The Real Deal About OnlyFans & Modern Dating | Farha Khalidi DSH #1390

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You got to admit, objectively, Andrew Wilson is good at debating.

Um,

yeah, he is, but I guess I just don't see the value in being good at debating if you're spreading something that sucks.

Because I feel like the whole point of debate is it's it's a means to an end.

I think if you put Andrew Wilson on a polygraph, I think he's 100% in it for like the blood sport.

Really?

Okay, guys, got Farha here today.

I saw her on a debate and reached out to her to come on.

Thanks for coming on.

Thanks for having me.

Yeah, good debate with Jake Shields.

Yeah, who do you think won?

Yeah, you asked me that.

I didn't have a good answer.

I felt like with debates, it's hard unless there's a clear winner.

If I wasn't a clear winner against Jake Shields, that's a skill issue.

He was saying women shouldn't vote.

Yeah, well, that was a strong stance.

But you changed his opinion a little bit, it seemed like.

Yeah, he ended up choosing genius women over the bottom rank of intelligence and men.

Right.

Which took a while, but yeah.

That's a fair point, right?

Yeah.

You know, intelligence should matter when it comes to voting.

Like, I don't think it has to, but if he's going to say women shouldn't vote because they're unintelligent, then I'm going to like press him on that.

But I don't think you have to be smart to vote.

Yeah.

Have you always been into politics?

Um, a little bit, yeah.

I feel like the past few years, I've leaned more into like the feminism red pill stuff kind of by accident, kind of like went on fresh and fit like two years ago and then went down that pipeline.

I got like addicted to those types of conversations.

Right.

I mean, I'm, oh, yeah, I've always been interested in politics, I guess, but I wasted, I want to say the past few years talking about like body count and the 19th with these red pillars but yeah yeah when the feminist movement was like popping off is that where you kind of just stood out and built your brand i've always been super feminist like i used to write for like a feminist magazine in like high school and college and stuff like that so it's it's just always kind of been my thing um

and then i kind of like built my tick tock up before i ever did any red pill shows doing like skits and comedy and a lot of it was i guess rooted in like feminism and and just being a little bit progressive i guess so then when the red pill stuff started blowing up um it kind of just fit perfectly with my niche because i would do like skits kind of like making fun of alpha type of guys and stuff but yeah did you feel like the feminine feminism movement ever got out of hand like it got too crazy no really no not at all wow because there's a lot of people that theorize red pill kind of spawned off of the feminism movement um they can say that for sure i i don't subscribe to that at all i mean they have yet to say a single thing that feminism has done wrong Like they'll say feminism's gone too far because, for instance, educated women are filing for divorce more.

And I'm like, if your stance is that the smarter someone is and then they make a decision that that decision's a bad decision, I would say that's a pretty dumb premise.

Like obviously smarter people make smarter decisions.

And if they're leaving bad relationships, that's,

you know what I mean?

That's on the men in that relationship.

But I don't know.

If, I don't know, do you have strong opinions on feminism?

I wouldn't say strong.

I just hear both sides.

I hear from the Red Pills saying that like the feminism movement just got crazy and that like one out of 15 women are on only fans now all these crazy like sayings you know

yeah i mean i wouldn't even see that as feminism in my opinion like a lot of feminists actually when you look at like who was protesting like long before only fans it was mostly feminists like it was feminists that were corralling like two million signatures to get things like ban because there was so much like child

what words i can say you can censor

put some corn emojis up there okay um child

uh sex trafficking stuff like that.

It was feminists who were like the sole protesters of it versus men were actually more likely to morally approve, were more likely to obviously be subscribers of things like Playboy.

But now, when OnlyFans dropped, now you have all these droves of men who are pretending like they're anti-sex work.

But what I feel like they're really against is just women like deriving clout out of sex work.

Because, again, these were men who were totally okay with things like pornhub.

Like in 2020, like New York Times dropped this like groundbreaking expose called The Children of, which detailed these countless stories of like minors being like trafficked,

drugged on camera and all that.

And there was not a single drop in male viewership after this groundbreaking expose.

We do not see any like male-driven anti-selectives like bubbling up in the wake of this expose, right?

Like none of them cared.

Like feminists were the only ones who were anti

for many reasons.

One, they thought it was unfair to your relationship to watch.

Two, they thought it's unfair to the women.

Like they cited all the like really horrible exploitative working conditions of

and prostitutes and strippers.

They cited the fact that like the average age a girl goes into street prostitution is literally age 12.

And one out of five American men have bought sex, right?

So it was mostly feminists who are against this.

They cite the fact that most strippers have like endured verbal or physical abuse and like 60% of men have been to a strip club.

They cite the fact that, you know, over half of women

are being trafficked.

And again, 60% of American men in the last month have watched mostly women who cared.

But now because of OnlyFans, you see all these men pretending to take a moral stance, but and they'll start, they'll talk about things like no fap.

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But the only moral stance against OnlyFans is just that they feel like they're being tempted to stray and waste their time versus they like literally turned a blind eye to actual exploitation, to actual trafficking.

But now, like, for instance, like two years ago, I did a debate with, um, they partnered, partnered me with Destiny against these two OnlyFans critics to do a debate called like, is OnlyFans the economic exploitation of lonely men?

And I just thought it was so rich that like the first time that men seem interested in talking about the intersection of sex work and exploitation is the idea that we're exploiting the probably married man who's like swiping his credit card every night to see like Belle Delphine get naked or like shower and cosplay or whatever.

But they weren't interested again in those discussions of sex work and exploitation when it came to like the fucking minors being trafficked into prostitution and stuff.

So that's why it's hard for me to take seriously.

And yeah, when I think of like true anti-sex work ethics, I 100% think of feminists.

I don't think of red pill because again, their only moral gripe with OnlyFans is just that they feel like it's not a good use of time for men.

And if that's the extent of their empathy, then I don't know, I wouldn't consider that a progressive stance.

Yeah.

Sorry, I know that was a long answer.

No, no, that's interesting.

So you said most feminists are not in favor of the porn industry, right?

I would say so.

Like

they're pro-sex worker, but they're anti-sex work generally, versus with Red Pill, it's the exact opposite.

