Carly: The Secret to Business Growth Nobody Talks About | DSH #1441

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I think so.

I think I was just talking to that guy out there about how all the industries are transforming with AI and, you know, all the jobs are going away for every industry.

I also do business development for a Molly and we see now that human models are ceasing to exist at this point.

No way.

They're using AI.

They're using AI for everything.

Wow.

It's wild.

Okay, guys, got Carly here, business development specialist in Las Vegas.

So nice to to be here.

Thanks for having me.

Yeah, your second podcast, right?

It's my second podcast.

My first was with Naftali Moses.

I actually do operations and business development for him.

So I'm really excited for the appearance and another opportunity to speak about business and motherhood.

Yeah, your first one started off with a bang.

A lot of you.

Started off with a bang.

A lot of people were mad in the comments.

However, I think it's really important to bring to light how difficult it can be balancing motherhood and being an ambitious woman.

It's not really spoken about and it's kind of a taboo topic.

I think in society, you're kind of taught to choose one or the other nowadays.

However, there are a group of women that want to do both and you can do both very successfully and it can be very fulfilling in all realms.

Where was the hate coming from?

Was it from guys mainly?

Just from guys mostly, you know, she's in her masculine energy.

She should transition.

And I'm like, well, it's okay to be an ambitious woman and still provide for your children.

So yeah.

Do you feel like there's an energy imbalance with you personally, like with the masculine and the feminine energies?

I don't think so so at all.

No, I think if you're present with your children and you're present in your business, you know, they flow into each other.

It's finding fulfillment in both areas allows you to be fulfilled in all.

So I think I feel very balanced, both masculine and femininity-wise.

It's crazy to me that you get hate for that.

Isn't it wild?

I don't mind my woman working personally.

I would think that you would want to build together, especially in today's economy, it's really difficult to have a one-income household.

Oh, yeah.

Everything is so expensive.

And so, you know, if you're in a position where your husband can provide for you, that's wonderful.

However, a lot of people just don't have the opportunity.

And so having a woman that's able to contribute as well can be mutually beneficial for not only the partner, but for the household and the kids.

Yeah.

I personally think it's healthy if your woman is working on her passions.

Yeah.

They need to have your own hobbies.

You know, motherhood can drain you.

Children, you know, they take a lot of emotional regulation skills and it can really make you feel a little bit depleted at the end of the day.

So having something that you can pour into yourself is really important to continue pouring into your children.

How many children you got?

I have two.

I have a two-year-old son and a four-year-old daughter.

They're so fun.

Oh, two and four.

Do you have any kids?

Not yet.

Are you planning on it?

I'm trying to plan it.

I'm digging 30.

The most important thing is finding the right partner.

I'm sure everyone.

I got the right partner.

I'm just trying to plan out the timeline.

You know, because I'm grinding hard right now.

Yeah.

So my fear is like, because I work 60 hours a week.

Yeah.

Could I realistically have a kid right now and still do that?

Yeah.

I don't know.

I think a lot of it falls on the mom, too.

Yeah.

You know, as a man, I think you have a little bit more flexibility to focus on your career and your passions, whereas the mother is tied down both physically, emotionally, and mentally those first four years of life.

That's true.

So you work working from home or I work remotely.

Yeah.

So we do, I'm actually separated from my kids' father.

We do 50-50 split parenting.

So I have them for a week on.

And then the second week that I don't have them, I'm traveling.

So either LA, Vegas, Dallas, something like that.

I love it.

How'd you decide on the 50 50 i grew up in a divorced household it was probably like 90 10.

okay um 50 50 just worked out for our relationship we have an amazing relationship uh friendship wise but parenting and uh romantically it just did not work out yeah so 50 50 just worked out for both of our schedules yeah i always think if if mine was 50 50 like it would i'd be way different do you feel like you missed out on a relationship with your father then i didn't know how to do a lot of manly things growing up like i couldn't tie a tie Like, I didn't know.

Just a basic functionality.

How to be a guy, honestly.

Yeah.

I mean, I love my mom.

I'm a mama's boy, but I just felt like you need that father for you.

100%.

And a lot of people, you know, when I separated from their dad, they're like, it's so sad you're going to miss out on time with your kids.

However, they have a better relationship now with their father since I was a stay-at-home mom.

He was working full-time.

And I'm really grateful that they have a better relationship with their father because that mother, you know, child and father-child dynamic is so equally important in both realms.

