The New Media Era: Why Athletes Are Becoming Influencers | Bud Dupree DSH #1416

Yeah, so if I'm not if I'm not a continuous person that's on the media or in the media like they're gonna forget about you

So if you ain't really make creating controversy or doing great in life like you can be having the best life ever under the radar, but people gonna forget about you.

Oh easily.

But if you want to be a person that's known like you gotta be in existence.

Yeah

All right guys, we got bud here celebrity poker tournament.

You said you almost won that shit, right?

Listen, I started playing poker two days ago on my phone.

First time ever.

I feel like I did a great job.

Came in today.

A lot to look forward to.

I don't want to think too much into it for next year.

So I'm not about to go home and study.

I'm not about to go play more.

I'm about to just, you know, when I play, I play.

Yeah.

And come out here next year, man, and try to take the crown.

Get it.

Beginner's luck, they call it, right?

Believe it.

Yeah.

No, major.

So you're not big on gambling?

You don't play anything?

Nah, nah nah nah i don't really gamble a lot in the casino i like the

i like to gamble on like fights yeah uh sports betting yeah with bud crawford fight yeah i want to bet on bud every time if bud crawler fight no matter who we bet who we fighting i'm betting on bud crawford bet on yourself uh for sure that's the best bet you can make yeah yeah yeah i wish i could scratch that i can't bet on myself but if i could bet on myself i would you know but i like to bet on bud yeah but crawford yeah i love it man what's the main focus for you right now uh man though it's football finishing this season out this is my 11th year um Congrats.

Not a lot of people make it that long, man.

Yeah, exactly, man.

It's been a blessing.

God bless me to be here at this point.

I just want to continue to have fun, being an example for my kids, showing them that hard work and dedication really pays off.

Yeah, 11 years.

Average NFL career, two and a half years.

Most definitely.

Crazy.

Not for long.

That's what they call it.

Yeah, you've probably seen so much turnover on every team you're on.

Yeah, see, people don't understand.

Like, I was a part of the era where the new guys wanted to.

I was a part of the era when they come to your door and knock on your door during training count and cut you.

Really?

Yeah, they can't cut you during training count no more.

Oh, wow.

They let you go through the whole training count.

Eric make it through training camp.

Why'd they change that?

Oh, the new CBA came in and they decided, you know, it was kind of embarrassing for guys.

People were getting cut on TV.

But yeah, man, I remember being in the drawing room in Pittsburgh,

five in the morning.

You're caught.

Whatever your name is, no.

Just for instance, Joe Smo.

Bring your playbook.

Yeah.

That is embarrassing, though.

For sure.

You in the room with somebody?

Then you see a new person walk in the next day?

That's shit like that.

Shit like Gladiator School.

Yeah, it's cutthroat, huh?

Yeah, cutthroat.

But it's cool.

It's part of it.

At least I'm learning.

Toland did a great job with that, making sure people like knowing, understanding it's Gladiator School.

Yeah.

What's the biggest thing you learned from him?

He's one of the greatest coaches of all time, right?

Yeah, definitely, man.

Just basically just not never sugarcoating.

Taking everything for what it is, A players being A players.

If you're a B player, be a B player.

But like, in those certain times, like, we need, if you're an A player, you you got to be an A player in every situation.

You know, him and Harbaugh,

probably the two best coaches I ever had a part of being a part of.

Harbaugh is a very different

type of person, man.

But he's like a great individual.

Something about him.

It's just like, it's a feel.

You know how sometimes you feel the energy.

Yeah.

You walk up to him, you're like,

you ain't say two words, man, but I feel like you're just a great person.

You know what I'm saying?

Some people call him aura.

Yeah, man, that man, one of them.

And I feel like

he's just a person.

Like, I know Harbaugh for one year he's a great he's a great person man great opportunities uh he's just one of those guys yeah because some coaches want to know you personally and some are just like let's keep it separate right yeah yeah but him and tummy they they like neck and neck they like the same type of ordeal they're the same type of player they care about the person wow behind under the helmet

i feel like that's good because it makes you want to work even harder right man work more hard like if he if if i see harbaugh and tumlin like those type of guys like going hard for me outside of

uh what it takes to be a person for their team.

