How AI Is Revolutionizing Music Creation | Bonnie X Clyde DSH #1174

I mean during our shows we definitely play with them.

We use I get pretty scared I'm not gonna lie.

Just put that put that I mean some of them are wild.

There was one time I like jumped on top of a crowd at a festival and I never did it again.

Oh you crowd surfed?

Yeah well they didn't they didn't carry me up the whole way.

Ooh.

Yeah.

Damn.

I didn't get too hurt but it was like okay I won't be doing this again.

All right guys Bonnie X Clyde Paige and Danielle here today.

Thanks for coming coming on, guys.

Thanks for having us.

Yeah, I'm excited to see you guys play.

Do you guys play often?

We used to play a lot more.

I would say in the last couple months, we haven't been playing as crazy, but we used to host a game.

We lived in the same house with like a lot of producers and musicians, and we used to host a game in Los Angeles every Tuesday.

I think it was when we were touring starting like 2017 through 2019.

We were traveling around the country in like St.

Louis and and Boston and playing these places where there'd be casinos and then we'd stay and play.

And that led into when COVID happened, where we had a lot of time.

And we decided to actually get a poker table for our house and just play with the friends.

But that led to us like Tuesdays and Thursdays for like 12 hours, just buying and nothing crazy.

You know,

$200 buy-ins with a pound of wheat on the table kind of thing.

And just going around playing for hours and hours.

And that's how we really fell in love with the game.

And there have even been periods recently in the last two years where I started, I went on like a PLO binge.

If you guys know about PLO.

That's the

five-hand card or whatever?

Four cards.

I prefer four-card PLO rather than five-card.

The math is kind of harder.

Interesting.

Why is it harder?

One more card.

And also, it's not even.

Like when you're thinking about two cards, you're just kind of like doubling, halving.

Oh, okay.

Where there's that fifth card, it kind of leads to...

I can't even understand when I see clips of the five card.

I don't understand what's going on yeah just more more variants we call it uh in the poker room we call it poker bingo because it's you could have the nuts on the turn and then all of a sudden on the river you're so far behind but you're already so committed with your stack or most likely all in at that point damn yeah i like the basic two two card personally what about you me too yeah it's simple it's nice and easy i'm definitely not a PLO girl yeah PLO is a whole nother game you like PLO more though you said yeah I just I like dopamine and that really invokes that you're a dopamine junkie yeah definitely.

Okay, that makes sense with your

profession, right?

Yeah, that makes sense.

You just chase louder and bigger crowds every weekend, yeah.

You get fueled off that energy, right?

Definitely.

What's the biggest crowd you guys have done?

Probably 30,000 people.

It would be like EDC

Vegas.

Vegas, or

we played a really sick crowd, EDC Mexico.

Yeah, EDC Mexico.

I didn't know they had Mexico.

Yeah, pretty big.

That was pretty electric.

30,000 people.

EDC Vegas, I think, was the biggest, though.

Yeah, 2019, EDC Vegas.

Maybe EDC Orlando.

Oh, yeah.

yeah, EDC Orlando two years ago.

Electric Zoo was pretty sick, too.

That was pretty up there, probably 20,000.

Holy crap.

And do you change your set based off the crowd size or is it the same kind of vibe every time?

We do play music festival sets, I think, differently than club sets.

Okay.

Not necessarily based on the crowd size, but

more like the stage and how we're performing with the stage.

Because I sing on all of our sets.

So

whether there's a full stage or just a booth, it kind of changes our setup.

I didn't know you sang during them that's not common in EDM, right?

I don't know

less common, yeah,

maybe like under five percent or even less

But it also depends on the stage format You know, we really like if there's a catwalk or a front stage and things of that nature rather than just standing up on the DJ booth and also some festivals are more electronic rave oriented festivals versus when we played Lollapalooza, like they want to hear you sing.

They you know, the bigger stage,

yeah.

The crowd's there and hearing more people singing, so the live performance is more palatable.

Yeah, I went to Lollapalooza once.