So I feel as though my kids have flourished since the separation.

I love that.

Were you working at nine to five when you had the kids?

I was a stay-at-home mom.

Oh, God.

Yeah.

So I decided to stay at home.

And that's how I really,

you know, I'm speaking from experience feeling that depletion and drained.

emotion after just staying at home with the kids and not having a hobby.

So I really want to empower women to know that they can balance both motherhood and business and working for themselves and still feel fulfilled.

What do you think is a realistic job out there?

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So, I always recommend working for yourself.

I'm a contractor.

So, I work for multiple businesses across multiple industries.

You know, developing a skill set that solves problems for businesses is extremely important.

And that could be anything.

You could specialize in communications.

It could be, you know, accounting and finances.

For me, the number one problem that I solve is the connection aspect.

So business development is essentially adult matchmaking.

So really making sure that you're aligning people in the right positions based on their personalities and who they are at the core of their person.

And I think that's something that a lot of business owners don't really take into consideration.

They're so focused on building systems and looking at the logistics of a business.

But at the core of a solid operating business, it's personality types and, you know, where someone belongs and operates the best in that structure.

It's like a puzzle, right?

It's a puzzle.

Absolutely.

So I always recommend personality tests for anyone that's hiring or building a business.

And that's kind of where my skill set exists at.

What about dating?

Do you make your boyfriend take a personality test?

No, I haven't.

No, I have not.

No.

We did.

We ended up doing one just out of curiosity.

You and your partner?

Yeah.

What did you come up with?

So I took the 16 personalities one, and I got, I think, architect.

Okay.

INTP or something like that.

Okay.

And then we took the dark Triad one.

Have you heard of that one?

I have.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was an interesting one.

Did it say that you guys were like compatible?

Yeah, kind of.

There's so many tests.

It's so difficult.

And, you know, there's, you can only look so much into it, you know, because obviously you have to get to know the person, talk to them yourself, build a relationship.

But I do think that there is some truth behind all of it.

I think so, yeah.

If you take multiple ones, you could kind of see the similarities.

The similarities, yeah, for sure.

I'd recommend that rather than putting all your

if you just take an astrology one, says you don't match, and then you're going to believe that.

Yeah, you'll never find love.

You'll never find love.

And a lot of women are in astrology.

Spirituality is a thing for sure.

Did you ever go down that route?

Are you more logical?

I'm definitely more logical.

Yeah.

That's rare in a woman, I feel like.

Yeah, you see a lot of spirituality in these coaches too nowadays.

And it's difficult because how can you lead transformation if you haven't transformed yourself?

And a lot of these coaches, I don't think they've done the inner work.

You know, you need to focus more on connection more than conversion.

And I think that these coaches are really missing the main point of why they have a coaching business.

You know, being able to connect with yourself and being able to connect with people is so much more important than conversions.

If you see a coaching business that's leading with marketing instead of their mission, that's a red flag for me.

The mission should be the number one most important thing that you're marketing, quote unquote, to people.

Yeah, I wonder how the coaching industry can be improved when it comes to vetting and qualifications.

It's really difficult nowadays, especially with like AI and social media, you can put anything out there in the internet and you don't know what's true and what's false.

And so I think that

I don't really know, honestly, what I was going to say.

I don't know where the market's going when it comes to the pressure.

No, it's coaching.

It's tough because you can make any claim.

You can put anything out there in the internet, in any image or text, and nobody's going to verify you or call you out for it.

And then it makes your

selling point harder.

Yeah.

Because then the guy's been screwed over by a coach and you're skeptical.

Exactly.

Right.

Exactly.

So

it's part of the game i guess

it happens in any industry yeah i think so i think all we i was just talking to that guy out there about how all the industries are transforming with ai and you know all the jobs are going away for every industry i i also do business development for a modeling agency and we see now that human models are ceasing to exist at this point no way they're using ai they're using ai for everything wow um it's wild That's a lot of business that's going to disappear.

Everything.