They're pro-sex work, but they're anti-sex worker.

Cause again, all these men, they're promoting promiscuity to their male audiences.

They're saying things like, you should rack up a 50 body count before getting into a relationship because you need to like learn women.

So these aren't like people who are purporting like traditional values, but it was feminists who cited it.

Feminists obviously defend things like OnlyFans because they know that these girls are just being scapegoated for guys just wanting to shit on them out of jealousy for the fact that they're like buying houses and stuff.

But yeah, I wouldn't see OnlyFans as like a consequence of feminism going too far.

I would see OnlyFans as a consequence of like a rapacious industry in which women are, like I said, forced into things like,

and so women are going to be like, okay, well, if, you know, this industry is going to exist regardless and I'm going to be sexualized regardless, then, you know, I'm going to profit off of it.

But I would see that more.

If someone's anti-OnlyFans, I think they should 100% point the finger at anti-feminism.

Cause I would say anti-feminism is what prompted, again, industry.

Like Hugh Hefner is often credited with like marshalling and like the sexual revolution and stuff with Playboy.

Feminists hated him.

Like he literally had an internal memo leaked where he was pretty much like, feminists are our natural enemy.

Like we need to destroy them.

So by his own admission, like the father of the sexual revolution, if you want to call him that, he was anti-feminist, you know.

Why did feminists hate Hugh Hefner?

um they just felt like playboy was objectifying towards women they thought it painted women in you know like an adverse light and in a two-dimensional light wouldn't you say that about only fans girls though too

um

to be honest with you not as much like i would say out of all the iterations of sex work i feel like only fans is the most humanizing like when i like i categorize something like hooters what what a statement i'm just processing that well let me let me convince you um out of all the sex work and I use sex work very, very loosely.

So when I say sex work, I include things like hooters.

Like some people are like, oh, that's not sex work.

I'm like, R.I.P.

to hooters.

They just close down and things.

Bankruptcy?

Yeah.

Okay.

But no, I know what you meant.

Back in the day, that was, I would consider that sex work.

I would too.

I would say that's more dehumanizing because those women are playing a role, right?

They're wearing a costume.

They're not really showing their personality.

They're playing a role.

A stripper's not even using her real name.

She's, again, playing a role versus the OnlyFans girl.

Typically, you subscribe to a girl because you already know them.

Like someone like me, you've already seen me on like TikTok.

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Like you're, you want to see Farha specifically do acts on camera.

Is that necessarily progressive?

Not really, but I think that's way more progressive than just going to Hooters and being like, I'm just in the mood to see like hot blonde with tits today, or I'm just going to go to a strip club because I want to see a brunette today, or I'm going to go to a brothel and I'm going to specifically seek out like a 18 to 24-year-old, you know, redhead today.

Like, I think that's way more dehumanizing than being like, oh, like, I find this girl Farha hot on TikTok.

Like, I'm going to go look at her OnlyFans, right?

Would you agree with that?

Yeah, yeah.

From a business point of view, I like it actually, because you have more control.

Yeah, exactly.

Like, people talk about how OnlyFans is degrading.

And I'm like, I'm not going to argue it's empowering, right?

I don't think it has to be, but it's also like, out of all the iterations of sex work, this is the only one where you can like turn down a client for being too pushy and being mean to you.

Like some feminists still criticize OnlyFans.

Like Catherine McKinnon is a super big feminist.

She talks about how things like and sexual assault are evidence that like she's pretty extreme, that like the invention of gender is just a hierarchy, whatever.

She criticizes OnlyFans and says it's basically just a pimp, like a modern pimp, since it takes 20%.

And I can could see your argument argument but at the end of the day this is the only pimp that won't beat you for like tearing down anal from a client like this is the only pimp that won't to literally break you in as a good worker you know what I mean so that's why it's hard for me to really like buy into criticisms of only fans because again it's coming from the gender that is the principal like consumer of sex work again like 80 of them consume sex work so that's why it's hard for me to like entertain any like moral grandstanding from them on it right i mean yeah you'll go on a red pull podcast and then you'll get more subscribers.

So it's kind of ironic, right?

It's like these guys are hating, but they're also paying you.

Yeah.

And then the very hosts like still ask out these OnlyFans girls that they bring on to like dinner and stuff, you know?

But yeah.

Did that happen to you on the whatever podcast?

That's very specific.

Yeah, I know.

No.

Brian didn't hit you up after.

No, he's welcome to.

They just invited me on.

I was like, I've heard some interesting things.

So it's like an eight-hour show, right?

It gets longer every time I go on.

Like, I feel like the first time I went on, it was like four hours or three hours.

Now I think they're doing like eight-hour episodes.

Plus, you got to drive an hour because it's in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah, I think I'm doing two 1v1s back-to-back this Saturday.

Oh, yeah.

On it.

Yeah.

Well, this will come out after.

So can you reveal who you're debating?

It's supposed to be a guy named Jim Bob and then a guy named, I don't know who these people are, and a guy named Jim Dreyer.

There's like a new crop of just like Andrew Wilson wannabes who think that he's like the fucking goats.

And now there's all these like guys who are just copycats basically of him.

You got to admit, objectively, Andrew Wilson is good at debating.

Um,

yeah, he is, but I guess I just don't see the value in being good at debating if you're spreading something that sucks.

Because I feel like the whole point of debate is it's, it's a means to an end.

Like it's a tool to try and like push forward an ideology you actually believe in and think is good for society.

I think if you put Andrew Wilson on a polygraph, I think he's 100% in it for like the blood sport.

Really?

Yeah.

I mean, he even has in his bio like blood sports debater.

So yeah, he's a good debater, but he also is in it just for the sake of debate, in my opinion.

So, you don't think he actually believes what he's debating on when it comes to like dating and relationships?

No, of course not, because one, he again, like purports traditional values.

His, I'm not going to shit on his personal relationships, but let's just say, like, his current family situation isn't the most traditional.

The other thing is, he'll go on a podcast like Brian's, and he's a tradcon, right?

Or like, he calls himself like a paleo ChristCon, like further back than TradCon, like paleo.