I thought I was going to die.

Why?

Let's just say I bought something from some random guy, came out of a sock, and yeah, almost died.

Yeah, always know your source, guys.

Yeah, that was a sketchy little,

I don't even know what to call that experience.

Yeah, a bad trip.

Yeah, shout out to Lollapalooza, though.

Definitely.

A lot of people have a really great festival.

Yeah, that was a fun one.

I've been to firefly is that what it's called yeah firefly is great firefly yeah i haven't been to festivals in a while are they still pretty popping these days absolutely yeah yeah i feel like they're getting more diversified on who they're booking and people are getting more creative okay on how they're formatting the festival not just putting a stage but creating art installations or experience-based uh things within going from stage to stage that just you know, increases the joy of the festival goer.

I think new ones keep coming up, too.

Right.

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Like a full experience.

Absolutely.

Oh, yeah.

That's cool.

Yeah, I mean, Insomniac Events like really knows how to throw festivals because it's not just about putting a stage up.

Like they have take you through a whole experience.

They have

so many different festivals based on like whether it's Halloween or

I mean, EDC Vegas is pretty Vegas oriented.

Yeah, they make it less about the artist and more about the headliner.

And they say the headliner is the attendees.

Ultimately, it's about

them.

So they bring in all the people, right?

I mean, the people are the headliners.

People are the headliners.

Like about the experience they're going to have.

That's an interesting thought.

So it's centric around them.

Okay.

And do you like that vibe more?

I like, I just like variation in my experience in general.

I think just doing that would be boring and just doing where everybody's really there for the songwriting or the singing element, just diversification, more variance.

Yeah, I think I get just as much joy when we perform a festival to a lot of people where we're experiencing the whole festival and playing to larger crowds.

It's the same as like playing to a smaller room where everyone in the room is singing along to to all your music and it's like a sweatier environment.

Yeah, like 500 people in a club where people are closer.

Like I can have just as much fun playing that as

the 30,000 crowd.

Sometimes more fun.

Sometimes more fun, yeah.

Because you really get to sometimes people

on stage and see their reaction to your songs more.

Where when you're on one of those big stages and there's 30,000, you're not really connecting with.

And like when you're looking at people, you can't really like see their soul in their eyes.

And when you're at a club and they're right there, you can see how much fun they're really having.

Your soul.

You guys are a little spiritual.

I love it.

I love spirituality, actually.

Big on psychedelics, big on like, I've done past life therapy.

I've done all that stuff.

I've done breiki healing.

That is so cool.

Yeah, it's dope.

I like that.

Do you guys do any of that stuff too?

Yeah.

I believe I

lived a past life.

I live my life through the lens of hermetics.

Hermetics.

Hermetics.

And the main principle of hermetics is mentalism.

Basically, the external universe is a reflection of the internal self.

So I focus a lot on maintaining

good framing no matter what energy I'm interacting with on this field.

I love that.

So you're big on energies.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I feel that with certain people I meet.

It's like the first thing I notice now.

Like, how do I feel?

Yeah.

And if they don't make you feel good or they make you feel heavy or, you know, misalign you with yourself, then you probably should interact with that energy.

Absolutely.

Yeah, before they even talk, you can feel it.

If you really pay attention.

Well, if you have that sensitivity, and the more you pick up and focus on perceiving these forces, the more you'll be able to navigate the world towards weightlessness.

Absolutely.

Man, we're getting deep here.

I love it.

But no, having 1200 episodes, I've gotten like kind of good at it, I guess.

Just like picking up on energies and stuff.

I used to suck.

Like I used to get scammed.

I used to get like mistaken.

God helps with one of the most important emotions, which is definitely empathy.

Yeah, I've had to develop that, to be honest.

Something I lacked growing up.

Feel that?

You know?

I don't know if it's like I have autism and stuff, but I don't know what it was, trauma, but I've had to definitely work on like empathy and emotion stuff.

Well, yeah, it's about working inward first and seeing yourself.

