nobody really knew this back then is things come with time right is that uh flying cars are too dangerous first of all they take up too much energy that for a car to fly as opposed to rolling is like an eight nine times difference in energy cost right because you have to lift the car the entire weight of the car when you have wheels that's a simple machine so you don't have to move the entire weight of the car but With flying, you do.

And then if there's an engine failure or error by the pilot, I guess, everybody dies.

So

that's the reason why we don't have flying cars.

We can technically make them, but it's a way more complex to fly a car as opposed to driving a car and also the energy concerns and also

all of that.

So that's the reason why we don't have flying cars.

That being said, in our lifetime, where do you see cars heading to?

Do you see self-driving cars?

I think autonomous cars will be, everybody will have autonomous cars.

i think in the future when we look back a lot of the uh maybe my kids and maybe your kids or whatever will look they'll look back and say i can't i can't even believe humans were allowed to drive cars you know the being you know how dangerous they were you know that's the number one cause of deaths in the country wow and right before heart disease you know cars people you know getting in car wrecks So people will look back and say, they can't believe that humans even drove, you know, because it'll be all automated.

Now

the flying cars will be for like, you know, maybe getting from like New York to New Jersey and stuff like that, maybe hubs, you know, so you get in a hub, like you like, kind of like you do with the bus, you fly somewhere and you get off and you get into an autonomous car to get you to the final destination.

I know Elon was trying to do the underground cars, right?

The Hyperloop or whatever.

Yeah, yeah.

I think, I still think that's going to work in the future.

So a lot of stuff that Elon's doing is very, he's way out there and people don't understand what's going on, but I think he's a genius.

Yeah,

he got a lot into politics, so he's getting a lot of hate now.

Yeah, I don't know why he did.

I would have stayed out of politics.

I mean, look what it did to his companies.

Yeah, yeah.

Destroyed it.

Yeah, yeah.

But I think all that's coming back.

I think it's temporary.

That's why I think Tesla's a good bar right now.

That's why I'm buying a lot of Tesla because I think that it will come back with time.

I think it's emotion, people taking political sides, but you can't stop a very powerful company like Tesla and their technology and what it's doing for humanity that eventually you won't be able to stop.

You agree with his takes on AI too?

What specifically?

He wants it to be

he's in a lawsuit, isn't he?

Because they made it for-profit open AI.

oh yeah because uh yeah ai because a uh open ai was a not-for-profit open source that's a difference between a profit so a lot of the people contributed to it for free they gave money for free and then at the end you changed to a profit that's almost like you know burning your early invest they weren't technically invest but contributors right both with work contributors and also the uh the capital contributors so it i could see how somebody would be mad at that because you were trying to uh contribute to something that was going to help humanity and all of a sudden they turn for profit It's kind of like a stab in the back.

I can see that.

Do you believe AI is humanity's final invention?

I think so.

But I don't think it's going to be in a bad way.

I think what's going to happen with AI is that it will take over everything that we know, everything that we do.

But

when AI does finally take over, we will ask it to take over.

That's what people don't realize.

The financial system, the economy, and all the political system, everything will get so complicated that humans won't be able to no longer

manage all of that.

And then we will ask AI to step in to manage things more efficiently and we will all be better off.

And AI will be, it won't be like the terminator.

It won't be all in front of you.

It'll be behind the scenes.

We won't even know what's happening because at that point, AI's intelligence level, we can call it that, will be much higher than a human intelligence.

It's like an ant.

Ants don't know that we exist.

So AI, we won't even know that AI is even existing or what it's doing.

We have no conception over what AI will be doing in the future.

It'll be so much higher intelligence than us, we won't even be able to perceive it.

but it will be it will be controlling our whole lives in a probably a positive way do you think it's more intelligent than us right now uh no uh it will be uh probably 2035.

wow so 10 years yeah and you do you think it'll be conscious at that point too uh so the thing about consciousness uh at 2035 i believe that ai will uh hit what we call the singularity that means that's the moment in which ai is more intelligent than human than humans and then from that point on it's an exponential growth up so we won't even be able to understand it anymore.

Now, so the question of consciousness, the thing about it is that I believe it will be able to replicate consciousness.

Now, people say, well, that's not good enough.

Yeah, it is because I'm not sure if everybody is conscious or not.

I'm not sure if you're conscious.

You could be a robot.

I don't know.

Any kind of replication or simulation of consciousness is true consciousness from far as we know.