Um, and at the same time, he doesn't offer any pushback, really.

Maybe he does in like sprinkles to someone like Brian, who says, like, you shouldn't get married, like, marriage is a trap, like, women are temptresses.

He doesn't really offer much pushback, and still, he'll co-sign on to the pushback of the OnlyFans girls.

And it's like, I'm sorry, which person in this arrangement has more sway over the general public?

Brian, who has 4 million subscribers and is telling his audience that women are like temptresses, marriage is a trap, or this single like college girl that they found off the street who's saying something like, yeah, like my body counts eight.

Like, if you're actually a tradcon, which party like deserves more pushback in that moment for like not aligning with your values, you know what I mean?

Or he constantly like glazes people like Andrew Tate on Twitter and he's just like, we need to not turn on Andrew Tate.

We've let feminists get too far.

So I'm just like, you're a trad con and yet you're co-signing on to like Andrew Tate.

But that's the thing with a lot of these traditionalists is I feel like tradcon is honestly just red pill in sheep's clothing because you'll see people like Candace Owens who are again, like, they'll shit on people like Kim Kardashians, but then they'll dick ride Kanye West or she'll like, you know, again, simp for Fresh and Fit, like she went on his show.

And I don't think she offered them any pushback.

And again, she just gives pushback to the sex workers.

And she went on Brian's show.

I don't think maybe like there'll be one clip of someone like Michael Knoll saying to Brian like, oh, no, you should get married for sure.

But they'll say it in the more of like a buddy-buddy way, not in the same like tortureistic humiliation ritual way that they

target onto like, the actual girls on the panel, you know?

So it's like, even Ben Shapiro has said like, yeah, like with Andrew Tate, like, I agree with his diagnoses, but I disagree with his prescriptions.

I'm like, how could you agree with his diagnoses?

Like, he said, like, his diagnoses in themselves are like gender hierarchy.

And he says, you know, women are like this.

You know, they want a man who's like this.

They're, they're happier when they submit and, you know, being at home and stuff.

So either like they're not being honest about what they actually believe or they're just like, I don't know.

What's your opinion on it?

On marriage or just like dating in general?

Marriage, I mean, I still, it's tough.

You see a lot of guys talk about the negatives of it.

Paul Pierce just said marriage isn't worth it for most men.

You got guys like Tate saying it's not worth it for the man.

So from a man point of view, I could see that argument when you have a lot of resources,

but I still believe in it.

I mean, I'm getting married in a few months.

Oh, nice.

Congratulations.

I've been together for eight years.

So I don't know.

I think it's case by case.

I think a lot of people try to give this broad advice, but everyone's situation is different.

Like, look at you.

Like, you're ball and you're making a ton of money.

Marriage for you is you're not going to be able to relate to the average girl.

Um, what do you mean?

Like, you're saying I shouldn't get married?

No, I'm saying in the sense of like, you're going to have a lot of resources and money and stuff when you get married.

Right.

The average girl is not in that situation.

You know what I mean?

It's a different dynamic, I think.

Yeah, I guess I just don't agree with their rhetoric that like marriage is a trap for men.

Like, it just makes no sense when you look at the statistics.

Like, marriage confers a literal survival benefit to men.

Like, married men literally live longer than unmarried men.

A divorced man is in the highest bracket for things like suicide, depression, drug abuse and stuff.

But they want to pretty much instill, they want to instill so much fear into women by being like, if you don't get married, like the second half of your life is over.

And I feel like it's such a projection because I'm like, that's actually not true.

Like unmarried women in their 60s actually has the lowest depressive rate out of women who are married or otherwise married.

And that's because like a lot of these women, they're shoring up like most of the household work, even if they're still like the primary breadwinners.

So they're doing most of the work.

Like men in marriages actually do less housework than when they were single because when they're single, they're like, you know, they have to clean up after themselves.

But now when they're married, they basically have like a mom that they fuck as vulgar as that sounds.

That's basically what it is.

So I think it's just funny that, you know, Red Pill and like Tradcons want to act as if marriage is like, I'm not saying marriage is a bad deal for women, but I just think it's funny to look at the fact that it literally increases your longevity as a man.

And this is depressing.

Reversely,

sometimes it decreases your longevity as a woman because not necessarily that it's like depressing or bad, but it's like because you're doing so much work.

You're taking care of not just your children, but basically now you're like, you know, your son of a husband and stuff.

So I don't know.

I just think it's dishonest or I don't think it's dishonest.

Yeah, I think it's like very strategic for them to try and now like reverse psychology women into being like, no, C, like you'd be so lucky to get married.

Like no one's going to marry you.

And it's like.

That's always been the best deal for men, in my opinion.

I think, yeah, there's a lot of projecting because you see these men that have amassed a huge net worth they get divorced and they lose half so then you'll see these articles about jeff bezos losing 50 billion dollars and then i think that scares a lot of guys and then you'll because they're going to be in that situation well just like you'll see myron talking about it like you'll lose half your your money or whatever don't get married stuff like that It's just so funny because didn't she like help him build that company and then he wittingly had an affair and left her?

Like in what universe is he the victim?

They had a prenup too, I think, but since he cheated, it was null.

Yeah, I just think it's funny that people like think the sob story there is like the male billionaire adulterer who like co-built this company with his like loving and faithful wife.

I'm assuming she was faithful.

Yeah.

So you're optimistic about marriage though for yourself?

It depends.

I definitely wouldn't get married for the sake of it because I think like a bad marriage or someone who doesn't meet your value system or doesn't respect you, I do think is more disadvantageous.

for a woman versus like a man, even with an average marriage with a woman like he doesn't love that much, it's still good for him, right?

Because he gets that like, you know, live-in bang-made mom and stuff.

Versus for a woman, I feel like it is more taxing and draining to be married to a guy.

You know, there's a reason that women are more likely to file for divorce.

It's because if you're married to a guy who doesn't respect you, he's constantly like dismissing you, having affairs.

Like, I think David Buss found that, like, across cultures, like 60% of men commit adultery.

Really?

Yeah.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

That's way higher than I thought.

Yeah.

I mean, it's across cultures.

So maybe in certain cultures, it's higher.