And once you can really see yourself, take accountability for yourself, then you can really see it in others.

I think a lot of people don't realize you can always work on it.

Yeah, you can.

A lot of people think there's a lot of people.

I mean, look at Elon Musk.

Like, he has definitely worked on it.

You see his past interviews and you see him now.

It's like a totally different person.

Yeah.

It's impressive.

Now, I know you guys met in high school.

So how long have you been at this thing, I guess?

Was it from high school?

So actually in high school, we were in the same friend group.

And in high school, I had always wanted to be a singer and was writing music in the form that I was in high school while he was a DJ.

And we didn't actually come together until our second to last year in college.

And we were at two different colleges.

We were on Skype every single night.

It all Skype.

Yeah.

I caught the tail end of Skype.

They Skype and Uvu and stuff.

Yeah.

We actually,

it wasn't Skype, but there was another program we used where we could control each other's mouses from I was in Virginia.

Something along those lines.

Or maybe we'd use Skype and then I would share my screen and she would use the other thing to do her mouse on the Ableton session, kind of just developing whatever.

That was like the seat of everything.

It wasn't like we had Bonnie and Clyde at that point.

We had a brand in our mind.

It was called Vibrato, which is like the movement of a pitch really fast.

Because I was a singer and i i really liked it we just thought that was cool but i didn't really once the end of college came around but we were making music under it and i was we were showing our friends and stuff versus like the project that i was working on and i just saw a lot more people like oh this is cool better reaction and once uh the end of college came around we were like what are we going to do what are we going to call it what can we really put our you know put our flag in put our heart into and we both really believed in the music that we were making and like us as a unit But it wasn't until the end of college that we named ourselves.

And I think it was on my graduation day, I showed my dad our business plan.

And I was like, I'm moving.

And I moved to Miami and we started our project in Miami.

Yeah, we were living $500 a month in the hood of Miami.

I'm sorry.

Sounds fun.

Yeah, I mean, a southwest one.

It was a great ride.

I went to the University of Miami.

So like, it was like basically where the broke college kids lived on the other side, south side of.

the campus and I'll never forget we lived with

he was a pot dealer and then three doors down was a crack house.

I swear we woke up one morning and it was like a music video with the step team and the

ATVs and the barbecue truck and the whole thing.

And even like within that period, like guys came up on our back porch with guns and robbed all our friends and all that stuff.

It was really wild experience.

Yeah, it was wild there.

And we were, we had one gig once a week, $500 a week up in Fort Lauderdale or Palm Beach.

It was called Lux.

And so, you know, making $2K a month between the two of us, just grinding it out until we made this one song called Rise Above.

And we cold DM'd it to

a kid who owned Trap Nation.

And he responded and said, yo, we're going to upload this.

He uploaded it.

It got like a million streams or a million hits in the first couple of weeks.

Wow.

And that led to like our first manager and the first wave of momentum.

And then we went on our first tour all around Florida.

And from there, it was kind of, things just kept going up.

And we just kept continuing to make music.

Got a deal with Insomniac and Interscope had a record label together at the time.

Nice.

And we had this song called Bass Jam that was maybe three or four months later, and it ended up going number one on U.S.

Dance Radio.

And that just, then all of a sudden, it was just off to the races from there.

Wow.

Yeah.

Cause once you get a number one song, it's over, right?

Like, you just say it's over, but it gives you a nice, nice year, year and a half to

it brings a lot of people to your shows that know your music and want to keep hearing more.

Wow.

So, you guys worked at a distance at first.

Yeah, our first year we were making music across Skype.

But we never released any of that music.

That was just the

like figuring out how we worked together, what the vision was for the music, and you know, just keeping the connection.

That's impressive.

And what a name, too, Bonnie Clive.

That's actually the old fairy tale, right?

It was the bank robbers.

Or it was a real story, but yeah, in the 40s, they are 40s.

At the time when we first started making music, too, we made a lot more bass heavy music and them being bank robbers and had this like edge to them, it made sense for us.

