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So I knew the church we went to was really weird growing up.

And as I got older and I saw other people in their churches, I was like, wow, ours was weird.

And then I looked it up one day and the word cult was attached to it.

Did growing up in that super religious environment kind of cause you to rebel?

Oh, yeah.

Let's go with the stereotype here, of course.

Like, I didn't know what a gay person was until I was 12.

My dad told me one time, if you make out with girls, let demons enter your heart.

Damn, so he's like super religious.

He's very religious.

They're not homophobic, they're just very, very classical Christian.

all right guys madison morgan here today what is

what an outfit i right do you wear this all the time um i wear it to church most often nice you go to church every sunday no no not anymore not anymore i actually have very very religious parents though um it was interesting we're starting off with something spicy i guess yeah um So I knew the church we went to was really weird growing up.

And as I got older and I saw other people in their churches, I was like, wow, ours was weird.

And then I looked it up one day and the word cult was attached to it.

And I was like,

wow.

Something was off.

Where was that one?

It was in Southern California.

Oh.

Yeah.

A pretty normal place, like not a super religious place, but it's there.

Did growing up in that super religious environment kind of cause you to rebel?

Oh, yeah.

Let's go with the stereotype here, of course.

Like, I didn't know what a gay person was until I was 12.

What?

Like, I never actually heard of one.

I was about the same age, I'd say.

Really?

Yeah.

Because

they weren't shoving it down kids' throats like they are now.

Yeah, everyone knows what a gay person is now.

It's just interesting to, like, I've just never heard of one until that day.

Yeah, I would say probably, yeah.

Intermediate school is when I learned.

Intermediate school?

Yeah, fifth grade.

Fifth grade.

Yeah, so about the same as you.

But now I feel like they know it before they're even in kindergarten.

For sure.

Which is crazy.

You know, I don't like that.

You don't?

What, you do?

You don't like gay people?

No, I don't like that they're pushing it.

Oh, I was like, okay, let me just clarify.

No, I don't mind gay people.

All right, all right, all right.

I know a few gay people.

You know a few?

Yeah.

You ever thought about being with a guy?

Hell no.

What the fuck?

Have you thought about being with a girl?

You know, I have.

Definitely thought about it.

And you acted on it?

I did.

Nice.

I'm just giving you a hard time.

I know.

How old were you when you first did that?

14?

No, 13.

Wow.

I know.

That's young.

I know.

It was really weird.

Like, funny and weird.

Like, I was with like two of my girlfriends, and one of them was like, she's just like a horny little girl.

Like,

she was just like a pervert.

And she would just say the most outrageous stuff.

This is still like when I was like really into like the church thing.

I was like very, very sheltered.

And we were with another one of my girlfriends.

And then she was like, I want to film you guys making out.

And we were like, yeah.

For some reason, we like let her do it.

Damn.

At 13.

At 13.

And then it was game.

I thought I was like so,

I was hot, but I remember I was like, oh, I'm so dirty.

Why did I do such a thing?

And then now I'm like, oh, that's cool.

You didn't tell the parents about that one?

No, they never found out.

Thank God.

Well, now they know.

My dad told me one time, girl, if you make out with girls, it lets demons enter your heart.

Damn.

So he's like super religious.

He's very religious.

They're not homophobic.

They're just very, very classical Christian.

Do you still talk to them?

I do.

Really?

Yeah, they're really good people.

They don't get affected by what you do.

they don't like i don't think so they don't like it but they still accept and support me as like a person so that's more than you know i can say for a lot of parents out there yeah

but i don't think any dad's like dreams were their little girl to grow up and get gang banged on in all fairness yeah from the netflix series the up jaws get ready for my caps you gotta keep on reminding your girl how sexy she is because if you don't her work husband gonna tell her that's why you gotta pop up on your girl's job sometime.

Yeah, uh-huh.

Where's she at?

You looking for that work husband.

That's the first dude that you say to say, you looking for Cheryl?

He's like, no, I'm looking for you.

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How old were you when you got in the adult industry?

I was, it was in my senior year of high school.

Damn.

Like right at the very beginning, I turned 18 right at the beginning.

So you, you planned it out.

No, it happened on accident.

What?

How was that an accident?

So I, my parents and I got into like a big fan argument one day, and then they're like, you can leave the house.

And I was like,

well, I don't want to do that, but whatever.

And I worked at IHOP and Pizza Hut, which, and I went to high school.

And what did we make back in our, what, 825 at the time?

So I was like, well, I can't like live somewhere and pay rent and have a car payment and all that.

So my, this girl kept posting on Facebook, make $200 a day, make $200 a day.

And I was like, what is that?

And so I hit her up like, what is this job?

And she like was super vague.