Like, obviously, in areas where gender norms are more extreme, like, you know, it's higher and stuff.

I wonder how they conducted that study too.

yeah i'm not sure um because you would assume a lot of guys would lie yeah so that's why so it could be even higher you know yeah that's the depressing part um so yeah i guess my point is like i don't think marriage is bad for women i just think like for men it's better to be in an average marriage in a lackluster marriage than no marriage statistically versus for a woman i would say it's generally better for your well-being and mental health to be in a marriage where the person actually respects you and matches your values and you know you can test that before getting married versus entering like an average marriage.

Cause I think that's going to be more disadvantageous to you as a woman.

Makes sense.

You see a lot of Red Pull guys saying don't date women that have kids from a prior relationship.

What do you think about that?

Yeah, I feel like Andrew Wilson's one of those guys, but he did it, you know?

Yeah.

I

don't have much of a,

I could see if they have the preference for that, but I think acting as if those women are like a cautionary tale is kind of weird because I don't feel like it's a woman's fault if she gets like abandoned.

It doesn't really make any sense because a lot of that comes from the right.

And these are guys who literally shame women for being single issue voters and being pro-abortion.

And I'm like, isn't a single mother a woman who by your value system chose life over an abortion?

So why are you now penalizing her against that in the dating market?

Like, aren't you literally now incentivizing women to think like, go get an abortion.

Otherwise, you're going to become like a dating pariah, you know?

So I don't know.

I think it's inconsistent.

Yeah.

I don't know how I feel on that one too, honestly.

Would you date a single, I guess it's weird to think about because you've been in a relationship for a while.

Probably, I wouldn't, it wouldn't be my preference, like you said.

Yeah, but if I really liked the girl, I guess I would look past it.

I mean, my best friend just is about to get married to someone who had a kid from a previous relationship, and they're really happy together.

So, so I feel like it wouldn't be my preference to like date a guy who's already been married or have a kid.

Like, you know, if I was like swiping on Tinder, you know, obviously I wouldn't select for it, but if I met a guy and clicked, like, I'd probably look past it.

Yeah.

Are you on the apps, the dating apps?

I'm banned off Tinder and Bumble.

I don't know why.

I've been banned for like eight years.

Do they ban OF girls?

Is that how it works?

I don't know if they do.

They might, but this was like years before I ever started an OF.

Like I was banned in college.

I don't know why.

I think I was super into like nagging when I was in college.

Like where you're just mean to someone as a form of flirting.

Like I was just super aggressive flirtatiously when I was like 18.

So I feel like guys would just report me for being too mean, but it's like, that's my version of flirting, which is like bullying.

And I think, I don't know what I said.

I would get drunk and just respond to people.

And I thought I was like killing it.

Like I thought I was like a pickup artist and and then I would just get reported over and over.

So I'm banned there for life.

And then Hinge, I do use.

Hinge is fun, yeah.

I date.

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Cost like Instagram, which sounds like Instagram's pretty much a dating app, but there's

not for dating, but just like to work with someone, I'll check out their Instagram.

Yeah, I do agree with Red Pill on that, where they're like, yeah, Instagram is basically like a dating app at that point.

And I don't think it's like

when Red Pill says like they wouldn't want to date a girl who's still, while they're in a relationship, like posting provocative things online, I actually don't think that's controlling i'm like yeah i could see that because instagram's basically like having a tinder yeah you know what are you looking for when when a guy messages you like and you check out their profile like what are some some green flags

oh um

follower count

no not really um

i don't like vanity in guys so if a guy is like constantly trying to like look good and stuff i just feel like it's weird i went on a reality dating show over the summer actually oh yeah um i'm probably not supposed to to talk about it.

I saw a 90 NDA, but it's fine.

We don't have to drop the name of it.

Yeah.

As far as they know, I went on multiple.

So I went on one over the summer.

And I remember like asking my roommate on the show, I was like, what percent of you is here for like content?

And what percent of you is here for like dating?

Cause I went on solely for content.

And she was like, what do you mean?

Like, I'm here to find the love of my life.

And I'm like, you want to date a guy who wants to like be famous for being famous?

Like, I think it's already.

kind of a turnoff enough if a guy wants to be like a famous actor or musician, but at least there, it's like, maybe he's just really passionate about his craft.

Like maybe it's not just about the validation.

Like maybe he just really loves music and loves, you know, filmmaking and stuff.

Maybe.

But with a reality show, I'm like, these are guys who literally just want to get like a million followers and then be like a male socialite, which in my opinion is like a Harry Chowzy or whatever.

Yeah.

And in my opinion, that's like as unattractive as it gets.

So yeah, I would, I would look for a guy who doesn't have like a super vein.

So you want a low-key guy then, not like a social media influencer?

Yeah.

Unless their social media is like dedicated to some craft, like if they're like a comedian or something, you know, or they're like artistic in some way, then that's cool.

But otherwise, like, yeah, I, I just, really, really like down-to-earth guys.

What if they made way less money than you?

Yeah, I actually don't care at all.

Um, yeah, the main thing I like is if they're ambitious.

So I was seeing a guy at some point who like, this is such an extreme example.

And I feel like people are gonna be like, that doesn't count.

Like, I was seeing this guy who like holds this like world championship in a mixed martial art.

But for instance, like, you don't necessarily get get a ton of money from that, right?

But every day he's like working and training for more competitions.

And I thought that was like super hot and cool, but I made a lot more money than him just by the nature of my work.

And he didn't make much off it, but I still thought it was cool that he's like ambitious and a winner.

But for me, being a winner doesn't have to line up with like you make this amount of figures off it.

I could see that.

Yeah, as long as they have something to work towards.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm the same way in that regard.

Do they have to be vegan?

Cause I know you're vegan.

I'm vegetarian.

I need to, I need, I should go vegan, but, um,

no, they don't have to be.

But I will say with my ex-boyfriend of like four years, um,

I didn't tell him to go vegetarian, but my thing is, like, I've been vegetarian since I was really little to the point where I kind of have like a repulsion to meet.

So, let's say we just went out to dinner and he just had like a steak or something or a burger.