And then the name just started

kind of taking off because there aren't many guy-girl duos in the scene, especially ones that also have like a singer that goes out and performs.

Yeah, I can't think of any.

I would say the other one that's like pretty big is like Sophie Tucker.

Okay.

Yeah, they do the same kind of thing where they have a singer.

But they're really.

different flavor with the sound.

Different flavor.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That makes sense.

But there aren't a lot.

And that's definitely been a huge thing going for us over the years.

It's just

there really aren't a lot of acts.

A lot of DJs will bring out other singers to perform the songs they have with them, but they're not a singer.

Yeah.

Like consistently performing as a singer.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Have you had to adopt the music, the style of the music over the years?

Definitely.

Yeah, so we started off doing bass.

And that was hot at the time.

Future bass.

trap music, a lot of banging our head around.

And then we just realized I

love songwriting and I really love writing pop music.

And

our direction just went more house.

And now we're definitely in the house lane.

And we love writing house music and more floor to the floor, stuff that's going to make people dance and sing along.

It's also more palatable for the international market.

And as we kind of saw more and came to more awareness around what the implications of the sound that we were in,

where it would kind of limit us in a way, where we want to have a more expanded, you know, touring circuit.

And we also, there's this general trend on when you're younger, like 18 to 21, 24, that the faster tempo music resonates with those people more.

That's not for everybody.

I'm saying generally speaking.

The faster tempo resonates with younger people because they have more energy to move and go crazy for longer durations of time.

But even as we got older, our preference on tempo slowed down, slowed down.

So more in the 120s, just kind of dancing and these kind of things because you can do that for longer durations of times.

And you even see right now, there's a genre called Afro House, which is like a very piano-based, kind of like tribal percussion-oriented thing, but it's very palatable.

So you can party on it for 12 hours.

Geez.

So if you're, because it's, it's just enough energy that it keeps you moving, but not enough energy that it overstimulates you right yeah uh so kind of finding that the balance between that and where we were for where you know just feels right for us wherever we are in our energy right now also we were just organically making more songs that had fully written material where in the past I mean, we played a lot of rooms that people show up just to bang their head to the bass.

And I'm telling you, I've sung in front of their faces and they're looking at me like, please stop saying.

It'd be like a a rock show where people just want to mosh.

What?

Like the comparable audience to bass music and rock and wanting to mosh, they just want to bang their mosh pits you're talking about.

Or there'd be like the snobs at the front rail just like looking at me singing.

Like, please stop.

Waiting for you to play a faster song.

Waiting for the bass.

So kind of seeing the fans transfer and also grow with us.

But I also feel like the market in general.

People are becoming more palatable to loving more genres of music and not being such a

stickler on what the genre is.

So that's been cool as well.

Have you guys ever been in a mosh pit?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

You like getting in there?

I mean, during our shows, we definitely created them.

I get pretty scared.

I'm not going to lie.

Just put that, put that, I mean, some of them are wild.

There was one time I like jumped on top of a crowd at a festival and I never did it again.

Oh, you crowd surfed?

Yeah.

Well, they didn't carry me up the whole way.

Oh.

Yeah.

Damn.

I didn't get too hurt, but it was like, okay, I won't be doing this again.

The whole moshpit at a dance music oriented thing is there's this underlying culture around plur, which is peace, love, unity, respect.

So, if someone gets down or falls within the pits at these festivals, they're getting picked up, and people are very, it's more of a loving environment and not like let me thrash.

And, like, I've seen the rock and Punk shows where people are literally punching each other in the face and swinging their hands.

That's my rap shows, too.

That's the ones I'm talking about.

Rap shows are a lot different.

Yeah, I haven't been to an EDM

event, but I've been to the rap ones, and the mosh pits are actually sketchy.

Yeah, there's I haven't seen a single fight on one of our shows.

Wow, that's actually insane.

No, base stages, even at like EDM festivals, uh, although they go hard in mosh pits, they are very kind compared to like a mosh pit at a rap show.