She wouldn't tell me, but I was desperate, right?

So I called up my old boss and he was very, you know, very, uh, very much a smooth talker.

And I'm like, okay, I still don't know what this job is, but he sounds nice.

So I rolled in and I wore like a business casual attire like I would wear to like a normal interview.

Yeah.

And then I go, so like, what is this job?

And then he explained, it essentially explains like what webcamming is.

And I'd never heard of webcamming.

There was no reason for me.

me to really know back then or I think a lot of people had really heard of it either.

But

he eventually goes, yeah, so you can get paid to eat and sleep or something along those lines and i go whoa whoa paid to eat and sleep that sounds like the easy way out i'm taking it it's not a bad offer 200 bucks a day to eat and sleep yes and then my first day actually did make exactly 200 bucks like two 200 and like eight cents or something like that wow just for webcamming for what yeah and you had to talk to guys though right oh of course well i remember i was like oh i won't get naked like because i was just scared or you know it just wasn't something i'd made peace with yet And I was like, oh, well, I'll do it, but I won't get naked.

And then I remember one guy was like, just, just please.

And I had no boobs.

God bless this guy.

He's like, I just really want to see your boobs.

I was like, no, no, I won't.

Okay.

And then it was game over from.

Yeah, and every time I got talked into it, though, like, I always like remember I kind of like had fun.

And I was just like, oh, I don't care.

This doesn't like bother me.

Like, I think it's kind of fun.

And then it escalated from there from the webcam.

It did.

How did that happen?

Browsers hit me up a couple years ago because I got a big Instagram following back when that was more important.

And before everyone had BBLs, I have a really naturally big butt.

So I would just take up a whole lot of booty.

My friends would still, even to this day, I've never seen so many pictures of someone's butt.

But I just was posting them on up there.

And yeah, then I got,

browsers hit me up, said, we'll give you a contract.

And I said, oh, well, I'm going to go with anybody.

This is kind of the time.

And it was more than the webcam money.

So at that point, I had started doing, this isn't even, like, this is kind of an obsolete thing now, but premium Snapchat.

That's what, that's what came before

kind of paved the way for it.

I heard of it.

Premium Snapchat.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was a big, I had a couple of friends that like made a million dollars in a year.

Wow.

Like over a million dollars.

It was really good money at the time.

But I was already doing that.

So I definitely was doing like adult work.

I just wasn't.

So people in the industry will say like mainstream work.

So if you upload your own stuff and you do like, that's like you're doing amateur

right, but if you shoot for the studios like I don't know like uh browsers.com or naughty america or like team ski just to name if you or bang bros.com like that those are like studio sets and that's when you're like a professional got it so to speak and that's how you started right

and then you now you have an of or no oh yeah i had it before all that oh you did yeah okay so you do both i of course i feel like these days you have to you have to oh yeah Yeah, because I know a lot of people pick one or start with one and then they make fun of the other one.

I don't get what the big deal is anyways.

I think they're both cool and we're doing pretty much the same.

Like being on a studio set is a little bit more challenging, but yeah, I think the beef people have is like very imaginary.

Yeah.

What's what's more challenging about it?

Um

with OF you can just shoot whatever you want and whatever feels comfortable versus like if you're on a set you have a PA a makeup artist a camera guy a lighting guy, a photographer, a director.

So that's just a lot of moving parts.

And then everybody, of course, like has to get their own time.

Like, it's just like a, it's a bit more corporate, I suppose.

And then they get, the studio will hit the director up and say, we want, here's your script.

We need this kind of video and we need you to make it for us.

So

sometimes they're like, okay, well.

Like, most of the time it's never on a bed, which is really funny.

Like, they are, they do not like beds over there.

Let me tell you.

Really?

I don't know what it is with

being like anti-bed.

It's kind of ironic.

Right?

Kind of ironic.

But they'll be like, here's like a kitchen island.

Like we need 45 minutes and we need to see everything.

So you just do like

more challenging positions.

I would say like stuff you just wouldn't do at home because they're not super comfortable.

Yeah.

And then you sometimes they're like, we need to relight and move.

And then the guy's like, dick is up and then it's down and it's up and then it's down.

Yeah, he's got to to keep it up for an hour.

God bless them.

God bless.

It's a long time.

It is.

I think they get tired by the end of that, you know?

For sure.

It's bad, though, because most of the directors are cool about it.

They're like, hey, you know, I got one too.

Whatever.

You know, like, and I try to never give them a hard time because, like, you know, they're doing the best they can.

Things happen.

But I've been on set before where, like, the director will be like, what is wrong with you?

Why isn't it hard?

I'm like, stop yelling at him.

I want to go home too.

That would make it worse.

I feel like.