The entertainment industry, who knows what's going to happen, how how it's going to transition but ai is taking over you know multi-industries are you scared of it

it's exciting in one way right because the capabilities can be so beneficial um but it is scary because who knows where the limits at who's going to be enforcing you know the laws for that and making sure that people are still reputable authentic people that are operating these businesses so that is a little scary you got to at least start using it i think it's the main yeah you have to be immersed in it understand how it works for sure as we i'm using it every day at this point for your business yeah i see people talking to it on their walks now it's wild that voice chat i know i'm not on that level yet but yeah i use it for like pdfs all the time for like graphics for businesses you know you just plug it all in and it puts something out for you it's good for making decks it's good for health advice yeah captions for instagram oh okay i love that yeah i'm gonna have to try that my caption game three week it's hard i just have a one sentence caption the algorithm and everything it changes every freaking day i gotta talk about some of of these clips from your first podcast oh boy okay let's go uh putting yourself before your children what did you mean by that one you have to pour into yourself like i was saying before you have to make sure your cup is full before being able to successfully pour into your children um a lot of women are pouring from an empty cup and then it leads to issues in their relationship and their marriage with their family dynamics so just making sure that you do something for yourself to make yourself feel fulfilled uh to be able to successfully emotionally regulate your children and you know raise them in a way that that is beneficial for their well-being yeah that's an interesting one because people would call you selfish i'd imagine 100 i get selfish all the time but you know how are you it's kind of like a ceo of a business right if the ceo doesn't have the right vision in mind for the business how is he going to lead all of his employees to build that vision for him you have to have a concrete idea of what you know you want in your children and the type of family you want to live and you have to know who you are yourself as a woman before being able to construct these little humans into people that you want to put out into society the way that you see.

So I think it's really important to pour into yourself as a mom.

Lead by example too.

Lead by example.

They follow everything that you do.

They watch everything that you do.

You know, in my household, like fitness and health is extremely important.

And it's not teaching them or talking to them necessarily about it, just showing them, you know, this is, we're going to work out every day.

We're going to eat healthy foods.

And a lot of times they pick up more on that than, you know, telling them or teaching them directly.

Yeah.

And it same goes for relationships.

You know, if I'm in a relationship with someone, the communication styles need to be healthy.

We have to resolve conflict healthy because these are things that they're going to carry with them for the rest of their life and it's going to impact their life and trajectory of their life, you know, very much so.

I just learned that recently because I have an avoidant style and I learned that my parents would fight a lot and my dad would just leave the room or whatever.

So I guess I learned it from him.

It translates right down.

I'm an avoidant too.

Oh, you are?

Oh, absolutely.

And it sucks in business, though, because I know.

Anytime things get spicy, I walk away.

Yeah, I just rather not deal with it.

Yeah, I let it pile up.

Yeah.

So I've been working on fixing that, but it's tough because you absorb it and then 100% your whole life is that way.

What's your partner?

Is she anxious or avoidant?

She's a anxious.

No, she's a secured something.

Secure.

We love that.

Okay.

As an avoidant, that's good.

I feel like.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Normally avoidance gets with anxious people and it's just a push and pull.

Oh, that's a bad, that's a bad dynamic.

No, she tackles conflict head-on.

Perfect.

And she makes me address conflict.

That's good.

It's super uncomfortable, but I know I have to do it.

Yeah, you're growing through it.

That's good.

Yeah.

But

yeah, you learn it from your you 100% do.

You learn all these things and you don't even realize that you're teaching it to your kids, right?

But it pops up, you know, just for my kids, for example, my partner and I, we would have these little fights and, you know, he would poke fun at me with these little jokes.

And I've noticed it in my children.

They'll poke fun at little things here and there.

And it's making fun of people.

That's the core root of it.

But to them, that's how they're resolving a conflict.

And it just translates immediately down.

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well i guess what would you consider flirting

um what would i consider flirting if you're talking to another woman with a

let me rephrase

i feel like as an adult you know right from wrong, you know your intentions behind a conversation, right?

So if my man is talking to a woman with the intention of having some type of sexuality compatibility or emotional co-regulation with them, then I think that that's cheating.

I think you should lean into your partner for those conversations instead of trying to find another person of the opposite sex to have those conversations with.

I don't think it's appropriate.

What about him having friends that are girls?

That's 100% acceptable.

I think that men and women platonic relationships are extremely important um and i think that you can gain so much from the other sex as far as perspectives go on conflicts and how you know different situations and relationships and business and it's very important to have those other insights however it needs to be respectful and your partner needs to be aware of those friendships uh without you having those conversations about it behind their back so you believe men and women can be friends absolutely wow i advocate oh my god i advocate for that that's where we disagree really Tell me why.

Why do you disagree?

So men are biologically programmed to reproduce.

When they see a physically attractive woman, most guys acknowledge that and they have these impulses.