Like, I wouldn't go near that.

Well, it's the energy of the artist, you know, it's what they're putting out into the world.

And if you're putting out from a place of love and light, then you're going to get that back with the people that are gravitating towards you versus maybe some of the hip-hop artists are talking about certain themes that gravitate people that are on some darker energy that lead to that kind of tension.

And also what they're consuming, there's people consuming different chemicals compared to alcohol at dance shows, which lead to less aggression as well.

Psychedelics you're talking about.

Yeah, alcohol tends to make people a little angrier.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, that's facts, though.

The type of music, the frequencies you're putting out.

Do you guys look into the frequencies at all?

We do.

That's cool.

I like that.

Big on 432.

It's my favorite one.

That's the best one, right?

Whenever I'm feeling feeling a little sick or down, I pop up a frequency, like a healing one or a loved one, and it actually changes.

Those are the selfeggios you're talking about.

Yeah.

So are you into meditation?

Yeah.

It's great.

You guys meditate.

Yeah.

That's cool.

What form, I guess?

Because mine's different, but

I feel like right now I'm meditating, like centering my energy using a mudra, keeping my energy inward and

just staying calm.

I'm similar, yeah.

I don't do the set one where you're like eyes closed and stuff.

Yeah, I don't prefer that in the shower.

I feel like I am a lot or when I'm running or working out.

Yeah, even driving.

Yeah.

Driving, I zone out.

I'm like, damn, I've been driving for 20 minutes.

Driving is a meditation in itself.

I actually, I mean, my meditation practices have changed here and there, but

I tend to meditate a lot, especially like when I'm home in the morning.

I have like a practice that I do.

That's cool.

Yeah, breath work's been huge for me too.

Breath work's great.

So sick.

I had some actual like chest pain the other day and I thought it was like something I ate, but it was anxiety.

And then I did a whim hoff breath work, went away completely wow just from breath work it's amazing it's insane right yeah I mean I feel like I'm ascending into the universe at the speed of light when I'm doing that yeah I mean it's

a game changer because people try to put you on pills and stuff to fix your mental health and it's like you could just do breath work and grounding I agree with that yeah and I think giving yourself breaks of substances is really good like right now I'm doing a wave of sobriety just to find that next layer of self.

And then, but I'm like zero 100.

So like I can party, but I always maintain control too and never lose sight of momentum it's like all those forces balancing at once but if anybody's struggling with with the anxiety and these type of things i think cutting off everything is the best thing yeah for at least a month and you'll see like and then start to understand the source of where those emotions are coming from and then going into the reframing of them simplify your lifestyle right we were talking right before we filmed about your guy's schedule so have you experienced like burnout or just feeling stress and anxiety living on the road so much I was just having this conversation with a friend the other day.

I do think I don't have an addictive personality, but I do find that I'm a bit addicted to being busy because my schedule is just, I'm so busy all the time that

it's hard for me to relax.

That's why I do meditate and like force myself into these scenarios that calm myself.

But like recently, I came off like a long, busy weekend and I immediately started jumping into another activity of like being busy.

Yeah.

And

I think that we do have to be a little more intentional on

relaxing and finding calm because we're just always go, go, go.

I think our generation right now is just like that's all because even social media, it's like you're constantly on something

or you constantly feel like you need to be doing something.

Yeah, I just think our schedule causes us to be really busy.

So whenever I have those thoughts of, am I, oh, this is too much or those type of things, I always just come back to gratitude and be like, but like, I get to do this.

This is what we get to do.

Like, why would I complain about anything?

Right.

And then it just helps me bring myself back to chilling.

I could relate to both of that.

Yeah, I have a gratitude journal every morning.

That's great.

Non-negotiable 10 things.

Yeah.

It helps a lot.

And then, yeah, if I just sit around, I feel like uncomfortable

at home.

Like, I need to be doing something.

We need momentum, bro.

That's what we're all chasing.