You're getting shamed for it.

I know.

I'm like, this is not healthy.

Like, how would you get turned on at that point?

Right.

I try to help them out at first.

I'll like, you know, fluff them up a little bit.

But if it's taking them like an hour to finish, I'm kind of like,

yeah, you're on your own, buddy.

An hour is nuts.

Yeah.

So some guys are lasting that long.

Okay, I don't want to say an hour.

It may be a little bit exact, but it's taken, we've all sat there in like silence and waited like 20 minutes for the guy to keep jerky.

Holy.

He's just having, you know, he's just not having.

He's just off that day.

20 minutes just to get hard?

No, um,

well, that's happened before, too.

Sheesh, to finish the finishing finish, okay.

Well, that makes sense.

Yeah, and again, it's fine because it's been up, down.

Like, again, it's 20 minutes out of my day.

I don't care.

Yeah.

I don't want to stress them out.

Damn.

What's uh the comes eventually?

What's the most memorable scene you've done that you remember?

You've done a lot, but I have.

Oh, God.

Dread.

Dread was interesting.

I bet.

That was so long.

Videographer over there's laughing.

I said to my videographer, I was like, hey, can you edit this trailer up for this video?

And he was like, is this a joke?

Like, is that like a real penis?

I was like, yeah.

Yeah.

He's like the nicest guy in the world.

I know.

He's been on the show.

Oh, has he?

Oh,

we've talked about the issues he deals with.

He goes, oh, I asked, I was like, how many is that?

He goes, oh, I don't know.

He's like, oh, like, I mean, at least, you know, it's like 10, like, something like that.

Like, I was like, only 10?

12 is insane.

I don't know how big it is.

It's big enough, though.

Yeah, like, that's just, I feel like at that point, is that too much?

Like, it felt, I'm not going to.

Okay, so it definitely hurt.

It wasn't anything to do with him.

It's just that's the way the anatomy is.

But there were times, like, during the video, I was like, oh, my God, this is, like, to die for because it just hits spots no one's ever

damn.

Okay.

There were a couple of times where I was like, woo,

okay.

Wow.

Guys got some work to do then.

Yep.

I did a trans girl gangbang.

So I got gangbanged by a bunch of trans girls.

What the trans girl gangbang?

Is that a category now?

I haven't heard of that one.

It was for me.

It was really fun.

My friend who set it up is like her and her girlfriends.

And then she has like this big giant like Barbie mansion.

And they're all wearing like pink BDSM Barbie clothes.

And I got there and they're like all running around, like trying to do stuff.

And I was like, okay, it's like, what are we filming today?

She goes, you're bottoming.

Oh, my gosh.

So, how many of them were there?

There were three.

Three?

Is that the most you've done at once?

No, I took 10 at once.

Oh, my God.

Well, not trans girls at the same time.

10?

I took 10.

They said it.

They're like, yeah, but so we scheduled like a gangbang for you.

And I'm like, all right, it's time my career for that, I guess.

And then, which I was really excited about.

I was stoked.

And I was like, how many guys are coming?

Like, we don't know because sometimes guys like drop out or whatever.

Somebody's test comes back or like, I don't know.

Shit can go wrong, right?

And then there were 10.

You must have been exhausted.

My friend said I sounded like I was getting axe murdered.

I was tired, but I had such a good time.

10?

Oh, my gosh.

They were so nice.

They were like all these like big giant deals.

I was like, what's up?

How are we doing?

I think they were like more nervous than I was.

Wow.

I don't know how Bonnie Blue does it.

She's coming on soon.

Oh, is she?

Did a thousand in a day.

Is there video proof of this?

i heard there was but she just got banned on of yesterday i saw that um because she was trying to do like more than a thousand or something i know i see all these people they're like oh i got on tech talk like oh she's setting society back and i'm like

it's her choice i mean she can't everyone who signed up is a willing participant That's a good point.

It's not like she's making them do it.

Like, guys are signing up.

Yeah, and she's the one who wants to do this.

So I don't, I don't know if people are going to get mad at that, but like, I don't, I generally don't see the problem with it if everybody's consenting adults.

Yeah.

I was just shocked, though.

I'd never seen someone get banned like that on OF.

No.

I think just the bad publicity from it, but that sucks for her.

Yeah, because she was making half a mill a month.

Good for her.

That's a big stream she lost.

That is.

Hopefully she'll figure out.

Because I don't know what

paying, but probably nowhere close to that, right?

No, they're not really.

Tube sites don't really pay anything.

Really?

So you make most of the money off the OF stuff.

Yeah.

Did you build yours up to a good size?

I did.

I did pretty good.

Twitter marketing?

Twitter, mostly Instagram.

Instagram?

Instagram.