I would just ask him, like, oh, can you like brush your teeth and mouthwash before we like make out and stuff?

So, because that was so routine and he was so horny, he went vegetarian.

So he was vegetarian.

I don't know if he still is, but he was vegetarian for like, at that point, like all four years of a relationship.

But again, I never asked him and it wasn't like I expected him to, but he just did it for convenience.

I guess he got meat for you.

He really cared about you.

Or he was really like to make out.

I don't know.

What ended that one?

Was it your OF career?

No,

it ended before.

Out of respect to him, I don't want to get too much into it, but I would just say that that was my first ever relationship.

Like, I came straight out of an all-girl school and I had only kissed one person before I met him at that point.

So,

like,

he was like, I guess, like, my college sweetheart, but it was just like a very like youthful relationship.

Like, it was, it was very much like a puppy love.

I can say that, yeah.

Yeah.

All-girls school.

Wow.

That is, so your whole life, all-girls school or not, my whole life.

Um, just high school.

I went to this all-girls boarding school.

A lot of girls were like, I still wear my class ring.

A lot of girls were like gay for this day and stuff.

I just went to one of their weddings a few days ago.

But yeah, I really liked it.

I actually recommend it.

Really?

I do.

Yeah.

Cause after that, I went to a co-ed school and I feel like seeing the difference in how like girls who go to single sex schools versus co-ed schools behave, it's like night and day.

Like I feel like when you go to a single sex school, you can really focus.

on your accomplish accomplishments because your sole sense of validation comes from like academic achievements versus i feel like when you go to a public school your sense of being popular comes from like how hot you are like what type of guy you're dating and stuff.

Versus our school obviously wasn't like that.

So it's like the cool people were the ones who are doing like stem cell research and like Africa and stuff.

And I feel like that's a way better validation system while you're a developing adolescent than a public school.

I've never heard that argument, but you know what?

I actually agree with that.

If you have a daughter, you should send her to single sex school.

I wonder if it's the same mindset with all male schools.

I feel like they just end up fucking each other honestly.

I feel like they, they just, they'll, yeah.

I don't know if men can turn off their horniness in the same way.

I mean, you're not wrong.

In prison, you see it.

Exactly.

So, yeah.

Jeez.

Yeah.

This is very interesting stuff.

I'm not talking too fast, by the way.

You could tell me.

No, no, no, you're good.

So being, being Indian, are you full Indian?

I'm also Saudi.

Saudi.

Okay.

But how did that community react to the OF stuff?

Because that's like, cause I'm half Asian.

I could kind of relate to that.

Oh,

I definitely had some girls from my Masjid like unfollow me who I was really good friends with, which is fine.

Like maybe they feel like they're complicit in sinning sinning and like it's haram if they follow me, which is totally fine.

That community in general, I don't know, I never clicked a ton with people in the masjid because even way before OF, because my main thing is going to sound ironic considering how judgmental I probably come off, I really don't like judgmental people.

Like if you're hanging out with like, not all Muslim girls are like this, but maybe just the ones I grew up with.

I remember being like 14 and being at the masjid with a few of my like friends there and they were talking about how their American neighbor who's 30 years old and married is a slut because she's having sex with her husband to try to get pregnant.

And I was like, Why is that slutty?

And they were like, Cause she's having sex.

I'm like, She's married and trying to have a baby.

Like, what do you think your parents did?

And she was like, Muslim women don't have sex to get pregnant.

Like, you're a pervert.

This girl is 14.

And I'm like, What are you talking about?

I was like, Yes, your parents had sex to have you.

And they were like, You need to go to an insane asylum.

Like, you don't know what you're saying.

And I was like, Bro, like, ask your older sister.

And they came back the next week and they were like, yeah.

So I talked to my sister and like, my parents did have sex.

Yes, but they, it was halal.

Like they cut a hole in my mom's jeans.

So like she didn't get naked or anything.

And I was like, I don't even believe that.

But I don't know.

I think that gives you good insight into like, one, a lot of the ignorance in these like.

super religious communities and then two like the type of judgment that they like wittingly pass on to other people to just call this 30 year old married woman a slut you know with no basis for it and then yeah you'll just be hanging out sometimes with these like traditional not necessarily just Muslim girls, could be Christian, I guess.

And they'll just be like judging American girls for like the way they're dressing and stuff.

I just feel like that's a very like jaded way to live life, you know?

Yeah, I saw a lot of slut shaming in high school and college.

I went to public school and like if a girl slept with like maybe one or two guys, they would get called out the next day.

Even one?

Or maybe like two or three, but yeah, two or three within a year, they would get called out for sure.

Called out in what way?

Like, what does that look like?

Like, guys would just talk shit.

Like, oh, that girl's a slut.

She sleeps around.

Oh,

that's interesting yeah that's pretty common did you see the show adolescence i heard of it i didn't see the other they kind of like touch on stuff like that i was just curious if you thought it was realistic or not but um that's interesting did girls get like bullied for it was more like in private guys would just talk to each other in private but the private would become public because you know people gossip and stuff so it would get around quick and this was like kind of when social media was coming out now they get bullied on it online which is it spreads even faster there was that one viral one recently where the girl got called a slut on like yikiak.

I don't know if you saw this.

No, what happened?

She what is yik yak?

It's like a nap.

It used to be popping in college, but I don't know if it's still around.

Oh, I know.

But either way, she got called a slut.

It eventually got to like ESPN and like huge podcasts and these podcasts were calling her out for it.

And then now she's suing the podcast and barstool.

Oh,

was this something about like sleeping with

Sleeping with a coach or something?

I don't remember the exact details, but I feel like I might have saw, was it some blonde girl?

Yeah, a blonde girl.

I might have seen something pop up about it crazy though she's suing the podcast that like was talking about it wait espn podcast talked about some random high school girl for sleeping with college college girl for sleeping with her coach some like that yeah

that was like espn newsworthy is she like a famous athlete no she was a normal college student

we got to find the exact details but Either way, just slut shaming is like pretty normal these days.

That's so interesting.