We actually don't care about the end goal as much as we do of just having some sort of momentum in some way.

Right.

Because I feel like I'm going backwards.

It's not doing anything.

Yeah.

But I do feel like I experience burnout, but I wouldn't even know that it's burnout because I just like fight through it and continue working.

I did that for years and then it led to panic attacks.

Oh, wow.

Because it'll come up, you know, if you just put it to the side.

Yeah.

So I had to like face it head on.

That was tough.

Yeah.

I think my meditation and my morning routine helps me for sure.

Absolutely.

I wasn't doing any of that in college.

I was just partying, sleeping four hours a day, and then the stress added up and then I just collapsed on the floor.

Yeah, definitely no scrolling in the morning.

Don't interact with the phone in that way because that leads to you conditioning your day around the micro dopamine hits associated with doing that rather than doing all the things that you're talking about or just stretch or drink some water.

Also, it doesn't really give your brain like the chance to do what it would want to do and you're kind of automatically influenced by whatever you're watching.

So yeah, that's a bad habit for sure.

I try to get into a creation cycle in the morning where it like trains my brain to

crave more creating.

Yeah, I'd love to talk to you guys about your creative process because there's so many distractions these days.

It must be really hard to lock down and focus, right?

We are very different creators.

Oh, you're different.

I think that it's a benefit to our project that we're very different.

Um,

but yeah, we're just we're different.

I think uh, I'm like way more the type of creator where I like to,

I mean, on the go, I'm constantly voice memoing.

Like I get influenced by whatever I'm experiencing in life and I'll create in my voice memos and bring it to Ableton.

But I find I create the best when I'm just alone and not influenced by anything.

And I think that he's a little bit more strategic with creation, but you speak for yourself, you know.

Yeah, I mean, I...

When I'm making something, I like to understand why and who's it for and what is the emotion that I'm trying to evoke out of the person that's going to be consuming for what purpose.

Right.

You know, what's the offer?

And it could be as simple as to make them smile.

It's not, it doesn't have to be so deep, but as long as I'm understanding kind of like, oh, we got to get to Mars.

That's the mission.

Like, and then kind of setting the frame along with the mission.

And I feel like that's honestly what's really helped with our dynamic because she's over here like throwing all these ideas at the wall.

And then I'm able to kind of like funnel them into something.

Oh, I love that.

You know, it serves the market.

So, you're like the visionary, and he kind of is more tactical.

I am always, I just have like all these ideas that I want, and I, it bugs me sometimes.

Although, I do now that I've been doing this for so long, I do reference tracks and get inspired from like what other people are doing, but I just love the uniqueness that comes from like your own mind.

And, like, I have all so many ideas all the time that, um, yeah, I just want to expand on what I already have going on because I'm such a creative.

Right.

But I respect and enjoy how much he

really thinks about like what's going on in the scene and like,

yeah, taking my ideas in a way and like really putting them in a.

But every song is different too.

And it's every moment and how we're feeling and where we are with each other or in our own individual journeys.

And some songs is as simple as, hey, let's go sit down and start making a song and then we'll just start.

And then whatever that first, whether it's a chord progression, a drum loop, a vocal idea, will be like the seed seed of inspiration, right?

And then it just starts growing.

Here's a new branch.

Here's a new branch.

Here's a new branch.

We just start building that tree of creation.

I love the, have you guys used AI to make any songs yet?

Yeah.

Yeah, definitely.

In the context of what song do we use AI that came out?

What hasn't come out?

Yeah, I don't think we put out music, but we've made like intros and like we had Morgan Freeman do our intros.

Oh, that's cool stuff with AI?

Yeah.

And that's allowed?

Yeah, because we're not distributing it for anything other than at our shows.

Oh, wow.

That's cool.

We also have been taking my voice and

like a way for us to hear an idea with my voice without me having to record the whole thing is just using AI.

Oh yeah, we've trained a model.

So if people send us demos, I can go and separate because now you can separate stems with AI.

So take whatever demo gets sent, separate the stems, take the vocal stem, put it into our.