I thought they ban you if you post it there.

I have friends that are like, how do you post what you post?

And you never got banned?

Oh, no.

I've been banned like so many times.

Yeah.

You just appeal it.

You get it bad.

Because I don't actually break the terms of service.

You just post half-nudes.

Half-nudes.

Yeah.

I mean, you obviously can't just be like Vagin out,

but.

Oh, man.

Also, cheeks.

Just show an else.

Yeah, cheeks are fine, right?

For sure.

I did want to ask about the webcam days.

Yeah.

You ran into some wild fetishes.

Yeah.

So the website I work, I've been on there for a long time, and it is specifically more of a fetish website because you can take the girl into a one-on-one show.

So that's where the fetish people go.

So it's just you and the person.

Yeah, it's just you and the person.

So they flock towards that website.

But yeah, guys with like hardcore fetishes are really funny because they just fixate so much on these really minute things.

And you think to yourself, how could this turn anyone on this much to have spent $600 on this regularly and it'll be like I've had guys ask me to brush my teeth I've had guys ask me to like sit on a balloon or there was one guy actually not too long ago and he was like hey do you have he pops into my chat room and he goes hey do you have your tonsils still and I go yeah he goes oh can I see them and I go okay so he takes me to like the little chat room thing and then he's like oh yeah like zoom in on the back of your throat I want you to just

cough it up for me so I can see those tonsils in motion.

I'm like, Yeah, Jeddie, you take this chance.

You're seeing faking juicy.

Oh my god, he was thrilled.

Tonsil fetish.

A tonsil fetish.

That's the craziest one I've ever heard.

Isn't that funky?

Yeah, I've heard some wild ones, but that one takes the icing, I think.

Tonsil fetish.

I had all these tags, like juicy tonsils, like great gagging.

And I was like, I'm wife material.

Yeah, because I know there's a poop fetish.

You don't do that one?

Never.

I don't even like to discuss bathroom.

Like for being as like having a bit more of a wild lifestyle and being various to people's bodies and people being a little used to mine, I cannot stand bathroom humor or anybody mentioning things they did in the rest.

Wow, that's your line, huh?

I can't do it.

Like, it makes me like...

Just want to like kill myself and kill the person who's talking about it.

So you'll get banged by 10 dudes, but if someone brings up poop,

that's your line.

Yeah.

Yeah, you're not good.

Everybody's got their thing, I guess.

Yeah, I guess so.

I'm like such a prude about it.

Have you turned down a fetish request?

Yes.

Which one?

Um

definitely, what is it called?

Scat.

That's what that's like the official title for like poop stuff.

Oh, okay.

That's probably like the most crazy like common request people will want.

Or no, a lot of them will be like can you fart for me?

And I'm like I've never done that a day in my life ever first of all and second of all

Yeah, I've heard that one too.

The P1 too

I don't mind the P.

It's not like something where I'm like, oh my god.

Like I gotta I gotta have that man golden shower me.

R.

Kelly meme.

It doesn't really bother me.

I let somebody do it once.

Like we were partying with like this one director and he was like, I just love to pee on people.

And my boyfriend and I at the time were like, oh, okay, okay, cool.

I mean,

do you, boo-boo?

And then we were like all partying.

We're all like super drunk in the pool.

And then he like gets my boyfriend in me.

And then he like kind of props me up.

He goes, do it.

And like swims away.

And I was like,

no way.

Okay.

And then I did it.

And I was like,

I was like, did you like that?

He goes, no.

I go, me neither.

Oh, my God.

That's kind of that.

But I'm not shaming it.

Damn.

So you had a boyfriend at the time.

Yeah.

Was he in the industry?

He was.

How'd that end up?

It's hard to date in the industry.

I'll say that.

I've heard that.

It's hard.

Just natural jealousy, right?

Yeah, the guys are pretty competitive with one another.

And then

they're...

And I understand, like, it's not maybe your favorite thing.

To like, but also, like, you're the one doing it too.

And then you knew this girl did it before you got with her.

So I don't really understand the the switch-up.

Yeah,

I think you just need really good communication.

Like, Adam and Lena pull it off, yeah, they do.

Like, she just did another scene with uh, was it Dredd, or I don't know, I forget the guy, it was someone else, I think.

The other black guy, I forget his name, but there's a couple, yeah.

Um, but yeah, he doesn't care.

He doesn't?

Well, I know she didn't, I don't think she filmed Boy Girl for like a really long time, though, right?

She took uh some years off, and then they did that one viral scene, and then they just did it again last week.

Oh, good for them.

And Adam doesn't care.

So, shout out.

Have you been on that show, Plug Talk?

I have, yes.

Nice.

How was that?

It was fun.