Yeah, I wouldn't want to be a girl in today's digital era you got to move carefully yeah or you could just fully commit i mean i don't i wouldn't i don't recommend girls to only fans but i do think like that's also why of pisses some guys off it's because i feel like they like when girls are coy and don't want to be called a slut because then it's more hard like

it's more sadistic if you call her a slut versus if you're like very open about it I feel like it takes away the bounty.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

I can see that.

So you go all in on your stuff.

You do full on.

Mine's not that extreme at this point in time maybe in the future but that's how it starts it's always like a little nipple picture and then it evolves yeah maybe i did it partly as like i guess like i mean i love the money but partly as like a social experiment i guess because i was like curious about it and now it's like a great way to just kind of get attention and get on these shows you know what i mean as much as they hate of girls it's like would half of them be platforming me if i didn't have that label you know what's what do you think your end goal is with this social media stuff like do you want to have your own show or um i don't know if i want to have my own podcast like right now i've been working a lot on my youtube channel like in the fall and stuff and i've been growing it which is like a totally different type of content like that's kind of like skits and comedy and stuff it's like all scripted um

and and then in like the future future i'd like to just like screenwrite a show and stuff i don't really have a ton of interest in like doing my own podcast necessarily but yeah I've always been interested in like creative writing and you know I'm writing like a book of essays right now about like feminism just like boring boring stuff.

And then

the fake screenwriter show.

Yeah.

Okay.

Who do you want to debate next?

Myron?

Um, yeah, he, what was it?

He challenged like me and my friend Jasmine to like a 2v2 with Andrew Wilson like last year.

He's like, it's time to pack up these clout chasing 304s, like once and for all, like me and Andrew Wilson versus Far and Jasmine.

Like Fresh is going to moderate.

And then everyone at the top column was like, Fresh moderating.

Like, I got to see that.

And we were like, yeah, we're in.

And like, he just dodges it.

Like, he like replies to half my tweets to shitting on me.

But I'm yeah, super open to debating like him or Andrew Wilson.

I like flew out to Santa Barbara to debate Andrew Wilson one-on-one.

And he canceled like last minute.

Like after I was already in Santa Barbara, he said his wife was sick and stuff.

But I've been like waiting for that reschedule.

I'm very open to debate anyone.

Like, do I think I'm going to win?

Not always, but I, I don't really have a fear of like looking stupid or anything, but I feel like a lot of these people do.

Well, yeah, a lot of girls do because their most viral clips are trying to portray portray a woman that way.

Yeah, that's true.

But also the guys, I feel like the guys, because a lot of these guys are hated, I feel like there's more of a bounty for them to look stupid.

So I also feel like they're more scared sometimes of taking debates than the girls.

Interesting.

Because I feel like they expect the girls, especially girls who do OF, to look stupid.

So if I even look like slightly not stupid, it's kind of a win already.

I didn't know the guys are getting hate like that, too.

Yeah, I mean if they get even shit on like a little bit by a girl, I feel like it'll get go viral because so many women like hate, you know, myron and brian and stuff yeah does the hate ever get to you or you're kind of immune at this point um

when i first started none of the podcast stuff like hate ever gets to me when i first started my tick tock it blew up really quickly and i was averaging like 10 million views a day damn but the thing is tick tock i don't know if you're on tick tock you probably are tick tock doesn't pay no it pays like a couple thousand a month yeah so before i started taking sponsorships it's like I was getting like 10 million views a day just to have like TikTok also doesn't protect IP like they say like yeah we don't protect IP the same way like we don't patent like choreography and you can like copy someone's dance.

So you're pretty much having people just rip off your videos, repost them all the time, copy your scripts verbatim, shit on you all the time, shit on you to dams for like basically no reward in the beginning.

So I'm like, okay, I gained all this face recognition, but like, what's the point?

So there I'd get like a little bit anxious about the hate because I was like, what's the point of doing this?

Now that I've been able to like cement myself more in the space and like now that I have the OnlyFans, I think now that I have like that like bank account and there is always that instant ROI, it justifies the hate more.

Otherwise, it's like, I feel like I'm working like a customer service job where I'm getting shitted on all day for free.

And I'm just like, what's the point?

But once you start getting that like money from it, it's like, okay, now this is an actual job and I can, you know, manage my expectations.

My emotions are on the cons more.

They call it FU money for a reason.

Once you got that, I mean,

people can talk whatever they want.

Do you have a million in the bank?

Then why am I listening to you?

Yeah.

Also, a lot of the comments are just stupid and funny.

Like they just

they just don't even make any sense they're just like like i post them like they're kind of funny reddit comments could be more mean because they'll write essays and they'll try to dissect everything about you and like what they think your childhood was like and those are a doozy because even if they're like completely off base it's like you read a whole essay about it and you start to think this is true yeah and stuff but um people are making reddit threads about you Yeah, all the time.

They'll talk about the way my glasses look on my face,

different frames they think I should try.

What?

How I should increase my my tit size and just try to like rhyme a Khalifa's coattails.

And I don't even know.

That's not that offensive and stuff.

I don't go on Reddit anymore or anything, but

yeah.

I'd say at this point, like I'm immune to the hate.

Yeah.

I use Reddit for restaurant recommendations.

Oh, really?

It's good for that.

Yeah.

I've never tried that.

Yeah, try it out.

Okay.

It's better than like Yelp and stuff.

Yelp's decent, yeah.

But Yelp, you could pay to get to the top.

So it's like pay to play.

Oh, okay.

Reddit's just like honest.

Like the good thing about Reddit is people are just honest because you're all anonymous.

Kind of like being an anonymous account on Twitter, I guess.

I'll try that I just

I'm like 15 pounds underweight but I did blood work this week and I have extremely high cholesterol despite that and I'm prone to like heart disease because every day all I eat is like I have one meal a day I have like Red Bulls and coffee for the first half of the day and then the second half of the day I order an impossible whopper meal from Burger King with like fries and Coke which are terrible for you They are.

Well, I thought because I bought into fat phobia and I was like, I'm not going to get like heart disease.

Like I'm underweight.

But no, I'm like at risk now for like yeah, yeah, you could be skinny and super unhealthy.

You can get like a heart attack.

I didn't know that.

Yeah.

I had visceral fat because I'm pretty skinny too.