So I hear myself singing it.

Our boy actually created it, Hook Added.

That just sounds like you?

Yeah, Hooky Devil.

It sounds just like me.

It's really crazy.

It makes me feel like sometimes I'm like, okay, well, there are parts that it's not hitting perfectly, which feels good.

But at the same time, I'm like, oh no, like, if I lose my voice,

I'll be good.

But it's also scary.

That is crazy.

So they could bring dead people back with their voice.

So they need a model.

So in theory, they could pull the stems out of all the some deceased artists.

They definitely can't make a model and do it.

Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, I remember when the Drake songs, the fake ones, got leaked and they were like viral.

He got pissed and took them down or whatever, right?

I don't know if he took him down or not.

Or he requested to is labeled it, I believe.

But I don't think there's grounds unless you can prove that the source of the AI model was him, in which case you could.

But if you pulled it from videos where that's public domain versus the actual tracks, and then you get into a whole legal argument that's not fully flushed out yet.

So that's like a whole landscape that's currently developing.

Well, it's cool to see you guys embrace it because I know there's both ends of it.

Some artists are not like feeling it.

Yeah, like right now, anybody could go onto this website called Hookie that our boy created and use her voice to create a song and then they send it to us to approve it or not approve it.

And there's like a licensing model associated with that.

But I think it's cool.

Like anyone can go and use my voice.

And yes, we have to approve it, but it just creates more of an opportunity to have like a phenomenal song with my voice on it that somebody's sending us.

More chances to go viral.

Exactly.

Have any of them got some traction yet?

No, there haven't been any songs that have come out under this model.

It's a new

tool that we're not necessarily pushing super hard because we're waiting for the

algorithm or the model to get a little bit makes sense.

It probably gets better over time with the more reps.

Oh, yeah.

Exactly.

Yeah, it's only getting better.

That's cool.

I love that.

Well, where are you guys performing next?

F1 this weekend.

Yeah?

Yeah.

Oh, nice.

The paddock on Friday.

Let's go.

That's going to be a blast.

Have you guys done F1 yet?

We went to F1 in Miami just to go.

That was super, that was super fun.

Yeah.

We did like the whole police escort going in.

So all the traffic was just

actually a really cool story.

Our last F1,

we met Tiesto after we had to be.

That's actually crazy.

We had been chatting with him a bit through DMs, but it was our first time meeting him right before he performed.

Nice.

And

after we had met him, he was mentioning how he liked one of our songs.

And

long story short, a week later, or that Monday, I think it was, yeah, he had his team reach out to us for us to open for him at the Brooklyn Mirage in New York that next week.

Whoa.

And so we went from just meeting him at F1 to then opening for him at the Brooklyn Mirage the next week.

It was an epic experience for us.

That's insane.

Opening for TSO.

That's like one of the goats, right?

Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, it was amazing.

And it just, it definitely formed this.

relationship where now we really are excited to like put out a song with him.

We're going to put something together.

Beautiful.

Have you done anything with Aoki Aoki yet?

He's out here.

No, we haven't done anything with Aoki.

No?

Yeah, I know he's everywhere.

We've played some shows with him though.

Yeah, we did a show with him in Texas.

In Texas?

Yeah.

He's in a new state every day.

Midland.

Midland.

He's all over.

And then on Saturday, we play in Mississippi.

We play a fraternity party in Old Miss.

Fraternity party.

So you're still doing like home parties?

Hell yeah.

Oh, dope.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, if they

come correct.

They can afford it.

Yeah, the big South schools.

Sprouts got money.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they got the donors.

Shout out to their parents.

They're some of the most fun shows because the college kids are like that

in that area of life.

They're like starting the trends.

And like,

once you turn them on to your music, it's good.

They got a lot of influence, right?

Yeah, and there's going to be a period eventually where we're going to be, you know, priced out of that whole scene.

And it's fun for us to go back year after year and hear the minds of the 21, 19, whatever age they are.

and how they think about the world, what they care about, the music they're listening to.