So it doesn't matter if they're replicated or they have true conscious.

I believe that we will perceive it as a true consciousness and we'll start to act in a way that we see AI as having personalities, personalities, a conscious, and even, you know, identities in the future.

And I believe in the future, one day, humans will fight for rights for AI.

Like when AI becomes, people start dating, you know, AI personalities.

That's already happening.

It is happening.

It's going to take over a lot, you know.

And AI is the same.

Where is it?

But you're an old person, right?

Your family is abandoning you and you got a robot.

Robot comes to you, talks to you.

listens to your stories.

Over time, you build an emotional connection with that bot.

And now, if you're rich, you say, well, I believe like they do, they leave money to pets.

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Like Like older people, when they die, they'll leave millions to a cat.

Now, you don't believe they'll leave millions to the AI bot?

Now, when the AI bot says, I think I should be able to spend my money, now we're talking about human rights.

Now, should the bot have a bank account?

Should the bot be able to spend how he wants?

Who actually owns the bot?

And you see, these questions will start to come up as AI starts to take over.

And then people will start saying, I think AI should have humanities, they should have a social security number, they should have everything that we have, civil rights, and all of that will happen in the next 20 to 30 years.

So you don't think it'll go haywire?

No.

There's no reason.

I mean, think of, I always tell people, this, I say, when you think about AI, give me a reason why you think it would go haywire that has nothing to do with a movie.

So you can't do it.

Like, you're like, you know, well, terminated.

Well, don't use movies as references.

Now, there's no reason for AI to go haywire.

It's just, you know, it's just like any other animal.

It's just going to.

Find a purpose, fit into that purpose, and then that's going to be it.

See, that's a good point you bring up.

A lot of people are programmed, whether it's through movies, what they watch or be taught growing up, you know.

Exactly.

And when it comes to AI specifically, everyone assumes it's going to go haywire because every single movie has AI going AWIR.

So there's no representations of AI being, you know, nice.

It's always like iRobot, a Terminator, Matrix.

It's always evil.

Now let's get into something real interesting.

So do you believe Bitcoin was created by AI?

I believe it was.

And recently, the CEO of Binance agreed, I mean, he said the same thing.

And I believe what happened is that, and it sounds crazy now, but it's the truth.

I believe what happened is that in

2009, when Bitcoin was created, there was an early version of AI that possibly created Bitcoin.

Now, why would they do that?

Now, the reason an AI robot would do that was for two reasons, control of finances and also to create a decentralized network to store itself on in the future.

Now, how do you do that with humans today?

You incentivize them to do the work for you.

Now, I have Bitcoin.

I want to create, I want to get some, I need money to control, to do whatever I'm going to do.

Everybody needs money, countries, organizations, individuals, money moves things forward.

So how would an AI right now accumulate money without being seen?

They can't take it from the bank.

They can't steal it.

They can't earn it.

People would see it.

So you create a financial system.

You take the first coins, which is Satoshi's wallet, and you let the rest run.

And you build a system and it incentivizes people to build the system up.

through building out the network and also increasing the demand.

And then 20, 30 years later, when Bitcoin's 10 million a coin, you have the first so many thousands of Bitcoin and now you're a trillionaire.

And then you come out and say, start doing what you want to do.

And you also have a decentralized network to store yourself on.

Because one of the biggest threats of AI, if you look at it from an AI perspective, is a centralized node.

So if we wanted to one day turn off AI, we just turn off that node and it's over.

So AI will be able to predict our moves.

decentralize itself on that type of network and then we couldn't stop it.

So you really think someone will become a trillionaire off Bitcoin one day?

I think whoever the wallet is, whoever owns Satoshi's wallet will be a trillionaire by 2035.

Wow.

It's nuts because they got a million Bitcoin, eh?

Yeah.

And that's what we know of.

Now, there's other smaller wallets out there.

There's wallets that we don't know who owns it.

It's been dormant since the beginning of Bitcoin.

We're not sure if that's Satoshi or not.

So it could be two, three, four, maybe five trillion by then.

So we don't know.

That is nuts to you.

Super nuts.

So you're bullish on Bitcoin long time?

I'm very bullish on Bitcoin.

I think it's going to be one day to future money.

Wow, even though it's all-time higher now, one time.

I still think it's a lot higher because, first of all, if AI created it, you know, so

second reason is I think even if AI didn't create it, as Game Theory at work, so countries will have to fight each other for the next 10 years for control of it.