And I had terrible health.

Yeah.

So I'm trying to clean up my diet.

So I should try out the restaurant stuff.

But yeah.

I would cut out impossible meat in general.

There's seed oils in it.

I thought it was healthy because also the thing is.

I'm very malnourished because of the vegetarianism.

So I was like, okay, at least I can get protein this way.

But no, I think it's definitely doing more harm than good.

You might have to eat some meat.

I didn't know about that.

But yeah.

I mean, I should ask Jake Shields about it because he's a vegetarian.

That's true.

Whatever he's doing is, you could admit he's right on that aspect.

He gives me hope because everyone's like, you're not going to fix your health being vegetarian.

I'm like, oh, well, this like meat head is like killing it.

Well, it's harder, but it's possible.

Like, there's a guy named Brian Johnson.

I don't know if you've seen him.

Is he vegan?

Vegan or vegetarian, but he's the pale, white old guy that's trying to live forever.

He's the one who takes like 50 pills a day.

Yeah, yeah, that guy.

But he's super healthy and he's vegetarian, I believe.

Oh, okay.

You might have to follow his recipes.

But he doesn't like look like a glowing picture of hell.

Like I know that's superficial, but like he looks like, he looks like the living dead.

So I don't know if I would trust him.

People have done a side-by-side with him in Voldemort.

Oh, that's really funny.

Yeah.

Have you had him on?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

I've had him on, and we just talked about erections because he measures how long he's hard at night, how many hours he's hard at night.

So we talked about that and just died.

He uses that as a metric for longevity or just

how hard you, like how long you have a boner every night.

How long does he average?

i think two hours and 20 minutes that's impressive right for his age yeah it's impressive no even wait you're even if he was young uh when you get older it goes down so like you're not hard as long but you're saying like the average young guy could stay hard for two and a half hours like throughout the night yeah so you'll get hard for like 20 30 minutes and then oh okay i thought you meant no no that'd be way too long in one session oh my god that would hurt But he actually just went to India and the air pollution was so bad.

I don't know if you saw this.

No, I didn't.

He was supposed to speak at an event when the air pollution was so bad, he left.

Oh, because of his health and stuff.

Like he doesn't leave his house.

That's so funny that he just left.

I feel like he could have accounted for that and like.

Yeah, he brought a mask and everything, but he's at the point now where if the sun rays are too strong, he won't leave the house in LA.

So he'll just stay inside.

Can we make Beth on how long he's going to live?

How old is he right now?

I think he's 50 something right now.

Okay.

And he like...

Do you think he'll hit 100?

I think he's biologically 100.

Like, I think he's not not young.

Like, he doesn't look young.

His skin looks like it's going to tear any second, honestly.

I think he's going to die at like 60.

Probably if you're taking 50 pills a day, like you're going to have liver damage, right?

Yeah.

I mean,

you should, but he's measuring his liver often and there's nothing yet.

But who knows?

Who knows?

Shout out to him.

Do you believe him about his erection stats?

Yeah, you can't lie about it because it's hooked up to like an actual device.

Oh, really?

Yeah, there's a a device that he uses.

That's so funny.

Yeah.

Do you feel pressured to get like cosmetic procedures on your body to maintain the beauty as you get older?

Um,

I just lived in Miami the past few years, and this sounds mean, but I feel like there have been moments, I haven't gotten any work done, like Botox, filler, or anything.

Um, mostly out of just stinginess.

Like, honestly, I'm just like, this feels like a waste of money.

Like, you spend a thousand dollars on filler and you have to get it, get it in again, like three months later.

But also, being in miami i just feel like a lot of it doesn't look good

like i've considered doing things like uh before i went on my reality show i was actually gonna get like injections under my eyes because i felt like my eyes were too hollow and i thought that like if i got like they feel sunk because i'm so skinny like they feel sunken in so i wanted to look more like lively and stuff so i was gonna do that um but then i think for one of the procedures they were gonna do for me at the med spa they were like oh by the way like the risk of blindness for this is like one percent and then i was like oh i'm out.

And like, in theory, that doesn't sound like a lot.

But for how much I care about it, that's a lot.

You know what I mean?

Like, I don't want to flip 100 pennies.

And then, you know, for me, it wasn't worth it at all.

But yeah, being in Miami, I just think a lot of it doesn't look good.

Like you get open rhinoplasty as a woman.

And then as you age, it actually sinks into your face.

So it ends up looking kind of like Voldemorty.

So.

Honestly, me being anti-plastic surgery, it's not from like an feminist stance.

It's more from a actually superficial stance.

And I'm like, I do think think it ages you worse.

I might get veneers or something.

Those are bad for you too.

Oh, are they?

Yeah.

We could talk about it off camera, but yeah.

Okay.

You've done it?

No, I just learned a lot about it.

I've had a lot of dentists on the show.

That's good to know because I was going to go to Turkey because my friend recommended it.

We'll just look into like the side effects of it.

I mean, I know people that have gotten it.

And like, it just eroded their gum health and stuff, basically.

Because your dental health, it says a lot about your body.

Yeah.

Like each tooth is tied to an organ in your body.

So like if you have a cavity in a certain tooth, that means your organ is suffering too.

That's good to know because I never could afford braces growing up or anything.

And I have like a misaligned tooth.

And I feel like now if I get braces, people are going to accuse me of pedo baiting because I do OnlyFans, but I don't want to pedoto baiting.

Yeah.

And I don't have the discipline for Invisalign.

So I was like, okay, I could get the braces and then get accused of pedo baiting for the next four years.

Cause if I got braces, I would not open my mouth on OnlyFans.

Like I would not smile.

I wouldn't open my mouth on the podcast.

I'd be talking like this with my teeth closed.

Oh, because you're just like, I had like

they look terrible.

Let's be honest.

Yeah, especially with like my glasses.

Yeah, I would just look at it.

Like as a kid, it's whatever.

You're a kid, but we're like pushing 30 now.

I mean, oh, you had it as a kid or adult?

I had it as a kid.

I'm just saying, like, braces as an adult is like, it's weird.

And I feel like I already look a bit young.