I agree with that.

However, I think it's up to the woman to set those boundaries.

And most men are okay with those boundaries and they will be respectful as long as the woman sets those boundaries.

Yeah.

I think a lot of times there's a disconnect, you know, where men have a different motive, an alternative motive.

And these women like that validation.

They like that attention.

So they feed into that man wanting wanting to chase and get that sexuality component.

Right.

But if you have two healthy, secure people, I think you can still have a very platonic relationship.

Agreed.

Yeah.

I just feel like most men can't get to that level.

I don't think they can control their impulses.

I think it's a women issue.

I think women can't set the boundaries because they thrive on that validation.

They thrive on validation from men.

And so they say, oh, this is my guy friend.

You know, he's a really good friend for me.

But then they look for compliments.

They look for reassurances.

you're crossing that line.

You're crossing that platonic boundary that you should feed into your partner for that reassurance, that validation.

No, that's a good point.

They'll show up to the gym and legging.

100%.

Yeah.

And then they get mad at the man for wanting to have those urges.

And it's like, well, you didn't set the boundary or the proper tone for that relationship to be held in a respectful way.

I love that.

Okay.

So it's the woman's fault.

Let's go.

Yeah.

So what are the, what's that conversation like when you're setting these boundaries with your boyfriend?

With a guy friend or with my boyfriend?

I guess both.

So if I'm dating a man i tell him like hey i have guy friends i'd love for you to meet them um you know we can grab a dinner introduce you i don't know whatever that looks like i think it's important to meet all of my friends men or women if i'm dating someone um but if you break up with that guy your guy friends would want to hook up with you you set a boundary So you're having a conversation from the beginning with a guy friend.

Absolutely.

Like, hey, I really value your friendship.

I really value the relationship that we have.

However, I don't see this going romantically anywhere.

So you friends own them.

Absolutely.

If I see no future with them, what if I just really enjoy your conversation, your presence in my life?

What if I enjoy your family and your perspectives on how you navigate the world?

I'm going to be, I want you to be in my lifestyle.

However, I'm not going to allow that to be a romantic.

Okay.

You have a lot of trust in your partner.

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah, I don't think most people would be okay with this setup at all.

You have to.

How are you going to date someone and not trust them?

I really, truly do not understand all of these people that are in these relationships, not trusting their partners.

It's wild to me.

And like the idea of love is you give your entire heart, your entire being, your entire trust to this person.

And if they hurt you, they hurt you.

But how are you loving fully if you are still thinking in the back of your mind that they're going to hurt you?

That's not love.

I think a lot of people have past trauma.

They've been cheating.

And they need to work on that before they get into a relationship, honestly, because your partner is not responsible for your past trauma.

I think that's complete bullshit.

You're 100% responsible for your own emotions, your own feelings.

And I think that you need to trust your partner until they give you a reason not to.

And if they give you a reason not to, then why are you with them?

Don't be with them.

Go with someone else.

Yeah, no, that's so true.

A lot of people project their

thing.

Yeah.

Wow.

So you've never been cheated on then.

I've been cheated on for sure.

Oh, you have?

Absolutely.

So you worked through that.

I worked on it.

I worked on it a lot.

Wow.

Well done.

Thank you.

I'm seriously impressed.

You have to, though.

If you want to find true love and, you know, have that long-lasting relationship, you have to fix those insecurities within yourself and you have to understand that you can't control another person right their wants their needs you can't control that they're going to do what they want to do regardless at the end of the day no matter what

what would you do if your man cried in front of you i would be there for him what do you mean

if he cried over what um the context yeah you're right there's there's yeah there's a lot of things here

I don't know.

Yeah, I guess there's legitimate reasons to cry, like if a loved one passes away.

Absolutely.

I would say say that's valid.

I'd be like, how could I do that?

That one I could see.

But a lot of red pill just says not to cry in front of your woman.

That's like a red pill ideology.

That's so messed up.

I think that is so messed up.

As a man, you feel emotions just like every other person in the world.

And it's valid for you to express those emotions.

I think when you have a secure relationship and a secure partner, you should feel comfortable enough to express those emotions to them.

And they should help you navigate through those feelings to get to a better place mentally.

Yeah, I love that.

Do you feel like social media has ruined dating?

Absolutely.

All these videos from these coaches that we're talking about, the ideas of dating, there's not a mold that fits all.

Everyone is so different.