Yeah, you had a good interview.

I think so.

Or Plug Talk?

Yeah, Plug Talk.

Yeah, I did Plug Talk.

That one was cute.

Yeah.

A lot of booty.

That's the craziest podcast I've ever heard of.

Plug Talk?

Yeah, where you interview the guests and then you have sex after.

Good big orange couch, baby.

Crazy.

Adam's doing big things, you know.

You had an incident with his former co-host, Sharp.

Oh, my favorite.

I saw that episode.

Yeah, that was an interesting interview.

How shocked were you with how things went down?

I was pretty surprised for sure.

Did you have any idea he'd be that angry, I guess?

I did not do my research like I should have.

I was definitely really surprised with how the interview went.

Granted, I had a couple of friends say, like, hey, this is just kind of how he does things.

And I was like, ooh, I should have done more research.

But, you know, i mean he does get a lot of views and he's doing whatever he needs to do to get that done so i understand there's podcasts that just it wasn't my favorite interview but i get it yeah there's pods like that just shit on of girls you know for sure fresh and fit oh that one yeah i i don't watch it obviously you should go on that one oh i'm good

i'm good i think i think sharp was enough for me it's funny though because i know like girls that go on these shows and they get kicked off and then right they just make a ton of money though I did make good money when that happened.

See?

Gotta say.

All PR is good PR, right?

That's true.

What's the next big idea you have for a video?

Anything planned?

The next big idea for a video.

You know, I'm in a little bit of a

would writer's block be applicable?

Yeah, creative block.

Creative block.

There you go.

Yeah.

I would consider that for you.

Pardon me?

I would consider you dealing with that, yeah, if you can't think of anything.

Yeah, I just, I filmed kind of everything at this point.

Damn.

So there's nothing you can think of left.

There's got to be something, right?

You've done all the role play stuff, all the

sex positions.

Most of them, most of them that I can physically do.

Three trans on one, ten guys on one.

Yep.

What's next?

I think you just kind of keep doing that.

You go back to regular boy girl, I guess.

Damn.

What's the end game for you?

You want to retire?

You want to keep doing this for a while?

I do.

I really want to do this as long as I can.

And I remember, of course, when I started, people are like, well, what about when you turn like 30 or what you can't do this forever and i understand why people would say that for sure um but there milfs exist milf money is the greenest milf's the best category right it's definitely up there people people like the milf stuff so once i kind of realized like i had the option to not ever have to quit i was like great i get to do my dream job whatever

never get sick of it you just oh there's times i hate it like with i think with any job or anything you really love to do you're gonna have even if it's your dream job, some days it's not your dream job and it's tedious and frustrating, whatever.

But that's just life.

Or your DMs.

Who means you care?

Yeah.

Are your

DMs pretty crazy?

They're nuts.

A lot of celebrities and blue checks in there.

When I was big on Snapchat, because I just keep getting deleted, so I don't really mess with it.

But yeah, a lot of athletes, a lot of rappers.

You ever respond or no?

Yes.

I can't name names, but uh, you signed some NDAs for sure.

yup yup

you've been to some diddy parties I have not been to a Diddy party you haven't no like actually are you just no genuinely I've never been to one

have you been watching the trials I know some people who did go though I will say this though so I've never been to one but there were a couple guys that I ran into on set about four and four or five different guys told me this exact same story they were all like really pretty like they would come into set every once in a while but they were usually like my magic mic dancers like so that's the kind of guy and they said, Oh, Diddy hired me for something this weekend.

And I'll go, Oh, like, how'd it go?

They're like, Yeah.

So, like, basically, Diddy would watch them, like, sleep, like, hook up with the girl, but then Diddy would get like very involved.

And he'd be like, Oh, yeah, just like, get your shoulders up and just touch her like this.

And you'd just be like touching on the guy.

And the guy was like, And I heard this exact same story quite a few times.

And they would go, Is he trying to try to, whatever, like, just get off of me?

Let me fuck this girl.

It's like a cuck, but like, reverse.

Yeah, so he basically would just like choreograph these like scenes he would want them to do, and then he would just feel them out, you know, kind of literally, and then be like, oh, I wonder, like, I guess, like, to figure out if they're by or not.

So, wow.

I guess it's a pretty clever way, right?

Yeah.

They're already naked.

Right.

Like, do you want to come to a party?

Do you want to like have sex with this girl and get paid?

Do you want to fuck me and get paid?

No.

Okay.

Oh, my gosh.

Have you been to a swinger party before?

Never.

Really?

I'm actually shocked you haven't done that.

I know.

I went to the green door one time with my friends.

It's like this terrible, God bless it.

I heard it.

This terrible, like, janky club in Las Vegas.

It's the most known one.