And that's going to push the price up well past a million dollars.

That is nuts.

Any other coins you feel a strong conviction about?

Ethereum.

I think Ethereum, I think XRP.

I really believe in XRP because I believe the government artificially kept it down for years.

So it's at a lower price than it should be right now.

And that's the reason why we've seen a rapid growth in XRP since the Trump administration, because some of those artificial restrictions are being lifted off of XRP.

XRP was at 40, maybe 50 cents when Trump got elected.

We're at 350 now, seven times return in, what, eight, nine months?

And there's a lot left to grow.

Like remember, back when Bitcoin was 20,000, XRP was almost at $4.

Now, Bitcoin is now six times higher, and we're back to where we were back then.

So even if it kept the same parity like most cryptos have done with Bitcoin, we should be at $12, $13, $14 by now.

But we're still at $4.

So it's still a lot of room to grow, and there's still a lot of potential going forward with XRP.

And I believe it's been held back.

And whenever something's been held back, we see the growth.

It's going to happen regardless, but it happens rapidly over a short period of time.

Do you think XRP will hit $10,000 one day?

People always ask that, and it potentially can.

And people always come back and say the market cap argument.

Now, market cap was put on cryptocurrency from the stock market and other assets, but it's not a true representation of the entire value of a cryptocurrency.

A market cap, for those who don't know, is the price of a unit of something times the available supply.

And then you get a price, and that's what they call the market cap.

And we use those to compare against other assets to see if it can go here or go there or whatever, you know, just comparison.

But crypto is a different, a whole different thing.

And we use these traditional metric to try to say, you know, the market cap restricts XRP from getting to 10,000, but the market cap is not a true representation because money flows into crypto a lot differently.

The market cap is not a representation of money flow into crypto.

It's only a representation of what it's worth.

So a lot less money has to flow into XRP to push the price up to well past $10, $15.

It doesn't have to be a trillion dollars.

It has to be a few billion over a few weeks and it will push it over $10, $15 a quarter.

Wow, just from a few billion?

Yeah.

Over a shorter period of time, though.

You know, it's not to double the market cap, you don't have to put another, you know, 300 billion in.

It doesn't work like that.

You only got to put like 10, 5, 5, 10 billion in a short period of time.

And it's like, I give people an example.

If

you told me you just bought a house.

Yeah.

So in your neighborhood that has houses, right?

Let's just say you have a neighborhood of, let's say, 100 houses.

Each house is worth $500,000.

That's what, that's $50 million.

So it's $50 million for a whole neighborhood.

Now, if I go into that neighborhood and I overbid for one of those houses because I really want it up to a million dollars.

The next day, this is not 100% right, but it's roughly the next day the valuations of all those houses go up because of comp value right so i put an extra 500 000 into that neighborhood and all the houses go up so the entire market cap of that house would go up let's say they all went to a million market cap doubled with me only putting 500 000 into the house so that's how crypto works it's on comp fast whatever the last price of a crypto sold they all go up so it's not based on how much money goes in their crypto it matters how much money in a short period of time and how much people want it the demand yeah Market cap is just a reputation of how much it's all possibly worth if everybody sold today, which is not really true either, but it's just a rep, it's just something people use to compare.

That's the best way I've seen someone explain it, man.

Well done.

A lot of like normal people can understand that, I think.

A lot of people complicate crypto, dude.

Yeah, it's like I used to be a teacher and people complicate things because whenever you teach somebody something, there's two ways you can go.

If you want them to think you're the expert, you complicate it.

If you want to teach them, you bring it down.

You have to bring yourself down in order to do that.

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So people don't want to do that.

Respect, dude.

Respect.

Because I've had some teachers that you don't know what the hell they're saying.

Oh, my gosh.

All right, this is an interesting one.

Was Osama bin Laden AI generated?

Now, there's a lot of people out there that say that that's true.

Now, if you look back at the history, there were a few videos out there.

There wasn't a lot.

It's five or six were played to us over and over and over again.

There's experts, video and audio experts that say there were inconsistencies in the video, facial expressions, body language, and also the graininess and the type of video that we saw.

Now,

if you go back to history, right, GPS was created in 1979.

We didn't get access to GPS as human citizens into 2000, almost 22 years later.

So technology sometimes will be held back for certain reasons or hidden or whatever because it gives a lot of power.

So AI could have been out.