Right.

And, you know, I try to ask as many questions these kids as possible

so that I can stay in touch.

We get to hang out with them before the show.

Yeah.

Keeps you in touch with the culture, right?

When I had Mike Posner on the show, he talked about how his start was in college campuses.

And that's how he started his career.

Yeah, I feel like a lot of people are like that.

That's interesting.

Yeah, because I guess when you're starting out, that's like a perfect audience to kind of test it, right?

Absolutely.

And I feel like the Bonnie and Clyde dynamic, the girl guy thing, the whole formal,

you know, how Fratz and the girls and they're all trying to interact, it creates a cool dynamic where they keep bringing us back.

Right.

And they're just so open to new music.

I find when we play new music,

they just get hype over anything.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's fun.

Have you guys bet on Polymarket before?

So I did.

The time where I actually use Polymarket,

but I didn't put money into Polymarket because I don't hold crypto.

Is

I bet with my bookies on the election and I use it as the indicator on what to bet and I hit everything.

Oh, yeah.

And also while we were watching the you know the news, I had another screen over here on Polymarket and it it indicated way before the news cycle came out.

I saw that.

Yeah, I feel like a lot of people knew it was over way before it was over.

Well, you saw they arrested the CEO, right?

Probably because they're taking money out of America.

I don't know what happened, but I think the FBI like raided his house or whatever.

Whoa.

Because he knew the election results before they came out.

Right.

Yeah.

So they were like, how'd you know that?

I was wondering.

That's actually.

It moves on the market.

It moves based on the demand of the crowd.

So you just feel it's an, it's a yeah, people knew like four hours before.

Right.

Well, it was 95%, but that's because people are selling and buying, right?

It's not him knowing what it is.

Yeah.

But like that's wild.

I didn't know he got arrested.

Yeah, this was like a week ago.

Yeah, I actually heard about that.

Yeah, shout out to that.

I mean, that's a tough game.

That's a tough business to try to create.

Shout out to that guy.

It's a cool business.

Yeah, got some powerful enemies in the sports and gambling world for sure.

A lot of money in that.

Yeah.

But there's one bet on there right now.

Who will be Billboard number one pop star of the century?

Is there a list?

Are you going to come off?

Taylor Swift, Beyonce, or other.

Oh, God.

I mean, it's Swift.

I'm going to have to go to the Swift.

Yeah, she's at 87% right now.

Yeah, I mean, she's

just.

She tends to take all the W's there.

Yeah, she's number one right now everywhere, right?

Yeah.

Even in the NFL.

Even like on our set, like, I'll pay a Tyler Swift song.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

I love seeing them sing.

And do the guys react to it or just the girls?

I mean, ultimately, if the girls are happy, the guys are happy.

What's wild is I'm a Taylor Swift fan, but I'm way more of a fan of her first, like when she was country.

I hear that a lot.

Yeah, I'm not, not that I don't respect her as a songwriter moving forward into the other genres.

I just think she was so good at what she was initially writing that I almost just want her to go back there.

Because when I hear a lot of her pop music, I'm like, yeah, it's tough because you got to adapt to the numbers, and pop's probably number oneer now, I'd assume.

Right.

I think it's always pop, what's popular.

So, yeah, you saw Drake go from like hip-hop to kind of pop.

And people were like, I missed the old Drake.

But he still has done it all, I think.

Not a lot of people make it that long.

So the longevity is what is impressive.

Yeah, absolutely.

Same with your space.

I'm sure people don't last long, right?

Yeah, I've been really lucky to last a decade.

A decade's a long time in this space.

Yeah.

And we're going to go two more, three more.

Let's go.

Yeah.

I love it.

Well, you're performing at F1.

Where else can people find you guys?

Spotify, Apple Music, Instagram.

But the most important thing is the music.

So, wherever you listen to music, go listen to that.

Fucking cloud.

Spotify is a great place.

Okay.

We'll link it below.

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That was fun.

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