It's the Swingers Club.

And my friends and I were all like hanging out one day.

It was like four of us, like two guys, two girls.

I told my friend, like, Dre, to just, I was like, here, you're going to be my little buddy for the night.

And then my friend and his girlfriend.

So, anyways, we walk in.

We're like, oh, swinger.

Cause we're pretty wild.

You know, these aren't industry friends either.

We're just like.

having some drinks.

Yeah.

Hanging out.

And we got in there.

There are no women to be found.

Just some of the craziest, like, creepiest looking men on earth.

God bless.

I don't know what we were expecting.

We like went to like a little private room and we're like, oh yeah, we're at the Schwinger's Club.

And then like eight or nine guys like piled on in.

I was like, get me out of here.

Jeez.

That's sketchy.

I was like, get me the hell out of here.

Do you just have sex in any room there?

Like, how does it work?

Um, I don't remember

in too much detail, but I just remember it was dark.

It was really dark.

And then we paid for like a wristband and like got like a drink pass.

And then they're like, oh, like if you guys want to do stuff, here's like this tiny dark room.

And then all the boys just, you know, like little penguins, they just shuffled it in.

Sounds horrible.

You think they're not like that?

They're not cute.

I would have.

Yeah, they're not cute.

You think they'd have like a ratio thing?

That's what I thought.

We're like, because even like, if it's not a girl, you necessarily maybe would want to go with it.

She's going to keep her dude in check or they're just going to be on better behaviors.

Yeah, Vegas isn't the scene for that.

But LA, I heard, has some sex parties that are pretty low.

Right.

Those really cool ones.

Like, you have to, like, everybody gets tested.

Everybody sends a waiver, like, no cell phones.

And, like,

you've been to those, haven't you?

I haven't.

No one invites me to swinger parties ever.

It's ridiculous.

Why do you think that is?

Oh, I'm always single.

Isn't that a good thing?

I would think so.

Yeah, I feel like you could just find a date for the night and pull up.

It's not something I've really looked into too terribly much.

No.

But no one invited me.

Maybe nobody wants me to come.

Could be.

Single by choice or just.

Oh, by choice.

Yeah.

Super busy with work.

Yeah.

And if it's not like, I don't know.

Like, of course, dating can get complicated and all that, but shouldn't it be fun?

Yeah.

Like, most of the time?

If I'm not having fun most of the time when I'm dating someone, I don't want to do it.

I can see guys being intimidated to date you.

Very.

They kind of are.

I just, yeah, you need a really strong person to be able to pull it off, I feel like.

That's true.

With the scenes you're doing.

Shout out to Riley Reid.

She found a good one.

She did happy for her.

She was someone I watched growing up.

Oh, she is such a sweet guy.

Her dudes are really.

I don't know him super well or anything.

He's very nice.

Hats off to him for doing that.

She's a great girl.

She deserves it.

She's nice.

You said earlier you took some blowjob classes.

I took a blowjob class once, yes.

In Vegas?

Yeah.

Wow.

It was at one of the adult stores.

You could just walk in and.

Yeah, I remember she gave us, I don't remember in, I don't remember a ton of details for him, I'm going to be honest, because because this is like 10 years ago.

But I will say she gave us a cucumber and she's like, okay, everybody, you know, just put that in your mouth.

And I put it, and it's, it's, it's so hard.

It's a cucumber.

And then she looked at me like throughout the, she goes, someone's eyes are watery.

And I was like, shut up.

So it was like a group class?

Yeah.

I was like, leave me my watery eyes alone.

Oh, God.

That's hilarious.

If I'm taking a class like that, like a sex class, I'd want to be one-on-one.

I mean, the group thing made it funnier.

Because everyone's uncomfortable together.

It was all girls.

Oh, no guys.

Well, I guess a guy could have joined, but I don't remember there before.

You also been arrested.

Oh.

We got to talk about that.

Oh.

I have dressed up as a cop.

Yeah.

Not in real life.

That was roleplay.

A little roleplay action for you.

Get those cuffs on.

I've tried cuffs.

Have you?

I don't really care for them.

I don't like them.

Right?

I always thought I was in high school when I tried it.

I was like, ooh, yeah, like the cuffs.

And I was just like, God, this is uncomfortable.

It sounds sounds fun.

And then.

Like, whipped cream.

Like, whipped cream was not actually fun.

You don't think so?

I don't think so.

Again, I feel like that's something like,

something I tried in high school.

I did like chocolate syrup and like whipped cream and like all that stuff.

And I was just like, it looks kind of cool.

I get it for like a,

but like in real life, I'm just like, I'm sticky.

And I don't like the taste of whipped cream.

But I just don't like me sticky afterwards.

Yeah.