It's going to make you go hard every day for them.

Like, let's talk about family.

Let's talk about your old stuff.

Let's talk about what you did back in the days.

Like, kind of like get to know me.

They say coaching is one of the hardest jobs in the world.

Yeah, I don't never want to be no coach.

No, for sure.

I don't know what to be.

Yeah, it's crazy.

I don't never want to be a coach for sure.

I mean, their average 10 years probably might be less than a player.

No, 100%.

You have two bad seasons.

Your ass might not be the head coach ever again in your life.

Think about it.

You can go be a head coach.

You have two bad seasons under 500 200 years in a row the gm gonna fire your ass

and you're gonna come back in you probably never be a head coach again like you just gotta be a position coach crazy i feel like two years is not enough time to build a culture yeah and you're really you're right it ain't but in a sense though it is it's pressure your first year you get to get your you get to get the guys out of there Your second year, you get to bring your guys in.

If you make it to that third year, they're expecting you to win.

So before you get out of that second year, you ain't won.

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They got a hard opportunity.

They think it's hard, but we got to go neck and neck.

Like, the players and coaches really need to be on the same page.

This always feels like coaches versus players, but nah, like we're on the same team.

It's the coaches and players versus the

owners.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, a lot of politics involved.

Yeah, because if we lose, the owner are going to tell them not to sign you back.

Fire the coach.

So, like, we're really on the same team, but like we really don't see it that way sometimes.

Damn, that's nuts.

What season is the most memorable for you out of your 11 seasons?

The year I told my ACL, I would say that.

Really?

Yeah.

I told my ACL my contract year.

Damn.

That was my most bad timing.

Well, God bless me.

It still worked out perfectly for me.

Tennessee gave me an opportunity.

Gave me a chance to be financially stable for my family.

But.

At the end of the day, man, that was one of my best years I probably ever had in football, like nine sacks and like eight games.

Damn.

On a tear.

To my ACL, you know, kind of like pivoted.

Took two to three years to recover from that.

Holy crap.

Yeah, nah, it's crazy because I was just getting back started like two years ago, and I got in the Falcons and last year in the Chars.

Like, those are the years where I feel like I was getting better and better from the ACL Terror.

That's a tough one.

Yeah, AP's here.

He tore his, right?

Yeah, he did both, right?

Yeah, I think both.

And some more.

I played with AP in Tennessee.

Oh, yeah?

Yeah, he came to me in Tennessee.

Last year.

I remember that season.

He was still popping off at age 40.

Yeah, still, yeah, 40.

Still big with Mountain Yards.

Yeah, Yeah, he was mad.

He wouldn't get the ball.

Well, we had Derek.

Like, man, you ain't about to get the ball, but he got Derek here in front of him, but that boy can get the ball 50 times a game.

Yeah.

No, he's the best running back ever.

Do it, really.

I think he's the go.

But AP is AP him.

Yeah, he's him for sure.

Have you accomplished everything you wanted to so far?

Nah.

You still want more?

Yeah, I still want more.

Definitely.

Every time, you know, competitor injuries played me, man.

I feel like that.

I really want to get the opportunity to be one of the best to ever play the game.

That's just a part of it.

But I mean, God got a plan for everybody.

Yeah.

That's just what happens.

I'm still going to go out there and grind every day to my best ability and play, you know, hard for my team, for me, my family.

It is what it is.

Yeah.

Injuries ruined so many careers

in the NFL.

I'm glad I stayed in it day long.

You know what I'm saying?

So Tennessee could have put me at the wayside, but I was getting hurt every week.

Damn.

Yeah, yeah.

Not often.

Peck, oblique, knees.

Thighs, everything.

This was a repetitive cycle.

Because when you're coming off a tear, your whole body's weak, right?

Yeah, you're compensated for everything.

And you got to do it.