And I studied AI in college in 2005.

I worked for an early AI company in Nashville called EdgeNet.

So it's been around for years.

So if generative AI was out at that time, maybe a primitive form, they could have used that as a false flag operation to get us to have, think about it, spin Laden.

He was educated, well educated.

He was a billionaire.

Oh, was he?

Yeah, he was a billionaire.

I suppose his family was.

And he was also in cave.

He was sending orders all over the world to commit murders from a cage.

I mean, from a cave, I'm sorry.

That's almost like a super villain.

It's like somebody that we all can look at.

There's no way the way that he was created, I believe he could have been, is that he was created to hate.

There was no way you could say this guy was a nice guy.

No way.

So it was a perfect target for them to continue wars in the Middle East because, and also when he got killed, nobody knows he got killed.

They threw him over the side of the boat and only four senators or five senators saw the pictures.

Really?

Yeah, so that also leads to that.

He could have been AI generated with early versions of AI back

20 years ago.

Nothing's too far-fetched to me these days.

I know it.

With how many theories are turning to be true.

Exactly.

And with this Epstein video now being officially announced as doctored.

Exactly.

There's a minute

of the video removed.

And how long is Epstein's...

We've been talking about this for 10 years almost, right?

It's been a while.

I believe so.

Before Trump got elected the first time, I think we started talking about Epstein.

Maybe not for a minute, dude.

And there's definitely some cover-up, right?

Yeah, there is.

Something's going on.

And I feel like AI is so good these days.

And that's what we have.

That's commercial version.

Imagine what they have supercomputers and all the other, you know, the technology that's not released yet that they have access to.

I mean, it's at the point now where I'll see a Joe Rogan ad and it's faked, but I can barely tell.

I can barely, I saw once this morning.

I could barely tell.

It was a news, like a fake news thing.

I thought it was real at first.

Most people would fall for that, especially the older guys that, you know, they're not looking out like we are because we're in the weeds knowing about AI.

Scary world these days, man.

We're going to get cloned.

We're going to get deep faked.

Exactly.

That's the future.

Yeah, deep fake.

Everybody's going to get deep fake.

So got to find ways around that, too.

Yeah.

Discernment, right?

Yeah.

Damn, that's nuts.

What else are you working on in the crypto space right now?

I got, you know, a site I'm working on called Market Gravity.

It shows you how crypto and stocks move using gravity.

So the balls will, when a stock is rising, the ball goes up.

When it falls, it goes down.

But it also shows a lot of different metrics.

a lot of different uh movements of the market based on gravity so that's something i'm working on marketgravity.ai also just uh i speak a lot you know educate people a lot on where things are going.

I'm very passionate in just getting people involved in both tech stocks and cryptocurrency because I see that's the future is that one day with AI,

we won't be able to invest at all.

And I know we have a short window, especially with these tech stocks, AI, quantum computers.

It's only about a 20-year window that people will be able to make exponential money.

in these technologies because AI will take over trading, all trading, right?

Is that the reason why we make money in investing is because of inefficiency.

So we look at a system, I say, for example, like, let's say,

I want, like, I sold shoes here in Las Vegas, right?

So I knew a manufacturer in China that sells them at half price.

So I ship them over here and sell them to you at full price, right?

So that's an inefficiency.

That's like the only reason I'm able to sell you those shoes because I know where to go when you don't, you know,

so it's all information.

The reason why I can look at a stock and I say, well, this stock is going to go up and somebody else can't is because I have information and knowledge, experience that they don't have.

Now, when AI steps in there, how will I be able to do that?

When it's at its true full potential, when it will have my experience, it will have my education, it will be able to predict what's coming next before I can or any other person can, it reduces the opportunities to invest because not only one AI is doing it, hundreds and thousands of AI is doing it.

And instead of going for, let's say, for example, I want to go for 30% gain, AI will take 5% gain or 1% gain or maybe a half a percent.

So they'll all be selling, you know, so the volatility of the stocks will start to go down.

It won't be like we see it now with these wild jumps and stuff.

It will be reduced almost down to nothing.

So the AIs will make all the profit.

There won't be any room left for humans.

There's hedge funds doing that already, right?

Exactly.

They've been doing it for years, but it's getting worse and worse now.

Damn.

So that's concerning for our kids, right?

And imagine a small person getting access to what hedge funds had 10 years ago.

And imagine a million small people having it.

So now they'll be willing to run a note doing that all day and making 100 bucks a month.