No one talks about what happens afterwards.

I know.

That's kind of the problem there.

Yeah.

What excites you then?

What excites me?

You know what's interesting is like I've been more into like vanilla.

Like I like the freaky diggy stuff.

I really do.

But I've gotten like more into like, maybe it's like with age or just like the stuff I've had over the last years where I'm like more into the vanilla stuff.

Really?

I know.

That's shocking.

I know.

And I was always just like, ew, vanilla.

And I'm like, I got a little taste of that.

Yeah, because you'd think you'd be so over it by now, you know?

I don't.

I think if it's with the right person, you're never over it.

You believe in love.

Of course.

Of course.

You're romantic at heart yeah surprise bitches

it makes the sex better it does i and i i as uh

i'm just being real with you like have sex with a person you really love or have great chemistry with is always gonna be good

way better yeah even if someone was just like on paper better or could do like different better crazy moves or whatever like that's well and good like even if they're better but like someone you have like chemistry that you love a lot it's gonna be the best 100 Wow.

I'm shocked you have this take, honestly.

Oh, yeah.

Do you think someone in your industry would just treat sex as like a business?

I mean, there's days where that happens, but I don't like to.

Do you want to?

I mean, I did because it was fun.

I have as much fun with it as I can.

You still have the same passion for it as when you started in the industry or have you kind of mellowed out?

I don't like to film as much as I used to, but I still like sex in general for sure.

And there's times I definitely still really enjoy filming it.

It's just your first versus like your 500th it's not it's just gonna be different over 500 scenes

pretty sure wow pretty sure was it all different guys or no there's there were there's definitely some repeats okay wow 500 well done oh thanks that's got to be up there right dad is proud

you might as well shoot for a thousand if you're halfway there I know I need to like actually sit there and like count how much is but what a problem to have I know wow it's been a ride people any regrets

oh this is kind of a deep question or is it

i don't know if i would tell you if i had i didn't mean it to be my bad no that's okay

i can't really think of any and i don't know if i would tell you to be honest fair enough fair enough could get pretty personal now that i think about it yeah i don't know i try to live day by day i think everything that happens yeah for a reason yeah sometimes like when things

because you know of course i do have like my little things I regret.

I suddenly can't think of any at the top of my head.

But what I try to do is I'll think, like, okay, well, what about this bad thing that happened and it turned into like a good thing?

That's literally what happens every time.

Yeah, something good generally comes out of it eventually.

In my lowest moments, when I look back, it's like right after that, the best thing happens.

What are some of your regrets?

Do you want to tell me?

No, because I'm at peace with them.

Okay, so you don't want to like.

So even though they were regrets at the time, now the way I live, like, I really don't have any actually.

That's cool.

Yeah, so they used to be, but now I'm, like, treating it more as a lesson.

As a lesson.

Yeah.

It's very disciplined of you.

I like that.

I try not to live in the past because I used to.

Is that you on your shirt?

Yeah.

I'm going to launch a cartoon one day, inspire the next young generation of people.

Aw, look at you.

What a cute cartoon you are.

Not bad, right?

Yeah.

Shout out to my designer.

Who's your designer?

Meek.

She's

from the Philippines.

Ooh.

And now she lives here because I was able to pay her enough.

Are you Filipino?

I'm half Chinese.

Half Chinese.

Yeah.

I didn't get that right.

You like Asian guys?

I do.

Yeah.

That's a rare take.

Really?

Yeah.

Most of the people.

There's a lot of sexy Asian guys out there.

I don't know.

I don't know.

People have not explored enough, I guess, if they disagree.

Or present.

Let's go.

Yeah.

Yeah,

they're very intense in the bedroom.

I like that.

Very locked in, right?

Very locked in in the bedroom.

I like that a lot.

Hard workers.

We make up for it with the lack of size, the length.

I've seen some pretty hung Asian guys for sure.

Natural, though?

Yeah.

Okay.

You can't really, okay, there is nothing you can do to make your tick bigger.

No, there is.

What?

You're lying.

No, I swear to God.

No, tell me because if I could tell everybody because they asked me, like, I don't have a penis by the way.

There's two things I know for a fact, Ken, because I've seen guys do it.

What is it?

And I've had Sterling Cooper on, who's told me about it as well.

So the first one is penis pump.

Oh, I got Sterling, this poor guy, right?

Yeah.

Oh, I know Sterling.

Yeah, he has like a book about it, right?

Yeah.

First one is the penis pump.

And I've had the founder of a penis pump company on the show, Sam.

Shout out to Sam.

Okay.

He grew two inches from pumping for like 10 years.

Second way is...

So an inch every five years.

Yeah, for him, I guess.

Second way is stem cells.