I think that instead of turning to the internet to find your dating advice, you need to really look within yourself.

and see what you're looking for, what your wants and needs are, what your insecurities are.

You know, what kind of person are you attracting?

It's so important to really be connected to yourself before you put yourself out there in a dating world.

And the internet can really,

you know, change the way that you think and the things that you're looking for in a way that doesn't necessarily align with the long-term outcome of what you want.

Yeah.

I'm of the belief that you should work on yourself first.

Always.

And most people don't want to do that.

They never want to take somebody else.

They just want to date with their baggage.

They want to have someone pull them out of the ground and fix their problems for them and have someone to be their therapist.

And

unfortunately, you can't have a successful relationship like that unless you feel full yourself and connected within yourself.

Absolutely.

So

that was awesome.

Yeah, that was a really good podcast, though, for real.

Really?

Yeah, because you came out of nowhere.

No one knew who you were.

You were low-key and then you just got hundreds of thousands of views.

Yeah, no, it was a great experience.

I think the number one thing, you know, about talking with people is just being authentic.

Yeah.

Being authentically yourself.

And a lot of people on social media, they're leaning into other ideologies that they see online or they're following a trend socially that they think is acceptable.

I think if you're authentically yourself, you attract the right audience and you connect with the types of people that align with your own visions.

So are you coaching mainly women, mothers?

I don't coach anyone.

Oh, you don't?

I don't coach a single person.

I do business development.

So I help businesses grow from startup to a growth phase.

Got it.

Yeah.

So what type of clients is that?

I work across multiple industries.

So I work in the logistics space for a company out of Detroit, Michigan.

And then I also work with a life coach in Los Angeles.

And then I do modeling.

So entertainment industry, working with models to grow an agency in Portland, Oregon.

Dang.

It doesn't even matter the industry.

It doesn't matter the industry.

It's all the fundamentals and structures are the same.

Matchmaking, like you said earlier.

It's adult matchmaking.

That's the concept most people miss in a business.

They think about all these other systems and they don't realize at the end of the day, it comes down to the people operating these systems.

and the personalities that they have.

And you're working with a lot of males, I'd imagine.

I work with all men.

Yes.

Wow.

Yeah.

What a lifestyle.

Yeah, your boyfriend must really trust you.

That's interesting.

He does trust me.

Yeah.

And you guys are dating distance too, which is even crazier to me.

It's wild, right?

Yeah, that doesn't really work based off statistics.

Statistics, yeah.

I think that when you have this concept or idea, you

kind of sabotage it yourself sometimes.

So I go into everything with an open mind.

How did you two meet?

We met in my building.

He lives in my building when he's in Portland.

Got it.

So he's in Vegas usually?

Yeah, he has a house here in Vegas.

So I fly back and forth usually to see him.

And what are you looking for, like, for a man to bring to a relationship right now for you?

Oh, that's a great question.

So I think for a man in a relationship for me, it's really important that they bring emotional stability.

So they need to be emotionally intelligent and be able to regulate their own emotions before entertaining anything in my life.

I want a partner.

I don't want someone I need to take care of or vice versa.

I don't need someone to take care of me.

Somebody that has a growth mindset, wants to always be a better person every single day of their life and has a common vision, overall goal similar to mine.

These are all things that I look for in a partner.

Wow.

You didn't mention money.

You didn't mention the top things that

are usually mentioned.

Why would I?

We're both adults.

I'm a grown woman.

I can provide for myself.

You know, if we were to have more children in the future, that'd be a different conversation and we could restructure it at that point.

But I think for the time being, when you're just dating, you come to the table with what you come with.

The partner comes to the table with what they come with and you see if it's a good match so what if he made way less than you though i'm not looking for money wow i'm not looking for money that's a rare take oh i don't need money i don't need someone to provide for me um i think if you're looking at a relationship transaction like that it's very surface level and you're not going to be able to reach the depth of love that you desire

wow this is a rare take on this podcast really i have on a lot of only fans girls a lot of like

materialistic i mean we're in vegas Yeah.

Like dating in a major city like this is.

It's like the normal.

Yeah.

It's all about money and status.

And like, do you care about like social media?

Do I?

No.

Actually, I just started social media.

I've never cared about social media at all, but I think nowadays with society, you have to have an online presence.

Right.

Especially as a business owner.

You need to brand yourself as a person.

And that's where I see the industries going.