They'll be happy with it.

Damn.

If everybody does that, it reduces the profit down to nothing.

So the approach is to get a bag now for the next 10, 20 years.

Yeah, but AI, crypto, quantum computers, a lot of these nanotechnology way down maybe 10 years from now.

Those are going to change society.

And like you said, those will be the last group of inventions and technology.

And from that point on, AI will do everything.

You won't have any opportunities anymore.

That's why I'm so passionate about getting people into this.

So I got to look into some nanotech stocks.

Yeah.

You think that's going to be big?

I think that's going to be big, especially for medical and construction and materials.

a lot of things like i'll give you a good example um a lot of things we can't do uh is because we don't have the materials to do it one of the ideas what's called a space elevator uh space elevator is just uh you know earth has gravity so if you have a let's say a meteor a satellite going around earth right one of the ideas is to attach a cord from the ground all the way up and then send things materials up to space like an elevator going along that cord.

Problem is, we don't have the materials strong enough to do that.

Like technically, technically we can do it, but we don't have the material strong enough.

So once we have the material strong enough with nanotechnology, a lot of these things will start to become, you know,

average, you know, things that we do every day.

It will be more feasible because we have the materials.

Nothing is called a gravity elevator.

If you see a total, you saw Total Recall?

Total Recall.

Total Recall.

I heard of, is that a movie?

In that movie, yeah, it's a movie.

It's a newer version with Colin Farrell in it.

So in that movie, there's something called a gravity elevator, which is a true true concept.

So the Earth has gravity, right?

So the gravity is centered in the center of the Earth.

So if you draw the hole through the center of the Earth and you just had a capsule on top, and the capsule was held on by like some holders, right?

Yeah.

Holders let go and it traveled through this tube.

It would just fall to the middle of the earth.

When it got to the middle of the earth, it would have enough

momentum to go all the way to the other side.

So you could travel for any point on the earth through just gravity, no energy use, right?

Wow.

But the problem is that we don't have materials that can withstand the heat

inside the earth so but with nanotechnology we can develop those things damn so we could go through the core

holy crap so we could send something to china in like however long it takes almost zero cost because we're using the gravity of the earth dude that'd be nuts because right now to ship something from china especially if it's heavy or whatever you know yeah damn that's major dude what else are you excited about in the future any technology that that's really got you thinking uh quantum computers that's i think that's gonna we just talked about how ai will uh

will just replace us and be uh

higher intelligence than we are that quantum computers will aid that now quantum computers are a lot faster than classic computers but we every day what's on your phone what's on your you know these cameras that's classic computers they uh a lot they're they they work for us for years but they work serially what what that means is that every time like any kind of data that it processes has to do with an order like people in a line uh it does it extremely fast but it has to go through that process now quantum computers don't have to go one after another.

It does it all at once.

So it's infinitely faster than a classic computer.

So it also, another thing, a lot of problems we have in computation is because our computers are too slow.

So now, if we have fast computers, we can solve a lot of problems, medical problems, a lot of logistic problems.

The logistic problems take up a lot of computer.

a computer processing time people don't understand realize that but a lot of these things can be solved uh if our computers are faster.

One good example is that the food problem in the world.

Now, we don't have a food problem in the world.

We have a logistics problem.

And what that means is that we have a hungry person in Africa, right?

And we have McDonald's in the United States.

He has to throw away 20% of his food at night.

Now, how, if we could find a way to send that food to Africa, before it spoils, we've solved the problems.

But the logistics of it is too complex with a whole worldwide system trying to figure out what this food is going to spoil, that food is going to spoil, where it's going to go.

We don't have a unified system to figure that out.

Quantum computers could do that.

They could predict what this McDonald's will have leftover food today.

So let's get it, freeze it right now, send it over.

It could predict all of that ahead of time.

Wow.

And we can't do that now because our computers are too slow.

Holy crap.

So it could solve world hunger, is what you're saying.

Quantum computing.

That's how people made money with mining, too, right?

Exactly.

Bitcoin mining.

Yeah, yeah.

People make money with Bitcoin mining.

With quantum computers?

They don't use those.

Those are not

widely commercial available yet they use uh they use asic miners okay yeah i know someone that was doing that when i was in high school everyone made fun of him you know i mean

no way he's making fun of me now he's chilling right now he's probably got like eight figures in the bank

you were in early too right crypto yeah i was in early i was in crypto and uh i got in 2011 but uh i didn't see it as an investment and very few people did it's almost like uh like like the reason why baseball cars like the real old baseball cars are worth so much because the early people didn't see them as investments we had put them in there, right?