You could get a P-shot in your dick.

Ouch, but okay.

Yeah, girls get it in their vagina if they want to get tighter.

But I don't.

I don't know.

I know you don't have a vagina.

Well, as far as I know, who knows?

I don't.

As far as I know.

But

I would never want to be as tight as I was ever again.

That shit really hurt.

Like, I don't remember a lot of painful things in my life.

I remember losing my virginity.

What is painful?

And my girlfriend had told me, like, yeah, the minute it goes in, you're going to be like, oh, my God, no, take it out just because it hurts so badly.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know.

Guys just like tightness.

So.

That's true.

Although, I will say, if you don't go at it for like two to six months, it mostly goes back.

It resets.

It does reset.

Wow, I didn't know that.

I was scared because, you know, I've done what I've done for a long time.

And I was, I don't run around asking people, oh, you think I'm tight?

Because I didn't want my feelings hurt.

But I hooked up with like a guy friend of mine.

And

I didn't shoot for a couple months prior to that.

And then he ran, he told people, and I was like, the guillotine.

And I was like, oh, damn.

I was like, me?

Thank God.

Wow.

I didn't think that at all.

I always wondered if that was a myth or not.

If you have sex a lot, like, does it get looser, you know?

I would say, like, super loose, but like, I'm sure, I don't know, if you shoot with like a dread or an Alex Jones, and then the next day somebody else slides it in, it's not going to be temporary.

Yeah.

Temporarily, it's not going to be quite the same.

It's the same house, but the furniture's been rearranged.

Yep.

So you said guy friend you had sex with.

Can guys and girls be only friends, in your opinion?

Uh,

yeah.

It's not super common, but yeah.

Usually, I will say this though, usually it's because the guy wants to have sex with the girl.

She just hasn't done it yet.

See?

So, yeah.

Usually.

I agree.

I think no for most people.

There's very rare guys that can just separate the two.

I think it becomes really platonic if it's like your friend's partner.

Friend's partner.

Like if it's like your friend's husband, you see him all the time.

Yeah.

He's kind of like your buddy.

Yeah.

But that's like her husband or like her man or whatever.

And you're like, oh, okay, yeah.

Those are easy to separate separate from it.

They're super easy to separate.

Yeah, exactly.

But I'm talking about just like a random guy and a random girl.

There's no other family relationships or friendships involved.

Well, every guy friend I've had definitely like wanted to sleep with me at some point.

See, I mean, we were definitely really friends, but you know,

they became my friend because they wanted

you caved in, you slept with them?

Not every time, but sometimes.

Sometimes.

Wow.

Well, they got out of the friend zone at least.

They did.

I mean, yeah.

I'm sure you're friend zoning a lot of guys, too.

It's happened.

You get any weird fans?

Like when you go to ABN and stuff like that?

I love my fans.

I really do.

They pay my bills.

That's good.

I've heard some stories.

They gave me a career.

I'm just thankful.

I've heard some weird stories.

Have you?

People gotta follow the stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah, there's one guy that came to me when he said weird fans.

There is one that popped in my head, but I don't want to, to be honest, I don't want to super mention him because if he ever sees this, he's going to be like, what?

What's this about

A little bit stalkery.

So I'm like,

maybe we don't spotlight him.

Yeah, respect.

Well, that was fun.

Anything else you're working on, want to talk about or close off with here?

Ooh.

I just did a BDSM Barbie dungeon this morning.

BDSM.

For adulttime.com.

My friend Aubrey Kate directed it and it was it was fun.

I did like so I uh I uh the girl and I was like with the trans girl and we both dressed up like Barbies And then we, like, did, like, little Barbie voices and, like, arm movements.

And so she's like, yeah, when you do, like, the positions, can you do it how like a barbie and all would do?

You like the trans stuff.

I do.

Yeah, I like T-year-olds, for sure.

That's your little, your, your niche, your carving.

I, I like, I like, I like it all.

Does it feel different?

It, it does.

Okay.

It does.

Thanks for the honesty.

Does it feel different to have sex with like a trans woman in it versus a man?

Does that your question?

question?

Yes.

Yeah.

It does.

Yeah, it's very different.

How so?

Smell, because a lot of

trans women take hormones.

So they smell very different from a man.

Hmm.

I could see that.

I just meant that.

They're pretty.

They got big boobs and long hair and makeup.

Yeah.

I meant more the touch and the feel, but that makes sense too.

Oh, I've had some like really rail me out.

Let me tell you.

Really?

Okay, so they could still pound in there.

They ain't going to pound how, let me tell you.

All right.

Well, uh, we'll link your your Instagram anything else you want us to link in the video

Instagram.

How about Twitter?

Twitter

we'll link your Twitter.

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