So I just feel like it would be a weird look being on OF and, you know,

having my tits out with brace.

Like, I don't know.

I just think it'd be

possibly unethical.

So I was going to do veneers, but now you're, maybe you've convinced me against it.

So maybe I'll do Invisalign.

I might do Invisalign too.

Yeah, that one's pretty natural.

Anything natural, I like.

I like natural beauty personally.

It just ages better.

Yeah, I agree.

A lot of those girls who get those facelifts now, they do look pretty good now.

Like people see like Lindsey Lohan and they'll do like, you know what I'm talking about?

The like tissue facelifts and stuff.

And they look pretty realistic.

Yeah.

I guess if you're an actor, it makes sense.

You got to maintain your beauty to make money.

That's like the one exception I'll make and maybe OF and stuff like that.

But just casually getting it, I feel like that's not the move.

You know, people are really against things like filters and stuff, and I'm like, I think it's way more

not ethical.

I think it's better to just not get work done and then, like, if you want, just filter the fuck out of yourself.

Like, who cares?

If guys are going to jerk off to it, like, go for it.

But, like, don't actually waste your money for just an image for online.

For movies, it's different because you have less control over your image.

But if you're doing online work, it's like, who cares?

What's the most a fan has paid you?

Oh,

I don't know, actually.

Is it in the thousands?

Yeah, for sure.

I don't have like, I should go through and see like how much each person has paid.

I don't know.

You don't have a sugar daddy or like a whale, they call them, right?

I have some whales.

Yeah.

I put like little whale emojis next to them for sure.

And then if people always ask me, like, would you ever date a sub?

And I'm like, honestly, yeah.

And they're like, you're lying.

I'm like, no, if I have a cute sub, like, I'll put a little like hard eye emoji next to them.

They could be using a fake picture or something, but sometimes I'm like, oh, this guy's really cute.

Yeah.

What's a sub?

Like a subscriber.

I don't only fancy.

Oh, I thought you meant like a a submissive submissive okay oh no that's not my thing personally yeah i don't like that too as a guy as a guy at least you know a submissive girl you mean like a submissive guy like that's weird to me

like a dominatrix like woman i couldn't date that even if you even if it was just like sexually no okay that makes sense yeah i'm not into that but i know guys are Yeah, a lot of like high-profile guys are into it because they like to like give up control.

I heard that.

Yeah, I watched the show called Suits and that was common with the lower.

Oh, really?

yeah because they dominate during the day so much yeah in work

give up control yeah that's interesting to me it is interesting i haven't seen that show it's fiction right yeah but it's kind of realistic suits is a good show that's one with megan markle right yeah she's married to the prince now or whatever yeah yeah do you think um Ben Shapiro thought she was lying when she was like, yeah, they were worried about how dark me and Harry's baby was going to be.

A lot of conservatives were like, that's bullshit.

Really?

That doesn't seem realistic.

I don't know.

I personally, I'm not the biggest Ben Shapiro fan.

Yeah.

To be honest, even though I'm on the right.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Well, yeah, a lot of people just didn't believe her, which is why I'm kind of glad.

Well, not glad.

I feel like a silver lining of all this.

Like, I don't know if you're on Twitter.

I'm obsessed with Twitter.

I use it periodically because it's so toxic.

If I'm on there all day, I just feel like shit.

So I'm on there all day and I feel like shit.

It's my only social.

Like, I don't scroll TikTok or any of these other apps.

It's so negative.

Like, how do you deal with that all day?

It's just people hating literally all day.

I think it's like funny.

I'll open up and it's like a Jake Shields tweet about like Holocaust denial.

It's like a good conversation.

So I'll probably sing next to someone and be like, look at this, and just like make fun of him.

Yeah.

But

yeah, what was I going to say?

Yeah.

A silver lining of all this like alt-right bullshit is that like, I feel like a lot of conservatives pretended for a long time that like, you know, racism's over.

Like we, I don't see color.

We live in like a post-racial society.

And like no way anyone said that to Megan Markle.

But now you go online and so many conservatives only see things through the lens of race.

So I feel like it's kind of, it showed the underbelly a little bit.

And now it's good because they can't like deny as much like the underbelly of their politics.

I could see that.

Yeah.

That makes sense.

Especially with like the Indian racism stuff.

Like

I feel like that one is such a smoking gun because with every other group that they shitted on, they had like this rationale for it.

So for like, why they don't want like people south of the border in the country, they would say it's because of things like Lake and Riley and like fentanyl and cartels and stuff.

And then with like black people, they said like, oh, we're not anti-black.

we're anti-black culture because of hip hop and crime and like BLM riots and stuff like that.

And then with Asians, sometimes it was like they, you know, COVID and stuff like that, versus now they're just shitting on Indians, which I just think is hilarious because not to be like an Indian supremacist, but it's like Indians have like the least amount of criminal records in this country, the most amount of degrees.

They have the most, the highest number of like unicorn startups, like startups valued at over a billion dollars.

They author the most amount of scientific reports.

So I feel like this is just the smoking gun that like a lot of these conservatives who shit on these races, it's not for a specific reason.

It's because they're just racist.

And I feel like a lot of maybe, I don't know if you can relate to this, I feel like a lot of Asians and Indians kind of did

get off the idea of being like a model minority.

And, you know, because conservatives would like prop them up of being like, no, we're not racist.

Like these races are doing well.

So I feel like the fact that they're now finally turning on Indians.

who do like nothing wrong in this country, like literally, like, again, commit basically no crime, basically zero violent crime in this country.

And they're shitting on them and saying they don't want Indians in this country that they're cockroaches and stuff I hope is enough of like uh enough of an impetus for like Indians to knock it off on being like you know a pick me for concern for these racists and stuff you know yeah that's a weird group to hate on they just say they smell bad and stuff right nothing like

yeah or they'll show videos again of like people going to India and they'll it'll be like you know the way they like gawk at like white girls and stuff.

But it's again, yeah, obviously there's a lot of violent crime in India, but the actual Indian Americans in this country commit zero.

So it's like, why are we talking about, you know, India?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's a weird one.

But like I said, they're just going to hate on whatever, especially on Twitter.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah.

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