So I do think social media is important if you're working for yourself or working in business.

Yeah.

But a lot of women sexualize themselves on their social media.

They sure do.

Which gets views.

And then they wonder why they can't find a fulfilling relationship.

Damn.

Calling people out.

Let's go.

And then

I guess what's the next step for you?

You just grow the business.

Yeah, I just want to find more clients.

I really enjoy my job.

I work across multiple industries and meet so many different types of personalities that I gain so much insight and experience by those relationships.

And so I just want to take on more clientele and, you know, really continue to improve my skill set of adult matchmaking and helping businesses grow to be as successful as they deserve to be.

Did you have a mentor that taught you all this?

I didn't.

You did all this on your own?

I've always worked in startups.

So I worked in startups for years.

And

I developed such a skill set from those experiences that I was like, you know, I'm just going to work for myself.

I'm just going to do this for myself and utilize that skill set for multiple industries and multiple businesses.

And it allows me to have a flexible life that works with having two children.

I have two young children.

And so I need a flexible lifestyle.

And it just really aligned very well.

You got a confident presence to you.

Do I?

Yeah.

I could see why people are a little scared of you in the way.

They're scared of me.

No.

Why?

They'll definitely listen to you.

You're just confident.

It's because I'm in a male-based

business.

I have to be confident.

And I think as a woman, especially a beautiful woman, men take you for granted and they don't take you seriously.

Oh, 100%.

And so, having that confidence, having a strong level of professionalism, having strong interpersonal communication skills goes a long way as a beautiful woman.

Yeah.

And I think that's where a lot of women are scared to get into business, entrepreneurship, because the numbers are stacked against them.

Absolutely.

Like every industry and business is male-dominated.

Absolutely.

And I think that women have such a pivotal,

you know, intuition that it helps businesses grow astronomically.

Did I say that right?

Astronomically.

Astronomically.

What is it?

Astronomically, right?

Astronomically.

No, that's not what I say.

Exponentially.

Oh, exponentially.

No, I'm exponentially.

I think women have that intuition piece within themselves that allow businesses to grow exponentially.

And we have a skill set that men don't possess.

The intuition, you know, the nurturing, we can really help nurture a business in different ways than men can.

Oh, 100%.

So it doesn't have to be one or the other.

I don't think men or women in business, I think we could do it together.

I would have been screwed without my fiancé.

Really?

She's saved me from so many bad mistakes.

Like, does she do all the back end stuff for you?

All the back end, all the intuitive, like reading people.

That's what women are amazing for.

Yeah.

They're so good at it.

So good at it.

Because we're just moving so fast as guys.

Yeah.

We don't have time to like think about what's actually going on sometimes.

Absolutely.

The most successful businesses I've ever seen, they have a strong male visionary CEO and then their right-hand woman.

Barstool Sports.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The CEO is a woman.

Yeah.

And Alex Ramosi.

Oh, they crush it.

Crush it.

Him and Layla.

That's a deadly combo.

I love them.

They're great.

Yeah, I got to go to one of their workshops yet.

Oh, that's good.

Have you been to those?

No, I haven't.

You're in Vegas?

Yeah.

What do you do?

So it's businesses doing a million or more a year, and they just give you advice.

Oh, that's so cool.

I would love to go to that.

Yeah, shout out to them.

I read both his books, actually.

I have two.

And I'm not a big reader.

I'm not either.

But those books?

They're good.

Fire.

Yeah.

Shout out to Alex.

Yeah.

You listen to any podcasts or how do you consume your?

How do you study like new stuff?

Experience.

I throw myself out there and things I don't know how to do and I figure it out.

Wow.

No mentor.

No mentor.

You think you'll get one eventually?

Hopefully.

I feel like

that's a game changer.

Yeah.

Do you have any good recommendations?

In your space?

I'd have to dive into my Rolodex.

But you're into WhatsApp now, so you could do that.

I'm on WhatsApp.

Yeah.

Alex is amazing.

I love Alex.

He's going to be expensive.

He's going to be a lot, but that'd be so cool.

Where can people find you?

Are you going to start up your own podcast eventually?

No, no podcast and the plans for me.

I'm just excited to connect with people like yourself and share my experience.

But I'm on social media.

Carly Uncut is

I'm starting to post a little bit more frequently so we can get some traction.

Okay, well check her out, guys.

If you think you can work with her, shoot her a message, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

Cool.

Sounds good, guys.

See you next time.