You got to rehab, right?

you got to rehab right you got to rehab right the correct way yeah damn that's nuts man what are you doing outside of football i know family's big for you yeah definitely family man uh you know making making no staying staying in tune with everybody man uh

uh

that's basically what it is man got a lot of stuff outside of football with real estate adventures and stuff like that but most importantly man you know um just staying the course that's smart that you're already investing a lot of athletes i feel like you got to kind of like sometimes you got to be in the moment uh

and you know the older guys can tell you that like once you take the helmet helmet off and start playing football, people kind of look at you different.

Even though you may be a Super Bowl champ, one of the MVPs,

you know, team MVPs, offensive player year, defense player years.

When you take the helmet off, people kind of look at you differently like, ah, you has been.

So while you playing, man, you got to kind of like take advantage, but you got to have like your right team in place.

That's what I just learned about having the right team in place later on.

You got to have that shit from day one.

People forget quick these days.

Quicker than ever.

They forget you.

News is like daily now.

It's not like it lasts.

Ain't no news, you the news.

You see what I'm saying?

So you come in now.

I'm gonna talk about, yeah, but no, let me come, they're gonna come and look at your show.

Yeah, so if I'm not, if I'm not a continuous person that's on the media or in the media, like they're gonna forget about you.

So if you ain't really creating controversy or doing great in life, like you can be having the best life ever under the radar, but people are gonna forget about you.

Oh, easily.

But if you want to be a person that's known, like, you gotta be in existence.

Yeah.

It's a new media now, too like uh tv's not getting views anymore it's crazy you say that i just told the boy cj whatever it was cj so i just told cj bro like so cool like listen we don't pay attention to them we don't look at the news when we home chilling it out

with the family like we look at y'all stuff we look at the podcast we look at influencers yeah we go type in their names like look at stuff like that like crazy like y'all platforms are becoming the the media the streamers are like the new media now yeah definitely high sonat people like that but it's hats out, no, not you too, but that's how podcasts too.

Yeah, that's how they are.

Yeah, y'all doing a great job, y'all, y'all built your own way.

And you can't say that y'all didn't create it because it wasn't here a couple years ago, it just became existence.

So, y'all made a way for y'all for y'allselves

in a new world.

Yeah, I like athletes starting pods because now you get the mindset of a pro athlete.

Before you got some guy that never played sports talking on ESPN, you know what I mean?

Like PFF, yeah, yeah, for sure, exactly.

Like, PFL comes in and they rate a player, let's say he had

a 50 grade.

You go get your grade

in your office with your team and your coach.

You got a 90.

So if I got a 90 with my with my coach, I get a 50 with PFF.

Yeah.

Like, they don't know football.

They just say stuff that they think is right.

They think that's what they think is wrong.

100%.

Like, PFF ain't football, man.

It's analytics.

And that's why I ain't gonna lie.

That's why I started some shit that

let players rate players.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

I created a platform to let players rate players.

Oh, yeah.

That's cool.

Yeah.

I was just.

My bad.

Yeah.

I'm going to have that going.

That's going to be coming out real soon.

Oh, hell yeah.

We'll link that below.

I was watching Gilbert Arena's show, and they were talking about Draymond Green.

So if you look at his stats, like, and you just looked at the numbers, you know, he wouldn't even be in the Hall of Fame.

Well, definitely.

But if you analyze his whole game and what he does on the court, Hall of Famer.

You see what I'm saying?

Yeah.

But if you PFF, they'll give him a 50.

Give him a 40.

You'll be like, man, he ain't nothing.

But

you go look at, turn the film on.

He's the person that's making everything happen.

He's a defensive anchor.

He's setting the screens.

And he's fighting.

He's fighting.

Yeah.

He throws hands.

And he throws hands.

Yeah, but Draymond throw hands, man.

That's some old school basketball.

Old school basketball.

He definitely can play back in the days when them boys were two-piecing coaches.

God bless Kobe right now.

But you know, when they was throwing hands, like two-piecing each other in the middle of the game, the Pacers fights, like

the bad boys back in the day.