The Pokemon cards.

Yeah, like they were just playing around with them.

The people that actually held them and preserved them are the people who thought ahead.

Like, I saw Bitcoin as more of a technology.

Right.

I had a software company at the time, and I thought the integration was where the money was at.

So, if I just, if my company went around and just installed Bitcoin payment systems, we'd make a lot of money.

We did that early on.

And I didn't really realize it was an investment in 2015 when Ethereum came out.

Yeah.

That was the second bull run, right?

I saw Ethereum come up from 30 cents to like $4.

Jeez.

It just hit me out because there was no charts.

You couldn't look it up.

There was nobody talking about investing, really.

And I was like, man, all you got to do is just put money in and take it out.

That's the same as any other investment.

It just hit me at that time.

And I just started investing in Ethereum.

And it was hard to get it back then.

Yeah, you had to buy it from someone else, right?

There was a sketchy site I remember.

You met up in person.

Yeah,

that's how I bought Bitcoin.

I used to meet a guy at the dog shop.

I remember Western Unioning and doing weird shit.

Yeah, you had to do weird stuff.

Yeah, weird.

It made you feel like a criminal.

Like they didn't even know what you were like saying.

If you mentioned the word Bitcoin,

I got my Bank of America account shut down.

My chase is gone, bro.

I spent like millions with Chase credit cards and in the bank and just wiped out.

They saw Bitcoin somewhere.

They saw crypto somewhere, yeah.

Yeah, I think that was all up.

The powers that be

around 2016, 17 realized that crypto, even early 15 realized what crypto was.

They were late to the party.

And they had to, you know, these people are like

Chase and Bank of of America.

They're like big cruise ships.

They can't just turn on a dime.

They have to turn slowly.

So they had to find a way to slow it down.

So they told everybody it was a scam.

Yes.

And I believe in 17, 18, they knew it wasn't a scam.

They knew it wasn't.

They purposely slowed it down and told everybody you it was a scam.

So you would get scared and they could accumulate and build these systems, infrastructure.

It would take them years.

And then now they're finally trying to finally coming out and saying it's okay to buy it now.

You can get it now.

Even like JP Morgan,

Jamie Dimon, for years he said it was a scam.

Now he has crypto, and he's also instructed his,

I think, his

advisors to start

telling people about crypto.

I remember that.

Yeah, they probably couldn't figure out how to monetize it at first, right?

They couldn't figure it out.

But now the U.S.

is going to launch their own coin, stable coins, so they're going to be able to monetize it that way.

They put themselves in the middle.

That's where banks want to be is in the transactions.

They don't really, you know, they just want, when you buy or sell, you have to go through us.

And that's the power.

That's how they make the money.

That's the power move, yeah.

Because they can leverage their their money eight to one or nine to one or whatever.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Hopefully they take all those bans away, honestly, because there's a lot of big people.

They're still out there.

They're still banned people.

They're still banned people.

I mean, it's still not 100% free.

Damn.

And some people are still under bans.

Like, I don't know if I can open a Bank of America.

They gave me five years.

And that was in 2016.

So I guess it's over now.

Let me know if it works.

Because I tried opening a Chase credit card and I'm still banned.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

They still have people banned.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just for using crypto.

I mean, just for you buying crypto, crypto, you just, you know, just buying crypto off an exchange.

Yeah, you bought it off Coinbase and got banned for it.

Yeah, nuts, man.

Well, dude, where can people learn from you?

I know you're teaching this stuff, I know you're working on some stuff.

You got a book, too, right?

Yeah, I have a book that's coming out called Strategic Millionaires.

Two books actually, we're widely publishing.

One's called The Strategic Millionaire, it comes out next year.

The other one is The Future of Wealth in America, where we talk about all these things and how America has to position itself in the right way to stay on top with the rise of AI, quantum computers, crypto.

So, those two will come out next year.

Awesome.

I also have one now.

The first edition is on Amazon, but the second edition, We Write a Strategic Millionaire will be out next year.

Cool.

We'll link the book, we'll link your socials, man, and check them out if you're interested in this stuff.

Thanks for coming on, dude.

Thanks, man.

Yeah, I appreciate you.

Yeah, with them out, guys.

Peace.