Yeah, the Nates.

them boys was yeah basketball has gotten soft do you feel like football has gotten a little soft compared to the old days for sure you can't really hit nobody like you really hit back in the day and you hit somebody too hard right now right now they're gonna give you a flag you can't lower your head damn yeah

like for someone like you right oh for sure like the biggest hit i had part of my career like matt more i hit the matt moore from the dolphins and i was on the steelers

i probably derailed his ass but That cost me $30,000.

Holy crap.

Yeah, but back in the day when Jane Harrison was taking quarterbacks from the ground to the air and dumping them on their neck yeah

all fans in the world did would say like that's a great tackle that's a great hit but now you hit somebody so hard and guess what happened you get fined 40 000.

that sucks because now every time you hit someone in the back of your head you're like am i about to get fined yeah so like how you gonna be a savage you can't really be a savage for real you're holding yourself back yeah you gotta be like all right it's tackle zone damn me being that tackle zone that's crazy but if i'm a dog i'm a dog i'm trying to go i'm gonna smack them so yeah what it is when did those rules start happening was it recently i said three four years ago there must have been too many injuries or something right

yeah people are going to sleep

bro like hey man says ryan shazer is my boy we played on the stillers we're playing the bingos the bingles and stillers was like the bingos and stillers are like a gladiator school yeah we played in they had burford then they had patman jones pat man jones great player no burford burford was knocking people out back then uh we had a b on the team every game we played them boys for a two-year stretch it was two people going to sleep

each game.

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Sleep like cold.

Holy crap.

So the game, Shazir went to sleep, AB went to sleep that same game.

That's when A.B.

Oh, was that the infamous concussion?

That's when AB got the concussion.

Yeah.

Shazier

ended up

the situation that happened to him.

We cried on the field at that time.

What happened?

Me and Vince Williams, he was middle linebacker at the time.

I mean, we looked at each other.

We were like, shit, it's body for body.

So the next one, we got to see somebody.

They came through.

The running back came through.

We slept him.

Jeez.

So now it just lets you know how violent the game is.

That bingos and Stillers history was a different type of rival.

That felt like high school rivalry.

Like when you hate your, you hate your next door neighbor.

Yeah.

Like, every day I see him, I just got to go.

It is what it is.

I got dangerous.

They say that was the hit that changed A.B.'s career, too.

That's what they said.

But before the game, people don't know, Burfitt came all the way to our side of the field and pushed Vince Williams.

Really?

Because Vinny tweeted and said,

When I see that boy in person, I'm going to paint that boy.

So, you know, in Florida, they say, Paint that boy.

That means they want to fight.

Damn.

So, yeah, they pushed up in the middle of the field by the hit.

So, it was just, it was, man, I loved it.

I loved at that time of the year.

Yeah.

They kind of game.

But now, man, you really can't do all that, man.

You're going to kind of like, they're going to kick you out of the league for real, bro.

I love rivalries.

I love it.

Rivalries are crazy.

Makes sports feel good.

Without rivalries, I wouldn't be interested in sports.

Yep.

The Chargers, I feel like our robbery is the Chiefs.

This year, too, felt like the Broncos with Bo Knicks there because Bo Knicks kind of was a hot topic.

But yeah, just my first year in the Chargers, the Chiefs, you can feel that tense.

You can feel that tenacity as soon as they step in the stadium with those.

We didn't win this year, but still.

I think you got time.

Looks like Kelsey's on his way out.

I think there's a window for them to be.

Yeah, yeah.

He needs to leave.

He needs to just retire this year.

He needs 35, yeah, for tight end.

Yeah, just go ahead and let us know.

Let us

let it happen.

Yeah.

That boy's still balling, though.

Shout out to him.

Good podcast, too.

For sure.

Crushing the podcast.

I think he sold for 100 million.

Damn.

Yeah.

There's a lot of money in podcasts, man.

You should look into it.

At heart.

Well, I know you already have your own show.

You said you interviewed me.

Yeah, but I don't do it like I don't do it like younger.

We'll talk after those.

Where can people find you and keep up with you, man?

Yeah, Bud underscore Dupree Instagram.

Everywhere, man, tap in.

Same thing.

Oh, yeah.

Check it out.

First name, last name.

See y'all.

Thanks, man.